1 00:00:18,039 --> 00:00:20,920 Welcome back, everyone to a new episode. If you were wrong with Molly 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,280 Hemingway and David HARSONI this is actually part two, I would say of our 3 00:00:25,679 --> 00:00:33,200 ama, or I don't know it's gonna be an AUA ask us anything m 4 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,119 Considering how many questions start, Molly, no, you can get a ton 5 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,399 to stop it. Here's a funny one I wanted to start with. Someone 6 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:46,640 wrote Katie. Molly is brilliant as always. I love the way she goes 7 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:51,159 after Republicans and all of their bs. I appreciate David's questions and find his 8 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,039 perpective interesting. However, I'm tired of hearing that he doesn't care about anything. 9 00:00:56,759 --> 00:01:00,280 It makes it hard to listen to him and his thoughts, to take 10 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,359 his thoughts and opinions very seriously. I personally do care about things, and 11 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,840 I wish you did. I love I come off like that I do not 12 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:14,159 care about things. Yeah, sometimes you have that gen x like I'm too 13 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,599 cool, too cool for school. But I know you actually do care. 14 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,879 And I think that's why it doesn't bother me to hear you say it, 15 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:25,200 because you're you're trying to make a point. Usually like I don't even care 16 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:27,000 about this issue, but I'm upset that it's going this way. Or you 17 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,000 know, you have some kind of general approach, but you care deeply about 18 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,439 the country and your community and your family. And oh, of course I 19 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,000 care about those things. But I have to say that I am upset how 20 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,519 my life has gone in a way. I cared too much about politics. 21 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,159 Yes, you know what I mean, And I don't mean the ideas or 22 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:55,000 the policies as much as I about the ugliness and the you know, just 23 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,239 this everyday grind that we have to go through. And I'm not complaining about 24 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:00,680 my life or job, but it is you want to say, that's one 25 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,879 of you know, whether you're talking about Hannah or Rent or you know, 26 00:02:04,879 --> 00:02:08,560 other people talk about totalitarianism. The whole thing is when everything's getting political, 27 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:14,159 it means you're in an authoritarian system. Exactly everyone, Yeah, exactly. 28 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:16,599 The totalitarians want to make everything about politics, and that's what they've done. 29 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:22,759 Sports the shot where I shop, my movies, my everything, and it 30 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,680 is a grind. So that brings me to a question a lot of people 31 00:02:24,759 --> 00:02:30,919 asked, and I'm just going to again just summarize it and say, do 32 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:37,919 you think that this long for instance, primary process, this president election election 33 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,560 that is basically like a two year thing. Do you think that there's just 34 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:46,240 fatigue involved and people care less and less or angrier because they're just there's just 35 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:49,919 too much of it in their lives. What I worry about is that it's 36 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,479 a distraction mechanism to keep people from making things better. So, for instance, 37 00:02:54,599 --> 00:03:00,039 you have the twenty twenty election fraught as it was, leads to uniparty 38 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,080 control at the federal level. You know, Democrats control the White House, 39 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,800 the Senate at the House, and they don't control all these state legislatures. 40 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,759 And yet a lot of state legislatures didn't really do anything in the two years. 41 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,120 Like when you don't control I mean, regardless of what you control in 42 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:23,159 Washington, DC, you should do everything you can to make things better at 43 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:28,400 a more local or state level. And you saw some really good work, 44 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,960 and I think like Florida's legislature is a good example of doing a lot of 45 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,280 a lot of good work. And I don't even you know, I'm sure 46 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:38,000 there was also a lot of not great work, but Texas As legislature should 47 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:42,919 be really good. Like on paper they claim to be a bunch of Republicans. 48 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,240 I kind of get the feeling that they're so overwhelmingly Republican that you list 49 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,759 yourself as a Republican whether you are one or not, you know, just 50 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,599 so you can be in the game. But even so, you had these 51 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:58,280 like really squishy leaders going out of their way to like give Democrats what they 52 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,639 wanted, and you're just like, what's the point of view? Texas? 53 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:03,520 Like you brag about being so great, but you didn't really do anything to 54 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:08,319 like really seriously advance the ball. And then once you do a good job, 55 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:12,759 it helps other legislatures that aren't as strong or solid as you are. 56 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,199 So I get annoyed by the lengthy political primary, mostly because there's so much 57 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,240 else that could be done, and all that people in DC like to talk 58 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:26,800 about is literally presidential politics. Like they even don't talk about the House and 59 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Senate as much as they should. That's a good point for me. The 60 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:38,279 frustration, I think is in that people's expectations of politics and politicians are way 61 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:43,199 too high the things that they can do or a party can do. It's 62 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:47,079 their expectations are too much and they don't view incremental victories or stopping the other 63 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:50,720 party from doing something as a victory. Anymore, and they just become increasingly 64 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:55,680 frustrated to the point where they hate their own party more than they hate the 65 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,319 other party. And that I'm not saying that there's nothing, you know, 66 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,959 there's no good reason for it. I'm just saying that it becomes destructive and 67 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,720 not really productive in any way. So um, and you know, so 68 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,480 politics is not just hating the other party or hating this person, or it's 69 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:17,279 hating everyone. And I just think it's become so negative. Everything is so 70 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,040 angry. And I'm not one of these people who thinks there should be Kumbayan 71 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,600 politics. We have politics because we disagree. We're supposed that's where we're supposed 72 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:29,720 to disagree. But it's just maybe from because of where what we do. 73 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:33,480 But it's so pervasive and it's so imbued in all things that it's become so 74 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,360 just disconcerting in life every day. This is such a downer, right, 75 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:45,959 We're supposed to be like a disposed much happier. So I wanted to talk 76 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:49,279 to you to really just change topics in a very traumatic way. So I'm 77 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,360 not sure if people know this about you, Molly, or I'm sure some 78 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:57,000 people know this, but perhaps not everyone that you like the woman in the 79 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,879 Matchmaker and the Fiddler on the Roof, are quite adapt to bring people together 80 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,600 in not just relationships but result relationships that result in marriage. Is that a 81 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,160 fairer assessment? Yes? And I would say, like the matchmaker in Fither 82 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,480 on the Roof, I'm really only interested in marriage matchmaking. I'm not interested 83 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,720 in dating matchmaking, and I do like doing it. I have with a 84 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:27,680 very good friend and now we have another associate. We've had a lot of 85 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,399 success, and it is to me the most wonderful thing I get to do 86 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:39,759 is to help people come together ideally in you know, in marriage, and 87 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,199 then some of them have had kids, some of them have had a ton 88 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,839 of kids, and it's just pure joy that I get to be part of. 89 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:53,360 That. Is this skill? Like does it? Is it an inherent 90 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:56,839 skill that you have? Do you do it just by feel? Or is 91 00:06:56,879 --> 00:07:00,439 there some sort of scientific or method to to how you bring people together? 92 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,319 Okay, so first off, what I want to say is that mostly this 93 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:11,160 is a testament to my husband, and what I mean by that is I 94 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:15,000 love being married to him so much that I want other people to have really 95 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,279 good marriages as well. And it all started with a friend of mine who 96 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:25,959 was like so beautiful, so nice, so like exactly what I would want 97 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,160 if I were a man for a wife and she was not married married, 98 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:32,319 and I was like, I'm gonna help that lady get a husband. And 99 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:36,920 I did, and they're pregnant with their fourth kid now and it's awesome anyway. 100 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,839 So it was more like desire more than anything. But then I also, 101 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,120 I think because it took me a while to get married, to find 102 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,519 the right person to marry, I'm very sensitive to how some people have no 103 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,000 problems. Some people they just like they meet their spouse early, they're like, 104 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,439 that's the hot lady I want to marry, They marry her, and 105 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:03,279 then they're like happily there there after, and then other people it's just it's 106 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:07,600 just a little more difficult, particularly if you're like a really interesting, weird 107 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:15,600 cat or you have like very particular religious views that mean that your field of 108 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:18,480 play is smaller. And so that's what I would say. First off, 109 00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:22,160 I focus on Lutheran's and I do want to say one time I talked about 110 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:24,759 it on the podcast, like many moons ago, it wasn't with you, 111 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:31,319 It was with a couple of ladies and this guy wrote in and said that 112 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:39,200 his brother needed to be in my matchmaking pool, and that man married one 113 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,960 of the women in my matchmaking pool, and they have a baby who's the 114 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,360 cutest baby I've ever seen, by the way, And so there's even like 115 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,399 a federalist connection with it. But mostly it's like I work with people who 116 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,440 would like to be married, so they're already more matured than some of these 117 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,000 people who are like I just want to date forever whatever, And so then 118 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:00,919 we ask them a series of questions to get a feel for them. If 119 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,000 we can meet them, we do, and then we just kind of start 120 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,159 looking through who we have and matching people up. And I love it, 121 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,840 and I do. I do want to say one thing, which is I 122 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:15,039 think it's funny that you know, people know me from my journalism work and 123 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,320 at the level of work I'm doing. Like if I were a liberal and 124 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,799 I also was doing this like really successful matchmaking thing, I imagine I would 125 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:28,360 be getting like very nice profiles in the Washington Post or whatever. And that 126 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,080 was that's a catty little thing for me to complain about. And I hate 127 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,799 him when people complain about stuff like that, but it's fair. I think 128 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:41,759 it's fair. It's okay, you're among friends here, someone must have been 129 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:48,399 friend. Yeah, everyone's listening is a friend John who's from Io as a 130 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,360 very specific question that he wants it will help with. So I'm going to 131 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,360 just test out how what kind of advice you give here. Let's say two 132 00:09:56,399 --> 00:10:00,519 people have already made a match, but they are very early in a early 133 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,200 in talking, dating, etc. Also, let's say that they are both 134 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,799 entering middle age and you know, with kids. Any tips for successful building 135 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:13,360 on the relationship in a healthy way the end goal is marriage. Oh man, 136 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,440 I don't know. I'd actually probably have to know the person a little 137 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,519 bit better before I were to give advice. If both people are already marriage 138 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:26,600 minded, that that makes it much easier that you can just sort of speak 139 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,240 openly about the seriousness of what you're doing. It's but I generally think that 140 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:37,559 if you have the same values and same religious views, you can then just 141 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:43,759 focus on making sure it's like a good mood match, you know, like 142 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:46,759 relationship match. Like not everybody with the same values is going to want to 143 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:50,799 spend the rest of their lives together, And then you don't need to necessarily 144 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:54,480 pressure it so much. Just kind of be in relationship and see how it 145 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,200 goes. That's not very helpful advice, but just you know, a little 146 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,519 bit of time together is good. Have you ever been like, do you 147 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,039 ever put people together and then you saw them together and you're like, no, 148 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,200 man, this is not going to work. These people are not compatible. 149 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,840 Yeah, certainly. I mean you learn from me each one too. 150 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,159 So like when someone's in the pool and you think, okay, this might 151 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:18,120 be a match, and it's Sometimes it's based on things they claimed they wanted, 152 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,759 and then you find someone who has those things and they're like, no, 153 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:24,919 this isn't it. And you realize they are also realizing about themselves that 154 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,960 things are a little different than they thought. But one thing I like is 155 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,519 that it helps me actually when men are very specific, so and I love 156 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,480 that they can be you know, they'll just be like, okay, so 157 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,799 I think all women are pretty, but the ones that I really think are 158 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,399 pretty you have brown hair or you know, like I like this physical attribute. 159 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,679 I care. I've noticed I zone in on this one and I don't 160 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,000 care so much about these other ones. And it is actually helpful to just 161 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,480 let them be honest. And men are so visually attracted that that's great. 162 00:11:56,519 --> 00:12:00,559 Women are almost never that way, or if they are franky, I'm always 163 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,399 like a little like weird that when they're like way too into looks um. 164 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,639 But they also are very specific, you know. They also can be very 165 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:11,159 specific. They tend to know what they want in terms of like the type 166 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:15,799 of the type of man they want, you know, what do they care 167 00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:20,799 about? So guys like I want a hot blonde who's smart and has money 168 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:26,679 right or whenever? And uh, but do women say like I want a 169 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:31,840 man who is interested, you know, who is intellectually curious, or like 170 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,679 what are the top things that they're looking for? So that's where you don't 171 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,879 get. One thing I love about the men is just because one guy likes 172 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:41,799 a hot blonde, the next one wants to hot brunette, and the you 173 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:46,440 know other person is like very much like the like a dark skinned lady, 174 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:52,399 you know, and the women are not. And then and then also sorry 175 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:58,639 I should say, some men very much want a challenge and you kind of 176 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,120 get that feeling like they really want to have a wife who challenges them. 177 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:05,120 And then a lot of men, of course don't want that. And I 178 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:09,120 think when you are honest about it like. I was talking this one guy 179 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:11,000 recently and by the way, I think, I think I have the perfect 180 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,120 match for him. I'm so excited. But anyway, he was talking about 181 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:20,039 how he like doesn't really want to have a fight with his wife all the 182 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,480 time, Like you know, he's dated girls before where they think it's like 183 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,200 really fun to be basically fighting all the time. And he's like, I 184 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:30,519 just don't want that, and I'm like, of course you don't. But 185 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:37,679 you know, um, women likewise, some really want to feel safe, 186 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:41,320 or some really want them the husband be able to provide for them financially, 187 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,480 or others really care about the intellect. And it's all different, and that's 188 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,200 fine, it's great. Oh. Also one thing I love. Sorry to 189 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,799 go off on this, but sometimes you meet these people and you're like this 190 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,440 person, like they're so into things that I don't get at all, like 191 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,159 dungeon dungeons and dragons and as play and like, um, you know, 192 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,679 like I've read Tolkien thirty eight times and I'm about to do it again, 193 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:09,279 you know, And you're like that's great. Um. And then you look 194 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,639 through your ladies and you're like, and I got the perfect lady that's going 195 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,919 to also just think this is the most amazing thing. It reminds me of 196 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,360 that movie is it Ten Things I Hate About You Shakespeare or something like that. 197 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:26,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah okay. 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Wait, meaning which one, I think that people 237 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:27,279 who are similar have similar interests obviously, but also are temperamentally similar work out 238 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:32,000 better than people who are who are always knocking heads and have different personalities. 239 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:34,480 I know that it's a cliche where you see the movies where like the wife's 240 00:17:34,519 --> 00:17:37,440 just you know, a yapper and the guy doesn't talk. But most of 241 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,400 the time when you meet couples or do couples become more like each other as 242 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,240 they go along. I don't know. I'm just curious about how like I 243 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:52,759 don't know, I'm curious about the matchmaking. Okay. I generally think personally, 244 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:56,799 what I'd like to do is find people that compliment the other person. 245 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,000 So you have the person who's really quiet but would like to be more social, 246 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:03,480 and you put them with the person who has no trouble with that, 247 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:08,400 you know. But one of the most surprising things I have learned through matchmaking 248 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:15,880 is sometimes two people with extremely strong personalities that are that are like kind of 249 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,519 the same. It's just great. Like there you kind of go, these 250 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:22,079 are the same people and you would never put them together, but it works 251 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:26,000 great. And I have a really, really good friend who's been married to 252 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,680 her husband for like, you know, twenty years or something, and she 253 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:36,759 and he both have very strong personalities and they have a beautiful, like very 254 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:41,079 supportive relationship in their marriage. So I find that a all of that fascinating. 255 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,119 I hope the listeners do too, Yeah, but I do. But 256 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,279 I should say I'm happy to work with other people. But basically it's just 257 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,440 Lutherans, and every time it goes beyond that, it gets a little complicated. 258 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:56,799 So if you're Lutheran and you're listening and you need help, it's and 259 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,759 not all the Lutherans, right, only the good Lutherans. Different kind of 260 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:06,640 Lutherans. Um, like the federalist there's the atheist Lutherans, and then like 261 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,000 are the federalist reader who's responsible for his he and I are responsible for his 262 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:18,519 brother's marriage and their child. Um. There they were like the liberal Lutheran, 263 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:22,559 but they were all kind of like recognizing there was a problem there. 264 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:30,000 So I'm going to change gears again and ask you another question. You know, 265 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,799 you're a well known news personality, you're out there, you have strong 266 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,920 opinions. You actually, let me just read the questions. Is from a 267 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,079 coworker. Actually, I don't know if I should give their name or not, 268 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:41,519 so I'm just going to read it. What steps does Molly take to 269 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:45,599 protect herself given the high level of spiritual warfare she's engaged, and like, 270 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:51,039 how does she work to protect herself emotionally and spiritually given that she's an obvious 271 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:56,759 target dude to her effectiveness and high level of operation. Do you get what 272 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,920 she's saying? Okay, it's a very I do. It's a very loving 273 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,200 question, and I'd love that it's being asked. And I have so many 274 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,319 different thoughts that are personally interesting, but I don't know if they're interesting to 275 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,920 others. One thing I will say is you would be surprised at how often 276 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,240 I go out speaking and people will just come up to me and they will 277 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:21,680 say, I pray for you. And I'm so touched by that because it 278 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:29,519 really is hard to be out there in a hostile environment. And I love 279 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:33,160 that people are praying for me. And I also loved it if I ask 280 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:37,880 people to pray, they do. Like my dad basically nearly died last August 281 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:41,960 and I asked people to pray, and I mean I got I'm not joking, 282 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:48,039 like tens of thousands of responses or people just building him into their daily 283 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:51,240 prayers. And I am so thankful because he you know, he was in 284 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:53,839 the ICU for like nine days and then he was in rehab for a month 285 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,559 and he is doing really well, and I just feel like it's such wonderful 286 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:03,079 bonus time when I just got to see him. He officiated at my cousin's 287 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,359 wedding and it was really beautiful, and I just really appreciate that people pray. 288 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,559 But anyway, I would say the fact that my church is the center 289 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:17,640 of my life, not politics, helps. And my husband and I build 290 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:25,440 our weekly schedule around church, and we we just spent a lot of time, 291 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,960 you know, church worship, Bible study, devotions, and also just 292 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:38,400 when something happens. We kind of have this different focus than politics. So 293 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:45,039 you're saying in a sense that the overwhelming concern and love that people who like 294 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,000 you at their show kind of buries all the negativity or makes it worth it 295 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:53,200 for you. Now, I believe the prayer is actually like, there's the 296 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,519 power in the prayer is God's work and protection. I know that you are 297 00:21:57,559 --> 00:22:00,599 not religious, David talk about this all the time, but I'm praying is 298 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,640 not some kind of populist endeavor where more people would do it. It's going 299 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,759 to be better for you. A lot of people aren't famous, and I'm 300 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:08,759 sure just a few prayers are just would be just as effective in your mind. 301 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:14,000 Correct, Yeah, and well no, it's again the power of the 302 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:17,880 prayers and God not in us. But I'd loved like this reader sent a 303 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,039 note saying that Tristan, our colleague had told, had said something on Twitter 304 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:23,759 like if you ever need someone to pray for you, to let us at 305 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:29,880 the Federalists know. And he did have a very bad situation with his brother 306 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,240 having sepsis, but he asked for prayers and we were all able to kind 307 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:38,200 of join in on that, and and his brother told us that his brother 308 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,240 died, and you know, but also it was like this whole journey we 309 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,920 were going through. So my co author on the first book I wrote was 310 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,799 Carrie Savarino is Carrie Saverino, and she and I did all this work together, 311 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,200 and every day when we would start our work, we would start in 312 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:03,759 prayer. And I loved she's just like very high powered, Harvard educated Supreme 313 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:11,640 Court clerk, totally amazing woman. And I love that she'd never failed to 314 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:15,039 begin in prayer and that we could talk about what was going on. And 315 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:18,160 she definitely felt like because what we were doing was so important, we were 316 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,319 trying to do it in such difficult circumstance or circumstances we had to be on 317 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,160 guard against all the things that we're attacking. Oh. Also, my husband 318 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,200 is a very good shoulder to cry on. Like I remember the first time 319 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,720 I wrote about Kermit Gosnell, and I had never received that kind of hatred 320 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:38,799 as I got for exposing, you know, some of what was going on 321 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:42,559 with the media failing to cover the trial of that abortionist. And I just 322 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:49,400 there's like this lady who I mean, I don't even Kermit Gosnell's not Jewish 323 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,960 or anything. And I have no idea where she got this, but she's 324 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,279 kind of like a famous writer, and she was accusing me of anti Semitism 325 00:23:56,319 --> 00:24:00,839 and it just was like shocking and appalling, and I was crying and I 326 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:07,000 just remember Mark just held me. It's very nice marketingway. Yeah. Have 327 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,400 you so over the years, you think you've gotten you know, your your 328 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,960 skin. You know you've been You've been toughened up and are more able to 329 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,440 deal with harsh criticism and you know, from from from people. Yeah. 330 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:27,720 I actually feel like my I joke that my spiritual gift is not caring about 331 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480 what people say about me, But there's a truth to it. Like I 332 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,880 don't know why, I don't know how. It's not something I worked on 333 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,319 or anything like that. I just sort of don't care at about being unliked. 334 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:44,400 Oh you know who Amanda Milius is. It was a trumpet. Her 335 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,440 dad is a genius. I'm a huge fan. Yes, Okay, so 336 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,119 she said her dad told her something like there's no limit to what you can 337 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,160 accomplish if you can be in a room and know that you were hated by 338 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,359 everyone and like just keep going. And I was like, that's me, 339 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,079 Like I don't know why, I just like I can even do it on 340 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,759 TV. You know, you're saying something, You're like, I don't think 341 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:07,960 Donald Trump is colluding with Russia, and everybody's screaming at you and you just 342 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:12,480 don't care. It's really a great power. And also because a lot of 343 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,440 the people that are yelling at me, I genuinely like apart from whatever they're 344 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,079 saying, So that makes it a little easier too, sometimes harder. You 345 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:25,680 have this amazing power where when I am yelling at you, you get calmer 346 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,599 and your voice becomes almost would you say, like a teacher who would be 347 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,559 speaking to a kindergartener or something like that, Like that's the tone that you 348 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,599 take on, and it just is enraging. So you get angrier and angrier, 349 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,279 and you're like listen, David, that's not how we speak. But 350 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,720 I just wasay, obviously I don't have the same amount of hatred directed at 351 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:49,119 me, but I too, I believe, and I don't. Actually sometimes 352 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,039 I worry about it, don't care that people don't like me or or hate 353 00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:56,680 me when I am saying something that I really believe, when I'm writing something 354 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,440 that I am truly believe in, you know, not to say I don't 355 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,039 write things I don't believe in, but sometimes it's not that important to me. 356 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:04,920 When it's important and I care about it and I'm saying it, I 357 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,279 don't care. And I think I learned that where I've always had that skill, 358 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,759 but especially I learned it when I was at the Denver Post being the 359 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:15,400 only conservative in the whole building, probably hated by everyone. I just stopped 360 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,359 caring. And I think it's a good tool to have when you're a journalist 361 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,160 or any kind of pundit. When you don't, you are very susceptible. 362 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,640 And I've seen it happen. You go native no matter where you are, 363 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,839 You're just going to say what everyone else is telling you to say, you 364 00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:33,440 know, or whatever. And that's it's always good to be thinking. About 365 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,559 that stuff and being a contrarian. Frankly, I think it makes everyone better 366 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:41,440 at their job. So but I'm very impressed because sometimes I see the swamp 367 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,960 that is, like your replies and your like Twitter feed or what the things 368 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,519 people say to women in this country. And I'm not usually one who brings 369 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,359 this up in this way, but it is appalling. You know, I 370 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,599 have, you know, family members, and I if I saw anyone speak 371 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,599 to them that way, it would enrage me more than anyone yelling at me 372 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,720 personally, you know, Okay, I actually disagree with you on this point. 373 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,039 In particular, I I almost get nothing but nice notes from people. 374 00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:12,200 And I had been told that when you're on TV, you get like a 375 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,079 lot of negative comments, you know, particularly about your appearance and everything. 376 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,960 And I almost never get that, I mean, particularly not in actual real 377 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,640 people. Like what I think of is if you're getting emails from people, 378 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,119 people who exist enough to the level that they are writing an email, it's 379 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:37,119 like ninety nine point nine polite, too beautiful. And so what I mean 380 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,000 by polite is like even when people are disagreeing with you there, which you 381 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:45,359 know, I actually like it when people send in notes that they disagree or 382 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,640 something. Almost everyone who does that is very nice. And statistically men actually 383 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:56,279 get much worse treatment online than women do, and there's this myth that women 384 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,079 are subject to particularly bad treatment. Now, the one caveat I will say 385 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:04,599 is that I don't see people respond to me on Twitter unless they follow me, 386 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,160 and even then I don't always have time to see it. So I 387 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,319 guess it's possible there's like really bad stuff in there, but I haven't. 388 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,720 I just don't see it. That's interesting. Maybe it is a little bit 389 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,240 of sexism on my part to think that women can handle that kind of thing 390 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,720 and men can so, meaning I am not that offended when I see someone 391 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:26,640 saying something about a man's appearance, then I would be when as because I 392 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480 think somehow women are you know, are more sensitive to it. And I'm 393 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,640 not saying that I see that for you, but I think that because you 394 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,119 don't see people who don't follow you, maybe you're missing out at some of 395 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,960 them. Really you see stuff going on out there. Oh and I block 396 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:45,079 with wild abandon on Twitter. I mean I love blocking people, and occasionally 397 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:45,960 someone will be like, yeah, you blocked me, and I never said 398 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,359 anything against you, and I've just gotten confused or whatever. But I know 399 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,319 on that note, I want to say. One of the things that annoys 400 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,000 me is when people will say Sometimes you'll see people say that person blocked me, 401 00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:00,720 and yet I never interacted with them. I block people for being mean 402 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,720 to other people. So if I'm like in your replies and someone's being really 403 00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:06,599 rude, I will just block. I'll be like, I don't need any 404 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,400 of that. That's just that's interesting because I often get people say like, 405 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,720 she blocks me. I never I don't know what I did. You know, 406 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:15,960 teller, don't block me. They probably said something mean to someone else 407 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,079 and I just was like, I'm done. Yeah anyway, all right, 408 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:29,359 Well that's interesting as well. The Watchdolt on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 409 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,160 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how 410 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,680 it affects your wall is America not number one anymore? Sometimes it takes admitting 411 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,920 we have a problem he'll be able to fix it. Between parental rights over 412 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,680 their children or the government paying big tech for your private info, how can 413 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,000 we right our wrongs to go back to being the shiny city on the hill, 414 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:49,799 Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street. It's affecting you 415 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:53,079 financially. Be informed. Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 416 00:29:53,160 --> 00:30:00,079 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Do you 417 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:06,279 block people on Twitter? I honestly I have no real policy. Sometimes I 418 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,599 do if I'm mad. Sometimes I want people to shout into the abyss and 419 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,559 I just a mute them. I do block certain people, So I want 420 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:15,880 to say this. I do not care what people think of me, but 421 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:22,240 I do get upset when people misrepresent my position. That offends me. So 422 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,200 that happens quite a bit. And people who do that, I will block 423 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,680 them, you know, any kind of and I don't mean some like person 424 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:33,640 out there in Kentucky who doesn't like me. I mean other writers or whatever. 425 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,720 I'll block people who come at me in bad faith. I try. 426 00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,480 I know that people might not believe this, but I really try my best 427 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:44,680 to at least frame arguments of the people I am going after fairly. I 428 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,160 think that's something we should all be doing. So. I don't know that 429 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,400 sounds like I'm being sanctimonious or pious or something, but it is true. 430 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,200 I just think you get better arguments that way. But a lot of these 431 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,599 people don't do that, like someone like I'm just going to throw out a 432 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,160 name, Jonathan Chait. You know, he will always like throw in this 433 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,359 column I wrote for the Washington Post years ago to pretend that I'm like, 434 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,680 don't want minorities to vote, you know, because I said, let's weed 435 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,160 out bad voters. But it's about people who don't know anything about American civics. 436 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,279 He's the racist, for instance, who thinks that black people can't learn 437 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,480 as much as why people can about civics. Not me, but anyway, 438 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,440 he misrepresents it and frames it in a way that is unfair. So that 439 00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:26,640 kind of thing annoys me. So I ask people on Twitter to ask us 440 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:33,400 questions, and one of them from Alex the Chick Alexandria Brown, is what 441 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:40,680 is your worst food take? My worst food take? I am not, 442 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,759 you know, very I like a lot of different kinds of food, but 443 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,119 I wouldn't say I'm like a sophisticated person like people yell at me when I 444 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:49,920 say this, so I'll say it. I think Chick fil at is like 445 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:56,519 incredibly overrated. It just takes tastes like rubbery chicken. To me, it 446 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,519 is a horrible food. Take. Okay, so I nailed it, nailed 447 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:05,319 that. I'm like, just that doesn't even make that's not even wrong. 448 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,279 It's just not right. It's like so wrong. I used to go there 449 00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:12,119 because I wasn't supposed to, you know, But now I'm like, I 450 00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:15,319 don't even I think that they're not I don't even think Chick fil A's a 451 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:16,759 good company anymore or whatever. So I don't. I Don'm not even gonna 452 00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:22,039 go there anymore. So what's your favorite fast food? It's interesting, this 453 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,640 is probably gonna be a bad tike. I go to like you ever been 454 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,640 to Cava? Yeah? Okay, I love Cava and that guy's that fast 455 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,039 food? Do you think? Okay? So I like Cava. I like 456 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,079 Chipotle is as good or used to be when I was in Denver. I 457 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,039 liked it a lot. But if I had to go to like an old 458 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:43,759 fashioned burger place and just like a fast food place, getting a whopper at 459 00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:46,119 Burger King, that's a pretty good burger, I would say, interesting, 460 00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,720 how about you? Okay? So, first of all, I want to 461 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,960 say, Cava is like a local DC area company, and I think they're 462 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,440 great, and I don't know how broad they are, but I know they're 463 00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:04,079 you know, at the very least local. Um. I used to go 464 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,680 to the original Chipotle, which was across the street from my aunt and uncle's 465 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:14,799 market near the DU campus, and the original was like amazing, you know, 466 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:21,200 every day was brand new, very fresh, very interesting salsas and really 467 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,200 good meats. And then as I understand, like, it's great that they 468 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,839 are international now, but it's just it's lost that really great Claire, Yeah, 469 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:32,759 I've been to that one, I think, yeah, but were you 470 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:37,640 there when it was no it already had been bought by mcconald's by the time 471 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,279 that you. Yeah. I just I think it's gone downhill lately, I 472 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,240 know, Becau. It's just it's just me going into like I just don't 473 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:46,599 feel like it's as fresh as it was or as good as it used to 474 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,480 be when I went to Denver. I don't. I don't know if that's 475 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,240 true all around. Sorry. And then fast food is something I've never really 476 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,119 gotten into, and I think it's partly because growing up we just you know, 477 00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,720 we lived in rural places or we were too poor for fast food. 478 00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:02,200 I was actually just telling Emma, my assistant, about the time that my 479 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,280 mom took us kids to McDonald's and we were so not used to going out 480 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,800 that she thought she had enough money to feed us all for dinner because she 481 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,000 had five dollars and we like to make fun of her for that all the 482 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,480 time. She hadn't really been since the sixties, I guess, and she's 483 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,960 like, this would have been more than enough then, and it was like, 484 00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:30,159 let's discuss inflation, Carolyn. Anyway, So I just was never super 485 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:38,079 into fast food. And then I watched this propaganda documentary called fast Food Nation, 486 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:43,440 and it was about a guy who ate McDonald's or something every day for 487 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,440 a month and what happened to him and how they needed to be like banning 488 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:52,800 McDonald's or whatever. And whenever I watched propaganda, it produces like the opposite 489 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,599 effect in me. And I just literally got up out of the theater and 490 00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:00,239 went and got some Wendy's fries and they were good. So that's kind of 491 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,320 how I like to do. It's like just like as a very sort of 492 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,400 like random special treat. So I think you might be confusing Supersize Me with 493 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Fast Food Nation. I'm not sure both are. Yeah, fast Food Nation 494 00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:15,679 was the book by was that whoever? Eric Eric? It was a different 495 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:21,400 guy. But it's also propaganda. But they yeah, I was supersize me. 496 00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:23,159 Supersize me. I wrote about in my first book, Nanny State. 497 00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:29,679 It is it's just junk science, just a garbage documentary, just nonsense. 498 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,320 Fast Food Nation was an interesting book about fast food. Also kind of propaganda, 499 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,280 but far better reported and interesting. And I'm not trying to correct you. 500 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,199 I just want to oh no, And I want to just say one 501 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,480 last thing, which is last year, I took the kids, the husband 502 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,039 and kids back to where I grew up in California, and one of the 503 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,800 first things we did is went to an in and out because they always hear 504 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,679 me talking about in and out and they loved it. Did you guys? 505 00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:59,960 It's great. When I grew up in New York and Queens, we had 506 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,559 a white castle. Did you guys have that on the West Coast? I 507 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:07,039 don't think so. Say like cheap little burgers at Onion in there they were. 508 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,760 They were really good. Actually I like that. I've been there in 509 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:16,440 a while. Okay, I have another question for you, David. This 510 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,960 one's from Laura Ashford on Twitter. Is there anything you did as a child 511 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:30,039 that you now wish you would have done differently. Yeah, of course I 512 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:37,280 wish I had been more serious, a more serious student, and taking advantage 513 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,199 of a lot of the opportunities that were given to me, which I didn't. 514 00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:44,960 Now sometimes I think to myself, maybe I would be a different person 515 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,599 now, and it was meant to be this way. But I feel like, 516 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,199 you know, in my twenties and mid twenties, when I started to 517 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,639 get really serious about ideas or you know, about other politics and stuff, 518 00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:58,280 I became kind of I was kind of an autodidac, Like I had to 519 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,800 go back and read a lot of stuff on my own, and I wish 520 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,639 that I started earlier. Oh oh, child, My biggest real regret is 521 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,960 that I probably should have gotten married earlier and had more kids. Think that 522 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,960 that's my big regret in life. But I guess I do consider myself a 523 00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:17,280 child in my early twenties. So I think that I answers the question how 524 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,239 about you? I don't know, I actually get asked a lot, you 525 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,559 know, speak to young women or something, and they'll ask like, what's 526 00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:30,159 the worst thing that ever happened or that you did or whatever, And I 527 00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,599 just kind of realized, I know, there's a ton of bad stuff I 528 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,039 did, or that happened to me or whatever, and I just choose not 529 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,920 to dwell on it. So like everything you said just now, it very 530 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,280 much resonated with me. Like I wish, oh, I wish I'd received 531 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,519 a better education. We really cared about giving our kids a good education, 532 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:52,519 and I wish that I had received more of a classical education. I think 533 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:57,320 that would have really taken root in me sometimes. I remember was in one 534 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,480 of my kids, was like in first grade, and Mark and I were 535 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,360 learning or we're like reviewing how the teacher was teaching writing, and I was 536 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,760 like, could we audit this first grade class? Because I think we could 537 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,280 get a lot out of this. So that's just sort of something that I 538 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,960 have other things. Yeah, if I may, you don't have to go 539 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,519 down this road with me, just letting you know ahead of time. But 540 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,599 um, I wish I hadn't picked up smoking as a kid. I think 541 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:23,920 that that, you know, I worry now that that's going to hurt me. 542 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,840 You know I smoke for years. Um you did. Yeah, probably 543 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:37,159 started smoking at seventeen and smoked till into my I don't remember exactly know twenty 544 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,320 six. Maybe something that isn't that that's like nothing, you think, so 545 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,079 even like a pack of day I'm not worry. No, actually quitting smoking 546 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,559 at that age and is like one of the best things you could have done. 547 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:52,360 Smoking is genuinely bad for you, but your lungs doo heal. So 548 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,400 and I wish, you know, I think that that there was kind of 549 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,800 a people are lured into doing things like drinking too much, for doing drugs, 550 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,199 and I think that those are things that I wish I hadn't done either, 551 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,679 you know, I just feel like they slowed down my progress in life. 552 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,119 And now then you get to the other ish side of things. I'm 553 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,159 not saying I'm an old man, but I'm not a young man. You're 554 00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,639 like, you know, I wish I had started earlier and all these things 555 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:19,400 that I'm doing because they're far more exciting than wasting my time doing whatever I 556 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,679 was doing. But you know, then I think like every young person has 557 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,239 to do that to appreciate what they have now, right, So I don't 558 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,639 know. I will say that Mark and I definitely also say we wish we 559 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:34,960 could have gotten everything figured out earlier and had kids, had more many more 560 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,360 kids, because we were kind of so old when we got married, we 561 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,519 had two right away. You know. We unfortunately had a series of miscarriages 562 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:50,320 after that, and we really like kids a lot, and I do think 563 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,559 it's reasonable to think that if we'd gotten married earlier, we would have had 564 00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:58,840 more of the like twelve that we wish we had. And I have to 565 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,679 say this just to make sure that kissed my wife. Listen, it's completely 566 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,559 my fault that we didn't get married earlier. I did not think that I 567 00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,800 could afford to be married. I did not think that I made enough money, 568 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,840 that I was mature enough and all that stuff, which when I got 569 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,360 married, I still wasn't making enough money and I still wasn't mature, And 570 00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:15,800 so you might as well do it early, you know. And I think, 571 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:20,760 actually, you have kids, it actually matures you. You know what 572 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,719 I'm saying, So that's why you do it, Okay. So that was 573 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,079 a big thing from Mark too. You know, he's a little younger than 574 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:28,400 I am and all this, and he, like, we really thought we 575 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,519 had to kind of have our act together before we got married, and we 576 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:35,400 didn't realize that it was the act of getting married, and in our case, 577 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,639 we got pregnant right away, that all of a sudden. We were 578 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,400 like, oh, we just you know, like his career just skyrocketed after 579 00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:46,679 marriage and mine too. So yeah, if you want to be successful in 580 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,800 life, you get married. The earlier the better. Then you have kids 581 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,559 after you get married, and then you pay your taxes and you mind your 582 00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:59,639 own business and life will be good for you. So let me ask you. 583 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:06,039 I see someone asked, is there anything or what would it take for 584 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,679 you to be a baseball fan again to resume watching your favorite sport? Is 585 00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:13,000 there anything that can happen that will make that happen? Okay, yeah, 586 00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:20,280 So for context, I stopped watching baseball because Major League Baseball followed Joe Biden's 587 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,239 demand that they boycott the state of Georgia, and they moved their All Star 588 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,239 game in response to Georgia making a mild improvement in their voting laws when they 589 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,079 really should have done some massive improvement. But their protest was that they were 590 00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:38,920 making any improvement, and it was very hard for me to stop watching baseball. 591 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:42,880 And I guess, yeah, I guess if they apologized, it would 592 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,480 be no problem coming back. I don't expect an I do not expect an 593 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:50,000 apology. I'm not naive. But if they would just apologize for what they 594 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,400 did to people like me. I would be very happy to go back to 595 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,039 watching. And I do you know, occasionally I'm like, I I'll see 596 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,639 people talking about it. I'm like, oh, remember when I devoted like 597 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,679 hours of my week each week to this? Did you ever read that Frederick 598 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,440 Exuley? Is that his name? Frederick Extually? Book? A fans note? 599 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,440 Oh you've told me about this? No I have not yet. Yeah, 600 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,880 yeah, New York or writer or something that. Yeah, where is 601 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,159 that the boxing one? Maybe I'm confused? Yeah, no I have not. 602 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:21,239 So you love this book, is what you're saying. Well, I 603 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,480 highly recommend it, and I do, and sometimes I can recommend it and 604 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,800 I realize that other people aren't going to like it as much as I do. 605 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,039 But it's sort of about a guy realizing that he was devoting I mean, 606 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,440 it's about a lot of issues, but one of them being about how 607 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,599 he was carrying a lot about out a sporting team that does not care about 608 00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:44,960 him. I just want to say a quick programming note that I had last 609 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,559 episode promised that this episode would be all about politics, and I had lied 610 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:52,639 about that. We decided that this episode was not going to be politics about 611 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:58,320 politics all the time. Though I think we touched on the despondent, despondency 612 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,960 of and fatigue of all the politics. Wait, David's gonna ask you the 613 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,400 base So on baseball though you're watching it this year, what do you think 614 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,519 about all the rules changes? And like, I know that they're what is 615 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:15,079 it? The games are shorter, there's a clock what. I don't know. 616 00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:16,880 I don't care if the games are shorter. I don't know why everyone 617 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,800 got all worked up about that. Baseball is a slow moving game. It 618 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,599 has a certain rhythm, and I you know, I used to be a 619 00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:27,599 massive baseball fan, used to work for MLB for a while, and I 620 00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:29,760 used to go to games and just sit there, and you know, it 621 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,119 was just an experience. I didn't want it to end quickly or anything like 622 00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:35,320 that. So I don't really get all of that. But I am not 623 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,039 watching a ton this year. I'm a much bigger I'm just a huge hockey 624 00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:40,840 fan. I'm a fan of the New York Rangers. I watch every single 625 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:49,039 game I have for probably thirty years now or more. And as I told 626 00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,719 you, I think a few episodes ago, there is like I don't they'd 627 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,320 have to do a lot for me not to watch them, Like they'd have 628 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,480 to like have PLO flags on their uniforms maybe or something. It's going to 629 00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:01,519 take a lot for me not to watch, and I wish it wasn't that 630 00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:05,679 way. But I have to say hockey has been pretty good. They dropped 631 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,679 the Pride Day stuff when some of the players didn't want to wear those jerseys 632 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,880 instead of making a big deal out of it embarrassing the players, and they 633 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,239 just let them make their own choices, which I think is important. So 634 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,920 I think they've done a pretty good job in general. So, Molly, 635 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,639 last episode, we talked about how we both got into journalism, and you 636 00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:27,559 gave us, you know, your story and all of that. But so 637 00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:30,480 let's talk a little bit about the last ten years. And it's funny, 638 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,599 I know you ten years around now. Actually think August will be when we 639 00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:37,679 first met or when the Federals started. I'm not sure if it was September 640 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,880 August ten years ago. But what has changed in that time, Like, 641 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,880 what's been the biggest Someone's asking, like, what has been the biggest change 642 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,039 in journalism that you've witnessed over that ten years? Oh, it is, 643 00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,960 it's been a big ten years. I think ten years ago there was still 644 00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,599 an attempt to like feign toward objectivity as a goal that people wanted to have, 645 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,880 or you know, not to be just straight up political propagandists. I 646 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,440 don't know why I do this this, but occasionally I read the CNN newsletter 647 00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,079 Reliable Sources. I think it's called I don't know what it's called. It 648 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:19,960 used to be written by Brian Stelter, and it was like if a really 649 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:24,559 bad fourth grade student who knew nothing was like trying to explain the world's events 650 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:32,519 too. He got fired and got replaced by a much dumber, much more 651 00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:38,599 politically rabid, like crazy person, and it is almost impossible to believe it's 652 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:43,719 for real, like the level of you know, this would be an example 653 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:49,719 of how he would write. He'd be like crazy election denier. Kaylee mcinaney 654 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,599 hosted the seven pm Conspiracy Hour. I mean, like you're just like you're 655 00:45:53,639 --> 00:46:00,159 a grown man, act like a grown man. And these people just go 656 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:01,320 out there, whether they're Jake Tapper, be like that, and they're just 657 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:08,920 like using phases that nobody would have ever used even as they were crazy leftists 658 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:15,039 before. You know, like if you're a Democrat and you challenge an election, 659 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,079 you're defending democracy. If you're a Republican and you challenge an election, 660 00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:23,320 you're denying. You're an election denier. Like they don't care, Like they've 661 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:30,280 openly embraced that they are partisan propagandists and they don't care. And so it's 662 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,760 kind of cool because now you realize, like there's no point in ever working 663 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,599 with them, like in a reasonable way. You just know that they're political 664 00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:42,519 activists. But it's still kind of sad and shocking. What do you think 665 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,840 now? I think that you hit on the key change is that they went 666 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,119 from being biased to be They went from being biased to being activists. There's 667 00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,199 a difference between those two things. I've always made excuses for them that they 668 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,519 saw the world and in the newsroom I worked and I saw this. They 669 00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,199 saw the world to the prism of their leftist leftism, and that's how they 670 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:07,960 wrote. But now it's they know they're lying. They know that they're completely 671 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,800 abdicating their responsibility as journalists, taking on one source stories and running with them 672 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,960 when they know it's just half truths and things like that to bring down you 673 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,039 know, presidents they don't like, or people they don't like and they use 674 00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:25,000 you know, when when when a journalist who's supposed to bring clarity to the 675 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,239 world says things like gender affirming care, they're no longer journalists. They're just 676 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,519 some kind of pagan pr person, right. I mean, there's no other 677 00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:39,159 way to look at it, and I have I completely think it needs to 678 00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:43,440 be destroyed. I hate when people I still like hate when like people lose 679 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,679 their jobs and stuff in journalism because it is a hard profession in many ways. 680 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,039 But these days I like cheer on. I hope CNN is burned to 681 00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:52,639 the ground. I hope every one of them loses their jobs there. I 682 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:59,199 can't help it. So yeah, because they've it's not even if, like 683 00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:00,800 I've said, there's so many times and people don't believe me. It's not 684 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,239 like how they went after It's not that they go after Republicans. That bothers 685 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,000 me. It's only that they only go after Republicans. If they acted in 686 00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:13,159 the same crazy way going after the both candidates, it will be fine by 687 00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,000 me. And just look at now, look at what's going on now with 688 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:21,360 Hillary, how they acted with her classified document problems, how they act with 689 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,960 Biden, and how they act with Trump. They don't like Trump, so 690 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:30,599 they get to act, you know, to simply becomes spokespeople for for the 691 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,000 you know, for the Justice Department. And I don't know, it's just 692 00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:37,280 it gets me so riled up. I don't really even know which direction direction 693 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,719 to go in. But I did want to say one quick thing about media 694 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,119 reporters. Media reporters are like journalism professors. They've actually never done any journalism 695 00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:49,679 in their lives, so they I don't even understand how that job exists. 696 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,559 Why do we need naval gazing media reporters? Who really cares? I mean, 697 00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:55,880 we talk about it because we hate them, but who really cares what 698 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,559 the CEO of CNN is. When you were growing up, did you know 699 00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:01,840 who ran and CBS News or The New York Times? You didn't know, 700 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,800 you evedn't care. I disagree with you. I mean, to me, 701 00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:09,679 the media are one of the groups, if not the group, most responsible 702 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,440 for the destruction of the country. I absolutely want to know who the people 703 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,079 in charge are and what they're doing, but that's not my point. My 704 00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:21,679 point is we shouldn't know. It's not important quote unquote. Media reporters aren't 705 00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:27,960 Media reporters they're just like like Mark Hemingway wrote a piece about this related to 706 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,400 this left wing activist Tim Alberta riding up a thing on about CNN, and 707 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,760 it was just sort of it didn't deal with the fact that CNN had viciously 708 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,159 spread the Russia collusion hoax for years, or how they viciously spread the Kavanaugh 709 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,280 rape hoax for years, or how they had viciously tried to destroy the country 710 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,119 with endorsement of COVID lockdowns. It was basically about like which executives went to 711 00:49:53,199 --> 00:50:00,159 which party in the Hampton's it's journalism in service of the first of the elites 712 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:06,480 and against the American people. And that's what media reporting is these days. 713 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,760 It's kind of amazing because journalists like the old timey journalist. And again I'm 714 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,599 not romanticizing things because journalism has always been partisan, probably, but when you 715 00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:22,360 read Ben Hecked or like, uh, you know Menkin or something like Menkin 716 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,400 didn't even like people, but he was I wouldn't say a populous kind of 717 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,280 journalism, but he spoke for the people, right like they connected with the 718 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,239 people in their communities. Maybe not, maybe not, but he loved Baltimore 719 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,480 and he wrote about Baltimore or he you know, he lived in Chicago and 720 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,960 he loves Chicago. But now all these journalists are all just in DC. 721 00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:45,719 They hate the country they're in. They hate other than DC or New York. 722 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,000 They hate the country. Right, they write what was the Oh yeah, 723 00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,679 that variety was a variety of the rapp or something. They did this 724 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,920 piece on Brian Glazer's ex wife who was a big producer in Hollywood, and 725 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,199 this woman turned into a conservative and moved to Tennessee, and they write about 726 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,280 it like they're on some sort of expedition into the middle of the Congo in 727 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,639 eighteen twenty, right, like you keep waiting for the scandal, and the 728 00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:12,119 scandal is literally she moved to a Franklin, Tennessee, which is a very 729 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,440 nice place to exactly, I'm in there. And what was the tweet? 730 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,039 What did she say? Oh I wish I could remember. It was something 731 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:22,960 sobi not so innocuous. Oh yeah, the journalists or the country has been 732 00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:28,760 or the colleges have been taken over by the theater theater kids or whatever, 733 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,199 something like that. And it was funny and this was supposed to offend you. 734 00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:36,480 So that's my point. They're so out of touch with the world and 735 00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:39,760 what's going on and anyway. I mean the other day I floated this idea 736 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,039 that san and should probably would become the neutral network, Like I think that 737 00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:49,480 we could use a news network that just gave us really bare bones Swards David 738 00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:53,000 but never going to happen. And I don't even think. I don't like 739 00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:57,320 this. Okay, So first of all, if you look at the cable 740 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:04,199 outlets, they no longer have news like NBC and CNN. Every single show 741 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,519 is like left wing craziness. Okay, there's no single hour that's like a 742 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:14,360 news hour. It's all opinion. Fox where I work, does have opinion 743 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,480 programming a lot of it, but it also has straight news, and that 744 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:24,360 news is completely neutral or even you might say reminiscent of what we thought of 745 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,960 as neutral, like you know, ten or twenty years ago. So I 746 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:34,320 do think there's probably a market for, like, you know, conservative response 747 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,199 to NBC and CNN. But I don't like the idea that CNN would be 748 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:45,039 neutral between NBC and Fox, like CNN and NBC are crazy left wing. 749 00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:50,880 Fox actually does the neutral stuff like there I'm on there all the time with 750 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,599 Democrats or you know, whether they're open democrats or they're like media types and 751 00:52:55,639 --> 00:53:00,280 they go out of their way to present, you know, the entire range 752 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,519 of opinion. And yes they have like Sean Hannity and other people that have 753 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,519 political views. They're pretty you know, like either populist right or other forms 754 00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:14,960 of being on the right. But they also have just straight news shows throughout 755 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,360 the day. Now, I think that's that I was slightly I don't want 756 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,280 to be unfair to Fox because I actually think they have people who are pretty 757 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:29,920 straightforward news folks, and I don't I'm not trying to frame the CNN project 758 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,000 as like in between MSNBC and Fox News. I mean that I would like 759 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,719 me and I'm sure there's no audience for this. A station that was more 760 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,320 like c Span or something like that, which said, here's what Congress did 761 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,679 today, the five things they did, Here's what happened here, here's what 762 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,800 happened there, and just gave us the news. I get a lot of 763 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,079 this and someone asked you this, like, what's you know? Like I 764 00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:53,480 wrote, Nanny stayed And people will be like, well, it's great that 765 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,639 you're complaining about it. What's the solution or you know, what's the solution 766 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,000 here or what's the solution there. I don't really have solutions all the time 767 00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:06,519 or ever. Really I don't have solutions. My solution is My solution has 768 00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,920 always been gridlock and just stopping people from doing things. That's my solution. 769 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,280 I don't want things to happen. But how about you, I mean, 770 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,880 do you feel like you're giving enough solutions to how to stop what's going on? 771 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,400 To how to improve things, to how to you know, where are 772 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:29,039 we just to thetalistic about the world in general? Okay, I think it's 773 00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,800 actually a great question, and it's a question that we get a lot from 774 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,559 people, and it's a little bit frustrating because I don't view my vocation as 775 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:43,880 solution giver like thanks. As a reporter, I do think it's my job 776 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,639 to explain the situation that's you know, to like report accurately about what's going 777 00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:52,760 on, to provide context about what's going on, to go on TV and 778 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:58,119 speak about the real things that are going on. And in my perfect world, 779 00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:01,920 there would be other people that coming up with solutions. The more time 780 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,280 I spend in this, I think you kind of get this too, because 781 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,280 I've noticed it in your writing. You do start kind of realizing that there's 782 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,400 nobody else out there giving solutions and you need you need to pick up some 783 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,400 of that work too, even though it's not really our job. This is 784 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,360 like, to me the story of gen X realizing they have to do things 785 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,679 that they never wanted to do, and so, like I think about it. 786 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,519 For me, for some reason, I'm thinking back to the Kavanaugh situation, 787 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,960 and it was really important to report accurately about what was going on there, 788 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,400 and we nailed that at the Federalist like we really nailed that, and 789 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:45,559 then at some point it was also apparent that we needed to help these idiots 790 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,639 in the Senate get the courage to continue on with what they were supposed to 791 00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:53,639 be doing. Like it wasn't enough that we exposed all of what was actually 792 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,800 going on there, which should have been enough for senators to be like, 793 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,480 Okay, well now we're gonna like we're gonna put this drama to an end. 794 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,159 We also had to kind of like remind them that if they didn't vote 795 00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:09,000 this way, they would not do well in the midterms. And they did 796 00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:14,239 vote the right way and they did very very well in the midterms. And 797 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,199 I feel like that's also what we're going through right now. Just generally speaking, 798 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:23,920 we have a completely out of control Justice Department, and historically speaking, 799 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:29,159 maybe what Republicans would do would be complain about it. And I think we're 800 00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:30,920 having to like help show like, Okay, it's not sufficient to complain. 801 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:37,360 You actually have to also take action with whatever limited power you have, and 802 00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,880 reverting back to like this weak, impotent stance is not going to cut it 803 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,639 with the American people. And so I'm not even being like specific about what 804 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,079 are some of the things we talk about that need to be done, but 805 00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:57,119 just that real action has to be taken to stop the slow slide into the 806 00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:02,440 abyss that we seem to be. Yeah, I don't know. I never 807 00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:07,480 have when I was a local columnist, And I'm just saying that sometimes I 808 00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:14,079 think local journalism or journalists matter more than national journalists in a way because you 809 00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:16,599 know, it's just a small, smaller pond, you know, or it's 810 00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:21,199 just a pond instead of it Like but whatever I would, I was an 811 00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:23,400 attack dog. I didn't see my job as come up with solutions. That's 812 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,000 your job. You're a politician, You make policy. My job is to 813 00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:30,440 say what you're doing stinks and what you're doing is destructive and you're being a 814 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,480 coward, right, And I think just pointing out when people are being cowards 815 00:57:34,639 --> 00:57:37,599 is a very good and important job. Listen. I'm not saying our jobs 816 00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:45,119 are, like you, more important than whatever people who are listening do. 817 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,239 I don't think we're that important. But you or I and you have a 818 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,280 bigger one, but I have one too. We have a microphone right now, 819 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,840 and we can point these things out to a lot of people, and 820 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,760 I think that's vital. I don't think I need to come up with solutions. 821 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,159 You need to come up with solutions, not you. Um, I'm 822 00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,599 not a political person. I know it's weird to say. You said it 823 00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:07,559 I think earlier in this episode, but I'm not a political I don't like 824 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:14,000 politics. Does that make sense to you? Yes? I sometimes like, 825 00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:17,400 I'm so confused at how my life ended up where I am like I I 826 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,800 write about it, we edit about it, I go on TV and talk 827 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,320 about I'm like, I'm not this isn't even on my top ten list of 828 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:29,079 things I care about. But I get in our writing as well. I 829 00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,239 feel like we're talking about the world and how it affects us. We don't 830 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,400 actually like the process of how these things are achieved, right, I mean, 831 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,000 I don't care about like how Congress works exactly, like all the stupid 832 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,880 like tools they have to do what they do. I care about the end 833 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,920 result and where you stand and where you know and how brave or cowardly you 834 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,360 are. Does that make sense? Yeah? And like with the Russia clusion 835 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,119 hoax, I knew it was my job to report the truth on that, 836 00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:57,760 and I'm very pleased with how that turned out. And I think that getting 837 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,039 the truth out there really was important. But I do sympathize with people who 838 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:06,960 say yes, and now that we know the truth of what happened, someone 839 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,719 should actually be held not just someone, everyone who participated in that should be 840 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,679 held accountable. And instead we have like half of a person being held accountable. 841 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,400 It is no way to run a country. But I can't, Like 842 00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:22,480 I can be the journalist who exposes the wrongdoing, I can't also be the 843 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,920 legal strategist. I'm not even a lawyer, you know. Like I can't 844 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,400 be the Capitol Hill strategist. I have no experience there. Like I'm counting 845 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:37,159 on other people to take the information that we get out there and run with 846 00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,519 it, and everyone needs to kind of up their game a little bit, 847 00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:44,519 because like I already feel like I can't be the person who has to debunk 848 00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:49,719 every single falsehood that the left does. Like at some point, y'all need 849 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,880 to kind of step up as well. And just what I mean by that 850 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,480 too, is like with the Kavanaugh thing, everybody with a brain should have 851 00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,199 figured out right away that that was a hoax. Everyone, certainly everyone who's 852 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,679 not a leftist, because the people and left probably did know it was a 853 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,239 hoax. Everyone who's not a leftist journalist should have done that. And instead, 854 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,400 like we're out there having to like not just report the facts, but 855 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,800 kind of like help the other people on the right get the courage to also 856 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,719 be out there. And then we're also supposed to be like, well, 857 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,960 you're supposed to have a plan for what to do to fix the you know, 858 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,360 to get this nomination through or whatever. It's like we can't do everything. 859 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,719 Other people really do need to step up, and particularly the political class 860 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,800 I think needs to step way up. And like it's kind of shocking that 861 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,280 you have Republicans with like this tiny, tiny majority in the House and they're 862 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,280 actually you know, like certainly a lot that you could complain about, but 863 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,960 they're actually getting stuff done. And then you have like supposedly the most brilliant 864 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,719 mind and the history of politics, Mitch McConnell, and he can't do anything, 865 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,599 Like, he can't do anything rhetorically, he can't do anything strategically, 866 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,679 he can't get anything done. He can't even like be a resistance to what's 867 01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:00,079 getting done. And it's like, that's not my job to be Senate minority 868 01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:05,840 leader. That's your job, Like do it, do it well? Sorry? 869 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,239 No, I love that. I love that. It's like when people 870 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:12,679 sometimes attack me and they're like, no one agrees with you on this abortion 871 01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:15,800 thing that you're writing, or no one agrees with you. I don't care. 872 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,880 Who cares if they agree with me. What I'm writing is what I 873 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,719 think is the truth, the moral and political truth. It's your job to 874 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:28,519 like package it with fancy euphemisms it sell it to people and commercials. I 875 01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:30,760 don't know how to do any of that. I told you this a million 876 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,519 times, Molly. Literally, I don't think of the three other people live 877 01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:36,559 in this house that I would win an election for anything in this house. 878 01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:40,559 I cannot convince people to agree with me. That is the job of professionals 879 01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:44,920 who are supposed to do that. But man, okay, but you're wrong. 880 01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:52,360 You're very persuasive in your I don't think. But anyway, Molly, 881 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,760 I hope you have a nice vacation. It's been a pleasure doing this these 882 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,840 episodes with you and learning more about you. I learned a lot of things 883 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,960 I didn't know about how you became a journalist and your thought process and all 884 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,679 that, and your matchmaking skills, which I still think we should do a 885 01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:10,440 whole episode on because it's really fascinating. How because I don't understand women at 886 01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:13,880 all, even though there are three other three of them in my house, 887 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,559 and and so I found that very fascinating. I actually cut it off because 888 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:21,880 I thought maybe people wouldn't care, but we'll see what the reaction is, 889 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,840 and if they do, maybe we can do an episode on that. So 890 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,119 thank you and everyone else be lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame.