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What is this episode? Because the show hasn't started yet. No, it
hasn't All Stars for us. Finally, here I read, and this is
obvious to anybody listening, but this is the duration between when they shot All
Stars four and when they aired. It is twice as long as the last
record of like how long it took to put a season out? So there
you got, yeah, twice as long. Crazy? All right, So
we are going to run through the cast. I'm gonna do a screen share
and I have joker once enough. You haven't only fans yet, Carlin.
No, we've been talking about making for the show we made that. We
talked about it with Hillary and Amanda. Maybe we should revisit that conversation.
I've lost some weight we got, Carlin. Maybe maybe there's some people out
there who knows. Remember that one Emily, she would have paid. I
bet that Emily would have paid. Hey, yeah, you could get yeah,
Zach single, we can bring in, we could bring in Wolfy and
Cindy to do some couples content for us. Jesus Christ. No, this
has just gone off the rails already. I mean, I won't pay for
it, but I'll take whatever cut you got on OnlyFans. Gross is my
screen shirt popping up? Yes, it's popped up, but it's black right
now. All kinds of fun technical difficulties. So it's just like a fucking
work. Everybody see my screen? No you yet, dude? Oh sorry,
I was on mutebody see it now? No, I can't see anything.
Well, this obviously does not well. The worst listeners captivating or what?
I don't I don't know why. Why don't you wilfy? Why don't
you send the Yes? There is, Oh but there's a there's sound coming
from it. There is, Yeah, I hear something too. Can you
can you mute that window? I don't know how to mute my browser?
Hold on, I think if I mute my browser, mute you know what
we hear? Time you could in their mind. Well, we're having all
sorts of issues now because now Wolf is like sputtering out carling. Are you
still with me? Mistake with ye? And yes, stuttering we be's sputtering.
Now, let's just go through the names. Let's go to the names.
Yeah, just send us the link and then we can I'm spposed to
get the chat room. Give me a second, now, now are we
wanting to it's mad at me again? Are we going through the names alphabetically
or are we doing uh? As people get brought up, I think we
go it's going. It's going, it's going alphabetically, starting with the men.
But then how do we okay, how do like we're combining this with
am I allowed to say what we're doing? Yet? That's at the end.
We're going on the cast first, we're getting the other thing second.
All right, I'm with you, good lord, No wonder if we haven't
done this in over a month. Hey, I'm ready stellar Stellar podcast content.
All right, So we're gonna go over the cast of All Stars four.
It's gonna go alphabetical. We're gonna do men first and then women.
Yes, it's sexist, and I don't give a fuck. Are you looking
at a different page? Wolf, because this is interspersed men and women.
I'm not sure is it? I literally just it is just Avery's number three.
So yeah, we're getting okay, nope. I didn't scroll down that
far. I saw the first two and it's Ace and then Adam, so
I was like, oh, it's alphabetical men first, gotcha? So it
is it is very liberated. Okay, so let's go first up. Looks
like, uh so they're really bumping down the cash prize. It looks like
for these shows. Yeah, I mean, well it's it seems like it's
no. I guess All Stars wasn't It was the World Championship and the international
ones were only two fifty Oh yeah, yeah, but the other All Stars
have been five hundred, right, yeah, and this is three hundred yeah,
because then the main show was like a million until this last season.
Yeah. And it also feels weird, like, and I know, Twitter
grand is a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but Twitter Grant
in terms of like this TV show, is it really that it's got?
It feels like it's got to be like five percent of the budget or something,
you know what I mean, Like, why are they being so cheap
with it? Yeah? It's weird because there are so many other big shows
out there like this, honestly, Rivals Survivor and Big Brother and don't they
win a million dollars on Survivor and like half a million dollars on Big Brother.
Yeah yeah, and for Survivor they've won a million for twenty years.
This is supposed to be a game that rivals those, then why have they
not to be? To be fair, I don't think ratings wise, it
really rivals either one of them. Yeah, I think I think even the
main line show like doesn't live up to survive Our Big Brother, those big
ones, to let alone the All Stars. Yeah, yeah, it is
me. It just feels like TV versus CBS. So yeah, it is
to me. It just feels like, like, I mean, how much
do you think All Stars for, Like that's got to be close to five
or ten million dollars right to get everybody's appearance fees, and like the whole
staff and the house. I would assume it would cost more than that.
You would be surprised how quickly stuff adds up on Yeah, well, I
guess that's what I mean, Like it's got to be really expensive to shoot.
So did she think that the cash prize seems weird? I doubt that
the appearance fees are as high as you think they are, because all of
these almost all of these people haven't been there in years, and for most
shows, they're not the first or second season back. They're not getting paid
that much money. Yeah, but this season has, like car Maria and
Leroy been there in literally years, like all the other five years, five
years. Many shows that I watch, yeah there. I'd listened to a
few podcasts that have reality TV producers on them, and their big thing is
like, if you leave and then come back, you are starting at the
bottom. They don't get you back at the same rate that you were at
when you left. You come back at the bottom or very close to it.
So if Kara has been gone for five years, she's probably getting close
to what all of these other people are getting. I doubt that she's getting
the same appearance fee that she was getting back when she was at her prime.
Yeah, We Allstars has got to be a smaller appearance fee because it's
only a few weeks. I suppose a few months, but I still think
I mean, out of what is there twenty contestants or twenty thirty or something
twenty five. So let's say let's say the appearance fee is twenty grand each,
which is probably less than it actually is, but that's half a million,
right there, just an appearance just to get everybody to show up as
half a million. You can't give half a million as the prize. I
don't know. It just feels weird. Yeah, that is a little strange
anyway. Yeah, I don't know. So cash prize for this one is
three hundred grand. Yeah, yeah, I guess I didn't even notice that.
Guys brought it up. Yeah, we're gonna be in Cape Town,
South Africa. Yeah, I would love to. Yeah, new thing.
I wonder if they'll actually announce it on the show, because that seems to
be a thing that they left in the in the dust many many, many
years ago. I always liked when they announced it, like we're in Turkey,
We're in Turks and Caicos, We're in tel you're right, Colorado.
I don't And they were trying to make it like they were trying to make
challenges and stuff like referential to the place where they were sor I'm just gonna
keep talking to They would try to like make it make it cultural, you
know. Yeah, I think it's uh, I think it's it's more subtle
than it used to be. I think literally, in the first episode,
TJ is like Welcome to Beautiful Panama City, Panama, and then they just
you know, go on with the show and never bring it up again.
But yeah, and I guess in the last few years everything has been kind
of it's been very locked down because of COVID and whatnot. So all of
the parties and everything happened in the house or around the house, and then
all of the challenges happened in a very specific location, like away from other
people. It wasn't in like the middle of a city like they used to.
Yeah, and you can see like scenery and stuff repeated like on those
Spy seasons. You know, you could see some of the locations were the
same. I don't know, it just is a little different than you used
to be. Yeah, you can tell that they'd reuse sets, like last
season they reused the the elimination set like four or five times yeaheah. And
even on Survivor we have them now using like the same island for twenty years
or twenty season straight. So I think one shows get older, they just
kind of stopped trying. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it also saves them
a butt load in production fees because everything's already there. They don't have to
fly things in and fly things out and set everything up. From from what
I understand, they CBS literally just bought an island at Fiji. Oh yeah,
that's what I've heard. That's where they shoes Survivor now yeah, yep,
yep, it's the same beaches and everything. They have to go dig
up fake eye and stuff between seasons. Now oh really, Yeah, they
don't want other seasons finding what old seasons left for them and ship Yeah.
Oh that's funny. Can you imagine having a show where I'm sure they wouldn't
actually show it on the on the edited version of the show, but can
you imagine if they found idols from an old show, like hey, look
I've got one. Yeah. I've heard some of like the players, because
you know a lot of times they'll film two seasons, like back to back,
so you hear some of these interviews with Field that played like the second
season of the year. They're like, yeah, the coconut trees were empty
because like the first season just wiped out all the coconuts. Man, I
would murder somebody. Yeah, I'm fucking fat, I need something to eat.
I need coconuts. Guess hey, you lose all that weight real quick,
no cocon. All right, should we get into the cast? Yea,
we should? Uh. First up, we got Ace coming back.
Seem like he seems like he said he was never coming back, and all
of a sudden, there he is. Yeah. Yeah, he also his
So I just rewatched the three previous seasons, two of the last three seasons,
all three whatever. I just rewatched the All Star seasons and the season
that he was on. He also said that he didn't want to win for
himself. He wanted to win to then give all the money away. Like
that doesn't seem like that rude. Ace is one of my favorites from back
in the day. I fucking loved Ace so much. Yeah, me too.
I hated his return on All Stars. He seemed just like, I
don't know, he had a bad attitude. He was just sort of shitty.
I hope we get the goofball fun Ace back. That's who I want.
I mean, that serious Ace guy. The Goofball showed up just a
little bit, like after he got voted into his elimination and he went and
pouted. He then showed up to their nineties party in eighteen nineties gear.
He was in like full suit of armor mail like it was it was great
that Ace. I want to see that ages this season. Yep. I
picture Ace as the guy singing nude with the guitar in front of the pool
and then he jumped in and everybody's laughing and shit, it's like, that's
who I want to see. I don't want that Ace. That's got a
bad attitude. Yeah, I agree with that. Was Was it a bad
attitude? Or do you just not like the type of people that everybody has
turned into that the way the same people they were. Yeah, well Carl
and you just more recently watched it. But didn't he say something shitty like
I don't want to even play with these shows with these people of this character,
or he said something weirdong those lines by a few different people, like
Beth said that at one point in time, Tina said that she didn't want
to play because she didn't like the person that it turned her into, and
then she showed up on the next season. But those were like dramatic people
who Marissa said that she didn't want to come back because she doesn't like everybody
there snakes and she doesn't like any of them. She also wanted to be
but she's dramatic too, Like all those people are high drama, and I
would expect that from them. Ace seemed very low drama, very chill.
Just he's there to have a good time. And that's not the vibe I
got at All Stars. But we'll see. Maybe he's back the Ace I
like is back, hopefully fingers crossed. Yeah, it also says I'm here
that he has done five challenges. Does that include? Do you know if
these include the All Stars Challenge? I know? All right? Next up,
we got Adam Larson. Fun fact, Adam Larson has liked a bunch
of us, has liked our posts on Instagram. I've seen that. Yes,
it's unfortunate Adams. I don't think I know who Adam Larson is.
I think this is the one that Tim and Wolf or Tim and Zach were
talking about like a season or two ago that wilfy you and I couldn't remember
at all. But he's he fought Abram, right, that's what That's what
I know Adam Larson for. He got in a fight with Abram on one
of the road Rule seasons. Did he's that sound right? I never watched
Road Rules, so I believe so. And yeah, and just to clarify
earlier, the season count does include all stars, does okay? Cool?
Adam Larson has always seemed very inauthentic to me. He just seems cheesy and
fake and annoying. I just don't like him. I have legitimately no memory
of him. Okay, Well, we'll see if you're if you're impressions match
mine later on. Yeah, so he has three challenges and one win under
his belt. Next up, we got Avery. She is from there.
Oh, we have we have Avery. She uh was on the season with
Jordan and Naya on the Real World, and I believe her and Naya are
the reason security is so strict on these shows now, Yeah, because didn't
they get into a fight that season? Like she was standing at a door,
out of a door with a pot and pan or a phone or something.
The Naya got into a bunch of fights, specifically in that episode,
and she pulled out her hair dryer and was gonna bash it was Johnny Weir
over the head with it or Johnny Weir Riley what's the other Riley? Johnny
Riley over the head with it and Avery and him were dating. So Avery
just waited on like the other side of the door jam, and as soon
as that door opened, everybody just started fucking beating each other. It seemed
like every season after that security has been more tight on stuff like that,
So I blame that specific season. I wonder did that know that must have
been significantly later than the ct Adam fight. Because the ct Adam fight and
the Brad holding a knife and running around the house, I think those two
are the big instances as to why the challenge has major security possible. Avery's
a weird one. She is big in like the fandom. I see a
lot of people talk about Avery winning Avery back. I don't care about really
in my head, she's never really done anything exciting. Like she was paired
with Johnny Riley at one point in time. She's their exes. Yeah,
she's never really done anything. Yeah. Yeah, she was I think popular
from her real world season. Or is she popular because she's real hot in
a Hooters girl. Well, I mean that doesn't hurt. But that's the
other thing. Everybody says how hot she is. She just looks like she's
obviously like objective, like she's attractive. I don't like yeah, but it
is like like she's just sort of this pretty I don't know. I don't.
I don't see you like how people are sort of like just into avery
like that. Let's be real, tim if you went to Hooters and she
was working, you'd be like, I'd like to order the chicken breast hold
the chicken pull Michael Scott. I don't think I would. I don't think
I would know. She just is sort of call bullshit, slightly above average
too. Apparently this is only her second challenge, so third third, this
is yeah, she's done two. Well, I thought we said that these
include All Stars, previous previous All Star, previous All Stars. I don't
think it includes this season of All Stars because they haven't technically, they haven't
actually competed. No, I was wondering because Ace has been in the previous
All Stars seasons, so I didn't know if that included if his like five
challenges included the previous All Stars that he was in or well, I misunderstood.
I misunderstood the question and the answer, You're all good next Upana is
back, Okay, right, so I'm not excited about No, I like
it. She annoyed that the season where she told Jody that I ate your
salad and I didn't use a fork. I used my hands, and I
loved it. She wanted to feel rich, That's right, she wanted to
feel rich. Though I do. I do have to say this, Iana
has recently been going through a massive cancer battle. She it sounds like she
may have just gone through some serious chemo. I hope that she's doing well
and that she is feeling and whatnot, So I will put that out there
even though the season, even though we don't like people on the show,
doesn't mean we wish them harm in real life. Exactly well, And isn't
Iana the one that like she beat whoever it was in whatever challenge and then
she like was rooting her on, like uh right, yes, yeah,
because Leah came back for that. I think it was Leah she came back.
It was the first time she'd been back in like fifteen plus years.
And Iana finished her challenge, finished the elimination, and then they were pulling
really heavy sleds across the sand right and Leah just could not get it going,
and Iana not only cheered her on, but then ran back and grabbed
the rope with her and they carried it across the line, which is for
that massive I just have no I don't know. She just didn't interest me
as a player. She'd I would. There are other people I would rather
see, that's all. Sure. I have a soft spot for Awn.
I slept in my uniform last night. She's great, I did. I
did like that. That was a good part. Yea or challenge or challenges.
Next up, Tim's Tim's favorite bug guys himself. I love it.
I love it, mister guys. The beard. Yes. Quite possibly.
One of my favorite scenes in the All Stars Uh shows was Nima Maya and
niamayah Uh dressing up getting John Ay's hair extensions and gluing them to his face
and then wander around with his eyes doing the Brad walk. Walks up to
Brad Brad, I'm here, we're gonna do it. You're gonna do it.
When Brad was going into elimination, yep, God, Brad was dying.
I think all the audience was dying. It was great. That was
a spectacular show up or showing of named Maya and of Brad. Brad was
a real chill about that. He candled that really well. Yeah, he's
just a sincere good guy. I just like, there's just something about that
dude. I just like him. I'm always going to root for him.
I love Brad. I don't know he annoys me. There are times where
I really love him. There are also times where he annoys the shit out
of me. Carlin's the negative one this season. Look at me loving everybody.
Carlin's hating everybody. Now we know Tim's just happy. It's not another
battle for a new champion. That's right. I fucking hated that season.
Brad has twelve challenges, one win under his belt. Good lord. Next
up, Brandon. Brandon's back. Yeah, he's great. I look forward
to seeing Brandon because he was he was the guy who his first season and
he got thrown in. No, not his first season, Yeah, cutthroat
is that he got thrown over and he had like five eliminations that season.
He is way too n Yes, I like because Brandon just seems like a
dude that I would like know in real life. Like he's just chill and
easy and non you know what I mean. Like he just seems like a
normal It's like, why are you on TV? You're too normal for this
ship? Yep, I do. When I first saw his picture out of
the corner of my eye, I thought it was Nelson was very confused.
He's got the Nelson haircut and beard going on right now. Of like Nelton
the last season's last name as his last name. Uh five challenges. The
big return for this season. I'm so excited what we saw from what we
saw last season. Hopefully more uh bet her head on her shoulders, Carl
Maria. Hopefully it's got a nice break, some nice mental health work.
Hopefully. Please, it's gonna this. This season is gonna be spicy with
her return and with Laurel in there, and it just, oh my god,
I'm so looking forward to this. I'm looking forward to the mess that
is going to be Kara and that whole situation, and it's just it's so
good to see her again. Oh, we've needed a break. I think
she's needed to break herself. I hope she's in a better space. I'm
ready to fall in love with car Marie again. She's still just as fucking
hot as she used to be. Yeah, for sure, Tim's favorite porn
pirate. Yeah, when you like the cutthroat version of her, and this
is so stupid, but when she wears those like like the bear hat with
the little ears, oh my gosh, it's like, oh my god,
I see what these furryes like. Man, I get it now. She
doesn't even have dark hair or as pale. I think she has dark hair
of the red. She could go pata. No, I'm super excited.
She's also fucking jacked, so it'll be it'll be fun to see her do
these challenges. YEP fourteen challenges, two wins, the first female uh individual
win, which was yeah, she's great. Uh. Derek Chavez and Tim
hung out with him a little bit in Nashville. He's there for fluff.
He'll be fun to have, but he's there for fluff. Yeah, yeah,
do you I don't. I don't see I don't see it. I'll
tell you why I love Derek Chavas because I met him ten years ago in
Vegas and the last challenge Man in Chicaga went to. I went up and
I was like, you probably don't remember me we met in Vegas. Is
like yes, I do, uz thatch and I was like, okay,
my favorite. Yeah, yeah, he'd be one of my favorites if you
remembered me after ten years too. Yeah, that's nice. That is a
skill. I respected people. I don't I can't do that. After half
an hour, I forget people's names and show I don't even know who you
guys are. So yeah, four challenges. Yeah, he'll be fun for
Fluff, but I don't think he's gonna go very far. Speaking of Fluff,
who's next All Flora And I'm not even an attempt to pronounce her last
name. Well, I don't know who she is last names for anybody else,
so I think you're fine. I don't know who Flora is, so
I don't she was in Real with Miami. She's only got one challenge under
her bat so it must have been like almost fucking twenty years old, twenty
years ago when she was on. Yeah, I honestly don't remember her season
of the Challenge. If I can be honest, I remember her on on
the Miami season, but I don't remember her. Dan is the only one
I remember from Miami. Oh, Joe, Joe, Mike, Nope,
Nope, nope, nope. Yeah, I do not remember her at all.
So next, uh, we saw her last season of All Stars.
I think I'm I'm kind of surprised that Janelle has come back. Me too,
because in the last season she spent the last two or three episodes really
really really complaining to Durrell, who was her partner at the time, that
she had a massive back injury years ago and that she's now because she's I
think she's a nurse and she's on her feet all the time and she cannot
afford to get hurt, and that these challenges are not worth her getting.
I mean, she still ended up doing the final, but she really harped
on the fact that she cannot get hurt because it'll ruin her actual career.
So I'm surprised that she's here. I am too. There's some of these
people seem too normal for this show, and she's one. It's like you
just like you have like a job and shit, like you're a responsible like
you're a regular human, like just just do that and not just like a
normal everyday people job like you are in the healthcare field, you are.
I think she's a nurse, Like that's a that's a legit profession she has.
She's mentioned something about lilivery babies, and it was really like, that's
it. That's you take some serious time to get into that kind of profession.
Yeah, So I'm just surprised that she's here. It'll be fun to
see her though, because if she has any kind of showing like she did
last season, she has some real potential. Yeah she's good. Sure,
Uh our good buddy, Jasmine, Me and Tim met in Nashville. She's
tiny, very tiny. I love her too. She's great. She's not
a competitor, she's not gonna she is also there for fluff. Yeah,
like she's but she's always she's fun after her. You know, she's had
a few complete blow ups on the shows, but yeah, I love those
are fun to see. Those are fun. She kind of had a little
bit of a blow up in Nashville too while there. Oh oh, I
don't remember that really. Uh, we were lying to see her. We
were the next people. Seemed like she was having a rough time, and
then she looked at us just sort of did like and then just turn around
and walked out onto the balcony. And we were just like, are we
just staying here and wait? Or do we I guess, I guess we're
I guess we're done. Let's just get a drink and out. I ended
up talking to her for a minute. Yeah on the way out. Yeah,
she was walking and like, yeah, but but yeah, I don't
know, she was out there crying about something and I'm just like, I
don't know what's happening. Yeah, Well, at least she's got six challenges
under her belt, Yeah, which is a pretty impressive record. Yeah.
I mean there's another one that I think she's gonna be a lost lot though.
Like you guys were saying about Derek, but if we want to talk
about fluff and choking and just all around a terrible performance. Jay Mitchell,
Jenna's Jenna's ex boyfriends. I'm I am pro him being on this season.
He had like the most embarrassing showing. He has a lot to prove.
Yes, I think he's gonna come in with a chip on a and something
and he's gonna have something to say. Yeah, he's really gonna want to
prove himself because he went out in one of the worst ways. Yeah,
especially to have his partner of that season come back the next season and fucking
beastmote it even though she still can't eat anything like a Yeah, he's he's
got a lot to prove. But I so on our on our Facebook group,
someone I don't remember who it was, someone posted a whole little thing
underneath the All Stars post about how they don't understand why people like Jay,
and they mentioned someone else how they are making it onto shows like All Stars,
like why aren't they bringing back actual All Stars? And I almost posted
on there, but I figured I'd save it for this. I feel like
Jay does actually deserve a chance in this show because he has actually made it
to a final. He was a layup for that final. He was entirely
carried to it, but he was in a final. Technically, he does
qualify. I don't even care about him being in a final. I just
think he's made He has made challenge history, Like he's one of the people
that people talk about with this and so it's like it was like an embarrassing,
horrible moment. He deserves to come back and like try to redeem himself.
I'm excited either. TJ absolutely roasted him for it. Yeah, you
know you've seen the show, right, is that what he said to him?
And thinking back on it, like I do, I feel a tiny
bit bad for him because he got so much heat for that, even though
Jenna multiple times up until that point, said that she couldn't do it and
she didn't want to do the eating stuff, and he still did it.
Yeah, And then when I finally said, I don't know that I can
do it. She's like, okay, well let's not do it, and
then he got all the heat. So I've always said that Carl, and
I really think Jenna set him up the like, well, if you eat,
then I'll eat. I'm like, I don't think you have If Jay
eats, I think Jerry is absolutely no way Jenna would have would have drunk
that fish milk thing. Absolutely no way. We have seen just regular food
get put in front of her and she doesn't want to eat it. Yeah,
like everyday food that any of us would eat, even U Zac,
you might actually eat most of the food and she wouldn't eat it. Yeah,
either way, I'm excited to see him back. I know it's a
weird selection, but no, I agree with you. I am, I'm
right there with you. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can actually do.
Like I'm looking forward to seeing him come back and truly try, like
know that he has this this big thing that he has to overcome. I'm
looking for. You know what, the comparable one is Chavon, Like if
they got a chavn On one of these, it'd be similar. Everybody remembers
when she popped her implant, it would be just sort of a joke of
you know, yep. I don't know that we'll ever but Jay at least
did a decent like he at least tried, And I don't feel like she
ever did. No, she didn't, so I don't know that her coming
back wuld be quite the same. She popped an implant, but did she
actually implant or she said she popped the implant? Is it hurt when she
landed? Yeah, she said she did. But it's still something like people
talk about that moment and they talk about Shavon in those terms and and j
too. I like that they give him a second chance. Let's see what
you can. The only things that I remember about Chavon or that she popped
the implant and that she hooked up with CT in one of the seasons that
he and Dim right after they had broken up, and Dim was pissed.
But I have, like I have the image of her, the scene of
her running around the side of the house pulling her pants up, like it's
the only thing that run through my head. Uh. So Jay's only been
on one challenge, got embarrassed, never came back. I don't know if
it's like he got embarrassed or if they just never invited him back. I
think it's probably that. I agree they saw Jenna and said we could probably
make something out of her, and they saw him. No, but I
mean, they keep bringing some people back, so j could have been a
good uh uh sort of butt of a joke or something like fucking Dario sleeping
his way through challenges. Uh, sleepy Manda. I forgot. I forgot
about him. He really and he even called himself out at one point in
time, like halfway through the season like, yeah, I feel like I've
kind of been just you know, phoning it in this whole time, says
Jay was the Brian Dunkleman. That's true. Uh. Brian Dunkleman was the
co host of American Idol with Ryan Seacrest in the first season there was a
co host, Yes, exactly. That's good to know. I didn't know
that. I always thought that it was just Ryan Seacrest. I do not
remember there ever being a co host. Ryan Seacrest and Brian Dunkleman. One
of them rose to incredible fame, the other one was on Celebrity Fit Camp
on. One of them might have beef with because he is the reason why
Andy Cohen and uh Anderson Cooper were not allowed to drink on air for the
celebration two years ago because he got pissy because they got drunk on air and
he didn't get to They got to drink on air last year. So hey,
don't piss off Ryan Seacrest. He has an empire. Yeah, but
the Bravo fans are real cutthroat. Do you know who else's cutthroat? Kill
it Cam came brand new mom of two, that's right, although I think
she was mama of one at this point. She was she was mama of
one at this point, but they just recently, like within the last month,
uh, baby number two has arrived. Yeah, so between filming All
Stars four got pregnant and had a kid before All Stars four that's insane,
right, Yeah, I mean, to be fair, she could have potentially
gotten pregnant while on All Stars four sure, or beforehand. I mean,
we've seen them bring on multiple pregnant people. They've had such bad they've had
such a bad run of that recently. Yeah. Remember what was the Battle
of the Sexes too, where they had a pregnant woman on a surfboard.
Oh yeah, wasn't there another season right around that same time where one of
the one of the one of the challengers brought their kid with them the same
season. Well yeah, oh yeah that was bad the seasons. But a
contestant did bring a child one time. I would believe I brought her baby.
Yeah, it was fucking weird. Ye. Cam has been on five
challenges. I'm looking forward to seeing her. It's been a couple of seasons.
Yeah, I mean she was, she was a lot of fun.
It's I'm happy that she took a few seasons off because towards the end of
it there she was getting real like I don't know, I guess entitled because
her Killer Cam thing. I mean it's well earned, well deserved, but
it got a little time this. They all have this arc, right,
and so we like him when they're underdogs, and we don't like him when
they're sort of dominating and know it. Yeah, No, I'm looking forward
to seeing her though. I'm looking forward to seeing her kicks some ass.
See. Next up is Kefla. I don't know who this is. Yeah,
I don't have any memory of him either, but he does have one
challenge one win, so pretty fucking good record. It's true. I don't
remember hardly anything about him, but I liked him. I remember liking him.
That's my only memory, all right. And now he's a Zaddi.
He's a Zaddi, right, Carlyn. He's a hot dad. I guess
I don't really know what Zaddi technically is, but yes, I should think
Zaddy. Zaddy is an attractive older man with gray hair. Tim your kid,
I'll ask her, ask her what Zaddy is? Uh? Next up?
Those kids? Next up, Laurel. I am, yes, friend
of the show. I'm really excited and really dreading seeing her showed up because
Laura is a fucking asshole. She is an asshole always. She is always
an asshole. She is, I agree with you, but so is Jordan.
And I think that they're both equally fun to watch. I like,
no, I think, okay, they're fun. They Yes, they both
have really spectacular gameplay. They are very good at it. Jordan at least
has grown a little bit, so even though he can be an asshole,
he has learned how to not always be an asshole, or to at least
apologize for it. Laurel is just an asshole all the time to anybody,
and doesn't ever apologize. There's no growth in it, and that's like play
aside. Yeah it. That ship drives me up a fucking wall. I
love watching her play the game. Watching her play the game is awesome because
she kicks some serious ass unless she's playing Camilla and not so fast and just
gives up. You're so mad about that one, yep. I like.
I even like her interactions around the house. I just think she's kind of
no bullshit, no nonsense. She calls people out. I just I like
it. Yeah, but I don't. I don't entirely agree with that because
I feel like there are a lot of people who say, oh, well,
this person is no bullshit. They call people out, but they don't
really. They call people out for things that are like that they think they
should call people out for, but it's not always something that is really happening.
They're just doing it because I don't know it just she she frustrates me.
I think the only season that I really liked her was the season that
she really stood up for Kara, where her assholeness like it was there for
a reason. Yea, and on your side of her, Yeah, she
had side of her that season, and I haven't seen that in a lot
of other seasons. She fucking destroyed Paula and then Paula started crying. Yeah
for everybody who's being super mean, Tokara, Lara had a fucking like two
uh leaders of Cokeport on the top of Yeah, well, l she needed
to. I think that was an appropriate one. I mean, yeah,
she needed to. She probably could have spread that around a little bit,
but yeah, Laurel, Laurel was just like, oh fucking really, and
it just fucking destroyed Paula and everybody's like, oh my god, so mean
that's inappropriate. Yeah, yeah, that one was. That one was definitely
more deserved, but like the big easy one that was not that was not
okay in so many ways, not okay. Yeah, that one, I
she did it. I saw a clip of Laurel go on Zach's podcast.
He put up a thing which I can't I really don't like him, so
I have trouble watching them where she was talking about that elimination and apparently I'm
sure it's been talked about on the pod at some point in time, but
apparently like she put her last thing in there. TJ buzz the horn.
He went and counted everything. Production went and counted everything, and it wasn't
until Natalie. Natalie pointed out, wait, no, there's a hole down
here, not the hole up there. Because Laurel had gotten completely undone from
her stuff she was she was like, yeah, we're done, we're over.
Everything's been called. And then when Natalie pointed it out, like no,
but this is the actual hole, that's when production and TJ were like,
oh, we fucked up. Yeah that's true. Yeah, still Laura's
fault. You don't shove that thing where there's no fucking hole and say it's
right, come on, come on. It was just I it was some
serious seadenfreud to watch her do the like the suck it motions, get all
up andy, and then to see Natalie just fucking monkey it up to the
top of this thing, pull that out, and then go and stick it
back down the bottom. Have the horn get blown. God, I love
that. It's great. Yep. But see even this, even as much
as we're hating Laura, we can pick out these moments where she's done this
stuff and it's no. And that's why I say, I'm excited, but
I'm also dreading. Yeah. Well that and they're also there's a there are
so far a few different clips and promo videos and whatnot of like it looks
like she's making out with Nicole at one point in time, Bara's Colin Colin
Laurel out for like this is gonna backfire in your face and you're gonna be
fucking miserable again, Like do you not remember what this did to you the
last time? Like, and then you had Laurel just shut in her face
in her Laurel voice. Yeah, it's gonna be great, can't wait.
God, the drama, the season's gonna be fucking awesome. Seven Child is
one win. You know that? That record kind of surprises me same because
she is, she's such a good game player. She just gets in her
own fucking way when it comes to the politics side of it, and yeah,
somehow just gets voted out. It doesn't win. It's it surprises me
a little bit. Yeah, next up controversial a rum roll Leroy. I'm
not saying anything. Happy to see him back, all right, Tim.
Tim is unhappy that Leroy has come out of retirement. Tim believes, you
go ahead, Tim. Tim believes if they say they're retired, they should
be banned from the show for life. So I mean, I I'm excited
to see Leroy, I really am. I understand why Tim is not super
thrilled because Leroy made a big that entire last season he was on. From
day one, he was talking to Cam about how this is the last season
he's going to be on. To be fair, it was the last season
of the main show, ye, which he's on next season. I know
we can talk about it. Then I'm not gonna talk about it ever again.
Well, I was gonna be wrong honest with you. You guys can
defend her or not my positions. I'm just gonna sit here, go backstory
for any new listeners. Tim was not very happy when we jumped down his
throat last season because people people came back. No, it was you've been
jumping down my throat about everything that I just don't. I'm just I'm off
the I'm off the game of this. I'm just not gonna do it anymore.
Yes, yes, anywhere we jumped out his throat about everything. Uh,
Leroy twelve season twelve challenges, zero wins. Do we think he's gonna
win this one? No? I don't think he'll ever win next one.
I don't think he's gonna win. I don't think he. I don't think
it's in his I don't think he's like, yeah, I think I really
do think. Like he's made several finals, he obviously doesn't have like sort
of the physicality to do it, and he's not enough of a dick to
like, yeah, like make the season to be one that he can win.
You know what I mean, you'd have to. He'd have to stab
some people in the back and do some bad shop. And he's never he's
never been able to do that. He's always played on seasons with friends,
and he's never been able to pull that trigger. Yep, he's honestly,
he's never been able to pull a Sarah Rice and say, Johnny Bananas,
you need to go into the last elimination. You need to fight your way
into this final. Yep, let's let's bound mouth Johnny Well. Zach has
himself muted because his boss showed up, so he can't respond to anything.
But Carlon, you're totally right. That is part of like why Bananas wins,
because he does he will. Bana's is willing and able to stab his
friends in the back, and yeah, Leroy, you're right, never will
and that's why wins and Leroy. I don't think he's gonna The flip side
is when people stab Johnny in the back. It's the biggest affront that has
ever happened in Challenge history. All's fair in love, war and Challenges until
it happens to me. Yeah, you know, if I keep getting thrown
in, I'm not gonna make it to the final. Yeah, Johnny,
that's the fucking point, your dumb ass. No, he got the Nelson
Award for that one, but yeah, that's the fucking obvious point. That's
how you win this game, you jackass. Yep, I am looking forward
to seeing Leroy just because I like I like LeRoi. He's LeRoi is most
definitely a fan favorite. He has been a fan favorite for because he's just
such a good fucking guy. Yeah, I love Leroy. I Wolf,
He's right. I don't like it when people say they retire and they come
back. Wes has done it two or three times either. Why. It
drives me nuts too, because it feels like he did it for a storyline.
It feels like he did it to get extra screen time or something,
because it's not authentic at all. He was only off for two seasons has
more. Yeah, it's I mean, in all honesty, like, the
only thing that I can think of is the he got offered money, and
this show is easy money. You come, you get your appearance fee.
If you last long enough, you get an even bigger appearance fee. If
you last to the end and you win, then you've got this massive paycheck.
They yep, I have who do it every year. Just don't say
you're gonna stop them. It's annoying. Yeah, don't. Don't make it
a storyline for an entire season that this is your last season and then bring
it out to the entire cast and say this is your last season and have
the whole world think that this is your last season and then two seasons later,
shut back up. Yeah, no, I agree with you, I
do. I'm just I'm looking forward to seeing them. Though I love Lera.
Yeah, I'm not meaning to say it like Leroy. I love Leroy,
but no, he that man, that man is never gonna win.
I don't. It's never gonna And that's one of those things like my my
I will, I don't remember what I bet on it last When I say
that Josh is never gonna win, like, no, Josh is never going
to win, but that's for an entirely different reasons. Like Leroy is just
Leroy is a likable guy and he's never gonna win. No, Josh is
unlikable and he's never Yeah, yeah, neither of those guys will win.
Yeah. Next up peanut Butter and the Cole. She's gonna bring a big
giant of peanut butter this time, I hope. So. I love Nicole.
I'm excited to see your back. I know she's a trash person,
like she's not respectable or I like for her to try, and I look
forward to try and to listen to her speaking like she's got a full of
marbles. It's gonna be yeap, Laurel, Laurel, between Laurel and Maria
Maria, Oh, it's gonna be great. I'm looking forward to it.
It's gonna be fun because they've all got a few more years on him.
Car has been in the same relationship for five or six years now, Laurel
has not. Laurel's been. I mean, I'm assuming that they're all trying
to better themselves, but I don't think any of them have. What did
what did? What? What did she say to Car? Maria. She
said, like, I like Laurel, but I like you better or something.
I don't even think she said it to Car. I think she actually
said it in a confessional. I like Laurel, but I like Kara better.
Car better on her on her elimination confessional. I think that's what it
was. I'm to see because God, the drama there is gonna be fucking
first class. It's gonna be fantastic. Uh three he challenges for Nicole so
far, Next up Rachel. So excited for Rachel's back. Yeah, super
o G finally coming back. SUPERG. Best body in the history of the
challenge. Oh man, that woman going up against best body in the history
of the town. I think she I think I think Rachel, Kara,
and Emily Schrum, if you of them up next to each other, it'd
be real difficult to pick the best, which I think. Emily Schrum is
actually going to be on next season, which is major blast from the past,
like she has been on in years, and she kicked ass when she
used to be on it, like the two or three seasons she was on.
I think she won both of them. She's great, She's very so
that'll be fun. I'm looking forward to seeing Rachel. It'll be it'll be
interesting to see her Laurel and Carra really battle it out for the top.
Yeah, and it's been for ever since we've seen Rachel forever cutthroat might have.
I feel like we saw her more recently than that. She did one
of those like universal things. I think one of those universal challenges things Emily
No, Rachel Rachel. I feel like she's been on the regular challenge like
within the last few years. Maybe I'm just misremembering she didn't. I feel
like we've Yeah, I feel like we've seen her, Yeah, because that's
what it is. She did exes with Mark. No, not with Mark.
She was with Anisa, Yeah, and Mark with the same season with
Mark. Yeah, yeah, Mark was on it with Robin. It was
the one where they had to one of the challenges, I think the very
first challenge of the season. They had to go and jump in those bathtubs
full of honey. Yes, it was the season that that Johnny Bananas and
Camilla won. Okay, Yeah, it was Johnny Bana's and Camilla CT and
DM and yeah. I think, well whatever exit it was one of the
excess shows. And then I think it was Emily Strom and thy thank you
tie with the three that went into the finale. Yeah, and Emily was
on one of the Champs versus Stars Splash pro. Rachel is the one that
dropped the what was that that quote that she dropped? The inner circle is
ugly and I don't want to be a part of it anymore or something like
that. Very famous line for Rachel, remember seven Challenges to Win. I
do like the promo, the promo video that MTV put out that I stole
to make our promo video as well. She has a really good line of
you know, some people are made to be Challengers, and I'm one of
them. Okay, I like I like that. I like that a lot.
I'm excited to see her. She's great me too. Ryan's back.
We saw we saw him on one of the other I think he was on
the season two of All Stars. He's fine. Yeah, another fluff character
like he'll be fun to watch, but another fluff, not a serious competitor.
No six challenges. Yeah, same for Steve. Why Steve back?
I gotta like him? Just go do your hand, just go go by,
go away. He doesn't bring anything right. He's just so boring,
dull guy. I don't know. Was it. The only thing that he
brought to the last season of All Stars that he was on was that he
and uh, oh my god, not Tina. I'm uh one of the
other women. I just lost her ranks to your face, Katie. He
and Katie were, uh were allied, and then he fucked over Katie because
he ended up putting it putting her into an elimination against Beth or something.
Yeah, you know you're gonna have to go in? Are you fucking kidding
me? I told you to pick someone. I told you to use your
brain, not pick someone that I couldn't beat. Uh uh, Next up,
Cyrus? Say that man? I like Cyrus. He's been liking some
of our posts on Adam Larson liked one as we've been podcasting. Do you
guys get that notification? Nks. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing Si.
He's he's real fun to watch. He's pretty. Is he a Zaddi?
Yeah, he's a saddy Ye. Yeah. He's got a new baby.
I mean I think she's like six months old now. But he's gotten
married and had a baby in the last like year and a half. He's
in his fifties right, He's got a yeah, close fucking black done crack.
That man is hot. He is, He's all right. I'm not
I'm not arguing you did not hear one. I'm just saying, did not
challenge your response. Seven Challenges one win. Uh, Tina. Tina's back
again? Why the fuck is she here? She's seen her a lot.
She's there for the Drama ship, but she has no intention of winning this
thing. You're even trying all that hard, but she's taking up a space
from somebody else. Yeah. And I mentioned this earlier. I don't remember
if it was in the pre sure in the actual show. Earlier on.
She was in season two of All Stars and she left. She didn't compete
in the elimination against Melinda that she was in. She just stood there as
Melinda ran back and forth, turn on lights Yeah, because she didn't like
them. Yeah, acted like she was too good for it, but she
didn't want to do it because she didn't like the way that the Challenge House,
the person that the Challenge House turned her into. And then fucking six
months later showed back up on All Stars three. Why the fuck are you
here? If you quit in an elimination, you should never be allowed back
that is some absolute bullshit. I don't want to see you here. I'm
not looking forward to seeing her. It's gonna be really annoying. Agree,
I'm excited to see her just for the fact I'm excited to see all three
of the mean girls back together. That's exactly I see your point, Zach.
But Tina is a one hit wonder type of character in that capacity,
Like I feel like we've seen it all before, like everything she does.
It was nice to see her back because it's like we see it. I
haven't seen it for a while, but now it's like she does the same
shit. She's just sort of as a mean girl. She doesn't try that
hard. She pretends like she's better than everybody. It's like, I'm bored.
I don't I'm not interested in that anymore. Yeah, imagine if like
her, Veronican, like Rachel try to run the house like the old days
and just people laugh in their face. It'd be great to watch. We'll
see. I hope that we get something entertaining, because that's I'm sick of
the mean girls. It just seems very Yeah, I don't think that she's
gonna be able to pull off the quote unquote mean girl thing. It just
she really it's it's the fact that she quit in an elimination. Yeah,
I mean she if she had pushed, she could have potentially beat Melinda.
There was some some serious potential there. It just it annoys the ever living
shit out of me that she quit in the finale or quit in the elimination.
I'm with you, I agree with you. Seven challenges, Uh,
maybe one of the most anticipated returns since Carl Maria for Tim. Yes,
Tony, Tony Ray, let's get it, Tony, let's get it.
Telling he's a contender. Look at him compared to the other dudes. He's
in shape, he's ready, He's he's had a rough time on the show.
He has not made good choices. He stepped away from the challenge to
fix his life. Seems like maybe he's in a good place. So hopefully
his return will yield some results, just as to him predicted. So love
Tony. YEA Uh, six challenges seems like a lot like I don't remember
him being in that many. But you know what I'm curious to see is
I don't know if this was like a joke or not, but when I
met him, a challenge mania, he said, part of his agreement to
come back is that any final he's like, any season he's in that has
a final, has to have a needing challenge in the final. Contract all
right, I'm rooting for I'm rooting for Tony in the final. Then I
like that because I think, like Toria, is that that the eating challenges
have to be vegan. Now if she's involved in an eating challenge, that
has to be vegan. So, yeah, they some of them have weird
things, which is interesting because the last season of All Stars, Nim Maya,
Me and Maya was in keeps saying niam A Maya is not his name.
Me and Maya was in it, and Nea Mayah is also vegan and
it was not a vegan eating challenge. Yeah, I wonder if you had
this specific, like if that was not a contract writer or something. You
know, I don't know how it all works, but either uh. Also,
who doesn't know how stuff works? Is Tyree? Why is that man
back for the redemption too? He gets a redemption arc? Like Jay,
I'm rooting for Tyree. Get your first elimination. You can do. It's
come back to redemption arc multiple times. He's not gonna get was he just
on one of the All Stars whenever He's got whatever it takes the redeem Stars.
Now, I thought he was on one of the All Stars. We
haven't seen him for a while. Maybe I'm just maybe I'm just thinking of
the promo for this season. Probably because him and him and Jazz and had
a thing, yeah back in the day. Yeah, okay, so maybe
that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, that was one of the regular seasons.
Well, I know that they had a thing, But for some reason,
I thought he came back on the show and they sort of revisited the
fact they used to have a thing and tried to make it a drama or
something like that. I mean, they revisited it when they were on Excess
together. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I don't know, it doesn't
matter. Tyree's back six challenges, He's him and Dan Danny are tied for
zero wins six eliminations. It's the worst elimination record of any challenger. He
and Tyree, He and Danny, if you remember yea. So I want
him to win an elimination. I want him to leave Danny alone in that
worst category. We need get him and Danny on the season together. To
go head to head. Oh that's right, one of them would have to
break the streak then. Uh. And last, but not least, Veronica
V. I don't care. Thirteen challenges, three wins. She has the
most wins of anybody on this list. I the back when the games were
like fry on a beach, like a piece of an ake bacon. So
yeah, I just feel the same about her as Tina. It's like she's
not gonna win. She knows she's not gonna win. I don't think she's
gonna try that hard. And to me, it's just like, let somebody
else in the house is gonna try. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
And I don't hold the fact that she won the old seasons against her
because if we're using that as a measuring stick, most of Darrell's original wins
came on those type of seasons. Yeah. Yeah, but Darrell is dead
to Tim and Carlin. So why Darrell know we're saying he was gonna retire
because he's ruined his legacy. That's a Carlin thing. That's a car that's
a thing. I agree with that as well. Carlin. Yeah, he
used to be like special. Now he was just another guy. He's still
special. Hm. That's all the cast members for the season. It's gonna
be a fun season. It will be. It should be. We've got
a good combination of heavy hitter like actually a lot of really good physical players,
some fluff, so it'll be an inter be introduced. See it all
shakes up. Yeah, we do have another thing going on. Do you
Carlen and Zach want to take the show over at this point to explain what
we're doing? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, Do you want to kind of
do you want to start with the public one? Uh? Yeah, let's
let's start with the public one. Well, the chat room is on pins
and needles, so we we are as a as a podcast. We've been
trying to brainstorm things that we can do to kind of live it up the
next few seasons see how things go. So all starts for is kind of
our our trial run for our Instagram account. And also, uh, we're
gonna do a fantasy league this season. We're actually we're actually gonna do two
fantasy leagues this season. We're gonna do one that is specific to just the
four of us hosts. We are going to pick We're gonna draft in just
a few minutes, we're gonna draft our six players each there will be one
player that will be out of that draft, and then the other one is
going to be a public league and that is open to anyone who wants to
join. You can get to it through the link tree. There's a link
on that that will send you to the real Fantasy TV Fantasy team and you
just sign your way in and that one will be every week you have to
you have to draft three players. You can only use each player three times
throughout the season. So if you draft Leroy in the first week of the
of the season three times, which you can do, you cannot draft him
ever again for the season. There are a bunch of different point rankings.
When you go on to the on the website, they show you all the
different points that you can get. So, yeah, you could get real
strategic with it, or you get real ridiculous with it. Pick them because
you like their haircut that day. Who knows, so they would sign up
for that. By going to challenge pod dot com, which is our link
tree, there's a link to the to the public fantas League. Yeah,
you can do it through there. You can you can go to the challenge
Pod Instagram account, which is challenged d with a d pod on Instagram and
click the link the link tree in there. There's a link in there,
and then yeah, sign into Real TV Fantasy and pick a team every week.
You do have to pick it every single week. If you miss a
week, then you won't get the points that week. What day of the
week do they choose their players? Oh, that's actually good choice, A
good idea. Monday. I don't actually know episodes drop on Wednesday. Yeah,
I think I assume you can. I'll have to look into that.
I definitely look into it, I believe from past experience, like once the
like let's say, once the first episode ends, as soon as that ends,
like shortly afterwards, you can that like the next day, you can
set your your episode two lineup and you have like all the way up until
the episode two drops and then it lost. Okay, okay, So for
those for those in the chat room, you can click on the link that
I posted and get right to it right now. Yeah, So to be
safe, I would say, if you're going to join the fantasy league,
pick your team before midnight on Tuesday, because the episodes are coming out on
Paramount Plus this season. And I think they're dropping them first thing in the
morning on Wednesdays, So pick your pick your team as soon as you can
on on Tuesday. And there is also there's also a phone app so you
can put your you can log into it and have it on there. Nice.
What does the winner of the overall winner of the season get, Yeah,
this one's special. So if you win the entire season in the Public
League, you win a guest host you get to come and guest host with
us for an episode, probably, which is how Carlin became a permanent out.
I was gonna say, be careful what you wish for, guys,
because half of these hosts start off as temporary hosts, and we just held
on that that's true, that is true. That then halfway through a season,
like Jesus Christ, I need a break. You've been doing this for
seven years. Hey, I thoroughly enjoy this. I don't know what you
talked about needed a break. I have had a lot of fun. But
no. So if you if you win the season, you get to guest
hosts with us for an episode. We haven't quite picked what episode that will
be, whether it'll be the first episode of the following season, or if
they do a reunion. Doing that, we'll see maybe maybe we should do
the first episode of season forty. I think so, and then maybe we
make them predict we're gonna win season forty, and then we bring them back
for the finale to see if their prediction was correct. That requires a lot
of planning. That kid me, good luck, guys. This is not
ambitious. It's not ambitious. It's like, hey, don't forget to invite
so and so back for the finale. That's literally all it takes volunteering to
do it. You have I do half the other ship. Yeah, so
just keep in mind. Keep in mind that you could win co hosting an
episode with us. The other one is going to be a private league.
You know, it will just be the four of us hosts in that one.
But we are going to draft our players. We each get six.
We're drafting our players at the beginning of the season. We have those players
for the entire season. So if someone drafts a bunch of people that all
go out in the first episode, then you're fucked. And we haven't so
the question, we haven't really picked a question for this. It happened for
the winner. I feel like the private the private one is what happened to
the loser of the season. Oh, I have to go over that one.
Yeah, I feel like we might need we might need to we might
need to have the listeners maybe chime in on this one. I can throw
up a poll or a suggestions box on our Instagram account, So you'll have
to go to Challenged with the d Pod on Instagram and I don't know,
submit your your ideas what you think we should do for the loser. Well,
see, now I'm terrify because you know, if I lose, they're
going to make me eat something. Uh huh. Yes, we are straight,
damn straight. The problem is figuring out what's going to happen if one
of the other three of us lose. That's exactly right, is Zach.
It's like, oh, we know what Zaxxon do? What the what about
the rest three of this? Yeah? I think it may be the other
three hosts get to decide what the punishment. That could be fun. Well,
I'm gone. Yeah, So we will check in. We'll check in
on how the leagues are doing every week. We'll check in on specifically on
the private Private one. We'll bring that up in the pod every week.
Can kind of see who's currently going for bragging right, See if someone has
completely shipped the bed, it should be a lot of fun. It should
be fun. Yeah. I've wanted to do one of these for a while.
I've never actually done a fantasy league with this stuff. It's my first
time. Yeah, this is why Zach and Carlin's running it, because I
don't know how any of this ship. I have no idea. Well,
I mean, to be fair, I have only ever done fantasy football and
I have never been the commission of a league. I never had to set
any of the shit up, which I mean Zach is our commissioner. But
yeah, I have never done it for something like this, so this will
be a little bit different. All right, should we do our drafts?
Yeah? We should so. I first off, does everyone here know what
a snake draft is? Yes? No, sort of Okay, So basically
each round it alternates order. So whoever goes like, you know, like
the first time going one tooth three four, second round will go four three
two one. So if you're at four to one each round, you'll get
like back to back picks. Yeah, but then you have to wait until
the other three people have gone through both of their picks before you get to
pick another two people. Yes, if you if you are one or if
you are four? Yeah, yeah the yeah, yeah, I get it.
Yeah do you do you? Tim? I do? So how do
we figure out who is which number? Well? I did I go say,
I went on random dot org at the start of this, and I
do have an order based on random dot org. All right, So picking
at number one is Wolfie, and then and then I will be picking at
number two. Carlin is at number three, and then Tim, you're pulling
up the rear at four. Nice, all right, get in a round.
So, Zach, do we just need to click on the joined draft
or are you doing a thing on your end or how are we doing this?
I was I right now, I just I have I was writing it
down on my end. I don't have the website pulled up. Zaxy's a
pencil, all right, Margo? All right, who's first? Go down?
Wolfy would be first. Sorry, Marco's bothering me. So we pick
we picked just one person, or we pick one man, one woman,
one person, one person and it can be man or man or woman.
Yes, okay, all right, got it, Woofy. I'm looking through
the list. Hold on don't rush me. Um. I mean, I
gotta go Carra. This is her big comeback season. Smart. That's a
smart one. All right. I will go ahead to head with Wolfy.
Then I'm gonna take Laurel. God damn it, you picked my name.
Dum oh man, Oh my god, Carl, you're gonna make this take
off fucking night to say a name. Yeah, I am gonna make it.
You're like the new Amanda. It's like, just say a name.
Who cares? Because I want to win it. I'm a pick leeroy.
Why not? Alright, I'm going Brad. I gotta go Brad. I
thought about Snake and Brad from here and now I can do two. Fuck
you guys, Fuck you guys. I guys got the two best players.
Don't suck it. It's Carlin again. Let's go Rachel, good one.
I will go. We have take Adam Adam Larson all right, yeah,
all right, I'm gonna go kill a Cam. I was gonna go kill
her Cam too bad. All right, I'm gonna go Jay because why then
my turn, my turn? My turn? Is it? Yeah? Wait,
don't go Jack, wait wait because technically technically I get to go again.
And then it's Carlin's turn. Jesus Christ, everybody focus on who is
gonna be there? Uh. I feel like I should put some men on
my team. Do we know are they playing in Paris this season? We
don't know. I don't know. Let's go. Let's go with Cyrus.
Okay, who's up now, Karlon or Zach? I mean Zach, I
will take I'll take Avery, all right, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna
go with Peta Button Nicole. I was gonna, but I thought about going
with her there all right, Rachel's been taking right, yep, yes,
all right. All these other ladies don't look none of these other ladies are
good. Janelle, I guess I'll go Janelle for my lady. You get
two picks, I know second I will go. I'll go uh Brandon,
Okay, I think I'm gonna go Ace. Bad call, but you have
fun with that one. I mean I want some funny on my team.
Yeah. Uh. Did someone picked Jade? I hear someone say that earlier.
I was gonna writing it down, well I am, but then looking
at the list of who's left, I'm like, I guess where someone said
Jay, But I still have them on the board. I will take I'll
take Chavez Dere all right. Uh, I'm gonna go Ryan is my next
pick? All right, karln No, it isn't it Wolfe again? Yeah?
Again? You got mad at me for saying that it wasn't you.
Let's go Janelle, I said, Janelle, She's already been picked. Zach,
will you do a quick who's still left? Yeah? Because this will
make sure I have everyone cracked. So I have Wolf, he has Carra
camp Oh you just want to lose left? Yes? Yeh, j Kefla,
Steve Tyree for the men and then for the women, Ayanna, Flora,
Jasmine, Tina and Veronica. Yeah, it seems about who we'd see
is leftovers. Yeah, all right, Carling, it's you still me.
You know how the snake thing works to him? I just didn't know it
was gonna take you a fucking half hour to name two names. Jesus Christ.
How complicated Tina. I'm gonna go Tina, so Tim will shut the
fuck up. Come on, Zach, at your turn? Go? What's
everybody waiting for? I will take I'll take Steve. He was a nice
name about him. I'm gonna go Veronica. Another bad call. I'll go,
I'll go. I'm gonna go Anna and uh kefla right, kefla kefla
Still in those are my two? All right, let's go Jay. Wow
Wow Wow. Actually think that's a good pick. Could be, could be
since we don't remember anything about Flora, I'll take Flora. Maybe she'll be
good. You have your choice between Jasmine and Tyree. Whoever doesn't get predicted
will be. Let's go te Tyrie. Jasmine is low all by herself.
She is right. Yeah, I honestly I would have called Tyree being by
himself. I will say I I've participated in one other draft for this season,
and in that one, Tyree was the one left out. So but
see, I tried to do half men half women, and so Tyree.
I needed Tyree to complete that ratio. Yeah all right, So then I
think I think some of these guys have something to prove might be good.
Was that Carlin and drafting for the teams? Yeah, when you run through
the teams, Yeah, so Wolf, he has Kara, Cam Cyrus,
Ryan, Tina, and Tyree. I have Laurel, Adam, Avery,
Derek, Steve and Flora. Carlin has Leroy, Rachel, Nicole, Ace,
Veronica and Jay and Tim Has Brad, Tony, Janelle, Brandon,
Ayanna, and Kesla. I don't know, Carl, and you're looking pretty
strong over there. Your crew is pretty good. Hell you said on two
of my picks, Oh that's awful. Compared to reals, your seems pretty
good. Zach seems like garbage. What I'm just saying. I think I've
got the second best team. I don't know your third, Zach, I
think your fourth. We'll see how this shakes. I think Laurel and Adam
are super strong. I think the other ones might slide by for a while
because they could go under the radar. Adam is risky. I don't know
if. I don't know if Adam's gonna be very impressive. We'll see.
I think I feel like he was in his younger days on the Alleys.
Now don't remember Adam. I feel like he was like kind of like I
want to call him CT, but like he was like the strong mail like
early on it was like before Alton. I think he was like the strong
guy. Interesting. All right, welllet's be fun, guys. I'm really
excited about this. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. We should remember
which none of us will to send out a reminder for people to pick their
their public teams. Oh yeah, that's a good idea. I'm gonna throw
something on my calendar right now. And I did see that very Ainsley and
the chat said that in the past it has automatically sent you an email to
remind you, said a new line up each week. Okay, sign up
for our for our draft, right to get those email alerts or whatever.
Probably, yes, I mean guessing I'm not going to send it out to
the whole world. No, I think, yeah, I think when you
sign up. I think when you sign up, you got in your email,
so they'll just send it to whatever you right, cool? All right?
Yeah, why I don't know. Are we are we gonna update Zach
updating on the website or we can we can talk that after we're done with
the show. Oh so sorry, Well no, it's just it's it's just
such a thing. No one wants to listen to us talk about it all
over again. I mean, if you looked at that image I SIMP the
other day, Wolf, and I'm gonna be trying to do a tracker like
that. You send an image the other day I did. Let's do this
offline. Jesus Christ, Hey, everybody, go to challengepod dot com.
Join our Facebook group. You can also our Patriot Tim when they joined the
Patreots. Oh geez, I don't know. Five bucks a month pre shows,
after shows, lots of stuff. I don't have the list of names
up. We'll read the names though eventually. If you contribute what else is
there? Go? Join the instagram. Join the instagram Tim, Tim.
Do we have any reviews? We do? I did get those up just
one though. K El and Kelly says love all four of this crew really
appreciating the addition of Carlin. Uh. Enjoy the commentary and insights, even
when I don't agree. Zach's unwavering Banana's loyalty is adorable and makes me chuckle.
Awesome podcast. We've read that one on the last show. I don't
know, but I'm always glad to hear love from my banana's nest. We
probably did. That was in That was in February, so yes, we
probably read that before. Well, thank you. Anyway, you can know
the compliment. Karlan donet it. It does it feel good the second time?
Well, there you go, you go. I'm still I'm waiting for
that other shoe to drop. I'm waiting for it. We've all had a
lot of yeah, it's a it's fun. Just Linda Lender accepted. H
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