WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:05.799 Made him trying to get free growing in the corner, Brown fakes, fires 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:15.320 up the three, Brown knocks down the three to tie the game. Well, 3 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:19.960 I love the way our guys fought in this game. This this loss 4 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:23.719 is totally on me. With ten seconds in regulation, we should have just 5 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.519 taken the time out, advanced the ball and found a way to get it 6 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:32.799 in and made a free thrower two and ended the game. But it didn't 7 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:38.960 happen, and we made some other mistakes. But our guys just need to 8 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:42.600 concentrate on fighting the way they fought in this game from start to finish. 9 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:59.920 And we'll be back Thursday to call out Esvn that forced overtime, that Jalen 10 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:04.079 Roun improbable three man that was a really difficult shot to make hand in a 11 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:08.799 face in a corner, forces overtime and in Boston wins one thirty three one 12 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:18.040 eight ot highest scoring conference finals game since nineteen eighty seven. Who played in 13 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:29.840 that Conference finals anyone? Bueller, Celtics and Pistons Jason Tatum at thirty six, 14 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:34.359 Jaln Brown twenty six. After that call from Mike Breen and company, 15 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:42.640 it was then Rick Carlisle, head coach Indiana Pacers, who's done an unbelievable 16 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:49.359 job with the six seeds so far. He's blaming himself because his team had 17 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:57.560 a three point lead with the ball with thirty seconds left, couldn't get it 18 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.840 done, so they lose it over time, Boston up one game to none. 19 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:12.120 The other things they did wrong well, twenty two turnovers, second most 20 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:16.479 by Indiana this year. It's not as much it wasn't as much about Boston's 21 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:23.639 threatening defense and over pressuring defense as it was just carelessness on the part of 22 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:28.759 the Pacers. They were I'm telling you, man, they were better than 23 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.159 I thought. That's this Indiana team. You got to give them a lot 24 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:35.479 of credit. This is These are the games, even in a loss. 25 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:40.560 These are the games that kind of turn I think, turn people and make 26 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:45.199 them go. If I don't have a dog in the fight, it makes 27 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:49.879 you go, you know. I I'm kind of rooting for them. I 28 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:57.520 like the I like the way this team gets after it. NBA All Defensive 29 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:07.199 Team announced Rudy Gobert. No surprise there, Anthony Davis, No surprise there. 30 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:12.560 Although Anthony Davis said earlier this year, if you recall, Anthony Davis 31 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:19.000 said the NBA doesn't like me. Do you remember that because he wasn't a 32 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:23.439 finalist for Defensive Player of the Year, so he said, the NBA doesn't 33 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:30.879 like me. Go bear. It's his seventh All Defensive selection. Each one 34 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:40.199 of those he was a first team selection. Davis five times All Defense, 35 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:46.280 three times he's done it on the first team selection. Bam out of Bayo. 36 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:54.919 He makes the All Defensive Team for the fifth time as a member of 37 00:03:54.919 --> 00:04:04.000 the Miami Heat. Victor Webbenya sixth rookie in NBA history to make the All 38 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:11.680 Defensive Team. The other five earned second team honors, though, like Tim 39 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:16.680 Duncan and David Robinson and Minute Bowl and Keem Elijahana Kareem Abdul Jabarbik with the 40 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:21.439 Milwaukee buck Back in nineteen seventy, they were all second team. Webbin Yama 41 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:30.160 becomes the first ever rookie First Teamer. Impressive man. Now you want to 42 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.319 know why Pistons fans get so damn upset for not getting a guy like that. 43 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:39.720 The other mentioned is Herb Jones. He's the other first team selection, 44 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:46.439 first time that that's happened for him in his career. That's your NBA look 45 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:59.680 right there, all right? NHL tonight Rangers and Panthers Eastern Conference Finals. 46 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:02.759 Second ever playoff meeting between the two teams. First one was back in nineteen 47 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:06.240 ninety seven. That's when Gretzky scored a natural hat trick and they won in 48 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:11.759 the quarters. New York in the Conference finals for the second time in three 49 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:17.000 years, they are trying to become the first President's Trophy winner to reach the 50 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:28.560 finals since the Blackhawks in twenty thirteen. Meanwhile, the Panthers are trying to 51 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:35.560 become the second team in recent memory to reach the finals after losing the finals 52 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.920 of the year before. Do you know the last team to do that? 53 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.959 The Pittsburgh Penguins in two thousand and nine. Red Wings beat Pittsburgh in two 54 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.360 thousand and eight. I was there. Pittsburgh turned around beat him in two 55 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:56.959 thousand and nine. I was there, And in case you missed it, 56 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:00.240 we talked about the first half hour of the show. Royals blow out the 57 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:06.560 Tigers ten to three. I saw in social media last night. I don't 58 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.120 know why I do this to myself. Maybe you do it too. Social 59 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:14.040 Media can be great for news, information, statistics. It can also be 60 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:21.639 one big sesspool. But somebody had said on social media trade Trek Schooble if 61 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:25.560 you're not going to pay him. So maybe I thought was, what do 62 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:30.560 you mean trade him now? I'll be the I'll be full discoolsure here. 63 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:35.399 I wanted him to trade him a couple of years ago, get as much 64 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:40.959 as you could before he got hurt. Remember he's been hurt a couple of 65 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:46.319 times. He's had elble slash soulder surgery twice. He's a Scott Boris agent, 66 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:53.079 or Scott Boris is his agent. I don't know how much he's going 67 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:59.000 to warrant on the market when he does become available, Okay, because Boris 68 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:03.800 has got clients like Harper and Seeger and Soto and Cole and Schurzer and j 69 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:13.439 D Martinez and Xander Bogart's, Carlos Rodon, James Paxton and Jim reu Sean 70 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:21.680 Maniah Arius, those guys all right. For the top ten paid pitchers are 71 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:29.439 Boris agents or Boris clients. I mean, would do you think it's going 72 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:34.160 to cost Detroit more than what it costs to pay Blake Snell or Carlos Rodin 73 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:39.399 Rodn at twenty eight million. It's not like he's asking for Verlander Schuzer to 74 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.399 gromd Mone. He's not going to get that, right, He's not getting 75 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:47.720 forty million. Garrett Cole makes thirty six. That's not happening. But I 76 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:51.480 found that interesting on social media that people were saying, already ready to give 77 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:58.040 in on something like that. Meyer hotline eight six six eight three eight forty 78 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.839 eight forty three, even tech Sports ready to twenty one thousand. Let's hit 79 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:03.199 those phone lines. Ben, who's waiting for us? Yeah, we got 80 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:07.720 Bob from Waters. Hi, Bob, how are you today? Oh? 81 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.199 Real good? Thanks, I wanted to talk a little baseball real quick. 82 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:18.199 Scott Borrows was Steve Borris's brother. He played sixty years ago. Scott Borrows 83 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:22.839 must be ninety. I don't know how old Scott Borrows is, to be 84 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.480 honest with you. Well, you know, Steve Borros was a Tiger, 85 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.079 but man, he was in the late sixties. Well anyway, yeah, 86 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:35.519 Steve Boros was. He was the third basement, right, yeah, yeah, 87 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:37.279 so he played back. Yeah, he played back in the sixties. 88 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:43.919 Yep, mid sixties. I believe he's seventy. He'd be seventy four now 89 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:48.919 he's seventy four. Steve Borros's oh oh, he's from right, went to 90 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.759 University of Michigan and played at Northern High School in Flint. Oh, I 91 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:56.960 didn't know that. Hey, you know, I liked your interview with Tim 92 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:03.919 Lester. You know he was he was with the original XFL Chicago Fire way 93 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.399 back when they played Saturday nights and hot summer nights. And his backup was 94 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.559 quarterback Tony Rice of nor To Dame. And oh yeah, these are the 95 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:13.759 kind of people. They just wanted to be in the game somewhere, you 96 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.759 know, football's football. They you know, they're getting their reps and their 97 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:20.159 experience. I like yourview, Yeah, thank you, Yeah, you get 98 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:26.679 to to what you know. Right he was a he was a six round 99 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.039 draft pick in the XFLU as well. Uh played in the Arena Football League. 100 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.519 I think I think it was in Carolina and Memphis. But yeah, 101 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.960 I look. I enjoyed the interview because he's got a he's got an uphill 102 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.080 challenge with that terrible Iowa offense, that's for sure. Oh yeah, but 103 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.480 what about Iowa. You notice they they put all pro to Hall of Fame 104 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.240 tight ends every year. I think of all the great tight ends that are 105 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.559 in the NFL right now. Yeah, and offensive lineman, great great offensive 106 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.399 Lineman for years, Bob, Thanks for the phone call. Sorry, we 107 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.000 got to hit the break ten after the hour back with more of your phone 108 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:07.960 calls on the Meyer hotline and you could text us Sports rated to twenty one 109 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.120 thousand. This is X's of Bros. I'll the me you Can Sports Network. 110 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.840 We're teeing off our tenth year at the Meyer LPGA Classic for simply give. 111 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.679 Get ready for the best who are yet to help neighbors in need while 112 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:26.720 enjoying golf, food and family fun. 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Yesterday, Kansas 128 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:03.559 City out thirty one in nineteen Tigers a season worst two games under the break 129 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:09.240 even. Terrek Scuoble gets the call. Trek scouble is Derek Scoobl's the guy, 130 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.720 right, He's the guy to stop things. Tigers have lost three straight, 131 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.600 They've lost three straight series. They've lost twelve of the last seventeen. 132 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.240 They've lost nine of their last twelve on the road. Who do you turn 133 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:28.919 to? You turn to the guy who is your ace? What does an 134 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:37.960 ace mean? Ace isn't just your best pitcher. An ace is the guy 135 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.639 who's going to take the bump on a regular basis. Got to be available 136 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:50.080 to be an ace, right and he throws against Cole Reagan's today. Got 137 00:12:50.120 --> 00:13:00.279 to be available. Got to give your team innings, and you've got to 138 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:05.799 get wins. Stop the bleeding, not that they had any in Philadelphia. 139 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.600 The Phillies have been playing incredible baseball. Lead the league in wins with thirty 140 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:22.120 five. They've now won nine of their last eleven or twenty seven and six 141 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.000 in their last thirty three. First time since nineteen oh one they've won twenty 142 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:31.759 seven games in a thirty three game span. That's a long time. Harper 143 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.399 goes yard for his eleventh yesterday and got a good story on Harper coming up 144 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:43.399 here. But Ranger Swarez is nine to zero, one of the best whips, 145 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:50.039 walks, hits, beratings pitched in baseball. One more win and he 146 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:56.720 matches a career high. Already, He's not their ace. They could have 147 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:01.759 one of two, Aaron Nola or Zach Wheeler, and now you've got Ranger 148 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:09.000 Suarez. But they get the offense. There are offense clicks at the same 149 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:15.159 time, and this will go full circle for what we've said for a long 150 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:26.519 time, everyday players Schwarber, Realmuto, Harper, Bohm, Stott, Castianos, 151 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:33.080 six guys in there every day. And lately it's also been Cody Clements, 152 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:39.559 former Tiger given up to Philadelphia with Juan Soto or with Greg Rissoto Foro, 153 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:45.840 Matt Wierling, who's been a decent player for Detroit, Nick Maton no 154 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:52.759 longer here, and Donnie Santz, who just signed a minor league deal with 155 00:14:52.840 --> 00:15:05.480 the San Francisco Giants. How's that trade looking now? Nick Mayton is in 156 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:16.320 the Oriole system, so he basically traded Greg ray Soto, who if you 157 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.919 didn't want him as a closer, he'd still be a good left handed reliever. 158 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:28.559 And Cody Clemens, who you drafted, who's an absolute baller. I'm 159 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.759 not saying he's an All Star. I'm not saying he's an everyday player. 160 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:39.559 He's a major league player. He gets after it, he busts his ass 161 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:48.159 every day. He's a grinder. Got rid of those guys for two guys 162 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.639 who are no longer in your system, and Matt Verlin. So it's Matt 163 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:56.120 Verlin for those two guys. And I like Matt Verling. I think he's 164 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:03.000 an important piece, but wouldn't trade those two guys for him, would not 165 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:10.039 have that has not worked out just yet. And you can't deny what the 166 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:15.679 Phillies did a year ago with the trade while the Tigers were muddling, and 167 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.080 you know, playing nick maton because everybody liked the little wolf in his damn 168 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:26.120 locker and everybody everyone got caught up and calling him Wolfie. We love these 169 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:37.320 little nicknames and start howling on the air and stuff's ridiculous. Anyway, talking 170 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.879 about the Tigers a little bit, and we were talking about just before the 171 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.519 break, how people on social media yesterday were talking about trading Terrek School, 172 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:52.440 which floored me. You want to give up your best guy right now, 173 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.240 and they want to do it because they don't think long term they're going to 174 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:03.679 pay them. That could be okay, you think the value is at its 175 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.319 highest, okay, because you don't want to You don't want to do a 176 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:11.920 Michael Former situation right where you held on too long and then nothing came about. 177 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.759 By the time you did trade him, you got nothing in return. 178 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.759 They tried to convince us that we did get something in return, but you 179 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:25.559 didn't. That's my favorite look at what we have coming our way. Oh 180 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:34.079 great, and then they hope you forget and most of us do most of 181 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:42.079 us recognize, Oh okay, I see now, I remember you remember the 182 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:48.079 guy you had. What you don't remember is the guy you got four the 183 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:57.759 guy you had because unless that guy makes it. Do you remember Sawyer Gibson 184 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:07.880 along right? Yeah, and he's been all right fullmore was at the end 185 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:17.400 of the deal and at the end of his career. Really, people talking 186 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:22.720 about that on social media yesterday before School makes his start today against Cole Reagan's 187 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:32.519 because they don't think the Tigers can afford him. Guy with two elbow surgeries 188 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.480 or two arm surgeries? Arm elbow? How much do you think he's going 189 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:44.160 to make? What do you think the number on that contract will be? 190 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:51.119 We don't know just yet because it hasn't hit yet. He continues at this 191 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.960 rate, but the team continues at this rate. Sure, I understand why 192 00:18:53.960 --> 00:19:00.279 you'd think about it. A team out there would tell me me. A 193 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.519 team that wouldn't want I got like Trek School in their rotation, Absolutely you 194 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:10.400 would. So I understand to a certain extent the mindset. Not right now, 195 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:12.720 I don't. As a general manager, you probably have to be thinking 196 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:18.920 along those lines. If it continues at this rate, how much would you 197 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.279 be willing to give? Those are the things that you're the conversations have to 198 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:27.480 have. You have to have those types of conversations of how much eventually do 199 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:36.279 you think he's going to get? I mentioned Bryce Harper. Did you see 200 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:41.000 the story about what Harper did helping a New Jersey high school student? Did 201 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:48.359 you see this? Ben? I did? Not? Kids and neighbor walked 202 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.319 up to Harper's house, knocked on the door. Couldn't believe that. Harper 203 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:56.960 answered the door, asked him if he would help him get a prom date. 204 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:00.599 Harper said, to tell you what, give me a email. Will 205 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:02.839 have to think about it. He goes, nah, Actually, let's do 206 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:07.839 this right now. They go over to the young girl's house. Harper knocks 207 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.240 on the door, she answers, comes out. She asks him, would 208 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:21.640 you go to prom with him? Girl says yes, hugs Harper first. 209 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:26.240 Then the kid, Jake Portello, a senior at Haydenfield Memorial High School, 210 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:33.039 father comes out, shakes Harper's hand, and there's your prom date. 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You can text the program sports Radio to twenty one thousand. 236 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:59.799 We've been hitting on the Tigers problems in case you just joined us. 237 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:04.039 Lose to Kansas City last night. The Royals won five straight ten of thirteen. 238 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.440 They're thirty one wins through fifty games, sixteen more than a year ago. 239 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.279 This is a team that has improved quickly from a year ago, who 240 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:17.240 they finished in last place in the division. Last year they were horrid. 241 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.519 They were not fun to watch. What has turned the corner a lot of 242 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:26.559 different things. Bobby Wood Junior primarily really good player. Two homers last night, 243 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:32.359 six RBIs had a stolen base. Third player to ever do that in 244 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:40.599 a Royals uniform with Bo Jackson and Carlos Beltram. Fourth career multi homer game, 245 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:47.079 fourteenth career homer and stolen base game, which is tied with Ronald Acuna 246 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.279 since twenty twenty two, and that's when Witt made his major league debut. 247 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:55.440 His home run off Casey Meis in the second travel four hundred and sixty eight 248 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:59.839 feet. It's the third longest of the year. Only Aaron Judge and My 249 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:07.759 Trout, known as home run hitters, have hit them further Schoogle throws for 250 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:15.039 the Tigers here today against Cole Reagan's two o'clock or so. As the Tigers 251 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.000 try and snap a three game slide and try to drop out of a funk 252 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:23.279 that has seen them lose twelve of seventeen and nine of twelve on the road, 253 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:30.960 Casey Maiz takes the loss. Detroit has lost each of his last four 254 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:37.000 starts after winning each of his first five starts. It was his shortest stint 255 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:44.000 of his career and forty eight career starts one and one two thirds innings or 256 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:49.319 one in excuse me, one in two thirds innings. So Detroit is now 257 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:55.920 eight and a half back. Because Cleveland won again yesterday, you're gonna start 258 00:24:55.960 --> 00:25:00.200 looking at the at the standings. There's going to be a time where it's 259 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.599 gonna go. Okay, I'm yeah, I gotta pay attention here. They're 260 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:11.559 forty nine games deep, they're not even at the halfway point. But this 261 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:19.000 is what you have to ask yourself. Do you believe a team like this 262 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:26.119 can reel off a nice long winning streak similar to that of the Philadelphia Phillies 263 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:33.559 to get them back in it, while at the same time the teams they're 264 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:40.640 chasing would fall flat. That's what you have to ask yourself. What's your 265 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:48.599 answer? I say, yes, I believe they can't. They haven't given 266 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.599 me any indication that they can, but I do believe this team has that 267 00:25:52.680 --> 00:26:03.720 ability because of its pitching. They better get this hitting right Meyer hotline eight 268 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.240 six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. Then who's with us? 269 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.279 Yeah? We got Maury and Grand Rapids. Maury, good morning, thanks 270 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:15.200 for listening there in Grand Rapids on WAX ninety six point one FM. The 271 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.680 game. What's going on? Hey, mag good morning to you too. 272 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:23.759 You know, I'm thinking to myself about this Tigers team. Okay, if 273 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.759 if we if Torkal Center or Byas or any combination of them, to where 274 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:36.200 somebody was just having a reasonably good season. Yeah, I don't think that 275 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:41.359 Tarik Scooble conversation even hits the hits the market yet, you know what I 276 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.480 mean? And that's like the bare minimum that we could you know, hope 277 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.000 for because we we all know, you know, hey, if Green and 278 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.559 Torque and and Byas were hitting good and you were getting you know, some 279 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.039 some support here and their way, you know, we'd be we'd we'd have 280 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.680 a totally different perspective. By point of bringing that up is look how Volido 281 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:06.680 it is, well a team like the Tigers that the narrative can can change 282 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:12.079 so quickly compared to another team like you who's Castiana's playing for is Hemphilliser, 283 00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.720 Yes he is. Yeah, Okay, so you mentioned their lineup and it's 284 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.759 like, yeah, you know what, you know that lineup might struggle a 285 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.240 little bit, but in the long run, man, the numbers are going 286 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.599 to prove out and they're going to be there. And this team doesn't have 287 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.839 that luxury to think that way at all. And I right think and man, 288 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.119 how different it is. Man, how quickly the narrative can change it. 289 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.000 Yeah, yeah, it's because you want. Look, I don't care 290 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.559 what anybody says. I don't care how smart you are in the front office. 291 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.759 I don't care how smart you are in a dugout. There's plenty of 292 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:45.720 them out there who are a hell of a lot smarter than me. But 293 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:52.039 here's what I do know. The best teams in baseball are built with everyday 294 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.880 players. And you want find me a team that's won a championship in any 295 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:03.799 sport that uses guys who are I don't know, really versatile and not being 296 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:08.279 your everyday guys in certain positions, basketball, football, hockey, out of 297 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.759 crack, I don't care what the sport is. Find me the team that 298 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.640 is full of a bunch of guys who can play different positions and do it 299 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.599 differently each game, and that then there's there's your champion. I don't think 300 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:25.960 you're finding it a team full of Ryan Rayburns. Yeah, I mean, 301 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:33.000 go ahead, Ryan Rayburns, go Shane Halter's goal. Yeah, yeah, 302 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.359 yeah, yeah. Look, I love players you're talking about right there. 303 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.599 Trying to win with guys like that every day. That's just a great point, 304 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.000 man, you know your baseball. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, 305 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.839 I appreciate it. You do too more, I appreciate Look, I 306 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:52.480 love players like go ahead and fill in the blank ben Zobrist. I like 307 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.480 them. Do you remember Ben Zobras? Yeah, he was a really good 308 00:28:55.480 --> 00:29:00.279 player. I think every team needs a player like that. I just don't 309 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:07.880 want them starting every day. Go ahead, have some fun with whatever. 310 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.559 I mean, I don't care. Pick a year, okay, and then 311 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:18.960 go find a team that was successful, that is winning, all right, 312 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:29.480 and tell me what their lineup looks like on an everyday basis. And you're 313 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:37.319 gonna get guys who are everyday players. In baseball, it's the best teams. 314 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:45.160 Six we'd just say six guys. Yeah, hey, man, basketball, 315 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.680 you're rotating eight guys for the most part, eight or nine guys. 316 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.480 You know, Monty Williams played too many guys last year. Even he admitted 317 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:59.799 that you'd like to play about eight or nine guys. Okay, the five 318 00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:03.279 or six are the same guys every time, seven, eight, nine, 319 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.559 they might change a little bit. The best hockey teams, those guys are 320 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.759 dressing every single night. You're gonna rotate your goalies once in a while, 321 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.240 but the great goalies, they're playing the lion's share of your games. Okay. 322 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.880 Same thing in football, some reason you have special teams. The guys 323 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:26.759 who aren't playing every single series in offense or defense are playing on your special 324 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:34.519 teams. Baseball is no different. Baltimore has a payroll similar to that of 325 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:38.200 the Detroit Tigers. It's a little misleading because there's so many young players. 326 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.000 They're gonna actually have to pay things eventually down the road. Think of the 327 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:48.880 guys who are playing every day for Baltimore, Adelie Rushman, Gunner Henderson, 328 00:30:48.880 --> 00:31:03.720 Jordan Westberg, Ryan Mountcastle, Anthony Santander, Edrick Mullins, Colton Kowser. 329 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.519 There's those are seven guys I just mentioned right there. Seven. Those are 330 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.880 the guys who are playing every single day. And Rushman, well it probably 331 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:19.119 is a d H as much as catching, but he's a catcher. Look 332 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.559 at the Boston Celtics go ahead shift shift gears if you want, go ahead, 333 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:30.440 change the change them narrative if you will. From baseball to basketball, 334 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:45.519 Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Derek White, uh Peyton Pritchard, Chris Christofspersing 335 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:52.799 has been hurt, Drew Holliday, Al Horfords. I just named six guys 336 00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:00.640 they're playing every day or the majority of it. Okay, or Zingis was 337 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.680 hurt, but he's in that rotation. Did I say Al Horford he's a 338 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.319 little older, but he still plays a lot. Those are the guys you're 339 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:14.000 playing. That's why they win. Those guys are good and they deserve to 340 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.160 play. Now, you could make the argument if you wanted, that the 341 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:22.160 Tigers don't have that type of talent to play every day, and I agree 342 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:28.920 with you. That's why my point has been, you've got to get those 343 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:35.359 guys. Don't give me this in spring training or in training camp or all 344 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.319 this other stuff. Okay, well we've got a really versatile team. That 345 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:45.119 tells you you don't have everyday players. Now you'll look at the statistics and 346 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:51.079 you'll say Green is playing every day, Chorkleson's playing every day bias for the 347 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:57.039 most part, verely are those guys worthy? And I like Spencer Troklesen. 348 00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.359 It's bad to eighteen man, he's got an be of under three hundred, 349 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:09.799 it's got a slugging under three point fifty. That's an issue. I'm not 350 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:14.680 saying, benjam I'm just saying, we're talking about guys who you know every 351 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.240 single day they're gonna produce for you. You're gonna put him in the lineup 352 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:23.799 and they're gonna play that position and you're gonna be fine. I don't know 353 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:29.519 where the hell Mark Canna is gonna play. I don't know where Matt Verlink's 354 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:37.440 playing. Just a big believer in that. Too often, I'll be the 355 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:44.400 first to admit, too often I harken back to the eighty fourteen It's not 356 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:53.160 necessarily fair. It's just not because they were world champions and they are universally 357 00:33:53.279 --> 00:34:00.839 loved in this town, just like the sixty eight team was. Most championship 358 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:07.839 teams are, right, So let's not do that. Let's not go back 359 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:14.000 and suggest that that's the team that you know, everything's measured against. So 360 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:21.599 let's not do that. Let me just how about twenty twelve. Twenty twelve 361 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:29.280 team won eighty eight games. Not too much to ask, right, who 362 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:39.239 are your everyday players. Avila fielder right, Peralta, Cabrera, Jackson, 363 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:46.880 there's five right there. I bring that up because Maury mentioned Ryan Rabert, 364 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:53.119 he was on that team. There's five right there. Omar and Fonte was 365 00:34:53.159 --> 00:35:00.960 at second base, right, but he wasn't an everyday guy. Andy Dirks 366 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:08.199 played a little bit, Brendan Bosch played a little bit. But for the 367 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:13.440 most part, you're talking about five or six guys every single game. They're 368 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:21.920 out there twenty eleven, same thing, Avila Cabrera, Peralta, Ing, 369 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:29.519 Jackson, Ordniez, Victor Martinez. Seven guys every single day. Jim Leland 370 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.159 wrote out the lineup, and he knew who he was going to have in 371 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.760 his lineup. He knew he was going to have at least those seven guys. 372 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:44.639 Ramon Santiago would go back and forth, Rayburn and Kelly. Your utility 373 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:51.719 guys quote unquote, Your utility guys were Rayburn and Kelly. You get some 374 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:57.199 at bats for Andy Dirks, maybe for Delman Young, but overall, you've 375 00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:04.159 got seven guys every day producing and in your lineup. This team doesn't have 376 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:13.239 that. They don't have it. That's what would make some people a little 377 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.800 skeptical. I don't think they're going to be able to do that. You 378 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:22.039 said, can they string it together? They haven't shown it yet. What 379 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:29.559 makes you think they can. This has more to do with my belief that 380 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.320 the other teams can't keep this up, that Cleveland and Kansas City can't keep 381 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.880 this up, and you know, shame on me if they can't, because 382 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:45.760 I haven't been that makes me a doubter. I can't. I just haven't 383 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.880 seen that. I'm having a hard time grasping. Not that I was wrong, 384 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.840 I can plenty of times I've been wrong, hard time grasping that those 385 00:36:53.920 --> 00:37:01.559 teams have enough talent to continue at this rate. We're talking about tied for 386 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:06.400 the best fifty game stretch in the history of the Kansas City Royals, and 387 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:12.480 they've had some pretty good teams. So it's more to do with that than 388 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:17.679 anything else. And there's some hope in there. I'm hoping that the Tigers 389 00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:23.960 can do something like that, and in fairness, they're about to play game 390 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:29.599 fifty right now. I need to go a little bit deeper. I need 391 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:34.119 to see them a little bit longer. I don't think this is the right 392 00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:40.199 sample size yet. When will I get there? A few more weeks. 393 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:49.440 If you're at seventy games, if you're at seventy games and you're still like 394 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:53.719 this up and down, unable to get something really good together. Remember at 395 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.440 the beginning of the year they did string it together. They went six and 396 00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.199 oh they started ten and three on the road, So you know it's in 397 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:06.360 them. So there's another reason why I think it's a possibility. Keeping the 398 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.239 fingers crossed back to the phone lines on the Meyer hotline, then who's with 399 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.800 us? You have? We got David Hudsonville. Hi, Dave, good 400 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.159 to talk to you again. Yeah, morning, chef, you too. 401 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:21.159 Hey, Listen, your your tiger sisty is impressive. Man, you're pulling 402 00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.039 out those guys that Dolman Young's and those other's. Well done by you. 403 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.440 That that takes some memory, man, well done. But you know, 404 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.760 your point too, is great. And I think one of the things you 405 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.519 said that makes a lot of sense is in baseball especially, you need production. 406 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.000 And you don't necessarily need production out of all nine, but you need 407 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:43.159 to have a couple of guys that are having really strong years, you know 408 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.199 what I mean, are really consistent threats, and then you need to have 409 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:50.039 some guys that just give you you know, they get hot at times, 410 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.599 because I think you need to have two to four guys that are hot, 411 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.960 you know, And what hurts us, I thought that Austin Meadows, it 412 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.239 is too bad because you need kind of a table setter. Sont even on 413 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.280 base and you know, find their way on and we're getting some walks, 414 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.440 we're having better at bats, but I just don't feel like we have those 415 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.360 guys that really and especially like you talk about Torque right now or a few 416 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.800 others that go up there and you feel like, other than maybe Riley Green 417 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.599 and that they're a dangerous offensive threat. And Mark Kann is a professional hitter. 418 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.119 But other than that, we don't have enough offense right now. Producing 419 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.880 and I think the key term is producing on a consistent basis to be a 420 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.400 threat. Yeah. I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree one 421 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.679 hundred percent. I think what is It's not that I don't like Mark Connell, 422 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:43.039 Okay, I do. I think he's been a fine pickup for them. 423 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.039 If people say he's a professional hitter, I'm not saying you, okay, 424 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.320 so don't take this personally. Date right, he's a two to fifty 425 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.519 career, lifetime hitter. I mean, I'm not sure if you have no 426 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.199 numbers. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand what people say when they 427 00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.960 go, oh, he's a professional hitter. I just what do you mean? 428 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.840 So that shows you, though, how weak the Tigers are. When 429 00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.079 we think Mark Canna is one of our more consistent offensive drives, he should 430 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.840 be like our six or seventh guy. You know, yeah, no doubt. 431 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:16.199 I mean his best year he hit two seventy three. Okay, yeah, 432 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:21.360 that was in Oakland in twenty nineteen. We hit two seventy three and 433 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:25.519 he hit twenty six bops. And yeah, you take that, you take 434 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.400 it for sure. The problem is, Dave, we've lowered the bar. 435 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.920 We've lowered the bar so much that we think and thanks for the phone, 436 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.480 Cod, It's always good to talk to you. I gotta go to a 437 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.159 break. You think that a guy hitting two seventy three twenty six homersoo, 438 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:45.559 that's our guy most teams. That's just a guy and at the bottom of 439 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.360 the order. He's sitting at the top of the middle of Detroit's order. 440 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.559 That's an issue back with more exes and bros. 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