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Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. They
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Hey, welcome back to Eye the
Ball here in Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve, he's Jay. Now
we have Kevin with breaking news, his

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Eye on the Ball, breaking news
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right,

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so first things first, we're gonna
go ahead and get started with the

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with the Women's Basketball Pactall Tournament which
is going underway today. We already have

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our first result. Colorado absolutely embarrassed
the University of Oregon, which is putting

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it very kindly. The final in
that game is seventy nine to thirty in

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favorite of Colorado. Colorado is the
five seed, libet Oregon and Oregon was

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the Will you talk about this?
Because I thought about this. Someone did

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the all time best women's basketball players
in the league's bignans closing years ago.

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Oregon was the talk of the town. They were gonna win the national championship

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in the in the year that the
tournament got cam in. Yesco there is

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a senior and look at how far
they fall in the league. That's tough.

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Yeah, I mean, well,
we'll get to this later because next

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time we have Moreno, I know, I'll bring this up. Go ahead.

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Because of Oregon. Everyone talks about
and I'm the guy that says,

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because they have nice uniforms and this
is not to your point. Oh,

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they have all this money, they
can do all this stuff. Well,

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tell me about it now. It's
not so much basket men's basketball. Tell

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me how that's working basketball women,
Tell me how that money and kids?

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The kids want to play. Man. People talk more about their court than

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the team exactly, exactly. All
that money and all the beautiforms, shut

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up. They want to play.
And if you don't get players, you're

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not gonna play. Cal Is up
ten right now over Washington State with five

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minutes left in the second quarter.
Yeah, yeah, that's and the women

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play tonight, and they have Washington
tonight at seven. The Buffalo Bills a

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busy day in Buffalo. They have
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uh Naim Hines and Mitch Morse as
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It'shavious White, multiple all pros leaving
the Bills organization today. That's yeah.

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Cost cutting I'm not really sure what
the deal is with with t White.

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It seems like he would be somebody
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of that defense, But I don't
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Who they're going to bring in.
What the next move is there?

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The Seattle Seahawks after trading the farm
for Jamal Adams and him coming in,

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have you a couple of injury injury
riddled seasons? Uh, this past one

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was not the prettiest. They have
cut him and they have also cut Quandre

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Diggs, who is also a pro
bowler as well. So a lot of

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kind of surprising timing roster moves today
the NFL, so their deadlines they can

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march to if you make it to
with this deadline, the new league year

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starts in the Yeah, seven days. Is that why they're doing the Russell

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Wilson thing before some Sun day?
Yeah, they actually came out and today

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said that he can start talking to
other teams today, which is good for

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us. I guess let Russ Cook
as they say, former you kids come

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up with these phrases. Former Arizona
guard Brandon Williams. Yeah, I was

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gonna want the G League Player of
the week after averaging wopping thirty nine and

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a half points, ten and a
half assists, and ten and a half

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rebounds in just two games this week
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All right, good for him because
you know, with all the injuries

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that he had here and he almost
the knee, he'll hardly ever played here,

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right, he barely got in any
game, and he was the guy

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that kind of saved Sean at the
end because he kept the other guys because

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he stayed or he can state.
Yeah, Lorenzo Romar has been let go

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as the Pepperdine coach, his second
stint after six seasons. And then Matt

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Crenshaw is also out as the i
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making it the four teenth coaching change
already. Jason Gardner used to coach

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there. I think this guy is
a guy who replaced Jason Gardner. But

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you want to talk about it.
I always like Lorenzo Romer. You know

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when he was he spent all that
time as the Washington coach. You know,

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he coached when when you're here under
Shawn Mill just a good guy and

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you know, you you know,
you rarely get these opportunities. But in

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the that game that the Pac twel
would always play in China at the beginning

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of the year, and I worked
the first couple of those up there.

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They actually went to Shanghai with those
guys, but Washington played in one of

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them. And you know, it's
a big it's a big social event for

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you know, the coach. I
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and the coaches. You know,
just went up to the bar, the

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hotel bar, and everybody's up there. You know, Roxy Bernstein was hanging

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out with him, held out with
Bill Walton at breakfast. But I got

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you know, I got a chance
to hang a little bit with Lorenzo and

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he was fun. It's just a
good guy, and to me is one

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of those guys that you don't look
like you could be a basketball coach because

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you're too easy going. Well in
this moment and that's part of the probably

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him with Steve Lavian and Josh Pasner. You know, I agree with you

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because I covered him when he was
I watching him for a long time.

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When he came here, I texted
Sean and said, you got your best

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recruit of the recruiting class. That
was him. Coming to help him,

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not that he made a difference,
right, because you know you're thinking that

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some guy was rubbing off on him
because guess who was the boss that year,

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Sean Miller. You're not gonna tell
Sean how to run this program.

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Yeah. So, but I really
like Lorenzo. I honestly though, I

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kind of got out of sight,
out of mind. I kind of forgot

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about him being a Pepperdine. I
bet you lancewers onsistant coach. You know,

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you know some guys, you know, when some guys that I talked

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to were talking. He's like a
Steve Robinson kind of guy. Right,

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he is going to go help a
young coach somewhere, Jim Jim Rosborough bring

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some stability, uh, some very
variants to a guy, maybe a need

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somebody take a guess how old heuse? I think he's in the sixties.

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Sixty five, got it? You
know what, that's hard to believe.

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I mean I've said that because I
know he's been around a long time.

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He didn't, you know, to
me, doesn't. So but but and

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you're reaching that point soon. So
sixty five. When I was a kid,

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when I was a kid, so
old, so old, and it

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was retirement age. Right. Yeah, now, now, not so much.

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I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of work to

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do. We all do. We
do have a little bit more college recruiting

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news. It's my last thing I
got today, Kayman Mallock. I don't

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know if I've pronounced that correctly.
I probably didn't, But he is currently

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ranked the number three prospects in the
nation out of Africa. He played in

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the NBA Africa Academy. He has
committed to Duke to join Cooper Flag,

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who is the number one. They're
gonna be a good player in the nation

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and listen to these measurables here.
Cooper Flag, we all know, is

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an incredible talent. Listed at six
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Me Locke is seven to one,
two fifty and he is the third

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player in the nation, meaning the
Duke has two of the top four and

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Rutgers has the other two. Wow. Rutgers, yep, Rutgers, Ace

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Bailey and Dylan Harper. A great
n IL program. Yeah, I mean,

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and Ron Harper's kid just went there. Silent related but interesting. Yeah,

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there should be good. I'm not
too sure about the coach Shire as

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a shire. We'll see how he
does, because he's another one of those

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good guys, not so much tough
guys. And you have to have both,

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you have to be both. Let
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came on and I saw just now
that you know, the apparent meeting with

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Hobbes and the UA administrators, including
obviously President Robbins. I guess this is

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a release from her office stated Hobbes
was clear in her expectations that ABOR and

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the University of Arizona take the necessary
and appropriate steps to resolve these issues.

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I make sure she was pretty stern
in herkayu. And then you know,

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from day one when the financial mismanagement
at the University of Arizona became public,

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my goal has been to restore the
public's faith and trust in this institution.

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There's along road ahead of us to
fix this financial miss mismanagement and ensure the

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university emerges from the situation stronger than
it was before. She could she could

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have said all that without a meeting. Rather, what did you think of

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the meeting? That's all I see
right now. But the government requested the

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border regions take up the following steps. Here we go on the war,

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engage external experts in supporting the improvement
of financial process and procedures, provide monthly

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financial updates on the progress to date
to Governor Hobbs and her staff prior prioritize

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those who have longer lengths of time
working at the university, working class staff

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and Arizona based employees when assessing layoffs. But didn't you say there's no longer

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just two But didn't you say yesterday
that there was going to be no layoffs

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or well, they're not gonna they're
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after They're not gonna say you got
on low ten percent of your staff.

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It's it's sense, it's gonna be
more a thing of jobs are going to

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get vacated and not be filled.
Right, every every but every department has

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to you know, take a look
at you have the right number of people.

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But they're not they're not forcing tax
amount of we're layoffs, work with

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less right, work with less right, you know. So it's I think

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it got everybody breathing a little easier
in that you know, they're they're not

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going to just start chopping, you
know, indiscriminately. You know, at

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the bottom of the food chain.
Uh, you know, all over the

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university there probably will be some positions
that will be eliminated or whatever, but

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it's not going to be like,
Okay, you got to get rid of

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percent of your of your staff or
whatever. Well, in talking to the

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president last week, I thought he
was very ambitious in saying that thirty six

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months. Yeah, holy crap,
I wish I could pay my car off.

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That's well, that's the that's the
that's the athletics part. I think

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that was just the athletics part.
I do, but I don't want to

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pay him back. Well, if
I could only be were you here with

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us for the other history? Was
he yesterday? The bracketologists for the Yeah,

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yeah, I'm still trying to find
me a you groopye, yeah,

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bracketology groopy the wrong line of work. Man knocking on the basement window.

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Yeah, your mom around, mom
doing a bracket I line. All right,

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we got a few minutes left,
so let's we got a couple more

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clips left from from the Tommy things. So he was asked about, uh,

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their three point defense, and uh, you're just it's just a little

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funny exchange talking about you know,
he wasn't really aware what the stats are,

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but Oh yeah, he's just what
he had to say about his three

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point defense. Well, I mean, you know, gardening the three point

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line is important, you know,
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not that we're necessarily doing anything different, but I just think you have to

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have an awareness and you know of
you know, there's some threes you're going

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to live with and there's some threes
you you'd rather not, and just kind

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of making decisions on those is is
really important. Yeah, I know,

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I mean that that's good to know. I mean, I haven't looked at

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the stats, you know, as
in depth that you have, but you

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know, I feel like our defense
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I wasn't happy with the second half
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and we're trying to address that.
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I think the defense is going in
the right direction. But it's going

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to be tested on the road this
weekend. Yeah, we'll see, because

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I think if it's Ula was shooting
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It's gonna be a problem for whatever
long and listen to get it fixed.

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And you got to twenty nine how
many games they played, almost thirty games

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if not thirty games. If you
haven't got the problem solved, you can

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hopefully get it solved. You are
who you are. You are you are.

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That's gonna be on the tombstone or
toobstone about tombstone. They died because

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we are who we are, better
or worse they could remember. Crap you

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are? We thought they were all
right. It was not so much on

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the ball. Yeah, yeah,
all right. He had to come work.

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He talked about Grant Whiteman, who
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start in uh Over Boswell because he
was a senior on on Saturday. He

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had some nice things to say about
why let's put that on. He just

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high character, high character, great
guy, puts the team first, you

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know he you know, his family
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And you know, I think it's
been really cool to watch him be able

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to have his own journey and make
his own impact on Arizona basketball. He's

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a he's a he's a really good
basketball player. He's he helps us in

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practice a ton and he takes a
lot of pride in that and and I

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think that's really special. And I've
always you know, told people, if

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you are looking for someone to hire
for your company. I would always look

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at a manager, a student manager, or a walk on first. Those

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people know how to serve the greater
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the importance of support roles. And
so I think that's tremendous. And Grant

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has you know, been I hold
him in high regard and and I'm going

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to really miss him, you know. And and he has a COVID operamortunity

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to go play another year, and
that's what he's expressed that he wants to

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do. And there's no doubt in
my mind somebody's gonna end up with a

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really impactful basketball player, you know. When he said that, Jay,

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we talk about this every now and
again. How and you see the commercials.

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If you want somebody to hire,
hire an ex athlete, right,

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they know how to be team.
If you're not a good teammate, you're

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just not a good teammate. But
most of them are pretty good teammates.

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They know how to work within the
system, do what they can. They

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know their roles. And I thought
his point of the walk ons and the

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managers because it's a tireless, thankless
job, and they're there because they want

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to be there, they want to
be part of the team and the success.

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I thought it was a fantastic analogy
because it's true and and and you

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know these you know some of the
ex managers that we know, the the

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the guy, A bunch of them. Ryan Hansen is the president of a

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local local company, Todd Walsh,
who's done very well for himself media wise

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in Phoenix. There's a bunch of
them. There's some, there's some my

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dentists, a former former guy who's
the dentist for all the coaches and other

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people at U A uh so mean
And this the story goes on and goes

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on. Right, one of the
guys is it's I think he's a Fox,

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big time Fox guy TV back in
the day thirty years ago. Right,

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I mean very true what he said. No, it is exactly.

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You know, you love guys.
And then on top of that, even

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better, you know guys who play, play and experience multiple sports. Yeah,

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because you know, you have to
be a different type of teammate on

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different types of teams. So I
was well said by Tommy on that one.

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All right, let's let's take our
break. We're gonna get Ben Boltch.

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He's the he's the uh uh u
c l a beat writer for the

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Los Angeles Times. We'll get into, you know, his thoughts on the

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game tomorrow night, his thoughts on
Mick Cronin, and we'll definitely ask him

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about Chip Kelly and all of that
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Welcome back to I in the Ball
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He's jacob'sauce known if on. We
have Ben Bulk from the La Times.

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Ben, how are you excellent?
Thank you so much for having me

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on. We're Greek to have you
have you on. Occasionally I want to

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congratulate you. You're done with the
Chip Kelly era and now almost done with

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the Crone era this year. How
you know, from people from outside of

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LA and we don't get to see
you all the time. And you know,

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people call Cronin cranky and Kelly he
clicked, uh, just kind of

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erratic or whatever word you want to
use. How is it or was it

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covering these guys? Yeah, you
know, it's easy to kind of shoehorn

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them into one easy narrative. You
know, Chip Kelly's just this gruff guy

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who's hard to deal with, and
Cronin's kind of like this maniac on the

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sidelines. But they're, you know, just like anybody else. They're very

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complex, nuanced people. You know, I really have enjoyed my interactions with

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coach Krony's almost thoughtful, honest coaches
I've ever dealt with, probably the most.

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And then on the flip side,
you've got coach Kelly, who until

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recently I thought was a man of
integrity despite all his quirks. But as

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I wrote an a column for the
La Times that posted yesterday, I think

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he lost a lot of honor in
the way he left. You know,

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he had his introductory press Conster House
State yesterday said that he wanted to,

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you know, get back to coaching
and just coach. But which is fine,

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but you can't do that at a
time when you leave your team in

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February and just leave everybody in a
terrible spot. So I lost a lot

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of respect for him with the way
he left. And as you said,

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uh, I don't have to deal
with him anymore. Good for you both,

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Good for you. Yeah, it's
a tough situation. You know,

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we we've heard it. Look from
from an Arizona standpoint, everybody thinks Mick

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Cronin is you know, like one
of the groucheous people you know ever on

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the planet. But how is he
really because I've also heard that off the

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court on the side, he's just
a regular guy and you know, not

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who we think he is. What
are your what's your take on? Yeah?

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I don't know if you've ever watched
one of his not non Arizona, I

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should I should uh preface this by
saying non postgame Arizona media always seemingly in

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a bad mood there, but uh, you know, when we meet with

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him weekly, it's just a tremendous
twenty minutes of inside into his life.

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Basketball even liked to talk about the
NBA, obviously his team's. He is

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legitimately the most enjoyable coach I've ever
covered, just because he's so open,

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honest and insightful about everything. And
you know, he gets grouchy like everybody

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else does, but he's not that
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during games. Sometimes he's a completely
different person. Well, as I said,

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a very nuanced person, and I've
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explain this to us. So yesterday, I think you pushed it, or

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maybe even today from yesterday's press conference
or media gathering where earlier he'd been throwing

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people under the bus or players under
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have been you who asked what type
of role do you play in this?

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And he said all me, It's
all me. Yeah, it was me.

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Actually, yeah, you know,
people were asking rightfully, So he

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was kind of throwing his players under
the bus basically all season. So I

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think it's only fair for him to
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he had to some extent. I
mean he said, you know, I

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have to coach them up, I
have to build their confidence. But you

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know the bottom line was he never
said, you know, our our our

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failures are on me as a coach. So I opened my first question to

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him yesterday, you know, what's
your level of culpability given that you evaluated

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these players, you recruited them,
and then you assembled this faster and without

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flinching or hesitating a second? He
said one hundred percent percent. So you

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know, he owned up to it
as I thought he probably would. Uh

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So, you know, as as
Chip Kelly loses respect, Mick Corning gains

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it. In my eye, Interesting, So what okay, so what what

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went on with has been going on? I guess because the team is still

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playing? What's been going on with
the team? Why have they not been?

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You know because they had been because
it happened they went in a nice

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sixty six. Yeah, So,
I mean, what what's characterized this team?

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Is that just the so many new
faces that didn't come together? I

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mean, what, how have you
analyzed what this team has done this year?

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Yeah? Well, you know the
bottom line is seven freshmen eight newcomers,

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including Lazar Stefanovitch, who's turned into
a really nice player transfer from Utah.

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But as I look at, you
know, and as coach cronan is

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also conceded, it's just really hard
to win with so many new pieces,

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particularly freshmen. Not trying to make
excuses for him, it's just a fact.

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And he did have them playing pretty
darn well during that stretch where they

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won eight out of nine, and
it's never going to be a high octane,

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pretty to watch offensive team. But
what they did was they supplemented their

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very good defense with very good rebounding, and then they took care of the

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ball and basically never turned it over. So they added in those two components

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to kind of compensate for their shaky
offense, and they were getting a lot

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more shots than the other team,
and that really kind of was the edge

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they needed to win some games.
And in the last you know, four

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games started with that just crushing lost
to Utah at the buzzer. They've kind

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of gotten away from that, and
I do think they also hit a little

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bit of a freshman wall with you
know, four freshmen playing really significant roles.

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Those guys have never been through a
college season before, I think they've

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kind of run out of the gas
a little bit. And then you know,

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when they came off that high and
lost that Utah game, they just

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kind of have fallen a little bit
of flat. You know, it's late

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in the season. I'm sure they're
tired, and obviously, you know,

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they're not going to plan inst a
tournament unless they win the whole pac twelve

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tournament. So I think motivation fell
off a little bit, and it's a

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confluence of factors. So and midway
through the year or through the season,

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his name gets mentioned for the Louisville
job and people saying he's got one foot

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out the door. Yeah, I
don't believe that for a second. You

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know, in fact, he addressed
that on the Arizona road trip. I

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wrote about it, and in fact, going into the Arizona game, he

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was standing in the hallway in Tempea
and he you know, kind of pulled

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me aside and said, hey,
you know, I don't read anything,

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but I hear things, and people
are and saying, you know, you

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seem really unhappy about the roster and
the nil and all this stuff, and

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you know, are you are you
got one foot out of the door you

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leave it, and he said,
I'm gonna stop this right now. I

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want this to be my last job. And of course, you know,

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you can quote other coaches who've said
similar things, uh, you know,

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uh and ended up somewhere else next
year. But when when Mick Cronin says

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it, I really do believe it. I really do believe he wants to

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speed last job for for a number
of factors, he has a deep appreciation

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for what UCLA basketball brand means.
Uh. He moved his daughter and his

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ex wife out here and they're very
happy, and he's very happy. He

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loves everything about living in southern California. So I'm not gonna say there's no

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chance in the world, but I
would be stunned if he left UCLA.

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So okay, so you know we're
we're sitting here and they got this this

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game tomorrow. Do you you know
there's there's two ways of where we say,

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as fans, you look, okay, did one or two things is

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gonna happen. Either the UCLA is
gonna come out saying, look, we

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don't have a lot to play for. This is a big deal to us.

407
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.359
We really want to you know,
it would help us feel better about

408
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:10.000
us if we win or we're mailing
it in. What you know, what

409
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:11.880
from what you see? What do
you think is the most likely thing to

410
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.839
happen tomorrow? Yeah, you know, I think I think they we're gonna

411
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:22.640
see similar to what we saw the
first Arizona game and early in that Washington

412
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.319
State game. I'm not saying US
is gonna win. I think that's still

413
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.839
a tall order, but I think
they're gonna play an inspired, energetic brand

414
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.640
of basketball they kind of had.
You know, they had their rivalry game

415
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.880
a couple of weeks ago at home
and they just sell and it was the

416
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.799
biggest crowd, first sell out of
the season, and they just fell completely

417
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.680
flat. And I think it was
a hangover from that, just gutting Utah

418
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.599
US. But I think they were
legitimately embarrassed by that, and I don't

419
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.480
think they want to have another showing
like that, particularly at home. You

420
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.240
know, we're getting ready to close
out the season here, so I think

421
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.759
we're gonna see us best punch.
I'm not saying it's gonna result in a

422
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.240
win, but I think you're gonna
see some impressive effort from these guys.

423
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.519
No, I think the usually Arizona
game always brings the best out of both

424
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.920
teams, so and it's going to
be packed, right. I guess Arizona

425
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.799
will bring some people out, you
know, the people you usually don't see

426
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.640
at the game will be there tomorrow. Yeah. You know, you always

427
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.359
get the u of a chance going
whenever they come to Polly, so I

428
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.400
expect them to be out in full
force as well. Yeah. So it's

429
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:30.079
a tu a little bit about the
fan base and how they're taking this season

430
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.720
because that's always, you know,
always an issue, and you know,

431
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:34.079
now they're looking at going to the
Big ten and all this stuff. What's

432
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:38.119
that been like? Yeah, I
think that you know, coach Kordin's getting

433
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.640
a pretty big mulligan here because,
let's face it, you know, he

434
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.079
even in his first year, he
had them playing really well at the end

435
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.000
of the year that got cut off
by COVID, and then next year they

436
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.480
have the unexpected run in the Final
four and you know, gotten Sweet sixteen

437
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:57.440
in each of the next two years. So he's really done a nice job.

438
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:02.079
And you know, I think he
thought that either Jalen Clark or Murray

439
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.960
Bailey was going to come back this
year and wouldn't have to do quite the

440
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.079
complete roster overhaul that he had,
So I think he was caught a little

441
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:12.640
bit off guard by that, and
that really deepens he's kind of rebuilding efforts.

442
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:17.880
But I do think the fans have
given him the pass, especially you

443
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:19.279
know, there was one point where
it felt like they may not win another

444
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.440
game this year, right, I
mean when they lost the calp date Northridge

445
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.000
and then got embarrassed by Maryland at
home, and I think they started one

446
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.000
and four in the Pac twelve and
it's like, wow, are they going

447
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.400
to win another game? But you
know they they're right around five hundred,

448
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.119
which is is awful. There's no
doubt about its awful for UCLA, but

449
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.319
it's not going to be a historically
bad season. So I think LA fans

450
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.799
are giving him a path. Now. He can't do this and again next

451
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.559
year. They've got to make the
tournament next year or there's going to be

452
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.440
a big price to pay. So
we've had a we had a you know,

453
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:55.160
Rhino here earlier in the show talking
about the old, good old days

454
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.039
of the UCLA Arizona rivalry before I
asked you for some of your great moments,

455
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.880
because I know you've covered the team
for a long time. What the

456
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.000
heck happened? Did you ask Cronan
because you referenced it earlier about Cronan and

457
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.599
one of the reporters here, like
I expect that from you, and he

458
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.160
just asked about the mcale Center.
Yeah. I think it was justin Spears

459
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:19.119
asking about, uh, you know, the atmosphere or something. And I

460
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.359
don't think that Cronin knew who he
was. I think it was just kind

461
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.680
of like, oh, you're you
know, you you cover Arizona. He

462
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.039
was kind of lumping him in.
I did think that was a little bit

463
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.359
unfair and uncalled for, but you
know, he was. He was testy

464
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.839
after after a loss. I've gotten
that handful of times from him. Uh

465
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.680
yeah, just just kind of salty, unnecessary remark from Cook Cronin. Okay,

466
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.039
okay, so you've covered it.
You know, I was with you

467
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.519
back in the day when you recovered
the team as well some of your greatest

468
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.000
memories with this rivalry, which is
obviously the storied one of the Pac twelve.

469
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.519
Yeah, you know, it's funny. I actually covered USC basketball for

470
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.640
a while during the Tim Floyd are. I think that was the first few

471
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.599
times I came in and I remember, h uh, you know, uh,

472
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.440
Nick Young and Gabe Pruitt upset them. That was back in the days

473
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.079
when we sat right in front of
the band behind the baskets. I'm sure

474
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.920
you obviously remember that. And uh, that was. That was a heck

475
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.599
of a game. They always had
a good fight. And you know,

476
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:21.359
I've come in with U. C. L A for like the last fins

477
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:26.200
Alonzo ball era and that was very
shortly dearra. Uh you know that was.

478
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.400
That was a good game. And
you know you say he went to

479
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.519
a run there where I think three
three years or so on a row with

480
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.799
Steve Alford, uh, going and
merging into mc cronin that they wanted the

481
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:41.640
McHale Center. But it's been pretty
much all Arizona these last handful of years.

482
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.920
But it's just always so much fun. You know. I always relished

483
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.160
the atmosphere because I'll be honest with
you, we don't get that at paul

484
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.319
A Pavilion unless they're playing Arizona ORFC. So always fun for me to come

485
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.720
in there. I will say,
I think this is important, you know,

486
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.119
with some of the back and forth
between the spitting incident and from the

487
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:05.400
fans, I would be a little
bit surprised from the UCLA perspective if they

488
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:09.119
continued this rivalry, really, because
I think that there's a lot of tension

489
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:15.279
there, lingering over what's happened so
interesting, and I haven't been told anything.

490
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.559
I just think just from kind of
reading the tea leaves and you know,

491
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.240
Tiger Campbell's mom telling me that she
was kind of verbally assaulted there,

492
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:28.039
and I know that stuff gets back
to the coaching staff. So I don't

493
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:32.079
think, you know, continuing this
rivalry is going to be high on the

494
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:36.279
wish list for UCLA going forward in
the Big ten era, which is of

495
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.839
some rise to US. Jay and
I because just Tommy Lloyd said today the

496
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:43.880
press cooverence, he anticipates it to
continue because it's such a good thing.

497
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.759
But you're right, though, yeah, you're you're right, Ben. I

498
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.880
think they, you know, all
things being cool, they would like to

499
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.559
continue it. But I do think
that from the US perspective, and I've

500
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:57.359
heard it, you know, and
this is not coming from mcconnan. It's

501
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.400
coming from other people. But I
know that they passed this along and I

502
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.279
know that, uh, you know, there is some tension there that probably

503
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.519
needs to get resolved if they're going
to continue it that that that really bums

504
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.559
me out here, you know,
from a from a local that you know.

505
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.799
And I mean, look, I'm
not saying that it's there have been

506
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:17.960
some things and I under I would
I completely understand U. C. L

507
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.319
A's point of saying, why would
we want to keep going and dealing with

508
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:23.920
that stuff? So, uh,
you know, there's things you can't do.

509
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.599
I mean, was it was it
was the last game? Something I

510
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.640
thrown? Was it? That?
Was that the game? Or well what

511
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.720
happened last game? Was I was
sitting right above it. It was an

512
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:39.920
Arizona student, h if he was
videoing or something, but he put his

513
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:46.000
phone right in literally like inches from
multiple players heads and some of the staffers

514
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.480
kind of lingered behind and were drawing
at him, and uh, you know,

515
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.279
it doesn't sound like a very big
deal, but it just you know,

516
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:59.039
added on top of you know,
Figer's mom situation and then the mac

517
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.039
Etsy and stuff, and obviously that
was you know on UCL I should not

518
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:07.160
have done that, but just there
there's been a lot of incidences, uh,

519
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.119
just piling up. So I think
that stuff does kind of have a

520
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.119
cumultive effect. After a point,
and UCLA has a choice, right,

521
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.840
It's like we're stuck with having to
deal with the A su fans. But

522
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.679
but you know, and that that's
bad on both sides as well. But

523
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.519
yeah, you're you're right. If
USLA doesn't want to deal with that,

524
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.159
they can just say see you,
yeah next knowing ye Ben as always think

525
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.960
you will see you next week.
Enjoy the weekends games, all right,

526
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.440
same to you. They trap me
on. I think you've been Ben Bolt's

527
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.079
one of the best sports writers in
the West, and I want to make

528
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.440
sure that people understand we don't excuse
Arizona fans and do stuff like that.

529
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:44.239
I was just gonna use it the
fans really, yeah, no they do.

530
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.320
I mean remember the Oregon organ cheerleader
got here with a water bottle,

531
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.639
launched it well at a football game
and it got carried out on a stretcher

532
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.480
and the right and then you just
try to remember the one from Washington State.

533
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.400
They got through the light with those
little light things that they have the

534
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.280
other day. This the other day. You know what they If their strivalry

535
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.599
doesn't continue, Arizona fans, it's
your freaking fault. Yeah, true.

536
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.119
And airzew he sale has every right
to say thanks but no thanks, and

537
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.800
I hope that's not the case.
Sure, okay, hey, let's take

538
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the Breakdow. That's good, all
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This is I on the Ball on
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He's Jay. You have fifteen minutes. We get Kevin at the board,

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so we pay attention to the phone
lines five to two, zero four one,

587
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six, seventy four to forty give
us a quick call. I thought

588
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that was a good interview. It's
been fun. Both both Rhino and Ben

589
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.920
Bolt are fun talking about the rivalry. It's a big deal. And again

590
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.079
again, st you're just sad that
this thing is over. Well, the

591
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.039
thing about a two And we know
this as journalists, as we should know

592
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.239
this as journalists. There's two sides
to the story, right, and and

593
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.519
we're here in Tucson, right and
we hear we hear stuff here, and

594
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.400
we hear the people here and they
have a story too. Look, we

595
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:14.559
know that and let's say, let's
say who it is the students at this

596
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:21.239
you know at Arizona and Michael Center, they push it and and often go

597
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.920
over the line. Sure again this
week I saw something on Facebook the mkill

598
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.480
will take this call. All right, let's get this call, Hire on

599
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:35.239
the aaron I on the ball.
Hello guys Howard. Yeah, So,

600
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:43.679
of course loud Olsen didn't like the
tournament. And what I think Tommy was

601
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.440
saying the same thing. He values
the next game and of course the season,

602
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:51.920
your league season a little more than
the tournament. Do you guys agree

603
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.199
with that the tac TO twelve tournament. I don't know. I don't get

604
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:58.639
a sense that he doesn't like it. I I you know, it's like,

605
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.639
you know, opportunities play again and
kind of you know, in Arizona

606
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:07.480
situation, you know, solidify their
their seed and all that stuff. Right,

607
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.639
I agree, But you know me, I push for cultivating to call

608
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.159
me mister cultivator of the bench.
I know it's too late. I think

609
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:21.159
you guys, using your guy's own
words, the PAC twelve is pretty weak.

610
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.840
Yeah, yeah, what's your point? My point is that they could

611
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:30.920
play those guys, Mark Kowski,
all those other players that don't get in

612
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:32.559
the game because I think, first
of all, they're gonna be blowing them

613
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.079
out, so they will see the
floor in the blowout. No, they

614
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.719
do. I mean, he'd love
to get them into pac TWEF tournament,

615
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.320
right, but what's he's not going
to risk a loss? You know,

616
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.519
What's it going to matter in a
week or so after that, because if

617
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.719
he hasn't trusted them to this point, he sure he ain't gonna trust him

618
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:54.400
in the NCAA tournament. Right.
Yeah, I get that. But you

619
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.280
know, I was ready to push
the panic button movie, right, and

620
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.559
I got talk tomorrow out the game
war but I was ready pushing the panic

621
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:06.679
button about my sons. But they
had that great victory last night, and

622
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.000
then people are already on them,
says don't sleep on the Suns after one

623
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:15.199
pou because I actually hear these guys
talking, Okay, I'll comparing to the

624
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:20.320
Warriors. They're saying, well,
they still don't have a point guard,

625
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:27.159
you know what I mean? Yeah, I said that's bs because the Warriors,

626
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.239
let's face it, they didn't have
a point guard. They had Green

627
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.599
who's a really good passer, and
and and and Seth. But Steph is

628
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.920
a two. He's a shooting guard, he's not a point guard, right

629
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:42.480
right, Well they found the way
to do it, Howard, thanks to

630
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.599
the call man as always, all
right, thank you? Yeah. When

631
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:51.679
were we talking about? Oh yeah, MG, so another another post.

632
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.360
We got to do something about the
students being moved again and enough already guess

633
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.159
what and I guarantee you j this
is another person who doesn't go to the

634
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:06.719
games seas it on TV and they
don't experience experience Thursday night with the red

635
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.320
lights and all that stuff. How
crazy was that? And it's been crazy

636
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.719
most of the year, right,
and then you want to move the students

637
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.440
because what to make it crazier just
because it doesn't look right on the side

638
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.639
on the TV. And let's never
forget the student section was half full on

639
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.679
Saturday because they were out on spring
break. Another point. You know,

640
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.000
you know, you have a spring
great spring break game. And now the

641
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.320
bottom some down on the bottom bowl, it's you know, it's empty because

642
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.800
they took off for a spring break, and the upper bowl was fully empty.

643
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.199
So even the people who are actually
buying the nosebeat seats, they weren't

644
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:38.719
there either. So it was just
a whole depth of sound that wasn't.

645
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:43.079
No, you know what stop.
Okay, first of all, you're not

646
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:49.039
that great a student section that you
deserve those seats, perfectly said, because

647
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.880
it's true. Oh everyone can say, oh, it's the best fan.

648
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:53.440
No it's not. No, you're
not. No, it's not. You

649
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.280
show up when you feel like it
and guess what, and you don't show

650
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.639
up other times the team does very
well anyway. You know, the Cameron

651
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.599
crazies are there every single out.
But I went for this reason too,

652
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:08.840
to see exactly what it was.
Okay, it's a roll of a few

653
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.719
a few rospeck and it looks great
on TV. But outside of that,

654
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.480
it's a normal stadium because it's it's
nine thousand or whatever. It is right

655
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.480
across the way. When they have
the donors and stuff, they ain't jumping

656
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:23.800
around the zona zunis to shake itself. It feels about how great great.

657
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.880
It feels like some fans go to
the big games throughout the year that the

658
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.079
biggest of games and the atmosphere is
absolutely killer. It's electric. I will

659
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.960
say that there have been more games
this year where you thought they're not going

660
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.280
to have a great crowd, where
they in fact did The Washington State game

661
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:45.039
wasn't nine o'clock game, and that
place was loud. It was full,

662
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:49.079
and it was loud, including the
students. I was surprised at that.

663
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.880
I thought, you know, like
you said, I thought we're going to

664
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.880
see the upper level was going to
be, you know, half full,

665
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.000
and man, I looked around and
it was jammed. That's what I was

666
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.480
saying. The students action might not
be the greatest the atmosphere, but it's

667
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:07.519
at its best. It's like one
of the best night that. The other

668
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:12.000
thing that gets me is, okay, we're both go ahead. Now you're

669
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.000
on the air and on the ball. Hey Jay, Hey Steve, this

670
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:20.119
is done. How you guys doing. Hey. You know one thing that

671
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:28.840
you guys haven't mentioned about the atmosphere
at McHale Center is game day at McHale

672
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:34.920
Center is lit inside like an NBA
game, not like a college game.

673
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.199
The lights aren't always up and you
can't see everybody like at McKay. Like

674
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.400
at Pauli, it looks like a
high school gym and all the lights are

675
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:49.239
one, whereas mckill Center is more
of an experience with the video boards and

676
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.880
everything else and the music and all
that stuff and you know, you don't

677
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.920
see that. You know, you're
not seeing that at other places the way

678
00:44:55.960 --> 00:45:02.599
it is at McHale. No,
you're and and when the seats were selling

679
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:09.119
out back in the day, it
was the donors and the and the season

680
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:17.360
ticket holders that filled that place up. And you know that's there's just the

681
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:23.360
student section hasn't been a collegiate student
section right on the floor for as long

682
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:27.440
as I can remember. I started
going to games in eighty eighty six,

683
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.800
eighty seven, and then you know, that's that's the way it's been the

684
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.199
whole time. Yeah, no,
that that happened when Cedric Dempsey got here

685
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.519
in the early eighties. He said, no, we need to make money

686
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.519
off these seats, and they shut
the students you know where they where they

687
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.079
are today. Do you remember when
he having spotty, they had to put

688
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.719
him in spotty. Yes, that
didn't worked because it was it was spotty.

689
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.519
Yeah, yeah, no absolutely,
But now it looks I remember they

690
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.480
used to be up in the corners
in the top and all and they were

691
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:59.639
all spread out all over. Yeah, and look, the students bring it

692
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:01.880
off. But there are sometimes that
you just go, what are you doing?

693
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.559
You know? And so I don't
know. Yeah, how a lot

694
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:12.840
of interactions have gone gone too far. We don't need to be We don't

695
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.800
need to be hearing about extracurricular stuff
in the news the next day or that

696
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.760
night. We don't need to be
hearing that. So exactly done. All

697
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.079
right, Hey, thanks for the
call. I appreciate it. Take care.

698
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:24.920
Yeah, No, I lost my
train of thought because I was just

699
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:29.400
saying when one more point was gonna
be the students, YadA, YadA.

700
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:30.880
Oh oh, now that we're older, because you're older and I'm older.

701
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.079
I've been hearing this since I got
here. I was twenty five years old,

702
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.360
twenty three years old. And now
those guys have passed. You know,

703
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.599
the people that we saw Now we're
the old people. We're the old

704
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.599
people. So at what point is
are we not the old people? Because

705
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.159
it's always gonna be a generation of
the tickets continuing on, right, So

706
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.039
if you're forty year thirty or whatever, to the kids, we're always the

707
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:53.440
old people. Yeah, no,
we are. We are the old guys.

708
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.679
Yeah, of guy, And guess
what your sons and your daughters who

709
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.360
are there now are gonna guess what
they're gonna be. Yet, the old

710
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.920
gonna be the old guy. You
can't fix this problem because they're generational.

711
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:12.320
Look, I think I think the
McHale fan base, the McHale atmosphere is

712
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:16.079
what it is. It's that's how
it's going to be and how it's been

713
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.079
for a really long time, and
it's just going to stay that way.

714
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.280
The thing is that, you know, you do see where as time goes

715
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:28.960
on, you know, whether they're
students or fans, get bolder, and

716
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:32.599
do they keep pushing the envelope further
out? And and you know, the

717
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.679
the guy sticking his phone in the
face of a of a a UCLA stop

718
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.559
right. I was sitting next to
him, next to Ben, and I

719
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:44.039
saw that too. And the kid, the kid was being a pain.

720
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:45.280
It was being a punk, you
know, And and he pull it back

721
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.760
and then do it again, and
then the coaches came in and he kind

722
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:51.159
of got some glee. I,
Hey, guess what I'm doing. Guess

723
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.480
what's about? It's about being visible? You know that that that conversation came

724
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:58.639
up in the in this whole court
storming thing. They said, you know

725
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.079
you're gonna try and stop ports to
on. The suggestion was, well,

726
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:04.920
then don't show the court's storms on
TV. They don't give a crap.

727
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.840
How many of the guys people running
out on the court had their phone clubs

728
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.480
so they could put that stuff up
on social media. That's what it is.

729
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.760
It's the same now that kid was
trying to get himself on social media

730
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.000
by putting his phone in in you
know, in the face of a player

731
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:24.039
the moment exactly, and then everybody, there's more people with just because they

732
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:28.800
have phones, have an opportunity to
have that moment that you didn't have before.

733
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:30.599
Was before you know, the camera
would come around and everybody start waving

734
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.440
at the camera that was their moment. Well, now I don't even need

735
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.440
that. I just need to do
something and with my phone and put it

736
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.239
up on social media, you know, and people will, uh, you

737
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.800
will look at it, and that's
good enough for me. But that's the

738
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.239
way it is now, and that's
the way it's going to be forever.

739
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:50.920
Yeah, And I mean I saw
it's totally different levels of this, but

740
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.239
it's the same kind of entitlement to
a moment that we have noticed because that

741
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:55.800
at the Senior Day festivities, the
players are lined up at the top of

742
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.960
the concresce right and No one's asking
for some people are Some people are asking

743
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.760
politely, hey, mister love like
can get a photo. Mostly we were

744
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:07.199
just going tapping them on the chest, like hey, turning selfie click click

745
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.480
click click. It's like, this
is not a zoo. Can you just

746
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:15.239
be like, hey, mister bollow
like a big fan photo exactly. People.

747
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.039
People are definitely entitled to their moment
with these people, these players,

748
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:21.320
these athletes, coaches, and they
think they are and it is it's going

749
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.639
too far for ye no, and
again you know, and it's it's it's

750
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.000
not just the Arizona either, No, no, no, every right,

751
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.880
And it's the world we live in. And I'm sure our generation had the

752
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.280
pin and the asses too, but
now it's about the phone. It's upon

753
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.199
the phone and look at me and
and and whatever before it wasn't before.

754
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:42.039
Thank god they didn't have phones when
we were younger. I'm very happy about

755
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.760
that we can just tell stories about
I'm very happy about that you can tell

756
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:51.960
the story. There's no visual evidence
of anything that I was doing back in

757
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.320
that day, although I'm looking at
we were talking about this off air.

758
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:00.480
Justin Spears put up his twelve twelve
Moments of the of the U SALE series.

759
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.199
How far did he go back?
Well he did. He does have

760
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.719
a picture of the court storm in
the seventy nine U c l A game.

761
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.599
First year was in the league,
and I'm in there somewhere. I

762
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:16.480
can't find phone, but I didn't
have a phone. Can take the wall.

763
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:20.159
I'm gonna I'm gonna call Justin out
on this. Okay, he got

764
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.679
it wrong because he said, uh
he mentions that, uh, you Arizona

765
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:29.679
upsets U c l A. Maybe
maybe the headline right, upsets UCLA to

766
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.480
finished sleep of Lli schools. No
l A game was first, sure,

767
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:37.760
that was that was a period of
time when the because of the TV contract,

768
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:44.400
they had a Monday night Pack twelve
or Pac ten game and the USC

769
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.800
game was on Monday night because this
was this was this was Thursday, and

770
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.000
the Spaghetti game was the next game. The Spaghetti game was the USC game,

771
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.719
right, and that that that really
killed the Spaghetti company, right,

772
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.480
go ahead and explain to the kid
here. But there was a rush I

773
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:07.199
called the Spaghetti company for inexpensive really
good. I think there's no no no,

774
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.079
this was called the Spaghetti Company.
But uh, it was down there

775
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:15.840
on on Alvernon South of twenty second
Street and big boosters, and they did

776
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.239
it a couple of times where they
gave out a coupon Arizona wins this game

777
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.519
free, you know, free dinner
and twice and this was and the arena

778
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:29.400
held more Hell fifteen thousand because there
were bleachers around three sides of the floor,

779
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:34.440
which is where the student fans.
And they hit a they hit it

780
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.719
twice and book and they went out
of business. It's not funny, but

781
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:42.639
it is. No, it's just
incredibly ironic. Yeah. But that was

782
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.000
also the first I was their T
shirt that I ever saw, that I

783
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:49.360
ever got because they I think,
in fact, it might have been the

784
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.199
Spaghetti Company sponsored those T shirts because
they were you know, I was there,

785
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.920
and they had the scores of the
two games because this was Arizona's first

786
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.559
year in the bit in the back
ten and here at U c l A

787
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:01.400
and U S he come to town
and Arizona beat him both, which is

788
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.880
very cool. Yeah, it was
huge. You know. In fact,

789
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.639
I'm gonna try to get don't get
Joe Neills trying to get maybe filled in

790
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:12.440
tomorrow talk about the last memories of
stuff like that. But there's a there's

791
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.760
a very cool black and white photo
of the court storm. And like I

792
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:16.920
said, I was in there somewhere, I don't know where. I was

793
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:21.599
very short of trying to trip.
I could have my hands in there.

794
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.239
You probably still wouldn't see me because
I was very trip. You're trying to

795
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:24.800
trip one of the centers. No, no, no, no, no

796
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.840
no, no, it was no. I just you know what. And

797
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.639
I didn't go near a u c
l A player. Okay, I ran

798
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.000
on the court and I didn't go
near any u c l A. Players.

799
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:36.280
I might have even given, like
Joe Nell's a hug or something.

800
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.119
He probably wouldn't remember it, but
you know, but you know, when

801
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.519
Larry Damick was on that that was
a great It was a great night,

802
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.159
one of the great one of my
great moments as an Arizona fan. All

803
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.159
right, okay, here we are, man, we're out of here.

804
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:54.440
We have we have uh Brian Jefferies
fifteen from l A at three fifteen from

805
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.719
LA. He's from LA. He'll
be in l No, he's gonna be

806
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.119
in l Okas gonna be he'll I
would be at Polly if not, you

807
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.039
know, at his hotel room nearby. I'm guessing he's at Polly because it

808
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.159
can take you hours to get the
yes. You don't want to take a

809
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:12.239
chance. You're leaving the morning to
get there to a night game. All

810
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.559
right, So yeah, Brian Jefferes. Tomorrow we're going to try and get

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another great guest, so we'll be
back tomorrow. We'll break down some more

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of the UCLA Arizona game, last
one as a Pac twelve rivalry