Welcome to on the Latch podcast date. It's me your host JP long Land,
it's your bye the black Aphasia, Joshy Willisy through those fucking air holes?
How are you? Once again twice in a week. It's David Day.
We're joined by by the inventor of birthdays and oh my god, rock
on little that intro? I know short, what sweet? No? I
mean in better of birthdays? What could you want? I know completely well,
thank you, I appreciate that. No worldome good time? How one
doing no episodes in ages and now two in a week? I mean spoiling
that we off beating the girls? Like between that and a new Rihanna single?
Like, come on, yeah, are we really allowing ourselves to call
it a new Rihanna thing? I mean, like, come on, let
me let me like it's no agree obviously I have to like what nothing but
only just yeah? Correct, it's better than fenty furniture, isn't it?
Imagine? Let's not. Let's not. I mean we stay that like we
all wouldn't be buying, do you know what I mean? Like obviously we
would buy whatever she put out. I mean I'd probably be able to afford
a fucking table leg but sure, why not up myself for you come over
and yeah sometime savage style savage fenty Oh oh who is any have you got?
Have you got TikTok? Yeah? Yeah, TikTok? Did I say
tik TikTok? The hell is TikTok? Um? Yeah? I do have
TikTok and I put because I did like a compilation of all the best mean
moments from last year that I put on my instrum my Twitter, so I
put it on TikTok as well. But I've not really like done any content
that's like directly TikTok a bull. Yeah, I keep thinking about putting the
Miranda stuff on there, so I probably should. Should we talk about that
right now? Because it was a cultural rest, No, it was,
but also like we got you, you know, like me met me at
birthday, as we got you. It's been nearly a year. Do you
get a lot of people kind of now any Miranda's being like, honey,
you've changed the game, do you know? I actually yeah, as in
there are people who get really like there are a number of actual people called
Miranda who have MS and been like just so you know, you've ruined my
birthday? Do you know actually though? Yeah, Like I mean imagine,
because like I guess anytime someone's called anything else, that's like you can relate
back to something. Now, Like I've got a mate called Marco and everyone's
always like, oh Marco Polo huh, So like imagine, but that's like
a ship reference. So like imagine actually being like relevant. And if you've
got any gay mates, obviously they're just insufferable. If you name Miranda,
I apologize hand on heart all the Miranda's out there. And what upsets me
more though, is the idea that there are Mirandas out there who don't know
aboutthay Miranda. Like, I'm not one to blow my own horn, but
like, do you know what I mean? Like another Rihanna, where have
you been all my life? Do you know what I mean? Yeah?
I still have it? I oh yes, yes, Monica, Yes,
yes I still have it. Yes, that's why I remember you from But
the thing that's really lovely about it is that you and Sam like you seem
to actually grown really close, like lovely. Yeah. So she's got a
daughter called Honey is the most gorgeous little thing in the world. And obviously
Ms Rohna has come along as coupled the plans a bit, but they've just
moved into a new house and have invited me over. So I'm really excited
for when, if, and when we're ever free again to be able to
go over and have some Indians because we we were all going to like go
to London Pride and stuff together, which obviously, again I know about how
cute because Sam Tuck Sam Tuck Honey to her first Pride last year. She's
both icons I know, how amazingly truly, and and her husband Hazy as
well. They're just they're amazing. We look. We absolutely adore talking atal
resets. Gosh, you went. You did a bath yesterday which was fucking
couldn't be anything. It was wild. I want to do more. I'm
gonna do more. It was wet and wild and it was fucking chaotic.
I mean like I was inspired by Leland Lamberini who did like a really on
point quiz and I was like, yeah, I want to do a quiz,
but obviously I'm obsessed with bath bath and all the questions are to be
bath themed in one way, shape or form. But of course the links
were really really tenuous, and everyone was saying it was harder than they expected
it to be. Well, was that a bit of a send? And
they just like, do they expect to be a bit thick? You know?
I like bait, but I mean I wouldn't put it past it.
But in my mind I thought all the questions. I was worried people were
gonna be like this. He literally asks how many baked beans? A random
man and he's ever heard of, had tattooed on his face the general knowledge
questions choice. It was multiple choice, and he had sixty bait beans tattooed
on his head, and he had the longest bath of baked beans. And
in the world. He was in there for a hundred hours, and he
could have stopped at fifty realistically, and he could have stopped at one.
I swear this move over, Lush, Let me get a tin of hind.
I don't think, Oh my god, could you imagine? No,
if there's any quick way to get corona, that's it? I mean,
or going around licking toilet seats? What about that? I mean, come
on, I mean, but I draw the line. Have you seen that
icon? That was like because she started the challenge thing and then when people
have been given a shit she was like, are you joking? No one
needs to worry about me. It was on my sugar daddy's sanitized private jet
toilet seat. And what was it? She said somewhat like, um,
if being like being sexy? Basically it was almost a like fly sexy,
beautiful, nothing of the sort. But I was like if basically like,
if if I get in trouble for this, then fine, I'd rather die
ten years younger, but like be iconic and rich and fit, then like,
honestly, she's actually an icon and she's talking about licking a toilet seat
with that confidence grant me, you know what I mean. That's what I'm
saying. I'm being a confidence and the popcorn and I'll sit and watch.
Oh but the thing is with this whole toilet seat licking debarcle, isn't another
big person, mind it the person who licked the ice cream? Yeah,
there's that. And then and then also I think you can really pin it
all back to Miss Grande, who we've licked all those donuts, oh,
the original liquor. Yeah, I mean, if you think about it's so
good that because I really talked ever recover from that in America, like because
they completely lost their mind. They yeah, and they like swear out the
flagon ship. Actually, I feel like a unifying thing for people, I
would say in their twenties at least, like of nowadays is that we all
want to die. So her being like her being like, oh, you
know, like I don't. I don't like America, America whatever. We're
all like yeah, tea, like for everything, you know what I mean?
Like what even is life like good for you? Don't mine? Please?
I said, who want been? I feel like I haven't even fucking
I haven't left the house yet. I have until my you know, my
hour neither. I Actually I've actually really enjoyed obviously since been last recorded.
Basically doesn't know we're in lockdown something that's stupid. I'm just saying I've really
enjoyed all the questions that are kind of about this walk are we allowed to?
Like I've been out for a walk. Can I go out for my
skip now? It's just I mean I was looking at my house, like
you can see the street really from my house, and it's like it's busier
than a fucking Saturday, Like because I think everyone's at home. People are
literally they are doing they're doing fucking laps around the place, right, they
are just using it as any old excuse, yeah, because it is so
sunny. But I was thinking, it's like there's no level as to like
when the walk Custer end. So could you just do like from Hammersmith mile
end and back for the whole day? Is it not an hour? Or
that did I make an hour? Or it is an hour? It is
an hour? Yeah right, well that makes more sense. But also I've
not been out of the house seven hours. You know what. I'm seeing
so many people who you can tell, actually it's quite encouraging. You can
tell people who don't usually do runs. They're doing it in like a Sarongan
flip plot. They never go for r and yet now they've decided Paula Radcliffe
taking a ship by the side of the road, like absolutely gunning it down
the road. No, thank you, so thank you. Somebody who wouldn't
have any stute mile and to Hammersmith in no time. It's always Britney Spears,
who, oh my god, who records under under sixth seconds? So
absolutely I can't, oh my god, I won't hold it against her,
you know what I mean. The track just like it's a circus or like
it's a circuit. Oh, I truly miss I mean like she literally unbelievable
skinny legendise to the nth degree, fully breaking the sound barrier while still the
microphones are not on, like we have to get but like, I actually
love how earnest she was when she posted it, like not one Google like
to check, oh, this is actually a world worker by like like incomparable
she's like, just to believe you will achieve. But yeah, I mean
I do love Brittany though I think she's actually going through it. Like I
love that she's talking about redistribution of wealth, but also she probably I think
reader redistributes him with Britney as well to Brittany. How about that? Yeah
he hashtag free Britta? What about Prince Charles. I feel like we just
need to just drop the bomb on this one, Like she's got it.
Rona came, she's got a game. In the words of Bina, well
it's over, Yeah, it's not. It'll be propped up for fifty years,
do you reckon? I've seen people being yeah with Philip at Brince Philip
as well, being like, can we honestly please get a photo of him
with today's newspaper because oh that ghostly he could be actually you know, dead,
but yeah, I mean I've been replaced by Tupac oh because he's still
alive according to some people. Could you imagine like that would be an iconic,
like like that could be a sitcom, you know, like you are
tupap but you've got to actually pose this Prince Philip and oh my god,
what would you do? The antics? I mean, just like mess around
with the kogies. Imagine Prince Philip with a bandana. Oh my god,
ball, I could imagine it. He's not He's quick to check a bitch.
Don't get it, Prince Charles, Like, how did he get it?
Do you think Camilla's got anything to do with it? I think it
was. It sound like we're talking about something else. Yeah, you think
it was Diana Lady Dy what died? Yeah, No, I think it
was. I think it was Camilla. So well, she was in Blackpool.
I mean I was absolutely screaming because that was a birthday of the Blackpool
Tower because she was recording. I can't she's doing it me fil but like
for some reason, they were filming it in Blackpool and it actually just made
me scream Yeah, it doesn't. The idea of her in Blackpool bless her.
It's what she deserves, but it's yeah, it's more than she deserves
no money and no money's on RuPaul's drag Race tomorrow. What I feel like
we saw that teaser clips so long ago that I genuinely feel like she's already
been a judge. It's been eighty four years. Yeah, I like,
what are your thoughts on drag Race? Have you been watching? Who you
enjoying? Obviously been watching? Yeah, Like my life depends on it.
And during the reign of Miss Rona, it's literally the only thing that I
don't even go by the calendar anymore. I just go by the Gregorian calendar.
I don't think um so I I do you know? I love this
season? Um Leslie Jones was the most phenomenal she's because also I don't know
if everybody knows this, but she only got into a drag race about two
or three years ago. So people that have followed her, myself included,
for that entire period of seen her go through the recommendations of like, oh
should I watch which season first? Blah blah, and she like live tweets
her thoughts and puts out loads of videos of her speaking over it and stuff
like voice every type stuff, and so she's just so authentically into it.
And I'm sure she was the one who will have had a part in getting
it spoken about at SNL and like yeats and stuff on it in the last
few years, Like she'll have been a big advocate for that. And then
obviously her being there and like it was so genuine like because obviously a lot
of people that go on, a lot of people that go on you can
see that would just be like, oh yeah, wow, I'm so happy
to be here, like certain people who won't be named that where Onesie's megan
trainer. Whereas like I feel like, I know, actually I have a
party try now, I thought you were, I was about to say,
I thought, yeah, no I am. Do you think is I'm not
a party trainer. I just realized I was being too harsh on her,
because actually I think she's an unproblematic queen. I just was so offended by
the Onesie that I couldn't get past it. But I've decided to live and
let live. I mean, I haven't forgotten, but I've forgiven, and
that's that's all. You'll get from me. But my point is that Leslie
was so gorgeous, like when she said to Rockham you know, oh you
can do this or whatever like that, Yeah, like we got you,
like that gorgeous little moment. I just oh my heart. And obviously I
actually the very first episode that Sherry was in, I felt really really uncomfortable,
as in like the point where I was like, I don't know if
I can watch this season, and then I don't know what it is.
Maybe it's because there are so many of them to water her down, because
obviously they're only like six or seven of them in that episode. I feel
like they've done a good job of editing it so far. It's so uncomfortable
when any judge gives their praise like that guest judge from cuitmember who it was,
but it last week or the week before where they were like, wow,
you're amazing blah blah blah. Yeah, I think it was, And
I was thinking, Tandy, you are a villain. And then I was
like, obviously she got a clue. No, but like would she be
on the phone, like why is that stilayed? Like I agree, I
agree, No, it's just I just think that it's such a shame because
other than that, And have you seen also Aidan Zaane's problematic old tweets that
came out No, yeah, and she's oh my god, I mean it
depends where we sit on the cancel culture thing because they were from two thousand
and ten, twenty and twelve. But she was doing that anywhere. Oh
my goodness, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, I know. Well,
to me, she's just the American scaredy cat, right, like we're
all settling on that. Yeah yeah, but she there was fat phobia,
transphobia, racism, like she's not on like the tweets all right, yeah,
truly, And don't get me started because it's on next week's episode as
well. Tell you what it is. It's so tired, it's right,
and like genuinely at this point, I feel like, yes, I don't
want to be that person. That's like I expect them to all have a
hundred grand going in and being able to spend it on outfits. And I
understand that some queens have the financial privilege or the connections to pass queens do
be on the show that others don't. I get that. However, I
would rather that she literally wore like a five pound Smithy's wig instead of that
black thing. Like I would genuinely forgive her more if she put a clown
nose on because at this point, well, closet like my queen, Oh
my god, Hidi Range queen and honestly hidian closet every Like, I'm so
glad that she for she is the like iconic Monique narrator. But everything she
says, it's because of her voice in the first place, is just so
comedic. And she's so thoroughly lovable and entertaining and I oh, I absolutely
her in that challenge the American's Worst or whatever it was with Jackie Cox,
and she had me screaming, I love her, blessed in haigh a favorite.
Oh that line. That's yeah, that's quite something that It's a brilliant
season. Yeah, the talent is that and Nikki was an amazing first judge.
I mean, like, you would you be gutted if you were on
the on the Robin friends who you are? Because Jan I find Jan quite
authentic in her social media posts and she's been like, I don't know what
you guys are all talking about, Like Robin's one of my favorite artists in
the world, which I understand because there is a certain subset of gays who
are like obsessed with Robin but like, I'm a Robin stand but I'm a
Nicki Minaj superstand, so like I would feel a bit short changed. However,
great that she didn't, so I'm glad for her, But I mean
some of them would have been really annoyed about it. Surely, sure,
I mean that first episode that always has the big judges, like like Garga
into a segue here, thank you Garga. What do we think about her
counseling? Counseling, well, at least postponing. But I don't really,
I don't really get it, like we've all got nothing better to do.
Why Why it's physical sales, physical sally, physical sales, right right,
that makes sense? Yeah, and I guess I think that well, if
they are I think people, if they're stands, Yeah, and true,
it's probably largely a label thing, like we like to think that when a
celebrity gets to a certain love or they have loads of control over their career.
But actually I think it's still lagging, particularly for female singers. So
I think it's all right, being like, oh my god, goga literally
like what a career resurgence. She owns the world, like she owns the
world. But I actually genuinely think there's so little control in that side,
and they'll have just gone, no way we're releasing now, absolutely not,
we need these sales, blah blah blah. And unfortunately, whether she could
do anything about that or I mean, maybe I'm giving too much benefit of
the doubt, but I really think she's a decent person and I don't think
she I don't think personally she would store it if she could. We're panicking
about the tour as well. Now that's obviously yes or no, it's not.
It's truly not. But the thing is, if it doesn't, nor
will Pride in August, and that is going to make me never leave my
house ever again. I actually Pussycat Dolls meeting greet for April. I was
literally ready to throw that pass back so hard. Now that's in November,
but it is the same week as Halloween, and I think that's going to
be a perfect time to kind of get spooky ukuki with the girls, Oh
my god. Also and to just everyone will be wearing the react costumes with
a bit of blood and spider website exactly. Yeah, I think I might
do a big winter holiday, to be honest, now I'm starting planning it.
I'm like some obviously we all are going to do that. No one
left. Yeah, it's but um, but what about you? Like,
I know that things are really like so up in the air, particularly for
like freelancers and for artists, like, yeah, how are you coping with
it all? Maybe? Um um, I was gonna say, I'm not.
I am. The answer, the simple answer is I'm just not and
that's fine. So I've had to give up my flat in London because it
literally like I do some tutor in as well, and I sing, and
obviously like we had them warning signs of Corona stuff a bit ago, so
like all my gigs were summer were canceled at least over like a week or
two ago, and not a single one's going ahead. And then my tutor
in last Wednesday, so just over a week ago, I was I was
in a tutoring session, teaching, and then it came on the news that
May and June exams weren't going ahead and all my students were year eleven.
So obviously they were like, we love you, but we don't need you
anymore. So I was just like, oh, like, I literally went
from you know, a normal income to literally zero. So I was like,
okay, I'm going to have to go home. So I guess there
was no point at which I guess I panicked a bit then, but as
soon as I came home, I was just like, I will just land
on my feet. So I'm back at home, home in Lincolnshire, but
like near Donnie where all my family lived, and it's actually really nice that
my brothers come back. He lives in London, but he's worked in recruitment
so he's fine, Like people obviously all wanting jobs still, so he's okay
to work from home. And my mom and dad are retired and my dad
drives lorries, so he's like out in the day but back and so like,
it's a nice little set up, and it's the first time that we've
all been together as a four properly other than Christmas like twenty thirteen when I
was in sixth one. So I feel like I'm making the most of it,
and hopefully, because I love my flatmate, so hopefully I'll be able
to go back and pick up kind of where I left. Off flat wise,
but like if I can't, I can't, and I'll just you know,
pastors new Like I'm just trying to we don't know what it sounds.
I'm not trying to be like a guru, but like we obviously don't,
like we don't know what to do, you know what I mean? Like,
well, truly it's out of sabotay. The world's sabotage with me.
But as in, like you know, I'm in my head, I think
to keep sanity, I'm being like, Okay, it's going to be three
months, but it might be longer, it might be less like whatever.
I have a lot of mates who live in London. Hopefully I can you
know, crash on sofas or whatever. And like Doel who I've seen with
he and I have been wanting to go to live in Spain for a bit
and learn Spanish. So like, I just feel like I'll cross whatever bridge
when I get to it. I'm luckier than most I own completely understand because
I have the option to go and live back at home, and I'm happy,
you know, I enjoy being at home. My parents are great,
my brother's amazing, So I feel fine. I feel at about it.
How you guys, how's it affected you? For me, it's kind of
the same in terms of, like you know what, like all the kind
of gig kind of things. Obviously I'm a trainer, so all the trainer
Yeah, kind of just basically just bell up. Yeah, and unless it's
online, so we're just trying to build up online training. But even then
there's still a bit like I'm in and arm in really um so it's just
everything, Like I just think if things don't turn around, then you know,
it's just quite a worrying time. Yeah, and John, what about
you? I mean what I said the other day, a lot I manage
the pub and that's reasonly doing the podcast because I've got absolutely nothing to do.
Yeah, on board out of my head like this, there's there's nothing
going on here, and we've kind of obviously got no idea. We're kind
of went for the government, which it's gonna be a time to do so
we can reopening it. Until that point, we'd have to kind of sit
around and hope that the money doesn't run out. Our staff and everything's going
to be okay. But for us, again, there's no there's no David,
you're still in school, aren't you. He's still doing Yeah, I
haven't been for the past well two days. I haven't been for the past
two days because we've got a rotor finally going on. Um, so there's
not too many of us in school, but I'm in tomorrow so that should
be fun. But again, I mean it's it's just like we just get
about probably five kids in the whole school, um, because obviously we've got
the key worker children and the vulnerable children. But I mean it can change
any day. Any day. We can have more kids, we can have
less kids. So it's, um, it's here and there really, but
um, we've just got to keep washing our hands at the very least.
And it's hard because obviously when you get like one of the kids like running
up to you and you're just like whoa, whoa, whoa, stay where
you are social distancing, and it's like, yeah, just say stay back,
you know, don't come in any nearer. That's it's it's sad,
but I mean I've got to look out for myself at the end of the
day. But the thing is, the one thing I would say about it
is this, I've been in situations in the past where you know, like
where opportunities haven't come up, or you know, I've been out of a
job, And in those situations it's completely different because you feel like the world
a route is going on around you and you're taking a step back or you're
not where you're totally, whereas in this situation there's such a sense of solidarity
where it's not like, you know, you could literally just say one word
like corona and everyone's like, right, well that's it. Yeah, we've
got one hundred percent, We've got mates. So one of my friends is
he always knew that his contract with his work was going to come up in
I think it finishes in June, and so he's been shitting it for ages
because he's known that it's been like a really good job. It's really it's
well paid for him, and at some point soon and he knows that he's
probably going to be ended up taking a pay cut and having to go into
a different industry, like that's just the way that it works for him.
But he's said to me that he feels so much more comfortable because everyone else
in this job hunting world, rather than him being like, my life is
spinning off its access, but no one else's it's not in a selfish way,
just in a life like you say, it's that solidarity thing of like,
oh maybe I'll actually be all right because we're all kind of being thrown
through the ring of it at the moment. Yeah, so yeah, I
totally agree, and I think that's what's keeping me going because I'm also very
aware, like you know, I don't like I'm checking my privilege, but
as I'm aware of my privilege that I'm you know, I'm enjoying being at
home, I'm just taking it as a different scenario that I'm living in him
that I'm really enjoy So I guess, yeah, I just try. And
I mean obviously, like I would like to be in London and I would
like for result to not be you know, cooped up indoors and whatever.
But like you just always it's easier said than done a lot of the time.
But I really try always to see the best side of things, and
there are a lot of positives to be in home. So can I just
say I love your nun. By the way, she's all right, I
think I don't really think she quite understands what's going on, and like she's
with it mentally, but like I think because obviously none of us understand,
but we're so constantly like reading things on Twitter and the news and whatever else,
and I just feel like for her, Like the other day, I
basically was like, we had a family funeral, and I was like,
you know, your grandma, you just really can't go. This was like
last Thursday, so a week ago now, when before it was that lockdown
stuff, but late enough into knowing that all people were vulnerable, but the
government hadn't said anything about it yet. And so we spoke the other day
and she was like, oh, well I've been I've been in lockdown now
for a week, so I'll be okay. I was like, no,
no, no, Grandma, you're you're in lockdown, like we're all,
do you know what I mean. I think there's just these little tip bits
of things where she was like, oh, I heard that if you're in
for a week, then you're fine after that. And I'm like, Grandma,
you're really truly like going to be in your house for a while and
we'll come and knock on the window and deliveras and stuff, you know.
So I think she's fine because she just like lives a little old person life
and we'll get to like way through the window and stuff. But yeah,
she's I mean she at once an icon, always an icon. Like the
lockdown is not going to stop her being an icon. She'll always be that.
And she's just I mean, we were ring her every day, so
she's amazing and actually she so she loves talking to us, and she like
we'll always related. Like someone's got two sisters, so she'll always relate to
the other sisters. Up, Oh Jane rang today or Jack said this,
and there's a boat. She only ever lets you talk to about five seconds
on the phone, and it's like the peak of the day. But she's
got anyway, love, I better go, And there's no there's no there's
no reason, no reason for her to leave. It's not like you know,
sometimes she'll be like, oh, I better go anyway, I love
taggets on and Tagget's not on. She's take Tag decides that she wants to
watch that second, And no, we really all learn a thing or two
because I feel like House Party the app, everybody's iconic, but we all
still don't know how to end conversations because normally you can go, oh,
anyway, I better go, I've got this thing on. Everybody knows you've
got shit all on because there's ship all to do, so all I was
just like, we've all had it for like at least a week now,
and I'm still like swiping out of Combos and then texting it being like,
oh my god, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize that i'd gone out
of the app and we can all do with growing a pair and doing what
my grandma doesn't go. Look, I'm sorry, I've really had enough.
Now I'm gonna go see like quit we after ahead because nobody's doing it like
her, that is it. I always try and say, oh, I'll
let you go, and pretend that they've got something on. Oh I'll let
you go. I know you must be rushed off your feet. I'll see
you later. I just tend to go a ball of anxiety and embarrassment and
just like I just wanted to ask about the music because I'm yeah, and
how you founding this time a kind of time where you're like in the mood
to kind of creatingto thing. Yeah, So I mean I sing with Joel
always, so like I do my kind of social media, you know,
daftness on my own, but like my music side is always with Joel,
so I feel like it's it's not because I'm not. He's the one who
plays the instruments and stuff, so if I'm making music, it tends to
be with him putting any producers and stuff, so like putting down beats or
whatever. So I feel like I do feel quite creative, but it doesn't
usually come out as music for me. It tends to be me doing like
Daft videos or like I see my creativity being able to come out in like
tweets or whatever. So I have this massive long list in my notes of
like, oh, I'm going to do this video, I'm going to do
this lip sync and this mime and whatever. So I think I will get
around to doing that soon because Lord knows, we're going to be in quarantine
the Turner for a while. Um. But yeah, no, not not
music directly, just like I did. Yeah, I just had to know.
The problem is I'm oh, oh, private ah, that's I miss
ashmore than anyone in the world. I didn't even know. I can't.
She was going to come up actually last week we're going to film loads VIDs,
but obviously then we got um locked down. So ultimately I think the
government at homophobic because she was going to provide so much gay entertainment. Yeah,
we've been new, what's new? But yeah, I mean I feel
like I'm face having people and actually communicating with people a lot more than I
ever. I mean, obviously for all faced having people more than normal,
but I feel like I'm actually talking to a lot of people more than had
I even been able to see them personally and stuff, which is a positive
of this all, I guess. I feel like we are connecting a lot
and reaching out, I think, and I think it will change the way
in which we interact with each other. I think it will change a lot
of things, the way in which we work remotely, the way in which
we just engage with each other. I think it will. Yeah, I
think we've been going like I feel like society has been moving towards the leniency
to be able to work from home for a lot of jobs for a while,
but now seeing that like absolutely can be done. Productivity can remain pretty
much the same in a lot of jobs. Like perhaps you know you have
your your Wednesday, everybody's in midweek, you know, human contacts, see
how things are going, and then be like you know what if you want
to work, because I know a lot of places like the forward thinking kind
of places. I've got a friend who works at Google and she was like,
nobody in top who was above you cares at what point of the day
you get your work done, as long as you get your work done.
So that obviously Google is, you know, a different to most companies,
but like they've got a massive gym at the King's Cross branch and they run
like kind of PTE led classes all day and if you want, you just
go to it at any point because they know as long as you're getting your
work, you know, and that kind of thing of just trusting workers to
get their work done because they hopefully enjoy their job. I know a lot
of people don't, but a lot of people do and could be given more
freedom because they can be trusted to have the freedom. Like yeah, it
last it was it last year. That was the year of realizing things.
I definitely it was I feel like doing like all the things, like even
like the stuff like today it's been yet free parking. They said it couldn't
be done and not yet it can be like this universal credit for people,
although it's still not die and I guess you. Yeah, we have to
hope that this is something that sticks in the public psyche post all this of
the like, because basically what they're doing as a universal basic income for most
people, which is what we've been wanting for ages and the Tories would never
do, and yet here we are. Or like homeless people have now been
put up in hotels in London only because of the kind of wealthier people and
the risk of them walking past them. So it's only obviously when it impacts
on the people that the political parties care about. But still, in a
time when we're spending so much money bailing people out, there's still now magically
enough money to help homeless people, when you would think this is the time
that they had the biggest excuse to not because oh, you know, all
our money has been stretched even more than normal. So like, all these
things are doable, and it's laughable that people like Corby or Bernie Sanders,
you know, their people's retort is, well, how on earth are they
going to find the money? Well, I think we found the money,
haven't you. So we've got to hope that people keep that fire under their
asses, because I could see a real restructure in of that kind of political
society given the situation we're in at the moment. Yeah, miss Rona is
the cultural reath there and like I you know what I mean, and as
terrible as all the things horrific happening medically and the strain it's putting, but
socially instructually should make people pause the thought. Definitely, Yeah, she's opening
her eyes. Um do you want to Oh God, David, what do
you think? No? Oh, a lot of people be scared. A
lot of people are intimidating, a lot of people are intimidating. Have you
seen that? Actually they've just done something with James. Yes. We don't
need to talk about it, though, do we we do. What we
should be talking about is when Rossa was doing fenty Beauty stuff, because the
fenty Beauty at marketing team. Honestly, haven't I got more or something?
Yeah? Yeah, niconic like to be she really do that? Like I
mean, I know there's not been any music, but like, it is
such an incredible brand with such a clear vision and it has completely disruptor of
them all. So yeah, yeah, this fenty and I'm excited for her
new music whatever it is. Honestly, she could sneeze on the beat in
this current climate, and I'd be like, and it would get thicker,
it would get on Friday has gone features on the song on Friday with Party
next Door yea, yeah, which shame that it's not all her but out.
I mean, we're getting content, that's what we want. But what
about you, Like, I just want to briefly, That's what I was
about to say. I just want to briefly like discuss, like, well,
how do you feel about the whole leaking thing? I was heartbreaking her
poor little face that why did you do this? I guess it's just it's
terrible. It's almost come from a place of loving us so much, right,
It's like, obviously it's not the right thing to do, but it
comes to a place of standom. It's not people trying to bring her down.
I think it's fancy, yeah, because they feel like we've waited so
long, and I get it. You have to hope that people will still
be streaming it just as much, but you know, with like um stupid
Love did well and that had been late before, but then the second week
it dropped down massively on the Billboard charts because I guess the Gaze had already
streamed the life out of it. Yeah, and that's the thing, and
I'm worried about that for this Doula Peak because like you to see how upset
she was, and I think if you've been working on something for so long,
I just think if you respect the artist, you should just respect the
way that they want to put it out. That's how. Yeah, and
that someone leaks it themselves or it is like like you know, or in
a thing where they're almost being held hostage by the label, like just like
it was coming out in about a bump, So just chill. Yeah,
I do think I don't know how like they should really have all the songs
kind of saved individually so that one album just can't leak like the whole down
thing. Yeah, but I guess we're quite close to when it was meant
to be coming out anyway. She's only brought it forward by what like,
so I guess it had to have been together all by now for like physical
stuff and whatever and like going through the final matters. Like yeah, like
I agree with you, because perhaps if it was meant to be out in
August or something, that would be a shitter. But I feel like perhaps
it's you can't get around it now. Yeah, well, I mean streaming
the new songs out today as well, and it's it's cracking. Yeah.
And also Little Mix as well, the new Little Mix one, Oh my
god. And Leanne's mullet. Oh she can pull off that, that that
Smithy's mullet. Like she's stunning enough to actually pull off. Yeah, and
I tell you who couldn't Aidan Zaane, Oh no, she wishes, she
wishes truly, Like it has been a really problematic season. I will just
say that, like anymore like who ell like like Britta and and so.
Yeah. Apparently apparently the British stuff, Um, I mean obviously always believe
victims, but as someone told me when I was like, oh, obviously
Britains canceled as well because of the secial harassment stuff. Apparently there's been like
her retort, well not just her retort to that, but apparently that's kind
of been um works through. I think in terms of like I don't obviously
I don't know, but I think it's definitely much less so and concrete Alison
Mossy Yeah then literally yeah, Alison b And also obviously it's that admittance but
I think I feel like somebody told me and I might be wrong, so
don't take me away on this, but that it was kind of sorted out
and some I mean, you can't really call it a misunderstanding, but I
do. I think it wasn't as bad as perhaps it's Some areas have told
us that it was, but I don't know if that's true. No,
I've heard the same thing, and I heard that on Bob and Menai's podcast
as well, who seemed kind of let they know the tea a little bit
about it. But right, I mean, I don't like, for me,
it's all about G G good and is it. Yeah, I'm loving,
I adore, I adore, but I feel like there are others Jan.
I'm here for Jan. Jan's great. Jada is just there are moments
of her, like her when she was in the bubble bath look last week
with the gold thing through her her, she just looked beautiful. And I
also think because a couple of widows looks haven't been amazing, we're forgetting how
phenomenal she was in her first episode, Like I was obsessed with her,
like that lip sync was so impassable. Yeah, So I think and also
obviously, Like I'm sad about rock them because of the ship's storms that are
still in it, and we've lost Rockham, you know, I think they
just chose not to get her. I mean, this is the thing we've
got. We've got so much to watch. Is there anything else that you're
watching? Have you got any recommendations for the girls? Oh? God,
I watch this for the gals. This one's the big one for the gal.
I watch everything, so I watched Everything Uplands, so I would say
I'm actually not watching Shit's Creek until the final season comes onto Netflix without It's
like my favorite thing ever finished. Grace and Frankie. I love This Is
Us. That's a gorgeous cry binger on Amazon. Oh my god, it's
It's the most beautifully told story of like not necessarily massive things happen. It's
not a big drama. It's just so gorgeously told, gorgeously acted, really
incredibly well directed and edited. It's really worth watching This Is Usum, I'm
going to get into Grazing at Me. I think I watched like a season
a while ago, but obviously we've got so many episodes of that on Prime,
and then I'm just going back and watching old stuff like Ugly Betty Desperate
Housewives with two of my absolute faves. Yeah, I need to that was
a classic. That was a classic, and I think I am gonna download.
I haven't got Disney Plus yet because I've been touched off my feet,
but I think I'm going to get it because everybody is raving about it.
I mean, that's so raven. You know what, Oh they are,
it's the future I can see. Yeah, yeah, that's me. I
mean, speaking of shows, has anyone gone onto Spanish Netflix? O my
god, there's a show called Lead. What is that, Alie? Yeah,
apparently it's there. Okay, I will I'll watch it. Then I
want to watch oh yes, yes, everything is included, no bars held.
I still need to watch the Gays, the d ls, that everything.
Oh yeah, efore he was good before, Oh my god. But
also I hope to be watching you on YouTube soon. I want to see
some bids. Yes, yes, well things things are in the works.
So um, hopefully we're waiting on a few things. But I had some
important, interesting chats, some exciting chat this week, so hopefully one of
them. This is, this is, this is I'll name it. Yeah.
I just want to go on, sorry Jack, go on, No,
no, I was I was only repeating myself out of BOARDOM. I
just want to. I just want to finish this episode with UM. I
want us too. I want to my first episode really um unexpected, unexpected
moments of joy that have happened to you being in quarantine over the last few
days. Oh, I'll start, I'll start. So this afternoon I walked
to living room and SWO was doing yoga with his entire work team on zoo.
Very cute, adorable. Oh yeah, you just like to see him
from behind? Shut up you, and then I kick cutted in four fingers
right. Wow, I've never heard Let's go a Little kitty. Oh come
on vocals? Yes? Well, oh Joe Joe on Life is about You?
That sounded like the riff out of Home Run by Me. Should be
Oh ast you dune? Oh quit, I'm gonna listen to her dream she
went to my college. Actually, fun fact about me should be went to
my college. She's icon and hugely slapped on. Yes, incredibly talented,
but do what the public do? Um? Well, I mean I don't
think I've had my moment of joy was definitely getting in the bathroom. Was
in the bathroom two hours and actually now I've got in the bath with me
for the first time actually, which is wow that he's never been in the
back with um. But yeah, we got in the bath and we had
a bottle of prosecca and that was my big names exactly. And we did
try and recreate bubblies in the fridge and yeah, we nearly smashed a wineglass
in the bath, so that stopped. David, have you got any or
do um no, No, it's just been widely normal and boring as always.
Um. Yeah, if you had any people sliding in? Have you
had anyone sliding into your DM? Now it's quarantine, No, it's quar
no, no, no, no, no, no one. I mean
I've had obviously the few people who just remember that you're alive, and you
know they're corning in the day and you know they just how are you?
We're not in the dmo Jesus you hear that? If you are, if
we've got a single one, Um and Jack, are you looking at the
moment Brenny one, absolutely not no. But we're in the eighth of Corona.
We don't know when they're going to come out of it. Um.
Yeah, I'm just I'm very It's not this like, oh I'm in the
pregnant, but as in like I just really am not in Like I'm not
actively averse to the idea, but I'm never ever looking at all, um,
Like I don't know, I just it sounds I just worked. Basically,
Ash is in who I've spoken about like my iconic little matey. I
love her so much and we spend so much time together that I need to
find someone who I like more than Ash, and that's never going to happen,
so I'd rather spend time with her, so like, yeah, I
don't know, I feel fine in that regard, just like if it happens,
it happens. But it's I'm not one of these It's like, oh
my god, I'm not on a boyfriend for five years, Like I'm okay,
do you know? Yeah for dea And actually, when you are one
of those people who are desperately looking for a boyfriend, doesn't make it some
poor choices totally, Whereas like who's on my level at this point? Like
honestly, who is on my level? I mean I've got yeah, yeah,
and like you know, who's doing it like me? The answer is
no, one, So why would I settle? Oh? Facts, facts
fact. That is a fantastic way to end the episode. H oh she
actually she made point right. Thanks so much to Jack for joining us on
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