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Dark Destinations may be end times Night's
creature. Why would a few more casually

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struggle me because of their blood will
join yours a radio drama anthology. You

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are wrong how you figure Every mark
on Mongo is hunting you down, not

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you, your partner, he said, I didn't have a ray gun.

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Full cast performances set in the haunted
corners of the globe. Darkness is coming

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for you. That's the fear that
taunts me. Dark Destinations by fatherm Alone

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at Weirdingwaymedia dot com weird Welcome back
midnight viewers to Anthologies Attack. I'm your

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host, Father Malone and with me
as always co host Antonio Lapour Buenos Dias,

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Father Malone, Buenos Noce is.
Depending on where you are in the

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world, We're in the same spot
as previous episodes have noticed where we're branching

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out in the anthology universe. Here
stepping away from horror. We're stepping all

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the way from horror. Here,
we're stepping away from all most in all

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genre. Here, this is all
just straight up filmmaking, an anthology film

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in the eldest tradition of anthology films. Just three short stories here. The

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connective tissue is the city of New
York. Thus, the filmmakers involved Woody

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Allen, Franciscort Coppola, and Martin
Scorsetacey. They've all gotten together to tell

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us some New York stories. I'm
fifty years old. I'm a partner in

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a big law firm. You know, I'm very successful, and I still

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haven't resolved my relationship with my mother. Zoe. I noticed it's difficult your

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father and I. I'm trying to
reconciliation. What but I'm moving out?

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Where you're gonna go? What can
you afford? You don't want to sleep

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with me anymore? Hey, I'm
a big boy. You don't have to

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blot in the street. We're still
an employer employee, right. My mother

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always humiliates me. She just gives
me a hard time. She she's always

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telling me that I look terrible.
Hi, man, I hope we're not.

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Hi. How are you gee?
You look terrible? My mother did

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it again? How do you suppose
I feel with her out there calling me

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all those strange foreign names? What's
the corva anyway? Oh? It's Jewish

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for what? It's a horror Hello, room service, send up a room.

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Just kidding, it's me. I'm
a little bit in hot water.

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Maybe I can help pap going on. We're having a costume party, a

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big custom party. Got anything.
I'm taking a vacation, so we you're

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desperating. You tell me is twelve
years old. You should listen to her.

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I didn't go to Florida with a
girlfriend, like I told you.

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Somebody else. I appreciate heard kitty
and he's here a scorn split left me.

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Okay, o the right. It's
just some guy. I said.

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You have to go right up in
his face to night. It's not him

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walking with me and make an entrance
with the firepower. Why do you make

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me do that? Listen to it? I love him. What are you

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doing? I'm speaking with a dead
friend of mine. Would you rather tell

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privately? Because I couldn't wait?
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that's not necessary. We're not discussing
anything personal. I'm the daughter and you're

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the mother. I'm the mother and
you're the daughter. Sometimes I feel I

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should just quit suicide. This is
a time of place. You're right in

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the heart of the heart. Put
this is New York. It's here for

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you. You know his spot That
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cool. It will bait New York
Stories. This was released on March tenth,

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nineteen eighty nine. As I said, it is a trio of tales

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the directors Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, and Francis Ford Coppola, well three

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months before Batman. Ah oh yeah, exactly right. Yeah, that's BB

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and AB Right. So the conceit
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some movies about New York. Now, Initially the third filmmaker was not going

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to be friends Fort Coppola. It
was Stephen Spielberg, which makes little to

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no sense given how West Coast a
human being he is. Nevertheless, once

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Francis Ford Coppola became involved, the
key dropped out deleteriously. So I would

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say, but we'll get to the
content in a moment. Let's just start

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at the top, And we really
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our first tale is Life Lessons.
This one is written by Richard Price,

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who was pretty much the hottest New
York biographer during the nineteen eighties his novels

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Clockers. He an incredible voice,
an incredible writer, and can't think of

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anyone better at that moment to sum
up New York City for Martin Scorsese,

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it was Schrader in the seventies,
but I think right here Richard Price is

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doing it. This one stars Nick
Nolty and Resent ar Kent. Story about

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a painter, Lloyd Dobby, who
is he has an assistant, a younger

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assistant. He is an old man, he's all Picasso out there, and

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this is about him coming to terms
with her and his relationship with her and

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her relationship to him, and they
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She's his assistant, his painter's assistant, but she's also his lover, and

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they share a loft together, and
we get the sense that this is not

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the first assistant he's had in the
loft, but he is trying desperately to

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keep hold of her, and she's
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What'd you think of this one,
man, I honestly, I'm not a

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fan of pretty much any of these. I found that in this picture,

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all the protagonists, all the main
characters, were really, really, really

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unlikable. In some cases I would
say despicable, but go ahead, and

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he's despicable. He's just and he's
not an old man. He's like our

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age. He's like forty nine fifty
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old, but continue Jackson Mary Jackson
pollocky. Yeah, thats another who I

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thought of. And even it's funny
because they mentioned like he's friends with Jackson

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Pollock and stuff. I feel like
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his press is making amount to be, and he kind of knows that as

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a character. Like I'm watching this
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art's okay. You know, I'm
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it's okay. My eyesn't like,
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or anything like that said, okay
painter. I feel like he's probably not

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as good as he as everyone thinks
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he's just a giant, fucking asshole. I would have rather seen this story

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from her perspective than his. Yeah, I think ultimately you have to think

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that it is because well, no, it's not. I mean, this

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is definitely his story. You're right, But at the end of the day,

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she doesn't suffer at the and she
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where Nick Nolty recognizes all of his
bullshit right at the end when he's about

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to take on the new assistant,
where he's sizing her up and realizing,

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yeah, she's absolutely right about me. This is just who I am,

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This is just the next thing,
and yeah, you hit the nail right

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on the I feel like Scorsese is
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in this story, because as you
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fifty making this movie, right,
and as you can see, his young

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girlfriend is playing the friend because that
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time. It's a cavalcade of Scorsese
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I noticed Leana Douglas right away,
and I'm going, oh, look,

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there's Scorsese's cute young girlfriend, and
here's the guy Doug dealing. So I

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feel like there's some a lot of
like self reflection going on in that movie.

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And it's weird because it's like he's
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hit middle age because like his movie
before this is Last Impatient of Christ,

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which really just goes into his whole
upbringing as a Catholic, as being you

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know, various. I don't know
about you, but very similar to mine.

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I'm cuban. I know what he
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thing. I was an older boy
and all this stuff. I really liked

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the pageantry of it and all that
stuff. Like him. That's where I

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first acted, playing Jesus when I
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so sure, I was in the
May Parade, Irish Catholic here,

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so we were all similarly fucked in
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so but then his next movie,
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about this middle aged artist dealing with
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liking young tale and if he's trying
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for that. You know, I
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know, you just don't grow up. Artists tend to not grow up,

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so you know, they tend to
like younger women, I think, and

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younger men as far as we can
see Madonna and Share and any other number

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of successful lady artists too. Maybe
that's it. I don't know. Well,

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you know, the thing is,
what's better than someone adoring you who

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hasn't heard any of your old barring
stories exactly? Yeah, it's a good

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point. And then the next movie
is Good Found, which is about the

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neighborhood more or less the people he
grew up around. You know, yeah,

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he wasn't a gangstory that, but
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a neighborhood. I knew these guys. So I feel like there's a lot

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of self reflection in that time period
of his movie making. So maybe that

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hasn't to do with it. I
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actually wildly successful. You know,
I'm certainly no stranger, and you aren't

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either. Too unlikable protect movies.
You know, this isn't Travis Bickell.

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He ain't fucking shooting up anybody.
This is not charming all. He's for

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the from Travis Biglockett obviously, but
his unlikable protagonists tend to be have a

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charm to them that that you like, see what it is? Oh well,

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okay, Yeah, Henry Hill is
a jerk, but you know he's

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not an asshole. He's very fun
to hang around. Yeah, Jesus are

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really little nuts, but it's Jesus
or you know, hey, you know

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his gangsters and casino they're all murderous
thugs. But come on, Joe Peschy's

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a funny guy. You know,
I want to double back to something you

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said earlier, This should have been
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because the story we're being told is
not a news story. It's just

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it's done in an interesting way.
But the idea of the mentor who is

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sort of not praying on but you
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for their own means there's nothing new
to that. I would definitely have enjoyed

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the protege's point of view when they're
realizing, like what am I putting up

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with? Just because this person is
talented? What other charm is there?

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Because as you said, Nick Nolty's
not putting any on display, or they're

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not allowing his character to put any
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meet him, he's just desperation.
Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe I

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just don't know, Maybe that's it. Maybe I'm just viewing into that and

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I don't like why am I going
on this journey with this guy? I

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don't like this guy at all,
and not even I'm not joying his train

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wreck. That's another thing, you
know. Yeah, the characters at Wolba

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Wall Street are all terrible people.
You don't want to spend any time with

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But you enjoy watching their train wreck
a little bit. Oh they're fun.

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Yeah. I wouldn't want to like
be woven into their lives, but I

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would certainly sit across the room and
watch them. Yeah, exactly. And

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here Nick Nolty's just that maybe if
you know, you know, de Niro

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played this part, I might have
it, might have played a little might

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have played a little better. I
don't know. I like, maybe I'm

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gonna believe de Niro more as a
tortured artist in that time period than Nick

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Nolty. Maybe you think Nick Nolty's
an asshole, I don't know. I

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think it would have been worse if
it been. Actually, I think he

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would have played full end too,
that desperation, and that's all we would

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have gotten. And at least Nick
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Yeah, I think this might be
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of all the time spent on Roseanna
or Cat's foot. Oh yeah, which

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apparently is a foot. Oh really, she didn't have that cute little tiny

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foot. No. She specifically asked
or Sacy if she could have a foot

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double, which he thought was ridiculous
but accommodated. Anyway, there you go,

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and Roseanne Arctic they ever found attractive
until last. All this movie,

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she has a couple of moments where
she does this little smile. I'm like,

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oh, I see why she draws
so many rock stars insane. Oh

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it's yeah, it is that smile. Have you seen Have you seen After

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Hours before this movie? Yeah?
After Hours it is great. I haven't

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seen it in twenty years, though, maybe I should go big enough and

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watch it again. You one again
loved After Hours, man, I saw

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like three times in high school,
Like I thought it was the coolest movie.

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But I was always a big Patrician
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as as a young man with movie
crushes. I always saw Patricia arcat was

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just where the Mariars Ain't Gonna dream
no more? Or her? And what

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was it in the True Romance?
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Alabama Whorley Wow situation. That is
a perfect character portrayed perfectly. But

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he wrote, I get the Rosanna
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oh okay, I got it,
and she was good and I felt

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really just watching the movie. I
just felt terrible for her. Maybe it's

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just you know, maybe we're watching
this in nineteen eighty nine, we're looking

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at it. We're going to look
at it differently, you know. It's

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you know, thirty five years later
we were as men. We look at

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we you know, evolved a little
bit socially, and I think we might

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be able to look at things differently
and recognize, oh, he's being bros.

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You know. But there's another thing
though, too. Hey, I've

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dated younger women, not a thirty
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ten twelve sometimes, I mean the
most, and those younger women will driving

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nuts. Well, I guess the
idea is here that she's just really going

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to talk about art and you yeah, well, oh the younger woman driving

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nuts is because he had nothing to
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anything. There's no common ground there, so he's just talking at her the

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whole time. What are your cultural
touchstones with a thirty year span. Yeah,

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it's ridiculous, zero, I would
say. Yeah, speaking of boyfriends

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and girlfriends on screen, Peter Gabriel
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Debbie Harry. Oh yeah, yeah, that whole scene, Steve Buscemi,

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it should be noted. Yeah,
playing a performance artist playing what you know,

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he wrote his monologue. His character
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a performance artist that he's the he's
the man that that Rosanna Archett has been

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carrying on an affair with, but
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she's stuck back with Nick Nolty and
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New York at that time he and
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man shows like with monologues. They
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that's cool, yeah, part of
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an abandoned subway tunnel was interesting with
those lights and everything. This episode,

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this segment looks great. Yeah,
it does look great. And is it

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Bajas filming? It was he the
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Nestor Elmendros. Oh wow, because
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moves that Bajas was using and Goodfellas
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that that's every time I watch to
Martin Scarcese movie. Just all his static

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shots are floating, so it's that
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like the same crane guy or the
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there's that thing where it's like there's
a pan around Nick Nolty to her or

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something, there's that it's an over
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but it's done like on a crane, and it's that very deliberate that

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you'll see Goodfellows all over the place
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they're I guess two different PP's there
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great guy or something that's called this
Corsese kind of like it, and that

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push in that he does, it's
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guy's talking about art but he's still
shooting it like Goodfellows. And I love

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anytime a filmmaker gets to do like
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I always appreciate where their indulgences are
because they will always have some cinematic

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trick in their mind from when they
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this case, it's iris saying,
oh yeah, he loves that. He

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even the Iris morning he's been using
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using it? Here, I'm sure
he may have. There may have been

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a shot I'm not aware of before
this movie, but this is wall to

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wall Iris. Yeah. For me, it's I like Iris. I like

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the Star Wars Iris, the wipes
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me what I like a lot.
And I'm a big dissolved fan. I'll

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the short I'm working on, I've
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I just love that. So yeah, yeah, and I think you're absolutely

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right on these shorts. The guys
get to folks, get to experiment a

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little bit and try new things and
play with stuff. Yeah, because the

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couple of segment is really inventive too. Yeah, he's trying stuff in there,

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I think. I mean, well, that's a whole other conversation.

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I don't want to talk about sports
a little bit. More Overall, I've

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really enjoyed this one and it made
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But at the same time, if
I never hear procol Harem's Whiter Shade of

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Pale again, it was an amusing
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it's enough already there are some songs
that I'm just that's enough. Put them

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away now, you know what I'm
watching this segment specifically, I imagine someone

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gen Zer going boobern nonsense, that's
what it was, so oh boober this

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movie with just the soundtrack and the
whole thing. I don't know, And

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maybe that's it. This might be
just a thing where that was the song

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he was listening to all the time, and let's just put that on the

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soundtrack because and it's not I'm not
saying it's not appropriate for that character and

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in this situation in this film.
But Jesus Christ, you're right to me,

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not even the younger generation. I'm
just like this boomer bullshit. Get

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it out of the way. Martin
Scorsese. You put Devo in the casino?

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Yeah, I don't think that may
be a budget constraint too. This

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is the coolest classic song that we
can afford that would fit this ex hippie

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guy. You know, we can't
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But he has Bob Dylan there,
like every time he's furiously painting, we

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get some how does it feel by
Bob Dylan? Oh yeah? And it's

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a live version. It's really good
and he paints furiously, So the procol

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harum is the artist inspiration and Bob
Dylan is his actual artistic motion. There

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you go. But the way it
wraps up. I did like the ending

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a lot, because you know,
I like the cycnical ending to it,

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like it's just this is just who
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He's just gonna do it again,
and you're like, what a scumback.

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But at least there's that moment of
his own acceptance. But I guess I

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am just this fucking user. Yeah. I feel like younger folks would not

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like this at all. If there
are any younger folks out there, let

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us know, give us some comments. My younger I mean, anyone under

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the edge of forty right, yeah, really, because you know, here

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we are talking discussing of ontology film
from thirty five years ago. It but

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you know, these are three big
names, and in nineteen eighty nine,

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these guys were the names. You
know, they were giants. Yeah,

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Copla had won you know, a
bunch of oscars. He made The Godfather

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movies and like, well, The
Godfather I think bought Coppola a lifetime of

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goodwill, Like you're Oh. Yeah, he made a godf Right. He

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followed it with Apocalypse and Now,
which everybody hated, which is too bad

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because I think it's his best.
I'm sorry, let me go back.

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He followed that with The Conversation.
Oh yeah, the Conversation is really good.

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Fucking great man. He was on
a he was on a roll,

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a cinematic role. He gets to
pass for the rest of his life as

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far as I'm concerned. In the
eighties he started like sparamenting. In the

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eighties he made One from the Heart
and that bankrupted him and then he had

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to become a director for hire.
But nevertheless, he did Outsiders, which

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is great. He did Rumblefish,
which I fucking adore. He did Peggy

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Sue Got Married. That's his director
for Higher Thing. People were like,

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oh, he's doing this. Watch
that movie. It's one of the sweetest,

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most affecting movies of the nineteen eighty. Yeah. And he made Tucker

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Tucker with his with his buddy.
That man had a dream. Yeah,

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who that Tiger? Oh my god. Jeff Bridge is in his prime.

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Yeah, little Christian Slater, listen, we have to move on. I

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really don't want to, but we
have to start life without Zoe. This

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one is the Francis Ford Coppola segment. This one was written by Francis Ford

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Coppola and Sophia Coppola, who I
believe was seventeen at the time. Oh

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seventeen. Oh okay, that really
she was seventeen, because I kept feeling

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she was twelve, because a lot
of it feels like it was written by

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a twelve year old. Well,
remember the next year she would be in

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Godfather three. Oh yes, I
can't fault him for that. He loves

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his kid, man, what are
you gonna do? Yeah, And this

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is one hundred percent that this is
a studio saying have some money in him

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putting together a family picnic and just
enjoying his life and his family and apparently

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getting them all a free trip to
Greece. Well there you go. So

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in that regard, that just makes
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then I only love Copola for the
work. And this is not disappointing.

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This was it felt insulting. Yeah, I know, and but I and

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then again back to another and giving
his daughter the best film school imaginable.

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She's that bitch parlance of the times. She's that ever respected filmmaker, that

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Oscar winner, because her dad took
her to work with him, and she's,

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hey, you're seventeen, let's write
this together. Hey, you know

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what, just come me in my
movie. I don't care what you know

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what I mean? I like because
I want to do. He's a great

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dad, and I like, you
know, I would love to spend just

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a lunch with him, just getting
to chat with him, because I learned

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a lot from Copola. Man,
those Godfather discs, the audio commentary on

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The Godfather. I got just about
as much out of those as that I

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did four years of college, five
years of college. Man. So but

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this I wanted to smack a new
little kid. This okay, So here's

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the plot. Effectively, this is
the This is a let's say, inspired

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by the Eloise books of the nineteen
fifties, that was a little girl living

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in a penthouse of the Plaza in
New York, and in the New York

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that we get here is sort of
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like a little affluent girl could probably
be protected by and guided by Dorman

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and you know, butlers and the
general populace of New York. This is

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made prested by that creepy holeless guy
that grabs her the yeah, or just

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spirited away by the cab driver,
or any of the crazy nineteen eighty nine

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actual perilous situations that this character puts
herself into. It's okay, but the

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plot is her. She's living effectively
by herself. Her father is a famous

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floutist, her mother is an actress, performer, dancer of who knows they're

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both parents are absent. She's living
her rich affluent life, going to a

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rich affluent school, uh throwing parties
for rich affluent boys. I would,

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I'm so sickened by the rich affluents. I gotta say, the whole movie

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was just about Each movie was about
a rich ass Each little segment was about

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a rich asshole, because you know, I don't know any artists that makes

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that kind of money that Nick Nolty
was making. And that thing where he

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owned the building, the fuck artist
owns the building, and you know he's

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the rich asshole. There this here, rich asshole little girl with a rich

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asshole little friends. And then the
third one, rich asshole lawyer who works

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for a men Manhattan advertising firm,
who's a lawyer for a Manhattan advertising firm

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or whatever he is, three rich
affluents, out of touch motherfuckers. Sorry,

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yeah for giving us. We're given
three potential stories to sum up New

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York City in nineteen eighty nine.
Did nobody have Spike Lee's phone number?

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Is? He could have done one
and it would have been like, Yo,

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this is what people in New York
actually live like. This is also

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the same year that Do the Right
Thing comes out there. There's no question

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if you want a New York story
from nineteen eighty nine, which which Avenue

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to take it straight to radio raheem
Man to Do the Right Thing as a

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fucking masterpiece of absolutely I watched it
again like a year ago, and I'm

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just like, oh my god,
this movie is so fucking good. How

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was this not the Best Picture nominee? And then that oh, okay,

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well obviously I know all right,
but still it's amazing. I remember being

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a kid and kim basing her coming
out to list the nominees for something,

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and you're taking time out of her
speech to shout out how good Do the

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Right Thing was. I remember just
a lot of controversy when the movie came

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out because of the ending of the
movie because it was not resolved ending and

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I'm like, but life is unresolved, and he was making life. He's

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here. My art is showing the
world that I grew up in, the

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world that I live in. I
remember seeing mister Lee like defending himself on

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one of the late night news programs, saying like, I'm sorry it didn't

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end with everybody linking hands and singing
we are the world, but that's just

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not where we are. That's,
you know, the dichotomy of cinema in

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nineteen eighty nine, which is,
you know, I guess that's around the

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year where I had, you know, sexual awakenings, but I had cinema

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awakenings. That's around the time when
I started paying attention I guess as a

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filmgoer and future filmmaker. But the
dichotomy look back that year. The two

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most important movies in that year are
Do the Right Thing Batman and you can't

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get a more opposite view of urban
life with those two movies, like and

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You're Right because Batman ties up nice
and neat and the hero saves the rich

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hero saves this end of the day. As much as I love Batman and

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we don't know, I love Batman, but like the movie starts with Batman

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effectively beating up too homeless men.
Two yeah, two homelessmen were clearly addicted

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to something and cracked out too,
because they just looked like, look,

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yeah, but that's movie Batman.
Oh yeah, Batman is a jerk.

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Movie Batman blows up people, and
movie Batman beats him homeless guys. Real

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comic book Batman would have given those
homeless guy jobs at Wayne Tower, at

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Wayne at the Wayne Foundation or something, and here he was like here,

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you you know, would have might
have smacked him around a little bit and

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then give him a lesson, like, hey, this is how you can

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improve your life. Batman is there
to beat up super criminals. He helps

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four people. But anyways, and
you know what else was going on in

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nineteen eighty nine, what else?
Life without Zoe? Life without how are

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we continuing? How are we getting
behind? Life had no Zoe in it.

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You know, if you look up
the word precocious, my goodness,

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every little motherfucker in this movie was
precocious. You know, I was starting

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to sound like Bernie Sanders a little
but going off on like the rich hassle

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Dan Pinjin, but like these characters
really are little shits, that little the

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little chic boy, and oh my
god, everybody speaks like they're forty eight

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years old. And here's what I
enjoyed in this segment, the opening sequence

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where she's being awakened by her butler, who's played by Don Novello, the

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Great Donovalle as a fellow fank man
of the Claw. He's father Grido Sarducci

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from seven. He basically did he's
he's doing the accent, and he's always

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a welcome presence, and here,
like it made me wish he was in

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more dramatic stuff because he's great at
it and he's so charming that the thought

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of an entire segment of this guy
and this girl sort of doing something in

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New York, their New York story
was very appealing. But then we go

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immediately to girls to the rich kids'
school and all the rich kid bullshit,

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and the whole thing is completely stylized. I mean, it's it's really like

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a comic book. All the girls
are, you know, dressed in these

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wide brimmed hats and everything. And
that's part of what like Coocho likes to

403
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.240
do. I mean, because look
at look at Dracula. He does a

404
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:21.920
very similar kind of movie making there. Everything in Dracula is very very stylized

405
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:26.400
and very very intentional and stuff.
But play Isn'tdracula. It doesn't play here

406
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.640
no as well here No, because
the fucking characters are little annoying assholes.

407
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.880
Yeah, and what there's they're they're
having that costume party and all of a

408
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.920
sudden, this train of eleven year
old little girls. But it's not like

409
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.920
Cleopatrick come in and a whole choreographed
thing, and I'm like, I know,

410
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.440
I'm supposed to go this is a
fantasy like for kids like Eloise and

411
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.559
shit. But this is just playing
really creepy and not playing, you know,

412
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:56.440
like it doesn't. I don't know. Maybe it's missing that Spielbergian thing.

413
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.240
Yeah. Now, had Spielberg shot
this, I think I would have

414
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:04.079
been better. Had Spielberg shot this, you wouldn't have minded any of this,

415
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.920
no, because he would have picked
children who you would have immediately fallen

416
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.559
in love with without them saying one
word. Yeah, And the the sort

417
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:16.480
of halcy and below that that Copola
is going for here would have been natural.

418
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.279
Yeah, that's that's definitely it.
Because I remember thinking about watching him

419
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.519
like Spielberg, I would have liked
everybody. I hate every character here.

420
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.319
I'm going, why, you know
what a worked? Had this been Dogavello's

421
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:38.880
kid instead of the original as the
little original asshole. Had the butler's little

422
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.759
girl get stolen the you know,
gotten a hold of the Tear of Allah

423
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:49.400
or whatever the hell it was?
That the Mystical Land of Shiraz, the

424
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:55.279
Australian the delicious Australian Wine. Is
that lady the Sheik's wife, the aunt.

425
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.880
Is that the lady for your eyes
only, You're goddamn right. It

426
00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:02.920
is Carol Bouquet lighting up the screen. I saw those eyes on that face,

427
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.240
like, oh, hey, I
know that, I know that lady.

428
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.000
So there are some charms in this
episode, but not really. And

429
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.920
I just want to yell at the
actors at the kids while they're filming it.

430
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.680
There's a there's a shot where they're
doing like the fake the little press

431
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:24.720
conference with the kid and came and
the girls pointing the camera and the got

432
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.640
pointing like the prop camera. She's
pointing it like a hundred feet away from

433
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.680
anybody talking, and I'm just like, oh, come on. What I

434
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.480
liked in that scene was you can
control the area you're in, but you

435
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.279
can't really control boats because there's a
bunch of people in the in the lake

436
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:45.480
behind them and who were clearly just
staring at the camera. Look picking a

437
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.920
movie. I feel like he probably
lets Sophia direct that scene. He let

438
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:55.480
her create the opening title sequence,
Oh yeah, which I thought was neat

439
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.960
in that we only got everyone's first
name. Yeah. I like that too.

440
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.599
I've only ever seen that done again. Tony Scott did that at the

441
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.719
end of Domino when he credited all
of his actors. It was lovely.

442
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:13.239
Domedo is a weird movie, man, Yeah, speak, there's a good

443
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.800
movie in Domino somewhere. I I
do like here at Knightley. It's just

444
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.320
it's so charming. As an actor, she was always like just like,

445
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.000
can't keep your eyes off of her. Most of everyone in that movie is

446
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:30.320
charming. You know, he's charming
in that movie. Mikey York from the

447
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.920
early two thousands. Oh yeah,
man, like he's staying anyway back.

448
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:37.800
We gotta get back, we gotta
finish, back to New York, back

449
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:42.199
to back, back to fake New
York, back to fake New York.

450
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.119
It's just, you know, and
not even charming. Fake New York.

451
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.159
This isn't Amali's Paris. You know, that's tail version of Paris. This

452
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:57.599
is just a sort of glossed over
New York like eighties via the fifties.

453
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:02.039
Some weird moments in this when uh
Talia Schier gets dressed down by her daughter

454
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.079
for her shoulder pads, Now that
was so bizarre. Now, I gotta

455
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.480
say, by eighty nine, you
should not have been wearing shoulder pads anyway.

456
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.000
That was She's that the little girl
is correct, but it was just

457
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.320
a weird, out of place thing
in the middle of this also weird thing.

458
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:22.480
You know what, I did like
Chris Elliott as the robber. I

459
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.280
did like Chris Elliott too. Yeah, he's just is this from the nineteen

460
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.199
forties or something? Why not?
Now listen he had kids. Oh but

461
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:37.280
the little girl, it's just like
her dialogue was well, it was there's

462
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:42.760
precocious and then there's precocious and yeah, and I know they pointed out,

463
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.679
oh you're not the mom. We
I'm the mom. But still it doesn't

464
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:51.639
like, you know, we're precocious. Works where it plays really well is

465
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.639
many on modern family. That little
kid is a precocious little fun and he

466
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.039
drinks his tea to this and he
always speaks a forty eight year old,

467
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.679
but everybody is always giving him shit
for it. People comment that they know

468
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.639
he's annoying with it, you know, like it's part of the character and

469
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:14.079
it works and everybody plays off of
it, whereas in this everybody is just

470
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.840
kind of precocious and they're allowed to
be like that and not the point because

471
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.519
if I talk like that, my
sisters would have given me all manner of

472
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.400
help. My mom would have been
like they had to, which it translates

473
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.039
into English, stop eating shit,
which is a human way of saying,

474
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:35.599
it's not being an idiot. You
more on Yeah, you know, there's

475
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:39.280
precocious and there's precocious. We deal
over on Midnight Viewing Horror Anthology podcast.

476
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.920
You would be not at all shocked
to know that every time there's a child

477
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.880
centric episode of an anthology series,
they tend to go with the young actor

478
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.400
who can handle the part. The
problem is the kid who can handle the

479
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:59.840
part is also precocious. They're a
child trained actor, so it comes off

480
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.960
false and phony. Yeah, I
look, it wasn't. In another podcast,

481
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.280
I was talking about goonies. But
anyways, they've Mae an interesting point.

482
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.480
I'll bring it up here. You
can edit all my thinking out.

483
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.440
The thing about goonies is they're not
precocious little kids, even though they because

484
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.639
their foul mouth, they talk really
fast. They're always out of breath.

485
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.519
Little kids are always out of breath
when they're talking. Man, it's because

486
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.199
they're the tiny little bodies and they're
just trying to get the words out.

487
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.920
We're here and it's all this thing, and it's amazing, and like a

488
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.760
party of eleven year olds just that
have been like running around like bananas.

489
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.519
Instead they're all like, ooh,
let's have high tea and have choreographed dances

490
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:44.199
and our masquerade ball. You know
how this would have worked if it made

491
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:47.039
those children five years younger, or
six years or four four years younger.

492
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.519
If this had been a bunch of
eight or nine year old girls, then

493
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.880
it would have been a fairy tale
and it would have all been magical.

494
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.880
The fact is, these are twelve
year olds who should be acting like goonies,

495
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.840
children who are acting like high society. Yeah. Instead they should be

496
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:08.719
you know, hilarious and me to
each other like twelve year olds are twelve

497
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:15.519
year olds are hilarious twelve year little
girls are sarcastic and biting and just the

498
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.840
meanest little things in the world.
They're hilarious characters, and these kids are

499
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.199
not funny at all. No,
these characters are you know, reading Paris

500
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:30.239
Vogue and drinking dakeries. Yeah,
I know that's right. They're drinking dakers

501
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.960
is a dakery for a twelve year
old. The reason they're drinking dakyries is

502
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.800
because that's what Fredo like to order. And havana and I don't know,

503
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:51.039
your father didn't trust time in ruths
anyway. Oh, by the way,

504
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:57.920
I think was the homeless guy?
Was he was Frank potentially or whatever the

505
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:02.239
fuck that guy's name is from Godfather
too? Oh was it? It'll be

506
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.800
here drinking him a cocktails? Hold
on, I think that was the homeless

507
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.800
guy. That's why I love this
town. She's why I love it.

508
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.199
I'm looking. Yeah, you know, I've just spoken about him on a

509
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:22.840
different podcast, and now I cannot
remember his name, so I'm gonna have

510
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:24.480
to cut all this shit out.
But I'm hoping you're right here. Life

511
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:31.039
without Sorry have become James King.
He's kind of crazy Italian name, I

512
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:38.880
know, that is it? Steve
Bishemy sounds like Steve. I can't find

513
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:46.360
the homeless guy listed. That doesn't
really matter. I do think I also

514
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:52.119
noticed the I could be wrong,
it sounded the same, but I also

515
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.079
noticed the guy from Goodfellas, the
drug dealer with the silencers. Hey,

516
00:39:55.119 --> 00:40:00.239
you want to see helicopters, Ohlstoy
helicopters. He's in this course, is

517
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:05.880
he one? He's in the Coppola
one. He's a doorman. We're talking

518
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.960
about Paul Herman. He's in all
three, in all three of them,

519
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.280
Okay, yeah, he's he's the
cop that Nick Nolty attempts to kiss in

520
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:16.280
the first. He's dormant here,
and where is he in the third one?

521
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.239
I know he's in there side.
I think he might be a dormant

522
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:22.239
in that one. Maybe he's a
dormant in that one too, I don't

523
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.079
know, but yeah, I know
he had noticed him. He and all

524
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:28.599
three of them. And I feel
like a movie like that needs a pronounced

525
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.119
guy that. Oh no, he's
the detective in the final one. Okay,

526
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:37.719
well that's some. But there's a
connecting thread between the three of them,

527
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.119
I guess, is that guy.
Yeah, Well, it's my understanding

528
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.760
that they'd all each worked with Paul
Herman anyway, sort of previous, so

529
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.760
that they may have cast him independently
of one another. If that's the case,

530
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.880
I would really like it. That
would be awesome. You know what.

531
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:57.400
There is a finite number of movie
working actors anywhere you go. I

532
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.239
mean, they're just gonna keep popping
up again and stuff. Plus, if

533
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.559
you like them and they worked out
for you, why wouldn't you get him

534
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:06.559
in again? You know, I
just got eligible for my sag card.

535
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.840
I might start auditioning for stuff.
Yeah, all right, that's the last

536
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.559
set about life without Zoe. I
can live without life without Zoe. Yeah,

537
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.239
and we're going to oh, you
know what, I do want to

538
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:24.519
point out one other fella here.
The gallery owner in the Scorsese episode is

539
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:31.599
Patrick O'Neil, who we've covered on
Midnight Viewing Night Gallery. He's in season

540
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.199
two, episode four, A Fear
of Spiders. You can go check that

541
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.719
episode out the back in the feed. We love Patrick O'Neill. He's good

542
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:43.480
here. I mean, he wasn't
really given anything to do other than be

543
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:51.440
a priggish old gallery owner, but
he's great at priggish I feel that's right.

544
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:52.920
But you know what. One more
thing on Zoe is I do think

545
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:58.679
Coppola again working with the family.
The family thing I think is what's neat

546
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.280
about this is, Hey, I'm
a to write this movie with my kid,

547
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.679
and I'm gonna like kind of show
her the ropes a little bit.

548
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.159
That's neat. I don't like the
movie, but I like him and what

549
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.159
he did. Oh yeah, and
I'm going to employ my dad and uh

550
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.679
yeah, and my sister who who
you know it looks who looks great in

551
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.280
it and is really warm as the
mom. I feel like I didn't see

552
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.639
enough Italia Shire growing up, Like
every time I saw her in something,

553
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.239
she's great, and I feel like
I would have liked to see more of

554
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.039
her. She's ill served here,
but it is good to see them in

555
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.559
the context that you're describing, which
is just as a Copola family reunion.

556
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:36.639
This movie works great. Oh and
the guy who plays her dad, he's

557
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:40.000
he's the slimy European guy in a
lot of stuff. That's Jim Carlo Giannini,

558
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:47.039
Yeah, who is effortlessly charming motherfucker
like Cassino is he Cassino rials know

559
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:51.719
what that he's in or I believe
so what I'm trying to think of.

560
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:57.320
I remember him mostly from pret Porte. Yes, he's in Quantum of Solace,

561
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.920
he was on Man Fire, he's
in Casino Royal as well. Yeah,

562
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.199
yeah, he's great. I love
him. But yeah, it shows

563
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.480
up briefly as her dad, just
to complicate the any I don't want to

564
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.480
talk about the story anything. Not
going to recommend this segment at all.

565
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:16.920
I'm going to infect discourage. So
now we move on. Oh, it's

566
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.639
a bundle of tics. Okay,
here's the premise. Is clever, right,

567
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.039
it's henpecked Woody Allan. It's just
Woody Allen. Uh. And he

568
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.239
has to deal with his mother,
who's always embarrassing him. Takes her to

569
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:34.280
meet his fiance's kids at a magic
show. She's volunteered to be the assistant

570
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:40.440
in a magic trick and disappears later, reappearing in the sky where she now

571
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.360
can embarrass him to everyone in New
York City, nay, the world.

572
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:52.039
So this is what his greatest fear
writ large. Everywhere he looks, his

573
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.119
mom is just floating up there.
Why do you do it? That man?

574
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:01.639
What was his character's name? Woody
Allen plays and Sheldon Sheldon Mills and

575
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:07.960
it was Mill steamed like he shortened
it. That's May Cristelle as mom Betty

576
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:12.599
Boo herself. This is her best
role in decades and decades, and I

577
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:16.639
would recommend anyone watched this segment if
you've only experienced Makee Cristelle as a flagellant

578
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:22.960
grandma in National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
It's kind of an ignominious end to her

579
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:29.480
film career. She's great here because
she takes the usual sort of hectoring mother

580
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:35.239
character and makes her genuinely sweet.
Yeah, it's a very weird dynamic.

581
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.159
It's very I don't know. I
hate him and this a lot. You

582
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.639
know, I lost my mom a
few years ago and I would give that

583
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:46.119
anything to be listen to her bitch
at me again. So like, and

584
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:50.480
I know it's the whole points go
to appreciate his mom and stuff. And

585
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.119
this is probably the most charming one
of the least of the three. You

586
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.119
know, I'm not a big Woody
Allen fan at all, Nora. I

587
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:04.599
mean I appreciate what he did.
I appreciate the sort of the new dynamic

588
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:08.800
of what like a romantic leading man
could be in cinema. And he's always

589
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:15.800
been clever and he's always had had
good visual instincts in his films. Nevertheless,

590
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.960
he really yeah, that was it. I'm good and there are charms

591
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:23.840
to each of them. Never let
I think Mighty Aphrodite is really funny.

592
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.800
Actually, yeah, everybody wasn't bad. But you know, he's a creeper

593
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.559
and he's a weird. I don't
think you like him that mant. I

594
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.239
remember going to watch Manhattan when I
was a young guy, going it's about

595
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.239
a forty something year old guy and
his seventeen year old girlfriend. I'm like

596
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:46.280
you, yeah, a stardust memories
right right, always believes that, like

597
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.039
always have that like that thing going
on. And I guess that again carrying

598
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:53.599
over that first thing. Maybe it's
just you know, guys, like it

599
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.960
would have been okay, it would
have been a nice sort of bookend to

600
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.960
life lessons if Woody Allen had I'd
been courting a younger girl and that was

601
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:05.960
the problem mom had. As it
is, it's just Mia Farrow. It's

602
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.599
just him courting me a farroh,
yeah, which I guess has an annoying

603
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.679
or any mom. But you guys, I don't know. Mia Fair is

604
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.440
pretty Bland here. Yeah, you
know she is, And I was always

605
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:22.800
more of a Diane Keaton in the
Woody Allen Leading Ladies. Andy Hall is

606
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.320
a great movie. Is not the
best picture in nineteen seventy seven, as

607
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.960
he know, as I'm warring by
Luke Skywalker t shirt while doing this.

608
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.039
But it's really well made. It's
really interesting. He does a lot of

609
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:34.800
cool stuff in it, and like
you said, he's got an interesting visual

610
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.159
style. He knows what he's doing. I like when he plays with the

611
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:43.840
conventions of movie making and he Hall's
Great's got cartoon bits, It's he's making

612
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.280
the fourth wall. It's all kinds
of stuff. It's got not a happy

613
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:52.719
ending. Nobody stays together like it's
pretty cool. But like I said,

614
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.920
I didn't. That's everything I need
at him this movie. I do like

615
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:01.280
the convention of the mom floating above
him and like his worst he deserves it.

616
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:06.039
He's kind of an assholet. But
you know, I mentioned Bekos's kids

617
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.440
that we end up running into over
at night gallery and such. But another

618
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:13.679
thing Ninth Gallery trafficked in were blackout
sketches where they would just set up set

619
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.079
up something with a monster and then
there'd be a joke. All right,

620
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.800
I already gave it the blood bank, you know, kind of one panel

621
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.079
New Yorker cartoons. This is a
one panel New Yorker cartoon. Oh wow,

622
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.639
that's really this could have been summed
up with just one image. Yeah,

623
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:36.119
and then it stretched out, not
with anything new or interesting from Woody

624
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:37.960
Allen. In fact, if you've
seen one of his movies, you will

625
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.639
get all of this. It's and
I got it. Okay. Here's the

626
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:49.159
one thing I really loved in this
segment. The characters at the magic show.

627
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:53.920
His mother is in the box on
stage while the magician is shoving swords

628
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:58.519
into it. It's that old trick, and the close up of Woody Allen's

629
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:04.320
face sort of the delight without over
selling how delighted he is that he's watching

630
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.760
swords being driven into the box that
contains his mother. That was great.

631
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:14.960
The other great thing was Larry David's
hair. Oh god, yeah, there's

632
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.679
Larry David out of nowhere. Hey
wait hair, Yeah, that's right.

633
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.320
It made him look like asterisks and
obelisk or like early Thor, like a

634
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:28.599
Thor helmet. But the sheer bushiness
of the hair up off of the bald

635
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.760
head made him look like some sort
of norseman. He looked pretty good though.

636
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.400
I was gppy to see him.
It was like, I guess,

637
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.880
right before they sold seinfilm. Yeah, right around that time, at that

638
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.159
time. Yeah, so it's like
they're shooting his nineteen eighty eight. Yeah,

639
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.079
they're probably writing it right now.
That's wild, huh. He had

640
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.639
a good year. He's in a
Woody Allen thing and then he goes also

641
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.199
so the TV show. Yeah,
I think he was in Out Radio Days

642
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:58.159
as well, So I think those
yeah, those two have history. Yeah.

643
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.800
And then he started something later too. Yeah, it was like two

644
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.760
thousand and seven. I think something
that I can't remember the name of it.

645
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.480
I should remember the name of it. It's gonna, no doubt better

646
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.280
than Oedipus Rex, which is the
name of this segment. Like I said,

647
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:16.039
I don't really know how to even
criticize or discuss the movie past.

648
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:22.199
It should have been thirty seconds long, yeah, because I don't need to

649
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.440
hear sing sing sing again, you
know. I mean, look, I

650
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:31.119
guess seeing may Cristelle being sort of
effortlessly charming while they've posited her as some

651
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:36.320
sort of villain is really funny.
It was nice to see Julie Kavner in

652
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:43.280
a non Marge Roll on Marg Roll
with a really pleasant smile and very warm

653
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:47.880
I liked her character, you know
that, but very kind of manic pixie

654
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.960
girl, I guess. And you
know Evilly got you know, a few

655
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.079
minutes of deal with her. But
I liked your performance a lot. Another

656
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.239
actor that all you know are about
is really Marg but she's a doctor.

657
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.519
I would have liked to see her
more since she's saw out of Friends too,

658
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.960
like Meg Ryan friends a lot.
Yeah, exactly, yes. And

659
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:14.840
of course Tracy Ollmans show. She
was really good, one sketch, variety

660
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.639
of stuff. She's very, very
talented. She's so good, in fact,

661
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:22.039
that it made me wish that the
Mia Farah character hadn't even existed.

662
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.400
Should have just opened with the character
at the magic show and he loses his

663
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.480
mom and then meets this crazy psychic
who tries to help him get him back.

664
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.960
That would have been fun for thirty
minutes. Here's an interesting phenomenon speaking

665
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.679
of the lengths of time. The
Scorsese segment is the longest segment at forty

666
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.360
five minutes, and it flew by. Yeah, but they were all too

667
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:46.360
long. Each one of these there's
no reason why they shouldn't have been This

668
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:51.480
movie shouldn't have been ninety minutes.
These things should have been twenty five minutes

669
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.840
long each, twenty two minutes long
each, only because there's a short film

670
00:50:54.880 --> 00:51:00.639
like it. Trust me, I've
made short films that that are like a

671
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.760
half hour long, and I feel
like, even though I like them at

672
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.960
their length and they tell their story
at their length, that's a long time

673
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.079
to ask for an audience on the
short I think because it's not enough time

674
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:14.280
to develop the character. You know, I don't know, this is a

675
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:17.719
weird length maybe, or maybe these
stories were just kind of slow and I

676
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.159
just wasn't that into them too.
Yeah, because you can tell a complete

677
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:28.079
story in a few minutes. If
you look at movies like Paris tem where

678
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:32.960
that's a love letter to Paris with
dozens of filmmakers, sometimes their stories last

679
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.159
two and three minutes and they're fucking
great. They get in and they get

680
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.199
out. Or twenty two short films
about Glenn Google, Yeah, there you

681
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.559
go, man, there are ways
to do it, and twenty two short

682
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:47.960
films about Springfield. Yeah. This
New York Stories is like, you know,

683
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:54.119
it's you know, it's a pan
too old anthology filmmaking. But it's

684
00:51:54.280 --> 00:52:00.000
about New York in nineteen eighty nine. It should have been dynamic and friends,

685
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.320
it should have been youthful. New
York is youthful. And then the

686
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.960
and it was the go eighties,
you know, like it was bordering nineties,

687
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:12.840
like ordering nineties. It was an
exciting time. This was New York,

688
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.519
the rebirth, the disnification of Times
Square. It was like we were

689
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:21.199
cleaning up. It wasn't the seventies
tenement nightmare anymore. And again I go

690
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.760
back to Spike Lee. There it's
nineteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty nine in

691
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:29.599
New York City. I didn't hear
one hip hop beat. Nope, even

692
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:34.119
possible. How is that even possible? And it's nineteen eighty nine. The

693
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.920
women are still acting like women from
the sixties or something in the movie like

694
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:42.719
it's I don't know, I feel
it's pretty dated. I don't think these

695
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:45.079
guys, none of them are at
the top of their game. I think

696
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.880
they're just collecting a paycheck and trying
some stuff out for their next round of

697
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:54.800
movies. So overall, would you
recommend this man? It's interesting as if

698
00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:00.519
you're a film completist, and want
to see everybody's work complete is only I

699
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.559
agree. Look, if you love
Martin Scorsese, you have to see it.

700
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.800
I'm sorry, but he does interesting
stuff here. Yeah, he does

701
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:08.960
some interesting stuff here, and you
get I think a little bit of a

702
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:14.000
peak into him. Yeah. And
I think as much as I don't like

703
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:15.920
that Nick Nolty character, I liked
him just as much as I'm like Travis

704
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:22.480
Pickle. So that story was well
told and in for me affecting. Heave

705
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:29.039
a giant asshole. Yeah, but
and he's not super charming as it's an

706
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:30.840
interesting character. Just don't see what
kind of you know guy it is.

707
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:35.719
Again. But I'm you know,
I'm of the opinion I wanted to know

708
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.719
more about the assistant, But that
to me was the only one that actually

709
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:45.000
felt like a New York story.
That's pretty interesting because the Little Girl one

710
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.719
could have taken place in London or
Paris, or Los Angeles or San Francisco.

711
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.960
Yeah, it wasn't like the whole
thing was like this magical thing about

712
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.760
Central Park that they you know what
I mean, or the hope it has

713
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.320
to be the plaza in New York. So no, it was kind of

714
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.599
all over the place. And Woody
Allen just assumes that he is New York

715
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:06.880
so we should just go along with
it. But sorry, man, I

716
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.719
need a little more than a shot
of Tavern on the Green, Always Tavern

717
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.760
on the Green. That's where got
it? They went to the Russian tea

718
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:20.960
room in the Coppola One. Yeah, all the bygone eras on just nothing

719
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:24.840
about the Yankees and the Mets.
There was nothing about you know, Times

720
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:30.239
Square. There was nothing about Harlem. There was nothing about you know,

721
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.800
things that make New York special.
There's nothing about NYU and Martin Scorse.

722
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.519
You could have made a movie about
an NYU film student. I would have

723
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:43.920
liked to have seen that. Youthful
Touch was one of the children had in

724
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:47.199
the Life Without Zoe segment has a
folding fan that she's using and it has

725
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:52.280
Keith Haring designs on it. That
stuck out to me right away because everything

726
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:57.400
else felt so old fashioned that seeing
Keith Haring made it immediately current, although

727
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.800
current from fucking forty years ago.
I don't see one Puerto Rican person or

728
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:06.119
one black person in this movie,
and I'm just like, been to New

729
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.559
York. New York is a melting
pot. All these wonderful cultures mixed into

730
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:16.119
one, and there's about these three
rich white people. Well there it is

731
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:22.199
all right until next time. Where
can people reach you? If they're trying

732
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.000
to find you, mister Lapoor,
you can find me at Swamp Media Group

733
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:32.639
on Instagram and threads that. You
can catch us at swampmediagroup dot com or

734
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:39.239
Space Detective Movie dot com. As
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735
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:44.639
at weirdingwaymedia dot com for the content, including midnight viewing Here. Now,

736
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:49.119
listen, we've got midnight viewing of
the Horror Anthology podcast. We've got Midnight

737
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.639
Viewing Anthologues Attack, and now,
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738
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:57.639
have midnight Viewing Weekly round Up.
That one is hosted by me and the

739
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.920
gorgeous and thoughtful Ripley, my pug. So you're gonna be hearing about current

740
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:07.719
events and stuff over there, you
know, less anthology, more actual things

741
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.599
that people can get in an easy
manner. Anyway, Thanks for all,

742
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:15.840
Thank you all for joining us here
at Midnight Viewing Anthologies Attack. Still,

743
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.119
thank you very much. And I
will say this before we go. I

744
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:22.719
think the xenomorph would have never stood
a chance against you or Ripley. That's

745
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:28.679
true, and she does hate aliens, does hate aliens until next time.

746
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:40.960
Until next time, Thanks folks.
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