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Welcome to the Paranormal Project Radio Show. Journey with us through mystical realms to

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a world of the unexplained. If
you're ready, take a deep breath and

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let curiosity be your guide. And
now here are your hosts, Spirit medium

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Scott Allen and Christina Bowen, the
Green Witch of Tennessee. Hello, everyone,

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and welcome back to the Paranormal Project
Radio Show. It's so good to

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be with you this Wednesday evening.
Hello, my friend Christina, how are

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you? Thanks, I'm excited.
I'm excited too, but I have to

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apologie. You guys were a few
minutes behind because you know it sounds like

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a joke. You know what happens
when two mediums and a witch walk into

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a bar, well, you get
electronic troubles, And this is what happens,

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and everything is going to wonko.
So we had to delay the show

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by a couple of minutes. But
we're here. Hello, Melissa Blackman,

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so good to see you as well. So welcome. I'm so excited for

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this show today. My good friend
Robert Neil Marshall is our guest for tonight,

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and you may have remembered him from
last season. You may also remember

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him from well, if you watched
House of Cards the final season episode one,

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he was on House of Cards.
He's a producer, he's a filmmaker,

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he's a director, he's done casting, he's done everything. And he

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is here with us tonight to talk
about a new show that he has asked

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me to join him in, and
it's called Providence of the Heart. And

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I think you're going to love hearing
about this. If you're into near death

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experiences and past lives and premonitions and
mediumship and ghosts, well that's what this

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this show is about. So I'd
like to welcome my friend Robert Neil Marshall

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back to the show. Hello,
how are you Robert? Hey everyone,

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good to see you guys. Thank
you so much for having me back.

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This is this is really cool and
yeah there is there's like energy in the

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air, is all I can say
tonight. Right, it's all crazy.

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I break things, so that's kind
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them. I look at like Creskin. Remember Crescin used to bend metal and

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all of that. That's really cool, which is that will be I will

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be with the amazing Crescin in just
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that story. No, that's so
cool. So I am going to be

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at Salem State College on Bedform's Day
weekend November eleventh and twelfth. They have

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a gallery there on the Saturday and
the Sunday, and one of the other

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guests is the amazing Creskin and he's
got his own show I think after us

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on that day, so I'll be
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say, we were just talking about
you. You know, maybe it was

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probably knows that Melissa. Thank you
for the message, thank you for welcoming

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me back. So yeah, yeah, yeah, So Robert, I'm excited.

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You know, our show goes live
next week at the end Borrow,

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and it seems like it's been a
long haul, but but really this is

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just the first step for us on
a on a trip to a much bigger,

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much bigger production. We hope,
we hope and people here in the

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Massachusetts area that would like to see
Providence of the Heart. But we're going

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to tell you a little bit about
that tonight. Robert, do you want

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to share a little bit about how
this show came to be? Well,

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the story that I know you like
to say about how we actually met,

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you know, just sort of some
mutual friends in the in the industry,

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you could say, but that you
had John Zapfis on your show a few

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months back, and I saw that, and you and I'd been talking and

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I wrote you and I said,
wait a second, this is the John

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sapphis I said, I played him
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Haunting, and and so you invited
me on on on the show and I

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got to meet John virtually, and
it was it was really amazing because he's

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got quite a powerful reputation in this
realm. And uh, it was I

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was honored to play him. But
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they record the celebrity person if you
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And then we actors were we're doing
the dialogue, we're re enacting,

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and there were some possession scenes with
people floating in the air and all sorts

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of crazy stuff. So yeah,
it was good for good fun, not

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like a good possession to light up
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a year actor, it's it's it's
it's done and not a real you know,

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there are ways to make it happen. It's it's very fake, but

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we make it look real, make
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magic of movies is all about.
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We met, and you know,
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you had your experiences and I've had
mine opening to mediumship and and in some

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ways they're different. In some ways
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know, we talked about what the
medium and the Nearly Dead guy and yeah,

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that was one of the early titles. Yeah, yeah, and another

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one we're going to call it is
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Yeah yeah, medium at large.
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medium, but small. I like
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I love that. Yeah, it's
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to get her tall enough. Just
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of those little cranks, right,
I do, I really do? Tell

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us what where this started for you? I mean, you know, what

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had come to be the idea for
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mean, I mean it's on your
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it's it's a lifelong thing that sort
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ten years ago I had a massive
heart attack, I went into v FIN,

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I had the widow Maker. They
call it. I'd had GI issues

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that were undiagnosed, so when I
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lift in just a few minutes,
because the pain always lifted and went away,

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I kind of walked around and did
what I normally did, thinking this

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will go away and we'll talk about
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when we do these things, I
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They have to come see the show
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I literally googled heart attack symptoms and
went through a checklist that says, if

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any one of these happened within you
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one within five minutes. And I'm
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this is forty five to fifty minutes
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believe, as I'm sure many people
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real. You don't believe you're actually
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last symptom, but all the symptoms
were things that I had with these GI

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issues. Later found out to be
a very badly infected gallbladder and pancreatitis and

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things. I learned that after the
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for it to go away. And
the last one on the list was nausea,

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and I never had nausea with these
previous attacks. And I thought,

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if I didn't know any better,
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And I was prompted to call nine
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What if I'm wrong. I don't
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I think all of us just those
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voice in my head just said,
hit the button now. And I had

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only about two and a half minutes
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They asked me a couple of questions
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or something, and I'm like,
wait, wait, don't tell me,

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don't tell me. I know the
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that something was wrong, and I
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arms besides my chest, which was
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it was lower, but it would
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was it was different, and they
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had a bathrobe on. It was
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twenty thirteen, and they said,
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to your chest. I'm like,
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and I said, it's like changing
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of a sudden, I'm completely somewhere
else. I am no longer there in

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an ambulance. I had no idea
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had no idea that I'd been sick. I'm just new reality. And it

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went on from there. But that
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to it, I was I was
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a past life review. I guess
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I meant from my current life.
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in my past in this life.
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episodes, I was shown, well
I needed to come back. And they

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they explained to me later that when
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just quivers like jello. It's not
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v FIB, I was no longer
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unconscious, everything had stopped. And
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because in the movies they always make
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they suddenly back to life, and
all these paramedics and go oh no,

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no, no, no, Bob. When we shock you, you flat

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line. It's meant to break the
rhythm that's gone crazy. You could see

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it like an oscilloscope. It's just
quivering. And when they flatline you,

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then they literally do CPR. They
pound on you and hopefully they get you

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back. And I've since read only
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happen come out alive and make it
through. And so I just feel like

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I was guided by other forces,
if you will, to get me to

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where I needed to be so I
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which apparently inspires a lot of people. When I have one on one

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conversations, people are either curious or
very frightened about death and what it means

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and psychic things, and it's spooky
for some people. And there's a lot

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of love and a lot of joy
connected with as we all know, our

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spiritual connection to things, and so
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sort of like almost like a mission, if that sounds right. I don't

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mean it in a religious way,
but like a job to come back and

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help other people feel inspired, comforted, know that there's more, and to

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live up to our true potential spiritually
emotionally, because then your life comes together.

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And that I think prompted the show
because now we can reach more people

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to do that. Have I made
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It makes perfect sense. I do
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sure your mediumship gifts. Did that
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It's interesting. I will admit that
I've learned things from Scott. In working

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with Scott, I mean he's become
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happening. A lot just happened today, I mean literally today. I'll tell

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you this story in a second,
but I had psychic things that happened before

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and when I was younger, and
that was triggered by a story I wrote

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that was a fantasy story in my
mind about a man who lived in the

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seventeen nineties and died during the French
Revolution, but I wrote my own interpretation

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of what it was like to die. And then this was just when the

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doctor Raymond Moody's book Life After Life
was just coming out. It's now common

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knowledge these near death experiences. Back
then, I thought I made up my

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own. This was a fictional story
which all of a sudden one hundred and

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twenty five other people are describing that
I knew nothing about. And I'm like,

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how did I know these things?
Right? If I never actually died,

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how could I possibly know these things
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that opened up a doorway, and
then from that point on, believe it

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or not, that opened up a
gateway or a doorway to a lot of

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very vivid psychic experiences, many of
which frightened me. But it got really

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intense. It was validated that there
was no question something was going on after

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my real life near death experience many
years later. I mean, as I've

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said, it's like someone turned the
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now that I wasn't before, and
no fear of death. I'm very comfortable

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with all of it. And it's
people say, well, do you have

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like some death wish. I was
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all. I mean, but it's
just if it were happen, I'm totally

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good with it. But I know
it's not going to happen til I'm ready,

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because I got things to do and
my job isn't done. And we

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all here to be here as long
as we need to be here, and

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we worry about so much that we
can't control. Live your life, open

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up except it. That's kind of
the message of the show. And you

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know, I think we get you
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many of the same ways because you
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fear of death, and of course, I've been working in a funeral home

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since I was sixteen years old.
You know, I started out in high

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school. I was cleaning and vacuuming
and washing cars and doing all of those

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sorts of things. I wasn't directing
funerals, but I was certainly around it.

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And you know, in those little
psychic pieces that you don't really at

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the time, you pass them off
as a coincidence, but you know it's

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not. I mean, in hindsight, I look back at some of these

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things and I think, oh God, that was something, you know,

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And we'll tell a story in the
show about how I got called out to

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a house for someone who had passed
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I was about seventeen years old at
the time, and I said to the

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man I worked for, Wow,
how do they know he's dead? And

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he's a question that I mean,
you know, they do this all the

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time. Just get dressed, let's
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but but but how do they know? You know? I mean, I

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know they do it all the time, but how do they know? You

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know? And the answer should have
been, well, the medical examiner went,

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or the doctor went, or you
know something, the EMPs were there,

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who knows. But I had this
and I couldn't shake it, like

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the ceiling. Yeah, I couldn't
shake the feeling. And we went to

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get in the car and leave,
and the phone rang and I ran back

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and I answered the phone and it
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don't we found a breath? Wow? And I thought, that's just

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yeah. But but you know,
you know, chalked it up to coincidence,

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and well that was really strange.
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there were a lot of incidents really
well exactly there aren't. But but but

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we're taught to believe there are and
when and I don't know. Everyone has

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a different background, whether it's a
religious background or not religious. But it's

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sort of like, well, you
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get that a lot, you know, or or you know, my mother

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would always tell me, you're too
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this and that and the other thing. The fact was I was reading people,

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and I didn't realize I was reading
what you can call it empathy,

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you can call it whatever it is. But I knew when I jibed with

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someone, I could tell you in
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And and I wanted to be friends
with you, or I knew right

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off the bat I wanted nothing to
do with you. And it would sometimes

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drive my mother crazy, because you
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so you know, you know,
just I was not that way. I

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was. I was just a little
more picky. But I really think it

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was being able to read and understand
who these people are. I just got

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the vibe almost immediately whether I like
that person or not. You know,

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to learn to trust those feelings too. I mean that's the hard part as

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well. I think what you've taught
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you're making it up, and that's
what I felt. I felt I was

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making up things in my head because
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when I say something to somebody,
they're astounded or like the remarkable coincidence that

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you could have a thousand possible names
that would come to your head, or

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a thousand possible things, but the
one thing that pops in your head suddenly

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means something. Or sometimes they're like, no, no, that doesn't mean

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anything, and then they go,
oh my gosh, wait a minute,

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oh oh wow. You know,
it just takes a moment, and it's

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not fishing for things. It's it's
very specific things that are going to mean

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something to some one that is not
just random. It's that kind of a

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thing. Well, and I will
tell you any medium I know, and

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I don't care how old they are
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will tell me that they still they
trust. But there are those moments when

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you say to yourself, I'm not
saying that. I was in Maine over

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the weekend and I sat with a
woman. I was reading her and I

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remember I said to her, look, this is bizarre. I have no

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idea why I got this, but
I'm going to share it with you anyway,

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you know. And I'm thinking in
my head, I hope this means

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something, because this is wonky.
And I said to her, I said,

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why is he showing me a whole
bunch of cracker barrel restaurants? I'm

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seeing them like in a line,
are on a map. I mean,

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like what, this is crazy?
And she went like this went oh my

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god. I said, you understand
that? And she said yeah, because

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every time we went somewhere, we
took a root so that he could make

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sure he at every one of the
cracker barrel roll right on the way,

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and he would map them out and
no exactly way he could hit them.

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And I thought, you can't make
this stuff up. And that doesn't apply

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to everybody, that someone would have
something that specific, right, No,

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no, no, no. And
that's the stuff, you know, that's

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the stuff where you go, look, I don't know why I'm getting this.

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It's so random and so out there, but those are those little nuggets

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of information that makes someone go,
oh my god, that has to be

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my dad. Who could come on
from the confidence and that I firmly believe

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that's how Spirit let somebody know whether
you're dealing with a legit medium or not.

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Right right, you know, there's
some kind of message it would come

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through. You could fly the discount
cheap airline. You can go with the

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good airlines, Spiritual, Spirit,
Spirit Spirit. I mean nothing against Spirit

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airlines, but it worries me to
fly an airline called Spirit. I mean,

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particularly in our realm. If you
don't want to become one while you're

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in we'll anyway. Sorry. I
hope we don't get sued by Spirit airlines.

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They're wonderful. They're really good people, great flights, good prices.

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But today I was gonna tell you
that. Sorry. The woman today,

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a friend of mine, rather a
man, I was speaking to about something

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completely unrelated, and we start talking
about medical history because he's going to have

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a liver transplant soon, he was
telling me, and then he mentioned something

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about his mother passing, and the
second he did, I just bam in

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my head. I was just telling
Scott about this, a glass of champagne,

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very sophific, like a toast or
champagne glasses, and I was thinking,

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I just do we lose Scott,
uh h, keep going, He'll

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post on the air. Okay's back
so he knows the story. So I'll

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tell you Christine. So so literally
the two glasses clink together. In my

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head, I see the champagne.
I thought, well, anybody's got champagne.

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Don't bother say so I said something
that, just say something? So

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I did. I said, hey, I said, does two champagne glasses

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or champagne or a toast? Does
that mean anything specific to you about your

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mom? And I said if it
doesn't, I said, you know,

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just think about it maybe later.
And he goes, oh my god,

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no, you won't believe this.
I'm like, what what? Because I'm

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thinking again, like Nancy says,
you feel like a fraud. You know,

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You're like, I'm making this up. But he said, my mother

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never drank in her entire life.
And then she was diagnosed she had a

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life threatening illness. And on her
latter days, it was her birthday and

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she said, what the h I'm
just gonna have something to drink. And

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we had a very special toast and
it was champagne, and we did this

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and then she said she had so
much that she went into the bathroom.

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She came out with the toilet paper
bow in her hair, right, And

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while Champagne you could say, all
right, Bob, Champagne could mean anything

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to anybody. Everyone's had something with
Champagne. That was a very specific message

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that meant something. There he is. You missed the story, Scott,

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but we talked about it today.
I was just share you with Christina the

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whole thing. I wasn't really gone. Oh he was hiding, he was,

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but anyway, but yeah, and
so, but it's magical things like

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that that and I won't tell the
whole story. But a woman she had

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a little bug in her hair,
like a little ladybug, and we know

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that ladybugs and moths and butterflies are
very symbolic. I just said, you

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know, she said, oh,
thank you for taking the bug out of

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my hair. I was like,
well, that was your dear aunt Rachel

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saying hello, you know. And
I was joking. And then afterwards the

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second I said, I was like, actually, no, really, do

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you happen to have an aunt Rachel? Just no, no, I don't.

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I'm like, okay, never mind, but my daughter's name is Rachel,

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you know, out of millions of
thousands of it. And then again

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her mother found out what was not
with us, she said, well that

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was Rachel was my mother's favorite grandchild. She says, after I had Rachel,

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I didn't need to have any more
grandchildren. So come on, Rachel,

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how many all them would come out? I could have said a thousand

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names from the baby book, right, So it's it's it's subtle, it's

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very simple, but it happens when
and where and how, you know.

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I love stories like that, the
synchronicities. Yeah, Nancy says, no

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more potty breaks on company. You're
bust Scott. Oh, we're having fun

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here. Come on, guys,
we're having cocktail before the show. But

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Nancy piss off literally figured out.
But anyway, I guess getting us back

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on track though. But the show
that Scott and I are doing really it's

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it's the two of us are telling
the story of our lives in key moments

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that deal with our discovery of our
abilities, dealing with the fear and the

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unknown of those abilities, and the
challenges in our own lives. Scott working

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in the funeral home and growing up
there and me, you know, psychic

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things and having this sort of past
life thing that then turned on some switch

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and and then for me actually having
a near death experience and going through and

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the changes that happened, and and
as again a message to everyone about this

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isn't just special to us. We
all have this connection. I've joked I

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got hit in the head with a
sledgehammer, you know, by my heart

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attack to turn it on. But
I think other people you can do that

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just by learning how to get in
touch or pay attention to those little moments.

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It's true. And you know,
for me, it wasn't all fun

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and games either. You talk about
getting in the hit in the head with

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a sledgeham, it was. It
was frightening. Actually, it was absolutely

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frightening. And you know, I
didn't know what was going on. I

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thought, man, do I have
an attachment or you know, is this

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mental illness? I mean, these
are things that you know when time spirits

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said okay, time's up, let's
get moving. And it was absolutely frightening.

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I mean I had spirits calling me
out, you know, on the

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radio, I mean on I would
go on investigations with people who would ghost

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hunting. I remember once I was
on a I was on an investigation and

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we had a spirit spirit box going
and somebody said, do you know anybody's

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name here, you know, classic, classic, and you were about twelve

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to fifteen of them calling out my
name. It was crazy. Oh wow,

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and I haven't recorded. I'll show
you some time, Christina. I

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mean it was just you've got well
had that happened at Randolph County. Your

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name was called actually all the time, they called me all the time,

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and the famous among the dead.
I am famous among the dead, and

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yeah, clearly, yeah, no, I mean I all want to get

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in line and talk with you through
you reach their family. You know,

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you are clearly a bright, shining
billboard to them. Whatever it looks like

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on the other side that says open
for business. You know. They say

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that your light burns differently when you
do this work. I don't know if

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that's true. I mean, it
might be just a way of explaining it.

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But they find us, they find
us, and it's really crazy,

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you know. And and you know, sometimes you'll watch some of these paranormal

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shows and you'll get EVPs and sometimes
you're really straining to hear it and to

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really understand, or sometimes it's really
a breathy or whispery and you've got to

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really like ear up to it.
I put on earphones and I was getting

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stuff that was just it was like
they were in the room with us,

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talking in on the recorder. It
was it was crazy, absolutely crazy.

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But it wasn't all fun and games. It was frightening and it took a

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long time to figure out what was
going on, and to you know,

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accepting it was was a challenge.
It was even longer. Did you have

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someone you could turn to that was
could be a guide or some other medium

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at the time, yeah, yeah, at the time, there was a

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medium that I had met and I
called her because I thought I had an

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attachment. I wasn't thinking, you
know, I wasn't ready to go down

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the mental illness route I had started
to. I was ahead of that.

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I started recording things that were happening, like when they started calling my name

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and David and all this other business, and so I recorded it and I

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figured, well, if I can
hear it and you can hear it,

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then I'm not crazy. You know, you couldn't hear it. I had

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bigger problems than just an attachment.
But I was pretty convinced that something had

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gotten hold of me, and I
didn't know what to do. So I

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reached out to her and I said, look, this is you know,

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you feel like you feel like an
idiot, right Like I got the spirit

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after me. I think that's what
I said, the spirit after me.

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And we met, and she's the
one that kind of she was testing me,

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without testing me, without telling me, you know that she was testing.

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But I really think she wanted to
find out what was going on.

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And she's the one that told me
what was happening, and I did not

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believe her. I always say,
you know, I saw the movie Ghost

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with Whoopi Goldberg, and that is
not at all what was happening to me.

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Right well, I was gonna say
popular movies and these paranormal shows they

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are sensationalists in so many ways,
and they do play upon the fear to

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sell movies. Even when we're talking
about the Conjuring House, how the movie

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is very different. And Andrea Parrin
very kindly through you Scott when we were

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invited on her show. I mean
to learn that there's there was a lot

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of love and there's actually something really
beautiful behind it, and that that's a

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bad rap. I think that popularity
or sensationalism does to this. That's what

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sells tickets. Our seals. He's
freaked out by Ouiji boards and everything,

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but yet nobody has a problem using
a spirit box, onceing rods, pendulums,

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tables, the same thing. Hollywood
has spun its web and made people

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think that all this is terrible.
Yeah, I know, I believe you,

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and and and that's part of what
our show is is we want to

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break that a little bit and say
this is human, this is every one

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of us. It's just when we're
ready and when we find a way to

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make it connect. And maybe that's
part of why we've been on this journey,

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so that at least bit by bit
we can share that it's not easy,

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right, you know, right,
it isn't And now you know,

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I still feel like I'm on a
journey. I'm not there. I don't

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know that we ever get there.
You probably get there the day you die.

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You're like, okay, you're done. No, then you got a

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new job, you got to start
all over it. It's like I was

410
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,119
thinking today about it, like an
actor playing a role as human beings.

411
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,359
Maybe in these lives, this is
a role that we play and when we're

412
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,920
done, well, you know,
as a human being, as an actor,

413
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,400
you know, there's the next role, there's the next responding might be

414
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,440
a little break in between. I
mean, after this life, I would

415
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,640
love to take a little cosmic vacation
for a little bit, but then get

416
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,680
busy again and maybe then you step
into another body, another life, and

417
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,680
another role for another purpose until that
one's played, you know. But if

418
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,039
it's really nice there, I don't
think I want to necessarily going off to

419
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:17,839
other places. I want to settle
in for a while, you know.

420
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,759
But we've worked hard this time.
I think this has been a hard our

421
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:26,079
journey for us. But I feel
like I'm on the right track. I

422
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,759
feel like I'm in the right place. I was invited to. I think

423
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,519
I told you both. I was
invited to Naples, Florida. I'm going

424
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:33,920
to be doing an event in Naples, Florida at the end of February.

425
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,039
And this is not a paranormal event
at all. This is at a really

426
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:44,400
beautiful Spiritualist center in Naples. I'll
be doing a gallery down there on Friday

427
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,759
night, private readings, there'll be
somewhat of a lecture. I'll be speaking

428
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:55,359
at their Spiritualist service, and it
should be a really nice experience. It's

429
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,440
very, very different from many of
this paranormal stuff. But I I feel

430
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,839
like that's how I'm opening up and
that's how I'm developing. Yep, and

431
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:12,279
I really think that it's it's uh, you know, I got to say

432
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:17,839
something. I'm hearing voices in my
head and they're not the dead people.

433
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,400
So I think people are texting me
and I have all I can hear.

434
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,200
Is I really damn hearing as I
put my phone on like I thought,

435
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:30,559
and I'm like, I know,
they're not like the spirit world, it

436
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,960
doesn't usually appear that way. I'm
testing. I'm freaking out because the door

437
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:41,200
is closing, and then I realized
the cats in here with me, So

438
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:47,400
what's going on if I go out? It's not usually that. Usually it's

439
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,240
it's uh, yeah, that's funny
the real people. But anyway, so

440
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:56,920
yeah, I think that this show
is going to be so unique because we're

441
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,799
going to touch all these subjects.
Yeah, about ghost stories and and and

442
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:07,079
the premonitions and you know, Robert, you you'll share it in the show.

443
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:08,839
I mean, you have a couple
of doozies. I mean one really

444
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:15,119
big one the premonition that you had
that came to actually seeing plane crashes and

445
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,640
things. Yeah, like vividly,
and it got to the point too.

446
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,680
You know, you talk about the
difficulty you're losing your mind or is there

447
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,960
an attachment? For me? It's
like, it's like, if I can't

448
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,440
help these people, you know,
I saw things and they were verified.

449
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,640
But if I can't help them,
then why am I seeing these Well,

450
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,400
I think I've learned since it was
because there was a greater energy, a

451
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,400
greater connection that I needed to learn. But I didn't have anyone to guide

452
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,200
me that way. So I just
said stop, please make it stop.

453
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:49,759
And it did for a while,
it really shut down until until you know,

454
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,119
August August third of twenty thirteen,
and you're back. Welcome. There

455
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,400
is a way to control some of
this. And I didn't understand it at

456
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,279
the time. You know, I
remember just standing around and people would talk

457
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,319
about their mother, and oh,
here they are, they're right there.

458
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:12,839
It doesn't work so much that way
anymore for me unless I want it to.

459
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,880
You know, if I am open
to it, it can happen.

460
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,200
But generally speaking, I go about
my life and I don't you know,

461
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:23,079
they have there's a time I have
office hours, you know what I mean.

462
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:27,079
There's a time and place for them
to come in and visit and otherwise

463
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,359
they're not there all the time.
But but you're a professional though. That

464
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,839
is why you have learned your craft. And I'll call it a craft because

465
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,960
I think while other people may be
able to sing or dance or whatever,

466
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:38,680
it takes a lot of training and
a lot of practice to get to a

467
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,720
certain level. You have gone into
that professional realm I have as an actor

468
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,359
and as a writer to do that
after years and years of trial and air

469
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,240
practice and laughter and tears. But
I think it's the same thing. You

470
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,119
know, if you have someone to
teach you, or you learn to be

471
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,839
professional, then you can control I
didn't know that at twenty five how to

472
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:07,319
to do that? You know,
right, right, You're absolutely right.

473
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:12,240
But you know, I'm still learning. I'm still I'm still learning new things.

474
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,119
I have a mentor. His name
is Joseph Shield. Joe Shield is

475
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:21,240
an internationally known medium. He's out
of New Jersey. He is really,

476
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,920
you know, kind of a little
celebrity in this world. He teaches all

477
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,720
over the place and he accepted me
as one of his mentees. And so

478
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:34,519
I'm still doing that. I'm still
learning because there are techniques and things that

479
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,519
I mean, you know, you
don't know what you don't know right exactly.

480
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:46,240
Yeah, And it's trusting, it's
learning to trust because you know this

481
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,640
is the thing. Right. So
you'll people say, oh, I went

482
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720
to a medium once they were fishing, and I'll say, well, how

483
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,920
were they fishing? Well, they
were saying things like, you know,

484
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,880
did your mother have cancer? Or
did your mother have pancreatis or whatever it

485
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:07,079
is? And you know, and
I think, really, it's not that

486
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:12,719
they're not real, it's that they
don't trust enough. Because you can say

487
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,239
it a different way listening. Your
mom's here, she's telling me she had

488
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,800
pancreatic cancer. You'd understand that,
wouldn't you. And that's how to say

489
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,400
it. But when if I said
to you, your mom have pancreatic cancer,

490
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,840
it has a different connotation, right. It sounds like you're trying to

491
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:37,639
get information. A matter of confidence. It's a matter of trusting what you're

492
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:43,679
getting because spirit does not waste words
at all. They don't. My little

493
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,519
experience is like no, and it's
very specific and very direct, so it's

494
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:51,679
almost like you don't really need to
fish, you know, if it makes

495
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,320
sense. And half the time for
me, a lot of people go no,

496
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,000
no. It's amazing when they actually
say but or afterwards they think about

497
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:05,119
it and it's like bingo, And
that surprises me when when it again,

498
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:07,000
I'm a novice. I'm not.
I'm not someone who's been taught, you

499
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,840
know, but I've had I would
say three times over the last maybe month,

500
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,719
I've received emails from people a week
after the reading and they said,

501
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,800
you know, I got home.
I didn't understand it. I really thought

502
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,679
like, why did I even do
this? Nobody came through, and then

503
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:27,719
all of a sudden it all fell
into place talking to my next door neighbor,

504
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,599
and then all of a sudden it
all came out. They don't mase

505
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,880
words. But the problem is is
that even though you booked the reading,

506
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,880
it's not always you that the people
are coming for. Sometimes they have a

507
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,559
message for somebody else. You know. You know, I told you the

508
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,599
story about having the reading with the
woman or grandfather was here and all of

509
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:51,760
a sudden that you know who auditioned
for American Idol? Random? Is that

510
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,719
right? I mean, you know
people know someone that audition for American Idol.

511
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,360
And she said, well, my
next door neighbor, but we're not

512
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,679
related. Yeah, right, you
know that message is for her tell her

513
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:07,280
her baby's okay, and she had
lost a baby. Wow. You know,

514
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,159
these are the things that happen and
I and as the medium, I

515
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,480
don't know, you know, I
only know what they tell me. I

516
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,679
don't know how it fits in.
It's really like a pictionary. I don't

517
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,199
know how all the pieces sort of
come together. You just present the puzzle

518
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:29,000
pieces and it's up to them to
put it together. Donna says she needs

519
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,480
our help. I'm not sure what
you need help with, Donna. If

520
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,639
you're still here and you want to
chat in the in the box, please

521
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,559
feel free to say hello, or
you can reach out through email or whatever.

522
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:44,440
Would be glad to see if we
can we can help in some way.

523
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,039
So the show is at the Alley
Theater in Middleborough, Massachusetts, and

524
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:54,480
our dear friend Andrea parent is going
to be there on Sunday night and where

525
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,880
they are the following Thursday. I'm
going down to see her on Sunday.

526
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:06,639
Yeah yeah, yeah, Is that
you didn't tell me you were going to

527
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,840
see Andrea. Well, she's gonna
be at the Alley Theater just a few

528
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,719
days before I she's talking about the
conjuring and so yeah, I'm gonna come

529
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,800
down. I figure it's a Sunday, I have time to go. I

530
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,519
want to go down and see her. And plus you'll give me an opportunity

531
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:23,159
to talk to the woman who owns
the theater, Lorna Lorna, And it

532
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,199
was the theater because I've not actually
been in this theater myself, so it'll

533
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,360
be good to get in and get
a sense of the stage and and what

534
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,480
we have to work with it.
I'm gonna try. I promise, I'm

535
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,039
gonna try to come down if I
come up for me on Sunday, but

536
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:38,559
I have to go back, but
then I'll come back later in the week

537
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:42,679
obviously for our show. But I'll
try. I don't know if I'm gonna

538
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,559
make it, but it would be
low. Yeah. Well, I mean

539
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:46,119
it's not like you're next door,
You're you're you know, you're in d

540
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,320
C. I'm in Boston. It's
a it's a little bit of a track.

541
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:58,960
Piece of cake, piece of cake. But yeah, there, now

542
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,360
you're talking, and how do you
know that isn't how I was going to

543
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:09,000
get there. We'll talk after the
show. I just if this were bewitched,

544
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:13,840
i'd say, like I'm like Uncle
Arthur is Mike there you go,

545
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:24,880
I love it him. Sammy today
even she know that's so funny. She's

546
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,159
she's, well, you're Christina,
but she was Sammy Samantha. Yeah,

547
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:34,079
yeah, yes, yeah, that
was a fun show. I used to

548
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,400
love that show back then. Well
see, because it was all about I

549
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,440
loved any show that had to do
with science fiction or magic or I mean,

550
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,519
I think it's popular culture, but
there was always something more to it,

551
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,679
wasn't there guys, you know,
to watch it Bewitched in Star Trek.

552
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,159
But you know, you know it's
so funny. You say that because

553
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,320
that's in my book. And and
and I and I felt like I fit

554
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,679
in with these fictional people because they
were just kind of fits, trying to

555
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:04,559
fit into a normal world. And
I think to a certain extent that was

556
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:08,800
who I identified with. I was
didn't quite understand why I was different than

557
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,719
everybody else, why I knew things
or read people or understood I certainly didn't

558
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,159
think, oh I must be psychic. That wasn't it at all. But

559
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,719
I didn't understand it. And and
you know, I felt like, in

560
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:29,519
some weird way I had a connection
with them. Yeah, kind of funny

561
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,280
you know very much, so very
much. So yeah, And I was

562
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,440
going to share with you guys the
title, you know, Providence of the

563
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,920
Heart itself. This was the name
of my autobiography, and then when Scott

564
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,760
and I were talking about names for
the show, I've actually decided to change

565
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,000
the name of my autobiography to something
very different that still has a spiritual significance.

566
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,039
Used to do a lot of automatic
writing, and I learned about my

567
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:57,400
guides and I had a guy named
Millie was identified to me through automatic writing,

568
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,159
and Millie would always say, when
the time is right, eight above

569
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:04,440
the rest, you will know.
She always closed with that. I don't

570
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,440
know why, but it was consistent. So I've changed the title to eight

571
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,719
above the Rest because it's also like
intrigue, what the heck is this about?

572
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,519
But Province of the Heart was a
blog that I started basically because of

573
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:19,159
my heart attack and your death experience, and when Scott and I were talking,

574
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:22,320
it seemed that this applied more to
the nature the broader scope of the

575
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:29,320
show. So I'm happy that we're
able to use this name because Providence has

576
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,280
many different meetings. It's not just
a city in Rhode Island. Guys.

577
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:38,480
You know right, no, but
it's true, and it's the show.

578
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,960
While it does have that sort of
paranormal edge, really it is not so

579
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:51,320
much about that. It's about these
everyday affirmations that life is truly eternal and

580
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,519
we all have a little piece of
this magic in all of us. It's

581
00:40:53,599 --> 00:41:00,440
just that we just need to stop
and listen and pay attention and take a

582
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,519
breath, you know, take a
breath. You really need to be.

583
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,599
Yeah, sometimes you just have to
just be. It's the hardest thing.

584
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:13,280
People don't realize, you know,
so and so, and I always say

585
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960
too. And I think Robert,
you'll find this out at some point too.

586
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:20,239
If I don't sleep at night,
if I have a headache, I

587
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,079
get an argument with you know someone
that you know, I can't read.

588
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,559
I can't do it. Interesting,
it is not in the right place.

589
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,360
Too much energy or emotion that that
blocks. You have to be in a

590
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,599
place that's that's free of all of
that. And so I sit for five

591
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,599
ten minutes, and you know,
spirit, I trust you, come and

592
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:44,119
use me. I'm just the instrument. That's it. And I don't have

593
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,159
to understand it. Just just use
me and play me any way you want

594
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,719
and show me they use all of
my life experiences, and I say,

595
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:58,960
it's kind of like you have this
little five millisecond flash of something, you

596
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,599
know what, and in that is
all this emotion and feelings and thoughts and

597
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,280
memories that not yours. It's like
this cluster bomb, you know that goes

598
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:13,639
off your head. Yeah, but
when your head doesn't have room for it,

599
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:17,079
it doesn't fit, it doesn't work. And that applies very much to

600
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,440
life. And that's sort of a
point to me, at least of the

601
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,400
show too, which I was saying
earlier, is that it's not just about

602
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,639
being able to see and hear spirit
or to be psychic or to be a

603
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:30,159
medium. It is to live our
lives. It is to have things happen

604
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:34,400
that are enriching that leads you on
to the next step, opportunities that will

605
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,599
open up to you. Have nothing
to do with dead people or ghosts or

606
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:42,239
spirit or anything. It's just to
live life and embrace it. And a

607
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,920
dream that you have of something you
want to have happen, and how you

608
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,679
work towards it. And you can
work and work, but sometimes just opening

609
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,119
up listening to signs, following intuition, maybe I should call someone, don't

610
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,039
wait and call them tomorrow if you
feel like doing it, call them now.

611
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,519
That may be exactly the moment they
say, I was just thinking about

612
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:02,119
you. How often does that happen
to all of us? Embrace that,

613
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,239
the relaxation that you're describing, Scott, and make that part of your life.

614
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,159
Even if you're never going to talk
to anyone other than your coworkers.

615
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:15,559
You don't have to talk to Heaven
or God or anyone just in your own

616
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:17,920
life. These are those little psychic
things that happen to each of us.

617
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,079
That's psychic, that's what that is. And you and I we do this

618
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:25,039
all the time. I'll call you
up, or I'll send you a message

619
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,199
thinking of you. Of course you
didn't need to text, right. It's

620
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,440
so funny, do it? I
mean it is. It's funny. But

621
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:37,679
we all can do that is my
point. And and people can live their

622
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,800
lives more fulfilled. And the more
you accept it, the more you let

623
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,400
go, the more it happens,
and the more things fall. And it's

624
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,960
a living example, as many people
may know or not. I literally recently

625
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,800
retired from a job as an executive
director of a nonprofit arts organization to go

626
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:58,159
back into production to go back into
this creative process with theater and plays.

627
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,280
And you know, many people said, we were wondering, Bob, when

628
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,960
you were going to finally come back
to doing what you're doing. And I

629
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,840
love the festival, but there was
time to move on. And it's scary

630
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,079
to move on and to give up, but it's exactly what I had to

631
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:15,239
do because everything was telling me this
was right. And then all the reinforcement,

632
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,320
the validations as we say, happened
afterwards. And you know, I'm

633
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,960
not there yet. We're all working, but they're amazing things that have opened

634
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:28,920
up, like working with Scott Allen
and this Providence of the Heart and other

635
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,920
projects that it's it is magic.
Magic is real and it's uplifting when you

636
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,440
can feel that. You know what
I mean, It's it's crazy. It's

637
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:47,599
true. You're telling there, you
are exactly, It's true. It's true.

638
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:52,320
So how can people get tickets to
Providence of the Heart. Well,

639
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:58,880
your website for one, which is
medium Scott Allen A L L A N

640
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:04,159
dot com. Correct. You can
also just go to Providence of Theheart dot

641
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:08,280
com and either way it will take
you to tickets are available on event bright

642
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,519
and Scott you had that trailer going
by at the bottom. We didn't explain

643
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:16,559
what it was. It was key
on the website on now oh oh just

644
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:22,800
doing that okay, but it's POH
one zero POH providences are ten. We'll

645
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,440
give you ten dollars off any ticket
right now, and the tickets are only

646
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,360
twenty five So that draps it what
I can do mathema at fifteen. Oh,

647
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:36,039
there you go. You got all
their save ten dollars and the tickets

648
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,639
are Now that we're getting into last
week, the ticket sales are definitely picking

649
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,960
up and it's going faster. So
it's a small theater. So if you

650
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,960
would like to come, if you're
listening to this, I would say go

651
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:51,079
to event bright and do that.
And a little secret, a little plug.

652
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:54,519
There is a brand new shop just
opened recently in Middleborough called the Flying

653
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:00,039
Banana. They've got frozen bananas and
banana treats and desserts there, really wonderful

654
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,079
and if you go into their store, they will give you a fifty percent

655
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:08,519
off code that you can use,
So you can use POH and definitely save

656
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:13,639
the ten dollars or save fifty percent
by going into the new Flying Banana and

657
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,039
enjoying matreatent. You can get there
just for that, yeah, if you're

658
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:20,800
local. Otherwise you can use the
you know, if you don't want to

659
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,719
go down there just to go to
the store, you get ten doves has.

660
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,519
But it's important to say the tickets
are only twenty five dollars to begin

661
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:29,360
with. So if you're right ten
dollars, it's fifteen. And if you're

662
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,960
saving fifty is twelve fifty. I
mean, god, you can't even go

663
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:38,360
to Starbucks, but twelve fifty anymore, you get your your Grande bent Well

664
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:43,719
exactly whatever. Yeah, and then
honestly, the ticket price is right now.

665
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,239
It's a small theater. It's going
to support the theater and to make

666
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,320
all that happen and to support that
the wonderful programming that they're doing over there

667
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,360
at the Alley Theater. So I
promise you, Scott and I are not

668
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,440
retiring on any of this at this
moment. This is an investment of love

669
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:05,599
and spirit and guidance, and so
we hope that you guys will come down

670
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,800
and really just share it, share
the evening with us. We'd love to

671
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:14,199
meet you. And if you come
right before intermission, Robert and I are

672
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:19,400
doing this really big dance number.
There's tap, you have jazz hands,

673
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,440
a little potabouret and on a grapevine
and you said you're tap dancing, Scott,

674
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:28,280
you said you were. It's gonna
be a pay per view, Scott,

675
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,280
Gosh, I was auditioning for a
show. This is gonna be like

676
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,880
twenty five or thirty years ago,
and it was a it was a dance

677
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,400
show. And honestly, you know, I'm not a dancer at all.

678
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,079
And but yeah, you know,
you go through the audition and you do

679
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:50,679
all the thing and the music.
The choreographer said to me, man,

680
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:55,199
you are white, and he didn't
meet like he meant my rhythm I had.

681
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,639
I had no rhythm all and you
know, I was like, yeah,

682
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:06,679
I can't help it. I don't
move well yeah, well for me.

683
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,480
Do you know how hard it is
to find two shoes for left feet?

684
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:16,800
Yeah, two four four bear just
to get the left feet. Yeah,

685
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:23,280
it's true bad. Yeah, But
I hope if you're around you'll come

686
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,519
and join us. We're going to
have a great time. Yeah. And

687
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:31,880
it's this is really unique because this
is the first step towards I mean,

688
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,000
this is what this is the first
thing before this goes on to a national

689
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:37,840
This is like a workshop. We
called it a workshop and everyone was like,

690
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,599
wait a second, and we're gonna
have to, you know, get

691
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:43,400
into sweats and exercise or something.
No, no, it's not that kind

692
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,440
of a word shop. In theater. A workshop is trying something out in

693
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,119
front of an audience, trying the
material, finding out if it resonates,

694
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,559
finding where the laughs are because there
are funny things that happen too, and

695
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:55,800
also where the serious moments are.
Is there a rhythm? You guys are

696
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,000
actually going to be part of a
very creative theatrical process, which is fun.

697
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,440
I find it fun. You know, it's challenging, but that's that's

698
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,559
how things grow. It doesn't.
Nothing opens up on Broadway like immediately.

699
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:14,159
They've gone through various, various versions
and various sometimes years of development to get

700
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,000
to be really sharp. So this
is this is kind of fun as fun

701
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,239
for me because you know, if
you don't know Robert, he has opened

702
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:27,440
some big shows in New York and
in the West End of London, and

703
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,880
so this he's not, you know, this this ham and Egger. I

704
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,800
mean, he knows, he knows
what he should be Hammy, I mean,

705
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,559
yeah, well, you know you
know, you know, But but

706
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:38,119
the fact is, he knows what
he's doing, and he's done this before,

707
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:40,880
and so I'm so excited to be
a part of this this event.

708
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,400
I just I just can't wait to
get out there and do this. Plus,

709
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,400
I haven't been on a stage in
a few years, other than other

710
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,639
than my galleries, not since my
son was born. The last show I

711
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,719
did was probably What Is He?
Ten? It was probably twelve years ago,

712
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,239
ten, twelve years ago. And
the nature of it too is it's

713
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,480
while it is theatrical because we're on
a stage and we have some planned projections

714
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,519
that will support it and things,
and there are some basic theater lights.

715
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,719
This is really kind of like the
show we're doing now. It's a conversation

716
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,039
with the audience. It's sharing stories
in a very relaxed way. And while

717
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:22,440
the audience wouldn't necessarily ask, we're
not having a Q and A in the

718
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,679
middle of the show. We're going
to have a reception afterwards where they're going

719
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,559
to have drinks and food. You
know, I think the theater has some

720
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:31,679
for sale. They're very reasonable,
but that will be there to do meet

721
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,079
and greet and answer all sorts of
questions. But it's more relaxed. Anyway,

722
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:39,599
it's a conversation. It's not Ley
miz So if you're expecting that it's

723
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:47,760
not Ley miz Right or Phantom of
the Opera or hopefully it's less miserable than

724
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,800
lay Mize, well listen. It
just had fifteen thousand performances in the West

725
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,800
End of London. It's still running. When I worked in the West End,

726
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,039
they opened while my show that I
was working on it for. The

727
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:04,880
producer called Me and My Girl a
British musical. We won Best Musical that

728
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,639
year against like miss. They were
also cocky sure that we're going, I'm

729
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:15,480
gonna have to jump in. I'm
getting signs over here. Anyway, I'm

730
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:22,400
just saying the show is run forever. So yeah, yeah, but this

731
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,400
is the first step. And so
if you've never been to a workshop,

732
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:30,159
if you've never been to a show
before it goes on to bigger and better

733
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,760
things. This is a great opportunity
to check it out and friendly little theater

734
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,800
with some good people and yeah,
yeah, so we're going to do that.

735
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,920
And I also want to say just
another couple of little announcements. We

736
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,199
only have a couple of minutes left. Actually, actually I think we're at

737
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:55,199
a time. Is that what we're
getting? It's like, yeah, over

738
00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:02,159
here on the side, you're about
to go into the show right. Oh,

739
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,679
you know why because we started late, that's why. Yeah, all

740
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,119
right, let's go, ladies than
here come see as a providence of the

741
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:23,320
heart. Thank you everybody. Next
week, celebrating everybody you've been listening to

742
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:28,920
The Paranormal Project radio show with Scott
Allen and Christina Bowen. Be sure to

743
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,639
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744
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745
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