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You're listening to KFI AM six forty
on demand. John, Welcome to the

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Jesus Christ Show. Yes, Jesus, I was wondering, how do you

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deal with infidelity? Here's someone someone
cheated on you? Yes, sir?

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How long? How long has it
been found out? A week ago?

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I don't know for sure how long
it lasted. She tells me it was

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a short term thing. We've been
together for two years. I've asked to

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be my wife, and now I
don't know if I even love her.

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Well, your emotions are going to
tell you that you don't. But emotions

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change. That's why subjective and objective
truth should often be separated. A lot

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of people get wrapped up in what
they feel versus the truth of the situation.

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If you love her and you experienced
something with her and you want to

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share that, you have to look
at this as a as a huge red

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flag. Did she explain to you
as to why she had this affair?

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It was what the guy that she
knew before we got together. She says,

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there's no feeling for him whatsoever.
I know that she was abused repeatedly

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as a child, and because of
that, has incorrect associations with sex.

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And acceptance, and I am gone
frequently due to my job. And he

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called she she put that she was
at a weak moment, although I know

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that sometimes she had to have called
him as well. And I mean,

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she's she swerves that she's sorry and
not sorry she got caught, but sorry.

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And right now we're in a situation
of trying to decide if we want

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to try to figure it out.
Well, I think you're at a safe

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place to make that distance now.
It doesn't sound good. There's a very

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cynical statement that says that men fake
love to get sex and women fake sex

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to get love. Very cynical and
not true. However, it does point

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out the differences that men and women
experience sex differently, and in a case

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like this, for her to say
that she had sex but she didn't care

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about him is a strange thing for
a woman to say. That doesn't mean

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that it doesn't exist. There are
women that have had sex that don't really

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care about the individual per se.
But that's a strange sign for a woman

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that there is a disconnect with her
physical sexuality and her intellect and her emotion.

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And that's that's a pretty good sign
that the experiences that she's had before,

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have set themselves up and are manifesting
in a way where she is acting

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out on them and you don't want
to be a part of that. You

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want to kind of separate yourself from
that. And this is one of those

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situations where I'd say a breakup is
an order, and that not about judging

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her or making her feel ugly,
but maybe recommending that she gets some secondary

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help, some counseling, some therapy, something where she can figure out why

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she acted out in that way.
If she's fearful, maybe she knows that

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you're gonna ask her to marry you, or she's fearful of something. Whatever

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it is, it's not a good
sign. And my biggest fear, John,

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is that you're gonna call me in
a couple of years now married going

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through the same thing with her.
So I hope you heed my words.

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It doesn't make her a bad person. It just means she's not ready.

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There's a big difference between being single
and being available, and she may be

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single but not available under the circumstance, and keep that in mind that she

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might not be a good match for
you. And it sounds at this point

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not a way to start the marriage. Every time I get somebody calling in

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about a bad marriage situation, every
single time, you can trace it back

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to some knowledge prior of something that
didn't sit right. Yet somebody pushed through

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it just because of the feeling or
the emotion of love. So count your

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blessings, John, and that you
found out now and thank God for that.

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And don't judge her or make her
feel ugly. It's not about that.

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It's just something you don't want to
participate in and move on. David,

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Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Hello Jesus. Hi, David,

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I had a question I'm faith for
you. Please recently last week I lost

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my employer after twenty years. A
couple of years before I was diagnosed with

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an illness that had affected the job. And about a year before that,

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I lost the marriage of eighteen years. That was totally unexpected. No boy,

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And I'm trying to hold on to
my faith, but I'm getting rattled

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and I'm not seeing an end.
I'm seeing darkness. And David, I've

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always been as a very spiritual person, but it's getting or herder every day.

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Well, I'm curious as to the
statement you made about that you were

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surprised about the loss of your marriage
in what way. There was no infidelity,

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there was no arguing. My wife
of eighteen years decided she just didn't

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want to be married anymore, and
that was the only That's what she gave

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you. She didn't say that it
was dull, boring. There was no

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life in the marriage. There was
no connection, you know, because because

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you know, no arguing sounds like
a plus, but really isn't. I

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mean, we argued in the marriage, and we we're always best friends,

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and we always had a good marriage. We both always said we had a

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good marriage. But just in a
matter of months I had noticed a change

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where it was she was very independent
and trying to understand how we were and

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how the last month had changed.
Started the arguing did you marry very young?

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No? Twenty four, twenty five
young by today's standards, but not

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terribly young, right? And how
long were you married? Eighteen years?

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Eighteen years? And she just was
done? And what kind of lifestyle is

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she living now? Do you have
any contact with her? Yes, I

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have two children, so we have
some contact, not much at all,

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you know, she's just out in
Parian and having a good time. M

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Nothing that I've ever been used to. Yeah, those things usually are are

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quite synonymous with somebody who marries young. It happens both male female, but

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mostly women kind of experience that.
David, I'm gonna ask you to hold

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on because I want to talk to
you about faith when we return a little

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bit more, and how it pertains
to circumstances, and how it doesn't pertain

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to circumstances we were chatting with,
David. You're still there, David,

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Hi, David, there, you
are okay, excellent. Now, you

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went through some trials, you lost
your wife, to divorce, your job,

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There's a lot of things coming at
you. But your faith cannot stand

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on circumstances. It just won't work. You can't, For instance, if

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things are the way you say,
there's no reason leave otherwise. But what

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you're saying about your wife kind of
falling out of love means that she kind

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of built her house of love upon
circumstances and woke up one day and said,

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those circumstances have changed. I no
longer love you. It's not the

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way it works. Love is a
decision. It's something you decide to do.

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I know that's terribly unromantic by some
standards, But that's the truth.

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You decide to love somebody and to
for better and for worse, for sickness

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and health and all of these things. You make that oath before God.

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She went against that and threw it
out the window and said, no,

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I want to party. You want
to do what I want to do,

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and I don't want to be bound
to anything. Right, that's kind of

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like what you'd be saying to me
if you toss it in because times are

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tough, Does that make sense and
make a decision. Yeah, it's something

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you decide based on. In scripture, it says and he was eleven to

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one. Now, faith is the
substance of things hoped for, the evidence

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of things not seen, And the
word evidence there, interestingly enough, really

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translate can be translated as proof or
proving. So in this case, you're

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you're looking forward to the possibilities of
what's before you. Faith meaning firm persuasion.

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In this particular case, this word, this magic word, shows up

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some three hundred and seven times in
the New Testament, the word faith.

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So in your particular case, John
David, rather, I want you to

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focus in and have the heart of
John and the love of John, and

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be somebody who looks forward towards the
things that haven't happened in your life yet,

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the good things. But know that
you can't circumstantially just look and say,

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well things are bad now, therefore
I've lost my faith. That's not

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where faith is. It needs to
stand on the things that you believe truly

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in your heart. Michael, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show. Hey Jesus,

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I am Michael. I am well, how are you? I'm good?

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What's going on? My father has
always he's always on the Bible very

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well, the concordance, the Jewish
text, all aspects. Okay, growing

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up, everything always ended up going
to God, and I can never talk

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to him as a real person or
get real answers. For example, recently

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I asked about buying a car,
what kind of info you know? Can

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you help me? And he says, we'll sit in and get the feel

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and pray ask God about what the
previous driver was like. So my question

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is, does God have to be
included in all aspects of life? Is

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that the correct layer? Is it
possible? Are you supposed to have a

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half and half so you can have
a real relationship here and enjoy life or

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does it all have to be praising
and living for God? Well both are

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wrong actually because in a sense,
because the half and half isn't going to

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cut it. But I think as
we were talking about the proper application of

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scripture, I mean, if you
want to oh, well, I mean

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maybe God wants you to have a
Honda, because in scripture it says they

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were all in one accord. But
good night, everybody dip your waddress.

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So if you took scripture that literally, you might go, okay, well,

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you know there it is right in
scripture, God wants us to be

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in a chord. Now, the
car is inanimate. If you liked the

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car and it suits your specific needs
and it's safe, and it's an honest

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transaction. God doesn't care any more
than he cares whether you have vanilla versus

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chocolate ice cream. He just cares
that you have. You don't have too

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much of it because then it becomes
a problem. But inherently, there's nothing.

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There's there are many times and this
is where people get lost. Evil

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is not a thing. It's the
inner. It's a relationship. It's interaction

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between morally neutral or good things.
You know, you can have something.

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Let's just make a fake thing,
a shiny ball. And let's say the

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shiny ball has value, and it's
perfect in itself, and it's roundness and

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shininess everything, and it's baldness.
Everything has value. But it gets a

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scrape. That's a privation. It's
the absence of something that should be there,

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which is as perfection as a ball, and now it's got a scrape

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in it. That's like sin.
Sin is the absence of the good in

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a situation. So you look at
every situation. You look buy a car,

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you say one, is this reasonable
for my finances? Is this a

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reasonable vehicle for myself? For my
family? Am I buying a sports car

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when I need to sit in all
of these things? And if you think

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through it that way, that's all
you need to do. You know,

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even if a murder was committed in
the car, Heaven forbid, that doesn't

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hold into it. It's an inanimate
object. The important thing is that you

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are going through and doing due diligence
of your finances and being a good steward

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of the things that God has given
you, and that gives glory to God,

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but to Him and ha and like
the Pharisees or the sadducees and to

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stand on high mountains praying over everything
is more theatrics. I'm not saying your

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father is doing this. I'm only
hearing your side. But that's more theatrics

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than it is proper application of scripture. Robert, Welcome to the Jesus Christ

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Show. Hello Jesus, Hi,
Robert, what's going on? We're just

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confused. I've got a little people, a little different churches. They all

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telling me the true Church, and
I'm not there. Who's telling me the

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truth and who's just doing it for
personal gain? Well, so you're saying

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because so many people have differing views. No, what I'm saying is that

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I don't know. Everyone keeps telling
me they've got the truth. All these

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churches around me tell me they've got
the truth, and I'm confused because they

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all different, they all say something
different. Okay, Well that means that

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they can all be wrong, but
they can't all be right because they contradict

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each other. Right, Yeah,
okay, So but that certainly doesn't mean

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that that there isn't the possibility that
one of them can be right. Well,

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I'm not saying that one of them
can't be right. I just I

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just don't. I just don't.
I just how do I know where to

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go? How do I know who
what to worship? I know to worship

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God in case? Right, I
just I just don't know in what manner?

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I mean, what rituals do I
follow? Okay, Well, the

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the important thing is is the essential
part they're the as far as denominational difference

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is dealing with baptism, whether it's
infant baptism versus adult baptism, versus sprinkle

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versus full summersion, for whatever it
is. If it's those things, that's

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you're gonna have to follow that finding
in your own life. Yeah, okay,

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So it's really about it's really about
the definition of Christianity. If you're

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already good with following the Father and
and you're already good with Christianity, then

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really it's about the flavor of Christianity, not about the faith in general.

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Is that what I'm hearing you saying? Are you saying that you you have

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no problem with following Christianity? You
just not You're not sure which denomination?

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Yeah, very much, because the
truth, well, of course you don't

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wanna you don't wanna be with somebody
who's preaching something that they don't believe that

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doesn't make sense. Of course,
they're going to think that it's the truth.

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That's what that's what propels people in
passion. For instance, if you

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whittle it down to political parties,
you have to the left and the right

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for most part in the United States, and you've got these two political denominations

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and uh, you look at them, and it's not just about you're gonna

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have to break down as which part
of that you think makes more sense or

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you think is more valuable for the
United States. And when it comes to

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your, uh, your religious belief, if you've already gotten that much done,

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you're already going, Okay, I
have no problem following Christ and this

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is all good, and I believe
in you and this is fine, and

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we're going to start there. That's
a great start. As far as the

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other parts of the denomination are concerned, that's really just toppings are flavoring dealing

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with the core issues. The core
issues are the Trinity and the virgin birth,

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these things, and those are the
essentials that you should adhere to.

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As far as how one worships,
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And if it's not something that contradicts
scripture. It's like you're worshiping by

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you know, killing chickens or something
like that. If it's if it's not

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something that grossly goes against scripture,
then that's up. That's up for your

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interpretation. It's just the part,
the actual Christian part, that you can't

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remove from the equation and call yourself
a Christian. But there are the flavors.

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There's gonna be difference, and it
does get confusing. But don't be

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lazy, you know, there's all
kinds of things, you know, I

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find this humorous, Robert, that
that men will spend countless hours, you

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know, perusing you know, your
local electronics store catalogs and going online and

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pricing, same with cars for car
parts, for any types of electronic gadgetry.

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They'll spend hours, and they will
tell you everything about that. This

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is what this one has, this
is what's this one has, this is

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what makes this one better, this
one's better for this usage, but not

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for this usage. And they'll be
able to parse it like nobody's business.

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Yet they will be the same ones
that will call me saying I'm confused about

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all the different denominations out there and
which one's right, do the whole work,

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Robert, take the time to investigate, to look at what the beliefs

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are. Every church worth their weight
should have a mission statement and their beliefs

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and what they believe. And a
lot of times you can find this online.

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Now you can go and you can
search, and you can look for

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those that use double speak and you
can go, Okay, that's not for

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me. They look like they're kind
of trying to dance around an issue,

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or you know, things like that. Or you investigate, you take time

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to go and you see how the
people react and what the fruits are.

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You know, if someone told you
they're the best farmer, you'd be able

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to go and you'd look and you'd
see the produce and you'd see what they

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were growing, and you'd say,
hey, wow, these really are beautiful

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and this does look healthy and it
looks vibrant, and he seems to tend

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to it to his crops well and
his animals well, and you'd see those

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things and there's going to be fruits
of those. You can't you can't just

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expect someone to tell you that shouldn't
be the proof. What you're looking for

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is the is truth, and that's
something that you're going to have to search

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for and read scripture and pray about
and study, and then you'll be secure

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in it. Don't just wait for
something that's the flashiest or those types of

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things. It's going to have to
be real, legitimate fruit, and that's

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where the value lies. Leslie,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello,

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Hi there, Hey, I wondered, is there anything in the Bible

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that specifically and really directly says that
you can stick up for yourself if someone

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is using you or treating me bad. Well, yes, but you don't

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necessarily need that. I mean,
it's a righteous thing to defend yourself.

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People misquote scripture all the time and
take it out of context and therefore get

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confused and they think that I was
a pacifist, and that's not true.

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It's that you need wisdom and understanding
to do it appropriately. And there's times

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in scripture where where I might condemn
somebody for doing something and say, you

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know, he lived by the sword, dies by the sword. But in

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that particular case, I'm referring to
Peter taking out his sword and cutting off

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someone's ear after I'd already told him
that this is what's going to happen,

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and this has to happen. So
it was using the sword out of context

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because prior to that, I actually
tell them to gather their swords, and

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that it's important. Also, if
you go to Exodus twenty two, verse

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two and three, it says if
a thief is caught breaking in and is

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struck so that he dies, the
defender is not guilty of bloodshed. But

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if it happens under or after sunrise, he is guilty of bloodshed. A

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thief must certainly make restitution, but
if he has nothing, he must be

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sold to pay for his theft.
Now, the reason why I pick this

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one for you is that you see
two different parts of the same situation.

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If a thief is caught breaking in
and struck, so he dies, and

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this is implied that it's at night, yeah, and the situation is dire

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and quick decisions have to be made
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The defender is not guilty of bloodshed. However, if it's sunrise,

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and this implies that if you have
time to get out where you're not physically

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in harm harm's way, then it's
not the first call or line of duty

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is not to harm the person,
but to protect yourself, and then restitution

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can be made for what was stolen
by using the courts of law. Well,

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you said that there were versus that
specifically said are there any others including

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this one in Exodus twenty two?
Is there a reason that Exodus twenty two

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doesn't suit your your ONTs or needs. Why do you ask the question?

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Well, because the situation I'm thinking
about is when a person has authority over

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you, for instance, in marriage. Well, the authority over you is

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is the same as the authority you
have over them, and it doesn't mean

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that you are to be beaten.
Never Ever, you won't find any scripture

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that says it's okay for you to
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Yes, I agree with that.
But if you're married to someone who does

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that and they keep pointing out what
the Bible says about, no, no,

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no, no, no, where
is it? Where is your answer?

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There is? You're not going to
find a scripture about that says don't

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chew glass. But do you think
for one second God wants you to chew

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glass. No, But there's a
lot of things in the Bible that it

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says not to do that. Most
people don't want to do. No,

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there's there's nothing in scripture that says
that it's okay that somebody would hurt you

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in marriage or otherwise. I agree, free, I mean, I know

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that's totally wrong and sinful. I
used to think that that, even though

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what he was doing was wrong and
sinful, that the only way I could

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be right with God would be to
belong suffering and to it. No.

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No, no, no no no
no no no no no no no.

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Love is patient, love is kind, and yeah, but you read that

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verse and you find you find there
where it says to to receive, you

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know that your partner is part of
that verse as well. Oh, I

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never thought what he was doing was
right. Well, then why would you

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be a part, a participant of
his sin? Why would you think that

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was godly? I guess because where
I was going to church and what he

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was telling me all the time.
As I wasn't right with God, then

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run, don't walk to the nearest
exit. I already did good. But

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it still bothers me that there's nothing
Well Exodus twenty two, I'm glad to

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tell me about that, but it
still bothers me that it doesn't say like

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why obey your husband and everything onto
the Lord. But if he abuses you

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leave or don't go along with it. I mean, Leslie, why would

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you expect a verse to be so
literal on something that every breath of scripture

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goes against because everything else in the
Bible is that way. No, it's

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not just I just spoke to you
about not chewing broken glass. There's not

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one verse on it. Not one. There's not one verse that says obey

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the speed limit. If you read
you mentioned chapter thirteen of First Corinthians,

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right, and just hear this for
me. It's a good one. So

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hang tight and I'm going to read
it in just a moment. Leslie,

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you's still there. Thanks for holding
on, my dear. So you're asking

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you were in an abusive relationship and
you're looking for that one verse, and

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I wanted to go through First Corinthians
chapter thirteen. People hear it all the

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time at weddings, but never ever
really listen to it. And then I'll

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throw a couple other verses at you
that might be helpful as well. But

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think of the Bible this way.
It's not you're not. People tend to

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use proof texts all the time.
They pull things out of context. But

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God didn't write the Bible in a
fortune cookie or a bumper sticker on purpose.

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It's not meant to be read that
way. It's meant to be read

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in its entirety. And it's called
hermeneutics. It's the harmony of scripture is

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what teaches. And it's like,
you know, the guys that come home

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and they've got some furniture that they
have to build, and it has that

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diagram and it's got the entire book
that tells you how to do it.

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But what they do is they look
at the big picture and they look at

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that one picture and see it,
well, I could probably build it just

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by looking at this picture, not
seeing all the little nuts and bolts and

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where the screws go and all of
that. And people try and do the

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same thing with scripture. Sometimes they
try and look at one verse hoping they're

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going to get the whole thing,
and that's really not going to serve you.

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So let's look at this first,
real quick one Corinthians thirteen. And

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we've all heard it a million times
before. Love is patient, love is

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kind, It is not jealous,
love does not brag, and it is

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not arrogant. Does not act unbecomingly. It does not seek its own it

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is not provoked, does not take
into account a wrong suffered, does not

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rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with
the truth, bears all things, believes

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all things, hopes, all things, endures all things. Love never fails.

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Now, you can't read that and
put an abusive relationship in that context

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without it doesn't even need to say
you're not supposed to hit anybody or anything

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like that. You don't need that
because it covers it. But why don't

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you? I mean, but there
is more? And I don't want to

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leave you there. Colossians three nineteen
says husbands love your wives and do not

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be harsh with them. Right,
Colossians three nineteen, Now that covers all

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of it. See, I know
those verses that have to do with what

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the husband's supposed to do, and
I know about the verses that tell it

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the wife's supposed to do. Then
where are you lost? I'm lost?

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Because all right, like in one
Corintheans thirteen and talk about being patient kind,

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yes, and I believe all that, And it also talked about enduring

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all things, not getting offended when
somebody wrongs you, and like in Proverbs,

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it says that it's thought answer turn
its way. Well, if you're

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married to a bully thought, the
answer turns on wrath. And it's just

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like, why doesn't it stay somewhere
in there? What to do? There's

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so much emphasis on long suffering and
enduring, not taking offense. Yes,

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because there's a there's abuse, leslie. There's people that abuse those terms and

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they think, oh, well,
I don't like this relationship. I'm gonna

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bail. That's not talking about a
case that you're talking about, right,

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It's because people use them out of
context, but never one Peter three seven

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says husbands in the same way,
be considerate as you live with your wives,

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treat them with respect, over and
over and it's it says that in

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Ephesians five twenty nine that no one
hates their own body, and you're to

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treat your spouse as your own body. So having said all those things and

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covering all those things, would say
that there is plenty for you to understand

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that it's wrong. It says in
scripture, and this covers all evil,

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and I'll leave you with this.
Flee flee all types of evil. It

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speaks of sexual sin, of all
kinds of things. It is not okay

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to be mistreated. You protect yourself. There is nothing in scripture against self

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defense, not a one. And
that's not what it means to turn the

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other cheek. That's about being insulted, not about being slugged. I appreciate

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you taking the time to listen to
the show. I hope you make it

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a part of your week every single
Sunday to meet me here and remember,

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more importantly than all the craziness and
weight of the things in the world,

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remember these words. I Am with
you always. KFI AM six on demand