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What is going on? Everyone?
Welcome to another episode of Conspiracy or just

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a coincidence. I am Jack Allen. If you're not following me, Echo

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Jack Podcast. But I am very
excited for tonight's guests. You know,

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being in this world or whatever,
you recognize people who actually put in so

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much time and effort and research as
opposed to people that just say these crazy

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things that sound great but just also
make us look foolish. Johnny is obviously

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not one of those guys. He's
one that puts in so much time and

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effort into research and studying these connections. So I'm excited to have him on.

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Johnny Welcome. How are you doing
today, buddy? Yo, Jack

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Man, I'm really happy to be
on. I'm really really happy to be

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here, and thanks for the kind
words. Like I do spend a lot

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of time with my nose on the
grindstone, try trying to get ahead of

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everything and trying to get trying to
work out what's going on. Yeah,

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yeah, well, and so how
long are you because how long you been

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doing this like this researching and all
exposing all this. Yeah, I mean

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I started research and I think for
all researchers it's hard to know when because

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you automatically kind of become a research
or you're not. You you want to

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know more, so you go and
read one article, you go read another

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article, you go read another article, and then at some point you leave

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the articles and you go somewhere else
and you go look at a little bit

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more information than a little bit more. And then suddenly you find like databases

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and archives which then you could troll
through, and then you find like you're

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looking for things. You know,
it doesn't start off with you looking for

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conspiracies or stuff. You're looking for
other things. And then you get to

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loose, you know, learn how
to use all the technology and rue.

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And it was for me it was
about two thou fifteen. I was having

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like a bit of a spiral in
my life. I was a musician.

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I had spent a lot of years
being ill. I was on drugs.

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I was hooked up. I had
got up to morphine, like I had

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people who were feeding me really heavy
drugs, and I was going out.

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I was like I was, I
was out of here. Two thousand and

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fifteen. I was like checked out, I am going to kill myself,

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like this is it. And then
I reached a point where I was like,

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Okay, well I really do actually
want to do that. I really

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do want to get get out of
this because I hate it all. And

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so I went up to the hillsides
in Wales and I picked a load of

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Welsh magic mushrooms, loads of Welsh
magic mushrooms. And I spent three months

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basically saying, Okay, I'll spend
three months tripping because I mean, if

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I'm going to die anyway, then
you know all the warnings that don't make

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no difference anyway, and I'll like
investigate my mind inside outside darkness, sit

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there, meditating, learned about myself, and I was trying, and I

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got to the point where I realized, well, if I'm going to die,

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and it made it all go out
shooting, picking and and really I

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knew what was deep down, what
was the problem inside me. I had

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so much I wanted to say,
And what you said at the beginning is

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really important. You know loads of
people, and I wanted to be that

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person who was saying stuff and it
meant something to somebody. But anything I

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said at that point would be vacuous. You know. I could talk about

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something I knew, but it would
just be I wouldn't care about it because

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all of the things I knew I
didn't really care about. I didn't have

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a passion for them. I felt
I felt like a great like lots of

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people, like an emptiness, and
I knew where. I knew where I

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needed to go. I knew where
the direction was, and I got on

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a wave. I've talked about this
a lot with people, you know,

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I got on a comic wave.
I said. I had loads of troubles.

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I mean, the reason why I
got to that space in my head

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was, you know, I had
been groomed by a pedophile when I was

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young. My my my my who
like childhood had been a mixture of physical

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abuse, chological abuse, and had
I had kind of been ill from when

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I was thirteen with something called Graves
disease. It was undiagnosed. That was

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twenty seven and I was almost down. I had all these troubles and all

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these issues, but at the end
of the day, I knew that the

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real thing I was running away from
was the truth of everything. Realizing,

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you know, I had got to
a point I realized something. I had

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to find something really obvious about myself
during this time that if I didn't know

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something I was scared to look,
and I think loads of us feel like

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that, and we'd give into that. It's like it's like given in to

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greed or the it's like not examining
your own ego because it's so fucking scary.

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It's so so scary to look at
yourself properly. And you know that

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if you examine others, the moment
you examine others, you project that examination

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back onto yourself. And then you
start studying yourself. And then you feel

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really bad because you're too busy,
you're judging other people. And then you

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realize at some point, oh god, i'm judging that person, but I'm

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doing the same thing. And then
you know, what you learn is that

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by studying others, you become better
yourself. But you don't want to become

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better at the start, because your
fear change. You fear that you'll lose

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yourself, your fear that you'll become
someone else, that you'll go on a

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journey and you won't be able to
turn back from it, and you'll get

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on the wave. And once you're
on the wave, there ain't no getting

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off the wave. The wave pushes
you along. And I've been like I've

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been since two fifteen sixteen, I've
been I hopped on the wave, I

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didn't get off, and it's been
mad. My life has been crazy.

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It's got crazier and crazier, and
I'm you know, I have moments of

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synchronicity every week where everything just like
I'm able to go and talk to someone,

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suddenly something happens that means I can
help them, or I can do

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something that benefits somebody else, And
that is my life now. I kind

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of just keep stepping forward to the
next thing and stepping forward. I have

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these conversations. I know, I
know, I feel like I'm not a

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religious man, but I do believe
that there's a similarity between my idea of

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what the universe is, what karma
is, what the wave I'm on is,

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what truth is, and everything that
religious people, you know, teach

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and learn is so much similarity.
They're basically these same things. Just there's

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no infrastructure to what I believe.
It's just the feeling, the understanding truth,

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love, goodness, and knowledge.
Just taking all of the knowledge and

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see what that says about yourself.
Then and after a while you learn yourself

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so well that you no longer have
to look at yourself and then you can

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see the information. And I just
want to say one more little thing for

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it. Yeah, man, there
was something that that happened with researching for

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all budding researchers or whatever or writers, you know. I learned this process

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where I go in and I drag
net information. So I take all of

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the information I can find about any
one subject, I put in chronological order,

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and I put it down on tape
paper. I basically link it up

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so people can understand it. But
basically I'm just giving them a straight fact.

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But for me, at first trying
to go through that process, I

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had so much ego, so much
emotional experience that affected how I viewed the

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subjects that I was researching. And
they're always bad people, so you'll always

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feel like you want to judge them
anyway. But I knew that I had

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to like get out of that frame
of mind. And slowly, what I've

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discovered is that now what I do
is I spend a day or two days

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hate rage researching whatever I'm doing,
and then it all goes so at some

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point she enters like this, it
becomes everything is viewed stoically from an exterior

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view. I'm just suddenly I'm no
longer like emotionally attached to all these things,

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and I can go right, and
now I can really examine a subject.

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And that was only after all of
those things, all of that journey,

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all of those sort of like the
culmination of all this experience and letting

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go of certain parts of my own
sort of like and like I said,

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I keep saying the word ego,
and it really is. It's like,

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you know, you examine information from
your own perspective, or you have to

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lose your own perspective at some point, and your perspective is viewed through this

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prism of your own independent identity,
which is so obviously attached to the ego

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and the idea of the ego.
So now that's where I got to.

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Now now I study information. I
look at information, and I'm able to

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put it in chronological order and wap
it out there. And but go,

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wow, you're doing something that no
one does anymore. And yeah, it

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seems so simple, But there was
a whole like a litany of tragedy,

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right you happened for me to understand
how simple everything is. High dude,

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I love it. That's a that
was a beautiful sentiment. So since you

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started because I was also I was
a heroin addict, so I was like

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you for a long time. But
in so since you kind of start being

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really heavily research in twenty fifteen,
is it just our perspective that things have

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just gotten like infinitely crazier these last
three years or has it acts like,

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have you also noticed this just uptick
of insanity? Yeah, I think it's

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an exponential growth in insanity. It
just keeps going up. It really kicked

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off. I would personally say that
it started around two thousand and eight to

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two and ten. You could feel
since something was different, like the leash

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had been taken off politically. And
then the next like three four five years,

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you saw this introduction of these new
characters on the scene that were almost

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like um the like a formed Hegelian
dialectic being formed, you know, manifest

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in creating the Jeremy Corbyn in the
UK, the Victor Orban in Hungary,

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the Donald Trump in America, the
creation of the counter narrative so that the

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establishment that was losing had had the
enemies so that they could be the heroes

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again and they could say, look
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And then so so all of these
things had a cycle. So you

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had like a four year cycle where
they changed, like like I say two

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and ten to twenty and fourteen,
where they started to change that sort of

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narrative started to say, Okay,
we got to paint ourselves as a hero

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sumhow because we're so so not so, we need a load of enemies.

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The creation of the enemies, then
the slander of the enemies that took.

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I mean that's for people in Britain
as well. I mean you had in

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America, you had Trump and etc. In Britain we had that so heavily

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with Corbyn. It was twenty sixteen, seventeen eighteen. He was just saying

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the nastiest things about him and doing
and then we had these Brexit things.

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But all of these things were like
everything was getting crazier and crazier, and

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it was like exponential growth of craziness, constantly going up. And when it

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hit you know, and I think
we everybody kept saying, oh a gender

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twenty twenty one or twenty we're getting
there. Wait, wait, we're getting

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there now, and people did really
realize what that meant, and it really

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did. It does seem that from
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a complete rollout of a new ideology, a transhumanist ideology, a way to

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change things for the future. The
the the agenda that they wanted to enact

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has started in twenty twenty one,
just as I said it was, and

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they aimed to get most of it
done and sealed off by twenty thirty.

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And I think we're only going to
see this like increase and increase and increase.

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So so the next like seven years
are gonna be nuts. It gonna

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be nuts. I don't think we'll
we even recognize the human race to an

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extent afterwards, because they will have
messed around with it and forced us apart

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so much. So, Yeah,
that's what I that's what I see.

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But that's my own personal view from
all of the going. What's so I

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like struggle with this all the time, this the war and like Ukraine because

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I flip flop back and forth between
all these people are all owned by the

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same bankers or whatever, like is
this just all k fave you know,

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WWE what's your take on is this
Ukraine war? Are we actually antagonists with

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Russia? You know? I always
bring up I don't know if you ever

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read Anthony Sutton's Boy or is that
Wall Street trilogy? But he brings up

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how the Soviet Union and the Bolshevik
Revolution all couldn't have happened without American and

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German capitalist bankers. So you know
who's really an enemy? So what's what

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do you think is Ukraine? Russia? Is this a real bad our people?

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You know, what do you think's
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think this is still What you've got
to realize is that the style of warfare

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is nessar is probably different from the
prevailing agenda of the time, and they

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come from two different times and two
different agendas. So the style of warfare

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is the overarching fear of mutually a
short destruction with underneath perpetual limited warfare,

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warfare that has planned to go on
forever. And you see it. I

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mean it's very very very describable with
Ukraine because you have like a Russian unit

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retreats and any Ukrainian rap into the
area, and then the Russians move into

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an area in the Ukrainians quickly retreat
and then backwards and forwards. Now,

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this was kind of agreed on by
American and Russia through a load of after

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Kissinger wrote Nuclear War and Foreign Policy
in nineteen fifty seven. By nineteen fifty

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eight, they were publicly talking about
the ideas that he brought up in There

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any idea of saying to the Americans, listen, we don't want to use

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these big nuclear weapons like you're developing. I mean, eventually, within a

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few years from then, Russia would
develop the massive, the biggest nuke to

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ever be go off. We don't
want to do that because that's no good

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for we all die, So we
don't want to play that game. What

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we got to do is agree to
have a basically a smaller, limited nuclear

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warfare. We don't want to use
a big sticks, will use smaller nukes.

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Again, beans to each other,
and if we can agree on that,

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then we can get on with it. You know, John Foster Dullus

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was saying this out loud in nineteen
fifty eighties, like in newspapers. I

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covered this, Like in newspapers they're
saying, you know, we can't fight

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you. But in that newspaper article
I'm referring to, they were saying,

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but the Russians won't listen to us. The Russians still want to play with

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their big sticks. But the Russians
were as as scared as the Americans were.

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So what the what the Russians did
was eventually get on board. What

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happened through the sixties and the seventies
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naughties too. Now we see the
same thing happen perpetual limited warfare, constantly

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going Vietnam warfare. That was Kissingers
war. Yeah, and then it had

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already been developed and practiced before.
But then you're talking like, oh god,

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every single conflict Afghanist that first Afghanistan, first, second Afghanistan, but

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all of it is perpetual limited warfare. It's Kissinger war. So it's not

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meant to win, it's not meant
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in the minds of us, the
peaceful folk. So we will accept whatever

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they say, and we will say
see them as a savior on whichever side

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we are. And they're playing the
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mean, the words they will use
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the Americans will use to their populations, and the bridge will use to their

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populations. And it's a safe,
agreed upon strategy. And if you look

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at them. I was on Russian
Federal TV documentary the other day talking yeah,

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yeah, talking about Kissinger. They
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International Seminar Harvard and how cloud Swab
came to power, because of course that

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fits their narrative. But I was
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was running the fifties and sixties out
of Harvard and was a training program to

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bring up young global leaders and was
really and what what Kaid Schwab went from

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and Claishwab would later create the Global
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program and so that he would he
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they don't know what the Russian TV
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saying, oh yeah, look how
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three. There was Global Leaders for
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and there was something that was I
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program, which was the Russian version
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future leader of Russia. And there
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the Russian Patriot one of them was
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ninety ninety three. Yeah, and
by nineteen ninety nine, yeah,

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since turning around just saying that's your
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it. That that's how it is. It's already eat the same people,

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choosing the same things, greening on
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battlegrounds under the same agenda, but
the agendas from something in the fifties.

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that. But the actual agenda that's
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that, but it's a morphed version. And both sides, like the Russians

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and the West, they have the
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They're creating CBDCs, they're injecting their
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of the same things that everybody else
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And when they're not at war,
well, they've got cyber Polygon going

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at the World Economic Forum where Tony
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Shustin, the Prime Minister or president
of Russia, can't remember which way it

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is now at the one of them's
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around all the time. Are the
people and that one of the head of

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Spur Bank, the Russian bank are
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you know. It's it's a really
thin line between this war and it's

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all a narrative, and so is
it really happening? There are people dying,

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These people don't care, They don't
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helps to pop up the idea to
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one day be in that situation of
dying. You know, it's not necessarily

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whether who's dying, it doesn't really
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then people have fear of death and
the process continues. And that was

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the best explanation I've ever heard.
That was awesome. Limit, that's exactly

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what it is. It's a limited
forever war, dude. That was beautiful.

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Oh my god, that's exactly Jack. Is that because it's it's just

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so hard to you know, decipher
what's real what's not. But and that's

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but that's literally I'm just in my
mind, you know, I'm like processing

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this. That's what every war has
been. You know, we dropped forty

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We left forty billion dollars in a
country that we spent billions fighting for nothing

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because it was again this limited warfare
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at look look at what's happening over
the past week. Yeah, um I

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and it works for me as well. It works for me. I don't

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I don't claim to be um immune
to it yet. But I hear about

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this Wagnus, this Wagnus stuff,
this um Russian. I can't remember what

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the guy's name is. I can
never remember the name. Is this a

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passing guy? Anyway, it'll you'll
be dead in a week. Um.

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I hear about this and it comes
on and the first feeling I have is

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like this tingle over me, all
over me, like oh my god,

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I'm watching history. I'm watching history
app And then I have this like ring

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in my head that comes in there
and says, stop it, John,

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it's a it's a it's a bloody
mainstream US. What are you doing to

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stop? Stop believing what they're saying
and think about it. And then I'm

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like, oh, wait a minute, Oh this is probably a load of

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balls, isn't it. So I'm
watching it and I'm thinking Okay, what

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are they telling me. They're telling
me that this guy is marching on Moscow

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with military units. He's going to
take down your Moscow, he's going to

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take it over, and this at
the other and I got a friend saying

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that to me on the side,
and another friend over there saying, oh,

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yeah, this looks real, and
I'm like, no, it's not

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going to be real. It's going
to turn out that none of this what

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they've said on the mainstream media is
correct. And even though I feel that

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it's right as well, and it's
real, and I feel the tingles as

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well. Right, the only difference
between like accepting that and going forward it

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is just like it's not using your
rational mind. That's the only thing.

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You have to stop using irrational mind, because irrational mind is every single time

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they lie to you. And now
I look at the news from what they're

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saying, they're saying, oh,
no, he was saying he was demonstrating

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and he had no intention to take
Moscow, and he was marching to Rostov

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to speak with two guys who refused
to speak with him, and he'll probably

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be dead within a week. Now. That's that's like completely different than the

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Felia get a beginning, you know, and it's five days. Nowadays they

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can't keep one of these narratives going
for a week, you know. It's

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it's when we're talking about how quickly
things are moving and how fast and more

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rapidly it's developing. That's an example
of it. Something like that. Used

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to be like months and months and
months and people talking backwards forwards. Now

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it's just like five days, and
it's exposed now to the next SI up,

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onto the next sie up. This
is fifth generation warfare. This is

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what they do. This is what
we can expect soon. We won't even

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know soon. Yeah, they'll they'll
type in AI, they'll type in Russia,

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scare the bloody people, and the
ai'll go brah and make a load

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of reports. You have report,
tell you something that seems exactly true,

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and everybody's heart rate will go up. Dude, you're in that again.

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Like and it's a good U micro
macro of society. Like how you said

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these SI ups used to be able
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mean, people can't pay attention for
longer than thirty seconds. So they need

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to keep this, these these fresh
new stories that captivate and interest because the

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public can't even read a book.
Probe ninety percent hasn't read one in twenty

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years, you know, So yeah, I know. No, man,

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it's amazing. It's a it's amazing
to see how switched off people are.

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can't talk to people. I talk. I try and talk to people about

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like normal people in the park,
about what's going on. People I know

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really well. I try and say, you know, this is going on,

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this is going on, and they're
still defending marks or some stuff like

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that. You know, I'm having
arguments where it's like base sprint arguments about

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marks, and it's like, we're
well beyond marks now, people, well

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well beyond that. We're well beyond
talking about like a theory from the eighteen

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hundreds which will be completely irrelevant in
the next ten years because of how technology

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is moving. We're well beyond having
conversations about which way we should go.

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We need to have already chosen our
direction, because our enemies, the people

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who were against us, have all
chosen their directions. They've all sealed this

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up. I mean, when I
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earlier, that was the fall of
the Berlin Wall. They instantly set up

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this program first year as Tony Blair, Victor Orban Nicholas Sarkozy, Anglo Merkel,

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Gordon Brown, Bill Gates, Richard
Branson, all of the boys,

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all of the boys. The first
year they started it up because they knew

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we're about to take over everything.
And by nineteen ninety seven they'd already been

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installing all of their people into power
and they'd already won. And I've said

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to plads of people were so far
behind in the party, like we're twenty

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five years late to the party.
There's twenty five years. We're only just

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working out now that the whole thing
was sealed up and organized then. And

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it's now been going for so long
it's become industrial. And how do you

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stop something that's industrial apart from ending
up at war? That's a absolutely dude,

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damn man. So I so that's
kind of like what I you know,

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I wanted to be like an action. I almost like would prefer to

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be actual animosity between China and America
because there it leaves room for like a

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good guy versus a bad guy,
I guess, or a better alternative.

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But it's more it's almost more depressing
to know that they're all on the same

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page, because it's just as screwed
everywhere, you know, It's like,

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yeah, the Chinese, the Chinese
are particularly I mean, it's it's particularly

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interesting for us in the West because
do you know, have you ever gone

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onto a Chinese website? I who
ever gone into the Chinese into web whatever

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it is, I don't know what
it is. I did a bit of

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research into wuhan Um righting to start
and looked at their their their pages.

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It's hilarious actually, because it's like
October twenty nineteen, there's suddenly the websites

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just stop saying stuff almost completely.
And that is really the time when it

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got released like that, they crack
themselves. It goes clear and then and

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then they start, like a few
weeks later, they start producing things again

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on there. Other than that,
it just goes dead for that period and

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you can tell what but but but
there's not much on these sites, you

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know, there's not much, and
we can't understand it anyway because it's all

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in bloody Chinese, so we don't
even know what's going on in there.

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And Chinese culture is so different from
Western culture that even if you talk to

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a Chinese person in the street,
it takes you, it would take you

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probably a year of knowing each other
before you could get past cultural boundaries to

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be able to have a proper conversation
about what's really going on in China and

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what the people in China feel like
and how they act. And I've I

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just I just don't think we have
a realization of what's really going on there.

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What's going on there is just they're
about five years ahead of the plan

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that's going on over here, and
it's the same plan, the same things

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going happening. They're creating megacities at
high high speed, and I think,

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I think what China gets to do
it without with authoritarian rule so they don't

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have to worry about going through all
the procedures, so they're racing along on

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it. And that that was something
I think the Kissinger, the World Economic

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Forum and others worked out in the
late seventies early eighties, maybe even before

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that. They'd already like mapped out
and gamed out which countries were going to

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do the best in the future,
and they knew that that, yeah,

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China wasn't just going to be a
manufacturing base forever. Eventually it would step

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up to the next level and then
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I think a lot of what the
New World Order Kissing Your ideology was aimed

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at was trying to co opt and
aligned with China for when that time comes,

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so that that China doesn't feel threatened
when that time comes, and America

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it still can remain on top somehow
However, that doesn't isn't how it's playing

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out in reality, because China is
always going to get a little bit threatened.

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And this is a problem. You
know, they're all on the same

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agenda, but they all want their
version of the agenda to go interesting.

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Yeah, so so I mean,
can you imagine once there's Chinese CBDCs,

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Russian CBDC, m a European CBDC, in an American CBDC, who's gonna

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then say, okay, which one
of you then gives up all your CBDCs

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and created good joins our CBDC to
make the one global government CBDC. And

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then they'll all be like, I
don't think I want to do that quite

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now. You know, it gets
up to a point where we've and it's

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been foreseen within fiction and within other
things that you'll end up with three major

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superstates more likely than the global government
because people argue, and those super states

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will probably be somehow aligned with race, So there would be possibly like an

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entire Americans and the European and then
the Chinese. And we can't kind of

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see that playing out now anyway.
And like I say, they're heading towards

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the same things technologically, the same
And when you go and look at things

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that Epstein and Clinton were doing with
China, it's crazy. They were just

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selling off everything you want to elaborate
anything there is I oh god, I

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can't remember where it is, but
I was researching for one Nation under Blackmail

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volume two for Whitney Webb, and
we were looking at loads of I mean,

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I was looking at the trips with
Clinton and Epstein, and we had

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loads of conversations about the evidence and
what the evidence point there, and the

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evidence points really what they would do
in intelligence level, especially in Asia,

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was selling off nuclear technology to the
Chinese in a way that is completely and

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utterly illegal, so far beyond illegal. But it doesn't matter because by the

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time that the Chinese will benefit from
that, they'll also be getting selling nuclear

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technology of some type to America back
was a force because they're all on the

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same side. But they've got to
do this behind the scenes to create the

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air of this we're against you and
your against that's we're rivals and all of

407
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:17.160
this. Really, these people,
the people like Clinton after he left the

408
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:21.720
White House and Epstein and others are
going around and doing the stuff behind the

409
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.960
scenes that they won't talk about that
they're doing out loud. But we all

410
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.119
know what's going on. So why
is Hunter Biden hanging around in places like

411
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.839
China and Ukraine and all of the
time. Why is all of if you

412
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.400
really you look at Kloud Schwab,
where's Kloud Schwab's son, Olivier Schwab,

413
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:42.000
where's he hanging out China? All
of them? China? Yeah, Young

414
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:47.200
Kerman who was an Epstein associate.
And because I've mentioned a name now this

415
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:53.119
will be pulled off YouTube. I'm
very sorry about that. Well, she

416
00:31:53.279 --> 00:32:00.160
pulls off all of rich men anyway, So young Kerman, Jesus say she

417
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.599
went. And it's like they all
go through this Chinese route at some point.

418
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:06.799
They all go through Chinese because they
can make loads of money in China,

419
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:08.400
and all the Chinese want to be
unforced. You know, they're co

420
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.799
opting each other, they're selling each
other's technology to each other. And it

421
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:19.480
doesn't matter because technology is moving so
fast growth technologies or jung that by twenty

422
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:25.559
years time nuclear technology will be easy
to counteract with whatever terrible, horrible technology

423
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.480
in the future is fought up.
And it was people like Herman Khan,

424
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.440
who was one of the mentors of
Claud Schwab and called the real doctor Strange

425
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.240
Lave, who mapped all of this
out in the year two thousand and the

426
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:44.640
next two hundred years two documents which
basically at the Hudson Institute they gamed out

427
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.599
in nineteen sixty six nineteen sixty seven, they gamed out all of the potential

428
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:54.680
future technologies that were likely in the
foreseeable future, anything you could possibly get

429
00:32:54.759 --> 00:33:01.319
to and the likelihood of us actually
achieving that. What you discover is that

430
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:10.920
that technology move rises so quickly that
in nineteen forty five the whole world changed

431
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:17.240
because of the atomic bomb, and
that was a shift where one technology changed

432
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.720
in tire light like they created an
epoch and at the start of a new

433
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:29.000
epocal era. Later on, later
on we got like fight in the next

434
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:34.000
ten years. We got five of
those, like powerful technologies about to come

435
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.759
up, you know, in the
next hundred years. We've got loads of

436
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.720
them. AGI is right at the
end of their you know, artificial general

437
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.920
intelligence is right, yeah, because
after that we're doomed. But in between

438
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:50.079
there, like they got stuff they're
going to put in your brain will make

439
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.400
all our brains. The saying they
got they got things that you'll you'll stick

440
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.440
in your um, you're stick in
your bomb. It doesn't make no difference.

441
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.599
They'll stick them everywhere. We'll be
flying around, We'll be around,

442
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.559
will be planting stuff inside us,
will be something different. Before you know

443
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.160
it, Hey, before you know
it, you'll be uploading your mind to

444
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.440
the hive mind and you'll be hanging
out with Bill Gates inside Bill gates brain.

445
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.440
How about that, and you'll be
chuckling together. Well, you won't

446
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.760
need to chuckle because you won't feel
anymore. And you won't need to feel

447
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:23.239
because you're part of the collective.
You're part of and that's that. You

448
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.920
know, this is what these people
are describing as well. When you look

449
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.960
at the transhumanist like Barbara Marks Hubbard, you get into a point where they

450
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.280
start to say where we going,
Oh, we'll do all of this technology

451
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.280
and then it'll move really quick.
We'll get to AGA and then we'll all

452
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.840
upload our brains to the system and
live in complete harmony where we're orgasming to

453
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:45.199
the sound of children all of the
time. You know, it's insane where

454
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.400
they go. You already kind of
see that, you know, you're already

455
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.760
like on Twitter you see this high
I mean it's just one side or the

456
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.960
other. But they all have the
same exact you know, like how you

457
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.480
just talk about Poigan or whatever,
that Russian guy. I remember all these

458
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:04.599
Jeffs the Ukraine flags, like the
popcorn eating jefts and cheering. You know,

459
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.440
it's it's just too now, it's
not perfect harmony. It's just one

460
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:13.079
one side or the other. Yeah, everything's I think I think the fact

461
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:19.800
of memes, it's everything is is
like mimetic. Now, everything is just

462
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.360
bouncing off. It's really quick.
It's causing like us, like we see

463
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.679
something, we know what it is, go ah, and then the next

464
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.840
thing exam we go ah, we
are and then we're dead. You know.

465
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:35.599
It's like we are constantly distracted.
Everything is really describable in in no

466
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.079
time, We're picking up We're waking
up at a speed that is as fast

467
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:46.239
as the technology is improving, as
fast as the authoritarian rule is being put

468
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:51.159
on us, is as fast as
um the agenda is is going. You

469
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:55.440
know, we are waking up as
fast. Everything is related, Everything is

470
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.199
linked. Whether we like it or
not, we will it is true and

471
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.840
we will see. When I said
earlier, you know, I've had loads

472
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:09.199
of like examples of synchronicity in my
life recently, when things have been like,

473
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.119
oh man, I'm obviously here to
do this thing right now, or

474
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.800
to say this thing right now,
and a lot of it is just little

475
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.159
things, just helping people in my
area. I'm meeting people and like suddenly

476
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.400
I'm having a conversation. I realize
I'm the person to say this thing to

477
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.840
them now, and then it makes
them be able to go on or get

478
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.559
something that. I feel that that's
going to keep happening as well. I

479
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.880
feel that there's like as things go
into crisis, more people say I see

480
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:39.719
crisis. I know what crisis looks
like. I've experienced crisis, and we

481
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:44.960
can go through this together. So
there's you know, there's really a negatives

482
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:52.960
happening, but there's real positives because
the normal, everyday the reaction, the

483
00:36:53.079 --> 00:37:00.840
automatic reaction to crisis is for solution
and for people to try and find ways

484
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:06.920
through the crisis. Um, so
it's not all doom and glue. There

485
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.559
are there is like good stuff in
there. No you have. Yeah,

486
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:14.119
you can't be a total black belt, you know, that's that's too depressing

487
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:19.480
to live life like. Yeah,
but I mean it looks pretty bad,

488
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:24.320
doesn't it does outlook does look bleak? Yeah, they're talking about bees that

489
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.519
can give you diseases. I mean, things are pretty bad. I don't

490
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:34.000
know. I don't know. I
think this is something else that Herman Canter

491
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.599
I mentioned earlier. This is something
else. Is something he said is that

492
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:43.079
you know, we have so many
different challenges coming towards us in the next

493
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.599
fifty sixty years, that some of
them are extinction level events if we do

494
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.719
not manage them and we do not
handle them properly. And yet we're walking

495
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.320
towards it. We're running towards it, we're screaming towards it. We're sending

496
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.239
people like Epstein and Hunter Biden in
to it to manage it and to to

497
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.199
to exchange it. And we're not
talking about it. Probably just in case

498
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.480
the other side finds out and we
hide it away and give it to the

499
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.800
most nefarious people. You know,
this is the direction. We're aheaded,

500
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.159
we are humans. We keep doing
the same thing. A lot of it

501
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:21.320
is killing ourselves. Dude, that
that was beautiful as well. That's that's

502
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.400
do you think? Um? I
know, I'm just like asking random questions

503
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:27.679
now, but you're so well so
I always like run into these questions,

504
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.719
so kind of changing the topic a
little bit. But I always am wondering

505
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:38.639
why are is intelligence spycraft so linked
with the occults and banking? Why are

506
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:42.280
these three things? And you're like, why are they all you know,

507
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:47.840
like John d for a magician spy
and Crowley and all these people and uh,

508
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:53.079
you know Parsons, so many people
these people are spies and but also

509
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:59.840
like Pratt or magicians. What what's
like linking these two things together? Okay?

510
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:05.360
Is I think one of the things
is literature. So one of the

511
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.880
things that people who are in comprehensives
like me I went to I don't know

512
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:14.960
why we call it public schools over
here, like like, but I think

513
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.320
it's public schools. Well, we
just state schools. Like you know,

514
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:24.440
people who aren't educated so much.
Well, we've had our the curriculum,

515
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:30.480
things on the curriculum removed. All
of the stuff that can help us progress

516
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.679
in certain ways has been removed.
But some of that comes with elements of

517
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:39.239
other things. So when I say
this, you go back to philosophy,

518
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.519
angel philosophy, Marcus are really is
so greate? Stuff like that that was

519
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.880
all taken out of the curriculum in
the UK for good reason, because it

520
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.679
leads people to have logical fort and
be able to rationalize things and be able

521
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:59.480
to note fallacies, etc. But
also in studying it, you're allowed to

522
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:07.119
think esoterically. Now you're also allowed
to look at things ancient stories that give

523
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.239
you really like it deeply. If
you look at them deeply and you look

524
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:17.280
at the real themes involved in them, then you're able to say, um,

525
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.719
I understand humanity, I understand the
world around me, and I can

526
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:28.440
act in certain ways. But it
also leads you to end up looking at

527
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:34.599
things maybe maybe not religiously, and
maybe that didn't suit the religious orders at

528
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.280
the time. That's why that sort
of ancient sort of philosophy was taken out,

529
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:43.159
like the Greek and stuff was taken
out because because you know, it

530
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:51.840
didn't sit well with biblical scholars or
whatnotum but eventually there was there was there

531
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.880
was a magic attached to that as
well. There was a magic attached to

532
00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:00.199
the ancient stuff. When you re
read the Greek tragedies and stuff like that,

533
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.159
you know there was a magic always
within there and an essence of it.

534
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.800
And I think it was a pagan
thing that was lost as well,

535
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.760
is like an element of pagan ritual
that can be lost. But that's that's

536
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:19.039
kind of not all. That obsession
becomes something that the rich know that they

537
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:24.079
have knowledge of that they know separates
them from the poor. And they know

538
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:29.800
Latin, they know these things in
the original language. They know this,

539
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.880
or that they know more, they
know more, they know more, and

540
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:39.079
and because of that then that gives
them identity and allows them to create certain

541
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:46.000
organizations like well, the Freemasons or
Bohemian Grove, or as I mentioned in

542
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:52.000
podcast the other day that the kit
Kat Club in the UK, not very

543
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:59.239
well known no Nos for philosophers and
scholars, et cetera, was recreated by

544
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:04.880
Gilaine Max as well in the nineties
or the naughties. Because these people all

545
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.719
educated at the same level are all
in the same sort of like cliques,

546
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:13.119
and with it comes a lot of
magic. So Bohemian Grove, you know,

547
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.320
a lot about Bohemian Grove was about
them having a play. They had

548
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.880
certain plays that were repeated. But
then they had people come in and do

549
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:27.079
really extravagant like really famous playwrights and
stuff come in and write amazing screenplays.

550
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.039
And I have all of these guys
do all of this, but it was

551
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.920
all about magic. It was all
about these things, and it captures the

552
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.079
mind, it catchures the imagination.
But then a lot of these people's families

553
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:43.360
are connected with things like freemasonry,
where they speak rituals and they're taking what

554
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:51.440
is like a certain paths that is
obviously has again like esoteric thinking attached to

555
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:55.719
it, and this sort of cult, this feeling of cult, is always

556
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.000
there. They have to be members
of gangs, they have to be members

557
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.199
as a groups. They have to
be organizations. They have to be on

558
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:06.679
the committee of the committees. They
have to have a council of far relationship

559
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.880
around tables, they have to have
all of these different things. They have

560
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:16.039
to have these organizations that are hermetic
organizations, you know, and that always

561
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:22.599
ends up then with Okay, it's
not related to religion, it's outside religion.

562
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:29.519
Let's create our own mysticism. And
then these guys then think. The

563
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.440
first thing that they think of is
going back to the things they would talk

564
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:35.679
when they were young. And most
of these rich people would talk about Greek

565
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:40.639
tragedies and all of these other things, and lots of Shakespearean stuff and ghosts

566
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.760
and this that the other. So
I think I think there's an element of

567
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:49.360
that to it. I think the
reason why they end up there is because

568
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:54.320
they're more classically trained. I think
that was the same maybe for the Nazis,

569
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:59.679
you know, the I mean,
the original Nazis, not what we

570
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.639
have today or what we had in
the eighties or any of that. And

571
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:08.519
the original Nazis still exists today,
but they're just corporates. They're up there

572
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:15.280
in the offices. That's the real
Nazis, who are top business guys.

573
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.679
So yeah, I think it's classical
education. One of the biggest things is

574
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.880
classical education. And I remember when
I was about five or six, I

575
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:30.440
was in class two Missus Moxon,
and she said to me, this would

576
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.519
have been nineteen eighty six, and
she said to us, all that we

577
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.440
were no longer going to learn about
ancient Britain, we were no longer going

578
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.519
to learn about Rome or Greece.
That instead we were gonna The curriculum that

579
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.199
they were going to be teaching the
kids from then on was about Welsh history,

580
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.719
which isn't so bad. I suppose
I am Welsh World War two,

581
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:55.239
which makes sense because everything those World
War and I think it was even the

582
00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:00.320
English Civil War, but there was
It was like there was a lot of

583
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:07.400
focus on law basically through history,
which isn't so bad either, but ended

584
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:13.440
up with then always talking about which
trials and stuff like that because it's saucy

585
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.039
and gets kids interested. Yes,
But basically what they did is even when

586
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:22.599
I was young, they were removing
it out of the correctly removing classical education.

587
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:28.159
Now I'm older and I've looked back
at the youth programs that these elites

588
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.599
were put through. I'm able to
see why those youth programs were designed in

589
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:37.559
the way they were. And the
same people Herman Kahn who I talked about,

590
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.239
who wrote the year two thousand and
a year two hundred the next two

591
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.440
hundred years at the same time he
was writing that between nineteen sixty six and

592
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:51.519
ninety sixty eight, he was also
writing a secret ancillary document for the State

593
00:45:51.599 --> 00:46:00.000
Department which had a section that was
about educating leadership group outside society, outside

594
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:07.320
regular society. And then they implemented
that, and that's was already they didn't

595
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.119
then the implemented that. That was
already what was happening at Kissinger's international seminar.

596
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.880
And that's the same mentor of Klaus
Schwab. At the same time he

597
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.239
was being given to Klaus Schwab as
a mentor, was releasing that as a

598
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.679
document. And then we'd go back
too with Klaud Schwab and be one of

599
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.360
the on the main stage for the
first ever world economic form, which was

600
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:37.400
called the European Management Symposium, and
would sit up on stage representing those ideas,

601
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:44.280
those exact ideas you're going to,
you know, creating a organization that

602
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:50.559
would eventually train leadership group outside society, just as his document had written and

603
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:54.920
mapped out four years before. So
it's all I mean, this is planned,

604
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:00.599
planned, so planned, and it's
about set breaking the leadership group from

605
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.239
the rest of us. And so
that means they have to predefine, they

606
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:10.199
have to pre select. So justin
Trudeau get selected why hegemony hegemony? However,

607
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.199
he said his father was a leader. His father went through that international

608
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.599
seminar, Kissinger's International Deminar, saying
when Clouds Swab went through, Pierre Trudeau

609
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went through. In actual fact,
I think, Pierre, I'm going to

610
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do more research about this, but
I've got so much to do that I

611
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didn't get round to this. But
Pierre Trudeau's father, I think he's actually

612
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related to the man who was really
behind Kissinger's International seminar, a guy called

613
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William Yan del Elliott, who was
a grandee on a scale I cannot explain.

614
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A close advisor to six US presidents
and one of the most important people

615
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in history, and no one ever
knows about him. You know, it's

616
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just amazing. Yeah, is that? Like, I mean, everyone always

617
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says that I read, um,
I forget the author, like Barack Obama

618
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was the Manchurion Kennedy. But you
think that that that I mean that people

619
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say, like, you know,
just say that all the time, but

620
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you think there's some truth then to
that. That's that kind of statement that

621
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.199
he has a chat for whatever reason
as a child, whether it's his grandfather's

622
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:21.000
connections, whatever parents connections, He's
pre selected out to be to be pulled

623
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:25.800
out to be educated outside the US
regular folk. Yeah, yeah, most

624
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definitely. And I mean I noticed
it before I could define it like that.

625
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And I feel in the senses of
synchlinicity again to me coming across that

626
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:46.440
information and research in Klaus Schwab's Rise
and kidsenes into all of that stuff,

627
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:53.159
because I'd also researched other stuff before
that, that made then a lot more

628
00:48:53.239 --> 00:49:00.800
sense. So, for instance,
Ashdown House School in nineteen seventy four,

629
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there was a guy called Billy Williamson. He was the headmaster of Ashdown House

630
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.960
School was a private school in Sussex
in the UK, and it was an

631
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:16.199
all boys school and Billy Williamson had
molested boys for years and years and years.

632
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:21.159
These were rich boys as well,
from powerful families, and he was

633
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:27.360
systematically molesting them over and over again. And in nineteen seventy four, after

634
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:32.360
years and years and years of his
reign of terror, a guy called Ali

635
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.800
I think his name is Alex Renton
wrote a book about his time and how

636
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.639
he was molested by one of the
teachers at the school. So it was

637
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:46.079
more than just the one as well. Billy Williamson was a beer Bottoms banker.

638
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:51.519
He was a friend of Ian Fleming, who wrote James Bond as well.

639
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.599
Yeah, these people were really heavily
connected. Well. Nineteen seventy four,

640
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:02.119
Boris Johnson's father turns up Boris Johnson, Joe Johnson and their daughter.

641
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:09.119
I can never remember her name,
woman Johnson female. I think her name

642
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:19.360
of Rebecca or something um. And
they they turn up at the school and

643
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:23.000
he says to Billy Williamson, this
is no longer going to be a boys

644
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:28.039
school. My daughter is going to
come here as well, and you've got

645
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:32.320
to leave. And they don't say
why, and he leaves straight away.

646
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.840
Boris Johnson and Joe Johnson go that
cose. Boris Johnson's already preselect we know

647
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:44.760
by even when he's going through the
following years at Ashdown House, he goes

648
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:50.320
to Eaton and then he's like everybody
knows in Eaton he's untouchable and he's going

649
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.119
to be a leader one day.
He's related to King George the third or

650
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:57.840
whatever. You know. They have
chosen him, They have selected him,

651
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:01.480
they have they have made it so
that everything that had affected any boy around

652
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:07.400
would not affect him in the same
way that he was complete and then what

653
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.920
did it lead to it being?
It basically installed into power. Now they're

654
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.079
they're battling around like, oh he's
terrible's he will come back to power again,

655
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:22.400
just like Trump. It's like a
it's it's a juper cut operation.

656
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.719
It's something that you see a lot
from America and Britain. Yeah. Yeah,

657
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:31.119
it's like America running the Trump operation
and Britain's running the Boris Johnson operation.

658
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.679
Both the let's paint them as far
right even though they're just a little

659
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:42.639
bit right, uh and and extremely
dopey, even though they've both been very

660
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:49.159
successful in like most of the things
they do. Um. But but essentially,

661
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.280
yeah, they're selected beforehand. Boris
Johnson was selected, and only was

662
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:58.440
he selected, but a private school
had to change completely their ways. Um,

663
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:02.400
if they wanted to educate to this
futurely educate this future leader. Dude.

664
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.000
That I mean, I really,
I you know, I think we

665
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.920
all suspected that. But that's like
just an amazing that's amazing, dude.

666
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.920
So my my last question, and
obviously you follow American politics, what what

667
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.519
happens in twenty twenty four here?
What is um? Are they going to

668
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:24.760
install Trump again to cause utter chaos. Are they gonna keep riding with Biden's

669
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:31.079
Uh, what's going to happen?
And h you're hear do you want to

670
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:37.960
hear really brave addiction to brave and
dangers? Do you want? Um?

671
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:45.199
Okay um? I'm excited. I
think I think that I can't see how

672
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:51.360
Trump could possibly win an election because
of the vac stuff. I can't.

673
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.719
I I don't understand that. I
can't see Biden being on. I can

674
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:07.800
see Kennedy being are very like getting
lots of momentum and being dead, dead

675
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:13.960
as a doornail at some point.
I see that. That's that's I see

676
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:22.320
history being purposely repeated in a way
that is ritualistic. Cultis is everything that

677
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.920
the establishment is. So so maybe
this time, okay, so I don't

678
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:32.679
want to be too narrow. Maybe
this time Robert F. Kennedy won't make

679
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:42.920
it to be the person who's the
Democratic nomination for president, but the next

680
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:47.159
time he will. If he doesn't
this time, if he does this time,

681
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:52.800
he's as dead as a doornail.
Is history repeating itself, It's being

682
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.000
planned out, mapped out. You'll
be lifted to power and you will be

683
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:59.760
shot down in the same way.
And it's to remind people who's in charge.

684
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:04.840
It was to remind people who's in
charge. Other than that, I

685
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:09.960
mean, if it becomes if I
just I can't see how the Democrats won't

686
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:16.360
end up fixing and rigging the game
again. Um, if it's I'm saying,

687
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:21.360
if it's anybody, but I think
Robert F. Kennedy might get enough

688
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:29.760
momentum to look like the he will
win the presidency. Um. That could

689
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:35.280
That could very well happen. But
that's only if the Democrats just don't rig

690
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.920
the game again, and they always
do so. So what's really likely to

691
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:44.079
happen? I say all of this, buff what's really likely to happen is

692
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.119
that they'll go into counting for which
who will take over as Joe Biden because

693
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:51.400
Joe Biden is obviously not going to
be able to handle another term. So

694
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.119
they'll go in and they'll they'll fix
it. We'll all know who it is

695
00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:00.199
as soon as it comes up,
because it's the one that Bernie Sanders he's

696
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.920
going to get run over from,
or whoever is that supposed left wing sort

697
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:10.960
of candidate, and it will be
some another Obama Clinton Biden, push it

698
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.199
in, push it in, push
it in push everybody out of the way,

699
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:21.559
um or or it'll be candidy and
it'll be tragic and so so that's

700
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:23.280
that's how I feel about it.
That's how I feel about it. I

701
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.960
just feel that history is just it
repeats itself and we always are like,

702
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.800
oh my god, it's repeating itself
a game and we've just got to get

703
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.320
over that bit. No, dude, that's a brave and that was That's

704
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:38.639
You're right, history always rhymes.
I mean, I'm sure when after JFK

705
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.079
got us that, no one thought, well, his brother's not gonna get

706
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.320
no one his brothers. They can't
kill both of them, right. Yeah,

707
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:47.039
Well that's a that's a I like
that. That's a that's a fun

708
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.280
prediction. Dude. Well, Johnny, where can people support your work,

709
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.400
find you, watch you, support
you all those good things? Well I

710
00:55:54.880 --> 00:56:00.280
really need people support right now.
So thanks for getting me out. Yeah,

711
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:05.039
I thank everybody. I'm on NewSpace
dot com. News paste and news

712
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.440
paste is really important to me.
I've set it up to be something that

713
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:13.559
I can help get out other people's
information, and I can expand it to

714
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:17.480
eventually be something that helps people learn
how to research and do other things.

715
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:22.480
Gives them tools. There's a new
series coming out on there, this already

716
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:29.519
starting out is supporting a series The
Takedown of Jeffrey Epstein is going to blow

717
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:36.079
people's minds clean off their heads.
I support me with how you can,

718
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.840
but most of all, just support
independent media. Stop paying your bit if

719
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.840
you have Britain, stop paying your
TV license, and start putting it towards

720
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.559
people who are actually doing research and
actually doing the job. You know,

721
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.719
I got a load of shows so
people can come watch my shows. I

722
00:56:52.840 --> 00:57:00.239
got a podcast, NewSpace podcast,
and please please come and talk to me

723
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.159
if you want. I'm really interactive. Awesome dude. Well I'm gonna I'm

724
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.199
gonna buy support you right when we
end the show here, but I'll put

725
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.679
all your links in the show notes. So I really appreciate you doing this

726
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.000
late night for you. So Johnny, thanks man, and thanks yeah,

727
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:19.960
thanks for coming on, buddy.
Thanks Jack. It's being a pleasure anytime.

728
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.480
All right, everybody, take care
of a good night, and we'll

729
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.639
see you soon. Peace. All
right, dude, We'll

