Welcome to the Paranormal Project Radio Show. Journey with us through mystical realms to
a world of the unexplained. If you're ready, take a deep breath and
let curiosity be your guide. And now here are your hosts, Spirit medium
Scott Allen and Christina Bowen, the Green Witch of Tennessee. Hello, everyone,
and welcome back to the Paranormal Project Radio Show. It's so good to
be with you this Wednesday evening. Hello, my friend Christina, how are
you? Thanks, I'm excited. I'm excited too, but I have to
apologie. You guys were a few minutes behind because you know it sounds like
a joke. You know what happens when two mediums and a witch walk into
a bar, well, you get electronic troubles, And this is what happens,
and everything is going to wonko. So we had to delay the show
by a couple of minutes. But we're here. Hello, Melissa Blackman,
so good to see you as well. So welcome. I'm so excited for
this show today. My good friend Robert Neil Marshall is our guest for tonight,
and you may have remembered him from last season. You may also remember
him from well, if you watched House of Cards the final season episode one,
he was on House of Cards. He's a producer, he's a filmmaker,
he's a director, he's done casting, he's done everything. And he
is here with us tonight to talk about a new show that he has asked
me to join him in, and it's called Providence of the Heart. And
I think you're going to love hearing about this. If you're into near death
experiences and past lives and premonitions and mediumship and ghosts, well that's what this
this show is about. So I'd like to welcome my friend Robert Neil Marshall
back to the show. Hello, how are you Robert? Hey everyone,
good to see you guys. Thank you so much for having me back.
This is this is really cool and yeah there is there's like energy in the
air, is all I can say tonight. Right, it's all crazy.
I break things, so that's kind of how things go on just thinking about
them. I look at like Creskin. Remember Crescin used to bend metal and
all of that. That's really cool, which is that will be I will
be with the amazing Crescin in just a few weeks. Did I tell you
that story. No, that's so cool. So I am going to be
at Salem State College on Bedform's Day weekend November eleventh and twelfth. They have
a gallery there on the Saturday and the Sunday, and one of the other
guests is the amazing Creskin and he's got his own show I think after us
on that day, so I'll be sure to be hanging out. Yeah,
say, we were just talking about you. You know, maybe it was
probably knows that Melissa. Thank you for the message, thank you for welcoming
me back. So yeah, yeah, yeah, So Robert, I'm excited.
You know, our show goes live next week at the end Borrow,
and it seems like it's been a long haul, but but really this is
just the first step for us on a on a trip to a much bigger,
much bigger production. We hope, we hope and people here in the
Massachusetts area that would like to see Providence of the Heart. But we're going
to tell you a little bit about that tonight. Robert, do you want
to share a little bit about how this show came to be? Well,
the story that I know you like to say about how we actually met,
you know, just sort of some mutual friends in the in the industry,
you could say, but that you had John Zapfis on your show a few
months back, and I saw that, and you and I'd been talking and
I wrote you and I said, wait a second, this is the John
sapphis I said, I played him on several episodes of a show called a
Haunting, and and so you invited me on on on the show and I
got to meet John virtually, and it was it was really amazing because he's
got quite a powerful reputation in this realm. And uh, it was I
was honored to play him. But I know we never got to meet because
they record the celebrity person if you will, you know, on separate camera.
And then we actors were we're doing the dialogue, we're re enacting,
and there were some possession scenes with people floating in the air and all sorts
of crazy stuff. So yeah, it was good for good fun, not
like a good possession to light up the week. Now, you know,
a year actor, it's it's it's it's done and not a real you know,
there are ways to make it happen. It's it's very fake, but
we make it look real, make it look real. And that's what the
magic of movies is all about. So you know, yes, that's true.
We met, and you know, we talked about doing this show because
you had your experiences and I've had mine opening to mediumship and and in some
ways they're different. In some ways they're very very similar. And I don't
know, we talked about what the medium and the Nearly Dead guy and yeah,
that was one of the early titles. Yeah, yeah, and another
one we're going to call it is medium at large, Medium at large.
Yeah yeah, medium at large. That's right. Yeah, no longer a
medium, but small. I like that, you got it, you got
I love that. Yeah, it's not about six pillows you can't see just
to get her tall enough. Just oh that's all right, you get one
of those little cranks, right, I do, I really do? Tell
us what where this started for you? I mean, you know, what
had come to be the idea for the show or just well well, I
mean, I mean it's on your own experiences, you know. Yeah,
it's it's a lifelong thing that sort of you know, culminated. I guess
ten years ago I had a massive heart attack, I went into v FIN,
I had the widow Maker. They call it. I'd had GI issues
that were undiagnosed, so when I was in agonizing pain, thinking it would
lift in just a few minutes, because the pain always lifted and went away,
I kind of walked around and did what I normally did, thinking this
will go away and we'll talk about it in the show. I keep saying
when we do these things, I don't want to give too much away.
They have to come see the show if they want the full story. But
I literally googled heart attack symptoms and went through a checklist that says, if
any one of these happened within you know, you know, call nine one
one within five minutes. And I'm going yep, yep, yep. And
this is forty five to fifty minutes later. I'm walking around because you don't
believe, as I'm sure many people probably say, they don't believe this is
real. You don't believe you're actually possibly having a heart attack. And the
last symptom, but all the symptoms were things that I had with these GI
issues. Later found out to be a very badly infected gallbladder and pancreatitis and
things. I learned that after the fact, but at the time I'm waiting
for it to go away. And the last one on the list was nausea,
and I never had nausea with these previous attacks. And I thought,
if I didn't know any better, I could really be having a heart attack.
And I was prompted to call nine one one, But you're scared.
What if I'm wrong. I don't want to bother anybody, you know,
I think all of us just those things go through our minds. And a
voice in my head just said, hit the button now. And I had
only about two and a half minutes left when I got into the ambulance.
They asked me a couple of questions and about like my weight or my age
or something, and I'm like, wait, wait, don't tell me,
don't tell me. I know the answer to this. It was very bizarre
that something was wrong, and I just happened to mention the pain in my
arms besides my chest, which was a little unusual because usually with the GI
it was lower, but it would radiate through my whole body, but it
was it was different, and they just said put a twelve lead on him.
They want to get the the EKG you know, leads. And I
had a bathrobe on. It was three thirty in the morning, August third,
twenty thirteen, and they said, can put open your bathrobe to get
to your chest. I'm like, yeah, whatever you need to do.
And the next thing, you know, as you quoted the other day,
and I said, it's like changing the channel on the TV remote. All
of a sudden, I'm completely somewhere else. I am no longer there in
an ambulance. I had no idea that I was now clinically dead. I
had no idea that I'd been sick. I'm just new reality. And it
went on from there. But that experience, and there's a lot more detail
to it, I was I was shown why I needed to come back through
a past life review. I guess you could say when I say past life,
I meant from my current life. I didn't mean past life is in
But that's a whole other story there. Yeah, you're past in this life,
in my past in this life. And and by being shown these these
episodes, I was shown, well I needed to come back. And they
they explained to me later that when you go into v FIB, your heart
just quivers like jello. It's not pumping anymore. It was starved of blood.
And what ended up happening is when when I when I it went into
v FIB, I was no longer living. I couldn't breathe, I was
unconscious, everything had stopped. And literally then they shocked me. I flatlined,
because in the movies they always make it look like you shock somebody and
they suddenly back to life, and all these paramedics and go oh no,
no, no, no, Bob. When we shock you, you flat
line. It's meant to break the rhythm that's gone crazy. You could see
it like an oscilloscope. It's just quivering. And when they flatline you,
then they literally do CPR. They pound on you and hopefully they get you
back. And I've since read only five percent of the people who have this
happen come out alive and make it through. And so I just feel like
I was guided by other forces, if you will, to get me to
where I needed to be so I could come back and now tell my story,
which apparently inspires a lot of people. When I have one on one
conversations, people are either curious or very frightened about death and what it means
and psychic things, and it's spooky for some people. And there's a lot
of love and a lot of joy connected with as we all know, our
spiritual connection to things, and so I would talk to people and it was
sort of like almost like a mission, if that sounds right. I don't
mean it in a religious way, but like a job to come back and
help other people feel inspired, comforted, know that there's more, and to
live up to our true potential spiritually emotionally, because then your life comes together.
And that I think prompted the show because now we can reach more people
to do that. Have I made that? That makes sense what I described,
It makes perfect sense. I do have a question for you, though,
sure your mediumship gifts. Did that begin before or after this experience?
It's interesting. I will admit that I've learned things from Scott. In working
with Scott, I mean he's become my mentor in many ways, and it's
happening. A lot just happened today, I mean literally today. I'll tell
you this story in a second, but I had psychic things that happened before
and when I was younger, and that was triggered by a story I wrote
that was a fantasy story in my mind about a man who lived in the
seventeen nineties and died during the French Revolution, but I wrote my own interpretation
of what it was like to die. And then this was just when the
doctor Raymond Moody's book Life After Life was just coming out. It's now common
knowledge these near death experiences. Back then, I thought I made up my
own. This was a fictional story which all of a sudden one hundred and
twenty five other people are describing that I knew nothing about. And I'm like,
how did I know these things? Right? If I never actually died,
how could I possibly know these things at one hundred and twenty. So
that opened up a doorway, and then from that point on, believe it
or not, that opened up a gateway or a doorway to a lot of
very vivid psychic experiences, many of which frightened me. But it got really
intense. It was validated that there was no question something was going on after
my real life near death experience many years later. I mean, as I've
said, it's like someone turned the volume up loud. I'm plugged into something
now that I wasn't before, and no fear of death. I'm very comfortable
with all of it. And it's people say, well, do you have
like some death wish. I was like, no, no, not at
all. I mean, but it's just if it were happen, I'm totally
good with it. But I know it's not going to happen til I'm ready,
because I got things to do and my job isn't done. And we
all here to be here as long as we need to be here, and
we worry about so much that we can't control. Live your life, open
up except it. That's kind of the message of the show. And you
know, I think we get you know, we're so tuned in in so
many of the same ways because you know, you talked about there being a
fear of death, and of course, I've been working in a funeral home
since I was sixteen years old. You know, I started out in high
school. I was cleaning and vacuuming and washing cars and doing all of those
sorts of things. I wasn't directing funerals, but I was certainly around it.
And you know, in those little psychic pieces that you don't really at
the time, you pass them off as a coincidence, but you know it's
not. I mean, in hindsight, I look back at some of these
things and I think, oh God, that was something, you know,
And we'll tell a story in the show about how I got called out to
a house for someone who had passed and I was questioning. You know,
I was about seventeen years old at the time, and I said to the
man I worked for, Wow, how do they know he's dead? And
he's a question that I mean, you know, they do this all the
time. Just get dressed, let's go. And I said, yeah,
but but but how do they know? You know? I mean, I
know they do it all the time, but how do they know? You
know? And the answer should have been, well, the medical examiner went,
or the doctor went, or you know something, the EMPs were there,
who knows. But I had this and I couldn't shake it, like
the ceiling. Yeah, I couldn't shake the feeling. And we went to
get in the car and leave, and the phone rang and I ran back
and I answered the phone and it was the police department, and they said,
don't we found a breath? Wow? And I thought, that's just
yeah. But but you know, you know, chalked it up to coincidence,
and well that was really strange. And and that was it. And
there were a lot of incidents really well exactly there aren't. But but but
we're taught to believe there are and when and I don't know. Everyone has
a different background, whether it's a religious background or not religious. But it's
sort of like, well, you have a vivid imagination. I used to
get that a lot, you know, or or you know, my mother
would always tell me, you're too sensitive, you're too judgmental, you're to
this and that and the other thing. The fact was I was reading people,
and I didn't realize I was reading what you can call it empathy,
you can call it whatever it is. But I knew when I jibed with
someone, I could tell you in three seconds after they walked in the room.
And and I wanted to be friends with you, or I knew right
off the bat I wanted nothing to do with you. And it would sometimes
drive my mother crazy, because you know, she makes friends and elevators,
so you know, you know, just I was not that way. I
was. I was just a little more picky. But I really think it
was being able to read and understand who these people are. I just got
the vibe almost immediately whether I like that person or not. You know,
to learn to trust those feelings too. I mean that's the hard part as
well. I think what you've taught me Scott is that sometimes you feel like
you're making it up, and that's what I felt. I felt I was
making up things in my head because it just popped into my head. But
when I say something to somebody, they're astounded or like the remarkable coincidence that
you could have a thousand possible names that would come to your head, or
a thousand possible things, but the one thing that pops in your head suddenly
means something. Or sometimes they're like, no, no, that doesn't mean
anything, and then they go, oh my gosh, wait a minute,
oh oh wow. You know, it just takes a moment, and it's
not fishing for things. It's it's very specific things that are going to mean
something to some one that is not just random. It's that kind of a
thing. Well, and I will tell you any medium I know, and
I don't care how old they are or how long they've been doing this,
will tell me that they still they trust. But there are those moments when
you say to yourself, I'm not saying that. I was in Maine over
the weekend and I sat with a woman. I was reading her and I
remember I said to her, look, this is bizarre. I have no
idea why I got this, but I'm going to share it with you anyway,
you know. And I'm thinking in my head, I hope this means
something, because this is wonky. And I said to her, I said,
why is he showing me a whole bunch of cracker barrel restaurants? I'm
seeing them like in a line, are on a map. I mean,
like what, this is crazy? And she went like this went oh my
god. I said, you understand that? And she said yeah, because
every time we went somewhere, we took a root so that he could make
sure he at every one of the cracker barrel roll right on the way,
and he would map them out and no exactly way he could hit them.
And I thought, you can't make this stuff up. And that doesn't apply
to everybody, that someone would have something that specific, right, No,
no, no, no. And that's the stuff, you know, that's
the stuff where you go, look, I don't know why I'm getting this.
It's so random and so out there, but those are those little nuggets
of information that makes someone go, oh my god, that has to be
my dad. Who could come on from the confidence and that I firmly believe
that's how Spirit let somebody know whether you're dealing with a legit medium or not.
Right right, you know, there's some kind of message it would come
through. You could fly the discount cheap airline. You can go with the
good airlines, Spiritual, Spirit, Spirit Spirit. I mean nothing against Spirit
airlines, but it worries me to fly an airline called Spirit. I mean,
particularly in our realm. If you don't want to become one while you're
in we'll anyway. Sorry. I hope we don't get sued by Spirit airlines.
They're wonderful. They're really good people, great flights, good prices.
But today I was gonna tell you that. Sorry. The woman today,
a friend of mine, rather a man, I was speaking to about something
completely unrelated, and we start talking about medical history because he's going to have
a liver transplant soon, he was telling me, and then he mentioned something
about his mother passing, and the second he did, I just bam in
my head. I was just telling Scott about this, a glass of champagne,
very sophific, like a toast or champagne glasses, and I was thinking,
I just do we lose Scott, uh h, keep going, He'll
post on the air. Okay's back so he knows the story. So I'll
tell you Christine. So so literally the two glasses clink together. In my
head, I see the champagne. I thought, well, anybody's got champagne.
Don't bother say so I said something that, just say something? So
I did. I said, hey, I said, does two champagne glasses
or champagne or a toast? Does that mean anything specific to you about your
mom? And I said if it doesn't, I said, you know,
just think about it maybe later. And he goes, oh my god,
no, you won't believe this. I'm like, what what? Because I'm
thinking again, like Nancy says, you feel like a fraud. You know,
You're like, I'm making this up. But he said, my mother
never drank in her entire life. And then she was diagnosed she had a
life threatening illness. And on her latter days, it was her birthday and
she said, what the h I'm just gonna have something to drink. And
we had a very special toast and it was champagne, and we did this
and then she said she had so much that she went into the bathroom.
She came out with the toilet paper bow in her hair, right, And
while Champagne you could say, all right, Bob, Champagne could mean anything
to anybody. Everyone's had something with Champagne. That was a very specific message
that meant something. There he is. You missed the story, Scott,
but we talked about it today. I was just share you with Christina the
whole thing. I wasn't really gone. Oh he was hiding, he was,
but anyway, but yeah, and so, but it's magical things like
that that and I won't tell the whole story. But a woman she had
a little bug in her hair, like a little ladybug, and we know
that ladybugs and moths and butterflies are very symbolic. I just said, you
know, she said, oh, thank you for taking the bug out of
my hair. I was like, well, that was your dear aunt Rachel
saying hello, you know. And I was joking. And then afterwards the
second I said, I was like, actually, no, really, do
you happen to have an aunt Rachel? Just no, no, I don't.
I'm like, okay, never mind, but my daughter's name is Rachel,
you know, out of millions of thousands of it. And then again
her mother found out what was not with us, she said, well that
was Rachel was my mother's favorite grandchild. She says, after I had Rachel,
I didn't need to have any more grandchildren. So come on, Rachel,
how many all them would come out? I could have said a thousand
names from the baby book, right, So it's it's it's subtle, it's
very simple, but it happens when and where and how, you know.
I love stories like that, the synchronicities. Yeah, Nancy says, no
more potty breaks on company. You're bust Scott. Oh, we're having fun
here. Come on, guys, we're having cocktail before the show. But
Nancy piss off literally figured out. But anyway, I guess getting us back
on track though. But the show that Scott and I are doing really it's
it's the two of us are telling the story of our lives in key moments
that deal with our discovery of our abilities, dealing with the fear and the
unknown of those abilities, and the challenges in our own lives. Scott working
in the funeral home and growing up there and me, you know, psychic
things and having this sort of past life thing that then turned on some switch
and and then for me actually having a near death experience and going through and
the changes that happened, and and as again a message to everyone about this
isn't just special to us. We all have this connection. I've joked I
got hit in the head with a sledgehammer, you know, by my heart
attack to turn it on. But I think other people you can do that
just by learning how to get in touch or pay attention to those little moments.
It's true. And you know, for me, it wasn't all fun
and games either. You talk about getting in the hit in the head with
a sledgeham, it was. It was frightening. Actually, it was absolutely
frightening. And you know, I didn't know what was going on. I
thought, man, do I have an attachment or you know, is this
mental illness? I mean, these are things that you know when time spirits
said okay, time's up, let's get moving. And it was absolutely frightening.
I mean I had spirits calling me out, you know, on the
radio, I mean on I would go on investigations with people who would ghost
hunting. I remember once I was on a I was on an investigation and
we had a spirit spirit box going and somebody said, do you know anybody's
name here, you know, classic, classic, and you were about twelve
to fifteen of them calling out my name. It was crazy. Oh wow,
and I haven't recorded. I'll show you some time, Christina. I
mean it was just you've got well had that happened at Randolph County. Your
name was called actually all the time, they called me all the time,
and the famous among the dead. I am famous among the dead, and
yeah, clearly, yeah, no, I mean I all want to get
in line and talk with you through you reach their family. You know,
you are clearly a bright, shining billboard to them. Whatever it looks like
on the other side that says open for business. You know. They say
that your light burns differently when you do this work. I don't know if
that's true. I mean, it might be just a way of explaining it.
But they find us, they find us, and it's really crazy,
you know. And and you know, sometimes you'll watch some of these paranormal
shows and you'll get EVPs and sometimes you're really straining to hear it and to
really understand, or sometimes it's really a breathy or whispery and you've got to
really like ear up to it. I put on earphones and I was getting
stuff that was just it was like they were in the room with us,
talking in on the recorder. It was it was crazy, absolutely crazy.
But it wasn't all fun and games. It was frightening and it took a
long time to figure out what was going on, and to you know,
accepting it was was a challenge. It was even longer. Did you have
someone you could turn to that was could be a guide or some other medium
at the time, yeah, yeah, at the time, there was a
medium that I had met and I called her because I thought I had an
attachment. I wasn't thinking, you know, I wasn't ready to go down
the mental illness route I had started to. I was ahead of that.
I started recording things that were happening, like when they started calling my name
and David and all this other business, and so I recorded it and I
figured, well, if I can hear it and you can hear it,
then I'm not crazy. You know, you couldn't hear it. I had
bigger problems than just an attachment. But I was pretty convinced that something had
gotten hold of me, and I didn't know what to do. So I
reached out to her and I said, look, this is you know,
you feel like you feel like an idiot, right Like I got the spirit
after me. I think that's what I said, the spirit after me.
And we met, and she's the one that kind of she was testing me,
without testing me, without telling me, you know that she was testing.
But I really think she wanted to find out what was going on.
And she's the one that told me what was happening, and I did not
believe her. I always say, you know, I saw the movie Ghost
with Whoopi Goldberg, and that is not at all what was happening to me.
Right well, I was gonna say popular movies and these paranormal shows they
are sensationalists in so many ways, and they do play upon the fear to
sell movies. Even when we're talking about the Conjuring House, how the movie
is very different. And Andrea Parrin very kindly through you Scott when we were
invited on her show. I mean to learn that there's there was a lot
of love and there's actually something really beautiful behind it, and that that's a
bad rap. I think that popularity or sensationalism does to this. That's what
sells tickets. Our seals. He's freaked out by Ouiji boards and everything,
but yet nobody has a problem using a spirit box, onceing rods, pendulums,
tables, the same thing. Hollywood has spun its web and made people
think that all this is terrible. Yeah, I know, I believe you,
and and and that's part of what our show is is we want to
break that a little bit and say this is human, this is every one
of us. It's just when we're ready and when we find a way to
make it connect. And maybe that's part of why we've been on this journey,
so that at least bit by bit we can share that it's not easy,
right, you know, right, it isn't And now you know,
I still feel like I'm on a journey. I'm not there. I don't
know that we ever get there. You probably get there the day you die.
You're like, okay, you're done. No, then you got a
new job, you got to start all over it. It's like I was
thinking today about it, like an actor playing a role as human beings.
Maybe in these lives, this is a role that we play and when we're
done, well, you know, as a human being, as an actor,
you know, there's the next role, there's the next responding might be
a little break in between. I mean, after this life, I would
love to take a little cosmic vacation for a little bit, but then get
busy again and maybe then you step into another body, another life, and
another role for another purpose until that one's played, you know. But if
it's really nice there, I don't think I want to necessarily going off to
other places. I want to settle in for a while, you know.
But we've worked hard this time. I think this has been a hard our
journey for us. But I feel like I'm on the right track. I
feel like I'm in the right place. I was invited to. I think
I told you both. I was invited to Naples, Florida. I'm going
to be doing an event in Naples, Florida at the end of February.
And this is not a paranormal event at all. This is at a really
beautiful Spiritualist center in Naples. I'll be doing a gallery down there on Friday
night, private readings, there'll be somewhat of a lecture. I'll be speaking
at their Spiritualist service, and it should be a really nice experience. It's
very, very different from many of this paranormal stuff. But I I feel
like that's how I'm opening up and that's how I'm developing. Yep, and
I really think that it's it's uh, you know, I got to say
something. I'm hearing voices in my head and they're not the dead people.
So I think people are texting me and I have all I can hear.
Is I really damn hearing as I put my phone on like I thought,
and I'm like, I know, they're not like the spirit world, it
doesn't usually appear that way. I'm testing. I'm freaking out because the door
is closing, and then I realized the cats in here with me, So
what's going on if I go out? It's not usually that. Usually it's
it's uh, yeah, that's funny the real people. But anyway, so
yeah, I think that this show is going to be so unique because we're
going to touch all these subjects. Yeah, about ghost stories and and and
the premonitions and you know, Robert, you you'll share it in the show.
I mean, you have a couple of doozies. I mean one really
big one the premonition that you had that came to actually seeing plane crashes and
things. Yeah, like vividly, and it got to the point too.
You know, you talk about the difficulty you're losing your mind or is there
an attachment? For me? It's like, it's like, if I can't
help these people, you know, I saw things and they were verified.
But if I can't help them, then why am I seeing these Well,
I think I've learned since it was because there was a greater energy, a
greater connection that I needed to learn. But I didn't have anyone to guide
me that way. So I just said stop, please make it stop.
And it did for a while, it really shut down until until you know,
August August third of twenty thirteen, and you're back. Welcome. There
is a way to control some of this. And I didn't understand it at
the time. You know, I remember just standing around and people would talk
about their mother, and oh, here they are, they're right there.
It doesn't work so much that way anymore for me unless I want it to.
You know, if I am open to it, it can happen.
But generally speaking, I go about my life and I don't you know,
they have there's a time I have office hours, you know what I mean.
There's a time and place for them to come in and visit and otherwise
they're not there all the time. But but you're a professional though. That
is why you have learned your craft. And I'll call it a craft because
I think while other people may be able to sing or dance or whatever,
it takes a lot of training and a lot of practice to get to a
certain level. You have gone into that professional realm I have as an actor
and as a writer to do that after years and years of trial and air
practice and laughter and tears. But I think it's the same thing. You
know, if you have someone to teach you, or you learn to be
professional, then you can control I didn't know that at twenty five how to
to do that? You know, right, right, You're absolutely right.
But you know, I'm still learning. I'm still I'm still learning new things.
I have a mentor. His name is Joseph Shield. Joe Shield is
an internationally known medium. He's out of New Jersey. He is really,
you know, kind of a little celebrity in this world. He teaches all
over the place and he accepted me as one of his mentees. And so
I'm still doing that. I'm still learning because there are techniques and things that
I mean, you know, you don't know what you don't know right exactly.
Yeah, And it's trusting, it's learning to trust because you know this
is the thing. Right. So you'll people say, oh, I went
to a medium once they were fishing, and I'll say, well, how
were they fishing? Well, they were saying things like, you know,
did your mother have cancer? Or did your mother have pancreatis or whatever it
is? And you know, and I think, really, it's not that
they're not real, it's that they don't trust enough. Because you can say
it a different way listening. Your mom's here, she's telling me she had
pancreatic cancer. You'd understand that, wouldn't you. And that's how to say
it. But when if I said to you, your mom have pancreatic cancer,
it has a different connotation, right. It sounds like you're trying to
get information. A matter of confidence. It's a matter of trusting what you're
getting because spirit does not waste words at all. They don't. My little
experience is like no, and it's very specific and very direct, so it's
almost like you don't really need to fish, you know, if it makes
sense. And half the time for me, a lot of people go no,
no. It's amazing when they actually say but or afterwards they think about
it and it's like bingo, And that surprises me when when it again,
I'm a novice. I'm not. I'm not someone who's been taught, you
know, but I've had I would say three times over the last maybe month,
I've received emails from people a week after the reading and they said,
you know, I got home. I didn't understand it. I really thought
like, why did I even do this? Nobody came through, and then
all of a sudden it all fell into place talking to my next door neighbor,
and then all of a sudden it all came out. They don't mase
words. But the problem is is that even though you booked the reading,
it's not always you that the people are coming for. Sometimes they have a
message for somebody else. You know. You know, I told you the
story about having the reading with the woman or grandfather was here and all of
a sudden that you know who auditioned for American Idol? Random? Is that
right? I mean, you know people know someone that audition for American Idol.
And she said, well, my next door neighbor, but we're not
related. Yeah, right, you know that message is for her tell her
her baby's okay, and she had lost a baby. Wow. You know,
these are the things that happen and I and as the medium, I
don't know, you know, I only know what they tell me. I
don't know how it fits in. It's really like a pictionary. I don't
know how all the pieces sort of come together. You just present the puzzle
pieces and it's up to them to put it together. Donna says she needs
our help. I'm not sure what you need help with, Donna. If
you're still here and you want to chat in the in the box, please
feel free to say hello, or you can reach out through email or whatever.
Would be glad to see if we can we can help in some way.
So the show is at the Alley Theater in Middleborough, Massachusetts, and
our dear friend Andrea parent is going to be there on Sunday night and where
they are the following Thursday. I'm going down to see her on Sunday.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Is that you didn't tell me you were going to
see Andrea. Well, she's gonna be at the Alley Theater just a few
days before I she's talking about the conjuring and so yeah, I'm gonna come
down. I figure it's a Sunday, I have time to go. I
want to go down and see her. And plus you'll give me an opportunity
to talk to the woman who owns the theater, Lorna Lorna, And it
was the theater because I've not actually been in this theater myself, so it'll
be good to get in and get a sense of the stage and and what
we have to work with it. I'm gonna try. I promise, I'm
gonna try to come down if I come up for me on Sunday, but
I have to go back, but then I'll come back later in the week
obviously for our show. But I'll try. I don't know if I'm gonna
make it, but it would be low. Yeah. Well, I mean
it's not like you're next door, You're you're you know, you're in d
C. I'm in Boston. It's a it's a little bit of a track.
Piece of cake, piece of cake. But yeah, there, now
you're talking, and how do you know that isn't how I was going to
get there. We'll talk after the show. I just if this were bewitched,
i'd say, like I'm like Uncle Arthur is Mike there you go,
I love it him. Sammy today even she know that's so funny. She's
she's, well, you're Christina, but she was Sammy Samantha. Yeah,
yeah, yes, yeah, that was a fun show. I used to
love that show back then. Well see, because it was all about I
loved any show that had to do with science fiction or magic or I mean,
I think it's popular culture, but there was always something more to it,
wasn't there guys, you know, to watch it Bewitched in Star Trek.
But you know, you know it's so funny. You say that because
that's in my book. And and and I and I felt like I fit
in with these fictional people because they were just kind of fits, trying to
fit into a normal world. And I think to a certain extent that was
who I identified with. I was didn't quite understand why I was different than
everybody else, why I knew things or read people or understood I certainly didn't
think, oh I must be psychic. That wasn't it at all. But
I didn't understand it. And and you know, I felt like, in
some weird way I had a connection with them. Yeah, kind of funny
you know very much, so very much. So yeah, And I was
going to share with you guys the title, you know, Providence of the
Heart itself. This was the name of my autobiography, and then when Scott
and I were talking about names for the show, I've actually decided to change
the name of my autobiography to something very different that still has a spiritual significance.
Used to do a lot of automatic writing, and I learned about my
guides and I had a guy named Millie was identified to me through automatic writing,
and Millie would always say, when the time is right, eight above
the rest, you will know. She always closed with that. I don't
know why, but it was consistent. So I've changed the title to eight
above the Rest because it's also like intrigue, what the heck is this about?
But Province of the Heart was a blog that I started basically because of
my heart attack and your death experience, and when Scott and I were talking,
it seemed that this applied more to the nature the broader scope of the
show. So I'm happy that we're able to use this name because Providence has
many different meetings. It's not just a city in Rhode Island. Guys.
You know right, no, but it's true, and it's the show.
While it does have that sort of paranormal edge, really it is not so
much about that. It's about these everyday affirmations that life is truly eternal and
we all have a little piece of this magic in all of us. It's
just that we just need to stop and listen and pay attention and take a
breath, you know, take a breath. You really need to be.
Yeah, sometimes you just have to just be. It's the hardest thing.
People don't realize, you know, so and so, and I always say
too. And I think Robert, you'll find this out at some point too.
If I don't sleep at night, if I have a headache, I
get an argument with you know someone that you know, I can't read.
I can't do it. Interesting, it is not in the right place.
Too much energy or emotion that that blocks. You have to be in a
place that's that's free of all of that. And so I sit for five
ten minutes, and you know, spirit, I trust you, come and
use me. I'm just the instrument. That's it. And I don't have
to understand it. Just just use me and play me any way you want
and show me they use all of my life experiences, and I say,
it's kind of like you have this little five millisecond flash of something, you
know what, and in that is all this emotion and feelings and thoughts and
memories that not yours. It's like this cluster bomb, you know that goes
off your head. Yeah, but when your head doesn't have room for it,
it doesn't fit, it doesn't work. And that applies very much to
life. And that's sort of a point to me, at least of the
show too, which I was saying earlier, is that it's not just about
being able to see and hear spirit or to be psychic or to be a
medium. It is to live our lives. It is to have things happen
that are enriching that leads you on to the next step, opportunities that will
open up to you. Have nothing to do with dead people or ghosts or
spirit or anything. It's just to live life and embrace it. And a
dream that you have of something you want to have happen, and how you
work towards it. And you can work and work, but sometimes just opening
up listening to signs, following intuition, maybe I should call someone, don't
wait and call them tomorrow if you feel like doing it, call them now.
That may be exactly the moment they say, I was just thinking about
you. How often does that happen to all of us? Embrace that,
the relaxation that you're describing, Scott, and make that part of your life.
Even if you're never going to talk to anyone other than your coworkers.
You don't have to talk to Heaven or God or anyone just in your own
life. These are those little psychic things that happen to each of us.
That's psychic, that's what that is. And you and I we do this
all the time. I'll call you up, or I'll send you a message
thinking of you. Of course you didn't need to text, right. It's
so funny, do it? I mean it is. It's funny. But
we all can do that is my point. And and people can live their
lives more fulfilled. And the more you accept it, the more you let
go, the more it happens, and the more things fall. And it's
a living example, as many people may know or not. I literally recently
retired from a job as an executive director of a nonprofit arts organization to go
back into production to go back into this creative process with theater and plays.
And you know, many people said, we were wondering, Bob, when
you were going to finally come back to doing what you're doing. And I
love the festival, but there was time to move on. And it's scary
to move on and to give up, but it's exactly what I had to
do because everything was telling me this was right. And then all the reinforcement,
the validations as we say, happened afterwards. And you know, I'm
not there yet. We're all working, but they're amazing things that have opened
up, like working with Scott Allen and this Providence of the Heart and other
projects that it's it is magic. Magic is real and it's uplifting when you
can feel that. You know what I mean, It's it's crazy. It's
true. You're telling there, you are exactly, It's true. It's true.
So how can people get tickets to Providence of the Heart. Well,
your website for one, which is medium Scott Allen A L L A N
dot com. Correct. You can also just go to Providence of Theheart dot
com and either way it will take you to tickets are available on event bright
and Scott you had that trailer going by at the bottom. We didn't explain
what it was. It was key on the website on now oh oh just
doing that okay, but it's POH one zero POH providences are ten. We'll
give you ten dollars off any ticket right now, and the tickets are only
twenty five So that draps it what I can do mathema at fifteen. Oh,
there you go. You got all their save ten dollars and the tickets
are Now that we're getting into last week, the ticket sales are definitely picking
up and it's going faster. So it's a small theater. So if you
would like to come, if you're listening to this, I would say go
to event bright and do that. And a little secret, a little plug.
There is a brand new shop just opened recently in Middleborough called the Flying
Banana. They've got frozen bananas and banana treats and desserts there, really wonderful
and if you go into their store, they will give you a fifty percent
off code that you can use, So you can use POH and definitely save
the ten dollars or save fifty percent by going into the new Flying Banana and
enjoying matreatent. You can get there just for that, yeah, if you're
local. Otherwise you can use the you know, if you don't want to
go down there just to go to the store, you get ten doves has.
But it's important to say the tickets are only twenty five dollars to begin
with. So if you're right ten dollars, it's fifteen. And if you're
saving fifty is twelve fifty. I mean, god, you can't even go
to Starbucks, but twelve fifty anymore, you get your your Grande bent Well
exactly whatever. Yeah, and then honestly, the ticket price is right now.
It's a small theater. It's going to support the theater and to make
all that happen and to support that the wonderful programming that they're doing over there
at the Alley Theater. So I promise you, Scott and I are not
retiring on any of this at this moment. This is an investment of love
and spirit and guidance, and so we hope that you guys will come down
and really just share it, share the evening with us. We'd love to
meet you. And if you come right before intermission, Robert and I are
doing this really big dance number. There's tap, you have jazz hands,
a little potabouret and on a grapevine and you said you're tap dancing, Scott,
you said you were. It's gonna be a pay per view, Scott,
Gosh, I was auditioning for a show. This is gonna be like
twenty five or thirty years ago, and it was a it was a dance
show. And honestly, you know, I'm not a dancer at all.
And but yeah, you know, you go through the audition and you do
all the thing and the music. The choreographer said to me, man,
you are white, and he didn't meet like he meant my rhythm I had.
I had no rhythm all and you know, I was like, yeah,
I can't help it. I don't move well yeah, well for me.
Do you know how hard it is to find two shoes for left feet?
Yeah, two four four bear just to get the left feet. Yeah,
it's true bad. Yeah, But I hope if you're around you'll come
and join us. We're going to have a great time. Yeah. And
it's this is really unique because this is the first step towards I mean,
this is what this is the first thing before this goes on to a national
This is like a workshop. We called it a workshop and everyone was like,
wait a second, and we're gonna have to, you know, get
into sweats and exercise or something. No, no, it's not that kind
of a word shop. In theater. A workshop is trying something out in
front of an audience, trying the material, finding out if it resonates,
finding where the laughs are because there are funny things that happen too, and
also where the serious moments are. Is there a rhythm? You guys are
actually going to be part of a very creative theatrical process, which is fun.
I find it fun. You know, it's challenging, but that's that's
how things grow. It doesn't. Nothing opens up on Broadway like immediately.
They've gone through various, various versions and various sometimes years of development to get
to be really sharp. So this is this is kind of fun as fun
for me because you know, if you don't know Robert, he has opened
some big shows in New York and in the West End of London, and
so this he's not, you know, this this ham and Egger. I
mean, he knows, he knows what he should be Hammy, I mean,
yeah, well, you know you know, you know, But but
the fact is, he knows what he's doing, and he's done this before,
and so I'm so excited to be a part of this this event.
I just I just can't wait to get out there and do this. Plus,
I haven't been on a stage in a few years, other than other
than my galleries, not since my son was born. The last show I
did was probably What Is He? Ten? It was probably twelve years ago,
ten, twelve years ago. And the nature of it too is it's
while it is theatrical because we're on a stage and we have some planned projections
that will support it and things, and there are some basic theater lights.
This is really kind of like the show we're doing now. It's a conversation
with the audience. It's sharing stories in a very relaxed way. And while
the audience wouldn't necessarily ask, we're not having a Q and A in the
middle of the show. We're going to have a reception afterwards where they're going
to have drinks and food. You know, I think the theater has some
for sale. They're very reasonable, but that will be there to do meet
and greet and answer all sorts of questions. But it's more relaxed. Anyway,
it's a conversation. It's not Ley miz So if you're expecting that it's
not Ley miz Right or Phantom of the Opera or hopefully it's less miserable than
lay Mize, well listen. It just had fifteen thousand performances in the West
End of London. It's still running. When I worked in the West End,
they opened while my show that I was working on it for. The
producer called Me and My Girl a British musical. We won Best Musical that
year against like miss. They were also cocky sure that we're going, I'm
gonna have to jump in. I'm getting signs over here. Anyway, I'm
just saying the show is run forever. So yeah, yeah, but this
is the first step. And so if you've never been to a workshop,
if you've never been to a show before it goes on to bigger and better
things. This is a great opportunity to check it out and friendly little theater
with some good people and yeah, yeah, so we're going to do that.
And I also want to say just another couple of little announcements. We
only have a couple of minutes left. Actually, actually I think we're at
a time. Is that what we're getting? It's like, yeah, over
here on the side, you're about to go into the show right. Oh,
you know why because we started late, that's why. Yeah, all
right, let's go, ladies than here come see as a providence of the
heart. Thank you everybody. Next week, celebrating everybody you've been listening to
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