WEBVTT 1 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:36.240 Hello, very good afternoon this Monday, July 15th, at seven sixteen o 2 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:39.520 ' clock at night. Welcome, everyone who' s connected here. Welcome, 3 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:45.719 Doctor Amen Hello. Good night, happy start of the week, you 4 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.520 sad ones. Welcome, Dear Fra Baby, hear girls who quickly left for 5 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.479 the weekend. I didn' t get a sigh, a sigh. It 6 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:58.200 went away very quickly, but well, it was good. We have to 7 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.039 take advantage of it. I walked a lot and did a lot of exercise, 8 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:04.079 but, well, here we are to talk today. First, speak 9 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.560 to us, Dear Ephraim, what happened to King Charles. Welcome everyone who 10 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.879 ' s connected, and an apology had greeted us. Welcome all those who 11 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.799 are members of the channel, all those who are subscribers, of the channel, 12 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:19.079 all those who are here from Pasadita as well and all those who are 13 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.280 the podcast platforms. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you to 14 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:29.760 him and Knight Alisé who are here with us of moderate stars. We have 15 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.480 to invite him and Caballero soon so we can talk about his book. But 16 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:37.879 that' s how we' re going to do it Eventually we' re 17 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:44.400 going to talk about it, Ahorita, so this is what you sent us 18 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:49.799 from King Charles, because not even Charles who cleans himself with an egg all 19 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:52.200 happens to him, because now what they put on the island of Jersey, 20 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:53.239 woe to the Channel to celebrate what thing. There they were very happy for 21 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.200 the first time I was going to leave after all this thing that was wrong, 22 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.840 that was fine, I was going with my nightgown that we love her 23 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:01.799 very much, not true. That' s right. We already love her. 24 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.280 You have to forgive the cloud camila and then that my camila was eating 25 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:08.599 an ice cream. No, she was comforted, very happy, very quiet, 26 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:13.560 nothing happened, and they told her, ma' am, we have 27 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.680 to evict because there is a threat, there is one I love and you 28 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:21.159 see that she got ugly with the other. So they told him let' 29 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.319 s all go, they all went to the hotel at hand. Nothing happened, 30 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:28.080 but if they were scared, they were definitely in jail because they had 31 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:31.919 just been Trump' s, whatever it was. It was just about Trump, 32 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:35.080 because that' s what they' ve discussed. That' s right. 33 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.120 It is true that if it is a montage that if the poor boy 34 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:42.599 was finished, that if all the people were already seeing him when nobody stopped 35 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:47.000 him, that if the new lady of the secret service is of no use 36 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:53.360 that if he went to burto already aridatecha. Forget everything that has come out 37 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:59.199 and speculations that have existed there about this. But, well, it could 38 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:02.639 be tea. He' s gonna hurt his camila. Hey tell us, 39 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:09.840 tell us your embrain about we' ve been here talking about RBD and the 40 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:15.439 problem right now is in standby because the one hundred and seventeen audits follow, 41 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.439 well five or four or whatever, but the audits follow. They' ve 42 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.840 already changed lawyers as much as you want, but we' ve got that 43 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:28.159 on standby. However, there is something to say about RBD. On Saturday 44 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.800 I was going for the toy shop and I said my God there are the 45 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:35.680 miracle of Guadalupe' s rose. If there was the second strip of the 46 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.639 rebe dolls I brought the whole block I didn' t say leme all the 47 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:42.560 miércoluchis. If there was a second throw and I said well, they' 48 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:44.840 re going to do the commercial. It' s a rebedade because they love 49 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:51.759 each other very much. No, because they did it separate on your account 50 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.960 every team, well, but at least they said, I mean, nobody 51 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.159 ' s fighting with their money Look. We don' t talk, but 52 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:01.199 let the exact business come out. They didn' t do it together and 53 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:05.840 they' re not gonna do it together or do it, as I' 54 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:11.199 d say from a theophyllites. I was hoping that all three of them would 55 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.520 come out with the dolls of all three, not each one with his mone 56 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:19.519 is over. That is who is the individuality here, because in a group, 57 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:26.079 yes, yes, it sounds ridiculous, but yes, but yes, 58 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.000 because there it is, already, there is the barbis. Well, they 59 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:35.160 ' re not barbis. The RBD dolls. It' s enough for anyone 60 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:40.079 who wants to buy them, who wants to collect them, to go get 61 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:44.480 them and listen. And then it turns out that the weekend we are going 62 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.399 to talk about this topic, which seems to me super delicate, because it 63 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:57.560 is a topic that journalist Jorge Carvajal denounces on his YouTube channel in productions sixty 64 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:01.240 - nine, and then Jorge Carvajal a follow- up to the publications, 65 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.240 because it is not that he has taken it out of the sleeve that he 66 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:11.920 has said he hears who I am going to investigate today, not from certain 67 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:16.639 publications of Wendy Guevara, with Paola Suárez, Paola Suárez, with others of 68 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:21.720 the lost or with others of the lost, from the same things that Paola 69 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:26.879 Suárez Sola has published with others, with another, with their couples in turn 70 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:30.639 or with their leagues in turn? So to put it this way Jorge Carvajal 71 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:39.160 is given the task of investigating this and it is complicated And it is serious 72 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.519 because he discovers and brings out the light that could exist. Or it exists 73 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:47.879 because Jorge car Jal also presents in one of his videos a lawsuit that is 74 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:58.040 already against Paola Suárez and then presents this lawsuit that has been filed. It 75 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.879 seems to me that today and here the serious thing is that what accuses Jorge 76 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:09.240 Carvajal and that I insist he has investigated more things. But what we' 77 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.800 ve all seen is that if he went out with a little boy who accompanied 78 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:17.279 a young boy who was graduating from sebetis, but that means that the chau 79 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:24.560 is only about eighteen years old. Something like this and they start presenting a 80 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:31.279 video of Wendy with Paola Suárez laughing at an abuse of a person with disabilities, 81 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:34.879 because, because he is a person who lacks an arm and says I, 82 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:40.920 anyway, put him and one and describes some terrifying things and all that 83 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:45.519 denounces him to Jorge Carvajal and says here he is committing a crime, in 84 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:47.800 which, therefore, he is not wrong. Here' s the most interesting 85 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:54.319 and very dramatic thing going on. It turns out here that in many countries 86 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.680 of the world and it happens in Mexico, and well, on social networks 87 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:01.319 that' s when a person is so influential media because it' s popular, 88 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.959 because people laugh, because people ay ha ha ha that fun are the 89 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:09.839 losses. All then if you criticize him, of course you' re a 90 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.600 transphobic, of course you' re a tole and not here. It' 91 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:17.360 s not about that here, because things go beyond then, Paola Suárez answers 92 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:25.560 Jorge Jaroajal this way. I just saw that Cor Jorge Carvajal, who is 93 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:31.879 campaigning, of a campaign of despestrication. And that, then, is a 94 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.279 smear campaign. Well, I can' t say that. All right, 95 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:41.680 sorry about that against me. Do me a favor. That man who has 96 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:46.519 no life, who has no life, who doesn' t have one to 97 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:48.399 worry about his mom. Well, I don' t know He apologizes if 98 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.160 I' m screwing up. I don' t know if I have a 99 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.360 mom, I don' t know if I have a dad, if I 100 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:55.160 have a sister, if I have this. I don' t know if 101 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:58.399 anyone has to pay rent. I' m afraid you don' t have 102 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:03.519 life to be campaigning after me. So much is your courage with me, 103 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:09.000 what did I do to you? What did I do to you? So 104 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.519 much for your courage. It' s great that you talk about me that 105 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:15.319 this and the other. Why, because, for I lived in public lake. 106 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.959 All the videos that are on social media are public and yes, you 107 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.120 can talk about me, but don' t talk about it with courage. 108 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.800 Don' t talk about it with courage. I don' t know what 109 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:28.480 I did to you. I don' t even know you in person. 110 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:35.360 I know you on social media, because you' ve just spoken ill of 111 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.120 me. You speak ill of Fulanita, of Sultanita, of Futsul breath of 112 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:43.639 how much messo looks to you in front of you. You' re no 113 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.879 longer waiting for someone to screw up to talk about that person. And terrible 114 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.720 what Paola says, because look what she says and that' s what a 115 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.720 lot of people say when you criticize her work, point out her job or 116 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:56.159 do one is that you talk bad about me. No and no one is 117 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.360 talking bad about his person, who is where to be talking about what she 118 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.559 does. Not because I' ve also been told you spoke ill of me, 119 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.919 because I didn' t talk about the work you presented on a screen, 120 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.080 because that' s what I' ve been doing for many years. 121 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.320 But here, in this case also blames. Jorge Carvaja tells him you hate 122 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:18.799 me no, don' t imagine, I don' t know how you 123 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:24.519 see him apart. He says he' s running a smear campaign. Well, 124 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.960 and besides, it' s hard for him to say the word. 125 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.120 I think she' s nervous. And what is a smear campaign, I 126 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.919 would say basically is something that, in effect, has the sole and exclusive 127 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:45.639 intention of harming a person by a personal animosity, that is, doing him 128 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.399 harm. And usually, because through lies, through inventing things of his person, 129 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:56.879 to perhaps distort some information or some conduct with the purpose of harming and 130 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.320 here what we are seeing What Jorge Carvajal does is a public denunciation regarding a 131 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:09.080 very serious and delicate situation, of which he has learned that moreover, Paola 132 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:15.919 has externalized. There are videos where he talks about it right now. I 133 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.600 think Fray is going to tell us a little bit and that it could not 134 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:24.679 or should not be let go as if nothing, because we are at a 135 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:30.879 time when awareness of this type of crime is more in the foreground than ever 136 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.440 before. So it' s not the same disparagement they report. It seems 137 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:43.759 to me like Ephraim exactly and notice that they always say that the agenda progresses 138 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:45.440 from there I don' t know how many things. This is the subject 139 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.360 of the other Age, the fact that Jorgito is part of the community and 140 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.519 so is she and we are part of this LGBT community and who knows how 141 00:10:52.559 --> 00:11:00.080 many more lyrics this place gives to Jorge and that prestige to be able to 142 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:01.919 point out, for such a serious question of what is happening. That is 143 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:07.120 to say, the issue is not of disparagement and it is terrible that a 144 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.639 person like that obviously does not know how to discern what is good and what 145 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.679 is bad, because, because I do not think he knows it by having 146 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.600 such terrible actions with minor people, he does not know it. It' 147 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.440 s not a campaign of vestiges, it' s a denunciation, as Melisa 148 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.360 says. And the point is that Jorge, at the time, supported the 149 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:28.519 lost. But we cannot support such reprehensible issues and I will tell you one 150 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.519 thing. There are videos of Paola saying that she came to accompany her boyfriends, 151 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.600 to go get the ine out. I mean, he' s already 152 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.919 making a statement, so that' s already a car to pick up. 153 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.320 Yeah, by herself, she' s already said she likes kids. I 154 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.799 mean, there are things here that aren' t normal and not because that 155 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.639 ' s part of the community that mentioned it. There' s Thursday we 156 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.240 ' re going to apologize I mean, if something' s wrong and if 157 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.799 something' s a crime, if something' s reprehensible, it has to 158 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:01.919 be pointed out. And Jorge' s attitude is that of any serious journalist 159 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.519 he likes to investigate. Besides, I don' t see Jorge talking hate, 160 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:11.039 not commini. I don' t think it' s a personal matter, 161 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.360 either, because of the contract. I think he handled it in a 162 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.080 way that, despite the fact that the issue is heavy, because it is 163 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.720 a heavy issue, with a serious one, because that is a very serious 164 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.360 issue. Chavas or not it' s not like go and you don' 165 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:26.200 t have to point them out. It' s a very delicate subject. 166 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:31.960 But they know what happens to me about the other age of a person who 167 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:37.480 is trans doing this kind of reprehensible activities, because they are going to enter 168 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:43.080 into transphobia and homophobia, because this does stigmatize. Of course, all transs 169 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.799 are like this and for now they don' t realize what is the harm 170 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:50.840 their community is doing to them, flagging themselves saying that hatred here, there 171 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.559 is no hatred. Here' s a person who has enough jorgeito tantiates to 172 00:12:54.600 --> 00:13:01.000 say what' s going on and no way and I do believe and do 173 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.120 and exhort people who are part of the LGBT community. Who knows how much 174 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:11.279 more than not to support reprehensible issues, although we are very serious that we 175 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.559 have fought for our rights and that if someone is doing something bad, as 176 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.919 Paola points out, it is not that clear, because it is not anything 177 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:26.039 here that is, here it is something delicate important that I do not see. 178 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.919 I insist that there be a personal matter of Jorge Carvajal, because it 179 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:33.080 may have been anyone else, as the complaints not here. I think I 180 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:41.919 agree with you, that Paula doesn' t understand or know that she' 181 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.159 s committing a crime and that she' s published it in other words, 182 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.919 and that it' s very serious. So I think that instead of saying 183 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.440 that Jorge speaks with hatred and so on, he should check and partner with 184 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.120 a lawyer to explain to him that what he is doing, because it is 185 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.679 not right and she took out a like I say communicated. He says and 186 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:07.799 I think someone helps him make this statement because that' s where he' 187 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:09.639 s going to look at them. Let me have it here so I can 188 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:16.440 read it. He says with regard to the reports of journalists and communicators on 189 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:22.039 various digital platforms, what they do to me by accusing me of unlawful acts 190 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.399 in the name of minors. Resoundingly false when we' ve seen it, 191 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.919 we' ve seen it to my following audience I repeat, I don' 192 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:37.279 t have any complaints against me. This statement is from the weekend. Now 193 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.799 it' s day thirteen, Today we' re fifteen, it' s 194 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.639 Saturday thirteen and then she says she doesn' t have any complaints against her 195 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.759 of this nature or any other, because she hasn' t committed any crime 196 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.200 to journalists and communicators, of whom it' s not worth referring to their 197 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:56.840 names. I tell you I' ve always been and will be respectful of 198 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:00.600 your work. I am respectful of freedom of expression, opinion and criticism. 199 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.960 I know we all have a fundamental right to say what we think. The 200 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.919 points they make to me exercise their right to freedom of expression of criticism and 201 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.840 opinions. They should be based on verified factual data. I' m sorry, 202 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:20.399 but if she can' t pronounce discredit, I don' t think 203 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:22.440 she knows the word verifiable factual data. Free expression and criticism and opinion are 204 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:26.399 one thing. And again to abuse that freedom of expression, crossing the limit 205 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.440 of their reports, not for the purpose of informing, but with the unhealthy 206 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:37.080 intention of causing me harm and, therefore, those who engage in the work 207 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:41.840 of communication what they say are sources of civil liability and that they can give 208 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:46.360 rise to the payment of compensation when what they report has the sole purpose of 209 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.639 causing me harm. It does not take an expert to realize that they are 210 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.840 using freedom of expression improperly and abusively. Their intentions go beyond freedom of expression. 211 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:00.320 I mean, the joke is she says. Its purpose is not to 212 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.919 report. His purpose is offensive in nature because I am a trans woman and 213 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.120 that is already manipulation by Paula of his title even already recognized by the CNDH. 214 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.360 This has nothing to do with it and as a trans woman I have 215 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.039 the right not to suffer any discrimination. And this is not discrimination either. 216 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:27.000 Paula Suer is inciting hatred, not violence. Rejection of insulting mockery. But 217 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:30.200 if this has nothing to do with it. It also says that this does 218 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:34.480 not say, I say it is said by the National Human Rights Commission and 219 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:37.480 it is subject to complaint. Therefore, they are abusing freedom of expression when 220 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.559 it is clear that their sole purpose is to expose me to the hatred and 221 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:45.240 contempt of the public. I think Paula Suárez is wrong, because what we 222 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.840 have seen in videos is what Jorge is saying, because we have seen them 223 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:55.480 in the videos. You said it, he said his exact mouth appears here. 224 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.080 This is a letterhead that has the statement on the top right that says 225 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:06.319 leading legal solutions, so this has already been redacted to it by a law 226 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:14.240 firm completely out of place. With regard to the issue that has been being 227 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.559 discussed and arguing this whole issue that freedom of expression should not be used to 228 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:23.319 harm people, and it returns to the same question as if it were defamatory 229 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:32.079 what is being expressed and as if it were also in function of its public 230 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.720 identity and to which it has a right. And that is not at any 231 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:37.839 time what is being talked about, or what is being said, or anything, 232 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:45.400 but these videos in which she openly talks about the type of ties and 233 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:51.319 relationships and with which people she has them and that in front of that it 234 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:55.319 is difficult for a person like Jorge Carvajal, to edit himself to inform him 235 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.640 to remain silent because besides her, in his video where he responds to Jorge 236 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.880 Carvajar, tells him that if he has nothing to do, that if he 237 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.400 has no family to take care of. And there too, because she is 238 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:10.079 also out of place, because what he has to do, frankly, is, 239 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:14.559 then, communicate. That' s his job and then, when it 240 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.400 comes to communicating, he communicates all kinds of information that has to do with 241 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:22.640 entertainment issues. But also, when you encounter something of the seriousness and seriousness 242 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:29.920 of this matter, for more reason, there is a duty to denounce it 243 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:34.359 for the time being publicly and you will see what the people involved are going 244 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:41.519 to come from. Of course, really efryn. To me the subject comes 245 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.599 to the whore, it doesn' t bother me, it generates all the 246 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.200 uncomfortable emotions. That is exactly why, because those of us who have been 247 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:55.200 fighting for this type of minorities to have rights, we have seen from an 248 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.480 honorable vision people like Paola come to bring everything to the fore and really that 249 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:06.000 in his statement he wants to incite the population to think that Jorge' s 250 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:11.160 attitude to tell the truth and denounce a crime is transphobia. It' s 251 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:17.559 just that it' s totally really, because there' s a lot of 252 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:19.440 trans people who are very respectable, a lot very respectable. This has nothing 253 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.000 to do with transphobia, forgiveness, Ephraim that interrupts you no and the fact 254 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:27.200 and it is very big, girls, because then what Paolo is asking us 255 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:32.640 is that we appeal to you reprehensible questions so that we do not tell us 256 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:36.039 that we are transphobic. And what do you think, Paola, I understand 257 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:37.839 your other age, because I' m part of the flag. Maybe not 258 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.319 my partners, a lot of people don' t, but me and Jorge 259 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.559 do and what you think. I completely reprove you and I, in particular, 260 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.799 turn my back on these kinds of issues and ask you, please, 261 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.720 to stop saying that it is transphobia, because it is not. It' 262 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:57.079 s not fanphobia, that' s manipulating public opinion with your power, please 263 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:03.319 stop misforming and if you' re going to send a statement, check it 264 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:04.799 out, because it' s more. I dare to think it' s 265 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:08.240 the subject of teresobia. I don' t even look at her, because 266 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:10.920 I don' t think the statement doesn' t write. No, of 267 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.440 course not. Of course not, and it' s an absolutely manipulative one. 268 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:21.720 But I don' t think she wrote it in any way. No. 269 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:26.279 But it is totally manipulative and using many arguments that have nothing to do 270 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:32.920 with the matter and that video that makes it also very unfortunate, because it 271 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:37.759 takes it to a level of personal litigation without reason and it is nothing at 272 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.559 all about that. Yes, yes, he points out, in an absurd 273 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:48.000 way carrying that, I believe that whoever writes the statement to you, Paola 274 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:51.000 or Avisen the paula, that whoever wrote the statement to him, should also 275 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:55.480 help him understand that what they have said in videos, what they have manifested 276 00:20:55.519 --> 00:21:00.759 in videos of their life voice, is not right. So I think maybe 277 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.359 a little bit of' cause I know they' re right now in the 278 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.799 moon horns are the most popular, or the most popular ones in the famous 279 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:12.680 houses. In the case of them they are super wow, by wend and 280 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:17.039 by all they are super nice. This is so much fun. But that 281 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:25.279 ' s wrong, and no matter how popular you are, he' s 282 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.039 not father, not exactly not. No, there' s no father. 283 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:29.839 It' s not transphobia and forgiveness. And so because I did think about 284 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:37.279 it, it' s well, peacefully, passively violent in your video, 285 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.759 of course, absolute, absolute and just like she says transphobia, which is 286 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.160 not transphobia. I am going to point out to my Paulita that her attitude 287 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:49.279 is totally violent. And now a lot to Jorge that if he doesn' 288 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:52.079 t have anything else to do and he reminds the family and so on, 289 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.400 that' s super violent, not for anymore. It seems to me of 290 00:21:55.480 --> 00:22:00.279 such an inflated ego, to say, there is a smear campaign against me, 291 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.839 because, then, at what levels you have reached power. What are 292 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:11.240 you Paola Suárez about so that Jorge Carvajal, who has millions of s good, 293 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:15.119 millions of followers and who sees them all and has twenty zero connected live, 294 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.960 would like to dedicate ah Mira, is super good, but I am 295 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:23.720 going to dedicate myself to Paula Suárez because it is at the top of power, 296 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:29.079 because it is not that you said. It is a consecrated figure, 297 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:36.599 it has a history, a resume, it has a trajectory, since the 298 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:40.279 trajectory dates from about a year ago. No. I think Jorge Carbajar was 299 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:48.079 responsible for organizing a smear campaign for a character who has fifteen minutes in the 300 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.920 middle. No. And besides, as you' re telling us here, 301 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:59.119 psychologist Alcalixto, and that we' ve already said that effectively, is to 302 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:00.440 expose inappropriate behaviors. And that is not contempt and contempt, nor fame to 303 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:06.000 slander lying. If it were Jorge' s saying, nothing more and it 304 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:07.920 is still we would have to wait for the best. He says and then 305 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:11.279 I' ll show you the evidence. Besides, it' s Jorge, 306 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:12.839 but it' s not Jorge' s saying. It is what is there, 307 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:15.039 what has been, is what we have seen, It is what we 308 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:21.000 have seen, indeed, hear, for the subject and another of the things 309 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:26.000 that happened the weekend, that was intense and intense, I look I stayed 310 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:33.039 this way of or, Maiga, Mister Doctor, that is dedicated, because 311 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:40.519 we have already talked here about Marta Gareda, islinder Bes and Suguru who, 312 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:45.519 as ended up calling, neither cure them anything like that put the tot. 313 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.720 Then we take this back because, besides, the doctor abela to the communicators 314 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:59.880 and take this See it with great pleasure because to see, he says that 315 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:03.319 Marifercen, he says I will talk about Marifer Centeno, who said that with 316 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:10.880 graphology you can lose weight and then Marifer Centeno says no. It' s 317 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.720 not that, it' s not true. I never said it and that 318 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:17.400 was a meme. That' s from the direct message to Mr Doctor who 319 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:21.240 showed it and then it' s not true. Sure, yeah, of 320 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:23.279 course you did, you said it in two thousand eighteen. Of course you 321 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:30.079 said it and then says Mr Doctor. And what a coincidence that the next 322 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.799 day, because there were no more his videos Channel WOW. And that' 323 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:38.119 s when we touched on this Thursday, that they had entered Marifer Centerno' 324 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:44.079 s office and deleted everything that was a little complicated, unless someone had access 325 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:49.440 to your Internet and YouTube keys, for example, and they wouldn' t 326 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:56.160 have to go into your office to delete your videos. He can do it 327 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.000 from home. If you have the key, you don' t have to 328 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.799 go to because the type computers go to those no longer exist. A long 329 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.200 time ago and you can read an email here or in China. You' 330 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:07.319 ll get it anyway. Well, I don' t know if China is 331 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:08.680 on Google. I don' t think you can see it, but you 332 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:12.160 can. Yeah, there are others that do, but come on, I 333 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.319 was wrong country, you can see it. In Finland you chose exactly, 334 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:22.680 fuck exactly the one that has me in and then it turns out that, 335 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.079 because she says marifera to me they hacked me and bad and then you can 336 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:26.880 ' t watch my videos. But the doctor says, but since I' 337 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:32.640 m very cautious and a great researcher, I have it. And then, 338 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:37.720 there the video where Marifer Centenois that can be lost weight with graphology, that 339 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:44.720 especially using blue ink, because it gives you peace of mind that, besides 340 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.519 writing certain phrases and repeating them for twenty- one days, I think that 341 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.119 three times a day you will also lose weight. Another thing that Mari Fer 342 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.799 says is that, well, among other things that the doctor says is besides 343 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:03.079 that it is graphólo, because that' s how Manifercente started not being a 344 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.359 graphologist. Now read the red, or now also the face, but also 345 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.039 the body language, but also the clothes you wear. But I mean, 346 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.759 not anymore. And now, then, with this nutrition thing. And good. 347 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.960 There is a saying that says remember that we here are very happy, 348 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.519 beautifiers. There was one says the one that covers a lot little squeeze. 349 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.319 You can' t be so specialized in so many things and be good. 350 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.599 And then the doctor says to see, because let' s see where Maripercente 351 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:40.279 studied, which was the same thing that Jorge Carvajal did with someone recently who 352 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:41.640 took out his cellular. I don' t remember, but he says no. 353 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.559 Not to see she studied the Law Career in a tech, but her 354 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:51.240 card took her out on the 23rd, just like Marifer Centeno' s mom. 355 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.559 I didn' t know he worked with the mom. On the other 356 00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:59.319 hand, it says the difference. There' s a big difference in being 357 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:04.000 a graphologist and a sécographer. Doing good said graphology or graphoscopy. I' 358 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:10.839 m already like Paula group to well, so you say a fraud, because 359 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:12.759 she offers you a course that lasts for fourteen months or eighteen months. I 360 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.279 don' t remember, and that you' re going to pay two thousand 361 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.559 dollars and you' re going to go out being an expert in graphology, 362 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.720 that it' s going to be that you' re going to be able 363 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.440 to work even in the prosecutor' s office and forgive, because in the 364 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:27.519 prosecution, which looks at me I like very much. Marifer also likes the 365 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.559 doctor, the doctor, I don' t like to know him personally, 366 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.519 but everything the doctor was saying, because you' re beating up if you 367 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.759 ' re right, if you' re a lawyer and what' s true, 368 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.400 because I know if lawyers take Latin lessons. Yeah, if they take 369 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:48.599 Latin lessons, because I ever even shared some class with some lawyer, but 370 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:56.519 not that kind of graphology. So it' s a pseudoscience. The doctor 371 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:02.880 says he' s promising things that don' t have official recognition. And 372 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.680 because it goes very hard against Marifer rye and says you cheat people and maybe 373 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:14.599 this is my opinion, Marifer handle his as a matter of entertainment and no 374 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:22.799 more. But you can' t claim it' s something that can cure 375 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.640 you, because she was also talking about curing anxiety. She also said that 376 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.519 the only thing that makes you fat is the anxiety that when I cry that 377 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.759 Maffer has never been fat in his life. But making statements to see who 378 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:41.319 wants to start. Oh, there' s so much to say. I 379 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.680 would say, first of all, that there is a disagreement because she says 380 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:51.480 there, he spent several videos where she says I am a woman of science. 381 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.519 I work through science. And that' s where it' s the 382 00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.000 first dismantling by the mster doctor. Why does it tell him that, indeed, 383 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:04.039 graphology is not a science, which is even considered there for you to 384 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:10.359 see an area discredited in the field of psychology and is among the five pseudosciences. 385 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.319 Let' s say that and it says and this I also say in 386 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.799 peace, because it says, for example, that the British Society of Psychology, 387 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:26.440 which is one of the most recognized in the world, equates it with 388 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.319 astrology and gives it scientific validity. Zero. So, yes, because here 389 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.599 too we have talked and consider that there are things that serve for entertainment and 390 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.400 for and for everyone to believe what they want to believe, but you cannot 391 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.000 give it a character of science, because it is not. So here' 392 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.079 s a discrepancy when she says this thing that points to that she' s 393 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.720 a woman of science, when she handles a technique that isn' t. 394 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.920 The difference with graphoscopy, which is used, as it is used to cross 395 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.559 - check signatures, to detect counterfeits, frauds. That' s another thing. 396 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.240 But already this that through writing one can modify aspects of health physically to 397 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:10.160 the emotional is a bit complicated. The reason is that I would like to 398 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:15.039 say that as I think she is understanding it, it is or as she 399 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.960 is proposing it is an opposite thing. Let' s say the other way 400 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:23.759 around, for example, one that the doctor really likes to talk about cognitive 401 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.680 or behavioral therapy. Doctors in general like it a lot because it is a 402 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.960 very good form of therapy, as there are so many others that are great, 403 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.200 but in this case because it offers a relatively quick result to treat punctual 404 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.799 problems and, in that sense, cognitive behavioral therapy seeks to modify thought patterns 405 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:49.240 to achieve changes in behavior. Here it seems as if what she proposes is 406 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:56.119 the reverse to modify a behavior that is the way to write the words that 407 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.200 you write the ink you use, as if the other way around modifying that 408 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.559 behavior, then you modify something internal, but not only at the thought level, 409 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:07.640 but even at the biological level in the organism. And that' s 410 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:15.640 as bold as it is inaccurate, and that' s where there' s 411 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.960 a confusion of order, where it looks like an effect is a cause. 412 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.680 And it' s not like that. So he says, for example, 413 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.880 people with emotions leave you food, but altered emotions like this people write pointy 414 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:33.240 and write messy, of course because he already has an internal conflict that makes 415 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.079 his behavior reflect it, but not because you put him to write calm and 416 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:44.720 exact right. She says do the long letter and then they' re going 417 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:45.880 to start slimming. And so on. And there' s one thing. 418 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:52.079 I remember that when I weaved something it was very significant, when you were 419 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.759 stressed, pure and so on, because you weave much tighter. When you 420 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.519 ' re relaxed, you weave much more loosely and you notice the tissue you 421 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.519 notice in the fabric, how it is one and the other, because the 422 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.359 writing is the same. Writing is the same, but inversely it is not 423 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.640 the structure that modifies you. You modify your writing now and she' s 424 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.240 going to say it, I could say, but you can, I mean, 425 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:20.960 you could force yourself to knit more open even if you were deliberately anxious. 426 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:28.799 Yeah, how you deliberately say it, but that' s a matter 427 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:31.880 that you' re forcing your hands to move very differently. But the basic 428 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:36.359 problem is not being solved. I mean, it' s not like that, 429 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.279 it' s not exactly like that. Now, Ephraim, you about 430 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:45.880 all this stuff about what it' s called me, I didn' t 431 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.000 shut up, and I waited because there they stepped on my cannon, and 432 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:50.119 when it starts on my street, it' s already worth wiping out girls. 433 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.039 Then there' s Marifer Hang on,' cause I' m just 434 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.319 as fighting as you are. And then, I do, I' m 435 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.839 going to back up my actors and I' m going to tell them why. 436 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:04.319 Because first of all, what I see is this lady' s irresponsibility 437 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:09.720 to go out and stigmatize a disease such as obesity and overweight in a super 438 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:15.440 irresponsible way. Why, because she' s starting with a decalogue saying what. 439 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.039 Fat people are fat because they don' t want to, I mean, 440 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.000 you' re fat because you' re anxious you' re fat, 441 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.680 I mean, fat people don' t want to be fat, Marita, 442 00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.319 and not all the things about obesity or being fat or being overweight are about 443 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:37.240 overeating. They' re called heart- bathologies. Many people are obese overweight 444 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.759 because they have some pathology that is totally out of their hands. And even 445 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.480 if you write in purple, yellow green red or go from here to China 446 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:52.400 on your knees, you can' t control that because it' s totally 447 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.119 out of your control. And to start speaking from that place of stigma of 448 00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:02.000 overweight and obesity for a woman decisive German son, is that irresponsibility. How 449 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:10.320 responsible. That' s the first, second all the time talking about food, 450 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.880 and I' m talking to you about marifer. Not only does food 451 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.000 gain weight, he' s right, but what do you think. There 452 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:23.079 has to be a whole circuit of various things for pathology to lead us to 453 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:29.880 a result. And I don' t want to insist. Fat people don 454 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.960 ' t want to be fat and I' ve had thousands of patients here 455 00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.039 that I tell them it' s no longer with me, because the endocre 456 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:37.719 and it' s the next, I mean, it' s hormonal. 457 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.320 I' m either leaving or it' s with the psychiatrist, it' 458 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.719 s with the psychologist. Check over here, review the subject over there with 459 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.840 mariferio And what makes me totally reprehensible is that she presents herself as a woman 460 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:53.960 of science stigmatizing a disease of which the lady is not well documented. I 461 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.599 mean, if she wants to talk about a disease that is documented first of 462 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.920 all, because she has no idea and really, girls and I tell you 463 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.039 how the program is with all peace, she has no idea what people who 464 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:14.199 have some pathology are suffering from, about you idea of some metabolic syndrome that 465 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.039 they want to lose weight and really can' t, because it gets out 466 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.360 of their hands completely. And I have patients eating a grape girls go up 467 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.840 five kilos or it' s really a c C. Of course, that 468 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.719 ' s what she says. No, well, look, you write twenty 469 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.239 - one months. I' m thin, I' m peace. I 470 00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.280 ' m no, no, no, no, nothing. No. That 471 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:40.039 ' s not who I was I also said who I was This is the 472 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:44.239 line of sight. So had she. But it' s from the team 473 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.880 ahead, that is, if you want you to come here talking or you 474 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.480 ' re from the affirmation team. Let' s see, then there' 475 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.599 s also one thing to say. It is true that at a given time, 476 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.599 when you are in a good treatment, call yourself for obesity, for 477 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.159 anxiety, for what it is, that you have and are in the right 478 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.280 hands of a specialist doctor, if you have to carry out a nutrition plan, 479 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.239 because with a specialist nutritionist, if you have been told to work on 480 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.480 a therapy, because in fact, your stress levels are very high and you 481 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.480 have to manage it as well. That' s all very well. And 482 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:24.159 then, if you feel comfortable with it and decide to use positive statements, 483 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:30.199 how good, because he' s a father, not because he' s 484 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:31.280 also being criticized. But I repeat, the problem comes from within, it 485 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.320 ' s not from outside. I mean, if you criticize yourself, you 486 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:38.480 disqualify yourself, you insult yourself. This isn' t going to change in 487 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.639 a way. Let' s say like outside, like cosmetics, not like 488 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.599 a makeup on the outside to make it look nicer. And then now I 489 00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.440 talk nice if I' m not really feeling it inside. That' s 490 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.639 why problems have to work from the inside to exactly. I think you' 491 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.840 re that sorry and since you do that then of course it' s very 492 00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.119 good, that your statements and your posts and your little drawings and what you 493 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.159 want is perfect. But that' s not the solution. Of course, 494 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:07.679 the problem with mariferrez because Marifer' s career is a career in law. 495 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.719 He doesn' t have a career or medicine. He' s got nothing 496 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.599 I was saying. But, besides, she also doesn' t have a 497 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.280 career that refers to the behavior that has to see wave, so she doesn 498 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.719 ' t have that either And I think that to see I think maybe Marifera 499 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:27.920 we' re going to assume that what she wanted to say wrong or cursed, 500 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.920 is that you must have an attitude, and one thing is to have 501 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.920 an attitude and to get up in the morning and say now yes, I 502 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.039 can without falling into the toxic positivism that we talked about here, Juan y 503 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.599 salazar and I or Juan y las armas well has talked to us and has 504 00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.960 exposed this issue of toxic positivism in creating your life. They can go get 505 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:51.159 him one thing That' s what you say. Well, now I' 506 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.000 m gonna get it day by day like they do. I don' t 507 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.800 know someone who' s in recovery. Well, one day at a time 508 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.360 I' m gonna make an effort. I can' t. And another 509 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.119 thing is that you think I' m leaving. I' m gonna put 510 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.719 on my samboles pie right now while I' m writing. I' m 511 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.360 skinny, because that doesn' t happen. Thank God there' s no 512 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.639 more lupi tea. Thank God yesterday you don' t have or thank God 513 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.519 you don' t have there. Don' t do anything to them. 514 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:21.800 Girls. The point is, she presents herself as a woman of science. 515 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.440 And then, in particular, it gives me a lot of laughter, because 516 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:30.400 a woman of science would respect the other sciences. I, Ephraim, would 517 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:37.519 not dare to talk about hormonal issues until I am not clear, I, 518 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:42.000 I, I would not dare to talk about quantum physics i e, I 519 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.280 am not very theologian, or to talk to me about food telling me that 520 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:52.039 you would, I will not talk about acting i e forgiveness marifer but limit 521 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:53.440 yourself, Queen, limit yourself to getting into the areas of health. It 522 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:58.079 ' s sacred, because you' re talking about people' s health and 523 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.519 forgiveness. Yeah, I' m sorry. It' s clear. Scientific 524 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:05.599 authority has the lady to talk about this. None Yes. Yes, yes, 525 00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.760 it becomes very serious. He wanted to tell me something and well, 526 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:14.760 he did also mention that she has. She mentioned the mster, the doctor 527 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.800 she has several books. One of those books I think is called the dark 528 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.840 side of the mind and again, that is, stepping on unknown grounds, 529 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:29.199 because she is a lawyer and law is not an area that deals with the 530 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:34.039 study, the mental functioning and the light of its dark light, that is, 531 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:40.039 it is something else. Then, also well, it disqualifies the famous 532 00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:45.760 diploma that you mentioned from where you can train as an expert, because this 533 00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:52.119 they teach in their own institution, and it says that you don' t 534 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.480 need previous studies, that is, you don' t even need the prepa. 535 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:58.480 And that gets a lot of attention because, on the one hand, 536 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.920 he says he' s a graduate and then he says with him other capital 537 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:05.000 letters. This isn' t a diploma, this is a specialty. You 538 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:10.320 can' t have a specialty without a bachelor' s degree. Period, 539 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.440 you can' t have. You can' t have a specialty if you 540 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:15.559 don' t have a bachelor' s degree. Me or everything I studied 541 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:21.119 in gastronomy could not be a specialty because I am not qualified as a pedagogue. 542 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:22.960 It' s the truth. But the study you can have and you 543 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:28.119 can have done it like this, but it does not exist, there is 544 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.119 no such specialty, but you can have, but there is no recognition. 545 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:36.239 It' s called the Mexican College of Grafology. I think that and what 546 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.119 I think leaves us or thinking about this issue that makes me very important is 547 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:49.280 and because you just talked about Paola Suárez, we just talked about Marifer Centeno. 548 00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:53.840 And yes, is it true, very true what the statement says? 549 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.000 Right? How true did I make Paol' s Communiqué? It' s 550 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.760 the responsibility of those with a b, but that should be a little bit 551 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.639 for a reflection. Paola' s case, not an analysis of what you 552 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:13.559 ' re saying, because that' s precisely the responsibility you have to have. 553 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.440 Then what' s going on here. I think that often the influencers 554 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:22.920 do not all have this responsibility, not all have this preparation. And I 555 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.920 ' m talking about open television and social media, I mean, I' 556 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.679 m not talking about any more Internet networks. Not also on television we hear 557 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:37.320 terrible barbarities, but the fact is that we validate them because the character is 558 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:43.840 famous, because it is on TV because millions of people see it. So 559 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:49.519 he' s probably telling the truth And no and it' s not true 560 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.320 and it' s not interesting what he tells us already nin Hernández says when 561 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:58.519 I worked as a bank cashier, I received three trainings in graphology, or 562 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.239 maybe it was graphoscopy, because yes, in a back you have to collect 563 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.519 signatures and that kind of stuff, and I imagine it was for that, 564 00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.239 and it' s very good, because it' s a necessary resource, 565 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:15.440 but not for everything else we' re saying to solve problems of mental or 566 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.920 metabolic functioning and everything else, because no, no, it' s not 567 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.599 like that and it' s not from the area, because it' s 568 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:23.159 not specialty and it doesn' t make any sense all that. Now what 569 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.000 I would like to say is nothing more, what I do not like about 570 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.000 the Mister Doctor, who also already that personal style and everyone who indisputably leads 571 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.400 to his channel as he wants to carry it. But I did get a 572 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.320 little strong that very early on, if they use a few strong words. 573 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.199 All of a sudden he does say this bitch says I say well, I 574 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.400 think it wasn' t necessary, but I understand it' s his way 575 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:50.119 of talking. He says he' s the niurca of medicine. He' 576 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.159 s always said that. Let' s see, Mr Doctor hasn' t 577 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:59.039 always said, and I think every communicator has his own style. Here' 578 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:00.840 s what' s going on here. What happens is that Mr Doctor received 579 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.280 many attacks on social media. I saw them at least on Twitter. In 580 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:10.000 this regard, policies also wrote Sandra Curvantes, that is, they write people 581 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:15.280 supporting Manifer Centeno. And it' s not about supporting or wanting a person 582 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.559 or not wanting them. The point is, then, to see if what 583 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.559 Mr Doctor is saying is not true. Well, then make an appointment and 584 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:31.039 I spoke face- to- face. Mariferi defends your point points, but 585 00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:36.920 of course we know perfect and says Mr Doctor, and repeats it you know, 586 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.079 you didn' t know with whom you sold others. But why there 587 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:43.679 ' s a prior assault on Mr Doctor. That' s the truth, 588 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.719 because I saw them, I saw them and that' s not father. 589 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.320 Ephraim. I' m going to tell you because I want to be a 590 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:59.239 doctor, because finding this word in the health sector and I don' t 591 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:00.880 know if it' s happened to you that' s the word humility. 592 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.840 There isn' t, I mean, there' s no doctor for nutrient 593 00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.519 psychiatrists, nothing, no one, that is, all of us in health 594 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:14.639 believe that we have the voice of truth and then, if we' re 595 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.000 not a little humble with my servator, there can be questions like Angel and 596 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.639 Cavale, who for a long time were methrologists and mitrologists in between, until 597 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.440 he realized that the subject was with an endopinon because yes, it was completely 598 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.719 hermonal. So the subject of what Marife is doing is a lot of calluses, 599 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:30.800 because it' s something that' s happening a lot in the health 600 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:32.800 sector. I want to cure the patient from my knowledge, but it is 601 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.119 no longer up to me then what my serducts denounce always fascinates me, because 602 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:43.679 he is very emilito with that theme of saying. Every specialist in his place 603 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.000 and yes and I like his style so I like forgiveness, no yes, 604 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.599 yes, I like it and I send a kiss in his mouth more. 605 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.199 I like this too. Yes I have seen it many times and I agree 606 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.079 with many of the things they do but well, I am also sincere and 607 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.119 I say to see I say I really think that sometimes it is a little 608 00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:07.840 harder than it is required to defend the point, which defends it very well 609 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.840 with the arguments, but also, yes, it is very his channel and 610 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.920 very his style. And also, now with what he tells us lupita that 611 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.440 he was also being assaulted, because that probably also generates that kind of response 612 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.559 in him. But yes, his reasoning is impeccable, really. When she 613 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:31.480 talks about all these things to discuss, I also think that something she did 614 00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:37.119 very important was when she comments on this that Marifer said that when she was 615 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.519 with Newurke and they had this terrible lawsuit on Adela' s program, after 616 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.920 her she said she was very scared of having a disease that she had told 617 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:49.800 her doctor because new Te of course is a lousy part of Marifer. That 618 00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.559 ' s terrible on Marifer' s part, and there wasn' t any 619 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.239 of that and it' s completely childish. What she said and I was 620 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.559 very scared of him Group why. And he exposes it too is that look 621 00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.519 at mel look at you. For example, right now you said I didn 622 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.519 ' t like the doctor' s aggressive style. The doctor was defending himself 623 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:14.119 against the attack on Bitch and Charlatan and everything he said, what Marifer said 624 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:21.360 about Nework is far worse. Yeah, without using any qualifiers. Hey, 625 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.559 but what was he gonna say to the little cowardly man, who' s 626 00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:29.239 like the one who gives him the wire that went to tell him with this 627 00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:37.519 little cowardly man? This is truly insulting to discriminatory. It' s terrible. 628 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.719 What he said to Nurca and Nurca Niurka in that show by Adela Micha. 629 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.639 What he claimed from Marifer Centeno is you start saying things about people who 630 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.199 aren' t in front of you, and then you do your analysis of 631 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.280 people who aren' t in front of you to defend themselves. And he 632 00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:57.280 told her that. And in that he was right and marifel did it again 633 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:04.480 with the little man this yes and they told him something even worse and still 634 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.480 gives him air for the other to go on and she keeps asserting it. 635 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:15.000 That' s extremely violent. Of course it adds up because where you get 636 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:15.960 it from, that' s where you get it. Where do you dare 637 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:23.960 to say that Nurga is carrying a virus on her skin? How dare you 638 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.480 and how dare you say it disgusted you and gave you something to do with 639 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.559 it, how dare you. That' s a lot worse than what you 640 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:36.360 might have said, mr. Doctor. I then the incongruity of ending up 641 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.920 hugged with her, cheek to cheek, hears then why you hugged her if 642 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:45.280 you were so afraid, is that what is terrible and exactly why Marifer is 643 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.800 far away from the health sciences and probably very close to the humanities. I 644 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.519 don' t know, and it' s a virtue that we would have 645 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.840 to have all of us engaged in health sciences, which is empathy, because 646 00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:02.559 empathy helps you not stigmatize Marifero and what you do in every sentence is stigmatize. 647 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.960 And it' s clear to me that and I understand the point of 648 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:14.920 why graphology is a subdoscience, because then if you have circulars written in such 649 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.599 a way and then also if niurca puts your buttocks here, it' s 650 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.920 supposed to catch you from something that' s not true and that' s 651 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:24.599 stigmatizing and that' s really wrong. In two thousand twenty- four and 652 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:30.159 the people who have worked in hospitals we know how reprehensible it is to generate 653 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:36.519 stigmatization in patients of whatever rank and in any person. Well, that' 654 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.400 s the way it is with this subject of Mr Doctor and Marifer Cente. 655 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:42.639 I don' t want to see if Marifer Cente isn' t going to 656 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.760 answer something to Mr. Doctor. If you suppose not, it' s 657 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:52.519 not right, if you' re wrong about something. I' d love 658 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.079 to know if that' s possible. Yeah, let' s see, 659 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:02.280 ' cause I think he gives a lot of weight. Yeah, totally really. 660 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.400 Yes, I' m telling you, he does quite well and defends 661 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:15.519 very well what he speaks with all the truth and I don' t know 662 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.239 what he' s going to do now. Frankly, it' s complicated 663 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.679 for myfer I don' t think it' s very good. And besides, 664 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.079 right now you were saying about the little man who winds her up so 665 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.239 that she keeps saying all this about Niorca today I don' t know if 666 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.079 it happened just today. I suppose he does now talk to Nurka, because 667 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:37.039 materially mocking Marifeo of course, because what he does is what he does, 668 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:43.679 of course there is of that yes moral. It does tell him how Marifer 669 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.639 said this and this and this about you and Ninorca, very quiet, doesn 670 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.280 ' t even hook up with that part. He never knows exactly who this 671 00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.599 person is, but, well, a moment to say goodbye. Thank you 672 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:58.800 very much for joining us this Monday, 15 June, and thank you for 673 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.840 having been here discussing this issue. Thank you, Dr Abel, for thank 674 00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.199 you very much and very interesting this. We' ll see what happens and 675 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.440 keep seeing each other soon was exactly. Thank you, Efra Baby girls Nice 676 00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:14.400 to meet you. The week began Brava and Leo is coming. I think, 677 00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.119 I think we do science. Leo' s coming in and he' 678 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.519 s gonna put this on like this and he' s gonna come to the 679 00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:22.920 full moon already, uh, pretty soon give him an o. There' 680 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.079 s gonna be Harto, there' s gonna be Arto bringing in and, 681 00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:28.679 like you say, whatever brings you in the soap. Come on. Thank 682 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.119 you all so much for joining us. Let' s go to history in 683 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:34.199 history Jack Trara, but don' t worry there we' ll be. 684 00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.480 Thank you so much for joining us all and let' s go there and 685 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.880 watch the show we did regarding the famous crimes here on the channel and also 686 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.880 in history. You can see it. Any channel is open to the public. 687 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:52.480 You can go see him and well, see you here tomorrow with women 688 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:53.840 leaving Heya, let' s also go to history. In history. See 689 00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:00.800 you guys later, let' s go to