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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and
welcome to the six hundredth episode of the

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Geek First Podcast. I'm the clown
Prince of Webb's trust now, and I'm

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joined by I am web Kirklan Potzer
Nice, I'm I'm the ceiling guy must

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And even though you can enjoy a
some interview in the comment section, I

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see Taylor Field with an emoji DJ
DJ hand, so I know he's up

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to tonight. I know he's a
he's a long masson's asleep and he's DJing

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himself. Yeah, that's what's happening. Take care of the baby, Terry

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should have enjoy Man and Webb.
We could mix those sentences. No,

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a little solo beatbox and this stuff. But yes, Leah Joan, it

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is our six hundred. A big
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And uh yeah, let's get into
it. So we've been here, you

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know, we've we've been anticipating Madam
Web. We've done go back in the

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feed if you want. I didn't
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want, and if not on YouTube, you got the Venoms, you got

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the Madam Or, you got the
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Now, uh, there will be
a Creating review and I guess there

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will be a Venom three review.
Uh, there's we've reviewed all the Spider

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Man we just a couple of weeks
ago. Oh, go ahead, we

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got to do a Sony versus the
Golden Geeks. By the end of all

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this. Oh yeah, when I
think comes, yeah, but I feel

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like it will eventually come, and
I think that will be a fun past

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to do. That's tough because the
bad thing if they introduced Miles Morales,

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this thing's gonna go on for a
while. I do we'll get to My

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hope is with Venom three, that's
the end. They clean slate it.

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But I can't trust Sony, and
maybe that's what we're gonna talk about today.

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So as usual, we're gonna give
us our give you our overall thoughts,

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our experiences, non spoilers, and
because I have gone this from a

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lot of people, if you don't
care, we will of course give you.

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But if you don't care, you
can stick around for the spoilers.

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I've talked to at least three people
that said I won't be seeing the movie,

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but I'll listen to your full spoilerser
if you sound great, and I

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guarantee you might have more fun here. I don't know, but I just

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want to go around and gauge the
room before we get into the actual films.

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What was your crowd like, what
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was the you know, what was
going on there? I feel like it

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was a packed theater. I don't
know if an empty seat whoa. I

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think it was the smallerish, but
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It is Valentine's. There was at
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flowers. Whoa so definitely a big
This seems to be the Valentine's hit this

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year started high and then like what
we do next after this big Mack place.

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Now we're mostly Madam Webb. They're
probably just mac in the whole movie.

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They weren't actually watching it correctly.
Uh. Yeah, it was pretty

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pretty busy. I was in the
biggest theater on the west side, like

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the extreme, and definitely there was
open seats just because it's such a big

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theater. Like the front row,
like that whole section was mostly empty.

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There's always an odd duck that likes
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don't know if they just want to
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got to start doing that now.
It's it's in the back, that's in

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the front. You know, all
the notes you want. But yeah,

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no, it was pretty busy.
Like I was surprised when I was picking

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my seats and uh, you could
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Two's like it's it was pretty obvious
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to see this, and uh,
just the like the whole uh parking lot

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was just full honestly for the west
Side Theater because they have Anyone but you

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like Valentine's edition, Yes out that
Roum Comma Sydney Swinging also on VOD if

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you don't, and they also have
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pm tonight. So you were right, Yeah, I was. I was

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right. Anyone but you dn't is
just like extra. It's just like a

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little extra scenes, extra out takes, stuff like that. Nothing, nothing

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too key to it. But I
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as I just saw it yesterday and
I will refer back to it in the

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review later on Sony Sidney Sweeney.
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around Yeah, okay, that's it. Uh yeah, yeah, I'm huh.

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I mean yeah, no, I
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full than when we saw Awkaman,
because I feel like it was you,

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me, Taylor and five other people. Definitely more than I saw the Marvels.

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I'm trying to think. I guess
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flash because the flash was that that
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the numbers didn't do all but it's
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but yeah no, there were there
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then there was this moment right before
the movie started. There was like,

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for sure eight to ten kids that
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very back, so I look at
my side, the right side, and

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everyone just looks over and it's like, oh, fuck, we're gonna our

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time is about to be ruined.
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were there and actually laughed at the
jokes. I had a good crowd because

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I like seventy five percent of the
crowd was like me that knew what they

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were getting into. Maybe it was
I had a lot of youth in there,

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so maybe that was it. There
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that was there and their parents drove
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and then they walked back three rows
and talk to these adults and they were

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given money, and so I was
like, oh, that's kind of cute,

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you know, like that, that's
fun. You know, you're we're

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not gonna see men alone, but
you'll watch you. They're doing the James

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Franco on the date and everything like
that. I already bitch in this movie.

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I don't see it being a big
hit for kids. So It was

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all definitely middle school and up kids
like that sort of age, and I

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think it was in the sense of
laughing at it or having a good time

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with it, not actually enjoying it
as usual. I was alone, so

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I sat in the back. I
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at the theater tickets, there was
two people sitting right beside me, which

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I don't understand. I feel like
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I had to sit beside somebody,
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a person, because at least it's
not as awkward. You're like, oh,

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they're having fun, we're having fun, an other gifts and you're kissing.

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Maybe you was like right in the
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so it's right now. People want
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I guess. But sit at least
one over, at least leave a seatro

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you have to at least be in
the middle, or else you're just not

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gonna see anything. At Least sit
one seat in between us. But no,

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it was right beside, so I
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I moved aside. But yeah,
in the future, like sit with

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another couple. Maybe you talk,
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time, you get them going.
Maybe people are like, hey do you

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do you want a party? And
maybe you go back to your house,

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have a couple of drinks, and
maybe you learn like you enjoy double penetration.

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I don't know, but those are
what you could be missing out sit

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beside a couple, because you never
know what doors would be opened. Sitting

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beside the one person. I'm not
opening that door. And it was a

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seven year old couple who they were
in the twenty five percent of they were

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not in on the having a bad
time maybe or whatnot, So it was

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they seem a litt annoyed at times. I agree with you, Travis that

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they should have at least given you
an extra seat. But I still look

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at the bold move that if you're
going alone to be choosing dead center,

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Like if I go alone, I'm
never picking that dead center spot. I

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like today, I was off to
the right and I took the second from

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the edge because I feel like if
I take right at the edge, maybe

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like three people will go in like
right, and then I'm pinned to the

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side. I figured right there,
like like no one's gonna be taking that

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one seat, and then I feel
like most people wouldn't be wanting to be

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in between me and then other people, so I got lucky. I was

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alone in my little quick vicinity.
There's some people behind me, and then

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people like three three spots over to
my left, and then to the next

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section I guess over to the right. I had some people, but for

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the vast majority, I feel like
everybody was like enjoying the jokes that were

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supposed to hit other than me.
And I just felt like a bit of

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a goofball on this because there were
so many moments when I just couldn't help

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but laugh at, like just some
of the things that I was seeing,

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not not because it was funny,
just because it was so ridiculous that it

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made me just chuckle. And I
was trying to hold it in because I'm

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like, all these people are on
dates and I'm just the one guy dressed

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in like all Spider Man outfit.
They probably think my day just like bailed

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on me or something. Did you
just see a Spider Man outfit? Oh,

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I just got all my my gear
on, I got my swing Spider

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Man sweat. That was a risky
move to go alone in Spider Man gear.

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What you're doing over here, guy
representing? I'm represented being mud.

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There only people laughing at in our
theater and people, yeah, we're taking

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it pretty seriously. It seemed like, okay, I had a good crowd

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then I had definitely Maybe the young'ins
are just looking at that they're growing out

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with superhero movies, like all these
are stupid, you know? So have

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you guys seen the trailer for Tarot
is the first time I even heard about

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this movie, first time I'd ever
heard of it. And what shocked Tarot?

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Yeah, like you no, you
know, trailer man, this is

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up your aller. There was a
lot of maybe not a lot, but

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there's a handful of elderly people that
were like shocked that that trailer was on

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there, like what what do we
see? Like they're like gasping, just

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like how intense that trailer? It
was an intense trailer, like I wasn't

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expected. I want to see it
now for sure. It looks freaky best

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horror category of next years. Like
it actually looked good. I think a

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lot of practical effects and good imagery
and all good and all that, So

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I'm into it. Okay, I'll
add it to the list. Don't should

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people be adding this to the list
of what they should be seeing in twenty

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twenty four. Oh that's a tough
that's a tough question. I mean,

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I yeah, I'm so fresh out
of the theater here, I just walked

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up the street and I started talking
to you guys pretty much, so I'm

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still processing all of it. But
you know, I think for me,

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I think this was so bad it
was good. I had a really fun

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time with this movie. For that
reason. What Kirklam was mentioning, I

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was just laughing through this whole thing, and he gave me more laughs in

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like a comedy, you know.
Was was a lot of that intentional.

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No, some of it maybe even
was, but then it was just so

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cheesy that I got an extra chuckle
of how bad some of these lines were.

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Some really weird plot points that make
no sense. A lot. There's

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a lot of that in this movie. A lot of things that don't make

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any sense. Uh, And I
don't know, it went by pretty quick,

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like what is the I guess the
run time is it's like or something.

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Yeah, okay, so it's I
feel like I'm used every movie these

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days being like over two hours long. So I don't know. There's one

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one section for me that was like
the pacing was pretty savage and there wasn't

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really anything interesting funny happening. So
I was a little little dull for a

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bit there, But for the most
part I had fun, just like making

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fun of this stupid movie. Me
and MUD's constantly looking over at each other

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and chuckling at Like there's all sorts
of weird dubbing issues in this movie with

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characters and lip syncing, just so
many weird plot points that make no sense.

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So I I really had a great
time with it. I put it

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in that camp of like when we
saw The Predator, right is the name

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of that movie where the whole thing
or tomb Raider or even even venom one,

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Right, Like, it's in that
ballpark for me. So if I'm

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not going to recommend it as a
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Kombook movie, there's like only a
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and not even not even exaggerating,
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if you like these kind of so
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scripts and stupid plot points. It's
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Maybe you don't need to go to
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to support these Sony Verse make sure
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if you're into this kind of thing, watch it at home when it

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comes out. I think it.
I think it's I think it's worth it

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for me. Not that I'll ever
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viewing, I was thoroughly entertained,
which you know, you can't ask for

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much more than that of the movies, right mm hmm, Patroon producer Sam

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Grease for our next cast or,
I think if you're going alone and solo,

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you need to gather away a little
bit. No, I plant the

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flag, I take the mill and
say this is mine. Go away.

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But that's fine. Kirkham pats are
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this movie? I coming into this, I was gonna say, like,

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this is such a bad movie.
The writing is so bad. I do

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not recommend you see this. I
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that I've stewed on it a little
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is good for like one viewing,
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with friends then you'll get a good
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intention of rewatching this, even though
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just to like maybe reaffirm of what
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is just this is just so ridiculous
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here and even just some decisions to
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spoilers, but I yeah, I
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to be like obnoxious, because,
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was actually seemed to be like digging
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see a lot of movies, but
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we gonna do on Valentine's they just
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like they were laughing at all the
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trying to hold in my gut laughter
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r the fact that the character just
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I don't know, maybe they should
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thing. But nonetheless, it's almost
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except what I was thinking of.
That's what I was thinking of.

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He's not even really attempting to act
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I'm not gonna say who and what? But we had to sit and

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I get it. Movies are hard. That HAPs all the time. There's

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a scene our movie that we had
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got it's gone because the fire here
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it was so windy. So it's
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but so and so you gotta record
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worked that's the hardest part I've worked
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said, let's do these scenes with
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better just in case. And the
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this is like at least an anything
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like a couple hundred it's like no
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about this, And like I said, who knows what happens, right,

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who knows what happens in this edit. But there's definitely some uh dubbing issues.

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back in the day and you got
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and you're like, oh, well
this will do you know, like

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oh wat shit. But for a
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actually speaks Spanish and this is supposed
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like they just have a different character, like tell his voice. Maybe it's

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gonna be like a plot thing too, but like no, it's just it's

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just some weird edit thing. And
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think eighty million dollars. I think
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like this. Oh yeah, just
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we had and some of the writing
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quality of some of that and these
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it as I was watching this movie. I'm just like, I just think

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they shouldn't do origins, like like
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character, like there is a lot
of more expens that's probably why they're not

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doing it. I thought the same
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just have film all these Spider wm
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would have a bunch of action scenes
and powers. We got some papers in

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here, yeah, like we got
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yeah, that's that's a glimpse of
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going for So yeah, I'll just
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see it. Probably you can wait
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you hit the nail and head that. Yeah, definitely if you're not into

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this stuff. Even if you're into
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stuff, definitely wait for vo D
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I think there's other stuff even like
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or something, because I know some
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in theaters. But I think I
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a good so and Dil said this
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said the line of like no,
no, no, he did. Kirklin

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just I'm literally ripping when he said, like it's so bad, it's so

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good for a one time watch.
And that's the way where it's not one

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of those where it's like, oh, I'd love to get yeah, like

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I can't. He did, but
in a varied degree, you know,

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like there's a movie that I still
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say that. Dylan's also saying this
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Kyle and Liam absolutely love and one
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versus. It's called Knock Knock.
It's Keanu Reeves on Armis and some other

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people. Well, and it is
so bad. It's good. But that's

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when I could watch weekly because it's
just prime cinema. This not so much

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because there are sections where they're just
not fun or it's just very dull.

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This movie, even at one fifty
six, I think could have been shorter.

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I think there's a couple of subplots
you just take out, which feels

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odd to say that. And I
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I did. I mean, because
I was on I did check my phone

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at least four times and be like, Okay, how much do I got

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left here? Because I was feeling
it sometimes. So I'm trying my best

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this year overall to be more not
so like negative, not in the negative

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sense of like I'm gonna say something's
bad or not, but not be as

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harsh. So I don't even know
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I'm gonna do this on the next
trast told you of, like be like,

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oh, that's one of the worst
comic movies ever. I don't know

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if I can get there, but
I've never I haven't made a list in

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a long time, the top ten, so I'm not saying it's not there.

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I think the unfortunate thing is at
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but it's not funny, and that's
the bad thing. Or it's funny

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because like it's funny because it's so
bad here, right, But it just

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feels like, especially the last fifteen
minutes, the way things are framed,

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it feels like I've seen exact shots
on SNL and there's a punchline going on,

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but they just took it out,
So that's not good. I think

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our main lady leads. There's no
bad acting So that's why again i'd have

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to look at the worst com movies
because I think they're all trying hard and

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personally, I actually think Sidney Swing
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because anyone but you they give that
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very dry in that movie. At
least here, I don't know if I

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agree her playing like some sort of
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like that took me out of it. I just saw her play a woman

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in EUPHORIAUS. She's about like,
I don't know, that was kind of

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odd, like, oh, let's
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some glasses and like, oh,
she's sixteen against Like I don't know about

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that, but al right, I'll
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there. It's not that they're bad, it's just there's nothing here that I

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definitely want to return to. There's
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Guys already talked about the ADR.
There's some weird stuff. Dialogue in

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general is the classic Sony dialogue where
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but somehow worse, like it's just
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I don't understand multiple plot points and
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People give Game of Thrones last season
shit about fast travel. I don't know

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how you get to Peru in two
hours and back, but you know we're

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gonna get there. There's so many
things where it's just head scratching and what

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I will say, at least with
a steak. And this is not to

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be mean to the guy. I
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definitely think this villain is a is
a top ten all time bad kombook villain

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because not only just the like the
technical issues, the things they have them

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say, the things that make them
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Don't take my spiders is gonna be
burned in my head forever because is

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the gift I was talking about here
when I private message you and I'm like,

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I can't wait for gifts for this
movie. It's out of know when

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my spiders don't take my spiders?
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and even action shot choices this movie
looks ugly at times, like action

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sequence look like they had it zoomed
out and like, ah, this isn't

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good. Zoom it in times ten
and this will cover for it. I

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can't see what the fuck's going on, not all the time, but sometimes,

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and I think that's on purpose because
it probably wasn't good. So there's

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not much I can say here.
I think, yeah, if you're into

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this, definitely watch it with a
friend. Again, I would have preferred

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to seeing this with Emily or somebody
because I saw it Morvious and I had

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much more better time with that.
But even Morvius, I do agree to

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think there's there's higher Highs and Morvious
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a superhero film, at times it's
a thriller. At times it's trying to

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be a horror movie, but it
doesn't ever really make sense. It all

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just kind of comes off as type
of cheesy. My last line is I

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feel like when we talked about when
I was in school and I was liking

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wrestling, which that was another thing
in combook stuff. That's the loser geek

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stuff, right, And then we
talked about how like the past ten years,

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Avengers everything that was top the game, so it was cool to be

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a combook fan. I feel like
this is the type of movie that if

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someone watches and you say you're a
superhero fan, You're like, oh you

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watch that shit, like you're a
fucking loser. Like I feel this is

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the stuff that you would get picked
on for, like oh you like the

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Man Web. No, No,
I just want to Oh that's gross.

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You waste your like it. It
is the type of stuff that I said,

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like, this is really bad for
combat movies, and I we still

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got two more and I don't know
if they can be worse than this,

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but uh yeah, not not great, not not a good time in the

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cinema in the sense of like you
wanting to see the movie, but like

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is that surprising? It's like,
is what Sony does? You know?

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It's like I see these because of
the podcasts, and I still like seeing

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superhero stuff, like support it,
but I just feel like this is it's

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gonna be varying degrees of this as
until there's a massive seismic shift in producers.

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It's gonna be this. So buckle
up, you know, buckle up.

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Any they say non spoiler before we
go on, I don't think so.

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All right, We're gonna take our
spoilers. So if you if you

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do care and you don't want to
see it, come back at another time.

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It'll be there in the feeds.
You got the review feed all that

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good jazz. Check out a Drennonchrome
March Shift teenth. We're talking about that.

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There's a trailer out for that for
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our best. We'll be right back, and we are back. Where do

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we want to start with? Madam
Webb? Okay, that's it fund rating

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voice. I don't want to say
it, but do you want what do

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you want to go to? I
know Kirk started at the beginning as that's

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what I was going to say.
It's the Mother with the Amazon forests.

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Not great edit, not a great
opening. It's the it's about the spiders.

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They hit the in this movie.
They treat everything like you've never seen

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a spider movie before, so they
gotta explain, Oh, what are these

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spiders about? Super speed super It's
like we fucking know, like just say

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they're enhanced. But now they gotta
get the whole shebang, just like I'm

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skipping. But later on when which
I'm gonna just use Dylan as example here

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because he's the most recent one I
would have had this conversation with when Dylan

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and I I hate what you talked
those before I had. But when I'm

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talking, when I'm doing like oh
these Dan's a un cool, I'm talking

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and sayd who are you Day?
And he's like, what's her name?

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The way they try to make Aunt
May like this big, like oh fuck,

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who's he dad? And then he
never like she's special, like okay,

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but like what's he like? It
was the honest take they had Adam

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00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,279
Scott just like what's her name?
She's like just say May like it's just

406
00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:29,960
it's odd the way they're like,
what's the baby's name gonna be? Why

407
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:33,640
is this the thing my mom would
watch this and know, oh, that's

408
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,759
clearly gonna be Peter Parker. Why
is Emma Roberts, who leads multiple movies

409
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,599
like rom coms throughout years, Why
is she in this movie for ten minutes

410
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,920
as Mary Parker praying? But I
just hate like the spiders Uncle Ben and

411
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,319
Uncle Ben they do say Ben Parker, but like Aunt May Peter Parker,

412
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,559
like they all hide this stuff like
we don't know, like this is the

413
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:56,400
first time ever experiencing me spading.
We've had ten Spider Man, I don't

414
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,440
know, animated Spider Verse ones.
We've at least had ten Spider Man movies.

415
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,279
We know the drill, so just
say we're thinking at God have Peter.

416
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,559
Oh that's cute, but like I
guess the name, like I so

417
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,440
the stuff with the spiders and it
being all like GUESSI and whatnot, stupid

418
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:15,519
stupid stuff. Don't do it.
It's not it's not clever. It's not

419
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:22,000
clever. That's my mini ram.
Yeah, I agree. I thought all

420
00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:26,119
that usage was was very dumb,
and it was. It was corny and

421
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,319
cheesy, and I don't think like
it even was really working on my crowd.

422
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,960
I was saying, they're mostly into
it. There's no one like oh

423
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,240
yeah, like like bump and shoulders, like I know who he's talking about.

424
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,559
It just seemed to cut or sorry, it seemed it seemed rather wasteful

425
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:42,160
to like do that stuff because I
feel like beyond that, they don't really

426
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,960
try and like convince the viewer that
like this is this is the same Spider

427
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,319
Man universe that you know in love
like like it just seems like its own

428
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,559
story, So like why even do
that stuff? And I don't think there's

429
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,200
any like like it's all like Oscorp
is like relevant in this mood, like

430
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,519
like there's not other major like Spider
Man and ties. I think, so

431
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:07,200
to just like dance around like that
stuff, Like why even have like the

432
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,720
pregnancy go on, Like you don't
need that extra variable that goes on in

433
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,279
that scene because when it gets down
to it and you have Ezekiel Sims like

434
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:19,759
about to basically murder the three girls, Ben Parker, uh future Peter Parker

435
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:23,640
and his mother, like after that
moment, it just goes with the with

436
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,880
our main characters and then like they're
just stuck there at like times square with

437
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,759
with her like in the middle of
labor. It's like there's no consequence,

438
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,880
it seems, and then by the
end it's just like here's the baby.

439
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,720
Oh my gosh. Yeah, Mary
and Ben Parker have seen an evil Spider

440
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:41,880
Man already, so it's over for
you. Like there you know that they

441
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,319
know that. Yeah, it's literally
that meme when you're this is like when

442
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,519
your son turns out to be a
Spider Man and you don't know it,

443
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:51,079
it's over for you. And they
didn't even do something cool like everyone theorizes

444
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,000
like, oh, this baby's Peter
Parker and it's gonna get killed. They

445
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,200
didn't. They just put it in
there for like lame fan service stuff,

446
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:03,359
you know. Yeah, I guess
they like trying to draw some symmetry between

447
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,880
her upbringing and the time of her
mother's death with like this pregnancy and how

448
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,119
things have changed this time and the
mother survives. I guess that's maybe what

449
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,119
they were going for, but it
didn't really feel like it needed to be

450
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,119
in there. I guess I'm not
as bothered by this subplot as you guys

451
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,920
were. I think maybe because it
was such a small part of the movie.

452
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:25,640
But I was even surprised, like
even for that, I thought Adam

453
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,559
Scott would be in this way less
than he was. Not that he has

454
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:32,799
a ton of screen time, but
since we take a while of just like

455
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:34,720
her being a paramedic like that,
we spend a lot more time doing that

456
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,160
than I even thought. Oh god, the fact that he's there in like

457
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,920
the final action sequencing, but if
he's not at that one building and then

458
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,480
they're in the hospital the end,
So we got more of him than I

459
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:49,000
thought. And I actually liked the
chemistry between those two. Yeah, that

460
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:52,799
was fine. I didn't have a
problem with that. There is galog issues

461
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,000
of course, like that once and
you mentioned and other stuff, especially when

462
00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:59,880
she goes to, uh, I
guess May's house and that whole like birth,

463
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,079
why is she there? It's really
weird. It's weird because I would

464
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,880
understand if this was like Ben,
which I wasn't. When they were talking

465
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,480
about like who you're dating, were
they inferring that Ben and Cassandra had been

466
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,519
together before, like they were an
item before or not. I don't think

467
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:21,759
so. I don't think it's really
he wasn't dropping the name because this is

468
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:23,200
different. This is like, yeah, I'm gonna be the one, you

469
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,480
know, And then it's like,
I'm so happy for you, buddy.

470
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,960
They're that kind of friends that he
is inviting her to his sister in law's

471
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,200
baby shower. That feels like the
most oddest setup ever. I'd understand who

472
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,079
it was his kid. I'm like, hey, my wife and I are

473
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:42,039
having a kid, but like it's
my sister in the relationship that that's the

474
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,799
he's mentioning her h to his good
friend Cassie there. I agree. So

475
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,880
it's it's odd that she comes to
that. But there's just even again with

476
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,759
the East egg stuff. One of
the first things Madame Webb says to Ben

477
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,720
Parker is they're going back and forth
in the ambulance, it's like, what

478
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,359
you don't want to get shot New
York, like just find like, oh

479
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,720
yeah, we get it, Ben
Parker in a couple of years is gonna

480
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,119
get shot. Very funny, Like
it's just that that's where there's just south

481
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,279
throughout they kept like trying like doing
the whole shoulder bump, and I guess

482
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,559
it just bugged me just because what
it felt like is how we have these

483
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:22,119
not rumors Superman and Batman going public
domain in like a decade. It reminds

484
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,640
me of that where it's like there's
certain aspects of Spider Man they're allowed to

485
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,079
use but not so it's why they're
like, well they're gonna say it,

486
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,799
but not say it, Like you
could allude to the Joker, but you

487
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,359
can't say the word joker. So
maybe it was just me being nickpicky,

488
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,160
but it was just maybe it's that
starting of her saying, hey, yeah,

489
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,400
you're gonna get like you don't get
shaw New York. It's like,

490
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,640
okay, I get it. I
think I think also like just any any

491
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,319
little like cheesy one liners, like
referencing like a Spider person throughout this like

492
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:52,880
not not even just because of our
spider person villain, but more so just

493
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,720
like, uh, when like Peter's
mom, which, what's the mom's name?

494
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,079
What's Richard? Mary? Mary?
So Mary Parker when Mary has like

495
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,799
the baby's like, oh, he's
leaping around in there, and just like

496
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:07,880
like that she said it, like
it's like, oh, he's swinging around

497
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,519
with webs, like in there us
is a web. It's crazy. It

498
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,119
was just like a spider. I
rolled my eyes in all those moments,

499
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,839
and like it just was so unnecessary, Like I think this would have works

500
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,920
well, there's a lot of things
that could have changed to make this just

501
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,079
a lot more of a refined story
overall, and just a better written tale.

502
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,240
You gotta take this brick by brick, though. I don't think there's

503
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,759
things you could change. I think
you literally have to do like the whole

504
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,680
Yeah, like let's start from square
one again, like keep the actresses and

505
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,599
whatnot, like keep the talent again. I'm still surprisedly, like I wonder

506
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,559
if Emma Roberts got cut, because
I just feel like it was strange for

507
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,400
her to be not that she's a
big time actress, but she's bigger than

508
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,319
like a seven minute cameo and like
like maybe I guess maybe the idea is

509
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,640
they have this because maybe there's a
sequel. It would be like her with

510
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,559
Little Peter. I don't know,
is that the idea of like if she

511
00:29:55,599 --> 00:30:00,599
can she's not cunning, then we're
coming back. And maybe maybe she knew

512
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,880
like, Okay, Dakota Johnson is
attached to this and it's like, oh,

513
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,319
it's like a women led like superhero
thing, and maybe she in the

514
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,400
MCU. Yeah. I mean they
probably lied to her about that too.

515
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240
You're gonna get to be with Chris
Evans in the next one or something they

516
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:15,839
did. I remember there was this
trending tweet last week, bring the tweets

517
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:18,359
back, We're both Sidney Sweet and
Dakota Johnson. They got an announced to

518
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,759
the cast on Instagram. They tagged
Sony Pictures and they tagged Marvel's Studios.

519
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,400
And there was this legit story that
came out that Madam Webb, when the

520
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,880
trailer came out the next day,
Dakota Johnson dropped her town agency and went

521
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,839
with somebody else. Now that could
just be a coincidence, but I do

522
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,079
think a lot of these people did
think they were in that universe and then

523
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:41,440
they clearly found out that no,
we're not. Especially we heard about those

524
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,000
reshoots of them taking out like certain
spider stuff, right, alluding to other

525
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,440
things like we have told them that
that was not the case, though,

526
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,839
Like how how oblivious are they?
They don't. I think if they got

527
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:53,160
a good enough agent that's trying to
get a check, can be pretty oblivity.

528
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,839
It's like, oh no, they're
gonna connect, trust me, like

529
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,319
Tom, Tom does both he's in
so like it's gonna like, I guarantee

530
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,880
they fucking they wet their wheels.
I don't know if that's an expression,

531
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,960
but they oil them autom Yeah.
But yeah. The beginning very rapid,

532
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,759
very this mom she's trying to get
power. She wants the Spider to heal

533
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:18,200
people. So we get introduced this
very big CGI spider that gets captured off

534
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,799
screen. Very odd choice. It's
literally I'm looking for the Spider as Ego

535
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,839
go somewhere else. I found the
spider odd editing, and then Ezekiel just

536
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,359
pulls out a gun and starts going
warzone and everybody. And then just like

537
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:36,400
I understand the needs a spider,
but I don't understand why he wrestles for

538
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,319
it, like just knee Kapper,
like it's a very awkward situation. They're

539
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:44,440
doing some very like I think Zach
Sander does it really well. They're doing

540
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,480
the weird Zack Snay Michael Bay thing
where it's like it's in a shot and

541
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,720
they like zoom in like really cool, like they do this only like the

542
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,039
beginning and the end did not like
that at all. Was very off putting

543
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,279
by this choice, So the entire
opening was a bad taste in my mouth.

544
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,680
There's some weird stuff there too,
where like in the first sequence,

545
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:05,279
now maybe Ezekiel's just like holding back
this info that he knows, but it

546
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,480
seems like he doesn't really know,
Like it seems like he just is like

547
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:12,480
a hired gun here and he's helping
out this back to camp and he's rightfully

548
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:15,640
through papers, and it seems like
that's the moment when he learns what these

549
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,000
spiders are doing. But then in
like the dialogue sequence after that, he's

550
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,799
like talking about how he needs this
power because he's looking for years. Yeah

551
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:24,839
he's been, so I got very
confused, like why was he rightfully through

552
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,319
the papers? I gues suppose he
maybe trying to find a picture of what

553
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:30,759
the spider is supposed to look like, yeah, she knew more than him,

554
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:34,119
I guess go track one down himself, and then she showed up.

555
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,279
But my god, that that attempt
to add like backstory for him is one

556
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:43,799
of the laziest things, like pieces
of writing I've ever seen for any movie

557
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,279
ever where. Just like in the
middle of this altercation, he's like,

558
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:47,880
oh, well, I grew up
poor, and I grew up with a

559
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,000
like I had a really hard upbringing. And he's just saying all these things,

560
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:53,920
right. It's like, really,
that's the best you can do to

561
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,480
make make us have sympathy for this
villain. But it's like it also comes

562
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,400
way too fast because he's already killed
like innocent people and he's about to kill

563
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,880
this other lady who we are you
know, if there's anyone who care about

564
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,319
in this opening sequence, it's her. So it's like, okay, you

565
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,799
think that little line line of sympathy
that we don't see any of that,

566
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:14,559
it's just him telling us a couple
of these little details. It's it's so

567
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:20,160
lazy. It's the same thing I
could not stand that Winnie had he had

568
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,640
the dreams, right, which I
got questions about this later, But to

569
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,960
his assistant to Madam Webb. It'll
be like, well, I need to

570
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,720
kill these girls because in the future
they kill me, and I swear I

571
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,839
would get drunk if I took a
shot. He every time I said,

572
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,720
and they're gonna get powers because they
both the ladies, why do you need

573
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,279
to do this? And his answers, well, they're gonna get powers.

574
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:44,359
But it's just like you've not established
I thought the movie would at least do

575
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440
that, of show some version where
these women are bad and do something,

576
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,200
and that's his pitch of like you
don't want them to get powers because they

577
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,400
do X, Y and Z,
and he could be lying whatever, but

578
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,240
his answer is always like they're gonna
kill me and they're gonna get powers,

579
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,920
so like why should we not let
them get the powers? Why should we

580
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,240
not let them kill you? Like
what any And then nothing happens. He

581
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,400
just will always say that and be
like, well, I'm coming for you,

582
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,000
Like I don't understand what his pitch
was about them getting powers is why

583
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,199
we have to take him out?
And I guess it's just like there's no

584
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,400
not like I know. I guess
I just would rather all be bad like

585
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:20,000
him, just be purely bad.
And I feel like they were trying.

586
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,440
Like you said, he with the
backstory, just make it that guy wants

587
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,000
to be powerful. Because if you're
gonna give him lackluster writing and not make

588
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,119
him a villain, that woe care
about. I'll just go for like the

589
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,920
evil bad guy. I think you
need either a better actor a better dialogue,

590
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,519
because none of the stuff was working
for me with him at all.

591
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:38,280
He wasn't scary. I wasn't intrigued
by him anytime he was on I don't

592
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,079
want to use the word but like
I won't say cringe, but unsettled.

593
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,920
Anytime he was on screening on the
Good Way, I was not. I

594
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,559
wish I had a fast forward,
But all those scenes with him and the

595
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,559
secretary or the apprentice late or whatever, that those weren't there the end.

596
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,320
Do you think skipping to the end, Like, what do you think she

597
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,519
does after all this? She probably
finds out that he died. Yeah,

598
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:01,920
I guess she just ransacks his hotel
and run. But she was there for

599
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,239
the papers, didn't she a spider
Now there's probably some postcred scene they cut

600
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:13,920
somewhere and she's some Spider Man woman
villain. She's like scream or some Spider

601
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,079
Man woman. Yeah, so I
don't know, but they shot those all

602
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,840
on a day because she was it'd
been multiple days and her hair was the

603
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,199
same. She's wearing the same outfit, so she's just what sitting stinky in

604
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:29,519
this chair for a week looking for
these people. Yeah, maybe there was

605
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:34,400
an other Sorry, just one last
point here, Kirk, because it's once

606
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,960
again so I kind of unclear what
Ezekiel feels about the mother character, because

607
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,440
it doesn't really seem like he cares
about her all. It's more just like

608
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,400
he just wants the Spider and none
of this other stuff really matters. But

609
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,480
then he also hates her randomly the
same like, because there's a line in

610
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,199
the lot that is skipping to the
final action scene when he's going down again,

611
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,519
he's going against Cassie and he's like, you're just like your mother.

612
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,440
It's like, what does that even
mean in this context? I know,

613
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,920
like, does does he hate the
mother? And what does she the mother?

614
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,400
It's just it's just one of those
generic lines that they threw in there

615
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,400
because he has he knew who who
she was, but it didn't really make

616
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:13,280
any sense. And her response is
you thought your future was them it's me

617
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:20,119
this guy for years has been but
like he is. It's not like there's

618
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,719
some twists that she's manipulating him.
He's generally been having visions about these three

619
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,280
girls killing him. Like he's not
wrong, like that is his future.

620
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,199
It's you change the future. It's
just the whole dialogue there that feels like

621
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:37,159
there was some reshot or cut out
stuff there. I don't know. Yeah,

622
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,440
I absolutely despise this villain. I
think he's so forgettable and it's not

623
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:45,880
even like like, yeah, there
is no redeeming qualities for him because he's

624
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,639
just He's just he kills a pregnant
woman, he's super selfish. He just

625
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,280
wants these powers. They never really
talk about like what he would get from

626
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:59,280
the powers. I guess he's just
powerful. He's just Spider Man. We

627
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,320
don't have that. Oh God,
and the land. Yeah remember now that

628
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:07,119
there's like a whole island of Spider
Man's great Yeah. Yeah, Peter Parker

629
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,079
so special now you know, there's
a fucking caught it. Some of the

630
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,320
hundreds of Spire people now though they
don't have their there. What what the

631
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:22,360
fuck was going on there? Like
the power up into Yeah, why did

632
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719
thirty years ago. They look like
the guys from Peter Jackson's King Kong,

633
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,159
and then when Madam Webb meets them, they're looking like fucking I don't know

634
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,000
male models that are working for Tom
four. He has like he's I just

635
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,039
finished the Fall shoot, Like what
happened here? Yeah? Like like I

636
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:43,800
get someone to say, well,
frames was thirty years ago, it was

637
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,719
the seventies. Why are they trying
to say these people were like cave man?

638
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,239
I don't know, odd odd so
So back to Ezekiel, uh yeah,

639
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,159
Like I like he has no redeeming
qualities and he's not even menacine like

640
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,119
like like all throughout the whole movie, he's just trying to get these teenagers

641
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,280
because he's terrified that they're gonna murder
him at some point in time. And

642
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,760
it's it's never like he's he knows
he's so powerful, it doesn't matter,

643
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,199
like what's gonna happen, Like he's
gonna be able to kick their asses.

644
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,719
He's just like so on the back
foot, and he never really seems like

645
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,880
he has the one up on on
on anyone at any point, Like he's

646
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,880
always kind of just reactive. I
guess, like like he's supposed to be,

647
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:22,840
like you said, try, I
was like Spider Man, like,

648
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,760
how many times is he gett hit
by a fucking car in this movie?

649
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,960
Almost like God again, like he
didn't get that Spider sense. And I

650
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,079
did not like his his outfit either, like in the movie. I feel

651
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,199
like in the trailer I was I
was undecided on how I felt just across

652
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,840
the board on the outfits. I
feel like, uh, Juliet carp or

653
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,039
I guess Julie Cornwall like her outfit
in this was was the one that I

654
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,400
was. I was the most intrigued
him, just because, like, way

655
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,119
back, way back before we even
got this movie, I always wanted,

656
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,239
you know, I thought Sidney Sweet
would be a great Julie Carpenter character.

657
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,920
And what we got on the trailer, I'm like, maybe that's a good

658
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,639
look, But in the movie,
I am so not a fan of it

659
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,719
at all. I do not like
the mask at all. I feel like,

660
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,480
you gotta have the the full white
eyes firmx. She doesn't even have

661
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:14,639
a mask. It's just like these
little like strands on her face, Like

662
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,119
oh, if she had the better
eyes, then he wouldn't be able to

663
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:20,719
use that tracking technology to find her. Oh my god, this is what

664
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,920
they look like, so coding to
what you say from your visions. This

665
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,440
is what they look like. Complete, it's perfect, perfect, Like literally,

666
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:30,159
it's taking a picture of the actresses
and then they're like, and this

667
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,280
is what they might look like ten
years younger. It's just the same picture,

668
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,280
but the masks are off, like
they don't look any younger or older.

669
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,480
Like in that aspect, they should
have got older actresses to play the

670
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:44,360
spider women. They're teenagers and they
like are aging, and we're like yes

671
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,960
at that point, but they just
looked the same. And it was just

672
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,079
so fu there's so much younger than
what I was expected. It's like they

673
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,199
looked the exact same, but they
just didn't didn't tell me. Kids like

674
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,320
her one line of sympathy and we're
like, oh, maybe she's on the

675
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,320
edge of this, and then just
never mentions again. Well he has an

676
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,239
answer, he says, but these
girls are gonna have powers one day,

677
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,840
but that oh, yeah, we
gotta kill them. You're right, But

678
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:13,920
see, I I was fine.
I can't judge the outfits because it was

679
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,079
the way they were shot. I
don't mind her not having the eye holes

680
00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:20,320
because it's like the Batman thing where
you think it's good until you see it

681
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,119
and you go, oh, like
now they just look like a dummy that

682
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,480
can't move right. So I'm fine
with seeing Sidney Sweety's eyes. I just

683
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,000
feel like with the especially when he
had that vision of him waking up,

684
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:31,400
where's my spiders? What do you
do with my spiders? And it's just

685
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,880
him getting thrown around the room.
The amount of just seeing bodies like move

686
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,199
and like hair and stuff like and
powers, I couldn't. I would just

687
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,039
love, like, can you just
zoom out, get all the filters off

688
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,639
the screen, just have Sidney stand
there and let me see the suit.

689
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,920
So I can't even clarify to me
for me if it was good or not

690
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,719
because the camera fuckery they are doing
with it made it look really poor.

691
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,800
Everything really poor. You know.
Last shot of the movie is like the

692
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,559
most clear that you see everybody's outfits, I I guess. And and again

693
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:05,280
like just even like the body detail, I I just wasn't really a fan

694
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
of I even like our other characters, like they just seem plastic key and

695
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:12,639
again that like he didn't like you
didn't see Anya's outfit, Like, yeah,

696
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,280
was the most obscure. I never
really Yeah, and what you didn't

697
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:21,559
like Madam web ski mask fun,
she's just playing with her spider like the

698
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:24,639
best fight about the future. It
hasn't happened yet. Yeah, it's like,

699
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,239
yeah, it's not gonna happen still, Like I forget what her name

700
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,679
was, but the yeah with the
iron spiders, Iron Spiders, Yeah,

701
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,119
like they're like and I don't even
mind the spider, the Madam web costume.

702
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,800
I know that Madam Webbs and the
comic books does have like the bigger

703
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,119
things, but it's like, as
we've said, as we talked about with

704
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:46,960
Wilkona Forever, right when you got
those blue Angel things, there are just

705
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,119
some things in general in comic book
live action that just don't look good.

706
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,159
You just don't do them. And
those to me literally just look like Kirk

707
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,960
like look like a new pair of
ski masks, Like that's what it looked

708
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,880
like. It did not look like
some cool futuristic like goggles from Madam Webb.

709
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,519
It just looked like they went to
a fucking Walmart. Oh, get

710
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:07,440
a red and pink one. Perfect, they put those on the Dakota,

711
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:13,840
Okay, sure and get the shot. It was not great, not great,

712
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,880
No, not great, And we
said everybody that I've talked to that

713
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,920
was like, no, coutumes are
gonna be in it more fuck all you

714
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:23,559
we knew it was gonna be in
here so little, like like I don't

715
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:28,960
even know me and Tyror and uh
Dylan did prediction cast. I'd have to

716
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,880
get the times, but I feel
like we were all over I could have

717
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:36,960
to get it. I was at
like ten minutes or more ten minutes too.

718
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:38,840
You were the lowest, but you
still more than that. I think,

719
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:42,199
Oh, I have to find I
don't know, I know. I

720
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,400
wrote a miniwhere yeah, a minute
and a half something like that, like

721
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:52,239
it was not surprised that they never
really had those powers by the by the

722
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,920
movies in that's like not even a
thing that's really occurring, but in the

723
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,719
future it hasn't happened yet. Finished
a thought on on a Zecul because I

724
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,039
don't think much more on his costume. I I didn't like the glass the

725
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,119
eye part of his because that to
me felt like okay, ski mask and

726
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,800
the like actual whatever helmet part over
top of it, but like just the

727
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,519
eyes looked really bad to me.
I thought that the rest of it looked

728
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:19,960
fine, but it wasn't anything specialized. I thought his voice line sounded the

729
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,079
best though. When he had the
mask on, you can't see him.

730
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,280
And there was a moment like at
the end when he's when he's fighting Cassie

731
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,599
and he like takes he's like saying
lines and he takes the mask off and

732
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:32,320
like the dumping is off. I'm
like, what the fuck were they doing

733
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,760
with with like this mass choice,
Like, man, just have a mask

734
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,280
the entire time, but I don't
trying to show the actor. It was

735
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,719
strange too when he like slept with
that lady, which that was odd scene

736
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,639
too, was so strange. Oh
that's like they tried to like lamp shade

737
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,239
up by her being like what an
icebreaker, but it was like still fucking

738
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,559
weird. But he it was strange
because he had his back to the camera

739
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,719
and like it started regular dialogue and
then half of it was ADR and then

740
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,599
went back to regular dialogue, and
the problem was like it was all different

741
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,360
volumes. So it's just like I
don't know if I've seen that. I've

742
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,320
seen time where it's like a scene
of ADR, they switch come back to

743
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,400
that scene and that's regular voice.
But this was one take, and it

744
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,519
was like back and forth between the
two. And it's almost like he chose

745
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:22,800
a different accent for the adr because
at times he would sound very much not

746
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,320
English or American, the other times
he sounds more American. So I really

747
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960
don't know what's going on there.
It's not a good I wish they just

748
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:35,599
chose a more evil, just entity, and just he was just bad and

749
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,360
also too is odd. I never
understood when he decided to put on the

750
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:44,440
spider suit and when he didn't,
because he starts in the subway and he's

751
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:46,599
just himself and I get in the
com books he doesn't wear shoes, but

752
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:50,679
it's weird in this movie does wear
shoes. And then so he's in the

753
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,679
subway and he's on the train right
and the whole thing is madw Web sees

754
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,440
this vision of the girls goes okay, may I saved them, which actually

755
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:59,360
that's probably some of the highlight stuff. Is like that close to found destination,

756
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,559
like there was something there. I
think you could have had fun with

757
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,960
it either way. She sees these
girls are gonna get killed, right,

758
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,119
gets them out of the subway.
You see Ezekiel, who she's been seeing

759
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:10,079
on the train, and he's like
running and it's just him, and then

760
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:14,280
give it about ten seconds and they
look, Louke, what's that. He's

761
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,480
crawling on the roof, but he's
in a Spiderman outfit. I don't understood

762
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:21,239
why he put that on, because
his plan was still to kill them in

763
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:27,679
the subway with no mask. So
either just keep that off or path the

764
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,360
mask on. Like, I didn't
understand why he changed. And that's why

765
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,920
I wasn't sure if there was reshoots
and that was a mix because I never

766
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:38,199
understood why he needed the costume because
it didn't look like he was hiding his

767
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,880
identity. I would understand him.
Ezekiel sims, I'm a businessman. Don't

768
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,639
want to need the suit to like
crawl on the walls. Yes, Like

769
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,719
if that is it, I guess
that's that would be the situation. But

770
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,719
yeah, it's like if you're going
on a mission, you just wear it

771
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,960
the whole time. Yeah. Suit
up a whole lot more sense and very

772
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,639
frustrating plot armor. How he would
see the girls in the visions, he

773
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:04,159
would kill him right away, but
in real time he'd be focused on everybody

774
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:07,800
else. He's hitting regular strangers,
he's taking out cars, random people.

775
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,559
Yeah, and it's like none of
these people have anything to do, like

776
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:14,320
just crawl away from them, run
and get the girls. There's times he's

777
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,000
active ruin that he rocked in the
Amazon, Like why isn't he Why doesn't

778
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,000
he? Yeah, he should have
or he's a really good accuracy, So

779
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:23,480
I feel like that would help him
a lot too. Unfortunately, just says

780
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,760
that weakness to cars, you know, he just gets hit out bunch.

781
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,039
Yeah yeah, so but yeah.
Another element that that was a weird choice

782
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:37,199
with his character was that as far
as I'm like, I trust what this

783
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,320
guy in the Amazon was saying because
everything he said seemed to be accurate one

784
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,119
hundred percent? Which guy he really
is, like the guy that she went

785
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,199
back to when her when she visits
Peru and he like okay, yeah,

786
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,280
okay, so the good Spider person. Okay, yeah, he understand everything

787
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,559
is everything he says seems to be
like almost a hundred percent accurate, So

788
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:55,159
I have to take him at his
word. So if that's the case,

789
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:58,920
we have to believe that Ezekiela is
cursed. That's what he said. He

790
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,199
said, he is cursed, Yes, his curses in this in this universe

791
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,639
here, So like I guess he
has the spider bite, so it's giving

792
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,960
him obviously the strength powers the crawling
on the walls, but it's also giving

793
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:15,679
him a bit of that clairvoyant like
seeing the future stuff. But like it

794
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,440
seems like he I guess he's only
seeing just that one vision over and over

795
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,360
again and not other ones. So
is that the curse part? Uh if?

796
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,559
I guess I'm curious why the curse
gives him any sort of powers to

797
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,000
see the future at all, like
I feel like it would, But what

798
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:36,280
is the curse? Like a curse
would insinuate something bad is gonna happen to

799
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,559
you? Right? And is the
bad thing is that he can just see

800
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:42,119
his death. I think it's just
he's gonna die. I think that's more

801
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,840
so, Well, we're all gonna
die, we're all cursed. Then he's

802
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,800
gonna get murdered. Then maybe that's
what it is because he took the spider

803
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,760
so then that that's like knock down
those dominoes that eventually it's gonna come back.

804
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,599
You got Cassie that's gonna give her
her Spider girls these powers and they're

805
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,159
gonna come fuck him up at some
point that happens like let's say we're podcasting

806
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:07,000
in person, I kill Kirkland and
then the cops later on kill me.

807
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:08,960
In the same well, Trastle was
cursed because he killed Chris, Like no,

808
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:13,440
like I committed a crime, Like
I like, I guess you're they're

809
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,079
trying to say karma is his curse, but like I was looking and again

810
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,800
when they say his curse, like
Okay, maybe they're gonna explain why he

811
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,760
really needs to kill these girls or
like why is it so important to keep

812
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,840
him alive? But they don't.
So I just never understood the curse of

813
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,079
Like I guess it's gonna come back
to bite him, But I wouldn't think

814
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:31,280
that would be cursed. That's just
like, it's just that's just karma.

815
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,480
Is there like an idea here that
maybe, uh, if you really zoom

816
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:37,280
in on those shits, like they
would have made this more obvious. But

817
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,199
I feel like in that shot that
we see of like his in his bedroom

818
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,480
when they are attacking him, yeah, like maybe it would have made sense

819
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,360
if like Madame Wibb was like floating
outside the window and was like, you

820
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,039
know, watching this whole thing unfold
and giving them tips and telling them future

821
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:52,800
and helping them do that thing.
Yes, and then that would be like

822
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,519
his clue of like, oh he
he couldn't in his dreams, he never

823
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,880
saw her and decided, Oh,
that's the person need to go after.

824
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,440
I need to go after these spider
people. Like I feel like that maybe

825
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,559
would have made a bit more sense, but I just don't understand, like

826
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,679
in terms of okay, this,
I feel like his something about his powers

827
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,280
and his instincts are trying to keep
him alive by giving him this vision prevent

828
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,039
this thing from happening. But then
he doesn't have like any other vision.

829
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:20,360
So is the curse that he just
is cursed with his one vision that's like

830
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,000
clouding his judgment, which brought upon
his death sooner because he at least had

831
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:28,440
like another ten years if you were
just sat and waited exactly. Yeah,

832
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,400
So, and yeah, I feel
like we didn't really get that. We

833
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,960
just got the ambiguous he's cursed because
he stole this spider that set up with

834
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:38,559
there, So like it would have
made so much more sense if they if

835
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:43,719
they led into like like this toxin
that he gives other people's is like killing

836
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,920
him slowly, and like like that's
the curse or something along those lines,

837
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,199
because yes, I agree with you. I think that the curse line is

838
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,599
just it's just such a throwaway that
has like no real meaning to it overall

839
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:58,599
with the story, because like Travisy
laid out, if he just chilled on

840
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:00,239
his couch, he'd be still You'd
still be kicking, like like you would

841
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,679
have so many more years ahead of
them. Oh yeah, these ladies would

842
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,519
have to grow up naturally. But
to get the point to come assassinating because

843
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:09,440
when they come for him, he's
like a gray old man. He's he's

844
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:15,400
got like a big beard. Obviously
he's not frail. It seem the scene

845
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,559
they would change, Yeah, they're
kind of all over with that. But

846
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:23,480
yeah, instead he decided dying some
like firework explosion or something. I don't

847
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:28,440
know. But well, technically the
giant pee smashed into him, which I'm

848
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,199
like, what is the is that
like supposed to be here comes Peter look

849
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,519
at But then it was the p
that was the letter that crushed him,

850
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,079
So I don't know what the meaning
of that is. Well, we'll take

851
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:42,719
an ad break and we'll she keeps
trying to figure out the curse, or

852
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,360
we won't. We were back and
we're back watch the Curse on Showtime.

853
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,679
That's a better curse. And there's
a show where I still't know exactly what

854
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,159
the curse is, but much more
fulfilling, you know, this, not

855
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:55,239
not as much, but yeah,
no, I'm trying to think if there's

856
00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:00,639
anything else on ezek Yo. Yeah, there wasn't much. Like I didn't.

857
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,760
I liked the brutality they gave him
in the visions of killing people.

858
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,960
I appreciated that. Like I said, it didn't make much sense otherwise it

859
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:13,360
seemed like a pretty dumb villain.
I did like the aspects of making a

860
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,239
Spider Man esque character, kind of
a villain. When it's like he'd appear

861
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,039
in the Shadows or his movie and
it's like, oh, that is cool.

862
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:22,119
It's like the idea of like,
what you were a villain? Spider

863
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:24,559
Man's after you. They have this
one cool shot where he's running on the

864
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:29,280
side of a glass building. So
there's cool like imagery stuff they do with

865
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,280
him. It's just that him and
his actions and everything in between doesn't really

866
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,760
work for me. But uh yeah, And I thought the costume was fine,

867
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,079
like from Afar. But again I
think I couldn't enjoy because I never

868
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:43,880
understood when and why it was important? You know. So I'm like,

869
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,719
why does he even own this costume? Like what is he doing? What

870
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,360
is it? What is Ezekiel Simms
doing before all this happens? What is

871
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,880
he? He's just this businessman,
I assume because he's rich and as his

872
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,199
money. Right. Yeah, another
point of maybe half from him is that

873
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,320
he was born in like a less
priva household or whatever family and then he

874
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,320
rose to riches. But we yeah, we don't really get to see what

875
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,400
that journey is, not that I
really want to, but and like again

876
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,800
it's a dumb question, but why
do you have his suit? What do

877
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,519
you need to suit for? Ever? Yeah, I don't know, so

878
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:19,159
you can do this doesn't make sense. But yeah, even like in that

879
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,039
train sequence when he's like taking on
all those cops like pretty easy, like

880
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:25,119
he was he was really quick at
that. He was really good at that.

881
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,920
Yes, if he done done,
don't I killed the people after instead

882
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,480
of these cops and other cops and
they're like guns and that's a thing you

883
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,039
gotta be worried about. But like, sorry, you hit Sidney Sweeny once

884
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:40,599
she's done, even Madam Webb,
she's still like you're good to go,

885
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,000
but he wasn't doing that at this
point, hasn't been at the end when

886
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,199
she can like multiply herself and get
these powers. It's he is literally like

887
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,519
Jason Borehies Michael Myers, but with
speed. He gets to somebody and he's

888
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:53,960
one hit killed on them. So
it's just like, why is he not

889
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,320
like being Bamboo. He's killed all
other random people, but he doesn't want

890
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,199
Webb to be one of those random
plot Maybe that's yeah, and that's oh

891
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,840
man, when she's blessed and he's
cursed. That's another thing. I just

892
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,320
thought, hang on Kurvey for you
because I'm gonna forget about it, because

893
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,119
I was gonna put my notes when
Madam Webb has these visions on the train

894
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,159
and gonna kill the guy and they
escape me. Of course, the news,

895
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:19,800
which is another stupid sub plot of
she's kidnapped these girls, no one

896
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,800
cares whatever, somehow in the Daily
Bugle, like a couple hours later,

897
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:29,320
it's already in the newspaper. So
that was odd. That was probably the

898
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,679
most wild uh plot hole in this
whole movie, and in two thousand and

899
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,360
three as well. Remember to read
it's not modern day but then random diner,

900
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,079
like not in the middle of New
York at a newstand. And so

901
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:43,840
both Madam Webb and Zeko do two
things that make zero sense in the same

902
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,800
within five minutes. She goes,
all right, I'm gonna drop you off

903
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,760
all your friends and families, and
it's your problems, the deal. Clearly

904
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,599
you're having visions and clear this is
superhuman. I don't understand why you would

905
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:57,880
just feel like dropping you off somewhere. That's what you're gonna do. Like

906
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,840
it made she made the choice to
save them at this point, just have

907
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,239
Madame Webb be in. And then
Ezekiel, the assistant goes, hey,

908
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,760
I can't find those girls, but
I know this is Cassandra. She's a

909
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,880
paramedic addizer. I don't care about
the girl, get me the three ones.

910
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,079
She just saved those three girls.
You just saw her run away with

911
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:17,960
Cassandra. Clearly that would be an
important character be like, oh fuck,

912
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:21,559
if we can get her, maybe
we'll get the other three. So,

913
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,800
in matter of five minutes, both
Madame Web and Ezekiel doing things that make

914
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:29,360
complete no sense just to extend the
plot forward, which is just so frustrating.

915
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:31,440
Sorry, go ahead, she doesn't
have powers, Travis, They're the

916
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,159
ones. Why would I she don't
have powers? Why would I need her?

917
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:42,960
Just with the like the subway sequence
there, obviously, like this was

918
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,599
a big thing in the trailer too, showing this this Ezekiel entrance on this

919
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:51,000
train, and the actual execution of
it was very long compared to what I

920
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:53,679
thought it was gonna be like because
she kept seeing little bits and pieces of

921
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,800
the of the memory. Yeah,
and I don't know how it was in

922
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,960
your guys theater, but in the
extreme theater, it is a fucking loud

923
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,119
theater. I remember I saw Venom
two in that, and that like years

924
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:09,800
you're still recovering from that, and
all of the little like train like screeches

925
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:14,880
or pretty much anytime that she has
like a quick like glimpse into the future

926
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,480
moment, my ears like were ringing. It was so freaking loud, and

927
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:22,360
it just kept happening as if it's
like a cheap jump scare moment. And

928
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,920
I'm like, like, first,
I think it was like the first one.

929
00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:27,920
Honestly, I was so done with
it. And then we had like

930
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,199
three more like flashbacks, and I'm
like, Okay, get me the fuck

931
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,280
out of this theater, right,
now like sounds like highly immersive, like

932
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,000
you're in the shoes of web.
In that moment, you're feeling like she

933
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,519
is Ezekiel crawling on the ceiling ahead
of me. He's coming for me.

934
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,599
So I was just like upset in
that moment. And then all it showed

935
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:47,559
me was things I had already seen
in the trailer, uh, for the

936
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,320
actual like action of it happening.
And then and then all she does is

937
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,880
evact them off the train. And
then she like gets a glimpse of her

938
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:01,760
being arrested because she has this this
one lady's skateboard and it's just like part

939
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,559
of me that was just super goofy
in my mind. And then they turn

940
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:08,440
around and she's like there he is
right there, and you see this fucking

941
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:13,679
creature crawling on the ceiling. Meanwhile, that same group of cops is literally

942
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,800
just huddled right behind them, and
not at any moment they're like, well,

943
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:19,920
we'll just like this will explain the
situation. All they do is get

944
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,519
on the next train, and I
thought that was just atrocious until they actually

945
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:24,880
see cops and then I'm like,
Okay, they're actually doing it, and

946
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,239
then yeah, Ezekel just dismantles them
in two seconds. Well, remember the

947
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,880
cops try to rest her. Then
I thought, oh, they avoid it

948
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,800
and she didn't. I still was
like, why was it such a sudden

949
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,559
just like slammer down on her knees
and like arrest her, like just like

950
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:44,559
it there made no sense because they
don't know that Cassandra is the one that

951
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,920
like stole them or anything like that. So yeah, that was that was

952
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,639
just super super ridiculous. And like
you guys already said, like when when

953
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,719
Ezekiel just dismantles all the cops,
he like dismantles them all and then he

954
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,719
like I don't know what he's doing. I'm assuming just taking them out and

955
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,480
then to get to his target.
But like there's such a delay that he

956
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:07,960
takes the last cop and then they
just like run up the stairs. We

957
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:12,440
got time as if he's like feasting
on these cops or something like it.

958
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:15,639
Just as as you already said,
Travis, it was just a way to

959
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,280
extend the plot further along, and
it was just so so lazy. It

960
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,599
seemed like he was self nerving in
like ridiculous moments to just like extend the

961
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:29,280
plot. So especially it's not like
some situation where he can't kill these girls

962
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,079
and need some information. The whole
mission is, I just need to kill

963
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:34,480
them. They need to be dead. They're gonna kill me. Yeah,

964
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:37,760
So if they would have given some
mguff and then maybe halfway through reveal,

965
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,440
oh shit, these ones are gonna
kill me. Like even if he just

966
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,119
had visions about them, be like, I need to know why, and

967
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:46,079
then there is more. But the
whole mission from the point of the movie

968
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:49,719
point one in the movie is I
need to find them and kill them because

969
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,360
they kill me. I don't understand
why he does not act with any agency.

970
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:57,119
I don't understand the choices he makes. And even at one point too

971
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,920
at the end, which doesn't make
any sense, Madam Webb makes a lot

972
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,440
of choices. Like I said that
choice didn't make sense, she decides,

973
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:07,079
hmm, okay, this villain.
Also, these girls have a few times

974
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,400
gone out on their own. They
said they've learned their lesson, but still

975
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:14,320
they've gone out on their own and
being seen and Ezekiel finds them. So

976
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,880
I'm gonna leave them with Ben Parker, who is my friend, has no

977
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:22,199
powers leave like can leave with them. I'm also gonna leave them with a

978
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,960
pregnant his sister in law. This
feels like a great idea, just take

979
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,440
them the fucking Peru, which is
like her even going to Peru as wow,

980
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,480
when she's like, I'm gonna go
to Peru and you're gonna stay with

981
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:37,039
my friend, like you're going to
Peru like you're a paramedic, Like you're

982
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:38,960
not just gonna read your mom's chart
and find this fucking jungle, which she

983
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:42,679
does. But so that and again
it's like in a day. I think

984
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:44,920
I think she gets there. I
think I think it's gonna be going for

985
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,840
a week, but it definitely the
edit makes it feel yes, much less

986
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,519
than that. So there's a part
where they all go to the hospital,

987
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:53,880
which doesn't make sense. Ben doesn't
need all three ladies to assist him,

988
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,039
so he should say, hey,
I'll go you girls that he doesn't know

989
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,000
a whole situation, but I think
he knows enough that there's someone out to

990
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:04,840
kill or hurt these girls. And
I've been told by Cassie to keep you

991
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,119
here, so you stay here.
I'll take my sister in law. But

992
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:10,840
no, they choose to come.
And then so I'm trying to I'm making

993
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,599
a long point here, But when
they all meet up again and Cassie gets

994
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:17,559
in the ambulance and then she's about
to drive away and he's like, well,

995
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:20,960
what about that guy, and she's
like, don't worry, he won't

996
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,360
hurt you because I got them.
We've seen multiple times in the movie where

997
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,400
he will just kill innocent people and
cops that are in the way. But

998
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,000
in this time, of course,
he just jumps over Ben Parker. He

999
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:34,000
couldn't like he does. He could
have picked up Ben Parker is like bait,

1000
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:36,320
but he's like, no, not
this time. But every other time,

1001
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,800
people in the diner, the cops, he'll take five minutes kick in

1002
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,679
their ass, but this time,
no, I gotta be after it.

1003
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:44,440
So again it was just like,
oh, don't worry, he won't hurt

1004
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,679
you. Yeah, I have them
all. What it doesn't make sense the

1005
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:52,039
decision to take them with him like
bold. The only way that Ezekiel found

1006
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:58,760
out that they were with that cargo
was he had his hacker lady just like

1007
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,920
like checking, like the street can't
it's got If they don't leave, they're

1008
01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:06,000
perfectly fine. It's like, oh, got a trace Ben Parker. Okay,

1009
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,800
I'm trackling right now. It's just
I was scratching my head when they

1010
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,079
were leaving the house let alone,
when all that stuff followed, and it

1011
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:15,880
was so strange. It was just
like another way to be like old Peter

1012
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Parker's in the car with our threats, like what's gonna happen? Especially they

1013
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:27,239
show that vision of like Ezekia,
just like fragrenading on board Peter park Actually,

1014
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:31,679
damn, I I just saw Mary
Parker and on board Parkers blow up

1015
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,119
like whoa, but like and it'd
be different as well. To the diner.

1016
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:38,119
Clearly they like they get left in
the woods, they go the diner,

1017
01:00:38,239 --> 01:00:42,960
Zeko finds them. So they establish
to the girl characters that if you

1018
01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:45,880
go out in public, we don't
know how, but you're gonna be found.

1019
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:47,159
It'd be different if that didn't happen, because oh, let's say this

1020
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:50,880
is the first time, or they
should have like maybe made him get that

1021
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,079
tech later on. But they know, if we go out in public,

1022
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,760
we are fucked. So what do
they do? They go in public with

1023
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,559
a pregnant lady. You're like,
I get they're supposed to be kids,

1024
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:01,360
but they live. We've learned our
lesson, Cassie. We won't do it

1025
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:07,239
again. Like I just like I
don't like ah man, I just it's

1026
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,159
just that no one just sits around
and thinks, just like even little stuff

1027
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:14,679
like just do something. Just have
fucking Ezekiel kidnap these two people, Like

1028
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,400
just it's it's already a trophy lame
movie, but just do something at least

1029
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,800
that makes sense where we can't go
why is this happening right now? Just

1030
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,719
be okay, they've been kidnapped,
and you know, madame, we has

1031
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,760
to go saying or something you know
or I don't know, like yeah,

1032
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:30,920
Ezekiel finds it where they're living regardless, so they have to get in the

1033
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,400
car and they're on the shit.
Like there's so many options, and it

1034
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:37,880
just feels like the best way I
could put it is when we have reviewed

1035
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:40,000
X Men or Dan when we did
Spider Man. For a good example,

1036
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:43,920
last year, when we did The
Flash as a positive I said, at

1037
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,360
times, this feels like a Saturday
Morning cartoon, And that was in a

1038
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,360
good way. This feels like it
in a bad way when we go all

1039
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,239
this shit's written for kids and they
don't care, and we we handwave it

1040
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,480
right because we're like, it's a
cartoon, it's from the nineties. Whatever,

1041
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,519
But this is not that this is
a live action multimillion you know,

1042
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,800
so only property that they just feel
like, ah, people don't care.

1043
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,960
And you know, maybe some people
won't, of course, but I think

1044
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,760
there's enough people that we've seen in
the box office and the returns coming to

1045
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,000
th these that eventually they will not
care because like, oh yeah, there's

1046
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,719
no sakes here. It's just you
can watch whatever. So frustrating chase,

1047
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,199
frustrating characters. Just I get it. They're in high school, but they

1048
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:23,760
had them learn and they didn't.
Let's talk more about those those characters.

1049
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:30,400
One one thing I found not to
be the best writing here was just the

1050
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:37,719
way they doled out the kind of
I guess the backstory for our three Spider

1051
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:42,639
well two be Spider characters, because
we talked about that sequence before, how

1052
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:49,440
they were all kind of just like
sharing their backstory initially of how oh like

1053
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,400
oh my my fam my, my
my, well, I guess it starts

1054
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,519
out where they're pretty much just saying
like, oh, like we're alone,

1055
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,360
like we don't have our parents.
Our parents aren't we're all fosters. They're

1056
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,599
out of town or something, and
so it's it's weird. Then later on

1057
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:05,199
after Cassie gets this information that she
then says again, I'm gonna take you

1058
01:03:05,239 --> 01:03:07,559
guys back to your parents when they've
just established that their parents are there,

1059
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,360
like and because this is shit,
yeah, like an hour or two ago.

1060
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,559
It's like, I don't know how
she forgot about this information. Doesn't

1061
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:19,079
really make sense. But then like
each time we kind of get this backstory,

1062
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,000
it's done in a really weird way, and that's not like how anyone

1063
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:24,719
talks or it's just like, okay, twenty seconds of this character's backstory and

1064
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:28,840
then immediately the next person gives you
twenty seconds to their backstory, and then

1065
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,280
immediately twenty seconds of the next person's
backstory. And so I just found especially

1066
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,559
where that we got that kind of
twice that first round, I guess in

1067
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:37,320
the woods when you get that,
and then later on in the motel and

1068
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,639
you get the exact same thing where
they all just okay, let's take our

1069
01:03:39,679 --> 01:03:45,239
roundtable turn here, let's share our
backstory. It's like really inauthentic, it's

1070
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,119
not how anyone talks, and it's
also like why why didn't you do this

1071
01:03:47,159 --> 01:03:52,639
as one long sequence where they could
explain the reasons of why they are in

1072
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,519
this situation, they don't have support
from their systems, and I guess maybe

1073
01:03:55,519 --> 01:03:59,079
they wanted to hammer it home twice
that you could have these scenes at the

1074
01:03:59,159 --> 01:04:01,239
very end of the movie. It
happens in the cab too, right,

1075
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,480
Like that's the first time that it
happens, so like three times throughout the

1076
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:09,360
film they give us a little like
just basically rehash of the same story you

1077
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:14,920
just extended. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's just really it's just really bizarre.

1078
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,159
And I guess they were really trying
to lead up to that moment,

1079
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:20,199
which, yeah, it is probably
worth mentioning it here where Oh my god,

1080
01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:24,440
I was dying laughing when she's in
Just give me to the very end.

1081
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:30,960
She's in her hospital bed and family
here, they're all mine. No,

1082
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,519
ma'am, can I see some id
how you are related? Please let

1083
01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:39,079
me know. The police are here
looking for someone that kidnapped three children.

1084
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:45,239
Yeah, the subscription this, I
don't know what. And I purely believe

1085
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:47,000
because I don't think the coach Johnson
is bad in this movie per se.

1086
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,079
I think all its script stuff.
And she's somebody that I've seen since fifty

1087
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:53,599
shades till now that she's gone better
every time I've seen her, because at

1088
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,880
first I was in the camp for
it was like, I don't think she's

1089
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,800
a good actress, and she's changed
my mind. Whatever direction she was,

1090
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,119
and when she got blind, she
should not have listened to because she was

1091
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:06,159
doing something else when she was blind
and had the glasses, and I don't

1092
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:10,239
know what it was. She was
trying to be like the fucking that lady

1093
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:14,599
from Matrix though what's her again?
Correct? The oracle? Like whatever they

1094
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:17,239
told her to portray it ass was
not the go to because that's when it

1095
01:05:17,239 --> 01:05:19,920
felt like sn L. Like when
there's that shot of her looking out the

1096
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,719
window like I've seen better than I
ever have, and she turns around and

1097
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,159
the girl like, yeah, it
felt like an mcalice. Yeah, it

1098
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:32,000
felt like an SNL skit was gonna
happen. But just like you said,

1099
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,719
ah, they all belong to me, Like it just it felt like she

1100
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,800
was still high on drugs. No
lenses weren't even dark enough, like you

1101
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,239
could literally just see her eyes like
looking at the other girls, I'm like,

1102
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,559
is this really happening right now?
Like I was, I was just

1103
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:48,719
yeah, I was trying to keep
it in, but I was laughing so

1104
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:54,079
hard on myself in that. And
it's tough because the whole point of Madam

1105
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:56,559
Web this movie was, Hey,
there's two Madame Webs, right, there's

1106
01:05:56,599 --> 01:06:00,199
this newer version now with the Trench
code, and she's more actional, like,

1107
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:01,639
hey, they're gonna go that row. And then the last five minutes

1108
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:05,679
say shoehorn, Oh, she's gonna
become that like Galadril. All yeah,

1109
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:10,960
exactly. But the problem is with
that character, they can't be a main

1110
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,400
character. You strip everything interesting.
So to me, the even some perkiness

1111
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,880
and some stuff I might have liked
about Cassandra Webb in this movie completely goes

1112
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,280
away. Now she can see the
future like that what you're previewing there,

1113
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,960
like what I could get I don't
want to see. To Coda Johnson become

1114
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,719
this like emotionless, not funny,
just like draw like you're taking all her

1115
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:33,280
personality away. And it's fine because
the movie's over. But it's like if

1116
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,119
that was the pitch of like that's
what she's gonna be. You can't have

1117
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,039
that as the main character. So
it's just weird that they took the two

1118
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:42,519
mad and Webs and combine them.
It's fine because it was the ending but

1119
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,199
the ending is that pitch of like, well you want to see more of

1120
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:46,280
this, right, It's like,
well, no, I liked Coda Johnson

1121
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,239
and her chrisma, so I don't
want you to just take that all away,

1122
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,440
Like that's the thing, like they
do that well Gandalf. But the

1123
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,880
good thing is like that Gandalf Gray
still breaks out, he still jokes,

1124
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,119
he stills a personality. There's times
where he's very serious and he is,

1125
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:02,760
you know, god like, but
then he does break through. He has

1126
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,840
emotions where and maybe the movie would
be that, but what they proposed here

1127
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:11,880
was just like she's just gonna be
all seeing and there's there's just gonna be

1128
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,760
generic AI superheroes, and yeah,
that all rubbed me the wrong way.

1129
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,960
And that's when I was like,
man, did I just waste my time?

1130
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:19,679
Like I spent an hour for it? If I'm watching this, I

1131
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:24,559
brought boat bike ride at least an
hour to get to and back, like

1132
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:32,320
man, like this is where we
ended up and tough tough, Yeah,

1133
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,360
well I think we'll just lead off
that too. Is like that sequence at

1134
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,559
the very end when she's like talking
about what their futures are gonna be,

1135
01:07:40,679 --> 01:07:44,960
like all that dialogue is so goofy, where she's like, you're gonna fight

1136
01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:47,239
for what you believe, what you
believe in, You're gonna stand up for

1137
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,800
what's right. It's all just like
as generic as like a Fortune Cookie level

1138
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,360
dialogue, which is funny that they
had that kind of earlier in the movie

1139
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,320
as well. Like that. It's
just it's it's such a weird pre post

1140
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,280
credit scene like said a thing but
also felt very like meaningless and nebulous.

1141
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,400
It was it was very strange,
What do you see happened to this power?

1142
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,119
I see powerful things coming from you? He's just like, oh boy,

1143
01:08:13,159 --> 01:08:16,640
And yeah, when I forgot to
mention, that's the biggest laugh in

1144
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,000
my theater and unintentional is I don't
know why they made me laugh, but

1145
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:26,600
when that character said my family's been
deported, seventy percent of the theater all

1146
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,840
laughed. I think it was just
because like they're just throwing out just general

1147
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,680
just rich parents divorce, Like it
was all the most generic. You've seen

1148
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:40,840
this in every teen dramatic show,
and they're throwing it out here and the

1149
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,319
whole scene got laugh and that's I
was like, oh boy, Like almost

1150
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,720
everybody was laughing at that oh,
this is my origin, this is my

1151
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,119
origin, and I could believe what
I was seeing here, and that's what

1152
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:53,680
I mean. It's just like,
Okay, I guess other people are not

1153
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,720
doing this too, because it's not
played for fun. So that's where I

1154
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,319
knew. Okay, majority of theaters
with me here, and I wasn't even

1155
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:01,079
finding that funny, but I was
laughing because everyone else was laughing, and

1156
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:05,079
it just continued on and yeah,
it's funny because like I think the girls

1157
01:09:05,159 --> 01:09:09,359
cause actually the three, because I
think those three more together there is like

1158
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:14,039
a like a better script I can
see, like, yeah, you can

1159
01:09:14,119 --> 01:09:17,239
see it. You can see it
when they interact with the chemistry just like

1160
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,680
amongst each other. It's just the
lines that they were they were going for.

1161
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,920
It's just like, ah, I
can see it. But unfortunately,

1162
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,760
with like what I'm getting here,
it's just it's not leaving a satisfying taste

1163
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,279
in my mouth and not something that
I want to see more of, which

1164
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:34,520
is bizarre because I feel like those
three are good together, but just for

1165
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:39,359
what we're going with their story and
the pair up overall, I'm just there's

1166
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,279
no there's some weird way that they
like try to give them personality where you

1167
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:47,319
have like one who's like the snarky
st nobby one, you have one who's

1168
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:50,319
like the shy one, which is
like Sydney Sweeney, which is weird casum,

1169
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,279
but I actually think she did a
good job of that. Then you

1170
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:57,039
have like the other girl who's like
the smart one. Whiz kids, I

1171
01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:00,399
eat math for breakfast. I'm like, who the fuck's buying that shirt?

1172
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,199
Pick shirt for the entire movie.
Yet one moment I was finally able to

1173
01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:06,720
like discern what it said she does
math like once in this entire movie,

1174
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,199
and it's like, so yeah,
necessary, oh yeah, for the contractions

1175
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,039
are down to twenty one point whatever
it was. Yeah, but then is

1176
01:10:15,079 --> 01:10:17,039
that good? The funny I found
it funny too when they were in the

1177
01:10:17,079 --> 01:10:20,640
like the first taxi seen in the
back seat and she just says something about

1178
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,720
science, and the other girls like, oh you believe in science? Like

1179
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,600
I forget what the lot? Yeah, like what are you even talking about?

1180
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,079
You're trying to create just like this
fake drama between their personality types.

1181
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:31,520
But I don't know. I felt
that way for a lot of these characters.

1182
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,439
But they're like, okay, let's
pick like one personality trait and we're

1183
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:40,199
just gonna like establish that. I
don't know if that's something to do because

1184
01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:44,880
of time constraints and there's all these
different characters, but it leads me to

1185
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,319
like, I'm curious how you guys
felt about the coda Johnson as we maybe

1186
01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:53,800
not her as Madam Web but just
like the characterization of her, because she

1187
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,560
too was like a very snarky character. But I felt like she had zero

1188
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,239
social skills whatsoever, which she's weird
for a paramedic. Like she's good,

1189
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:05,239
she's a good paramedic, but she
like her social skills are abysmal, like

1190
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:10,039
one of the worst. Like if
that was a statin RPG, she'd literally

1191
01:11:10,039 --> 01:11:12,600
be at zero. Like when she's
at the hospital and this little kid gives

1192
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,279
her this this little note to say
thank you, and she's like cannot conceive

1193
01:11:15,399 --> 01:11:19,000
how to accept this vision? What
vision? You're like, she is so

1194
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,439
dumb. But then there's another point
that she's really resourceful and she's really smart,

1195
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,439
and then she like leaves them in
the woods too, and it's like

1196
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,399
that's a really weird decision. So
it's kind of all over the place,

1197
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,119
but I feel like the predominant things
to me are like, she's kind of

1198
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:38,439
dumb, really bad social skills,
really awkward. But then there are these

1199
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,000
other moments where there's other stuff,
but it seems like that's more just because

1200
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,159
of her power shining suit through.
So I thought it was a weird choice,

1201
01:11:44,199 --> 01:11:46,560
Like, you know, you can't
you can't say she's a generic com

1202
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,159
book movie leading character because she doesn't
have a lot of those traits, so

1203
01:11:50,199 --> 01:11:55,880
it's something different. But it's a
really weird choice. And it just just

1204
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,279
it was like constantly in my face
this whole movie, how weird that tried

1205
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:03,880
to characterize her like vision has more, would read the room better. When

1206
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,760
the kids like accept this photo and
she just looks at I'm Scott, like

1207
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,479
she's twelve, I'm like, what
do I do with this photo? Like

1208
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,039
I feel like it still the wear
thall to take it. I think,

1209
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:15,520
almost like what you said the girls
that they all gave them one, I

1210
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,840
think they gave her too many to
decide what this is gonna be. But

1211
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:24,119
I think just because Dakota Johnson is
charming, that's why I still enjoyed her

1212
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:27,279
enough in the role. So that's
where it worked for me. But yeah,

1213
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:31,479
I think it is a messy character
overall. Yeah, I don't think

1214
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:36,600
I'm a really big Dakota Johnson fan. Honestly. I like Chashaw real smooth.

1215
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,640
That's the only project that I can
think of that Like I liked her

1216
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,159
in up on IMDb. I guess
she was on bad times with El Royale.

1217
01:12:44,399 --> 01:12:47,439
She just couldn't remember her her character
too much to that. But uh,

1218
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,720
yeah, no, I just I
was let down. I don't know,

1219
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:55,319
like I'm not even like a big
Madam Web fan for like just throughout

1220
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,760
The Spider Man mythos, I guess, but I was just expecting more.

1221
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:03,359
I think it is maybe due to
kind of some of what you're talking about.

1222
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:06,600
Their down hell, like they kind
of were selective with the charisma choice

1223
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:12,239
to give her, Like she was
super like not passing her charisma checks at

1224
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:15,119
so many times early on in this
film, and then there's just random moments

1225
01:13:15,119 --> 01:13:17,479
when she is just super charming and
it seems like she is a completely different

1226
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,960
type of character. And maybe you
could make the argument that's because of her

1227
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:25,199
growth throughout the film. But like
when she goes to see the Peruvian Spider

1228
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:28,960
Man, it's as if they're like, like that's her great uncle that like

1229
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,159
like like they've been they've been yeah, just like like they had their family

1230
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:35,239
members essentially, like there's no like
who are you? Like, She's never

1231
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:39,880
like stand offish at any point.
She's just believing everything this guy's saying.

1232
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,640
And then we never see that guy
again, like was he even really there

1233
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,960
was that a vision like like you
just disappeared, like he's been wearing where

1234
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,960
did he get the clothes? Like
like he's like that baby's gonna come back

1235
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,800
and I gotta I gotta talk to
her. You know. That was a

1236
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,600
plot point that again much like I
could have cut the Easter eggs a spider

1237
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,960
Man the whole. My mother didn't
love me. Get that out of there.

1238
01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:01,720
That's not worth it. We get
once, Yeah, we get one

1239
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,000
scene and I think it's a d
R. She looks in the box and

1240
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,079
when she looks at a photo,
she's like that was really with your time

1241
01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:11,800
and then cuts back to goa Johnson. She doesn't have that emotion on her

1242
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,199
face at all, it's just she
closes it a box and then they just

1243
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:20,119
try to shoehorn. Yeah, they
try to just shoot me sometimes. Yeah,

1244
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:25,920
they tried to shoehorn like, oh
I didn't need the Oh she was

1245
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:29,079
you were there for me, You're
going to Amazon for me because I had

1246
01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:32,439
this whatever like either take it all
out in her moment with the with the

1247
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:39,319
web, which, yeah, either
take it out or make it a bigger

1248
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,359
through line to me that hey,
yeah, in a movie this long,

1249
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,239
we're not talking about short film here
or a movie this long, I need

1250
01:14:45,279 --> 01:14:48,960
to really feel hey to go to
Johnson. She hates her mom anytimee people

1251
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,640
bring it. Because even when she
brings the mom dying in that party,

1252
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,399
which I actually don't mind that joke, that was kind of good, like

1253
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,960
white say nothing like, oh she
died in childbirth there it's like oh,

1254
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,800
Like I was like, oh that's
kind of funny, but it's like,

1255
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,880
oh no, it's fine, Like
she's like I thought that could have been

1256
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,079
the scene even more so when you
just go like she could have went into

1257
01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:09,039
her mom right there of like being
a pos and leaving her and how you

1258
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:12,960
gotta have responsibilities like all this stuff, but it just was flowered in.

1259
01:15:13,039 --> 01:15:15,720
And then we're supposed to have this
emotional scene of her hugging her mom,

1260
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,159
caring and yeah, take that.
Take it so cheesy, Yeah, take

1261
01:15:18,199 --> 01:15:23,720
it all out. Question about that, I guess that was a baby shower.

1262
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,119
I guess it was what it was, right, question about the baby

1263
01:15:27,119 --> 01:15:30,439
shower scene. So like Emma Roberts
takes one of these things out of a

1264
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,359
hat and reads this prompt like,
oh my mom cut the crust off the

1265
01:15:34,359 --> 01:15:38,439
bread, and then she pulls out
another piece of paper and she flips it

1266
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,159
and she's like, who's is this? Like is blank be legible? Like

1267
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:44,399
could the other people in the room
see what? You know? It was

1268
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,279
blank? I think there was nothing
on it. Yeah, okay, is

1269
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:49,800
that what it was? Yeah?
So it's just to open it and there's

1270
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,560
no piece of paper, and that's
why she's like, well I didn't have

1271
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,560
a mine. Yeah. I thought
it was just like writing was so small.

1272
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,359
So then I'm like, oh,
no one can read your baby one

1273
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,279
thought hole through me at least the
Amazon. Yeah. I think that's what

1274
01:16:02,319 --> 01:16:05,039
it was, is that it was
blank. And that's how she's like,

1275
01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:08,720
who did this? Who would do
this? You know? So it's just

1276
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,479
funny that like we get lady with
note crusts and then right away we just

1277
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,880
go straight to the yeah one and
it's not even like, oh, there's

1278
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,399
an extra one in here, like
oh, let's just keep going and like

1279
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:23,119
guessing the name game like no offense
if you've done that. I just like,

1280
01:16:23,079 --> 01:16:26,800
that's really wanting to involve this person
I've ever met before, Like I

1281
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,159
feel like, yeah, like my
close friends or my older sister or something

1282
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:32,880
like you know that. That's where
I'm bonding with these people, not like

1283
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:38,600
really actively trying super hard to bring
in this this random who has awful social

1284
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,520
skills, or you do a scene
where something happened like the reverse where she

1285
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,600
saves Ben and they meet the hospital
and they bond there, like hey,

1286
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,119
you should come like like you like
are your friends with Ben and stuff like

1287
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:51,880
that, which also I don't want
to forget the fucking oh my god,

1288
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,239
the CPR scene, which I knew, okay, they're gonna say it with

1289
01:16:55,319 --> 01:16:59,960
CPR. I hated. I know
they tried to like lampshade make us in

1290
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:00,680
the joke. She's like high five, like I'm not gonna do that.

1291
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,199
But then the next perss just like, you're a really good teachers, just

1292
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:09,079
like she she just taught you like
two things, like I hated all this,

1293
01:17:09,399 --> 01:17:14,279
like all that stuff too, where
she's like I've never said this before,

1294
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,520
You're a really great teacher, Like
why yeah that even me, like,

1295
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,800
you never said that to her,
to anyone, Like, I don't

1296
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,840
know why just ever face that comment
with that that scene of them in the

1297
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:28,600
hotel room and her teach them CPR, it felt like a fucking five minute

1298
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,119
scene of her like just just teaching
CPR. And I was the only person

1299
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:35,439
I felt like reacting that moment because
I'm like, I cannot fucking believe what

1300
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,680
I'm seeing right here. This is
literally just like you have these three teenage

1301
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,319
girls, you know, like,
well, I guess in the film,

1302
01:17:42,319 --> 01:17:45,359
it's like you you know, do
this for thirty seconds and then just like

1303
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:50,479
I'm tying it, what do we
do for you know, Julia? And

1304
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,880
they're just like it's just like the
camera's just on them doing this for like

1305
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,800
ten seconds, and I was like, I literally was losing it. I

1306
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,479
was laughing so times. It felt
per to me to thinking of that fucking

1307
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:05,640
article that Taylor shared of whatever it
was, of someone pleasure in themselves in

1308
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,399
that movie, and I'm like,
this is probably the fucking scene, Like

1309
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,199
this is just so weird. It
felt decision was it that we like we

1310
01:18:13,319 --> 01:18:15,760
need to have this moment in there. It felt like the start of a

1311
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,680
porn parody like, oh, that's
good. It felt like a movie or

1312
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:24,800
like a scary movie parody and so
ridiculous. My favorite thing is when the

1313
01:18:25,239 --> 01:18:28,720
the whatever the skateboard girls doing it
and it's like, I'm getting tired,

1314
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,640
and then's okay, we gotta take
over and you gotta make sure compressions.

1315
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,720
And I thought Cassi is gonna say
something, but she doesn't because then the

1316
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:40,960
smart girl takes over and she was
doing littles when she and then cas that's

1317
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:46,680
good. It was the same parody, Yeah, so bad, and it

1318
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,760
was not the same rhythm that she
specifically said makes you come at the same

1319
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:58,279
time. And it's okay, what's
going on here? And they got Sidney

1320
01:18:58,359 --> 01:19:00,960
Swinny, Sidney Seny in this fucking
oversize like dress shirt they have her in

1321
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,600
the whole time. I'm just like, I get you're trying to make her

1322
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,920
look younger, but this is not
the luck to go for, like it's

1323
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,239
just oh man, just and then
they save her. That's how they save

1324
01:19:11,319 --> 01:19:14,279
her. She gets it. And
then Adam Scott also did that to her,

1325
01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:16,720
so well, let's just seepr going
on, which I did not understand

1326
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:21,840
also too, so she gets in
the accent right, almost dies Adam's Scott

1327
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:26,039
saves her his life. That's sometimes
she gets the vision and then she goes

1328
01:19:26,079 --> 01:19:28,960
this baby shower and they do the
pepsi thing and they're like, hey,

1329
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,720
want a pepsi. She's like no, and you see pepsi all over this

1330
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,600
fucking movie. Oh my god,
someone paid for this, but she's like,

1331
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,359
no, I don't want a pepsi
and she's He's like, well,

1332
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:39,479
that's the rule, no alcohol twenty
four hours near your death. And then

1333
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,760
when the fire happens, they all
get the call. There's no fucking,

1334
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:47,159
no fucking way that if she fucking
flat he said, yeah, I've been

1335
01:19:47,159 --> 01:19:50,840
pumping you for three minutes you were
gone. She is back to work in

1336
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:56,359
twenty four hours. There's no way
that would legally. And then when someone

1337
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,000
else dies, though they give her
a week off, it would be the

1338
01:19:59,039 --> 01:20:01,720
fucking reverse. If she died and
was dead. Maybe they lied about but

1339
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,239
still it's just like he's even like, well, I can't give you out

1340
01:20:04,279 --> 01:20:08,239
called has it. You know it's
twenty four hours since that situation. No

1341
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:11,560
way she's back on the scene.
But uh, that's also probably one of

1342
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,680
the least problems in this movie,
but I just laugh where near death and

1343
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,720
she's she's back on the board,
and I didn't mind. Again that also

1344
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,800
of her seeing her friend, which
I thought was her boss, but I

1345
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,840
guess it was one of her good
friends because she got very emotional over that

1346
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,760
death, more than I was expecting. But kind of like that of her

1347
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,479
trying not to know how like you
can't just say like, hey, I

1348
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:30,720
saw you fucking die, don't drive
it. She's trying her best like I

1349
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,399
should dry. So I like that. And then I actually liked the framing

1350
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,800
of she turns around and it's literally
like a one two and then he gets

1351
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,600
hit. So I liked how it
wasn't like a oh, we pick up

1352
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,239
later, it was literally within seconds. That kind of taught her about the

1353
01:20:45,279 --> 01:20:47,399
whole bird thing, So I didn't
mind some of that stuff. I thought

1354
01:20:47,399 --> 01:20:51,159
there was some merit in there.
So I was enjoying some of the beginnings

1355
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:55,399
of Oh, this is how I
do it leave a window open. Don't

1356
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,039
like it was her learning, Okay, this isn't long. This is literally

1357
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:01,800
a make it che right now and
change your future, you know. I

1358
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:09,159
did like aspects of like the initial
her realizing her clairvoyance or whatever you'd call

1359
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:13,000
it. Her just visions of the
future. It just got a little bit

1360
01:21:13,039 --> 01:21:15,439
messy for me. Like it's actually
that one I didn't love too much.

1361
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,199
It just I think the logistics of
it just seem so ridiculous because you have

1362
01:21:19,279 --> 01:21:24,439
this building that's just exploding and then
they do like an aerial shot of the

1363
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,720
ambulance that got smushed, and like, the where the fuck was that truck

1364
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,399
going, because it's not like a
four way where he's going like down another

1365
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,680
highway, Like it's literally like a
parking lot that he was just gunning for.

1366
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:40,000
Like it it it's as if it's
a zombie apocalypse moment established there's like

1367
01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:43,600
water right there too. Actually you
think about it, Yeah yeah, no,

1368
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,920
yeah, Like it made absolutely no
sense. And then later on in

1369
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,359
the film, I can't remember what
specific moment was. Maybe it was Adam

1370
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:54,359
Scott's character or oh it was actually
Dakota Johnson when she grand theft autos the

1371
01:21:54,359 --> 01:21:59,399
ambulance and she's she's chasing them.
I swear it's that exact same truck that

1372
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,119
they're like head a head on and
then she like she turns on the lights

1373
01:22:01,119 --> 01:22:09,600
and that's what I got killed.
That's what I thought of. There's like

1374
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,920
a log truck in this movie too. Hey yeah, I thought something's gonna

1375
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:18,760
happen there, but it did litually
not. Here's another really nitpicky thing.

1376
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:24,359
Uh so that sequence when she drops
them off in the woods and then just

1377
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:29,640
leaves just back in three hours range. Yeah, but I also it's funny

1378
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,680
like we go we cut back and
forth between them and the first time we

1379
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,159
go back to the girls in the
jungle, seems like they've been there for

1380
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:38,960
a bit, but then like the
way they're just standing around doesn't really make

1381
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,039
sense to me. The more nitpicky
thing is that like they started a fire,

1382
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:45,880
they campfire there, so they've been
there for a bit. Very resourceful

1383
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,239
then, but also like I don't
think I would think to do that in

1384
01:22:49,279 --> 01:22:56,359
that moment, like we better and
it's nice and early. So there's two

1385
01:22:56,359 --> 01:22:58,520
sides where were like, Okay,
they're they're pretty smart. Okay, they

1386
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,880
did this thing for survival. They
didn't they need to, but whatever,

1387
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,199
they did it. But then the
worst part is they don't like put it

1388
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:05,399
out when they leave, just like
this whole forest stuff. Man, we've

1389
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:10,600
seen it before actually here in you
know BC. So I don't know,

1390
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,800
very weird. Why why was there
a campfire there at all? That just

1391
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,680
seemed like a weird part of this
set for me. That didn't really make

1392
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,840
any sense, and like, I
don't making a fire without like tools readers.

1393
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,199
Maybe they had lighter, but like
we didn't see that at any point,

1394
01:23:24,279 --> 01:23:26,680
so probably, yeah, good,
it's good observation. I mean,

1395
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,199
she's she's always wanted to be a
girl scout or whatever she said, so

1396
01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:32,119
maybe she just yeah, she probably
picked out some stuff there, so because

1397
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:34,840
I thought she said she was a
girl scout, so that's probably where it

1398
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,520
always wanted to be a girl.
So okay, I might have misheard either

1399
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,760
way, Yeah, light or something, But yeah, I did notice that

1400
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,119
they didn't put out the fire the
whole time. That's right by some bushes

1401
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:50,359
too, so you know, we're
experienced with the wildfire seasons, so it's

1402
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:55,720
like that is big. No.
No, it's like it's either that or

1403
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,560
throwing a cigarette butt a window,
Like those are two things you don't do,

1404
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,720
you know. Let's take our fine
break. Probably got her found thoughts

1405
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:08,560
and some ratings. We'll be right
back, and we're back, so I

1406
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:13,640
only have one more note. But
the floor is the uh the taxi cab

1407
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,159
that she grand theft autos right early
on in the film. That basically just

1408
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:18,880
makes it the full length of this
movie. I was so shocked that she

1409
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:24,119
was just keeping that stolen vehicle throughout
the entire thing, like plates off,

1410
01:24:25,359 --> 01:24:29,520
which that was fucking hilarious too,
because the crow bar is just sitting right

1411
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,159
next to the car. Oh yeah, like this is my handy dandy crowbar

1412
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:34,159
to just take plates off vehicles.
This is perfect. And then she leaves

1413
01:24:34,199 --> 01:24:38,199
it just on the ground again,
okay, whatever, But just the fact

1414
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:44,600
that like she ran that right through
the diner. It got completely squished,

1415
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,640
and I imagine that worker is still
looking for and like, so what she

1416
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,000
took the plate off? It's like
a licensed taxi cab like it. The

1417
01:24:51,079 --> 01:24:56,359
news is looking. The news has
reported a woman has abducted three. She's

1418
01:24:56,359 --> 01:24:59,720
parked it at her home. She's
parked it at the hotel where everyone they're

1419
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,800
playing. Yeah, and it's dent
to too. Remember too, it's not

1420
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,199
just like a regular taxi. It's
a taxi that's all fucked up. She

1421
01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:09,840
also takes that taxi to the airport
to go to Peru. Yeah, that's

1422
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,560
what she leaves Ben with yeah,
and she does long term parking, it

1423
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,840
seems. Yeah, that's why I
wish they took up the whole subplot of

1424
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,279
everyone is on amber alert for these
girls, but they don't. No one

1425
01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:21,399
finds them, except they do find
there's one guy. The thing. Oh,

1426
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,760
these girls were dancing sexy on the
table. I better fucking phone,

1427
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,800
and then they they intercept totally gonna
fucking rat out these three girls. Yeah

1428
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,720
here, I'm gonna do my job. And I just lost the cost of

1429
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,479
no questions for a z ego because
he's posing as the cops, like confirm

1430
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,600
not the girls, oh ten four, but yeah, not the girls.

1431
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:44,279
Not the girls. It's just like
it's just like it's no one. They

1432
01:25:44,279 --> 01:25:47,119
don't have any more questions. They
just reported this house. He already there

1433
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,279
no backup than not the girls.
But it's fine. I'll let that one

1434
01:25:50,279 --> 01:25:54,720
go because okay, maybe you know
they're fine, even though I don't know.

1435
01:25:55,079 --> 01:25:57,920
It's New York in a post nine
to eleven, two thousand and three.

1436
01:25:58,359 --> 01:26:00,239
I feel like they're not just giving
up on oh yeah, that's it,

1437
01:26:00,359 --> 01:26:04,359
no other questions, Like I feel
like people are on pretty high all

1438
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,319
that time number to give them too, like it's like, I think this

1439
01:26:09,359 --> 01:26:13,640
is a fake number you just gave
us. Guys, are you sound like

1440
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:19,800
your ad R? That's the curse. That's the curse. He talks out

1441
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:24,600
of sync. I need to get
rid of this. It is pretty jarring.

1442
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,760
It's a good thing for villain to
have opponents of balance. Can you

1443
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:33,239
guys remember what? Because they have
they rip off the With great power comes

1444
01:26:33,239 --> 01:26:38,359
great responsible When you accept responsibility,
you become powerful. I think was the

1445
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,199
line. Yeah, and then at
home like they hit it like three or

1446
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:45,119
four times, so it was it
was taking the line, just flipping it

1447
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:48,000
because it was like, with great
power comes great responsibility of saying one you,

1448
01:26:48,039 --> 01:26:51,800
when you accept responsibility comes the power. And that's why I guess when

1449
01:26:53,119 --> 01:26:56,920
even though at the end she's say
again, I think terrible plan. The

1450
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,319
only way take out this guy is
like get him into a warehouse that but

1451
01:27:00,319 --> 01:27:02,880
if he just doesn't go on the
fucking weare else. And those those poor

1452
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:09,960
helicopter people died for nothing. Literally
two innocent people got killed. And then

1453
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,760
the way he dies is so lame. They just falls to the cement and

1454
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,079
a pee crushes him. It's like, okay, cool, Like you prefer

1455
01:27:15,119 --> 01:27:18,720
death earlier but it happens when she
like she pulls out this thing and she

1456
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,800
blocks the bullets and stuff, and
they oh in the hero moment, it's

1457
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,920
just like when you accept responsibility.
The whole movie, she's been saving these

1458
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:30,119
fucking girl's ass, like we murdered
someone too when she flew through Times Square

1459
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:32,920
and like hits him when he's on
top of Ben Parker's vehicle, Like there's

1460
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,720
like a taxi or something that just
explodes, like we're supposed to imagine that's

1461
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:41,159
empty. Come on, yeah,
but it gets fun where it's like at

1462
01:27:41,159 --> 01:27:44,520
this point because you know she was
how long was she's improved for? We

1463
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,760
don't really know, but it seems
like in that time she's like mastered her

1464
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,000
powers, but then she hasn't because
then that helicopter gets taken down. You

1465
01:27:50,039 --> 01:27:53,600
think, okay, well she probably
could have foreseen that, but then she

1466
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,239
can fir see so many other things
that she can kind of control out at

1467
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:00,680
this point then obviously she's doing the
like astral projection thing too, so it's

1468
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,119
it's just weird. It's like,
did she master powers? Did she not?

1469
01:28:02,199 --> 01:28:05,239
I guess is it supposed to be
that he can also mess with her

1470
01:28:05,279 --> 01:28:10,279
powers because he can somehow see the
future too partly, but his cursed it's

1471
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,880
it gets a bit confusing. I
also just found like that and that action

1472
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,479
sequence, just the way it was
edited, the way it was shot,

1473
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:21,119
was not good at all. I
felt like that was maybe the worst display

1474
01:28:21,159 --> 01:28:26,680
of how her power has worked too, because like I actually didn't look good

1475
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,600
either too. Like Ghosts Dakota,
there can be all sources of issues with

1476
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,840
like origin movies, and we've talked
about those over over the years, but

1477
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:40,319
I generally like just seeing a character
who recently gets powers and they are learning

1478
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:42,920
their powers, and sometimes it's very
rushed in movies. We've seen that a

1479
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,600
lot too, but I liked that
stuff in this movie. I thought it

1480
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,520
was fun for the most part,
with the exception of like the train sequence

1481
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,600
like way longer than it needed to
be in other pacing things. So I

1482
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,000
just found it weird that they kind
of dropped the ball for the powers at

1483
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,960
the end because she's doing all these
things that we're supposed to believe that she's

1484
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,119
maybe seen this and gone back,
but it just comes across more as like

1485
01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:04,039
Domino's powers or she's just super lucky, rather than her using this. And

1486
01:29:04,079 --> 01:29:06,560
I thought they could have edited it
better, and then they just like overdo

1487
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:13,079
it later on. But yeah,
just like the idea of her like one

1488
01:29:13,079 --> 01:29:15,279
of these fireworks is gonna blow a
hole in the wall and they're gonna go

1489
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:16,359
through this hole, but like if
that didn't work, they would die.

1490
01:29:16,359 --> 01:29:19,640
And obviously she can see the future, but like the whole part of it

1491
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:23,800
just seemed weird. And then the
choreography at all. I just don't like

1492
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,960
how point how powerless they made the
other three girls, Like the only thing

1493
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,800
they did was the CPR, and
like, you know, it was kind

1494
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,560
of a throw away. Even even
Julia, she's like, I know taekwondo,

1495
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,960
It's like she never really uses that. But the rest of it is

1496
01:29:38,039 --> 01:29:41,880
just you know, every season of
Survivor there's always a challenge where someone's blindfold

1497
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,920
and they're commanding people like, oh, crouch going to this pool, and

1498
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,600
it's like it's that level of simplicity
that we have for this where I swear

1499
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,840
like three or four different times,
she's just like duck dug, Julia,

1500
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:55,000
no, you duck, no,
you don't. Fireworks always shooting over top

1501
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:59,479
of their head. Just such a
such a weak sequence. And then yeah,

1502
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,000
as you mentioned, like the way
he dies too is super lame.

1503
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,439
Yeah, this helicopter thing is weird, and I know she goes up on

1504
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,680
the roof and she's like calling for
the helicopters, like could you not did

1505
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,840
you not foresee that they would not
be able to pick you up where you're

1506
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:16,000
standing, but you're still go to
I just feel like they were almost dealt

1507
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:20,079
in impossible tasks with like how her
powers work, but then they definitely didn't

1508
01:30:20,319 --> 01:30:24,560
follow through with it in a way
that at least looks cool. So just

1509
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,840
a complete fail of a final scene
for me. Yeah, and again Innocent's

1510
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,159
dead as well at the end too. Those poor helicopter people just they're just

1511
01:30:31,159 --> 01:30:35,279
firefighters who showed up very quick.
She gave that signal again the building very

1512
01:30:35,359 --> 01:30:39,680
quick. Good on their job and
let these people die, and they didn't

1513
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,960
really need a helicopter, Like the
girls got down, Okay, she fell

1514
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,119
in the wall. Like we don't
even actually know the girls got down,

1515
01:30:45,359 --> 01:30:46,680
because it just cuts to them pulling
out the code in the water and doing

1516
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,119
CPR, right, so it's like, how did they get from that burning,

1517
01:30:49,239 --> 01:30:53,600
big exploding roof and the copter is
down? Clearly they were fine to

1518
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,600
do without her. Yeah, so
must have done a big dive from the

1519
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,920
top of the building, which if
they if she could have done that later,

1520
01:31:00,039 --> 01:31:02,239
I couldn't have done that all along, and did I I missed,

1521
01:31:02,359 --> 01:31:05,560
So this is definitely a user error. How did she get blinded? I

1522
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:10,000
missed that? Just one of the
rockets in the water, Yeah, okay,

1523
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:13,199
I saw it was her arm.
Yeah. And then when they pull

1524
01:31:13,279 --> 01:31:17,239
up and she was like, there's
either a second shot or just a hand

1525
01:31:17,239 --> 01:31:20,079
one actually hit in the face or
maybe she like went to block and that's

1526
01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:24,720
why we thought it hit her.
But at first I thought her her power

1527
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,600
was just like upgraded, like she's
just she's on another level now. And

1528
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,279
then I just saw the scratches around
her eyes. I'm like, okay,

1529
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,439
I guess she's blind now. Yeah, some helicopter propellers in the face.

1530
01:31:35,319 --> 01:31:39,159
She can see better than ever.
She's like, she's like, uh neo,

1531
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:45,840
and she has three Those are my
notes. My note was what Dylan

1532
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,640
brought there, bring up the accept
of responsibility and great power will come.

1533
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,439
Yeah, that was that was because
you guys mentioned some other things about like

1534
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,800
the four Spider Man connections up all
that bothered me. That one was just

1535
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,520
like so over the talk for me
that it generally bothered me. That just

1536
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,159
feels like somebody that's seen a couple
of Spiderman movie like, oh, what's

1537
01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:10,359
up saying again like with great power
with greate respart, Like it sounds like

1538
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:14,399
someone actually rewrite this line for me. Yeah, or again, like I

1539
01:32:14,399 --> 01:32:15,159
said, it's like they didn't have
the rights, Like oh, you can't

1540
01:32:15,159 --> 01:32:18,079
say with great power comes with great
responsibility? What if I say, with

1541
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:21,800
responsibility or if you accept responsibility you
get great power? And like, oh,

1542
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:26,720
yeah, that's legally fine, Like
that's what that felt like. Definitely,

1543
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:34,439
I agree, that's I'm exhausted.
Yeah, final thoughts doone? No,

1544
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,319
I don't think so. I think
we kind of cover it all.

1545
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:41,039
I you know, to me,
this like review is very indicative of what

1546
01:32:41,039 --> 01:32:43,800
my viewing experience is like, which
just like yeah, talking about these super

1547
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,640
points and just laughing a lot.
So I like that I kind of got

1548
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,920
it twice in a rose. You
know what. I love this movie.

1549
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:54,199
This movie's probably nothing but joy in
the three hours since it's consistent, so

1550
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,760
I it was very very pleased with
my time here. But yeah, you

1551
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,760
won't you won't see it high in
the Golden Geeks categories. You won't see

1552
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,840
me revisiting it at any point,
but for this night on you know,

1553
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:10,560
February fourteenth, twenty twenty four,
I had. I had a good time

1554
01:33:11,039 --> 01:33:14,880
webbing it up with you guys,
mount you especial even though you don't.

1555
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,560
Do you have numbers? Would it
be a thumbs up or thumbs down?

1556
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,960
Like is it a pass or fail? I'd probably I'd probably drop a clean

1557
01:33:21,159 --> 01:33:30,279
six on this, sinceter six.
Exactly what do you got, kir ezekiel

1558
01:33:30,319 --> 01:33:36,119
Man, He's gonna be leading the
charge. Yeah, I just rehashing what

1559
01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:40,119
I already said earlier in the non
spoiler section, like this is just not

1560
01:33:40,399 --> 01:33:43,800
a good movie. This is not
well written. This is just a lot

1561
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,279
of things in here that make this
bad. But I still had some fun

1562
01:33:46,319 --> 01:33:49,640
times with it, however, Like
I did see this alone, I think

1563
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,359
I had more time, more fun
with you guys, just kind of going

1564
01:33:53,399 --> 01:33:56,760
over those pop points again. But
again, like, I'm never going to

1565
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,479
revisit this, And even if I
have, like somebodies that haven't seen it,

1566
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:00,720
it's like I'll just recommend them see
they see it on their own.

1567
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,239
I wouldn't want to rewatch this again. And I am gonna fail this movie.

1568
01:34:04,319 --> 01:34:09,560
I think it's I think it's truly
awful and it's just like another bad

1569
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:15,319
one on the Sony Spider Spider people
just just movie list that they got going

1570
01:34:15,399 --> 01:34:19,000
on right now. And do you
have this lower than Morbius, Yeah,

1571
01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:21,720
definitely, Like I I would give
this like a two out of ten.

1572
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:29,359
I think it's really yeah. So
I just did not like what they did

1573
01:34:29,399 --> 01:34:34,079
here, and I think it's it's
sad because I had not really high expectations.

1574
01:34:34,119 --> 01:34:40,359
But like whenever, whenever you have
like a dreamcast for something like Sidney

1575
01:34:40,359 --> 01:34:44,159
Sweeney as Julia Carpenter, and like, I can't believe I'm just getting that

1576
01:34:44,279 --> 01:34:46,439
character. Let like let alone that
actress playing that character, but like that

1577
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,479
character live action, like what that
stuit gonna look like? Like my gosh,

1578
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,760
I just can't wait to see what
they do with her character and like

1579
01:34:54,039 --> 01:34:58,079
dive into some of her story.
It's just they just had her in here

1580
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,039
as a as a I was gonna
say, like a c rate character.

1581
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,119
I guess she's beat your character,
but like they just really don't do anything

1582
01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:11,520
like on her actual storyline that I
really enjoy, even her powers, Like

1583
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,319
it seemed like something that I had
never seen before. So she has some

1584
01:35:15,399 --> 01:35:19,720
plasma she had like a bill.
It happens in the comics. Just really

1585
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,159
I had never seen that before,
so that that was new to me and

1586
01:35:23,279 --> 01:35:26,640
which I sometimes in the comics.
Her name is Cornwell's well because I looked

1587
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,239
up mid like why the fun do
they go with Carpenter? But I guess,

1588
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,600
I guess mid movie. But yeah, you had a lot of better

1589
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:36,960
than the other. So I'm surprised
to Jessica Cornwell Cornwall. It's like,

1590
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,039
I don't know, some old time
you name. I didn't like it,

1591
01:35:41,079 --> 01:35:45,840
but Cornwell reporting. When I see
this, it's like, Wow, we're

1592
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:50,479
probably not gonna see another Madam Webb
type adventure for ever live action. So

1593
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:56,119
uh, just a big drop of
the ball there. And what's Craven gonna

1594
01:35:56,119 --> 01:35:58,720
bring us? I don't know.
Well, we'll see. I'm gonna be

1595
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,880
there for the review. I'm excited
for and I say I see it with

1596
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:06,079
someone. Yeah, I thought Craven
was gonna be worse than this, and

1597
01:36:06,119 --> 01:36:10,680
I'm not as confident now because I
thought this could be more interesting. So

1598
01:36:11,239 --> 01:36:14,920
but I guess the other point is
I thought Craven looked bad and not interesting,

1599
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,680
so maybe it's gonna be even worse
boring. That's what I'm worried about.

1600
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,560
Yeah, it's just gonna be very
Maybe we get some cool fights at

1601
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,000
least maybe maybe that's what I hopeful. At least we're like, here's how

1602
01:36:24,079 --> 01:36:27,520
much action here? That scene where
they bites off some dude's nose. Maybe

1603
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,960
they're just scene yeah, fighting rhino, fighting chameleon. Maybe there's some things,

1604
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,239
but yeah, I guess at one
point higher than kirklo like a three

1605
01:36:33,319 --> 01:36:36,840
out of ten. But yeah,
there's not much here. Yeah, I

1606
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:40,159
think I've said it all. It's
just disappointed. But it's kind of like

1607
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:44,239
why said the overall where this is
the norm now, Like it's pretty low.

1608
01:36:44,399 --> 01:36:47,000
So I feel like Venom three or
Craven can just be like a solid

1609
01:36:47,159 --> 01:36:50,800
movie and then I will pass it. But for me, I just can't

1610
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,880
on the film base. I think
on the so bad, so good.

1611
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,880
Yeah, there's definitely some merit there. Maybe I will watch again because Emily

1612
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,840
hasn't seen it, so maybe there
will be a time and place, but

1613
01:37:01,079 --> 01:37:04,960
I hope it's a little further away. But yeah, once Sony moved down

1614
01:37:05,159 --> 01:37:10,479
two to go, we'll see what
happens, but we will be there.

1615
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:14,319
I think Craven's in July. I
think somewhere in there in July August,

1616
01:37:14,359 --> 01:37:16,159
and then venoms in the fall.
So we will be there, and I

1617
01:37:16,359 --> 01:37:18,520
promise you. I don't know if
it's gonna be good, but it will

1618
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:23,159
definitely not be boring. Take care, Bye bye,