1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,799 Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us for another live stream episode 2 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:08,919 of Dog Meeting Encounters. We've got a pretty intense one for you tonight. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,560 But before we get into the particulars of what this man and his dog unfortunately 4 00:00:15,039 --> 00:00:19,120 had to go through, we're going to bring him on here and basically introduce 5 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:22,359 you to them. Of course, in talking about our guest tonight, Brett. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,679 Brett, thanks so much for coming on. That's my pleasure. Thank 7 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:29,160 you for having me. I appreciate it. Well, you know, you're 8 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:32,039 welcome. Yeah, thanks so much for your time and for doing this. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,880 I know it's not easy to talk about. It's a pretty traumatic experience that 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,159 both you and Murphy had, but you know, like I said, that's 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,039 one of the biggest reasons why we appreciate you coming so much. But before 12 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:46,600 we get to the particulars of your encounter, can you please give us a 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:54,000 brief bio on yourself. Oh, I'm in like Dedja. I've lived in 14 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:59,240 Las Vegas, off and on most of my life. I I'm a big 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,719 dog person. I've had dogs my entire life, multiple dogs usually. I 16 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:07,359 went through a period of my life where I didn't have any and that was 17 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:10,920 really tough. On me. And that's when my little buddy. I was 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,359 babysitting a dog, and my little baby buddy, Murphy was born in my 19 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:23,519 closet while I was babysitting his mom and dad, and it was, you 20 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:25,319 know, for me, it was love at first sight. I can't tell 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:33,000 you what Murphy thought. And the lady that I was babysitting for actually let 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,959 me keep Murphy after the week period, of course, and he's been my 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:48,439 constant companion for the last eleven years now. And after this encounter, I 24 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,239 actually started fostering dogs. And now, like I said, I've got about 25 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:59,680 five deep right now. I've always just I try to do what I can 26 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:01,640 for the dogs in the world because I think somebody needs to kind of stick 27 00:02:01,719 --> 00:02:07,799 up on, especially the strays. You're a good man for doing that, 28 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:13,240 and of course for other reasons as well. Considering the fact that your encounter 29 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:16,479 with Murphy, with that dog me, it happened in twenty sixteen. How 30 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:23,719 old is he now? He's eleven? So he's eleven, okay, I 31 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:28,080 see is he doing okay? Because even for a smaller dog like him, 32 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,080 eleven's kind of getting up there. Well, you know what's he's pretty healthy 33 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:39,199 right now, he's a little beside himself. We just lost his mom a 34 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:45,240 couple of weeks ago, and yeah, that that really threw him for a 35 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,000 loop. Me too for that matter. But she was she was sixteen, 36 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:54,759 and she had a good life. So yeah, she lived with you, 37 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,360 she did. Yeah, she had a good life. You know. Yeah. 38 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,639 Actually, actually again, after this encounter happened, after I came back 39 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:08,680 to Las Vegas. After this, the owner of Lulu, who his mom, 40 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,319 actually had to put her up for adoption in a in a shelter. 41 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,319 I just happened to see her on Facebook, and I ran down to the 42 00:03:17,319 --> 00:03:21,759 shelter as fast as I could and adopted her. I couldn't unfortunately, I 43 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,280 was too late for her his father because he'd already been adopted. But I 44 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,560 grabbed Litely right away, and so she was with us and then on. 45 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,520 So I had her for eleven eleven years too. Sure, I'm sure those 46 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,639 were eleven great years. I've gotten adults about that. Yeah, it's great, 47 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,199 it's a great it's a great life. You know. Again, I'm 48 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,960 not big on people. Sometimes I kind of isolate myself from human beings. 49 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:53,439 But but yeah, I love my I love my dogs, I love my 50 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:59,240 animals. So that's that's a big part of part of who I am. 51 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,360 I can there's the why you say that, because yeah, I feel the 52 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:08,080 same way. I collect the whole set also I do. Yeah, yeah, 53 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,039 too many animals around here, but I've got five five dogs, a 54 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,039 cat, and a turtle and a little robot which can probably you're speaking in 55 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,279 the background, but well you already put a thumb on it tonight when we're 56 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:23,839 doing this, if you have to step away because of the five dogs you've 57 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,879 got in the house with you, then yeah, just let me know, 58 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,480 like I told you before, and I'll just do something like maybe I'll sing 59 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,639 to pass time while you tend to them, and then once you come back, 60 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:36,759 well there you go. Well, they're all being pretty streaty, characteristically 61 00:04:36,879 --> 00:04:42,240 nice right now, so it's good. Well that's scary. It makes you 62 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,439 wonder they might be plotting on you. Yeah, I know, I don't 63 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:50,160 don't know what they're thinking about now, but yes, and Murphy's right here 64 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:53,639 next to me. He's he's he's all cuddled up. He's ready to go. 65 00:04:55,639 --> 00:05:00,560 After Lulu's death because unfortunately it was you know, we've had some problems 66 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,319 with some of these animals before, some of them being aggressive and stuff. 67 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:09,399 He's been really shy, he he has. I think he's got flashbacks too, 68 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,199 to be honest with you, I mean, I know that's one of 69 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,600 the first reasons I contacted you was because I was getting these these nightmares. 70 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,040 And like I said, this happened or what like almost ten years ago. 71 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:29,639 Now, well I'm not quite ten years and I started I started getting these 72 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,759 nightmares again, and I think he does too. In essence, who has 73 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:38,000 been gone? He's been acting kind of running right, why come through it? 74 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:45,920 I can understand why you two would have nightmares because that encounter, Like 75 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:48,319 I said in the description for tonight's show, you can almost make a movie 76 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,839 out of that encounter. The qualities what happened to both you and especially what 77 00:05:54,959 --> 00:06:00,560 happened to poor Murphy. I mean, that is just perfect unfortunately for Hollywood 78 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:03,439 script for all. Yeah, it'd be perfect. It'd be like maybe fifteen 79 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,879 minutes long. But yeah, I don't know it would be longer than that. 80 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,480 But yeah, I hope his nightmares. I hope they stop soon and 81 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,480 he's not still reliving that experience because he had that one. I don't really 82 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:19,639 be good. Yeah, I don't know how dog's memories work, but I 83 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:26,040 don't know if he's actually remembering that or he's just he's just traumatized period with 84 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:30,759 the death of his mom and stuff like that. So, you know, 85 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,759 we always have a tendency to kind of answer memorphize dogs feelings and their actions 86 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:40,600 and things like that and kind of make them makes ourselves think that they're thinking 87 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,319 certain things, when who knows how they really think. But I know that 88 00:06:45,319 --> 00:06:47,000 he's got a lot of emotion, you know, and all my dogs do. 89 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:50,480 And that's one thing I think about his fostering dogs has done for me 90 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:55,560 over the years, is you can they're all individual and you can look into 91 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,680 their eyes and you can know what they're thinking. And I've never come across 92 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,720 a dog that I haven't been able to at least calm down. Like I 93 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,920 was telling you earlier, all the dogs I have now are considered unadoptable, 94 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,560 and I love them. I think they're wonderful dogs, but not a lot 95 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,560 of people might people don't really want them, which is a shame, but 96 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,560 that's the way it is. That really is a shame. But now I 97 00:07:23,639 --> 00:07:27,279 understand what you're saying. Unless the dog fits a certain type of profile. 98 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:31,759 Then I guess it's all too easy to consider that dog unadoptable. It really 99 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:34,480 is. It's a shame because you know, you want people to get rescue 100 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:38,199 dogs and stuff, but they expect these rescue dogs to be perfect, and 101 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,240 they're just not. They've already been traumatized, they've already have they already have 102 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:46,279 a history, they already have been through it, you know, and they've 103 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:49,720 got baggage, you know, just like people. You know. Oh, 104 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,279 of course, I mean if I was a dog, I'd be unadoptable, 105 00:07:54,399 --> 00:08:01,759 So that's improven. Can't fall him at all for that and for me while 106 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:05,839 he was wondering, if you take a look at the avatar, the bread 107 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:09,920 has up on the screen right now, you'll be able to see Murphy and 108 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:13,199 be able to see how adorable he is. Yeah, I can understand why 109 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,439 you did fall for him the moment you saw him. Well, yeah, 110 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:22,199 yeah, it's funny because he's named after Murphy's Law, and it's because she, 111 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:26,800 Lulu had him. He was the first one out and I heard her 112 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,639 scream it's like three o'clock in the morning, and she went shooting out of 113 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,960 my closet, which where she had the puppies at and she went shooting out 114 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,200 of my closet, dragging him by the umbilical cord behind her, like oh 115 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,240 wow, oh god. And so I put her back in the box and 116 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,200 then she kicked him out of the box. I was like, oh my 117 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:48,000 god, what's wrong with this puppies? She doesn't want him. But eventually 118 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:50,000 she took to him and he was fine. But she was the rug. 119 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,720 He was the only boy, and he was the only black one that everybody 120 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:00,720 else was ten and female. Well, thank goodness, took him back in. 121 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,559 Yeah, I was worried, but she did. She took him back 122 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,240 in pretty quick. She apparently she'd had several letters before before him and I 123 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:13,080 was and he was getting too old for it. He just didn't want to 124 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,080 do it anymore. I mean, you can't really blame her after that, 125 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,320 you know, No, you can't blame her. But like I said, 126 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,879 good she took him back. Yeah. Well in my constant companion, Well, 127 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:31,320 I can understand how that must be just your lucky man to have him 128 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,919 around. Definitely s a dog, you know, the emotional support dog. 129 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,480 He goes to wherever I go, and that's always been the case. Then 130 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:45,519 he was like, maybe three. I wouldn't say three or four something like 131 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,480 that. Yeah, it was just he was he was a sweet pup. 132 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,480 If he's always been a very serious dog. You know, it's kind of 133 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,440 weird to say, but he's not like one of these playful, little fluffy 134 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,279 pops. He just he's he's well, he's got a look at his eye. 135 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:07,039 That's it's he's always been very serious about life. Well, I can't 136 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:13,200 think of a better constant companion. Yeah, he's changed my life. The 137 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,279 dogs have changed my life. I was not a I haven't always been a 138 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,320 wonderful guy. I mean, I try to be as much as I can 139 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:24,240 be. But you know, I had, I had. I was back 140 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:28,799 then I was married or getting a divorce actually, and uh, you know 141 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:33,360 I had, I had. I had fallen into like a depression and drugs, 142 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,960 and uh, I had been pretty much uh what do you call the 143 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,519 tough that's called the tough love, my family called it. But I had 144 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:46,919 pretty much been exonerated from the family. I was no longer welcoming the family, 145 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:50,120 and my wife of course left me, and I'm going to sell the 146 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:56,360 house. And I pretty much had lost everything. I was in bad shape 147 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,080 and I still was on drugs, so that, you know, I had 148 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,080 nothing left here in Las Vegas, and so a friend of mine asked me 149 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:05,919 if I wanted to come stay with him. He'd just gotten a mobile home 150 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,519 up in Washington State, and I said, yeah, sure, why not. 151 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,120 You know, it sounds like a nice change of pace in the desert 152 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:22,559 anyway. So yeah, that's that's how it all started. But that didn't 153 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,840 work out because after I told him about the encounter, he just kind of 154 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,159 he really thought it was me was crazy, and he didn't feel comfortable with 155 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,240 me staying there, so I just left. Something I want to stress is 156 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,240 the fact that you were not high at the time of the encounter. Oh 157 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:43,240 my god, nout out I would have been. Yeah, to make sure 158 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:50,200 everyone listening understands that. But we've kind of danced around the topic enough. 159 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:56,799 If you're ready to tell the listeners about your experience, Brett, let's do 160 00:11:56,919 --> 00:11:58,159 it. But if you need more time to prepare it, because I know 161 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,519 it's not easy at all to talk about, then we can give you more 162 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,879 time. No, I can get into it. I just want to tell 163 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:09,240 the viewers, of course, that I am going to stammer a little bit 164 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:18,480 because it is it is a very I guess, an intense story, you 165 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:26,559 know, and it does bring up some some month I guess just uh, 166 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:33,759 you know, memories and stuff. But yeah, I'm ready. Yeah, 167 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:37,840 it's no problem. Before you do begin, please do me a favorite breat 168 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:41,519 because of how intense it is, especially to relive. If you need to 169 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,639 stop, if you have to reset, by all means, please just let 170 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,240 me know and we'll take a little break so we'll do this in your own 171 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:56,039 good time. But having said that, yeah, please tell us about your 172 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,360 encounter. Now give us ever last detail that comes to mind. Okay, 173 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,279 Well, like I mentioned, I had decided to start over. I didn't 174 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,879 like the way my life I had gone through this life at this point, 175 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,279 and I was already in my forties and it was just this is ridiculous. 176 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,039 I'm not gonna, you know, beat anywhere in life like this. I've 177 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,559 got I've got I've got it straightened out. I'm gonna do something with my 178 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,440 life, and it's not going to be here in Vegas, I thought. 179 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:28,960 So I picked up everything I had left and including Murphy, and he had 180 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,919 no idea what was going on, of course, but we just hit the 181 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,679 road and we throw it early one morning, and well, yeah, it 182 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,720 was really early for me, is like nine am. Anyway, so we're 183 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:45,840 we're we traveled down the hallway. We're going probably it's kind of good. 184 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:50,679 Good eight nine hours and we were on our way to Washington State. And 185 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:52,960 I am not a big driving fan. I don't like, you know, 186 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,759 to drive for hours and hours an hour. So I'd already hit like one 187 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:03,720 or two of these rest stops before and but a lot of them were closed 188 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,840 and because there was like freeway work going on, you know, and long 189 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:11,759 about I don't know five or six it was. It was right before dusk. 190 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:16,279 It was right before dusk. And I saw one more press stop and 191 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Merph Murphy had to get out and take a walk. I mean, he 192 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:24,039 starts getting out. He's very vocal about that kind of thing. So I 193 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,360 got I picked up on the hents and said, okay, so I saw 194 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:31,360 this rest stop and it's one of these rest stops for it's we're both like, 195 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:39,240 uh, truckers and and and just regular people. You pull off the 196 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,480 you pull off the side and you kind of go down this little gully and 197 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:46,480 uh, the first stop, the first thing you see off to your left 198 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:52,799 is like this RV parking area, and that's there was a good room for 199 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,240 about six or seven r these. There was one going out as we pulled 200 00:14:56,279 --> 00:15:01,360 in, because I almost hit it, I remember that. And as I 201 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:05,799 pulled in there was maybe four or four cars at the rest stop. I 202 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:09,759 would think you could see that the place was being remodeled or or or are 203 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,960 you know, redone because the old the old bathroom stalls, the old bathroom 204 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,399 building was blocked off and it looked condemned or whatever, but they blocked it 205 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,279 off and they built these two new brands spanking new restroom buildings with a nice 206 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:31,600 big fluorescent light. But if you go back past that, the main parking 207 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:37,480 lot was still pretty much the original and the lighting wasn't as good. And 208 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:45,840 that's where I saw there was like a truck filled with stuff and a pickup 209 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,440 truck, and it was two guys were in it. I would say, 210 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:52,320 I don't want to be like stereotypical or anything, but I would say that 211 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:58,000 they were probably there were two guys, and one of them was very loud 212 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,759 and and and cursing and stuff up and on the phone. And the other 213 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:04,440 guy he was wandering off towards the restroom, so he I don't know. 214 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:11,919 I didn't really see him very well. So I pulled past them. They 215 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:14,600 didn't make me feel comfortable. He kind of like looked like kind of thuggy, 216 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,039 you know, And so I just went and went in, pulled past 217 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:23,559 that truck and pulled into a I saw this. There was a guy, 218 00:16:23,639 --> 00:16:27,200 a single guy in a car, and then a family was pulling out in 219 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,039 in a sit in, and I pulled him right where they pulled what they 220 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:37,960 pulled out of and I sat there and my intention was, to be honest, 221 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:45,799 My intention was to relax and get high. But Murphy was like antsy 222 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:47,480 and he was ready to go for a walk, and I was like, 223 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:51,120 okay, fine, we'll do that first. So I'm pitching around in the 224 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,759 back seat because I've got all my belongings back here, and I'm pitching around 225 00:16:53,000 --> 00:17:02,399 for the uh what do you call the leash? And and as I do 226 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:07,200 so, this band pulls up next to me like we're an SUV kind of 227 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:11,839 van, one of those hybrid things, and I put the clip on m 228 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,039 Murphy. He's not very good on the leash, I'll be honest. That's 229 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:19,799 one of his shortcomings. He's just not very good on a leash because he 230 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,160 likes to. I mean, I've always gone places, and like I said, 231 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,799 he's my esa dogs. He just stays by my side. Period. 232 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:32,119 He's very well behaved. But this car pulls up next to us, and 233 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,359 instantly he's got like he's I ancy, all of a sudden, and I 234 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,519 see one lady. She's kind of the wife. She's getting out. She's 235 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:44,319 getting out, and she's kind of halfway of paying attention to her phone and 236 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,640 getting out of the van. And I got my door open, and I 237 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,640 look up here and I smile and I could, you know, like a 238 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,839 nod of ahead greeting kind of a thing. And I can hear the husband 239 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,400 getting out and talking on the other side of the van. He was the 240 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,839 driver, and I don't know what he's doing, but he's talking to somebody 241 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000 or something. And all of a sudden, this big kind of golden doodle 242 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:07,759 thing, I don't know what he is. He's a Golden Retriever mix and 243 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:14,079 just comes bounding at us, scares the living shit out of both me and 244 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,559 Murphy. And the guy's go chief, chief Chief, and he pulls back 245 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:18,680 on the he pulls back on the leaf, and I said, and he 246 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,599 says, I'm so sorry. I said, no, it's okay, and 247 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,119 he's just he loves dogs, he loves other dogs, but he's just not 248 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:29,240 used to being, you know, that forward with him. And so he 249 00:18:29,319 --> 00:18:32,279 jumped into my arms basically, and I said, okay, it's like I 250 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:36,400 picked him up for a minute. And she she apologized for chief and it's 251 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,279 okay, it's all right, no problem, and he said, husband said 252 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:42,160 he just really has to go, and I said, no, I get 253 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:48,000 it. You know, that's why we were here to save thing. And 254 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,000 so I stand up and they've got like this little dog park or dog walking 255 00:18:55,079 --> 00:19:00,359 trail wasn't really a park. The place of the whole place is surrounded by 256 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,799 woods, you know. I mean you can't see the freeway from you know, 257 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:11,680 the rest stop, which is great, but as you pass, I'm 258 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,960 trying to describe it to this way I can. But if you if like 259 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,480 I said, you are the area then where I was. And if you 260 00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:22,720 go up the hill to exit, there's like the semi uh you know, 261 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:26,039 the eighteen wheeler parking and they've got one of those up there, and he's 262 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,480 he's I can hear his music that I can't see what he's doing or if 263 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:34,079 he's how many people are up there? So but in with as I look 264 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,359 past him, I can see the little dog park area, and there's this 265 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,960 little trail that has little lights, you know, the little landscaping lights and 266 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,839 stuff that you can go on the dog park. And I also noticed that 267 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:49,799 there's some like construction vehicles, smaller like there's a there's like a bulldozer and 268 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:52,680 a little small builders and those little small ones and a little uh steam roller 269 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,400 to flatten the earth and that kind of thing, and a couple of porta 270 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,480 potties. I guess they were, like I said, they've been doing work 271 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:04,960 all along the freeway there, So they've been clearing out a lot of the 272 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,759 thick forest or thick woods, the brush and you know that kind of stuff, 273 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:14,519 so they could make a nice little landscaped dog trail or walking trail that 274 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:22,440 you could go through. So Chief heads off, and we decided to give 275 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,200 him a little bit of space. You know, we don't want to. 276 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,680 I didn't want to like crowd Chief because Murphy. It made Murphy a little 277 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,920 bit nervous. But Murphy's a very social dog. Just like I said, 278 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:40,039 he Chief automatically just did not get off on the right foot, and so 279 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,599 I talked to the mom a little bit. He seems, you see, 280 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,839 seems really nice. And she's mentioned that she's a vet tech or something like 281 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,559 that, which was kind of cool. And you know, we were both 282 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:59,480 dog people. And so after after the big dog heads out, I put 283 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:03,039 Murphy back on the ground and we start heading into the heading into the woods. 284 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,440 And like I said, it's just this curby little path. It's really 285 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,200 cute the way they had a landscape. You head down a little gully and 286 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,119 then you go up a little hill, and it was cute. And so 287 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:18,319 we're, you know, we're walking around and he's sniffing every tree in the 288 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:25,640 whole forest, you know, and the sun's starting to go down. It's 289 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,720 starting to get a little gray, and but you know, you can still 290 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:32,720 see some light in the sky. And uh, as you go deeper into 291 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:36,039 this little walking trail, you can see where it gets where the walking trail 292 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,079 ends and the like the real woods begin where they hadn't done anymore, where 293 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:44,200 they had stopped mulling down the brush and things like that, which it gets 294 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:48,759 really thick. And then beyond that I could see some flashing lights. I 295 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:52,519 didn't know if there were car lights or whatever. But or but there was 296 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:59,720 some flashing red and amber lights and so we're just walking around and Murphy's like 297 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:04,200 enjoying every minute of it. He loves the woods, and all of a 298 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,480 sudden he starts getting antsy again. I was like, well, shit, 299 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,920 maybe you know, maybeish his head back. And before I even turn around, 300 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,400 all of a sudden, this the the brush just bursts open and this 301 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:22,880 there's Chief like right in my face. And I kind of stumbled back and 302 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,400 and the guy says, oh man, I'm so sorry. He he he 303 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,920 heard you say Murphy, and he just seemed he was right up, right 304 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,519 up, right up, but right up my butt. And that's okay, 305 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:37,440 it happen. You can believe me, I know. And as I'm petting 306 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,559 Chief, you know, he's almost as tall as Iron. And I'm petting 307 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,359 Chief and I've been down to pick up, you know, the leash for 308 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:47,839 Murphy, and the leaf is slack, and what the And I looked down 309 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,200 and Murphy's a collar is on the end of the leash, but Murphy's not 310 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,759 there, and just this rush of of sheer panic runs through me. I'm 311 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:00,400 like, oh my god, I can't lose Murphy in the woods. It's 312 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:06,160 ridiculous. And he was still saying something. That guy was still saying something 313 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,920 about Chief and said, I don't know, couldn't tell you what he said. 314 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,720 I just I started running off and just screaming Murphy at the top of 315 00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:15,960 my lungs. And he knew immediately that. I was like, oh shit, 316 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:19,079 what the hell? So he said I'll go this way. I said, 317 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,759 okay, and I hit it off the other direction, so I had 318 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:26,799 deeper into the Immediately I'm into the woods. I'm off the trail and I'm 319 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:33,119 into the woods and it's it's like it's thicket and stickers and swampy and gross 320 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:40,920 and it smells like small fadder kind of thing, you know. And Uh, 321 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,599 I'm going crazy trying to find him, and and he does. He's 322 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,839 not a barker. He's not a vocal I mean, he gets vocal with 323 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,440 me, but he doesn't He's not like a he's not you're not going to 324 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:56,000 hear him. He's not a barker. Even when people come to the house, 325 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,680 he doesn't bark and the other dog's bark. He just sits there. 326 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:06,400 Uh. But so I'm beginning I'm really getting frustrated. And then I can 327 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,480 feel my voice cracking because I'm starting. I don't want to cry, you 328 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,559 know, I don't. I don't want to panic. I just I'm going 329 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:17,119 to find him. And I hear like the brushes in this clearing ahead, 330 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:21,200 you know, kind of rustle. So I thought, Okay, that's that's 331 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,640 where it. And as I start, as I clear the woods into this 332 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,519 big area that I do see is flashing. There's a flashing amber light and 333 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:30,519 a flashing red light, and there's a fence and there's a like a warning 334 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:37,680 sign about I would say twenty yards ahead there's it's like they've mowed down. 335 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,799 It's a big ditch and where they mowed down all the trees. And the 336 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:47,400 best thing I can I couldn't I can relate it to is like doing a 337 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,680 small aircraft runway or or what I thought it was when I think and now 338 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,519 I think of that kind of it. Now it might be a water reclamation 339 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,759 area. I don't know if anybody knows what that is. But in Vegas 340 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,480 there's a lot of flooding when every time we hit you know, every time 341 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,279 the rain comes, you'd think we were getting a meteor shower, not in 342 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:11,759 a rain shower, because everybody panics and we get these floods, these flash 343 00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:17,759 floods. So the city may be huge, huge, uh water reclamation areas 344 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:23,200 where they just dig out these big, big ditches and tunnels under the roads 345 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,319 and stuff so the water has a place to go so it doesn't flood the 346 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:30,039 freeways and the casinos and stuff like that. And that's what it reminded me 347 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,160 of because but it was kind of a swampy because once in Vegas are just 348 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,160 desert, but you know, this was a kind of swampy looking. So 349 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:45,039 I clear the clear those woods and and I do see something crackle and moving 350 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:47,440 in the in the thickets ahead of me, and I said, okay, 351 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:53,400 that's there. There there is and I stepped slogged and my my, my 352 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:59,640 foot goes into this mud and oh man, you know, and it was 353 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,079 almost like they stirred up the smell. And I don't know if anybody's ever 354 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,160 had a dog that's been petrified before, I mean just totally terror, just 355 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,519 in total terror. But the urine that comes out of them at that point 356 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:21,759 has this pungent, very very pungent odor, and that's what I smelled immediately 357 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:26,480 when I stepped into this area. You know this is this this horrible. 358 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:36,240 The terror had a smell that would be the smell, and I thought, 359 00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:38,680 oh my god, what's wrong. You know, he's I'm like, Martie, 360 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,599 come here, come everybody. And I see his little head. I 361 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,039 see him perk up, you know, he's but he's like he's either on 362 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:52,240 his side or he's rolling over or something. Because I can keep because he's 363 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,039 got that little light mark on his face. His beard is white and in 364 00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,240 his little face is white. And that's and and then I can see this 365 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,839 little chain and then all of a sudden, I couldn't see it anymore. 366 00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:06,720 It's like something blocked it, you know what I mean. And I stopped 367 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,400 for a minute, and I took a couple more big slog slog and I 368 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:18,720 could see fur, but it was not Murphy's fur. It was too too 369 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:23,279 much of it. It was so dark at that point, I was away 370 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,119 from the lights of the rest area, and all I could all the all 371 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,599 the lights I had were these two, this one amber and this one red 372 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,440 light farther down. And then I could also see by that point I could 373 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,680 see the the passing passing cars in the freeway, which was probably another football 374 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:48,880 football and a half distance away, so that was quite a ways a way. 375 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:52,920 But this I saw this, this hump, and that's the best way 376 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240 I can describe it, as like a boost all of a sudden suddenly moved 377 00:27:55,319 --> 00:28:02,000 in front of me. And and that's when I else something else. And 378 00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:15,319 all I can tell you is it smelled rancid. I could. I could 379 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,480 almost liken it too. If you've ever been to a zoo and you've gone 380 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:25,160 into like maybe the monkey cages or the you know, the on a day 381 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,119 that right before they cleaned them up or something. It's just it's it's it's 382 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:36,680 that rancid animal kind of musk. And right as it hit in my nose, 383 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,519 this hump kind of rises up, and I'm thinking, oh shit, 384 00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:48,519 that I and and this is the I almost felt like I got vertigo because 385 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:52,599 I'm looking at this flump rising up and I feel like I'm sinking. I 386 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,359 mean, that's how bigots was getting right in front of me. I thought, 387 00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,319 my, oh my god, am I in quicksand or something? Because 388 00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:00,319 I feel like I'm thinking, but no, it's not, I'm not. 389 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:07,119 It's this thing is getting taller and taller in front of me, and I 390 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,000 guess what everybody in the world, you know, would almost automatically think is 391 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:17,200 either bear, but it didn't look like a bear. And then the other 392 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,480 thing is, you know, bigfoot. My god, is it's a bigfoot. 393 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,640 And I saw the shoulders come up, and I saw the head kind 394 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:33,319 of start to come up, and I thought, oh my god, what 395 00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:37,960 what is? And then all of a sudden, two ears stuck into the 396 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:45,680 sky and twitched, you know, and I heard Murphy's wine, and I 397 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,920 can see the murphy had gone into this prone position. He had gone to 398 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,240 this I give up, don't hurt me kind of a position. He's just 399 00:29:52,359 --> 00:30:00,559 laying there in the brush, either paralyzed, hurt or stuck somehow, and 400 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,119 he's just he's not moving, and I'm thinking, oh my god. And 401 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:10,960 then as these ears perk up, I'm like a gas murphy like something like 402 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:18,440 that. And this head just whips around and it takes one step to the 403 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:25,839 side and it faces me, and I don't I couldn't tell you if it 404 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,960 was the amber and red light reflecting in its eyes, or if it had 405 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,599 light light light in its eyes, but I could see these two orbs that 406 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:45,759 were just really pissed, and it looked so angry and that I found it 407 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,000 or that I'd seen it or whatever, and it just stared me down. 408 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,640 And I know, you hear all these shows and stuff where you're like, 409 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,599 don't ever stare them in the don't ever stare a wild animal in the theay 410 00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,039 in the eyes, because that's a challenge. So immediately kind of put my 411 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,640 arms down to my side and open because that's how I you know, like 412 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,680 I said, I've owned dog in my whole life, and that's what to 413 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,799 do. You don't want to show any kind of aggression. And I put 414 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,480 my arms down to my side and I kind of bowed my head a little 415 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,839 bit, but I wanted to continue to look at it. But I couldn't 416 00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:21,079 get away from its eyes. I couldn't not look in its eyes. It 417 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:29,920 was the weirdest feeling. And that's when I remember the sound. And it 418 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:37,079 seemed to make the ground just kind of rumble. It was it was a 419 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:45,720 growl, but it was like so deep it made my chest it just kind 420 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,680 of kind of vibrate. Not my heart something necessarily though that was happening too, 421 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,160 It just made my whole body to kind of vibrate. And it was 422 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,160 this growl that was just like warning I mean, I recognize that it is 423 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,279 a warning growl when this wasn't necessarily I'm going to kill you now, graul, 424 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,720 but it was a warning. And this thing continued to rise up, 425 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:14,279 and by the time it was that its full height, it was no longer 426 00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:22,359 slouching as it was facing me. I can't I don't know, maybe eight 427 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,039 nine feet tall. I mean, hopefully I'm not exaggerating, but I with 428 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:35,400 a years it definitely ate nine feet and it just like stared at me for 429 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,839 a moment, and then Murphy made another noise, and it kind of just 430 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,880 slowly, it slowly averted its glance back down to Murphy, and it looked 431 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:49,920 back at me again, and it raised its hand like it was gonna scoop 432 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,880 up or snatch or just swap the hell out of Murphy. It was rat 433 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,480 And when the hand raised up, you could see it clearly against the sky 434 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:06,079 and these claws, and it was looking at me, but it had it's 435 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:12,839 not it's it's it's hand out and I thought, you know, I like 436 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,519 to think it was Murphy's about the size of a snipers bar to this thing, 437 00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:22,279 and I honestly thought that was it. I said, I'm going to 438 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:27,079 die tonight by this werewolf and it's going to kill me and and Murphy, 439 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:32,880 and it's going to eat us both. I can see the flesh under this, 440 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,640 under the under the big shaggy humps of hair. It was just it 441 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,839 was intense. It was it was either angry or it was it was it 442 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:49,640 was intense, or it was just. It was just as terrifying as you 443 00:33:49,680 --> 00:34:00,039 could possibly eat, imagine. And then when the chair came up, I 444 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:05,160 thought that was the end and I went I screamed Murphy, and I in 445 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,960 my head, I gotta tell you, in my head, I had this 446 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,039 beautiful speech begging this thing not to kill my dog. But I think all 447 00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:19,840 that came out was Murphy, No, no, no, no, Murphy, 448 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,440 no please, you know that kind of thing. And the thing turned 449 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:30,440 back at me again, and it just I thought, Okay, well now 450 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:37,880 his hand is still up and he's going to kill me. And I was 451 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,000 just like no, just screaming, and all of a sudden, its ears 452 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,519 kind of went back, and I thought it was a bit scared of mine. 453 00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:50,159 No, but that was ridiculous. It wouldn't be scared of it. 454 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,960 And all of a sudden I looked back over my shoulder because it's not looking 455 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,079 at me anymore. It's looking behind me. And I can see people with 456 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:04,280 the flashlight and the truck light. The semi trip lights had come on up 457 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,840 but the rest up. There were at least two or three people, maybe 458 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:14,039 more coming down from the woods. And I looked back at this dog thing 459 00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:19,920 and he looked at me and he made this and I don't know what. 460 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,320 I can only describe it as a horse like sounds. And also it was 461 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:29,400 like a snort. It was like like that, and it and it when 462 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,840 it did that, that's how close I was. When it did that, 463 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000 I could feel the mists. I can feel moisture hit my face. And 464 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:44,920 it turned around abruptly and just jumped. It made this one leap and it 465 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:47,639 hit the like a like a like a rock or a colvert or a piece 466 00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:52,599 of cement or something solid about you know, a little bit farther, and 467 00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:57,519 then it jumped again back into the woods and it was gone. I mean 468 00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:01,760 it was. I can't really tell you what direction it went or anything else, 469 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,719 because the second that it jumped the first time and it startled me. 470 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,599 And then when it made it second jump, just as he got airborne, 471 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,960 I jumped towards Murphy and stumbled and grobbled and went through the swampy stuff and 472 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:22,519 scooped him up. And I looked up and it was gone. It was 473 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:30,000 just totally gone. And at that time, the two people from the van 474 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:37,880 in chief were running up and they were followed by the two thugs. One 475 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:45,639 of them had a gun, a little little pistol. And the first person 476 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:51,960 to say anything, I was the one of the thugs. And they was 477 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,199 say They said something like, was that a bear? Was that a cougar? 478 00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:59,960 And I just I stood there with Murphy, you know, I don't 479 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,800 know. And I looked at the I looked at the other couple, the 480 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,559 couple that had the chief's owner and chief was just barking like crazy. And 481 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:15,199 I looked at them, and the father seemed the chief's dad basically was just 482 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,360 still trying to get under chief under control. But the mother looked at me 483 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,199 and she just she just like shook her head and I like, don't say 484 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:29,239 anything, you know, And I didn't. I just followed that lead. 485 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,519 And she says, let me see him. I said, I didn't want 486 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,639 to let Murphy go, and she says, remember I'm a vet tech. 487 00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,239 And I let her take a look, and we walked back up the hill 488 00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:45,840 towards the restop area, and I could hear the two got the two thug 489 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,400 guys. They were still talking to me, Now, if that's a bear, 490 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:52,719 I'll kill it, and you other guy's like saying something stupid like, 491 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,760 you know, if that's a bear, you'd be dead, you know. 492 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,320 He says, it's that little gun. You guy's not going to do nothing 493 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,159 to it. And we come up and then I sit down in the car 494 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,599 and I smell like hell and I look like hell. And she brings a 495 00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:12,159 towel over that she towled Murphy off, and she gives it to me, 496 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,000 and he says, you're gonna be okay, And I just kind of sat 497 00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:22,800 there and looked at her, like is he okay? And she went, 498 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,800 yeah, he's he's he's got a few scratches, but it looks like these 499 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,920 are abrasions from like going through the scruff and in the woods. It doesn't 500 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,920 look it was he was attacked or anything. And she hands him back to 501 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,840 me and he's just quaking and that which is okay because at least it proved 502 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:44,800 that he was alive because he was so cold and so stiff that if he 503 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,440 hadn't been quaking, I would have thought he was dead. And she says, 504 00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:51,840 keeps a towel around him. You know, he's probably pulling into shock. 505 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:53,599 Just kind of sit with him for a while and yeah, yeah, 506 00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:58,039 yah. And they were really good about kind of hanging out with me for 507 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,360 a minute. But we didn't say nothing, mean, nobody said a word. 508 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,800 It sit and then all of a sudden, the big rig blue blows 509 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:09,119 its horn and the driver says, hey, man, I got the what 510 00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:13,880 do you call him? I don't know. He's some word for the cops. 511 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,719 He's highly patrol or something that they're on their way. And that's all 512 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,519 it took. It was like the thugs were in their car and ready to 513 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:24,039 go, and I was like, I knew I had drugs in my car. 514 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:30,159 I was like, okay, well time to go. And the couple 515 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,639 was like okay, yeah, you know, we're all going to go. 516 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,719 And it was just that fast. I mean, the truck pulled out into 517 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,599 the freeway and he waves ways back at us and waves goodbye, and and 518 00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,920 I look at her and I say thank you guys, and I say nice 519 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:53,840 meeting your chief, and uh, she says it was nice to meet Murphy. 520 00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:59,960 Say it's a good thing. We were all dog people, and that's 521 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:01,440 that that word just kind of stuck in my head. Yeah, we're all 522 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:13,119 dog people. And uh, I just said at the beginning, I never 523 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:19,719 met a dog in my life that I couldn't win over. They all love 524 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:30,440 me, They've always all loved me, And uh, when I look back 525 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,519 on it, I remember thinking my brain was like trying to was was so 526 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,039 overpowered. I was just saying, how do I, how do I tame 527 00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:46,400 this one? How do I it's going to kill me? How do I 528 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:54,119 how do I how do I you know? Get this one went over? 529 00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:00,000 You know, and there was a look in its eyes. And I wouldn't 530 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:01,599 say it was evil because I don't. I don't believe that. I don't 531 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:09,840 animals aren't evil. And I'm not sure what its intentions were, if it 532 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,679 was really going to hurt me and Murphy, or if it simply wanted to 533 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:25,039 scare me. If so, mission accomplished, And nor do I think that 534 00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:30,400 it was scared off by the oncoming people and chief and the lights and all 535 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:37,320 that. It just seemed frustrated and it like it had been interrupted and it 536 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:45,880 was just really pissed about being interrupted period or seeing even I don't know. 537 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:58,159 I can't tell you if it was a strategy on his part or just pure 538 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:07,000 instinct. But I will never forget. And when you say it sounds like 539 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,840 a Hollywood movie, I will never forget that hand, that claw coming up, 540 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:21,880 swooping up, mud splashing everywhere into the sky. And that is a 541 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:31,079 vision I'll always remember because it's almost that quintessential wolfman, you know, symbol 542 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:37,320 when you see the guy's hand, the wolf man's hand coming up before it 543 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:45,360 kills somebody. And it was, like I said, it was almost stereotypical. 544 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,760 I thought, there's no reason in the world he couldn't have killed Murphy. 545 00:42:54,199 --> 00:43:00,440 He may not have gotten away with killing me in time before somebody else 546 00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:07,079 showed up, but he definitely could have ended Murphy in a heartbeat. And 547 00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:12,079 I yes, I screamed at it, but I don't think it was enough 548 00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:17,360 to distract it from what it was doing. I think it it had wanted 549 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,679 to, it could have, and I don't think it had any intention of 550 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:30,679 killing us or hurting us. I think it wanted so let us know. 551 00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:46,440 We interrupted it, don't do it again, and we won't so anyway, 552 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,119 everybody the van pulls out besides before I do, and she kind of gives 553 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,760 me a wave, and I can see Cheap in the back window. He's 554 00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:59,559 totally unaffected. I mean, this dog was like the whole time, he 555 00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:07,400 didn't see to even be phased by the whole thing. And I watched them 556 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,239 go away, and it just suddenly occurred me. Shit, I I didn't 557 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,599 get any of these people's names. I mean, who knows what would have 558 00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:17,800 happened without them, and I didn't. I mean, I thanked them, 559 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:30,480 but I never even got their names. And we went up. Well, 560 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:36,159 actually I hung back for a minute just because I still thought I was gonna 561 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,800 after that. I was definitely wanting to get high, and as luck would 562 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:50,239 have it, I had I sat on my pipe and that was the end 563 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,559 of that, and so I I didn't, and I just like, you 564 00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:58,920 know what, maybe that's for the best. By the time I got up 565 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:07,639 to my friend in Washington and I had decided I didn't. I won't say 566 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:09,440 that I never got high again after that, but it was definitely a sobering 567 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:20,079 moment. And I don't know what it did to me as far as my 568 00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:28,199 feelings about dogs go. Murphy was he was my front always, but anytime 569 00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:30,400 I saw it, especially up in Washington when I was only there for a 570 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:37,320 few weeks, especially after he started making funity for telling him the story and 571 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,960 stuff, I didn't want to be there. And Plus for some reason, 572 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,760 I think he was under the impression that I was going to bring a bunch 573 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,000 of drag biggest drugs updoing or something like that, and that's just wasn't going 574 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:53,719 to happen. But it just didn't work out, and we just turned around 575 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:59,639 and went home, and on our trip home, we took a whole other 576 00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:07,159 freeway home. I didn't want to go anywhere near in that place. But 577 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:14,599 since then, I've I've obviously I've sobered up, and Murphy is okay and 578 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:20,639 we're doing well. We do have some nightmares, which is why I contacted 579 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:30,000 Vic. Initially, h I just said I started rescuing, and I don't 580 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,039 think it really hit me again. The memories didn't really start hitting I think 581 00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:38,280 I'd almost walked it out for many years and I didn't really think about it 582 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,800 again. There were two things that start started it again. It was it 583 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,639 was the fact that I'd gotten a couple of aggressive dogs, and hearing those 584 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:54,840 growls would trigger it sometimes. But then on around Halloween, I thought, 585 00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,599 I want to do something neat for my Facebook page around Halloween, I want, 586 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,760 you know, and I started seeing dog I saw dog men stories on 587 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,239 the internet, and I was like, is it you know, is this 588 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,519 a bigger deal than I think it is? I mean, is this is 589 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:16,800 this something that other people have have seen and gone? So, because I'll 590 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:22,039 be honest, I even say, you can say I wasn't high during this 591 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,400 whole thing, and I was not. I hadn't almost at least a day. 592 00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:32,760 But I had thought, you know, after a few years especially, 593 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:39,599 I just kind of talked it up to maybe I dreamt it, maybe it 594 00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:44,079 was a nightmare, maybe because they sure were that, and I mean I 595 00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:51,679 continually have nightmares now. But and I started seeing these things on the internet, 596 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,559 and I thought, well, that'd be cool. I've you know, 597 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:58,559 I'll I'll do it like a a werewolf theme or something like that on my 598 00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,960 on my page. And I shouldn't have done that because when I once, 599 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,280 I did it because I'm an artist and I like to make. I like 600 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,000 to make, you know, uh a little paintings and digital uh stuff, 601 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:15,880 digital paintings and AI stuff, And after I designed my my banner, I 602 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,039 was like, no, I don't I don't want this, and so I 603 00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:24,920 actually took it down before Halloween. I just couldn't do it. In fact, 604 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,880 I think i'd sent you a picture, didn't I fixed you did? 605 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:39,719 Yeah, I thought so, And uh, I don't know. After I 606 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:45,239 talked with you, it felt better for a while. And then, like 607 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:50,599 I said, I lost Lulu and that was hommitizing, and I think it 608 00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:53,239 all came back. I don't know if I remember going to be rid of 609 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,239 it. Sometimes, Brett, when you have a traumatic experience like that, 610 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,880 like when you love Lulu, especially how you wind up losing her, that 611 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,960 can trigger the problem to come right back. And you're almost back at square 612 00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:14,239 one. But everything's gonna be okay. It's just gonna take time. I 613 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,719 mean, there's no magic wand as you know, to wave and make all 614 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,440 the pain go away. It's gonna take time, and it is a process. 615 00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:24,599 But as time does tick by, this is just gonna get better and 616 00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:29,480 better for you. You'll see, you'll see exactly what I mean. But 617 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,519 I've got some questions here for you. Bred if you're ready or if you 618 00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:37,800 want to take some time to reset. No, I'm good, okay, 619 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:44,280 great, well Tracy, Tracy compio. She wants to know bred Are you 620 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:53,239 okay after this encounter some days? Most days? Yeah, Like I said, 621 00:49:53,239 --> 00:50:00,079 this was in twenty sixteen, seventeen, something like twenty sixteen. Yeah, 622 00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:08,880 I'm okay. It's it's shaky sometimes. But rescuing dog, rescuing the 623 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,960 foster dog, and taking care of the foster dogs has saved me. I 624 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:19,559 think in a lot of different ways. Having the responsibility of these these one 625 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:29,280 these wonderful lives has saved me more times than I can tell you. I 626 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:37,119 never got over the rift in my family, and of course I never got 627 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,639 back together with my wife. Though here's an interesting thing. I don't think 628 00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:45,159 I even told them, Dick that my my ex wife didn't talk to me 629 00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:49,960 for years, you know after that, not after the incident, but about 630 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,639 a year before the incident. But I hadn't talked her in ages, And 631 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:59,639 the only time she ever contacted me was to tell me that our husky that 632 00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:04,119 we own had owned together was really sick and she didn't she just didn't have 633 00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,599 the heart to put him down. Could I come over? And I was 634 00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:13,920 the first time I'd seen her in ten years, and I took my husky. 635 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,360 I took Bain, my husky, down to the vet to have him 636 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,559 euthanized, and I got to say, you know, usually a youth in 637 00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:27,320 Asia is just a horrible thing to have to go through with any animal. 638 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:35,239 With Bain, it was beautiful because when I first got to her house, 639 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,079 he didn't know me. He was like he had been so long that hit 640 00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:43,519 his brain, and plus whatever was affecting him, whatever disease he had, 641 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,840 he was just almost in a coma by the time I picked him up, 642 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,239 took him to the vet, and we were laying and we were laying in 643 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,320 the car waiting for the vet to, oh, I'll allow us to come 644 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,559 in because they had an emergency or something and they only lewned one person in 645 00:51:55,599 --> 00:52:00,239 at a time. It was like something clicked and suddenly he knew me, 646 00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:07,440 and we went in and they reeledly meant on a journey, and he was 647 00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:09,320 laying with me and I stayed with him the whole time, and he was 648 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,280 he was his old self. He was he was smiling and he was wagging 649 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,719 his tail. He still couldn't move because he was paralyzed, but his tail 650 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:23,800 was wagging and his and he had a smile on his face. And as 651 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:30,239 he as they put him under, he had these big, beautiful, bright 652 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,480 blue eyes and you know, he he never his his gaze never left mine. 653 00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:38,440 And that was a beautiful thing because when he closed his eyes, it 654 00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:44,360 was like he was saying goodbye, and that was a neat thing. And 655 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,960 then I've never seen her again, so whatever. But yeah, this is 656 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,599 the only time I ever fathered. But yes, I'm okay, thank Goodness 657 00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:57,119 for that. You're going to have good days and bad days. Like I 658 00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:00,079 said, it's a process, but you're working your way through. Yeah, 659 00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:04,400 you will get there. It's just going to take time. Well, the 660 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,159 next question is from Darren, and Dearren wants to know where his question reads. 661 00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:12,239 I like to know if the face looked like the one from an American 662 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,480 werewolf in one then if I recall that movie, it was that that the 663 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,400 werewolf in American wore wolves. Really he was big, he was he got 664 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,199 a thick face, but this was this was very angular, this was very 665 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,039 sharp. I don't know. Uh, there's an old movie called The Howling. 666 00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:39,159 That's the only thing I could possibly com parachute. They're very very almost 667 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:50,119 cartoonishly long ears and uh, this very long pointed snout and uh, I 668 00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:54,239 mean it it looked like a really ugly German shepherd. I can tell you. 669 00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:00,719 I mean that's what it looked like, with blowing amber are red eyes 670 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:06,159 or whatever. I think it was just catching the light of the sistern thing. 671 00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:15,039 But it looked like they were going all right. The next question is 672 00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:20,559 from al Santa Riga, Hey, how you doing? His question is how 673 00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:23,400 did Murphy get out of the collar without you seeing him? I'm sorry, 674 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:29,760 he wants to know. How did it get Murphy out of his collar without 675 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,639 you seeing him do it? Oh? He didn't. The collar was still 676 00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:39,119 attached to the leash. Uh when I when when Keith hit me, I 677 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,679 dropped the I dropped the leash and I picked and I picked up the leash. 678 00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:49,039 I felt it was like limp. And I looked down and the collar 679 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,639 was still attached to the leaf. I think Murphy had just shot out of 680 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,400 pure fear. I think he actually had just run away from Keith. I 681 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,960 don't think that. I think the dog man had anything to do with that, 682 00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:06,360 because it was like several he was almost a whole, almost two football 683 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,880 fields away. From where I initially lost him, at least it seems to 684 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,760 me in that way. Probably not as much, but yeah, it was. 685 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,440 It was. Uh. I don't think the dog Man had anything to 686 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,960 do with Murphy getting out of his leash. Murphy, like I said, 687 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,159 he was not good on a leash, and he didn't like being on a 688 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,159 leash, So that was strictly Murphy's fault and my fault for letting him go. 689 00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:29,599 Thankingness he found him. If you would have found him just a few 690 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:34,719 moments later, that the whole experience might have wound up in. Yeah, 691 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,039 how much different? Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I've read and seen 692 00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:44,280 some dog Man encounters where they don't think twice about killing dogs, and that's 693 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,719 but I thank god I hadn't read those before because I was reallyvant panning. 694 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,480 But yeah, since then, I've read a couple of stories where they've killed 695 00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:59,480 dogs and it just sends a shiver up my spine. But it could have 696 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,280 happened. Oh definitely, Yeah, me too. It's not going to give 697 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,480 you the warm and fuzzies thinking about that now. Again, Like I said, 698 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,840 I don't know why though, that that always kind of that always kind 699 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,920 of is kinda bug me. I think he could have just like I said, 700 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,840 it could have. He was like a twinkie to this guy and he 701 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,880 could have just popped him in his mouth and at him in the end of 702 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:28,719 it. But yes, it could have. Definitely got another question for you 703 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,400 from Samurai Sean, and Sean wants to know, how would you describe its 704 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:40,880 eyes Like I said that it almost felt like they were glowing, but they're 705 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:46,920 Like I said, there was this big yeah blood deposit area nearby that had 706 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:53,519 flashing amber and red lights and so when I look back and go, oh, 707 00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:58,599 I had amber and red eyes like they were on fire. Yeah, 708 00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:04,280 that's very dramatic to say, but it could have been the flashing of the 709 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:10,039 reflections of the of the lack lights behind me. But yeah, I would 710 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:14,519 say they were like fire. I mean they bore into me. Every time 711 00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:19,719 I looked at its eyes, I didn't want to look away. And I 712 00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:22,599 don't know, I don't want to say it was necessarily out of sheer terror, 713 00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:27,679 but it was like, I don't want to look away from this thing. 714 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,960 I don't want to I felt like, I won't say hypnotized, I 715 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,119 just felt compelled. I wanted to look at this this state I want him 716 00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:37,639 to keep an eye on this thing. I did not want to look away. 717 00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:42,880 It was like they were so bright that you could see the pupils in 718 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,559 that night. Let's put it that way. I can see where the pupils 719 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,599 were. I can see what he was looking at. Like I said, 720 00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,760 when he looked beyond me, I could tell immediately that he was no longer 721 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,320 looking at me. He didn't move his head, but he's his eyes to 722 00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:00,719 shifted up and over me. So that would say just very very bright and 723 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,119 intense, very intense, like he was not a happy not a happy dog. 724 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,599 I'm sure he wasn't or it wasn't. The next question would be from 725 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,280 raider, and raider wants to know or he's saying thanks for being brave and 726 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,480 telling us. Did you get to see eye color which you just went over 727 00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:23,320 there? Yeah? So actually I don't know. I mean I guess, 728 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,280 yeah. I mean I would have to say it was like a deep red 729 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:34,280 or orange amber. You know, that's all I remember because and I don't 730 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,440 know if that's the reflection of the other lights or not. Well, as 731 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,159 you know, that's a pretty typical color for their eyes, so that fits. 732 00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:45,960 I've got another question for you from Manuel Garcia, and Manuel wants to 733 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,480 know did you know about dog men before you had that encounter. No, 734 00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:55,400 I didn't know, And no, that's why I initially thought. My initial 735 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,760 thought that night was oh my god, I'm going to get killed by a 736 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,480 ware wolf. And I also thought, okay, as far as death goes, 737 00:59:04,519 --> 00:59:08,679 that's pretty cool, you know. Uh. No, I had never 738 00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:14,960 heard of a dog man before I saw Squatch. I'd heard of but I 739 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,159 thought I was gonna get killed by a were wolf. I could think of 740 00:59:19,239 --> 00:59:22,559 a lot of ways that would be much better as far as going out of 741 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,880 this world than being killed by werewolf. So yeah, well yeah, of 742 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,440 course. But at least it's like, you know, I mean, it'd 743 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,599 be okay with me if I'm standing in the line in Heaven and Go and 744 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:35,440 the guy's like, hey, hey, how do you die? And you 745 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,559 guys says like, oh, you know, I choked. I choked on 746 00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:38,519 a chicken sandwich. How about you? I said, I was killed by 747 00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:43,840 a freaking were wolf. Man. No, I get it, I understand, 748 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:46,800 I do. That would be pretty cool to see in a context like 749 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:52,239 that. Definitely. Well, Darren's got a question for you. He wants 750 00:59:52,280 --> 01:00:01,639 to know have you had any nightmares? Whats Yeah, Initially, after my 751 01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:06,920 whole time in Washington, I was, I just I wasn't at home. 752 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,639 I wasn't. I mean, I loved Washington State. It's beautiful, but 753 01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:14,800 I was in a trailer in the woods, which was again was like reminding 754 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:20,400 me of it every single day. And Murphy was just not well the whole 755 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,480 time we were up there, and the guy didn't make us feel any more 756 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:29,639 welcome. So yeah, every night one where I was up to in fact, 757 01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:31,599 when I could sleep. You got to remember I was also on drugs, 758 01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:37,280 which I purposely would not go to sleep, you know, because and 759 01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:42,599 use the drugs to stay awake because I did not want to have nightmares. 760 01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:46,320 I refused to go to sleep for many many days and it was not healthy. 761 01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:52,159 And in the end that's why I kind of left there immediately. I 762 01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:54,480 just never felt good there, and it wasn't I wasn't going to meet my 763 01:00:54,519 --> 01:01:01,159 goals there obviously. So no, it sounds like you weren't going to. 764 01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:06,800 I've got another question for you from Michigan meat Eater, and he wants to 765 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,039 know how far do you think the creature jumped each time when it was escaping 766 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,000 you know, it was like two jumps and it was gone. So I 767 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,440 would say, I don't know. I mean, because it was like leaping 768 01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:25,239 uphill towards towards the woods, the wood the woods division in the freeway, 769 01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:31,159 I would say, oh god, I could be totally exaggerating here, but 770 01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:37,000 it could be like anywhere from fifteen to ten to fifteen feet each time it 771 01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:44,880 jumped, because it was it was a good maybe more than that even because 772 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,079 yeah, no more than that, because it was like ten yards. I 773 01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:51,599 would say about ten yards between us and the woodline, and it jumped twice 774 01:01:51,880 --> 01:02:01,400 and it was gone. So yeah, I mean I maybe twenty feet. 775 01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:08,679 That's a good jump. I've got another question for you from Stephen why shopped 776 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:15,320 And Steven wants to know does he remember if it had howk legs? Yes 777 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:22,800 it did. Yeah. The only reason I say yes it did so definitely 778 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,880 was when it jumped, I could see them. I didn't even pay attention 779 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,440 to the legs for the entire time. It was like right in front of 780 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,880 me because it was like it was just this mesh of darkness and then the 781 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,559 two eyes and the porcupine like hackles. I mean, every time the hackles 782 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:44,199 went up every time it got scared or not scared but angry or had a 783 01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:47,280 reaction, These hackles would just kind of shoot up like a porcupines. But 784 01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:51,760 yeah, it wasn't until he jumped up. And then, like I said, 785 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,840 he hit like a piece of cement or a rock the first time, 786 01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:59,840 and he jumped off the solid rock and that's when he just took off it 787 01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:07,400 just like he was gone in a heartbeat. Yeah, I definitely had hawk 788 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:12,719 lags. Those some pretty good jumps. But hey, these guys can jump 789 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,039 like schooling out of style, So I guess that's not that big of a 790 01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:20,559 surprise. I've got another question for you from Michigan meat eater. He wants 791 01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:27,440 to know did it look like the Van Helsing Werewolf at all? You know? 792 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,599 That's that's Do you remember that movie? Yeah, I guess, but 793 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,840 I remember when when I watched Van Helston. Yeah, I wasn't really scared. 794 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,880 I mean there was one one point where it did scare me, but 795 01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:44,719 it looked I've never been afraid of dogs or werewolves in movies. I don't 796 01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:49,360 care if you about killer dogs or killer werewolves because I'm a big dog person, 797 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,320 Like, I love those things and they've never scared me like this did. 798 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,719 I would say it did remind me a lot of that. But to 799 01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:00,800 why ife recall again, just like the werewolf in one and it was a 800 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:06,559 lot that those those where well were a lot thicker. They were very you 801 01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:14,119 know, like bulbous. This was very kind of he was he was massive, 802 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,000 but there was a lot of muscle, but it was like a very 803 01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:23,639 sinuous muscle. He wasn't like he wasn't he wasn't at like a quarterback. 804 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,199 You know. He had this kind of a hump thing and I'll go on, 805 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,079 and his shoulders were huge, but no, he Yeah, I would 806 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,639 say, uh, Plus, this thing was a lot dirtier. So maybe 807 01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:39,119 if he got washed up, he'd look like the he like looked like the 808 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:45,039 one in Van Nolting. Yeah, all right, I've got another question for 809 01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:48,519 you from Rob Nack, and Rob wants to know, Well, I guess 810 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,320 it's more of a comment. So you think the dog man put two and 811 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:58,119 two together and realized that Murphy was your dog? I don't know, I 812 01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:00,840 think so. Yeah. I mean, I I don't have any doubt that 813 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,920 he and he knows that we were together at that point, and I don't 814 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,960 it almost sounds like he was taking mercy on me and him. I don't 815 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,679 know if that's necessarily true. I don't know if he put two and two 816 01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:16,679 together that way. But I did get a sense of intelligence. I mean, 817 01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:23,840 there was definitely reason behind his eyes, and that reason I think it 818 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,519 was the scarest and once that, once that was accomplished, there was just 819 01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:31,159 this flash of kind of like I said, he was done with it, 820 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,280 you know, and he was like when he made that snorting sound, he 821 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,400 just kind of kind of winced his eyes, kind of almost blinked his eyes 822 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,559 and was like, ah, through this, you know, and he was 823 01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:46,119 gone. But yeah, I would say that he probably did make the connection 824 01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:49,639 that Murphy and I were together, because the second he raised his hand, 825 01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:54,239 it was just I just let out this god awful scream, which I guess 826 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:59,679 is what attracted everybody to us in the first place. But yeah, he 827 01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:02,440 stopped immediately, he wore. He whirled around, like I said, he 828 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,159 worked. When he whirled around, I could feel the flex and mud off 829 01:06:06,159 --> 01:06:12,000 of his mane, you know, hit me. So uh yeah, I 830 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,400 think he immediately made that assumption. I don't know if again, I could 831 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,880 be answered for morphizing, you know, because we have a tendency to do 832 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:23,840 that, but who knows how they think exactly. You can't even think for 833 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,400 people, so how you I can't. I can't. I can't. I 834 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,199 can't think of what Murphy's thinking, So I can't. I can't possibly think 835 01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:33,960 of what this cryptied person is thinking exactly. Yeah, there's no way to 836 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:42,159 that's for sure. This next question is from Joshua Longe long E, and 837 01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:45,159 that question is did it look more like a wolf or would you say a 838 01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:57,800 dog? Oh, I having seen timberwolves and stuff like that, that the 839 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,079 timberwolves are much. I know they're fluffy there there, they're they're hers, 840 01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:04,760 you know, they're they're They've got that real thick bird to keep him in 841 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,199 the winter, and staid he didn't have that kind I would say he was 842 01:07:08,239 --> 01:07:15,360 like a big uh almost like a hyena. Uh is that right? Yeah? 843 01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:20,000 With he was kindish, he was ugly. I want to say wolves 844 01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:26,119 are beautiful. This guy was not a beautiful thing. But he was still 845 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,960 that's he can hear my dogs speaking. He was still gorgeous in his own 846 01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:34,599 right. I think every kind of life form his beauty in his own right. 847 01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:40,000 But it was just this he had, uh, center for much center 848 01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:45,159 fur than a wolf. I could see his his skin through the hair. 849 01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:48,159 That's why I could see his muscles tightening. Every time his muscles would tighten 850 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,800 and his hackles would go up. And I do remember that going very well. 851 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,920 Uh. So it was like a mangy dog almost. I would say 852 01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:01,840 mangy dog because I've had dogs with Maine before and that's not a fun thing, 853 01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:08,679 not a pretty side. Definitely. I've got another question for you from 854 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:15,280 Victoria maur Mar. I'm sorry. Her question is I missed where this encounter 855 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,720 happened. What rest stop were you at? In? What state? Slash 856 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:23,119 highway? I would love to tell you that I I've been I'd been driving 857 01:08:23,119 --> 01:08:30,279 for about eight or nine hours. I would uh, anybody, if anybody 858 01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:34,880 can help me with the highways between Las Vegas, Nevada and and uh and 859 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:40,760 you know Washington state. Uh, it wasn't the Pacific Coast Highway. I 860 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:46,560 know that because that's the one I took back. And but uh, I 861 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,079 think we just we had crossed the border into California. I know that, 862 01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:55,119 So it was whatever. You know, you go out to count you go 863 01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:00,199 westward California and then your beer up north because if you can go to couple 864 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:03,399 of different ways. You can go the Nevada Way, which is just straight 865 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,800 up Nevada, which is just a dull last drive. I mean, it's 866 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:11,199 just nothing but desert for nine hours. Or you can go the more scenic 867 01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:20,439 but you know, more populated California. So that was was that California Freeway 868 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:29,000 and the rest stop, I would say, I was right right after you, 869 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:39,600 right almost by Sacramento in that area. Good. Nothing, Well, 870 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,039 I'm sorry any of the restops along that I'm okay. Many of the rest 871 01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:44,960 stops along that way, like I said, they were all being redone. 872 01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:48,119 So if anybody was out in that way during twenty sixteen, and if you 873 01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:51,760 if you remember when they were redoing some of these rest stops, I could 874 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,680 I could point it out again if if I was, if I took that 875 01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,920 drive again, definitely why I can't blame you for not going back the same 876 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,600 way. That's a no brainer right there. I've got more of a general 877 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:13,119 question here that I'm gonna try to address. It's from Christine one two one 878 01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:16,880 Murphy, and Christine wants to know why do some people feel dread in the 879 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,640 woods and others don't. Well, No, one really knows. If these 880 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:26,479 guys are demonic in nature, then that would explain it why you feel the 881 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,760 dread. Maybe some are demonic in nature and other ones are actual flesh and 882 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,880 blood creatures. It's really hard to say. We don't know. All we 883 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:41,159 can do is actually felt. I never felt the demonics that. I just 884 01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:45,239 thought it was a primal fear. I mean, and I think that is 885 01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:48,880 something that every human has. I mean, when you greeted in the woods 886 01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:53,680 where you know you may not be, you know, at the top of 887 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:58,399 the food chain, dogment or not. I think that is an instinct. 888 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,359 That's that's a that's a fear that stretches clear back to the caveman days. 889 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:09,039 Yeah, you're right, Yeah, that's our reptile brain. Yeah, it's 890 01:11:09,119 --> 01:11:11,800 like, oh shit, I'm gonna get killed but eaten by something I don't 891 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,399 know, but I got to get out of here. That's right. I've 892 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,159 got another question for you from Pickasty, and that question is what did the 893 01:11:20,199 --> 01:11:26,760 dog min smell? Like? Ah, I'm sorry, No, it's not 894 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:32,640 like I said. I had already picked up on Murphy's fear sent it was, 895 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,600 which is anybody who's ever had a dog that's been suddenly terrified by something 896 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:43,399 and pissed itself. That is that that is a very very distinctive and pungent 897 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:49,000 odor. But when I stepped forward to try and get to Murphy, and 898 01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:56,159 that's when I first saw this massive home this because I guess it moved in 899 01:11:56,199 --> 01:11:58,960 front of me. I don't know if it was aware of me there yet 900 01:11:59,079 --> 01:12:02,239 or not, but it moved in front of me, and it and I 901 01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:09,640 was facing itsass, and of course, but language, I'm sorry, that's 902 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,840 all right, Uh, but I was. I was facing it's it's it's 903 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:21,439 back, and all of a sudden, this this this musky. Like I 904 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,920 said it, it smelled like a cleaning day at the zoo, in the 905 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,079 eighth cage at the zoo, that's what that's what. It reminded me of 906 01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:36,800 a real dirty primate cage at the zoo. These guys don't smell like Irish 907 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:43,000 spring soap. So yeah, you know, if you plus, if you 908 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,520 throw a little bit of wet dog smell in there, that's about what you 909 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:51,720 got. Disgusting primate and wet dogs. That sounds like a pretty typical description 910 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:57,479 for how they smell, so that fits. I've got another question for you 911 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,680 from Darren. He wants to know, did the body reminds you of a 912 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:06,119 kangaroo? You know, I when you say it that way, I guess 913 01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:09,840 it could. But that's the last thing that was on my hand. And 914 01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:14,720 all I could think of was werewolf and and and you know that's pretty much 915 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,199 it. Actually, I'd never heard of dog mans. I was like, 916 01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:23,439 I've always been like a big you know, science fiction fan and stuff like 917 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,680 that, not really paranormalist sort of. It's the science fiction thing. And 918 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:31,199 the werewolf, I mean dog man period. That was that was That's what 919 01:13:31,239 --> 01:13:33,720 it looked like to me. But yeah, you know, with the punch 920 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,840 legs, I guess, I mean they're not not as long haunched like like 921 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:43,199 the kangaroos, but when it jumped, it could have been. Yeah, 922 01:13:43,239 --> 01:13:46,199 it was very kangaroo like, but it you know, kangaroos also balance and 923 01:13:46,319 --> 01:13:51,840 jump with their powerful tail. This had a tail, I think, yeah 924 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,239 it did. It has had a kind of a shaggy tail, but it 925 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,840 not the kind of tale that would help it balance the jump. And you 926 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:03,479 know, so I would say, no, all right, I've got another 927 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:10,479 question for you from Zerith the Alchemist, and his question is have you had 928 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:15,760 any sort of possible encounters. Again. No, No, I Well, 929 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,119 to be honest with you, I I have pretty much stayed in the urban 930 01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:28,039 light since then. I don't. I live in Las Vegas, and I 931 01:14:28,079 --> 01:14:32,039 don't. Uh, I don't really go out on on on on long cracks 932 01:14:32,119 --> 01:14:35,840 like that anymore. So No, I have not. I can understand why 933 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,800 I've got another one for you from Raider. And Raider wants to know what 934 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,159 was its reaction when he yelled, uh, it's spun around really quickly. 935 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:54,680 Uh. It it just shot its head back like it's like almost like a 936 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,359 how dare you? Moment? Or like you I don't know if it was 937 01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:01,000 surprised or not, because that obviously I knew I was there already. But 938 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,760 when I screamed out at it, I went no, and I just kept 939 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:15,199 repeating no and Murphy and no, and it it looked at me like I 940 01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:16,760 said, like I'm almost how dare you? What the hell you know? 941 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,920 And at the same time, it's kind of like looked at me like why 942 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:28,960 am I even looking at this guy? Why I should just feeling it Just 943 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,079 it was more of a look of it spun around and looked at me like 944 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:39,239 it was like wanting to get a reaction out of me. That's the best 945 01:15:39,279 --> 01:15:42,239 thing I can say. When it spun around and looked at me, it 946 01:15:42,279 --> 01:15:46,279 was like, ah, got you kind of a thing. You know what 947 01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:53,000 else to say? That's what they do. Unfortunately, I've got a question 948 01:15:53,079 --> 01:15:57,399 for you here from Chris Sirk, and this question is did you happen to 949 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:04,600 notice any glowing words during your You know, I don't think so. I 950 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:10,640 mean, like I said, I did see the flashing lights near the cistern, 951 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:15,600 the airfield, whatever the hell it was beyond the ridge. But so 952 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,520 there was a lot of lights and plus behind him he was actually silhouetted against 953 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:27,079 the uh distant freeway, So there was a lot of lights from the passing 954 01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:31,239 cars and you know things like that that I none that I would think of 955 01:16:31,319 --> 01:16:40,119 that were unusual or paranormal. If there were, I didn't notice them. 956 01:16:41,119 --> 01:16:44,920 It's not all that common. But from time to time you will have an 957 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,960 eyewitness come forward and talk about their encounter and mention the fact that they did 958 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:54,880 see what looked to be orbs or sometimes it's clear that they did see orbs. 959 01:16:55,239 --> 01:16:58,640 So yeah, if they were there, they were dround out by the 960 01:16:59,359 --> 01:17:05,159 distant freeway, and then these flashing lights over to my left, so it's 961 01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:11,479 not unprecedented. I've got another question for you from Dearren Brett and Dearreon wants 962 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,640 to know what was it doing when you came upon it again. I don't 963 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,399 know what it was doing. Oh, I don't know if it was crawling 964 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:24,279 towards Murphy, or if it had seen or smelled Murphy, or or if 965 01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:29,800 it had anything to do with Murphy. I don't know. I just saw 966 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:35,119 this thump move from left to right because I was slowly moving towards Murphy, 967 01:17:35,359 --> 01:17:41,960 and it blocked my vision of you. Because Murphy's got a white chest. 968 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,039 Even though he was all muddy and dirty, I could still see his white 969 01:17:44,119 --> 01:17:48,159 chest and his little white muzzle. And then I couldn't see it, and 970 01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:51,039 I thought maybe he had turned over or something like that, and I couldn't 971 01:17:51,039 --> 01:17:56,399 see him anymore because the cup continued to see fur I would say it was 972 01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:02,359 sniffing the ground. There's no way to do this for it. Yeah, 973 01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:06,560 I'm sorry, or rooting for something and that that you know it was, 974 01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:13,560 it was doing its thing. I guess that it was sounds like it was 975 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,680 definitely doing its thing. And there's no way to know this for sure, 976 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,239 Brett. But I bet you good money that what you saw at doing hovering 977 01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:26,560 over Murphy the way it was was just done for your benefit. I mean, 978 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,239 if you wanted to haul Murphy off and have him for dinner, then 979 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,319 there wasn't any need for him to stop, right. Theory could have just 980 01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:36,439 snatched him up and run off with him. Absolutely at any time whatsoever. 981 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,399 For that matter, he could have knocked my head off, if you want 982 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,800 to do it. Anytime I was close. I mean I was like within 983 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,520 seven feet of him. I mean, yeah, that's really close, way 984 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:53,680 too close for comfort. Yeah. I've got a common here from Rob Mack, 985 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,840 and Rob says it must have been terrifying as close to it as you 986 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:04,039 were spun around mud and water flowing on you. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 987 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:08,239 it was surreal. I mean that's the best way I can put it. 988 01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:13,079 It was like it was not really happening. And I think my brain 989 01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:15,680 went into kind of a lock because it was like, if you accept that 990 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,279 this is real, if you accept that there's a monster, you know, 991 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,199 eight feet in front of you, between you and your dog or whatever, 992 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,039 that's that's again that goes into that primal brain thing where it's like, I 993 01:19:28,079 --> 01:19:31,479 can't like this, I can't do anything. I'm gonna die, And so 994 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,960 your brain just kind of kind of numbs you, you know, you just 995 01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:40,840 yeah, all you can feel is the fear. You know, That's it. 996 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,479 But at the same time I could feel in my head, I could 997 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:49,439 still think, but my body wasn't necessarily reacting to it. It was just 998 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:56,680 that kind of terrif paralyzing hair terrifying. Yeah, I could think almost clearly 999 01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,680 in my head, but I had no idea what to do, and I 1000 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:06,399 was just I. I had basically resigned myself to the fact that I was 1001 01:20:06,399 --> 01:20:11,800 going to die. Where what was gonna kill me? But I wasn't gonna 1002 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,479 let it kill Murphy. And that's the only thing I could keep thinking. 1003 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:15,880 I was not gonna let it kill Murphy if I could stop it, But 1004 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:21,439 it was gonna kill me. Good Man for protecting Murphy the way you did. 1005 01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:26,079 Good Man, he would have done the same for me if he wasn't 1006 01:20:26,079 --> 01:20:30,279 paralyzed. Oh sure, I believe it. I've got another one for you 1007 01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:36,680 from JB. He says you were able to discern its gender. I've said 1008 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:42,199 he because it was huge. No, I didn't detect any you know, 1009 01:20:42,279 --> 01:20:46,319 general holds or anything like that. If behavior seemed male the way it would 1010 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:51,199 snort and kind of thrup its leg and you know, you know how boy 1011 01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:57,159 dogs do, and they kind of get territorial. And maybe it's just my 1012 01:20:57,239 --> 01:21:00,520 experience with dogs over the years, but yeah, it definitely had mail dog 1013 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:08,000 behavior. Yeah, it sounds like it did. I've got one for you 1014 01:21:08,039 --> 01:21:12,239 from Loose Connection, and their question is do you think they're running packs? 1015 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,760 That's more of a question for me, and I can tell you in almost 1016 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,479 every instance they're seen alone, but there have been very few. There have 1017 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:26,680 been few credible eyewitnesses who've shared an experience with me where they're reported seeing more 1018 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,720 than one together. So apparently they do run in groups and numbers sometime, 1019 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:36,640 but or sometimes, I should say, but it clearly seems to be the 1020 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:42,439 exception rather than the rule. Yeah, I don't know would they would they 1021 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,960 live in communities somewhere or or or in like in the wolf pack with the 1022 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:53,079 hunters go out by themselves or I don't know how that would work. But 1023 01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:55,840 yeah, it's kind a weird. See, that's the thing. When I'm 1024 01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:02,479 asked about that, I always tell people that wolves, wolf packs live in 1025 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:10,760 numbers because they need the numbers to dispatch the game that they prey upon. 1026 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,479 The strategize exactly it's required. I mean, they need numbers to be able 1027 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,199 to run down elk, and they need the power that comes along with being 1028 01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:25,399 in numbers to dispatch bigger prey that they wouldn't be able to take down alone. 1029 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,359 But with dog men by themselves, they can take down anything they're going 1030 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,039 to come across, all whip to a bison, anything they encounter they can 1031 01:22:34,079 --> 01:22:39,760 take down and feed themselves on. So there is no requirement number one to 1032 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,760 exist in numbers and number two if you think about their daily core requirements, 1033 01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:49,840 if you have more than one dog man and anyone near you for any length 1034 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:56,199 of time, they're going to deplete the resources of any area over nine almost. 1035 01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,560 So it just would make sense that these guys would not make a habit 1036 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,640 out of spending any time together. So, yeah, they don't. They 1037 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:09,840 don't seem like a social species. Yeah, like man even like like gorillas 1038 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,039 or anything like that. Well he might, you know, I don't see 1039 01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:15,560 him hanging out in family groups and stuff like that. No, not normally. 1040 01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:18,920 I've got another one for you from Daran. He wants to know, 1041 01:23:19,239 --> 01:23:24,039 did you get the sense that were did you get the sense that there were 1042 01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:28,640 more with it? God, I know I did not. I was worried 1043 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,119 enough about the one in front of me. No, I didn't. I 1044 01:23:32,119 --> 01:23:36,479 did not. I Yeah, as I look back on it, I think, 1045 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:41,079 as I kind of think about, well, maybe it had a Maybe 1046 01:23:41,079 --> 01:23:44,199 that's why I had approached Murphy like it did initially. It was just like 1047 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,119 it didn't just kill him immediately. Maybe it was like had a puff somewhere 1048 01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:50,560 or something like that. But I know, I don't think so. I 1049 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:55,399 don't. I as he was, he was foraging, he was doing his 1050 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,199 thing, And No, I didn't get any frenson that there was another one's 1051 01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:00,720 nearby anyway. I mean, he could have had a mate, who knows, 1052 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:05,000 but I don't think it was close by. There might have been one 1053 01:24:05,039 --> 01:24:08,920 nearby, but yeah, I doubt it. I think that would have been 1054 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,680 dead if it had children, or if it had a mate nearby. I 1055 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,920 think I would have been dead because it would have been all about protecting its 1056 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:20,439 family. Well that's a possibility, but I highly doubt that because you're no 1057 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:25,119 threat to it, especially with the two of them around, You're no feat 1058 01:24:25,399 --> 01:24:30,079 you're no threat at all to their offspring. So I think that wasn't a 1059 01:24:30,079 --> 01:24:32,760 big deal at all. Yeah. The only thing I go back through is 1060 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,640 like their behavior with you know, if they say you even looking at their 1061 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:41,359 cubs wrong, they're going to charge you. You know. But yeah, 1062 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,720 you're probably right. Yeah, yeah, no doubt about that. I've got 1063 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:54,199 a comment from Christine, and her comment is I believe dog men or dog 1064 01:24:54,279 --> 01:24:59,279 men, sasquatch, cryptids and other creatures are all involved with portals. That 1065 01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:01,359 she just might be right. I mean, there have been plenty of credible 1066 01:25:01,359 --> 01:25:06,720 eyewitnesses who come forward reported seeing a dog me in or a sasquatch step in 1067 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:13,600 or step out of a portal. So I've heard that, and that that 1068 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,880 brings me to one thing that when he leaked, you know, like I 1069 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,720 said, he was gone in two leaps, and I don't know where the 1070 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:25,439 hell he went. I mean, like I said, the woods were like 1071 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,079 a good you know, ten to fifteen yards away at least, no more 1072 01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:31,199 than that. But anyway, but he was gone in a hurtbeat. So 1073 01:25:31,199 --> 01:25:33,840 who knows, you know, that could very well, that could very well 1074 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:40,800 be. Who knows it's possible it really is? Well, I didn't though. 1075 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,840 Well that's all right. I mean, you're doing good to know your 1076 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,600 own name, so who can fault you for not looking around? I don't 1077 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,680 blame you in the least. But I'll tell you what, Brett. It's 1078 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:56,880 almost ninety minutes at the ninety minute mark, and I've got another episode of 1079 01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,760 dog Me and Encounters. It's about to drop tonight at ten thirty pm Eastern 1080 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,399 time, so I think we'd probably better get ready to get out of here. 1081 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,720 But before we do, I just want to thank you again so much 1082 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,920 for coming on and sharing the details of that experience with this and of course 1083 01:26:13,039 --> 01:26:16,840 answering all the questions that the listeners had. I really appreciate it. It 1084 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:21,399 was very cathartic, and thank you for encouraging me to do so. Oh 1085 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:26,239 You're welcome, You are welcome. I'm just so glad it's been so helpful 1086 01:26:26,279 --> 01:26:29,359 to you. And like I told you before, please remember if I can 1087 01:26:29,399 --> 01:26:31,600 never help you in the future, if you ever need help again, just 1088 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,560 let me know, and by all means I'll be there for you, because 1089 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:39,720 yeah, I'm not going anywhere. You're good man. Thank you very much. 1090 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,439 I appreciate it. Murphy says goodbye. To please give them a hug 1091 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:48,119 for me I will. I appreciate that, and for everyone listening. If 1092 01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:51,840 you've had a dogman encounter that you need help with, or if you want 1093 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:56,840 to come on the show and share your experience with the listeners, then all 1094 01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,399 you'd need to do is to go to dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. 1095 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,039 And if you do that, then of course I'll contact you and schedule 1096 01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:08,960 a film conversation with you, and that way we can have a good talk 1097 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:13,199 about your experience and take it from there. But having said all that, 1098 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,199 thanks again so much for listening to the show. Everyone. I really appreciate 1099 01:27:16,279 --> 01:27:20,600 you, and I appreciate you doing that, and of course have a great weekend.