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Returning to the show. This week, we have Casey Darren. How are

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you, Casey doing wonderful? How
are you doing this morning? Good good

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from the band Soda and as you
tell us what you've been up to since

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you were here last as I try
to make sure your mic is up here.

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Absolutely. Yeah. Well, the
last month has been extremely busy.

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I just hopped off a tour with
a band called The Defiant. Yes,

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The Defiant is a supergroup that consists
of Dicky Barrett from The Mighty Mighty Bosstones,

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Pete Parata from The Offspring, Greg
Camp from smash Mouth, Johnny Rio

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from Street Dogs, and Joey Larroca
from The Briggs. So we did a

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month long tour. We started in
Chicago, we went up to Canada,

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did a couple of dates up there, came through New England, hit the

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Hometown hit Boston which was very nice, and then we made all our way

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all the way down to Florida and
we did three dates in Florida. Wow,

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the Boston show must have been nuts. It was great. It was

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great. Well, you have Dicky
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and then Johnny Rio of the Street
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a lot of support out there and
it was a great hometown show. Yeah.

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Yeah, very cool. How many
how many dates? Oh? I

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think there were about twenty one dates
maybe in the span of about three and

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a half weeks. Wow. Yeah, yeah, very cool. What is

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the defiant? Are they continuing on
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Yeah? No. So they they
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the dissolving of their own respective bands. Yeah, and this kind of took

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hold. They all had, you
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the idea that they all wanted to
promote love, unity, togetherness and

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to bridge the divide that's in our
country right now. Yeah. So they

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came together, put out this album, had a very successful tour with me

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first in the Gimme Gimmes played probably
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if not more. Yeah, and
I know that they have more stuff on

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the way. I can't obviously talk
too much about that, but I know

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that this is not it's not a
one off thingy. They are a full

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band. Yeah, very cool.
Cool, And you have a brand new

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single, so you brought your guitar. You're gonna play live for us,

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But first we have a world radio
premiere and what should we know about this

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track Division Line. So I wrote
this track probably about three years ago.

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This was in the midst of COVID
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we weren't out really out in the
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was getting really frustrated with all the
hatred I was seeing online about everything.

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People couldn't speak to each other civilly. Everything was an argument it still is

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online and that really frustrated me,
and people were getting their own personal politics

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involved in things that just shouldn't have
been political anything like any conversation turned like

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one way or the other. So
this song kind of expressed my frustrations about

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that. And then about two years
later, last year, I wrote a

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whole extra verse after yet another school
shooting in America, and I was getting

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so frustrating is I thought to myself, we have these people online who are

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fighting about every single thing, getting
their own personal politics in the way,

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and they're ignoring the fact there are
much bigger issues in our country, the

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safety of our children, and it
really hurt me and it made me sad,

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and I needed to channel that in
some way. So I wrote this

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song. When I wrote it three
years ago, I had Dicky Barrett in

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mind, I said no, no, I would love to have him on

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this song. At that point,
I didn't really know him. Yeah,

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come three years later, we're really
good friends and he's on the track,

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and I'm just so happy to have
him. That's amazing. So Dicky Barrett

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from the Bostones and of course now
the define he's actually on the track.

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He is on the track. He
does some nice guest vocals and he sings

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at the end of the song.
Wow. He's also in the music video

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too. Oh awesome, that's awesome. Congratulations, like, all right you

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well. So this is the world
radio premiere of the new track Division Line,

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Casey Darren. Of course the band
is Soda sot Ah. I would

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like to spell it for everybody.
I do the same. Yeah, I

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appreciate it. And then case he's
gonna play live for us in a little

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bit. But let's give this a
listen without further ado, here it is.

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This is called Division Line. Someone
trust fun. Lately the world is

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being so unjust. They've wanted some
when we blame it on each other,

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they destroyed all our families, all
us sisters. Then I'm rather's de posterity

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individually it's quickly weakening on humanity.
No, my unity, don't that for

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you with me? Landon is braved
where no w spree like you don't know

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it's not the tree what you're telling
me reality. She like you, but

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I don't know what to do.
It's hard as me that it's part than

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you. It makes you feel so
cold, so I said it like your

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runners don't know want to turn to. So you're lying in the gutter to

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see up on the throats dollabit against
each other. Now the red of it

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just CAUs the spread of it.
You don't increason now you are the heretan.

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And if you don't command, you
know the trouble bed so much that

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you're the man you say. Teachers
preach up to the dustie believe the everywhere

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they speak, predress bills and foss
the heads. The kings go out to

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the count there that the trict to
old worlds be because keeps placing in ll

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streets, the Hundred's districts in lockdown
with children scattered on the ground. Five

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Summer from shot to take from her
Bot Clanton and and Spose convictions a couple

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with grand the lad Suns have set
each other strokes, call Kistuna files,

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the cover up three dot Just what
extends to their tests? You know it's

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not with Boston Highest together we could
read the fire to get up on your

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head glass because the body we fall
together, we start a side. And

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I know it's not the truth.
What's telling me a reality? A scene?

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Right? And I don't know what
to do? Yes, hurting me?

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Let's hurting you? Send and I
know it's not the truth. What's

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telling me a reality? A scene? Right? And I don't know what

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to do? Yes, hurting me? That is hurting you. The Gun

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Violence Archive reported over six hundred American
match moving in year two thousand twenty three

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alone, with over forty three thousand
unrelated Jack there is no time for debate,

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the time for lovers now, the
time for eight never there. It

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is the World Radio Premiere Division line. The band is Soda and we have

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Casey Darren here with us live in
studio. And well done. Oh,

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thank you very much, thank you, absolutely very very catchy. And of

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course you know it's got a message. And yeah, how did so the

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process of Dicky Barrett being on the
track, how did that come about?

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friendship with him and a professional relationship as

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well, But I mean, did
you did you approach him with it or

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how did how did that come about? So my very first Soda single was

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an acoustic cover of a Mighty Mighty
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it to a Bostones Facebook fan group
or something like that, and I know

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that some of the members of the
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somebody saw it. And I know
Dicky controls all the Boston social media,

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so I think this was twenty twenty
one, pre Bostones breakup, and he

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shared my video and my acoustic cover
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was like, wow, that is
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And then a few months later I
released my first single, Dying Breath,

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and one day I get a text
from Dickie saying, this is awesome.

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Keep it up, You're doing great. And I have like a couple of

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connect within the music world that who
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of them gave Dickie my number,
But it was just out of the blue,

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Wow. And then around that time, the Bostones broke up, and at

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the time, Dickie came out that
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which was very it was very divided, like people had their opinions about

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that. For me, I grew
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love, compassion, and unity his
whole life. Everything that in his core,

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his message was always about uniting people, bringing people together. He was

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never one of those people, in
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controversial figure. He's just a pure
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genuine and loved his fans, loved
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the future. And when it came
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COVID shot, the internet just started
attacking him. Everyone was just so angry

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about it, and I kind of
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whoa whoa whoa like And these people
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gonna listen to the Bostones again.
I'm never gonna listen to him again.

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Everything he said was a lie,
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couldn't see how the two were related. Like, I saw Dickie in the

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midst of COVID. He moved from
California. He was on the announcer for

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the Jimmy Kimmel Show. I had
forgotten about that. Yeah, yeah,

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So in the midst of COVID when
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I'm gonna do my part. He
moved out of la He moved to Arizona

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in a tiny, little remote area
with his family, got his kids away

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from the hustle and bustle of the
city because he didn't want to spread He

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didn't want to spread COVID. He
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he you know, he isolated as
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have, as we as many of
us tried to do. But he was

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also concerned about the COVID shot.
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feel like in this world, we
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We shouldn't like people have their concerns. That's okay. If you want to

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get the shot, oh my god, like by all means, thank you,

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But if you don't, like,
don't chastise somebody for it. That's

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just my opinion. So it was
really hard to see the world attacking this

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man who had promoted such good values
for the past thirty years, forty years

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of being in that band. It
was hard for me and I was seeing

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all the negativity online and I wrote
the song and I was like, I

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would really love Dicky to sing on
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about my thoughts about the division at
the time and Dicky Barrett. So as

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time went on, I started interacting
with him a little more. I started

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making some of the music videos for
The Defiant and it got to the point

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where he was like, could could
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New Hampshire. So we did a
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Dicky and Johnny Rio came out and
it was a great little show. SOA

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played, we had a couple other
bands play as well, and while he

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was here, I brought him into
my family is home. We did some

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rehearsals and stuff like that, and
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have this song. Would you be
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And he has been so supportive of

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me as a person. He's so
supportive of everyone, and it's been very

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nice to you know, to work
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level. And I have to say
I went on this tour with The Defiant

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and I was unsure of how it
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said, these past few years,
he's gotten a lot of hatred online.

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Yeah, I went out into the
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the outpouring of love and support from
everyone who came in was unreal. And

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it kind of clicked with me last
month that the hatred you see online on

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the internet is not indicative of the
real world situation at all. Yeah.

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I agree, because I think that,

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you know, people are well.
For one thing, people will say things

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to each other online that they would
never say never, never ever, because

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they're hiding behind a glass wall.
They're not really interacting with that person,

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right, so they can say whatever
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it was like, I can't tell
you how refreshing it was to go and

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meet these people face to face have
genuine conversations. I had people who said,

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you know, I got the COVID
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they had this idea that like Dicky
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and I was like, no,
that's not what it is at all.

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We all have our own decisions,
we all did our own things, and

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we can still unite and be together
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know, like we people didn't make
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to create like drama. It was
never that right. People had their own

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reasons, and I just I think
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that you could, you know,
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your heart and like, you know, so being out on the road and

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seeing that compassion and love from the
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a dream come true, to be
honest with you. Yeah. Well,

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plus I would imagine too, as
we get further away from the pandemic,

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you know, people have I mean
I don't want well, I don't want

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to get into it, but I
you know, I had. There were

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there were points where I was pretty
angry with people and how they were they

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were responding to it, we were
going through it, and I've you know,

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I've let some of that. I
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It was very hard for all of
us at that time. It was

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a very difficult place. It was
unprecedented. We had none of us had

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ever been in a situation like that. Yeah, you don't expect a plague.

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You don't. And everyone reacts to

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these situations differently. And I think
the biggest thing for me is that if

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somebody's doing something with ill will and
ill intention, then maybe you should say,

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hey, let's write. But a
big thing for me is never write

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somebody off. Somebody could have an
opinion that you don't agree with necessarily,

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but casting them aside and not having
a conversation will always let them have that

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idea in their head. If you
want to help somebody grow, you want

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to help the world grow so we
can have a more unified idea of how

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we should be going about things.
You have to have conversations, Yeah,

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and civil conversations, not shooting hate
out at people. You need to talk

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in a civil manner. Its spread
love and believe it or not, people

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who might have ignorant viewpoints on either
side of the political spectrum, you can

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help them grow. You can help
them say hey, you can help them

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learn. You know what I mean, and that was one thing that was

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a big frustration, and that's why
I wrote this song, because I wanted

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to bridge the difide and say,
hey, we can come together and if

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we spread love, we're going to
have a better future. If we spread

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hate, we're going to be the
same place we were four years ago.

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Yeah, And I think that.
Yeah, And I think you're onto something

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too, and that you know,
as you were talking to I was thinking

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about, you know, it's I
feel like it's easier than ever for people

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to you know, as you put
you know, write people off or or

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I was thinking, you know,
people just will will throw somebody away just

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based on on a different difference of
opinion, and you know, much better

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to you know, I mean,
I don't I don't worry about trying to

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convince anybody to believe what I believe. But but I do enjoy engaging in

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dialogue with people. Yes, you
know, I mean, there are there

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are some things, you know,
obviously on the extreme end of things that

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you just where you have to say, Okay, I don't think I can

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associate totally totally with this individual,
but but I think, but I think

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it's gotten far too I think it's
there's almost a laziness to it in people,

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I think, where they say,
Okay, this person, I don't

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agree with this person politically, so
I'm just going to write them off because

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I don't even want to engage with
them. And I'm guilty of it too.

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I think we all are. But
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uh, I think it's it's gotten
easier than ever for people to you know,

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it's why because when people talk about
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we've always been divided politically, sure, but but the division is is in

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the lack of interest and dialogue.
Yes, and I think it's just more

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present nowadays. We've always been divided, but the Internet amplifies that. Yeah,

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it's easier for people to just you
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yeah, for me, like I
have friends who love Biden. I have

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friends who are probably going to vote
for Trump this year, and I might

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not agree with either of them.
I might not. You know, I

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certainly don't love Trump at all,
never have. I haven't been too happy

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with Biden these past few years.
But I'm not going to judge somebody based

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on who they vote for, you
know what I mean. It's like you

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can have your reasons, as long
as you're not trying to put anyone down.

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If you're like, if you are
trying to harm somebody in your decision,

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that's where I draw the line.
Yeah, but if you're making a

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personal decision because you have your reasonings, we can still be friends. Right.

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I might not agree with you,
but I'll still be your friend.

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It's okay, you know what I
mean? Yeah? Exactly, yeah,

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well said, well said, Well, I think we should. So you

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brought your guitar. I'm dying to
hear you play live. Well, let's

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do it. What now? What
are you gonna are these? Are these

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songs that you haven't played here before? Or what are you going to play

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for us? So? I was
going to do an original and I was

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going to do a cover. Okay, I don't know if I've played this

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one live, but I was going
to play my song called Soda. I

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might have done it before. I
can't remember at this point, but it's

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a I know we did the world
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So okay, I figured, why
don't I do a little acoustic rendition?

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Oh cool, cool, very cool? If you're just joining us. Casey

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Darren from Soda is here with us
live in studio. We did the world

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radio premiere for the new track Division
Line, and Casey's going to play a

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couple live for us. Let me
see, I got to bring those other,

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not those other, that other make
up to. When you're ready,

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Casey, just go ahead and strum
a little for us, so make sure.

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Oh that sounds nice? All right? I think we're I think we're

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good. Whenever you're whenever you're ready, just go for it. Yeah.

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This is a song from my EP
Love Hate that I released last fall.

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It's a song called Soda. This
is a band called Soda. The web

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o Blas can be hot to keep
track of. You're in your head and

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your spinning your fortune. It's not
enough to know you've got them all tricked.

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You tangle it up and it makes
them so sick. One misstep and

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you've lost your footing and now you
don't even know who you're HEARDing. Could

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be them, it could be you. What does your heart tell you to

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do? You poison no water,
poison no order. But I'll be fair

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hide you poison no order, poison
no order. Yeah, I'll be fair

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hide. I don't care what you've
done to me. I'm just so mad

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you heard my family. I don't
care what the love was true. I

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know what to not that I can
do looking back, the water was cleaned

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it that'll makes sense why you dessop? Now it's turned the deep mis red

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so red the mother lies and blood
you shed. It trickles down from your

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fair It's polling faster. And were
well aware no loving soul could live like

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you did. I just hope you
found what your me. You poison the

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water, poison the water, lobby
famine, you poison the water, poison

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the water. It was your,
not Mahinde. You poison the water,

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poison the water, the lobby fahide, poison the water. A poison the

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water. It was just not mahd
You poising no water again, you poising

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no wader, my friend? Whoa
whoa, whoa, whoa boys in the

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water, boys in the water.
But I'll be fa hide poison the water,

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poison the water. Now you're not
mad? I very nice, very

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nice, Casey Darren of the band
Soda, and that song is called Soda,

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correct? Can you tell us again
the story behind that? So I

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was at a very tumultuous point in
my life around that time, I was

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going through a pretty terrible breakup and
it kind of shattered my whole world.

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I did not see it coming,
and I was just completely devastated in a

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really dark spot. And this is
one of the first songs I wrote,

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and it really so deformed as a
self healing project to get me out of

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that darkness. And I took all
my pain, I took all my sadness,

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and I channeled it into the music. So everything you hear lyrically is

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very raw. This was written,
I think probably within days of everything crumbling

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down, and my goal was I
never wanted to write anything with hate in

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my heart. Everything was out of
love and every thing was I didn't want

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to ever point fingers. I was
always like, I want to rise above

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this. I'm gonna express my emotion, but I am going to try my

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best to keep spreading love the best
I can. So the name Soda comes

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from the the Old Testament. Not
a religious person, but I kept hearing

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the phrase poison the water in my
head and I thought that's kind of interesting.

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I like that kind of sounds like
it could be something from the Bible.

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So I looked it up. I
look poison the water and I found

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out that a soda is this ritual
that was given. It was a trial

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of the poison water that was given
to somebody that was accused of adultery.

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They drank the water and they survived. They were not they were not an

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adulterer. They were fine. But
if they died, it was like,

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well they had it coming, you
know. Yeah, And I just thought

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it was so on the nose for
what I was going through at that time.

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I was like, wow, to
have that kind of like come into

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my head. Maybe I'm a little
spiritual, I don't know, but it

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just seems so serendipitous that I was
like, I think that's a cool song

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name. And then I said,
you know, it could be a cool

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band name too. So I went
on Spotify. Nobody else was called soda.

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I'm like, well, okay,
now I kind of have to do

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it because it's so hard to find
a band name nowadays, right right.

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So yeah, so that's where that
song came out of. All Right,

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Uh, you want to you want
to go and play another one while I've

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got the I've got the levels that
were I think they're good, beautiful.

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Yeah, I'm gonna do one more. This is an old cover. I've

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played this since the beginning of Soda
as well. It's a personal favorite.

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I love the band The Violent Fems. Yeah, so this is a band

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off their first record called kiss Off
Nice. I need someone, a person

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to talk to, someone who cares
to love, good, to be you,

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could it be you? Situation gets
rubbed and asked out the panic,

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it's not enough, it's just a
habit. Kid, you're sick, Well,

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Darland, this is it. You
can all just kiss off into the

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air. But I'm my back.
I can feel them stair. They're me

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bad, but I don't mind.
They are me bad. Yeah. They

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do it all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah they do it all

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the time. Yeah yeah, yeah
they do it all the time. Do

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it all the time. Yeah,
they do it all the time, do

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it all the time. I hope
you know this will go down on your

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personal record. Oh yeah, Well, don't get said distressed. Did I

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happen to mention? I'm impressed?
W dude, very good. Take one

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one one because you'll left me and
two to two for my family, had

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three, three three from my heart
ex and four four four for my headaches,

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and five five five for my only
and six six six for my sorrow

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and seven seven no no, no, no tomorrow and eight eight I forget

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what it was for but nine nine
nun for the lost content, turn ten,

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ten, ten for everything, everything, everything everything, you you know,

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this kids sping in the air.
I'm up back, I can field

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themselves. They only bad but not
oh man, they only bad. You

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had to do it all the time. Yeah, yeah, you had to

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do it all the time. Yeah. Yeah, he had to do it

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all the time. Do it all
the time. He had to do it

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all the time. Do it all
the time. You had to do it

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other time. Ta ta to U
U time. Very cool, Thank you

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so much, Thank you. Are
they still Are they still around? Are

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they still touring? Oh yeah,
original lineup and anything. My girlfriend and

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I we just saw them this past
fall and they did the first record in

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its entirety, front to back.
Yeah. They all still sound exactly the

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same, no kidding, Yeah,
Gordon Gayano, the singer voice has not

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changed in the past forty years.
Incredible concert, so good. Oh no

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kidding, Oh wow, very cool. If you're just joining us, Casey

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Darren from Soda which is s O
T a H is joining us here at

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Live in studio. He played a
couple songs for us, and earlier we

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did the world radio premiere of the
new track division Line. Now is that

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by the way, So Divisional Line? Is that going to be? Are

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you doing an album or an EP
with that? Or what's the well that's

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it's just gonna be a standalone track. I felt that the concept matter of

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that song, I didn't want to
do a whole album of that. I

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had one song to you know,
channel my frustration into. I just didn't

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want to do a full album of
that. I have an album that's written

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that I'm hoping to record this fall, maybe early next year. There's no

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really set plan for it yet.
That you know, is a different subject

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matter. So I figured division Line
would just be good as a standalone single.

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And having Dicky Barrett on it,
I was like, that's nice to

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have its own little page in history. Yeah, and did you say there's

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a video too? So last night
we did a world video premiere at Chunky

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Cinema pub right down the street.
Oh yes, yes, and it was

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incredible. Do you mind? Have
I talked a little bit about that?

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Oh? Please do? Yeah?
Yeah. So I put together a little

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fundraiser and video premiere for the song
division Line. I raised money for the

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Jason our Flood Memorial, which I
have been a part of since its inception.

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To give you a little insight on
that. The Flood family from Darry,

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New Hampshire lost their son Jason to
suicide back in twenty sixteen, and

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he was eerily similar to me.
He loved the same music. He loved

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the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones. I'm
a big fan of the Muppets, like

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this my one weird thing about me. Well, there's many weird things about

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me, but one of them is
that I love the Muppets, and Jason

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also had this passion for the Muppets. So my old band, After Image,

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we played the very first Pizza Stock
event, which was formed by the

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Flood family. Jason had always said
that he wanted to have a day long

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festival where they played music and ate
pizza. So the Floods did that in

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his honor, I want to say, in twenty seventeen, the summer after

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he died, and for them it
was going to be a one off thing,

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and then they saw the love and
support from the community that they said,

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maybe we could make something bigger with
this. They turned it into a

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nonprofit. The Jason R. Flood
Memorial, and they have since put on

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I think we're uh, We're about
to do Pizza Stock eight this summer.

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So they are wonderful people. They
have been a supporter of me my music

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since the beginning. I love them. If you're listening, Doug and Danielle,

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really you have changed my world and
I'm so appreciative for you. So

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last night we did a fundraiser and
their benefit as well as a movement called

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the Choose Love Movement. So twelve
years ago, Scarlett Lewis lost her son

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Jesse in the Sandy Hook shooting.
Oh wow, he was in second grade.

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And instead of you know, leaning
towards many destructive things, she said,

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how can I make this positive?
Incredible? She decided to create the

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Choose Love Movement, which basically has
the idea that if you instill love,

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compassion and empathy in children at a
young age, which is something that I

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think most people are born with love, but it takes a little bit of

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learning to learn empathy and compassion.
If we instill that in young kids,

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we show them how other people feel
when you make certain decisions channel in your

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emotions. How would you feel in
that situation? And it's teaching social emotional

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growth in learning in young students.
And the idea is that as time goes

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on, if they have this love
and this compassion and empathy in their hearts,

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they're probably not going to lean towards
destructive paths, whether it be drugs

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or suicide or the unimaginable things with
that happened with school shootings. It's this

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idea that if we can teach that
and let people know that they have a

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place in this world, that they
are cared for, that they are loved,

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that we can create a better world. And I found this message so

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inspiring and so in line with the
song division line that I said, I

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need to get them to be a
part of this in some way. So

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the New Hampshire state representative for the
Chews Love Movement was there last night.

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She gave a really wonderful speech explained
what Cheos Love Movement is. And I'm

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so happy that we raised five hundred
dollars last night for both groups, so

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I'm going to be donating that to
both of them. Cool. And then

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after that we had a nice series
of acoustic performances. We had Rags to

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Stitches there from the area. We
also had a band called Porcelain Jumpsuit and

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then we did an acoustic set.
Last night with Soda. We had a

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big, nice video presentation where we
premiered the music video. We made a

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couple of silly trailers, parody movie
trailers, and then we also had videos

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from the Jason R. Flood memorial
Choose Love, and I made this motivational

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video that explains what division Line is
about and how you know that message of

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unity, compassion and love. So
it was a great night. I was

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expecting we had to hit fifty people. That was like Chunky said, you

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got to get people in this door. I'm like, I was getting nervous.

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You know, Soda is a newer
band for me. I've been in

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the music scene for about eight years, and you know, you build momentum

440
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with one band, and after eight
years of being in one band, we

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got to that level where we could
host our own show. So it has

442
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,559
been around for realistically we've been around
for three years, but actively we've been

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00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,559
it's been the past year. We've
been really active. So I didn't know

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how it was going to go.
Yeah, I was like, well,

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we'll probably get fifty. I'm so
happy to say that we had over one

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00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,559
hundred people attend last night. Awesome, it was. It was sold out

447
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and I am just over the moon
that the love and support from everyone that

448
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:43,039
came in was unreal. It just
gave me a lot of gratitude and satisfaction

449
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,880
knowing that, you know, this
music thing, it might be for me.

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Yeah, I think it's something I
want to do for the rest of

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my life. So anyone who attended
last night, seriously, thank you so

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00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,239
much for being there. From the
bottom of my heart, every single person,

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it meant so much that you were
there to support. So it was

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a great event. Yeah, that's
excellent. Excellent. Now, the video

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for Division Line is Dicky Barrett in
the video. He is in the video,

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So while I was on tour with
him in the Defiant, we actually

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recorded all of his video parts in
a hotel room. Kidding, but I

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put enough layers and filters on it
that you can't even tell at all.

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So we did that, and then
Dicky was kind enough also to record a

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little intro video, so we had
a little intro before the video last night

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where he introduced the video and he
thanked everyone for being at the event.

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He's a really nice guy. He's
very down to earth, compassionate, and

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he's always been a supporter of small
artists from their inception. He's always been

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bringing out small bands that you know, might not be well known. He's

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always been that way. He took
me out on a whim with the Defiant.

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He knew that this is what I
want to do with my life.

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He knew that I hadn't been on
a tour before. The whole time I

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was on this tour, he had
a text thread going to my family.

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00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,360
He was taking pictures of me the
whole time so they could feel included in

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that we could document this exparience.
Oh wow. He kept calling it the

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punk rock School, and every time
I made a slight mistake he jokingly said,

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okay, that's a demerit. But
in the end, I do think

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I passed the punk rock School.
So it was a lot of fun and

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he's a very good person. That's
fantastic. Yeah, excellent, excellent.

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Now, so what's next for Soda? Yeah, so right now, we

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have a show planned in August.
I don't like to overload us too much

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with local shows because, as you
can imagine, you do a local show

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once every month, less and less
people come, So we're gonna have We're

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doing a festival in New Bedford.
It actually has not been announced yet,

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so I'm kind of spilling the beans
a little bit, but we're playing a

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festival in August. I believe it's
August third in New Boston, New Boston,

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00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,559
New Hampshire. And it's gonna be
a great day of music. I

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think there's gonna be all sorts of
raffles and food trucks and fun like that.

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And we will be introducing our official
lead guitarist very soon. It's been

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a long time coming. We've had
many fill in lead guitars for the entirety

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00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,239
of this band, but we very
soon we will be announcing our full final

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00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,199
line up. Oh I'm very excited. If you went to our show at

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,960
the Shaskiine, you might have caught
a little glimpse of what our lineup is

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going to be. So we've got
a lot on the way. I'm hoping

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to hit the studio this summer.
We've got another single that we demoed out

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I'm hoping to record. I'm hoping
to get that out. Tons of more

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music on the way. Like I
said, I probably have thirteen fourteen to

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fifteen songs written, ready to be
demoed out and ready to get into the

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studio. So where do where do
you record? By the way, where

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00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:45,760
was Division Line recorded? Division Line
was recorded over at right across the street

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00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,039
at the Manchester Music Mill. Oh, black Heart, Blackhart down with Eric

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00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,000
Seuter. Yeah, we had Eric
on the show. I watched that episode.

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00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,639
Yeah, it was great. Yeah, he's a really nice dude and

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00:38:54,719 --> 00:39:00,960
I actually had him and the former
lead guitar player of Baft Image, Brandon

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00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:07,039
Cursio, helps me with the mixing, mastering and engineering. Excellent. I'm

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00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,320
I'm not sure where I'm gonna go
in the future for recording. I I'm

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always trying to challenge myself, so
I've done the local level thing for a

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00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,119
few years now. I want to
branch out. I want to do bigger,

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00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,760
bigger and better. So we'll see
where that takes me. This summer,

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00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,000
I'm I'm actually gonna be going on
tour as tour manager with a local

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00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:28,079
reggae artist named Joe Samba. Phenomenal
guy, and he does a lot of

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00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,559
producing and we've had talks and maybe
we'll do something. Maybe we'll do some

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00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:35,719
sort of collaboration in the future.
With him, so we'll see the future

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00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,239
is an open book and I'm excited. Excellent, excellent, And where should

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00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,079
people go online to keep up with
everything that you're doing? So I'm on

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00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,440
everything every single social media outlet that
you can imagine. If you look up

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00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,559
Soda band, s O t a
H Band, I'm on Instagram, Facebook,

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00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,760
we have a YouTube page, we
have we have a TikTok what else

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00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,320
do we have? Everything? Everything? We're on Spotify, Apple Music,

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00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,599
all the streaming sites. So if
you want to listen of the new song

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00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:02,480
again, please go listen to it. It's live, up and running on

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00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:06,760
all the streaming sites. If you
want to see the music video that's up

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00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,760
on YouTube featuring Dicky Barrett and some
of those fun trailers that we premiered last

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00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,000
night, I will eventually be uploading
on YouTube, so keep an eye out

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00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:19,280
for those as well. Very good, very good, Well, thank you

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00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,840
so much for coming in today.
We're gonna play We're gonna play one of

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these other songs. Actually I'll let
you pick for which one you want us

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00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,679
to close with. Well, let
me let me ask you. Are you

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looking for a more a punk song
or do you want a ska song?

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00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,280
Punk all right, well, you
know what, let's split it in the

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00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,960
middle. Let's do better than you. It's a scott punk song. We'll

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00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,360
get both of us going here.
We'll do better than you, all right,

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00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:44,440
Casey Darren, thank you again so
much. Oh, thank you so

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00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,039
much. It is seriously always a
pleasure to be on the show. You

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00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,599
do a great job, both of
you, so thank you so much for

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00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,679
having me. Well, thank you. We appreciate that. And we're gonna

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00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:55,400
close with this. This is this
is actually one of my favorite This is

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better than You from Soda
