1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,080 The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend. No, 2 00:00:10,519 --> 00:00:15,000 here is your host, t J. Leaves. Yes, we are 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,920 back and we are ready to go. We're in a brand new month. 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,359 We've got a Jake Paul returning pay per view. We've got fight news, 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,120 nostalgia. We're gonna hear from a former world champion in a one on one 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,280 as well a conversation. Hello, welcome back in. I am merely the 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,359 somewhat capable host here on the preview t J reeves. He is our insider 8 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:40,200 Fight Freach to unite Substack and Big Fight Weekend dot Com. Hello, fully 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,000 clothed Dan Raphael. Never have we gotten so much response about whether or not 10 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:50,479 you were actually in your underwear last Saturday night late early Sunday for the recap 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,600 podcast. We are confirming yes that was the case, and yes you are 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,320 now much more properly attired, even though it's theater of the mind pod cast 13 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:03,040 audio. Good to be with you, very good to be whether or not 14 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,719 not together in the same room like we were for the last couple of times, 15 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:11,280 I know, but we were back in our home bases and uh yeah 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,560 tonight, no no underwear, just a pair shorts. Although I can't confirm 17 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,040 or deny whether or not a Star Wars episode is on like it was the 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,120 other week, But that was that was brilliant, brilliant stuff. And by 19 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:26,319 and by the way, I don't think I told you this before I hit 20 00:01:26,359 --> 00:01:30,400 the record button, but we just set a record on one of our recap 21 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:36,239 podcasts with the amount of audience because we had that much that I just showed 22 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,120 you. Wow offer recap podcast. So thank you to the peeps. I'm 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,799 glad they like it because I mean, we like doing it because it's fun. 24 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Yes, I'm glad that everybody else seems to be interested in to hear 25 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:51,760 what we have to say. Also and more informative for everybody. Yes, 26 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,280 and more and more of you are finding us again. The preview is Thursday 27 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,000 night into Friday, depending on how you found us here a social media link 28 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:00,200 Dan Substact Big Fight Weekend dot com. The rec cap is Sunday night into 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,879 Monday. And we have religiously diligently done this weekend after weekend, even in 30 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,319 Vegas, even in the wee hours of the morning. We were doing this 31 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,159 to make sure that you have it. And I did get some feedback from 32 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,159 a lot of people that were like, hey, I love the fact that 33 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:17,400 you guys had had a post fight recap, And I said to them, 34 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:22,080 where you've been. We've had a lot of recaps over and over and over 35 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,080 again for the last How can we not have a post fight recap on arguably 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,840 the most important fight of the enter. I just have a facetious question. 37 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,560 Is Terence Crawford done hitting Errol Spence yet it's now Thursday? Is he still 38 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:32,759 hitting it? Or is it over with? I think it's over with? 39 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,680 Okay, So we have lots to get to on the program. Thank you 40 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,159 for rating us and reviewing us. A bunch of you did that. In 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:46,879 July, we will do the giveaway for the Errolspans Terrence Quawford program for somebody 42 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,919 that rated us and review us, reviewed us and took the screenshot and got 43 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,560 it to us. And there were a bunch of you that did that. 44 00:02:52,719 --> 00:02:55,639 We'll do a random draw and give that away on Sunday Night's recap podcast. 45 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:59,960 Stand by for who the name is? Who is one? Brother? Raphael 46 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:04,759 is in possession of said program, So we're gonna be good for that. 47 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,639 So thank you and continue to do that, continue to rate us, and 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,280 review us, because you don't know when we're gonna bribe you again. But 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Apple Podcast five star review. That helps with the algorithm, and I think 50 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,759 it's helping us with the growth of the audience. There are I will say 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,840 this, in July there were tens of thousands of you listening, tens of 52 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,400 thousands of you listening. Keep it up, keep it up, rate us 53 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:29,319 and review us. That will help. All right, So let's segue into 54 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,560 some news again. Oscar Valdez, if I didn't mention the name as a 55 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:38,159 guest with Dan one on one coming up Valdez Emanuel Navarrat coming up WBO? 56 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Do you prefer junior lightweight to super featherweight WBO Junior lightweight title fight next weekend, 57 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:49,759 not this weekend, next weekend, August twelfth in Glendale, Arizona. 58 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,439 Will you will hear from Oscar Valdez with Dan in a little bit. Stand 59 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:57,759 by for that that conversation coming up. Plus, we need to mention we're 60 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:00,560 brought to you by our friends at PPV dot com and the pay per view 61 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:04,120 coverage, the only streaming service in North America that does not require a subscription 62 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:08,599 that's going to stream the Jake Paul Nate Diaz fight card and main event from 63 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:11,960 Dallas, and we're gonna hear from our guy, Mark Bocardi a PPV dot 64 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,919 com tell you more about that later on the show. We thank them for 65 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:17,759 sponsoring us on the program. All right, let's get into it with just 66 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,199 some news. One more time off the Spence Crawford. It really should be 67 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,120 the Crawford Demolition of Spence. Pay per view numbers are mostly out. You 68 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:30,040 had the reporting on Thursday as we record this on Thursday night, and it's 69 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:33,279 a win. Isn't that fair to say it's a win the audience? Go 70 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:36,000 ahead? Yeah? I mean, look, I think going into this fight, 71 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,800 I was asked many times, how do you think the fight's gonna do? 72 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,439 And my answer was standard, It's going to do very well, but 73 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,199 it's not going to be as big. It's the fight is more significant, 74 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,959 it's more meaningful. It's more important than when Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis had 75 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,360 their fight on April twenty second. But this one won't do as much in 76 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,839 terms of the commercial success, but it will still do still do very well. 77 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:00,199 And you know, I don't know. I could say I'm a profit 78 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,639 but then Verse hit base exactly what they would do. It is not as 79 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,319 large in terms of what the other fight I just mentioned did, but it 80 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:13,079 was very successful. The fight between Crawford and Spence the most significant important fight 81 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,839 of the year I think for diehard fans, more even more anticipated than the 82 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:20,160 Davis and Garcia fight. My sources have told me, and these are people 83 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:24,480 that are involved in the business who know their deal to know what's going on 84 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:28,199 here and that it fight, that the fight will at the worst perform. 85 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,639 It at six hundred and fifty thousand pay per views. That's in domestically, 86 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,879 that's not the worldwide. I saw somebody on Twitter saying, well, Jake 87 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:38,480 Call and Tommy Fury did eight hundred thousand, that's worldwide. The six fifty 88 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,439 numbers just the United States. In terms of what it did, that's a 89 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,480 tremendous number. That's over fifty million dollars in revenue. It's around fifty five 90 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,439 million dollars in terms of the pay per view take. Keep in mind there 91 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:56,839 was also another twenty one million dollars that was generated by Eryl Spence and Karence 92 00:05:56,879 --> 00:05:59,600 Crawford from the ticket sales at T Mobile Arena. They announced it as a 93 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:05,279 nineteen nine hundred person sell out, and that is only slightly less than what 94 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:09,279 Tank and Ryan did, which was twenty two point eight million. And I'm 95 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,920 going to tell you, I maybe I'm wrong about this, but I'm pretty 96 00:06:11,959 --> 00:06:16,439 sure it's the first time there's ever been in the history of boxing two twenty 97 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,560 million dollar gates in the same year. And these happened within, you know, 98 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,800 just a few months of each other, in the same building. Obviously, 99 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,000 both fights were taking place at T Mobile Arena. But it just goes 100 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,680 to show you that if you give the people what they want, and people 101 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:32,959 wanted to see their Arrow Spence against Terrence Crawford, and people wanted to see 102 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Tank Davis against Ryan Garcia, that they will shell out that money for those 103 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:42,519 tickets and make it a special night. And again, this fight may not 104 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,959 be on the same level commercially as what that other fight did, but six 105 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,079 hundred and fifty thousand, and by the way, with a real chance based 106 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,879 you know, because these are these are people need to understand. It's not 107 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,959 like they were able to count up every number. The way that they come 108 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,560 up with these numbers is they know their digital numbers. They know what it 109 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,360 did on direct TV and Dish network, and they have a rough idea of 110 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:04,319 cable operators, which has become less and less important compared to the other metrics 111 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:11,720 because they get some key cable systems and they compare it against what other fights 112 00:07:11,839 --> 00:07:15,199 of a similar type did, and they extrapolay, and they've got formulas that 113 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,160 work because they've been tried and true for decades on how they do that. 114 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:21,639 So when I tell you six fifty, there's and I was told by the 115 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:27,079 people that I have the numbers from there's a really good chance that this fight 116 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,319 will increase and could get to six seventy five, perhaps a little bit more. 117 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,519 So this is a win. I mean both fighters who went into this 118 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:38,439 fight without taking guarantees. We'll wind up once expenses are paid, once showtime 119 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,920 gets its money, once the managers and everybody else gets their money, and 120 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:44,800 the promotion gets some of its money, etc. And it's all said and 121 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,959 done. You know, the two fighters are gonna probably reap twenty five million 122 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,279 dollars plus from this fight. Spence had a little bit of a greater percentage 123 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,600 in terms of the deal. He had a little bit bigger than the Lion 124 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:56,800 share, so he'll get probably more than that in profits, you know a 125 00:07:56,839 --> 00:08:00,160 little less, but suffice it to say, both guys are making not only 126 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:03,000 career pay days, but creer pay days by multiples, and a couple of 127 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:07,560 important points, because we've been over this and been over this typically right now, 128 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:09,920 for a lot of these pay per views, they struggle to have more 129 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:13,120 than a couple one hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, depending on who it 130 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,439 is. So this is more than double that, and you set a very 131 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,959 key part there at the end. Not unlike Davante Davis and Ryan Garcia making 132 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,160 an excess of twenty million in their case, in excess of thirty million. 133 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:26,399 If fighters are making twenty twenty five million, what's a few million among friends? 134 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:31,319 This is Rayfield type money the stratosphere. If they're making that kind of 135 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:35,039 money, then there's the incentive for get your carcasses in the ring for the 136 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,440 biggest fights, because the appetite, like you said, is there for the 137 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:46,480 biggest fights, and you will make I'll use your money analogy, exponentially more. 138 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:50,039 You will make three or four times more if you're fighting a more important, 139 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:56,360 bigger fight, then you're fighting a lesser fight that's only on showtime, 140 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,840 or a lesser pay per view where you don't make half or a third of 141 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,159 what this is. So this give the people what they want. If you 142 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,039 give the people what they want, they're gonna be willing to spend their money 143 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,440 on a ticket. They're gonna be willing to spend their money on a pay 144 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,279 per view or a closed circuit or whatever, and you'll make the money. 145 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,840 And that's that's the key. So, yeah, they waited till it was 146 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:20,679 a little later, maybe in their careers, but still at the top of 147 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,000 their game, and they finally got to fight on and obviously they're going to 148 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:28,840 be very, very handsomely rewarded in terms of the finances. And that's good 149 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:33,399 because I'm hopeful that this will incentivize other fighters who may not make twenty five 150 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:37,639 million dollars, but if they're used to making let's say a million dollars, 151 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,399 and now they can take a big fight in you know, the people want 152 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,120 to see maybe they can make four million dollars or five million dollars. In 153 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:46,759 other words, not everyone's gonna make ten, twenty thirty. But if you're 154 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:50,320 not ever made, you know, the big, big money, you should 155 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,600 want to be able to have a fight where you can make a double or 156 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:56,279 triple what you've ever made before. So maybe that's only only quote unquote three 157 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,919 four million dollars. I mean, let's get our let's get our asses in 158 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:03,120 ring. What's a few million among friends? Also, you have more on 159 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,559 Terrence Crawford homecoming Omaha, Nebraska. That's not this weekend, but it's coming 160 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,799 up right for as part of the story that I wrote on my sub stack 161 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:18,399 about the pay per view receipts and all on the gate is that the city 162 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,440 of Omaha is going to celebrate his victory. I mean it looks Oma, 163 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,799 Nebraska, which I've been to a few times for some of Crawford's fights. 164 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,720 It's a great little city. I mean, I definitely enjoyed my visits there, 165 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:33,759 but it does not have some big professional sports league the sports that it 166 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:39,519 that it gravitates too. They obviously they have Nebraska college sports. Obviously the 167 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,000 football team is huge, and even basketball. I mean, when Terence became 168 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,519 the undisputed champion in the junior about the division, the fight took place in 169 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,039 the arena where the where the men's basketball plays in Lincoln, UM. But 170 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,799 so he's like the franchise in terms of pro sports in Omah, So you 171 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:58,440 didn't say it the right way. They have two seasons in Nebraska sports, 172 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,639 Nebraska corn Husker football season and the off season. That is pretty much all 173 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:09,200 they have. But Crawford fought in Omaha last December. Little known David Evanessian 174 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,440 was the opponent, and he sold out the downtown arena gate. The gate 175 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,440 wasn't the same as the sellout obviously at the team mobile, but he's got 176 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:22,080 a massive following in the Cornhusker state. And by the way, David evanes 177 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,759 And actually probably performed better against Crawford than Arrow Spenstead given wow, and it 178 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:31,360 may be true. Oh anyway, but as far as the hometown goes, 179 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,960 so on August a twelfth, from local time ten am till noon, they're 180 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,440 gonna honor Crawford with a parade. The mayor is going to be there, 181 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:41,559 and they're gonna have a you know, a big shin dig and celebrate his 182 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,159 achievements and celebrate uh, you know, his accomplishments and also, uh you 183 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,960 know, the way that the mayor described it in the comments that were put 184 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:54,919 out was not only his achievements as an outstanding world champion, but also as 185 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,840 a mentor to the youth of the city. Uh that that comes to the 186 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:03,159 B and B Sports Academy where they teach kids boxing and uh and do the 187 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:05,679 right thing for their community. So Terrence has always been, you know, 188 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,840 very community oriented. I remember when he when he you know, when he 189 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,759 came back from having become the lightweight champion over in Scotland against Ricky Burns, 190 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:16,840 there was a lot of conversation with Top Rank, his promoter at the time, 191 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,080 about doing a fight in having this homecoming fight in Oma, which had 192 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:24,720 not hosted a world title fight since Joe Frazier fought there against Ron Stander, 193 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:28,519 who was the local guy back in the early seventies. And Crawford wanted to 194 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,679 make sure that a top rank was going to come to the hometown. They 195 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:35,320 needed to make the tickets affordable so the locals could attend, because you know, 196 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,360 Omas a pretty blue collar kind of community. The folks are not other 197 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:41,159 than Warren Buffett, I guess you know, they're not super rich people. 198 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,559 So you got to make the tickets reasonable for the for the locals, and 199 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:48,840 and uh they did that, and that was very important to Terrence Prafford to 200 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:52,919 make sure that his fans and his community could come out and support him for 201 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,480 a price that wasn't going to break the bank. And they've done that a 202 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:58,399 few times. The tickets over there and never been super expensive for his fights, 203 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,559 and he's come pretty much a beloved figure in Omahana, Braska. Good 204 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,600 for him. It's like I said, it's a good little town and he's 205 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:07,279 carried it on his back. And Buffett's been in a couple of those fights 206 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,519 as a billion in around the peeps and just taking it in a man of 207 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,960 the people to come watch Terence Crawford fights, or what a great story that 208 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,240 is in that area. He's turned it into a boxing big deal to be 209 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,960 in Nebraska of all places. With that again, Oscar Valdez coming up in 210 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:31,080 a couple of moments with Dan. We are here as part of the preview 211 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,919 in the preview mode and we will get to it now with Jake Paul and 212 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Nate Diaz, and I just got to say on the front end, and 213 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,519 I know our friends at PPV dot com or streaming it, we want you 214 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,440 to buy it to see it, to go and watch it. I am 215 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,759 less enthused. I'm just being honest because this is not a boxer for him. 216 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,440 We're back to Jake fighting Nate Daz distinguished, yes as a UFC champion, 217 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,639 but he's not a boxer. I've been there, I've done that. 218 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:58,320 So I'm just saying my piece. I'm not saying don't watch it. I'm 219 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,600 not saying there might not be a dramatic out here by Jake Paul. There 220 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,519 might be some drama where maybe Nate Daz hits him. I just I had 221 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,679 gotten to the point with the Tommy Fury fight of let's see if he can 222 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:11,120 take another step as a boxer. Now we're stepping back to fight. I 223 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,440 understand they're making a bunch of money, but this is not a boxing significant 224 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,120 fighting in of itself. Because if he beats Nate Das, do you not 225 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,559 agree that that's what everybody's gonna say that you were supposed to beat him. 226 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:24,679 You've been training as a boxer. This guy's not a boxer. Go ahead, 227 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:26,840 Dan in the preview moment, No, I get that. I mean, 228 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:31,480 look, Jake's events are not so much about boxing in the sense of 229 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:35,399 a Crawford and a Spence. No one's talking about championships, no one's talking 230 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:39,399 about pound for pound. Jake has his fan following. I mean, look, 231 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:41,320 I like watching Jake Paul fight. I mean, people think I'm crazy. 232 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,759 I'm like, why, because I've got room in my life for more 233 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,360 than just pound for pound fights and world title fights. I mean, I 234 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,159 think, you know, you get a little bit of everything. So you 235 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,879 know, Jake has the personality and you know, he's fun to watch. 236 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:56,360 He's a hard worker. But for him for his boxing career, it's important 237 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:01,399 from the standpoint because he does have aspirations to be more than just you know, 238 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,440 a guy break chef the ever time talks about it. He does respect 239 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,240 the sport, I believe, but he's coming off his first loss, the 240 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,960 first time he stepped up to fight an actual boxer that was more than an 241 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,360 MMA fighter or some other sport or something else like that. That was what 242 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:18,120 the types of fights he fought earlier on is. So when he did step 243 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,399 up against Tommy Fury in February, and I'm not saying Tommy Fury is some 244 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:24,960 great fighter, but he wasn't undefeated professional and you know, boxing was the 245 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,840 only sport that he participated in. His brothers Tyson Fury the heavyweight champion. 246 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,679 Anyway, it was a really close fight, but it was the first time 247 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,919 that Jake ever suffered suffered a loss, so you can get past that. 248 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,840 The question is if he loses to an Adas, now you're like the Freak 249 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:43,440 Show. You've lost two in a row. I think that the Tommy Fury 250 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:48,720 fight. I don't think damage is him that badly. You'll lose an Adas 251 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:52,639 on top of a loss to Tommy Fury. Now you're damage from the standpoint 252 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:54,039 where, yeah, you can still carry on, but are there going to 253 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,559 be a big, big turnout for your sixty dollars pay per views after that? 254 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,360 And that's a little bit of a debatable thing. So Nate dz is 255 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:03,200 making his boxing pro debut, even though he's, like you mentioned, a 256 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:07,759 distinguished career in the in MMA. So we're gonna see what happens. I 257 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:10,960 mean, I don't really know what to think about this fight, frankly. 258 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,799 I mean, Nate Daz is kind of done as a as a UFC fighter. 259 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:17,440 He's never boxed before to my knowledge, and you know Tommy, I 260 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,159 mean not Tommy. Jake Paul is not the most experienced boxer, but he's 261 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,360 gotten out more boxing experience than nads because he has had you know, the 262 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,159 six the seven professional fights he did go eight rounds with Tommy Fury, and 263 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,440 he did fight the likes of Anderson Silva and di Ron Woodley, et cetera. 264 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,559 So look, I expected to be a fun fight. I'm definitely tuned 265 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:37,279 it into this one, and I'm gonna be tuning in on PPV dot com 266 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:38,720 to tell you the truth. Very nice, very nice. Uh And I 267 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,279 you know, look, I will say this. I was at the second 268 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:45,039 Woodley fight, the rematch in downtown Tampa, and it was electric in the 269 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,240 building. And what was fascinating Dan is there was heat against Jake Paul. 270 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,559 I mean, there were thousands booing him and that was interesting. So we'll 271 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,320 see so subsequently, and in fairness to him, he was trying to fight 272 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,879 Fury back a year and a half ago. He was also trying to fight 273 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,720 Hassim Rockman Junior, and we went through that whole thing last summer and that 274 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:11,680 didn't So he has been trying to fight some boxers. Finally did fight Fury. 275 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:15,559 Now we're back to an MMA guy. I'll be interested in how big 276 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,359 is the crowd for this matchup. And this is in the home of the 277 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,160 Dallas Mavericks and the Dallas Stars, the American Airline Center, an arena that 278 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,720 seats some twenty thousand for boxing, So what will that look like? I 279 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,160 was told by a Dallas source this afternoon. There are plenty of tickets still 280 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,640 available in the third level, I said to that source, though they're fairly 281 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,480 affordable, and a lot of those may get gobbled up as Thursday becomes Friday. 282 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:41,319 I don't know this Friday becomes Saturday, because that's the more affordable tickets. 283 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,319 We'll see what kind of crowd is there and what kind of showed he 284 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:51,039 puts on. And clarify again, it's a scheduled ten round fight, correct, 285 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,799 and the bet Us line has it fairly even it only has Jake Paul 286 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,640 is a three and a half to one favorite here in this one, even 287 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,759 though Natedez has not had to fight anything else well as far as the number 288 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:03,440 of rounds goes. If you remember when this fight was first made, it 289 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:07,640 was announced as an eight rounder, and then there was a back and forth 290 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:11,440 between Jake Paul and NDS, ND saying, you know or I forget who 291 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,119 brought it up, but basically somebody was like, why don't we make it 292 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,200 a ten round or let's make it even more interesting? And I think it 293 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,319 was an ad as that said that, and Jake Paul was like fine, 294 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,200 and ultimately they had a switch to a ten rounder, which is fine with 295 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,640 me, and so they'll go. At least they'll schedule for ten Whether it 296 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,640 actually lasts that long, who the heck knows, But uh, look, 297 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,640 here's the bottom line. It's a weekend on which they're we're coming off the 298 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:33,000 huge fight with Spence Crawford. Now there are some people that probably didn't get 299 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:37,240 a chance to see thats so Showtime we'll replay that fight on Saturday night along 300 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:41,440 with the epilogue episode of their all access series, which I believe Raphael is 301 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,960 going to make an appearance. And if they actually do what they said they 302 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,960 would, because when I was walking over to the arena on the night of 303 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,480 the fight to the camera, guy in, one of the producers, guys 304 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:55,000 who I've known for a long time from Showtime, you know, came running 305 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,759 over to me to ask me some questions that, like, you know, 306 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,480 would you mind letting us record this it's for the epilogue. I was like, 307 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:00,920 okay, cool. So they asked me a couple of things, my 308 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,279 thoughts on the fight going in and the historical significance and everything, So we'll 309 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:07,759 see if if I, if I didn't end up on the cutting room floor, 310 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:11,039 we'll see if I made the episode. So but anyway, my point 311 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:14,880 here is this, there's the replay on Saturday, plus the epilogue episode, 312 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,480 and the only other real boxing action of consequence is this pay per view with 313 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,559 Jake and Nate. And of course we'll talk about in just a minute the 314 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,000 women's championship fight between the undisputed featherweight champion a Man to Toronto and a rematch 315 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:29,039 with Heather Hardy, a former title holder, and the rest of that card. 316 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:33,400 And so there's really not anything else of consequence this weekend. So it's 317 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,720 the only game in town in some sense. The conversation continues in a moment. 318 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:38,400 First, a couple of words from a couple of our sponsors, PPV 319 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:42,480 dot com. 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Amanda Serrano, as you mentioned, will be defending her 344 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:19,279 featherweight titles in a rematch with Heather Hardy. That is the fight immediately preceding 345 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:26,880 preceding the Paul Diaz main event, And so let's get a thought or two 346 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:33,359 on this. Serrano is heavily favored here to win in the rematch. She's 347 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,440 also been angling and wanting another opportunity at Katie Taylor. That's not going to 348 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,880 happen here in the short term, but she is content to get on these 349 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,279 Jake Paul cards in fun of large crowds and make huge money. And this 350 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,279 is about the third or fourth time she will have fought as the co feature 351 00:21:49,519 --> 00:21:52,839 in these. So give me a little bit on the rematch here Serrano and 352 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,400 Hardy before we move on. Well, Amanda. Her boxing promoter is MVP, 353 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,640 which is Jig's company, So he's her promoter, and so one of 354 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,079 the things he's done has put her in a big spot on these undercards. 355 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:06,680 Obviously, last year, in April last year, she and Katie Taylor had 356 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:10,640 what I think goes down is at the moment anyway, the most significant and 357 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:14,359 biggest, best, most lucrative women's boxing match in the history of women's boxing. 358 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:18,519 They sold at Madison Square Garden. They put on an ash and that 359 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,720 was a tremendous fight that she lost by a very close flot decision to Katie. 360 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:26,400 And remember she was moving up to chat she's the featherweight champion. She 361 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:30,359 was moving up to challenge Katie for the undisputed lightweight title. Now, since 362 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,759 that fight, she won another fight in September where she became the undisputed champion 363 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:41,000 at featherweight or that was a defense in September. Then she became the undisputed 364 00:22:41,079 --> 00:22:45,039 champion in February of this year and just a barn burner against Erica Hernandez. 365 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:48,359 And now she's going in with this defense against Hardy. Now, look, 366 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,839 I got nothing bad to say about Heather Hardy. Okay, but this is 367 00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:55,839 a mismatch fight. Heather Hardy is not been the same for years. She 368 00:22:56,039 --> 00:23:02,000 fought Katie Taylor a number of years ago in in twenty nineteen, took an 369 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,759 ass kicking in that fight, lost basically every single round, got beat up 370 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,400 real bad. It was kind of amazing to me that she actually was able 371 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,759 to make it out of the fight. There was a lot of times in 372 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:12,680 those first three or four rounds where he thought the referee was going to stop 373 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,480 the fight. And I'm not really sure why she's qualified now to have this 374 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:21,480 rematch other than the fact that supposedly Sronto promised she would fight her again, 375 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,559 because when she fought her the first time, Heather had the title and she 376 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,319 lost it. Parties only had one fight in the last four years, so 377 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,960 you're right, it is strange, but she's getting the apporunity because it's a 378 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,839 rematch, so right. And she also, I mean when she fought she 379 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:40,839 has had other fights, but she's fought in MMA fights, So in terms 380 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,839 of her boxing matches, yes, she has not had the big fights. 381 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,920 I mean she after the Toronto fight, she was off for almost two years. 382 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,720 She came back and she lost another fight. She's won a couple of 383 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:53,440 like six and six round and eight round decisions against you know, regular old 384 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:59,079 opponents. So then look, this is a it's supposed to be a showcase 385 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,039 fight for Serrano and almost like a golden parachute if you will, for Heather 386 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,200 Hardy, who, by the way, has been a credit to women's boxing. 387 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,319 She's made great fights, She's fought everybody, She's always given a great 388 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:12,680 effort, and she's you know, been a hard worker, and she's never 389 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:17,599 had the really big payday, so you know, they're paying it forward a 390 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:19,279 little bit. But if you're buying the pay per view, I think, 391 00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:25,440 uh, you know, you're helping a fund that that that retirement, uh 392 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,599 for for for Heathers. So you know, I just hope that she doesn't 393 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,920 take too much of a beating. What's can I tell you? Uh? 394 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:33,799 And it was the first time and it's more than likely going to be the 395 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:40,640 second time. And Serrano is one of the most disciplined, uh technical boxers, 396 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,839 good left hand, and she wants that shot. So we'll see one 397 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,359 of the other fights I'm more interested in that's on the unit card. I'm 398 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,400 not saying it's the most competitive, biggest fight of all time but there's a 399 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,759 female super middlewaiting him, Shadasia Green, who's taken on a woman named Olivia 400 00:24:53,839 --> 00:25:00,160 Curry. Now Green is the mandatory now for uh one of the titles that's 401 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,960 super middleweight. She's the mandatory four for Savannah Marshall and that or you know, 402 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:10,480 that's that sort of makes things awfully interesting if you ask me, because 403 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:12,279 she is not well known, but a lot of people think she's got a 404 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,559 real chance to do some serious damage. She's probably the probably the best women's 405 00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:19,720 boxer that's not known, and so she's part of this card. You know, 406 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,319 Jake Paul and his team have done a good job of highlighting and giving 407 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,680 opportunities to some of the better female boxers, like he did with Serranto a 408 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:32,640 few years ago. So that's one undercard fight I'm sort of intrigued by because 409 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,400 i haven't really seen a whole lot of her, but I've heard a whole 410 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,720 lot about her. Good enough for the Paul Diaz card with Serranto and Hardy 411 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:44,880 in the rematch the Ladies World Featherweight title fight as the co feature. With 412 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,319 that, let's get to a conversation about a fight not this weekend, but 413 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,480 next weekend. As Oscar Valdez looks to become a world champion again, very 414 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,920 intriguing fight with Emanuel Navaratte of Mexico, who's a hard punching world champ. 415 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:02,680 Dan spoke with Valdez earlier this week in advance of the fighters getting to Arizona 416 00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:06,599 and the showdown we go to that now. It's my great pleasure to welcome 417 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,759 into our podcast this week. It's the former featheright and junior lightweight world champion 418 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:15,079 Oscar Valdez from his training camp in Lake Tahoe getting ready for his very important 419 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,279 fight challenging the WBO Junior lightweight champion Emmanuel Neveret August twelfth in the ESPN main 420 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,359 event from the Desert Diamond Arena and Glendale, Arizona. Oscar, thank you 421 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,279 so much for doing this. It's always a pleasure to talk to you. 422 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,759 Have you been what's it going, Dad, you know, if it has 423 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,720 gone well, I'm very excited for this. I feel I feel blessed to 424 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,559 be in this position again. You know, as many people don't, I 425 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,279 lost my fight against Shaker steam is Dot. Theyde the world fall on top 426 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,319 of me. You know, it's going through my own my owner pressure if 427 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:45,960 you will. You know, lasted about a week and week and have it 428 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,319 fot back and forth mental Jesus, I should have done this, should have 429 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,400 done Dad. They got one day. I just you know, just said, 430 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,039 you know what, forget about that. You know that's in the past. 431 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,200 You know, it's it's life. You know, you do win some 432 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,480 fight and you lose some fights, but you always gotta gotta go forward in 433 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,480 life. That's inside the ring, outside of the rings. So you know, 434 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:08,839 I just got very motivated. You know, it was a rough year 435 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,359 because I had my reving dream Bot, my ris in the back, and 436 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,759 it was just it was just a hard year. But now that we're back, 437 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,920 you know, I feel blessed. I'm in this position right now. 438 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,160 I feel that everything happens for a reason because my mind is clear. I 439 00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:29,519 feel physically and mentally ready for this fight. I just can't wait to fight 440 00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:32,839 it. Most morning I'm fighting in Glendale. It was a forward because in 441 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,400 my second home. You know, so a lot of people from for Phoenix 442 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,240 are going to be there, from Tucson are going to be there from least 443 00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:42,799 see or my family is going to be there. I'm being very very excited 444 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,240 for this one. Well, you just made a point about the fact that 445 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,759 you're fighting in Glendale, and uh, you know, people know you grew 446 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480 up in the Tucson area. You have roots to some degree in Arizona. 447 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:56,079 But obviously you're both Mexican fighters. That's going to be a big Mexican crowd. 448 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,759 I've been thinking to myself, who's going to be the fan favorite, 449 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:02,279 because you both have are gonna have fans are It's gonna be fifty fifty is 450 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,359 more people are going to travel out to cheer on Oscar Valdez er. What 451 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,559 do you think about how it's going to be in the arena? You know, 452 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,440 I do. I do see a fifty fifty a lot of people, 453 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,119 and I like that because it will sucked for to just have one sighted fight. 454 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,079 You know, all the fans, you know, So you know, 455 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,480 we want to give the fans what they want, which is a good fight. 456 00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:30,200 You know. You know I've heard him saying before. I've been saying 457 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,440 that we want to give a war to the fans. Well, knowing the 458 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,039 way to you guys go at it, I think that they'll start rooting for 459 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,200 whichever guy has got the moment in the in the course of the fight, 460 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,160 now that goes uh. I was looking back at his record a little bit 461 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,240 oscar and you know, because I know he's been around for a while and 462 00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:47,480 he's racked up win after a win, I didn't realize how long it's been 463 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:51,000 since his one loss, which was a four round fight in the decision loss. 464 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:52,400 This goes all the way back to two thousand and twelve, and I 465 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,319 wonder, how, how how do you give him his second loss? Which 466 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,400 is obviously the goal here, I mean the goalsest. You know, I 467 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,759 visualize this fight many different ways, you know, I visualize it maybe knocking 468 00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:06,839 about in the first round, Um, knocking about in the last round. 469 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,680 I visualize it, or boxing them. I visualize it broadly, staying in 470 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,759 their painting with Um. I visualize it making a dirty fight, holding the 471 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,240 winning. But I always visualize myself winning, you know, in every in 472 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,240 every way that I've looked at this fight, I visualize myself winning. It 473 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,000 also depends on a week where he brings to the table because a lot of 474 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:26,559 times we've got a game plan. You know, a lot of these fights 475 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,319 that I had tough fights against Work, the plan was to go out there, 476 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,480 you know, boxman, our jab, I move around the ring and 477 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,319 use my boxing skills because that's something that I learned a lot of my amateur 478 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,359 background. But that worked that one shot to the phase. You know that 479 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,720 that that game plan goes out the window and then we gotta tough it out 480 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,960 and see who who has more heart in there. So it could be one 481 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880 of those fights. It could be one of those fight, But it all 482 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,079 depends on where he brings to the table. You know, if our slow, 483 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,880 we're gonna start slow. We're gonna start fairs and start fast. Um, 484 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:02,200 but I'm ready. I'm ready for anything I get on out of thing. 485 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,799 He might not have the most beautiful style out there, but it is 486 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,839 effective. And there's last fight that I've seen. You know, I saw 487 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,000 two things or two things that stand out. One of the first one was 488 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:15,559 that he got sent to the canvas, and that's I was like, Okay, 489 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:19,079 you can't send to canvas. He does have a suspect shit that you 490 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,480 can't send a canvas. But the other thing is he does get up. 491 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:26,759 He does get up. He does fight for first rounds to the last round, 492 00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:30,920 and then that fight he stopped his opponent in later rounds. So you 493 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,599 can't count them out. So I'm want to be prepared for the second I 494 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,400 get out of the second option that the fight you ever sag him to a 495 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,799 canvas, He's gonna damn be ready to fight, to continue fighting. Don't 496 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:47,960 count them out. So just preparing myself with the better version of my God, 497 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,559 because that's only gonna make me bring the best out of me. Well, 498 00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:55,400 I remind people that was that fantastic fight between him and Leam Wilson from 499 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Australia that you're talking about where he did get knocked down. That was the 500 00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:00,279 fight that you were supposed to be in. You mentioned your back injury, 501 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,319 your rib injury, that was why you were not in that fight, but 502 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,200 you watched from ringside. Uh And he did look vulnerable as you mentioned, 503 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,720 um. And you know in the fight before that, Oscar he struggled. 504 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,720 In his previous fight, he did stop Eduard obayezuh In in retaining the featherweight 505 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:18,839 belt. This is before he won the vacant belt that he took against Wilson 506 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,279 that you're fighting for coming up. Um, So that's two fights. No, 507 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,279 that was last August. He looked vulnerable again. He looked vulnerable in 508 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,559 the Liam Wilson fight. Maybe had some problems making the way that seemed like, 509 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880 so he does seem a little bit vulnerable, and I'm wondering that you 510 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,480 kind of think he's maybe there to be taken by somebody of your not only 511 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,759 your chin and your skills, but just your experience of I mean, you 512 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:44,960 really fought so many top fights and rough fights and you box guys, and 513 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:48,119 you know he's looked vulnerable. So I'm wondering, is he there to be 514 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,839 taken? Well, I'm if you make a mistaken the damn gonna take advatage 515 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,640 of that because I missed being a champion, missed being proud of myself. 516 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,680 I missed being being inside the ring as a champion, and I'm hunger than 517 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,759 everything out. Like I said, I'm not taking them lately because I've seen 518 00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:13,759 them fight before and it's very impressive to see somebody to go to the cabins 519 00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,200 and get up and continue fighting. That's what the record, that's what us 520 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:22,720 Mexican fighters are recognized for not giving up. So I'm expecting it the best 521 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,279 version of in because I'm coming with everything. Man. Just it's all or 522 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,640 nothing for me. I miss I missed, I miss just miss being a 523 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,400 champion. I would say winn Or Lewis, you should always be proud of 524 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,079 yourself because of the way you conduct yourself in the boxing ring. But one 525 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,839 thing about this fight, you know, is people expected to be, as 526 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,480 you mentioned, a real slug fest, you know, and I've heard, 527 00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:45,880 you know, Top rank has mentioned it. Lots of fans I mentioned it, 528 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,000 you know, they try to compare it to maybe what the burmer House 529 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,400 fight was like that disc could be something similar. Um, when you fought 530 00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:58,279 Miguel Burchelt in what was a very significant fighting in your career. This is 531 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:00,440 back in twenty twenty one. Fight was also mentioned. It's going to be 532 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:06,480 a total slug fast two Mexican warriors, very Barrera Morales like. But you 533 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,519 dominated Burtschell, you knocked him out. It wasn't at all like that. 534 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,119 You were just a you know, a one man band in there, just 535 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,720 taking care of business. Uh. Ten rounds, spectacular knockout to win that 536 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,920 fight, to win that title. Uh do you think that was your biggest 537 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,839 and best win because he kind of seemed like he almost basically ended Burchell's career 538 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,279 in a sense. He's fought one since then, but he has never been 539 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,960 the same. It was sad to hear that because I wish it. I 540 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:36,119 hope it's not true. He's the end of his career as a wish but 541 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,880 the best. But yeah, this could be one of those cases. It 542 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,880 could be one of those cases where it presents itself or being too to look 543 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680 better than them an opponent A lot of its times. You've got a lot 544 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,240 of cases in boxing, but they're considered a fifty to fifty, but when 545 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,519 they're so high level up, one looks ways appear that the other. We 546 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,440 just saw it with Terence Crawford and all Spence and that was a case with 547 00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,880 me, and I'll be appreciate weird soul up there that any little mistake, 548 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,640 I just you know, I just got I was the bigger man that that 549 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:08,320 night. And it couldn't be the case of this fight, you know, 550 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,280 because thus make fights. You know, if if it was working for me, 551 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,840 with the chance there was, it would have been it would have been 552 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,920 stupid of being to stay in there and baying with them to to give just 553 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,039 you know, to try to give a good fight. It ended up being 554 00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:27,320 a good fight because I ended up knocking them out. But it could be 555 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,199 one of thost cases of well I could out. I don't. If I 556 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,239 see any slight chance to take advantage of a fight win, I'm gonna take 557 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,599 it because, like I said, I just want to be a champion. 558 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,320 I want to be a champion. I missed that. I have to become 559 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,119 a champion because I just have to do it. When you had your you 560 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:45,719 know, you were not able to do the fight with him on February three. 561 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,639 You mentioned about the back injury, but you did come back in May 562 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,719 fought on the undercard of the Loma, Chenko and Haney event, and you 563 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,800 had a pretty one sided uh, you know, getting some good rounds. 564 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,239 Look good, frankly, fun fight to watch against Adam Lopez. In your 565 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,639 rematch, Uh, was everything okay? Are you? Are you good now? 566 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,880 Everything healthy wise? As far as that rib injury, back injury, 567 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,679 Yeah, the back injury is good, you know, and that you know 568 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,719 that fight. You know a lot of people were calling it. You know, 569 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,639 people can't call it another while you were calling it a tuna fight, 570 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,800 But for me, it wasn't a tuna fight. For me, it was 571 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,639 so it was a regular fight. Taking it very seriously because I know he 572 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,119 was training harder. One of the things that killed fighters the most is in 573 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,800 activity. This is what hurts fighters the most. So I was already a 574 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,000 year out of boxing. So I was like, man, I don't know 575 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,679 how I got react and started the ring. I just kept off thinking about 576 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960 that. But once I step in the ring, I felt good. You 577 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,360 know, you know, I fought, you know with Adam Lopez. You 578 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,039 know, we did We did his best, I did my best, and 579 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,840 I was at the end. I was trying to stop them, trying to 580 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,480 get the fast what they want. Yeah, I didn't get it, but 581 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,519 the most important thing was just be really good at side there, you know, 582 00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,840 and he says, okay, I'm back now. So it wasn't a 583 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,400 tuna fight from those regular files of fight that I had to take very seriously. 584 00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,480 But now it was just like, okay, my rig is okay, 585 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,039 everything's fine, Man's fine. Just go for the goal for the big one 586 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,360 now. I think the reason people refer to it today tuna fight is because 587 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,679 this fight between you and Navarette was already sort of on the books, but 588 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,599 you had to win that fight before it could happen. And obviously there's a 589 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,079 difference between fighting Adam Lopez and fighting for the world championship. So you understand 590 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,320 what people talk about that. You also mentioned earlier Oscar about suffering the loss 591 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,199 to Shakur. That's uh, that was May of last year. Uh. 592 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,000 Look, you know you were champion going in, he was a champion. 593 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,679 You guys put it on the line to unify the titles. Obviously, you 594 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,599 know he knocked you down, he came out on top, got the win. 595 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:37,840 Since then and other fights that he has had. Look, a lot 596 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,639 of people look at Shakur Stevenson. He's moved up now to lightweight. They 597 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:44,599 put him maybe on the pound for poundless partly because of the big win he 598 00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,239 had against you and how he looked against you. And now he's in a 599 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,639 position to fight for the vacant WBC title when it when it becomes vacant. 600 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,000 And I just wanted to know, you know, because he was your opponents. 601 00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:58,920 He's been in the news a lot. How good do you think Shakur 602 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:04,880 can become? And you faced him for twelve rounds? Think I think I 603 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,079 think he can become the next Floyd Mayweather. I wants a lot to say 604 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:14,199 right now because but if he stays discipline, the stays focused, he stays 605 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,679 in the gym, and you know, I see his spark in him. 606 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:20,920 I see his spark in him. Just looking for greatness. He always says 607 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,000 it. So I do believe he can become the next Floyd Mayweather, you 608 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:28,400 know, because his ring IQ is just I feel this is another level. 609 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,679 You know. It was very frustrating for me to work hard every day. 610 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,000 They do everything right. You die right, you work out, you know, 611 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,360 wake up early, you go to sleep early, you do you live 612 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,039 in Ashton. It's two or three months for this fight, and not even 613 00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,719 get close to shit his shots and the closest I got will just almost hit 614 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,039 him. So it was it was very frustrated to see that, and they 615 00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:53,000 just chold me what type of fighter he is, how much ring IQ he 616 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:57,960 has, what speed he gots? You know, he doesn't have a lot 617 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480 of power bell. I don't think it's because he and I try to believe 618 00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:04,480 you, because he doesn't try. He just tries to land that shot, 619 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,039 to just secure the rounds. He's a very smart fighter. So I do 620 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,199 visualize him. I do see him has become one of the greats. He 621 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,239 can become someone like Floyd, But it's all up to him. He's all 622 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,480 to him. Floyd was a very disciplined fighter, you know, stayed away 623 00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:24,719 from from all the drugs and alcohol and this that he stayed very focused on 624 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,239 him. I think if Kurt does that, I'll just say that he's doing 625 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,119 that. But if you were doing that and stay focused, I truly believe 626 00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:37,599 he can. You know, I don't see going maybe maybe in the one 627 00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:42,159 forties, maybe have it tougher, but right now I do see him as 628 00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,760 one of the best in one thirty five. Yeah, I definitely agree with 629 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,639 you about that. Um. You know, if you beat Navarette, you 630 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,199 win a second world title in the one hundred thirty pound weight class, to 631 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,199 be a three time world champion. I know that's important to you. But 632 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,039 I wonder, besides that, do you what kind of other goals do you 633 00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:59,960 have in boxing? I don't know. Do you have a desire to say 634 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:01,920 they also compete for a title at one hundred and thirty five? Do you 635 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,719 look at the possibility of unifications at one thirty if you can win this right, 636 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,320 because it does not you. Honestly, you and Navarette are the biggest 637 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,079 names in the division at this time. It seems like you're you know, 638 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,559 you have a bigger name, probably than than Navaretta. Does, So what 639 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:20,000 do you what do you look at for your future as we go forward here? 640 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:25,280 So the biggest price for me would would be something that that one of 641 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,559 the charlos have the Canelo has it, Gelfrey, would Jess Taylor, you 642 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:34,760 know, knowing only the guys are unified, you know, types of fury. 643 00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,039 I think that's the biggest, one of the biggest goals. So so 644 00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,079 of course, you know, not getting past this fight, you know, 645 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,159 but if you know also win this fight, you know, would love to 646 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,039 unify and become the biggest dreams have become a dispute the world champion. Then 647 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:55,719 that's the biggest goal for all fighters, and why not try maybe the future 648 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,039 one thirty five. I'm not getting any younger. I'm in a timement, 649 00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:06,679 right you know. Um, I consider me a small one thirty. I 650 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,079 won't be a way smaller than one thirty five. So I gotta I gotta 651 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:14,159 really think about it. I can't retire without trying it though. That's something 652 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,239 that I have to try no matter what. Going to one thirty five and 653 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,039 trying it out, testing the water is there. But right now my goals 654 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,239 are dominated to one thirty. Like I said, my goal, my biggest 655 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,400 goal right now would be I can become an undisputed world champion. That would 656 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,400 be that would in the world's needs, be that person. And they knew 657 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,480 why not? You know, one day and then I don't know if it's 658 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,639 one year, two years, whatever year, whatever time I got a boxing 659 00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,960 go up to one thirty five and test the water is there because it's a 660 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,679 lot of interesting fights over man, and it's like, uh, you know, 661 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,760 I want to one of my biggest goals to leave a good legacy in 662 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,480 life. You know, that's someone like Chavis who was three time in the 663 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:59,800 world champing three divisions is four times us hours was five times. You know, 664 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:07,559 ask HOI doing opposing six times? Um? If I retired today, 665 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,400 I don't do nothing in boxing. How could you really say that? I 666 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,519 mean, I was about to wrap up and I hear a fighter like yourself, 667 00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:17,480 who was an Olympian, who was a world champion of two weight classes, 668 00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:22,119 who fought some spectacular, exciting fights that people remember. I'll never forget 669 00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:27,920 the performance against Scott Quig for example, and uh, the spectacular knockout against 670 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,440 Burchelt as an underdog, which I picked by the way, Uh, how 671 00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:34,880 could you say you never accomplished anything. I don't get that, not that 672 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,559 I uncomplish nothing to deperson, but but but in the in the boxing world, 673 00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:43,599 ask about this race. So when you when when when they mentioned when 674 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:49,039 they mentioned basketball, do we always mentioned yeah, Lebron James obviously the Grays 675 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,280 too much. Majority when they mentioned boxing, you got Floyd where Muhammad Ali 676 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,079 colecting? What do you call these great fighters? And I'll pack it down 677 00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,639 to too smaller? Now you can Mexican fighters. So when you mentioned Mexican 678 00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:06,880 fighters, who got Travis? Now cannot what I list the Pinot Quests of 679 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,719 all scientists, you get all these big names. If I worked to that 680 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,639 right now, I'm not at that list right now. I gotta. I 681 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,400 gotta accomplish more things. I gotta, I gotta. I gotta try to 682 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,800 become disputed. I gotta go through another division and conquered another division three times. 683 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,840 There's a very few fighters who are three times world champions in different divisions 684 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,440 as Mexican fighters. So that's something that I have to try to accomplish, 685 00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:37,760 you know, because like I said, I said it's zero five five five 686 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,519 mirats today, certain people will remember remember me, not the whole boxing world. 687 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,800 Well, I'll remember you. Does that matter. I appreciate that. 688 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,199 I really replaced appreciate that. But and I get I get, you know, 689 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,760 every now and then I guess from love, from from from people who 690 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,400 tell me, you know what. I was there when you fought Scott Quig 691 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,840 and it was raining a lot of people. I stayed and they show me 692 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,280 pictures. Then for those people as like man, I really appreciate because you 693 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,280 were so hard to get some some type of recognition of you know, people 694 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,679 um recognize what you've done, you know, hard work. Nobody likes doing 695 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,599 the hard work about having done the having to appreciate what you did. So 696 00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:23,760 for all those people who are picking my career of ups and downs and been 697 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,400 with me and and enjoy my fights, you know, I truly, I 698 00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,199 truly appreciate all those people. Well, I've definitely been one of them over 699 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,800 these years. So I appreciate the fights. I appreciate your time. And 700 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,920 I'll just end up by saying best of luck for you in the fight with 701 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,039 Navarette, and I hope we get a good one. Thank you very much, 702 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,079 Oscar. Thank you you have to fight for sure. Appreciate it. 703 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,719 Good stuff, And I know you get a chance to speak with him and 704 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,280 see him, et cetera. And now we get ready for that fight week 705 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:59,320 next week. Top Rank Boxing and any ESPN will televise any any wrap up 706 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,719 thought, as we had to fight week of navaratte Valdez, no I just 707 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,639 expected to be a heck of a fight. I mean, as people listened 708 00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,480 to in our conversation, we spoke a little bit about the expectations that folks 709 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,599 had for a Marera Morales type collision when he fought they Gil Burtchelt, and 710 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,920 it did not develop into that at all because he totally dominated and squared a 711 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,239 spectacular knockout against Burtchelt. Many people think this is going to be another similar 712 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,440 kind of fight in this from the standpoint that it could be Barrera Morales alike 713 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:27,400 because of the fact that they fight like that they're both Mexicans and that sort 714 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000 of thing, and you know, hopefully it develops into a more competitive fight 715 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,519 than what happened with Burt Schelt. But this is a really good matchup. 716 00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:37,320 And you know, as people heard, like, you know, Neverets not 717 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,039 looks so great in his last couple of fights, and Valdez only has the 718 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,519 one loss to ship of course Stevenson, which was just a terrible style match 719 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,159 up. He looked good in my mind against Adam Lopez, and uh, 720 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,039 you know, I think he's got a good chance to take this title. 721 00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:50,800 We'll say. But one thing I can say, and I think it came 722 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,239 across the interview. I've always had a friendly relation with Oscar. He's a 723 00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:58,159 young, a really good guy. I know people got mad because he did 724 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,760 have the bad drug test and all that, you know, a few fights 725 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,840 ago, but uh, you know, I've always had a lot of respect 726 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,920 for the way he goes about his business. He just lets it all hang 727 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,719 out in the ring. He's a true warrior and and hopefully we'll see a 728 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,880 great fight, like we like to say that one could be sneaky good as 729 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:19,719 a firefight coming with sneaky good as in most most U boxing fans don't realize 730 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,880 that one's on the chart and it's coming next weekend in Arizona. Uh, 731 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,519 some fight news now, and then we're gonna hear more about our friends at 732 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:30,679 PPV dot com in a few moments. Okay, Hey, the WBO has 733 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,079 come up with a ruling late night Wednesday night into Thursday, as we tape 734 00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,800 this and release this overnight Thursday into Friday involving Tim Zoo and how they're going 735 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,599 to elevate him to the world champion status with Jamil Charlo getting ready to challenge 736 00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:47,400 Canelo Alvarez. All right, give me the explanation here on what's going on 737 00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:53,079 and U and the latest with Zoo officially going to become the WBO World Champion 738 00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:57,519 at junior middleweight. Yeah, I think that the WBO handled this the proper 739 00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,280 way. So what they're going to do is they're going to allow Charlo to 740 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:06,039 enter the ring as the WBO champion. He introduces the champion therefore will keep 741 00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,159 up with the hype which is going to be undisputed versus undisputed when he fights 742 00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:13,400 Canello, you know, being the super middaweight undisputed versus the junior midaweight undisputed. 743 00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:16,440 And when the bell rings, the title will be vacated and the interim 744 00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:20,000 champion, Tim Zoo, who's been waiting for this Charlo fight, had as 745 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,519 scheduled before was postponed, was postponed, whatever, he will be elevated to 746 00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:27,360 the champion. And that's the way boxing works. If you're not going to 747 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,119 fight your mandatory and the other guy wins the interim title. You basically look 748 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,519 back and when he won the interim title against Tony Harrison, who was a 749 00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:37,880 quid quality contender, former champion also in the WBC, that in essence became 750 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,119 the next title fight, and Tim Zoo will become the new champion of the 751 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,840 w BO. In terms of the one fifty four title. It's not a 752 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,079 surprise because even if he wasn't fighting Charlo, there was still a very strong 753 00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:52,400 unlilihood even he had fought Tim Zoo that after that, whoever was going to 754 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,239 be the winner would be unlikely to have kept all the belts intact. And 755 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:01,000 so unfortunately Charlo's championship reign as the undisputed champion, we'll end will have will 756 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:06,119 end having made zero defenses of the title, and but not the first time. 757 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:09,920 And I just hope that uh that that that Tim Zoo you know, 758 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,320 goes on and fights top guys. He seems like the kind of guy that 759 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,360 wants to fight the best competition. I hope that people don't get on his 760 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,320 case and call him an email champion, like those assholes will call Devin Haney 761 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,559 an email champion when the same thing. Zach situation occurred when Loma Chenko went 762 00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:30,599 for the Tiafimo Lopez fight and accepted the franchise title on his own request and 763 00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:34,800 vacated the real WBC title. This is the same exact situation. I don't 764 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,079 blame Charlo for taking on a big, huge money fight against Canelo, and 765 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,719 Tim Zoo is gonna benefit by being elevated. But it's not like he was 766 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,119 unwilling to fight Charlo. So he's not an email champion. He's the WBO 767 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,000 champion come September thirtieth. And by the way, this is also of note. 768 00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:52,119 If something happens and the September thirtieth fight between Tim Zoo, I mean 769 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:58,440 between Charlo and Canello is postpone or whatever, it doesn't happen, they'll still 770 00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:01,599 vacate the title and Tims will be And so what would be smart is Zoo 771 00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:07,840 gets in the ring listen to me playing matchmaker promoter in like October against somebody 772 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,239 as the world champion to defend, because now you're on the same timeline with 773 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,280 Jamil Charlo to fight him next. In particular, I know they don't want 774 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,400 to be negative, but if Charlo doesn't win against Canelo, he's already, 775 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,519 it's already basically been put out there. He's going to come back to one 776 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,960 fifty four and try to defend those titles. So the undisputed would still exist 777 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,800 potentially, well, it wouldn't exist unless it's a fight with Zoo, and 778 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,320 if and if Charlo gets stripped in the meantime of another belt. But I 779 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,599 mean that that Charlo fight could on the timeline be listen to me being optimistic 780 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,519 early next year something like that. If Zoo goes ahead and fights like around 781 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,320 October something like that, we'll see, we'll see what they elect to do. 782 00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:50,360 Even if even if Charlo came back to fifty four and fought Zoo, 783 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,119 it would be to become undisputed again because he entered the ring as technically and 784 00:48:54,320 --> 00:49:01,840 correct me no to be a unification provided that somebody else does not strip Charlo 785 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,960 in the meantime for not having fought, so we know how that works. 786 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,840 Also, speaking of Devin Haney, all right, so he got some good 787 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:15,039 news in terms of his court case and his felony charge on a concealed weapons 788 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,440 charge in Los Angeles for a gun being in the car that was dismissed officially 789 00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:23,639 on Thursday morning, in Los Angeles County Court. So again for Bill Haney, 790 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,559 the dad and the trainer. He said at the time back in July 791 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,880 three weeks ago, this is a misunderstanding. It'll get straightened out in court. 792 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:34,360 He was right for once. For once, we hear that it was 793 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,599 right. So there's a win out of the ring. And we did talk 794 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,599 on the recap podcast that it's looking like Regis program will be the opponent. 795 00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:46,239 Give me more on is the date firming up? We don't know late what 796 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,199 do we think? The bottom line is he is moving up to fight Regis 797 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,559 Progray at one hundred and forty pounds. It's not one hundred percent at the 798 00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:57,880 date that they're looking at Natural Mass said to me, although they told me 799 00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:01,920 specifically, it is not said in October twenty eighth for that matchup. It's 800 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:07,440 a good matchup and we'll see, I mean. Devin Haney went on the 801 00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:13,199 ESPN Plus card in Las Vegas dis passed Friday night, the night before the 802 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,039 fight between Crawford and Spence, and spoke about, you know, his reasons 803 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,639 to duty. Wants to be a two division champion. He wants to see 804 00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:21,960 how he feels at one hundred forty pounds. Remember, Devin Haney has been 805 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,679 making the lightweight limit since his amateur days, you know, and he's a 806 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,679 grown man now. It's it's been a long time coming to him for him 807 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,480 to take a shot at one forty. I can remember when nat Room Boxing 808 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,440 signed him a few years ago and they were getting ready to do their first 809 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,039 fight together. He spoke, I was at the press conference because it was 810 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:37,920 the day or day before one of the Canelo fights out there, and already 811 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,679 then he was already talking about moving up and that he might not be at 812 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,440 lightweight for a quite, you know, for a while. And that's like 813 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,320 probably six fights ago, maybe longer ago. So for him to take this 814 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,960 shot, and it's not like he's going in there to just fight own any 815 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,119 old hundred forty pounder. It's going in their fight Regius Program, who you 816 00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:55,840 know, his last performance against Zuri and notwithstanding is uh, you know, 817 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,760 without question, one of the best guys in the weight class in the sport. 818 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,000 I mean, you got Tiefemo Lopez the champion now after beating Josh Taylor, 819 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,320 you got Regis who's got the WBC belt. There's some other quality guys 820 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,400 out there, but he's not going up to wait to just fight and nobody. 821 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,440 He's fighting a really quality guy, and that should be an interesting fight. 822 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,280 I mean, a good style matchup. Regis is a heck of a 823 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,679 puncher, Devin's an outstanding boxer, and uh, you know, I like 824 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,599 the match, and hopefully, you know, they'll get it on and I'll 825 00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,639 get done. And then the question is what happens afterwards? If he wins, 826 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,679 I would imagine he's gonna stay at one forty, but there's also the 827 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,079 possibility perhaps he comes back and defends the belts, because they'll hang on to 828 00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:32,599 least some of those belts for the time being. But the main point is 829 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,159 that between one thirty five and one forty there's all kinds of good competition for 830 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,519 all these top guys. Now, wait a minute, I got I got 831 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:43,320 a squat at the underwear Ray feels Sunday night, when I'm merely brought up, 832 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,559 is he gonna come back and fight at lay? But You're like, 833 00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:47,960 no, No, Ray Feeling is underwear watching Star Wars Sunday night, which 834 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,119 is believing that he's gonna stay at one forty. So now, no, 835 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,639 no, I do believe he'll stay at one forty. But I'm just making 836 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,800 the point that the option will be there because they'll still have some of the 837 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,400 belts. So for the right fight, if he offered him the biggest money, 838 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,719 maybe he would do it. I don't think so, but you never 839 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,199 say never. It is boxing, after all, and so what it does 840 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,599 is it puts with him staying or not staying, but going to one hundred 841 00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:15,880 and forty to fight the fight against Regis program. It means that the WBC 842 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,320 they made him the champion in recess, so his undisputed status is now gone, 843 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,239 but he would have the in the champion in recess, which means he 844 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,400 has the option to challenge for the WBC title in his fight after a program. 845 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,800 In the meantime, they will order shakoorse Stevenson, who is the current 846 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,920 mandatory. They'll go into their ratings. I'm not sure the next guy is. 847 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,880 They'll order Shakor to fight the next available contender for the vacant title, 848 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,880 and that will probably happen sometime in November, and it still leaves open the 849 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,960 possibility either at one thirty five at one forty eventually, because I do think 850 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,639 this fight will happen at some point between Devin Hany and Shakurse Stevenson, which 851 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,679 was a which would be a you know, not a war, not a 852 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,679 super battle, not a Barrera Morales fight, but a one hell of a 853 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,599 box match between two great boxers, you know, guys who really know the 854 00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:07,760 sweet science and know whether how to get around the ring. Shakor is a 855 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,960 superb boxer and you know Devin Hinny's not too far behind in my estimation. 856 00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:14,480 So that's you know, as I've said to you, whenever you have an 857 00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,599 undisputed champion and there's mandatories at stake, and guys you're looking for the biggest 858 00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:21,800 fight and they don't necessarily want to do this mandatory that mandatory for different reasons. 859 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,280 You know, it takes a little bit of time, and we're watching 860 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,280 it unfold before our eyes. It's happening at lightweight with what's happening with Devin, 861 00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,639 It's happening as we just talked about with Charlow at junior middlewey, these 862 00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:35,920 are good problems that have because it means you're finding unified speed a chance. 863 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,440 All right, good on that, and again we're gonna hear more about PPV 864 00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:42,119 dot com and some nostalgia in a couple of moments all right, so we've 865 00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,920 been giving cheery news. Now we got a downer arder Betterbev has got an 866 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:51,079 injured jaw, an infected jaw, and so that is put that that's a 867 00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:55,119 rare injury. To hear he's not able to fight Callum Smith coming up here 868 00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:58,880 in August. That fight is now off. Give me a little more on 869 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,679 what else you found out about that that's a doubter. Well, it's all 870 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,119 for the time being, it's going to be rescheduled. I mean they're talking 871 00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,559 about maybe having it in November. It's all going to depend on the health 872 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,039 of Arthur Betterbiev. Apparently from what I was talking to the folks at the 873 00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:13,320 top rank about, he had to go have a tooth extracted, like you 874 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,119 know, you had some problem with it whatever in your tooth. He got 875 00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:19,840 the tooth taken out, which would not normally have been any kind of issue, 876 00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,559 and be when that tooth was taken out, there was the situation that 877 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,639 unfolded after that as he wound up with a infection in his bone in his 878 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,679 job because of the extraction, which sounds kind of gross and kind of serious 879 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,079 and puts him on the shelf for a bit. So this mandatory defense against 880 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,760 Callum Smith, which I was really looking forward to, was supposed to be 881 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:44,119 August nineteenth, and Quebec City has been postponed and hopefully he'll heal up quickly 882 00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:46,519 and they can reschedule it. I was told if he's better, they're looking 883 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:51,039 at November for that fight, but there's always the possibility that he won't be 884 00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,000 ready to go and it may end up being pushed into the earliest part of 885 00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:57,920 next year. So hopefully he'll be able to recover quickly and we'll get this 886 00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:00,599 fight on because if he's not fighting an undisputed fight against the meet your b 887 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,000 ball, it's probably like the next best fight you can make in the division. 888 00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:07,800 Callum Smith has looked very good since he's moved up and wait, and 889 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,800 I thought I was looking forward to that fighting. And again I've had wisdom 890 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,320 teeth out. I don't know about you, but there's always a risk of 891 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,079 infection. And by the way, if your jaws infected, you don't need 892 00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:20,320 to be getting hit in your jaw common sense, you're savages. That's no 893 00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:25,000 fun. Moving on on the news, we get an undisputed women's junior welterweight 894 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:30,239 rematch upcoming that's officially announced for November. We gotta wait a little bit, 895 00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:35,519 but Chantel Cameron Katie Taylor is going to happen again November twenty fifth, back 896 00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:37,800 in the three Arena in Dublin, Ireland, Katie's home area, same place 897 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,880 where they fought their first fight. That was absolutely spectacular, tremendous fight that 898 00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:47,199 took place in May, Katie's long awaited homecoming fight, and Chantel Cameron went 899 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,719 in there as the underdog and in a tremendous battle. I mean, and 900 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,400 maybe it wasn't quite the level of the Serrano and Katie Taylor fight that we've 901 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,119 discussed, but it was one heck of a fight. And you know, 902 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,960 Katie got beat that night. She lost a close call to Cameron. It 903 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,360 wasn't like a blowout, but she lost, and she had the right to 904 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,360 the rematch. She exercised that right. The rematch will take place November twenty 905 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,440 fifth. Remember, she's still being disputed champion in the lightweight division, but 906 00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:13,079 she's now going to have her second consecutive fight in the Junior Wealth the right 907 00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:16,400 division China to win that title and also avenged a loss. So there's definitely 908 00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:21,159 some big stakes there for for everybody given that you never want to lose two 909 00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:23,079 in a row. And you know Katie the Katies and had the pressure on 910 00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:27,159 back at home and another big fight. And as we keep saying, I 911 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,239 realize you and I are in the United States, this is a big deal 912 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,599 in Ireland. She is a big deal. She's not the biggest star of 913 00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:36,719 all sports and item, but she is a big deal and so this is 914 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,199 the rematch for her and we'll see how it goes there. Now, you 915 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:45,559 did mention while somewhat clothed in the hotel while we were doing the recap about 916 00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:50,519 Leewood and Josh Warrington that has now been made official by match Room later in 917 00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:55,000 the week, and the undercard fight a reschedule for Terry Harper and Cecilia break 918 00:56:55,039 --> 00:57:00,280 Who's is also going to have to give us more on this fighting of these 919 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,119 top women are fighting each other. I mean, it's it's happening in the 920 00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,320 men's side of sport, but it seems much more easy to do and much 921 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,760 more regular in terms of women's boxing. So Harper, remember she was supposed 922 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,519 to fight Cecilia breck Whus, who was the long time pound for pound number 923 00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:16,599 one woman's boxer. She had been the undisputed welterweight champion for a long long 924 00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:22,320 time. They were supposed to fight and on the undercard when Chantel Cameron and 925 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,480 Katie Taylor had their fight back in May, and on the morning of the 926 00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:29,440 fight, brek Whus was ill when she woke up and had to pull out 927 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,760 of the fight, which was a disappointment for everybody. So they have rescheduled 928 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,920 that fight. So Harper roll now fighter on October seventh. It will be 929 00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:42,039 for Terry's WBA Women's one hundred and fifty four pound title as well as the 930 00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:45,760 vacant WBO title, So it's an opportunity for her to become a unified champion 931 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,760 and also a chance for Cecilia to win a title two titles in the second 932 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,039 weight division. Look, Harper's twenty six years old. She's fighting very well. 933 00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:58,079 She's fourteen one and one and she's been in good form. She was 934 00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:00,840 a former champion at one hundred thirty pound. She did the thing that's sort 935 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,840 of rare, she moved up in multiple weight classes all at once. And 936 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,000 Cecilia it's thirty seven and two with nine knockouts, but she's forty one and 937 00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:09,840 not getting in the younger and has had a long career. Keep in mind 938 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,320 she held that title, the welterweight title either. You know, she first 939 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,840 won the belts, two of them at once, and then became on the 940 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:21,800 street. But she held a welterweight title from two thousand and nine to two 941 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,039 thousand and twenty. And even when she lost the fight and the belts to 942 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,440 Jessica McCaskill in their first fight, that was a very close fight and a 943 00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:34,559 lot of people thought that Cecilia was the rightful winner. She did legitimately lose 944 00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:38,039 in their rematch, but nonetheless, she's been an outstanding fighter for a long 945 00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:42,280 time. I feel very confident I say this, CJ. Whatever happens between 946 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,840 break House and and Terry Harper, when it's all said and done, Cecilia 947 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,599 breck House is going to sail into the International Boxing Hall of Fame on the 948 00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:53,840 first battlet she should, and she did. One of the top probably four 949 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,559 three, four five women's boxers of all time. And I'm confident saying that 950 00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:02,360 she won what twenty five I've title fights in a row at welterweight. I 951 00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:07,039 feel very confident in saying this. I always joke with you, You've got 952 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,599 to be careful of words like always, be careful, don't say the word 953 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,719 never be as those are permanent. Be careful of the phrase I love you, 954 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,519 savages, peeps, just be careful of these words. I am confident 955 00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:21,480 in saying to you, You're not ever going to see somebody win twenty five 956 00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:25,480 title fights in a row in the same division, men's or women's. Again, 957 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,400 that is remarkable that she could make weight, would care to continue to 958 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,000 do it for eleven years and twenty five title defenses in one division. I 959 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,440 don't think you'll see that anymore. Listen, you can't compare men's boxing in 960 00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:40,960 women's body. I understand that from the history of the sport, right because 961 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,719 of how long women's box or how long men's boxing has been around, the 962 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,320 depth of the sport compared to the depth in the women's side of things. 963 00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:53,039 But just on the raw numbers, just on the stats, that's the same 964 00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:57,360 number of title defenses, which is the all time men's record that Joel Lewis 965 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,440 made in win's boxing and was considered you know, either him or Muhammad Ali 966 01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:04,679 is the greatest heavyweight of all time. So she's in good company, is 967 01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:07,199 the point I'm making, And she's got a chance to win a second world 968 01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,800 title. And on the analogy before the savages lose their mind, a heavyweight 969 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,880 can weigh a few pounds more or you know, significantly more because you're a 970 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,000 heavyweight. She made one forty seven for what did you say, eleven years 971 01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:22,480 of championship fights. That's incredible in and of itself. It's Bernard Nono darna 972 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,840 Air making bantam weight for that long. At that Bernard Hopkins made twenty middleweight 973 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,519 title defenses and made a hundred pounds for all those years. So some people 974 01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:36,840 put a premium on this guy went from one weight class to the next, 975 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,920 the next, the next, and kept moving up and winning belts and doing 976 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,159 damage as they moved up to scale. People like Oscar Daloy won titles and 977 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,960 six weight divisions a man to Toronto as a female boxer has done it in 978 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,320 seven weight classes, although she's gone up and come down nanny pack of course, 979 01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:53,519 in the men's side of things, winning the record titles and eight different 980 01:00:53,519 --> 01:01:00,280 weight classes from from flyweight all the way to junior to junior middleweight. So 981 01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:05,280 that's that's hard to do also, But I find there's something refreshing and interesting 982 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,679 about somebody that for years and years and years can just stay solid, make 983 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:14,199 that weight constantly every single time, and just wipe out an entire generation of 984 01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:17,519 fighter division, which is what Cecilia did, what Bernard Hopkins did, and 985 01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:22,199 what others. Marvin Hagler. Nobody bitches and moans that Marvin only fought his 986 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,159 hulker as a middleweight. Nobody says, well, you know, he's he's 987 01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:28,039 not that good because he never went up and tried to win the title at 988 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,079 super middlewaich really didn't exist when he was still boxing her light heavyweight. I 989 01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:34,840 mean, it's it's ridiculous. Both of them are impressive. You can stay 990 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,480 in one weight class for an extended period and be great, or you can 991 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:40,639 skip over and move up and down and win a bunch of titles against good 992 01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:45,159 opponents. Also, that's impressive also, so what she's done is impressive. 993 01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:47,119 And this is like going to be I think her first fight as a full 994 01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:52,079 fledged junior middleweight. So she's still has made weight even for non title fights. 995 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,480 She's made one hundred and forty seven or close to it, and now 996 01:01:54,519 --> 01:01:57,599 she's going for the titles at one fifty four. So I wish her luck. 997 01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:00,440 She's a nice woman and she's a hell of a fighter. Good enough, 998 01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:06,000 let's get to some more about the Paul Diaz fight than some nostalgia momentarily, 999 01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:09,840 as we roll on, as promise is going to tell you more about 1000 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:15,440 one of our sponsors, PPV dot com. It is the only North American 1001 01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:21,840 streaming outlet that does not require a subscription that will be offering jig Paul Nate 1002 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:27,440 Diaz from Dallas this weekend, and the executive vice president of Programming and Marketing, 1003 01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:30,920 Mark Brocardi, is back with us again to tell us a little more 1004 01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:32,400 about that. Good to be back with you, my friend, because we 1005 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,760 were just around each other out at Crawford Spence in Las Vegas. And here 1006 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,599 we are right back again on PPV dot Com with another big time event. 1007 01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:44,920 First of all, good to see you in person. Good to have you 1008 01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:47,840 here as part of our podcast coverage on Big Fight Weekend. How are things 1009 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,000 as we roll into a new week and a new event. Yeah, thanks 1010 01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:54,440 for having me back. Things are great. It's rare that you have two 1011 01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:59,880 big events, much less two big pay per views on back to back weekend, 1012 01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:04,320 and we have at this time. So we're thrilled to have both and 1013 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,519 there's room plenty of room under the tent for both events, so we think 1014 01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:10,960 it's going to be another big night on Saturday Night, no doubt. We 1015 01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:15,079 have been asking everybody their take. I did not get a chance to get 1016 01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:19,559 your take after what happened. How surprised were you? I think, like 1017 01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:22,039 the rest of us, that it was so much a one sided, really 1018 01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:25,320 beat down by Terence Crawford in that fight. Put the fight fan hat on 1019 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,679 for a second. How surprised were you? Like the rest of us, 1020 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:34,519 I was very surprised. You know, I had Spence winning round one by 1021 01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:37,760 slight margin, but you know, not not convincingly, but I had him 1022 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:43,079 up on the scorecard and that was it. After that, it was complete 1023 01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:49,280 and total domination by Terence Crawford. And you know, I give Crawford all 1024 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,599 the props in the world. He seemed to be the harder puncher, he 1025 01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,960 seemed to be faster, he seemed to have better to beat defense. Nothing 1026 01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:00,719 that Spence was throwing seemed to affect Crawford at all. So it was just 1027 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,480 complete and total domination. Just kudos to Crawford for a really outstanding performance, 1028 01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:08,280 no doubt. And I've gone so far as to say, from what I 1029 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,480 have seen now, including in personal the other night, I believe he could 1030 01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:15,199 have competed with Leonard Hearns, Hagler, Duran and the Kings. I don't 1031 01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:18,320 know if you want to join in on that. And the only other fighter 1032 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:24,599 I would say in these weight classes and in the eras since forty years ago. 1033 01:04:24,679 --> 01:04:28,639 I'm getting that old Mark was maybe Oscar dal la Joya that I would 1034 01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:30,719 have said could have competed with those guys. I think Bud Crawford could have 1035 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,159 competed with those guys. Just real quick, one more time. You're gonna 1036 01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,119 go along with me on that. I am with the way he looked on 1037 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:41,679 this past Saturday night against Arrow Spence. Absolutely agree. Couldn't agree more. 1038 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,320 Love it all right. And by the way, for the fans, you 1039 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,480 need to hook up on PPV dot com because you get a fantastic opportunity to 1040 01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:51,880 be part of their interactive coverage. And the other night, Dan Kenobio and 1041 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,639 Chris al Jerry we're doing a special kind of live chat interactive thing with the 1042 01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:00,719 fans. You do those kind of events all the time with PPB dot com. 1043 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,039 Tell me more about that. I know it went very well last week 1044 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:06,559 but these are the kind of features that fans are going to get with PPB 1045 01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:11,400 dot com. Yeah they are. And the whole idea with PPB dot com 1046 01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:15,559 is we want to make it more of a communal watch experience. So if 1047 01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:17,679 you're watching, you can choose, you know what, it might be fun 1048 01:05:17,719 --> 01:05:23,719 to interact with some of these industry journalists or former boxers, current boxers, 1049 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,880 and that was the idea behind Dan and Chris. We also had Lance Pugmeyer, 1050 01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:32,880 you know, legendary boxing writer hosting the chat as well, and he 1051 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,480 did a great job. Lance is actually going to be back for this weekend 1052 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,639 as well with Paul Diaz, so that's something to look forward to. So 1053 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,760 yeah, the interactive chat is just a fun way for fans to chat with 1054 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,599 each other, chat with the hosts, and make it a more engaging experience 1055 01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:48,599 while you watch the fun hodubt. So like when that moment when M and 1056 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,480 M walked out in the arena, unknown to any of us, in front 1057 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,039 of Terrence Kawford. Now you got the immediate reaction right there on PPB dot 1058 01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,559 com, Oh my god, that is actually M and M coming to the 1059 01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:01,119 ring. But yeah, it's fun and you know, we can we can 1060 01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:04,519 track the you know, the engagement levels during an event where things are getting 1061 01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:08,159 hot with a lot of chatter, where things cooled down a little bit. 1062 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,440 Eminem was was one of the peaks, uh at, you know, and 1063 01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:15,119 then from like I said before round two, through the end, through the 1064 01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,960 finish, everything was just on fire with how strong Crawford looked, no doubt. 1065 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:25,320 All right, let's segue at Jake Paul obviously a very prominent popular social 1066 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,000 media, YouTube star, etc. He has had a boxing startup to his 1067 01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:34,079 career. It got it got kind of derailed with the loss to Tommy Fury. 1068 01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:38,760 Well, now he is back. He is fighting a former UFC champion, 1069 01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:42,920 an MMA star in Nate d As. These two guys genuinely do not 1070 01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:45,760 like each other. Tell me more about the build up for this in Dallas, 1071 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,320 with Jake Paul's return and Nate Daz his debut in a boxing ring. 1072 01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:53,440 Yeah, so I think you're right. I think you know, Jake had 1073 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,719 a little bit of a blemish with his loss to Tommy Fury, But at 1074 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,840 the same time, I think he took the loss really well, which was, 1075 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,679 Hey, I got beat. I'm a boxer, I'm an up and 1076 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,480 coming boxer. I'm gonna take losses, so let me try to continue on 1077 01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:10,239 my journey. I don't think Jake Paul had to keep going undefeated in order 1078 01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:14,760 to be considered a fairly legitimate boxer. Listen, could he compete with a 1079 01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:18,320 top you know boxer, you know, absolutely not, but I think he 1080 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,960 would admit that. I also don't buy into, by the way, the 1081 01:07:23,679 --> 01:07:28,039 narrative that Jake Paul and these other social media fights are bad for boxing. 1082 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,199 I do believe strongly, and we see the data to back it up. 1083 01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:34,119 It does bring in a whole new type of audience to the sport. So 1084 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,719 anytime we're going to get a Jake Paul fight, we're excited. I think 1085 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,480 with this fight this weekend against Nate Diaz. The great thing about Nate, 1086 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,440 Nate doesn't give a hoot about anything, right. Nate goes in there and 1087 01:07:46,639 --> 01:07:49,239 he's just like, you know what, I'm just gonna go after this and 1088 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:54,320 whatever happens happens. And sometimes that's the most dangerous guy, the guy that 1089 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,880 doesn't. Karen doesn't have anything to lose. And my hand is up because 1090 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,480 I was in the building for the Jake Paul knockout of Tyron Woodley, here 1091 01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:06,199 in Tampa and it was full. It was nineteen thousand plus. It was 1092 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:11,840 a younger crowd and there was a lot of heat against Jake Paul. There 1093 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,159 was a lot of booing when he came to the ring, which was wild. 1094 01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:18,640 So we'll see what we get in Dallas on Saturday. For this it's 1095 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,199 kind of a love hate thing and he's got a booming right hand, there's 1096 01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:27,640 no doubt about that. One more time, Mark Boccardi promote about PPV dot 1097 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,560 com, your interactive experience and why we want the fans to order with you 1098 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:36,359 for this week PPB dot com. No subscription necessary, nothing else to sign 1099 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,159 up for. Come get a free account, buy what you want, don't 1100 01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:45,319 buy. It's your prerogative, but there's no subscriptions needed. So that's that's 1101 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,960 great, easy way to get it. And then once you're in and you 1102 01:08:48,079 --> 01:08:51,039 buy an event, we know you're going to have the best experience on PPB 1103 01:08:51,159 --> 01:08:58,720 dot com with signal quality, streaming quality as well as your interactive opportunity if 1104 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,199 you want to take advantage of that, so PPB dot com is going to 1105 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:03,079 be your best way to watch, no doubt, Love this man, love 1106 01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:06,119 the insight. Thank you so much for continuing to hang with us on big 1107 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:10,000 fight we get on the podcast, on the website. We look for more 1108 01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:14,680 big things in the sport and more big things being shown on PPV dot Com. 1109 01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:16,720 Mark Boccardi, thank you. Let's see what we get with Paul and 1110 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,640 Diaz. Thank you for hanging with me once more. Thanks t J. 1111 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,960 Look forward to doing it again. Great stuff, and again we thank those 1112 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,640 guys for sponsoring us as PPV dot com has been doing. If you're gonna 1113 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,960 watch Paul and Diaz, that's what we recommend. Nostalgia time before we're done. 1114 01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:35,239 Okay, great piece of nostalgia. There was twenty six years ago that 1115 01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:42,960 Roy Jones avenged his disqualification loss and how with a first round knockout of Montelle 1116 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,199 Griffith Griffin. Remember he had hit Griffin while Griffin was on the canvas and 1117 01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:51,119 got DQ came back and knocked him out for real Dan Raphael on August the 1118 01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:57,640 seventh, So that anniversary is a Monday, nineteen ninety seven, But you 1119 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,279 want to focus on another fight that was the two two thousand and seven fight 1120 01:10:00,399 --> 01:10:09,279 of the year, Israel Vasquez Wafael Marquez. This anniversary actually coming on Friday, 1121 01:10:09,359 --> 01:10:14,720 as we released the podcast tell Me More About that WBC Junior Featherweight title 1122 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,479 fight sixteen years ago. These guys fought four times overall, Vasquez and Marquez 1123 01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:25,840 we kind of try to ignore and disassociate from. The fourth fight is kind 1124 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:30,880 of like disavowing it, like we disabout what the star Trek five and Rocky 1125 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,560 five. I mean, yeah, he said grease grease too. It's just 1126 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:40,000 so utterly forgettable that it was just a disacliming that it should never really happened. 1127 01:10:40,039 --> 01:10:43,479 But suffice it to say, their first three fights were all time, 1128 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,800 action packed fights. The second fight and the third fight were their years Fight 1129 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,479 of the Year two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight. And if 1130 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,479 the only reason that the first fight wasn't the fight of the year also was 1131 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,880 because it took place in the same calendar year as the first fight, So 1132 01:10:59,319 --> 01:11:01,640 yet bona fight. Fight of the years really could have been three it with 1133 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,359 just a few months difference that had been in the previous year the first fight, 1134 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,479 but when they met in the rematch, you know, it was like 1135 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,439 the first fight just balls to the wall, all out action. Third fights 1136 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,560 probably the best of the three actually, but in that particular fight. The 1137 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,279 second one that we're talking about, Israel Vasquez stopped Rafael Marquez, who was 1138 01:11:17,319 --> 01:11:23,039 inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame just a few months ago in June in 1139 01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:27,880 the rematch to regain the WBC's junior featherweight title. In that just an all 1140 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,279 action fight. He had lost to Marquez in the t marquees in the first 1141 01:11:32,319 --> 01:11:36,119 fight, which was also tremendous. These were all four of their fights were 1142 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:41,600 on showtime, and you know, one of the one of my regrets. 1143 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,279 As many fights as I have been to, as many fights as I have 1144 01:11:44,399 --> 01:11:47,159 traveled for all around this country, some fights internationally, I've got a chance, 1145 01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:53,199 and I've seen Rafael and Israel fight other fights in person for different reasons, 1146 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,680 I never was at any of their fights against each other. Amazingly enough, 1147 01:11:58,079 --> 01:12:00,319 a matter of fact, on the night that this fight that we're talking 1148 01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:04,079 about took place on August fourth, two thousand and seven, I was I 1149 01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:05,960 just because I could. I knew. I was like, I knew there 1150 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,800 was a reason I didn't go to that fight, and I looked up on 1151 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,880 box wreck to see where the heck I was on that night, and as 1152 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,720 it turns out, I was in Rosemont, Illinois that night, covering David 1153 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:23,520 Diaz against Eric Moralis for when David Diaz had won and became the WBC's lightweight 1154 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,439 champion that night, and there were some other you know, title fights and 1155 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,199 other guys on that car. So I went to to Rosemont to cover that 1156 01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:33,479 pay per view and the other fight took place on showtime. But just an 1157 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:39,840 absolutely fantastic battle between them, and I don't think that trilogy, we'll call 1158 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,000 it a trilogy. Even though they did have that fourth fight, it doesn't 1159 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:47,039 get to kind of love that Marrera Morales gets that that uh Gaddy and Ward 1160 01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:50,479 gets that Riddick bow and a Vander Holyfield gets. I mean, but these 1161 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,960 are every bit as good in terms of just the pure action and just violence 1162 01:12:55,039 --> 01:12:59,600 and just drama and you know, blood and knockdowns and heart and will and 1163 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,760 a reason why it's the fight of the year peeps from two thousand and seven. 1164 01:13:03,039 --> 01:13:08,119 That's what is saying that was that was a truly great fight to second 1165 01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:11,960 fight, and uh, like I said, my one of my I you 1166 01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:15,560 know, I'm never gonna not be appreciative of all the fights I've gotten a 1167 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,800 chance to be ringside for. But you know, what if I had to 1168 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,119 like say, what's what's the disappointment? It's like, you know what, 1169 01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:23,680 I can't believe I didn't get to go to any of the three fights between 1170 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,479 Marquez and Vasquez, but both warriors and tremendous fights. Tremendous from you. 1171 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,239 We have come to the conclusion of another preview again at Jake Paul Nate Diaz 1172 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,359 in Dallas, and again we thank our friends at PPV dot com for sponsoring 1173 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,720 us. Also Tickets Smarter as well. If you're going to the fight one 1174 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,760 more time, do it with Tickets Smarter. Use that for the secondary market, 1175 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,039 use our promo code Fight twenty three and get five percent off your order 1176 01:13:51,079 --> 01:13:54,199 of three hundred dollars or more. 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