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and only Bill Cunningham. All right, Billy Cunningham, and here we sit

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on this glorious Sunday night, having
witnessed the indictment of President Trump on Friday

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by Jack Smith, a special prosecutor, a Democratic henchman going after Republicans,

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which is what he's always done.
Very popular. The statement he made a

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three o'clock Eastern time on Friday was
short, to the point, provided nothing,

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but it again indicates that there's two
sets of justice, one for Democrats

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that are connected, and one for
Republicans, the outsiders, who are not

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connected. And you may have recalled
several months ago, I said that if

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you want to indict Donald Trump on
something, it'll happen, and if you

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want to lock him up, I
think the probability at this point of the

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Donald actually being sentenced to a federal
prison is better than fifty fifty, which

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to me is almost impossible to consider. How the head of government and head

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of state could be sent to prison
for behavior not nearly as egregious of what

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other Democrats have done in office and
outside. But there's two sets of justice,

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one for Democrats and won four Republicans. When Democrats and the George Floyd

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Riots of twenty twenty burned down billions
of dollars worth of property, thousands of

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businesses attacked, five hundred police officers, forty two murdered, property damishers,

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and the billions, there was little
or no indictments of any of those Democrats.

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When January six got out of hand, there was rioting inside the US

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capital. Very few people committed serious
offenses, and with that occurred, guess

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what, It's a massive federal government
to crack down on idiots who went into

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the Capitol, many of whom were
simply trespassers full court press. Even though

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the US GOUFPI warned the Mayor Bowser
of Washington, DC and others that guess

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what was going to happen? There's
going to be trouble inside the Capitol in

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January the sixth. It was predicted, but in a sense, Nancy Pelosi

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and the Democrats kept the capital unprotected, and that now you know what happened

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on January the sixth, might recall
a few months ago I brought out the

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probability that when the federal judge in
Miami ruled that there may be an ongoing

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criminal act being committed by the Donald
and his lawyers, there was a motion

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made by Jack Smith, who pierce
the attorney client privilege and to force Donald

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Trump's own lawyers to testify against Donald
Trump. And they did. The forty

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nine page indictment talks about lawyer one, Lawyer two, and lawyer three,

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and I don't know what you know. At some point the grand jury testimony

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would be released if those lawyers testified
a trial. Up to this point,

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it would not be released. But
I would imagine Donald Trump's own attorneys gave

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somewhat damning information to the special grand
jury in Miami and Washington, d c.

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And that provided the basis for a
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the indictments and why it happened,
the reason marl Lago was raided in August

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of last year, was that Secret
Service agents gave testimony contradicting what the lawyers

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for Donald Trump had given to the
federal court under oath. The federal judge

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wanted a sworn statement from the lawyers
that all classified documents had been turned over,

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and after several days, the lawyers
provided that information based upon conversations with

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Donald Trump that contradicted what the Secret
Service agents had said that they observed.

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So that caused the piercing of that
privilege between a lawyer and a client,

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because lawyers cannot participate in their clients
criminal acts with impunity. I have a

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lawyer coming up later, James Bogan, who does major criminal defense work,

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that's going to talk about the circumstances
where lawyers can be required or testify against

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their own clients. So this was
a full court press of the Biden administration

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to lock up the leader of the
opposition party to make it easier for Joe

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Biden to be reelected in twenty twenty
four. And I can only imagine that

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when they started this long, long, long investigation, it was going to

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result in what happened on Friday.
And I guess the Arrayment's going to be

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on Tuesday at three o'clock. If
federal prosecutors had and paneled a grand jury

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with subpoena power and obtained a search
warrant for all that Joe Biden's properties,

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and FBI agents put his aids,
secretary's administrative assistants, employees, and lawyers

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under oath to testify against Joe Biden, and scoured their phones and emails and

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confronted them with evidence to get them
to talk, otherwise they would be held

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accountable criminally, the agents would have
found exactly the same kind of alleged criminal

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misbehavior they found with Donald Trump.
They would have found that Joe Biden knowingly

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kept classified documents for many years and
at least five different locations, including the

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four years between his vice presidency and
presidency, having no power whatsoever to to

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classify anything, and honest agents unencumbered
by any political buyas of their own or

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their bosses, might have discovered that
Hunter Biden and his family members had access

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to the supposedly secret documents kept in
part in the garage on the floor where

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Joe Biden kept his corvette, and
that if the FBI and Defense intelligence agencies

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and fives the courts and Affidavis had
a full court press on Joe Biden and

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Hunter Biden starting in twenty nineteen.
Guess what, Joe Biden never would have

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elected president in twenty twenty. And
anyone if the FBI and the Department of

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Justice and the federal government wants to
get you, and you're a person that

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owns five hundred businesses and you love
to fight, you have lots of lawyers

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around you, guess what it's gonna
happen. They're gonna get you. But

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they did not want to get Hillary
Clinton. And guess what they didn't They

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did not want to get Bill Clinton
and all the sins and crimes he committed

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in office before and after. But
he was an insider. You might recall

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that Hillary Clinton, as a young
attorney, served on the Watergate Committee.

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She was connected, and the Clinton
Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation hired dozens

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and dozens of the insiders family members
to work and get paid large salaries.

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They know, the Clintons know where
the bodies are buried, as does the

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Obamas. Right now, they're the
insiders making big bucks. But Donald Trump

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is not an insider, never has
been, never will be. And so

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when the federal government started fighting Donald
Trump, it's his character to fight back.

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If the Department of Justice and paneled
a grand jury and executed numerous search

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warrants on Hillary Clinton's office and home
in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, twenty

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fourteen, and seized her private computer, server, phones, electronic devices,

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put her aids under oath before grand
juries and offer them deals, the FBI

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would have found thousands and thousands of
unsecured, critical TopSecret CSI documents that were

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still in her possession long after she
left the Department of State. More than

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two thousand documents with Hillary Clinton deemed
to be classified her top secret were recovered

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from her devices in twenty fifteen and
twenty sixteen, and she deleted thirty three

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thousand others. That's a total north
of thirty five thousand crimes that she committed.

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But FBI just accepted what Hillary Clinton
said. And some of those top

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secret emails made their way onto the
computers and service of Uma Abadeen, her

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top assistant, That also made their
way into the email else of Anthony Weiner.

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How about that one, Anthony Weiner, You know, mister danger,

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that guy and no big deal.
James Comy gave him her a complete free

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pass. It was unbelievable that could
happen in this country, and it happened,

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and it happened repeatedly, and it
continues to happen. And so now

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Donald Trump is facing serious charges and
if they want to get him, they're

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gonna get him. And God knows, heaving crossed the rubicon, they now

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want to get him badly. And
I think they're gonna get him one way

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or another. They're gonna keep going
until they put him actually in prison.

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Unbelievable. And this is in light
of a US Supreme Court decision that says

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the president and the president alone can
declassify any material. Now, it may

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not have been good to have these
top secret documents and boxes in bathrooms and

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on stages at Marlago, But under
a US Supreme Court decision, a nine

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zip decision it's called the Navy versus
Egan case, unanimous decision US Supreme Court

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written by Judge Harry Blackman go down
in history as the author of Roe versus

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Wade that killed millions of babies.
He wrote the opinion and said the president's

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ability to classify and control access to
national security information flows from the Constitution.

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He decides, and he alone decides, quote unquote. So Trump, who's

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facing these charges in connection with classified
documents, can put it wherever he wants

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and handle however however he wants to
handle. It may not be good to

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put these boxes in and around a
fancy bathroom with a chandelier, but the

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president has the right to do it. There's thirty one counts of violating the

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Espionage Act through willful retention of classified
records. Well, president, under this

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US Supreme Court decision nine ZIP,
has the power to declassify him, and

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he said. Trump has said I
did declassify him. And if he declassified

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him, guess what, They're not
classified anymore. The press it may be

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bad form to put him in a
bathroom, but it's legal now. There

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was a meeting with the so called
biographer in which Donald Trump said he could

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have declassified documents while he was still
president, but added now I can't.

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But he has also said time and
time again that all the materials in mar

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Lago are all declassified. I said, they're de classified, and this US

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Supreme Court decision says he can do
that. And also the boxes of documents

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found in the bathroom and a stage
at mar Lago, among other places.

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The US Supreme Court said if Trump
declassified him while he was president, they're

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not classified documents. According to US
Supreme Court, the president can classify and

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he controls access to national security information
however he wants. And I also would

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point out that the Presidential Records Act
was not included in the indictment. That's

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the normal course of business. And
so Hillary Clinton, thank god, was

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never the president. Everything she did
was numerous nasty felonies, including allowing Uma

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Habdeen and her husband Anthony Wiener to
have access to the nation's greatest secrets.

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There she is again, did she
walk on this deal? Absolutely correct,

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unbelievable. So this is selective prosecution
and we'll see where it goes. My

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Gosha we in trouble coming up later. I know she set to go the

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Clinton Global Initiative, and the Clinton
Foundation was a ruse. It was a

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fraud, just shut down with over
ninety five percent of the moneys went to

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salaries and benefits, little or no
money was given for charitable reasons, and

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it ripped off the people of Haiti
and got away with it with a phone

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system. It simply goes on and
on and on. It's called selective prosecution.

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Selective prosecution. Let's continue. Coming
up later, we also have Daniel

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Greenfield, who has the origins of
all this. The Obama Book is Barack

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Obama's true legacy. Also later on
is Judge A Mule, the par of

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the Sixth Circuit that wrote a fabulous
book on Clarence Thomas. We're gonna have

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him on also later tonight to talk
about he's on the Sixth Circuit US Court

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of Appeals. He's written a book, The People's Justice, that's coming up

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later too. So I want to
spend mainly tonight talking about your feelings as

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a citizen that the United States of
America versus Donald J. Trum having been

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indicted for behavior other presidents have done
in spades and nothing came of it,

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but this particular case, they want
to indict and incarcerate the leader of the

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opposition party during an election. Let's
continue. We have Nick and Eddie and

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Steven, thousands of others when the
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twenty third, and Team o Bluna
streaming AM. It was beautiful Lindsey Graham

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this morning going after George Stephanopolis at
the clock of double standards. I mean,

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it's it's unbelievable. And George Stephanopolis
wanted to change the subject in a

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hurry because, as you might remember, at some point, Senator Lindsey Graham

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is South Carolina reminds George Stephanopolis that
Bill Clinton, he refers to him as

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your former boss, committed numerous felonies
in office and there was no prosecution whatsoever.

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Ken Starr, who was put through
hell by the medium by the Democratic

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Party, decided not to indict Bill
Clinton after he left office. And there

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were some comments at the time that
maybe Push forty three would appoint a special

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prosecutor to go after Bill Clinton and
Hillary Clinton, etc. And Push forty

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three said, no, we need
to move on. Well, we don't

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do that to former presidents. We
don't criminalize a policy dispute. We don't

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do that. So it's kind of
beautiful. It's only about forty five seconds

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or a minute long when Senator Graham
goes after George Stephanopolis. That was beautiful,

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and Dana Bash was bashed this morning
on CNN by several Republican guests about

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the double standard, and all the
media can do the double standard, is

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pointed out, is simply to move
on and change the subject matter because it's

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so obvious even to them. But
there is no media circus. There's no

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media squad going after Bill Clinton after
he left office in order to indict him

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for lying to federal judges. In
fact, there's no effort right now by

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anybody to go after the FBI agents
who are oath on affidavits to get warrants

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defies accords. Not much is happening
there either. In fact, most of

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those involved are expert guests and spokesman
and commentators on CNN. They're experts now,

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they get paid big bucks, take
their pensions and run. But that

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game is not played by those who
work for Donald Trump. And so in

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my political viewpoint, this makes it
more likely that Trump will be the nominee

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of the Republican Party, and it's
more likely that Democrats think that he can't

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be reelected in twenty twenty four because
suburban nights. The twenty percent kind of

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going back and forth left and right, are not going to vote for someone

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under active felony indictments. And we're
only halfway through this thing. I would

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assume that the Fulton County prosecutor,
Fanny Willis is going to bring more criminal

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charges against Donald Trump and try him
in front of Atlanta Fulton County jury that

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will convict Donald Trump. And I
would assume a New York City jury is

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going to convict Donald Trump of whatever
he's charged with there and then see what

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happens on appeal. But even if
Trump is elected to the presidency, which

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over Joe Biden, I pray that
occurs if he pardons himself or whatever,

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he cannot pardon himself on state charges. So what happened in New York and

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what's going to happen in Atlanta,
the federal president cannot affect whatsoever. It's

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been a matter of courtesy among Republicans
and Democrats. When Nixon left office,

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there was no effort by state prosecutors
to file criminal charges against Richard Nixon,

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and there was no effort by Republican
prosecutors in two thousand and one to go

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after Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton as
simply as a matter of courtesy. But

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now that's been broken, I would
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going to go after Democrats like Joe
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that that rule has been broken,
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So let's continue. I want to
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line becomes available eight six six six
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it's evil, it's wrong. We're
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of the United States, head of
government, head of state. When he

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says I declassified all the documents that
I took tomorrow lago, there are no

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classified documents here, despite what he
said on tape to his biographer, that's

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what he says. I like to
see the evidency as because US Supreme Court

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case has ruled nine ZIP that a
president can do exactly what Trump says he

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did, and Harry Blackman wrote that
decision nine ZIP in the late nineteen seventies.

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Let's continue with more. Your calls
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seven seven three three seven, Bill
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evacuation and investigation, police found nothing. It's back open now. This after

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the same thing happened. Kroger says
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local law enforcement to find the Hoaxer
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next update is at eleven o'clock.
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stations, Rover's Morning Glories. So
here we go in another political show trial

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that should happen. And maybe Uruguay
or Paraguay, whether party in power seeks

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to imprison opposition, if Trump had
robbed a bank, raped women, if

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Trump had committed murder and burglary,
committed other crimes, that's one thing.

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This is a made up paper offense
in which papers are forming the ability of

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the Democratic Party to declare who the
Republican nominee should be other than the leader

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of the Republican Party, when the
Democrats have engaged in worst behavior of a

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similar character without any insult whatsoever from
the FBI, which is now held in

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contempt by about seventy percent of the
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I'm talking about the leadership of the
FBI. There's an FBI building about a

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half a mile from my sacred studio
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men and women, the rank and
file in the offices are outraged generally as

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far as what's happening at the leadership
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Fact. Next Sunday night, I
have Thomas Baker coming back on. He

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was with us about six months ago
about what happened to the FBI and oh,

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my god, is it in trouble
or what It's unbelievable, what's happened

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to the leadership of the FBI.
They've become entirely too political. During the

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days of Louis Free and Judge Webster, none of this would have occurred.

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There was a wall of separation the
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FBI and the other. Now they
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it appears charges have been made against
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participated and contributed to the Democrat Party. And of course MSNBC, George Stephanopolis

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and the mainstream media are completely bought
and sold with the idea of get Republicans

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wherever they might be, including Tim
Scott, including Clarence Thomas, especially Black

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Republicans must be gotten and it must
be gotten hard, especially if you're a

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black Conservative. They come after you
harder than every They so called ethical lapses

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of justice Clarence Thomas have all passed
muster by the ethics and the moral police

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of the US judiciary. They have
a particular outfit that looks into that.

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No problem, but that has never
told to you by the mainstream media.

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You can have rich friends who take
you on their plane and fly year around

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and it's okay, I mean,
no problem. And you can buy homes

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of justice as mothers and use it
as a possible library or possible museum of

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the future. No problem. All
of that's past constitutional muster in the ethics

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standards of the US judges, but
none of that is reported. Have you

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ever read a positive story about Clarence
Thomas, A good story on sixty minutes

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of where he came from and is
writing He's so literate and so bright.

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So none of that has ever covered. But how many glowing stories did you

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read about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. They
were constant and unremitting. Nothing negative was

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ever said. But Clarence Thomas,
nothing good can be said. So this

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morning, this is George Stephanopoli's ABC
News Sunday Morning with Senator Graham of South

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Carolina and George Stephanopolis, a committed
leftist, on ABC did not want to

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hear this. Danny boy Gleason hit
it, Well, here's what I believe.

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We live in in America where if
you're the Democratic candidate for president,

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Hillary Clinton secretary of state, you
can set up a private server in your

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basement to conduct government business and when
an investigation has had about your activity,

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now, let me finish. But
you didn't, Actually that was ridiculous.

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Well, yeah, I'm trying to
answer the question from a Republican point of

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view that may not be acceptable on
this show. Yes, I don't like

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what President Trump did in certain aspects. I don't like that Joe Biden had

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classified information on the garage. I
don't like that Mike carelessly took classified information.

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I don't like any of that.
But what I don't like is a

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system in a miracle where the secretary
of State who's a Democratic candidate for president,

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has people take a hammer to social
media devices and break them apart,

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apply beach Bleach bit to a hard
drive, to race emails, allow classified

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information to get on a felon's computer. Anthony Wiener, you haven't even mentioned

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that. Most Republicans believe we live
in a country where Hillary Clinton did very

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similar things and nothing happened to her. President Trump will have his day in

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court. But espionage charges are absolutely
ridiculous. Whether you like Trump or not,

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He did not commit espionage. He
did not disseminate, leak, or

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provide information to a foreign power or
to news organization to damage this country.

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He is not a spy. He's
over charge. Did he do things wrong,

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Yes, he may have. He
will be tried about that. But

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Hillary Clinton wasn't your old boss.
Committed perjury in a civil lawsuit, lost

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his law license, obstructive justice in
a dozen ways, and he didn't get

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prosecuted. I know he was in
peace, but he wasn't prosecuted. You've

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made, you've made, You've made
your point. There you go with stored

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George Stephanopolis, your former boss.
He lost his law license. Hey,

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centator, Hey he lost his law
license. He wasn't going to prison for

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twenty years. You've made, you've
made, You've made your point. Well,

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that's what we're dealing with. And
sadly, juries in Atlanta, in

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New York City, maybe Washington,
DC, down the road, who are

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ninety percent committed leftists are going to
decide the fame of the leadership of the

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Republican Party and in Miami. I
don't know what's going to come to that.

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Well, it's a break for Donald
Trump that the Jack Smith prosecutor alleges

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that most of the criminal so called
behavior took place in the southern district of

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Florida and not in Washington, d
C. Where you cannot get a fair

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shake whatsoever. It's amazing. And
Dana Bash also had some difficulties this morning

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because she doesn't want to hear about
Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton or Mike Pence

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who committed a reckless act. And
the statutes deal with intent or gross negligent.

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Can anyone not say that having classified
documents in a cardboard box in the

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garage is not at a minimum gross
negligence on the part of Joe Biden.

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How did it get there? How
long has it been there? Why were

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they moved? Penn University of Pennsylvania
funded by the Communist Red Chinese, thousands

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of secret documents were found there with
access to the Communist Red Chinese and the

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so called Joe Biden Center. What
came of that? The answer is absolutely

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nothing. Is there any doubt in
your mind that when Joe Biden leaves office

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and I pray to God his vertical
and not horizontal, that when he leaves

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office, he's not going to face
a criminal investigation. He's not going to

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have a Republican prosecutor going after him. He's not going to have his age

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put under the hot white lamps to
testify, and if they make a misstatement,

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to be indicted for perjury. That
only happens to Republicans. It does

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not happen to Democrats. And it's
sad and the standard. I would hope

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the case written by Harry Blackman nineteen
eighty eight case it's called Navy versus Egan

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unanimous decision that Justice Blackman wrote that
wrote the opinion and said the president's ability

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to classify or declassify and control access
to national security information flows from the Constitution.

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He asides, he alone decides,
quote unquote, there's no procedure one

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has to go through. The president
can do it. And he has said

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repeatedly, I declassified all the documents
that went to mar Lago if he can

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prove that there's no crime, because
nothing at mar Lago would then be classified.

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Despite the protestations of the President himself
to his biographer and special counsel,

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Jack Smith, has thirty seven different
counts saying the same thing, but a

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unanimous US Supreme Court said Trump can
declassify anything he wants to declassify, and

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the president said he did. Unbelievable. Dana Bashed asked this morning Jim Jordan,

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my friend from Central Ohio, asked
him about one part of the indictment,

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alleging that while at the Bedminster,
New Jersey home and golf club,

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that Trump showed a biographer a classified
military attack plan and a pack official at

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classified map involving a country where the
US has ongoing military operations. Okay,

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what if all the information he showed
were all declassified while he was president?

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Then what well, if they're all
declassified, then there's no crime. The

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President has said time and time and
time again he declassified all these materials.

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And if that's the case, this
case goes away quickly. And also there

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were boxes found and the president's bathroom
and a stage, etc. That may

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not be a good policy. But
what if all of them were declassified or

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that case they're pieces of paper,
It can be done. According to that

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US Supreme Court decision, the President
of the United States can classify and or

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declassify and control access to any and
all national security information and however he wants.

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And if that's the case, you
can't obstruct when there's not an underlying

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crime to obstruct, it's not a
crime. And also to point out the

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Presidential Records Act was not included in
the indictment. The it's normal course of

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business. So I'm anxious to see
the pre trial motions and how this will

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be decided. And of course the
Democrats do not want a resolute before November

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of next year. They won this
hanging over the electorate for the next what's

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seventeen months. They don't want Donald
Trump to walk out of a courtroom in

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West Palm or Miami having been found
not guilty of all charges because of jury

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nullification. They do not want that. They want this to be pending without

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a resolution. Then what happens in
January or February of twenty twenty five,

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when a trial takes place and the
presidents found not guilty. Where does he

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go then to get back his good
name? That's the plan. I know.

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Jack Smith said that he wants a
speedy trial. It's not in the

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interest of the Democrat party to have
a speedy trial. What if he's found

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not guilty. If he has found
not guilty, he's the next president.

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He can pardon himself, but he
can't pardon himself on state charges. And

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the Democrats will not stop until they
locked this guy up. It is really

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unbelievable what we're watching. So let's
take some telephone calls. Bottom of the

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next hour. We have an eminent
criminal offense attorney talking about the strategies.

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Later on we have Judge and Mule
the par who wrote the defensive work,

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and Justice Clarence Thomas also later on
his Daniel Greenfield on the book Barack's Barack

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Obama's True Legacy that's coming up.
And then next Sunday night, we're gonna

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try to get on Thomas Baker,
FBI agent who wrote the book on how

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the FBI has lost its way completely
used to be respected now it is not.

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I'd love to have Christopher Ray be
asked by I don't know, Senator

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jd Vance of Ohio. I love
to have why does seventy percent of the

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American people, why have we lost
respect for the leadership of the FBI.

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Why is that? What have you
done? What's happened? And it's a

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great question because they've become political attack
dogs at the top for the Democrat Party.

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Let's continue. Thousands and old millions
are listening. Let's go to Robert

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and Maryland. Robert and Maryland,
Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Robert,

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how are you? What are you
gotten? I'm doing good. I

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read the indictment and everything, and
I saw some of the film that Trump

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which he convicted hisself. He convicted
his self by opening his mouth. If

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I was one of his attorneys,
I tell them to shut that hecup and

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don't say anything. But he's not
that that. That's kind of uh closing

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do after, you know, let
the horse shout in the barn. Well,

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he say to himself, you can't
say. You can't say it,

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but you know it's not right that
you said that the Democrats did it.

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When he did it to himself,
explain what did he do? Be specific

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one, when he said, uh, he was gonna um when he said

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he did he hadn't classified some of
the uh, some of the favorites that

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he had, especially one on the
defense and the one he got poop for

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him and his h his valet aide. That's talking about uh, you know,

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he didn't classified and when He also
got him on tape on tape showing

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that he uh, you know,
saying that he uh he he did this,

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but he didn't classily classified. You
cannot he classify something by a Jedi

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mind trick. Let me get you
some reference on mind so you know,

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I'm coming from a place that I
know what I'm talking about. I was

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saying that Headquarters Marine Corps. Uh. For four years, I was communications

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chief, and I would do it
the walker to the walker spot case.

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So you know which was in trouble
for that? He need Donald Trump.

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His biggest problem right now is mouth. But I mean, according to the

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President. I'm referring to Donald Trump, he declassified all the information that went

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tomorrow logo. Now, if that's
the case, I'm waiting to hear specifically,

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what did you do that caused the
classification to transpire. Could it be

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a mental gyration? I hope not. Maybe there's an order, maybe there's

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a letter, maybe there's a document
before noon on January the twenty, twenty

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twenty one, and I'm waiting to
hear it. He has said everything that

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I had was to classified and his
statement, now that's what he said.

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You know, I respect number one. I respect your service, Robert,

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and thank you for it. But
you don't have the power or in the

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military. Did the classify anything but
the president, according to this your Supreme

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Court decision, has unanimous a sole
power to do it. And I'm waiting

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to hear what it is. I'll
say, he did not do it.

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How do you know that he did
not do it? No, he didn't

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emit, he didn't do it.
He has said repeatedly that he classified all

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the material he took tomorrow lago,
and then he had this conversation in July

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of twenty twenty one. He also
said it was in my mind. I'm

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waiting to hear. Okay, explain
to me. Pursue it to this US

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Supreme Court decision nine zip. Does
there have to be a physical manifestation If

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you're the president and you say it's
to classify, you don't have to notify

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anybody that you cannot see the president, not even the president to say emany

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00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.719
bobba de booh, this is the
classify So you know, uh, you

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00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.400
know through No, he cannot do
that. Well, let's wait. I

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00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.880
want to wait. The president said
he did it. I want to see

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I want to see the evidence Robert, I need to see the evidence.

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00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.599
We gotta run, but I need
to see the evidence, Robert. Thank

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00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.159
you for your a call. I
got up against the clock, but thank

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you for your service. And for
him to say, in my mind,

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I did it? Is that sufficient? According US Supreme Board decision, only

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the president can do that. Is
that sufficient? I don't know. Let's

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00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.119
wait to see the evidence. I'm
an attorney, I've been in age for

445
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.320
eight years. I want to see
the evidence. Bill cunning and the Great

446
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:37.480
American with you every Sunday night join
the red Donald Trump. And that's bad

447
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:44.840
news for Jack Smith. And it
also appears in previous Trump type of decisions.

448
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:51.400
She's applied to constitution and according to
one media account there the liberals are

449
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.039
very unhappy with this particular judge being
assigned to the case. In fact,

450
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.800
I watch MSNBC so you don't have
to then head on guests it said that

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00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:07.599
Judge Alane Cannon can absolutely sink the
federal prosecution of Donald Trump by applying the

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standard in the nineteen eighty eight Unanimous
Supreme Court case Navy versus Egan, in

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which it is stated herein that only
the president has the ability to classify or

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declassify, control access the national security
information, and it flows from the constitution.

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00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.039
Quote he decides, he alone decides. So if Trump can prove directly

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or indirectly that I declassified all the
documents that one from Washington, DC tomorrow

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00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:43.719
lago, there's no obstruction of a
crime that doesn't exist. She could scuttle

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00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.280
the whole case. Wow, let's
continue with your calls. Bill Cunningham,

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as radio's best, the recipient of
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Awards for he is broadcast excellence,
the one and only the old cunning Head.

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Honest, continue with your cause.
I love to call from from Randy

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00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:02.639
from Maryland because he served in the
military and at first, plush. It

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00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.639
may seem ridiculous that Trump could say, well, I can do it,

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just thinking in my head it's declassified
and it's done. So it doesn't seem

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right to me. But I've read
the Navy versus Egan decision of nineteen eighty

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eight. Unanimously US Supreme Court said
only the president, based on the US

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00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:27.480
Constitution, can decide what is and
what is not classified. Now the manner

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of expression of what's in the Constitution
is a different matter. How do you

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00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.599
don't know? I know. There's
lots of legal issues involved in this matter,

476
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including the fact that Trump's own attorneys
were required to testify against their client

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under oath because it appears that Secret
Service agents provide information also under oath to

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00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:53.000
Jack Smith, the Democratic Special Prosecutor, that the information provided by Donald Trump

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and his attorneys was inaccurate, that
there were classified documents at Marlago. But

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if he declassified him while still in
office, guess what, They're not classified

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00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.039
documents. The whole case blows up. Have you heard about that from the

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mainstream media? I don't think so. So let's go back to the cause.

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I love the call from Maryland because
I love men and women that have

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served in the military, the step
forward and say, well, I know

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in my declassification world, I gotta
be real careful, Bill. That's a

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difference between no matter who, even
a Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense,

487
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.480
all a million and a half in
the military do not have the power

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of the president. According the US
Constitution, he has the ability to classify,

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to classify, control access to national
security information because it flows from the

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Constitution. And that's it. President
says it. That's it. Now.

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Did he say it while he was
still in office? Trump said he did.

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I'm anxious to see what exactly that
is. Let's go to San Diego,

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the home of the home of course, of the Padres who are not

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00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.199
playing very well this year, Jack
and San Diego. Welcome to the Bill

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00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.880
Cunningham Show. Jack, please go
ahead. Well, first, there is

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no procedure for the president to follow
correct to declassify. In other words,

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he doesn't have to do ABC to
declassify something. If he says it's declassified,

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or if he thinks it's declassified,
he's not required to do more than

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00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.159
that. He doesn't need Congress's approval, he doesn't need the approval of The

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00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.159
New York Times or George Stephanopolis.
He can simply say it is declassified,

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00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.719
and according to this unanimous decision nineteen
eighty eight, it's over. That's it

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00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.719
done. That's correct. In other
words, there is no procedure for him

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to follow. Now. Second,
the documents were moved pursuant to the Presidential

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Records Act, not the Espionage Act. Correct. The Espionage Act has nothing

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to do with this. And the
judge on Tuesday should throw this case out

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of court. There's a fear,
there's a fear that because she's quote a

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Trump appointee, that that might happen. It won't happen on Tuesday, but

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it has to be pre trial motions. But I would imagine there's lots of

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00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.800
pre trial motions being filed, being
prepared right now to throw the case out

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under rule six P and other rules
that they failed or stay to claim the

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cause of action because if the President
said they were to classified, they already

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classified. There's no obstruction. The
case disappears. Well. What I found

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00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:39.199
was particularly irritating today was Bill Barr
being interviewed by Ye Shannon Bream saw on

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Fox he threw Trump under the bus. But let me remind everybody, Bill

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Barr did not advise his client,
Donald Trump, on any particular procedure to

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00:44:53.559 --> 00:45:00.800
move these documents. He didn't advise
Trump one way or the other. But

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00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:06.239
now he's saying, oh, this
is a great espionage case. He doesn't

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00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.920
know what he's talking about. He's
a swamp creature. And here's what I

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00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:17.039
have been told is going to happen
on Tuesday as they're going to make emotion.

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00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:23.000
That is the government to put Donald
Trump under house arrest and pull his

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00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:30.480
passport. They don't want him campaigning
all over the country doing his rallies,

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so watch for that. Now,
there is something that is developing that is

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never been thought of before, and
that is President Biden and his capacity as

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00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:52.440
commander in chief is subject to the
Uniform Code of Military Justice and can be

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court martialed. So what I'm saying
is a warning. If this case isn't

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thrown out a court on Tuesday,
for repercussions all over the country, will

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00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.440
you call me next Sunday, night
Jack and tell me let's have this conversation

528
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.519
again after the judge takes a look
at this case, because they're going to

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00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.880
try to get her off the case
because she has ruled in favor of the

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00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.519
Trumpster a couple of times now,
it's gone up to eleven circuit on appeal

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00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.119
and she lost each time. But
she is a judge who's going to follow

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the constitution. But you call me
next Sunday, United to see if any

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of that happens, Well, I
will. And here's the irony, and

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I'll leave you with this thought,
is that the government wants me to believe

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that Donald Trump is giving aid and
comfort to the enemy. And what is

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he doing selling information, taking bribes? So here's the irony. Guess what

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00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:50.519
you just described President Biden? Well, five million dollars. You know,

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00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:54.480
when the FBI whistleblower released the information
a few days ago that Hunter and Joe

539
00:46:54.519 --> 00:47:00.360
Biden got five million dollars each,
the mainstream ABCNBC, and CBS had no

540
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:06.480
report from the FBI that the sitting
president took a five million dollar bribe when

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he was the vice president the mainstream
media under the Espionage Act. And if

542
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.239
he's not, he may be courtmore
shalt how about that? Will you call

543
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.199
me next Sunday? If you got
the guts, Jack, you call me

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00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.440
next Sunday. We'll talk about see
what happens on Tuesday. Thank you God,

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00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.719
bless America. Let's go to Paul
and Idaho, the home of the

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00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.840
Potatus. Paul, Welcome to the
Bill Cunningham Show, and Paul, please

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00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:36.559
go ahead. Yeah, I just
good evening, Bill. Thank you.

548
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.559
Yes, sir, I wanted to
say him. I was really made me

549
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.920
very happy to hear that you had
such a nice spiritual journey to the Holy

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00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.599
Oh. I'll tell you what.
When you walk up the stations of the

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00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.039
Cross and end where Jesus was crucified, going in the tomb of Joseph,

552
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:59.920
then you spend time in the Jordan
River, you spend time at Massada,

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00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.920
you go to the Dead Sea,
you go to Bethlehem, you go to

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00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:07.840
Nazareth, you go. I always
spend five days in Jerusalem. And the

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00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.639
main difference between a Jew and a
Catholic is through those gates of the Old

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00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.079
City, as I stood there and
watched him. If you go to if

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00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:16.920
you go to my Twitter account,
I got a few pictures of me on

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00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:22.840
a camel. The Jews say the
Messiah will come, Christians say the Messiah

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00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:29.039
will come again. That's essentially the
difference. And I loved, I loved

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00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.800
being in Jerusalem, and I love
the Jewish people. Yeah, it was

561
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.519
nice to hear what you had to
say when you first got back. Yes,

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00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:37.920
I didn't. I didn't get tough
on my call, but it was

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00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.159
nice to hear what you had to
say. Yes, Um, you know,

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00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.880
I'm not going to touch what this
gentleman caller just called in about.

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00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.440
I can't beat, so I'm not
going to talk about that. But I

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did have a u a question,
and I was wondering how your fellow Ohio

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00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:59.840
and are doing as far as East
Palestine is concerned. Well, you know,

568
00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:04.159
I'm gonna have on a Senator a
Jada Avance, who's on top of

569
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.639
this thing, next Sunday. I'm
gonna have him on to talk about it.

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00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.519
It's largely gone out of the news. And I know the governor Mike

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00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:17.079
DeWine. I talked to Mike uh
Monday or Tuesday, and there's a clinic

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set up. They're getting the information
of the Ohio Department of Health. We

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00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.519
have every anticipation here that the federal
ignore this in a hurry, but the

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00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.239
Ohigh Department of Health is going to
stay with it. Biden seems to have

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gone back on his word. Sure
he did, I remember he says he

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was going to come and visit you
guys down there. Never did and he's

577
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:43.079
not gone to. No, you're
not blewing us down there for no.

578
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.760
I know Ohio it is a red
state. Kentucky's a red state, you

579
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:50.800
know, right. If you take
If you take Ohio, Kentucky in Indiana,

580
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.280
throw in Idaho, Montana, North
and South Dakota. I'll tell you

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what great Americans live here, no
matter what race, description, orientation.

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I love living in Ohio because I
think this is the greatest part of the

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greatest country in the world. I
know every night I get all angry about

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what's going on, but nonetheless,
this is a great place to live the

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United States of America, and I
think the best parts are the ones I

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reference. The best place to be
is in the red cities and the Red

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states because it's functional. That's why
the blue cities and the Blue states are

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00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:23.239
losing population. Their schools stink,
crime is rampant, there's no job creation,

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00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:28.400
it's expensive, taxes are confiscatory,
and don't get me started on that.

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00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.000
But the media doesn't cover that either, do they. No, no,

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00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:36.000
no, they won't do it.
Yeah, but I'll make them look

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bad. They won't do that.
Exactly right. Well, thank you,

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Paul, give my best to all
the great folks in Idaho, and God

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bless you. And I tell you
what, if I have another chance to

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go to Israel and spend time with
those special people, I'll do it in

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a heartbeat. And one cannot go
through the Holocaust Museum. We only spend

597
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:57.079
three hours there and come out of
it other than the great respect. You

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00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:01.639
talk about discrimination against individuals. They've
gone through about three thousand years of discrimination.

599
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They've been beaten, murdered, crucified, they've been killed, they've been

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thrown into the ovens, dispersed all
over the world. When they came back

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to Israel in nineteen forty eight and
founded the greatest country in the Middle East,

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that that was God's representative on earth. And I tell you what,

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I'm proud of what the Jewish people
have done for in Israel. And it's

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00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.400
only I think it's only going to
get it's only going to get better.

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They've benefit themselves. I'm really proud
for them to do that. Yes,

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I'm glad to be an American and
to support them. Yes. Well,

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00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.159
all right, thank you, thank
you very much. All let's continue,

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take a short break and at the
bottom of about fifteen minutes from now.

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Criminal defense attorney James Bogan's going to
talk about the defenses available to Donald Trump.

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Later on, as Judge the par
of the Sixth Circuit US Court of

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00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.519
Appeals, it's got a new book
out on Clarence Thomas. The greatest justice

612
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:57.840
now that Nanton Scalia has died is
Justice Thomas. And he's written a book,

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00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.119
The People's Choice Available, And I
am as Judge the par And then

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00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:07.159
later on also is Daniel Greenfield.
It's written a book on Barack Obama's true

615
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.440
legacy. We're seeing him played out
right now. Is true true legacy?

616
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:13.199
This is gonna be a long haul. Are you in it for the long

617
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.159
haul? As an American? You
want to give up and stop? I

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00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:20.360
pray not. We're in it for
the long haul. We knew months and

619
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.679
months ago this day was coming,
and we knew Tuesday was coming. We

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00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:29.000
know it's going to come into land
in Fulton County. It's gonna happen New

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00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.599
York City, New York County.
It's gonna happen there too, And they're

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00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:36.960
gonna keep going till they lock him
up. And the only way to stop

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00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.840
it, I think is to elect
Donald Trump and elect Republicans wherever you can

624
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:44.760
find them, because the Democrats and
the media are banking on the fact that

625
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:49.920
you'll be so disgusted with the leaks
and the reported behavior of Donald Trump,

626
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.480
you'll forget about what the Clintons did
and what the Bidens are doing and things

627
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:59.599
of that character. And I love
Representative Jim Jordan. This morning with CNN

628
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.199
stay in Bash got into a heated
exchange. I'm going to see if Danny

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00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:07.480
boy Clice and my producer can play
that on the other side. Nineteen minutes

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00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.119
after the hour, Bill Cunning of
the Great American Live with You every Sunday

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00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:17.199
night, September our iHeartRadio Music Festival
is I think you and I've been around

632
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.840
a long time, and I'm telling
you now, this is the damnedest thing

633
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:27.199
I've ever seen. That the leader
of the opposition party can be indicted,

634
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:34.440
possibly jailed, and taken inability to
run for political office on the fact that

635
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:40.239
he allegedly had some papers in boxes
shrewn about a bathroom and maybe a stage

636
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:45.719
that is multimillion dollar summer retreat.
And that's somehow because of that, we

637
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.920
have to forget about what's happening in
America right now? What's happening in your

638
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:54.679
life? Gasoline is about to go
to five dollars a gallon. The country

639
00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:00.239
is about thirty two trillion dollars in
debt. Unbelievable. The southern border,

640
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:05.920
despite non coverage by the mainstream media, continues to be wide open. Blue

641
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.400
cities in blue states. Some of
the great so called cities in this country

642
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:15.360
are obliterated by the policies of the
Democrat Party. San Francisco, you can't

643
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:20.679
walk around Los Angeles. How about
Portland? How about Seattle? How about

644
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:24.440
downtown Chicago? How about New York
City or Boston or Atlanta or Washington,

645
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.599
DC? Or crime is up forty
percent and the kids in the public schools

646
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:32.480
are not being educated. How about
the fact that Iran may be about to

647
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.800
attack Israel, and the fact that
North Korea, because who's in the White

648
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:42.079
House, may attack South Korea,
and that China may go after Taiwan because

649
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.760
who's in the White House. A
foolish, feckless man, A foolish,

650
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.800
feckless man is in the White House, who seeming least, taken bribes from

651
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:54.199
all over the world to affect American
policy. That the mainstream media ignores completely

652
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:59.400
the five million dollars to Joe and
the five million dollars to Hunter and the

653
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:05.639
FBI. He has had the roadmap
of the Biden crimes since twenty nineteen,

654
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:10.280
and its simply ignored it four years
down the road, and whatever one of

655
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:15.119
the great US senators to Senator crews
and others gets into it, for Ray

656
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:20.360
simply announces it's under investigation. I
can't talk about it. It's been four

657
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:25.000
years. Donald Trump. I have
sympathy and empathy for him for many reasons.

658
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:30.400
One damn it. His four years
worked. He kept promises, made

659
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.760
promises, kept the appointment of conservative
federal judges. The southern border was locked

660
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:40.719
down, Inflation was almost non existent, America was energy independent. It was

661
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:45.519
a good time for those four years. Didn't start any wars, and the

662
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:49.960
despots around the planet were afraid to
do anything because they didn't trust Donald Trump

663
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:55.159
to act like Joe Biden or Barack
Husaint Obama, who said repeatedly that America

664
00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.199
is not exceptional. So those four
years had to be ignored. But we

665
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:06.719
now live in a country where Joe
Biden, beginning as vice president on paper,

666
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.760
except that millions of dollars in bribes
from Ukraine, China, Russia,

667
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:21.000
etc. And basically the issue is
not reported because of papers in a bathroom

668
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:28.079
and Mara Lago protected by security detail
and by the Secret Service that Donald Trump

669
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:35.199
has said he declassified them all.
So I don't know. Those papers are

670
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:39.719
not important to your life, But
the cost of groceries is, the cost

671
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:45.079
of energy products is important to your
life. The Southern border, the collapse

672
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:51.440
of public education, the fact that
federal bureaucrats about eighty percent of them,

673
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:54.639
will not report to work in the
office. That's a big deal. They

674
00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:00.519
will not work. The fact way
of a president who has compromise and who

675
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:07.719
was mentally mentally light shall we say, who mentally is absent from the job,

676
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:13.920
and media knows it and they won't
adequately report on it because they want

677
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.679
to make sure he gets re elected
or Kamala Harris gets elected or selected as

678
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:22.440
the president. You know, I
read the twenty second Amendment. There's nothing

679
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:30.440
wrong with the fact that Barack Obama
could be elected vice president under Joe Biden

680
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:36.400
in twenty twenty four. Twenty second
Amendment deals with a person being elected to

681
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:43.119
the presidency twice, so there's no
question that this is the third Obama term.

682
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:51.360
And if fantasy exists and Biden selects
Barack Obama as his vice president and

683
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:58.119
then resigns during his term, and
Obama becomes the president, that doesn't violate

684
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:04.079
the twenty second Amendment because he wouldn't
have been elected twice. It's unbelievable what's

685
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.599
happening in this country. But we
are consumed with pieces of paper in a

686
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:14.719
bathroom in Marlago, protected by security
detail and by the Secret Service with locks.

687
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:19.239
Were obsessed with that, trying to
get him by any means necessary.

688
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.719
The poor guy, according to the
Wall Street Journal, has more than five

689
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:29.239
hundred separate lawsuits penning against him and
his company's five hundred lawsuits and now up

690
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:35.320
to almost one hundred counts, one
hundred felonies between New York and the Southern

691
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:42.119
District of Florida, a hundred counts
indictments, along with hundreds of lawsuits and

692
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.599
more to come. How does the
guy get up in the morning. I

693
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:51.800
don't know. This guy Trump is
unbelievable. And all I'm saying is treat

694
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:55.559
him the way Hillary Clinton was treated. Treat him the way Bill Clinton was

695
00:58:55.599 --> 00:59:04.000
treated. Treat him the way Hillary
Clinton was treated and in which case he's

696
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.480
the next president. Let's continue with
more. Coming up next is James Spogan,

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00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:12.239
em in a criminal offense attorney later
on his judge and Rule, the

698
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:16.880
par author of the book The People's
Justice, The Great Judge Clarence Thomas,

699
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.400
where he came from, and why
he's one of the great Justices. News

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00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:32.639
Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred
WL Cincinnati. The Talk Around DC continues

701
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:39.920
to surround the former president's classified documents
and the upcoming federal indictment with the eleven

702
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:45.440
thirty report, I'm Sean McCormick breaking
now former President Donald Trump rallying against mince

703
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:52.440
over mishandling the classified documents and obstructing
justice by allegedly hiding and not returning them.

704
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:57.880
Trump at times claims he had already
declassified those documents and that he had

705
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:02.119
the power to do so just by
thinking about it. ABC's political director Rick

706
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:07.800
Klein has more on that. One
is he's not president anymore, so if

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01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.239
he declassified them after he was president, that it doesn't have any force of

708
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:15.760
law. The second is that there's
no record that he actually moved to declassify

709
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.559
any of the records. That at
least were named in the indictment. In

710
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.679
fact, there's a big piece of
evidence of recording where he talks with someone

711
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:27.679
and says explicitly that this is something
that's so highly classified he publish shouldn't even

712
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.280
be showing it. That he could
have declassified it when he was president,

713
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:35.320
but of course he can't anymore.
Never let us weather from the forecasters at

714
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:38.719
nine News scottis showers coming to an
end through the early overnight hours. His

715
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.800
temperatures depp down of fifty eight will
be partly and mostly cloudy with a wind

716
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.800
out of the north end west at
fifteen miles per hour throughout the day.

717
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.719
On Monday, passing clouds, temperatures
right towards seventy one with a northwest win

718
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:53.519
at ten to fifteen. Could have
a few isolated showers into the afternoon evening

719
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:57.639
in a better chance at rain coming
in on Tuesday with a hive seventy six.

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01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.599
Wednesday rain chances as well at seventy
seven from a severe weather station,

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01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.840
I'm nine first wanting media roles just
Brandon Spinner News Radio seven hundred WLW BRDAR

722
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:13.079
shows most of the rain is moving
out of the Tri State area. Another

723
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:17.719
area Kroger store the scene of a
bomb threat evacuation. A sixth bomb threat

724
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:22.880
was called into a Kroger store,
this one on Sunday morning in North College

725
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.880
Hill. After evacuation and investigation,
police found nothing. It's back open now.

726
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.960
This after Saturday when five stores,
one in Oakley and four in northern

727
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:36.119
Kentucky had the same thing happened.
Kroger says they're aware and working with the

728
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.280
FBI and local law enforcement to find
the Hoaxer officials believe it's a nationwide hoax.

729
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.880
I'm Sandy Collins, This radio seven
hundred WLW OUR. Next update is

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01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:52.159
at twelve o'clock. I'm Sean McCormick, News Radio seven hundred WLW HI.

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01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.639
I'm Joel Osteen. I've learned that
your life follows your thoughts. You can't

732
01:01:55.719 --> 01:02:00.840
think negative and live positive. If
you get your mind going in the right

733
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:04.559
direction, if your life will go
in the right direction. American of course,

734
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.559
we've been discussing this all night,
which is what's going to happen with

735
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:13.239
the indictment now of President Donald J. Trump. This is a long process.

736
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:15.880
It began in New York a few
months ago. It was a book

737
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.960
to Reign, etc. On charges
that appear to be frivolous at best.

738
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:25.199
These are more serious charges that carry
essentially about twenty years in prison, thirty

739
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:30.880
seven felonies. X Smith, whose
special counsel. He's one of the Joe

740
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:36.920
Biden's lap shall I say, pit
bulls that go crazy on certain conservative Republicans.

741
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:39.559
And I want to get the perspective
of an active criminal defense attorney,

742
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:44.880
James Bogan about some of the possible
defenses and his thoughts on the indictment.

743
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:47.599
James Bogan, welcome again into Bill
Cunningham show. And first of all,

744
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:52.760
let's go to the prosecutor himself,
Jack Smith. And you've done some researcher

745
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.360
course relative the lowest learner, etc. So before we get the essence of

746
01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:00.760
the chargers, tell us about the
prosecutor, Jack Smith. Well, look

747
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:05.280
at his whole work history. He's
worked for Democrats. He worked for a

748
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.679
Manhattan DA's office. We all know
about them. And when he worked at

749
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:14.320
the Department's Justice, he was working
under Democrats. Eric Holder was his boss.

750
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.880
Yeah, he did prosecute John Edwards, but that was in two eleven

751
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:22.719
when John Edwards was on the outs
with the Democratic Party. He wasn't there,

752
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:25.920
Darling like he was in two thousand
and four. So the fact that

753
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.000
he prosecuted John Edwards, that's meaningless
to me. But the big thing you

754
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:35.320
got to look at. You have
his supporters saying, oh, he's impartial,

755
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.599
blah blah blah. Look at his
involvement with the Lowest Learner IRS scandal.

756
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:47.440
He took. He initiated efforts to
get the Justice Department involved in this

757
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:52.280
whole thing. When he saw what
Lowes Learner was doing, he initiated contact

758
01:03:52.840 --> 01:04:00.920
with her, and he was actually
kept wanting to push about this even after

759
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:05.280
other higher ups were expressing doubts about
it. And he was only aiming at

760
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:13.679
conservative nonprofits during this whole debacle,
never a mention of looking at any liberal,

761
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.159
any Democrat nonprofits. So going back
to twenty fourteen, there was an

762
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:23.559
effort to shall we say, in
the election of twenty twelve, to stop

763
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:30.079
the Conservatives from getting tax exempt status, and so Lowis Learner the IRS was

764
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.360
kind of told directly or indirectly to
deny tax exempt status. So in twenty

765
01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:38.760
twelve, when Obama ran against the
mit Romney, there'd be less money on

766
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:43.159
the conservative side. So by twenty
fourteen, thinks him metastasized, and that

767
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:47.440
Jack Smith was the one who wanted
to go after conservative groups, humanitarian groups,

768
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:53.960
religious groups, and leave the liberals
alone because of because of the light

769
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.679
being a great disinfectant. That kind
of quieted down a little bit. But

770
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:02.360
Lowis Learner eventually simply took full retirement, was paid with her retirement benefits,

771
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:06.199
and now she went, let's deal
with the charges themselves. There's thirty seven

772
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:11.280
charges. I know the Presidential Records
Act is going to come into play to

773
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.119
a large extent as their criminal offense. Attorney One, are one or two

774
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.400
issues that rise in your mind that
might cause Donald Trump some difficulty, and

775
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:24.639
then I'll ask you about the indictment
itself in Toto. Well, the difficulty

776
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:29.039
here's he's going to have to show
that he de classified these documents and he

777
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:31.119
put his foot in his mouth in
the faulty cent. Oh, I did

778
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:34.199
it with a thought. You can't
do it with a thought you have.

779
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:43.280
There's a actually quite painstaking process where
blacked out information that supposed to the secret

780
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:48.079
gets blacked out. The declassification is
recorded, and any agencies that are affected

781
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:54.679
have to be notified, and the
individual documents have to be remarked a show

782
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:58.440
that they're no longer classified. At
this point, we don't know a thing

783
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.440
about what's going on with that whole
situation, and Trump's telling the press I

784
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:08.239
did it with a thought. That
doesn't help well. The other issue is,

785
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:14.280
according to Alan Dershowitz, who's been
very agreeable with the Donald until recently,

786
01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:17.239
the one damning piece of evidence,
Alan Dershowitz says, is the tape

787
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:23.719
recording of a Trump biographer and the
Trumpster on tape is talking about the fact

788
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:29.800
that here's something that is classified that
I can't now to classify because I'm not

789
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:33.239
the president anymore. I guess it
involved some possible attack on Iran and what

790
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:36.719
was going to happen. So there's
one damning piece of evidence, and that

791
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:43.000
I also brought up the fact earlier
about the crime. A lot of the

792
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:48.199
crimes began allegedly after the investigation started, and so instead of the Donald turning

793
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:53.360
everything back because he didn't think he
had to, there was subpoenas being issued,

794
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.320
there were raids at Mara Lago,
there were Secret Service agents that testified,

795
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:00.599
and in the indictment talks about attorney
on attorney two, an attorney three,

796
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:08.440
so at some point the federal court
required Trump's own attorneys to testify against

797
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:13.039
him because there was an exception about
lawyer client privilege. Explain that to the

798
01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:17.719
American people, there's an exception in
the lawyer client privilege when it's about hiding

799
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:24.880
evidence of criminal activity. Hiding evidence, for example, we've talked about this

800
01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:30.039
before. A lawyer cannot help a
client hide evidence. So let's say you

801
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:35.000
have maybe a more simple, say
a drug case, and if a client

802
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:40.320
who's a drug dealer says to you, James Bogan, I like to hide

803
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:43.159
some of this heroine. And you
would say, I'll tell you what,

804
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:45.880
why don't you rent a locker somewhere
and I'll help you rent the locker in

805
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:49.559
my name. We can hide the
evidence there. That's a problem. Explain

806
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:57.840
that lawyer would get disbarred because you
can't participate in the crime. It's a

807
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:02.599
crime being committed by your client and
providing constitutional protection. You're involving yourself.

808
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:06.920
And so the argument of Jack Smith
was that these lawyers had given to the

809
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:13.639
federal court affidavits that indicated that all
the classified materials had been turned over,

810
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:18.520
and when the Secret Service agents testified
against Donald Trump that there was more classified

811
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.199
documents. There was a suspicion by
the federal judge in Miami that the lawyers

812
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:29.000
may have been participating in hiding evidence, and so he the lawyers were given

813
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:30.960
shall we say, immunity in a
sense, as long as they told the

814
01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:34.880
truth, and they were required to
give testimony against their own client. Now

815
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:42.880
that could be damaging for Donald Trump
too, correct, absolutely, because I

816
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.520
don't know what they testified too,
but the indictment seems to indicate they provided

817
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:54.319
inculpatory evidence against Donald Trump. Discuss
the issue of how unusual it is for

818
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:59.760
a presidential candidate and former president to
be indicted when you have other examples such

819
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:03.000
as Hillary Clinton, such as Joe
Biden, such as Mike Penn's, such

820
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:09.960
as Bill Clinton. Please explain,
Well, this definitely goes into the selective

821
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:14.319
prosecution argument, which you know that
defense is going to be raising that issue

822
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.880
long before it even goes to trial, because before a case goes to trial,

823
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:23.479
you do all the pre trial motions, say motion to suppress, to

824
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:27.279
try to get Evans thrown out.
In this case here, you can bet

825
01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:32.800
Trump's lawyers are going to be arguing
selective prosecution. Hillary Clinton, she had

826
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:40.760
classified information on personal servers, and
it was reported that for an adversaries got

827
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:44.359
ahold of some of it. And
there's the lease in a thirty three thousand

828
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:50.640
emails phones being destroyed with hammers,
and then Biden had documents in four locations.

829
01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:58.680
And just because Biden cooperated, so
to speak, that doesn't take away

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01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:01.439
from the fact that it happened.
And how many times, Bill have we

831
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:06.960
had cases where a client pays restitution, but they still need to plead a

832
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:13.840
something because they did it, and
restitution giving the property back doesn't change the

833
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:17.159
fact that it happened. It's kind
of like, let's say a bank has

834
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:25.079
robbed and Hillary Clinton commit a crimes
bleach bid also destroying simcards under a subpoena

835
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:30.960
thirty some thousand emails, and let's
say use the bank robbery analogy. If

836
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.359
someone robs a bank and takes the
money home, if you give the money

837
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:36.720
back to the bank, the crime
was still committed. So even though Hillary

838
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:43.680
Clinton cooperated in a sense, the
crime she committed was destroying thirty thousand emails

839
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:47.920
under a subpoena which was highly classified
information. And James Comey gave her a

840
01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:54.680
Texas El Paso in July of twenty
sixteen that she says cost me the presidency,

841
01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:58.279
that it raised the issue, and
so that's what started the Russian collusion

842
01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:01.880
delusion. That's a different matter.
But how successful is it when you talk

843
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:06.560
about selective prosecution? I know my
mother used to say to me, the

844
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fact five other people do something wrong, Billy, doesn't mean you can do

845
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:15.640
something wrong. So how strongly is
that an argument in court when it comes

846
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.520
to other people weren't prosecuted, why
am I prosecuted? Does that work?

847
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:26.199
It depends on the situation. Bill. You basically have to show a systematic

848
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.239
policy of it. And just the
fact that these other file figures, Bill

849
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:36.239
Clinton, I mean Hillary Clinton and
Joe Biden, they haven't been prosecuted.

850
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:40.920
No one's even come close to prosecuting
them, when the evidence is right there

851
01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:45.960
on a silver platter. Why is
that? How come Bill Clinton could lie

852
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:50.920
under oath to federal judges, and
Bill Clinton could suborne perjury encouraging other people

853
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:56.319
in the executive branch of government to
lie, and Bill Clinton used the assets

854
01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:00.079
of the Department of Defense to hide
his girlfriends and no show up big jobs.

855
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:04.600
All that was simply ignored, and
I think he lost his ability to

856
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:09.239
practice law in Arkansas, which nobody
was going to hire him as an attorney

857
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.800
anyway. So in the case of
Bill Clinton, in office as president,

858
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.920
not after he left office. In
office as president, he committed numerous felonies,

859
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:24.720
why wasn't he prosecuted? Politics?
Look who's in charge of the Justice

860
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:29.159
Department. And one thing too,
with Jack Smith, I don't think he

861
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.960
was entirely truthful of Congress either.
When he talked to them about this whole

862
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:35.640
i RS scandal, he just said, Oh, I had concerned that there

863
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:41.239
wasn't an appropriate enforcement and wanted to
discuss it. Yeah, just discuss it.

864
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:45.479
Not And when I think it's blatantly
obvious that he was pushing for an

865
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:54.680
investigation in prosecution, he wonted.
Jack Smith wanted to prosecute Republicans in twenty

866
01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:59.039
fourteen, fifteen, twenty sixteen.
He was turned down in that, but

867
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:02.880
he showed his true blue colors and
his wife also was highly political. So

868
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:06.359
they picked someone and then they pretend
as if he's on his own, but

869
01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:12.239
in reality, the president appoints the
Attorney General, Mary Garland, who's going

870
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.520
to act to grind against the Republicans
because in his mind, he should be

871
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.800
on the US Supreme Court, and
then he also goes and appoints Jack Smith,

872
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:24.520
knowing his history, and that Jack
Smith could have issued simply a written

873
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:29.359
report under the Presidential Records Act.
He didn't have to indict anybody. He

874
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:31.159
could have said, this is what
we have found, put it out there

875
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:34.880
in the public domain, and then
have a legitimate election in November of next

876
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:39.800
year to decide who the president is
and who isn't who's going to get elected.

877
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:44.920
But he has his thumb on the
scale indicting the leading candidate for the

878
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.399
presidency of the opposition party and a
former president, which had never happened before.

879
01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:57.560
Let's talk for a moment about about
President Joe Biden having hundreds of boxes

880
01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:03.239
of classified documents and different locations,
including in his own garage where he Parks's

881
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:12.760
corvette completely unguarded. Where's the indictments
of that. That's something that shows selective

882
01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:20.159
prosecution evidence right there on a silver
platter, not crickets, nothing. And

883
01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:26.760
I'm waiting is that an effective argument
in federal court? Maybe on pre trial

884
01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:30.560
motions, but sometimes it's been tried
in other cases, such as I'm being

885
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:35.079
prosecuted because I'm black, I'm prosecuted
because I'm a Republican, I'm prosecuted and

886
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:39.239
other people are not. A lot
of times. On January sixth, the

887
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:44.840
defendants have tried that selective prosecution argument, claiming that those who rioted with the

888
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:48.479
George Floyd riots in in twenty twenty, we're not prosecuted. But the judges

889
01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:54.920
have thrown that out. Selective prosecution. Isn't that a tough hurdle to overcome?

890
01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:59.039
That is a tough hurdle to overcome, and what you need to do

891
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:04.039
for the defend arguing this, you
need to be able to show that other,

892
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:11.039
like other people, similarly situated people
are not being prosecuted. Now in

893
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:16.680
this case, here you're dealing with
a pretty small sample of similarly situated people.

894
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:21.600
It's not like you're dealing with a
big sample of rioters or anything like

895
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:28.960
that. Here you're dealing with a
very small sample of president potential candidates.

896
01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:31.279
In fact, many have said treated
him like any other citizen. But the

897
01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:38.159
fact the matter is he was chief
of State and also chief of government.

898
01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:43.119
He was like the king and the
CEO. A president holds both titles in

899
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:46.840
his arm. Chief of State also
chief of government. He's in charge and

900
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:50.199
you got to treat him the way
Hillary Clinton was treated, the way Bill

901
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:56.319
Clinton was treated, the way Joe
Biden was treated. And by those standards,

902
01:15:56.439 --> 01:16:01.680
only Republicans get prosecuted and Democrats do
not for worst behavior. Imagine if

903
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:08.079
these hundreds of boxes in mar Lago
had been set on fire or destroyed by

904
01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:15.119
Donald Trump, as Hillary Clinton destroyed
all those thirty thousand emails involving national national

905
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:20.319
secrets, and that was given a
Texas al Paso. But in the Trumpster's

906
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:24.279
case, he's being prosecutor. Well, James Bogan, I'll tell you what

907
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:27.680
any idea how long this case is
going to take? Here we are the

908
01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.159
first half of June, and they
want a speedy trial. In the federal

909
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:34.439
system, you can have a speedy
trial, says the trial must begin within

910
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:40.439
seventy days. Do you see that
happening in this case. I don't see

911
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:45.680
that because the sheer volume of paperwork
and bill one more thing that differentiates Trump

912
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:49.640
from these others. Not only is
he a Republican running for office, he's

913
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:55.840
not a political insider. The political
establishment. People on both sides of the

914
01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:59.319
aisle see him as a threat.
Mitch McConnell sees him as a threat.

915
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:03.319
I think we all know that.
And that's something here that you don't have

916
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:10.880
with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden or
anybody else who's a political insider. Well,

917
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:15.239
Mitt Romney's an insider. John McCain
was an insider. A Bush forty

918
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:18.920
one was an insider. Bush forty
three was an insider. Dick Cheney and

919
01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:24.359
Liz Cheney, both of them are
clowns, but they're both insiders, even

920
01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:28.359
though the Republicans they're insiders. But
in this case with Donald Trump, is

921
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:30.880
none of that. He's an outsider, and it's going to help him in

922
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:34.199
the Republican primary. I'm not sure
he's going to help him in the general

923
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:38.720
election. I can only imagine that
the trial takes place in February, March

924
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:43.000
or April of next year. If
he's found not guilty, If the Jerry

925
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.840
finds him not guilty in all thirty
seven counts, they might as will just

926
01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:51.199
give him the oath of office.
He's going to win the presidency. I

927
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:55.920
can agree with that, all right. James Bogan will awigh upon you as

928
01:17:55.960 --> 01:18:00.239
the months go by to see the
approaches taken by the Trump defense team.

929
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.640
Once again, James Bogan, thank
you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,

930
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.279
my friend will do it again.
Thank you very much, Thank you

931
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:10.039
always a privilege Bill, Thank you, James Bogan. All right, let's

932
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:14.239
continue with more. The line becomes
available eight six six sixty four seven,

933
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:20.199
seven three three seven. Remember Carlos
Danger, the social media name of Anthony

934
01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:27.560
Weiner. Hillary Clinton was so bad
with classified documents, some of the most

935
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:32.439
highest category sci top secret, that
she permitted directly or indirectly those documents to

936
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:36.640
get into the hands of Uma Aberdeen
or top assistant. And of course her

937
01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:43.199
husband was Carlos Danger aka Anthony Weiner. So God only knows where those documents

938
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:46.840
went. But no prosecution took place, did it. Let's continue with more.

939
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:51.119
Bill cunning in the Great American with
you every Sunday night. In this

940
01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:57.960
one, my Billy Cunningham, Let's
continue. I had a fall about an

941
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:02.680
hour and a half ago about whether
or not the President can simply mentally say

942
01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:09.840
in his own mind that all the
materials at Marlago have been declassified. And

943
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:14.319
the point is that needs to be
litigated. The US Supreme Court decision of

944
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:19.600
a nineteen nineteen eighty eight, said
Justice Harry Blackman wrote in the opinion said,

945
01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:27.760
the president's ability to classify and or
declassifying control access the national security information

946
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:32.680
flows from the Constitution. He alone
decides, no one else. So what

947
01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:39.560
is the manifestation of that fact?
The President is now saying repeatedly that he

948
01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:44.479
declassified the information, there can't be
obstruction of a crime. And materials he

949
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:48.039
may have shown others were all declassified
at the time. So I'm waiting to

950
01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:51.880
see what that is. I don't
know, must continued. Of course,

951
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:57.279
Justice Clarence Thomas has gone through a
living hell for quite a period of time,

952
01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:01.199
and Judge Mule, the par of
the Sixth Circuit US Court of Appeals,

953
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.800
has written a brand new book out
this week, The People's Justice,

954
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:10.840
referring to Clarence Thomas. I'm going
to talk with him about Clarence Thomas and

955
01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:15.840
more. Phil Cunningham, the Great
American. I try to be a great

956
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American as great American as Clarence Thomas. Live with you every Sunday night.

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Of course, there's no justice on

964
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:28.079
the Supreme Court who has received more
condemnation from the critics and the sayers and

965
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:31.359
the soothsayers. And perhaps the greatest
justice on the US Supreme Court is Clarence

966
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:34.199
Thomas. I've had the honor a
couple of times having him on the air

967
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:38.880
with me many years ago, and
I think largely now he might be hunkering

968
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:43.159
down a bit because of what's happening
in the mainstream media. And there should

969
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:47.000
be libraries named after him, schools
named after him. Bridge is named after

970
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:51.039
him, and it's not going to
happen because of the way the mainstream media

971
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:55.600
has treated him. I call myself
the voice of the common man. To

972
01:21:55.840 --> 01:22:00.159
large extent, Justice Clarence Thomas is
the people's justice. And to confirm that

973
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.319
a great judge in his own right, judge a mule, the par has

974
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:10.600
written a book, The People's Justice, Clarence Thomas and the Constitutional Stories that

975
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:14.600
to find him and Judge the par
welcome, I think for the first time

976
01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:17.039
to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
first of all, Judge, I would

977
01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:23.520
note that you've served many years as
a judge, for about about fourteen or

978
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:27.399
fifteen years District Court judge. You're
on the sixth Circuit US Court of Appeals.

979
01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.319
Before that, you were a US
Attorney. You've been a member of

980
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:33.399
the Federalist Society. You were one
of the six judges interviewed by Donald Trump

981
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:41.159
in twenty seventeen to take the seat
you meet eventually going to Brett Kevanall and

982
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:44.840
you're one of the brilliant judges in
America on the Circuit Court of Appeals.

983
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:48.680
But to get this thing started,
why did you pick Clarence Thomas as a

984
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:53.560
person to write this book? In
my left hand, which is fabulous.

985
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:56.760
I read it the last two or
three days over the weekend. Can you

986
01:22:56.920 --> 01:23:00.439
tell me why you picked him as
subject matter? Yeah, that's a great

987
01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:03.760
question, Bill, Thank you very
much for having me on. And what

988
01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:08.039
an introduction. I'm going to have
to have my wife and kids looking because

989
01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:13.800
they won't believe it. But I
really appreciate the introduction. So the reason

990
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:17.039
I picked Clarence Thomas, let me
take a step back. I'm the child

991
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:20.520
of immigrants. My dad came over
here with five bucks in a one way

992
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:26.920
ticket and had to figure out how
to make a living for himself, go

993
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:32.840
to school, and eventually raise a
family. And whenever I complained, he

994
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:38.439
said the same thing to me,
this is the greatest country in the world.

995
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:42.680
If you can't accomplish it here,
there's no way you can accomplish it.

996
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:49.000
So he would not accept any sort
of whining or failure. Justice Thomas's

997
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:57.680
grandfather was very similar in that he
would say whenever Justice Thomas complained, then

998
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:01.680
a young Clarence Thomas, his grandfather
who raised him, said, old man

999
01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:06.319
can't is dead. You know how
I know, I helped bury him.

1000
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And it's that type of mentality that
we both grew up in. And what

1001
01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:16.560
I wanted to know and what I
started to study is I was an originalist.

1002
01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:23.159
I became an originalist because originalism is
the only way to honor the will

1003
01:24:23.439 --> 01:24:27.960
of the people. And Justice Thomas
now that Justice s Glia's sadly path is

1004
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:33.000
perhaps the ultimate originalist, and so
what I wanted to know is what's behind

1005
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:38.199
it, what's behind originalism? And
I didn't want to tell people that.

1006
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:43.119
What I wanted to do is tell
people the stories of the cases and let

1007
01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:49.680
people decide for themselves. It's originalism
and Justice Thomas's originalism in particular, is

1008
01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:54.600
better or worse for the country.
And as the publisher says in the jacket,

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even the critics may be surprised by
their answer. What surprised me so

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01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.880
much, as you pointed out in
the intro, is that we often hear

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the critics, but they rarely let
you read Justice Thomas's words. In other

1012
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:14.199
words, when you hear the criticism, you don't see his words. They

1013
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:17.800
paraphrase, they take out of context. What I wanted to do is tell

1014
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:23.199
the reader. I assumed all of
my readers would be intelligent people. I

1015
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:26.960
wanted to give them the stories and
let them decide for themselves. So I

1016
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:31.880
picked twelve cases from the Supreme Court. I interviewed the participants in the cases.

1017
01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:36.079
I interviewed the lawyers, I interviewed
the plainists. And they're the real

1018
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:41.239
heroes. Justice Thomas is the protagonist
of originalism. As you see, we

1019
01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:47.159
as judges are merely trying to discern
the meaning of the people that passed the

1020
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:53.159
law and how it impacts people.
And it shouldn't surprise people that when we

1021
01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:57.800
do that, we honor the American
people's will, and by doing so,

1022
01:25:58.119 --> 01:26:02.000
we often find it protects the little
guy from the government. After all,

1023
01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:10.039
the Constitution's a contract with the government
signed the American people gave up certain things

1024
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:15.600
in exchange for a limited federal government. Yeah. And I had a dinner

1025
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:19.199
with maybe one of the mentors of
Clarence Thomas, up being Antolen Scalia and

1026
01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:23.800
a little Italian restaurant in Toledo,
Ohio, where you spent time as a

1027
01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:26.760
kid, and I went to law
school in Toledo, and we have a

1028
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.239
great radio station and Toledo that listens
to me every day. And I'm having

1029
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:33.239
a dinner with him. There were
four or five of us there at a

1030
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:39.960
table, and after a dessert,
he would reminisce about cases. He spoke

1031
01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:43.720
glowingly of Clarence Thomas, and he
said, many times, it comes down

1032
01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:47.159
to two words. And I said
two words. He said, no matter

1033
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:51.000
what the issue might be, if
it's constitutional, it's two words. And

1034
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:56.800
everyone's leaning forward to Scalia and he
looked with those eyes at his and said,

1035
01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:01.279
who decides? And he said,
Justice, what do you mean?

1036
01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:08.239
Who decides? He said, do
we decide nine old men and women in

1037
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:12.359
Washington, DC? Or do the
people decide under the ninth and tenth Amendment?

1038
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.680
He said, too many times activist
judges say I'll decide and take away

1039
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:20.039
the constitution, take away the constitutional
Republic, take away the Congress. And

1040
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:25.800
so when you say who decides,
isn't that the heart and soul of federalism.

1041
01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:30.560
Yes, that's exactly the heart and
soul. And what Justice Thomas or

1042
01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:34.840
Justice Schalia have this great say?
He said, I'd rather have nine people,

1043
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:41.920
randomly chosen out of the phone book
decide the ultimate issues of today than

1044
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:45.319
the nine judges in this building,
meaning the nine justices of the Supreme Court.

1045
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:50.039
And his point was he trusts the
American people. Originalism and textualism is

1046
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:55.039
about trusting the American people. You
see that in this book. But what

1047
01:27:55.199 --> 01:28:00.760
else you see in the People's Justice
and Justice Thomas is the People's justice is

1048
01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:03.560
that he truly is. And you'll
get to go through the stories. One

1049
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:08.840
of the stories I'm sure you saw
is about Warwick done, Yes, war

1050
01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:13.800
Done, Who I'm sure your listeners
know, was a superstar football player in

1051
01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:17.399
the NFL, one of very few
running backs with over ten thousand yards.

1052
01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:21.640
He was five eight with a heart
of gold. What people don't know is

1053
01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:27.279
his story at eighteen years old is
the oldest of six children, his mom

1054
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:31.119
was brutally murdered. She was a
police officer, just trying to make money

1055
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:36.199
to raise a family and get them
a house and a single mother and she

1056
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:42.680
was brutally murdered. And chapter,
the chapter called about Brumfield, called the

1057
01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:49.399
Picture, traces the stories of the
killer constantly challenging his conviction, and Warwick

1058
01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:56.319
Done picking up the pieces. And
it culminates where they meet in prison,

1059
01:28:56.439 --> 01:29:00.720
where Warreth Done goes to see his
mom's killing. Yes, and it's just

1060
01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:08.319
it's it's heart wrenching. And you
and I know Justice Thomas cares passionately about

1061
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:13.399
people. In fact, no greater
authority than his colleague Justice. So to

1062
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:17.560
my horse that Justice Thomas is the
one justice in the building that literally knows

1063
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:21.800
every employee's name, every one of
them. She said. He's a man

1064
01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:27.199
who cares deeply about the court as
an institution, about the people who worked

1065
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:31.520
there, about the people. What
role, what role judged the part?

1066
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:38.399
Do you believe that the race of
Clarence Thomas has and the vicious criticisms and

1067
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:43.159
the fact that mainstream media would never
do a positive piece about Clarence Thomas or

1068
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:46.439
his wife Jenny, But do you
think race plays a large factor? And

1069
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:55.319
the bovine schatology thrown at Justice Thomas. You know, I don't know what

1070
01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:58.800
goes into his critics mind, but
you're you're putting your finger on something because

1071
01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:04.760
they've called him the cruelest justice,
stupid and uncle Tom and a traitor to

1072
01:30:04.920 --> 01:30:08.960
his race. And if you don't
believe me in the book, I have

1073
01:30:09.119 --> 01:30:12.960
an end note including all the criticisms, because when you read them, your

1074
01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:19.359
skin will cross. You won't believe
they're saying this about him. One thing,

1075
01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:24.960
then you read the book, speak
to me. He will never get

1076
01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.479
a fair shake in the mainstream meat
because it doesn't fit. And if there's

1077
01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:32.680
more and more black conservatives out there
who are originalist and think through difficulties from

1078
01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:38.000
through the prism of a Thomas or
Scalia, if more and more judges and

1079
01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:41.560
Americans do that, then liberalism is
in more trouble than it should be.

1080
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:47.039
I would ask you as Justice Thomas's
identity as a black conservative made a difference

1081
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:51.079
in your life because you're one,
I think, the second Indian American to

1082
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:55.239
be on the United States Court of
Appeals. I look at the way some

1083
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:59.560
Court of Appeals justices have been traded
at Stanford Law, which is disgusting.

1084
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:03.399
But how has his identity affected you, judge? You know, it's given

1085
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:08.039
me. It's empowered me to have
the courage to always do the right thing,

1086
01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:14.560
and that's an important trait. I
think it's a little easier. I

1087
01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:17.039
mean, people give us a lot
of credit when we have courage. It's

1088
01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:20.640
a little easier for us to have
courage than the lid against When you read

1089
01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:26.000
this book and you read about Otis
McDonald, who brought a case because he

1090
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:31.720
needed a gun to protect himself,
a black American in inner city Chicago asking

1091
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:36.560
a veteran asking to have a gun
and getting you know, most people that

1092
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:43.720
stand up for rights or heroes,
he was ridiculed, talk about courage.

1093
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:47.760
So it's a little easier for us
to have courage when there's litigants like that.

1094
01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:51.760
And that's one thing Justice Thomas realized. And the only thing critics don't

1095
01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:57.479
tell you is he has, as
you just said, a black conservative voice,

1096
01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:02.159
and it rings through in this book. In The People's Justice, it

1097
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:08.119
talks about his black conservative voice,
and I think people will be shocked.

1098
01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:11.880
And it's his words, not mine, that are in the book. I

1099
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:17.159
quote them, and his words so
strong. When he talks about historically black

1100
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:21.359
colleges and I'm quoting him, he
says, it never ceases to amaze me

1101
01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:28.520
that the courts are so willing to
assume anything that is predominantly black must be

1102
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:32.680
inferior. Right, I mean you
think about that. And here they're calling

1103
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:36.920
him an Uncle Tom, and he's
saying, stop assuming we're stupid because we're

1104
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:42.079
black. It stout, assuming we
need anyone else. We can accomplish all

1105
01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.239
we want to accomplish in the greatest
country in the world. And he did

1106
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:47.520
it. But you talk about a
one way ticket, a one way ticket

1107
01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:53.119
for your dad from India was a
motivating factor. There's no way back.

1108
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:57.439
Can you tell the American people give
us a couple of minutes on the upbringing

1109
01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:02.680
of Clarence Thomas and why he's not
elitist. Yeah, I mean he grew

1110
01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:06.439
up I talked about it. He
grew up on a dirt floor in a

1111
01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:13.520
one room shack. His mom was
making ten dollars every two weeks. She

1112
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:19.279
couldn't raise him and his brother,
so she dropped him off lovingly with their

1113
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:26.319
grandfather, who raised him with a
ruler and sent them spent all his money,

1114
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:29.880
saved all his money to send them
to Catholic schools because he knew,

1115
01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:39.479
as Frederick Douglas said, that education
means emancipation, and so he understood that,

1116
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:46.199
and he Justice Thomas Sundays didn't get
three meals, and yet his grandfather

1117
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:51.039
did everything in its power to raise
him, send him to Catholic schools and

1118
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:58.079
give him a chance to succeed,
just like my dad made a conscious decision

1119
01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:01.560
when he came here, and least
to his kids here. My parents said,

1120
01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:04.680
we are going to teach you English
first, even though it's not our

1121
01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:10.159
first language, because we want you
to be on equal footing and be able

1122
01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:14.800
to succeed in this the greatest country
in the world. And think about it.

1123
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:19.279
I've met with multiple presidents. I've
been appointed three times to the US

1124
01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:23.960
Attorney, to the District Court,
and to the Circuit Court. As a

1125
01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:29.000
child of immigrants, my parents went
through a naturalization. What other country in

1126
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:31.600
the world could that be accomplishing?
What other country could a kid from a

1127
01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:38.520
dirt poor growing up in a shack
in Georgia rise all the way to the

1128
01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:43.720
Supreme Court of the United States.
He's attacked constantly, yet anyone that knows

1129
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:48.319
him knows he has this loving and
warm personality. Justice Friar Justice, So

1130
01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:54.079
to my art. They talk about
repeatedly what a kind and gentle man he

1131
01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:57.239
is. And you know, one
of the sickest things, Judge the par

1132
01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:01.720
is the fact that Clarence Thomas is
often a betraying his race. That is,

1133
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:04.680
if you're black, you have to
act, pretend to be in a

1134
01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:09.640
certain way, have political viewpoints of
a certain type, rule in a certain

1135
01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:15.039
way, because obviously, according to
the liberals and those angry at Justice Thomas,

1136
01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:18.079
being black means you must have a
leg up constantly. And he would

1137
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:25.600
find that awfully objectionable, that he's
betraying his race and why he's attacked as

1138
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:30.279
and Uncle Tom, do you think
Justice Thomas at this point, after thirty

1139
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:34.319
two years on the US Supreme Court
would takes those criticisms to heart and is

1140
01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:38.279
angry about them. I know,
well, I know he would argue against

1141
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:41.920
it. Constantly, But you think
it hurts him that because you're black or

1142
01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:45.680
an Indian or a white you have
to think and behave and rule in a

1143
01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:48.960
certain way. How offensive would you
find that as an Indian American that is

1144
01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:53.560
a person of color. Judge the
part there's something that you have to do

1145
01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:58.520
and rule a certain way because of
the color of your skin. Yeah,

1146
01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:01.239
I mean, I think we all
find it offensive to say we have to

1147
01:36:01.479 --> 01:36:04.199
think a certain way. I know, if you tell your own kids they

1148
01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:09.039
have to think a certain way,
they find it offensive. And Justice Tom

1149
01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:13.560
has said himself that he will assert, and I'm quoting from the book,

1150
01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:16.439
my right to think for myself,
to refuse to have my ideas assigned to

1151
01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:20.680
me as though I was an intellectual
slave because I am black, To state

1152
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:25.600
that I am a man free to
think for myself and do as I please,

1153
01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:29.760
And to assert that I am a
judge and I will not be consigned

1154
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:35.880
to the unquestioned opinions of others.
And the People's Justice talks about that.

1155
01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:41.640
He responds to that while he may
be hurt by the criticisms, I don't

1156
01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:45.359
know. I haven't asked him.
I know he will never let them affect

1157
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:50.239
him because he takes his oath to
the constitutions so seriously and in the People's

1158
01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:55.239
justice. You see that firsthand in
his own words. You see it through

1159
01:36:55.279 --> 01:37:00.560
the party's eyes. You see what
it means to the women trying to challenge

1160
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:04.239
Bill Cosby having Justice Thomas on their
side. How many times do you see

1161
01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:11.199
that reported was full on saying it, But he was saying, though,

1162
01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:16.840
it shouldn't be that the law stops
the victims of Bill Cosby from challenging his

1163
01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:21.960
lies about them. Well, you've
taken choice. Yeah, he is what

1164
01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:27.359
a judge should be, has been, could be, and it's amazing.

1165
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:31.640
I'm waiting for a positive piece on
sixty minutes on some other national program.

1166
01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:36.039
Maybe the New York Times or Washington
Post would do a positive piece in my

1167
01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:41.479
In his thirty two years on the
bench, in my forty years in talk

1168
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:46.039
radio, I've never read a positive
mainstream media piece about the upbringing of Clarence

1169
01:37:46.079 --> 01:37:49.920
Thomas. His brilliance, his ability
to turn a phrase, the fact that

1170
01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:54.800
he's originalist, the fact that he
believes in the Constitution, the fact that

1171
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:59.279
he's known and respected by those around
the US Supreme Court, that the fact

1172
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:03.279
that he's been clear aired of ethical
violations repeatedly by the US Judicial Conference that

1173
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:08.359
has never reported. They will report
lies and distortions, but never the truth.

1174
01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:12.600
Judge the part. We could spend
all day on this. But how

1175
01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:16.199
did the American people get a copy
of This book comes out nationally on the

1176
01:38:16.319 --> 01:38:19.159
twentieth of this month, June.
But how did the American people get an

1177
01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:25.119
early copy? Yeah? I go
to Amazon right now order it. We

1178
01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:30.079
have a Twitter page they just put
up at ct const Stories. You can

1179
01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:33.880
find it on Twitter. We'll have
all the reviews there. They'll have all

1180
01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:39.119
the blurbs there. But you can
order it right now on Amazon. Hopefully

1181
01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:42.680
you'll leave me a review and Bill, I'll come back and maybe your readers

1182
01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.960
can send you some questions after they've
read the book, and I'd be happy

1183
01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:47.640
to answer. You can pose them
to me, or we can do it

1184
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:51.199
however you'd like. You were the
first radio show I got to do,

1185
01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:55.359
the first piece of press I got
to do. I'm honored to do it.

1186
01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:58.239
I wanted to do it in my
home city, and you made it

1187
01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:00.560
a possibility. So thank you God
bless you for doing it. Well.

1188
01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:04.079
You got an appointment in about two
months. Judge A mule at the par

1189
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:09.880
And you've led a brilliant life yourself. And because of the journey and because

1190
01:39:09.960 --> 01:39:13.079
of the things that you've gone through
in your life and your family's gone through,

1191
01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:15.880
I know that gives you insight into
the soul of Clarence Thomas. At

1192
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:19.399
the end of his days, he
will rest in heaven next to God Almighty.

1193
01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:24.119
He's a great justice. Clarence Thomas
and Judge the par once again,

1194
01:39:24.359 --> 01:39:27.960
thank you for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show and doing me the honor of

1195
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:30.640
your first interview. Thank you,
Thank you very much. God bless you.

1196
01:39:30.640 --> 01:39:34.279
All Right, let's continue with more
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They mus Traffic and News Radio seven
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1202
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has kept busy over the weekend as
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1203
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1204
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been busy at campaign stops and on
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1205
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The former chief executive is expected to
head to Florida midday, a day ahead

1206
01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:30.359
of his federal court appearance and arrangement
Tuesday on the class of high Documents indictment,

1207
01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:34.119
say source is familiar with the planning
to ABC News. They also say

1208
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mister Trump and his close allies have
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1209
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to hire. Now. The latest
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01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:50.479
of fifty eight will be partly mostly
cloudy with a wind out of the north

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end west at fifteen miles per hour
throughout the day. On Monday, passing

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01:40:55.079 --> 01:40:58.600
clouds, temperatures right towards seventy one
with a northwest win at ten to fifteen.

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Could have a few isolated hours into
the afternoon evening in a better chance

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01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:04.800
at rain coming in on Tuesday with
a hive seventy six. Wednesday rain chances

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01:41:04.840 --> 01:41:09.359
as well at seventy seven from the
severe weather station. I'm nine verst wanting

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01:41:09.399 --> 01:41:14.840
media roologists Brandon Spinner News Radio seven
hundred W WELLW radar showing rain moving out

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01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:17.399
of the area is still lingering a
little bit up around Xenia and over at

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01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:24.479
Washington Courthouse a bit as well.
It's currently sixty two degrees. Kroger officials

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01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:29.279
say they're working with the FBI and
other law authorities regarding the rash of bomb

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01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:33.000
threats made to Cincinnati area stores over
the weekend. Sunday morning, the North

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01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:39.640
College Hill Kroger became the sixth store
to receive a bomb threat. Police investigated

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01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:45.600
and the store resumed operations just before
noon on Saturday, Oakley, Newport,

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01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:50.279
Bellevue, Cold Spring, and Erlanger
locations were all evacuated due to bomb threats.

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01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:57.560
Authorities do believe all the threats were
part of a nationwide hoax. The

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01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:02.159
Reds taking two of three Insane Lewis
are in Kansas City taking on the Royals.

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01:42:02.239 --> 01:42:05.600
Tonight's game begins at eight ten pm. Our coverage on the Big One

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01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:11.359
begins with the Inside Pitch at seven
ten. Our next update one o'clock.

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01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:15.800
I'm Sean McCormick. News Radio seven
hundred w l W. In this week's

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01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:19.039
Marketers Report, Chris Brand, chief
marketing officer at Chipotle Mexican Grill. Wait,

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01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:21.680
my, Billy Cunningham, the Great
American. Of course, we're living

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01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:28.159
in essentially the third Obama term,
separated by four years of Donald Trump,

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01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:31.640
and some say a fourth Obama term
is going to start in twenty twenty four.

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01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:38.159
A new book is out Obama's True
Legacy, Barack Obama is true legacy,

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01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:42.399
how he transformed America. And of
course the author of this great book

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01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:46.479
is Daniel Greenfield. And Daniel Greenfield, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.000
And I want to go back to
the beginning, Daniel, but I

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01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:54.319
want to skip ahead briefly to a
meeting that happened in the summer of twenty

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01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:58.600
sixteen when Obama was in the White
House in the Oval Office and the re

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01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:02.760
meetings held about the false information about
the Republican candidate. At that point,

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01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:08.159
Donald Trump explained to the American people
what happened at that summer meeting in twenty

1242
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:14.279
sixteen, Well, well, King
at was it was a coup. It

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01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:19.159
was an attempt to target political opponents
using the entire might of the intelligence community,

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01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:23.960
the Justice Department, and to do
it under the guise of national security.

1245
01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:27.239
Of course, we know a good
deal of that. What is supports

1246
01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:30.920
to remember is that the people doing
this have not actually gone away just because

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01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:34.399
Obama is out of office, because
it's not just about Obama. What we

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01:43:34.479 --> 01:43:39.119
focus very much on Obama. What
we're talking about is the Obama administration,

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01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:43.760
which means the people who are doing
it are still very much an office in

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01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:45.960
the Biden administration. And while some
people, a few of them have paid

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01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:50.399
the price. We've seen Peter Stir's
k and Resa Page, the kicked out

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01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:55.760
of the FBI, the bottom line
is that the people, the entire network,

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01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:59.520
the networks, the Clinton and Obama
network that bill this, are still

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01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:02.680
very much where they were before.
So for those who only read the headlines,

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01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:08.079
imagine a meeting in the summer of
twenty sixteen and all the polls were

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01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:13.720
indicating Hillary Clinton was very likely to
win. But there was a problem because

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01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:18.000
James Comey was holding a news conference
in July that said that this email server

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01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:24.279
difficulty of Hillary Clinton was extremely serious. If a Republican had done it,

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01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:28.800
there would have been a multiple count
indictments against Hillary Clinton and god knows who

1260
01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:32.439
else. But because there was a
fear that someone outside the circle would win.

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01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:42.439
Obama, Biden, others, National
Security Clapper Comey got involved in a

1262
01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:48.359
conspiracy to do what did Donald Trump. So they were going to stop.

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01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:53.399
They were going to stop. I
mean, what was at stake here beyond

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01:44:54.359 --> 01:44:58.760
the election, was having their abuse
as exposed. They could not risk a

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01:44:58.920 --> 01:45:02.560
Republican industration coming in, certainly not
a Trump administration coming in and peering back

1266
01:45:03.640 --> 01:45:08.239
all their sins over eight years.
So they needed to stop Trump by any

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01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:13.119
means necessary. And the Clinton campaign
had already produced a good deal of materials

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01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:15.880
for the angle that they wanted to
follow, which would become to be known

1269
01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:20.680
as Russia Gate. It was this
claimed that Trump was tied in with the

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01:45:20.760 --> 01:45:25.600
Russians. We've all seen this play
out with the stew Dartie. But the

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01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:28.880
key reason why this was so important
is this was not just a line of

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01:45:28.920 --> 01:45:31.600
political attack. It was a line
of investigative attack. And as they just

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01:45:31.720 --> 01:45:36.279
said that Trump was a bad,
bad man, that would not occasion any

1274
01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:41.680
action by the Justice Appartment alone by
the intelligence community by bringing in Russia.

1275
01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:45.960
This was a calculated plan coordinated with
the Obama White House to make sure that

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01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:50.079
the intelligence community would be brought into
this, that they'd be able to treat

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01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:54.920
this like a foreign enemy threat,
which meant that all the gloves would be

1278
01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:00.840
offered, be no legal protections whatsoever. And running this past and Biden was

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01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:05.520
part of the process because ultimately the
buck did indeed stuck with them, so

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01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:11.359
I would imagine then September October,
it was still looking like well things were

1281
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:15.279
working. The leaks from the Obama
administration to the news media in this country

1282
01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:20.680
indicated that Trump was a Russian asset, when the opposite was true. It

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01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:26.760
was Hillary Clinton who committed illegal behaviors
with Russian to find dirt about Trump during

1284
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:30.720
the Miss World contest. It proved
to be false. The FBI knew it

1285
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:33.119
was false, the ci knew it
was false, the d I knew it

1286
01:46:33.239 --> 01:46:38.640
was false. But after the election, when Trump won, then the real

1287
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:42.960
panic set in because now, oh
my god, well we got a real

1288
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:47.680
problem now, because we've been lying
to federal judges with affidavits before the Fires

1289
01:46:47.680 --> 01:46:53.239
Accords to get illegal search warrants.
And if Trump is actually not tied down

1290
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:59.039
with impeachments and tied down as president
with investigations, we all might be found

1291
01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:02.479
out how much of a panic was
Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the FBI

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01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:09.760
in in January, February, in
March of twenty seventeen. There was certainly

1293
01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:14.479
a lot of concern there. And
now, unfortunately the reality is that Republican

1294
01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:17.640
administrations don't have a great track record
of going back what the bureaucracy was doing.

1295
01:47:18.079 --> 01:47:20.319
And so a few of these people
actually paid a price. But they

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01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:26.079
were absolutely worried. They believed that
potentially, if you know, the Trump

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01:47:26.079 --> 01:47:31.319
inmisation had executed the material they actually
revealed all of this because right now we've

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01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:35.479
seen pretty much nobody go down for
anything. The quote the quote of the

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01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:43.399
Durham Report ended with basically nobody facing
any consequences. Kevin Klein Smith ended up

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01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:48.119
with a year which is served basically
on probation had they left this organization.

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01:47:48.520 --> 01:47:53.079
The other two cases fell through,
but they were absolutely afraid that they would

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01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:57.399
face the most serious consequence as possible, and so they had to do anything

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01:47:57.479 --> 01:48:01.199
possible to protect themselves. And so
we through like a thirty month process with

1304
01:48:01.319 --> 01:48:05.960
the Muller Report, and after all
that, thirty FBI agents, tens of

1305
01:48:06.039 --> 01:48:11.039
millions of dollars he test devized before
the Congress in the middle of the Trump

1306
01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:15.520
term. There's no there there,
There was no Russian effort through Donald Trump

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01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:19.079
to affect our election. It was
all a bunch of bs. We go

1308
01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:23.960
through really three years of the Durham
Report. He comes out about a month

1309
01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:27.840
or two ago with the same information. No one's taken a fall other than

1310
01:48:27.840 --> 01:48:30.920
the Kleine Smith, which means nobody
took a fall of those responsible, and

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01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:35.600
that continues today. So then the
Biden clan takes over and the old Obama

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01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:43.039
crowd comes back into the White House
in order to run the Biden administration.

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01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:48.520
Secondly, how Obama destroyed race relations
in America for his political gain, leading

1314
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:55.159
to the broken nation we have today. Fifteen twenty years ago, race relations

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01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:59.520
were pretty good. Obama gets elected
in November of twenty eight. At that

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01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:03.520
point, the great majority seventy one
percent of American people say race relations are

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01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:06.479
great. A person is judged by
the quality of their work, not the

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01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:11.399
color of their skin. Things are
good. But then the twenty ten election

1319
01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:15.399
rolls around and it looks as if
Obama is going to get is gonna lose

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01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:19.319
big time. So Obama played the
race card. How did Barack Hussein Obama

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01:49:19.479 --> 01:49:27.159
destroy race relations in America after and
during his presidency. But we are still

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01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:30.720
kind of dealing with the aftermath of
the twenty twenty Blacklads Matter Rise. But

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01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:32.800
all this really got it start as
an electoral program, as you said,

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01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:38.840
under Obama. You know, initially
Obama built his image on being a non

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01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:42.479
ratio. There's not a black America, white America. He comes in twenty

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01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:46.199
ten, the myth terms are bad
and they're only getting worse each time a

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01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:51.039
sum An election comes up. He
jettison's the whole post racial thing. He

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01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:56.520
becomes an explicit three ratio warrior.
And part of that is using the Justice

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01:49:56.560 --> 01:50:00.960
Department to cultivate or will become Black
Claws Matter. Before Obama, race riots

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01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:03.439
really very much in the rear view
mirror. People would walk back to the

1331
01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:09.079
La riots in the nineties, and
that was a long time ago. Obama

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01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:12.199
ushooting the new wave of race riots
and the key moment where it was the

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01:50:12.399 --> 01:50:17.079
Ferguson riot, which Obama's Justice Department
came in and actually cultivated the organized There

1334
01:50:17.239 --> 01:50:21.000
is a part of the Justice Department
people who generally don't know about the Community

1335
01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:28.720
Relations Team whose goal is to resolve
racial conflict. They operate secretly. They

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01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:32.720
came into Ferguson, they beganizing and
bringing everything up. They helped build this

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01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:38.520
organization and they were doing it in
obviously there's a larger leptics agenda here,

1338
01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:43.000
but they were doing this also to
help Obama and Democrats win elections. You

1339
01:50:43.319 --> 01:50:46.279
actually see a pattern of these things
the Ferguson rights in twenty fourteen. Before

1340
01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:49.319
that has been events in twenty ten, twenty twelve, and of course the

1341
01:50:49.359 --> 01:50:54.640
snow cut incidence that all this was
happening in twenty twenty. These things are

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01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:58.760
scheduled around the elections. They're meant
to boost turnout, especially in the black

1343
01:50:58.840 --> 01:51:02.680
community, and intimidate political opponents.
So these are not just race rights,

1344
01:51:02.800 --> 01:51:08.840
their political campaign events that were being
organized from within the Justice Department. We

1345
01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:12.359
talked about rushing again in the Justice
Department, the race rights also coming out

1346
01:51:12.399 --> 01:51:15.039
of the Justice Department. Well,
hands Up, Don't Shoot was a lie,

1347
01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:21.479
And in twenty fourteen Obama was rather
tenuous about his legacy. What was

1348
01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:26.560
going to occur and when hands Up, Don't Shoot proved to be a lie,

1349
01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:30.439
it took about nine months for that
to occur. There was no recompense

1350
01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:33.640
to see and ends of the world
which has collapsed, set up camp in

1351
01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:40.119
Missouri and said we're here for the
duration, and they kept putting on individuals

1352
01:51:40.199 --> 01:51:45.279
to tell lie after lie after lie
that the police officer was the victim of

1353
01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:48.880
a vicious assault by Michael Brown who
had just committed a strong arm robbery and

1354
01:51:48.920 --> 01:51:53.640
a delicate tessant, and the call
went out. The police officer, I

1355
01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:56.960
think his name was Darren McGavin if
I'm correct, he shows up at the

1356
01:51:57.039 --> 01:52:02.079
scene to see what's going on,
and Obama Justice Department, after about a

1357
01:52:02.159 --> 01:52:08.439
year determined then Michael Brown turned and
ran at the police officer, assault at

1358
01:52:08.479 --> 01:52:14.159
the police officer inside is Ferguson police
car. And then that is what was

1359
01:52:14.279 --> 01:52:17.159
being told by some in the beginning. But by the time CNN and the

1360
01:52:17.279 --> 01:52:21.920
mainstream media got done, race rides
broke out all over the country and Obama

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01:52:23.079 --> 01:52:28.399
was uniquely positioned Daniel Greenfield to stop
that from occurring, but failed to do

1362
01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:33.159
so. He wanted to format racial
difficulties because it fit his political goals,

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01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:39.399
and if he was a popular president
in twenty twenty twelve, twenty fourteen,

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01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:42.600
none of this would have happened,
but he had to gin up the black

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01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:46.279
vote in the liberal vote. So
Obama used race rides for political purposes.

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01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:51.560
That continues through today, and Black
Lives Matter has collapsed the organization because the

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01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:56.760
leaders of that group use all the
money donated to build great homes. Now,

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01:52:56.960 --> 01:53:00.840
thirdly, I want to talk about
Biden carrying on AMA's policy of financing

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01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.119
terrorism in Israel. As you may
know, about two weeks ago, I

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01:53:05.199 --> 01:53:11.119
completed a two week tour of Israel. I came back more and more positive

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01:53:11.439 --> 01:53:15.399
about the Jewish people and what's happening
in Israel than ever before. How did

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01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:25.920
Obama poisoned America's relation with Israel that
continues with Biden today. Well, unfortunately,

1373
01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:30.279
we're at twenty people killed in Israel
so far this year. This is

1374
01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:34.119
something that we can very much trace
to Obama and Biden the by administration.

1375
01:53:34.279 --> 01:53:39.399
As we started massive amounts of age
to terrorists, as Obama did, and

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01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:44.119
Obama very calculated, we decided to
create a break with Israel because he wanted

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01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:47.399
to shift the support over to Iran, to Islamic terrorist state. He did

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01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:54.760
this very effectively by using the media
to create this myth that the Ken Yahoo

1379
01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:58.600
Prime minister's yell of Israel was somehow
insulting him on a regular basis, and

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01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:01.880
of course once again playing the race
card and claiming that this was racism.

1381
01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:06.800
These things were escalated really as part
of again they foreign policy dispute, because

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01:54:06.840 --> 01:54:11.600
the Commonization wanted to support the Muslim
Brotherhood, which is a cousin of Al

1383
01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:15.880
Qaida in Egypt and in other places, they wanted to back Iran. As

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01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:19.079
part of this, they had to
dump america traditional allies Israel, Egypt,

1385
01:54:19.119 --> 01:54:24.000
saw the Arabia, and other countries
that have been traditionally aligned with the United

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01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:27.800
States. Obama talked about doing this
as far back as two thousand and five,

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01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:30.720
two thousand and six, long before
he was seriously going to be president.

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01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:35.159
This was part of the Islamic agenda. Yet he racialized this, and

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01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:40.800
once again this was the pattern we
discussed before about creating racial conflict. He

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01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:43.800
was creating racial conflict in an area
of foreign pols, in an area of

1391
01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:48.079
Americans relationship with Israel. But there
was a point that where everything just became

1392
01:54:48.159 --> 01:54:54.119
about racial no matter what. And
meanwhile, Israeli Jews and even Americans who

1393
01:54:54.119 --> 01:54:58.760
were non Jewish like they were forced
who was a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq

1394
01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:02.039
who was killed in Israel and result
of the tail Force Acts funding Paris in

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01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:10.159
Israel, these people were deal also
being supported politically and economically by Obama.

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01:55:10.920 --> 01:55:14.279
How dangerous is it right now?
Because my time in Israel, I suppoke

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01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:17.840
to some Israeli government officials and they
said, this is about the most dangerous

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01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:23.119
time we've had in the past several
decades because of what's happening in Iran,

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01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:27.960
because of the policies of Baraku,
Saint Obama and the Alkalights that run the

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01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:31.880
Biden administration. From Obama, why
do Israeli's feel as if this is a

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01:55:32.119 --> 01:55:36.960
very dangerous time because of America's non
support of Israel. What's happening now with

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01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:43.399
Iran? What's happening with Israel?
Give us your view on that Iran is

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01:55:43.439 --> 01:55:46.600
moving forward with its nuclear program.
This was always going to happen. This

1404
01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:51.199
is what the Obama ran you amounted
too. The only difference is that they've

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01:55:51.239 --> 01:55:57.359
had trouble lowering sanctions on Iran,
but they've managed to get billions of dollars

1406
01:55:57.399 --> 01:56:01.479
in sanction really through South Korea,
through other sources to Iran anyway, which

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01:56:01.520 --> 01:56:05.079
means Iran has more money to finance
terrorism. It has more money to pursue

1408
01:56:05.079 --> 01:56:09.800
its nuclear program, and a nuclear
program is not just direct hit at Israel,

1409
01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:14.399
but at Europe and America. They're
using ballistic missiles that they're getting through

1410
01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:20.399
Pakistan through North Korea to build weapons
they can strike much further out and beyond

1411
01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:27.840
that. Iran's financing terrorism in is
Row, and the bidenstriation is also financing

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terrorism in Israel. So there's been
an upsurge of violence under Trump, three

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people were killed in Israel in twenty
twenty after he caught aid. This year,

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a radio has been twenty people dead. So that's a massive increase in

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casualties. And while most of Israel
is still basically safe rocket attacks, terror

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attacks are a growing reality, and
they're growing because we're putting money into Iran.

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We're putting money into the PO and
other terrorist groups. Lastly, about

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a minute remaining, isn't it true
that Obama and all of his friends and

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alkohlights manipulate in control the Joe Biden
administration. It's the Bimus Mission consists of

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Elizabeth Warren's people and Obama's people.
They're the most radical elements around and Obama

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con vacation permanently in Hawaii. But
his people are still at the wheel.

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They're the ones who set policy.
Biden hardy sets policy, hardly knows where

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he is. The destructive policies that
are undermining America, brought American at home,

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they're allowing China free rank are coming
from Obama's people. I'll tell you,

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Daniel Greenfield, it's frightening. And
I had a guest on a few

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days ago that talked about the next
administration. Maybe Joe Biden is the presidential

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candidate and Barack Husaint Obama is the
vice presidential candidate. Many have gone to

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Michelle and said, you got to
run for president. She says, I

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don't. I don't want to run. My life's too easy. But Barack

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Husaint Obama could run for vice president. Even the twenty second Amendment doesn't talk

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about running elected as vice president.
Then he would be the president if and

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when Abiden mentally cannot perform, in
which case he's the acting president. And

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most scholars I've spoken to said Obama
could become the president again, just can't

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run for reelection in twenty twenty eight, where we may have a twelve year

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cycle of Obama is the leader of
this country internationally destroyed the four years of

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Donald Trump's administration with lies, and
the media seldom reports on it. But

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Daniel Greenfield, your book does which
is Barack Obama's true legacy? Is out

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01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:35.119
now. Dennis Praeger says it's profoundly
disturbing, and once again, Daniel Greenfield,

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01:58:35.399 --> 01:58:39.520
thank you for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. Good luck. Let's

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get the word out to the American
people. Thank you so much. Bill

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01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:46.359
cunning Him, the Great American live
with you every Sunday Night. In this

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01:58:46.479 --> 01:58:51.439
week's Marketers Report, I feel a
cunning Him thanks for our listening tonight and

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01:58:51.960 --> 01:58:57.720
some great gusts out more coming up, including US senator and including former FBI

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01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:00.920
agents next Sunday night. I'm gonna
stay with it because too much is at

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stake. This is not a Banana
Republic. I love Chequidas, but let's

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01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:10.640
face it, I don't live in
a Banana Republic or the Democratic Party can

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prosecute the leader of the opposition party
and maybe lock him up before the election.

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There are too many profound legal issues
at stake, including what's happening in

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the US Supreme Court. Unanimous decision
nineteen eighty eight Navy versus Egan, who

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said that only the president can classify
or declassify any national security information, and

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that ability flows from the Constitution,
not from the Congress. And so if

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the president can show that, which
he has said repeatedly that he declassified everything

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01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:48.800
that was taken to mar Lago,
if he can show that directly or indirectly,

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01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:55.880
guess what, the case evaporates.
You can't obstruct a justice or obstruct

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01:59:55.960 --> 02:00:00.159
the discovery of a crime that doesn't
exist. And even though there said referring

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to Trump, a few months after
that, somehow he showed his buyer for

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some classified information and said certain things. If that information he showed was declassified

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by the President while still in office, the whole case evaporates. And that

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is a fear that the Democrats had. I want the Trump standard to be

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applied to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Now wouldn't that be enjoyed? Thanks

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for listening, Bill Cunningham, the
great American with you and all other great

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Americans every Suddent years. Hi,
I'm Joe Sweene