WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.599 Schwiker, Ganison Krazak Rndio Bradley sponsors to Friday Night Drive. I'm Mike Krizak. 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:07.599 If you've been injured, we are ready to take on the insurance company 3 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:10.839 and get you to the end zone. We've recovered hundreds of millions of dollars 4 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:21.920 for our clients. Visit G A N A S S I N dot com. 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.160 What's up everyone, Welcome back and welcome in to live with Friday Night 6 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:29.440 Drive and the Friday Night Drive Podcast. I am Kyle Neighbors along with Steve 7 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:33.439 SEUSSI. Here it is Thursday, December seventh. We are live on YouTube 8 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:37.039 and the Friday Night Drive Facebook page, and we are here to talk the 9 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:42.079 IHSA district proposal which went to UH, which went to the schools this week, 10 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.920 so vote. They will be voting this week and next week. We'll 11 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.960 find out the results of that right before Christmas time. SEUs, this is 12 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:52.759 not the first time we've had this discussion and a vote on the ISSA district 13 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.079 proposals. UH. This is the second time we've gone through this. The 14 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:00.520 plan was scrapped the first time around. You know, what are you hearing 15 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:04.239 from school so far this week? Well, I think a lot of people, 16 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:08.439 you know, I guess, have expressed appreciation for, you know, 17 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:12.879 the project that I put together, you know, early in this week in 18 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:21.680 regards to mocking up the districts. Because one important component in this process that 19 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:26.599 is different from last time is nor the not the policy submittered, nor the 20 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:34.480 IHSA have any plans to put out what this looks like. So those that 21 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.400 wanted to know more about the process, those that wanted to know how it 22 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:42.719 might look for their individual school and football in general, were kind of out 23 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.439 in the dark on this. They I mean, they had to kind of 24 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:51.280 go on their own gut and you know, trusting that they've interpreted the red 25 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:56.400 proposal the way that they think that they did. So basically, I've got 26 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.599 a lot of feedback from a lot of people talking about how, you know, 27 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.879 we kind of like the way that this looks, or you know, 28 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.959 we don't like the way that this looks, you know, and I think, 29 00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:10.800 you know, there's been a in my mind, there's been a majority 30 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:15.639 of people on the side of we don't like the way that this looks. 31 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:20.240 But I've also heard through the grape vine and talking to a lot of people. 32 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.000 I mean, I think there's I don't know if it's a silent majority, 33 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:27.039 but there are a lot of people that I have not heard from that 34 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:30.919 I know are for this. So I think ultimately we've got a very interesting 35 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:35.439 vote coming our way over the next two weeks. I'm trying to figure out 36 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.000 if I'm insulated being up here in the Northwest suburbs where I know the support 37 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:44.039 for the district proposal is a lot lower and I'm just in an echo chamber. 38 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.680 But I'm not like last time, there was a fair amount of public 39 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.080 support for the district system when we went through this before. I have not 40 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:57.400 come across that at all so far. Suits it's been very overwhelmingly against the 41 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.000 district system. As you said, you think there's maybe not a silent majority, 42 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.879 but a fair amount of people that are our school district that are going 43 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:08.879 to vote for this proposal. Can you kind of walk us through what or 44 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.400 you know those groups that you think will vote in favor of this. First 45 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.400 off, well, I think some of it came down to some of the 46 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:21.000 reason that I believe that is I got some feedback from people at the town 47 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:25.319 meetings that were saying, hey, you know, this town meeting completely against 48 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.759 But there were other town meetings. For example, I heard through the grapevine. 49 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.719 I believe it was in Pontiac. I could be wrong about the location. 50 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.080 That there were sixteen representatives at that town meeting. All sixteen voted in 51 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:44.159 support of putting this on the proposal on the ballot. So that may not 52 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.800 necessarily mean that those schools are going to vote for it in the long run, 53 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.599 but they at least thought it had enough merit to be put on the 54 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:54.680 ballot. So that tells me that in certain areas, yes, there are 55 00:03:54.719 --> 00:04:00.479 people out there that at least support discussing this and put it in putting it 56 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.759 on the ballot to get a better look at it. And that's kind of 57 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:09.479 where it comes down to. I think what it really what it really comes 58 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.759 down to, is that there are a lot of conferences in the state of 59 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:16.360 Illinois where you've got where you go across maybe two or three classifications, you 60 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:20.079 maybe you got a four, A five, a six A conference. You 61 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:23.920 know, a three, A four, a five a conference, and a 62 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:29.040 lot of times not every time. The stacking order, the relative stacking order 63 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:32.360 of how those conferences usually finish out are kind of heavily tied to the size 64 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.639 of the school you will find those four A, five A, six A 65 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:40.279 conferences where it's usually the five and six A conference teams at the top of 66 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:45.720 the conference and the smaller schools at the bottom. And those schools are frankly 67 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.199 not that thrilled about consistently, you know, finding themselves at the bottom of 68 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:55.920 this. So their want is to play schools of similar location, I mean, 69 00:04:55.959 --> 00:05:00.720 a similar enrollment, And I can understand that, and you know, 70 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.160 they want they want the stability of having, you know, it kind of 71 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:10.279 locked in for them not having to worry about you know, hey, what 72 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:14.600 happens if this team, you know, decides to go to a man or 73 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.439 what happens if this team decides to go to another conference and then leaves us 74 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:21.480 with an odd number and a weird date in our schedule that we're gonna have 75 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:27.639 difficulty filling. In some ways, I think that might be a little bit 76 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.519 short sighted, because there's no way that you can guarantee that those kinds of 77 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.639 things won't happen to you. In the district system. Yeah, now there 78 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:39.199 really isn't. You could get to you get to August and two year district 79 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:44.160 members could decide that they don't have enough teams to carry on in the varsity, 80 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.519 you know, the varsity football system. So then you've got two open 81 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.480 dates and absolutely no way to fill them. I mean, are you gonna 82 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:54.279 break up every other district to fill your holes? No, you're not gonna 83 00:05:54.319 --> 00:06:00.240 do that. So I mean it's that logistically when we come down to and 84 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.560 we'll discuss this as we go. I just don't the rigidness of this proposal 85 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:08.879 is a real problem for a lot of people, not just myself, but 86 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:14.839 the fact that you know, set numbers, set things, no no wiggle 87 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.759 room, and that's in you know, travel considerations and all these other things. 88 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:24.160 So there are various reasons, and I understand the schools that are staunchly 89 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:30.199 in support, But like I've said multiple times in this proceeding, are we 90 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.600 fixing problems? Are we shifting problems? Like are the schools that are getting 91 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:38.279 fixed out of this situation? Uh? Yeah, sure they're gonna they're gonna 92 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:42.000 vote for this, But are those problems gone or are they simply being shifted 93 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.720 to different schools that now have to deal with the same problems that other schools 94 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.120 did. And I think there's a lot of shifting and not so much fixing 95 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:54.120 in this proposal. Yeah, so it's a pretty vague proposal. We're gonna 96 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:57.040 get into it. We're gonna compare it to the last time we went through 97 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.000 this compared to this time. We'll look at the mack districts that you can 98 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.079 find right now at Friday Night Drive dot Com at Suit's put together later or 99 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:08.240 earlier this week. You can find Suits on X at the Suits. You 100 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:12.680 can find myself on X at Kyle Neighbors, and you can find Friday Night 101 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:16.040 Drive on X at f and Driver. Also on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok 102 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:21.199 as well, and of course go to Friday Nightdrive dot com all off season 103 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:25.879 long. We got tons of coverage for you guys over there, sus. 104 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:29.879 John is joining us live this morning on Facebook, which again, if you 105 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.279 guys are lied with us on YouTube or Facebook, we really appreciate it. 106 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.920 Subscribe to the channel, leave us a thumbs up. You can jump in 107 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:39.920 and ask a question or leave a comment. John says, this is a 108 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.319 good way to frame it for us here. Suits says, we talked about 109 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:46.279 this a little bit, but with teams switching conferences every year and other schools 110 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.439 getting shoved into conferences at the competition, parody is way off. That said, 111 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:55.160 what's the quick pros con pro con for not doing a district system. 112 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.600 How about let's let's start with the pros quickly. I mean the pros it's 113 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:03.240 to Bill. I mean, you have a situation where you have a locked 114 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.240 in schedule. You don't have to worry about, you know, having to 115 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:13.480 find a week four game, for example, against someone somewhere because your conference 116 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:18.839 has an imbalanced number of teams, and you know, it sets you up 117 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:26.240 in that sense, and there are schools that have problems with that, and 118 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:31.440 with that, in the way that the system is written, you're you're you're 119 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:39.759 at least getting yourself closer to a schedule where you're playing schools of like enrollments. 120 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:45.480 That doesn't necessarily mean it's like competitive level, though I'll try not to 121 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:52.039 get too much into the cons, but it's I think that's attractive to some 122 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:58.399 programs to get themselves in a situation where they're no longer the small fish in 123 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.399 a big pond. It's more or medium sized fish of all the same size 124 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.919 in the same pot. That's that's an attractive situation for some schools. So 125 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:16.519 I think those are the really base positives of this about the cons well, 126 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:22.919 I think you know, there are reasons why schools elect not to schedule other 127 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.840 programs. Some of them might be completely valid, some of them might not 128 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.679 be. But you lose the autonomy of having the choice of the system. 129 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:39.080 If you get placed in a district with you know, schools that you've elected 130 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.440 to not play for years, you don't have a choice. You have to 131 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:48.360 play those schools. The conference system, for whatever flaws it has, allows 132 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:56.000 you to group yourself with teams of you know, like minded philosophies and thoughts, 133 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.000 and you might find some i un you know, pairings that are not 134 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:07.879 great for everybody. But there's no situation districts or conference situation where everyone's going 135 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:13.679 to be perfect and happy with the way that this happens. It's just not 136 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:20.080 going to happen other cons It's not as simple as just saying, oh, 137 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.279 who are the seven two AA teams closest to me, We'll just make a 138 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.720 nice little district out of That doesn't work that way. I mean, all 139 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:33.240 hands have to wash other ones. There's some giant travel breakdowns that come out 140 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.840 of this system, where in the conference system, your farthest opponent might be 141 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.399 an hour away, and but there are systems in this district where all of 142 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:48.879 your opponents are two plus hours away. It's just partly, particularly in the 143 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.480 upper levels where you have only a few of you know, like Class seven 144 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.879 A and eight eight teams in the southern portion of the state. We'll get 145 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:58.240 into that. We will show some of the the mock districts that suits it 146 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.000 put together here in little bit. But yeah, I mean you're gonna have 147 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:05.039 a lot of instances. I see this question from Josh Reich. Josh says, 148 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.720 in a distresses and would in Carbondale will have to travel six hours for 149 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:13.799 every Friday night away game. No, they wouldn't. I mean there are 150 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:18.639 enough. There are enough teams down in the southern portion of state where in 151 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:24.840 their classification where they are they four? I believe they're five in this this 152 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:31.159 mock up where they where they sit in a situation where they have, you 153 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.639 know, teams within an hour and a half two hours of them. They're 154 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:39.799 actually not the extreme example of this. I think the more extreme examples can 155 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:45.759 be considered an eight A where you've got Edwardsville, O'Fallon one of the Belleville 156 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:50.320 schools, where they're coupled with Lockport Manooka and the two Joliet schools. So 157 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:52.720 let's look at that. You're looking at it right now, I mean, 158 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.240 yeah, I got that up on the screen. If you're listening to the 159 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.919 podcast version of this. By the way, I quickly say just want to 160 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.440 say, make sure you go to Friday night. You can see the maps 161 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.080 just out the district. So who's actually mapped out each class when you put 162 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.039 them in here? So like, yeah, you can see those purple dots 163 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.639 all the way down there by Edwardsville and Belleville compared to the rest of class 164 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:15.240 a day. Yeah, So in that situation, you got three teams down 165 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.200 there, you're gonna have to, you know, from the north, You're 166 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.919 gonna have to travel to at least one of those every year, and you're 167 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:24.000 gonna have you know, maybe one or two of those teams coming back to 168 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:28.799 you every single week. Those teams. You know, that's why the conference 169 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:35.080 system, especially in situations like the Southwestern Conference, simply work better because it's 170 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:41.399 a grouping of somewhat similar enrollments kind of all together there. And what you 171 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:48.639 get in here is you get the breaking apart of conferences, stretching those lines 172 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.360 considerably. It's not so bad in some divisions. You look at it on 173 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.919 paper and it's like, okay, that those make sense. But there's a 174 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:03.519 lot of situations when you map teams quickly by classification and geography, where you 175 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:09.039 get little clusters of maybe ten teams and you can't make a ten team district. 176 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.159 You have to make it an eight team district because that's the way that 177 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.320 the system is written. There's no flexibility. And then you get other situations 178 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:24.759 where you were talking about competitive disparity. There's no condition in this particular district 179 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:31.720 proposal for competitive balance. So while the conference system isn't perfect, it tends 180 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:37.960 to start working its way towards you know, stronger teams here, weaker teams 181 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.279 here, and kind of ferreting it out a little bit. Now there are 182 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.200 some outliers, and there are some situations where it's not great, but here 183 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:50.600 it's just throw a dart at the board and see what happens. And there 184 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:56.440 are some really, really bad examples of that, in my opinion, in 185 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:00.480 three to four by Day, where you've got a coup maybe two power houses 186 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:05.480 in a district and six teams that have struggled to put together almost anything. 187 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.159 The really there is there a specific one I can throw up here, so 188 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:16.480 people can go to one A one, okay, all right, and look 189 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:24.879 at District one, and then over the past uh, I believe twenty years 190 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.600 somebody came up with us. In District one, there are twenty two state 191 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:35.600 championships amongst the members of District one. The neighboring district, District two, 192 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:43.360 has two teams that have been okay at the postseason level, Whope Academy and 193 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:48.840 Aurora Christian and Rockford Lutheran has made a few playoff appearances as like a five 194 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:54.039 and five type of team. The remaining teams in District two. The five 195 00:14:54.080 --> 00:15:01.159 remaining teams in District two won a combined four games last season in weak conferences. 196 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.720 So those are neighboring districts. So I remember they're right next to one 197 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:07.919 another. You got twenty two state championships in the one side, You've got 198 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.720 two teams that have made playoff runs, and then a lot of teams that 199 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.919 frankly have really really struggled for quite a while now. So those are the 200 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.120 kinds of things that are really prevalent. There are a couple of the examples 201 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.960 of this, I believe in four A it's actually, yeah, four A 202 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:31.759 with five A with there's one district where Nazareth and Wheat and Saint Francis are 203 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:37.799 in the same district. The other six teams are Chicago Public League squads. 204 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.360 That pull let's pull that up here so people can see here. Yeah, 205 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.240 we're looking at what which class five it's it's five A, Kyle, Yeah, 206 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.120 here we go. District District three. I'm sorry, there's there's three 207 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:52.240 teams outside of the public League, Saint Francis, Glenbard South and Nazareth and 208 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:58.320 then five public league schools there. So you know, and I don't mean 209 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.879 to, you know, pile on the publicly in the situation, but there's 210 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:07.039 been tons of data produced about how they struggle to compete with non public, 211 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.399 non CPL schools, and you know, and then you look at District four, 212 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:18.840 which is right next to it, Saint Lawrence Evergreen Park. Before we 213 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.120 start the season, you can chart them into the playoffs. That's every year 214 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:27.000 there's that is not that is not a balanced district by any shape of the 215 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:33.279 imagination. So and then yeah, look at the district. Yeah, go 216 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:37.320 ahead. So I got two questions for you for two different groups here. 217 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:42.759 Then given this, I have a hard time believing that the Chicago Catholic League 218 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:47.519 East Suburban Catholic Conference those twenty fourteen and I don't even know how many Chicago 219 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:51.120 Public League teams we have at this point. Given what we're seeing on the 220 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:55.639 screen right here, I have a hard time thinking either of those two conferences 221 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:57.960 would want to vote for something like this. Now, before I get into 222 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.559 that, I want to quickly say, well, go back to this. 223 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.160 I want to quickly say, we didn't set this up. What we're looking 224 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:08.680 at here is only a projection from sus Okay, the people that submitted the 225 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:17.480 proposal, the and the Iay, neither side has put together any kind of 226 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:21.759 a proposal of what a district system could look like. So suits went ahead 227 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:26.720 and did that. Caveats there. We're assuming here that the ISSA will find 228 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.359 a way to get to five hundred and twelve teams to make a nice even 229 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:36.200 playing fields where they don't have uneven districts, because that really brings a lot 230 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:37.960 of different things into this, and that's really you know, we're not going 231 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.640 to know that until probably January, February March. It's gonna take a bit 232 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.960 of time for the IHS to figure that out. This is probably the most 233 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.960 likely scenario where they find a way to get this up to five hundred and 234 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.200 twelve team. But that is something to think about here when we're discussing this 235 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.079 in this context. Now, SEUs. With that being said, my question 236 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:59.960 about the Chicago Public League in the Chicago Catholic League, is there a reason 237 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.599 for them to be on board with us? Well, I think you know, 238 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.240 they might come to a group conclusion. They might not if they don't. 239 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.559 I would think if maybe you're, for example, if you're a Chicago 240 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:19.519 Catholic League team that has struggled to make the playoffs in the current conglomeration, 241 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:25.319 I can see how this could be potentially appealing to you. Because I did 242 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.720 it. I did kind of a because this is who I am. I 243 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.279 did kind of a look at it and said, Okay, let's say the 244 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:36.960 system is in place and we're using the districts that I'm proposing. I genuinely 245 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:41.440 believe that all twenty four Chicago Catholic League teams would qualify for the playoffs. 246 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.759 I thought I was wondering about that. I was so that we look at 247 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.599 it and look at it and just you know, throughout the records from this 248 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.359 season, But just say, okay, we're hypothetically replaying the twenty twenty three 249 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.079 system twenty three seasons in this based on what you know about these teams. 250 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:00.400 I believe that every single one of the Chicago Cathol League team would quit for 251 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:06.680 the playoffs traditionally. Is it the Purple division that struggled the most? Uh, 252 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.920 Purple and Red are your two typical ones that don't don't send multiple or 253 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:18.519 any in some cases, So I mean, send any this year. But 254 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:23.000 that's but that I could see how that scenario would be attractive to them, 255 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:30.160 but some of the schedules that they would have to maneuver to get there very 256 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:34.839 unattractive. So uh, you know, almost every single one of them has 257 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:38.240 a schedule where I would be like, really, I mean, do we 258 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:45.440 really want to do this? So I would be surprised if could was was 259 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:51.680 in support of this. Yeah, could you imagine NAZ play Noble Bulls Prep 260 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:56.920 like I t W spear Like that would just be that wouldn't be fun for 261 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:00.880 anyone involved. I mean we talk a lot about, you know, making 262 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:06.160 it more competitive, and there are some scenarios once again that that would make 263 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:10.480 it more competitive for some of these programs. But there are also some of 264 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:15.640 these that are just so, like you would have two or three competitive games 265 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:22.319 in district play as far as at the top of the district all season long, 266 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:27.759 like your entire season would be two games, yeah, where you were 267 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:33.119 competitive and well, so you'd also have so that we're talking eight eighteen districts, 268 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:38.240 so you're talking seven district games and then two games where you'd be free 269 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:45.440 to schedule them yourself. Now I have in this proposal. Is there anything 270 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.960 that shows when those weeks would be? We would it be week one in 271 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.839 week two? Yeah, it's week one and two, you would yeah, 272 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:57.880 I mean basically what the difference One of the significant differences in my mind between 273 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.039 the first proposal and proposal is that those weeks one in two games would be 274 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:10.200 they would count for something. Once you qualify as a top four team out 275 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:14.279 of your district, you then be placed in the bracket on your overall record 276 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:21.039 and playoff points. So there's an advantage to playing you know, better teams 277 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:25.079 in those one or two week games, especially if you beat them, as 278 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:29.160 it would help you get seated higher in the bracket. If you won both 279 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:32.640 of those games and your opponents had decent playoff points. That would help you 280 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.200 up the bracket a little bit. And I think it would encourage teams to 281 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:40.599 say, hey, even if we lose these games, where we can still 282 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.279 get into the playoffs if we've finished in the top four in the district. 283 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:47.960 But the fun thing, I guess the argument point that has come out of 284 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.559 all of this is it'll stop the chase for five wins, which is true, 285 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:57.680 it will stop the chase for five wins, but now you're limiting your 286 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:02.599 schedule, and now you're have a chase for four wins inside of your district, 287 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:04.640 Like you have to figure out how to win four wins in your district, 288 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:08.640 and you have no control over who that district is. So because now 289 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.920 that's ultimately getting in the playoffs, that's all that matters. If you win 290 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:18.920 four games in your district, you're in okay all that. So now the 291 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:25.000 chase becomes winning for in a schedule that you did not create. So what 292 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:29.039 if you end up in a brutal district. I mean there are examples of 293 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:32.720 that. I think that there's one in seven A where seven of the eight 294 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:38.279 projected teams in that bracket we're playoff teams this year. Looks like we got 295 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.799 well, let's see, District two has a bunchet in there. By the 296 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.319 way, any any of the When you look at this here, the teams 297 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:51.000 that are bolded are playoff qualifiers from last year. So that give you a 298 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:56.119 little idea here. Yeah, yeah, some stack districts in here. Yeah. 299 00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:59.599 So, I mean that's that's what it really comes down to, is 300 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:03.599 that they're ours. I mean, and you're in there. You can't waste 301 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.200 nothing. I can't wait to watch Mount Carmel versus Argo. You could be 302 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.319 a you could be a fifth place team in one of these conferences or districts 303 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:18.640 and be a really good football team and and you have no chance of making 304 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.440 the playoffs. So I mean you could be behind. You know, uh, 305 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.960 it's the same situation. Now. I guess you could be in a 306 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.640 really strong conference and that could hurt you. But I think there are certain 307 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.559 situations where some of these are just really stacked. I'm sorry that I can't 308 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.680 remember specifically which one we were talking about here. It's obviously not one of 309 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:40.720 these, but there is one in this projection where there are seven of them. 310 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.960 There's another one where there's just one. So I mean that's kind of 311 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.640 where we're at, so it becomes, uh, it just becomes this kind 312 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:55.400 of really choppy situation. And I mean I look at District five for example, 313 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:57.440 on what you have pulled up on that screen right now. Oh my 314 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:00.920 gosh, I meant it. You know, three of those teams didn't make 315 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:07.279 the playoffs this year, but historically they all have all eight of those all 316 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:11.759 eight of those programs. If you looked over the last five years, there's 317 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.799 a heck of a lot of playoff bids in there and a lot of playoff 318 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.759 wins like that. That's kind of where I'm looking at right here. And 319 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:25.359 you know, and then I mean you can look over not to mention that 320 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:30.119 the travel that we're talking about, but there's a lot of historic playoff teams 321 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:32.880 in District eight too. So not only that, to travel all over the 322 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:36.079 place, I got to play a bunch of good football teams. So I 323 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:41.119 mean, it's just like I said, there's no contention for this, Like 324 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:47.200 there's no there's no system to kind of balance this. And and to be 325 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.559 honest with you, eight day is one of the other than the really bad 326 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:57.839 travel thing that is that is one that I actually think isn't that bad ye 327 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:03.160 like, and guards to kind of balancing it a little bit obviously heavy in 328 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:08.960 District five, a little heavy in District eight. But yeah, so but 329 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.599 you'll see that all through this is that you'll have some that are heavy, 330 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:18.000 some that are light, and there's no consideration for how to how to try 331 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:23.039 to balance that. Let's see Zachary Shimman checking in this morning, a regular 332 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.880 on Live with Friday Night Drive. He says, do you see a situation 333 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.519 where the IHSA could allow schools to vote on who would be in their district? 334 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.039 Zeus, Nope, I don't see any scenario where that would be. 335 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:38.000 That would be something that they would put on out for consideration, because that 336 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:44.200 would become disaster. The nicest, the nicest thing that the nicest word I 337 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.880 could use to describe it would be a hellscape like it would be there. 338 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.359 It would just be because one of the things that I think is interesting about 339 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.640 the underlying situations here is that I'm not going to get into this debate right 340 00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.640 now because we could go for another two hours. But a lot of another 341 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.640 thing that come up heavily in this offseason and always does, is the private 342 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:08.279 versus public debate. And now, if you are a school that doesn't really 343 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:15.200 want to deal with playing privates bad too bad. Essentially, Yeah, not 344 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:17.640 only do you have to deal with them in the playoffs, and you're gonna 345 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.039 have to deal with in the playoffs because they're gonna be even more prevalent in 346 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.640 this system. Now you got to deal with them in the regular season too, 347 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.279 and they're determining whether or not you even get into the playoffs. So 348 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.960 like that, for me, if I'm somebody who's on you know, that 349 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.480 is on that one side of the fence or the other, this is not 350 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.680 going to help you in the private versus public situation. If you go to 351 00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:44.960 districts, it just simply isn't. You might get lucky and you might be 352 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.279 not placed in a district with them, but you might get placed in a 353 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.960 district with several of them. It's just it's kind of almost kind of the 354 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.000 luck of the draw. Do we have any idea how often the districts would 355 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:03.000 be examined and re reconfigure? Well, I believe this is how I interpret 356 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.519 it. Could not. I could be way off on this, But they 357 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:11.279 still plan to use the issa's two year enrollment periods to calculate this. So 358 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:17.799 if the district proposal went into play, we would have one year before the 359 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.559 enrollment numbers would switch because next year is the second year of the enrollment period. 360 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.799 So after next year, you'd get new multipliers factored in, you'd get 361 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:32.519 new success formulas factored in. The new enrollment numbers would come in, you 362 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:37.599 know, for everybody, So schools would go up and down. Co Op 363 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:44.079 arrangements would possibly change. I've already heard about one school that's considering dropping their 364 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.279 co op, which would change their enrollment number, and that's something that a 365 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:53.319 lot of people aren't talking about. Any adjustments to enrollments for anyone can heavily 366 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:57.319 alter this. Yeah, I mean, because if you have one school that 367 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:02.720 drops drops a COD and goes from being in three A to two AA, 368 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.799 you have to find a way to ferret that team into two A and then 369 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.160 take out a team from three A and move them or take out a team 370 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.279 from two A to move them back up. And that may cause every single 371 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.759 one of the drawn districts to change because you might have to move this team 372 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.440 into District two and this team into District four to make up for it, 373 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:29.119 and everything could be changing. So that's why I think and the ISSA is 374 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.599 taking a lot of heat for this, but that's why they're not producing a 375 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.440 mock on this, because there are far too many variables that they just don't 376 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.440 know right now, so that for them to put out something like similar to 377 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.599 what I did, and I'll readily admit this may only be seventy five percent 378 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.440 accurate in the long run, but I felt like seventy five percent accuracy was 379 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:56.000 better than blind faith. So that was kind of why I undertook this project. 380 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.480 Was because natural curiosity was the heaviest factor in this, but I felt 381 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.319 like we needed to have something to kind of eyeball it and say, hey, 382 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:11.319 because how I got to five twelve could be completely wrong, and let's 383 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.079 quickly how did you get to five twelve? Well, moving into it, 384 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.759 you have to start with the fact that, with all things considered, we 385 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:25.799 have five hundred teams available to put into this that were playoff eligible last year, 386 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.200 So you need twelve more, all right. So there are twenty four 387 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:34.640 teams in the Chicago Public League that are currently not playoff eligible. So those 388 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.720 are in four divisions of six teams each. So basically what I did is 389 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.079 I looked at last year's records and took the top three teams from each of 390 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.359 those four divisions to give me twelve teams and put them into the draw. 391 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.640 That's what I did. So I could be wrong about that, And it's 392 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.279 very important to note the twelve teams that I put in the enrollment numbers that 393 00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:02.400 they currently carry, because because if there are a different twelve teams or a 394 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.079 different I got eight of them right, four of them wrong. Well, 395 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:11.160 what enrollment numbers are those guys at? It might be two of the teams 396 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.920 that I put in that are not in our four A teams and the two 397 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.559 teams that are coming in instead are two A teams. So then that pushes 398 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:21.440 teams up, it pushes teams down, It changes all the districts around. 399 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:26.079 Literally, I talk a lot during our current playoff system how one team in 400 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.920 one A can affect teams in eight A. Well, I mean this is 401 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:36.400 a really classic scenario of that. How one team can affect just have a 402 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:41.880 cat skating effect on like fifty or sixty different things. If you just consider 403 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.039 that fact, you have one enrollment change that switches classes all over the place. 404 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.680 Let's see here going back to kind of the co op and eight man 405 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.880 talk, because this will play heavily into this as well. Adam Anderson, 406 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.319 another regular here online with Friday Night Driving the Friday Night Drive Podcast, said, 407 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.119 what about schools dropping co ops to have smaller enrollment ethics or exploring a 408 00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.680 man I've heard this is a bit have heard this a bit down in central 409 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:11.480 southern Illinois, and what are if it's been going going around up there now? 410 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:17.039 To my understanding, while there's nothing that the ISSA can do about a 411 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.000 team deciding to move from eleven to eight man football, so that's a variable 412 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:26.079 that they cannot control. To my understanding, when you sign a co op 413 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.240 arrangement in the current system, you're saying I'm going to do this for two 414 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:38.319 years. That's what my comprehension of that rule. So I don't think teams 415 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:44.160 in current coop arrangements can drop out of them this year for this system. 416 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.319 I could be wrong about that, but that's my interpretation of the situation. 417 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.240 But yes, I have heard I want to say, three to five programs 418 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:57.519 that are considering either altering or dropping their co op altogether in a way to 419 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.079 you know, for whatever reason. But I think one of the factors for 420 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.240 doing that is to try to get their enrollment number as small as possible. 421 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.720 What benefit is there to doing that? I mean, there are co op 422 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.640 programs right now that I could look at the list and tell you if they 423 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.000 drop their co op that they may or may not be getting a lot of 424 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.759 benefit from. They would go from being a three A program to a one 425 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.640 A or a two A program, a two A program to a one A 426 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.839 program. Because all this system has currently drawn is who are the sixty four 427 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.880 smallest? That is, who goes into one A. So if you can 428 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.079 get yourself down into one of those numbers, then you can get yourself into 429 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.400 one A. And the other ripple to that is, and I've was talking 430 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:49.880 to someone about this before, is by drawing them and clean sixty four lines. 431 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.440 If you start before the season starts and just look at Okay, we're 432 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.640 going to go from the small school, look at them, and then just 433 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:02.359 go down the list. Usually you'll have to go about eighty deep to get 434 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.480 thirty two playoff teams on that list. So think about that for a minute, 435 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:15.119 and that number decreases as you go down. So now the pool for 436 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:21.119 a one A playoff bracket used to include eighty teams. Now it includes sixty 437 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:28.680 four. So there's going to be more opportunity in the district system for a 438 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:35.079 program that maybe has struggled to get one of those spots because now they're only 439 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:42.920 competing against the sixty four smallest. So someone the bids have to go to 440 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.240 thirty two of those sixty four teams. That's the way the system works. 441 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:52.319 So you know there there's going to be eight to ten teams that usually are 442 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.759 not in this playoff discussion in one A that now are going to have a 443 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.079 much richer opportunity to reach the playoffs just because of the way the math works. 444 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:06.519 Conversely, it starts to go the other way when you get up to 445 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:14.400 six and seven and even into eight, because the numbers have to come from 446 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:17.159 somewhere. If you created seven bids for teams in one A, where does 447 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.360 seven bids go, Well, they start getting pushed out of the larger classifications. 448 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:28.440 So school like you could have thirty six or thirty seven schools in five 449 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.159 or six A that are usual playoff teams. Well, there's only thirty two 450 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:37.480 spots. So the correct the course correction there has to come from somewhere, 451 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:44.119 and by doing it with this math, it comes in five and six A. 452 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.079 All right, So if we got to get out of here soon. 453 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.320 We've hit every question in comment in the chat that we have so far. 454 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.119 If you guys have anything else you want us to discuss, though, go 455 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.239 ahead and throw that in the next couple minutes. Sus, How would the 456 00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:01.239 multiplier and success formula play into the districts? I mean, the one thing 457 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:07.800 about this that I think is attractive to the people that support it is you 458 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:14.039 go into the season and you know what classification you are. So if you 459 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.760 are choosing to play up to six A, that's simply guaranteeing, like it 460 00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.079 is now that you're in six A, but everyone else knows that you're also 461 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.760 going to be in six A, and you know that you're going to be 462 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.639 in six A. So I think what it might ultimately lead to is some 463 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:34.840 interesting machinations between teams that are saying, hey, I might just play up. 464 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.480 I mean you'll be because so you'll have to decide a lot earlier if 465 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:42.280 you're going to play up though, right because like right now, like we've 466 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.960 had teams in August be like I want to play up in like six A 467 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.960 or seven A, right, I mean, the p it will have to 468 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.039 be declared much earlier in the calendar because as I understand it, and at 469 00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.599 least the way that the proposal is written, and I don't know how, 470 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:02.119 I don't know what this number is, that we would probably have districts if 471 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:10.679 this passes, probably in March, and then with the with all the machinations 472 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.079 that have to go through it, teams that are playing. The reason that 473 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.039 we would have them and they would be kind of locked in stone is we 474 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.559 already know who's playing up next year and we can't change that because when you 475 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.519 play up in a two year period, you are saying, hey, two 476 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:30.719 year period. So Rita at Saint Louis, whether we're in a district system 477 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:32.960 or not, Saint Rita's the seven A school eas St. Louis is a 478 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.000 six A school that's already declared Sacred Griffin is the only one facing the success 479 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:42.559 formula. They're five A school. So none of that stuff changes because that's 480 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.800 all based on the two year period, So there will be no changes with 481 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.719 that. The only way that that those things would change would be if we 482 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.360 voted this in and we're still using it in the twenty twenty five season. 483 00:36:54.760 --> 00:37:00.000 Then you would get the new multipliers, the new applications for teams choosing to 484 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.239 play up. The new co op arrangements, the new whatever, all those 485 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.639 new numbers would be implemented for twenty five Nothing in the nothing in the new 486 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:14.599 enrollment sheet would change for twenty four nothing. Do you think that's a mistake 487 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:15.719 not to just say, if we're going to go to a new system, 488 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.719 let's just get everything on the same page now. Or is it better to 489 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:24.360 maybe have a one year where it's like, all right, let's let's reset 490 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:28.960 it when we normally would. We'll just see how this plays out this year, 491 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.039 you know what I'm asking? Yeah, I do, And I kind 492 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.320 of think that this actually is the right way to go with this, because 493 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.840 then you're not throwing it. You're not throwing open the doors and creating even 494 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:45.440 more variables. Like I said, if you if you put something out and 495 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.679 say, okay, hey, now you still have the option to make changes 496 00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:57.119 here, then that creates a whole another layer of problems that you have to 497 00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.320 calculate your way through. Maybe you get two more teams that say, hey, 498 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:01.400 I want to play, I don't like the way this looks. I'm 499 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.719 gonna play up and take my chances like I don't. I don't like I 500 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.119 don't like the feel of that because I think it might be utilized. Someone 501 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.760 might say, Hey, I don't like this district. I'll just take sense, 502 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:14.719 so only for one year. I'll just say I'll play up to six 503 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.239 A. See what the dice roll says, like that's that. That's what 504 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.880 I'm saying. It wouldn't be for one year. I'm just wondering if it 505 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.440 just makes more sense to just start a new two year enrollment period now if 506 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.519 you're going to go to a different sea, although I guess you can't cause 507 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.320 you have to have it. Do you have to have a match up for 508 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.960 every sport you can't? Like, like I said, there would be there'd 509 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.480 be no way that we could go and say, okay, refigure multipliers do 510 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.480 all this, like the that isn't part of this proposal, right, you 511 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:46.519 would have you would have to you'd have to make an amendment saying we want 512 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.840 to get rid of two year enrollment, we want to go back to one 513 00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:52.239 and that and that would have to be for everybody. So I don't think 514 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.719 there would be any way that they could do that. I think that the 515 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.960 interesting situation would be, like I strongly believe that if this gets past, 516 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.159 then next year's legislative bout will have a proposal on it to go back to 517 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.079 the current system. I believe. I believe that, I think and then 518 00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.920 that probably and if it doesn't pass, I think we'll have some sort of 519 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.599 modified district proposal in next year's legislative program. That's what I believe. I 520 00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:23.840 think this is something that we're gonna conversate on and unless unless it it just 521 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.400 gets stomped in the vote, and then maybe it maybe it goes away. 522 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.960 But I don't think that's gonna happen. So, I mean, but I 523 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.719 think this is this is a conversation that isn't going away. It just is 524 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:39.760 not going away. I mean, I really think that all parties need to 525 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:49.000 get into a room on this and start hashing out a more fleshed out potential 526 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.880 solution to this. I agree, like it's I'm not I'm not against the 527 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.760 dissert system. I just want, like, if you're gonna do it, 528 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.639 you need to have a lot more succinct proposal like it. There's just so 529 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:06.079 many variables that we don't know that you're asking schools to vote on. Because 530 00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:09.159 I have and I mean, this is the I have one that's been kicking 531 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.000 around in my head for a while. Now, I can't submit a proposal, 532 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.519 but the one that I've been kicking around in my head I like a 533 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:21.760 lot better than the one that's out there right now. Obviously I create it, 534 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:23.599 so of course I do. But I've shown it to a few people 535 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:29.440 and people like it, but I can't submit it. Like, and I 536 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.559 know I'm showing it to people that I think are probably of like mind, 537 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:38.320 but but I just think there's just so many holes in this proposal, and 538 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:44.480 I just I'm really really uncomfortable with putting something in there that just has so 539 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:51.039 many variables out there that that is are Not that I have anything against them, 540 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:58.119 but they're just leaving an awful lot to the issa's discretion here just and 541 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.239 and I know they're not sitting there, you know, rubbing their fingers together 542 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.039 like villains and going, oh boy, look at what we get to do. 543 00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.880 This is largely shoved into a computer and said, spit it out for 544 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.000 me. And that's part of my problem too, Like they're like what the 545 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:17.079 computer comes out with, They're not going to argue when they're not going to 546 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.199 analyze. They're just gonna say this is what we put the factors in the 547 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:22.920 computer, This is what the map spit out. This is what we got, 548 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:25.880 which it really is. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know 549 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.760 if there's another way to do it, though, because then you start bringing 550 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.760 in like human bias, like do you want people at the IHSA to manually 551 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.719 change what the computer spits out? Because yeah, how is that any different 552 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.000 than a conference system if you thought, well, like, this team isn't 553 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:44.159 going to be competitive in this district, or like you know, like you 554 00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.519 know, like when I entered the districts, I intentionally but the problem with 555 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.559 this is I know where everything is. But I intentionally took the labels off 556 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:59.079 because I didn't want any sort of bias in my mind saying hey, I 557 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.400 don't want to put those guys in that district because that'll make it too strong. 558 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:06.559 But I know where everything is, so I have an unconscious bias to 559 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.039 be like, you know, Okay, I don't want to put them there, 560 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:13.360 and I didn't try to do that. But what you would need in 561 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.920 that situation is to bring someone who has no idea what who any of these 562 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:22.480 schools are, put the sixty four dots on the map and say divide them 563 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.920 into groups of eight, like that would be the only that would be like 564 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.400 and I guess that's what the computer is doing because it doesn't have any biases. 565 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:35.360 But I've seen some of the squirrely decisions that computer has made in the 566 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.280 past too. You want to talk to somebody, You want to talk to 567 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:43.960 somebody about, like how basketball sectionals are put together. Sometimes talk to those 568 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.719 people and they will, they will, they will, they will put up 569 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.719 that it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Conspiracy theory to shame, like just pointing 570 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:59.440 around and tinfoil hat and like, you know, it's idea isn't perfect either. 571 00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:01.880 We launched Friday Night Drive back in twenty nineteen and won. The first 572 00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.719 story, as we posted was I had went down with the to the IHSA 573 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.000 and done a mapping exercise with them, and they actually showed me the old 574 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.480 way they used to do it with the rubber bands, as I have one 575 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.400 in my hand, Like they literally put pins on the board and rubber band 576 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.079 teams in with the sectionals where they were going and stuff. It's a wild 577 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:21.840 way they used to do things before the computer system. They used to do 578 00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.159 the football playoffs that way too. I actually went and watched it one time, 579 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:30.280 really a really long time ago, and I mean it was fascinating to 580 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.599 watch, but I was like, as I'm watching, I'm like, this 581 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:36.639 makes no sense. There has to be a better way to do this. 582 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.280 I mean, granted this was in like nineteen ninety four or something, but 583 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:44.400 I'm like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. But yeah, so 584 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.199 it's like I said, there's there's really no there's no clean way to do 585 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.760 it. Like I said, the computer probably is the fairest solution. I'm 586 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.760 just saying that the computer sometimes fits out some oddities too. All Right, 587 00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.039 Sez, we gotta get out of here. I'm gonna throw it back to 588 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.639 you one more time. Though, we got this voting process goes through the 589 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.559 end of next week. Correct, it does go through the end of next 590 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.760 week, we should have. I believe the voting closes on the eighteenth, 591 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:14.079 and I've been told that the results would be released on the nineteenth, So 592 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.559 a quick condition on that though, Like I said, if this goes through, 593 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.960 don't expect all of a sudden you're just gonna get a resolution on this. 594 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:27.760 I mean I've gotten I've talked to multiple people that have told me it's 595 00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.320 going to take a while, and it should because they're just there are a 596 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.280 lot of variables that are written into this right now that we don't know the 597 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:38.559 answers to and we're not going to get them overnight. So I honestly think 598 00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:44.800 the earliest that we would see the actual districts mark and see mockups of team 599 00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:46.960 schedules would be March if this passes. Really, that's what I really believe. 600 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.920 It's part of the reason right now why I haven't even started the process 601 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:57.039 of trying to put together what would be a normal twenty twenty four schedule drive 602 00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.480 of file. And to be honest with you, yeah, I was going 603 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.639 to ask you that usually you've already got schedules typed in for about a quarter 604 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.159 of the teams. I haven't even started that yet. I would say, 605 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:10.239 usually i'd be at twenty five or thirty thirty percent and annoying people to give 606 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:15.400 me more because I want answers. But I haven't even started that process. 607 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.679 I have not even even opened up the spreadsheet file. Because while I'm I'm 608 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.639 not I'm not an enemy of pointless work. I'm just like, well, 609 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:29.559 if this passes, this is this is going to render this whole completely moot, 610 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.199 and it does take me of a very long time to do. So 611 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:35.480 I'm just like, I'm not going to I'm not going to start this until 612 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.360 I know that it's actually for a purpose. So, you know, except 613 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.679 I I don't know how this is going to go. I think it's going 614 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.360 to be a close vote. It's a it's an interesting topic. I can 615 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:46.960 climb down a wormhole and talk about it for hours, but I know that 616 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:52.960 we're not going to do that. So but it's it's it's layered, and 617 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.519 I get the people that support it. I just think that there are just 618 00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:01.679 too many variables in this thing to a special have it go into play for 619 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:07.360 twenty twenty four. It just it just seems like we're we're really we're really 620 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:15.599 pushing something really hard into a very small window that needs a lot more discussion 621 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.239 and clarity before we should move forward with it. All right, Well, 622 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.719 make sure you stick to Friday Night Drive dot com over the next ten days 623 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.840 or so, we're gonna have a lot of coverage of this vote. And 624 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.639 one more time, make sure you subscribe to shall Locals YouTube page. Do 625 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.480 us a favor, uh subscribe to the channel. 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