WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:16.920 Welcome to on the Latch podcast date. It's me your host JP long Land, 2 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:22.960 it's your bye the black Aphasia, Joshy Willisy through those fucking air holes? 3 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:29.000 How are you? Once again twice in a week. It's David Day. 4 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:41.880 We're joined by by the inventor of birthdays and oh my god, rock 5 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:47.759 on little that intro? I know short, what sweet? No? I 6 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:55.520 mean in better of birthdays? What could you want? I know completely well, 7 00:00:55.520 --> 00:01:00.240 thank you, I appreciate that. No worldome good time? How one 8 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.079 doing no episodes in ages and now two in a week? I mean spoiling 9 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.959 that we off beating the girls? Like between that and a new Rihanna single? 10 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.400 Like, come on, yeah, are we really allowing ourselves to call 11 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.719 it a new Rihanna thing? I mean, like, come on, let 12 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:22.560 me let me like it's no agree obviously I have to like what nothing but 13 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:26.840 only just yeah? Correct, it's better than fenty furniture, isn't it? 14 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:34.200 Imagine? Let's not. Let's not. I mean we stay that like we 15 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:40.079 all wouldn't be buying, do you know what I mean? Like obviously we 16 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:44.120 would buy whatever she put out. I mean I'd probably be able to afford 17 00:01:44.120 --> 00:02:04.400 a fucking table leg but sure, why not up myself for you come over 18 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:15.520 and yeah sometime savage style savage fenty Oh oh who is any have you got? 19 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:20.080 Have you got TikTok? Yeah? Yeah, TikTok? Did I say 20 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:27.000 tik TikTok? The hell is TikTok? Um? Yeah? I do have 21 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.840 TikTok and I put because I did like a compilation of all the best mean 22 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:35.319 moments from last year that I put on my instrum my Twitter, so I 23 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:38.879 put it on TikTok as well. But I've not really like done any content 24 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:45.280 that's like directly TikTok a bull. Yeah, I keep thinking about putting the 25 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:50.520 Miranda stuff on there, so I probably should. Should we talk about that 26 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:55.319 right now? Because it was a cultural rest, No, it was, 27 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:01.120 but also like we got you, you know, like me met me at 28 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:05.080 birthday, as we got you. It's been nearly a year. Do you 29 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.360 get a lot of people kind of now any Miranda's being like, honey, 30 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.719 you've changed the game, do you know? I actually yeah, as in 31 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.800 there are people who get really like there are a number of actual people called 32 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.759 Miranda who have MS and been like just so you know, you've ruined my 33 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:25.759 birthday? Do you know actually though? Yeah, Like I mean imagine, 34 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:30.400 because like I guess anytime someone's called anything else, that's like you can relate 35 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.759 back to something. Now, Like I've got a mate called Marco and everyone's 36 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:37.520 always like, oh Marco Polo huh, So like imagine, but that's like 37 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:42.439 a ship reference. So like imagine actually being like relevant. And if you've 38 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.400 got any gay mates, obviously they're just insufferable. If you name Miranda, 39 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:51.560 I apologize hand on heart all the Miranda's out there. And what upsets me 40 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.919 more though, is the idea that there are Mirandas out there who don't know 41 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:00.120 aboutthay Miranda. Like, I'm not one to blow my own horn, but 42 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:06.800 like, do you know what I mean? Like another Rihanna, where have 43 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:09.960 you been all my life? Do you know what I mean? Yeah? 44 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:17.240 I still have it? I oh yes, yes, Monica, Yes, 45 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:23.920 yes I still have it. Yes, that's why I remember you from But 46 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:29.120 the thing that's really lovely about it is that you and Sam like you seem 47 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.480 to actually grown really close, like lovely. Yeah. So she's got a 48 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.680 daughter called Honey is the most gorgeous little thing in the world. And obviously 49 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:40.399 Ms Rohna has come along as coupled the plans a bit, but they've just 50 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.879 moved into a new house and have invited me over. So I'm really excited 51 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.839 for when, if, and when we're ever free again to be able to 52 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.759 go over and have some Indians because we we were all going to like go 53 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:55.480 to London Pride and stuff together, which obviously, again I know about how 54 00:04:55.480 --> 00:05:00.360 cute because Sam Tuck Sam Tuck Honey to her first Pride last year. She's 55 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:05.800 both icons I know, how amazingly truly, and and her husband Hazy as 56 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:11.519 well. They're just they're amazing. We look. We absolutely adore talking atal 57 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:18.319 resets. Gosh, you went. You did a bath yesterday which was fucking 58 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:26.959 couldn't be anything. It was wild. I want to do more. I'm 59 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:30.399 gonna do more. It was wet and wild and it was fucking chaotic. 60 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.560 I mean like I was inspired by Leland Lamberini who did like a really on 61 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:39.120 point quiz and I was like, yeah, I want to do a quiz, 62 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:43.959 but obviously I'm obsessed with bath bath and all the questions are to be 63 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.439 bath themed in one way, shape or form. But of course the links 64 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:50.279 were really really tenuous, and everyone was saying it was harder than they expected 65 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:51.959 it to be. Well, was that a bit of a send? And 66 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:56.120 they just like, do they expect to be a bit thick? You know? 67 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.360 I like bait, but I mean I wouldn't put it past it. 68 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.079 But in my mind I thought all the questions. I was worried people were 69 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:09.399 gonna be like this. He literally asks how many baked beans? A random 70 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.920 man and he's ever heard of, had tattooed on his face the general knowledge 71 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:20.399 questions choice. It was multiple choice, and he had sixty bait beans tattooed 72 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:24.480 on his head, and he had the longest bath of baked beans. And 73 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:30.160 in the world. He was in there for a hundred hours, and he 74 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:35.040 could have stopped at fifty realistically, and he could have stopped at one. 75 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:41.360 I swear this move over, Lush, Let me get a tin of hind. 76 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:45.959 I don't think, Oh my god, could you imagine? No, 77 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.439 if there's any quick way to get corona, that's it? I mean, 78 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:58.120 or going around licking toilet seats? What about that? I mean, come 79 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:02.279 on, I mean, but I draw the line. Have you seen that 80 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.399 icon? That was like because she started the challenge thing and then when people 81 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.480 have been given a shit she was like, are you joking? No one 82 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:14.040 needs to worry about me. It was on my sugar daddy's sanitized private jet 83 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:17.560 toilet seat. And what was it? She said somewhat like, um, 84 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:23.720 if being like being sexy? Basically it was almost a like fly sexy, 85 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.879 beautiful, nothing of the sort. But I was like if basically like, 86 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.040 if if I get in trouble for this, then fine, I'd rather die 87 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:34.600 ten years younger, but like be iconic and rich and fit, then like, 88 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:41.160 honestly, she's actually an icon and she's talking about licking a toilet seat 89 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:44.920 with that confidence grant me, you know what I mean. That's what I'm 90 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.120 saying. I'm being a confidence and the popcorn and I'll sit and watch. 91 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:59.720 Oh but the thing is with this whole toilet seat licking debarcle, isn't another 92 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.120 big person, mind it the person who licked the ice cream? Yeah, 93 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.160 there's that. And then and then also I think you can really pin it 94 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.639 all back to Miss Grande, who we've licked all those donuts, oh, 95 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.199 the original liquor. Yeah, I mean, if you think about it's so 96 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.399 good that because I really talked ever recover from that in America, like because 97 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.720 they completely lost their mind. They yeah, and they like swear out the 98 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.959 flagon ship. Actually, I feel like a unifying thing for people, I 99 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.320 would say in their twenties at least, like of nowadays is that we all 100 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:39.559 want to die. So her being like her being like, oh, you 101 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.320 know, like I don't. I don't like America, America whatever. We're 102 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.320 all like yeah, tea, like for everything, you know what I mean? 103 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:54.600 Like what even is life like good for you? Don't mine? Please? 104 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.399 I said, who want been? I feel like I haven't even fucking 105 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.559 I haven't left the house yet. I have until my you know, my 106 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:11.759 hour neither. I Actually I've actually really enjoyed obviously since been last recorded. 107 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:20.159 Basically doesn't know we're in lockdown something that's stupid. I'm just saying I've really 108 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.279 enjoyed all the questions that are kind of about this walk are we allowed to? 109 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.279 Like I've been out for a walk. Can I go out for my 110 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:33.440 skip now? It's just I mean I was looking at my house, like 111 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.679 you can see the street really from my house, and it's like it's busier 112 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:43.120 than a fucking Saturday, Like because I think everyone's at home. People are 113 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:48.519 literally they are doing they're doing fucking laps around the place, right, they 114 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.559 are just using it as any old excuse, yeah, because it is so 115 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.200 sunny. But I was thinking, it's like there's no level as to like 116 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:00.279 when the walk Custer end. So could you just do like from Hammersmith mile 117 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:01.919 end and back for the whole day? Is it not an hour? Or 118 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.840 that did I make an hour? Or it is an hour? It is 119 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.080 an hour? Yeah right, well that makes more sense. But also I've 120 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:16.200 not been out of the house seven hours. You know what. I'm seeing 121 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.320 so many people who you can tell, actually it's quite encouraging. You can 122 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.799 tell people who don't usually do runs. They're doing it in like a Sarongan 123 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:30.360 flip plot. They never go for r and yet now they've decided Paula Radcliffe 124 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.639 taking a ship by the side of the road, like absolutely gunning it down 125 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:39.000 the road. No, thank you, so thank you. Somebody who wouldn't 126 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:43.200 have any stute mile and to Hammersmith in no time. It's always Britney Spears, 127 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:56.639 who, oh my god, who records under under sixth seconds? So 128 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:03.039 absolutely I can't, oh my god, I won't hold it against her, 129 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:11.320 you know what I mean. The track just like it's a circus or like 130 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:24.000 it's a circuit. Oh, I truly miss I mean like she literally unbelievable 131 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:31.600 skinny legendise to the nth degree, fully breaking the sound barrier while still the 132 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.679 microphones are not on, like we have to get but like, I actually 133 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.799 love how earnest she was when she posted it, like not one Google like 134 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:45.639 to check, oh, this is actually a world worker by like like incomparable 135 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:54.600 she's like, just to believe you will achieve. But yeah, I mean 136 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.960 I do love Brittany though I think she's actually going through it. Like I 137 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:03.720 love that she's talking about redistribution of wealth, but also she probably I think 138 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:09.000 reader redistributes him with Britney as well to Brittany. How about that? Yeah 139 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:13.440 he hashtag free Britta? What about Prince Charles. I feel like we just 140 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.960 need to just drop the bomb on this one, Like she's got it. 141 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:26.679 Rona came, she's got a game. In the words of Bina, well 142 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:33.679 it's over, Yeah, it's not. It'll be propped up for fifty years, 143 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.919 do you reckon? I've seen people being yeah with Philip at Brince Philip 144 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.120 as well, being like, can we honestly please get a photo of him 145 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:48.519 with today's newspaper because oh that ghostly he could be actually you know, dead, 146 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:56.519 but yeah, I mean I've been replaced by Tupac oh because he's still 147 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.960 alive according to some people. Could you imagine like that would be an iconic, 148 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.679 like like that could be a sitcom, you know, like you are 149 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.840 tupap but you've got to actually pose this Prince Philip and oh my god, 150 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.279 what would you do? The antics? I mean, just like mess around 151 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:18.399 with the kogies. Imagine Prince Philip with a bandana. Oh my god, 152 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.360 ball, I could imagine it. He's not He's quick to check a bitch. 153 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.559 Don't get it, Prince Charles, Like, how did he get it? 154 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.000 Do you think Camilla's got anything to do with it? I think it 155 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.120 was. It sound like we're talking about something else. Yeah, you think 156 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:43.240 it was Diana Lady Dy what died? Yeah, No, I think it 157 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:50.840 was. I think it was Camilla. So well, she was in Blackpool. 158 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:54.399 I mean I was absolutely screaming because that was a birthday of the Blackpool 159 00:13:54.519 --> 00:14:00.720 Tower because she was recording. I can't she's doing it me fil but like 160 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.399 for some reason, they were filming it in Blackpool and it actually just made 161 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.639 me scream Yeah, it doesn't. The idea of her in Blackpool bless her. 162 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:16.320 It's what she deserves, but it's yeah, it's more than she deserves 163 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:24.399 no money and no money's on RuPaul's drag Race tomorrow. What I feel like 164 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:30.039 we saw that teaser clips so long ago that I genuinely feel like she's already 165 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:35.720 been a judge. It's been eighty four years. Yeah, I like, 166 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.840 what are your thoughts on drag Race? Have you been watching? Who you 167 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.559 enjoying? Obviously been watching? Yeah, Like my life depends on it. 168 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:46.200 And during the reign of Miss Rona, it's literally the only thing that I 169 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:52.120 don't even go by the calendar anymore. I just go by the Gregorian calendar. 170 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:58.240 I don't think um so I I do you know? I love this 171 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:05.120 season? Um Leslie Jones was the most phenomenal she's because also I don't know 172 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.159 if everybody knows this, but she only got into a drag race about two 173 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:13.240 or three years ago. So people that have followed her, myself included, 174 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.399 for that entire period of seen her go through the recommendations of like, oh 175 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.039 should I watch which season first? Blah blah, and she like live tweets 176 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.759 her thoughts and puts out loads of videos of her speaking over it and stuff 177 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.080 like voice every type stuff, and so she's just so authentically into it. 178 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:33.279 And I'm sure she was the one who will have had a part in getting 179 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:37.039 it spoken about at SNL and like yeats and stuff on it in the last 180 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:39.440 few years, Like she'll have been a big advocate for that. And then 181 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.200 obviously her being there and like it was so genuine like because obviously a lot 182 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.159 of people that go on, a lot of people that go on you can 183 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.000 see that would just be like, oh yeah, wow, I'm so happy 184 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:54.960 to be here, like certain people who won't be named that where Onesie's megan 185 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:58.440 trainer. Whereas like I feel like, I know, actually I have a 186 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.759 party try now, I thought you were, I was about to say, 187 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.200 I thought, yeah, no I am. Do you think is I'm not 188 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.960 a party trainer. I just realized I was being too harsh on her, 189 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:12.240 because actually I think she's an unproblematic queen. I just was so offended by 190 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.840 the Onesie that I couldn't get past it. But I've decided to live and 191 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.039 let live. I mean, I haven't forgotten, but I've forgiven, and 192 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:23.159 that's that's all. You'll get from me. But my point is that Leslie 193 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:26.559 was so gorgeous, like when she said to Rockham you know, oh you 194 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.000 can do this or whatever like that, Yeah, like we got you, 195 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.320 like that gorgeous little moment. I just oh my heart. And obviously I 196 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:41.480 actually the very first episode that Sherry was in, I felt really really uncomfortable, 197 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.039 as in like the point where I was like, I don't know if 198 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:45.679 I can watch this season, and then I don't know what it is. 199 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.360 Maybe it's because there are so many of them to water her down, because 200 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:52.600 obviously they're only like six or seven of them in that episode. I feel 201 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.000 like they've done a good job of editing it so far. It's so uncomfortable 202 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.799 when any judge gives their praise like that guest judge from cuitmember who it was, 203 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.519 but it last week or the week before where they were like, wow, 204 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.319 you're amazing blah blah blah. Yeah, I think it was, And 205 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.079 I was thinking, Tandy, you are a villain. And then I was 206 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:15.839 like, obviously she got a clue. No, but like would she be 207 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.559 on the phone, like why is that stilayed? Like I agree, I 208 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:22.880 agree, No, it's just I just think that it's such a shame because 209 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.960 other than that, And have you seen also Aidan Zaane's problematic old tweets that 210 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:33.640 came out No, yeah, and she's oh my god, I mean it 211 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.240 depends where we sit on the cancel culture thing because they were from two thousand 212 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:41.759 and ten, twenty and twelve. But she was doing that anywhere. Oh 213 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.559 my goodness, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, I know. Well, 214 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:49.119 to me, she's just the American scaredy cat, right, like we're 215 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:55.319 all settling on that. Yeah yeah, but she there was fat phobia, 216 00:17:55.359 --> 00:18:00.319 transphobia, racism, like she's not on like the tweets all right, yeah, 217 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:06.279 truly, And don't get me started because it's on next week's episode as 218 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:12.359 well. Tell you what it is. It's so tired, it's right, 219 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:17.400 and like genuinely at this point, I feel like, yes, I don't 220 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:18.839 want to be that person. That's like I expect them to all have a 221 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.079 hundred grand going in and being able to spend it on outfits. And I 222 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.960 understand that some queens have the financial privilege or the connections to pass queens do 223 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:29.319 be on the show that others don't. I get that. However, I 224 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.559 would rather that she literally wore like a five pound Smithy's wig instead of that 225 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.279 black thing. Like I would genuinely forgive her more if she put a clown 226 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:45.000 nose on because at this point, well, closet like my queen, Oh 227 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:57.640 my god, Hidi Range queen and honestly hidian closet every Like, I'm so 228 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:04.240 glad that she for she is the like iconic Monique narrator. But everything she 229 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.079 says, it's because of her voice in the first place, is just so 230 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:15.440 comedic. And she's so thoroughly lovable and entertaining and I oh, I absolutely 231 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.400 her in that challenge the American's Worst or whatever it was with Jackie Cox, 232 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:27.519 and she had me screaming, I love her, blessed in haigh a favorite. 233 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:33.359 Oh that line. That's yeah, that's quite something that It's a brilliant 234 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:38.519 season. Yeah, the talent is that and Nikki was an amazing first judge. 235 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.799 I mean, like, you would you be gutted if you were on 236 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:48.559 the on the Robin friends who you are? Because Jan I find Jan quite 237 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.759 authentic in her social media posts and she's been like, I don't know what 238 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.720 you guys are all talking about, Like Robin's one of my favorite artists in 239 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.559 the world, which I understand because there is a certain subset of gays who 240 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.759 are like obsessed with Robin but like, I'm a Robin stand but I'm a 241 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:08.680 Nicki Minaj superstand, so like I would feel a bit short changed. However, 242 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:14.119 great that she didn't, so I'm glad for her, But I mean 243 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:18.279 some of them would have been really annoyed about it. Surely, sure, 244 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.759 I mean that first episode that always has the big judges, like like Garga 245 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:27.599 into a segue here, thank you Garga. What do we think about her 246 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:33.480 counseling? Counseling, well, at least postponing. But I don't really, 247 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.519 I don't really get it, like we've all got nothing better to do. 248 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:42.200 Why Why it's physical sales, physical sally, physical sales, right right, 249 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:48.839 that makes sense? Yeah, and I guess I think that well, if 250 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:53.079 they are I think people, if they're stands, Yeah, and true, 251 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:57.000 it's probably largely a label thing, like we like to think that when a 252 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:02.000 celebrity gets to a certain love or they have loads of control over their career. 253 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:07.039 But actually I think it's still lagging, particularly for female singers. So 254 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.079 I think it's all right, being like, oh my god, goga literally 255 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.880 like what a career resurgence. She owns the world, like she owns the 256 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:18.200 world. But I actually genuinely think there's so little control in that side, 257 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.720 and they'll have just gone, no way we're releasing now, absolutely not, 258 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:25.599 we need these sales, blah blah blah. And unfortunately, whether she could 259 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:27.440 do anything about that or I mean, maybe I'm giving too much benefit of 260 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.599 the doubt, but I really think she's a decent person and I don't think 261 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:36.240 she I don't think personally she would store it if she could. We're panicking 262 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:40.680 about the tour as well. Now that's obviously yes or no, it's not. 263 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:42.200 It's truly not. But the thing is, if it doesn't, nor 264 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.519 will Pride in August, and that is going to make me never leave my 265 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:52.240 house ever again. I actually Pussycat Dolls meeting greet for April. I was 266 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:57.559 literally ready to throw that pass back so hard. Now that's in November, 267 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.200 but it is the same week as Halloween, and I think that's going to 268 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.759 be a perfect time to kind of get spooky ukuki with the girls, Oh 269 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:07.079 my god. Also and to just everyone will be wearing the react costumes with 270 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:18.200 a bit of blood and spider website exactly. Yeah, I think I might 271 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:19.960 do a big winter holiday, to be honest, now I'm starting planning it. 272 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:25.319 I'm like some obviously we all are going to do that. No one 273 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:30.000 left. Yeah, it's but um, but what about you? Like, 274 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.680 I know that things are really like so up in the air, particularly for 275 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.440 like freelancers and for artists, like, yeah, how are you coping with 276 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:41.799 it all? Maybe? Um um, I was gonna say, I'm not. 277 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:47.599 I am. The answer, the simple answer is I'm just not and 278 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:53.480 that's fine. So I've had to give up my flat in London because it 279 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.759 literally like I do some tutor in as well, and I sing, and 280 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:02.000 obviously like we had them warning signs of Corona stuff a bit ago, so 281 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:04.240 like all my gigs were summer were canceled at least over like a week or 282 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:10.319 two ago, and not a single one's going ahead. And then my tutor 283 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.279 in last Wednesday, so just over a week ago, I was I was 284 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.720 in a tutoring session, teaching, and then it came on the news that 285 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.200 May and June exams weren't going ahead and all my students were year eleven. 286 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:23.759 So obviously they were like, we love you, but we don't need you 287 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:29.480 anymore. So I was just like, oh, like, I literally went 288 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:33.680 from you know, a normal income to literally zero. So I was like, 289 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.880 okay, I'm going to have to go home. So I guess there 290 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:41.160 was no point at which I guess I panicked a bit then, but as 291 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:42.720 soon as I came home, I was just like, I will just land 292 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:48.960 on my feet. So I'm back at home, home in Lincolnshire, but 293 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:53.240 like near Donnie where all my family lived, and it's actually really nice that 294 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.920 my brothers come back. He lives in London, but he's worked in recruitment 295 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.319 so he's fine, Like people obviously all wanting jobs still, so he's okay 296 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.400 to work from home. And my mom and dad are retired and my dad 297 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:04.920 drives lorries, so he's like out in the day but back and so like, 298 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:07.839 it's a nice little set up, and it's the first time that we've 299 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:12.559 all been together as a four properly other than Christmas like twenty thirteen when I 300 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:17.119 was in sixth one. So I feel like I'm making the most of it, 301 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.880 and hopefully, because I love my flatmate, so hopefully I'll be able 302 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.200 to go back and pick up kind of where I left. Off flat wise, 303 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:29.920 but like if I can't, I can't, and I'll just you know, 304 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.279 pastors new Like I'm just trying to we don't know what it sounds. 305 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.039 I'm not trying to be like a guru, but like we obviously don't, 306 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.119 like we don't know what to do, you know what I mean? Like, 307 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.079 well, truly it's out of sabotay. The world's sabotage with me. 308 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:47.039 But as in, like you know, I'm in my head, I think 309 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:48.119 to keep sanity, I'm being like, Okay, it's going to be three 310 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.160 months, but it might be longer, it might be less like whatever. 311 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:53.920 I have a lot of mates who live in London. Hopefully I can you 312 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:59.519 know, crash on sofas or whatever. And like Doel who I've seen with 313 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.440 he and I have been wanting to go to live in Spain for a bit 314 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.279 and learn Spanish. So like, I just feel like I'll cross whatever bridge 315 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:10.400 when I get to it. I'm luckier than most I own completely understand because 316 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:12.079 I have the option to go and live back at home, and I'm happy, 317 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.160 you know, I enjoy being at home. My parents are great, 318 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.000 my brother's amazing, So I feel fine. I feel at about it. 319 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:21.960 How you guys, how's it affected you? For me, it's kind of 320 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:23.039 the same in terms of, like you know what, like all the kind 321 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.799 of gig kind of things. Obviously I'm a trainer, so all the trainer 322 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.720 Yeah, kind of just basically just bell up. Yeah, and unless it's 323 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.839 online, so we're just trying to build up online training. But even then 324 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.279 there's still a bit like I'm in and arm in really um so it's just 325 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:44.279 everything, Like I just think if things don't turn around, then you know, 326 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.680 it's just quite a worrying time. Yeah, and John, what about 327 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:53.279 you? I mean what I said the other day, a lot I manage 328 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:56.519 the pub and that's reasonly doing the podcast because I've got absolutely nothing to do. 329 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.000 Yeah, on board out of my head like this, there's there's nothing 330 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:04.119 going on here, and we've kind of obviously got no idea. We're kind 331 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.680 of went for the government, which it's gonna be a time to do so 332 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.160 we can reopening it. Until that point, we'd have to kind of sit 333 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:15.000 around and hope that the money doesn't run out. Our staff and everything's going 334 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.079 to be okay. But for us, again, there's no there's no David, 335 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:23.079 you're still in school, aren't you. He's still doing Yeah, I 336 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.359 haven't been for the past well two days. I haven't been for the past 337 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.480 two days because we've got a rotor finally going on. Um, so there's 338 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.319 not too many of us in school, but I'm in tomorrow so that should 339 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.960 be fun. But again, I mean it's it's just like we just get 340 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.960 about probably five kids in the whole school, um, because obviously we've got 341 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:48.039 the key worker children and the vulnerable children. But I mean it can change 342 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.200 any day. Any day. We can have more kids, we can have 343 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.680 less kids. So it's, um, it's here and there really, but 344 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:59.559 um, we've just got to keep washing our hands at the very least. 345 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:07.599 And it's hard because obviously when you get like one of the kids like running 346 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.920 up to you and you're just like whoa, whoa, whoa, stay where 347 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:17.039 you are social distancing, and it's like, yeah, just say stay back, 348 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:21.279 you know, don't come in any nearer. That's it's it's sad, 349 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.200 but I mean I've got to look out for myself at the end of the 350 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.759 day. But the thing is, the one thing I would say about it 351 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.680 is this, I've been in situations in the past where you know, like 352 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.880 where opportunities haven't come up, or you know, I've been out of a 353 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.880 job, And in those situations it's completely different because you feel like the world 354 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.359 a route is going on around you and you're taking a step back or you're 355 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:44.720 not where you're totally, whereas in this situation there's such a sense of solidarity 356 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.799 where it's not like, you know, you could literally just say one word 357 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.119 like corona and everyone's like, right, well that's it. Yeah, we've 358 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:56.240 got one hundred percent, We've got mates. So one of my friends is 359 00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.720 he always knew that his contract with his work was going to come up in 360 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.319 I think it finishes in June, and so he's been shitting it for ages 361 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.960 because he's known that it's been like a really good job. It's really it's 362 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.920 well paid for him, and at some point soon and he knows that he's 363 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:12.200 probably going to be ended up taking a pay cut and having to go into 364 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.440 a different industry, like that's just the way that it works for him. 365 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.960 But he's said to me that he feels so much more comfortable because everyone else 366 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.920 in this job hunting world, rather than him being like, my life is 367 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.559 spinning off its access, but no one else's it's not in a selfish way, 368 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.000 just in a life like you say, it's that solidarity thing of like, 369 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.839 oh maybe I'll actually be all right because we're all kind of being thrown 370 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.240 through the ring of it at the moment. Yeah, so yeah, I 371 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.200 totally agree, and I think that's what's keeping me going because I'm also very 372 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.680 aware, like you know, I don't like I'm checking my privilege, but 373 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.799 as I'm aware of my privilege that I'm you know, I'm enjoying being at 374 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.480 home, I'm just taking it as a different scenario that I'm living in him 375 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:57.839 that I'm really enjoy So I guess, yeah, I just try. And 376 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.799 I mean obviously, like I would like to be in London and I would 377 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.240 like for result to not be you know, cooped up indoors and whatever. 378 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.079 But like you just always it's easier said than done a lot of the time. 379 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:11.599 But I really try always to see the best side of things, and 380 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.200 there are a lot of positives to be in home. So can I just 381 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:25.880 say I love your nun. By the way, she's all right, I 382 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.880 think I don't really think she quite understands what's going on, and like she's 383 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.279 with it mentally, but like I think because obviously none of us understand, 384 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:38.640 but we're so constantly like reading things on Twitter and the news and whatever else, 385 00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:44.599 and I just feel like for her, Like the other day, I 386 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.960 basically was like, we had a family funeral, and I was like, 387 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:49.359 you know, your grandma, you just really can't go. This was like 388 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.559 last Thursday, so a week ago now, when before it was that lockdown 389 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.119 stuff, but late enough into knowing that all people were vulnerable, but the 390 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.880 government hadn't said anything about it yet. And so we spoke the other day 391 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.920 and she was like, oh, well I've been I've been in lockdown now 392 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.599 for a week, so I'll be okay. I was like, no, 393 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:08.079 no, no, Grandma, you're you're in lockdown, like we're all, 394 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.319 do you know what I mean. I think there's just these little tip bits 395 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:12.799 of things where she was like, oh, I heard that if you're in 396 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.160 for a week, then you're fine after that. And I'm like, Grandma, 397 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.559 you're really truly like going to be in your house for a while and 398 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.720 we'll come and knock on the window and deliveras and stuff, you know. 399 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.240 So I think she's fine because she just like lives a little old person life 400 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.160 and we'll get to like way through the window and stuff. But yeah, 401 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.599 she's I mean she at once an icon, always an icon. Like the 402 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.480 lockdown is not going to stop her being an icon. She'll always be that. 403 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.519 And she's just I mean, we were ring her every day, so 404 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:45.160 she's amazing and actually she so she loves talking to us, and she like 405 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.039 we'll always related. Like someone's got two sisters, so she'll always relate to 406 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:53.119 the other sisters. Up, Oh Jane rang today or Jack said this, 407 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.920 and there's a boat. She only ever lets you talk to about five seconds 408 00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.640 on the phone, and it's like the peak of the day. But she's 409 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.759 got anyway, love, I better go, And there's no there's no there's 410 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.599 no reason, no reason for her to leave. It's not like you know, 411 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.240 sometimes she'll be like, oh, I better go anyway, I love 412 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.720 taggets on and Tagget's not on. She's take Tag decides that she wants to 413 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:23.079 watch that second, And no, we really all learn a thing or two 414 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:30.680 because I feel like House Party the app, everybody's iconic, but we all 415 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.000 still don't know how to end conversations because normally you can go, oh, 416 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.839 anyway, I better go, I've got this thing on. Everybody knows you've 417 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.359 got shit all on because there's ship all to do, so all I was 418 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.000 just like, we've all had it for like at least a week now, 419 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.799 and I'm still like swiping out of Combos and then texting it being like, 420 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.720 oh my god, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize that i'd gone out 421 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.680 of the app and we can all do with growing a pair and doing what 422 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.240 my grandma doesn't go. Look, I'm sorry, I've really had enough. 423 00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:01.839 Now I'm gonna go see like quit we after ahead because nobody's doing it like 424 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:07.160 her, that is it. I always try and say, oh, I'll 425 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:13.200 let you go, and pretend that they've got something on. Oh I'll let 426 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.039 you go. I know you must be rushed off your feet. I'll see 427 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:24.039 you later. I just tend to go a ball of anxiety and embarrassment and 428 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:36.319 just like I just wanted to ask about the music because I'm yeah, and 429 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.000 how you founding this time a kind of time where you're like in the mood 430 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:45.599 to kind of creatingto thing. Yeah, So I mean I sing with Joel 431 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.319 always, so like I do my kind of social media, you know, 432 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.839 daftness on my own, but like my music side is always with Joel, 433 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.400 so I feel like it's it's not because I'm not. He's the one who 434 00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.039 plays the instruments and stuff, so if I'm making music, it tends to 435 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.440 be with him putting any producers and stuff, so like putting down beats or 436 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.200 whatever. So I feel like I do feel quite creative, but it doesn't 437 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.559 usually come out as music for me. It tends to be me doing like 438 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.559 Daft videos or like I see my creativity being able to come out in like 439 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.160 tweets or whatever. So I have this massive long list in my notes of 440 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.920 like, oh, I'm going to do this video, I'm going to do 441 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.200 this lip sync and this mime and whatever. So I think I will get 442 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.599 around to doing that soon because Lord knows, we're going to be in quarantine 443 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.319 the Turner for a while. Um. But yeah, no, not not 444 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:40.160 music directly, just like I did. Yeah, I just had to know. 445 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:46.200 The problem is I'm oh, oh, private ah, that's I miss 446 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:52.119 ashmore than anyone in the world. I didn't even know. I can't. 447 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.839 She was going to come up actually last week we're going to film loads VIDs, 448 00:33:54.880 --> 00:34:00.960 but obviously then we got um locked down. So ultimately I think the 449 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:07.799 government at homophobic because she was going to provide so much gay entertainment. Yeah, 450 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.159 we've been new, what's new? But yeah, I mean I feel 451 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.639 like I'm face having people and actually communicating with people a lot more than I 452 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.639 ever. I mean, obviously for all faced having people more than normal, 453 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:20.960 but I feel like I'm actually talking to a lot of people more than had 454 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.320 I even been able to see them personally and stuff, which is a positive 455 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.360 of this all, I guess. I feel like we are connecting a lot 456 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:30.320 and reaching out, I think, and I think it will change the way 457 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.280 in which we interact with each other. I think it will change a lot 458 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.360 of things, the way in which we work remotely, the way in which 459 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.960 we just engage with each other. I think it will. Yeah, I 460 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:45.159 think we've been going like I feel like society has been moving towards the leniency 461 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.519 to be able to work from home for a lot of jobs for a while, 462 00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:52.960 but now seeing that like absolutely can be done. Productivity can remain pretty 463 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.760 much the same in a lot of jobs. Like perhaps you know you have 464 00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:01.360 your your Wednesday, everybody's in midweek, you know, human contacts, see 465 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.639 how things are going, and then be like you know what if you want 466 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.400 to work, because I know a lot of places like the forward thinking kind 467 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:08.880 of places. I've got a friend who works at Google and she was like, 468 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:14.800 nobody in top who was above you cares at what point of the day 469 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:15.400 you get your work done, as long as you get your work done. 470 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.599 So that obviously Google is, you know, a different to most companies, 471 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.400 but like they've got a massive gym at the King's Cross branch and they run 472 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:29.159 like kind of PTE led classes all day and if you want, you just 473 00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.119 go to it at any point because they know as long as you're getting your 474 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:36.360 work, you know, and that kind of thing of just trusting workers to 475 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.000 get their work done because they hopefully enjoy their job. I know a lot 476 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.400 of people don't, but a lot of people do and could be given more 477 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:49.280 freedom because they can be trusted to have the freedom. Like yeah, it 478 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.360 last it was it last year. That was the year of realizing things. 479 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.719 I definitely it was I feel like doing like all the things, like even 480 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.760 like the stuff like today it's been yet free parking. They said it couldn't 481 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.519 be done and not yet it can be like this universal credit for people, 482 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:13.760 although it's still not die and I guess you. Yeah, we have to 483 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.480 hope that this is something that sticks in the public psyche post all this of 484 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.599 the like, because basically what they're doing as a universal basic income for most 485 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.400 people, which is what we've been wanting for ages and the Tories would never 486 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:28.679 do, and yet here we are. Or like homeless people have now been 487 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:35.000 put up in hotels in London only because of the kind of wealthier people and 488 00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.199 the risk of them walking past them. So it's only obviously when it impacts 489 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:42.599 on the people that the political parties care about. But still, in a 490 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.599 time when we're spending so much money bailing people out, there's still now magically 491 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.360 enough money to help homeless people, when you would think this is the time 492 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.559 that they had the biggest excuse to not because oh, you know, all 493 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.480 our money has been stretched even more than normal. So like, all these 494 00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:00.239 things are doable, and it's laughable that people like Corby or Bernie Sanders, 495 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.119 you know, their people's retort is, well, how on earth are they 496 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.519 going to find the money? Well, I think we found the money, 497 00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:09.280 haven't you. So we've got to hope that people keep that fire under their 498 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:15.360 asses, because I could see a real restructure in of that kind of political 499 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.760 society given the situation we're in at the moment. Yeah, miss Rona is 500 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.960 the cultural reath there and like I you know what I mean, and as 501 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:30.599 terrible as all the things horrific happening medically and the strain it's putting, but 502 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:36.159 socially instructually should make people pause the thought. Definitely, Yeah, she's opening 503 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:42.159 her eyes. Um do you want to Oh God, David, what do 504 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:52.760 you think? No? Oh, a lot of people be scared. A 505 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.360 lot of people are intimidating, a lot of people are intimidating. Have you 506 00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.199 seen that? Actually they've just done something with James. Yes. We don't 507 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:08.800 need to talk about it, though, do we we do. What we 508 00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:15.039 should be talking about is when Rossa was doing fenty Beauty stuff, because the 509 00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:22.079 fenty Beauty at marketing team. Honestly, haven't I got more or something? 510 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:29.519 Yeah? Yeah, niconic like to be she really do that? Like I 511 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.000 mean, I know there's not been any music, but like, it is 512 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:37.360 such an incredible brand with such a clear vision and it has completely disruptor of 513 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.760 them all. So yeah, yeah, this fenty and I'm excited for her 514 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.039 new music whatever it is. Honestly, she could sneeze on the beat in 515 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.679 this current climate, and I'd be like, and it would get thicker, 516 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:54.440 it would get on Friday has gone features on the song on Friday with Party 517 00:38:54.480 --> 00:39:00.320 next Door yea, yeah, which shame that it's not all her but out. 518 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.920 I mean, we're getting content, that's what we want. But what 519 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.320 about you, Like, I just want to briefly, That's what I was 520 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.400 about to say. I just want to briefly like discuss, like, well, 521 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:14.719 how do you feel about the whole leaking thing? I was heartbreaking her 522 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:24.119 poor little face that why did you do this? I guess it's just it's 523 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.079 terrible. It's almost come from a place of loving us so much, right, 524 00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.599 It's like, obviously it's not the right thing to do, but it 525 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.199 comes to a place of standom. It's not people trying to bring her down. 526 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:38.440 I think it's fancy, yeah, because they feel like we've waited so 527 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:44.039 long, and I get it. You have to hope that people will still 528 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.199 be streaming it just as much, but you know, with like um stupid 529 00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.760 Love did well and that had been late before, but then the second week 530 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.679 it dropped down massively on the Billboard charts because I guess the Gaze had already 531 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.480 streamed the life out of it. Yeah, and that's the thing, and 532 00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.840 I'm worried about that for this Doula Peak because like you to see how upset 533 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:02.360 she was, and I think if you've been working on something for so long, 534 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.679 I just think if you respect the artist, you should just respect the 535 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.079 way that they want to put it out. That's how. Yeah, and 536 00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:12.639 that someone leaks it themselves or it is like like you know, or in 537 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.320 a thing where they're almost being held hostage by the label, like just like 538 00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.360 it was coming out in about a bump, So just chill. Yeah, 539 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.079 I do think I don't know how like they should really have all the songs 540 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:28.639 kind of saved individually so that one album just can't leak like the whole down 541 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:34.079 thing. Yeah, but I guess we're quite close to when it was meant 542 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.480 to be coming out anyway. She's only brought it forward by what like, 543 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.719 so I guess it had to have been together all by now for like physical 544 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.800 stuff and whatever and like going through the final matters. Like yeah, like 545 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.480 I agree with you, because perhaps if it was meant to be out in 546 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.519 August or something, that would be a shitter. But I feel like perhaps 547 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:58.440 it's you can't get around it now. Yeah, well, I mean streaming 548 00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.679 the new songs out today as well, and it's it's cracking. Yeah. 549 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.800 And also Little Mix as well, the new Little Mix one, Oh my 550 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:10.760 god. And Leanne's mullet. Oh she can pull off that, that that 551 00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.639 Smithy's mullet. Like she's stunning enough to actually pull off. Yeah, and 552 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:21.599 I tell you who couldn't Aidan Zaane, Oh no, she wishes, she 553 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:25.360 wishes truly, Like it has been a really problematic season. I will just 554 00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.360 say that, like anymore like who ell like like Britta and and so. 555 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:37.719 Yeah. Apparently apparently the British stuff, Um, I mean obviously always believe 556 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.360 victims, but as someone told me when I was like, oh, obviously 557 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.159 Britains canceled as well because of the secial harassment stuff. Apparently there's been like 558 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.920 her retort, well not just her retort to that, but apparently that's kind 559 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:54.920 of been um works through. I think in terms of like I don't obviously 560 00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:01.159 I don't know, but I think it's definitely much less so and concrete Alison 561 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:06.840 Mossy Yeah then literally yeah, Alison b And also obviously it's that admittance but 562 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.440 I think I feel like somebody told me and I might be wrong, so 563 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:14.119 don't take me away on this, but that it was kind of sorted out 564 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.039 and some I mean, you can't really call it a misunderstanding, but I 565 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.239 do. I think it wasn't as bad as perhaps it's Some areas have told 566 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:23.519 us that it was, but I don't know if that's true. No, 567 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.840 I've heard the same thing, and I heard that on Bob and Menai's podcast 568 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.079 as well, who seemed kind of let they know the tea a little bit 569 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:36.440 about it. But right, I mean, I don't like, for me, 570 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.400 it's all about G G good and is it. Yeah, I'm loving, 571 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:46.039 I adore, I adore, but I feel like there are others Jan. 572 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:52.239 I'm here for Jan. Jan's great. Jada is just there are moments 573 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.599 of her, like her when she was in the bubble bath look last week 574 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.480 with the gold thing through her her, she just looked beautiful. And I 575 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:07.840 also think because a couple of widows looks haven't been amazing, we're forgetting how 576 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.320 phenomenal she was in her first episode, Like I was obsessed with her, 577 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:19.199 like that lip sync was so impassable. Yeah, So I think and also 578 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.239 obviously, Like I'm sad about rock them because of the ship's storms that are 579 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.519 still in it, and we've lost Rockham, you know, I think they 580 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.239 just chose not to get her. I mean, this is the thing we've 581 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.159 got. We've got so much to watch. Is there anything else that you're 582 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.760 watching? Have you got any recommendations for the girls? Oh? God, 583 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.840 I watch this for the gals. This one's the big one for the gal. 584 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:54.159 I watch everything, so I watched Everything Uplands, so I would say 585 00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.119 I'm actually not watching Shit's Creek until the final season comes onto Netflix without It's 586 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:07.199 like my favorite thing ever finished. Grace and Frankie. I love This Is 587 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:12.760 Us. That's a gorgeous cry binger on Amazon. Oh my god, it's 588 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:17.760 It's the most beautifully told story of like not necessarily massive things happen. It's 589 00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.440 not a big drama. It's just so gorgeously told, gorgeously acted, really 590 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:29.079 incredibly well directed and edited. It's really worth watching This Is Usum, I'm 591 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:30.400 going to get into Grazing at Me. I think I watched like a season 592 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.280 a while ago, but obviously we've got so many episodes of that on Prime, 593 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.679 and then I'm just going back and watching old stuff like Ugly Betty Desperate 594 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:44.559 Housewives with two of my absolute faves. Yeah, I need to that was 595 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:50.320 a classic. That was a classic, and I think I am gonna download. 596 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.679 I haven't got Disney Plus yet because I've been touched off my feet, 597 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.000 but I think I'm going to get it because everybody is raving about it. 598 00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:00.280 I mean, that's so raven. You know what, Oh they are, 599 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:07.599 it's the future I can see. Yeah, yeah, that's me. I 600 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:13.079 mean, speaking of shows, has anyone gone onto Spanish Netflix? O my 601 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.800 god, there's a show called Lead. What is that, Alie? Yeah, 602 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:21.000 apparently it's there. Okay, I will I'll watch it. Then I 603 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:30.519 want to watch oh yes, yes, everything is included, no bars held. 604 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:36.320 I still need to watch the Gays, the d ls, that everything. 605 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:42.960 Oh yeah, efore he was good before, Oh my god. But 606 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.400 also I hope to be watching you on YouTube soon. I want to see 607 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:51.800 some bids. Yes, yes, well things things are in the works. 608 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:57.079 So um, hopefully we're waiting on a few things. But I had some 609 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:01.039 important, interesting chats, some exciting chat this week, so hopefully one of 610 00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:12.199 them. This is, this is, this is I'll name it. Yeah. 611 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.719 I just want to go on, sorry Jack, go on, No, 612 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.480 no, I was I was only repeating myself out of BOARDOM. I 613 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.639 just want to. I just want to finish this episode with UM. I 614 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:32.440 want us too. I want to my first episode really um unexpected, unexpected 615 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.639 moments of joy that have happened to you being in quarantine over the last few 616 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:47.000 days. Oh, I'll start, I'll start. So this afternoon I walked 617 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:52.000 to living room and SWO was doing yoga with his entire work team on zoo. 618 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:57.079 Very cute, adorable. Oh yeah, you just like to see him 619 00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:02.599 from behind? Shut up you, and then I kick cutted in four fingers 620 00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:15.960 right. Wow, I've never heard Let's go a Little kitty. Oh come 621 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:24.079 on vocals? Yes? Well, oh Joe Joe on Life is about You? 622 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.840 That sounded like the riff out of Home Run by Me. Should be 623 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:38.360 Oh ast you dune? Oh quit, I'm gonna listen to her dream she 624 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:43.320 went to my college. Actually, fun fact about me should be went to 625 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:50.199 my college. She's icon and hugely slapped on. Yes, incredibly talented, 626 00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:55.519 but do what the public do? Um? Well, I mean I don't 627 00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.519 think I've had my moment of joy was definitely getting in the bathroom. Was 628 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:01.159 in the bathroom two hours and actually now I've got in the bath with me 629 00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.559 for the first time actually, which is wow that he's never been in the 630 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.280 back with um. But yeah, we got in the bath and we had 631 00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:15.000 a bottle of prosecca and that was my big names exactly. And we did 632 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.360 try and recreate bubblies in the fridge and yeah, we nearly smashed a wineglass 633 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:24.079 in the bath, so that stopped. David, have you got any or 634 00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:31.039 do um no, No, it's just been widely normal and boring as always. 635 00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:36.559 Um. Yeah, if you had any people sliding in? Have you 636 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.320 had anyone sliding into your DM? Now it's quarantine, No, it's quar 637 00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:45.920 no, no, no, no, no, no one. I mean 638 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:50.199 I've had obviously the few people who just remember that you're alive, and you 639 00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.920 know they're corning in the day and you know they just how are you? 640 00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:04.320 We're not in the dmo Jesus you hear that? If you are, if 641 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.760 we've got a single one, Um and Jack, are you looking at the 642 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:15.719 moment Brenny one, absolutely not no. But we're in the eighth of Corona. 643 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.519 We don't know when they're going to come out of it. Um. 644 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.280 Yeah, I'm just I'm very It's not this like, oh I'm in the 645 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:29.000 pregnant, but as in like I just really am not in Like I'm not 646 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.880 actively averse to the idea, but I'm never ever looking at all, um, 647 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.440 Like I don't know, I just it sounds I just worked. Basically, 648 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.599 Ash is in who I've spoken about like my iconic little matey. I 649 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.920 love her so much and we spend so much time together that I need to 650 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.960 find someone who I like more than Ash, and that's never going to happen, 651 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.639 so I'd rather spend time with her, so like, yeah, I 652 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.599 don't know, I feel fine in that regard, just like if it happens, 653 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.159 it happens. But it's I'm not one of these It's like, oh 654 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:05.519 my god, I'm not on a boyfriend for five years, Like I'm okay, 655 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:07.679 do you know? Yeah for dea And actually, when you are one 656 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.199 of those people who are desperately looking for a boyfriend, doesn't make it some 657 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:16.000 poor choices totally, Whereas like who's on my level at this point? Like 658 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:24.239 honestly, who is on my level? I mean I've got yeah, yeah, 659 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:29.039 and like you know, who's doing it like me? The answer is 660 00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.559 no, one, So why would I settle? Oh? Facts, facts 661 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:40.920 fact. That is a fantastic way to end the episode. H oh she 662 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.760 actually she made point right. Thanks so much to Jack for joining us on 663 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.960 this episode on the last podcast. You can follow us on Twitter at on 664 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:55.679 the Latch email us what is It on the Latch podcast at email dot com, 665 00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.880 go on to our curious cat and spend up stuff to deal with. 666 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.199 We don't want that out of things to talk about. Also, what you're 667 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:08.639 as well at Jack Remington two ms in Remington, not like the shaver Um 668 00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:14.559 And yeah that's the same across all of them, but the only ones you 669 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:21.960 want to bother with is Instagram, Twitter and Christian Mingle. Oh my god, 670 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:30.079 she's on her knees. Jesus, I hope it's somewhere right. Thanks 671 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:36.719 for having me. What a scream, I say, save everyone? What's 672 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:37.760 your eye? What