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What's going on? Everyone, welcome
me in again to another blurry hysteria.

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Mister Flora, are you kicking us? Still kicking over there? Kicking,

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still kicking, Everyone's say, I'm
kicking like a chicken baby. Well,

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we got a doozy for are you? And it's such a doozy. We

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brought in a ringer or just an
overthinker, whatever you want to call it.

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Mister Kevin Christmas here Kevin. Yes, hello, you wait, you

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know what I'm doing you a disservice? Yeah, you are doing me a

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disservice. Print name is Oh god, you play that because again I forget

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my name. Well, you're gonna
forget a lot of things, uh,

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because blood's gonna rain in the streets
because the topic we got this week.

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Either that or it's gonna get a
big huh collective from the world. I

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want to read you a passage from
this and then we're gonna get into this

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the Bible. Yes, it is
good, or it's going to throw a

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lot of things into question. From
the Bible. I'd say sixteen starting with

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a quote here, the non human
intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not

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alone, Gray said. Retrievals of
this kind are not limited the United States.

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This is a global phenomenon, and
yet a global solution continues to elude

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US. Now that sounds like more
propaganda, except this is coming out in

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the world of mainstream news today.
It's coming to us an article intelligence officials

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say US has retrieved craft of non
human origin Leslie Clean and Ralph Blumouthal.

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Leslie Clean is a famous because she
writes shooting a lot about UFOs, but

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she was one of the whistleblowers who
made everyone aware of a tip. And

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Ralph Blumoithal wrote for The New York
Times, just a tip. Ralph wrote

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for The New York Times for many
decades and has written about UFOs and how

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they deal with things of the government. A former intelligence of visual turned whistleblower

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has given Congress and the Intelligence Computy
Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply

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convert programs. Covert that is that
he says possessed retrieved intact and partially intact

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craft of non human origin. Now
I sent this to you guys today.

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Initial thoughts were you at so well, David, you go first? Oh?

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Okay, well you go first.
First thing I asked Brent was what's

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the source. Is this a legit
source? And it's we were reading it

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on the Debrief, which is an
okay source for um UFO news and stuff

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like this. And then, like
Brent said, Leslie Keene and Ralph Bluementthal

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both have some good journalistic pedigrees to
their names, so um, but beyond

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that, after reading it, it's
it's a very long article which is packed

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with information. It's very well written. I feel like this is a pretty

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legit thing. This guy has really
come forward. I mean, it's not

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just off here the Debrief. I
liked there, and several people right for

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the Debrief have been on Hysteria fifty
one, so they that's I mean,

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I've been on it. Kevin's on
it right now, Brenton, come on,

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well, I want to agree.
You know what David said, right,

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That's why I had him go first, because he could say better than

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me. But also, um,
you know, Brent, I know that

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you had invited me to be a
guest host on another possible upcoming episode of

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Hysteria fifty one, in which I
did some reading along the same lines as

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this, And you know, I've
always been pretty goddamn skeptical about the whole

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thing, not that I think don't
think that there are other life forms,

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because of course there are, but
that people are seeing these things. The

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little bit of reading I did that
you've shared with me really made me rethink

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that. And then so I guess
it's to have this. And then an

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actual whistleblower going to Congress and saying
this, it seems pretty legit to me

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as well. So he says,
I'm just going to read some pieces of

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this the information, he says has
been illegally withheld from Congress. He filed

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a complaint alleging that he suffered a
legal retaliation for his confidential disclosures that are

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being reported here for the first time. Other intelligence officials, both active and

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retired, with knowledge of these programs
through their work in various agencies, have

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independently provided similar, corroborating information,
both on and off the record. Meaning

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some people that are really in the
government and have a pedigree you can look

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up, you can vet them,
are coming forward and saying, yeah,

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this is true. So a little
on this guy, this whistleblower, David

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Charles, how do you want to
say? His last name? Grouse gr

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Usca two thirty six decorated former combat
officer in Afghanistan, veteran of the National

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Geopatial Intelligence Agency NGA and the National
Reconnaissance Office n R, and I'm sure

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a bunch of other acronym places.
He served as a Reconnaissance Offices representative to

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the United Aerial Phenomenon task Force from
twenty nineteen to twenty one, and from

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late twenty one to July at twenty
twenty he was in GA's co lead for

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UAPH Yeah, twenty twenty two,
thank you, twenty twenty. From late

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twenty twenty one to July of twenty
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UAP analysis and its representative to the
task force, meaning he was the guy

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with his finger on what was being
brought in. And he says. The

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task force was established to investigate what
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identified Anomalous phenomenon or whatever you want
to say. Up. The task

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force was led by the Department of
the Navy under the Office of Under Secretary

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of Defense for Intelligence and Security.
Man. There's a lot of names in

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this has since been there's offices.
Yeah, this article has its own voice.

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Yeah. It's since been reorganized and
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to include investigations of objects operating underwater, which is well usos, which are

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very much just as Bob Hope shows, not not exactly. Okay, that's

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the problem and I'm not making fun
of Kevin is that is to go to

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anytime these things are brought up.
And I think that's the media when these

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things were brought up, and like
the um, the tic tech stuff,

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it would be on like the regular
news and they go aliens anyway, No,

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and I think it's funny, just
like they did for on fuck thirty

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two. Yeah, so we were
last night. We were actually on Fox

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News Fox threte to Chicago and they
did a story on David and I and

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HYSTERI fifty one and it was very
good. It's a really good story.

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Yeah, it was great. A
couple things, Brent, you should always

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make fun of me, make fun
of me more. And um, so

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what does USO in this context stand
for unidentified submerge objects? I ever heard

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that in my life? Yeah,
So, because you don't listen to this

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show because it's half the ship now. Um. I like I like this.

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I like that they're grouping it all
together now and they've given it an

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acronym. That's a lot easier and
more fun to say than UFO or UAP

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or USO. We get now a
DAR. Yeah, all Domain Anomaly Resolution

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Office ADARO a DAR. Oh well, and did you see also, just

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to kind of add on to what
you're saying, what all the people are

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saying U Carl E. Nell a
recently retired Army colonel and current aerospace executive

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who was the Army's liaison for the
UP Task Force from twenty twenty one to

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twenty twenty two and worked with Grus. I think we said there characterizes Grouse

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as quote beyond reproach end quote.
Yeah, and there's a photo of him,

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So that's that's a pretty heavy i'd
say. So. Uh. Well

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that they make on the back or
whatever you want to call it. Yeah,

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they make a big deal in the
article about mentioning several times that Grouse

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is beyond reproach like every one of
his co workers, everybody's who who's works

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UP. They can't see him as
being a liar. Yeah, they say

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he is. Uh, he is
legit, and he is honest and moral

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to the degree. Yeah, here's
an interesting quote. He's as honest as

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Lance Armstrong I'm just kidding. That's
not in there. Oh wait wait sorry,

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uh Neil Armstrong, Sorry Neil Armstrong. Yes, get this too.

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This is an interesting one. In
the SAME's cleared for publication by the Pentagon

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in April. Gross asserted that UFO
legacy programs have long been concealed within multiple

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agencies, nesting UAP activities in conventional
secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various

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oversight authorities, which is what we
all knew. Yeah, or at least

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his thought was true, because you
were going to tell me that they haven't

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looked into this since Blue Book.
That's terrifying if they hand, I mean,

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this is what we've always been saying
about compartmentalization, right, Yeah,

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they had several things working on it. Nobody knows what the right hand's doing,

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you know, the left hand doesn't
know what the right's doing. Kind

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of thing. He's he's so this
guy, that's what's happening since twenty twenty

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two, has been going to Congress
and doing recorded classified information transcriptions, giving

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them hundreds of pages hours of just
everything that was going on. He came

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everything but physical stuff, right,
because he does not have of that.

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He can only tell you what he
had seen and so this is basically on

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the record, just confidential, is
what you're saying. He's told all this

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to Congress over many hours. Yeah. Well, and the reason he went

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forward, he says, individuals in
these UAP programs approached me in my official

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capacity and disclose their concerns regarding a
multitude of wrongdoings such as illegal contracting against

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the federal acquisition regulations and their criminality. And this impression of information across a

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qualified industrial base in academia, meaning
the powers that be are hiding this from

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their superiors, from from people that
could use this in education, from people

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that could use this in aerospace.
Things like that there is a breakdown,

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which means that's almost shadow government eight
or or there's you know, something's going

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on where you know the right hand
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I don't go ahead, go ahead, Vin, Sorry, Oh, I

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don't know how many times I have
to tell you this. Everything that you

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guys talk about on the show is
real, every fucking thing, and this

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just proves it. Brent and David. But really my eyres towards Brent here,

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go ahead, David. Sorry,
I think this is um really kind

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of fascinating in the sense that when
we talk about let's say, for example,

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the moon landing, and people say
it's fake. They we we always

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say to that there's too many people
involved for this to be to have been

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kept a secret and been kept that
way for so long, this kind of

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throws a wrench in that, Yeah, because how many people know about this

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or don't you know? Yeah,
and this feels well, I mean,

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obviously it feels a lot more real
than fake moon landing conspiracy, but this,

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you know, this, this feels
like it's got some weight to it.

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Right, Let's set the break.
When we come back, I'm gonna

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give this guy a little more credence
and we're gonna break this down a little

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bit more. That's coming up after
the break. I'm blurry hysteria, more

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like Fortunate Son, Proud Mary Water
Revival. Yeah, Born on the barn

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Man for those of you at home, just a little peek behind the magic.

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David was just singing Born on the
Bayou for six straight hours. But

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we gotta go back. I gotta
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talking about this guy's pedigree. In
twenty twenty two Performance Evaluation, Laurie A.

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Potter. She's the Deputy chief of
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of the Army. So yeah,
described Neil, another new whistleblower, as

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the guy who was on the task
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strongest possible moral compass, meaning the
people that are coming through in doing this,

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Um, they're not Joe Schmo,
who's uh seems to be upset with

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the militarian and striking back or something
like that. So, but is he

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an officer and a gentleman that is
yet to be determined? Male names?

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What was the name you said she
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is another person that he had worked
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Ken Neil that the dude I quoted
earlier exactly. So he is because there's

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a Carl Neil. No, did
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Neil? Yeah, it's Carl Nell. I'm sorry we're getting the right name

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anyway. Um, when you have
multiple agencies and sting up activities in conventional

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SAP c AP programs, both as
recipients of exploitation related insights and for operational

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reasons without appropriate reporting to various oversight
authorities, you have a problem. This

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is from Gross said, referencing to
the highly secret special access programs and controlled

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access programs, which just means someone
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sounds like several someone's right. We
could go on and on and on about

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this. That's the big takeaway is
what's going on? Um, what do

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you guys feel is, let's say
this is true and we learned in the

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next few months. What do you
see happening? Well, first of all,

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I think we got to be we
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a wall here because one of the
guys talking about this is named Jonathan Gray.

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Oh, and Gray says, the
non human intelligence phenomenon is real.

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We are not alone. Hello,
methinks the lady doesn't protest too much,

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mister Gray alien, Um, I
think I think it's a amazing and it

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does feel like we're headed towards them
finally being like, look, everybody,

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stuff's going on. Here's here's what
we have, here's what we know.

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We don't think it's a threat.
You know, they're going to kind of

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downplay the danger of it. But
I don't know if it's going to get

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us into the Federation or not.
But it seems like stuff's really leak and

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hit right and left. The damn's
about to burst right. Well, and

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you're talking about johnthan Gray. He
talked about how in this how secrets are

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necessary, but there comes the time. Yeah, and he said he more

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and more people are piling on this
idea, right. Yeah, So it

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says he said, you know that
the apostles hypothesis that the United States alone

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has both of the other nations and
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continues to prevail as a Primerican census
among the public at large. Here's what

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my hope's persuade the global populace from
this archaic and preposterous notion and to part

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actually paved the way for a much
broader discussion. And then I love that

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Grush said it's was dangerous for this
eighty year arms race, which is what

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it is. They're they're using these
They want weapons to continue in secrecy because

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it further inhibits the world's populace to
be prepared for an unexpected non human intelligence

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contact scenario because they're saying it's not
real and it's become a joke, which

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is something that we know that the
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not they used it. You know, they had to change it word UFO

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because it became a joke. Yeah. Um, well, I'm gonna take

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your question that you ask Brent.
I'm just going to shorten it a little

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bit. I'm gonna cut it off
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feel? I feel a lot of
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know, I think he's our Guyana
Troy. He's an EmPATH that's just doesn't

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have the same knockers yet you.
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well versed on this, this whole
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for example, a tip you when
was that kind of brought out in

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the whistle? You said, like
this, Leslie, well, that is

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really interesting that you don't know because
this has been so A tip was something

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that they found out. They funded
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that officially didn't exist, all right, so, and I think it was

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it ended in like twenty twelve.
It came to the world's eye in around

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twenty twenty when that whole tic TAC
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And it was a Department of Advanced
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stood for. Okay, so it
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I didn't remember when it was like
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it came to light and we started
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and like around twenty twenty. A
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when people were in quarantine and stuff
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started coming According to the Department of
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A type expired in twenty twelve,
after five years, except reporting suggests that

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it went on through a lot longer
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you know, so it is what
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gonna deny I assume. I don't
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deny this for that long. If
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I think Congress is really starting to
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telling us? And this is a
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are both going and we want to
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article that the twenty twenty three National
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was drawn up by Kirsten Gillibrand and
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one Democrat, and then it was
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December twenty two, and that the
language is supposed to protect informants from retaliation

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because for this stuff, because they
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congressman, your senator, and your
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you don't have any power or people. Okay, so you're on these committees

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oversight communities, these things you find
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to the military, this acronym.
That acronym is supposed to be answering to

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me. And you find out they're
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alien tech, non human tech,
maybe non human people, vehicles, both

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intact and partial. And this isn't
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world, and it's not just the
US suppressing it. And that's, as

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they were saying, kind of a
bullshit theory. That's a tough pill to

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swallow. So they're coming forward and
being like, uh no, like we

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want to know. And that's something
that for a long time it was protected.

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Um, obviously we don't have the
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because and if this is going,
this is speaking to everybody in the world,

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you know, having some piece of
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you look at Russia right now getting
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do you think they would have if
they had some reverse engineered tech that they

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had recovered. Don't you think maybe
they're like, well, would it be?

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Powers that be aren't allowing it to
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mean, well to right into what
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they had it, wouldn't they use
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the same way we do nuclear weapons
like mut deterrence? Right, So like

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they don't want to use theirs because
then we'll use hours on them. I

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don't know. Maybe that's this is
a great example of how gray the world

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is, right, nothing's black and
white, and there's a For a long

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time we've said that people don't want
to disclose things. The government keeps this

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for a number of reasons. This
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it doubles down on the fact that
everybody in the world's working on but there's

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not really anything yet to say,
but everybody wants to keep it hush hush

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because they don't want it's something somebody
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there's all these reasons and stuff,
Whereas this guy's saying, if if everybody

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just brought this out in the open
and talked about it, we could advance

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as a civilization. Right. Wegether
from Rush the he said, here's a

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quote. They end with this.
I hope this revelation serves as an ontological

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shock sociologically and provides a generally uniting
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their priorities. It's saying what you're
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he wants this to bring people together
and go, well, maybe oh we

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should quit bickering about this, that
and the other. And because there's a

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lot larger world out there. I
use world as like you know, universe.

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brings to mind, well, why
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said, Jonathan Gray, it's right
there and I knew it. You got

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great again. Oh boom, I
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laugh still us. There are many
many great quotes in this and it's just

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it's all in information a very little
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really think that this is something.
And of course we're gonna have the link

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in the show, not us read
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it's it's not it's it's cool.
It's uh, it's really really neat.

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I think it's going to explode here
this week. It just came out to

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me. I hope so, um, and I hope that this gets talked

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in the mainstream media as much as
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see. I actually, as we've
been on here, I quickly went to

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a website, an aggregate website that
just takes the main headlines of the day,

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just to see if that had showed
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hasn't. That's from listening. But
wouldn't wait. I didn't even look because

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you just sent this to us.
We were here doing a sad times and

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then you were kind enough to invite
me on when was this published? I

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know it's today, like this morning, okay, this morning. It just

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came out this morning. Yeah.
Uh. Non human origin crafts are held

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by the nations of the world and
have been for eighty plus years. Is

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what people that have firsthand knowledge and
can be vetted to at least been in

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those positions. Are telling Congress that's
your takeaway. The material includes intact and

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partially intact vehicles, So we can
only hope they have Luke's landspeeder. That

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is true. What if that's all
we get out of Luke's landspeeder, Well,

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we can all go to yeah,
big tires, keeping that under wraps.

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Man. They do talk about Stanford
professor Gary Nolan, which his name

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has popped up in these circles before. Um, yeah, and he's he's

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talked about, you know, just
think of something to advance civilization scientifically,

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something as small as he says,
a grain of silicon or germanium. It's

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the underpinning of integrated circuits that underlie
computation and now you know AI. And

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he says, you know, something
even as small as that, if you

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could get that out of these materials
and stuff, it can change the course

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of technology and civilization all that kind
of stuff. And he's right, like

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how it's got to be super hard
and frustrating to try and reverse engineers something

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like that. You know what I
mean? Right? You have no I

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clue what it is or have never
seen it before how it works trying to

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replicate that it's got to be tough. I was trying. I'm m I

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was thinking in here somewhere now I
read it earlier and I send you guys,

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and it's been a couple of hours. They were talking about, you

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know, how they knew they there
from other you know, there was elements

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and things that are not of this
world. How they knew it was not

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of this world. It's somewhere in
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Um anyway, it's we're not going
to break this down for you because

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we're just skimming over and we wanted
to get this out to you. Literally,

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were putting it out late today because
we wanted to get a came out

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this morning, so I wanted to
get this out. So read it.

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Let us know, head to Hysterian
Nation and head to blurry Photos. Let

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us know what you guys think,
let us know your thoughts. You're concerned

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what this means to you. What
do you guys see this meaning to the

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world, Because it's an interesting,
interesting, and truly a world shaping event

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if this is true, and it's
something that we've you know, believed for

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a long time, but to have
it come out and be true it's still

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like a like a I don't know
if it's a breath of fresh air or

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scary and terrifying or all of the
above. Yeah, I would say all

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the above. Yeah yeah, so
uh yeah. Kids, read it,

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talk about it, tell everyone you
know, and get people talking about this.

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We'll see you next time. I
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