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So the big idea that I wanted
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one Pentecost, and that this Pentecost
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moment, and Noah and Abraham and
Moses and the Apostles all participate in that

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day of Pentecost. But so did
the people at the Tower of Babel.

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Yeah, so did the people at
the Tower of Babel. And that if

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you participated it correctly, then it
will unify and also multiply. And if

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you don't give it your focus,
if you don't give it your attention correctly,

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then you're going to be divided and
you're going to be scattered. This

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is Jonathan Peshel, Welcome to the
Symbolic World. So hello everyone. I

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am back with Richard Rowland for Universal
History. This is the first episode we're

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recording after this saball Growth Summit,
if I remember right, that's right.

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Yeah. And so what we want
to do is go back into the Tower

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of Babbel story, because Richard had
some amazing reveals about that story and how

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it connects, you know, to
the to the Old Testament, I mean,

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how it connects to Pentecosts in crazy
ways. That that. Yeah,

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it just blew me away when I
found them out. So I think that

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we definitely need to go back into
that. So Richard, take us,

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take us away. Yeah, so
I'm going to kind of give away the

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farm. Now, there were some
things that I was teasing a little bit

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in the last Tower Babbel video that
we did, and I said, you've

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got to come to the summit to
get the rest of it, and of

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course lots of people couldn't come to
the summit. So the good news is,

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I'm gonna I'm going to basically kind
of give you guys what you know,

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what was missing because actually at the
summit, I still couldn't say everything

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that I wanted to say because because
uh, it just wasn't time and I

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was trying to be respectful of the
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because that's like the unforgivable sin as
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So so I'm going to talk a
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a little bit of repeat, because
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just just frame things up a little
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of a repeat here. But we
can we can go. But that'll that'll

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be all right. So we talked
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and the Book of Jubilees is really
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it doesn't matter if the Book of
Jubilees is not in your Bible. It

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doesn't even matter if at some point
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maybe banned in your church sometime a
long time ago. There are a lot

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of things, well that did I
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know what happened with Enoch in the
in the West. But but the Book

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of Jubilees just has a lot of
inform that you probably take for granted as

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a Christian. That's but it's actually
stuff that's not explicitly in the scriptures.

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If you've ever had the idea that
the devil and other demonic spirits are fallen

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angels, the idea that the sons
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or the idea that the sons of
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set actually both of those ideas come
from this whole body of literature that includes

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Jubilees. Even the idea that righteous
people go to a place called heaven or

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paradise, and wicked people go to
a place called hell, and that there

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are rewards and punishments that are proportional
to your righteousness or your wickedness. These

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are things that are not explicit in
the Old in the Old Testament, unless

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you have Third Esdras in your Old
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in which case than your your gold. But anyway, yeah, so so

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some of us, I love say, some of us, like, who

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is the US that has It's just
the Russian Orthodox Church. Really, I

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didn't even know that. If you're
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tradition, then you can make the
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old Testaments. Well luckily we are, so we are. That's right,

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third address, but one is getting
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that is yeah, third esdres As. I mentioned in yesterday in the

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retrospective that we did for the summit. Somebody asked a really fun question about

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apocrypha in the retrospective, and I
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book, although actually it's in my
Old Testament, is third Esdras, and

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it's actually one of the important foundational
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I think is something most people don't
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of thing we'll be doing, we'll
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Comedy. It'll be five weeks.
It'll be just on the Inferno, and

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then we'll come back in a few
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And it's starting Orthodox Bright week.
So that's the week of I'm just going

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to go ahead and tell people because
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class. It's going to be the
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Thursday the ninth May the ninth,
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class will be. So anyway,
okay, So all of these things that

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people assume to be true about the
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from Jubilees and from these other works
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so with that kind of being sad, I want to look at specifically the

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idea of feasting and sacrifice in the
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of the main themes of the Book
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Testament liturgical calendar, that is,
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That the way the Book of Jubilees
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been celebrated in heaven since the creation
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things like the observance of the Sabbath
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Mosaic Covenant. Now, obviously you
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the Genesis story, right, but
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a commentary, a really like an
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lesser Genesis for that reason. And
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further, and it says that along
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the Great Feast of the Mosaic Covenant, which which importantly Genesis predates the giving

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of the Mosaic Covenant. Right,
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actually predate the Covenant. Now,
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way, for Christians, Well,
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like even if you're not part of
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these feasts. More on that in
a minute. And the reason that their

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ontological realities is because they basically they
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are kind of baked into the world
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days of rest and feasting like the
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Fruits, tabernacles, the hidden significance
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Posco or Passover, which is the
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in Jubilees. Wait, so in
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day idea, because I know it's
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that that in rabbinical commentary there are
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we will no longer celebrate on the
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And I was like, what that's
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this this happens in Jacob's visions that
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the death of Rachel in Jubilee.
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that that that is in there.
Wow, that's in there. Yeah.

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So all of this stuff is kind
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we're going to talk about in a
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formation of the Christian liturgical year.
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pertin disipating in these things, it's
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that is bounded by time to eternal
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you could say, somebody might say, so that God's will is done

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on earth as it is in heaven. Right, someone might say someone might

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say that so much of this reflects
and the community community that wrote the Book

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of Jubilees, or that at least
copied and preserved it was a community that's

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very concerned with calendars, the festal
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Father Stephen Dejung has a great book
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Apocrypha, and he's got you know, if you want to get the historical

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background who wrote these things and who
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all these texts were preserved almost exclusively
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still have them. So other than
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first feast to be instituted in Jubilees
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and this is known variously in the
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which is the feast of weeks.
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and also simply called Pentecost, although
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Pentecost refers to the fact that it's
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which hasn't actually been instituted yet,
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Passover in the in the narrative in
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probably call it Pentecost mostly or the
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shouldn't be surprised to find that this
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Jubilees. And this is because the
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of the First Fruits. So when
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the Law from God that is happening
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Pentecost is, you could say,
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the giving of the Law of God, which is actually a revelation of who

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God is. And then the making
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or the making or the renewal of
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that's what Pentecost is. That's the
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of the shape of the feast in
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So Jubilees has a frame narrative,
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of the presence, who is Jesus. By the way, we know this

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because Jesus quotes himself in Jubilees,
in the in the Gospel according to Saint

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Matthew, and by the way,
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Saint Stephen in his in his his
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right St. Stephen, the proto
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in Genesis that aren't in Genesis,
but they're in Jubilees. Wow, So

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he's either quoting from Jubilees, or
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Right, So the frame narrative is
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the law to Moses, which is
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so therefore Pentecost is the most important
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even more important than Pasca, which
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So what we're told is that the
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of first fruits, happens in the
aftermath of the Great flood when Noah offers

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up his offering to the Lord.
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know the story in Genesis, Noah's
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a covenant with Noah. And the
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anyway, one of the things that
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also when he made the covenant,
he also gave certain laws what it's usually

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called like the Noah Kayde laws donat
the meat, yes, and actually certain

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laws that don't affect certain laws that
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of the things that happens is God
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That's why animals run away from you
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and things like that. Like,
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the state of what creation is right
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and of this covenant. Yeah,
many people like By the way, even

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today, Jews understand that that law
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because it is the standard by which
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all the non Jews are not judged
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Noah's law. That's right, And
you still have this understanding in for instance,

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the very first church council, the
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of Acts, that's what they said. Basically, they take the Noahaide laws

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and they apply those to gentile converts
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church, you have to live by
these laws, but you don't have to

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keep the Torah. They explicitly,
I forget, they explicitly say which laws

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those are, and they're exactly the
laws that are. Yes, yes,

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Yeah, it's donty things strangled,
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because basically all of that stuff goes
along with idolatry. That's kind of the

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subtext there is that is that even
fornication in the ancient world, like there

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were just random prostitutes in towns in
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most prostitution in the ancient world is
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Right, So even fornication and things
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you're like committing adultery or something,
you would still say that there's like a

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god involved in that. It's like
arrows or something. So the things that

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were specifically supposed to abstain from,
as they understood in the Book of Acts,

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are things that have to do with
idolatry. And that's also a tradition

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that comes from Jubilee. So I'll
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the giving of the Noakhaide laws as
it is in the Book of Jubilees.

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We're told that humanity can need all
animals, which the implication, by the

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way is that's not something they were
doing before, but that they can never

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eat meat with the blood in it, so nothing strangled. And in Jubilees

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this is connected to specific instructions about
worship and sacrifice. Mankind should offer worship

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to God and seek his forgiveness each
morning and evening. So this is the

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establishment of the cycle of the morning
and evening offerings, the morning and evening

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sacrifice, which is something that we
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services of Matten's investments. And then
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the First Fruits each year. So
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we'll note something that's been sort of
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should not again be a flood on
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in the cloud for a sign of
the eternal covenant that there should be by

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the way, bou means like literally
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I super hate. All the people
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and that's to make you think of
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is a common explanation for the rainbow. It's like, well, nobody knew

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what that meant until we got in
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world and we aw that from the
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it's a wedding ring. And that's
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the covenant, and like whatever,
this is the thing you hear at Protestant

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weddings sometimes. By the way,
anyway, super annoys me. It's his

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bow, because it's his bow,
it's his weapon. It's the weapon with

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which he destroyed the world. Right, that's what a bow is. Anyway,

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this is very common, like ancient
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his bow in the cloud for a
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should not again be a flood on
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of the earth. For this reason
it is ordained and written on the heavenly

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tables. So that this idea of
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back to again and again, and
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or there's a heavenly law, and
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is that by the heavenly law and
the earthly law, like the tory

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that's given a Moses is like the
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the real one is this divine laws. So it's ordained written on the heavenly

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tables that they should celebrate the feast
of weeks in this month once a year,

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to renew the covenant every year.
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heaven from the day of creation until
the days of Noah twenty six jubilees and

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five weeks of the year. And
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jubilees and one week of years until
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the day of Noah's death his sons
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Abraham. This is an important detail, and they ate blood, and as

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we're going to see here in a
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worship. But Abraham observed it,
and Isaac and Jacob and his children observed

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it up to thy days, that
is Moses' days, and in thy days

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the children of is real forgot it
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So remember that The context here is
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And do thou command the children of
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generations, for a commandment unto them
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this month they shall celebrate the festival, for is the feast of weeks and

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the feast of first fruits. This
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According to what is written and engraven
concerning concerning it, celebrate it.

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So these laws are written or engraven
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and by keeping them, what God
promises. He goes on to promise Noah

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is that if you keep these laws, so don't eat things strangled, which

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is related to idolatry, worship God
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and keep the festival of Pentecost every
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then God promises that humanity will continue
to cohere, that they will be safe

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from the ravages of chaos, as
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really interesting reference here by the way, to the double nature of the feast.

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Damn that what are they referring to? Not everybody agrees on this.

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covenants, right after passing through the
flood and then after passing through the Red

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Sea, but it might also refer
to the fact that it has a heavenly

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and earthly nature. That the say
that every ancient agricultural society has a feast

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of first fruits, right, that's
just something that everybody has. But it's

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like a joining of that part of
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And by the way, this is
not a problem whenever somebody like looks at

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a Christian feast or a Jewish feast
and like, oh, this is just

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a leftover from some fertility religion or
whatever. Like God made the world and

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the cycle of the seasons is is
what it is? Like, Yeah,

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it's it's not. It's it's so
silly to think that that that the relationship

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between the natural cycle and heavenly realities
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Christian has ever really thought that.
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like we have had arguments and even
even sisms over calendars, and I know

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that the calendar thing is something that
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that's just stupid whatever, And I'm
not trying to start a calendar argument so

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that nobody, nobody come at me. You know, I'm on whatever calendar

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my bishop is on. But yeah, there you go, the idea that

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a calendar doesn't matter, that it's
arbitrary and not really important. It's not

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really a Christian idea. Yeah anyway, all right, so so so yeah,

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my question is too, like the
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I'm seeing with these, with the

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notion of Pentecost, is that it
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is about the man in which Heaven
and Earth touch each other, right,

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like this, that's exactly what it's
about. And so when heaven and Earth

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touch each other, then you and
it makes sense with the idea also first

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fruit, which is the idea that
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terms of agriculture as well, right, so you see the effect of the

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seed, the first effect of the
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world, and that would be the
equivalent of the law, because the law

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is is a fruit. It's not
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and earth, it's not the actual
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the fruit of that. And so
you can imagine the same with all the

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laws or all the manifestations of that
covenant. And so in that sense already

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you can kind of see that sometimes
you know some you know, when Jesus

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talks about how you know you the
wheats and the tears grow together. Yes,

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right there that there is also an
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fruits that can be maybe negative.
Anyways, all right, continue on and

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we'll see. No, that's good, that's good. That yes. So

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the Angel of the Presence then goes
on to give us certain details in Jubilees

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about the history of the feast after
Noah. Noah kept it and also the

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related laws of daily worship, not
eating meat with the blood in it,

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et cetera, and it's forgotten after
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scattering of the nations at Babbel Abraham. Abraham is then the first person to

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start keeping it again, and also
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We get actually accounts of when did Abraham

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keep cost For instance, we'll come
to that in a second, but their

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descendants also forget it, and that
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So if you don't keep the feast, then you're scattered or you go

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into captivity. And structurally this will
set up for set us up for the

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next episode in the Genesis material that
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Tower of Babel. So in between
the account of the aftermath of the flood

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and that of the Tower of Babel
in Jubilees, we get several important details

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which really help kind of fill in
the gaps of Genesis, which is the

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whole against the whole point of Jubilees, and and help us understand the tower's

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significance. So first we get the
account of Noah's drunkenness, which is also

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there in which is also there in
Genesis. Obviously. Now the account of

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Noah's drunkenness is very important to the
pattern of the feast of Pentecost. I'll

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talk about this maybe more in a
minute, but every time that Pentecost is

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celebrated in the scriptures, you'll have
somebody receives the law from God and they

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come down to the people, and
then there's some strange episode of drunkenness that

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happens for Noah. It's it's he
gets drunk, right, and then his

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son takes advantage in whatever whatever that
means. We want to well, well,

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there's there's there's a couple of things
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there's a strong case Father Steven de
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noticed the same thing too, like
there's a strong case to mean that there's

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a strong case to be made that
it means that he had incestuous relationship with

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his mother while Noah was drunk,
because that's what if you look at the

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phrase uncovering your father's nakedness everyone else
in the Old Testament, that's what it

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means. It means, and then
that makes that that makes canaan. Then

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this, you know, like a
product of incests, which explains why the

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curse comes on him instead of on
him anyway. Anyway, Yeah, we

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talk. We have a video about
that with father Stevens. So yes,

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I know, I know, I
know, I know. So yeah,

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I just yeah, people go back
and watch that if if you want to.

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But uh yeah, pleasant stuff.
So but another example, another example

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is of course the Apostles, right
when the apostles are at Pentecost there well,

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actually we'll talk about the Apostle in
a second. But another easy example

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is when Moses comes down, you
know, at Pentecost, right, he's

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received the law. He comes down
the mountain and there's for people. The

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people are, you know, engaging
in like a giant drunken orgy. Right,

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So there's this weird thing of like
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which I think is which I think
is interesting. So we have that

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and the Curse of Ham and then
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the earth among themselves by lots,
and this basically foreshadows the Table of Nations

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in Genesis, which is, as
we've talked about many times, is a

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vital passage to understanding the whole idea
of medieval universal history. So after this

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happens, Noah makes a kind of
a final testament in which he restates the

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Noahai laws and then shares his fears
or what is going to happen to his

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sons and their sons after his death, you know, as far as they're

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going to stop keeping the laws,
and that all of these things are going

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to happen. Of course, that's
what happens. And then what we're told

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is that unclean spirits, so demons
and the offspring of demons led by a

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mastema who is also Satan or the
devil like He's got kind of different names

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throughout Jubilees, but they're used interchangeably. They torment humanity and they start to

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lead humans astray after the flood,
and so this this sets up another very

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important idea in the New Testament is
that on the prayers of Noah, these

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demons are imprisoned in the underworld,
all of them except for one tenth,

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who are allowed to continue to roam
the earth and test mankind. This is

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an idea which Saint Peter will refer
to when he talks about uh talks about

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the ones chained in Tartarus. Right, this is the one. This is

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like the whole idea when when uh, you know, Jesus you know comes

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to the demons that are inhabiting Yeah, you know them before our time.

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end of is the day of the Lord,

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right, which they think is the
end of the world, But the

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Day of the Lord is actually that's
when God comes to you, right,

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So, so I mean that's the
subtext there is it actually is their time.

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But yeah, so anyway, all
of this once again see father Stephen

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de Young's published works. But so
they're allowed to continue to run the earth

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in test mankind and including by afflicting
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we are told that Noah is then
given a series of books, and he's

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actually given them according to a related
tradition, he's given them by the archangel

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Raphael, who's the sort of the
patron angel of like healing. That's he's

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given a series of books with the
knowledge of the medicines and seductions of the

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demons and how to combat them,
interestingly with herbs from the earth. This

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is such an interesting idea to me
because it's like you can already see the

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idea of the garments of skin or
like the old word for this is pharmicon,

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right, the thing that like it's
death, but also you can use

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it to ward off death. Right, That's what is where we get our

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word pharmaceutical from. It's also interesting
to think that in some ways it's it's

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the redemption of the you know,
of the of the Book of Enoch,

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story because in some ways those things
were revealed to humans by the demons,

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and so the archangel Gabriel has to
in some ways reveal them with their solution,

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you know. And so it's like
it's the it's this completion of the

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pattern of how civilization and and this
is also makes sense because that's what Noah

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is and that's where that's who Noah
is. Noah is the one who takes

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techne, who takes these revelations from
this the sons of God that became civilization,

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became technology and weapons, and he
makes the arc out of it,

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you know. And that's why Noah
is often said to be married to Tubulcane's

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sister, because he integrates, he's
able to use this aspect of the world

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kind of turn it. And so
the idea that you believe that Gabriel would

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reveal Raphael, but yes, right, sorry, sorry, that Raphael would

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reveal this again to no uh,
you know, the more pharmacon aspect of

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it, which was part of the
the the Enoch tradition, it makes a

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lot of sense. Well. And
and the fun thing is that Raphael does

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this again in Tobit, right,
So so the book of Tobit which is

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actually is in your Old Testament.
For the majority of Christians that that have

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lived, you won't have it if
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be an apocrypha. But but most
most Christians at most times have had the

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Book of Tobat in their Old Testament. And uh, Patristic commentaries on Tobit,

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by the way, are awesome,
very very fun. Uh the venerable

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bed An Anglo Saxon Anglo Saxon Monk
and and and and uh you know,

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writer theologian, et cetera. He
he's a wonderful commentary in Tobatt. But

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anyway, in the Book of Tobit, this is exactly what this is exactly

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what the uh, the archangel Raphael
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uh Tobit and and actually helps him, helps him overcome the wiles of the

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demons by doing things that Part of
the reason that Luthor didn't like Tobad is

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because he felt like it was too
magical, Like there's too many things,

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too many things that are like magic. Is like, oh, you're going

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to go catch a certain fish and
do the certain thing with it, and

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then you'll make some incense and the
incense will drug the demon away and things

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like this and that really like you
know, when they're trying to like purge

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all the superstition you know, from
the world or whatever, like Tobad has

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to go. But but but but
this is this is this is kind of

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like I mean, that's the thing
that Raphael does. That's what Raphael does.

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Like he's a healer, but he's
more than just a healer. He

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shows the basically shows the way the
demon works and then gives you a way

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to counteract it. So yeah,
so uh and then we're told that in

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the days of Peleg, the city, the Tower of Babel, or really

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the city of Babel is built,
and it's not simply a tower. It's

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a city and a tower. And
Father Stephen de Young I made a point

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about this at the summit. Father
Stephen de Young got onto me. It

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was like, well, obviously there's
a city around it. I will just

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continue to maintain that. Most people
don't always don't necessarily connect the tower with

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the city. Really, like,
well, when I was a kid,

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we knew there was some kind of
connection between Babyl and Babylon. Obviously they're

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the same thing, but we knew
there was some kind of connection between the

416
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two. But I think that I
was always told that the Tower of Babel

417
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,799
was built first, and then later
people came along to the ruins and it

418
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,200
built the city of Babylon or something
like this, something like this, But

419
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,599
the tower was always just like like
even go look at artistic depictions of it.

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00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,480
Sometimes it's shone with a city,
but most of the time it's shown

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alone, just like a big tower
standing out in a field or whatever,

422
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which which makes no sense if you
think about it for like three seconds.

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00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,240
But a surprising number of people,
myself included, grew up with like that

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00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:49,279
mental image, and so I think
it's worth mentioning. So we're told in

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Jubilee that it takes forty three years
to build. We get its dimension.

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00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,559
These are details we don't get in
Genesis, of course, and we're told

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00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:57,640
that it's, you know, again, not simply a tower. It's a

428
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city and a tower. The city
is in a square or rectangle, and

429
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:06,519
so the idea of the city being
a perfect squur so it's not a round

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00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:10,920
wall, it's a perfect square.
This is actually very important to understanding you

431
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,759
know, the apocalypse, right,
and the scent of the New Jerusalem,

432
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:22,680
and the Lord says, And in
Genesis the Lord says, now nothing will

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like nothing will be impossible for them, or something like that. But in

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00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:27,960
Jubiles it's like a little clearer.
It says the Lord says, now nothing

435
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,720
will escape them, which I think
communicates very well the totalizing nature of the

436
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,039
spirit of Babel. Right, and
then he confuses the tongues. So after

437
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,920
the confusion of the tongues, a
great wind comes and casts the tower down.

438
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,839
And the mention of the wind which
destroyed the tower references this very old

439
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,319
Jewish tradition, which by the way, is also found in the Sibiling Oracles

440
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:52,759
and also in Josephus and Josepha's account
of the fall of the Tower of Babel.

441
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,359
So this is something everybody in the
ancient world believed about the Tower babbel

442
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,279
Is that had been destroyed by a
great wind, although this it's not a

443
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:07,920
detail in Genesis. And this passage
is bracketed by two passages concerning master men

444
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,599
and the evil spirits, one of
which I mentioned just a moment ago.

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00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,799
And these passages make it very clear
that the context in which we are meant

446
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,440
to understand the building of the Tower
of babel is that of idolatry. So

447
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,279
it says the sons of Noah began
to war on each other, to take

448
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:23,599
captive and to slay each other,
and to shed the blood of men on

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00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,759
earth, and to eat blood,
and to build strong cities and walls and

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00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:32,880
towers, and individuals began to exalt
themselves above the nation. Boy, that's

451
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,759
not a fun thing that you think
about, and to found the beginnings of

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00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000
kingdoms, and to go to war
with people against people, and nation against

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00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,079
nation, and city against city,
and all began to do evil and to

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00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,079
acquire arms, and to teach their
son's war, and they begin to capture

455
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:49,079
cities and to sell male and female
slaves. And or the son of Cassad

456
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,279
built the city of Ur of the
kladies, and called this name after his

457
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:56,240
own name and the name of his
father. And they made for themselves molten

458
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,279
images, and they worshiped each idol
the molten image which they made for themselves.

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00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,640
And they began to make graven images
and unclean simulacra, which is not

460
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,440
I don't want to know what they
mean by that. And malignant spirits assisted

461
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:14,960
and seduced them into committing transgression and
uncleanness, and the Prince Mastima exerted himself

462
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,279
to do all of this, and
he sent forth other spirits, those which

463
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:21,079
were put under his hand, to
do all manner of wrong and sin,

464
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,519
and all manner of transgression, to
corrupt and destroy, and to shed blood

465
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:25,480
on the earth. And it goes
on. It's a really bad time.

466
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:30,039
So basically, so now I was
talking about the foundation of Er. Yeah,

467
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:34,519
so that so Ura is built after
Babel falls. Okay, yeah,

468
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,960
But basically the point of these two
episodes before and after the Tower of Babel

469
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,519
is to show that the idea of
building a city in a tower is connected

470
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:45,640
to the idea of idolatry, right, that that's what it's for. So

471
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:53,200
this general state of affairs continues until
Abraham, and Abraham is pious and as

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00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,559
the is the first man since the
death of Noah to reject idolatry and to

473
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,400
worship the One True God. This
is what we're told in Jubilees. So

474
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,599
as a result of his piety.
By the way, there are other traditions

475
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:07,160
that actually have Abraham like contemporary with
Nimrod, and like he's there at the

476
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,279
fall of the Tower of Babylon.
That stuff is really fun. But anyway,

477
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:15,720
that's not necessarily in Jubilees, the
timeline is like a little foggy.

478
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:21,240
Yeah. So as a result of
his piety and his efforts in defying the

479
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,160
work of Masdema, destroying his father's
idols, so on and so forth,

480
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,160
God sends an angel to open Abraham's
mouth and ears so that he can understand

481
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Hebrew. And Hebrew is the knowledge
which has been forgotten since the fall of

482
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,440
the Tower of Babel. It actually
says that the word, the language of

483
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:43,119
Hebrew has been lost since the fall. So if you're reading that in like

484
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,720
a post Augustinian context, you would
be like, oh, since since Abraham,

485
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:51,720
sorry says Adam, since Adam and
Eve like just that tower, But

486
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:53,799
it probably means the fall of the
tower. That's the most recent fall that's

487
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:58,640
been talked about, and that's where
you know confused, tongues are confused and

488
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,559
everything else, and that the fall
in Eden was not like before Augustine.

489
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,239
It's not the defining fall for everybody, certainly not for ancient Jews. There's

490
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:15,320
various ones. So he's given the
knowledge of Hebrew, and this allows him

491
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,599
to read the books of his father
Tera. Now we don't know exactly know

492
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,360
what these books are. They seem
to have been passed down from Noah,

493
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,800
so maybe these are the books that
Raphael gave him. But they recount the

494
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,000
true history and the nature of the
world up to that time. And it

495
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:32,039
is from these books that Abraham learns
the law of God. And all of

496
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,480
this is many generations before the same
law is going to be given again to

497
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,039
Moses on Sinai. So all this
culminates in Jubilee chapter fifteen, when Abraham

498
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,719
sacrifices at the feast of the First
Fruits and offers a sacrifice to God.

499
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,960
God accepts Abraham's sacrifice, and this
is the occasion of the first giving of

500
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:57,519
the Abrahamic Covenant. So this is
the next covenant that we meet in Genesis,

501
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,239
and everybody knows the story. Abraham
cuts the the animals in half and

502
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,840
then like God comes between them,
like a smoking lamp and a burning furnace

503
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,280
and all this stuff. But in
Jubilee that happens very explicitly at Pentecost.

504
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,280
So Noah celebrates Pentecost and God makes
a covenant with him. Abraham celebrates the

505
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,559
Pentecost and God makes a covenant with
him, and all of this is being

506
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:23,880
told to us when Moses is celebrating
Pentecost and God is making a covenant with

507
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,400
him. Is there is there in
Abraham? Is there a case of drunkenness

508
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,440
after that? Or so? I
was just wondering that I can there is

509
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:38,039
something and I can't remember what is
now? Hold on, what's the story

510
00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:43,440
right after the right after this?
Oh? So in in Jubilees it is

511
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:51,639
Sarah's laughter. Huh that comes after
the Yeah, and and and I think

512
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,119
this is sort of like to counteract
the drunkenness, right, it's the institution

513
00:35:54,199 --> 00:36:00,960
of circumcision. So that's right right
after that. Okay, so right after

514
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,599
the which first the laughter first,
Yeah, it's circumcision first. Oh.

515
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:08,719
The other fun detail that you get
in Jubilees. And this is something that

516
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,679
I think Father Doom Deong has talked
about, is we're told right after the

517
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:19,000
institution of circumcision that all of the
nations have been given to have been given

518
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000
to demons to rule, which it
self is a kind of disorder. It

519
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,119
says the laws for all the generations
forever, and there's no circumcision of the

520
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:28,840
days, and no omission of one
day out of the eight days for his

521
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,239
an eternal ordinance or dan didn' written
on the heavenly tables. Everyone that is

522
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,840
born, the flesh of whose forcekain
is not circumcised on the eighth day,

523
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,119
belong if not to the children of
the covenant which the Lord made with Abraham,

524
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,039
but to the children of the destruction. And it goes on. It

525
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:45,440
says, for the angels of the
Presence and all the angels sanctification have been

526
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,320
created from the day of their creation, and before the angels of the Presence

527
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,360
and Angel of sactification, he has
sanctified Israel. So actually Israel has been

528
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,519
set apart even before the angels were
made, so that they should be with

529
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:59,440
Him and with his holy angels.
And do thou command the children of Israel,

530
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,639
and let them have deserve the science
of this covenant for the generation as

531
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:05,119
an eternal ordinance, and they will
not be rooted out of the land,

532
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,760
for the command is ordained for a
covenant. So this is still the giving

533
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,840
of law. And there's a by
the way says for Ishmael and his sons

534
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,360
and the brothers, and his brothers
and Esau. The Lord did not cause

535
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,639
to approach him, and he chose
them, not because they were the children

536
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:21,840
of Abraham, because he knew them
and he chose Israel to be his people.

537
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,280
And then it goes on and yeah, we get Sarah's we get the

538
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:31,360
announcement of the prediction of the birth
of Isaac, and Sarah's laughter and the

539
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,679
angelic visitation like all of that stuff, and then the destruction of Sodom and

540
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,559
goodmore. It all comes right in
that sequence, which is the same sequence

541
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,920
you get in Genesis. I think, I think finding the drunken this parallel

542
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,519
here is maybe a little difficult.
It might be difficult, but yeah,

543
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,880
I'll think about that a little bit, but we have to think about it.

544
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:55,119
Symbolism. The laughter is a kind
of counter reaction to the revelation,

545
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,199
right, it's like this this this, this lack of control, that's the

546
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,880
you know, that's so give gives
Sarah a black by the way, people

547
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,320
like, you know, that's what
else would you do? Like I think

548
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,280
that, no, we often have
to put ourselves in position of these characters.

549
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,239
Like some of the reactions even that
God will punish, are completely reasonable,

550
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,199
like the arc falling over and someone
going to like to stop it.

551
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:21,280
It's like what would you do?
I would do that, you know,

552
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,920
Yeah, yeah, I think that's
like Sarah's uh, Sarah's laughter, like

553
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,559
is one of those things, like
it's not a haha, that was funny

554
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:30,880
laughter. It'd say what else do
you do but laugh? Like in the

555
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,599
face of somebody of God telling you
this when you're in your nineties, Like,

556
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:36,800
what else do you do? But
anyway, okay, so we'll think

557
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,199
about that a little bit more.
I think that there probably is something there.

558
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,880
I mean, like all the Sodom
and Gomora stuff happens right after that.

559
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,440
Yeah, so that's something that something
I got to think about. Now

560
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,480
at this point, I have to
confess to everybody that I bury the lead.

561
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,639
So this is the big secret.
I apologize for all the repeated material,

562
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:53,559
but I wanted to set this up. So this is the big secret

563
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:58,920
that we didn't share in the last
video. Here, I must once again

564
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,679
mention that the author of Jubilees is
hyper attentive, like obsessively attentive to calendars.

565
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,360
He always tells you the day or
at least the week in which significant

566
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,199
events are occurring, and if you
pay very close attention, you will find

567
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,599
that God descends to confuse the tongues
and scatter the nations from Shinar in the

568
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:24,440
fourth week, which is how Jubilees
usually introduces the feast of Pentecost. In

569
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:31,079
other words, for instance Jubiles chapter
fifteen, the context of Babel is thus

570
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:37,119
a bad It's it's a celebration of
Pentecost. That's what's happening at babylting when

571
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:43,400
the tower is destroyed, celebration of
Pentecost. They're celebrating Pentecost, but it

572
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,559
is a act of false celebration of
idolatrous worship. And the Lord descends what

573
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,480
happens at Pentecost. God descends like
Earth meets Heaven. Right. So God

574
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,159
descends as he did with Noah and
with Abraham, but this time it's not

575
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,320
to make a covenant or give God's
law, but it is rather to bring

576
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:07,599
confusion and scattering, which is the
promised consequence of idolatry. So Jubilees relates

577
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:12,800
to us this tradition, which contrasts
the worship and the giving of the covenant

578
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:19,760
to two righteous men Noah Abraham and
actually later Isaac also celebrates Jubilees Pentecost,

579
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:25,400
and Jubilees to idolatry and therefore confusion
and dispersion. It contrasts the generation of

580
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,800
babble against the people like the people
of God. And so these are we

581
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,920
could say, three different events in
linear history. But remember that Pentecost has

582
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,840
been celebrated in heaven since the world
was created. This is what we're told.

583
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,360
Well that means Pentecost is always been
celebrated in heaven, right, Like

584
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:53,039
it's always like it's a reality there
that our experience of linear time is connects

585
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:58,000
to through the act of celebration,
right, And this is this is a

586
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:04,960
really important way. I mean I
I the symbolism of feasts and celebration,

587
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,440
and I know it's Heaven meeting Earth. Like you can just say that or

588
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,199
what, But like if you really
think about, like what is happening when

589
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,920
you celebrate something, I feel like
that's the whole Like to me, that's

590
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,880
the whole enchilada. Like if you
could just understand like what's going on with

591
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,639
celebration, then you'd understand everything in
the Bible and also everything about the world.

592
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,320
Like it's I just like I get
stuck on it so much because it's

593
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:32,199
celebration. Is the act of celebration
is the way by which we connect to

594
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,559
higher or lower realities, right,
and it's it's really it's the way that

595
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:42,559
you know, you you gave this
great keynote at the summit talking about how

596
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:46,400
human attention right through the figure of
the Son of Man, right is the

597
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:52,519
thing by which the world orders itself. But celebration is the primary action that

598
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:57,360
gives attention. Like that's the primary
where you give something attention is by giving

599
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,320
it a celebration. So we need
really this is to me this this idea

600
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:07,320
that Pentecost and the idea of the
first fruits, and also the notion that

601
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:14,519
this has to do with multiplication,
Like that's actually what because you let's say

602
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,320
we look at Theophany for example,
like our celebration of Theophany, Theophany is

603
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,480
also a joining of heaven and earth, right, so the spirit comes down

604
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,800
on the waters, the earth is
gathered up together. You know, there's

605
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,639
definitely a relationship between the two.
But the idea that that Pentecost would be

606
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:36,000
related to the multiple multiplication, yeah, is makes a lot of sense.

607
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,559
It also makes a lot of sense
of this weird covenant that Abraham does.

608
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,800
It's the weirdest thing in the world. How why in the world, Like

609
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,280
I've never understood that why would you
cut things in half? Like why are

610
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,199
you cutting these bulls in half?
And then you're walking through the middle.

611
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,760
There's no good explanation for that outside
of this. By the way, people

612
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,119
will again like covenant theology is like
a big deal in like reform circles that

613
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,280
it came from, and people would
always be like, yeah, the word

614
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,159
covenant comes from the word cutting because
you have to like kill something to make

615
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,000
the covenant or you know, something
like this, but you have to kill

616
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,840
it and you have to split it
in half and then and then what God

617
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:17,519
reveals himselves like animal did it this
way? Yeah, but this makes a

618
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:21,519
lot of sense. It makes a
lot of sense of it in the sense

619
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:24,920
of, you know, first of
all, this idea that God manifests himself

620
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:30,320
emits the cutting like amidst the separation. Right, it makes sense of the

621
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,079
separation of the waters in the in
Genesis one. But then it also makes

622
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:39,239
sense of the idea that you know, if you think about how creation works,

623
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,400
there's two aspects of it. One
is unity, one is unifying,

624
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,519
and one is separating. That's how
the world works. In order for any

625
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:50,679
identity to exist, two aspects have
to be true. You have to separate

626
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,760
it from other things, and you
have to unify it to itself. And

627
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,280
so the idea, the idea of
that is what the logos does, or

628
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,480
that is what the influence of heaven
does, is that it unified and it

629
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:05,599
separates. And and what's interesting about
the Pentecost image is that it seems to

630
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:09,800
be God revealing himself in the separation
right in the multiplication. Right, So

631
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,480
it's like think about its first fruit. So you know, the seed comes

632
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,679
down, all these fruits appear,
and then God manifests itself in this multiplying.

633
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,079
But if but if it's not celebrated, then it's just separation. Yeah,

634
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,639
right, so if it's not if
if it's not celebrated properly, then

635
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:31,000
the influence of heaven becomes scattering.
It's like it it will it's the scattering

636
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:36,159
without the unifying. And you can
think about it like everything makes sense,

637
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,679
Like think about the judgment of God
too, you know, that's what that's

638
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:43,719
what happens when the you know,
the idea of the goats going away,

639
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,199
scattering away, or the idea of
the burning of the chaff, this idea

640
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:52,199
that in some ways you know when
heaven and earth, when God manifests himself.

641
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
That's what happens, unity and separation. But if it's not proper,

642
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,360
then it then it ends up being
and that ends up separating that unity and

643
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:07,280
diversity, those two things together is
that's that is the trinity, right and

644
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,079
and and and in this point,
I think that I can say non heretically

645
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,079
always like I'm nervous about speaking about
the trinity in public because you're gonna do

646
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:20,119
like an accidental heresy, but that
this is this is an essential aspect of

647
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:23,039
of divinity. This is what God
is, right, is these two things

648
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:29,239
together like unity, but really really
it's a community like community, right,

649
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,920
a communion of love. And that
this is an essential thing to the way

650
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,239
that God is. And and when
he reveals that aspect of himself, if

651
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,599
you don't celebrate it, or you
try to instead focus on yourself and celebrate

652
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:47,360
yourself, there's there's this sort of
self reflexivity to idolatry, I think.

653
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,360
And if you try to like sort
of celebrate yourself or focus on yourself,

654
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:58,800
even that that that chilling sentence people
put the exalted, the individual over the

655
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,440
nation, right, that even that
kind of an idea, Right, that's

656
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:06,079
then yeah, by the way Richard, I think. Okay, so it's

657
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,719
not Sarah's laughter, what is it. It's lots drunkenness. It has to

658
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,679
be so stupid, of course it
is. It has to be lots of

659
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:19,199
drunkenness, and his incest with his
daughters like this right down stream from I'm

660
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,039
very dumb. That is that's correct, that's that's right. Well I'm dumb

661
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,760
too, because it's so obvious,
and it's like it's always like just let

662
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,960
it run, Johnathan, run out
there. At some point it's like there,

663
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:30,239
of course, I mean, that's
and and what does that lead to?

664
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,480
That leads to the the even the
sort of the scattering of the of

665
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:37,840
the seed, because like lots of
a righteous man and he's part of you

666
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,119
know, but then it creates Moab
and it creates Ammon like these two like

667
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,440
long long term ancestral enemies of Israel. Right, it's creazy. Yeah,

668
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,360
okay, that's there we go,
right, so now we need so we

669
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,559
need to bring it. That's the
second that's also like the second incest connection

670
00:46:54,639 --> 00:47:00,440
with Pentecost too, if you take
that one interpretation of what Ham did.

671
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Yeah anyway, okay, super weird, all right, Yeah, So to

672
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:07,719
kind of like bring this down.
So the basic idea, I think we

673
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,599
talked a lot in our last video, and we're kind of running through our

674
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:14,039
time here, so I'm not gonna
restate all of this. But we talked

675
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:17,719
a lot in our last video about
the account of Pentecost in Acts chapter two

676
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,360
and paralleling it to these accounts of
Pentecosts and the Old Testament actually to the

677
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,519
Tower of Babble, which is something
in the Orthodox Church we literally have,

678
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,400
you know, hymns of old the
tongues were confounded because of the audacity and

679
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,800
the building of a tower, but
now the tongues are made wise for the

680
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,920
sake of the glory of divine knowledge. Right, And so even by the

681
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,119
way, like the way that all
of this interacts with language is also something.

682
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:45,719
And the the like connection and jubilees
of like language and law and those

683
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,880
two things together, like this is
something I'm still trying to think about.

684
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,519
But so so I mentioned last time
that there's this early tradition that you can

685
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:58,760
still find recorded in the writings of
many of like Oriental Orthodox communities, that

686
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,239
the day of Pentecost is the occasion
actually of the first Divine Liturgy. So

687
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:07,480
in the Divine Liturgy, we have
a part called the Epiclesis, which is

688
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,159
the calling down of the Holy Spirit
upon the gifts. In the Divine Liturgy

689
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:13,440
of Saint John Christism, for instance, we say, send down your Holy

690
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:20,880
Spirit upon us and upon these gifts
here set forth right. And so if

691
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,599
you think about it, like,
what are the apostles gathered together to do?

692
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:27,239
Well, they're all still basically pious
Jews, right. Christ always kept

693
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,960
Pentecost. We know this from the
gospels. So they're gathered together in the

694
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:35,760
Upper Room to celebrate Pentecost together.
So they're keeping this sort of ancient law

695
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,280
that's written on the tables of Heaven. And they're celebrating Pentecost together, and

696
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,800
they call down the Holy Spirit.
Of what happens, this wind descends on

697
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,679
them, and the wind unifies and
multiplies, but it also scatters. Remember

698
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,199
that there are people there who think
the apostles are drunk. Now, and

699
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,639
this is a weird thing, because
if you pay very close attention, you

700
00:48:55,679 --> 00:49:00,800
will find that the apostles are not. For instance, is not an example

701
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,639
of of glossalalia. They're not just
like babbling like you know, like Pentecostals

702
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,599
or something. I'm not trying to
throw anybody any shade. But that's not

703
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,480
what's happening in the Book of Acts. People here in their own language.

704
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:15,639
People hear them in their own language, but some people hear drunkenness. Yeah,

705
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,320
and that is a weird thing.
But it only makes sense if you

706
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,159
kind of have this understanding. Because
some people here drunkness white because they're not

707
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,119
keeping the feasts right. They're not
they don't have their attention oriented correctly.

708
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:30,679
So what they hear and they experience
it as drunkenness and scattering. They say,

709
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,840
these guys are drunk, what do
you what are you? Guys listening

710
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,079
like they're just babbling right, And
and in that sense, it's like a

711
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,639
funny almost like kind of a funny
pun on the whole Tower of Babel thing,

712
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,079
right, that word that means confusion
and has come in our in our

713
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:49,159
language now to mean a particular kind
of linguistic confusion. So the big idea

714
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,880
that I wanted to sort of pitch
is that there's only one Pentecost, and

715
00:49:55,039 --> 00:50:05,280
that this Pentecost happens at one point
in like an eternal moment, and Noah

716
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,400
and Abraham and Moses and the Apostles
all participate in that day of Pentecost,

717
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:15,400
but so did the people at the
Tower of Babel. Yeah, so did

718
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,559
the people at the Tower of Babel. And that if you participated it correctly,

719
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:24,159
then it will unify and also multiply. And if you don't give it

720
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,559
your focus, if you don't give
it your attention correctly, then you're going

721
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:34,119
to be divided and you're going to
be scattered. So we've been making these

722
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:38,599
Universal History videos for about a little
over two years now. I think we,

723
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,880
you know, by my last count, probably had like twenty three videos

724
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,360
in the series. Maybe this will
be number twenty four. They've been genuinely

725
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,119
generally popular, very well received.
I've gotten such an outpouring of appreciation from

726
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,840
people, which I'm very grateful for. But I do get some funny questions.

727
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,079
And sometimes these funny questions are just
people like missing the whole point of

728
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:02,239
a video. And sometimes it's people
like trying to educate me about their favorite

729
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,199
forms of like heterodoic esoterica, like
have you tried you know taro, or

730
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:12,760
have you tried like psychedelics or whatever. It's like no, no, no,

731
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,480
thank you. But one of the
most common questions that I get from

732
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,639
people like normal people. Is what
do you mean by universal history? Where

733
00:51:21,639 --> 00:51:28,079
the emphasis is on the second word, right, and the word history like

734
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:31,400
in its early sense from Greek,
means like inquiry or knowledge gained from inquiry,

735
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,280
and so we still preserve this in
the sense of terms like the natural

736
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,679
history, museicu and so forth.
By the time the word makes its way

737
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:45,960
into Old English via Latin, it's
picked up sense of being the account,

738
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,480
the description, the written account of
past events, a story or a narrative,

739
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,920
and by the twelfth century, when
it's being used in the Middle Ages,

740
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,639
it means something like the account of
events as relevant to a group of

741
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:00,960
people or people in general. So
the story of your people mattered because it

742
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,559
was your story, because participation in
that story makes you a part of your

743
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:12,639
people. And if you forget yourself, you cut yourself off from reality.

744
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:15,440
And this is what happens at the
Tower of Babel, is that people forget

745
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:20,119
Noah. They forget the laws that
were given to Noi, they forget the

746
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:22,039
covenant God. But they're really forgetting
themselves. They're forgetting what it means to

747
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:29,559
be human. And so taken in
this sense, universal history is a history

748
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:32,559
of everything at everyone it's a history
of who we are, how we got

749
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:37,039
to be where we are, and
how the laws and the customs and the

750
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:40,519
rituals and traditions of our people give
us meeting and allow us to continue to

751
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:45,679
cohere so that we could be long
in the land. And every work of

752
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,119
Jewish and Christian history, from the
first writings of the Books of Moses until

753
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:55,639
modern times has seen it necessary to
begin at Genesis, because Genesis has the

754
00:52:55,679 --> 00:53:00,280
answer to these questions. So the
Anglo Saxon Role, a work which is

755
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,679
mostly concerned with events in the eighth
and ninth centuries in England, begins with

756
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,639
the incarnation but also takes pains to
trace Alfred back to Noah. So later

757
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,599
on our nineteenth century German friends will
try to move history closer to the sciences

758
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:22,039
to make it a vision shot and
there was. As one of the fathers

759
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:27,360
of modern source based historiography put it, history should be concerned with what really

760
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:31,679
happened, but that this is only
knowable through what he called genuine and original

761
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,320
documents, and so this attitude towards
history. So what that meant was you

762
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,679
couldn't actually trust ancient historians like you
have to ignore them and you have to

763
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:45,920
go for like other things. And
this attitude towards history is it's not unlike

764
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,840
the obsession with, like the idea
of like the original articles in biblical textual

765
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,159
criticism, which has driven many people
away from the faith quite frankly since since

766
00:53:54,199 --> 00:54:00,360
we don't have any such articles.
So this is how this all released costs

767
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,880
taken in the medieval sense. Jubilees
is this work of history. This is

768
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,639
why I'm so interested in it.
We'll probably do more videos about it.

769
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:13,599
It's a work of universal history because
shows the way in which the basic patterns

770
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:19,599
of religious life, which are feasting
and fasting, Sabbaths and Holy days,

771
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,519
are the very shape of reality itself. That's the whole point of the Book

772
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:30,880
of Jubilees. And by conforming our
lives to these patterns, we exist and

773
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,880
cohere, we remember ourselves, and
we host angels. Like if I could

774
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,559
tell on myself a little bit,
when I was a Protestant, there was

775
00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:44,480
like one year and I was on
staff at the church, so I'm telling

776
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,199
on myself there was one year when
people just sort of forgot that Easter was

777
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,039
next week, and so it was
rolling around and we're like, oh,

778
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,360
crap, Easter's next week. We
didn't plan anything, and somebody said,

779
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,480
well, let's just push it out
a month, because there's no reason we

780
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:00,719
might have act. You've been on
old calendar Easter of that year. I

781
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,800
don't know, but they were like, well, let's just pushed out a

782
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,360
month. It doesn't really matter when
we celebrate it. Right, If you

783
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:14,840
live this way, your life and
your society, your culture will be scattered

784
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:21,679
and overtaken by a royaling chaos of
competing principalities, because all of these lower

785
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,840
principalities are basically fighting over a vacant
throne. And I think that we see

786
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,239
that the account of Pentecost and Acts
alone is enough to kind of convincingly show

787
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,639
versus the way that histories like Jubilees
are seen by the inksit Jews, by

788
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:37,800
the Apostles, by the early Church. And there are a lot of other

789
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,599
examples of that that I haven't mentioned. But when I first kind of conceived

790
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:45,719
of this talk, I was just
thinking, let's just do neat extra biblical

791
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,800
traditions about Genesis, like and I'll
just talk about that at the summit.

792
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:52,000
But as I started digging into Jubilees
more closely, and the more closely.

793
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:54,920
I looked at the traditions around the
Tower of Babbel. I realized that this

794
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,360
is really a perfect case study for
the whole idea of universal history. Right,

795
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,400
this is why we're doing this project. It's my deep belief that the

796
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,119
time of Scripture is the time of
our own lives. That we're not fundamentally

797
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:15,400
different people from the human beings who
first attempted to build Babylon the Great right.

798
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,039
So the question that I'm asked most
frequently by listeners is how do you

799
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,199
integrate all this universal history stuff into
your daily life? Like what should I

800
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:30,119
do? And the suggestions that people
sometimes come up with worry me a little.

801
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:32,880
Sometimes it seems like everybody's reflex is
to like make up some own little

802
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,159
rituals or practices to give their lives
meaning. And I just want to say,

803
00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:38,119
like, don't do that. That's
what I want to just tell people

804
00:56:38,199 --> 00:56:43,599
is don't try to roll your own
okay, Instead, start by doing what

805
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:46,440
God commanded Noah. According to the
Book of Jubilees, every human being that

806
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,480
has ever lived is commanded to pray
each morning and evening, together with your

807
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,559
family or with other people if you
can, if you need help figure out

808
00:56:55,559 --> 00:57:00,119
what to pray. I have suggestions. Keep yourself clean from idolatry, and

809
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:04,960
keep the feast of Pentecost, and
I mean really keep it. Be present

810
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:08,159
in church on the day of Pentecost, participate in the sacrifice of the people

811
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:14,639
of God. And of course a
Saint Peter ends his his great Pentecost sermon

812
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:17,719
repent and be baptized, Right,
that's how he ends it. Actually,

813
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,280
like I like, I like how
even Saint Peter ends with go to church.

814
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,360
So yeah, so that's but he
says, he says that when he

815
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,000
says repent and be baptized for the
giveness, forgiveness of sins, he says,

816
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:32,519
this promise is for you and for
your children. And this idea of

817
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:36,480
the promise being for you and for
your children. Even in there, there's

818
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,920
this idea that thing we're doing in
religion, in Christianity or really any other

819
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:45,239
religion for that matter, isn't just
like here's a nice individual choice that I

820
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,679
am making on behalf of myself,
but rather I am joining myself and also

821
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:54,360
the people who come after me to
a community, to a story. Right,

822
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,199
and therefore the promise and what's another
word for promise, Well, it's

823
00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:00,960
covenant, right, is for you
and for your children, and so Peter

824
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:05,199
is showing them the way. Here's
how Now, if you want to participate

825
00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:07,840
in the covenant, right, God's
law coming and being written as it was

826
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,760
prophesied in the Old Testament, not
on tables of stone, but on our

827
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,880
hearts, if you want to be
a part of that, you have to

828
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,000
join that covenant and and come in, you know, come in as a

829
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,559
family, into the family, so
to speak. So anyway, that's that's

830
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:27,679
just a some of that's rehashing some
of that stuff that I ran out of

831
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:30,920
time to stay the summit. So
but I think the big, the big

832
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:37,320
interesting review, at least for people
interested in the idea that Pentecost is the

833
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,480
anti babble, right. We hear
that at church, and when you see

834
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:44,239
the story in scripture, you can
see it. But it's very odd.

835
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,840
It's kind of you get a sense
of what it is. But then the

836
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:53,320
best way to understand it is that
Pentecost is really the full revelation of that

837
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:59,199
pattern because it has both, you
know, the unifying and the multiplying right

838
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:05,280
in extreme in an extreme way,
because the multiplying is an aspect of unifying

839
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,880
right, so as the people here
in their own tongue, as there's this

840
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:13,480
celebration of diversity right in the right
way, which is that the logos can

841
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:17,039
manifest themselves all the way into your
own culture. Which is what we keep

842
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:22,079
saying in terms of what universal history
is, is that all the true cultures,

843
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:29,320
all true stories, can be connected
to the universal ones, right to

844
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:34,840
the story of the Logos manifesting in
the world without completely losing its quality,

845
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,719
right, because that's also what Christianity
is. And so in the story of

846
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:43,599
Pentecosts, you really get in some
ways the full revelation of what universal history

847
00:59:43,719 --> 00:59:49,480
is. And you know this image
of this wind, sorry, the wind,

848
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:52,239
I mean it's the wind. The
same wind is the same wind.

849
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,199
The wind that knocks over the tower
is also the wind that feels the holy

850
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,039
that the apostle is the Holy Spirit, like in both cases, Like I

851
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,840
mean, I'm sorry, I I
interrupted you. But just like the idea

852
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,039
that of like God manifesting as wind, by the way, is something that

853
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:10,079
really bothers me, like in a
good way, but like it's like,

854
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,719
well, you know, it's so
funny because the people people, they're they're

855
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,559
so hung up, like as soon
as when you start to see it.

856
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,800
A good example, do you know, if you you know, during the

857
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:29,400
liturgy, if there are several priests
in the altar, they'll take the I

858
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,280
forget what the name of the cloth
is, right, and then they'll do

859
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,480
this over the yea yeah. And
so I remember a priest one saying,

860
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:40,679
oh, we have proof that maybe
this is just to chase away the flies,

861
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,239
and I'm like, really, to
chase away the flies? Well,

862
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,599
actually maybe it is to chase away
the flies, but that doesn't that doesn't

863
01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:52,320
prevent it from being all exactly what
it is, which is the descent of

864
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,840
wind onto the even even the action
of chasing way flies, by the way,

865
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,079
is that bipally symbolic action, Like
yeah, it's exactly like this.

866
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,679
You want the things that don't belong
to scatter, and you want to win

867
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,719
to come and unify that which is
there. It's by and by the way.

868
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:12,639
Do you know why it's called the
air? No? What do you

869
01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:15,159
mean? Well, I'm trying to
remember if if that the particular thing that

870
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:17,320
moving is their I think the air
is actually the veil that you put over

871
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,440
the Some priests out there will correct
me on this. I think the air

872
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:23,000
is actually the you know what,
I have a theory about this, but

873
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,840
I'm gonna stop talking to me.
I think I've got words confused in my

874
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,360
head and I don't want to embarrass
anybody. So but but for sure,

875
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,559
what you can see is that you
know, even in the story in the

876
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:37,480
Gospel, when Jesus actually blows on
the disciples, like he just he just

877
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:42,119
blows on them. You know,
all of these things which which it is

878
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:44,079
the air. It is the air. Okay, what is the air?

879
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:46,719
It's it's called the air a e
r A e r. That's what the

880
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,639
cloth is called. And it's but
it's I mean, the word means like

881
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:55,840
air, it means it means the
atmosphere. M h. And if you

882
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,719
uh, there's that prothesis ritual,
like the liturgy before the liturgy, the

883
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:04,519
little thing that the priest and the
deacon do to get the gifts ready prepared,

884
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:08,280
and if you pay attention to the
service, they're actually like it's like

885
01:02:08,639 --> 01:02:12,400
it's the it's the recreation of the
world, the genesis, but it's also

886
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,679
the crucifixion, and both of those
things are happening. So the air is

887
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:19,000
like, that's the that's the atmosphere. That's the air. Yeah, the

888
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,960
dome, the dome Heaven that's placed
there. So anyway, that's always been

889
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,199
super cool to me because like when
Saint Maximus the Confessor says something like,

890
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:29,239
uh, you know, when Christ
was on the cross, he was creating

891
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,920
the world or like finishing the creation
of the world, right, Like you

892
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:37,079
actually see that in the pro thesis
ritual itself. Like it's it's like that's

893
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,880
just baked in and I'm sure nobody
did that on purpose, so to speak,

894
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:45,000
like it's just like this is what
we do. But anyway, yeah,

895
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:46,480
so so but yeah, that that
that the air, like the wind

896
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,079
descending, the air descending the spirit. I mean, that's what the word

897
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:52,519
is, right air. We don't
and we don't have to, you know,

898
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:59,039
once you understand that these things are
not separated, that that the use

899
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:05,800
of the physical, it's a manifestation
of the deep pattern is not a superstition,

900
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:08,320
right, it is the uniting of
heaven and Earth. And so of

901
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,599
course blowing on something is not sufficient
like I could if I blow on and

902
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:16,559
if I blow on the on a
cup just out of in my it does

903
01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:21,679
not make it the Eucharist. But
in the proper context, within the proper

904
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:25,880
meaning structure, you know, in
the proper hierarchy. Then this physical act

905
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:31,360
becomes the vehicle for the higher pattern
necessarily, because that's actually how the world

906
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:37,679
functions, just two more instances of
like air and blowing. Right. So,

907
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,840
Christ when it comes to the apostles, when he appears to them after

908
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:46,039
his resurrection, says that he breathes
on them. That says, received the

909
01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:49,400
Holy Spirit. And of course,
like the fullness of that doesn't come till

910
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,800
Pentecost, which is a weird thing
by the way. Yeah, no,

911
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,320
I don't really understand why. But
it's also to show that, look,

912
01:03:54,599 --> 01:04:00,400
folks, the spirit that the disciples
receive from heaven is all ready the spirit

913
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,880
that makes the world exist. It's
like there is a newness to it,

914
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,119
but there's also a deep continuity.
It's not like this thing that all of

915
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:12,039
a sudden happens and this, ever
it is, it is in some ways

916
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:15,519
something both new but also a repetition
of something that has always been true.

917
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,280
So I'm not I don't want to
to say that. Can I say this?

918
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,960
I don't want to diminish the reception
of the Holy Spirit after baptism,

919
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,159
but it is activating something which is
true about being human. So there's an

920
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:35,079
important difference between something being new and
something being novel. Like novel is like,

921
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:39,079
oh, I've never seen this before. Something being new is in the

922
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:44,159
sense of like it it hasn't like
hasn't decayed, right, you know.

923
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,440
Like so it's like you can have
something that's that's that's new in the sense

924
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:53,280
of its like the we seing in
like the Pascal canon. Come let us

925
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,119
drink the new vintage. Right,
this is the new vintage. This is

926
01:04:56,159 --> 01:05:00,440
the new wine. Right. But
it's not like Pasco or wasn't around before,

927
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:02,840
right, but this is the this
is the better vintage, right,

928
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,800
you know. And it's not like
Adam wasn't literally created that way, right,

929
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:11,960
exactly, created by this Holy Spirit, the same spirit down Pentecost,

930
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,280
the one you receive after baptism going
into Adam. And that's actually how humans

931
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,360
are made. So and that brings
me to the other example, which is

932
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:26,840
when we make a catechumen in the
Orthodox Church. Okay, the priest reads

933
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,559
exorcism prayers and by the way,
those exorcism prayers kick all kinds of butt,

934
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:34,159
they're so cool. He reads extorcism
prayers and he comes over to the

935
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:39,239
catacumen, and we'll actually do this, even if it's a baby or an

936
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:44,159
adult or whatever, will come over
and he'll breathe three times in the face,

937
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,760
over the face and breast of the
of the person who's being received in

938
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:54,639
the shape of a cross. And
that breathing is especially with connection to baptism.

939
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:58,000
Right, there is a sense of
like God breathing a spirit into Adam.

940
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,960
Right. But it's all so it's
also like a scattering, right,

941
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,880
because it comes with the exorcism,
right, it comes with the exorcism.

942
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:12,679
The whole point of that breath it
does. Like, I don't like there's

943
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,679
there there's there's probably like a more
intellectual way to explain this, but yeah,

944
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,599
like you're just like, it's a
it's a it's a wind that scatters

945
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:23,280
the demons, right, it blows
the demons out, like and and and

946
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,440
there's something about the in the context
of the right that's being performed, in

947
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,480
the context of the person who's doing
who is a priest, who's who's you

948
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,159
know, been ordained for the purpose, et cetera. Like, But but

949
01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:39,320
it's it's just I mean, that
is to me, that's one of my

950
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,440
favorite that's one of my favorite rights
because it's so earthy and and you get

951
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,480
to spit on the devil. And
I know that some people are like,

952
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,199
oh, let's spitting on the devil. Thing that probably came later and and

953
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:51,199
and whatever, like I don't care. I like it. But anyway that

954
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:58,039
the the like, there's no way
to like explain this stuff to to like

955
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:00,519
a modern person without them like feeling
it's perstitious. But more and more I

956
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:05,039
think people are are coming back around
to being able to understand the world in

957
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:10,960
this way. And it's it's it's
the like for for a child or for

958
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,679
a saint, it's very easy to
understand what's he doing. He's blowing the

959
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:16,800
demons away? Right, And then
if you ask a stupid person like me,

960
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,079
then you what's he doing? Oh
well, it's like the bread and

961
01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:23,719
and you know, like it's symbolism
and stuff like this, like I have

962
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,039
to I have to like pouch on
all these things. But then like basically

963
01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:30,599
you know it's but it's both of
those things. It's the way it's the

964
01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:34,280
way that the wind works, right, A great name for like a seventies

965
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:38,599
like I don't know, like Celtic
band. Anyway, the way that the

966
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:41,199
wind works. It's the it's the
it's the way that the wind works in

967
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,159
terms of it gives life, but
then it also blows things away they shouldn't

968
01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:46,760
be there. So yeah, going
back again to like keeping the flies off

969
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,400
the gifts or whatever, which is
you know, this is one of the

970
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,679
purposes of like the liturgical fans as
well. Right, well, that has

971
01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:58,239
nothing that that does not in any
way negate like the symbolism of what's happening

972
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,320
on a spiritual level, Like that's
the whole point. Yeah, Somebody's like

973
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,039
this was to get rid of the
flies. I'm like, I know,

974
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:10,280
I know, but like you know, there's literally a demon called Lord of

975
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,280
the Flies, so you know,
you do what you want to do with

976
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,600
that. But anyway, so I'm
rambling now, but this is good.

977
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,720
So I think I think that you
know what the point I wanted to make

978
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:26,159
before we end is mostly to understand
how this is what universal history is.

979
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:32,159
Universal It is about this idea,
the pentecost as being the possibility of both

980
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:38,880
multiplicity and unity. Fully, you
know that everybody hearing the word in their

981
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:43,239
own story, in their own logos, in their own uh the logos,

982
01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:45,520
hearing the logos in their own their
own lives and in their own traditions.

983
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,239
All of this is possible. It
doesn't mean that everything is good and that

984
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,880
everything is kept in it's all good. That's not what it means. But

985
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:56,039
it means that that possibility is there, and that the connection between the two

986
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,880
will reveal what is true and what
is good about about the story. So

987
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,560
yeah, yeah, all right,
it's beautiful. It's beautiful like that.

988
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,520
And that's why, like when I
started looking at I was like, this

989
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,079
is what this is what we have
to talk about, because it's the whole

990
01:09:08,119 --> 01:09:11,479
projects, the whole thing that we've
been tryed to do, like all contained

991
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,399
in a single story. And I
would just tell people, listen, you're

992
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,479
going to celebrate Pentecosts actually whether or
not you want to. And and the

993
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:25,399
society, the society that you live
in is trying to build Babbel, right

994
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,840
and we'll see. You can see
what's happening. You can see the scattering

995
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:34,680
coming, right, so you know, celebrate Pentecost be like Noah, be

996
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:40,359
like you know, and then yeah, anyway, that's it all right everyone,

997
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:45,239
And so so yeah, this is
we're continuing on with the universal history.

998
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,600
Pay attention. We you know,
we're coming back, so we'll see

999
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:53,479
you very soon. And everyone pay
attention because, as we hinted at earlier,

1000
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,000
Richard and I are going to go
to Hell very soon. Actually we're

1001
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,000
going to go to Hell after Pasca, which is a bit odd. Yeah,

1002
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:03,439
well Lent was really busy, too
busy going to Hell in other ways

1003
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:08,960
another ways, exactly so, and
so we are going to do a first

1004
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,680
pass at Dante. We're going to
go to to do the Inferno, you

1005
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,079
know, We're going to do the
contos, go through the contos. We're

1006
01:10:15,119 --> 01:10:19,760
going to give ourselves a lot of
time now for each episode to listen to

1007
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:26,119
Richard's analysis, but then also I'll
do some symbolic interpretation as well with questions.

1008
01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:30,079
This is going to be a massive
symbolic world feast, and so we're

1009
01:10:30,119 --> 01:10:34,000
definitely looking forward to going to Hell
with all of you after Pasca. My

1010
01:10:34,119 --> 01:10:39,079
favorite thing about Dante is that by
the time you get through the comedy,

1011
01:10:39,119 --> 01:10:42,840
you will have talked about everything it
is. It is in many ways the

1012
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,199
sort of the apex of the whole
universal history project of the Middle Ages.

1013
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:50,920
Because Dante leaves almost nothing on the
table. He integrates something from everything that

1014
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:57,079
came before him, and so it's
going to be incredible. I love the

1015
01:10:57,119 --> 01:10:59,840
comedy as most people do. I've
taught through it several times, so I'm

1016
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:03,439
looking forward to doing this with the
Symbolic World community. So that's coming out

1017
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,720
May the sorry, did we are
to say the day? May the ninth,

1018
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,199
So that's coming up May the ninth, and you should be able to

1019
01:11:11,359 --> 01:11:13,800
sign up for the class on symbolic
World too, but I think there's already

1020
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,520
like a place, so you can
go to symbolic world dot com and you

1021
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,079
will find a place where you can
sign up, so you get the news

1022
01:11:19,119 --> 01:11:23,479
as soon as we open the class, and so there's already quite a few

1023
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,720
people in there, so we're excited
to see how it comes. So everybody,

1024
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:28,680
talk to you soon. Bye bye,
