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Chun chu Un dun or dung tstry
that shot my ball. It is true.

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Think big enough for the two of
the inner world, where one man's

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truth is another man's legend. Dune, Dune, Dune. I got six

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bullets and they all have knowledge on
them. I'm gonna shoot them right between

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your mysterious eyes. Only one man
has the courage to stand up for what's

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right. My name, well,
my name is David Flora, and I'm

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was plucky sidekick Dave Stack. Oh
oh, and I reckon this here town.

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It's called photos. Ye, welcome
to the wild West of mystery.

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That's right. Facts don't go around
here, savy. Why Johnny Ringo look

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like someone just crossed over your grave. You know, that's an interesting history

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to that belief. It's a superstition. Oh man, welcome, Welcome to

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the Photos podcast. Areas we've got
We've got six shooters of goodness here for

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you. Go right at the unknown. Oh yeah, I'll bust in that

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saloon exactly. And all of a
sudden, the guy playing the jingle JANGLEU

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piano's gonna stop the piani and we're
gonna take the drunken idiot of misunderstanding and

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slide them down the bar through everybody's
drinks. Yeah, we're all gonna catch

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We're all gonna catch the clap of
understanding from the hookers in the bathroom.

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Get the doctor, Hey, doc
at the clap of knowledge again. Well,

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uh, we're continuing our flawless takeoff
of of podcast starts here for you.

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We're so good at this. Hope
everybody's doing. Okay, good show

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for you, lined up. Yeah, we're excited about this. This one's

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an interesting subject. Here it is, and we have we've decided to pack

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up our mystery machine and take a
quick flight to a Souerica in Peru.

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Nice. I was gonna say,
no lepre cons this episode. We are.

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We're gonna be talking about Nas Colligns. You guys, Nas Colligns.

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This is something that that is out
there in the world. It's it's not

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completely unknown or foreign to a lot
of people. A lot of people may

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have heard of that. Uh,
some of you may not have. H

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So that's what that's what we're talking
about it tonight. They're real interesting.

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They're really interesting culturally, they're interesting
archaeologically, they're interesting, and they this

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is one of those uh, those
fun things that it shows up in other

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arguments, It shows up in ufology, it shows up in alternate histories,

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fingerprints of the gods type stuff,
and uh, and so it's it's good.

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This is in in just on its
own. This ain't no sad dish

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dog. It's a main course.
This is a meal for a man or

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a woman. It fills the plate, It feels, it fills you up,

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it feels your soul. So we're
gonna talk about what they are,

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why maybe they are? Yeah,
theories that people have who done made them?

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Yeah, what's that all about?
What's all this business with dirt pictures?

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This episode on candy Chat, we're
gonna talk about pictures made in pixie

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sticks dust. You know, I'd
be very interested if they made nestly lines.

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I'm terrible. Oh you're just the
worst her. She ain't got nothing

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on them. Okay. Sometimes I
just dumped my next quick out and I

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just draw with it my finger.
Oh that's really delicious. Nest quick lines,

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earth quick lines like that. Y'all
seen Wreck It, Ralph. There's

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so much candy in that movie.
Get you know, it's it's we're never

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gonna get to the nasca lines.
Now you're silveran. It's usually so fealthy,

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but she was crowned. We get
it, Sarah. We think you're

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great. Jay's Louise past the pays. Oh my god. Well that's it

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for Nascalize you guys later. Oh
man, Yeah, candy trap is a

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trap. Candy trap. Candy trap
is a trap. It is what I

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was gonna say about candy trap,
so that that was a Freudian slip there,

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because you're right, it is a
candy trap, all right, you

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guys, seriously. The Nascal Lines
they're located in Perue, South America,

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YEP. Associated with culture called the
Nasca. There were people that lived there

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um Perue, usually famous for the
incons of civilization in the Andy's mouth.

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Here's what they are. They're an
elaborate system of gigantic geoglyphs that are dug

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into a plateau in the Peruvian desert
between the towns of Nasca and Palpa.

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They've been dated to four hundred BC
to six hundred and fifty CE. Yeah,

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they think that they were made anywhere
between that time period, that they're

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older than six hundred years. If
you can believe it, if you can,

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if you can, let me dig
that old crappy joke. Up the

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plateau or Pompa is over fifty miles
between the towns, and it makes a

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nice little canvas to draw on.
That's almost four hundred square miles. Yeah,

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of dessert. Now it's not just
any desert though. It's way up

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there. Yeah yeah, this is
a high desert in the Andes. The

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elevations about twelve thousand, five hundred
feet. Wow, that's that is up

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there. That's that's around that's like
top of Pike's Peak there. Yeah,

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rosph. Wow. These geoglyphs contain
hundreds of individual lines. There are geometric

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figures, and there's distinct drawings of
animals, both native and non native to

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the area, which is really interesting. Yeah. Yeah. They were created

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by scratching away the dark red volcanic
pebbles that are on the surface to reveal

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the pale yellow subsoil of sand and
clay beneath them, which is pretty lucky

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for them that they were that they
just happened to live on the gigantic high

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altitude act a sketch, Yeah,
exactly on the surface. If you're if

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you're just standing out amongst them,
it just they appear as a shallow trenches

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no more than six inches deep,
but from the air and surrounding hilltops,

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they form designs of things like birds, fish, there's a monkey, llama,

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lizard, spider deserving a human figure. And that's that's just a name

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a few. Yeah, there's geometric
patterns as well. There's some criss crossing

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lines. Yeah, there's things that
don't necessarily line up as geometric or I

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mean there's there's one. Look the
candelabra. Oh yeah, you know,

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it's it's kind of something that looks
kind of like a Poseidon's trident or something.

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Yeah, yeah, it's it's a
design, it's a it's obviously you

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know, they tried to do a
thing, but what the thing is,

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who knows. Yeah. Uh.
And and you know what else is I

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think really interesting is meteorologically, it's
it's anywhere else on Earth and these things

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would have just been buried lost.
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there's so little going on up there
as far as rain events. There's no

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huge wind that's that's redepositing this soil. So I mean, it's it's amazing

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that that they that they've existed.
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places on Earth. In fact,
they only get about twenty minutes of rainfall

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a year. And with the with
the darker stones absorbing the heat from the

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sun, they kind of created a
buffer layer of heat radiation just above the

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surface, which texts the surface from
wind. So there's like this this layer

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of heat that nothing can get down
to, so that that leaves things untouched

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on there. And also the surface
has a high amount of lime, which

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hardens when when there's either do or
they get, you know, just the

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smallest amount of rain or anything,
it'll harden and kind of glue the rocks

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in place. So because of this
stable climate and all this stuff that's going

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on with that, those lines have
been well preserved. Every time it rains,

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it just gets harder, just like
life, where yeah, we're going

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to get the girl alone, like
like we're I don't know why we're so

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into these like tough guy voices.
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no air. It's time. So
just to put things in a little bit

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of perspective for you, they have
an image of a condor that's been carved

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in there that's uh four hundred and
forty feet long, So imagine something that

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two hundred and twenty feet, now
double it, just to put that into

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some perspective. Thanks, you know
that you know that thing that's one hundred

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and ten feet lay four of them
end to end? My god, you

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know that thing that's four feet long? Yeah? How about one hundred and

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ten of them? Oh my god. Yeah, you had to do the

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math for a second one hundred times. Right. There's a monkey on there

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that's three hundred and ten feet by
one hundred and ninety feet. Whoa big

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monkey. And there's a human shape
one of them that's one hundred and four

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feet long. So this is what
is what we're talking about. These things

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are freaking huge. Yeah, they're
gigantic. A little bit about the history

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of them. There was a Peruvian
archaeologist named Torribio Sespe who first brought them

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to light in the early thirties.
He spotted them while he's walking around the

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surrounding footheels. The full extent of
them, though, wasn't apparent until the

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late thirties with the improvement of flight. Yeah, which makes a big difference.

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Yeah, I'm gonna kill this.
I'm gonna kill something right now.

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Early in the podcast, you hear
this phrase over and over. Oh,

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these things were made that could only
have been seen from from from aircraft from

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above. Right, That's not that's
just patently not true. Uh, these

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these things are were visible. There's
other hills in the area. There there

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are places from which these could be
seen and more importantly planned. And so

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I just want to just want to
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that these are not invisible unless you're
flying over them, right. I

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mean this, this Taribio guy was
was walking in the hills that was surrounding

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them, and that's and he saw
them. Yeah, you can. You

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can see them from the hills.
They may not be full on spectacular like

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you would get from the air,
but they are visible. There was a

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historian named Paul Kosok who was an
American. He gets credit for really studying

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them in the early forties. And
then shortly shortly after he started studying them,

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he met a German mathematician named Maria
Reich who he challenged to study the

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lines with him. Now, a
sweet piece of irony on her name is

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Maria Reich. She was in Peru
because she left Germany to avoid the Nazi

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Party. She didn't like what was
happening with the country. She got out

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of their way ahead of time.
It took a nannying job. She was

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she was a student at the University
of Hamburg. Really smart, very you

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know, she just very driven.
But she she did not like what was

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happening politically in her country, even
though her last name was Reich, which

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was kind of interesting. And that's
actually how she found herself in Peru.

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She took a nannying job with a
family that had lived there, and she

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kind of set up shop doing translation
work and things like that. So they

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they've got very fortunate to have this
this very well educated and very focused woman

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show up. Yeah, and then
when those two meet and she immediately becomes

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enthralled with these these lines. What
they mean is stuff. So by nineteen

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four five, she had moved to
the town of Nasca so she could be

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closer to the lines and actually devote
more time to it. And when I

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say devote more time to it,
I mean she devoted the rest of her

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life to their study. Yeah,
until her death in nineteen ninety eight.

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She lived there and studied those lines. Fun fact about her life, so

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part of studying the lines is that
she wanted to to preserve them, so

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she was going to kind of clean
them, you know, make sure that

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she So she bought brooms, and
she actually gotten a little bit of trouble

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for a while because the locals thought
she was a witch because she was going

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through so many brooms. She went
through so many rooms. They were like,

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oh it was me, yea,
what is witch in Spanish? I

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don't know? Crone podcast all right, time for you to go home.

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Yeah, and it's embarrassing. I
den Ecuador for a while and I my

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Spanish is non existent? Did you
know it at one time? No?

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You know what I wasted my time? I studied French in high school and

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college, which I don't want to
go to France at all, no interest.

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But their romance languages they were close
enough sure that I could get through

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the day, Like I would understand
what people were saying to me approximately,

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I could count out money, you
know, things like that. But no,

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no, no flu in Spanish speaker
was I. Besides, I was

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letting my hips do all my talking, and those hips don't lie. No,

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we've established that. I hope I
hope that we get enough fans that

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someone's going to go through and see
how many Shakira comments I make and like,

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you know, like really to see
how often that Shakira shows up in

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this podcast about ghosts and spring Hill
Jack's She's everywhere. What a delight,

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good God, what nice young woman. What a what a gift, What

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a gift that we've been given in
Shakira, Humanity, ladies and gentlemen.

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I'd like to welcome you to the
South Central Eastern Baptist Church and today's sermons

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entitled what a friend we have in
Shakira, What a gift the Lord has

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bestowed upon us in this gyrating siren, My soul have been saved by this

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she wolf that's in the closet.
Amen. But she wasn't a witch,

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she wasn't a very dedicated researcher who
did a lot of great work, really

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established the foundational research on the Nasca
lions. Yeah, because of her,

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the lines were declared a UNESCO World
Heritage Site in nineteen ninety five. And

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everybody knows you do not with UNESCO, you don't. Dog researchers have been

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able to replicate the lines accurately,
though, with simple tools and just some

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math and planning, they can they
can make one of these things in a

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couple of days. Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not hard to do.

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No, it's kind of weird that
that's something that can last a thousand

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years. You know, if you
if you're willing to take a two week

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vacation, stop at the home depot
on the way and boom, you just

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you just pick up a dal rod
and maybe some string and a good high

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bristle quality broom. In twenty twelve, there were some Japanese researchers that opened

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a new research center. Um,
it sounds like you're setting up a pun

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right now, kind of did nope? On And they actually set up a

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center to study the lines for the
next fifteen years. That's awesome. So

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there's plenty of interest in there,
keeping on, keeping on. And you

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know, I almost wonder, because
there's so many circumstances that contribute to them

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still being around that we can study
them now. I wonder if there weren't

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more. I mean they're there are. I mean, there's mound builders in

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North America. You know, there's
there's huge other geoglyphs, you know,

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going all the way up into to
North America. Yeah, they have him

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in Egypt, they have him in
Malta. Uh, Mississippi. Yeah,

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Yeah, And you wonder like,
wow, how many more were there?

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You know, these were things that
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rainfall or any any eroded for Mississippi, nast wall, the wallst thing you

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can do is build something you want
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spirit. Let me tell you.
Let me tell you something about My friend

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goes by the name of big Money, and I got himself a couple of

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opinions. I tell you, yeah, you ain't go ahead, You go

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ahead, you build yourself a man. You see what big money has to

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say, you get a pass from
him, that man. Bif, however,

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you don't get the thumbs up from
big money gonna do that, they'd

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got into straight oh shot go ribs. So that naturally leads us into nothing

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has naturally led anywhere at least as
to why these things were built. These

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things, we've described them, We've
tried to put them into context, tell

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you what they look like. Why
were they built though? What purpose do

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they serve? Scratching out pictures in
the desert. Well, because it's awesome.

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It's like the world's greatest graffiti.
Oh. If I had the ability

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to inscribe a giant and dong on
the moon that at the whole world had

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to stare at, you best believe
I would do it. There's no punishment

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that you could give me that would
keep me from doing that. Yeah,

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but what if you didn't even know
what the moon was? What if you

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you had like stone tools and I, well, then I couldn't get to

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the moon, all right. But
if I didn't have the moon and I

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had this this this alp, this
high altitude, low rainfall plateau that has

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like three inches of dark soil over
like bright yellow soil, that's a gigantic

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coloring book. I would not have
made monkeys or hummingbirds. Oh yeah,

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well, we'll see their priorities lay
in a different, different reil. You

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know what it's. It's different strokes
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world go round, And I,
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them for being primitive. They're not
as advanced to hear in the in the

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new millennium to realize that the ultimate
human expression is a giant dong. The

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real reason is unknown. Nobody really
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this desert. There's a slew of
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Okay, for why these things are
going back to Kosak and Rich,

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they said it was related to astronomy, that the geoglyphs were like an observatory

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pointing to spots on the horizon where
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and the solstices and things like that. It was hermaned once in the sixties

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and then again and I think nineteen
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for that. That would only work
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perspective, like if there was if
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because depending on where you stand and
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point to different areas, yea,
so it can have a point to anything,

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right, So so you would you
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point of perspective. So yeah,
I can see why why you could say,

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well, maybe maybe they knew that
maybe for each creature it's different,

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it's it's it's impossible to tell.
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a problem of you can look up in

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the in the night sky and make
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just find the stars that match what
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want. So that kind of it's
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swing, but maybe a swing a
miss. Yeah, agreed, I get

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I get that. They I mean
they still defend to this day followers of

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these guys and then their ideas,
they still defend this idea. But yeah,

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it's it's like not having a fixed
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that argument. It could, man, maybe maybe they found a fixed point

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since then I don't know, but
just plugging those glyphs into computer models and

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throwing them on the night sky,
they had random and mixed results from there,

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and it doesn't doesn't quite match up. What else could it be?

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Could have been walking paths or tracks
for foot races. This one's interesting on

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the surface. It kind of sounds
lame to me that it's just Oh,

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people just walked around them. Why
would they walk around them? What purpose

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did that serve and how do they
why did they think that that that's what

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it was. I mean, they
have different ideas for why they would have

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walked or run around them, or
any stuff like that. One of the

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most interest interesting things I've heard is
that some people have taken a cross section

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of the soil and found that under
the soil where it has been scraped away,

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the dirt is very impacted and very
squished together, and then the soil

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on either side of that is looser, much much looser. So it looks

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like they have been impacted over and
over and over in a way that kind

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of lends itself to saying, yeah, people walked on this over and over

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and over. They've compacted that soil
down underneath there. Ultimately, why would

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they do this? What would be
the cause or why would people walk on

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here? It could be could be
a religious significance, could be a rite

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of passage, something like that.
I've even seen where someone said it could

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be shamanistic in origin, that if
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shaman of the culture, you had
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the end you had to know what
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be able to tell, and that
was a way of in essence, leaving

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the body to be able to see
what you know, what that was or

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be able to tell. So if
you could tell it correctly, then you

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know, you progressed as a shaman
or Yeah. I read something very very

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similar to that. It was a
theory that there was almost kind of a

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very large equivalent of the rosary beads, that walking the pattern was as a

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meditative exercise, and that people would
would walk the pattern in order to show

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piety or respect, but also as
a as a meditative yeah, exactly,

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as a way to occupy yourself while
you focused within interesting so that, like

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I said, on the surface,
it seems seems kind of dumb. Oh

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people just walking around these shapes,
But then when it put it in context

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like that, that does make a
lot of sense. I think here's one

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that was weird to me. Some
people say it could have been used for

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laying out threads for weaving. Now, apparently there were a culture that was

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very big on on textiles. Yeah. They had all pacas, they got

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cotton, yeah, and they practice
mummification and they would wrap their dead in

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these long wrappings. So so some
people say that the textiles, the material

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was laid out along these patterns depending
on social class or significance, importance in

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society, and you know the I
guess the more important the glyph, then

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maybe the more important person got the
rappings at something like that? Does that

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make I mean, I don't know, I mean, like they would lay

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the yarn out, Yeah, isn't
it. It's it's weird to think about

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that way. Yeah, it sort
of makes sense. But then again it's

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kind of like why right, why
this way? Yeah? Like that that

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seems so overelaborate. Yeah, more
elaborate than it should be in a way.

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Yeah, And if I mean,
I guess for some of the more

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geometric patterns, maybe, but what
is the what is gained by making a

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hummingbird? Right? These are these
are really irregular patterns, and so that

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doesn't necessarily doesn't really even have a
whale on there. I mean they have

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Oh here's the thing that they have
a spider. That's that's pretty famous.

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Somebody some people have said that this
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The spider and and all of these
figures, they're very artistically stylized, stylized

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exactly now for somebody to say the
spider is not native to this area.

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They're saying, well, there's a
type there's a type of spider that's in

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the Amazonian rainforest that is exactly like
this, has a small waist kind of

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thing. It looks looks just like
what they've drawn out here. So they're

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saying, well, how did these
people know about the spider that is very

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hard to find in the Amazonian rainforest
even today? And how to travel down

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across the Andes down to Peru the
coast. I don't know, And I

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mean, what is like, to
my mind, what is more likely that

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they found some exceedingly rare brand of
spider and did this, or that they

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added a pair of legs to an
ant Yeah, because everything else about this

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thing is just screams AUNT all day. It's true. It's got what three

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sections of body? Yeah, there's
the head, thorax and abdomen weird and

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and so it's and everything else about
it just says AUNT. So I don't

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know. And there's that that weird
runoff of one leg, yeah, which

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they are saying is the reproductive organ
of the spider. It's a special,

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special thing that's only found on this
spider. Apparently it's it's back right leg

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has this reproductive organ and it's microscopic, So how did they know that it

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is? Okay, So the thread, the weaving thread, it's kind of

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weird, kind of weird, but
it's been put out there. The most

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debated theory that's been put forth is
by a Swiss author by the name of

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Eric van Danikin, who I think
we've mentioned before. Yeah, that sounds

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familiar. I was just gonna say
that that does sound familiar. He claims

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that these things are runways for an
ancient extraterrestrial airfield. Oh that's why we've

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heard of him before, ancient aliens. Yeah, he wrote he wrote Chariots

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of the Gods. Oh that's what
I was thinking of up, Chariots of

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the Gods. Guy, Yes,
runways. Interesting. Interesting guy. He's

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very much a proponent of the ancient
alien conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah, well,

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I mean I think the ancient alien
theory. Yeah, I was gonna

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say, I think they would call
it a theory. What do you think

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of them teaching theories as fact in
schools? With this theory, it comes

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up with a couple of snags here. First and foremost people make the argument

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that if there are extraterrestrial that have
mastered interstellar travel, how do they not

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have a vertical takeoff and landing ability
capability? You know what, I will

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actually give you an answer to that
question. Okay, they do, oh

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but no, I mean, I'll
say this from a fuel economy perspective.

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It's important to know that. You
know, it takes literally, so when

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you when you launch a rocket into
space, you have to get that rocket

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going in excess of twenty thousand miles
per hour in order to achieve orbit,

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which is huge. That's a lot
of speed. Functionally, and just because

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this matters, like orbit is a
function of speed. It means that you're

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going so fast that you are falling
towards the Earth because of gravity, but

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the Earth is curving away from you, so you're constantly falling. And that's

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how That's what orbit is. That's
how that works. Yea. And in

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order to land again, say take
for example, the Space Shuttle. It

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gets up to I think I want
to say, it's like twenty five twenty

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two or twenty five thousand miles per
hour. It gets out there. But

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if it wanted to, if we
if we as a bunch of people wanted

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to have it land just like a
rocket. We can do that, but

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you have to slow it down again. And this is your you know,

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lowerth orbit. To slow yourself down
requires exactly as much fuel as it took

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to speed yourself up. Oh wow, And so what the way we've solved

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this problem, because that means that
now you have to take twice as much

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fuel. We barely can get into
orbit with the fuel we have. It's

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it's not as energy efficient. In
order to land for free without having to

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spend fuel, we use the Earth's
atmosphere to break. We use the friction

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of the atmosphere to break, which
is why we need the heat shield and

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the tiles and everything. And so
we just literally take a trip about three

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quarters of the way around the planet
just converting our kinetic energy into heat and

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just burning off our speed and using
the atmosphere to slow us down. Which

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is why the Space Shuttle is a
glider. It just glides in and it

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lands. It has no breaks,
it has no extra fuel, it has

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no other options but to come in
land. And the same thing with you

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know, the Apollo capsules. Again, it used the atmosphere to slow itself

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down. I mean it could have
just dropped straight down wouldn't have worked out

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for the crew. Yeah, but
we use that that atmosphere to slow ourselves

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down, So I will give that
some some credibility because it is so much

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more fuel efficient to land using the
atmosphere as opposed to just dropping down.

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True again, though, that is
only if the extraterrestrials were using a fossil

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fuel type propulsion system. True,
right, um, And and I would

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I mean I cannot believe I'm not
really arguing on behalf of the agent aliens

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guys. Oh, I like it, but because most people don't. But

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consider again that any interstellar propulsion system
and an interstellar I mean, like any

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any propulsion system that operates in space
almost guaranteed wouldn't operate in atmosphere and vice

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versa. I mean, all of
our jets work on burning the abundant oxygen

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in the air. When our rockets
go into space, we have to bring

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oxygen with us to let them burn. So that's why you have things that

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they are developing now, solar sales
ion engines. Ion doesn't need to oxygen

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to do that, right right,
No, you're just you're just you're just

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fishing or fusion engines. Right,
Nope, they don't need it either,

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and so they're working on those things. But and I you know, again,

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since this is just nothing but supposition, you could say, oh,

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but they're so good at it that
they would work in the atmosphere. A

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solar sale certainly isn't going to work
in the atmosphere. The ion engines that

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we've worked on wouldn't work in the
atmosphere. They don't provide enough for us.

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They provide an inordinate amount of thrust
in a zero gravity environment. Yeah,

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no friction. Yeah, but when
you're yeah, when you're dealing with

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an in atmosphere, there's a lot
more things on deck. I'm just saying,

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if you can't game what an what
an alien civilization would have available,

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it really could be that they are
the greatest stellar voyagers in the universe.

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But the engines that they're using to
achieve that still are terrible at landing actually

404
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.119
on a planet, Which makes me
think, well, what if they have

405
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:27.599
something they can manipulate electromagnetic force that
you don't need to worry about any friction,

406
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.799
gravity, anything like that. Your
plan off the magnetosphere that we have

407
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:36.759
around the planet anyway, right,
electromagnetic energies everywhere, or they could found

408
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:40.599
a planet that's made entirely of peeps
and they have the most efficient burning engines

409
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:44.279
in the world, and that's what
they use. Oh, I thought you

410
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:45.759
were going to say that they didn't
have to worry about landing because they just

411
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.799
come through the atmosphere and let it
drop and then bounce safely. Yeah,

412
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.599
that too, you know, like
you that's the thing about the next planet,

413
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:58.720
bouncer Castle, you know that that's
those kind of arguments. They don't

414
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.880
really hold any water in either direction, because you're like, oh, well,

415
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.119
what would the aliens act hold vodka? Pretty well? Did you hear

416
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.480
that? No, you soak a
peep in vodka for a few days,

417
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:13.000
and then you've got a nice tasty
adult Easter treat, is it? I

418
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.480
don't want to eat a regular peep, and I don't want I'm not a

419
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.480
big peep fan, so I'm not
gonna be trying that. No, But

420
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.440
I'm glad that we discussed this because
I read a lot of Neil de grass

421
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.799
Tyson and he's taught me a ton
about space and rockets. Yeah, and

422
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.680
I'm really glad that I just got
to talk about that. The peep idea,

423
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:36.480
thanks, mel Evans. That comes
comes to you straight from our friend

424
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.240
Millet. She a peepe believer.
Well she she knows the recipe to soak

425
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.000
peeps and gummy bears in champagne.
Apparently, no way. Yeah, listen

426
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.480
to an hour with your ex.
I know that they talk about that,

427
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.839
but yeah, I was gonna say
I do all the time, and I've

428
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.759
not heard it. We're friends and
it's come up, so well, we're

429
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.519
just gonna have to have a podcast, dinner party, record the whole thing.

430
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.480
You know what, We're gonna have
to have what candy chat with special

431
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.920
guests, mel Evans. Now I
know what you're thinking. Candies for kids.

432
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.840
We've got some after hours treats that
will really make your adult socks roll

433
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:14.880
up and down. Not too late, I like to get up and watch

434
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.239
Good Morning America. Well, you're
gonna have a screaming headache and you're gonna

435
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.840
spend all night rolling around in your
own sick tabitha. Because if there's one

436
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.320
thing I know, once you smell
liquor, you can't stop. Is that

437
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.920
what happens Betty? Because I thought
that was you and you're talking to a

438
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:36.239
mirror. Snapburn, snap burn,
Oh, we do have fun. Oh

439
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.039
it's so great. Your hair looks
great. I just love that dress you're

440
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:47.360
wearing. I cannot wait to get
drunk from candy Candy Chat. We have

441
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:54.920
spawned a genuine monster. It is. It's a hydra with Betty and Tabitha.

442
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.199
I feel like Betty's got better burns
than Tabitha, for sure, but

443
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:01.960
I don't. They both just get
so angry. You know what else is

444
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:07.159
bad for the landing. There's the
soil is so soft, it would make

445
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.679
for a good landing pad, landing
strip. It's also this This is something

446
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.480
that people have argued. Uh.
They say, well, it's in the

447
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:16.840
middle of nowhere, why would they
want to go there? Blah blah.

448
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:23.000
You know what, Um, the
majority of Northern Africa vast desert. Yep,

449
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:29.960
they're figuring out that that used to
be one of the most lush places

450
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:35.760
on Earth, with a ton of
water and rainforest. Yeah, it's it's

451
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.480
a huge, huge thing that wasn't
always the way we see it, and

452
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:40.800
that's that's hard for us to see, you know. And it's the same

453
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:46.320
thing with the quote unquote runways.
There's a bias in your mind to see

454
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:51.360
things the way you're accustomed to and
so and so from the air. Yeah,

455
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.519
those look exactly like intersecting runways.
They do. Yeah, but that

456
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:59.400
doesn't mean they were. It doesn't
mean that you you gin up a concoction

457
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.960
of of Oh, and I'm going
to further enforce my own bias by saying,

458
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.480
oh, yeah, No, it's
it's a runway for a futuristic alien

459
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.960
race that lands their aircraft in the
way that I'm comfortable with. Right,

460
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.199
and I could board it myself and
right as long as I paid delta.

461
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.039
Yeah, exactly. And so it's
in the same thing when you talk about

462
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:25.280
these huge differences in time, you
know, climates change and and drastically sometimes.

463
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:29.039
Yeah, um, it would seem
that for the last you know,

464
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.800
two thousand plus years, the climate
has changed very little in northern Peru.

465
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.599
Right, But you know that's again, why would they go there. I

466
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.119
don't know they're aliens. Maybe that's
not something that's an argument. Yeah,

467
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:49.079
maybe they're actually robotic alpacas and they
love it. They're like, oh,

468
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.480
thank god, we found it.
Look, we found these weird pack is

469
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:59.000
shaped squishy things. Let's land there. I don't know that's why, you

470
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.920
just it's it's an asinine thing to
get into, right, right, All

471
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:07.159
that is the explanation to you are
though, the one that's that's popular these

472
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:15.000
days France is that they were religious
in nature. These things are the natives

473
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:22.840
were dependent on water from the Andes, and they drew these geoglyphs to encourage

474
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.440
their deities to produce water for them
or to make water available. At least

475
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.400
the paths could have led to spots
to worship the deities in the symbols themselves.

476
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.760
So could have been because a lot
of these either face the Andes are

477
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.920
very clear from from the Andes.
They think that since that's where they got

478
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.559
their water source to begin with,
the things that they drew encouraged the water

479
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.719
to come from them. I don't
think it worked out very well. But

480
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.519
you know what though, I mean, if you I would always go with

481
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.960
religion. You want to get a
lot of people to put a lot of

482
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.800
effort into a thing that no one's
gonna understand. Again, Yeah, the

483
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:08.480
shamanistic walking rituals that we just discussed, you know, that's that's a pretty

484
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:12.960
good, pretty good call. Now
here's here's some fun stuff that I read.

485
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.639
There are local legends that spoke of
an ancient culture that was older than

486
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:21.039
the Nasca people, which is to
us two thousand years right, and older

487
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:25.800
than the Incan cultures as well.
These legends included a white robed, bearded

488
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.960
white man who was kind of like
a scientist healer figure that went around and

489
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:39.519
taught people all kinds of technology and
healed upon touch and preached to people to

490
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:44.880
to be kind to each other and
to not fight, to not cause injury

491
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:51.039
at all, either mentally or physically. And they spoke of an old civilization

492
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:57.079
of white men with auburn hair,
and also a flood myth around the time.

493
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.599
Huh. And they're saying the lines
could have been older than than the

494
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:07.280
Nasca and part of this civilization and
maybe they either continued, you know,

495
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:13.079
the through tradition that they didn't know
why they were drawing these lines, they

496
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:16.280
just did it because that's what they'd
always done, or they were there and

497
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:21.239
they just left him alone or preserved
them. Could have been a drawn as

498
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.679
a memorial to the flood. Yeah, that's true. I mean, there

499
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:29.159
is no arguing we're gonna have to
do flood myth. Oh yeah, there's

500
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.599
no getting away with that. It's
it's like it's like gangering at this point.

501
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:36.760
Yeah, like that. There was
an American airline executive named Jim Woodman

502
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.079
who proposed a theory that the NASCA
used hot air balloons to make these lines.

503
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:46.599
He was actually able to replicate a
balloon from available materials and technology that

504
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:51.599
they believed the NASCA had at the
time, and he actually flew in this

505
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.760
balloon for a little while. But
yeah, he put together the material and

506
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:01.039
basically just dug a big pit,
fire pit and filled the balloon with with

507
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.719
that hot air and flew for a
while in it. He was successful.

508
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.360
It was that doesn't matter in the
context of why these were built, but

509
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:14.880
he showed that, you know,
that's a possibility of maybe why they could

510
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:16.519
have been seen from the air,
or how they could have been seen from

511
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.960
the air. Yeah, I mean
I'll take that. I mean, yeah,

512
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:22.559
I give full credit to that because
yeah, exactly, Yeah, you

513
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.199
can prove that it's possible, then
why not. Why not here's a fun

514
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.400
when they could be markers for subterranean
waterflow. The trapezoids, they say,

515
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:37.440
show how broad the streams of water
were under the ground. Zigzags show where

516
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.639
they ended, lines show the directions
the water was flown in. So it's

517
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.960
like underground rivers and things like that, which would have been very important to

518
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:51.000
them seeing as how they lived.
These civilizations, they lived next to the

519
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.159
rivers in the area. Everybody has
to right this, Yeah, and this

520
00:40:54.840 --> 00:41:00.480
desert is between two rivers. It's
it's basically the valley between the rivers,

521
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.039
and these civilizations lived along the river
banks and stuff. Well, if they

522
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.840
wanted more water, then why not
look underground? You know, they could

523
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.440
have looked for underground sources or whatever
they could have. The basic thing is

524
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.440
they're using the premise of dousing to
to find the water sources, and that

525
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:22.760
they drew these lines out of that. That's one of the more kind of

526
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.119
out there explanations of why they were
drawn. I mean, which, again,

527
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.199
to these people, water pretty big
deal, A big deal. Yep.

528
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.400
So that's those are some of the
explanations of why they're out there.

529
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.519
None of them are spot on,
one hundred percent full proof. None of

530
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:45.159
them are completely dumb, I don't
think. I mean, even like like

531
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:51.320
you just discussed with the extraterrestrials and
the landing strips, like discussing that in

532
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.079
the way that we did, even
puts them up there at least with the

533
00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:00.440
textile patterns. Yea in my mind, right, Yeah, I'll give you

534
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.719
that. Yeah. So, ultimately
nobody knows what these things are for.

535
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.840
The Nasca as a as a culture
kind of died out, and they think

536
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.639
it may have been due to deforestation
that they eventually the society. Yeah,

537
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.320
this is one of the few South
American cultures that we cannot lay at the

538
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.039
feet of the conquistadors. These guys
took themselves out of the equation. Yeah.

539
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.119
So, um, I don't know
what did you? Uh, what's

540
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.559
your gut going with? Oh?
Man, see, you know what I

541
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:35.559
am actually really I'm comfortable with a
mystery like well, just like go Beckley

542
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.920
Teppire, We're comfortable with that being
a mystery too. But but if I

543
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.559
got a pick, yeah, if
I gotta pick, who's your dark horse?

544
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.880
No, I'm going with the the
I will be standing in the long

545
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.679
line of religious significance. Uh.
Animal totems very popular in a lot of

546
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:55.039
other South American cultures. Sure,
um, huge amounts of iconography used.

547
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.760
I go with that. I just
go with religious significance with just be religious

548
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:06.320
as in, um, wanting help
from the gods for the water or shamanistic,

549
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.000
I'd go shamanistic. I think I
think shamanistic because if you needed to

550
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.920
track the water that's underground, you
dig holes. And these people needed water.

551
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.599
If there is water there, they
dig holes. And keep in mind,

552
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.400
these things are ridiculously well preserved,
so well preserved that they've actually found

553
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.360
the steaks in some parts that were
nailed into the ground to help them in

554
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.760
the creation of them. So if
and and and these things again are they're

555
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.199
not even six inches deep, So
if at any point anyone had dug a

556
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.920
hole to find water, it would
be some evidence. Yeah, and there's

557
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:49.119
there's been no there's no shortage of
people investigating this area. So I don't

558
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.679
I don't think the water thing holds
because if you think there's water under your

559
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.920
feet and you get twenty minutes of
rain a year, you're gonna make a

560
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:01.400
shovel. Yeah, that that's a
fun idea using you know, the dowsing

561
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:05.920
idea and stuff. Yeah, but
even and I was and if they were

562
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.800
dousing, you'd see a ton of
holes. They have found some pottery that's

563
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:15.239
been broken along the sides of these
things, and they're saying, well,

564
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:21.719
that's that maybe lending itself to the
idea that people were traversing them on foot

565
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.639
and maybe just dropped a pot here
or there. What evidence proves that they

566
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:30.199
were clumsy? I mean, I
think I would have to go with with

567
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.559
the same front runner for what they
could be. You know, people,

568
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:38.559
I like the idea of priests of
the culture or the shaman of the culture

569
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:43.400
having to walk these as a as
a ritual or a rite of passage for

570
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:49.000
themselves and then figuring out what image
they just walked, right, I think

571
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.199
that's fun. That's fun. Yeah, So I don't know. I mean,

572
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:57.320
ultimately it's like a corn maze,
but they didn't have corn maze.

573
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:04.679
They called it maze Amaze. Billy
Mays here for amaze. May's amazing.

574
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.000
Hey, folks, you find it
hard to find water in the desert.

575
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:13.079
Do you want to be accepted as
one of the operational lines in your shamanistic

576
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:17.119
community? You need maze Maze by
Billy Mays? All right, um,

577
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.199
sorry, boy, oh boy.
Yeah, that's I mean, that's Nasca

578
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:27.760
lines in a huge geoglyphic nutshell,
high altitude nutshell bill preserved. M hmmm.

579
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.400
That's a that's a classic mystery.
I love to discuss that because I

580
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:36.239
think. I don't think anyone ever
takes the time to just discuss the Nasca

581
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.199
lines. It's always just like this
this look at that, right, yeah,

582
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:44.719
yeah, like people always just tack
that onto their ancient aliens argument or

583
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.880
or mysteries of the world. Oh
this is weird, and this is weird,

584
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.880
and that's weird. Yeahaska lines are
weird. Moving on, Like,

585
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.719
I'm glad that we discussed that because
it's a really good one and it's fun.

586
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.559
Yeah. If you guys got any
thoughts on what you know, if

587
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:01.800
things jumping out to you, like, oh, is they're discussing this,

588
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.039
this sounds like it may be something
like this, not like the jackass theories

589
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.119
that that they're throwing out there.
Yeah, yeah, I send it to

590
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.840
us. And speaking of jackass theories, I'm not gonna lie to you.

591
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.159
There's a few stones we left unturned
here. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

592
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:23.159
and well, well many things things
are are very incestuous, right,

593
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:28.000
I mean, in this podcast realm
that we're living in, all the ice

594
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.800
creams mix them together, Yeah,
exactly. There's thirty two flavors and you

595
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.679
can't pick any one of them out
from you. It's it's just like the

596
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.320
biggest thirty two flavored Neapolitan ever.
And you don't you can't even just dig

597
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.480
out the part you like, but
you can't dig out some puns. Oh

598
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:49.480
lord, oh lord, sure due, all right, I'm ready, yeah

599
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.480
yeah, kick it off. Yeah
all right, I'm yeah. I am

600
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.400
a tough guy. Well you've got
you've gotten to go first, last couple

601
00:46:54.400 --> 00:47:00.760
of times. Uh. It turns
out that archaeologists in tennis See have uncovered

602
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:07.800
a very large number three that was
previously covered by trees, and it's it's

603
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:14.480
it's it's ancient um. And below
it was the inscription of the Intimidator,

604
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:21.719
and they realized that it was an
ancient uh, an ancient, an ancient

605
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:27.440
site. Uh. And clearly someone
could see the future um recognizing the accomplishments

606
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:31.800
of Dale Earnhart. It's called the
NASCAR lines. I'm impressed that you came

607
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:39.599
out with intimidator. Yeah, oh
man, that's good. That lends itself

608
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:44.039
to the theory that it was just
a race track. Yeah, that's right.

609
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:49.760
Of the gods of which Dale Earnhart
is one, and he came amongst

610
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:54.639
man and he taught us how to
fucking rock. Never forget number three it's

611
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.679
right, And then he left,
and what are we stuck with? Junior

612
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:05.079
Bob in Labonte no junior number eight? Oh yeah, in the Budweiser car.

613
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.760
Yeah no, just ask ask Hank
Williams Junior how much the world likes

614
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:15.239
a junior? Do you? Hank
Williams Junior, Thank you, You'll never

615
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.920
be your dad, And double fuck
you to Hank Williams junior junior, who

616
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.159
is a real person peddling that bullshit? Wow? Really? Yeah? Not

617
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.559
even the third or a second.
He probably goes by that, but he's

618
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.119
still junior junior junior. Oh wow, Yeah, that came from the heart

619
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:37.559
I heard, I felt. And
he's not very busy. He might come

620
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.920
here and try to fight me over
that. Also, I've I've osmost my

621
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:47.519
NASCAR knowledge from my parents. Nice, yeah, nice? All right,

622
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.599
what do you got for me?
All right? I've got an ancient video

623
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.880
game console. Oh I love this
called the Neo Geoglyph. Oh wow,

624
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.400
nothing's really expensive, isn't it?
Like those Neo gio was like six hundred

625
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.960
bucks? Oh geez, I knew. I knew one friend that had it

626
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.280
and he played like there was a
lizard game. They tried to have a

627
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.320
lizard as their their mascot, like
their their Mario, their sonic, you

628
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.159
know, some lizard. I forget
what it was, dude, I didn't.

629
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:15.599
I never knew anyone who had a
Neo Geo. Your friend was like

630
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.440
loaded rich because that thing was like
ridiculous. It was. But this isn't

631
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.400
the podcast where we talking about old
video games. But well it could be.

632
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.079
I mean I had a friend also
who had a sick of Saturn.

633
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:29.639
Oh. I had a roommate I
had the Saturn and he even had like

634
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:35.079
a weird import Ram cartridge for the
controller. No no, no, uh,

635
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.239
I just I thought they had replaceable
God, you're right. I think

636
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:43.639
it's a dreamcast. I could be, but I don't think he had a

637
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.800
dreamcast. Is how is willing we
are to get off the off the tracks

638
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:51.679
here? Robert Brathian Game of Thrones. I like that though. I like

639
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.079
the Neo Gio Glynnogio glyph. All
right, all right, um, if

640
00:49:54.159 --> 00:50:00.320
you're if you're in Peru and you're
stopping by, you know, maybe wake

641
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.000
up and you step outside of your
your your home on the high plateau and

642
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:10.320
you just fill your lungs with the
ancient air of Peru and to wake up

643
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:16.559
in the morning. How about a
nice steaming hot cup of nas cafe delicious.

644
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:22.079
Yeah, hot dry, that's right. You know what it does work

645
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.440
on top, you don't have to
mix it with much water, all eat

646
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:32.679
underneath. Nice. Well, you
know, March Madness just ended great.

647
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.280
It ended for me like a week
ago. Well, great tournament. Yeah,

648
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:44.239
fun fun stuff going on. I've
got a special basketball play that's drawn

649
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.199
up, okay, especially for this
subject. Okay, It's called the Razzle

650
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:52.920
Daska Lines. Oh I love it. Does one guy just like flop down

651
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.880
on the floor and pretend to be
a hummingbird. They they just keep walking

652
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:01.679
around in patterns. Oh yeah,
intersecting trapezoids, and I like that's they

653
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:07.079
they do a full court trapezoid.
Oh perfect, I like that. I

654
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.760
got. Uh it's not even a
bonus one because it's not even a pun.

655
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.880
Okay, But since I was talking
about NASCAR, there should be a

656
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:25.039
degrading sexual position called a rusty wallace. I actually just know those off the

657
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.960
top of my head. Oh I
do too, somehow, I don't I

658
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.840
knowing it that I've ever known has
cared about Nascar. Yeah, I knew

659
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:36.119
those things. Yeah, Sometimes I
just sit and I get all Greg biffeled

660
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:40.760
well you okay, check you checkmated
me? You got me all? I

661
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.679
checked you. I didn't checkmate you. You said you knew more, you

662
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:46.840
got more. I'm sure. No, that's it because I always I always

663
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:51.239
remember Bobby Labonte because for some reason, I always hear it like Hank Hill's

664
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:58.039
voice, Bobby Labonte. And I
don't know why. I know Rusty Wallace

665
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.199
and I did not know that the
Dale Earnhart there was a Dale Earnhardt Junior.

666
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:06.679
Oh you didn't know, although I
kind of did because I originally wrote

667
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.239
number eight and then I looked it
up to make sure I had the right

668
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:13.639
number. There's number three. Yeah, sorry, yeah, well yeah,

669
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.639
that's puns for you. And then
it's just tricky, no get you look

670
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:22.519
out, plums will bite you.
It's like your pit crew needs work.

671
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:27.119
I reckon, you need to shave
a few seconds of your stop times.

672
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.480
You ain't seen enough checkered flags in
your nay son. Dude, do you

673
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:35.679
know how much money we would make
with a NASCAR themed Western? How would

674
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.559
that work? I don't care.
People would watch this out of It all

675
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:44.920
right, starring Sarah Palin as a
single mom out to make a living trying

676
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:49.039
to make her name on the track
circuit, and Ted Nugent as the coach

677
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.239
with the brass Ball's right, damn
it, Dixie, get your ass in

678
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.800
my office. I'm tired of you
tear assing all over this track. It

679
00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:00.679
ain't your personal playground. Mr.
Yeah. And her name would be Dixie.

680
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:14.000
It's such a great, bad idea. Yeah. Oh, and Russia

681
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:19.840
Limbaugh as the league commissioner. Now
you see you see see what I said

682
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.599
here. I've been saying this all
season. You keep driving that way,

683
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.280
people are gonna get hurt, and
no one's gonna stand for it. I

684
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.559
know I'm not. That's really good. That's a really good rest the ball.

685
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:35.880
Have you seen this? Have you
seen this lately? You've seen this?

686
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.039
I'm I'm reading I'm reading directly right
now from the New York Times.

687
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:49.079
Dixie Haystack is a menace to the
motorsports industry. And I cannot have that

688
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:57.599
on my watch. New York Times
said that I didn't say. Yeah.

689
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:12.719
Her her race car is called the
barn Burner. Dick Cheney has her disapproving

690
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:17.320
father special appearance by Meat loves the
Pitch. He's the pit crew chief.

691
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:21.719
Yeah. Who dies like in the
Third Race to give everyone else a reason

692
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:27.000
to live. So well, now
you don't have to see the movie.

693
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.679
We just gave it to Yeah.
If any of you guys have the budget

694
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:36.159
to make that, I guess I
guess it's yours. Although I am copyrighting

695
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:39.719
the ship out of Dixie Haystack.
That's that's the best name ever. I

696
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.199
would love it if Dixie Haystacks did
a duet with Dickie two. Oh god,

697
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.519
you know that country you rap?
No, yeah, yeah, exactly.

698
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.559
Well, I mean we've already got
what if you know. I'm just

699
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:58.960
trying to work to Rusty Wallace into
it and I can't think of how something

700
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:07.320
something like you're all Greg Miffield,
we refused to let this podcast there.

701
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:12.519
Oh, I guess so well,
thanks for thanks for getting through that.

702
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.960
Uh yeah, Gauntlet, oh man, that was good though. That was

703
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.960
good. There was some fun facts
and some facts that were fun, and

704
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:23.800
a whole lot of us dicking around. If if you got a subject you

705
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.880
want us to to blather skyde about, then uh go on and send it

706
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:30.760
to us on blurry photos dot org. Yeah, tell us what to do.

707
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.960
You can even you can even Facebook
messages. You can YouTube messages.

708
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.280
Oh man, what else are we
on? It doesn't matter. Oh you

709
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.880
can toward us. Oh that's right, Yeah you can. You can send

710
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.920
us, send us one of those
towarts, which you can find us at

711
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:52.519
Blurry Underscore Photos on the twarters.
We're also on iTunes. Yeah, find

712
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.119
us there, rat us. Yeah, we're we're on YouTube, Blurry Photos

713
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:59.880
podcast. That's where you can find
us at. On there also ribe.

714
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.119
I'm gonna turn it. I'm gonna
crowdsource this because I'm just I'm just not

715
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:07.760
done with it. What would you
entitle our NASCAR themed movie? What the

716
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.480
wait? It's an old Western Nascar
It's a it's a it's an old Western

717
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:16.639
Nascar movie. Sarah Plant Palin is
Dixie Haystack, a single mom trying to

718
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:21.599
trying to get her life back together
and make her dream come true. I'd

719
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:28.119
call it something like horsepower or oh
or like frottled Oh dude, horsepower,

720
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:30.639
horse power? You like that's brilliant? All right? You okay? No

721
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:35.400
one send anything in. Sorry guys. Yeah, it was open and then

722
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:39.480
Dave closed it. Yeah, but
if if you like us, send us

723
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:43.280
out there in the world by telling
your friends just say, hey, uh,

724
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.519
those are these bumps. There's only
these couple of clowns. Push it

725
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:52.119
on their Facebook, email them,
tie them up and open up their computers

726
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:57.599
and make all them windows do stuff. Do it, you know, whatever,

727
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.360
whatever it takes, but we appreciate
it, and thanks for listening.

728
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:04.800
Um, I don't think I have
anything else for this one. This is

729
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.000
no. I think I think we've
prattled on all right. Now you gotta

730
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.920
find something else to entertain yourself with. Sorry, guys, No, no

731
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.599
even just means you go back and
listen to that episode you skip because you're

732
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:17.840
like, I'm not so sure I'm
interested in. Go Beckley TEPPI what's gubb

733
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:23.639
boggle teep? Go checking yourself a
favor? Yeah, huge one. Gosh.

734
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:27.400
All right, well now you see, people, I've been telling you

735
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.320
for months, but I'm David Stecco. For months I've been I've been I've

736
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.920
been telling you this and it's still
true today. I'm David the Intimidator Flora

737
00:57:36.280 --> 00:58:25.559
oh three tearing up. Yeah,
when your fellow man says to you,

738
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:34.360
show me God, show me mercy, show me benevolence, show me kindness,

739
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:38.199
I point only to this picture I
have on my wall of Shakira from

740
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:47.000
her nineteen ninety nine World Erotic Tour
I had autographed because I was able to

741
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:57.599
get backstage passes by knowing trivia on
a radio contest, Look to Shakira and

742
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:02.719
the Lord says it was good.
Also, I've written some fan fiction about

743
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:09.679
number a woman named Shakira who joins
the clergy. If you're interested, it's

744
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:15.960
enlightening. Stop that last one and
I didn't work. I'll be the jedge

745
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:20.639
of that. Yeah, damn,
yeah, that's true.

