Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us for another live stream episode
of Dog Meeting Encounters. We've got a pretty intense one for you tonight.
But before we get into the particulars of what this man and his dog unfortunately
had to go through, we're going to bring him on here and basically introduce
you to them. Of course, in talking about our guest tonight, Brett.
Brett, thanks so much for coming on. That's my pleasure. Thank
you for having me. I appreciate it. Well, you know, you're
welcome. Yeah, thanks so much for your time and for doing this.
I know it's not easy to talk about. It's a pretty traumatic experience that
both you and Murphy had, but you know, like I said, that's
one of the biggest reasons why we appreciate you coming so much. But before
we get to the particulars of your encounter, can you please give us a
brief bio on yourself. Oh, I'm in like Dedja. I've lived in
Las Vegas, off and on most of my life. I I'm a big
dog person. I've had dogs my entire life, multiple dogs usually. I
went through a period of my life where I didn't have any and that was
really tough. On me. And that's when my little buddy. I was
babysitting a dog, and my little baby buddy, Murphy was born in my
closet while I was babysitting his mom and dad, and it was, you
know, for me, it was love at first sight. I can't tell
you what Murphy thought. And the lady that I was babysitting for actually let
me keep Murphy after the week period, of course, and he's been my
constant companion for the last eleven years now. And after this encounter, I
actually started fostering dogs. And now, like I said, I've got about
five deep right now. I've always just I try to do what I can
for the dogs in the world because I think somebody needs to kind of stick
up on, especially the strays. You're a good man for doing that,
and of course for other reasons as well. Considering the fact that your encounter
with Murphy, with that dog me, it happened in twenty sixteen. How
old is he now? He's eleven? So he's eleven, okay, I
see is he doing okay? Because even for a smaller dog like him,
eleven's kind of getting up there. Well, you know what's he's pretty healthy
right now, he's a little beside himself. We just lost his mom a
couple of weeks ago, and yeah, that that really threw him for a
loop. Me too for that matter. But she was she was sixteen,
and she had a good life. So yeah, she lived with you,
she did. Yeah, she had a good life. You know. Yeah.
Actually, actually again, after this encounter happened, after I came back
to Las Vegas. After this, the owner of Lulu, who his mom,
actually had to put her up for adoption in a in a shelter.
I just happened to see her on Facebook, and I ran down to the
shelter as fast as I could and adopted her. I couldn't unfortunately, I
was too late for her his father because he'd already been adopted. But I
grabbed Litely right away, and so she was with us and then on.
So I had her for eleven eleven years too. Sure, I'm sure those
were eleven great years. I've gotten adults about that. Yeah, it's great,
it's a great it's a great life. You know. Again, I'm
not big on people. Sometimes I kind of isolate myself from human beings.
But but yeah, I love my I love my dogs, I love my
animals. So that's that's a big part of part of who I am.
I can there's the why you say that, because yeah, I feel the
same way. I collect the whole set also I do. Yeah, yeah,
too many animals around here, but I've got five five dogs, a
cat, and a turtle and a little robot which can probably you're speaking in
the background, but well you already put a thumb on it tonight when we're
doing this, if you have to step away because of the five dogs you've
got in the house with you, then yeah, just let me know,
like I told you before, and I'll just do something like maybe I'll sing
to pass time while you tend to them, and then once you come back,
well there you go. Well, they're all being pretty streaty, characteristically
nice right now, so it's good. Well that's scary. It makes you
wonder they might be plotting on you. Yeah, I know, I don't
don't know what they're thinking about now, but yes, and Murphy's right here
next to me. He's he's he's all cuddled up. He's ready to go.
After Lulu's death because unfortunately it was you know, we've had some problems
with some of these animals before, some of them being aggressive and stuff.
He's been really shy, he he has. I think he's got flashbacks too,
to be honest with you, I mean, I know that's one of
the first reasons I contacted you was because I was getting these these nightmares.
And like I said, this happened or what like almost ten years ago.
Now, well I'm not quite ten years and I started I started getting these
nightmares again, and I think he does too. In essence, who has
been gone? He's been acting kind of running right, why come through it?
I can understand why you two would have nightmares because that encounter, Like
I said in the description for tonight's show, you can almost make a movie
out of that encounter. The qualities what happened to both you and especially what
happened to poor Murphy. I mean, that is just perfect unfortunately for Hollywood
script for all. Yeah, it'd be perfect. It'd be like maybe fifteen
minutes long. But yeah, I don't know it would be longer than that.
But yeah, I hope his nightmares. I hope they stop soon and
he's not still reliving that experience because he had that one. I don't really
be good. Yeah, I don't know how dog's memories work, but I
don't know if he's actually remembering that or he's just he's just traumatized period with
the death of his mom and stuff like that. So, you know,
we always have a tendency to kind of answer memorphize dogs feelings and their actions
and things like that and kind of make them makes ourselves think that they're thinking
certain things, when who knows how they really think. But I know that
he's got a lot of emotion, you know, and all my dogs do.
And that's one thing I think about his fostering dogs has done for me
over the years, is you can they're all individual and you can look into
their eyes and you can know what they're thinking. And I've never come across
a dog that I haven't been able to at least calm down. Like I
was telling you earlier, all the dogs I have now are considered unadoptable,
and I love them. I think they're wonderful dogs, but not a lot
of people might people don't really want them, which is a shame, but
that's the way it is. That really is a shame. But now I
understand what you're saying. Unless the dog fits a certain type of profile.
Then I guess it's all too easy to consider that dog unadoptable. It really
is. It's a shame because you know, you want people to get rescue
dogs and stuff, but they expect these rescue dogs to be perfect, and
they're just not. They've already been traumatized, they've already have they already have
a history, they already have been through it, you know, and they've
got baggage, you know, just like people. You know. Oh,
of course, I mean if I was a dog, I'd be unadoptable,
So that's improven. Can't fall him at all for that and for me while
he was wondering, if you take a look at the avatar, the bread
has up on the screen right now, you'll be able to see Murphy and
be able to see how adorable he is. Yeah, I can understand why
you did fall for him the moment you saw him. Well, yeah,
yeah, it's funny because he's named after Murphy's Law, and it's because she,
Lulu had him. He was the first one out and I heard her
scream it's like three o'clock in the morning, and she went shooting out of
my closet, which where she had the puppies at and she went shooting out
of my closet, dragging him by the umbilical cord behind her, like oh
wow, oh god. And so I put her back in the box and
then she kicked him out of the box. I was like, oh my
god, what's wrong with this puppies? She doesn't want him. But eventually
she took to him and he was fine. But she was the rug.
He was the only boy, and he was the only black one that everybody
else was ten and female. Well, thank goodness, took him back in.
Yeah, I was worried, but she did. She took him back
in pretty quick. She apparently she'd had several letters before before him and I
was and he was getting too old for it. He just didn't want to
do it anymore. I mean, you can't really blame her after that,
you know, No, you can't blame her. But like I said,
good she took him back. Yeah. Well in my constant companion, Well,
I can understand how that must be just your lucky man to have him
around. Definitely s a dog, you know, the emotional support dog.
He goes to wherever I go, and that's always been the case. Then
he was like, maybe three. I wouldn't say three or four something like
that. Yeah, it was just he was he was a sweet pup.
If he's always been a very serious dog. You know, it's kind of
weird to say, but he's not like one of these playful, little fluffy
pops. He just he's he's well, he's got a look at his eye.
That's it's he's always been very serious about life. Well, I can't
think of a better constant companion. Yeah, he's changed my life. The
dogs have changed my life. I was not a I haven't always been a
wonderful guy. I mean, I try to be as much as I can
be. But you know, I had, I had. I was back
then I was married or getting a divorce actually, and uh, you know
I had, I had. I had fallen into like a depression and drugs,
and uh, I had been pretty much uh what do you call the
tough that's called the tough love, my family called it. But I had
pretty much been exonerated from the family. I was no longer welcoming the family,
and my wife of course left me, and I'm going to sell the
house. And I pretty much had lost everything. I was in bad shape
and I still was on drugs, so that, you know, I had
nothing left here in Las Vegas, and so a friend of mine asked me
if I wanted to come stay with him. He'd just gotten a mobile home
up in Washington State, and I said, yeah, sure, why not.
You know, it sounds like a nice change of pace in the desert
anyway. So yeah, that's that's how it all started. But that didn't
work out because after I told him about the encounter, he just kind of
he really thought it was me was crazy, and he didn't feel comfortable with
me staying there, so I just left. Something I want to stress is
the fact that you were not high at the time of the encounter. Oh
my god, nout out I would have been. Yeah, to make sure
everyone listening understands that. But we've kind of danced around the topic enough.
If you're ready to tell the listeners about your experience, Brett, let's do
it. But if you need more time to prepare it, because I know
it's not easy at all to talk about, then we can give you more
time. No, I can get into it. I just want to tell
the viewers, of course, that I am going to stammer a little bit
because it is it is a very I guess, an intense story, you
know, and it does bring up some some month I guess just uh,
you know, memories and stuff. But yeah, I'm ready. Yeah,
it's no problem. Before you do begin, please do me a favorite breat
because of how intense it is, especially to relive. If you need to
stop, if you have to reset, by all means, please just let
me know and we'll take a little break so we'll do this in your own
good time. But having said that, yeah, please tell us about your
encounter. Now give us ever last detail that comes to mind. Okay,
Well, like I mentioned, I had decided to start over. I didn't
like the way my life I had gone through this life at this point,
and I was already in my forties and it was just this is ridiculous.
I'm not gonna, you know, beat anywhere in life like this. I've
got I've got I've got it straightened out. I'm gonna do something with my
life, and it's not going to be here in Vegas, I thought.
So I picked up everything I had left and including Murphy, and he had
no idea what was going on, of course, but we just hit the
road and we throw it early one morning, and well, yeah, it
was really early for me, is like nine am. Anyway, so we're
we're we traveled down the hallway. We're going probably it's kind of good.
Good eight nine hours and we were on our way to Washington State. And
I am not a big driving fan. I don't like, you know,
to drive for hours and hours an hour. So I'd already hit like one
or two of these rest stops before and but a lot of them were closed
and because there was like freeway work going on, you know, and long
about I don't know five or six it was. It was right before dusk.
It was right before dusk. And I saw one more press stop and
Merph Murphy had to get out and take a walk. I mean, he
starts getting out. He's very vocal about that kind of thing. So I
got I picked up on the hents and said, okay, so I saw
this rest stop and it's one of these rest stops for it's we're both like,
uh, truckers and and and just regular people. You pull off the
you pull off the side and you kind of go down this little gully and
uh, the first stop, the first thing you see off to your left
is like this RV parking area, and that's there was a good room for
about six or seven r these. There was one going out as we pulled
in, because I almost hit it, I remember that. And as I
pulled in there was maybe four or four cars at the rest stop. I
would think you could see that the place was being remodeled or or or are
you know, redone because the old the old bathroom stalls, the old bathroom
building was blocked off and it looked condemned or whatever, but they blocked it
off and they built these two new brands spanking new restroom buildings with a nice
big fluorescent light. But if you go back past that, the main parking
lot was still pretty much the original and the lighting wasn't as good. And
that's where I saw there was like a truck filled with stuff and a pickup
truck, and it was two guys were in it. I would say,
I don't want to be like stereotypical or anything, but I would say that
they were probably there were two guys, and one of them was very loud
and and and cursing and stuff up and on the phone. And the other
guy he was wandering off towards the restroom, so he I don't know.
I didn't really see him very well. So I pulled past them. They
didn't make me feel comfortable. He kind of like looked like kind of thuggy,
you know, And so I just went and went in, pulled past
that truck and pulled into a I saw this. There was a guy,
a single guy in a car, and then a family was pulling out in
in a sit in, and I pulled him right where they pulled what they
pulled out of and I sat there and my intention was, to be honest,
My intention was to relax and get high. But Murphy was like antsy
and he was ready to go for a walk, and I was like,
okay, fine, we'll do that first. So I'm pitching around in the
back seat because I've got all my belongings back here, and I'm pitching around
for the uh what do you call the leash? And and as I do
so, this band pulls up next to me like we're an SUV kind of
van, one of those hybrid things, and I put the clip on m
Murphy. He's not very good on the leash, I'll be honest. That's
one of his shortcomings. He's just not very good on a leash because he
likes to. I mean, I've always gone places, and like I said,
he's my esa dogs. He just stays by my side. Period.
He's very well behaved. But this car pulls up next to us, and
instantly he's got like he's I ancy, all of a sudden, and I
see one lady. She's kind of the wife. She's getting out. She's
getting out, and she's kind of halfway of paying attention to her phone and
getting out of the van. And I got my door open, and I
look up here and I smile and I could, you know, like a
nod of ahead greeting kind of a thing. And I can hear the husband
getting out and talking on the other side of the van. He was the
driver, and I don't know what he's doing, but he's talking to somebody
or something. And all of a sudden, this big kind of golden doodle
thing, I don't know what he is. He's a Golden Retriever mix and
just comes bounding at us, scares the living shit out of both me and
Murphy. And the guy's go chief, chief Chief, and he pulls back
on the he pulls back on the leaf, and I said, and he
says, I'm so sorry. I said, no, it's okay, and
he's just he loves dogs, he loves other dogs, but he's just not
used to being, you know, that forward with him. And so he
jumped into my arms basically, and I said, okay, it's like I
picked him up for a minute. And she she apologized for chief and it's
okay, it's all right, no problem, and he said, husband said
he just really has to go, and I said, no, I get
it. You know, that's why we were here to save thing. And
so I stand up and they've got like this little dog park or dog walking
trail wasn't really a park. The place of the whole place is surrounded by
woods, you know. I mean you can't see the freeway from you know,
the rest stop, which is great, but as you pass, I'm
trying to describe it to this way I can. But if you if like
I said, you are the area then where I was. And if you
go up the hill to exit, there's like the semi uh you know,
the eighteen wheeler parking and they've got one of those up there, and he's
he's I can hear his music that I can't see what he's doing or if
he's how many people are up there? So but in with as I look
past him, I can see the little dog park area, and there's this
little trail that has little lights, you know, the little landscaping lights and
stuff that you can go on the dog park. And I also noticed that
there's some like construction vehicles, smaller like there's a there's like a bulldozer and
a little small builders and those little small ones and a little uh steam roller
to flatten the earth and that kind of thing, and a couple of porta
potties. I guess they were, like I said, they've been doing work
all along the freeway there, So they've been clearing out a lot of the
thick forest or thick woods, the brush and you know that kind of stuff,
so they could make a nice little landscaped dog trail or walking trail that
you could go through. So Chief heads off, and we decided to give
him a little bit of space. You know, we don't want to.
I didn't want to like crowd Chief because Murphy. It made Murphy a little
bit nervous. But Murphy's a very social dog. Just like I said,
he Chief automatically just did not get off on the right foot, and so
I talked to the mom a little bit. He seems, you see,
seems really nice. And she's mentioned that she's a vet tech or something like
that, which was kind of cool. And you know, we were both
dog people. And so after after the big dog heads out, I put
Murphy back on the ground and we start heading into the heading into the woods.
And like I said, it's just this curby little path. It's really
cute the way they had a landscape. You head down a little gully and
then you go up a little hill, and it was cute. And so
we're, you know, we're walking around and he's sniffing every tree in the
whole forest, you know, and the sun's starting to go down. It's
starting to get a little gray, and but you know, you can still
see some light in the sky. And uh, as you go deeper into
this little walking trail, you can see where it gets where the walking trail
ends and the like the real woods begin where they hadn't done anymore, where
they had stopped mulling down the brush and things like that, which it gets
really thick. And then beyond that I could see some flashing lights. I
didn't know if there were car lights or whatever. But or but there was
some flashing red and amber lights and so we're just walking around and Murphy's like
enjoying every minute of it. He loves the woods, and all of a
sudden he starts getting antsy again. I was like, well, shit,
maybe you know, maybeish his head back. And before I even turn around,
all of a sudden, this the the brush just bursts open and this
there's Chief like right in my face. And I kind of stumbled back and
and the guy says, oh man, I'm so sorry. He he he
heard you say Murphy, and he just seemed he was right up, right
up, right up, but right up my butt. And that's okay,
it happen. You can believe me, I know. And as I'm petting
Chief, you know, he's almost as tall as Iron. And I'm petting
Chief and I've been down to pick up, you know, the leash for
Murphy, and the leaf is slack, and what the And I looked down
and Murphy's a collar is on the end of the leash, but Murphy's not
there, and just this rush of of sheer panic runs through me. I'm
like, oh my god, I can't lose Murphy in the woods. It's
ridiculous. And he was still saying something. That guy was still saying something
about Chief and said, I don't know, couldn't tell you what he said.
I just I started running off and just screaming Murphy at the top of
my lungs. And he knew immediately that. I was like, oh shit,
what the hell? So he said I'll go this way. I said,
okay, and I hit it off the other direction, so I had
deeper into the Immediately I'm into the woods. I'm off the trail and I'm
into the woods and it's it's like it's thicket and stickers and swampy and gross
and it smells like small fadder kind of thing, you know. And Uh,
I'm going crazy trying to find him, and and he does. He's
not a barker. He's not a vocal I mean, he gets vocal with
me, but he doesn't He's not like a he's not you're not going to
hear him. He's not a barker. Even when people come to the house,
he doesn't bark and the other dog's bark. He just sits there.
Uh. But so I'm beginning I'm really getting frustrated. And then I can
feel my voice cracking because I'm starting. I don't want to cry, you
know, I don't. I don't want to panic. I just I'm going
to find him. And I hear like the brushes in this clearing ahead,
you know, kind of rustle. So I thought, Okay, that's that's
where it. And as I start, as I clear the woods into this
big area that I do see is flashing. There's a flashing amber light and
a flashing red light, and there's a fence and there's a like a warning
sign about I would say twenty yards ahead there's it's like they've mowed down.
It's a big ditch and where they mowed down all the trees. And the
best thing I can I couldn't I can relate it to is like doing a
small aircraft runway or or what I thought it was when I think and now
I think of that kind of it. Now it might be a water reclamation
area. I don't know if anybody knows what that is. But in Vegas
there's a lot of flooding when every time we hit you know, every time
the rain comes, you'd think we were getting a meteor shower, not in
a rain shower, because everybody panics and we get these floods, these flash
floods. So the city may be huge, huge, uh water reclamation areas
where they just dig out these big, big ditches and tunnels under the roads
and stuff so the water has a place to go so it doesn't flood the
freeways and the casinos and stuff like that. And that's what it reminded me
of because but it was kind of a swampy because once in Vegas are just
desert, but you know, this was a kind of swampy looking. So
I clear the clear those woods and and I do see something crackle and moving
in the in the thickets ahead of me, and I said, okay,
that's there. There there is and I stepped slogged and my my, my
foot goes into this mud and oh man, you know, and it was
almost like they stirred up the smell. And I don't know if anybody's ever
had a dog that's been petrified before, I mean just totally terror, just
in total terror. But the urine that comes out of them at that point
has this pungent, very very pungent odor, and that's what I smelled immediately
when I stepped into this area. You know this is this this horrible.
The terror had a smell that would be the smell, and I thought,
oh my god, what's wrong. You know, he's I'm like, Martie,
come here, come everybody. And I see his little head. I
see him perk up, you know, he's but he's like he's either on
his side or he's rolling over or something. Because I can keep because he's
got that little light mark on his face. His beard is white and in
his little face is white. And that's and and then I can see this
little chain and then all of a sudden, I couldn't see it anymore.
It's like something blocked it, you know what I mean. And I stopped
for a minute, and I took a couple more big slog slog and I
could see fur, but it was not Murphy's fur. It was too too
much of it. It was so dark at that point, I was away
from the lights of the rest area, and all I could all the all
the lights I had were these two, this one amber and this one red
light farther down. And then I could also see by that point I could
see the the passing passing cars in the freeway, which was probably another football
football and a half distance away, so that was quite a ways a way.
But this I saw this, this hump, and that's the best way
I can describe it, as like a boost all of a sudden suddenly moved
in front of me. And and that's when I else something else. And
all I can tell you is it smelled rancid. I could. I could
almost liken it too. If you've ever been to a zoo and you've gone
into like maybe the monkey cages or the you know, the on a day
that right before they cleaned them up or something. It's just it's it's it's
that rancid animal kind of musk. And right as it hit in my nose,
this hump kind of rises up, and I'm thinking, oh shit,
that I and and this is the I almost felt like I got vertigo because
I'm looking at this flump rising up and I feel like I'm sinking. I
mean, that's how bigots was getting right in front of me. I thought,
my, oh my god, am I in quicksand or something? Because
I feel like I'm thinking, but no, it's not, I'm not.
It's this thing is getting taller and taller in front of me, and I
guess what everybody in the world, you know, would almost automatically think is
either bear, but it didn't look like a bear. And then the other
thing is, you know, bigfoot. My god, is it's a bigfoot.
And I saw the shoulders come up, and I saw the head kind
of start to come up, and I thought, oh my god, what
what is? And then all of a sudden, two ears stuck into the
sky and twitched, you know, and I heard Murphy's wine, and I
can see the murphy had gone into this prone position. He had gone to
this I give up, don't hurt me kind of a position. He's just
laying there in the brush, either paralyzed, hurt or stuck somehow, and
he's just he's not moving, and I'm thinking, oh my god. And
then as these ears perk up, I'm like a gas murphy like something like
that. And this head just whips around and it takes one step to the
side and it faces me, and I don't I couldn't tell you if it
was the amber and red light reflecting in its eyes, or if it had
light light light in its eyes, but I could see these two orbs that
were just really pissed, and it looked so angry and that I found it
or that I'd seen it or whatever, and it just stared me down.
And I know, you hear all these shows and stuff where you're like,
don't ever stare them in the don't ever stare a wild animal in the theay
in the eyes, because that's a challenge. So immediately kind of put my
arms down to my side and open because that's how I you know, like
I said, I've owned dog in my whole life, and that's what to
do. You don't want to show any kind of aggression. And I put
my arms down to my side and I kind of bowed my head a little
bit, but I wanted to continue to look at it. But I couldn't
get away from its eyes. I couldn't not look in its eyes. It
was the weirdest feeling. And that's when I remember the sound. And it
seemed to make the ground just kind of rumble. It was it was a
growl, but it was like so deep it made my chest it just kind
of kind of vibrate. Not my heart something necessarily though that was happening too,
It just made my whole body to kind of vibrate. And it was
this growl that was just like warning I mean, I recognize that it is
a warning growl when this wasn't necessarily I'm going to kill you now, graul,
but it was a warning. And this thing continued to rise up,
and by the time it was that its full height, it was no longer
slouching as it was facing me. I can't I don't know, maybe eight
nine feet tall. I mean, hopefully I'm not exaggerating, but I with
a years it definitely ate nine feet and it just like stared at me for
a moment, and then Murphy made another noise, and it kind of just
slowly, it slowly averted its glance back down to Murphy, and it looked
back at me again, and it raised its hand like it was gonna scoop
up or snatch or just swap the hell out of Murphy. It was rat
And when the hand raised up, you could see it clearly against the sky
and these claws, and it was looking at me, but it had it's
not it's it's it's hand out and I thought, you know, I like
to think it was Murphy's about the size of a snipers bar to this thing,
and I honestly thought that was it. I said, I'm going to
die tonight by this werewolf and it's going to kill me and and Murphy,
and it's going to eat us both. I can see the flesh under this,
under the under the big shaggy humps of hair. It was just it
was intense. It was it was either angry or it was it was it
was intense, or it was just. It was just as terrifying as you
could possibly eat, imagine. And then when the chair came up, I
thought that was the end and I went I screamed Murphy, and I in
my head, I gotta tell you, in my head, I had this
beautiful speech begging this thing not to kill my dog. But I think all
that came out was Murphy, No, no, no, no, Murphy,
no please, you know that kind of thing. And the thing turned
back at me again, and it just I thought, Okay, well now
his hand is still up and he's going to kill me. And I was
just like no, just screaming, and all of a sudden, its ears
kind of went back, and I thought it was a bit scared of mine.
No, but that was ridiculous. It wouldn't be scared of it.
And all of a sudden I looked back over my shoulder because it's not looking
at me anymore. It's looking behind me. And I can see people with
the flashlight and the truck light. The semi trip lights had come on up
but the rest up. There were at least two or three people, maybe
more coming down from the woods. And I looked back at this dog thing
and he looked at me and he made this and I don't know what.
I can only describe it as a horse like sounds. And also it was
like a snort. It was like like that, and it and it when
it did that, that's how close I was. When it did that,
I could feel the mists. I can feel moisture hit my face. And
it turned around abruptly and just jumped. It made this one leap and it
hit the like a like a like a rock or a colvert or a piece
of cement or something solid about you know, a little bit farther, and
then it jumped again back into the woods and it was gone. I mean
it was. I can't really tell you what direction it went or anything else,
because the second that it jumped the first time and it startled me.
And then when it made it second jump, just as he got airborne,
I jumped towards Murphy and stumbled and grobbled and went through the swampy stuff and
scooped him up. And I looked up and it was gone. It was
just totally gone. And at that time, the two people from the van
in chief were running up and they were followed by the two thugs. One
of them had a gun, a little little pistol. And the first person
to say anything, I was the one of the thugs. And they was
say They said something like, was that a bear? Was that a cougar?
And I just I stood there with Murphy, you know, I don't
know. And I looked at the I looked at the other couple, the
couple that had the chief's owner and chief was just barking like crazy. And
I looked at them, and the father seemed the chief's dad basically was just
still trying to get under chief under control. But the mother looked at me
and she just she just like shook her head and I like, don't say
anything, you know, And I didn't. I just followed that lead.
And she says, let me see him. I said, I didn't want
to let Murphy go, and she says, remember I'm a vet tech.
And I let her take a look, and we walked back up the hill
towards the restop area, and I could hear the two got the two thug
guys. They were still talking to me, Now, if that's a bear,
I'll kill it, and you other guy's like saying something stupid like,
you know, if that's a bear, you'd be dead, you know.
He says, it's that little gun. You guy's not going to do nothing
to it. And we come up and then I sit down in the car
and I smell like hell and I look like hell. And she brings a
towel over that she towled Murphy off, and she gives it to me,
and he says, you're gonna be okay, And I just kind of sat
there and looked at her, like is he okay? And she went,
yeah, he's he's he's got a few scratches, but it looks like these
are abrasions from like going through the scruff and in the woods. It doesn't
look it was he was attacked or anything. And she hands him back to
me and he's just quaking and that which is okay because at least it proved
that he was alive because he was so cold and so stiff that if he
hadn't been quaking, I would have thought he was dead. And she says,
keeps a towel around him. You know, he's probably pulling into shock.
Just kind of sit with him for a while and yeah, yeah,
yah. And they were really good about kind of hanging out with me for
a minute. But we didn't say nothing, mean, nobody said a word.
It sit and then all of a sudden, the big rig blue blows
its horn and the driver says, hey, man, I got the what
do you call him? I don't know. He's some word for the cops.
He's highly patrol or something that they're on their way. And that's all
it took. It was like the thugs were in their car and ready to
go, and I was like, I knew I had drugs in my car.
I was like, okay, well time to go. And the couple
was like okay, yeah, you know, we're all going to go.
And it was just that fast. I mean, the truck pulled out into
the freeway and he waves ways back at us and waves goodbye, and and
I look at her and I say thank you guys, and I say nice
meeting your chief, and uh, she says it was nice to meet Murphy.
Say it's a good thing. We were all dog people, and that's
that that word just kind of stuck in my head. Yeah, we're all
dog people. And uh, I just said at the beginning, I never
met a dog in my life that I couldn't win over. They all love
me, They've always all loved me, And uh, when I look back
on it, I remember thinking my brain was like trying to was was so
overpowered. I was just saying, how do I, how do I tame
this one? How do I it's going to kill me? How do I
how do I how do I you know? Get this one went over?
You know, and there was a look in its eyes. And I wouldn't
say it was evil because I don't. I don't believe that. I don't
animals aren't evil. And I'm not sure what its intentions were, if it
was really going to hurt me and Murphy, or if it simply wanted to
scare me. If so, mission accomplished, And nor do I think that
it was scared off by the oncoming people and chief and the lights and all
that. It just seemed frustrated and it like it had been interrupted and it
was just really pissed about being interrupted period or seeing even I don't know.
I can't tell you if it was a strategy on his part or just pure
instinct. But I will never forget. And when you say it sounds like
a Hollywood movie, I will never forget that hand, that claw coming up,
swooping up, mud splashing everywhere into the sky. And that is a
vision I'll always remember because it's almost that quintessential wolfman, you know, symbol
when you see the guy's hand, the wolf man's hand coming up before it
kills somebody. And it was, like I said, it was almost stereotypical.
I thought, there's no reason in the world he couldn't have killed Murphy.
He may not have gotten away with killing me in time before somebody else
showed up, but he definitely could have ended Murphy in a heartbeat. And
I yes, I screamed at it, but I don't think it was enough
to distract it from what it was doing. I think it it had wanted
to, it could have, and I don't think it had any intention of
killing us or hurting us. I think it wanted so let us know.
We interrupted it, don't do it again, and we won't so anyway,
everybody the van pulls out besides before I do, and she kind of gives
me a wave, and I can see Cheap in the back window. He's
totally unaffected. I mean, this dog was like the whole time, he
didn't see to even be phased by the whole thing. And I watched them
go away, and it just suddenly occurred me. Shit, I I didn't
get any of these people's names. I mean, who knows what would have
happened without them, and I didn't. I mean, I thanked them,
but I never even got their names. And we went up. Well,
actually I hung back for a minute just because I still thought I was gonna
after that. I was definitely wanting to get high, and as luck would
have it, I had I sat on my pipe and that was the end
of that, and so I I didn't, and I just like, you
know what, maybe that's for the best. By the time I got up
to my friend in Washington and I had decided I didn't. I won't say
that I never got high again after that, but it was definitely a sobering
moment. And I don't know what it did to me as far as my
feelings about dogs go. Murphy was he was my front always, but anytime
I saw it, especially up in Washington when I was only there for a
few weeks, especially after he started making funity for telling him the story and
stuff, I didn't want to be there. And Plus for some reason,
I think he was under the impression that I was going to bring a bunch
of drag biggest drugs updoing or something like that, and that's just wasn't going
to happen. But it just didn't work out, and we just turned around
and went home, and on our trip home, we took a whole other
freeway home. I didn't want to go anywhere near in that place. But
since then, I've I've obviously I've sobered up, and Murphy is okay and
we're doing well. We do have some nightmares, which is why I contacted
Vic. Initially, h I just said I started rescuing, and I don't
think it really hit me again. The memories didn't really start hitting I think
I'd almost walked it out for many years and I didn't really think about it
again. There were two things that start started it again. It was it
was the fact that I'd gotten a couple of aggressive dogs, and hearing those
growls would trigger it sometimes. But then on around Halloween, I thought,
I want to do something neat for my Facebook page around Halloween, I want,
you know, and I started seeing dog I saw dog men stories on
the internet, and I was like, is it you know, is this
a bigger deal than I think it is? I mean, is this is
this something that other people have have seen and gone? So, because I'll
be honest, I even say, you can say I wasn't high during this
whole thing, and I was not. I hadn't almost at least a day.
But I had thought, you know, after a few years especially,
I just kind of talked it up to maybe I dreamt it, maybe it
was a nightmare, maybe because they sure were that, and I mean I
continually have nightmares now. But and I started seeing these things on the internet,
and I thought, well, that'd be cool. I've you know,
I'll I'll do it like a a werewolf theme or something like that on my
on my page. And I shouldn't have done that because when I once,
I did it because I'm an artist and I like to make. I like
to make, you know, uh a little paintings and digital uh stuff,
digital paintings and AI stuff, And after I designed my my banner, I
was like, no, I don't I don't want this, and so I
actually took it down before Halloween. I just couldn't do it. In fact,
I think i'd sent you a picture, didn't I fixed you did?
Yeah, I thought so, And uh, I don't know. After I
talked with you, it felt better for a while. And then, like
I said, I lost Lulu and that was hommitizing, and I think it
all came back. I don't know if I remember going to be rid of
it. Sometimes, Brett, when you have a traumatic experience like that,
like when you love Lulu, especially how you wind up losing her, that
can trigger the problem to come right back. And you're almost back at square
one. But everything's gonna be okay. It's just gonna take time. I
mean, there's no magic wand as you know, to wave and make all
the pain go away. It's gonna take time, and it is a process.
But as time does tick by, this is just gonna get better and
better for you. You'll see, you'll see exactly what I mean. But
I've got some questions here for you. Bred if you're ready or if you
want to take some time to reset. No, I'm good, okay,
great, well Tracy, Tracy compio. She wants to know bred Are you
okay after this encounter some days? Most days? Yeah, Like I said,
this was in twenty sixteen, seventeen, something like twenty sixteen. Yeah,
I'm okay. It's it's shaky sometimes. But rescuing dog, rescuing the
foster dog, and taking care of the foster dogs has saved me. I
think in a lot of different ways. Having the responsibility of these these one
these wonderful lives has saved me more times than I can tell you. I
never got over the rift in my family, and of course I never got
back together with my wife. Though here's an interesting thing. I don't think
I even told them, Dick that my my ex wife didn't talk to me
for years, you know after that, not after the incident, but about
a year before the incident. But I hadn't talked her in ages, And
the only time she ever contacted me was to tell me that our husky that
we own had owned together was really sick and she didn't she just didn't have
the heart to put him down. Could I come over? And I was
the first time I'd seen her in ten years, and I took my husky.
I took Bain, my husky, down to the vet to have him
euthanized, and I got to say, you know, usually a youth in
Asia is just a horrible thing to have to go through with any animal.
With Bain, it was beautiful because when I first got to her house,
he didn't know me. He was like he had been so long that hit
his brain, and plus whatever was affecting him, whatever disease he had,
he was just almost in a coma by the time I picked him up,
took him to the vet, and we were laying and we were laying in
the car waiting for the vet to, oh, I'll allow us to come
in because they had an emergency or something and they only lewned one person in
at a time. It was like something clicked and suddenly he knew me,
and we went in and they reeledly meant on a journey, and he was
laying with me and I stayed with him the whole time, and he was
he was his old self. He was he was smiling and he was wagging
his tail. He still couldn't move because he was paralyzed, but his tail
was wagging and his and he had a smile on his face. And as
he as they put him under, he had these big, beautiful, bright
blue eyes and you know, he he never his his gaze never left mine.
And that was a beautiful thing because when he closed his eyes, it
was like he was saying goodbye, and that was a neat thing. And
then I've never seen her again, so whatever. But yeah, this is
the only time I ever fathered. But yes, I'm okay, thank Goodness
for that. You're going to have good days and bad days. Like I
said, it's a process, but you're working your way through. Yeah,
you will get there. It's just going to take time. Well, the
next question is from Darren, and Dearren wants to know where his question reads.
I like to know if the face looked like the one from an American
werewolf in one then if I recall that movie, it was that that the
werewolf in American wore wolves. Really he was big, he was he got
a thick face, but this was this was very angular, this was very
sharp. I don't know. Uh, there's an old movie called The Howling.
That's the only thing I could possibly com parachute. They're very very almost
cartoonishly long ears and uh, this very long pointed snout and uh, I
mean it it looked like a really ugly German shepherd. I can tell you.
I mean that's what it looked like, with blowing amber are red eyes
or whatever. I think it was just catching the light of the sistern thing.
But it looked like they were going all right. The next question is
from al Santa Riga, Hey, how you doing? His question is how
did Murphy get out of the collar without you seeing him? I'm sorry,
he wants to know. How did it get Murphy out of his collar without
you seeing him do it? Oh? He didn't. The collar was still
attached to the leash. Uh when I when when Keith hit me, I
dropped the I dropped the leash and I picked and I picked up the leash.
I felt it was like limp. And I looked down and the collar
was still attached to the leaf. I think Murphy had just shot out of
pure fear. I think he actually had just run away from Keith. I
don't think that. I think the dog man had anything to do with that,
because it was like several he was almost a whole, almost two football
fields away. From where I initially lost him, at least it seems to
me in that way. Probably not as much, but yeah, it was.
It was. Uh. I don't think the dog Man had anything to
do with Murphy getting out of his leash. Murphy, like I said,
he was not good on a leash, and he didn't like being on a
leash, So that was strictly Murphy's fault and my fault for letting him go.
Thankingness he found him. If you would have found him just a few
moments later, that the whole experience might have wound up in. Yeah,
how much different? Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I've read and seen
some dog Man encounters where they don't think twice about killing dogs, and that's
but I thank god I hadn't read those before because I was reallyvant panning.
But yeah, since then, I've read a couple of stories where they've killed
dogs and it just sends a shiver up my spine. But it could have
happened. Oh definitely, Yeah, me too. It's not going to give
you the warm and fuzzies thinking about that now. Again, Like I said,
I don't know why though, that that always kind of that always kind
of is kinda bug me. I think he could have just like I said,
it could have. He was like a twinkie to this guy and he
could have just popped him in his mouth and at him in the end of
it. But yes, it could have. Definitely got another question for you
from Samurai Sean, and Sean wants to know, how would you describe its
eyes Like I said that it almost felt like they were glowing, but they're
Like I said, there was this big yeah blood deposit area nearby that had
flashing amber and red lights and so when I look back and go, oh,
I had amber and red eyes like they were on fire. Yeah,
that's very dramatic to say, but it could have been the flashing of the
reflections of the of the lack lights behind me. But yeah, I would
say they were like fire. I mean they bore into me. Every time
I looked at its eyes, I didn't want to look away. And I
don't know, I don't want to say it was necessarily out of sheer terror,
but it was like, I don't want to look away from this thing.
I don't want to I felt like, I won't say hypnotized, I
just felt compelled. I wanted to look at this this state I want him
to keep an eye on this thing. I did not want to look away.
It was like they were so bright that you could see the pupils in
that night. Let's put it that way. I can see where the pupils
were. I can see what he was looking at. Like I said,
when he looked beyond me, I could tell immediately that he was no longer
looking at me. He didn't move his head, but he's his eyes to
shifted up and over me. So that would say just very very bright and
intense, very intense, like he was not a happy not a happy dog.
I'm sure he wasn't or it wasn't. The next question would be from
raider, and raider wants to know or he's saying thanks for being brave and
telling us. Did you get to see eye color which you just went over
there? Yeah? So actually I don't know. I mean I guess,
yeah. I mean I would have to say it was like a deep red
or orange amber. You know, that's all I remember because and I don't
know if that's the reflection of the other lights or not. Well, as
you know, that's a pretty typical color for their eyes, so that fits.
I've got another question for you from Manuel Garcia, and Manuel wants to
know did you know about dog men before you had that encounter. No,
I didn't know, And no, that's why I initially thought. My initial
thought that night was oh my god, I'm going to get killed by a
ware wolf. And I also thought, okay, as far as death goes,
that's pretty cool, you know. Uh. No, I had never
heard of a dog man before I saw Squatch. I'd heard of but I
thought I was gonna get killed by a were wolf. I could think of
a lot of ways that would be much better as far as going out of
this world than being killed by werewolf. So yeah, well yeah, of
course. But at least it's like, you know, I mean, it'd
be okay with me if I'm standing in the line in Heaven and Go and
the guy's like, hey, hey, how do you die? And you
guys says like, oh, you know, I choked. I choked on
a chicken sandwich. How about you? I said, I was killed by
a freaking were wolf. Man. No, I get it, I understand,
I do. That would be pretty cool to see in a context like
that. Definitely. Well, Darren's got a question for you. He wants
to know have you had any nightmares? Whats Yeah, Initially, after my
whole time in Washington, I was, I just I wasn't at home.
I wasn't. I mean, I loved Washington State. It's beautiful, but
I was in a trailer in the woods, which was again was like reminding
me of it every single day. And Murphy was just not well the whole
time we were up there, and the guy didn't make us feel any more
welcome. So yeah, every night one where I was up to in fact,
when I could sleep. You got to remember I was also on drugs,
which I purposely would not go to sleep, you know, because and
use the drugs to stay awake because I did not want to have nightmares.
I refused to go to sleep for many many days and it was not healthy.
And in the end that's why I kind of left there immediately. I
just never felt good there, and it wasn't I wasn't going to meet my
goals there obviously. So no, it sounds like you weren't going to.
I've got another question for you from Michigan meat Eater, and he wants to
know how far do you think the creature jumped each time when it was escaping
you know, it was like two jumps and it was gone. So I
would say, I don't know. I mean, because it was like leaping
uphill towards towards the woods, the wood the woods division in the freeway,
I would say, oh god, I could be totally exaggerating here, but
it could be like anywhere from fifteen to ten to fifteen feet each time it
jumped, because it was it was a good maybe more than that even because
yeah, no more than that, because it was like ten yards. I
would say about ten yards between us and the woodline, and it jumped twice
and it was gone. So yeah, I mean I maybe twenty feet.
That's a good jump. I've got another question for you from Stephen why shopped
And Steven wants to know does he remember if it had howk legs? Yes
it did. Yeah. The only reason I say yes it did so definitely
was when it jumped, I could see them. I didn't even pay attention
to the legs for the entire time. It was like right in front of
me because it was like it was just this mesh of darkness and then the
two eyes and the porcupine like hackles. I mean, every time the hackles
went up every time it got scared or not scared but angry or had a
reaction, These hackles would just kind of shoot up like a porcupines. But
yeah, it wasn't until he jumped up. And then, like I said,
he hit like a piece of cement or a rock the first time,
and he jumped off the solid rock and that's when he just took off it
just like he was gone in a heartbeat. Yeah, I definitely had hawk
lags. Those some pretty good jumps. But hey, these guys can jump
like schooling out of style, So I guess that's not that big of a
surprise. I've got another question for you from Michigan meat eater. He wants
to know did it look like the Van Helsing Werewolf at all? You know?
That's that's Do you remember that movie? Yeah, I guess, but
I remember when when I watched Van Helston. Yeah, I wasn't really scared.
I mean there was one one point where it did scare me, but
it looked I've never been afraid of dogs or werewolves in movies. I don't
care if you about killer dogs or killer werewolves because I'm a big dog person,
Like, I love those things and they've never scared me like this did.
I would say it did remind me a lot of that. But to
why ife recall again, just like the werewolf in one and it was a
lot that those those where well were a lot thicker. They were very you
know, like bulbous. This was very kind of he was he was massive,
but there was a lot of muscle, but it was like a very
sinuous muscle. He wasn't like he wasn't he wasn't at like a quarterback.
You know. He had this kind of a hump thing and I'll go on,
and his shoulders were huge, but no, he Yeah, I would
say, uh, Plus, this thing was a lot dirtier. So maybe
if he got washed up, he'd look like the he like looked like the
one in Van Nolting. Yeah, all right, I've got another question for
you from Rob Nack, and Rob wants to know, Well, I guess
it's more of a comment. So you think the dog man put two and
two together and realized that Murphy was your dog? I don't know, I
think so. Yeah. I mean, I I don't have any doubt that
he and he knows that we were together at that point, and I don't
it almost sounds like he was taking mercy on me and him. I don't
know if that's necessarily true. I don't know if he put two and two
together that way. But I did get a sense of intelligence. I mean,
there was definitely reason behind his eyes, and that reason I think it
was the scarest and once that, once that was accomplished, there was just
this flash of kind of like I said, he was done with it,
you know, and he was like when he made that snorting sound, he
just kind of kind of winced his eyes, kind of almost blinked his eyes
and was like, ah, through this, you know, and he was
gone. But yeah, I would say that he probably did make the connection
that Murphy and I were together, because the second he raised his hand,
it was just I just let out this god awful scream, which I guess
is what attracted everybody to us in the first place. But yeah, he
stopped immediately, he wore. He whirled around, like I said, he
worked. When he whirled around, I could feel the flex and mud off
of his mane, you know, hit me. So uh yeah, I
think he immediately made that assumption. I don't know if again, I could
be answered for morphizing, you know, because we have a tendency to do
that, but who knows how they think exactly. You can't even think for
people, so how you I can't. I can't. I can't. I
can't think of what Murphy's thinking, So I can't. I can't possibly think
of what this cryptied person is thinking exactly. Yeah, there's no way to
that's for sure. This next question is from Joshua Longe long E, and
that question is did it look more like a wolf or would you say a
dog? Oh, I having seen timberwolves and stuff like that, that the
timberwolves are much. I know they're fluffy there there, they're they're hers,
you know, they're they're They've got that real thick bird to keep him in
the winter, and staid he didn't have that kind I would say he was
like a big uh almost like a hyena. Uh is that right? Yeah?
With he was kindish, he was ugly. I want to say wolves
are beautiful. This guy was not a beautiful thing. But he was still
that's he can hear my dogs speaking. He was still gorgeous in his own
right. I think every kind of life form his beauty in his own right.
But it was just this he had, uh, center for much center
fur than a wolf. I could see his his skin through the hair.
That's why I could see his muscles tightening. Every time his muscles would tighten
and his hackles would go up. And I do remember that going very well.
Uh. So it was like a mangy dog almost. I would say
mangy dog because I've had dogs with Maine before and that's not a fun thing,
not a pretty side. Definitely. I've got another question for you from
Victoria maur Mar. I'm sorry. Her question is I missed where this encounter
happened. What rest stop were you at? In? What state? Slash
highway? I would love to tell you that I I've been I'd been driving
for about eight or nine hours. I would uh, anybody, if anybody
can help me with the highways between Las Vegas, Nevada and and uh and
you know Washington state. Uh, it wasn't the Pacific Coast Highway. I
know that because that's the one I took back. And but uh, I
think we just we had crossed the border into California. I know that,
So it was whatever. You know, you go out to count you go
westward California and then your beer up north because if you can go to couple
of different ways. You can go the Nevada Way, which is just straight
up Nevada, which is just a dull last drive. I mean, it's
just nothing but desert for nine hours. Or you can go the more scenic
but you know, more populated California. So that was was that California Freeway
and the rest stop, I would say, I was right right after you,
right almost by Sacramento in that area. Good. Nothing, Well,
I'm sorry any of the restops along that I'm okay. Many of the rest
stops along that way, like I said, they were all being redone.
So if anybody was out in that way during twenty sixteen, and if you
if you remember when they were redoing some of these rest stops, I could
I could point it out again if if I was, if I took that
drive again, definitely why I can't blame you for not going back the same
way. That's a no brainer right there. I've got more of a general
question here that I'm gonna try to address. It's from Christine one two one
Murphy, and Christine wants to know why do some people feel dread in the
woods and others don't. Well, No, one really knows. If these
guys are demonic in nature, then that would explain it why you feel the
dread. Maybe some are demonic in nature and other ones are actual flesh and
blood creatures. It's really hard to say. We don't know. All we
can do is actually felt. I never felt the demonics that. I just
thought it was a primal fear. I mean, and I think that is
something that every human has. I mean, when you greeted in the woods
where you know you may not be, you know, at the top of
the food chain, dogment or not. I think that is an instinct.
That's that's a that's a fear that stretches clear back to the caveman days.
Yeah, you're right, Yeah, that's our reptile brain. Yeah, it's
like, oh shit, I'm gonna get killed but eaten by something I don't
know, but I got to get out of here. That's right. I've
got another question for you from Pickasty, and that question is what did the
dog min smell? Like? Ah, I'm sorry, No, it's not
like I said. I had already picked up on Murphy's fear sent it was,
which is anybody who's ever had a dog that's been suddenly terrified by something
and pissed itself. That is that that is a very very distinctive and pungent
odor. But when I stepped forward to try and get to Murphy, and
that's when I first saw this massive home this because I guess it moved in
front of me. I don't know if it was aware of me there yet
or not, but it moved in front of me, and it and I
was facing itsass, and of course, but language, I'm sorry, that's
all right, Uh, but I was. I was facing it's it's it's
back, and all of a sudden, this this this musky. Like I
said it, it smelled like a cleaning day at the zoo, in the
eighth cage at the zoo, that's what that's what. It reminded me of
a real dirty primate cage at the zoo. These guys don't smell like Irish
spring soap. So yeah, you know, if you plus, if you
throw a little bit of wet dog smell in there, that's about what you
got. Disgusting primate and wet dogs. That sounds like a pretty typical description
for how they smell, so that fits. I've got another question for you
from Darren. He wants to know, did the body reminds you of a
kangaroo? You know, I when you say it that way, I guess
it could. But that's the last thing that was on my hand. And
all I could think of was werewolf and and and you know that's pretty much
it. Actually, I'd never heard of dog mans. I was like,
I've always been like a big you know, science fiction fan and stuff like
that, not really paranormalist sort of. It's the science fiction thing. And
the werewolf, I mean dog man period. That was that was That's what
it looked like to me. But yeah, you know, with the punch
legs, I guess, I mean they're not not as long haunched like like
the kangaroos, but when it jumped, it could have been. Yeah,
it was very kangaroo like, but it you know, kangaroos also balance and
jump with their powerful tail. This had a tail, I think, yeah
it did. It has had a kind of a shaggy tail, but it
not the kind of tale that would help it balance the jump. And you
know, so I would say, no, all right, I've got another
question for you from Zerith the Alchemist, and his question is have you had
any sort of possible encounters. Again. No, No, I Well,
to be honest with you, I I have pretty much stayed in the urban
light since then. I don't. I live in Las Vegas, and I
don't. Uh, I don't really go out on on on on long cracks
like that anymore. So No, I have not. I can understand why
I've got another one for you from Raider. And Raider wants to know what
was its reaction when he yelled, uh, it's spun around really quickly.
Uh. It it just shot its head back like it's like almost like a
how dare you? Moment? Or like you I don't know if it was
surprised or not, because that obviously I knew I was there already. But
when I screamed out at it, I went no, and I just kept
repeating no and Murphy and no, and it it looked at me like I
said, like I'm almost how dare you? What the hell you know?
And at the same time, it's kind of like looked at me like why
am I even looking at this guy? Why I should just feeling it Just
it was more of a look of it spun around and looked at me like
it was like wanting to get a reaction out of me. That's the best
thing I can say. When it spun around and looked at me, it
was like, ah, got you kind of a thing. You know what
else to say? That's what they do. Unfortunately, I've got a question
for you here from Chris Sirk, and this question is did you happen to
notice any glowing words during your You know, I don't think so. I
mean, like I said, I did see the flashing lights near the cistern,
the airfield, whatever the hell it was beyond the ridge. But so
there was a lot of lights and plus behind him he was actually silhouetted against
the uh distant freeway, So there was a lot of lights from the passing
cars and you know things like that that I none that I would think of
that were unusual or paranormal. If there were, I didn't notice them.
It's not all that common. But from time to time you will have an
eyewitness come forward and talk about their encounter and mention the fact that they did
see what looked to be orbs or sometimes it's clear that they did see orbs.
So yeah, if they were there, they were dround out by the
distant freeway, and then these flashing lights over to my left, so it's
not unprecedented. I've got another question for you from Dearren Brett and Dearreon wants
to know what was it doing when you came upon it again. I don't
know what it was doing. Oh, I don't know if it was crawling
towards Murphy, or if it had seen or smelled Murphy, or or if
it had anything to do with Murphy. I don't know. I just saw
this thump move from left to right because I was slowly moving towards Murphy,
and it blocked my vision of you. Because Murphy's got a white chest.
Even though he was all muddy and dirty, I could still see his white
chest and his little white muzzle. And then I couldn't see it, and
I thought maybe he had turned over or something like that, and I couldn't
see him anymore because the cup continued to see fur I would say it was
sniffing the ground. There's no way to do this for it. Yeah,
I'm sorry, or rooting for something and that that you know it was,
it was doing its thing. I guess that it was sounds like it was
definitely doing its thing. And there's no way to know this for sure,
Brett. But I bet you good money that what you saw at doing hovering
over Murphy the way it was was just done for your benefit. I mean,
if you wanted to haul Murphy off and have him for dinner, then
there wasn't any need for him to stop, right. Theory could have just
snatched him up and run off with him. Absolutely at any time whatsoever.
For that matter, he could have knocked my head off, if you want
to do it. Anytime I was close. I mean I was like within
seven feet of him. I mean, yeah, that's really close, way
too close for comfort. Yeah. I've got a common here from Rob Mack,
and Rob says it must have been terrifying as close to it as you
were spun around mud and water flowing on you. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
it was surreal. I mean that's the best way I can put it.
It was like it was not really happening. And I think my brain
went into kind of a lock because it was like, if you accept that
this is real, if you accept that there's a monster, you know,
eight feet in front of you, between you and your dog or whatever,
that's that's again that goes into that primal brain thing where it's like, I
can't like this, I can't do anything. I'm gonna die, And so
your brain just kind of kind of numbs you, you know, you just
yeah, all you can feel is the fear. You know, That's it.
But at the same time I could feel in my head, I could
still think, but my body wasn't necessarily reacting to it. It was just
that kind of terrif paralyzing hair terrifying. Yeah, I could think almost clearly
in my head, but I had no idea what to do, and I
was just I. I had basically resigned myself to the fact that I was
going to die. Where what was gonna kill me? But I wasn't gonna
let it kill Murphy. And that's the only thing I could keep thinking.
I was not gonna let it kill Murphy if I could stop it, But
it was gonna kill me. Good Man for protecting Murphy the way you did.
Good Man, he would have done the same for me if he wasn't
paralyzed. Oh sure, I believe it. I've got another one for you
from JB. He says you were able to discern its gender. I've said
he because it was huge. No, I didn't detect any you know,
general holds or anything like that. If behavior seemed male the way it would
snort and kind of thrup its leg and you know, you know how boy
dogs do, and they kind of get territorial. And maybe it's just my
experience with dogs over the years, but yeah, it definitely had mail dog
behavior. Yeah, it sounds like it did. I've got one for you
from Loose Connection, and their question is do you think they're running packs?
That's more of a question for me, and I can tell you in almost
every instance they're seen alone, but there have been very few. There have
been few credible eyewitnesses who've shared an experience with me where they're reported seeing more
than one together. So apparently they do run in groups and numbers sometime,
but or sometimes, I should say, but it clearly seems to be the
exception rather than the rule. Yeah, I don't know would they would they
live in communities somewhere or or or in like in the wolf pack with the
hunters go out by themselves or I don't know how that would work. But
yeah, it's kind a weird. See, that's the thing. When I'm
asked about that, I always tell people that wolves, wolf packs live in
numbers because they need the numbers to dispatch the game that they prey upon.
The strategize exactly it's required. I mean, they need numbers to be able
to run down elk, and they need the power that comes along with being
in numbers to dispatch bigger prey that they wouldn't be able to take down alone.
But with dog men by themselves, they can take down anything they're going
to come across, all whip to a bison, anything they encounter they can
take down and feed themselves on. So there is no requirement number one to
exist in numbers and number two if you think about their daily core requirements,
if you have more than one dog man and anyone near you for any length
of time, they're going to deplete the resources of any area over nine almost.
So it just would make sense that these guys would not make a habit
out of spending any time together. So, yeah, they don't. They
don't seem like a social species. Yeah, like man even like like gorillas
or anything like that. Well he might, you know, I don't see
him hanging out in family groups and stuff like that. No, not normally.
I've got another one for you from Daran. He wants to know,
did you get the sense that were did you get the sense that there were
more with it? God, I know I did not. I was worried
enough about the one in front of me. No, I didn't. I
did not. I Yeah, as I look back on it, I think,
as I kind of think about, well, maybe it had a Maybe
that's why I had approached Murphy like it did initially. It was just like
it didn't just kill him immediately. Maybe it was like had a puff somewhere
or something like that. But I know, I don't think so. I
don't. I as he was, he was foraging, he was doing his
thing, And No, I didn't get any frenson that there was another one's
nearby anyway. I mean, he could have had a mate, who knows,
but I don't think it was close by. There might have been one
nearby, but yeah, I doubt it. I think that would have been
dead if it had children, or if it had a mate nearby. I
think I would have been dead because it would have been all about protecting its
family. Well that's a possibility, but I highly doubt that because you're no
threat to it, especially with the two of them around, You're no feat
you're no threat at all to their offspring. So I think that wasn't a
big deal at all. Yeah. The only thing I go back through is
like their behavior with you know, if they say you even looking at their
cubs wrong, they're going to charge you. You know. But yeah,
you're probably right. Yeah, yeah, no doubt about that. I've got
a comment from Christine, and her comment is I believe dog men or dog
men, sasquatch, cryptids and other creatures are all involved with portals. That
she just might be right. I mean, there have been plenty of credible
eyewitnesses who come forward reported seeing a dog me in or a sasquatch step in
or step out of a portal. So I've heard that, and that that
brings me to one thing that when he leaked, you know, like I
said, he was gone in two leaps, and I don't know where the
hell he went. I mean, like I said, the woods were like
a good you know, ten to fifteen yards away at least, no more
than that. But anyway, but he was gone in a hurtbeat. So
who knows, you know, that could very well, that could very well
be. Who knows it's possible it really is? Well, I didn't though.
Well that's all right. I mean, you're doing good to know your
own name, so who can fault you for not looking around? I don't
blame you in the least. But I'll tell you what, Brett. It's
almost ninety minutes at the ninety minute mark, and I've got another episode of
dog Me and Encounters. It's about to drop tonight at ten thirty pm Eastern
time, so I think we'd probably better get ready to get out of here.
But before we do, I just want to thank you again so much
for coming on and sharing the details of that experience with this and of course
answering all the questions that the listeners had. I really appreciate it. It
was very cathartic, and thank you for encouraging me to do so. Oh
You're welcome, You are welcome. I'm just so glad it's been so helpful
to you. And like I told you before, please remember if I can
never help you in the future, if you ever need help again, just
let me know, and by all means I'll be there for you, because
yeah, I'm not going anywhere. You're good man. Thank you very much.
I appreciate it. Murphy says goodbye. To please give them a hug
for me I will. I appreciate that, and for everyone listening. If
you've had a dogman encounter that you need help with, or if you want
to come on the show and share your experience with the listeners, then all
you'd need to do is to go to dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report.
And if you do that, then of course I'll contact you and schedule
a film conversation with you, and that way we can have a good talk
about your experience and take it from there. But having said all that,
thanks again so much for listening to the show. Everyone. I really appreciate
you, and I appreciate you doing that, and of course have a great weekend.