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So what are you 32 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:19.080 waiting for? Visit Hanger one Publishing dot com today and let the journey begin. 33 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.400 Hey everybody, this is Less Striding. Yes, yes, I know 34 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:49.680 aka Surviving Man and you're listening to Brian on sasquatchadis If you guys are welcome 35 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.879 back to Sasquatch. Thank you so much for clicking play. It is Wednesday. 36 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:55.520 I hope you guys are having a great week. We have an amazing 37 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.199 show line though for you. But as always, I want to start by 38 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.240 inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the 39 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:04.800 show, shoot me an email. You can get me a Brian at Paranormal 40 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.840 World Productions dot Com. Can head over to the website, check it out, 41 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.560 become a member there and help support the show. As I said, 42 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:14.039 we've got a great show lined up for you. We've got a guest that 43 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:17.080 Wayne interviewed over on The Paranormal Odyssey, Kasha. A couple of weeks ago 44 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:22.439 and it's John from Pennsylvania and he's here to share some really cool Bigfoot experiences. 45 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.879 We will certainly get back into Big Brother Bigfoot, the Connor Flynn book. 46 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.039 I've read chapters one through five. If you haven't checked that out, 47 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.360 go back and listen to that, because I'll be picking up in chapter six 48 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:35.479 here over the next couple of days and i'll put that out for you guys, 49 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:38.439 and we'll have another great show lined up for you on Friday. I've 50 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:42.439 had some really cool conversations with some of the folks from Area X if you 51 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:46.039 caught the Darrell Call your episode last week. I've also sat down and talked 52 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:49.000 to Michael May's so that'll be coming up soon, so you guys, make 53 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.840 sure you stay tuned for that. If you're listening to us on Apple Podcast 54 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.879 or Spotify, we would really appreciate it if you would rate and review the 55 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:58.639 show, and we'd love it if you'd follow us on Instagram at sasquatch odyssee 56 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.240 check us out and follow us on tick talk at Sasquatch Odyssey podcast, and 57 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:05.280 we'd love to have you join us in the Sasquatch Odyssey Fans group on Facebook. 58 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:08.400 But enough of that. I know you guys are here for the stories. 59 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.560 I'm gonna stop talking. You gotta sit back, relax and enjoy the 60 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:33.639 show all. I don't want to welcome my guest today, mister John Sasco. 61 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.639 John, how are you doing, buddy? I'm doing pretty good this 62 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.439 morning. How are you doing very well? Very well? Thank you so 63 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:43.639 very much for taking the time to hang out with me and talk some big 64 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.480 Foot this morning. I appreciate it. It's my pleasure. I really always 65 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:50.639 enjoyed talking about the paranormal experiences I've been on, absolutely and from what I 66 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:56.879 hear, you have had quite a few. You've been delving into several paranormal 67 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.839 topics in your life, and we're gonna have you on a couple of times 68 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.360 to share some of those experiences. But today we're going to focus mainly on 69 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:10.199 the big guy. So what got you interested in Bigfoot? How long have 70 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:13.920 you been looking into it? And what got you started? Well, actually, 71 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:17.639 when back when I belonged to another group here in Pennsylvania, we'd started 72 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:23.439 talking about Bigfoot in relationship and not moving and I looked down and I heard 73 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.240 russing, and I saw green eyes looking back up at me. About halfway 74 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.439 up the tree. So that kind of startled me. So what do you 75 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.040 think I did. Well, I jumped down as fast as I could. 76 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:36.079 By by then it had taken off. So we set up several more nighttime 77 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.560 investigations as well. Didn't see much. Found some tracks and stuff which are 78 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:46.360 indistinct but fairly large, and we found it in the neighboring areas there was. 79 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:51.040 It traveled along these railroad tracks between two gullies. So and there's a 80 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.439 creek down there and you know a lot of forests and stuff at the time. 81 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:59.759 Now it's all built up with condos and such. But anyhow, so 82 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.680 the last time we were down there were set up and it was nine times 83 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:06.879 around midnight, and we had five other people there as well, you know, 84 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:11.680 with us. And as I'm walking out of the woods, my co 85 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.920 investigator Devon, saw this seven and a half to eight footmen following me out 86 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.959 of the woods. As I said, I'm six foot four, a little 87 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:24.079 over six foot four, and I followed me out of the woods and disappeared. 88 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.759 I saw this as I turned my head around. Well, that case 89 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.720 was later published in Fake Magazine February ninety three, ninety four. You can 90 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.279 check on that you'll see it's what it's been publishing what was said about it. 91 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:40.399 Twentyhow so that was the last time we went down. We actually can 92 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.600 kind of confirm there was a big foot in the area. This is kind 93 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.800 of strange, and I'll tell you why. As I said earlier, mc 94 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.000 murray, PA is a fairly large town, and it's close to Pittsburgh and 95 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:54.199 Washington, PA. Maybe twenty five to thirty minutes from around rat right now 96 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:58.959 at the most. So this is a fairly urban area. We're Pittsburgh's the 97 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:01.639 second largest city of Sylvania too, so I mean you go three hundred thousand 98 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:05.720 people. So this is this really struck me as very strange that you have 99 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:11.959 a big foot in this area. Yeah, because the Western big foot seems 100 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:16.199 to be very territorial and aggressive at time for the most part, attacks people 101 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:21.480 whatever. But anyhow, also keep that in mind. So that case was 102 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:26.279 put down as genuine, but we did see it ever again. So anyhow, 103 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.240 so, well, I get back one night. I actually want a 104 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:31.000 couple more times after I just say, you know, just to check and 105 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.600 talk to the people live there. But well, it was around midnight one 106 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.879 night when I got home. It's snowed, and but there's no snows on 107 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:42.279 the road. So I get home. This is before the advent of the 108 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.120 cell phones. This isn't about nineteen oh, I guess it's nineteen ninety three. 109 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:49.199 Again, it was around that same year we had over five hundred sightings 110 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:53.680 by the way Eutin area from police, you name it. Anyhow, So 111 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:57.600 my first wife told me when I got home, John, the chief of 112 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:01.199 police, called and they want you to come up to the high school where 113 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:03.120 the hill is up by the high school. I said, what's going on? 114 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.560 And she said, well, he didn't want to talk about anybody. 115 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.680 He was really upset. So I get up here. It's about by this 116 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.199 time, it's around twelve thirty, quarter to one in the morning. And 117 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.560 the only thing I had on me was a portable cubing which is like a 118 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.800 large spotlight, was a portable power pack, and a stun gun. That's 119 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.079 it. It's all I carry. Most of the stun gun wasn't for animals 120 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.839 or big foot or anything else. That's for bad people anyhow, because you 121 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.079 know you're runningto them in the woods as well. Anyhow, So I go 122 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:35.120 up and there's twelve police officers parked on the right hand side of this hill 123 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:41.200 and thirty civilians. The twelve police officers were from four different municipalities. So 124 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:43.240 I went up to the chief and I asked him. I said, what's 125 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.399 going on? He says, look up there. So I look up over 126 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.279 this hillside again. There was no snow on the rud but only on the 127 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.960 grassy areas. And I look up and there's this high tension tower. It's 128 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.120 about eighty to one hundred feet tall, I guess, and I saw something 129 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.080 like leaning against them about one hundred and fifty feet away, but I could 130 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.480 quite make out what it was even with the QB, and I said, 131 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.639 well, let's go. So I started walking them with the embankment to go 132 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:09.440 there. And I looked back behind me. The police officers aren't following, 133 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:13.039 and I saw, aren't you guys coming? And all of them said, 134 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.559 look, look the size of that thing. Now. I said, you 135 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.480 guys are all packing guns. I don't have anything on me. But they 136 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.000 didn't want to go. They were afraid. So I go up and as 137 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.600 I started walking towards this thing, I got with them about twenty twenty five 138 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.279 feet at first, and I saw what it was. It was huge, 139 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.159 like as I said, I'm six foot four. This thing dwarfed me. 140 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.159 I didn't barely come to its waist. I checked it out later on by 141 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.600 measuring when it was leaning against the high tension tire around ten feet tall. 142 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.000 His shoulders were massively wide, I mean, wider than I can reach with 143 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.519 my arms. Fan arms like tree trunks, legs like tree trunks. Stunk 144 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:58.039 a high heaven, and its fur was like a dark brown reddish color long. 145 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.519 Okay, Now I got closer and it didn't move. It hads arms 146 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.399 slightly crossed and looking down at me. It had almost no neck, and 147 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.679 there was no sagital crest like a gorilla. It was more of a normal 148 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:15.240 shaped head, but it was huge green eyes. I shined the light, 149 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.679 the qube beam into its eyes, and it looked back at me and untilted 150 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.279 its head skyways and almost no neck whatsoever. By this time, I'm within 151 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:28.200 fifteen feet. Within fifteen feet, it's looking down at me. I didn't 152 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.840 feel any fear of it, and I didn't feel any fear or anger coming 153 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.919 toward me from it. So we're looking at each other and stuff, and 154 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.519 so I shined the light on its fur, and the strange thing was about 155 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:43.120 this when I did it, Normally, you would think with a powerful five 156 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.279 hundred thousand candle power que beam it would have reflected some light. Correct, 157 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.200 No, not at all. It seemed like the light was absorbed into this 158 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.080 thing. So I looked up at it. It looked down at me, 159 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.360 tilted its head. And I don't know how to quite explain this in normal 160 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:01.080 terms, but I felt waves of madness coming from it, like it was 161 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:05.799 sad. And when I looked into those eyes, I gotta tell you this. 162 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.720 I've been a hunter many times. I killed deer and bear, you 163 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.120 name it. I don't hunt it with the weapon anymore. I don't do 164 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.840 that. I don't believe in it, but I believe in the sanctor of 165 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:20.120 y'all life now. But anyhow, I felt this thing was intelligent. I 166 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.879 didn't see an animal looking back at me. I saw a sentient being looking 167 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.919 back at me. So what it did put its arms down to the sides. 168 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.720 Of course, I tense at that point. It could have torn my 169 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.080 arms and legs off. I'm a pretty powerful guy, but it could have 170 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.360 torn me to pieces and picked its teeth with my arms. But I'm going 171 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.840 need to describe its space first of all, a lot of renditions of a 172 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.360 big foot. I can speak on this as far as the eastern big foot 173 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.679 that I've run into. Its face is not completely covered with hair. It's 174 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.840 got a it's hair is I mean, it's face is pretty clear pretty much 175 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.639 except for like around the edges. The ears are covered a little bit, 176 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.399 but you can still see the tips sticking out there. Not pointed. They're 177 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:07.159 more roundish but elong aided. The brow is fairly clear. You know. 178 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.480 The nose isn't real real wide, but it's wider than the humans. It 179 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.399 has defined lips and mouth. The teeth from what I could see that it 180 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.399 looked like at some couple of k nines in the front and normal teeth but 181 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.000 big. And the chin was covered with hair all the way down okay into 182 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.759 the neck area. And just so I said earlier, there was virtually no 183 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.200 neck on this thing. It was it had a neck, but it was 184 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.720 huge. I mean its gigantic. I mean, this thing I've never seen 185 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.559 anything that big. And I've seen bear close off and everything else. But 186 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.080 this thing could have torn bears apart as big as it was. So what 187 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.840 I did, I still we looked. It was about thirty five seconds and 188 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.799 this is before cell phones. I didn't have a cell phone, didn't have 189 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.320 my camera because I didn't know what was going on. All they knew the 190 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.840 police wanted to need to come up to the sill and three strides it covered 191 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.559 thirty feet into the woods. I try to keep up with it. Now 192 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.200 I've seen rabbit and deer ry. This thing was faster than anything I ever 193 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.200 saw. It was like it went from a standing start the sixty mile an 194 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.960 iron and a blink of an eye that quick in as the woods. So 195 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.639 I try to follow after it, and it's the time. I was pretty 196 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:15.840 fast myself, but I couldn't keep up with it all and it was crashing 197 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.639 through brushes and had disappeared into the woods. So I came back. The 198 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.840 police and I all talked about it, and civilians were all of upset and 199 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.320 things. So I took I made a report on I filed away, which 200 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:30.480 I had that file, and then I went home. Well, the next 201 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.879 day I got a call from Channel two News here in Pittsburgh, Katka. 202 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.639 And that's the first radio station it was in the country at the time, 203 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.559 but it's the TV station Channel two News up here. It was Mary rob 204 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:46.600 Jackson from Channel two News and it snowed the next day and had the temperature 205 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.919 dropped ramatic. It was like twenty degrees below zero with a windshill. So 206 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.519 she's I got this call and I was outside shovel and snow and my wife 207 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.320 called me in and I talked. It was a reporter and she said, 208 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.200 mister Stasco. She said, I understand you're the investigator for this area. 209 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.639 I said, yeah, I am, Well, what's up? She said, 210 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.399 we had a sighting up in a place called Crescent Heights, a big 211 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.559 feet I went okay. She said, can we come down with the Channel 212 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.919 news vehicle pick you up and can we go there if you don't mind, 213 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.360 I said short, So they came down. I was wearing a black snowmobile 214 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.000 suit head to toe in moon boots, of course you remember those things, 215 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.759 and because it was so cold, and they picked me up and we go 216 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.120 up to the site. Now, let me explain this. Crescent Heights is 217 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.879 a very small town up through Granville Hollow, and I don't know, I 218 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.120 would guess maybe a couple hundred people at the most of it are spread out 219 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.919 like and they have a church, but the church is up on top of 220 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:46.559 the hill. Isolated her way from the town itself, and there's only a 221 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.840 red dog road to get there. So we go up and when we get 222 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.600 to the top of this hill, the churches and we see a bunch of 223 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.360 people up there. So we get another vehicle and we go over and there's 224 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:03.080 these tracks. There's two sets of tracks. So I go over and I'm 225 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.720 checking these tracks out, and there the big set was like I think it 226 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:13.720 was like twenty seven inches and down into the dirt itself through the snow, 227 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.320 and a smaller set was around eighteen inches to also dug down into the snow 228 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:24.480 into the dirt. So Mary tried to jump between the tracks. Couldn't do 229 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.960 it. I couldn't jimp and she's only five foot two or so. And 230 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.240 I tried myself, and I couldn't do it. The span between the footsteps 231 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.120 were so large, and they were traveling exactly one foot ahead of each other, 232 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:41.960 exactly like the Himalayan yetti with one Because human beings walked side to side, 233 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.600 you know you're left foot right foot, left foot right when you can 234 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:48.720 security to see a human beings footprints, but these were in a straight line, 235 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.960 which is indicative of a big foot. So we go up and taking 236 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:58.600 measurements and stuff. And I did something called a soul compassion device to see 237 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.240 try to estimate the weight of these things. Well, when I did so 238 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.600 with a big set, it estimated a weight around twelve hundred pounds. That's 239 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.480 grizzly bare size. Wait, and the smaller set, I estimated the weight 240 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.279 around eight hundred pounds. But the strange thing about the smaller set, I 241 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:22.279 gotta tell you that the right leg was heavier than the left leg by two 242 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:27.000 hundred pounds. So that's about a thousand pounds on the right leg and eight 243 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.639 hundred pounds on the left leg. So what does that indicate to you? 244 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:36.120 Was it carrying something exactly? So what's it carrying? It weighs around two 245 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:40.440 hundred pounds. Maybe a baby, Maybe I'm small baby. A two hundred 246 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.480 pound baby. That's a pretty good sized baby, or least a juvenile. 247 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:47.080 Say. We follow the tracks to the edge of the hill where it looked 248 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:52.840 down over the town itself, and they had squatted down in the snow and 249 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.960 you can clearly see their butt prints. Okay, So so I took some 250 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.200 pictures that and stuff, and then I started canvassing. There was woods all 251 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.440 around up there, and I walked up by myself and I found some hair 252 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.440 samples up in the trees, which I later took the local university had checked 253 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:12.160 out Winnie. Also I started talking to other people living in the area. 254 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.759 There's a lot of black people live up here, you know, a lot 255 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.240 of them are friends of mine and stuff as well. So me and two 256 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:23.000 other investigators. Ones was a chemistry professor at Pitton University, and of course 257 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.400 my friend Devon was a new car engineer, and then of course me a 258 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.240 site supervisor in environmental time. I was the smallest of the three of us, 259 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.839 by the way, at six or four, so the other guy was 260 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.359 six six, Devil was six six and a half. So we go up 261 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:40.079 and we interviewed people, and they were all terrified. And the one moment 262 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.359 lived at on the outskirts of this hill. She lived in a trailer, 263 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:47.279 and the trailer was mounted on the hillside, and the look in the window 264 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.200 on me facing down the hill. You'd have to be pretty tall to look 265 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.400 in that window, much taller than I can reach. I can stand flat 266 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:59.279 food and reach apt so I couldn't even reach as high anyhow. So she 267 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.000 was telling us was an old lady. She was telling us that one night 268 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:03.839 she heard a noise outside of her trailer. She lived alone, and she 269 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:08.240 looked out the window and as something was looking back in at her. Okay, 270 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:12.920 So this went on for a while. So there's that. So at 271 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:18.400 this time, the police in California, PA called me talking to me as 272 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:21.720 a friend of mine, and he told me that he was making the rounds 273 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:25.880 on Route forty three and as he was driving up in broad daylight in the 274 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.559 wintertime, he saw a bigfoot squatting on the side of the road watching cars 275 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:34.200 going by. These are police officers, Okay. I went to another town 276 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:38.000 called Brownsville, PA. Not West brownsil Wood, Brownsville, and I talked 277 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:42.720 to a priest. He had the night before he had taken out pizza boxes 278 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.839 with some old pizza in it and put it in the trash. He saw 279 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:51.400 a family of them rooting through his trash. Okay, apparently looking for food. 280 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.920 We had over five hundred calls from state police, local police, people 281 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:02.240 of all works, walks of life reporting bigfoot. I got another call from 282 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:06.319 the state police in Uniontown that there was some sightings up in a place called 283 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:10.920 Cornellsville at a stone court. It was abandoned years ago. So my friend 284 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.440 and I went out and checked it out, and indeed there's things in there, 285 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:17.359 there's tracks in here, but we really couldn't find out where they led 286 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.799 to. These creatures are very elusive. Okay, first of all, I 287 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:23.519 mean extremely elusive. I mean you talk about the Champions of Hyde and go 288 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:29.000 to see they are. But so there are so many sightings we were going 289 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:33.079 on at the time. So anyhow, let me move forward. So I 290 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:34.720 told you about the first one, McMurray, and then I just told you 291 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.119 about this one, and let me tell you about the hair samples. So 292 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.319 I took the hair samples to a local university and they checked them out for 293 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.000 me, and it took them a couple of weeks, and they came back 294 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.559 with some unusual results. What they said was the hair samples were almost transparent, 295 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.079 they weren't like normal hair samples. The only thing they could say about 296 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:57.920 identifying it through its DNA was there was an unknown HOMANDID. So that's I 297 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:03.319 mean. So again, we're having legitimate sightings from professional people in a rash 298 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.680 shop, and we have like set over five hundred in a very short span 299 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:10.400 of time. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to Sea Wooding right back after 300 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:18.920 these messages. So where I live, there's a lot of woods and we 301 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:21.400 have a lot of berries. We have a lot of game, I mean 302 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.839 deer out there wazoo and stuff up here. More so i've ever seen in 303 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.759 my life. I mean, where I live in town right now, we 304 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.920 have deer come across and have their babies on our ports at times. I 305 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.119 mean, I should tell you something walking down Main Street and Washington, PA 306 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:40.200 is not exactly a small town either. But anyhow so the other time, 307 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:42.960 the third time that we saw a big foot, my wife and I were 308 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.200 down to going down to Cooper's Rocks, West Virginia. That's one of my 309 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:49.799 favorite places. I used to go there and stuff. And as we're driving 310 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:52.880 up that long grade to go to Cooper's Rocks, my wife looked to the 311 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:57.200 right and standing on the side of the road just like next to the woods, 312 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:02.000 was about an eight foot tall boot. By the time I try to 313 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.920 stop and pull off the side road and disappeared into the woods there. And 314 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.880 I'm sure you know that area. It's pretty pretty thick with woods. So 315 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:12.759 and that's close to Cheat Lake, very close to Cheat Lake. So that's 316 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:17.839 the three times I've seen Bigfoot. I have to say some things I had 317 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:21.880 mentioned earlier about Bigfoot on the West foot on the East Coast is learn to 318 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:26.440 coexist within urban areas and not be too aggressive, although there are very rare 319 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.319 cases of it being aggressive. Now, the further south you go on the 320 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.880 East Coast, you have the course of Skunk Cape, the Bogey Creek monster 321 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.319 or those type of things, and they seem to be more aggressive. But 322 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:42.680 again you have there's not as urban as the areas where we live up here. 323 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:48.359 But again, generally speaking, the East Coast bigfoot or Sasquatch, whatever 324 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.880 you want to call them, seem to be less aggressive or more intelligent about 325 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:57.519 human beings, and they're much They're very illusive. Now, as you well 326 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:03.039 know about the port Lock incident where Bigfoot were sighted and they abandoned the town 327 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:07.319 years ago, the Bigfoot out there or sasquash is very aggressive, dangerous, 328 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:12.279 known rumors have but they've killed people, drug them off into the woods, 329 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:17.559 never to be seen again. Those creatures are much more feral and seemed to 330 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:22.759 be much more territorial. I'm sure you saw the one video where they showed 331 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.039 that. I guess there were a couple of woodsmen out there getting ready to 332 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:29.200 cut some trees down, and a bigfoot through a log pretty far at them. 333 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:33.359 Okay, so you're well aware of that. So what I think is 334 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:38.319 this. I believe in my heart from everything I know that Bigfoot is not 335 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.920 an animal for sake, I don't think it's a descendant of gigantopithecust either or 336 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:49.640 the identisovin the ancient man. I'm not sure what it is. But now 337 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:53.519 here's where it gets a little weird. There are reports about how they can 338 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:59.920 seemingly disappear at will. Whatever that's true. Either they're really good at camouflash 339 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.240 they are apparently too, but or they have an ability and this is going 340 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.480 to be really off the wall bit, they seem to have ability to just 341 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.440 like vanish in the thin air, which kind of brings them into more where 342 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.160 more people in this field now are beginning to feel that they may be interdimensional 343 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:21.000 creatures or have the ability to some hut cloak themselves in a some type of 344 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.400 invisibility be where they disappear. Now the questions you have to ask yourself are, 345 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.640 Okay, obviously they're a living creatures. They probably do die right, 346 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.319 Okay, where the bodies. Okay, what do they Well, we know 347 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.200 they can run down a deer, they break a deer's leg, and they 348 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.599 carry a deer, no problem. The animals, they vegetables, plants and 349 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.279 things like that, and they sort are omnivores. They have molars, so 350 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.920 they choose food as well. You know, they can eat, like I 351 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.240 said, grassy things or whatever. But they also animals because they have canines 352 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:57.680 as well. They're perfectly suited through an environment. Their feet aren't quite like 353 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:00.839 a humans the way they're ups. Aren't things like that. I'm not sure 354 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:04.720 you're aware of that. You can pretty much tell when something's being faked too, 355 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.279 Okay I talked. You know there are people out there, and this 356 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:12.359 is what makes us feel so difficult. There's a lot of serious investigators other 357 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.400 than myself in this field as well, and you know, Cliff Brackman's one 358 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:21.200 of them. And but you have all these bigfoot groups on TV now where 359 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.640 they're out hunting bigfoot to kill it, or they're out drinking it in the 360 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.759 middle of field, a bunch of shotguns and things. Let me tell you 361 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.599 something, if they have seen what I saw, the ten foot tall one 362 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.240 I don't think a shotgun or a rifle had done much anything to it except 363 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:38.119 make it really angry. And I don't think you'd want this thing to get 364 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:42.440 angry at you. Okay, big as it was. So I have a 365 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:48.480 lot of problems with people bringing disbelief and ridicule to this genre. I try 366 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.279 to keep it professional. When I go into an investigation, I don't go 367 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.880 in believing anything at first, other than somebody says maybe they saw something. 368 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.759 So I go in. I asked them pointed direct questions. I need to 369 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:03.680 know where they saw, who was with them, what time of day it 370 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.240 was, how big they think it was, the etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 371 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:14.559 And now anybody can see whether you be an upstanding citizen in the community 372 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.920 or somebody was in trouble with the law at one time. I have to 373 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:22.319 believe everybody because everybody has eyes. Okay, even children, Okay, they 374 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:27.880 see things too. So I go but with open but skeptical mind until the 375 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:32.200 proof itself starts telling me one way or the other, what's going on? 376 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.720 Now, out of all the big footcases I've been on, I've probably debunked 377 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:42.480 about I like to say about thirty to various reasons like whether misidentification like a 378 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:48.400 probably a bear or things like that, or somebody's drinking and they see maybe 379 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.559 pink elephants, you know, or somebody's hoaxing, wearing a costume, or 380 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:59.240 just outright lying. Okay, It's pretty hard as an investigator to make determinations, 381 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:00.960 but you can after a while you pretty much get a feel for these 382 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:07.400 things. So anyhow, overses just for bigfoot alone. Now, I've been 383 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.559 on a number of cases, not well, I'd say probably a good thirty 384 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.200 cases where this is where it gets into the other field. And I know 385 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:19.000 we're to talk basically by bigfoot, we are, but this is bigfoot related. 386 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:25.960 There have been sightings made by credible people that said they saw a bigfoot 387 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:33.119 in a close proximity two or coming out or going into a grounded UFO. 388 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.279 Right now, that's some pretty serious stuff. So, and the people I 389 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.640 talked to were very credible people, a couple more police officers, some were 390 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.400 doc when was a doctor anyhow? So I have to take what they're saying 391 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:52.839 is factul Okay, And so that makes a question, what are exactly bigfoot? 392 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.400 Now do you want to hear my theory? It may disagree with. 393 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.559 People may disagree with what I'm going to say, but I have to consider 394 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.359 all options at this point because truthfully, even though I'm called an expert, 395 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.680 there are really no experts in this field. We're all secrets, We're all 396 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.960 secrets of knowledge. We need to know what's going on. First of all, 397 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:12.920 let me just say what I do know. Bigfoot's an intelligent creature. 398 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:21.160 He knows about dogs, can huntey, he knows about man's weapon okay, 399 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:26.119 he knows to avoid close human habitation. Okay. He knows that human beings 400 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.240 are inherently dangerous to it. So this is an intelligent creature. Now, 401 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.839 of course, you might say the same thing of a deer or a bear, 402 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.079 But you know what you know, Wayne, that deer or bear weather 403 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.200 can get into a person's house, rummage through things, break into a cabin's 404 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.440 do whether they don't have fear of human being. I'm not saying that Bigfoot 405 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.000 has fear of human beings. I'm saying that Bigfoot is aware of human beings 406 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.279 and what are cable book, which means it's a sentient creature. It's not 407 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:57.680 an animal. To avoid capture like it has been has to imply a much 408 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:02.640 higher level of intelligence I think given credit for it. Now, where did 409 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.480 they come from? Well, I mentioned earlier about Gigantopithecus than in Denisovan. 410 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.599 I don't think it's the descendant of Gigantopithecus, even though they're around the same 411 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:15.640 side. Gigantopithecus a creature will live along thousands of thousands of years ago. 412 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:21.400 It was primarily for my understanding of vegetarian. It was huge and powerful, 413 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:22.839 of course, as all things were in the place the scene era. I 414 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.839 mean, you had megafloor and megafauna there, you had, my goodness, 415 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.079 you had giant ground sloss twenty feet tall and sabor two tigers and mastodons and 416 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.240 dire wolves and everything else. So it had to fit in and protect himself. 417 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.960 But I don't think that's what it is. Now. My opinion is 418 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.039 this. I don't think it's indigenous the of Earth. I really don't believe 419 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.279 that. And I'm not the only one feels this way. Others feel it's 420 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.759 an interdimensional creature. I don't know the quisite way it disappears at will. 421 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:52.759 The only thing I can tell you is this, it's an unknown creature, 422 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.279 unlike anything we have on its planet, and they're all over the world. 423 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.359 I mean we have them of course in the Himalayas, you have the Era, 424 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.960 and you have the you know, you have the one in the Yahoi 425 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:10.200 in Australia. Even so many apparently in the United Kingdom. We have members 426 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.559 in our group that are from United Kingdom and they talk about a big quote 427 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.359 over there as well. And you know that's a much smaller country in the 428 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.440 United States. But if they can hide there, can hide anywhere. And 429 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:25.119 for centuries they've been talking about this creature. The Native Americans at once worshiped 430 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.119 and feared it. Okay, it was a brother to them, but at 431 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.920 the same time was dangerous to them as well. So I don't feel it's 432 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.119 indigenous to the planet. I think it's from somewhere else. And my opinion 433 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.200 is this, let me tell you what I think about the biology of this 434 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.480 creature. Okay, it's while it's been seen in a daytime, it seems 435 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:51.720 to prefer evenings and nights, which would imply it's our boreal which also tells 436 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:56.440 me that has excellent, excellent night vision, probably sees in different spectrums than 437 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:02.000 we do, or multiple spectrums than we do. It a superhering. It 438 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:07.680 has obviously super strength and endurance. It's not too affected by cold because it 439 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.119 can live in high altitudes. It can also live in a low altitude. 440 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:17.400 Now, there are reports of these creatures building huts of a type built to 441 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.759 put sticks together or whatever, or make like a tin out of trees, 442 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.079 or a little turn a tree upside down and stick in the ground, as 443 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.960 you well know. But here's the thing. Deer don't make shelterers, do 444 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:33.200 they. Okay, so we know it's not a deer. Okay, but 445 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.559 where did these things go? Now? Back in nineteen forty seven, before 446 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.319 I was born by five years, because I'm an old guy but still moving 447 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.319 around, there was a sighting down not too far from where I live, 448 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.359 of a big foot tricktype creature coming up out of the river. Okay, 449 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:53.880 No, let me make a hypothetical suggestion to you. What if sometimes big 450 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:59.279 foot can take and go under the water and dig underneath the embankment to stay 451 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:03.559 up under the there who would know they're there? Nobody? It's just like 452 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.160 a crocodile or an alligator might do, okay, far off underneath an embankment 453 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.759 somewhere, but they're masters at wherever they do. Now, they seem to 454 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.160 be moving around a lot too, but they have to sometimes rest. So 455 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.400 where do they go, Well, in Western Pennsylvania, I'm sure in West 456 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.559 Virginia as well. You have a lot of caves and minds, don't you. 457 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.359 Oh yeah, yeah, we sure do abandoned minds. I might add 458 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.400 very deep, and we have a lot of caves around here and things. 459 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.519 So my guess is they have favored places to stay, maybe even overhangs, 460 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.319 okay, things of this nature. They have to take shelter at some point 461 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:44.759 somewhere to raise their young. Now you also have reports of them with young 462 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.720 juveniles. It seems that juveniles are the ones that are seen the most because 463 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:53.039 they're more precocious. They're more curious and sometimes more aggressive than the adults. 464 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:59.440 It seems like the adults have learned to cope with human beings and human habitations 465 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:04.599 and things that nature. So I think that they keep in small family groups. 466 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.039 There's an alpha male in the group probably and an alpha female, and 467 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.039 they do move around a lot. Now people have asked me, what do 468 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.200 you think their range is? Well, I'm want to guess that maybe a 469 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.799 sixty mile range, sixty seventy mile range, and by the length of their 470 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.599 strides and how fast they can move. I'm saying they could probably contraverse that 471 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.160 in the day, whereas a human being would take all day maybe to walk 472 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.680 twenty miles. Okay, So these creatures are They move around a lot. 473 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.960 They keep busy. Now I can give you some tips on where they'll maybe 474 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.119 look. Well, we know they're omnivores. Okay, Well let's say this 475 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.680 for the sake of argument. You know bear like berries. Well, we 476 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.960 have a lot of berries around here. Okay, we have fish around here, 477 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.039 We have all kinds of things. They can eat, eggs and things 478 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.200 in its nature. Okay, so they eat whatever's available. Now, when 479 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.000 berries come in season, look for you can look for a big pot. 480 00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.200 Maybe you might have a better chance of seeing it. But here's the thing, 481 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.680 too, Wayne, you don't go out in the woods with a bunch 482 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.839 of people in camera crew making a lot of noise. If these creatures have 483 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.759 superhero like I believe they do, and expect to see one, you're not 484 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.880 gonna do it. Yeah, okay, And that's the problem I have with 485 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.920 these shows. You've got a bunch of guys out there carrying on making enough 486 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.279 noise to wake the dead, taking a camera crew with them, you know, 487 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.039 and a big fool can elude very easy to elude them because you can 488 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.319 travel great distance, very fast rate of speed. Human beings can't keep up. 489 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.640 Okay, I can't do. You're never going to sneak up on a 490 00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.599 sasquatch. I've said it a thousand times. They know you're in the woods 491 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.559 before you know that you're in the woods. And with my organization, manim 492 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.759 will research what what we have done and what we promote and recommend others doing 493 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:52.240 is just go camping, Go like you normally would. They are curious beings. 494 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.720 They will come out and look for you. I strongly believe that you're 495 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.319 never going to go out in the woods and walk up on one. If 496 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.599 you just go out and do your own thing, go camping, you know, 497 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:06.720 just hanging out with your friends, they will come to you. That's 498 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.440 right. And the other thing I would suggest to is what I used to 499 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.199 do when I'm a hunt. I was a hunter. I don't anymore. 500 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.519 I don't. I put a hundred years ago, but with a gun, 501 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.679 but I hunt with a camera in my phone now. But anything, What 502 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.599 I would suggest is that when somebody goes out in the woods game trails, 503 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:28.800 you know, you find the game trail, we're deer and rabbits and things 504 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.480 cross over, you might find a big Foot using that same game trail. 505 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.039 Okay, the fall the game for one thing, and go you know where 506 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.559 power lines go through too, where these high tension towers. My guess is 507 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:44.679 they walk alongside the hillside on these where the high tension towers, or that 508 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.920 there's a swath cut through the woods. So what you do. You go, 509 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.320 if you want to sit, you go up there, and you make 510 00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:54.199 sure you don't wear any strong soap or after shave because they have super smell 511 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.480 as well. Apparently you don't want to alert them. You know. The 512 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.840 best thing you can probably do is get some your scent and put it on 513 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.280 you yeah, okay, and go sit up in the top of a tree 514 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.239 somewhere, maybe good twenty feet up okay, and just keep quiet, don't 515 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.320 move, have your camera at hand or whatever you have, you know. 516 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.360 Okay, same thing with the game cameras. A lot of people put their 517 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.719 game cameras up between six and eight feet up. Okay. Big Foot apparently 518 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.800 knows what those things are, and sometimes they've dismail them and destroy them, 519 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:28.239 or they just walk behind them so they won't see anything. So what you 520 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.199 do you take, say you have six game trail cameras. What you do 521 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:35.639 if you're going to be on a set of power lines, you stagger them. 522 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.719 You stagger and put them up about twelve feet, till them down, 523 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:43.000 but stagger them so they're across from each other. Okay, all the way 524 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.239 up and just watch, don't move, and you might catch something. Okay. 525 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.760 The other thing too, I don't believe in taking a lot of people 526 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.519 into the woods with me. The more people there's more chance annoying. I've 527 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.559 had so many people asked to go with me because they get excited about the 528 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.360 concept and maybe seeing a big foot. Well yeah, well I'm not going 529 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.199 to see a big foot with a bunch of people gacking and carrying on all 530 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.079 exciting. You know. I'm not going to do that. I might take 531 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.679 one or two people with me and spread out. But here's the thing I 532 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.719 want to say about that too. You know you're dealing with something very powerful 533 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.360 could easily rip you in a half, or do whatever it wants to for 534 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.840 that matter. So if you're going to go into the woods, you let 535 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.719 somebody know what time you're going into the woods and what time to expect you 536 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:29.920 back. Okay, you make sure that you have somebody checking up on you 537 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.079 at certain hours of the day or whatever hours of the night you're going to 538 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.719 be out there, you know, having a little ear plug in your ear 539 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.519 so you can hear them. But the Bigfoot can hear you talking back and 540 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:44.840 forth or something, or text or something. But you also need a good 541 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:50.079 setup. I would say the night vision goggles something like that, because if 542 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.480 you don't have that, we're already a limited human beings only seen in a 543 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:58.599 very narrow spectrum. So we need something to help us. We need an 544 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.440 edge, and you're not going to get an edge with your own eyes. 545 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.800 Now. Recently, I just had both my eyes done, so I have 546 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.559 twenty twenty vision of both my eyes again. But even so, you know 547 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.599 you're gonna remember, this is a creature. It's adapted to the environment it's 548 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:15.320 in. Okay, Now, if I had to say again, I'm going 549 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:19.000 to digress a little bit here. I had mentioned about them maybe not being 550 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.000 from Earth. Okay, maybe they were brought here many many years ago, 551 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:27.599 who knows. Okay, let's look at their biology. Big powerful cover, 552 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:32.199 long hair, excellent night vision, hearing, smell okay, and intelligence okay, 553 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.400 being they're seen in the daytime, but they're also seemed to be out 554 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.000 more to night. So let's just say, for the same argument, they're 555 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.599 from another world and they were brought here thousands of years ago because they've been 556 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.039 around a long time. So let's take them. Think about what their world 557 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:51.079 might be like. Well, okay, maybe they're not the talk predator on 558 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.559 their planet because they can climb trees. We know they can climb trees. 559 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.280 Okay, they have an excellent night vision, so maybe their world is around 560 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:04.519 a dim star, and maybe third daytime is twilight compared to like our twilight. 561 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.679 They have long fur, so their planet might be colder. Okay, 562 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.840 what do they eat, Well, they're on a divorce, so they eat 563 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.679 both. So that's why they survived. Some law. When you're locked into 564 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.679 a specific thing as an apex predator, just like the Dinosaurs War, you're 565 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.239 not going to be around very long if your meat supply, if you're a 566 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.760 meat eater isn't around, right, and if there's no plants, you're not 567 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.960 going to be around very long if you're a plant eater. So they've learned 568 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.519 to adapt and if they do both okay, So that's not my point being 569 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:38.960 is that these are creatures are ultimately and supremely adapted to their environment wherever they're 570 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.800 from. Now, is there a possibility they've evolved on Earth? Yeah, 571 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.760 there's a possibility. Every day we you know, people seem to discover new 572 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.280 home and a type of species. For this thing to be around, so 573 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.880 long it developed intelligence, you can live in practically any environment. The only 574 00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:01.360 environment I haven't heard of living in is like the desert, even though there's 575 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.360 the Yawie in Australia. I mean it's sort of the desert at different places, 576 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.480 but they've learned to live there too. So this creature has adapted to 577 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.960 anything it wants to live in or to do. You know, John, 578 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.159 really, I believe he touched on a little bit. I believe a big, 579 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.119 big part of their diet is fish. What do you think? What's 580 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.719 that again? Wayne? I believe a huge part of their diet is fish. 581 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.880 What do you think? Oh? Yeah, yeah, just like the 582 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.960 grizzly bear and the kodiak ground there right right, you know they I just 583 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:37.199 read a survey the other day. They were talking about the larger bears are 584 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:42.480 the Kodiak bears because they live close to the coast and waterways where they get 585 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.199 more of a protein intake from the fish, whereas the grizzly beer has to 586 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.519 go out and really hunting berries and meat, but most of the berries and 587 00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.039 things in nature or whatever. But so they're actually larger by and bye. 588 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:59.159 I guess fifteen to twenty percent in the inland there. So yeah, stay 589 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.880 tuned for more squat out to see. Will be right back after these messages. 590 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:09.159 Now. I want to say something about that too. I've heard estimates 591 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:15.000 of big foot size anywhere from three feet to fifteen feet or more. I 592 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.760 don't know. I gotta say this. I saw a ten footer and that 593 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.360 I'm sure I was ten feet talk because I measured where I was leaning against 594 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.519 the high tension tire. Fifteen feet, I don't know. I have to 595 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.639 say that. I find that harder. It's hard to squaw. Yeah, 596 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.320 I don't buy it. I don't buy it at all. I think ten 597 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:36.039 eleven feet maybe be the max. I just can't. I mean, there's 598 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.719 I've even heard estimates even bigger than twenty feet or so. And then I 599 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.559 look on Facebook and I see people drawing pictures of Victo looks like a miniature 600 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.400 King Colin running around. Really, and this is the thing I'm talking about. 601 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.360 I mean, in this genre and now all paranormal field. For serious 602 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.840 investigators and researchers, it does us a great disservice when we have people to 603 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:01.760 come in and they put all kind of crazy post on or make up crazy 604 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.159 stories or the UCGI effects, or they put on perilla suits and go running 605 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.760 around the wood where you have these TV shows on where people out there are 606 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:15.000 half drunk and running your corn fields weapons on. It's just crazy. John, 607 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:19.280 I'm really glad that you brought that up, because there are so many 608 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:23.239 things out there that are doing a just justice to this field. It's already 609 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:29.159 very very hard for us to be taken serious by the scientific community. When 610 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.760 we're talking about an eight nine ten ft hair covered being in the woods that 611 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.920 we haven't caught up with, most of the scientists are laughing at us. 612 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:38.719 It's a big joke. And then you've got people doing the stuff that you 613 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:45.039 just mentioned, drawing the twenty five foot beings, and another thing that's killing 614 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:51.079 us, the paradoia. In my opinion, it's killing us these people that 615 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:57.280 will take a picture of the woodline and then start drawing red circles around every 616 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.360 shadow that they see. Look there's one, or out there there's a boot, 617 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.440 or do you see him he's he's smiling at me. Look at this 618 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.079 one. He's mad and here's a baby one. I mean, it's garbage 619 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.400 in my opinion, and it's doing nothing but hurting us. Well you know, 620 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.599 and I agree, and I hate I don't want to mention the name 621 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.280 person's name in particular. There is one group that gets a lot of TV 622 00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.800 time and stuff and they air it a lot, and it seems on the 623 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.800 group. The leader of this group, and he has some professionals in there 624 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:29.039 too, but him and one of his co investigators, at every turn they 625 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.760 see bigfoot signs and hear bigfoot. You know, they're out there making whooping 626 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.360 sounds and everything else. But it's crazy. I do I have seen those 627 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.400 things you're talking about by the where they put red circles and they're saying this 628 00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:44.039 is a big foot. Well yeah, we're not really taken seriously. And 629 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.320 for those in the feel like the more educated, the like Cliff Barakman and 630 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.760 doctor Jeff Melbroun and stuff, These are respective people. These are scientists that 631 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.519 I'm trying to get a scientific take on these preachers DNA. I mean, 632 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.599 I saw a special was about six or seven months ago, I think was 633 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.800 where they brought a DNA expert. Can go up to a creek where big 634 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.920 foot was allegedly seen and take some samples in the creek and see if you 635 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:14.360 know of and maybe find some unknown DNA probably a bigfoot. I don't know 636 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.800 if you saw that or not, but a more scientific approach should be used. 637 00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.440 Speaking of which being, the big foot can travel so far and so 638 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.199 fast, and human beings can't keep up with it. Okay, there's been 639 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:29.440 some questions about using drones, and I'll tell you the truth. I like 640 00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.760 that idea because drones can travel a lot faster and a lot further, especially 641 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.119 the ones with the infrared and night vision capability. Okay, that can help 642 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.280 you out too, and also provide your safety, because what if you think 643 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.480 you're tracking a big foot and damn grizzly bear. Yeah, okay, who's 644 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.480 the predator? Who's the prayer? You know you're the prey when you're in 645 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.880 the woods. Human beings, and we don't have an edge unless we have 646 00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.039 a weapon, okay, period, and then we can get ambushed pretty easily. 647 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:59.599 So I like the drone idea, but I would suggest something even one 648 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:05.719 more thing, taking heather a balloon, like a rigid tape balloon, you 649 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.239 know, in the air with night vision capability. I mean, yeah, 650 00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.840 you're gonna get some play because of win, but try to tether it as 651 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:15.599 best you can to a treat or something so it doesn't move or very moves 652 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.519 very little, and maybe you'll pick something up that way through on a game 653 00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.480 trail or on these pathways through the force where high tension towers are at and 654 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.119 you've got them everywhere around something like that. You got to bring more technology 655 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.880 into the field. Yeah, you know, John, I'm sorry to interrupt 656 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.440 you there, and I agree with you, and I've said it a couple 657 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.400 of times. I think it's very possible that our next good footage of a 658 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:42.079 sasquatch could come from a drone. I really believe that, and I believe 659 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.599 that we need to utilize some of this technology that we have now. But 660 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.559 what's the best piece of evidence that we have right now, in my opinion, 661 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.599 that most is the Paterson Giblin film. What did those guys. What 662 00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:59.639 were they doing? They were on horseback. I think there's something with horses. 663 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.239 Think that there's a connection between big boot and horses. I don't know 664 00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:07.480 if they're attracted to them if I just I don't know what it is. 665 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:13.039 But I strongly, strongly believe that if someone were to set up an expedition 666 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.480 similar to what Patterson and Gimblin did and go out on horseback, just a 667 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:22.480 couple of guys and go ride around California mountains north northern California like they did, 668 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.960 I believe that they might get something else because I really really believe that 669 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.199 they were able to get this footage because Patty was fascinated by the horse, 670 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.239 the horses that they were on. She would yeah, their sense were covered 671 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.199 up, they were masked by the horse. I believe. I believe Patty 672 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.639 smelled the horses. She came out to investigate. Oh crap, there's a 673 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:46.039 couple of cowboys on them horses. I gotta go. I believe that's how 674 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:49.639 they got it. What do you think? I kind of agree with you 675 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.639 on that, I really do. I think that that's a good point to 676 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.639 be made because we know that like Native American used to take horses and they 677 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.320 laid to the side of them. On the side of them, they could 678 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.320 walk right up to a buffalo maybe and kill a buffalo. Yeah, because 679 00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.159 they were you know, the buffalo recognized the horses nod threatening, but the 680 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:12.320 human being was covered up by they can't differentiate because they don't have the intelligence. 681 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:14.880 So yeah, I kind of agree with you on that a lot, 682 00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.159 actually, But seeing not everybody goes out on horses, like I said, 683 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.400 what you see now mostly with people that are doing these investigations. They're taking 684 00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:28.079 and they're walking through the woods making a crap ton of noise And I don't 685 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.639 care how quiet you are as a human being. You had a camera crew 686 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.840 out there, you know darnwell, they're making noise the whole time. So 687 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.000 what are you gonna do. That's why I really don't like and believe in 688 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.039 taking a bunch of people with if you aren't going to have a bunch of 689 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.199 people. You know, they hunt tigers, right, they have beaters. 690 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:49.360 They go through the brush and they beat these and they scare of the tigers 691 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.719 out. Well, I'm not saying do that, but what I would do 692 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:57.360 to say I had ten people, I would surround a certain area and work 693 00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.639 inward very slowly, or just sit an make a giant circle and just sit 694 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:06.119 around with your technology and watch. This way you can keep an eye on 695 00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.039 a bigger, wider area without making a ton of noise, and maybe something 696 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.840 will cross through there. Maybe not. But I gotta tell you this too, 697 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.800 when I've been on cases in the past, and I believe somebody actually 698 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.239 saw a big foot type of creature, but I haven't seen it myself, 699 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.840 and there's no real evidence. I have to go by what they say and 700 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.199 how they present that their story to me. So the best I can ever 701 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:34.519 say in any investigation without proof, actual physical proof. Okay, they saw 702 00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.719 something, that's it, and I believe them. I'll tell them. I 703 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.159 believe them. On the other hand, like you said with Paradia, I 704 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.960 mean, people see things like you've been in the woods, Wayne, I 705 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:45.000 know you have. You're in West Virgina. I knew Dorrin. Will you 706 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.440 guys are in the woods. Okay, dude, there's a lot of tree 707 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.320 fall in the woods, right, and sometimes they come down they make like 708 00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.159 a teepee looking thing, right, Okay, that's just the way trees fall. 709 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.920 They fall in all different ways. But there's people out there that see 710 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:01.800 a tree fall, and I'll say Bigfoot made it. Okay, aloney, 711 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:07.119 Okay, he might make it sometimes, but not all the time. Okay. 712 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.639 I believe they keep on the move pretty much, and they might find 713 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:14.320 some shelter under a tree or something. But buy and large, I don't 714 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:17.760 think they stop to make all these little tepe type things that people say they 715 00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:22.840 do. I don't buy that either. Again, the best I can ever 716 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.719 say without physical proof is that if I believe someone with them, look, 717 00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.000 I believe you. I know you believe it. And I try to give 718 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.039 a person when I do an investigation a major of closure, and sometimes that's 719 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.519 all people need to have. Just with any other type of paranormal investigation in 720 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.920 this field alone, Okay, you really don't. I think about this for 721 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:45.280 a second, in any genre of the paranormal, what physical proof do we 722 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:52.320 actually have other than maybe some blurry pictures or videotapes or some I don't know, 723 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.400 maybe if we're lucky, a hair sample. Okay, we really don't 724 00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:00.159 have any hard physical evidence or anything. So the most we can do we 725 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.840 do investigations for people who've actually believed they see something, they just say at 726 00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.119 the end of the investigation. I believe you. I think what you saw 727 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.679 was real, and I try to give them that validation in a major closure. 728 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.280 Okay, And for those that have seen Bigfoot, there's a lot of 729 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.320 people out there have probably have seen it, and it won't come forward simply 730 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:22.039 because of what we talked about earlier. Other people in this that go out 731 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.960 there and they make light of the situation. For instance, at the height 732 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:30.360 of those bigfootcases, those over five hundred that I investigated, I got invited 733 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:36.719 to do a special on TV, an hour half an hour special, and 734 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.840 I was going to do it until that evening when the broadcast came on the 735 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:45.119 Channel six news that for that investigation. I didn't a Crescent Heights that this 736 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.199 TV station wanted me to do this, but they were making fun of it, 737 00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.880 sort of light of it. And that's the time. Remember when we 738 00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.920 were selling bigfoot pizza. Remember that years ago. Yeah, you're a lot 739 00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.880 younger than me, okay, but they used to sell something called bigfoot pizza. 740 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.920 So they got on TV and right after that they were showing this commercial 741 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.039 for bigfoot pizza, and so everybody was laughing about it. So guess what 742 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.719 I did. I didn't do this special. And I won't do this special 743 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:14.840 because I'm a serious investigator. I don't play games. I try to do 744 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.559 the best I can. I use a scientific technique, but I also use 745 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.920 common sense techniques as well. I know for a fact, if you go 746 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.800 into the woods looking for trouble, you're gonna find it. Okay, Just 747 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.960 this past summer, my wife and I went down we did a moth Man 748 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.280 investigation down a point pleasant. I'm gonna. I don't know, I might 749 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.599 go back down here this summer. I don't know that I did one thirty 750 00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.679 years ago or over thirty years ago when John killed I met John kill personal. 751 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.960 But anyhow, getting off the subject. But the thing is is, 752 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.239 I don't like to take a lot of people with me. I know that 753 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.599 you have to use common sense techniques. You can't go out and making a 754 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.360 lot of noise in the woods. Don't take weapons. If you're gonna, 755 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.480 if you must take something with you, take bear spray. It works on 756 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:58.119 everything. It works on bears, it works on deer, it'll work on 757 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.000 a rapid creature. It'll work on a human being. And you know you 758 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:07.159 live in West Virginia. You know where I'm in. I'm actually in Tennessee. 759 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.119 John, Oh you're in Tennessee. Oh my goodness. Okay, well 760 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.519 Tennessee. Then, well still I think you're close to the Appalachian Trail, 761 00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.880 are you not. Yeah? Okay, Well you know we've had a lot 762 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.840 of people get killed on that trail too. Yeah, Vick, what's not 763 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.760 the one killing them, it's other people. So you know, if you're 764 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.039 going to go out in the woods, at the most I'd say take do 765 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:29.239 use the techniques I talked about earlier. You know, let people know when 766 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:31.599 you're gonna be out when you went into that kind of thing, check up 767 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:36.760 on you, and take yourself some bearrass break. Now, I'm not saying 768 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:40.119 don't take a side arm, but not for big Foot exactly. Yeah, 769 00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:44.880 don't taken don't take a side arm. It's I don't believe in taking a 770 00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.639 weapon like that into the woods, like I says, But just use comments 771 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.199 sense techniques now, I mean, so, how can I put this? 772 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:54.519 You have a lot of different sizes for big Foot too. I mean you 773 00:51:54.599 --> 00:52:00.119 have the Jetty and the him malays is not as big in height as the 774 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:07.400 American Sasquad Watch or big Foot, but it's meaner, it's more violent, 775 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:12.320 it's been known to kill people. Supposedly, even when Sir Edmund Hillary found 776 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.960 those tracks and stuff in the mountains and stuff, it was around their ten 777 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.280 areas and stuff. But when they talk to the people live in that area 778 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:23.519 in the Tibet that they were talking about the year and the jetty and how 779 00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:28.159 dangerous they are. But it's not as big, it seems. A maximum 780 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.920 size for the American big Foot and overall would be about I would think, 781 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.599 of my opinion, about ten foot. That's about it. Maybe a little 782 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.519 bit more, but generally less. Females of course, are generally smaller. 783 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.239 You know. The one that the Gamblin saw was about eight foot. It 784 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.119 was female, obviously you could clearly see its pressed. But where there's a 785 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.480 female, there's a male. It has to be a breeding population, correct. 786 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.480 Yeah, okay, So, and I don't know if you've seen the 787 00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.199 map. I might send you a copy of the map that I have of 788 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.800 where most big food sightings take place. But it's down through your area in 789 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.920 mind, as well as well as the West coast, and you know, 790 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:13.119 so they're everywhere. They seem to prefer colder climates for the most part. 791 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.920 They like more wooded areas for the most part. And like I said earlier, 792 00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:22.159 the West coast ones are more aggressive it seems, and territorial, very 793 00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:28.000 territorial, whereas the East Coast ones have learned to adapt and live within urban 794 00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:31.639 areas much more. Yeah, so you have some questions of me. I 795 00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:37.519 do have one that I'm interested to get your opinion on. And then you 796 00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.599 know, we're coming up on the hour, so we're gonna have to get 797 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.000 out of here after that one. But I'm going to have you back, 798 00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.519 as we said, to talk about some more. But I'll try to keep 799 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.599 all my episodes around the power mark. But I do want your opinion. 800 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.719 Is it going to take a body for science to recognize this thing? Finally? 801 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:58.960 Is someone going to have to present a body? Well, that's a 802 00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:02.280 good question and I got pretty good answer. It's been my understanding that the 803 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.360 US Force Service after a fire in the state of California to recover a human 804 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.039 or a bigfoot body, and the government came in and took it. Yeah. 805 00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:13.599 Now how truthful is this, I don't know for sure, but it 806 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:17.079 came out and behind every story got to be some facts somewhere. Is it 807 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:23.800 going to take an actual body? Unfortunately? Yes, okay if you're you 808 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.639 know, And but I hope it's not going to be the kind of where 809 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.159 people go out there a bunch of goofballs with a bunch of guns and go 810 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:34.000 out and shoot when they're drunk and stuff and do that kind of nonsense. 811 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.639 Because you know yourself, Wayne, if you shooting wound to bear, what 812 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.360 happens to that bear? You know, if you it's gonna yeah, get 813 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.639 you're gonna piss it off. Yeah, he gets mean. And what's he 814 00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:47.599 do later on when he runs into people. Yeah, he's gonna attack him. 815 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:51.719 Okay, and he's gonna teach and he's gonna learn. He's gonna teach 816 00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:55.719 the maybe young ones to be more aggressive to toward human beings. Okay, 817 00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.559 I'm in the opinion if you leave them and they're gonna leave you a lot. 818 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.880 Hey. Now, there are stories where people have left food for Bigfoot 819 00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.559 and they've come and taken like apples and things of this nature and stuff and 820 00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.760 shown kindness. Some people said they've seen them over a period of years, 821 00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:14.880 and I kind of believe that, you know, But there's a state in 822 00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.360 the United States right now, I'm not sure. I can't remember if it's 823 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:20.960 Utah or whatever they got to boundy out. I think it's a million dollars 824 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.840 if somebody kills them or kills a big point with Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Yeah, 825 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:29.360 okay, Oklahoma, that's crazy. So you're gonna be out hunting an 826 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.119 animal or not even an animal, you're gonna have there, it's murder as 827 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.960 far as I'm concerned. Yeah, you know you're gonna kill something. It's 828 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:38.880 intelligent that it's not bothering. You leave it alone. Now, Yeah, 829 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:42.360 I got one more thing, or actually a couple of things sitting on the 830 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.079 Let you go, because I have things to do. But when a big 831 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:49.559 foot dies, what happens to the body? So going back into Earth, 832 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.679 I would say, well, yeah, but okay, then that implies they 833 00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:57.800 bury their dead. You know that ancient man they used to think that Neanderthals 834 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:02.000 were very primitive and or trade them as more animalistic and things. But they 835 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:07.880 know through digs and through paleontology now in archaeology, that the Neanderthals used to 836 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:13.119 bury their dead and do ritual religious ceremonies for them. So but let's say 837 00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:16.400 say this for a sacred argument, and let's the bigfoot kind of like disintegrates 838 00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:21.639 immediately after death, which I kind of doubt. Is it possible that they 839 00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:25.920 did do ritual cannibalism? Possible? Think Okay, I mean I don't know. 840 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.119 I mean, no one to my knowledge has recovered a bigfoot body. 841 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.559 Okay, nobody, you know, no one came forward. Let's put it 842 00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:37.039 that way. I think that that's more likely story. They bury their dead, 843 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.360 but they must bury them in really inaccessible places or something, you know, 844 00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:44.880 because like I said, there's no one to my knowledge is actually found 845 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:50.360 them a bigfoot body. However, the Native Americans have you probably heard the 846 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:55.000 Red Giants out west. They had a battle with supposedly with these giant creatures. 847 00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:59.800 And then there was the story in Afghanistan where the United States troops. 848 00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:04.480 Now again this is all conjecture, we don't know for sure. Supposedly this 849 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:08.519 Candahar I think it was called the Candahar Giant, and they had to kill 850 00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:13.320 this thing, but not until it already killed several of our troops. Okay. 851 00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.960 So now Afghanistan is known for its cave systems. That's how they beat 852 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:21.480 the Russians back in the nineteen seventy nine. They used to hide in these 853 00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:24.840 caves and the Russians couldn't get at them. But anyhow, so I don't 854 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.920 know. Like I says, they could bury them, they could eat them 855 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.840 ritualistically. I don't know. I have no idea, I mean, but 856 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:37.679 I mean when we know, they leave scats just like any animal does, 857 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.880 so they have a digestis system. You know. It must be pretty good 858 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.679 one too, because it can eat anyone. So I really don't know. 859 00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.760 As far as their family units, I'd say that their family units are small. 860 00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.920 They keep them small, you know, so they can move around much 861 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.880 more, and there's not large encampments of them anywhere. They need a breeding 862 00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:59.000 population, so they must value their females a lot more, and they're young. 863 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:04.559 We're leaving some open areas for the next time we talk. We're run 864 00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.199 out of time on this one, John, But okay, no problem. 865 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:12.559 You have opened my eyes to a lot of different things and made some really 866 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.360 really good suggestions. I'm glad we were able to get this done. I 867 00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:16.920 appreciate it, buddy. Well, no problem. Way, Like I said, 868 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:20.320 just give me a holler when you want me to do something else. 869 00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.440 We can continue this and then move into another stopic too, because, believe 870 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:27.760 me, over five thousand cases worth I've been on it, and it's a 871 00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.599 it's a really interesting thing. And there's an old thing. There are more 872 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.000 things in heaven and hell than you can imagine. Well there is, and 873 00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.119 we've only solve a very small part of what's going on on this planet. 874 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.719 Yeah, for sure, we might need to do a part two with the 875 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:43.920 big foot stuff before we move into the other stuff, because I got some 876 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.519 ideas myself. Well, I'll be happy to hear him at some point. 877 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.719 But listen, it's been nice talking with you today, and I hope you 878 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.639 enjoyed the talk. All right, thank you, but we'll be in touch, 879 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:57.719 all right, thank her. Bye bye, bye bye. They say 880 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:07.159 you don't gotta go, oh, but you can't stay, and I don't 881 00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:35.119 want to be alone. We're all out that time, this time, that 882 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:40.199 time everything. Call it right back, right back, my joy for me. 883 00:59:42.159 --> 01:00:32.719 Try to stay right now. I'm coming right away. Black Black play 884 01:00:34.519 --> 01:01:01.199 comfortable pass m hm. Remember