1 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,920 What is up everybody? Saturday morning? That means Hobby Hotline episode three oh 2 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,840 one. Today I am joined by Logan Victor, so I am the third 3 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,359 wheel, just tagging along for the ride. Good morning, guys, what's 4 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:45,399 going on? Morning sir? Saturday morning me. It's a great day. 5 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:49,600 If you're on the East Coast, it's eleven am or shortly thereafter. Because 6 00:00:49,679 --> 00:00:53,479 Logan reminded me to start the show today, which I appreciate. And if 7 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,560 you're on a different time zone, well then you know that and I'm not 8 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,039 going to translate the time for you. We got some mornings. Good morning, 9 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:03,280 happy pretty Saturday. Those who celebrate, see Logan right off the bat, 10 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,799 perfect, you know what? All right, you're gonna have to school 11 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,480 me a little bit, mister. The horses names and the odds for them 12 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,120 to win. Okay, now, the one horse was scratched because it had 13 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,359 a fever, so it says scratched. Is it a micro scratch? That's 14 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:25,439 what I can't say, slab And we'll talk about that later, Okay, 15 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,519 Mad City Brew, Good Morning, Vintage, Good's, good morning, Reuben. 16 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:34,079 It's an all specs crew. Yes, three guys who can't see without 17 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:44,239 glasses. Yes, that is one hundred percent true. And if you notice, 18 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,719 not one of us even even fought that that accusation. I cannot see 19 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,560 that at all without them, Philly Joe, good morning. People always ask 20 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,640 me, you know what about contacts, and this said, they're in all 21 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,560 the time. You know, they're not anywhere in my eyes, and they're 22 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:02,719 special. So what have you, guys, We got a big hobby week. 23 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,239 Logan, you've already kind of nudged me in one direction, so we 24 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:10,159 might as well start there. P s A made a big announcement that they 25 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:15,439 are changing their slabs, the new meteor version, and they are going to 26 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:22,039 be medical grade plastic and victory. This is this is important to know. 27 00:02:22,159 --> 00:02:25,039 Logan mentioned the fact that if you're actually having surgery, you can now use 28 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,960 these to do the surgery because it's medical grade plastic. And there will be 29 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:37,520 no more baggies, which which eliminates the rings and colors, and and uh, 30 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,000 they are supposed to now be more heat, water and UV resistant. 31 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,639 I don't think they've given an exact diving depth or anything like that, but 32 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:53,000 uh, they're supposed to be more resistant. Yeah. Initial thoughts, Well, 33 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,560 I think what I was going to do is once I get my new 34 00:02:54,599 --> 00:03:00,680 slabs in the new k the new cases, I'm gonna go to go do 35 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:05,639 a reveal in the shower and see how they how water resistance they really are. 36 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Uh no that they say this is three years in the making. From 37 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,400 what I understand, the slabs are pretty much they pretty much look the same. 38 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:17,639 And from you know, Danny, you and I talking earlier. You 39 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,599 know, the medical grade plastic, you know, we think that's part of 40 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:24,400 you know, where the twenty percent increase in the weight comes from. The 41 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:28,759 They say that when you pick it up, you can feel it and it 42 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,280 feels you know, it just feels much better as far as you know, 43 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,919 the field goes. So. The thing I like the best though, and 44 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,479 I think a lot of people is the no baggies, getting rid of the 45 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:43,039 baggiest. I had I had heard, and I do not know if this 46 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:46,800 is true or not, but I had heard that they were going to do 47 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:51,599 some kind of uh printing, doing you know, doing the three D printing 48 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,120 and making custom you know holder, you know custom, you know, pieces 49 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:59,000 inside the holder to hold the cards. I like that. I don't know 50 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 if that's true or not, but I've heard that you mean to the size 51 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,639 of the card logan. Yeah, you know, do one for each one. 52 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:06,960 You know, I don't know if that's true or not. It seems 53 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,960 to me like that would be very time consuming. But uh, that's I've 54 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,599 heard that, not like I said, that's just a rumor. I don't 55 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:17,680 know if that's true or not. Your thoughts. I love the comment here 56 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:21,120 that now that it's twenty percent heavier, we'll have to hit the jim harder. 57 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,639 Your your your thoughts on PSA, you know, saying time to mix 58 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:31,160 it up a little bit. Yeah. When I first read the heading of 59 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:35,920 the of the email, I was I was kind of taken back because in 60 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,360 my head, I'm thinking, don't tell me they changed the label and and 61 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:44,879 to Mad City bruise kind of thing here. See, it's it's like one 62 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,079 one some folks that think that's okay. Others I would say, oh no, 63 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:51,279 please don't mess with the label. Uh. And and when I first 64 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:55,800 read that heading, I kind of panicked. But they didn't do much with 65 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,879 the label. I was grateful for that, but I had some questions obviously, 66 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,040 And and you know, on the on the medical great thing the new 67 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:05,439 plastic, heavier, sturdy or all of that, I like it. My 68 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,319 question is is it going to be more clear? Is it going to like 69 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,959 combat the CSG slab in its clarity? Right? So, uh, that's 70 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,079 my first question. My next question means, our price is gonna go up? 71 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:26,199 Who's gonna absorb the cost of this new fancy dancy slab? I I 72 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:30,560 unfortunately have the I think it's gonna be us And and so that's unfortunate. 73 00:05:31,079 --> 00:05:35,920 Uh is c S is uh c GC gonna follow suit? Are they gonna 74 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:41,079 do something similar to kind of uh mix things up a bit? And and 75 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,360 those are kind of my my takeaways on on this and that. And that's 76 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:47,360 kind of where I'm at with a bit. I I like, I like 77 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:53,000 the technology. I think it's it's a good thing, but but at what 78 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,439 cost? At what cost is it going to absorb the collector? Well, 79 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,480 Vor, you touched on on one of the points I've had, which is 80 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,959 actually the reverse, but making the same point. I think PSA made some 81 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,839 of these changes in reaction to what some of the other card companies have done, 82 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,560 what Tag did with their plastic, or CGC with their plastic. You 83 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,240 know, we talk about this being thicker and heavier. Maybe they couldn't go 84 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:18,480 clearer. They couldn't win on clearer, but they could win on thicker and 85 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,839 more protective. And you know, outside of going to the Beckett brick, 86 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,720 you know, this might have been the way for them to try to gain 87 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:36,079 a competitive advantage because it is hard to get plastic any clearer without changing dimensions. 88 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Yeah, I mean after a while, you know, and Logan and 89 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,839 I were talking about this. Outside of not changing the label, the only 90 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,439 thing they couldn't do is change the dimensions of the slab, right, they 91 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,879 be disastrous. Yeah, they still have to be able to stack and do 92 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,519 all the same things that all the other slabs do. They have to match. 93 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,879 That would throw collectors into a tizzy. And I would be one of 94 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,879 them. I would not want a different size slab because because I'm all in 95 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,040 on PSA, I don't have I've got very few you know, anybody else 96 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,879 BGS or CGC or anybody slabs. I've got all ninety nine point nine nine 97 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:14,480 nine percent is PSA. So yeah, that would be a killer. But 98 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:19,439 I'm thinking maybe with this medical grade plastic that maybe it will be clearer that 99 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,360 because they didn't mention that, you know, Ryan Hoag did not mention that 100 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:26,879 when he did his video, and I thought for sure he would say something 101 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,240 about that. So I don't know if that implies that it's the same or 102 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:34,600 they just forgot you know, I don't know, I do I do appreciate. 103 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,720 To me, it seems anyways that they are listening to the consumer right. 104 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:44,279 A lot of these things are things that we have been requesting for quite 105 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:46,600 some time, and it seems like they really took the step on the HR 106 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,199 side of things to really listen to the consumer and give the consumer what they 107 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,519 want. So in that aspect a plus, and I'm going to put it 108 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,360 in the chat right now. I'm just putting best looking slab question mark because 109 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,879 they did not change the look essentially except for the baggy, which which is 110 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,720 significant. I think they tried very hard to keep that PSA look, and 111 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:11,279 so I'm just curious from an aesthetic only point of view, you know, 112 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,839 did they need to do anything else or does everybody like the PSA look already? 113 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:20,759 And they had to do everything they could to not change that. Come 114 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,319 Hecker high Water, you know that they had to leave it the way it 115 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:30,120 was white sox Tom says tag A lot of people, a lot of people 116 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,399 loves the tag slab and they don't pay them, don't pay the prices for 117 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:39,720 for tag, but they like to slab Logan if you weren't a PSA Hall 118 00:08:39,759 --> 00:08:43,840 of Famer and you did not have ninety nine point nine five percent PSA, 119 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:48,360 is there somebody else's slab that you like to look of? And I think 120 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,320 a couple of people may have just hit your answer here. Well, you 121 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,240 know, I know there's a lot of love for SGC right now, but 122 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:58,960 I'm I'm not a fan of the tuxedo, so that I'm going to rule 123 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,240 that one out as far as the way, as far as clarity is concerned, 124 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:09,720 if I'm looking for a clearer type slab, probably CGC would be one 125 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,080 that I might like. But you know, I you know, I'm not 126 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,159 making buddy, I'm not making you switch. Don't worry. No, I 127 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,879 know you're not U you know. But I was born and raised on PSA, 128 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:24,879 so you know, I kind of have followed that path, and like 129 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:28,240 I said, I'm all in on PSA. But you know, you know, 130 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:33,559 I like Beckett slabs too. Beckett slabs are pretty you know, they're 131 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,639 they're pretty stout, they're thick. I mean, I got a card the 132 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,240 other day that I'm going to crack out, and the thickness and everything and 133 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:45,799 how sturdy that thing is is pretty impressive. Yeah, I've always heard they 134 00:09:45,879 --> 00:09:48,559 were some of the hardest to crack just because of that. Yeah, they 135 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:52,799 are. But the one I got and we can maybe show it later if 136 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:56,120 we show any cards or anything, I'll show the card that I picked up. 137 00:09:56,519 --> 00:09:58,600 But yeah, going to crack this thing out is going to be a 138 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,440 bear. You got up with you? Oh yeah, I got it with 139 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,320 me right here, I'll show it. I'll go ahead and show it right 140 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,879 now. And it's not even a racing card, believe it or not. 141 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,720 This is are both caught off car. Yeah, no, everybody's shot. 142 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,559 But yeah, okay, it's not motorized racing. Yeah, it's still racing. 143 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:24,759 It's it's uh, it's human powered racing. It's uh, Lance Armstrong. 144 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:30,279 This is a two thousand and eight History of Nike card. These cards 145 00:10:30,279 --> 00:10:33,919 are really hard to find and I've literally been looking for this car for probably 146 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:41,000 ten years. Wow, and this popped up. But it's a great set. 147 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,159 You know. They's got Michael Jordan in there, it's got Lance Armstrong, 148 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:48,840 it's got Tiger Woods bo Jackson's in there, Mike Schmidt. There's a 149 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:52,480 lot of people in this set, but it's you know, it's a very 150 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,840 tough set. I think that they only made like one hundred and fifty sets 151 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,159 from what we understand, and they just and they were just handed out, 152 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,919 you know, at Nike, so you know, the chances of them getting 153 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:05,799 into collector's hands, you know, are tough because people to take those things 154 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,399 and just throw them in the drawer or whatever and or throw them away. 155 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,480 They don't they just didn't care. So to try to find one of these 156 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,639 is hard. But you can see you can see how thick the slab is 157 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,240 and it overlaps. So yeah, cracking this thing is gonna be be exciting. 158 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,919 That's a concern too with this new PSA holder, meaning it's twenty percent 159 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,799 heavier, is it going to be twenty percent more difficult to crack? And 160 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:35,799 right, we will see, we were all we were all of we're thinking 161 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,080 that Matt City. Bruce says, well, Logans, you you like the 162 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Becket slab, but you're cracking it out. Will you explain when I keep 163 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:46,919 calling you PSA Hall of Famer, will you actually explain what that means? 164 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:52,399 In the registry for people. Well, I'm gonna probably take take some flyers 165 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,080 and crack it right here, pull it apart, take the card out, 166 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,480 put it in like a card saver four, and send it the p s 167 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:05,039 A. The reason I'm doing this is I have a Lance Armstrong set on 168 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:11,080 the PSA registree and this is the only card that I don't have. Now 169 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,919 this will close another another one for you. This will make another complete set. 170 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:20,159 Like said, I've been looking for this card for probably ten years. 171 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,120 Unreal that tough. I'm looking for my p s A Registry pin that that 172 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,720 I can't find it right now. I don't even get a pin. I 173 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,720 think I get an email. We have a Hall of Famer. We have 174 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,879 Vitcher, who's well above Main, closer to Logan. And then I get 175 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:41,159 an email somewhere a month behind. I have one set completed on PSA registry. 176 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,039 It is a five card set or four card set. So I'd like 177 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,159 to brag about that. So I see you Logan, and I raise you. 178 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:52,320 My Greg Maddox playing Day's rookie card sets. Okay, uh, I'll 179 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,080 tell you what I'll uh. He's gonna go on eBay and by the end 180 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:01,080 of the show, he's gonna he's gonna pass me, all right. Uh 181 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:05,679 so those are the PSA slabs. Any other thoughts on the PSA slabs before 182 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:11,159 we move on? I got a I got a notification in the email yesterday 183 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:16,759 that my submission has been shipped. So looking forward to getting them in hand. 184 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,519 Now do we know when they're actually switching to the new slabs or they've 185 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:24,519 already started. I believe they have already started. They said immediately they're going 186 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,000 to be doing it. Well that I'd be very very interested, Victor if 187 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,720 you get them back, if they're the new slabs. Uh, what your 188 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:35,000 what your thoughts are? Okay, especially on the way. Tell me if 189 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,240 we got to hit the gym, you know, before the national the registry 190 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,120 can be a bit addicting. I think we would all second that, and 191 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:50,120 fleet guilty. Maybe also very satisfying as far as very very satisfying in your 192 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:56,399 collecting, right, Yes it is, I mean it's it's definitely my drug 193 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,799 of choice of choice for sure. Yeah, you work so hard and so 194 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,799 long on a set registering when you finally complete it. To me, there's 195 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,519 no better satisfaction in the hobby personally. Logan, how many years were you 196 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,080 chasing that card about ten years? There you go. I mean that's I 197 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:18,440 search for it literally every day. That's how that's how family find amazing this. 198 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,200 This is probably the best idea. Maybe we should start a support crypt 199 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,519 uh. Yeah, without a doubt. We could use one, absolutely. 200 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,440 Yeah, but you know what, of all our choices, these are our 201 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,639 healthier ones. Indeed, there's no there's no way I could go cold turkey. 202 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:43,159 Yeah, Okay, moving on to I want to stick with the p 203 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:48,559 s A slabs sort of. And there is a national retailer that is entering 204 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:54,759 the UH trading card market or the trading card acquisition market for a certain degree, 205 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:00,279 and that's a game stop. They are accepting trade ins UH, and 206 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,159 they're actually buying PSA slabs. Wellgan, I know you all this a little 207 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:09,360 closer than I have. What are the details with those? Well, stand, 208 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:13,679 they are only they're only accepting PSA slabs first, and then from that 209 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:20,240 they're only accepting PSA eight nines and tens. And I think the card value 210 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,320 has to be five hundred dollars or less that they're that they're authorized to purchase. 211 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,840 Apparently they've got some kind of cheat sheet or some kind of formula that 212 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:33,879 they're using to say, okay, I when I bring in my bo Jackson 213 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:37,320 nineteen eighty nine bo Jackson card, that they know what the price is if 214 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,120 it's an eight, nine or ten, and they're gonna pay a certain percentage 215 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:46,159 to you or give you store credit or whatever they're gonna do. And it's 216 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,000 not available nationwide yet. It's gonna only be available in Connecticut, Georgia, 217 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Kentucky, Mississippi, New York, Tennessee, and Texas. So I could 218 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,200 do it here if I wanted to in Tennessee. Now the question is is 219 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:02,759 what what are they paying? Like you said, they haven't put out an 220 00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:07,320 exact spreadsheet or anything like that. My understanding is is this is all going 221 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:11,000 to be PSA provided data and so you know, the store employee will have 222 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,039 no say in the matter. They're going to scan the back of the slab 223 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:18,720 and that will provide them with a price on the screen. And I assume 224 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:25,399 it's PSA data, card ladder data, something from collectible and your collectors, 225 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:29,120 I'm sorry, and that'll tell them what they're paying or trade in value. 226 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,879 That there's not a negotiation. This is not going to be like a card 227 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:36,080 store. But you know. The point was, is there a generation of 228 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:41,720 teenagers young adults that have more access to game stops and junk slabs laying around 229 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:47,960 them might be interested in this than the traditional collector who probably doesn't want fifty 230 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,720 cents on the dollar or thirty cents on the dollar or whatever they're paying. 231 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,600 Ultimately, Victor, what are your thoughts on just a national retailer kind of 232 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:03,079 getting into the hobby at all. Yeah, another another leg for fanatics to 233 00:17:03,119 --> 00:17:07,079 get in there, perhaps long term. I was a little shocked when I 234 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,839 heard about this. I did not even think game stops were even still open. 235 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:18,119 I haven't seen one in quite some time near me. I do remember 236 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,200 taking my son in there in the you know, late nineties, early two 237 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:26,039 thousands to trade games, and they would not offer very much. I mean 238 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,039 we're talking fraction of a cost, but at least he would get something if 239 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:33,480 something was better than nothing, so he would trade his stuff in for store 240 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:37,160 credit. But yeah, I was a little shocked that they were still open. 241 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:44,640 I'm wondering is what's the distribution of these stores nationwide and what options do 242 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,920 collectors have for the you know, for so if they don't have a game 243 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,720 stop near them. Is there going to be a through the mail online business 244 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:57,039 model that that collectors can perhaps utilize, But I don't know if this is 245 00:17:57,079 --> 00:18:02,880 for sports cards or madele TCG. I don't know. My understanding was I 246 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,960 saw Philly Joe's comment is that it's gonna be both that. Right now, 247 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:14,680 they carry tcg's actual packs in their stores and they carry Funkos, not not. 248 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,720 I mean, I'm talking about like one shelf with like a like a 249 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,079 box up and with some packs or something. But they do have that, 250 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,319 and they've had that in the stores for a little while. And Logan correct 251 00:18:25,319 --> 00:18:29,519 me if I'm wrong. But my understanding is this is applying to sports cards 252 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:33,039 very much. Yes, Yeah, they're they're gonna be doing sports cards and 253 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,119 TCG cards. Like I said, they're they're only gonna be They're only gonna 254 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,960 be p s A. You know. The My question is, you know, 255 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,160 what are they gonna be paying? In Denny, I have to agree 256 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,519 with you. I think this is more geared towards the younger type collector flipper, 257 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:55,559 because I don't see anybody like myself going to GameStop and selling cards, 258 00:18:55,839 --> 00:18:57,799 right yeah, or you guys. I don't see you guys going to do 259 00:18:57,839 --> 00:19:02,240 that either. But VI, you mentioned that when your kids were younger, 260 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,039 you would go there to trading games. Yep. Could I see my boys 261 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,319 going there and trading in slabs they don't care about for the new you know 262 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,599 FIFA. Yeah, I mean yeah I could, because you know, it's 263 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,039 not like they're selling it on eBay, you know, directly themselves. You 264 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:22,039 know a lot of these kids, it's just stuff laying around the room. 265 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,519 And the amount of slabs that are out there right now I think are being 266 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:30,319 very underestimated. I think it's truly kind of a junk slab error right now. 267 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:33,480 So I think there's a lot of cards that are going to fit in 268 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,160 that under five hundred dollars PSA eight nine ten range that people will be happy 269 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,119 to get a couple bucks out of. Sure. Sure, I think it's 270 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:47,200 a great business move of four games stuff. Maybe perhaps throwing some bait out 271 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,880 there to see if fanatics can join and you know, give them allocation or 272 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,319 give them a buyout, or give them a partnership. It could be big 273 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:02,079 picture, that could be what's going on now. Another question that I have 274 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,119 too is, okay GameStop buys these slabs, do they resell them in the 275 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,200 store or are they shipped back to the GameStop mothership where they list them on 276 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:15,960 their website. Because I looked at their website last night and they do have 277 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:19,559 some uh p s A slab cards for sale, So I don't know how 278 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:25,240 that how that part is going to work. Now you're getting into the tinfoil 279 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:29,519 hat brigade there, logan if they're already up on the site. Now, 280 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:33,279 I'm curious. Rumor on the hobby streets and it's it's going to the repackers. 281 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:44,680 Oh duh, oh yeah, yeah, I think this is what Victor 282 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:48,920 and I were talking about. GameStop gives you two dollars for a slab votes 283 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,200 out for fifty. Let me tell you something. Try try buying any sports 284 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:57,279 game the day after the next year's announced, their value goes woo. You 285 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,400 know, so, I I guess they're gonna be using the ponnd Stars model. 286 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:08,079 I guess, yeah, really, I mean, that's that's really interesting 287 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,240 if they have on sale now, are you looking at it? Yeah, 288 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,559 it's on their website. Yeah, yeah, it's it's there. I saw 289 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,640 some last night. There there were a lot of Pokemon, but there were 290 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,680 some sports cards in there. As well. Victor, It's a whole new 291 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,000 world, buddy, It sure is. It is. So now, does 292 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,200 does you know, like Beckett come and like counteracts with like Taco Bell, 293 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:37,119 or you know, do we start having you know, grading companies align themselves 294 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,119 with different national retailers. Maybe at Dick's Sporting Goods and Beckett go together. 295 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,559 You never know, it could things like that could happen. I'm only half 296 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,680 kidding. I mean, you know the way fanatics is going, the hobby 297 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:52,559 is moving into regular retail, right, this is true, ten X, 298 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,359 you got to get into the main stream. It's true. I mean, 299 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,279 if you can buy wax right now, it lives. You know, you 300 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:03,799 can buy wax and all sorts of fanatics you know, owned or partnered you 301 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:10,480 know, retailers fanatics. That Dick's actually makes sense, yes, and it 302 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:17,400 actually makes a great point. Rex and interviewed him yesterday. We talked about 303 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,480 for the big chains, how hard it is to actually uh train your employees 304 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:26,599 in the art of arts. When you're hiring hourly employees at a store. 305 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:32,480 It's going to be very interesting to see how much they can take it out 306 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,720 of the hands of the employees completely and make it successful because that's kind of 307 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,640 what they've done with the video games, right, because I think Rex is 308 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,240 Rex is correct here. You cannot trust a store full of employees to negotiate 309 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:51,400 on your behalf scary when you think about it, right, Yeah, I 310 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,519 mean, are you kidding those? You know? That wouldn't work out well? 311 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,599 Put slabs in Cereal boxes to get kids seat breakfast? Hey, I 312 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,359 do that. I've been screen in that for years now. But that's how 313 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,000 I came into the hobby. No a full graded slab. Oh no, 314 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,599 no, I mean I'm talking about breakfast breakfast to the Cereal put cards in 315 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,839 there. It a hobby, that's that's that's a good route. Hey man, 316 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:21,000 post Cereal still good sucks. Trade your wander slabs for a cheesy Grdida 317 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:25,839 crunch. See if you move it too, Taco bell. Yeah, you 318 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,160 got all sorts of different partnership options. So I got a question. So 319 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:36,759 do we see these uh, these younger collectors going to shows trying to find 320 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:40,559 some of these slabs that are very low priced, you know, since you 321 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:42,680 know, since this is the junk slab era that we're living in right now, 322 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,960 and take and then flipping those and going over to game stop and then 323 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,960 getting making money and getting credit or you know, getting a video game they 324 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,680 want. That's an excellent point and they probably will absolutely I think that. 325 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,680 I think you'll see that happen. Yeah, I mean, and and to 326 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:03,680 Retch's point, you know, nationally, can you train thousands of associates just 327 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,279 about fake or faked slabs? You know, I guess the PSA, the 328 00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:12,200 PSA barcode is really going to get tested, because my understanding is that that's 329 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,839 going to be the whole kind kaboodle. Can one of you guys educate me 330 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,119 on when the back of the slab started getting a barcode. I do not 331 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:26,279 know the history of the PSA flip nearly as well, but I know that 332 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,359 it was added at some point as as another security measure and then upgraded again. 333 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,000 I thought towards the Lighthouse second generation slab, I believe it was personally 334 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,279 it may be, you know, because the first generation then, you know, 335 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:45,559 they just had like a hologram that said PSA City, Yeah, Collector's 336 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,480 Universe PSA on the back. It didn't it was pretty generic. Uh, 337 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:53,000 you know, I'm glad they have this. The the barcode and the QR 338 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,680 code, those are both nice to have on there because one time when I 339 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,000 get one in, I get take my iPad and I scan it right in, 340 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,880 and I assume that's what they're gonna have to do at game stop because 341 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,720 to Rex's point, there's no way you can train all these employees or stop 342 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,559 theft and fakes and you know, well everything else. One of the things 343 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Danny is that it does have to have the lighthouse label type slab. So 344 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:22,920 that's another thing they're gonna have to train these people on is to see, 345 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,920 you know, to know okay, this is this is where you start. 346 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,920 You know, anything other than this we were not going to accept. Really 347 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,519 that's interesting taking the older stuff. No, probably our point of of the 348 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:40,119 bar coding. You know, it's probably did not know. That's a good 349 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,519 point logan Rex. As In reality, PSA slab cards make up a small 350 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:48,440 percentage of of all cards sold. There are no official numbers, but raw 351 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:52,799 cards probably out cell graded cards twenty to one or more. I don't doubt 352 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160 that at all, you know, I would agree with that for sure. 353 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,000 It's probably more. Yeah, I just think the logistics of a card store 354 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:03,440 or is different than that of a game stop. Game Stop. I wouldn't 355 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,200 trust with raw cards. From a game Stop management standpoint, I wouldn't trust 356 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,480 the employees unless, yeah, they might give that to their managers, the 357 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,920 responsibility of funneling that, I would think. I don't know, Yeah, 358 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:22,440 go to your lcs, folks, there you go. But you know, 359 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:26,400 maybe maybe final I mean made financial. Maybe game Stop is going to have 360 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,599 a certain day or time when you can bring these in. Because I know 361 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,640 that my one of my lcs is here. They have a trade day on 362 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,799 Wednesday so that they don't really buy or sell anything from you know, individuals, 363 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,720 except on Wednesdays. So if you've got something to come in and you 364 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,319 know, we'll deal with you. I wonder if that's what game Stop is 365 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,680 going to do. It would make sense, you know, because that way, 366 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,119 you know you've got somebody at the store right that can deal with it. 367 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,160 Right. Well, I think that gets back to whether or not they 368 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,039 can automate the They feel like they can automate it like they do with the 369 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,319 video games. If they can get that process down, but then it's you 370 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,880 know, the slab's got to stay in good condition. I'm with Rex. 371 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,000 It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Yep, long term, 372 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:17,279 any other thoughts on game Stop before we move on, goes, Well, 373 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,759 the only thing I was going to say is game Stop positioning themselves for being 374 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:26,880 bought by fanatics. Well, Victim, I thought mentioned something similar that they 375 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,599 might be positioning themselves for a Luki lit from somebody else. I think that's 376 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,680 I think that's what they're doing out there. Yeah, and he and Rex 377 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,599 says, getting back to your comment before logan, that's similar to how do 378 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,559 we do it? I'm the primary buyer of single cards at both our shops. 379 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,359 There you go. Yeah, I've heard that from other stores as well. 380 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,359 Well, it only makes sense what's up Orlando. Game Stop is desperate, 381 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,119 not wrong. Doesn't change the conclusions I think any of us are drawing 382 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:03,640 either. You know, I the whole video world is going away from Cartridges. 383 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,319 Yes, that's going to be a tough retail model. Yeah, they 384 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:12,519 definitely need to diversify, and that this is one attempt to do so. 385 00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:18,839 And bo Bo talking to Rex's point, maybe it's not twenty to one, 386 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,200 maybe it's fourteen three and thirty eight to zero. I love it, though, 387 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,559 I'd love to know how many graded ones you've listed. I've got multiple. 388 00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:37,119 Yeah, but good to see about congratulations again on your project. Everyone 389 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,680 have a good day. Thank you. Nicro fan thirty five go into a 390 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,240 low car show yep listed zero slapped. Well, bo, I'm assuming now 391 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:51,559 you're just going to go to game stop for all your slap sales. It 392 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,119 seems like all the cool kids are doing it, you know. Yeah, 393 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,680 I wonder how many of these good will palettes have just graded cards. In 394 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:02,519 a big palette of graded good will card would be Well, Logan's already onto 395 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:08,559 this arbitrage opportunity. He's going through. He's going through. Uh the card 396 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,759 hobbyists give a shout out to brother. Okay, So those those were two 397 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,839 of the stories I wanted to get started with because p s A slabs and 398 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:26,160 p s A slabs and PSA slabs. Guess what PSA slabs? Uh true 399 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,960 warn true game warn cards. I got to write that time. Uh Corbyn, 400 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,799 Carrol, Bobby wit Jr. They looked around around with cardboard in their 401 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:40,279 pants. Uh Logan, you uh were giving me some information on this or 402 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,279 how many cards they had? Uh? Yeah? Sure? First of all, 403 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,400 I wonder if they had cardboarding in their pants, if they were happy 404 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,680 to see everybody. But anyway, yeah, Bobby we had. It was 405 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Bobby Witt and Corbyn Carroll. P s A actually went out and gave them 406 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:02,839 the card. So this was initiate by PSA. They went to the players 407 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:06,920 at the games. This was opening day. From what I understand, Bobby 408 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Witt had seven cards and corpor and Carroll had six with him. So PSA 409 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,480 took all those cards once they were done. Of course, they didn't grade 410 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,000 very well. I mean you have to expect that, you know, he 411 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:25,000 had like PSA one's twos threes. But they took one card from each player 412 00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,880 and they gave the rest back to the players to give to whoever they want. 413 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,160 But the players they numbered the cards like if like, since Bobby Witt 414 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,440 had seven cards, he would label his one of seven, two of seven, 415 00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:38,079 three of seven, and so on and so forth. Right, PSA 416 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:44,759 took cards number two from each one, two seven and two of six from 417 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:49,640 each one, and they're going to actually give those away to anybody that submits 418 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:56,359 a value plus submission or higher. So the value plus is a twenty day 419 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,599 submission, a turnaround, and I think it's thirty nine to ninety nine per 420 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,480 card. So if you do that, you're automatically entered into this drawing to 421 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,279 win one of these two cards. So I think it's really cool what they've 422 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:11,119 done. I know, Victor, we talked about it and we said, 423 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,839 you know, it's it's kind of gimmicky, but I'll like it, you 424 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:21,559 know. Yeah, that was kind of the kickback they got under marketing for 425 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,759 this. It seemed to trigger a lot of people as far as being over 426 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,880 the top on gimmicky. I do like the concept. It's to me, 427 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,480 you know, when we look at vintage cards or cards from the eighties, 428 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,880 what do we as collectors do to kind of spice it up a little bit? 429 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,079 Well, I like to go to the Chicago Sports Spectacular with my nineteen 430 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,599 eighty nine Gary Sheffield right and have him sign it with a with a inscription, 431 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:53,920 and it just takes a good card of a good player, but kind 432 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,960 of notches it up a little bit. And so I love the concept of 433 00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:02,839 rookie cards being inscribed and signed and all of that. This is really a 434 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,119 cool concept and it shows fanatics, in my opinion, that hey, you're 435 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:13,079 not the only one that can sign athletes. We two can sign athletes. 436 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,839 We two can come up and be creative. So it creates this creativity and 437 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,079 this competition, which, if I'm not mistaken, that's what the hobby has 438 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:27,680 been crying for for decades now, is the competitiveness, the creativity, and 439 00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:32,200 here is we have it and a lot of us are shooting it down, 440 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,759 and I think we need to take a step back and look at the big 441 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:43,079 picture and that concept. And it's also what it's not some kind of gimmick 442 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,200 that they're trying to scam people out of thousands of dollars like we do at 443 00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:50,960 some of the tops now stuff now, this is a giveaway. Yeah, 444 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:59,359 not Raccoon was on my PC wantless, right, but it is. It's 445 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:04,400 a giveaway, folks. It's done for marketing for the business. And if 446 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,799 we had social media back in the nineties and all of that, I'm sure 447 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:13,039 we would have been seeing that all of this stuff advertised to us on social 448 00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:15,599 media, but we didn't have that back then. And today that is the 449 00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:22,480 median for getting the word out there. It's to social media, and it's 450 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,000 a giveaway, it's harmless, and it's a genius concept in my opinion. 451 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,920 Rex says, fundamentally, I'm not a fan of damaging cards for any purpose. 452 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:35,200 You know, it's funny I've gone back and forth on this concept of 453 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,319 whether or not they should have protected the cards somehow or put them in a 454 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,599 top loader or something. You know what, I'm not sure I would have 455 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,599 believed it or would have had the same authenticity feel if they weren't beat up 456 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:50,319 pretty good. You know, I expect a Major League Baseball player to move 457 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:52,880 around a lot more than I do, so you know, when we're out 458 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,880 there playing a game, if they got a car, I mean, I 459 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,160 wouldn't put a wrong card in my pants, you know, and expected to 460 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:06,119 come out a ten. So you know, I just I that doesn't bother 461 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,920 me as much for these cards. Fundamentally, I don't like damaging cards, 462 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,920 right, but these cards? Is it adds to the provenance? It sure 463 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,559 does. It gives a whole new meaning to a PSA one, It sure 464 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:22,159 does. Yeah, yep. So the question is are we going to see 465 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,679 more of this with other players? Are we going to see more of this 466 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,199 with other sports? I can see NASCAR drivers tucking some down in their fire 467 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,239 suit. Then they gotta go pee. You know what are you gonna get 468 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,519 there? Oh? Boy? The card obvious says, I poke fun at 469 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:39,719 it, but I like the idea I can see it applied to football with 470 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,679 cards in the helmet or shoulder pads. Sure, yeah, somewhere out of 471 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,840 the way, but those are not going to stay at ten And I forget 472 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,960 where I heard this from, but imagine if they did that to somebody for 473 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,360 the Super Bowl or Game seven of the World Series. Oh yeah, we 474 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,800 were able to have some of that stuff that kind of creativity impacts that would 475 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,800 be amazing. The only thing is, I think it's they got to I 476 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,760 don't know on the legalities of them actually PSA actually selling stuff like this. 477 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,199 I think it's that might that might be a legal problem. I don't know, 478 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,519 but it wouldn't be a problem if if a collector did that, So 479 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:20,079 I don't I don't know why it would be an issue if p s A 480 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239 did this and sold them, right, I don't know the legalities of that, 481 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,400 but yeah, I imagine that in a in a big game, that 482 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,360 that would be a pretty cool card. I mean, I think in general, 483 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,800 the hobbies moving towards connecting to on the field, right, whether it's 484 00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:40,840 game warn game used autographs, we're finding more of a connection with the actual 485 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,480 players. The card shows, the fanatics fest are all more experiential and a 486 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,079 lot of the giveaways now or you know, players following you back, getting 487 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,119 involvements and stuff with players. So to me, this is just kind of 488 00:35:54,599 --> 00:36:00,239 an extension of some of that. You know that we're just finding another way 489 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,559 to connect in the hobby with the players directly. But to me, this 490 00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:07,880 is also version one. I mean, just exactly to Victor's point of all 491 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,400 of all the tentacles and all the different ways they could go with this. 492 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,760 To me, this this, this feels like a good way to try it 493 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,480 out. They didn't really announce it in advance. They they I think, 494 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:21,719 saw if there was any backlash or if the leagues had any kinks to work 495 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,679 out or anything like that. And you know, I I think I think 496 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:30,239 it's interesting. Obviously, the chat room doesn't completely agree with ever anything I 497 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:37,360 say, but specifically on this one, I'm comments that I can put up 498 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,920 here. Sorry, go ahead, And I said, I'm on, I'm 499 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,159 on, I'm on record for liking this. I like it, and I 500 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,119 you know, I don't submit at the value plus you know range, but 501 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,199 I will probably submit one card at value plus just so I'm entered. Because 502 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:57,480 if you if you don't enter, you can't win, so who knows. 503 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,440 I mean, all it takes is one so maybe I could win. I 504 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,760 don't know, We'll see. I mean it would be so cool, it 505 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,079 really would be. And we were saying before it's the first game worn cards 506 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:12,599 in history slabs or that we know of, right, you know, I'm 507 00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,000 sure there's a story somewhere, and if somebody knows that, I always like 508 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:19,039 to learn and put it in the chat room. But this is the first 509 00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:22,440 time I've ever heard of a card actually going on to a field purposely with 510 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,440 a player. Yeah. I mean, the closest thing I can remember is 511 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,920 when David Wells bought Bay Bruce hat and wore and wore it and then they 512 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,519 made him take it off, and but that was that was different. They 513 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:42,199 find out, Uh, Chad, I don't want to right turn this whole 514 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,000 show, But the short answer is no, Chicago is the spot, man, 515 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,000 Chicago is the bomb, no doubt. Man. Yeah, So I'll 516 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:57,639 be hope your morning. There his VIP ticket, it's his first national Chad. 517 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,320 It'll be wonderful to ter what Yep, it'll be wonderful whatever. What? 518 00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:08,719 Yeah, thank you, Michael. All right, So definitely wanted to 519 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,960 to just talk about that a little bit because I think it's a cool concept. 520 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,599 And I and free which one of you just said, the competition for 521 00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:22,119 creativity. I love that idea that that with the card designs and and and 522 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,920 the marketing, it's gotta it's gotta be I think the biggest thing in the 523 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,119 next twelve to twenty four months for fanatics, for Panini, for Leaf. 524 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,679 I mean, it's not just signing athletes. Eventually everybody's gonna sign, you 525 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:39,519 know, more or less, everybody's gonna have a contract, and you're gonna 526 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:45,599 be judged on the cards. Yep, and and and so that's something to 527 00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,760 be said. This is the breaks of imagine said player scores a touchdown, 528 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,519 pulls the car down the end zone and signs it nice. That's pretty cool. 529 00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,920 That's the Chatto Cho Cinco version. Have you guys seen the cards that 530 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,480 they're that PSA is given away. They're not only there are they autographed, 531 00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:08,360 but they're also inscribed, you know, with you know, either statistics or 532 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,519 something. Yeah, so it's more than it's more than just an autograph. 533 00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:17,119 So it's even more personalized than just like getting a card autographed. Uh. 534 00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:21,760 And they're both ps A threes that they're given away. So wow, ps 535 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,960 A three s well, which means they don't qualify for a game stuff. 536 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:31,760 That's right. Yes, Now I'm wondering how, you know, because this 537 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:37,559 ends. I think June thirtieth is the last day you know, for I 538 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:43,440 guess submitting or whatever with the value plus. I wonder how they're gonna announce 539 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,039 this. Are they just gonna just blindly put it in your submission or are 540 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:52,239 they gonna I mean, what are they gonna do? I mean, shocking 541 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,599 your submission and getting that back in return? That would be awesome. You 542 00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:58,280 just like there it is in front of you. I mean, I hope 543 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960 they put a note saying you're supposed to have I'm sure otherwise, otherwise I'd 544 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,599 be trying to number. You know, I got a Bobby Wick card here? 545 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:09,599 Did he lose one? Yeah? Somebody somebody who don't anything about it? 546 00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:14,960 But what is this? Right? Exactly? Here we go thousands of 547 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:20,079 autographs of every player, so they are unique, especially for player collectors. 548 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,360 That's an interesting concept. It's a type of autograph autograph collectors have never been 549 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,800 able to get before is on a player worn you know card, that's true. 550 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,360 I mean they've held they've held it in their hands, they they've used 551 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:37,119 it, they played with it literally and uh, then they've autographed it, 552 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:38,960 and then they give it away. Rett says the main reason he thinks it's 553 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,519 hoky is that the cards are not designed to be worn has jersey, socks, 554 00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,519 et cetera. That makes sense to me. These do not understand your 555 00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:51,360 point. To me, this goes along with photographs and other things. You 556 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,119 know, they don't necessarily have to be worn to be part of the moment. 557 00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:59,639 You know, a type one photograph can be part of a moment, 558 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,440 and I think these cards are part of a moment. I wouldn't be surprised 559 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,119 if they start getting attached to to specific games and moments more on the slab 560 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:15,519 themselves. And just getting back to this point from before, h Logan, 561 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,559 you're understanding what Game Stops was paying their typical pennies on the dollar, right, 562 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,639 you know, I just don't say Game Stop paying a lot of money 563 00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,400 for these cards. I just don't see that. But like I said, 564 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:30,599 it's more geared. I think it's more geared towards the younger collector, the 565 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:35,039 ones who you know still who are playing video games are in that you know 566 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480 who are in that. So I just don't see him paying a lot of 567 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,960 money for these slabs, especially at PSA eight or nine, you know, 568 00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,760 maybe a ten. You know who knows. Well. Let me ask you 569 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,840 guys a question. Companies have done hair samples before, like a strand of 570 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,119 hair. You know, I don't know how to ask this without it sounding 571 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:58,239 weird. Is one cooler weirder? You know? I mean, you know, 572 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,599 people are making funny comments, but that that's something that we've kind of 573 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,000 accepted, is that we'll take, you know, especially deceased person's strand of 574 00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,960 hair put into a card. I think I think it's kind of awkward personally. 575 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,840 That's just my personal conviction for human beings. Yes, I will say 576 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:22,159 this since today is the prateness. I do have a card with a hair 577 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:27,239 from Secretariat. See I do have that. I'm cool for some reason. 578 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000 Now that's kind of cool because it's not from a human being. Yeah, 579 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,559 I'm with Victor having human hair. It's just a little creepy to me. 580 00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:39,440 You know. It's it's like here in Memphis. Uh, the lady who 581 00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:44,519 used to cut Elvis's hair, she kept all that hair, she has it. 582 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,639 Yeah. See, if I know my barber's keeping. I want to 583 00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:57,000 I want to put back in kind all right. And then there was one 584 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,000 other topic I wanted to try to touch on here that I was really really 585 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:04,920 interested, also in the chat room, and this goes back a little while 586 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,239 when it was first rumored and announced eBay buys golden and trade for the eBay 587 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:15,440 vault vault or something like that. Sorry, we got we just set off 588 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,880 the chat room for a second. Let me catch up here. Yeah, 589 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,639 everybody's talking about the hair now. Yeah, I should have known it when 590 00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:28,239 I went there. Hair and other human relative have been collected for ages. 591 00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:32,320 None of that stuff interests me personally. Yep, yep. That would be 592 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,000 a good live stream. Go to GameStop and do a test run on slab 593 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,960 selling. I think you're going to see that coming on the next week or 594 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,119 so with some people who lived near those stores. If you've watched foll different 595 00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:47,400 people on YouTube, you need medical grade plastic for five hair for sure. 596 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:58,920 Yep. Absolutely, fingernail cards coming see doraw the line. Alan Giner has 597 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,159 done hair relics. George Washington, I think, yep, wow, yeah, 598 00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:14,280 they yeah, I have same same facts. Yeah, a strand of 599 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:22,039 hair would help my clumbing side project. Uh and logan your background just getting 600 00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,559 a shout out from that seventies show What's up? John? Nice yellow bowling 601 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:30,239 shirt that's a Believe it or not. That's from when Dale Earnhardt Senior drove 602 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,000 the Wrangler car back in the early eighties. This is one of the crew 603 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,639 uniforms or cruise shirts from that team. Nice. So yeah, yeah, 604 00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:43,159 the hair is and noga for me, you know, maybe the secretariat. 605 00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:49,000 Uh, but wow, I didn't. I got caught off guard. I 606 00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:53,880 should have done better. Well, you guys are fantastic. Yep. So 607 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,760 eBay buys Golden and Trade for its vault. I want to summarize a couple 608 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,519 of things here, And the reason that I want to talk about it is 609 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,519 if somebody now wants to grade a card with eBay, excuse me, great 610 00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,639 a card with PSA and sell it through eBay, they can do it one 611 00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:14,599 flat rate. I mean, that's that's light years from where we came from. 612 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,599 Guys, think about when we started collecting cards, you know, pre 613 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,039 grading, pre Internet, and now you're getting them graded Internet and you're not 614 00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:25,840 even touching the card. If you don't want to, you can send it 615 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,000 in What do you guys. What do you guys feel about the hands off 616 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,199 for transactions. Do you like the simplicity or do you miss having it to 617 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,800 go through your hands at some point? I think the simplicity is great for 618 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,480 people who want that. I'm a touchy feely guy. You know. If 619 00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,039 I buy a card, I want it in my hand. So for me, 620 00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:51,159 it's it's it doesn't matter. But there's a lot of people that are 621 00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:53,719 wanting to flip and do things like that. This is great. It's going 622 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:59,400 to be great for them. Us sports cards. Want some hobby hotline national 623 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,599 relic cards this summer? There you go, Yeah, exactly. Great for 624 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,320 flippers. Yeah, that's what I think. Great for flippers. Yep, 625 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:13,400 it's just the way money is transferred anyway. Who uses cash anymore? I 626 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,239 don't. You know, here's someplace that requires cash and it's interesting, you 627 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,320 know, you get caught off guard. All right, Well, I think 628 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:27,440 Well the idea was we can play guess where the hair came from? So 629 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,039 you guys, ye know, I got three children at home and it's nothing 630 00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:37,039 nothing like this. Yeah, this eBay to Golden Trade. You know, 631 00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:39,960 it doesn't do nothing for me because I don't play in that realm per se. 632 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,440 But I can see this being you know, beneficial for those who play 633 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,360 in that arena, you know, somewhere between the five, ten, fifteen 634 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,599 thousand dollars cards that that kind of thing. What if it's backwards, What 635 00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:58,000 would you buy a rock card on eBay and have it automatically sent a PSA 636 00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,960 and then sent to you to get graded on the way It depends on the 637 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:07,440 price. Now, I usually need need it sent to me because I need 638 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,639 to see it. That's what the pictures and the scans that aren't enough. 639 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,079 I need to put it under my own light, you know. So so 640 00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:16,800 for you, there's no savings because it's going through your hands one way or 641 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:24,440 another. Correct, Correct. It's interesting the new concept of PSA giving you 642 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,920 the option to shoot it straight to eBay. I like that concept. I 643 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,760 even considered it with this last submission that I got headed back. My only 644 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,239 thing is the you know it's they only give you the seven day auction. 645 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,519 I'm not a fan of doing the seven day auction. You know, if 646 00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:45,440 they would allow me to set it up as a by it now, I 647 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:51,719 would have sent most of my submission directly to eBay. But you know they 648 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,000 are fortunately on to a seven day auction. Seven day auction, right, 649 00:47:54,079 --> 00:48:00,599 and sometimes you can get slaughtered and seventy auctions. Yes, Able agrees with 650 00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,719 you, Victor. No to buy raw and need to see the card. 651 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,960 Yeah, and that's that's what I was wondering. We're going to do some 652 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,320 auctions that way for sure. I mean, if it's a new you know, 653 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,039 like a new release, you know you might, but I still I 654 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:20,199 still need to see it. Yeah. No, I definitely on a product 655 00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:24,119 that came out two days ago, you know, you're probably a scan or 656 00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:30,840 a picture on both sides can probably suffice. But nah, Yeah, I 657 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,519 do see the value in it for some people. If I were if I 658 00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:37,760 were buying a lot of card, a single lot of cards, and they're 659 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,880 all the same card, and I know I'm sending them all in anyway, 660 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,760 I don't, you know, I'll just send them in. If if it's 661 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,760 a vintage card that I'm doing for one of my sets, and I don't 662 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,599 care what the grade is, I just want it graded. I feel I 663 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:54,719 feel a little bit more comfortable there. If it's a card I'm picking and 664 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,719 choosing whether or not I want to send in. Yeah, I'm the only 665 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,840 one I've got to touch card. But but there might be something to it, 666 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,920 right, because it's the thing about a lot of this stuff is being 667 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,840 first to market. So if I pull a pack of you know, let's 668 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:13,320 just say the latest wimby the Panini Select, and I pull a pretty rare 669 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,079 parallel, and I want to get that off to PSA as soon as possible, 670 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,039 and I want to get it on the market as soon as possible. 671 00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:24,480 And you know, it might be a good source in that in that kind 672 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,119 of concept. And that's actually one of the scenarios where somebody hitting hitting the 673 00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:34,480 lottery card, right. But you know, for some people, the lottery 674 00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,400 card is a five hundred dollars card, you know, So for some people, 675 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,920 victory your your point is going to be one hundred percent accurate, But 676 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,840 for them it's just at a different scale on the financial right, So you 677 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,320 may have people for a five hundred dollars card that want to grade it as 678 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,760 quick as possible and for sale as quick as possible, and they want to 679 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,280 cash in their five hundred bucks because they just bought a twenty five dollars blaster 680 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,800 box, right right, right, So I think your I think your thought 681 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:04,880 process is dead on there and Rex piggybacks onto that. Speed to market is 682 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,519 one benefit of modern cards. Reduce shipping and handling time is beneficial for all 683 00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:13,400 buyers. Yeah, that's another good one. Also, anybody who's ever bought 684 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,159 or sold online the shipping time, I don't care what you say is annoying. 685 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,199 None of us like it, none of us like doing it, none 686 00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:28,119 of us like sending them out. So what a transaction? What a transaction? 687 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,679 Through this vault protects you from bogus returns when a player value crashes. 688 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:36,440 Well, there's no no returns once the deal is done. Yeah, at 689 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,719 that point I think, I think since you never touched the card and you 690 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,360 bought it as described and it has to go through authentication, I think that 691 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,239 would be a done deal by and now will be an option. P. 692 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,119 S A said a few months away. Well, there we go. Then 693 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,880 then at that point I'll be straight to eb vault. Chad asked a great 694 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,920 question here, do you guys buy raw cards on eBay? Do we buy? 695 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,199 Do you guys buys a lot of raw cards? Would you if it 696 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,920 had a money back guarantee? I do buy some raw and I would definitely 697 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,760 buy more with a money back guarantee to some degree, but to me, 698 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,079 it's about the card. It's not you know, I usually know what I'm 699 00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:17,159 looking for buying real high end stuff for my PCs. I collect U Sport 700 00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:21,800 Athletes. Brian Jordan is not a real expensive card, and not a lot 701 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,920 of fix out there. Yeah, I buy a lot of raw just because 702 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,599 of the vertical that I'm in. You know, I'm a NASCAR guy, 703 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,599 so there's not I mean, there are a lot of NASCAR graded cards out 704 00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:37,599 there, but the ones I want are not graded, so I have to 705 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:38,920 go ahead and get mine graded. So I do buy a lot of raw. 706 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,119 I do too. I buy a lot of raw, and I usually 707 00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:46,239 like to create, like you know, lots with a dealer at a card 708 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,760 show. It's where I buy the most of my broad cards is at card 709 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,920 shows, and I'll put together a little package deal and try to negotiate it 710 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,559 that way, and then from there, you know, I can decide what 711 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:02,519 I want to do with the card, whether p se it, whether listed 712 00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:07,199 on eBay, or if it's good enough or worthy enough, send it to 713 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,960 get graded. What percent do you think you get graded? Victor ten percent? 714 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,760 I would say probably somewhere in there. Yeah, not much, because 715 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,559 yeah, some of it is low end, it's not worth it, but 716 00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:20,719 some of it, you know, once you get it under a light in 717 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,119 a dark room, and you start seeing flaws pretty quick. Yeah. I 718 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,440 always say that people who buy the best also sell the best, usually because 719 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,760 you're looking for the same things both directions. All right, guys, any 720 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:38,199 other thoughts on this? Yeah, logan you're ready to become a Golden Auction 721 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:44,000 Hall of Famer or any about the enemy? Now, how does that work? 722 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,079 I don't think they have a Hall of Famer for auctions yet, so 723 00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,199 it's a one man hall. He made it himself, Yeah he did, 724 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,840 all right. Well, I always got to ask, what are you guys 725 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,559 doing hobby wise this weekend? And I know you already showed us one of 726 00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:07,519 your cards. I don't need new pickups any hobby activity. Uh well, 727 00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,760 you know I've had a few pickups. I mean, uh, you guys 728 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,920 know me. I like to do my sophomoric slabs on eBay. So I've 729 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,079 kind of gotten into this deal where I'm looking for for players with unibrows, 730 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:28,239 like uh like Rick, like Rick like Rick Hampton. Here and I got 731 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,679 another one, and I remember this guy, and I cannot. I'll probably 732 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,880 butcher. His last name is tom Phoebus. I believe how he pronounced his 733 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,760 last night Phoebus, tom Phoebus, Phoebus. You gotta get the kid, 734 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:44,280 And I was thinking, I was thinking like Caveman or something at that point, 735 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,719 But yeah, I kind of logan, you got to get Anthony Davis 736 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,400 uh Center for the Lakers, his rookie cards and twenty twelve I believe. 737 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:59,639 But he has the biggest unibrow on the face of the planet historically. You 738 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,519 gotta check them out. How far you could get a unibrow card. One 739 00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:10,360 day, I'm thinking about creating a unibrow showcase on PSA. That's hilarious. 740 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,920 Victor, you're getting into any hobby trouble this weekend. You know, I'm 741 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,199 pretty busy at home this weekend. I have been working tirelessly on a video 742 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:25,719 for the Ultimate Rookie Card guideline for Anthony Edwards. I've had a lot of 743 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,360 demand for that video. I'm putting it together and I am. I wanted 744 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,320 it to have it done this weekend, and it's not gonna get done this 745 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,679 weekend. It's gonna take me another week to get that video up. So 746 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,880 I'll be working on that video, but also making just I'm gonna make a 747 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,159 short video just for tomorrow, just to keep consistency with my channel, so 748 00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:51,239 I'll be content creating. There you go, all right, and Logan, 749 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,480 we're gonna find you camped outside of game stops all over. I'm there. 750 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:58,199 Man's right. It's right next to a subshop. So man, it's perfect 751 00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:04,360 for me ap on his wall somewhere. I want a hashtag America. It's 752 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,599 right nowice to a sub shop. So I'm good. How about you, 753 00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:12,360 Danny, what are you doing, hobby budd Well, that's a great question. 754 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,039 I'm actually organizing. I am behind in organizing my fifty seven commons. 755 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:22,719 I know this is very exciting, but I'm gonna I have my fifty seven 756 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,920 binder. I actually keep my fifty seven set in all right. I've got 757 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,719 a pile of commons and various other stuff to get caught up on. And 758 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:37,280 uh, speaking of today's conversation, working on a PSA submission. So that's 759 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,920 my hobby goals. We'll see if they get done. Like you said, 760 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,719 Victor, I'm also at home and have an answer to higher authorities all throughout 761 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:51,280 this house, so I have three children and I get the fifth vote in 762 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,000 the house. It's unbelievable. All right, guys, well, i'd like 763 00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:59,400 to say to the chat room, thank you, Logan, Victor. You 764 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,800 guys my day very easy. I appreciate you as always. This was episode 765 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,119 three oh one. Every Saturday on bench Clear Media, you will catch us 766 00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:15,639 at eleven am Eastern with rotating guests, typically rotating, sometimes rotating early, 767 00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:20,639 sometimes rotating last minute, but they are always rotating. We will have some 768 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,519 new hosts coming back in June. Look forward to seeing John Adam from Splendid 769 00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:29,840 Sports. Brody's coming back. So see some fresh faces back, and I 770 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,920 think that'll be good for all of us. Agreed, agreed, agreed, 771 00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:37,480 agree. All right, on that note, we'll take a thanks, I'm 772 00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:44,280 ahalo and catch you next week. See you later. And there's the perfect albatro.