Hi everyone, This is Christina and Carmen. Also, before we start the
episode, I do have some sad news, sad update, if you will.
About two weeks ago, I want to say, MJ messaged us and
let us know that she just has too much going on right now. She's
having a hard time and she wants an indefinite break from the podcast. So
that was very sad for us to hear. Obviously, we're gonna give her
all the space she needs if she ever wants to come back, she is
of course always welcome, but yeah, you know, let's give her the
space that she needs. We still you know, send each other memes of
course, and like, also just want to thank her for everything she's done
for a Spooky Tails. When we first started, I had begged Karmen to
do with me, but she was too busy. Yeah, and MJ was
she stepped in. She was like, I want to do it, and
we've had so much fun. She's been such a delight and it's been an
honor to share this journey with her. And I know, you know,
obviously listeners we're going to miss her. Listeners are going to miss her.
Send her, you know, good vibes, keep bring your thoughts. But
yeah, she did ask for a break, so we're gonna keep, you
know, going, and I mean as long as we can. Yeah,
truly, I cannot see myself not talking about haunted places with you focus and
everything focun us gray hair looking like Mama Coco if you can. Yeah,
we will be talking as I get booth talks. I fully intend to,
okay, and I'll let you guys know. So if it look different and
frozen, that's why, and that's the goal. I shared the experience with
us too. Yeah, but yeah, we did want to give that update.
So we're gonna keep doing this together forever. And if she ever is
in the space where she wants to come back, of course, yeah,
yeah, well welcome her back with open arms. But yes, but we
will be talking about today, all right, exactly, thank you. All
right, So now we're ready for the episode, so I'm gonna be sure
I knowes. But of course, before we get to that, Carmen does
have a listener story and if you have a story that you want to send
to the podcast, you can email espektails at gmail dot com. You can
dm us on any of our socials. You can call the Spooky hotline.
The number is in the show notes or the description. If you're watching on
YouTube. There's a lot of ways to get us a story. We will
read it. And yeah, send us your stories. We love receiving them
and all right, are you are you ready? Yeah, let's get into
it. So this is from Charity. Hi. I wanted to share a
sleep paralysis dream I had a few years ago. It'll be a short story,
but it still freaks me out and I wanted to share it here.
So to start, my husband and I were living in an apartment at the
time this happened. The only way we could arrange our room was for our
bed to be facing the bedroom door. My husband hates to do this since
he was always taught how it brings bad luck to yourself or your home.
His mom always told him that it's bad Fung shuei is how you say that,
right, fun shui? So here is a description from Google, and
Google says dead man's position or the coffin position, because the feet or head
faced the door and resemble how he carry the dead through open doors from the
house. Oh have you ever heard that? I didn't know this me either,
And I think that's how I sleep is that why you have a malavida?
I'm just kidding. I guess where else would you put your bed?
I don't know, facing the bedroom door. Yeah, well, actually my
door's a little off to the side, so it's not really directly facing the
door. I don't know, explain it. That's not this. No,
no, no, it's not so I'm actually Carmen. Yeah, I'm just
kidding. No, but yeah, no, but yeah. The reason I
include that is because it is relevant to the story I'm sharing with you.
So to start, we went to bed at two am. I remember having
a feeling I was being watched before going to sleep, but I brushed it
off and fell asleep. When I did get to sleep, I had this
horrible nightmare where I was being chased down by a killer in a graveyard.
He was a tall black figure that kept laughing at me while I was being
chased. No miss, no, miss way. I remember I tipped in
a hole in the dream and woke up. Or I thought I did,
because when I opened my eyes, I saw the same giant black figure in
front of our bedroom doorway that was wide open staring at me. Meh gaggle
memoio, No mom, miss I'm so scared. I said I would die
and like shait my pants, and then I said, no, my miss.
For Spanish speaker, I said no mo miss in Spanish? Sorry are
you translating that? I don't know, no miss, no way, Jose,
go on, okay, where was I Okay? So yeah, the
figure was staring at Charity. I realized then I couldn't move. I remember
trying to scream to get my husband's attention, but I wasn't able to move
or make a sound as the dark figure kept getting slowly closer to the edge
of the bed. Before it reached me. Oh my god, I was
able to let out a tiny scream, which thankfully my husband woke up and
somehow he was able to fully wake me. Oh my god. So I
told him everything that went down, and when I looked at the clock,
oh my god, it was three thirty in the morning. Of course,
it was no other time. If it was any other time, I would
expect like three am. We turned on the lights and put on a funny
movie to be able to go back to sleep, but honestly, I don't
think I ever feel truly safe in the apartment after that. Thankfully, we
moved out soon after, good Charny, I'm glad I lived there anymore because
wow, because wow, I would never be able to sleep ever again.
Same and then she just said, I'm glad your podcast exists. It makes
my day to listen to every story you put out there. Thank you so
much, Charity, Thank you Charity so much for sending that story in very
scary. I was scared. Yeah, as you could see my face if
you're watching. Sorry, we had and they were delicious. We took Laney
with us. Yeah, she didn't believe us at first, but then she
was like, yeah, right, this was really good. So if you're
in Denver, check out Las Tortas number two. It was so good.
But now I'm very full. Yeah, so I might past the bird.
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thank you for doing that and we're back all right. So I have two
stories from La Manopam. The first one is kind of short, but you
know, I love a good time travel story and honestly, sometimes these are
the hardest to kind of get behind logically. Well, you throw logical out
the window. Anything is possible, and that's what I do every day.
No, no, I'm just kidding. Okay, if you're new and you
don't know, we do, we have. We have talked about man in
the past. But a quick refresher. La Manopolula is a Mexican radio show.
It was started and thinking one is the nineties. I don't know,
don't quote me, but people call in and tell their paranormal experiences to the
host. Originally it was a different person, but I'm most familiar with Juandra
mont Science. This is the stories that I listened to the most. It's
very scary. It's kind of like you could say the Mexican coast to coast
if you know coast to coast, which you probably don't know. Okay,
that's very weird. But yeah, it's a lot of fun, and so
I will if you message me, I will send you the original links to
these episodes, because there's nothing like hearing it in their own voice. It's
in Spanish. It hits different, it really does. So here goes the
first story. I titled it a man was visited by a time traveler.
So a fisherman named Eduarlo from Campeche called into La Manopelula, and Eduardo has
lived in Campeche for thirteen years. He wakes up very early, around three
am, not three the worst time ever, and he's at work on the
sea and his boat by four and he's out there grinding and he's usually done
with work around three pm. So he was out on the sea one day
with three other fishermen at this point. It was pretty early, around seven
am. As they're fishing, they look into the shore and they were shocked
to see someone sitting close to the shore. At first, it looked like
they were kind of floating, like on top of the water, kind of
like Jesus, Oh, that was gonna be my question, Like Jesus.
Yes. They were like Jesus, okay, yes, So they were like,
what is who is that? What's going on? And so they decide
to go see what is going on. They go up to the person.
They're they're confused because the person seemed to be wearing clothes that were not from
this era. They look futuristic. So like, what's the what's the movie
with that? Sol Raven? You know, I don't know, but I
know what you're talking about. The one that her wife didn't watch. Yeah,
yeah, so picture of that movie with a raven. So that's what
they're wearing. Yeah, something like futuristic looking. So Eduardo described the clothing
as like very distinct sunglasses or maybe the matrix. I don't know, hmm.
The man looked about thirty two, if Eduardo had to guess, right.
He had shoes that looked like long socks but were not socks, but
also were not boots. Before you say, aren't those buttas? Okay,
So shoes that look like socks but were not socks, and they were in
boots either. No, like they were like formed around a foot okay,
like say you have like a little placast a superhero cartoon, like thank you?
Yes, okay, yeah, like Superman's red boots, right, but
they weren't red. Okay, yeah, I see it. Okay. Yeah.
And then the guy started speaking a different language and the fishermen didn't recognize
it at first Eduardo, but there was another one that another fisherman on the
crew who also was a tour guide. He understood English. Turns out that's
what the man from the future was speaking English. English. Oh okay,
so maybe the United States finally got their dream and colonized the future to the
future and only people. People only speak English. I don't know. Oh
my god, all right, let me make it. Let me. I'm
getting ahead of myself. Okay. So that's what the man from the future
was speaking. The guy told them that he was time traveling and he ended
up in the wrong year. Wow. And he told them he was from
the year twenty fifty seven. Twenty fifty seven is actually not that far off.
No, it's not. And the problem when you find Manouda episodes on
YouTube is that you don't know when the call took place. And I can't
find the original time frame. So wait, but it was already it was
not quandram on science anymore so after his death. After him, when did
he die? I can't remember. Oh, okay. We could look at
a really quick tavor phone. Oh man, it's charging them. I have
a computer in front of me. No. Oh, I feel like it
has to be a year that that doesn't feel close. He died in twenty
eleven. Okay, that's okay, that's not that I don't know, right,
okay, okay, okay, Well he said he was from twenty fifty
seven. Sorry, I just don't see time travel happening in twenty twty seven.
If it ever happens, I feel like it has to be further over.
Yah. Wait, no, I agree. I agree. So for
a second, I thought that this took place, the story took place,
or I've thought a lot of the called in like the nineties. Yeah,
that's what I would have thought, because Back to the Future is set in
what year? It's like from the eighties, right, Yeah, but the
movie is set like in a year. Let's tell me something I've never ever
seen that. It's because we're Mexican. Yeah, and you know sometimes as
a not only Mexican Mexicans, but like first generation, like immigrant born.
If you're born from immigrant parents, there's a lot of pop culture and movies
that you didn't watch because you're busy watching Telemundo and whatnot when Nevis and stuff.
So I didn't watch Back to the Future and we had the same childhood
time. Oh I also didn't watch it. Yeah, I'm sorry, I
by my voice sounds weird. We did so much screaming and laughing. I
feel like I sound drunka and my mouth is dry. So apologies. I
will try to fix as much of it as I can. Oh it's twenty
fifteen. Oh my god. Wow. So maybe people will be traveling back
in twenty fifty seven. I don't know. I just I don't see it.
I would like to do it, all right. So back to the
story. Sorry for that, we had to check. So the guy from
the future told the Eduardo and the other fishermen that people from his time travel
back to fix mistakes, and he meant to return to twenty thirty four,
not whatever year this phone call is taking place in, Okay. And he
told the fishermen that people go back to change the dates of tragedies, change
history. I don't like that, but okay, I feel like that's messing
with the natural space and time continuum. Yeah, and doctor who said that's
not right, right right excecto, this is amente. Okay, So to
change history the dates of tragedies, collect old technology and things like that,
but sometimes they end up stuck in the past. Hmmm. And then he
also said that they use this type of machine and it leaves them. Travel
leaves them very very tired. Regular travel leaves me very very tired. Can
you imagine traveling due time exhausting? Would that be very It has to be
very exhausting. He also said that in his time there is only one language
and that language is English. Is that why he said that earlier? That
that's why said that earlier? That honestly, I could see because you know,
colonization, it's already the official like language and places that don't even like
speak it, or like the dollar is the official currency of places that it
shouldn't be. So yeah, I can see that if any of this is
like, maybe it's that, Yeah, that part he said that there is
the guy in the future said that there is one guy room and that rules
the world. And if they speak English, I'm guessing it's like maybe maybe
it's accommindation of like English, the British and the United States. Maybe they
like team back up. I mean I could see it. I could see
it. This is just scary because I mean, okay, yeah, and
if you weren't watching, Carmen was just kind of making faces and her arms
and circles. Yeah. So the Guy from the future was with the group
of fishermen for about one hour, and during that hour, the Guy from
the future gave Eduardo his sunglasses, and Eduardo tells a Manopelula that these sunglasses
never seem to run out of whatever battery is in them. They seem to
have a battery. They seem to receive notifications. Okay, well, I
mean we have smart glasses right now. Yeah, maybe these were like Apple
Vision. Is that what it's called. Yeah, and if this was,
I don't know when the phone call took place. But these things didn't exist
yet, and I know it's not hard to imagine them, right, you
can, like if you're like writing a book, this is something you would
maybe create, right, But I don't know. And Eduardo claims to still
have these glasses, and supposedly he was going to send a video of them
going off to Mala Manopeluva. I don't know if he ever did. That's
always hard to find. People are always like, oh, to will be
there. I still have the video, but then I never see it,
so I don't know. I can't find it. And then Eduardo also said
that the guy from the future gave him information from the future that ended up
being right, Okay, so he told him and I guess you could this
could be like a fifty to fifty thing. But let me tell you.
So the guy from the future told it Eduardo, who would win a soccer
match that had not happened yet. Okay, so that's already kind of already
throwing off the fifty to fifty. He said, there's gonna be a match
between these two teams, although soccer is something that's pretty regular. You know
who's gonna be playing against you. Yeah, but here's the thing. The
guy from the future told Lardo when the match was going to take place,
what time between what teams and who was going to win? And he down
to the player that scored. And I'm sorry because I cannot remember the teams
and I didn't write it down. I was listening to Spanish and typing as
I'm listening, and like, I don't want to go back and write the
name. So but it was obviously it was real teams and a real player
and a game that did take place, and Edlardlo placed money on the winning
team. He had like he took all his money. I want to say,
like because he was a fisherman. I think he had like Guineano's pestles.
He put it all on the match. The guys from the future was
right, the one like five hundred thousand bezzles and he, I mean,
he more than like doubled his wild ye by right, So the guy was
right. And then Eduardo says that the guy told them he was breaking time
travel laws by telling him the soccer match information. Okay, I could see
that being true. Yeah, And then he also said that he wasn't allowed
to look for himself in the past or look for anyone that was related to
him. These are the rules that makes sense of time travel. And then
Eduardo already said this, but he said that the sunglasses the guy left seemed
to receive messages. They beep every once in a while, but he's very
scared to show them to anyone. And that's when the phone call ends.
Okay. Yeah, And I mean time travel is just always fun to read
about. One. Yeah, and it's a little creepy that the soccer the
soccer bar was true, verifiable, I mean, and he won many yeah.
Yeah. So and like I know, you could say he could he
could have went back and looked, but I don't know, Like I don't
know, I'm not gonna question it. You never know, you never know.
That's what that was. Yeah, Okay, And so this other story,
also from La manop and this is a na's time travel story okay,
so, and I called La Manoplua and she lets them know that she wasn't
shea? And I guess maybe some people don't know where that is. So
that is in the it's in that you got that peninsula, right, I
won't say yeah, So if anyone doesn't know, although this is probably it's
a very tasty place. Cienita is in Yucatan, in Mexico. Okay,
so south south, south south and beautiful. So and I wasn't Genita in
two thousand. Back then you could still climb the pyramids. Because you can't
do that anymore. We saw a white lady do that on TikTok and they
wont remember that a couple of years ago, right, huh. Yeah,
and then people were calling her out. Yeah, people threw stuff of her.
And when do you support that? Yeah? But back then, when
and I was there, you could climb them. And so there's a pyramid
called La Pira mell the Los Guerreros, the Pyramid of the Warriors. Next
to that, there's another one called Temple de las Moncas, the Temple of
Nuns. And so the weather was humid, and I was there with a
group of five friends, all different agent but they would travel around together.
Among them, there was a couple. So they climbed. They were able
to climb the pyramids, they were able to go inside about Temple Las Moncas,
the Temple of Nuns. And they were early because they wanted us start
seeing everything really early. Yeah, so this was around eight three in the
morning. And so it's like it's a long set of like it's a long
time to go up there and get up there. It's tiring, it's hot.
So they sat down to drink some water and they were in kind of
the first little area of the Temple of Nuns. And so they're in there
and all of them, like as things tend to do when you're with a
group of friends, they started talking about their past lives. Okay, like
their past lives, like what they thought their past lives. Okay, Yeah,
they started imagining what what did these temples look like? When I thought
the conversation we're in thinking about not even going somewhere, even like when I'm
in the Central Valley and off the top of my head, I cannot remember
what indigenous tribe, you know, the land, what indigenous tribe was resided
there. But yeah, I like to imagine like what it look like,
like how like what what trails did they take? You know, like,
yeah, it's fascinating to think about it really is, like what could have
been here if this had not happened, right, Yeah, and especially about
a place that like the Maya, and yeah, when it was at the
top of its when they were most powerful, when they had pueblos and a
community, bigger community, because of course we know the Maya are still there,
but when it was only Maya, what was that? Like, no
Spanish, no mestitos, not us. I wonder So they were That's what
they were talking about. They were wondering. And then as they're having this
conversation, they got up to walk to the back and look around. As
they're looking around, they heard someone calling them. They heard oh hell no.
They all turned around and it was an indigenous Maya. But it wasn't
like it wasn't a ghost. It was an actual person. It was you're
scared already, I mean the way I said it, Yeah, I know.
Okay, So it was an actual person, Okay, but he was
indigenous. He was beckoning them, he was speaking in Maya and beckoning for
them to follow, and they were like, okay, and and now when
she's talking to le Mano, she makes the point to say that she's from
Chiapas, and she does understand some of the Maya language in Chiapas, because
you know, each pueblo has her own language and maybe it's under the Maya
like umbrella, but it's still different. So she understands in Chiapas some words,
but she could not understand this this person that was beckoning for them.
But he was beckoning, and so they go they follow him. As they
follow, they see that there's like a path for them to follow that they
kind of don't remember was there before. Okay, yeah, so the indigenous
man, he's walking very fast. They're trying to keep up with him.
They think that it was about five kilometers that they follow, So it was
like, what two point something my own what say that again? Five kilometers?
Three miles? Just over three miles we count do males? I think
two point five miles? Three oh three point one basically three miles, so
and not estimates that they walked maybe three miles. When they turn around,
somehow the pyramids they were in are not behind them anymore. What and they
are shocked because in front of them is a city, but it's like it
looks like a Mayan city, but not like now. Like right, it
looks like from back before a colonization. Wow, she says. The vegetation
was lush, everything was so colorful. The pyramids new pyramids, new structures.
They looked new, but they were not there anymore. Wow from now
right, So it looked like they were in the past, but there was
no people around them. Wow. And they also saw a big, like
giant turtle like picture. I don't know if anyone has seen Avatar the Last
Airbender, right, so you know all the turtle that aing goes to ell
yes, and he learns to take people's bending powers away. That's what I
pictured. That's the turtle I pictured him. Okay. So the head of
the turtle was facing the north, towards Kankun is what n essid? And
I don't that means something to me because I'm like, I don't know,
like navigationally challenged, never eat several worms. So that north Okay, Yeah,
I don't know. So she's near the head of the turtle was north,
the tail facing south. There was at each foot of the turtle there
was a sei bat tree. And if anyone remembers from so long ago when
we talked about la Eshda Bai, a legend from Yukatan. She lives in
the Seba tree. She's like a snake like being and today that eats men
eat men. Yes, and she lives in these trees. And these trees
are like spiritual, they're very spiritual trees. They're old, they're old.
So there was also some stair and there was unwekel I believe, a hole
in the ground. And then the hole in the ground was completely dark.
They couldn't see what was inside, just darkness. The group walked around in
awe. It was like something they had never seen before. Suddenly, irving
one of the guys in the group, he says, hey, it's getting
dark. When he said hey, it's getting dark, everything went dark.
Wow. It was like the beauty of what they had just been seen vanished.
Wow, gone like took them out of the fantasy. Now everything looked
like back from when they had seen the man, so that they weren't in
the same they weren't even in the temple, but it looked like now they
were back to the present. Okay, yeah hm. And they looked around
and it was now five pm. Oh, wow. And remember that they
were there at eight three in the morning. Yeah, And so now they
were in what and I called Chichen level and they called Chichen be a hole,
the place that they went to that was beautiful, that's what she was
calling it. They decided to try and go back to the parking lot because
they were like, well, let's go back, it's late. But they
didn't know where they were because the path that they had followed with the man
was gone. The man gone. They were like basically in the middle of
the jungle. It seemed wow, there was just trees. They were not
even in the temples anymore. So they they start making their own path.
Basically, they start pushing through leaves and bushes to get back to the temple
of Nuns. When before this path was clear. They followed a clear path
with the man that beckoned them. Yikes. When they finally got to the
temple back out to their car, they were full of scratches from like the
trees and stuff. When like, again, this had been a clear path
like in the past, because they went to the past, it was a
well traveled path. It seems right, right, And so they get back
to the parking lot finally and they start walking around like, you know,
help, there's local vendors selling things. And so they went to go get
water. And then Enna went to this little store booth type thing with an
indigenous person selling art basically or like sculptures almost, and and I mentioned that
whenever she travels, she wants to get like local art and support the artisan
like indigenous. Yeah, and so she always gets like little things that they
make. And she really wanted this little wooden sculpture of the god of mais
maize. Corn isn't a corn. Maybe I don't think corn maze. I
don't sure, but that's sounds wrong. I don't know. I'm not educated.
Okay, So she wanted the sculpture and the vendor, the indigenous vendor,
was like, no, you don't want that. Actually, I'm not
selling you that one. You need this one. And he grabs like the
the God of medicine, a sculpture of the god of medicine. He's like,
this is what you need. And he didn't even he was like,
I'm not even selling it to I'm not selling it to you. You need
this one. You cannot have the other one. I'm giving you this one.
You need to take this home with you, and and I was like,
well, I'm not gonna like I really wanted the other one, but
I'm not going to turn down a piece of art. Like okay, fine,
I'll take this one, even though it's not the one I wanted.
So she she took it anyway, and then then you know, they leave,
they go back home. Also side note the phone call. When she
says that they left Chia and went back home, the buncle gets very weird.
It's like a weird robotics sound like a word. Okay, And then
they're like in Asasai and now are you there? And they had to call
her back. Something happened. Maybe she went through a tunnel maybe or maybe
it was a ghost. When Enna was finally home that night was fine.
The next night she started having weird erotic dreams okay and uh, we see
you. And I was like, that's weird because I don't have dreams like
this. I don't even remember my dreams. But then she's like, you
know what, maybe it's menopause that's giving me these weird erotic dreams. But
this kept going on. It didn't stop. It was every single night.
And then after a week of this happening. She started waking up with biite
marks okay and us on her Wow. And even though she was like already
like older. She's a lawyer by the way, so she's this educated lawyer,
but she lives with her parents still, and so her parents started started
asking like why are you why do you have these bi marks? Like what
are you doing? What are you bringing into our house? Like you can't
come in here? And are you being a kachina? That was That was
basically them, are you being gross, Susia? Are you hooking up with
a bunch of guys? Like why are there bite marks all over you?
Like this? I guess are you up the streets? Yeah? Are you
in the streets? In the streets? Are you in the streets That's what
it said, Yeah, okay yeah, And it was causing problems. They
kept accusing her of things she wasn't doing, and she was like, first
of all, I was doing these things like it's my business, it's okay,
but I'm not doing it. When you live with their parents, no,
not when you live with your Mexican Catholic parents, you can't do that.
But she was like, no, I'm not doing anything. Because she
wasn't and the bike marks only got worse. She then started having bruises all
over her body. She was having trouble sleeping. Then she finally talked to
the rest of the group, everyone else in the group, and another girl
said, no way, that's happening to me the same things. And then
Lupe, another group member, she was having issues too since they've been back.
She was full of scratches that wouldn't heal. So they started all freaking
out. Now that they like corroborated or they were talking and they saw that
they were all there, all yes, because now at this point it had
been three months since they returned from Chichennita. That's a long time. Wow.
Yeah, And so then they got to they decided to finally get together
and talking person about what was happening to them. When they were talking and
this is in their hometown. They're talking like a restaurant or something about this,
you know. And as they're having this conversation about what is happening to
each one of them, Akuran that all happens to be walking by and he
overhears them. He walks up to the group and he tells them, you
need to return what you took from Cienita, who took something. It's not
the thing she was given, right because okay, okay, So they were
like, what none of them known, I should know and somebody took Okay,
finish that I should have known someone took something, and that they needed
to leave there, because that's how you get like cursed after Yeah, exactly.
So they were like, what, no, none of us took anything,
and then Lupez starts crying. Pincha Lupez, Lupita get together, Oh
my god. Lupas starts and she said she took a rock that was near
the turtle. Pincha Lupe. She cursed all of her friends. Do not
take things, leave things there. Okay, everyone roll anywhere. Yeah,
so look told them you all, all of you need to go back,
go to the exact place. And also, let me just say, it's
so hard to get a group of people together like friends to do anything right,
especially you once you're boring adult needs to work because capitalism and your schedules
never aligned. Like what if that was a one time once in the lifeting
they coordinate your schedules to go there, like imagine, imagine they can't make
it back in there. Chris forever, Lupe, Lupe steal to steal something.
But since that meant there precisely Lupez, what I'm saying, you stick
her? No, no, no, because there's other Lupees, fine,
Lupez out there. Don't steal from sacred sites. Okay, So not a
lupus hashtag, not a lupus, but mente exactly. So was like,
you need to all go back, you need to go together and return it.
And these friends made it happen. They were like, we don't want
to be cursed anymore. You know what, No matter what if I was
in that situation, no matter what, I would have made it work,
like yeah, like I can't live like this anymore, exactly, no matter
how hot the dreams are, because they were sexy, you remember that in
the beginning, But then she couldn't sleep anymore. That's right, that's right,
it's right. So they all go back. But then the problem is
okay, so they went back to Genita. But then the problem wait,
sorry, tell me why I got more energy when you said the dreams were
hot? Not just kidding. We all noticed it was the curse. Actually,
that curse was up and then all of a sudden, like a burst
of energy, that's good because she was falling asleep. None. If you
see me and you think I'm a bitch because I'm not paying attention to Christina,
it's actually because I'm very, very tired, and I was like fighting
for my life right now. It's been a busy weekend. But we're making
this happen because we don't want to get behind right right for you, for
you, y'all know. So, oh my god, I can't. Okay.
So they the problem is that, yeah, they need to go back
to chichen Nita, But how do they find old Za the place they went
to? Wait? How okay, well, okay, I'll tell you.
So they they tried to ask around and no one knew when they were talking
about. Yeah, no one need what they were talking about. They're like,
oh my god, what do we do? We can't give up,
we can't live like this. Before planning that trip, I would have told
everyone, okay, let's jump oopen because this is the best fault. So,
yeah, how do they go back to a place that doesn't exist?
Right? Like? They have to travel back in time again when who knows
how they even did it the first time? Right? They need to find
that man? Yeah, they do so they no one knows what they're talking
about. When they're at the pyramids. They go to the local pueblo right
by the pyramids, and they start asking around for like the Kuran of the
pueblo, who is the medicine man, who is the healer here, who
knows this stuff. Finally they find someone and he knows what they're talking He
knows chi chen yelevel. He knows, so he helps them with a ritual.
They had to make like this special atoll together at all at all,
Like you know, the drink, yeah, yeah, and I don't know
how to hold on. Let's all are people that might not know what a
is. It's like but with corn, Yeah, thank you, it's the
hot drink. It's delicious. Yes, I actually don't like a toll.
I like both. I like level drink anyone anytime except when I'm doing or
when it because it's hot. That's true in the winter, the winter drink,
right, So he he hasn't make it the special atoll together. They
have to make it together. Then at that point they had to get over
over their anger a lupid. They had to do I would watch this movie.
I would, I would, I would, And they had to make
it from scratch to wow, and then sorry, let me go back to
where it was. And then they had to ask for forgiveness. At the
site forgiveness, they had to put the rock exactly where it was. I
would you even know? Okay? I would immediately start fighting Lupe again.
What do you mean you don't remember? Imagine that was me? Does this
help? Never? The curse would never end. You would never remember,
and you would. I probably wouldn't either, Honestly, who he remember is
like when they steal stuff from where like I don't? I mean exactly,
So took them. He was able to take them to Chichen beer Home.
Wow. They went to exactly the place they had gone before, the old
chi Chen is what they called it. They found the turtle and for some
reason, and Enna has no idea why she had the little statue of the
god of medicine with her this whole time. She took it back to time
with her. It was just with her and the Kurendudo for the ritual.
He tells them, I need a statue of a medicine man. But she
had it. She had it, okay and okay, and like coming to
the rescue, mind blown, and so she gives it to one for the
ritual and they complete it. They're able to go back safely, and they
ended up okay, except for the married couple. Really yeah, divorce mm
hmm. They divorced because the guy got home from work and he saw the
shadow of a person laying down the bed. This was a ghost, This
is not a man. And he didn't believe his wife. How dare you
not believe her, especially when everyone else is being cursed? You lost because
you didn't believe her story? Yeah, And like I think this is before
they started connecting with and see. But then by by the time they learned
what was happening, and it was happening to everyone else, the loss,
the trust had been broken and they couldn't they couldn't recover it. He thought
she was cheating, She wasn't. It was the curse. The curse was
doing this because she was also had the bruises and the BikeE marks. And
yeah, they couldn't get past it. And so by the time they realized
this was a shared haunting, a shared curse, it was too late.
They didn't make it. Wow. Yes, and that was and that story.
I love that story? Was it not? And I would watch this
movie. No, and this needs to someone please get on it. Please
And yeah, I guess we've reached the end of the episode. Okay,
do you have any speak your recommendations? I actually do. On the way
here, I watched the movie, like downloaded it on Hulu and then I
watched it. I watched it during my flight. I watched where Evil Lurks
and in Spanish. I think it's done Aceta, hold on, I gotta
do check that it was in Spanish with subtitles. Watch subtitles. Well,
actually you did because of the abst I need subtitles anyway. Yeah. Actually,
I don't know if that's an age thing. It is, no,
it can be. Oh okay, sorry correction. The name is Kuandoad Malad.
That actually sounds better than when you said. It came out in twenty
twenty three. It is currently on Hulu, is where I found it.
I think at some point it was only on Shutter. Now it's in both
places, Shutter and Hulu. You can find it in either one. It's
an Argentina movie, and immediately when I was in Argentina, I was like,
this is gonna be messed up. This is gonna be fucked up.
Oh, no, it was, it was. It was. I don't
want to spoil anything. I really spoiled everything for Carmen. Yeah, and
they loved it, but you need to watch it. I was so disturbed,
to say the least, just like a mild spoilery thing. I guess
it's not a zombie movie per se, but you can think of it like
that. Nah. Yeah, you could think of it like a viral like
illness eight days later sort of. But this thing like possesses a person and
they do some messed up things and it can spread, so it spreads,
not like a zombie, but in the way that a zombie infection, like
you know, spreads and it becomes a problem for a whole like country town.
Right, That's how this thing spreads. But it's not zombies. It's
worse. It's so terrifying. Uh. And then the end, like again,
there's no happy ending. You just you finish it and you're just like,
oh my god, you're just like destroyed. Yeah. I actually I
like watching stuff like that that like kind of like destroys me. Yeah,
and that's what this movie did. I will be watching it. You show
points. It was I My heart was racing. It's good and you're gonna
be so frustrated the whole time, the whole time with the main character.
He does not stop being And I'm just kidding, he doesn't stop being.
Yeah, he just everything. It's fault, one of those I'll just say
that everything's his fault in the movie. But it's a must watch. It's
so good. Okay, okay, what about you. I don't know if
I can recommend it yet because I just started reading it and I'm only probably
like five pages in. I'm reading She is a Haunting. I don't have
my kind in front of me, so i can't remember the author. But
I'm done. Well, no, because I'm going to talk about it again
when i'm done anyway, so i'll meant to notter then. But even like
literally the first page, beautiful, beautiful writing, and I'm looking forward to
the rest of it, all of it, all of it, because again
I'm like five pages in. But it was described kind of if you've read
these books. It was described as my Sister the serial Killer meets Crying in
h Mark, And I've heard of My Sister the serial Killer. I haven't
read it, it's on my tv R, but I have read Crying in
h Mark, which I loved, absolutely loved, So I'm just looking forward
to Yeah, and I have read My Sister The Serial Killer. Wait haven't
you you've read both? I've read both, so I'm I'm I placed a
hole for the book Carmen's talking about. She is a haunting. Yeah,
and I have read My Sister The Ceriiciller and Craning H Mark. My Sister
the Circiller, I mean basically what it sounds, that's literally what it's about.
And I think she's an African author. Yeah, I believe so Nigerian,
Nigeria is in Africa. Got that. And then crying and h Mar
is a memoir, so it's not spooky. It's beautiful though. Yeah,
a woman talking about her the grief, grief relationship with her mom and how
food and you know, as Latins, Latin and Latino, we know how
important food is to our culture. It ties you to your culture, it
is. Yeah, And that's kind of like a focal point of crying in
h Mark. And she's like trying to connect, you know, with her
mom. She's Korean American, right with Korean. Yes, just loo,
get up, okay, before we're wrong, before we spread misinformation okay,
we were right. Yeah, and here, okay, here's like the summary
when you look online, Crying in h Martin is a poignant no, poignant,
poignant How do you say that word? Poignant? Poignant, poignant?
I don't know. Ignore us. It's a memoir about growing up Korean American,
losing her mother to cancer, and finding solace in food. It is
a heartfelt exploration of grief, identity, and the power of cultural connection.
Yes, and as Latino Latine people, it's relatable. It's not about us,
no, no, but we can connect to it in that way.
And honestly, it's written so well, it's really good. So yeah,
yeah, so yeah. I mean, hopefully I finish it in my you
know, time in the airport and flying back, and hopefully I can talk
about it next time we record. Yeah, okay, okay, all right.
This actually brings us to the end of the episode, I think,
and I think did we mention where we were at, like why we're okay?
Okay, So now that we're at the end of the episode, we
are in a hotel together because we attended the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival
in Denver. I mean, it's when Westminster Colorado, basically Denver, basically
Denver. It's our first time coming to an event like this. We were
I was nervous, what about you? Yeah, I was scared that like
nobody was gonna come talk to us. People did? People did? I
mean, because it's mostly a true crime. It's more true crime and like
maybe our listeners know, but like, I don't think a lot of people
know about these like tiny little small baby podcasts and that is I mean,
I know people are like, that's not you, but compared to I don't
know, pot cows like generation why, yeah is us We're like relatively outside
of like all of you. Nobody knows, as Boogie tells, Like,
so it was like who even are you? Are you here? Yeah?
And then our little sign said like, oh, tell us a ghold story,
and then we're in the middle of all these true crime tables. Yeah.
Yeah, but people did come talk to us. But most importantly,
we met a listener. Yes, honestly, that was a highlight, a
highlight of the weekend. Yeah, and meeting Aiden and Leani in person.
In person, there are just so much fun. We laughed too much,
so hard, dude, my head and my stomach hurt from how much we
laughed. Yes, it was a great time. Meeting our listener was such
an amazing experience. It was so fun. We are so thankful. He
drove an hour after work. He wasn't even sure he was going to be
able to get in because it was like the events, everything was over,
like at a certain time. He drove after work and so just like it
took. I think it takes a lot to go to a place you don't
even know. Yeah, you like, but you know what to show up,
Just show just do it. Yeah, and like, are you still
selling tickets? They weren't, but you know what, we made it happen.
He met su Aiden from Susto and Laney from It's Hunted What Now,
also a friend of the podcast, the other official coho. No, I'm
just kidding. She wants she's gonna be like I am so yeah. Yeah,
the other official, unofficial official co host of his Big Tels because now
I'm an official co host. She is the official contract actually obligated official co
hosts. And yeah, it's been such an amazing weekend. It's been honestly
inspiring. We watched Sustal he did a live that way, hold on,
I have a spooky recommendation. It's seen sustal live if you can. Even
though I because like of all my podcasts, there are certain episodes I re
listened to all the time when either when I don't want to find something new
or don't feel like listening to something else, or like sometimes I just need
noise, but I need noise I've already listened to that's not music to focus
on something. That's when I re listened to certain episodes. And so for
SUSTO, it's the law Pucci, did I say them right? Yes,
okay, and the Dancing with the Devil, and that's what he talked about
and I are presented, yeah, talked about but that's like what he presented
as like his live show. Yeah, the the presentation, the lights,
the narration. It's just amazing. It was so good. And I've told
these stories myself millions, like not millions of times, a lot of times,
and hearing Aiden do it on his live show, no one else can
do it like Aiden, honestly, So seriously watch Aiden if you can.
Susto. Also just listen to Suso. Yeah, although I know so many
of you already do so. Yeah, but yeah, that was amazing,
honestly, it's been an amazing weekend. But yeah, that's why we're in
person together. Yeah, that's why I lost my voice and also why we're
so tired and why I was fighting for my life to stay awake when Christina
was talking. And it's not because I think Christina is boring. I actually
think next to me, she's like the funniest person I know. Second to
you, Carmen is funny. They too, Yeah funny, but you said
you're more funny. I did say that. Yeah, no, I agree.
Now you know I've grown a lot because two years ago I would have
been like fighting that I'm funnier. Yeah, but now you know I accepted
it. I didn't and yeah, okay, should we finish this or you
have more to say? No, no, that was it? Okay,
but okay because I was like, we said why we worked together, and
then I was like, wait, Aiden was amazing. You need to if
you can watch them live, and yeah, I think that was it.
Okay, So yeah, okay. That brings us to the end of the
episode. We need to drink a lot of water. I'm so thirsty.
We need to hydrate because I don't know if it's an altitude. Now I
feel like I'm out of breath. Yeah, same, same, and yeah,
honestly, I just want to also say like thank you to everyone that
sends messages, relieves, reviews, engages, listens even just listening. And
I know m MJ is not gonna be with her and any of you listeners
we might have met any listen, Yeah hello, hello, hello, but
yeah, and I know MJ's not with us anymore. If she every wants
to come back, we're always gonna welcome her. And I hope that you
know you guys are cool with me and Carmen Karma's not new a new host,
so you know you should know me by now, you should know her
by now an episode one seventy something, right, you and Carmen always feels
in for MJ anyway when she would be sick or the times she took other
breaks, And of course we're gonna miss her, but we're gonna I'm asa
said, we're gonna keep going. And yeah, we just want to thank
everyone for sticking with us for all the random like you know, randomness,
because I know when you search the podcast for the first time, it says
Christina and MJ. And then like then you get to one point you're like,
where's MJ. And then Carmen's like, Hi, hey, hey,
So you know, I will be updating all this now because now it's like
a more official break than it ever has been before for MJ. It's indefinite,
and so I am going to be updating everything. It is officially going
to be me and Carmen, And yeah, thank you to everyone that's sticking
with us or everyone that just found us. And you go to the past
and you're like, who is this. That's our friend, that's our friend,
and we're going to miss her, yeah doing this with her? Yeah?
Yeah, Okay, are we good? I think? So? Okay,
don't face your bed to the door. Yeah yeah, yeah okay,
And don't steal anything from sacred sites. Yes, and stay Spookie. We'll
catch everyone next time. Bye bye,