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the Paranormal UK Radio Network. It all began with an incident which occurred in
nineteen forty seven. On the afternoon of June twenty fourth of that year,
Kenneth Arnold made the first report on flying saucers. On this day, Arnold
took off from Chehalis, Washington and flew toward the Rainier Plateau at an elevation
between nine and ten thousand feet over Mineral Washington. He observed a formation of
very bright objects to the north. He radioed ahead that they appeared to be
close to the mountaintops and traveling at tremendous speed. Arnold counted nine objects in
echelon formation. He observed that they had no tales and described them as saucer
shaped objects. You're listening to Paranormal Dimensions with David Young part of the Paranormal
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For now, let's start today's show. Tell me young Man, what
new reports are you getting I'm unidentified flying up flying saucers. All. They
keep coming in every once in a while, but we don't take them too
seriously. Oh no, hello, and welcome to the show. I'm David
Young. Now, as this show goes out, I'm actually in the United
States. Of course, this was recorded just before I went and as it
happens, as the show goes out, I will be in Tupelo, Mississippi,
and that actually is where my guest resides. Believe it or not,
the name is Nancy Thames. So hopefully by the time this show goes out,
I would have actually met Nancy if all goes to plan, which obviously
I'll mention on the next show when I'll get back. So I hope you'll
enjoy the show with Nancy Thames. Hello, Nancy, Welcome to the show.
Thank you. I'm proud to be here. I love being doing this
and talking about my most favorite topic. It's I love it. Well,
that's that's what I want to hear. I'll just ask you that, and
I wonder if you could ever get fed up with doing these shows. But
no, I'm pleased to have you on the show. I really am,
and I must say as this show goes out, I shall be in Suplo
because my wife and we're big Elvis fans, So we're actually going to Memphis
and then we'll be coming down to Tupelo, and so you never know,
we won't bump into each other. Oh I hope. So I work pretty
much downtown, so I may run into you down. Yeah, there's some
really fantastic places downtown. You know, it's not like Memphis or anything,
but it's small, but you can get your Memphis feeling. And there's a
nice visitor center and a really nice uh Tupeleau hotel across the street and has
a really good restaurant. But I think they're only open at night, so
you might check that one out. Right. We have been too before a
couple of songs actually, But so we go to the Elvis Center, you
know with the I don't know if you're an Elvis fan. In one they'll
be living in Tuplo and yeah, yeah, but now we're looking forward to
also to get a bit of sunshine. The sunshine is just about coming out
now over here, but it's people. You get cold spells in the sunshine
and everything. But so yeah, we're looking forward to coming over, so
you never know, you're maybe maybe we'll arrange over a coup of coffee or
something. Yeah, anyway, it's it's good to walk you to the show
again. Now we're talking about disclosure. I believe as far as you're concerned,
are you do you think that disclosure is even I do, I really
really do. And I know that you talk to a lot of people like
me, and I know that a lot of people have experiences, and I
know that the people that listen to you, they've heard a lot of the
same old stories and stuff. But I think mine's a little different in the
fact that I am a contact team. I've never considered myself an abductive because
from birth, I have had face to face contact interactions, conversations, experiences
with interdimensionals and positive extra traustrials, and basically I did not know or understand
why it was happening. I knew it was happening, and I knew that
they had reasons for it. But at the different times of my life.
I'm sixty three years old now, and you know, all through my young
childhood, when I was very young, I was not scared. Nothing had
programmed me to think any differently. So I took it as it was.
It was beautiful, it's pleasant. They made it fun, they made it
interesting, and really and truly, fear only came to me as I got
older, and that's because the world around me that I lived in was telling
me these things can't be real, these things are dreams, these things are
demonic, these things. You cannot discuss these things with other people. They
will put you in a middle institution. So you know, it was very
confusing through my teenage years up into my twenties because I knew in my heart
it wasn't anything negative, but everything around me was telling me and my experience
things were happening that doesn't ordinarily happen in our three D world. For example,
when they would come to get me, they would always send three grades.
One is a female gray and she has been with me since birth,
and she would take a handheld device and regardless if I was awake or asleep,
she would run this device up and down from head to toe, toe
to head, head to toe. And this happened all throughout my life up
into my thirties, and I never understood why it was happening. But I
didn't know that what she did that my body would start to elevate and then
I would be holding hands with her, and then that would be our procession
to go up through a ceiling or through a window or through a door.
And I can remember looking around when we're going through the ceiling, and I
would be looking at insulation, and I would be looking at things that my
family had stored up there, and I was it was unbelievable, because I
was like, this is real, this is can I just jump in with
her? Was actually actually physically going or was actually your actual buddy? No,
it was my physical body. And so I was looking down and my
bed was empty, and I would look at her and in my mind I
would ask her what are we doing? And she would not answer me.
Because I realized now that it took me a lot of years and a lot
of them working with me to get me to a spiritual level of understanding and
a higher consciousness level. Before none of it really, none of the pieces
really fit together. And unfortunately, as I got even older and I would
get fearful, what they would do is she would tap me on the forehead
and put me in a trance like state or a I was fully functional,
but I was like all my emotions and fears and everything were gone. And
the only problem with that is that when I would come back and she'd get
me back to the bed, and if I would wake up, my memories
would be fragmented, not like a bluid flow. It would be like bits
and pieces and nothing. I could ever just put it all together, you
know, because it just was so unreal anyway, not something that we experience
here on earth. So anyway, so as I got older, it got
to the point where I actually witnessed saying my two sons being taken for their
first visit. And that was very hard for me because before, when it
was just me, I could I could, I could suppress and I could
deal with it. And I did suppress it. Nobody wanted to hear talk
about this. They thought it was like crazy dreams or you know, or
I don't know, stuff like you have you feel, you know, like
there might be something wrong. So I learned very quickly that you do not
talk about these things. The world is not ready. And I grew up
in this South. I grew up in Tennessee, and it's pretty much the
Bible Belt through here, and you just cannot talk about these kind of things.
It is a big no no. So anyway, as I progress getting
older and I started demanding information from them, I would meditate and say,
I need answers to know why this is happening. So I did. I
meditated, and I asked for a face to face and I asked for them
to answer my questions. And the graves did come for me, not immediately.
I don't summon them or anything of that nature. You know, I
don't have any weird abilities or anything. I just meditated and asked for this,
and they came at their own timeline, you know, when they were
wanted to. And so when they did, the graves took me on craft.
When I get on craft, I don't see the graves anymore. And
once I'm on craft, I'm around interdimensional tall grays, Nordics, some aquatic
beings, different beings. This is a craft where there's many different races.
Is where I was at where they take me. So they took me before
a group of elders is what they called them, a group of elders.
And when I went before the elders, I asked them why this was happening
to me, What was the purpose, what is the meaning? And Basically,
they told me that before I became a human being, that I had
made an agreement to come here and to be here at this particular time for
humanity to help assist in their ascension, their understanding of that we are not
alone in the universe, and to help humanity to branch over and understand their
place in the cosmic realm, and that I didn't understand the whole meaning of
all this, and I said, I don't remember any of this, so
they showed me a vision. In the vision, I saw myself pretty much
as a being that was seen and waiting. And then they came to me
and said, it's time for your human experience. When you get there,
you will not remember any of this, and we will come to visit you
throughout your life to prepare you for your purpose for being there. And that's
basically what has happened. So again, it just you know, it's always
happened. It never stopped. I've tried living in different countries. I've lived
in Australia, I've lived in Hawaii, I've lived all over the United States.
I lived a little wall in e Zealing. It does not matter where
you are, and it doesn't matter what you do. It was part of
my life. You know, you have been around a bit, yeah,
yeah, yeah. So so anyway, about five years ago I decided that
when I was in while even further than that, when I hit fifty somewhere
in there, I decided that I'm not ashamed of who I am. And
I started the website and I started the Facebook group, and I was I
was, I'm single, I was no longer in a relationships with people that
found it embarrassing or you know, like thought something was wrong with it.
And I finally got to the point where I just said, you know,
so be it. The family that loves me will love me for who I
am. I'm going to speak the truth and this is who I am.
So about two years ago I still hadn't jumped in and started doing podcasts,
and the Intermensionals and the positive Extra Treascials gave me a condolini awakening. And
when that happened, and they did this because I was always asking questions during
our experiences and they would always reply to meet you already know, and I
was like, I don't you know, but they kept telling me so,
I mean your human self but yeah, yeah, And basically that was the
problem. I was letting my human consciousness question what I knew. I was
questioning, why do I know this? Where did I get this information from?
Et cetera. So they gave me the Condolini awake then, and that
scared me to death. I didn't know what it was. I had no
clue. My meditating was really is the only talk to them. That was
my way of communicating with them when I wasn't physically with them. So I
was laying in the bed and I woke up and my body was pulled forward
and I was sitting up in the bed and I had like this surge of
energy just goes from my crown all the way down to the lower tree,
and then it would come back up, and then my body would go back
and then it would do it again. And it did that like three times.
And then I had what seemed like I don't really know what it was,
but I ended up having an experience, and I ended up at this
place with other humans that were all gathered together. And the best I can
figure is that they had had this, had all had this awakening, and
this was a gathering of us to communicate. But for me, I was
in such shock and did not understand it was I was useless in the whole
ordeal. And then, you know, so I ended up back home and
I didn't tell anybody about this for a while because I didn't understand what had
happened to me. I did not understand at all. So later when I
had visitation from them again, they explained to me that they opened to my
subconscious up unto my human consciousness, to help me to remember who I am,
my purpose here, and all the questions that I asked them that they
told me, I already know that I would start to listen to myself more
so they gave me the condolini awakening. So at that point then I realized,
and they told me as we communicated, I was an interdimensional being before
I came to Earth, and my children were as well, and we all
made a decision to come here and to assist humanity and be a part of
the greatest thing that's ever happened to human beings. Since this is it,
this is a big deal. This is humans are finally at a pivotal moment
where we are our technology is so wonderful and we can either do good with
it are bad with it, and we are reaching higher levels of consciousness for
the first time, and our awareness is going to open up and see more.
We're going to experience more, and we're moving from a three D world
into a fourth dimenssional world. And they are basically that is what brought them
here. Humanity reaching a higher level of consciousness and their awareness of it brought
the inner dimensionals and the positive extraterrestrials down in big numbers and motherships in our
galaxy and the lower realm or lower I call them low or negative extraterrestrials that
had been around us and that had made treaties with our governments and whatnot and
done some genetic research. And it wasn't just one race. There was like
I call a rogue race is that kind of left the positive collective consciousness of
the interdimensionals and positives and they came down here. And when they did that,
they were no longer part of that collective consciousness, and they did like
their own little self centered agendas, which was not to anything to help humanity.
It was self serving for their own race, their own agenda. And
so that was our first experience really with terrestrials. You know what, when
I say they're negative they're not demonic, they are just very self centered.
They don't care that human beings as sind. They don't care that they like
us at this lower conscious level because we are easily able to be controlled and
manipulated at this level, and we have been controlled and manipulated for eons.
And it's not by them. It is from eliks and dark fractions of government,
dark fractions of the cabal, the illubinati, these dark groups that all
work together, and the really rich elites that all work together, and they
want to keep our population and control. They want to keep us unhealthy,
and they want to keep us at a lower conscious level. So that's why
we have toxins in our air, we have toxins in our water, toxins
in our food. In America is the worst place. What the FDA here
approves is ridiculous. So all of these things in our social media and our
well our TV at our radio stations and television stations are all controlled by these
same group of peoples, isn't it. Yeah? And it's all negative,
all negative feed because they want to keep humanity separated. Humanity when it was
designed, we are supposed to all be connected, because we are all one.
We are all energy beings here, and we are all alike, none
of us are any better than the other. And we are one with Mother
Earth, and we are one with all the animals and planets and creatures and
the elements and minerals and everything on this planet. And we have because of
this programming that's been going on for eons, we have lost our connection with
our planet. We have lost our connections with nature because they have us in
a slave race, and a materialistic slave working nine to five, making a
buck and eating all these horrible foods, using fossil fuels, using not giving
us the technology. They're sitting on technology that could make our lives better,
and they have cures for all the diseases, but they they're sitting on these
things because they cannot make money off of intelligent, healthy people. And the
healthier we are, we live longer lives. So this is one way how
they kind of control the population. So when the interdimensionals and the positives saw
human beings are waking up and they're going as we wake up, we will
realize that these old ways of programming us no longer service. They no longer
service. We do not desire wars. They get us nowhere. We do
do not desire negative things on our televisions. Negatively works at making people sick.
Negativity keeps brings depression, activity, and keeps people divided, creates tension,
fear, et cetera. All these things were done to keep us separated
because they know if we humunity comes together as one, we are unstoppable.
They cannot do anything. And that is what's happening to Earth right now.
All of us are waking up and reaching higher levels of consciousness, and the
extra treastrials and interdimensionals are around our galaxy and our around our planet, and
they're putting in frequencies a love, frequencies of unity to assist us in our
endeavor. We are finally waking up and understanding who we are, our connection
because from what they have shown me, everything on this planet, everything that
lives on this planet is alive. Our planet Earth is a living conscious being.
All other planets are living conscious being. The universe is a living conscious
being. Our air, our water, our trees, our plants, our
oceans, our seas, insects, everything rocks, Everything is a living conscious
being. It may not have the same consciousness as a human, but it's
still a living, conscious being. And when we were created, this planet
was created, we were all created to support each other, and that's why
we are all connected. So basically from what they've shown me, is that
our planet, in all the trees and all these things, all these things,
the interdimensionals and all these other beings in space, have been waiting for
human beings to wake up, wake up and realize our uniqueness, realize that
we have things in our DNA that are yet to be activated because of the
toxins and all these things that we had all our lives and our pineal glands
are clarystallized, and that is what would make us have telepathic or insight intuitions,
all these things. But all these things have been going on for eonons.
This is not just our generation. It has been going on for a
very long time, you know. And that's the beautiful part. Certain things
like our banking systems are breaking down, certain religions are starting to break down,
and there's nothing wrong with these things, and they were not wrong,
and they served a purpose and was a wonderful function at the time. But
our world is changing. We are changing, We are evolving, evolutionary change
in higher consciousness and some of these things will no longer serve us. So
with our intelligence and with their assistance, they want to help us. They
don't want to come down here in control, they don't want to take over.
They're simply here to assist us and watch us turn into the beautiful human
beings that we were supposed to be from the beginning. So what you're saying
is that our planet is important. I mean when you look at when you
look at the vastest of the universe, you think that our planet is just
like a specta dust in the size of the universe. So they see our
plans, living conscious, breathing being. She is I call her. She.
She's beautiful. She's beautiful. And they played a part and saw the
creation of her, and they saw all these things come together. But we,
because of our lower consciousness, we have been manipulated all this time and
stared in the wrong directions. But now we're at that level. Hey,
you know, and scientists are already putting out information about trees communicate to each
other, Plants communicate to each other. I just did some articles in my
group and that's where they've proven. Now insects are living, conscious beings.
People. We assume that humans think that we are it and everything's about us.
But we're just a small part of what's beautiful about this planet. Our
whole planet and everything on it is beautiful and they love all of it.
So when we start playing with nuclear weapons, not only could it wipe us
out, it would disrupt the balance of nature, It would disrupt Mother Earth,
it would ripple out into the universe and affect all extraterrestrials and inter dimensionals
and other planets. Because we are all connected, and we are all one.
And you've heard people say as above so below. It's true. Everything
we do effects are world and everything above it. You know, you say
about being taken to ships, can you can you tell us anything not some
bolts about these ships? What they look like on You said, there's several
different species of alien on there. Yes, have you any idea of how
many Adians are actually visiting this planet? Oh, there's so many. I
hadn't even seen them all, but I've seen a lot. But I do
know that when the female Gray, she's a female gray, and I've been
bonded with her since birth, and she's always the same, three always come
for me, but she is the one that I'm bonded with. And she
is a hybrid, and she was designed by the Tall Grays in the Inner
Dimensionals and basically her job, her function uh for them, is too she
does the legwork, she does the back and forth from Earth. So she's
a manufactured bee. She's a hybrid. She's not robotic, she's biological.
But they did create her, and they twiked her DNA interdimensionals and extraterrestrials can
deal with the density of Earth, but they don't. It's really not compatible
and they really don't like it. So they created her. That's hybrid.
They did their leg work and she can do it, sleep back and forth.
So so anyway, but anyway, when she was running the scanner up
and down, up and down, they explained to me that being on Earth,
we're in a three D world, we're at a very low frequency.
So they were changing my frequency to match their frequency. And that is how
I was able to go through. That's what this object does. It was
vibrating. I was. It was like a vibrational frequency, and it was
raising my frequency and that would start to lift and then they would hold my
hand and then we would go to craft. And so when you when you're
headed to Craft, you see the craft and it would look like half the
size of an American football field, So that would probably be half the size
of a football or rugby field on your side of the planet. So but
when you get there and you step in, it's like this humongous everything changes.
It's it's not what you saw on the outside. It is among us.
You say, I talk to Who TV series when it goes into the
sophone box. Yeah, I love that show. That was amazing. But
I don't know if it's like you're walking into a different dimension or if they
just make it look because of them knowing that we're in a three D world.
They make things so that we can have an understanding of what we're seeing.
So we see it as they think we need to perceive it. But
then when you get in, you realize, oh, you said a lot.
Maybe it's like walking through a portol. Maybe the ship is up.
Yeah, and as you go through the door is talking out of the into
pulsil. It's another world basically. So when I'm in Craft, everything is
very bright and you look around it is so bright, but it's a comforting
bright. It's not too bright, not too low. It's just perfect.
And if you look around and you try to find the source of the light,
you will never find it. You will never find it. I've looked
that, you will never find it. It is just perfect. And everything
is very sterile. Everything is very light. To me, everything appeared very
white on the outside, the craft was metallic, the silver looking, but
when you go on the inside, to me, it was very sterile,
very plain, plain, sterile and very bright. Yeah, so you are
still you within this craft. You don't change into a lot of spiritual being
or something. No, No, it's really it's like I said, it
took me a long time to understand this stuff. And you know, it's
really unusual because sometimes I'll just all of a sudden, it's like I don't
know what happens. But I'll be standing with her and we'll be holding hands
and I have such a feeling of love. It's incredible, and I know
she loves me. It's really strange, and we just kind of like run
fingers through each other and she lets me touch because I like to. I
don't know, I just like to. She feels like a dolphin and I
just you know, I like to touch her face and she does not mind.
She she you know, she she likes it and and I feel so
much love. It's unreal. The I don't know how to explain it for
me, it's never been What they look like for me is the frequency exchange.
When I know before they get here that they're coming, I feel it
all over. I feel it from my head to my toes. I have
It's like my body starts having having a frequency change, and then when I'm
with them, it's wow. I don't even know what you could. The
closest thing I could compare it to is like very warm and for it beautiful,
for it here, it's incredible. But you know, your brain does
not know. These are not feelings that we normally have, and so your
brain I have to like condition myself and sometimes, like when I start feeling
that fear, I have to stop myself and go, WHOA you can do
You've done this before. You know this is not fear. This is love?
This is is it like big whole ways of heavens seeing? Maybe?
Well, is it the same place as we go when we die? No?
Because the reason I say that is because I know that extraterrestrials and inter
dimensionals all have souls, okay, and they all believe in a creator's source,
and creator source is over everything, all universes, all galaxies, and
it is infinite out there. It is infinite. And from what my understanding
is that humans are energy beings. We are here on free will. We
all have souls, and when our body this is a temporary experience being a
human, and when we die, our soul and our consciousness goes up to
before, like say the group of Elders or Creator Source, and decisions are
made between you and whatever soul. Contracts are the agreements that you have made
as to whether you come back and experience Earth again, or if you've experienced
all you wanted to get from this experience here on Earth, then you will
choose to either you can choose to be either an extraterrestrial or a dolphin or
a different type being. And at some point if you get to where you
just think, well I've experience all that I want to try, at some
point you can just stay in a very non physical being up at the highest
frequency or the highest dimension. And of course you know what we call is
the twelfth dimension. I don't think that we really know everything. There's no
telling how high up it goes. But I know that if you make that
decision, then you're up there and you can stay there for as long as
you want. And we are immortal. You know, this is a very
short experience compared to any other beings in the universe. And I also know
that I have family there waiting on me. You know, this is something
that my children and my children have experiences just like I do, especially my
oldest son, and he's had a Condolini awakening as well, so he's fully
aware of what sky gonna ight you all, yeah, yeah, and he
goes with what they They sent us to Mexico back in September. They wanted
us to meet an indigenous tribe and they wanted us to experience. For example,
they took me into the forest and they showed me all trees talking to
each other. They showed me plants talking to each other, and they showed
me a tree that was laughing at me. And I'm like, why is
the tree laughing at me? He goes, because the tree. Some trees
provide you food like apples, pecans, whatever, They provides you, the
air you breathe, they provides you the wood that used to protect yourselves and
yet you went around chopping them down, burning them. You know, you
have no appreciation of them. And the tree was standing there laughing at me
because of my ignorance. And so when they told me that they're very the
whole planet Earth and everything, every creature on it is very excited that we
are cracking out of our shelves and we will understand our connections with everything on
this planet, and that we all are living, conscious beings and we're all
connected, and we can all work together and harmony and oneness and unity and
have much better human lives and we can live longer, happier lives, and
we can learn. And another thing, when they sent me to Mexico,
they wanted to understand about AI technology, and they were explaining to me that
AI technology is a man made tool. We created it, it's made by
man, and they said, keep it as a man made tool. H
We have read we are reaching higher consciousness, use our intelligence, stay in
control over it. Make sure that all of humanity gets the benefits from it,
not these elites that just sit on it and use it for their benefits
and not for all of humanity. But once we reach our consciousness and wake
up and take control of our world and our lives. We can use the
ny show me visions of how AI technology. It will not be taken away
jobs. It will be enhancing our lives, creating different jobs for us and
giving us the opportunity to have jobs that we love. And it will not
be considered a job. It will be considered a service to yourself and a
service to your community. It will not be working jobs that you hate and
just work you to death. Feel that the so called elite that so called
run this planet are controlled by a more evil type of entity, no,
I think, or are they also in the same Let's put it this way.
I know that there's certain every race. There's many different races of every
race. So grays, there's over sixty three different races, types and different
heights, different colors, different agendas, different task or jobs. And then
the Reptilians, there's many different races. I've only met positive reptilians. I
have met reptilians and they I've only met the positive ones. And they are
the ones that are on this craft with many, many different races, and
these races are all on a mothership and they're here and they've been waiting for
this for disclosure for a very very long time, and and I incarnated here.
And there's probably a million others like me that have not. Either they
have not they haven't come to grips with who they are, or they are
scared whatever reason. I'm not the only one. There's nothing special about me.
There's many many others like me, and another thing too. And from
what they've told me, we are all here by free will. Humans are
here on free will. So all of us made a choice to be here
at this time, in this place, for this event. So here's what
I say. We humanity, we are the disclosure. We do not need
governments to tell us anything. As we reach higher levels of consciousness, we
will realize and we will know all these answers and questions, and we will
understand. We won't even need any approval or okay by the government. We
won't know ourselves. And that's what that's why they are reaching out to humanity.
We are huge. Government officials are temporary. Humanity stays the same,
and it's always large in number, and that is what they are. They're
reaching out to humanity because we are family, we are one, we are
all connected, and they want us to have better lives. The reason I
also is that some people have a theory that we're controlled by more darker forces
working in the background, and I have heard the descriptions of reptilians actually controlling
some being ceo who run everything. I mean, what's what's your opinion of
that? Well, I don't know everything, and I don't pretend to.
I know that there's a lot of misinformation, and that's another reason why I'm
here is to help you people to understand that whatever has happened in our past,
you know, wasn't necessarily right or wrong, but it happened, and
maybe we needed these things to happen to get us to where we are today,
to get us to wake up and become the better human beings. And
it's the decisions that we make now. So I don't believe everything that I've
read or that's been said, because I know how much. Just as hard
as I have worked, and others that have worked harder than me to get
disclosure, there's those that have worked three times as hard to make it not
happen, and they had the money to be able to put these lives in
fear. So you have to understand keeping humanity separated, what is the best
thing you can do lies fear, you know, keep putting divisions in there,
yes, and keeping us divided, you know, because once we come
together as one, there's no stopping us. I think over the last four
years or so, probably longer, but it seems to really work, really
kicks off over the last four years, four or five years, I think
with all the divisions of sex and gender and color and race and everything else,
and a religion of course has always been that way. I think it
happens on purpose. It's to keep us in fear, to keep us questioning
and untrustful, and you know so, and we do have to be careful
about you know, like if say, if extraterrestrials land here, which they
will not land on the White House, I promise you that it will not
happen that way. But if they were to be you know, if they
if it happens, I would want to make sure it was the right ones.
You know what I'm saying, Because there's a there's just as hard as
we want all this good and wonderful things and for humanity to ascend and reach
higher consciousness and become wonderful human beings, there are the powers that be that
do not want this to happen, and there's no telling what thing. Oh
you've heard about Project Loubing, you know, I don't know. You know,
we need to be careful, you know, we need to use our
intelligence and question everything. I mean, question me, you know. I
mean that's why the show well, I feel considered about what I'm saying.
I'm not. But I'm not going to tell anybody that I know everything because
I don't. You know, I can only speak about my experiences. I
expect people to use their intelligence and research and check everything, you know,
that's the only smart thing to do. I have to say. Much of
what you said, I've actually heard from different people. The other people that
I've heard other people say they're crazy and everything. But what you're what you've
said is very much. And I'm not saying you're crazy for in any sense
that you know, don't get don't sort of mind to save you that way.
But I'm all I'm saying is I've heard much of what you've said from
other people. You did describe it. You've got three grades that come to
see you if you really mentioned just the one of the other two, like
just don't interact. They're always there. They always travel in three body.
They might be bodyguards for the other one or something. I think, so
I do just to look after them company or yes, humans are when when
humans are afraid, they it's that flight or five. You know, it's
embredded in our DNA. And when you have these feelings and you have the
spirit, you know, and they're they're not going to sit there and struggle
with anyone. They'll simply tap you out. So most of what people remember
is the fear part of it, and then everything past that they concoct in
their heads. Well, to me, to be honest, that puts a
little bit of realism to be on it. The fact that these two don't
really have a purpose. Well if they're sort of there as a company for
the main one that comes to see you, right, and they're telepathic,
okay, so whatever I feel, and they don't have the emotions that human
beings have. We're the most emotional beings and the whole galaxy, universe,
et et cetera. Really well, you're very or very unique. So they
feel everything I feel, only they feel it tenfold the whatever I feel,
they feel it ten times the amount they are not used to these feelings.
They do not know what to do with them. They don't like it.
And that's why they tap us out, is because they don't like feeling like
that. And so that's why, you know, I have my conscious memories.
And then when I would got to junior high and started putting the world
around me, put these thoughts in my mind, and I became fearful.
Then tap me out. And you'll hear people like they talk about missing time
or they talk about that those are the what's that's what's happening. They're tapping
them out because most of the time they're doing a overall exam to check our
consciousness level, our spiritual level, things like that. It's really no different
than what our scientists or biologists go out into the Amazon and tag animals and
check or you know, they'll go back and check the migration cycle of a
bird or something that it's really no different than And they did the ones that
did this, the one race of grays that did the abductions that people talk
about, and it was real. I'm sure, I know it's real that
in their eyes, they did not do anything wrong because it was no different
than what we were doing to our own animals. And they were doing genetic
research. So, and a lot of people as they get older and we
become more spiritual and become more conscious, we realized that a lot of times
of what we thought was a very scary event, we later realized it was
a schriitual evolutionary type thing. You know. And if you, I don't
know, if you've ever talked to Travis Walton, Yeah, remember a couple
of somesh Okay, Well, he's a prime example of when it first happened,
he thought it was horrible. You know, it was horrible. Now
you talk to him, his story is it's completely different. He says,
I was at the wrong place at the wrong time. They didn't go looking
for him. He walked up on them, and he had radiation poisoning or
whatever poisoning, And if they had left him, he would have died.
He would have died. But that's what I understand, that she saved his
lessons, and they took him and brought him back to Hell, and then
they took him back to an area where people would find him, not back
to where they got him. Because the group of men he is with bran
Offen left him. He would have just been up here in Dad. So
they saved his life, so, you know, but his perception changed as
he got older and had a better understanding. Yeah, and even Whitley Strivery,
you know, his story has changed as he's gotten older and he sees
it more as enlightened. Enlightenment. It was a threateney story to begin with
us. And oh yeah, yeah it was. Someone was firing this guy,
you know, they both were. And it's sad because you know,
that instills a lot of fear in people. But those things were not real.
That's not what really happened, you know. But unfortunately, that's what
I have to deal with now is trying to make sure people understand that there
is no such thing as that ain't a probe. You know, some people
believed to know that, but yeah, there are billions of years ahead of
us in evolution and evolution and there is no humanizing anything about them. And
it's just like people say, what are their names? When you're when you're
with a telepathic beings, humans pick names, address each other by names.
In a telepathic community, your frequency is your signature. There there is no
name. We don't ee. They don't exchange we don't exchange names. The
only time they say my name is if they want to meet a wake up
and they have a conversation with it with me if I'm in the bed or
you know, something like that. But as far as when we're having communication
on craft or even with the grays as she's getting me ready to go,
we don't, you know, I don't have to explain it everything. A
person has their own signature frequency that is their name more or less. They
don't use like you know, you hear people come back saying I talked to
do or I talked to their names. Yeah, that's that's humanizing names.
And there is no humanizing this kind of thing. That's something I've not heard
before about, no such things as names. But I mean, we're all
giving labels on this planet, aren't we. And it's just like the names
of the beings are not the names that they use. And people say,
where are they from? Well, the interdimensionals are dimensionals, so we cannot
see that on a man, we cannot visibly see these things. And there
is no English or human word for where they come from. So they all
come originated from planets, but now a lot of them live on motherships.
They spend all of their lives on motherships and they transverse through different galaxies and
all universes looking for beings like us that are reaching higher a wellness and helping
them to become part of the cosmic rem And that's where they want to lead
us, is to be part of the cosmic rim, be part of the
you know, because from what I've seen, the visions and what they showed
me, our solar system alone is teeming with life. Our skies is teeming
with wrath. We just can't see it with our eyes. They are not
hiding from us, We just simply cannot see it. But as we reach
higher consciousness and our awareness increases, we will start to see things. And
it's just like there is life going on all around us. We can't see
it, but it's happening. There could be a craft part right here in
the room with me. They could be walking around. If they want me
to see it, they can move things around or whatever, or they can
stay invisible. So we are reaching a higher dimension. And dimensions are not
physical places, Okay, these are higher levels of consciousness. So as we
increase our consciousness, we will start to see more things. It will be
so gradual, it won't be like night and day it will be so gradual
it will seem like it's always been that way. That's why. That's the
beauty of evolution, the beauty of creation, the beauty of it all is
designed to make it to where everyone can can do it and adapt, and
and then that it being a scared Yeah, yeah, no, I'll take
all that eating. When I'm trying to connect this with when people see UFOs,
for instance, what are they actually seeing? Are they seeing them?
They're saying they're seeing craft. I can see craft. But because I can
see it doesn't mean it's not And you can't see it doesn't mean I did
not see it. It just means that you are at a different level of
consciousness or you're blocking it. You're you're blocking it. We put a lot
of blocks, We can block a lot of things, and we have to
What I do is I ask my subconscious to meditate to myself, and I
ask my subconscious to open up into my human consciousness, and I tell my
subconscious, you don't have to hide things for me anymore. I can I
can handle it. Open up and let me understand my world around me,
who I am, my purpose here on earth, who I was before you
know. So basically all of us just need to look within, find our
inner soul self, the inner self that chose to come here and the purpose
that it came for. And we're all here on different spiritual paths. So
if we can figure that out and forget all the programming and realize that we've
been programming and look within and understand who we are and reach higher consciousness,
all of our questions will be answered for everybody. I think it's a question
I have got then, is I saw a UFO back in nineteen sixty seven
and it was a big over orange objects. Now was I meant to see
that? Absolutely? Because the strange thing is I actually felt that I was
supposed to see that that I'm telling you that. Yeah, And that feeling
you mentioned about love, I actually felt. I didn't feel any fear or
anything or just has a sudden awareness they actually do exist. Yeah, And
that sparked the interest in you. But a lot of times they do give
us messages, but we confuse the message with our own thoughts. So we
need and I have a hard time with this too, and I hope we
have time. I hope I don't run when for example, and you can
tell me what you think about this. But when I'm with the female Gray
and she comes in and she's telepathically talking to me, I hear what she's
saying to me, but it doesn't sound. It doesn't to my head,
it doesn't register is male or female. I just hear what. You know,
it's in my mind. I hear it, and there's no inflection,
and there's no male or female or anything like that. But I know she's
speaken to me. And then from her frequency exchange, I know she's female,
and I know I love her, and I know I love I've known
her for a very long time. When I get on Craft and I'm with
the interdimensional Tall Grades, et cetera, et cetera, when they speak to
me telepathically, I can I can sense male or female, and I can
sense inflection. And you know, it's really strange, and I have I've
asked this question, like how do they know? In other words, you
know, we if a person is psychic and they walk in a room,
TV has uh led us to believe that you would just hear everybody's thoughts.
It's really not like that. So when I go into Craft, they're all
telepathic, but they're all on the you know, on the same frequency,
so they're not all yacking at me at the same time. It's different.
It's not like what we are human version of it. In other words,
And when I'm speaking, I know who's speaking to me because it has a
signature. It's who it is. And it's not like what we see on
television, like who said that, who's doing? It's not like that.
It is not like that. And also their craft are living conscious beings.
So that's why we can't fly in at their craft. They are living conscious
beings. So their polots are it's they're genetically in their DNA when they are
are born and created it you know, however, whichever way they are chosen
to be created. So they their consciousness combines with crafts consciousness and the call
it thinks where he or she wants to go, and they go. And
here's another thing that And like I said, I don't know everything but what
they've expressed to me and told me or whatever. And I may have misunderstood
some of it. So but in their reality and our well listen, okay,
in our reality, technology is like this laptop that you and I are
looking through, right, it's separate from us correct in their reality. Their
consciousness is the technology, so it's implemented, it's actually it actually becomes part
of them. Yes, and they're not they're not a they are at a
higher consciousness and they're not technology. But there is no such thing as that.
I don't how to say, eve and see it's hard to even explain
because I think I'll do you know what you're saying. Years ago we used
to see whether you saw a picture of an Avia and it would have a
lock an area, like you said. So basically they were telling you even
back then that they have actually got a communications system built within them. Yeah,
it's just they're they're just at a very high level of consciousness billions of
years ahead of us that they don't have it. They look like some of
them look just like us, but they're they can their abilities and they're you
know, they through consciousness. That's the key. Consciousness, higher frequencies,
that's our key to our evolution and to get us moving on up. So
you would say that there are probably hundreds of ships circular I seen around the
planet. Yeah, well, but you can't see the probably a million,
wow, probably, But of course they are on a different vibration plans,
so we can't see them exactly. And there's different races. It's not just
one race, and it was not just when a race that created us.
We are a combination of a lot of races. So you know, there's
a lot of things in our old history and ancient aliens that a lot of
it I think is probably true. But there's a lot of timelines and dates,
and there wasn't just one race that that worked on our DNA. So,
I mean, when people say they've been abducted, do you think that
they're not really being adopted? They may well be on the same sort of
program as you are, sort of thing, Well, they're not in the
same program that I am. Because interdimensionalist dimensionals and positive extraterrestials will not interfere
with humanity unless a person is in direct lineage to them, which I incarnated.
I am part of their lineage, so with me, they can like
play with my DNA. If I have cancer or whatever, they could cure
it if they so desired, or for whatever reasons they may not be able
to. I don't know everything, but they do not. They do not.
They abide by the cosmic law of humans being here on free will,
and that is why they cannot come down here and cure all diseases, because
we are here on free will. We all made soul contracts, and some
people agreed to not They decide on how long they want to live. Some
people decide on what they want to experience. It could be good, it
could be bad, and they cannot interfere with those so contracts. The negative
races that came down and made the treaties or technology exchanges with certain governments,
they overstepped that boundary, and that's what made them be excommunicated from the positive
because when they overstepped the free will and they took random people, they were
necessarily indirect leanings. They were they were simply doing genetic research for their own
benefit. And that's usually every race of Grace. Each race they have a
pacific function or you could call it a job, or you could call it
an agenda. So all of those grades were genetic researchers. So and I've
met like other grades that I've met, like groups that were all explorers or
doctors or you know, they all have like different usually a race, they
all have a pacific function and they have high minds, which means they have
a collective consciousness, but when that race decided to come down here and interfere
with humanity, they are no longer part of that high mind of the collective
consciousness. Well yeah, well I guess on the the end of the yes,
is everything positive? Is everything going to be on this planet? And
everything's going to be We're going to win at the end, don't we?
Yes, Yes, you know there's it is going to happen. It is
happening. I see it getting better and better every day, and I think
basically we need to realize we don't need the government. We are. No,
I've not waking up the last few years. You're waking up, and
we are realizing and we have to learn to be better human beings, more
positive human beings. And the higher you get up in frequency, you no
longer have a desire for negative things. You will find yourself not watching those.
You will find yourself walking away from friends and family. It doesn't mean
you don't love them, It just means you don't want to be around negative
things. Sure, So that's part, that's part of the evolution. And
that's basically what what they told me and what happened with them, is that
yes, they used to have the same wars and all this kind of stuff
a long time ago, but as they evolved, they no longer had need
for these things. Well that's hope we never have a need for it one
day. Yeah, we just need a change. We've been manipulated. But
we're waking up, and I think it won't happen overnight, you know,
and sometimes we might just be the stepping stones to get it started for you
know, but we'll go down in history if nothing else, the race that
started waking up, and the race that started making changes for the betterment of
humanity and for our grandchildren's children, and creating a legacy that will make the
rest of humanity proud in my eyes, that's what they tell me. So
on that note, I think that's fantastic that see such and I hope everyone
in listening to this is going to feel more positive about what's going on in
this crazy plenty. I told you I like talking about this stuff. It's
been an absolute pleasure, and that's thank you so much for fling. And
as I say, as this show goes out, I shall be in Tuperlo,
So maybe I'll look you up and we'll maybe we're out a coffee or
something. Yeah, my son as well, lovely, it'd be fantastic.
I'll hold you to that. I'll give you I'll send you a message,
but I'll get over there and we'll figure something out. Okay. Well,
thanks Havings so much for finding a time. That's it's been a great pleasure
and I hope we'll do it again sometime. All right, thank you.
You take care of yourself. Thank you, thank you, thank you boy.
Thank you very much, Nancy. And as I said at the beginning
of the show, hopefully I would have met you by the time this show
is going out. If all goes to plan, that is okay. When
I'll get back. My next show is Monday the tenth of June, and
my guest for that show is Mark Anderson. And Mark we'll be talking about
aliens and artificial intelligence. So that's Monday tenth of June. Mark Anderson,
of course, has always if you've got to get in touch with me anytime.
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