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By Bill cunning him the great American. Of course, the Democratic Party is

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going to run once again on January
the sixth when I watch MSNBC, so

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you don't have to every morning,
that's what they deal with and every afternoon

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and every evening. It won't go
away because they see that as a winner

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politically. Along with abortion, killing
as many unborn healthy babies as possible are

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the two main causes of the Democrat
Party in this election. One of the

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persons swept up in this was Tim
Hale, who was a January sixth defendant.

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I understand he was sentenced to about
four years in federal prison, did

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about three. He joins us now
in Tim Hale, welcome, I think

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for the first time to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And I think many Americans

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would like to know your involvement in
January sixth. But first of all,

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the temper of the times. Why
did you go there? What was your

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expectation? And give us the temper
of the crowd before it entered the Capitol.

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Well, sure, we thank you
for having me on. Bill.

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Absolutely what happened that day I was
there after an overnight shift. I was

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working as a naval security contractor,
a weapons contractor. I had worked for

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the government for about twelve years actually, So I got off of my overnight

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shift and I blasted down the road
to DC from Jersey, and you know,

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I went there in a suit and
a tie, thinking it was just

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going to be a speech. So
for me and I think a lot of

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people, was just going to be
historic day. I thought, either it

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would be the last, you know, public speech of President Trump's you know,

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only term, or god willing,
it would be the beginning of his

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second term, you know, and
we would pull a rabbit out of that.

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It was historic, it just wasn't
historic in the way that a lot

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of us had expected. And so
the benefit of being out now is that

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I've released a lot of video from
my phone, and I think this is

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why they kept a lot of us
in solitary confinement for so long, was

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they didn't want the public to see
this video. You know, the public

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has seen the same twenty second clips
of January sixth, of someone like breaking

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a window or something like that for
three years. But the truth is that

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if you look at the video I
have, people were just listening peacefully to

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Trump's speech at the Ellipse, and
you know, by the Washington Monument,

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that area in DC, and then
they just gradually and slowly meandered towards the

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Capitol building. What people don't realize
is that a half hour before we show

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up, a guy named Rayes who's
a federal informant, and a bunch of

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you know, proud boys who were
likely infiltrated, they breached a perimeter which

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was guarded by about five Capitol police, and this perimeter, which consists basically

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of bike racks, gets knocked over, and people don't know that. So

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this is this is before Trump's speech
is finished. And what ends up happening

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is because these perimeters were knocked down, it basically erased, and the fencing

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around it too, like little mesh
fencing was all cut down as well.

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Thousands and thousands of people unsuspectingly pour
into the area, not knowing that there

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is any restricted area at all,
so they think that they're just there for

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a protest, the First Amendment demonstration, which they are, and the video

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approves this. I have video where
we're just we're singing God Bless America,

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We're singing the national anthem, we're
chanting christ as King. You know,

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we're just having a good time.
We're peacefully demonstrating, people are waving their

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flags and all that chanting USA USA. What ends up happening is again a

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lot of most people don't know they're
not allowed to be there, and so

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the Capitol Police basically don't know what
they're doing. A lot of them are

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completely unprepared, and then eventually the
Metro Police. Actually, I want to

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put most of this on the Metro
PD. There were probably elements inside the

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Capitol PD who set this up,
but the Metro PD are the ones who

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escalated it into a full blown riot. They started throwing flash bang grenades at

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old ladies in the middle of the
crowd who weren't even doing anything. And

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then you had agitators who were planted
inside of the crowd who were basically giving

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the cops an excuse to attack the
crowd, and this created a snowball effect.

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The average person has no idea about
this, but I have video,

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and if you go to my Twitter
account Tim Hale criminally Funny Jay sixer,

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you can see some of this video. The average person, anybody who wasn't

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there, doesn't know the story.
So Tim Hale, you were not part

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of some grand conspiracy of the Proud
Boys. You're a naval contractor. You're

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about two hundred and fifty miles away. You thought, you know, I

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love Donald Trump. Let's go to
hear the speech which he gave. He

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said, go to the Capitol and
protest peacefully. And you're there. You

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weren't part of some grand conspiracy.
You were a person that said this might

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be an historical event. I have
some free time, let's get to Washington,

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d C. And then all of
a sudden, like a wave,

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you were swept up in this thing. And have you seen the HBO document

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on what happened with Nancy Pelosi?
It's now available that she says, I

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take responsibility for not protecting the capital. And this was Nancy Pelosi. Of

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course this was not well, shall
we say, disseminated the last few days

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because it doesn't fit the die tribe. But what happened on that day.

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But have you seen the HBO footage
about Nancy Pelosi yelling and her chief of

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staff? Why wasn't the National Guard
here? I take responsibility for that,

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And that is not even today.
It's not a big news item. It

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came out the last three or four
days, but it's not a big news

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item. Why is that, Well, because she was a part of it,

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and you know, I hinted that
this was sort of an inside job.

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There's actually body camera footage from the
Metro PD and they're yelling. They're

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yelling because they're completely outnumbered, and
they say, they set us up,

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they set us up. And the
question is whose day? The Metro PD

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answer to Mayor Bowser and the Capital
PD answered to Nancy Pelosi. So they

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were obviously set up by the Democrats
in DC because as we know, Trump

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offered them National Guard support. We
also know that Nancy Pelosi's daughter was filming

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that documentary, and I actually happen
to know from being inside the DC Gulag

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that there were two federal informants named
Nathan mcgrave and Ronald Sandlin, and they

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were coordinating. They were trying to
work footage, they were trying to work

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with Nancy Pelosi's daughter. They were
there with a film basically with camera camera

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crews. So there were a lot
of informants there to stage events so that

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it could be sold or recycled as
insurrection propaganda. And that's also we're going

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to talk about the fifteen twelve charge
eighteen USC fifteen twelve was first upheld in

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federal court for those very two informants. So federal informants are the first defendants

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who had the fifteen twelve upheld.
And that same charge wasn't just used against

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Jay sixth defendants, it's also now
being used against President Trump. So this

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was coordinated years in advance. So
you think who was coordinating. Alexandra,

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who's the of Nancy Pelosi has the
video which wasn't given to the January sixth

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committee, in what she says to
her chief of staff. Quote this Nancy

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Pelosi yelling in the back of a
limousine, we have responsibility, Terry.

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Terry being her chief of staff,
we did not have any accountability for what

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was going on there. We should
have. This is ridiculous, and she's

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screaming this quote. You're going to
ask me in the middle of this thing

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when they already preached the Capitol and
that stuff. I'm responsible for this.

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Why didn't we do more? That's
Nancy Pelosi saying that. But tell me

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from your perspective, Tim Hale,
how was this who conducted the conspiracy?

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Why did this happen? How come
there were bicycle racks and no one in

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the Capitol or Bowser, listen to
Donald Trump. We said, get the

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national Guard there. They were quickly
overwhelmed, and all of a sudden you

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were in a wave. Did you
commit any criminal acts in the Capitol like

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destruction of property, breaking down doors, destroying windows? What did Tim Hale

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do on that day? Yeah?
No, I mean, look, I'm

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very open about the fact that I, like, I've been in internet troll

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for like fourteen years. I'm an
amateur comedian. You know, I'm kind

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of a smart guy. But I
was there in a suit and tie.

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I went to Men's warehouse the night
before to get brand new dress shoes.

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I did try to be as respectful
as possible when I went there that day.

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You know, I did want to
be as as much of a representative

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or as much of a good citizen
as I possibly could. So when I

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went into the Capitol building, I
just wandered around. So I didn't assault

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anybody. I didn't break anything,
I didn't steal anything, and most people

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didn't. And so if you look
at the CCTV footage, I'm in the

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an area called the crypt. I'm
looking at the statues, you know.

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I actually there's this dorky clip of
me dancing inside the Capital Visitor Center.

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You know, I'm just having a
good time. I don't there's no riot

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from my perspective. And so I
actually I actually talked to the Capitol Police

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they like for about ten minutes and
like, oh, you guys got to

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go, And so they actually directed
us out. You know, we followed

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them out of the building. It
was a totally different story than what you

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see on CNN. And so yeah, absolutely, most people who were inside

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the building. You can even see
the footage of them walking through velvet ropes

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like it's a museum. It's like
it's a four. So absolutely not Nancy

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Pelosi yelling in her chief of staff
that afternoon quote, they thought they had

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sufficient resources. That's Nancy Pelosi's chief
of staff of Terry mccullar, referring to

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the Capitol Police. And then she
says, it's not a question of how

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they had. They don't know.
They clearly didn't know the problems, and

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I take responsibility for not having them
to be prepared more. That's Nancy Pelosi

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out of her mouth. So why
didn't the January sixth Committee put that out

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there? I'm gonna say probably because
it was a fake committee and it was

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a partisan witch hunt more than likely. I remember watching those when I was

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actually in the in the gulag still
and they were just absolutely fake. Most

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of the testimony you got from say
Capitol police officers completely fake. They lied

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about what the oathkeepers did, they
lied about the initial brief, they lied

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about everything, and the video corroborates
this. This isn't even in my opinion.

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The unfortunate thing is that it's just
taken so many years for the truce

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to finally come out. And I
mean, that's really that's really it is,

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and you know nobody's going to be
held responsible for it. That's a

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real crime. No, no,
nothing. So you're in the Capitol.

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It appears you're being let in by
the Capitol police. You walk into the

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Capitol, walk around looking at stuff, and you leave. How did the

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FBI finally find Tim Hale and put
you in the handcuffs? This is a

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convoluted story. But I was living
on the Navy base that I actually worked

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on, and my roommate was turned
into an informant by MCIs, so they

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had him wear a wire to get
me say incriminating stuff. I was partially

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set up by by the management at
the job I was the contractor for because

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I was also the union rep.
So I didn't have a very good relationship

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with management, as you can imagine
how labor disputes go. So they ended

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up they knew what they knew that
I was there, they just didn't know

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the DEI. So they ended up
giving a tip to NCIS. And so

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basically they were stalking me for about
a week until they finally grabbed me.

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And it's basically it. And and
they threw the book at you. How

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many weeks or months passed from January
sixth until the handcuffs got on you?

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One week? And then I spent
a year in solitary confinement in Washington,

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d C. After that, I
was in the DC Gulag for about two

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years, and then I was in
a federal prison at FCI four Dix and

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Jersey for about another year after that. So thank god they got President Trump's

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signed the first step back, or
I might have had to do a longer

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sentence. I only had to do
three years out of four. But yeah,

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thank god for Criminal Justice Reformer,
I would have done more time.

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How many are still locked up in
the solitary confinement of the Washington d C

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jails. How many of other J
six co defendants are still locked up?

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I think there's probably less than thirty
now, but they're still there. I'm

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going to say there are hundreds of
people who were who are in jails and

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prisons throughout the country. So it's
not just Washington d C. It's kind

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of like the Gulag archipelago. You
know, it's not you know, there's

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there, It's just like there are
many many facilities that the Feds have scattered

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throughout the country, and J six
defendants are being held there totally out of

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sight and out of mind. And
this is on top of the fact that

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there are over fourteen hundred people who've
been charged so far, and now they're

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bragging they're going to probably get up
to two thousand before the election, What

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were the conditions and the and the
Washington d C jail when you talk about

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the Goolag and solitary confinement described to
the American people the conditions without embellishing,

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I'll say this, the conditions probably
did improve after the first year, but

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in the first year you were in
solitary confinement for twenty three hours a day.

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You were only allowed out for a
shower and maybe a fifteen minute phone

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call. That wasn't always guaranteed because
there were so many people in there and

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only four phones. He kind of
had to, you know, it was

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kind of a gamble. You were
not allowed to have visitation with family.

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You were rarely allowed to see your
own lawyer. They refet for some time.

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They refused to give you your own
discovery so you could actually work on

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your case, your evidence. You
were not allowed to have religious services.

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You were not allowed to groom,
so I went sixteen months before I could

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get a haircut. My hair was
down to my back. They would not

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give us speedy trials, so again, sixteen months. It took me a

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year and a half for me to
get trial or to go to trial.

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And you're supposed to be able to
do that thanks to the Speedy Trial Act

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within seventy days. I had to
wait sixteen months. And so keep in

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mind again we're in solitary confinement for
most of this, and even after they

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end a solitary portion of it,
you're still you're barely able to go outside.

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You can't see sunlight, there's no
nutritional food. You know, it's

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jail, so I don't expect people
to care too much about jail food.

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But there was no meat. There
was no fruit. It was just you

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know, broccoli stems or it was
soy patties. People were developing health issues

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because of it. And on that
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were no doctors there. Anytime I
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infection, I was denied. And
so, you know, it basically was

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like a third world country. And
most of the staff, I'm not saying

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this to be mean, most of
the staff were foreigners, so they barely

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spoke English and they didn't care.
And that's you know, the unfortunate thing

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is, like, again, it's
not a partisan issue. This could happen

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to us, It can happen to
anybody, and so the whole system needs

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to be changed. It's just a
disaster. Tim Hale, Did you have

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television? Did you have books?
Did you have exercise equipment? What did

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you have in solitary confinement? Just
to bet and that's it. In solitary

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you had a one inch thick mattress
with no pillow. It was like a

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foam mattress on a metal frame.
You were in basically a seven foot cube

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for lack of a better term,
You had a two inch window slit that

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was kind of corroded, but you
could sort of see out of the window.

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You couldn't see much though, because
it was just a graveyard behind you.

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So the Dcjail has a parking lot
for the officers to park in and

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a graveyard, so you could see
graves, which is very encouraging. And

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that was pretty much it. In
terms of workout equipment, there was a

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gym we were never really allowed to
go in, and the like two or

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three times they actually ended up bringing
us over there for like an hour.

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All the equipment's broken, the floor
tiles are broken, everything's falling apart,

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and then there's a TV but it's
always put on unsurprisingly liberal liberal news MSNBC

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and CNN. I imagine, yep, yep. Absolutely. You got to

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represent right and then and then occasionally
you could order you could have books sent

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in, but because the mail room
takes like two months to give you anything

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that comes in, they like I
was getting I was getting letters from Thanksgiving

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in April, you know, like
they so, I mean, you're lucky,

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good good luck if that happens.
Tim Hale. We have to run.

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How did the American people access you? What is your what is your

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ex account? Or Facebook? How
can people contact you? You can find

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me on x if you type in
Tim Hale, criminally funny Jay sixer and

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uh, you know, if you're
interested in finding out more information about all

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the other families too, you can
go to Patriot Freedom Project dot com.

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It's a charity that my family set
up. It's endorsed by President Trump and

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basically it's just a fun to help
with a lot of the you know,

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financial burdens of the defendants and their
families because a lot of these guys were

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the bread winners, and so you're
I got I got lucky in that regard.

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I'm not married, I don't have
kids. A lot of these guys

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aren't so lucky, and so it's
really hard for these families to get by.

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I have to run. But you
went there a suit and a tie

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and a brand pair of shoes,
ended up in stripes and served three or

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four years. It's uh, not
what people and it's not what we think

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is the United States of America.
I think you should have hung a Hamas

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flag around the shoulders of George Washington, in which case you would have been

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wined, dined, and pocket lined. But Tim Hale, once again,

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thank you for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show, and thank you for telling

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us your story. Thank you for
having me on. I really appreciate it.

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God bless you, God Bless America. Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WULW.

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You sailed beyond the horizon in search
of an island scrubbed from