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This is I on the Ball with
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Radio Station The Good Afternoon. Everybody,

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fiftie. I'm Steve

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Rivera, you're Jenkins. As we
start our show on Wednesday. A lot

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of stuff going on nationally and locally. Good show today and some stuff not

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going on. Stuff not going on, like a back pop TV deal.

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We could have said that for three
hundred sixty seventy days. Another day we

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should have like a little countdown.
No, we don't need one with x

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X. We don't. We don't
need one, like you like the marks

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on the jail sales. But I
feel like I don't need that. I

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don't need that in my life.
Will you get it by August? No?

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I don't you know at this No, you know, I didn't.

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I mean by the first game,
maybe you think they'd want to get it

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out of the way, But everybody
thought they were gonna want to get it

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out of the way by Friday or
last last Friday of last year. Yeah,

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but you know, it's up on
me today in a couple of days.

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Um so, Actually, one of
our guests today, John Wilder,

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Well, uh, that'll be one
of the topics. But you know,

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I'm you know, I'm gonna guess. I mean, he probably knows more

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than you and I do, but
he probably doesn't know enough to be able

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to say this or that is happening. Sure, I'm sure he's I asked

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him. I don't know two months
ago, months ago already how big this

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story was in his lifetime. He
says, the biggest, the biggest because

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of what's gone on and the ramifications
of bigger conferences, long term ramifications,

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and well, it's the baby that
never wants to get birth. Yeah,

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it's it's changing college athletics and not
just football, right, it's changing all

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of college athletics. So it is
a big deal. And if if you

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know, people want to poop with
that and say, well, you know

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it's there, nobody's nobody's you know, carrying cancer or solving the hunger problem.

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I get it. But from a
sports standpoint, and particularly a college

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sports standpoint, this is a big
story as there's been in a lot of

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years if it maybe ever, But
yeah, okay, I agree with that,

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but it's kind of being not diminished, but it's being prolonged for what

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all the wrong, wrong reasons,
but it sounds like okay enough for anyone

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Once it kind of diminishes the impact
of the story. Well, this thing

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with the PAC twelve is the last
piece. It's got to fall into place

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for the current situation to settle,
right, right, and then for people

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to stop talking about the Big twelve
is gonna get the owner schools and ACC

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is doing this that if the PAC
twelve settles its deal here and the PAC

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twelve is gonna hold together, now
we stop for a couple of years,

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right right, and eventually we can
move forward after this, and then then

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you know, and then the next
round. I think it's where you start

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to see some of the consolidation that
we've been talking about for a decade,

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which will be not immediate, but
sometimes you know, I just read another

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analysis of it the other day that
said that they you know, we always

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say, well there's gonna be four
super conferences, they're saying three. You

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know, this one analysis I read
set at three that the Big ten and

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they and the SEC will expand some
more, and then all that everything else

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that's left well will be a third
you know, and that that it would

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be a combination of acc So how
old do you think you're gonna live too?

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Don't ask me that, Okay,
I don't want to make that kind

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of a prediction. Okay, let's
say seven. Let's that got twenty more

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years, eighty three? Okay,
bull crap, just because I'll say seventy

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five for me or sixty ten,
I don't really care. I don't will

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it happen in our lifetime? Will
happen in our life? Something will?

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Yeah, But the scenario you just
had three huge conferences or something like that,

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Yeah, I think that'll happen in
the next ten years next as as

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we get through all the current uh
ten years grant of rights and teach is

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good, yeah, because it's already
kind of moving swiftly except for this.

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Yeah, all these conferences are gonna
are signing these deals that are good until

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you know, twenty thirty, twenty
thirty one. Yeah, that's when the

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next round of this is gonna happen. So ye know, yeah, that's

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okay. I'll give you ten years. You'll be seven ten years and well

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in seven years, let's say it
happened in twenty twenty thirty, I'll be

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seventy. Okay, seven sixty,
you do. Let's get some mesh.

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But I'm gonna feel and look a
lot like I do now. So I'm

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gonna feel a lot and look a
lot like Oh yeah, yeah. I

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don't think I'm not gonna changing much
anymore. This is it. You're like

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Loot looked like he was sixty when
he was. You know, I was

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looking at myself in the mirror,
and I told my wife I need some

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plastic surgery. I gotta get this
thing and under my chin fix. What

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did she say? She stopped beating? No, go, she goes,

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I need to get mine fixed too, do your wife you Felix? Great?

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Yeah, she looks, but uh
no, you stopped beating the steet

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toes and blah blah blah. And
I had some some some goldfish yesterday.

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I love both and I can do
those all day long. Yeah, it

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says, well, I need to
have light pulsuction. Well, if I

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just stop beating, I'm going to
pat myself under the channel. He's one

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of those exercise things. And then
at three fifteen, right, we have

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Brad Alice Brad House a Wildcat Sports
report. Yeah, there was still kind

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of in the business, right there
was? Was he at the news conference?

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There was a news conference with the
Kisha Johnson, the guy from Very

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Impressive, A very impressive guy,
graduate student, good body, nice,

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tall, lean body. Obviously will
help the program. Right, Um,

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let me ask you this because he
was kind of asked of him. He's

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a leader, you know, a
leader guy, senior guy, helped them

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probably get to the final four,
among others. Um, how much weight

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do you Okay, this is just
two dudes in a room, how much

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would you give him and love for
coming on the show, coming on the

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team program and being having that final
four experience doesn't mean anything. I think

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it means something when they get to
the point of they get like into the

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tournament and they're in the sweet sixteen
or or or the lead eight, Okay,

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that's when it means Okay, so
what does it mean? It just

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means you got a guy in the
locker room who who can tell the other

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guys what to expect the guys.
That helps the guys. No, Steve,

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I think it helps. I think
I think especially they didn't know they

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just played. They didn't play the
ninety eight. They should have known.

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They didn't know, and they I
know. I'm not saying it fixes everything.

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I'm just saying it helps. Anytime
you have knowledge like that, it

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helps. Now, is it gonna
make you get Is it gonna get you

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into the final four? No,
you still gotta go on the court and

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play the games. But but when
when you're sitting there and you're hanging around

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with your guys and they're saying,
oh, yeah, we're gonna see it's

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gonna be like this, It's gonna
be like that. Final four is awesome.

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You know, we we got to
do all this, We got to

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do all that. Those kinds of
things. Either you know, they they

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you know, these guys put this
in the back of their brain when the

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time they think about it, and
maybe it motivates them a little bit.

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I think, is it Is it
a difference maker in terms of, oh,

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we're gonna get to the final four
because we got two guys who have

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been there? No? Yeah,
yeah, no, no, no.

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But but I'm a believer that,
uh, Gordon Geckel thing, the most

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valuable commodity is information. Okay,
right, okay, but this is knowing

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what to expect or what might be
come in your way always helps. I

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don't disagree with that. In basketball
though, it's and he kind of said

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this today, it's in basketball you
never know. It's so fluid. No,

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I'll give you my my defense.
Arizona went to the tournament. Your

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previous year went to Sweet sixteen.
It had had no influence on this year

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past the first round. I don't
know if Princeton went to I don't know.

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I could have checked. I don't
remember actually if they went to the

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tournament the year before or the year
before, if they had any guys with

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with the experience. It's how you
play that day and whether you have influencers

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that are older or younger. Made
eight was the perfect example here lash the

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previous year met ZIP two win in
the title. I hear you. I'm

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what I'm saying. I'm not saying
that having that information puts you. You

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know what I'm saying. It's just
having that maybe on a given day,

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you're a little more relaxed because you
kind of know what to expect. I

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think those two those things the thing
those two dudes do. But if Jay,

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if you're gonna tell me, we're
in a ball field and you've you've

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gone four for five against the picture
and you come Steve, okay, you

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know you're one for two or whatever. He's throwing this. He's throwing this.

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That's a little bit different. You
know, you you've seen it.

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This is what I'm seeing, and
this is how i'mitted. That's kind of

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different. Yeah, and it's kind
of the same where you know, Okay,

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we've been here. This is what
you're expect to big, good crowds,

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yeada YadA. But the dudes,
no, okay, ask any of

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the guys, not Caleb Love and
not Keisha Johnson. If they think what

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those guys experience is helping them,
and they're gonna say, yes, they're

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gone, then then it does help, of course, And it does help

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because they no, but it no, but it gives that guy just a

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sliver more maybe confidence and information as
they move along during the season. I

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get I get that, but I
don't. I don't don't believe that totally.

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It's like being a leader. It's
like being a leader, jay Um,

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and we disagree on certain things,
so you kind of know who the

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leader is, right and a team, whether everybody does, and you have

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your own leadership inside you, right, do you actually okay, the leader

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tells you do this or it's like
the Northwestern stuff, you have leaders who

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might have been part of this.
So what do you do? Listen to

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the leader or you say d V
and say shut the hell up. It

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depends on what kind of a leader
you are. Right, there weren't enough

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there obviously weren't enough leaders at Northwestern
to just stop what the hell is going

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on? OA, And I think
that's very talent. But but again it's

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just I don't disagree with you,
because I don't disagree with you. That's

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why you ask the question. I
think it's both. I think it's partly

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my stuff and your stuff because if
if they've been there, done that,

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they know, they know, but
it doesn't always work, and you know,

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and okay, let's go back to
the ninety eight ninety eight example.

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Maybe maybe the knowledge, okay,
made them think it was going to be

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easier than it was. You nailed
it, right, nailed it. But

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what I'm saying, but but what
I'm saying is that having the knowledge doesn't

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hurt. No, no, no, I don't think it hurts. I'm

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not saying that. I'm not saying
that because I agree with you. I

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agree with you, But how much
of an impact does it have? I

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think that's subjective. You really don't
know. Well, you know we won

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the game, because we've been here
before, we have proof that that's not

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the case for a lot in basketball
alone. Well, but it's a it

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can be a factor, but it's
not always a factor that puts you over

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the top. Sometimes it's it's just
a factor and you still didn't quite get

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there having that knowledge, or you
just played that day right, right.

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But no, I don't I don't
think it hurts. I think I think

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it helps. I think it helps
the locker room. Uh, you know,

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if you have to have a couple
of guys who who maybe on that

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day, maybe they're in an Elite
eight game, and on that day,

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maybe they're not as nervous as the
next guy, and they played better than

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the next guy because they've they've arrians
that that those are that That's kind of

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what I'm talking about. Yeah,
no, I kept that. I get

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that. But I also think that
players play, Yeah, players play big

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moments or whatever. They just are
living for this moment because they they're used

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to it. Yeah, but think
of Okay, think of all the Super

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Bowls that Tom Brady, you know, Okay, Okay, do you think

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he was nervous in the last last
five of them? Probably not, And

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probably the way he carried himself helped
other guys carry themselves better because they knew

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they had a guy who had been
through that a good example. And I

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liked, I liked the defense of
what you're saying. I don't disagree with

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you, because they knew that he's
capable of getting them there and knowing what

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to do right. But that that
also he kind of fed off that they

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fount off him. But yeah,
but then there was also a good,

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good example. There was also guess
what, they didn't win the Super Bowl

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even though they had a good example, good example. Both sides, Yeah,

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both sides. Yeah. I think
it's a circumstances of the events of

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that day. And I use everyone
in basketball this year with Princeton, they've

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been there, only what they all
happened. I think they just didn't play

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well. I mean, I just
think it can't hurt. I mean,

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how many guys are left on the
San Diego State basketball team that got to

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the Final four. A bunch of
them. But guess what they still got

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to go out there and win games, regardless of the experience they had,

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And just because they were there doesn't
get them there again this year. They

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might not. They could be so
bad they don't even get in the tournament.

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Yeah, you know who's gonna be
a good team to see about the

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FAU. Yeah, a team,
the entire team comes back, right,

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and let's see what the pressures.
See if they pull in in Arizona ninety

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eight and and have a and and
don't finish it because the expect take But

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see, the other thing that in
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you have on itself? But how
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Because of that? As much knowledge
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have it all the knowledge could in
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That there's a little bit about you
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know you can say no, no, there's that theory you Honestly, there

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have been times where I thought,
you know what, how much stop?

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Yeah, just stop? You got
us much as you're gonna get Colin,

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and I go go take the test
and I get that. That's kind of

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example I did that. I'm surprised, but you know what to say.

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You you have all this knowledge,
but now you have to apply to that

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game. There's another team that's saying, I don't care what you know.

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This is what I'm gonna do.
Let's see, I did that because there

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was a time when I had I
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did. I did do well on
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the disdain in school. Oh,
parents don't know that, they don't know

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that. They're probably nonetheless. Okay, cool, let's let's figure this out.

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So Brad Alice here in about to
five minutes, right and then and

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then will I guess at the first
gonna have some clips right while we picked

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we picked up a clip. We'll
have a conversation about this about DeAndre Ayton,

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okay, because look, you know, he's an Arizona guy. Regardless

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of the fact that he was here
six months. He's an Arizona guy.

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People claim we you know if Arizona
fans claim him for better or worse?

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Right, Um, there's a clip
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with the TV station in the Bahamas
where where he's from. You obviously there

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that I think is uh, a
little telling about what about what's going on

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over there. So we'll play that
for everybody. The fact that he acknowledges

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is it. Yeah, how can
you? How can you not know that?

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People think that you're seeing it every
day. He even sounded like me,

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he's very contrade about it or whatever. He's bummed about that they feel

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this way about Yeah. Yeah,
you know, he's like, man,

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I'm trying hard out here. People
people are saying I'm not. So we'll

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see what. We'll play that because
it's a it's a very interesting a little

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it's like a thirty second clip,
but it really tells you a lot about,

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you know, kind of what's happening
in his head. So all right,

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let's take our break. We're gonna
come back. We're gonna have Brad

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Alice from Ourcatt Sports support. We'll
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Wellcat Sports Report. Are you doing, Brett doing great? Great? Great?

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Great to have you on the anticipation
of the PAC twelve media day.

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What are you looking forward to most? I guess I'm looking forward to seeing

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how they skirt the issue of no
media deal, because I think it is

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a big deal that they don't have
anything ready doing out. I think it's

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bad for the league and bad for
their imagery and hopefully something's growing. But

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otherwise, I think it's gonna be
a really interesting league. I think the

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top three or four teams are really
really good, and the middle of the

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league is fascinating because I think you
could take everyone from maybe nine to five

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or four and mix them in a
bag and pull an aim out. He

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might be just as accurate as the
media and coaches pull. Yeah. I

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was wondering because we talked about this
yesterday with Jane. I would assume you'd

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have Arizona maybe seven, eighth or
ninth in the league, even though that

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you anticipate them to be better than
the past. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

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talking about this with someone else,
and I think, you know, there

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are there are four teams that I
think are clearly better, and then you

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start getting in that murky area of
Oregon State in UCLA, UM and so

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probably after them, So I think, yeah, you think you're looking at

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six, seven, eight, um. You know, Washington State I think

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is in that in that category too. So my guess is they will be

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in the lower half. But but
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get you know, those bottom teams
of Stanford. Uh. You know,

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I think Colorado might get some votes, even though I don't think they roy

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deserve it. I think a SU
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really kind of cal Arizona and Washington
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or eighth position. So uh,
there were there were two guys that were

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put on the second team All Pac
twelve. A bunch of guys in uh

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in uh honorable mention preseason, a
bunch more than last year, but still

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really nobody in you know, first
team consideration. You had Jordan Morgan,

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who's considered, you know, possible
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came back, you know what led
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year. I mean, we're you
know, is it is it going to

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take a while affair Zoner to start
seeing guys you know, in better position

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than that, or is it just
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because the league is so good,
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Yeah, it's accommodation. I think
anyone who didn't vote for Savina for

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at least second team is foolish.
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the best, one of the best
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Um. I understand not putting Jordan
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the injury, but that's the guy
who was at one point projected as the

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first rounder. To me, the
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is having Singer on the first team
and Cowing on the second team, when

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I think you could argue that they
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wearing Arizona uniforms. But for the
most part, you know, I had

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people ask me like, what do
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and being on there. I'm like, well, you know, he's he's

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a starting linebacker on one of the
worst defenses in the league. So yeah,

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you're gonna have to win games,
improve it to people. You know,

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Arizona was improved last year, but
when they lost, they lost pretty

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one sided. So you're gonna have
to win more games and be in more

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games to get that kind of respect. And you know, if you're an

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Arizona player, use it as use
disrespect or perceived disrespect as motivation and chip

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on your shoulders. So when you
do play a guy who you don't think

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it's as good as you, who's
on that list, you gotta beat them.

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Yeah, let's stay on that side
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that they'll have to improve on that
area. They did, like you said,

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last year, but now they're gonna
have to keep opponents into the mid

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thirties. Arizona's offense can score,
where can they come up with the better

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defense? O'kay? The position that
I like is the two interior defensive line

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positions. I think they go a
legit five or six deep there. I

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am worried about the edge rushing.
I think the linebacking corps is solid with

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the potential to be really good if
some of the young players are levit Igasua

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are as good as advertised, if
Justin Flow can stay healthy. And I

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like the cornerbacks. You know,
I am worried about thy as I mentioned

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the Russians. I'm worried about the
safety position. So some guys are going

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to have to develop or step up, or some of these transfers who you

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know, we're okay at their former
school are going to have to play a

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lot better, you know. Looking
at guys, you know, like the

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the two cornerback transfers, the two
defensive back transfers. Looking at a guy

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like Oran Patu is buying at Cal
but it's going to have a bigger role

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at Arizona. But I am encouraged
by the guys they have brought in on

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that interior defensive life. Most notably, you have Norton from Georgia, who's

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who's a solid players. You have
the kid from Indiana who I think as

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a potgially really good. When you
mixed them with some of the guys you're

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bringing back from last year, we're
not playing two hundred and fifty pound defensive

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tackles anymore, and that I think
is vital for Arizona not to just get

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you know, the ball stuff down
their throat. You know, one of

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the things that we hear a lot
is the defense only has to be a

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little better, not a lot better. But how much little better does it

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need to be for them to say, win six or seven games, you

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know, to not be getting blown
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year. I mean, you know, obviously some areas one are the most

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critical things. I think one things
is just a flow has to say healthy

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if he's going to be as good
as everybody says he can be. But

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you know, how how much better
do they need to get? Probably ten

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points a game? You know,
you subtract ten points, and you subtract

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a couple of those long drives lighting
games or late touchdowns, and Arizona has

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a chance to win some of those
games with the ball in their hand as

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opposed to chasing points late. You
know, you look at the cow game

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where they couldn't make a stop in
the second half. You look at the

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Washington game where they were in it
for a while but just couldn't make a

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stop in the second half. You
know that you win one of those and

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you went bowling last year. Yeah, so yeah, I don't think it's

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a huge margin, because I do
think the offense will be will be better

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as well. Um, but you
know, the blanket thing would be to

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say ten points. Really you have
to make a few plays per game,

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get a key pick here, get
a key stop there, and suddenly you're

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driving with a chance to win.
So we talk about this to the excitement

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of the of the season. Um, we haven't seen this in a while,

408
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.039
obviously, never seen the summer in
time, maybe a little a time

409
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or two in the Rodriguez tenure.
What do you what do you get out

410
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.920
there publicly or since Yeah, I
think I think we're we're we're rich rod

411
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:41.039
era of excitement, which is certainly
nothing like stoops heck, nothing even like

412
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:42.559
the end of the tomy, beginning
of the Macavic era, where I think

413
00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.559
Tucson was a football town waiting to
happen, and it never happened. I

414
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:52.160
don't know if it ever will now. Um yea, you know, they

415
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.000
haven't been to the highs of what
they did. They've certainly been consistently the

416
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.160
better product for now thirty years.
But I think, yeah, I think

417
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.240
people optimistic. You know, when
Elijah Rushing to mid Arizona, I heard

418
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:07.880
from it from people I've never heard
about football before. You know, people

419
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:12.400
are talking about the wide receivers and
talking about you know, Jaden de Laura

420
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.559
good and bad, but they're talking
about them. You know, people are

421
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.839
talking about whether Jet Fish will stay
at Arizona, and you know when it

422
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:23.039
was the last time fans were clamoring
for their coach to stay at Arizona football.

423
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.519
So I think it's a good thing, you know, whether you know

424
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.799
they missed that window of really being
a place that can consistently put fifty thousand

425
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.640
people in the stands. I'm fortunately, I think they are, but I

426
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.680
think they can get a growing and
solid fan base. And there's you know,

427
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.759
I think we've long said there's thirty
five thousand dedicated Wildcat fans you need

428
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.160
to add about ten or fifteen to
that bandwagon and you're in good shape.

429
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.119
Yeah, I think those crowds of
twenty thousand are probably we probably gone go

430
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.759
ahead and tell what you said.
Well you probably didn't, but I'm like,

431
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.319
I can't believe you just said that
Arizona may never get to be uh

432
00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.160
you know, say again that it's
a football town. Right. There was

433
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.319
just gonna just continue, Yeah,
I was, I was gonna hang up

434
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:07.839
the phone. Well, I would
say this, and back when I worked,

435
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.839
you know, in the daily grind
of the media as opposed to the

436
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.000
weekly grind of the media, I
already thought Two Sons was a football town

437
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.799
when you look at people like the
NFL. They liked high school football,

438
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:22.559
they like the WOW, they liked
Ludelson's teams because they were good. But

439
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.200
this wasn't a basketball town. And
I don't think that's the same as it

440
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.079
was. I think, you know, when you talk to people, people

441
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:33.240
like the Suns, they liked the
NBA. This the guys my age and

442
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.240
I would say ten years younger who
grew up with Arizona basketball are now one

443
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.160
of the best fan bases in college
basketball. I mean, Steve can attested

444
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.519
this. You know, Jay,
you probab Into. You go to Las

445
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.279
Vegas for the PAC twelve tournament,
what do you see, Wildcat fan It

446
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:51.119
looks like every fan base other than
maybe Kentucky. You go to the NSA

447
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:55.960
tournament, there's gonna be five thousand
Wildcap fans. They're a legitimate big boy

448
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.240
fan base, which they really weren't
even in the height of the lud Olson

449
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.519
era. It was that older fan
base that had money. But you didn't

450
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:04.480
have a bunch of guys in their
thirties, you know, saving up their

451
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.480
work money to go to the PAT
twelve tournament. Now you do and the

452
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:12.319
guy and I think football missed that. I think there's a lot of people

453
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:17.759
who like you of a sports who
like football. But unfortunately, and maybe

454
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.559
I'm wrong again, you get to
one Rolls Bowl or whatever the Bowl Arizona

455
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.839
feeds into now with the playoffs,
and maybe you changed that. But I

456
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.079
really think you had an opportunity in
the Stokes era, especially where this team

457
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.160
was just clamoring for a football winner. I can tell you if you remember

458
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:40.880
the Lewis Holmes Gaylong recruitment when I
worked at a different radio station, if

459
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:45.160
people knew I was on they would
call an hour before my shift started to

460
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.799
talk football recruiting. You know,
they were asking for my home phone number

461
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.680
so they could call it ask for
a who was homes update for it could

462
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.720
being Carrie update. And unfortunately,
I think that we may just have missed

463
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.839
that window. I hope I'm wrong. I completely hope I'm wrong. But

464
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.880
I think you know, again,
when you're looking at guys from thirty five

465
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.759
to fifty my age, they're diehard. You have a basketball fans now,

466
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.440
and that's where they're putting their money. I'm not too sure that's a fair

467
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.480
assessment, Brad. In terms of
Vegas, if you put every home game

468
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.839
in Vegas, even though they have
to travel six hours, they would fill

469
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.839
up because it's Vegas. That's part
of the charm. If you if you

470
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.640
have you ever been there at twelve
o'clock or midnight, one o'clock in the

471
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.720
morning, they're still dancing in the
You know this, Ja, we talked

472
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.240
about this. It's now and it's
crazy. Yeah, and you said something

473
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.559
that I know, no, no, that that's my point. But I

474
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:37.440
think other fan bases could do that
and dun't because they're not Arizona Basketball fans.

475
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.400
You know, you see Utah fans. You don't see five ten thousand

476
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.839
ASU fans, even though it's a
two hours shorter drive. Different you don't.

477
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.799
You don't. You don't see USC
bands there, at least when I

478
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:51.920
went there. You don't see Washington
fans. Um, you have a fan

479
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:56.000
base for basketball is just a different
It's it's an elite fan base now.

480
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.960
It didn't used to be. It
used to be your blue hairs and some

481
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.599
crazy students. It's a leak fan
base now and that's just not true of

482
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:04.480
you of a football right now.
But it will become one, I hope.

483
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.920
So I just somehow I think they
may miss to win. That.

484
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.319
I will say about the basketball fan
though, that I and I've said this

485
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.359
all the way back to the eighties, that they're Arizona basketball fans. They're

486
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.880
not college basketball fans, right right
right, And I still believe that,

487
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.200
even though maybe a a little more
knowledgeable. But they're Arizona fans, you

488
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.000
know. I mean I said that
because the last time Arizona hosted an NCUBAA

489
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.839
tournament here they had trouble selling tickets
because local fans weren't going. But I

490
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.880
believe that. But I also agree
with you too that Arizona was they seemed

491
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:41.960
so close in the rich rot Era
during the stops are even towards the end

492
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.319
of I mean, Tommy Eric even
the stuops there, it was just right

493
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.519
there. And then they lost it. And then someone came in and just

494
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:52.720
stepped on olive and said on fire. And now you know here we are

495
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.119
trying to get out of that.
So I agree with you on all of

496
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.440
that. Let's let's talk a little
bit about the PAC twelve as a whole,

497
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.480
because you know, Steve and I
spent a segment of the show a

498
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.000
couple of days ago trying to find
six wins for Arizona. Well, I

499
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.799
think this Arizona team is going to
be way better than last year's team.

500
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.519
It's hard to find six wins and
get them to a ball. They're gonna

501
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.799
have to win a couple of games
that we that you might not expect them

502
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.680
to win because the rest of the
league is so dang good. And I

503
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:25.759
think there's there's you know, Arizone's
got three can't win games in Utah,

504
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.920
Washington and USC and so then they've
got you know, three games that they

505
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:37.880
absolutely should win in in a su
Colorado, and Stanford. So then there's

506
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.960
four that says you got to win
probably three of those two maybe two of

507
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.759
those to get yourself to a bowl
game. If you win to your two

508
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.200
of your non conference games, I
mean this league is going to be harder.

509
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.920
So they may go five and seven
again and be a lot better than

510
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.359
they were last years. When I'm
saying no, I think you're right.

511
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.599
I think I've talked to me much
that this team could win anywhere from four

512
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.680
to seven or eight games, and
you could convince me of any of the

513
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:06.200
four. Um, you're right,
those three games at the top are daunting.

514
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.960
Um I would say that, yeah, they're they're I don't want to

515
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:13.200
say impossible, because we've all seen
Arizona pull these bird wins out. But

516
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.319
that also means they're probably losing a
game to you know, a teammate shouldn't.

517
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.160
But those middle games are the ones
that are fascinated. You know.

518
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.240
Again, I've said there's five or
six games that are pretty equal, you

519
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.920
know, whether it's UCLA, whether
it's Oregon State, Washington State, Arizona,

520
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.000
Cal maybe forgetting one there too,
but they're all pretty equal. So

521
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.759
it's whoever can win more of the
toss up games. You know, can

522
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.920
you pick off Mississippi State because they're
breaking in a new offer M daunting task

523
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.160
absolutely, So yeah, they're gonna
have to win some games like that.

524
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.200
You know, they're not going to
have to not be upset by an ASU

525
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:52.000
team that's playing at home and maybe
playing for that's their season. So it

526
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:53.640
is a daunting task. And again, I think we have to look at

527
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:58.519
this as a whole. Do they
look better against USC? Do they look

528
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.519
better against Washington? And maybe not
even winning those games, but certainly yeah,

529
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.039
you got to point to I think
most fans are not being except five

530
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.000
and seven, even if holistically and
stylistically it looks better. Well, and

531
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.039
then you got the factor that the
USC and Washington games are back to back.

532
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.800
I mean, that's going to be
really good. And again and Arizona

533
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.639
has traditionally in recent years not matched
up well with Washington. Yeah, you

534
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:29.360
know they've they've been okay against USC, but Washington has just really more often

535
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.159
not had their number recently, just
like they have matched up somewhat well with

536
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:36.599
Utah of late. You know,
remember that game two years ago where they

537
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.440
almost beat them during the COVID season. Um, and had no business even

538
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:45.719
being in that game because they barely
beat cow what the week before we had

539
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.920
no players. But that being said, Utah's really good, Yeah, cows

540
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.960
are. Washington's really really good.
USC's really really good, Oregon's really really

541
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.840
good. Okay, Yesterday, Stephen
I made a bet and we try to

542
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:05.840
pick a champion, and we both
picked different teams. And the bet is

543
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.119
that one of ours if one of
our teams win. If one of our

544
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:13.119
teams does not win the championship,
it's no blood. Steve took USC.

545
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.239
I took Washington. I picked first. I too, I took Washington.

546
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.800
I think I think Washingtons affectall champion
this year. Where's your head on that?

547
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.239
I like thinking outside the box.
I like Washington too. I think

548
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:30.119
Washington maybe better one to twenty.
USC's better one to fifty, one to

549
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.480
sixty. But that top of that, you Washington, you know, I

550
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.159
like Panics a lot. He's not
as good as Caleb Williams, but he's

551
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.239
close. That wide receiver crew is
I'm really good. We've seen what Washington

552
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.440
has stocked out on defense the last
few years. My whole thing is if

553
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.000
Kaylin the Boor is as good a
coach as he looked like at Fresno.

554
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.679
Then I think Washington is really good
because again I think USC has a lot

555
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:59.440
of talent, but Lincoln Raley somehow
couldn't run the table in the Big twelve.

556
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:01.760
No, yeah, I have my
doubts about LinkedIn round in USC,

557
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.800
they're gonna be really good, they're
gonna win ten or eleven. But yeah,

558
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.159
I kind of like Washington as the
outside the box uh pick there,

559
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.159
like how you think, well,
I'm glad that you can take you you

560
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.719
both, you can take that box
and living it after after I would submit.

561
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.280
See, it's not like you made
a bad pick. It's not like

562
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.079
I think it's gonna be cow.
I mean, USC's really really in.

563
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.280
USC's a safe thick, But I
just kind of liked Washington the way they're

564
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:32.599
made up. Yeah, I went
with Chalk. It was obviously yeah,

565
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.719
okay, but I brot Thanks about
Chamber. I appreciate it anytime guys take

566
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.679
off bro Alice well Kat sports authority. Yeah that was fine. Yeah,

567
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.079
I love you know, we're gonna
have to be picking the brains of all

568
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.039
these guys that we uh that we
you know, you get them on here

569
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:51.159
and say okay, whatn't you?
What are your thoughts now as we're headed

570
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:57.679
to media day and practice starting.
Brian Jeffrey's out here. Maybe lamont love

571
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:02.840
it. You'll get tomorrow. Yeah, Yogi Rothmorrow back football animals. Yeah,

572
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.079
we got it. Yeah, yeah, I can't mess that up.

573
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:07.559
All right, stick around, we'll
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Jacan Solids they have their I on
the Ball on Tucson sports station Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty. Okay, welcome back
to I'm the Ball here on Fox Sports

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Court Team coup be on Steve D's
Jay, do you have about twelve minutes

620
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in live minutes if you guys want
to give us a quick call here talking

621
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about whatever you want, football or
just around the corner. Jay's happy about

622
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.639
that. Yeah, you know,
I'm happy that we're talking about football,

623
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.159
right It's I know, we're still
talking about TV deals, We're still talking

624
00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:00.599
about Jane deloran Is off the field
stuff. We're talking about Northwestern football and

625
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.519
stuff. But we're starting. You
know, we spend some time with Brad

626
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:07.880
Alls talking about games and how anything're
gonna win. You were asking, um,

627
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.239
you know the Washington in USC back
to back games, what happened right

628
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.920
right? See, because that four
game stretch I think is not so much

629
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.719
a gauntlet but it's a gauntlet for
Arizona because they have to prove a lot

630
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:22.840
in that stretch. Yeah, it's
it's it's two games that if you're marking

631
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:24.280
them down today, you're marking them
is lost. Okay. So okay,

632
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.920
let's go for the first one.
Okay, Well, let's even go a

633
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.840
week before that, because you've got
your three non conference games. Let's just

634
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:36.840
say we keep saying you gotta go
to Stanford. That's a game you gotta

635
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:38.000
win. Two and two, even
though it's on the road. No.

636
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.039
Three and three and one, that's
a game you gotta win, even though

637
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.480
you're on the road. Yeah,
that was my most bad mess. So

638
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.320
let's say you're three, you're three
and one. Now you got Washington at

639
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:54.760
home, you go to USC,
you go to Washington State, and then

640
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.480
you got to Oregon State. And
so that's these four games that and then

641
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:01.679
that in after Oregon, say you
got UCLA. Okay, so that's a

642
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.360
stretch of five games. Shutch the
five games. Let's go to the four

643
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.159
okay. So you're two and one
right going into the four, right,

644
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.119
three one, three and one?
Okay, So then you play USC first.

645
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.599
You said Washington first, Washington first, Okay, that's a lost,

646
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.519
Right, that's a lost. It
should be okay, So, but it's

647
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.079
at home, you get an atmosphere
game or whatever you just picked. I

648
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.440
think it's a lost. You just
picked to win. No, No,

649
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.599
I think it's a lot. Okay, Okay, I think it's a lost.

650
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.079
Just Washington the win the league.
They can't afford to lose the Arizona.

651
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:31.320
Yeah, no, I that's why
I think it's a lost. But

652
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:37.960
I'm just gonna say it's you know, it could be that unexpected win because

653
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.039
you're playing at home, get the
right atmosphere, you know. Let's say

654
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:43.960
you got a you know, let's
say Arizone is three and one and and

655
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.239
and and the networks say, hey, this is gonna be a fun game.

656
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:51.199
Let's put it on at a good
spot. Google spelled Pollyanna. Hold

657
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:58.000
on, look who's picture of the
show it. It's a lot. Okay,

658
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.280
So okay, let's see how they
survived that and then they okay,

659
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:05.559
this is another one. How do
they survive this game? Whether they play

660
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:09.320
well or and they play usc sometimes
play Look, you know, from a

661
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.360
physical stamp physically, in terms of
getting beat up physically, right, you're

662
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.559
more fearful of the Washington game than
the USC game. USC. They don't

663
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.719
scare me as the terms of this. You know, this line is gonna

664
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.079
pound the crap out of you,
and you're gonna come out of that all

665
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:27.320
banged up. You know, you
may lose that game because they beat you

666
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.400
because they got better players, right, Okay, So let's go on two.

667
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:32.000
But I think I'm more concerned about
how they come out of there,

668
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:37.519
if they're not demoralized or or physically
okay or whatever. Because now the two

669
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.760
games that we talked about that were
not must wins but very capable of winning,

670
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.880
that could switch that they need to
get one one of the next two,

671
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.239
and this is and they put the
next one where Oregon State at home

672
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.039
home. So okay, an organ
stain is going to be much better allegedly,

673
00:43:52.480 --> 00:44:00.159
Uh Paul, yeah, next,
next one, next alleged Okay,

674
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.199
So let's say, okay, it's
it's we're gonna know by that time and

675
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.119
the circumstances of the events of the
previous two will kind of show you how

676
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:12.880
good this team can be. Is
Dolora okay? Is a team Okay?

677
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:16.679
And then if they can survive Oregon
State, let's assume they do be Oregon

678
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.800
State. Now you've got to go
on the road to play. Then you

679
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.679
have ult Washington State, they have
Washington They're at USC at Washington State,

680
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:31.079
Oregon State at home. See it
again at USC at Washington State. Okay,

681
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.280
Oregon State at home. Okay.
So the Washington State game is the

682
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:38.079
first crucial and that's on the road, and Dolora goes home, right,

683
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:43.360
goes back, I should say,
And we saw what happened last year here

684
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.599
try to do too much and played
horribly. Yes, and now the circumstances

685
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:52.119
of this year are there's no nothing
different, you know. Yeah, No,

686
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.000
well you hope he's a year older, he's a year more mature,

687
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.400
he handles it better. Um,
but who knows. Plus, but you

688
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.239
got the fact that it's at Washington
State as a which came to you feel

689
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:13.280
more comfortable between the Washington State and
Oregon State. Washington State because because I

690
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:20.039
mean, look, because of because
of who I am as an Arizona fan,

691
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.079
okay, and that every time everybody
thought Arizona was gonna be really really

692
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:28.880
good, they weren't. Hey,
The times that they were really really good

693
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:34.400
came out of nowhere, right,
So that's what Oregon State as a program.

694
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.639
I don't even think I would put
them at the same level as Arizona.

695
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.840
Maybe recently they have been, but
long term, historically long history of

696
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.719
the two programs, Arizona has been
a better overall programs. Okay, But

697
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.239
what I'm saying is that Oregan's organs
hearing it. Oh, we're gonna be

698
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.800
really good. Every Jonathan Jonathan Smith
is really good. Organ states this organ

699
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:59.360
states that they're over under his eight
and a half. That's a that's a

700
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.880
perfect I want to program like when
Oregon State, like in Arizona, like

701
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.760
an a su gets all full of
itself and doesn't get to where they think

702
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:09.199
it's gonna get to, and they
might not be very good. You sure,

703
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.559
I've accused you of this for a
long time. You overanalyze all this

704
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:17.880
stiff the wonder you ask for other
people for advice. I don't I like

705
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.559
the theory of what you're doing.
But that's way overthinking it. Because organ

706
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.880
State, it's gonna be good.
It's gonna be good. Maybe they're over

707
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.599
unders. If eight and a half
was Arizona's number, you would be googling,

708
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:37.199
goggling over Arizona. But I'd probably
take the under. But that's okay

709
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:42.000
because because of the history. I'm
an Arizona fan, your history, you're

710
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.639
realistic. I mean, we're all
excited. Uh you know in ninety four

711
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.360
when Arizona's on the cover Sports Illustrated
they're going to play Penn State and we

712
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.840
did a big party to watch a
game and stuff like that. In the

713
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.920
little piece of the back of my
mind, I thought, man, you

714
00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:01.840
know, because we're Arizona. You
know, the Arizona never gets to be

715
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.639
that team, and it hasn't.
That's right that you know the ninety eight

716
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.400
season. Who thought that was gonna
happen? Right then what happened in ninety

717
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.960
nine? They crapped all over themselves, right you know. The twenty fourteen

718
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.760
team and everybody coming back I under
Solomon, all the guys coming back and

719
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.920
in twenty fifteen. So so where
do you for you, how do you

720
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:28.039
feel now about this team? Yeah, given what you just said, because

721
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.559
you're your background and you put a
lot of stock in like I know,

722
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:35.119
but this team, because but this
team, there's still a lot of people

723
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.639
saying they're gonna suck. So I
don't think they're gonna be all full of

724
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.599
themselves about how great they're gonna know
this is the board chip on their shoulder

725
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:43.480
guards right right, because they have
no choice and that and to me,

726
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.760
that's when an Arizona team thrives us
again the world. Everybody thinks we're gonna

727
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.280
suck, So we're not gonna suck. You've been think, I know.

728
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.119
I think there was a lot of
that last year. Yeah, right,

729
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.599
yeah, yeah, there was a
lot of that last year, right right.

730
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:58.679
And do you think even the twenty
fourteen team had that, Steve,

731
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:01.079
I mean, of course they went
up to Oregon to pay to play Marcus

732
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:07.320
Mariota and those guys. There wasn't
a chance. And normally Steve my group

733
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.000
for that game would have had a
watch party, which the Oregon game up

734
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.320
there would have had a watch party. It was a Thursday night, nobody

735
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.159
did. I just sat on my
couch and watch that game in disbelief that

736
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.719
Arizona was gonna win this game.
Yeah, I think, uh. And

737
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.320
then weeks later it was nice.
Well they lost the USC the next week,

738
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.079
yeah right, And then they got
killed by Oregon later in the year,

739
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.440
and then they got yeah, then
they got killed in the in the

740
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.840
and and at no time and no
time did anythink Arizona was champion. I

741
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.079
thought Oregon is gonna I don't know
that Oregan's gonna kill him, but Oregon

742
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.599
is not gonna lose this game.
And they did. But anyways, going

743
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.519
back, you know you got you
got the Washington USC, Washington State organ

744
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.519
state. Then you got UCLA at
home, that UCLA at home. Let's

745
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:57.400
say things don't go well, okay, USC at home is a chance to

746
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.679
kind of redeem yourself. Or let's
say they do go well. Now your

747
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.000
CLA at home becomes a chance to
keep it, you know, keep the

748
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.519
ball rolling. And then you close
out with Colorado. You're tiny a su

749
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.119
two out of three. You know
you should win two out of three there.

750
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:14.280
So if you had, if you
had some money and and and I

751
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:19.880
give you this option, would you
bet one hundred bucks every game on Arizona?

752
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:28.559
You write money line? Money line
for twelve Gamesould I pay them to

753
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.719
win? Because one they're gonna be
underdog in a bunch of those games,

754
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.519
So you're gonna get good odds money
line. Okay, And the worst thing

755
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.920
you're gonna do is go six and
six, five and five and seven.

756
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.440
Yeah, you lose. I think
you, and I think if you go

757
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:43.360
five and seven, some of the
odds that you're going to get on the

758
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.000
money line pay, we'll pay.
So I if I if I'm beat,

759
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:49.639
if I have twelve hundred dollars to
put one hundred dollars on each game,

760
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.360
I'm betting Arizona to win. Okay, So go to the list again,

761
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.719
and well, I'll tell you about
we'll talk about whether they'll be favorites or

762
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:59.639
not favorite favorite, Okay, and
you'll there will be a line and that'll

763
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.480
be two two. W will be
minus two hundred or something. Mississippi State

764
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.559
negative yeah, minus, they'll be
plus something. No, they'll be plus

765
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.239
plus plus U TAP they'll be minus
something, right, Stanford they'll be minus

766
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.599
something. Washington they'll be plus something, big number, A big number.

767
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:22.079
USC they'll big plus a big plus
three hundred something, Washington State plus a

768
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:27.519
plus maybe plus one hundred one twenty
okay, or maybe minus one hundred minus

769
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.719
one plus. Yeah, Oregon State
they're gonna be plus plus u c l

770
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.920
A. They're probably gonna be plus. Colorado they're gonna be minus can be

771
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.920
favored you tih they're gonna be an
underdog an A SU probably be favored.

772
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:43.159
So I'm gonna say they're gonna be
fair if you count the U. There

773
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.679
are any U game. Sometimes it's
hard to find a line on a on

774
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:52.320
a on a game with an FCS
tate, but Arizona Northern Arizona because the

775
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:53.920
last time I think you'll find a
line on that. So I think Arizona

776
00:50:53.920 --> 00:51:00.840
will be favorite in one, two, three, four, five games and

777
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:06.079
then Washington the Washington State game depend
you know, depends on what the two

778
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:07.719
teams have done up to that point. I would think being on the road,

779
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.719
they're more likely to not be favorite
in that game. So how many

780
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.840
games it will be? Five?
Five, five? Save your money,

781
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:20.480
But I do if they pull off
a win or two. Let's say let's

782
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.920
say Washington at at a plus three
hundred or something. Thought the team you

783
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:27.400
picked it with at all? Well, whoever are your USC or Utah?

784
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.760
You tell us the home game,
right, and and Brad May Brad House

785
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.480
made a good point, they do
play well against Utah at home. Haven't

786
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:42.639
gone to those theories, baby,
tightly, don't stop me now, all

787
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:44.760
right, we're gonna take a break
for it to come back, and we're

788
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:45.719
gonna breaking news. Top of the
hour, we'll be right back