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It's Tuesday night. You know what
that means. It's time for Ignition with

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aw Fanhub. I'm your host,
Kelson. I'm here with Sleazy C and

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Renee, and we're going to talk
a little bit about the news coming out

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of the weekend. And boy was
there a lot of news, including the

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fallout from World's End the pay per
view on Saturday night. But so much

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has happened after that, I mean, holy cow. One of the biggest

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stories I want to tackle this right
away is reports that Mercedes Monee and her

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talks with WWE have fallen through.
Let's just pretend in a hypothetical situation that

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Mercedes Monee as Summer Predicting will be
debuting tomorrow night on Dynamite. So let's

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fantasy book Dynamite and how she's worked
into it, and maybe not only Dynamite.

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Bud, what's your first feud going
to be? Sleezy? What do

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you think about this? Well,
as long as Mercedes Monett does not act

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like rat fist Man behind the scenes, I feel like her first real potential

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feud that she could potentially have going
on is Brett Baker. You know,

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just a nice little starting point,
you know, beaten and trying to beat

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the crap out of the head of
the women's division, who got how did

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her position by Tony Kahn or whatever? Except she might actually be able to

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cut a decent promo on her And
so maybe you carry that light away for

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a few months and then work her
way up to the aw Women's World Championship,

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depending on whether or not she doesn't
act like rap fistman and injures her

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toe eighty seven days into her run. Yeah, I think that could work

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out pretty good. Yeah, that
makes sense. You want to know something,

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Sleazy, I'm just going to give
you a spoil alert. In my

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opinion on this, you and I
are totally on different planes on this one,

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Believe it or not. I I
almost disagree with everything you just said.

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Not that what you said isn't good. I'm just I just don't think

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it's realistic. And I'm going to
tell you why after Renee you let us

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know and then and then, of
course, sleazy, I'll give you a

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chance to rebut for a rebuttal on
uh on what I say? Okay,

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Yeah, well, I was hoping
she goes against Mariah A because it's making

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her take you right, No opponent
was she does have one. Now,

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she does have one. Now,
okay, they did announce it. She's

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going against Queen Amanada. Yeah,
that's over in two minutes. Okay.

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Uh, well, so so let's
take that off the board for no,

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no, no, because usually when
you have a match, it that's over

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in two minutes, something happens after
the match. So it could be what

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you're saying, does happen my grandpa's
and John Deane right right. But but

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I regardless, I was hoping that
would be that'll be like okay, before

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you mentioned it, calson that it's
gonna be as a prize, like you

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know, like I expect that the
person that's gonna face face someone type of

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situation, right that right, that
would that would probably be a good way

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to bring her in. And my
take on on what you said about on

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the other brand, no, it's
you don't want to burn that bridge the

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second time around, like some someone
else that should not be named because this

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isn't we're to talk about A and
W. So I'm just gonna say that.

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Well, you know, here's the
thing and all right, so initially

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I was thinking about Mariah May as
well, Renee. But here's the thing,

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Mercedes Monet has not wrestled in a
match since May. She's been injured.

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Mm hmm. We all know what
she can do. Yeah. The

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fact of the matter is is that
when she does debut for AAW or whoever

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she debuts for, she's not going
to be ring ready per se. We

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just saw this with thunder Rosa.
She came back and she did not get

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into the ring no matter. She
was a former world champion for AW,

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but she had limited time in the
ring because she doesn't have her ring legs

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under her yet. Okay, so
that's why I kind of disagree with you,

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sleazy, and like I said,
I'll give you a chance to both

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of you a chance to for rebuttal
on my comments here. But I don't

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see her going to first. First
things first, I do not see her

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going into a singles run right away
wherever she ends up. But let's we're

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doing hypothetical here with AW. I
don't see her going against Britt Baker's singles

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right away or anybody else. It's
going to be a tag team because they've

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got to give her time to work
things out, and the only way you

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work things out after an absence is
by getting in the ring look at the

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match after CM Punk came back that
he had with Ricky Starks. I believe

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that was his first singles match when
he came back on collision and Starks literally

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carried him through the match because Punk
just did not have his legs under him

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yet. So that's one point I'm
gonna make so I don't and for the

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same reason, disagree with you again. Sleazy with Britt Baker is Britt Baker

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has been away for quite a while
too. She's in the same situation in

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my opinion, where she has to
get her legs under her again. I

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do believe that Mercedes Monett when she
comes or if she comes to AW is

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going to be in a tag team
situation. The question is which tag team

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Who's she going to tag with?
Most people would say May, maybe Soria,

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you know, or even Mariah May. But I'm going to go to

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Sleay, what do you think about
what I said? You know about my

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opinion, And I'm also interested to
say if we were going to do a

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tag team because I have somebody in
mind from Mercedes Monet as a tag partner,

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and I think I may surprise people
if we're going to do a tag

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team who would you put as Mercedes
Bonet's tag partner. Well, first of

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all, I mean I don't really
think tagging for her would be realistic,

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solely for the fact that, you
know, if we're doing with another wrap

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this man over here, she's probably
gonna be like, oh no, I

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want singles read. But anyway,
in terms of possible tag team partners,

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I'm gonna have to disagree with you
want Soria. I mean, you could

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bring out that whole outcast thing,
which she'd only be able to breathe in

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new life into it for like five
seconds, and would go back to being

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a pile of crap. I agree, there's not really a whole lot of

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options. I guess you could go
with Serena Deep I never even thought of

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that. That's a pretty interesting I
mean, if they're not doing indie reps

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because they think they're so ego centry, like like they're above indies now because

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they're major companies or whatever, they
don't want to do that, then they

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should get in the tag team together. But yeah, what about you,

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Renee, what do you think what's
a good tag partner for Mercedes Monet if

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he does need a tag partner?
Who knows they may put it right in

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the singles. I don't know that's
an interesting pick a storing deep. I

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just can't see it for some reason. I don't know why, and honestly

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I can't pick if anyone else like
okay, maybe like maybe, yet singles

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is probably the way to go,
like another plant too, like god for

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bid, it goes with the outcasts, like like it's about that either,

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No, guys like sure, like
sure, I agree with you. The

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numbers will grow, like let's say
the utter faction from the other brand that

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will not be named. But no, it just doesn't feel right, Like

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I I still think that right now, she like get get her an opponent,

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a decent one at least for singles, and then maybe go from there

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from you know, from Tony conn
and Company's side, where she should do

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what she's do, like put her
as you know, put her in a

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tag team, park matching or whatever
it is. So that's what I think,

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you know, sleazy. I never
thought of Serena d But that's a

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really, really good choice in my
opinion, if Tony Khan was smart,

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he would use Mercedes Monette to elevate
the women's division from the ground up.

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I'm not talking about, you know, literally the ground, but from the

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mid card. Let's let's look at
the mid card. My pick and this

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is this is I'm gonna tell you
why I'm making this pick. My pick

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for a potential partner for Mercedes Monet
is Red Velvet. Okay, okay.

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And the reason I'm picking Red Velvet
is because I honestly believe if Mercedes Monette

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shows up in a w she is
gonna have a mini program with a certain

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person. But that certain person is
not going to be a mini is not

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gonna be a program where it's gonna
be one on one, It's gonna be

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tag teams. So let's look at
somebody. Who that person is is somebody

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who is a contender or a champion
who has a tag partner already. And

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if you remember it all in,
Mercedes Monett did watch one match in particular

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with interest and one female wrestler with
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And for whatever reason I don't know, but they constantly showed her when

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Julia Hart was in the ring with
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So if you had Mercedes Monet in
Red Velvet against Julia Hart and sky Blue

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for you know, like a mini
program just to get you know, Mercedes

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Monette a few matches, to get
her feed under her again, because look,

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the last thing I want to see
is Mercedes Monet not being one hundred

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percent going into a ring against the
likes of Tony Storm or even Chris Statlander

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or something like that and not do
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You see where I'm You see what
I'm saying there. So that's why I'm

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thinking, you know, tag Man, what do you think about I mean,

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I know it's really out there,
but Red Velvet, what do you

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think of that? Pleasi? Well, I'm surprised that you know, you

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would even consider her, considering the
fact that her entrance was ribbed by Taya

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Valkyrie and those two her pretty much
and the irrelevant bowels of irrelevantness in aw

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right now, So pretty surprised.
Choice. Well, Tya Valkyrie has been

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doing really well in Ring of Honors. She's got a street going there,

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you know, kind of kind of
along the line of what's going on with

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with Athena. Of course, not
quite as many wins, but she has,

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right, she is racking up some
some wins over the people be broken

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by Tay and let by Athena because
she did the same thing with Laila Hirsh,

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so now they're going to do the
same thing with Tya Valkyrie. The

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only difference between Athena, I mean
between Layla Hirsh and Tya Valkyrie is Tyer

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Valkyrie has been working uh tag matches
as well, you know, quite a

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bit and doing really well. She's
been working with the renegades of all all

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people, which which I like because
you've got an experienced wrestler with two wrestlers

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that could use guidance, you know. You know, anything that anything that

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an experienced wrestler does with a younger
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the furthers a division. I'll just
put it that way. Renee, what

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did you think about my red velvet
proposal? I'm okay with that now,

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because again I don't have nobody else. I think that you can take out

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the pool. I just maybe I'll
finish just say, I do not want

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a lie with you your heart for
something. Yeah, I mean I don't

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either. I don't want her.
I don't want her to go after the

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TBS Championship, but I'm gonna be
honest with you here, Renee, I

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don't want her to go after the
world championship either, at least not right

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away, because let's face it,
you know, it would be preposterous for

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a w not to give Mercedes Monette
the World championship eventually. But if you

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give it to her too soon,
it kind of diminishes the Yeah, I

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don't know how to put it,
the the the anxiety and the you know,

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the weight for her to have her
moment. If you give her a

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moment too soon, you your shot, you know what I'm saying. So

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so that's you know, it's just
interesting. I just do. I just

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really believe that there's gonna be a
tag team going out of this in some

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way, shape or form, whether
it's Red Velvet or somebody like Layla Hirsh

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or somebody. I think that they're
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And I think that would happen if
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to WWE, if she went to
Japan. She is coming off an injury

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and she hasn't wrestled in what she
got injured in May, so it's been

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seven seven months since she's even stepped
into a wrestling ring. So you know,

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you gotta take some baby steps.
You gotta take some care with this.

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You know, it's not like she's
coming from one company to another.

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That's not what happened. I do, I do want to move on now,

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but I want to talk a little
bit about out some fallout from World's

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End. As we all know by
now, I hope you guys know that

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MGF has been removed from aw's roster
list. Yep, I did so.

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And of course everybody's looking at it
and saying it's a work sleazy Do you

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think it's a work. Uh,
well, kind of has to be.

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I mean, I'm just I'm looking
at all these other people, all these

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other news that it's being like,
oh my god, mgf's going to WW

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And mac Gain literally happened during the
what I'm now calling the summer of MTF,

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when he was literally nowhere to be
seen. This happened back then,

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and guess what he came back that
one pay per view. What do you

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call it? Oh? Yeah?
All out? So and I mean like

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like we're literally calming off of the
climax of the Devil story. So,

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and the thing is, why would
you let somebody go who has just held

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your belt for a record amount of
days. Tony Kahan has not left though,

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of that man. He would not
have put the strap on that man

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unless he signed an extension. So
be prepared when he comes back, probably

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in a few months to recover from
his injuries, to come back on a

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dynamite or pay per view or lead
up to all in, hopefully not a

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lead up to Forbidden Door, because
screw Forbidden Door, and he's gonna come

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back and everyone's gonna be like mg
have to not sign with w WE,

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Gosh Docker. Yeah, take that
news media outlets. Yeah, you know

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here, let me ask you this
sleazy and of course, Renee, I'll

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pose the same question to you after
sleezy answers. We all know that EDGF

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is injured. M hm, So
do you think the injury had something to

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do with him losing the title or
do you think he was gonna lose it

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any way, even if if,
even if he wasn't injured. I honestly

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think he was gonna lose it anyway. Does that mean why would you,

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like, here's the thing, de
mo would Joe? I think it was

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before all the devil stuff and mgf's
injuries and stuff, he dropped the ROAH

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title. Just it's just like being
like, Okay, I'm not the champion

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anymore because I'm just so good.
And then he moves on to the aw

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World Championship. You're really gonna make
him look that week, just you know,

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after being such a strong rh TV
champion. No, that's not what

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you know. Yeah, it was
then that he du that he had left

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up. Yeah you know that kind
of thing, right, like why would

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you drop the belt a vacate a
belt right in the center of aw ring

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at that lose your next big title
match for day? What do you think

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about this? Do you think that
m JF was gonna was destined to lose

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that match? Anyway? I was
hoping name JF will found a way to

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beat Joe because he did be him
last time, if I were right,

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yes, and and of course I
did see a pay per view, but

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I saw the highlights, and yeah, that was surprising, especially like I

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said and the other podcast, or
was you know, given the fact that

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gave a big entrance, and I
think yet before it, you know,

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in other words, you get the
big homecoming, right, one would think

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of everything will be on his side. So and I saw the same thing

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that Sleezy said, like out there, especially wrestling rabbles on YouTube mentioned it

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in there they yo, but rumors
said he was going to go to mg

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to the other brand, you know, and I didn't. I was like,

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how would you do this? First
of all, because m j F,

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for first, we know he's one
of the top tier wrestlers that you

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got on any w and there'll be
a bull move for letting you go for

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nothing, you know, and hopefully
there's the there's gonna be a handshaking between

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Tony Kahan and MGF down the road
because of the reason I just mentioned,

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guys, because what's gonna happen next
if he goes somewhere else? Like will

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will they? Will they go bankrupt
or just or anything else will go sideways?

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Who knows? Well, well,
you never know from week to week,

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day to day what's going on.
I mean, stuff happens and then

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stuff is retracted. You know,
we did not even touch on the Chris

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Jericho thing that's going on, and
I am not going to touch on it,

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but that's a good example. The
words, the stuff that came out

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last week is just kind of totally
change direction this week. You know what

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I mean, so things things happen. It's it's fluid, it's dynamic.

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You know. The one thing that
I don't understand is, you know,

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and I may be totally off base
here, but you know, looking through

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social media, Twitter x, Instagram
and things like that, we all know

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that Andrade wrestled his last match on
December thirtieth. We know that MGF lost

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the title on December thirtieth, and
of course the bidding war of twenty twenty

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four for MGF started on January first, and Andrade has already announced that he

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has left the company. On January
first, his contract ran was up and

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he is a free agent. And
like even the Dirt Sheets, there were

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a couple of Dirt Sheets who expected
Andrade to show up on Raw last night.

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We are recording this on Tuesday.
Whatever happened to thirty day non compete

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clauses? I mean, I don't
know what aw's contracts look like and if

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they even have non competes, but
in my mind, you don't have Andrade

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leave on January first and appear on
January first on another network. That hasn't

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happened since the Monday Night Wars.
That's why they put the don compete clauses

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in there, you know what I
mean. So, and people were shocked

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that Androtti did not show up at
RAW last night, and it blew my

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mind, it really did, because
again, I don't know what aw's policies

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are on wrestlers who have their contracts
run out? Is there a company?

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Is there a don compete clause on
the contracts? Are not? It just

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seems like common sense to me.
I don't think you're going to see andrade

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a in WWE if that is where
he's going to go, which makes perfect

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sense because his wife is there.
I don't think you're going to see him

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there for you know, a few
weeks at at that best. Now I

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could be wrong, but so MGF
lost the belt, and I know this

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is something that's sleazy, really want
to talk about. So you know,

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here, here's the thing. In
the media scrum after World's End, somebody

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asked Tony Kahn what the future is
for the women's division and specifically said,

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are there going to be tag team
belts? Well, look, we already

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have a new belt in the Continental
title. We spoke about this a little

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bit in the Sunday Morning Ship Talk. Okay, but now Tony conn seems

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open to forming a women's tag team
belt now when this is brought up on

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social media or whatever. One of
the biggest arguments I know Sleezy has this

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argument as well because he said it
in the past, is that AW has

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too many belts that I can agree
with, but they have meaningless belts as

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well that they need to either consolidate
or get rid of entirely. So sleazy,

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what is your stance on maybe having
a women's tag division? And do

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AW have too many belts? If? Right now, aw's belt crisis is

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sort of at nearing critical mass.
I mentioned it on the discord server at

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some point with the picture of Eddie
Kingston on the roster page with the Continental

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Championship. But I mean it's nearing
critical mass. You add an AW Women's

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Tag Team Championship right now, there's
too many bells. There's just too many

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bells. They're simple as that.
Now my solution in order to fix this

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so we can get back on track
and TK can stop whinding about knee and

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and more toys. It's very simple. Okay, you have a merger with

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the International Championship and the Continental Championship. Boom, you just fix like half

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your problems, so once those emerge, you're pretty much good to go.

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Okay, if you did the merger
between the International and Continental Championship, what

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do you call the new championship?
Just rename one into the other and merger

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or something like that, give or
take. And I mean that's that would

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mostly be up to Tony Conn.
I don't really have an idea of what

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you would do after you emerged the
belts if I'm gonna okay, RVD,

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Sorry, RVD needs to get get
back to wrestling so we can start merging

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those belts. Okay. So we've
eliminated one belt by merging the Continental and

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International Championship. Are there any other
belts that you see if that could be

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either eliminated or merged? Hm?
You know, that's a really good question.

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If I'm If I'm gonna be honest
here the TVs Championship. I did

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here a few months ago that people
were saying, oh, turn the TBS

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Championship and to tag titles. At
first, I was strongly against the idea

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because I thought that would hamper the
belt crisis. But now that I'm thinking

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about it, I'm thinking, Hm, maybe that could help us. Just

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just turn that into the tag titles
and need to have no need for a

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new women's tag division. I think
that I'm the one that said that,

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actually. But the problem with that
is is that if you have a TBS

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chair, look, a TBS Championship
is kind of like a free advertisement for

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Warner Brothers Discovery. They owned TBS, they own TNT. If you were

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going to do that, get rid
of the TBS Championship, which has become

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quite prestigious over the last few months. When stat Lander and Hart had it,

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it was nothing when when Cargo had
it. Frankly, in my opinion,

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if you took away the TBS Championship, would you have to do something

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with the TNT Championship as well,
not saying get rid of it, but

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maybe rename it to maybe the TNTTBS
Championship. Hmm. I mean yeah,

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that would depend on whether or not
Warner would allow intergender wrestling, you know.

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So if you had those two belts
merge into one, then make it

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a whole intergender class, now that
would be fucking awesome. Right. So,

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so we've we've eliminated, we've merged
the Continental Championship with the International Championship.

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We've kind of sort of maybe done
something with the TBS Championship. Is

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there any other belts that you could
think of? Hmmm No, not really?

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Okay, what about you and A? Are there anything that you would

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merge or eliminate to create more spots
for more meaningful belts? So we can't

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take the TNC and the TBS belt
because it's a Warburg's property, correct,

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right, well it's not. I
mean it's aw property. But they're doing

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it to advertise Warner brother product.
Right, Okay, since that that was

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the only other thing I could think
of, But then again, you know

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they'll be, they'll be just maybe
I want one or two less belts that

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someone once again just just for the
sake of saying, hey, I got

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I won this, you know when
it's like the way you bring a Stanley

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Cup type of thing. But anyways, Uh, I agree with Selasie with

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says, uh and worst eliminate,
eliminate those in the intercontinent? Is that

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right? Uh? Merging the international
and yeah, that's good. Probably the

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only thing you can do at the
moment, like other not As I said,

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he can't take out the TVs and
t A Tea because it's a winner

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Warner Discovery brand. But however,
I still think you can, we still

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can make a tag team belt for
for both sides. It's it's just just

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for the sake. It's like so
anyone, anyone has a chance to to

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compete and win it. You know, I know, I know both of

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you are saying that both the belts
to downsized, but just I don't know,

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just just feel rising. No,
no men's women's tag team belts.

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You know there is a men's tag
team belt. Yeah, starts a big

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bill. I don't you, I
don't know. I'm sorry. The tag

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team without a name, the tag
team without a name that are the attack

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team, but are two singles wrestlers
right right each other. I apologize,

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I understanding because look, did they
defend an ed World's End? No?

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No, they be give an eight
like a right tag group of man tag

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team match. It's just like the
outer one, which still didn't make no

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sense to me. But that's not
the point, you know, my Here's

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here's the thing. Okay, the
men's tag team definitely has to stay.

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I truly believe we need a women's
tag title. Okay, I agree.

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Another belt that was not defended at
World's End and really hasn't had, But

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I think maybe one defense in in
weeks is the Trios Championship. I've never

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liked that belt. Get rid of
it. I mean, it's totally,

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totally meaningless. It's it's a detriment, to be honest with you, because

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it's taking There aren't enough trios in
a w to have a trios Championship.

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Billy Gunn is currently one of the
members of the acclaimed well that Billy Gunn,

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and he's not going to be around
forever. So what are you gonna

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do? Everybody that I mean,
top Flight and Action Andretti couldn't get it

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done. I mean the House of
Black, they lost it to them,

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you know, and now they're looking
like they're gonna be a tag team.

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I mean they're going into Malchi Black
and Brody Brody Buddy Matthews. I'm sorry,

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you're going after FDR on collision.
Brody King just did the whole Continental

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Classic thing. The Trios Championship could
easily be take it away and made into

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the into the women's tag team.
I do agree with you, Sleazy,

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that the International Championship and the Continental
Championship should be merged. I really do

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believe that. I know that I've
said this before, and you know you

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guys don't agree with me on this, or I know Sleazy doesn't, But

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the FDW Championship is a waste,
you know, so that I mean,

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there's no prestige there, and frankly
it's a a W has a thing where

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I believe. Let me ask you
this in all honesty, which this is

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for Sleezy and for for Renee.
Which a W title belts are upper tier

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belts right now? Have you know
Tier A champions and that's that Sleezy,

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go tell me which ones? Well, that would be the AW World Championship,

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Okay, and Netty, that's it
now in the past. Well,

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let me go to let me go
to Renee real quick because I'm gonna ask

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you both another question. Which which
titles in a W right now? The

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title belts do you think are A
the A class. I'm with Sleazi on

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the on the the one that didn't
Jeff last, uh, But the rest

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of them, it's it's like it's
hard to say, you know. Okay,

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I'm gonna name off the titles and
you guys tell me whether they're a

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class or you know, top tier, you know, mid card or lower

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card? Uh? Okay, So
we have the a W Men's World Championship.

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That's top that's that's top card.
It's the same for me, okay,

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a W Women's World Championship. So
it's kind of between the top tier

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in mid card for you. For
me, it's gonna to be because it'smever,

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it's men's and women's divisions, right, it has to be top tier

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for the for the women's side to
go chase that that belt. Okay,

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Well, I think that the AW
Men's Championship is a top tier card a

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title. I do think that the
the a W Women's Championship should be a

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top tier title, and it sometimes
is and sometimes it falls to just above

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mid card. It just depends on
who holds it. Okay. The tn

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T title sleazy mm hmmm plus So
you think that's a mid card title,

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and uh but it's a C plus
meaning mid card, the higher mid card.

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Okay. And just before we go
up and go on, what about

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the TVs title even with hard I
have to say a D. So you

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think it's a lower mid card Okay, what about you renee the TNT title

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and then the TBS title. It's
like you can basically flip up eight or

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one to be honest, guys.
But but the correct answer to me can

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sincerely established at the Awn's Whim's titles
are top tier. I would think it's

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probably gonna have to be a mid
card, Okay, mid card. I

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agree with both of you. I
do believe that the TBS, the TNT

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title. I kind of gotta go
with Sleazy. I think the t TNT

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title is a mid card title,
but it's been elevated a little bit with

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Christian Okay, yeah, let's not
talk about that. Yeah that, But

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and I do think that the TBS
titles is a mid card time all right.

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So the tag team titles, I
mean, we've had some pretty good

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tag teams in that in there right
now, you know, holding those tag

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titles FTR, the bucks, et
cetera, et cetera, the tag team

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without a name. Where would you
put the tag titles, Sleazy, that

404
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:29.280
would be so kind of a upper
mid card or a lower top card.

405
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:36.360
Yeah, okay, what about you, Reday? Yeah, so that so

406
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.000
I agree with Sleazy here too.
Like returns of belts, I would put

407
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:45.920
in after the world the world haveweight
championship belt because that's what of course,

408
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.400
that's the way you want to go
for if you're a tag team, right,

409
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.920
that's right, right, right.
So, by the way, I'm

410
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.320
not talking about the wrestlers you hold
the titles. I'm talking about the titles

411
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.000
themselves, the prestige, the pristige
for the titles. Yeah, and that's

412
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:07.480
what I'm going by to. Okay, so let's stop. Let's talk about

413
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:19.960
the trios title sleazy what did you
what did you say? B plus C

414
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:27.440
plus So basically maybe an upper mid
card title for you? Okay? Uh?

415
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.360
For me, well, it was
see when it first brought out as

416
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.039
much as long as I remember,
guys, it was well, it was

417
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.320
kind of it was like in a
shiny joy. But you're right, Kelston.

418
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:43.320
Over over the last a little bit, it's been downward danger and it's

419
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.039
nothing. I guess the claim because
I'm gonna put Daddy as s part the

420
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:51.880
claim. Okay, I don't know. It's just there's not many contenders that

421
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.800
could compete. Although I still think, and I said it on the chat

422
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:01.480
on for on the rampage chats,
that I give it, let me get

423
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:05.400
to it, let me get to
it, that I still think top flight

424
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.519
in a dream have shot. But
anyways, I would have to put it.

425
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:15.360
I have to agree with with Slazy. Was it you said class?

426
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:24.920
He said, so you said C
plus I don't remember now yeah yeah,

427
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.000
yeahah yeah, because because there's lots
of shine, you know. Yeah,

428
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:38.519
that's why like for me, for
me, for prestige trios, absolutely a

429
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:45.880
lower card. Okay, I don't
think that it's one of those that whoever

430
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:51.360
wins it is seen as a champion
there. It's like a it's like a

431
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.840
consolation prize for somebody who couldn't win
the tag team belts. I don't know,

432
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:59.800
it's it's the way I look at
it, all right. So here's

433
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:07.239
the here here we're gonna we're gonna
combine the Continental and International Championships prestige for

434
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:19.199
the International and Continental Championships, they
are currently F tier F okay and and

435
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:30.320
renee What was it again, guys? If you be if we're gonna merge

436
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:35.800
the continental and International championship, what
tier would that be? Considering who is

437
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.000
who is the champion and we're the
champions in the past, of course,

438
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:45.719
the International Championship has only had won
two champions really something like that? Yeah,

439
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:52.440
would be wrong to say, like, uh, okay was the Jeff

440
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:58.920
when his guy's belt until he lost
I would put underneath that. Okay,

441
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.519
So you're gonna say, is like
a B like an upper mid card,

442
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:08.559
no actually below the world the world
every championship, okay, so like a

443
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:15.119
top card, you know, just
a lower top card like okay, So

444
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:22.800
maybe I'll try this way. The
Belt haveway Championship number one, number two

445
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:28.800
be what what you're you're asking for, right, Okay, So one would

446
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:35.599
be the a W Men's Championship and
the Continental International Championship number two I'm going

447
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:43.039
to say that, well, look, with the International and Continental Championship,

448
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:49.599
I've i've for the first couple of
months that that Orange Cassidy held the belt,

449
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.360
I was on board, and that
it became painful to even pay attention

450
00:40:53.440 --> 00:41:00.000
to. And the Continental Championship to
me is completely an utterly mean because of

451
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:06.519
who got it. Uh So I've
given it an f myself. I've given

452
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:14.880
it the absolute Both of them are
the maybe worse than the trios and as

453
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.440
far as meaning absolutely meaningless for me. And I get that there's people that

454
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:25.039
I'm not discounting the great matches in
the in the Continental title and the great

455
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:35.079
matches that Orange Cassidy has had with
defending his international title. Alls I'm saying

456
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:47.480
is that we've got the I mean
international title is being being is being defended

457
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:53.639
against jobbers on rampage. There's no
prestige to it now, and the continental

458
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:59.039
title to me is completely meaningless because
Eddie Kingston has it. That's just my

459
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:06.000
opinion, right, you know.
So that's that. Are there any belts

460
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.960
that we missed? Oh oh,
this one's going to be interesting. FTW

461
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:21.599
Championship sleazy, go ahead. You
Well, if we're talking outside of my

462
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:25.719
opinion on how prestigious it is,
we're talking about in the logical grand scheme

463
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.440
of things or we're talking my opinion, well you could say you could even

464
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.920
say both. And you're I know, you're a fan of the FTW Championship,

465
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.480
so you're going to think that it's, you know, probably more prestigious

466
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.159
than what others would think. But
you could also say what you think other

467
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.639
the prestige you think it holds for
others as well? Well? In terms

468
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:52.079
of my of my personal and totally
humble opinion, it is a plus plus

469
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:59.360
hyper Donkey Kong Deluxe Edition. So
you think of today, you think it's

470
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.519
a top tier card. Yes,
even though no top tier wrestlers have ever

471
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.679
challenged for it. Okay, and
what do you what do you think the

472
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:15.199
perception is as for the current perception
around it, which yeah, I'd say

473
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:22.840
d plus o guys, you think
it's an upper bid mid card file perceived.

474
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:29.039
Yeah, okay, uh, Renee, what do you think put it

475
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:35.840
on put it on her anything?
Continental belt? Because what based on what

476
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:39.480
test has set up in his commentary
in the last little bit, I think

477
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:44.119
including the pay per view, it's
like it's it's some perceived even though it's

478
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.000
not an official belt, but there
has there has been a few people who

479
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:52.119
have all the belt we will not
name because you know, you know,

480
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:58.559
we know who they are. So
that's what I think about it. Okay,

481
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.360
zeb be number three, Okay,
it'll be number three. To me,

482
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:07.320
it's right there with the Trios Championship. I mean, it's a zero

483
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:20.679
hour belt okay, that rarely gets
defended on TV. And frankly, that's

484
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:27.159
that's my feeling about it. It's
it's a completely meaningless belt, has no

485
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:32.119
meaning at all. There's no talk
about it, there's I don't know it

486
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.039
just it is what it is.
But anyway, I mean, the gist

487
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:43.199
of the matter is is that there
are varying opinions on the prestige of a

488
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:49.159
W titles Right now, one thing
I do want to say, and I

489
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.039
don't know, and I'm gonna ask
if you agree with this, and they've

490
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:58.800
gotten a little better at this,
Actually a W should be about winning and

491
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:06.639
defending contesting for AW titles, not
Ring of Honor titles. Do you guys

492
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.639
agree with that or do you think
that having Ring of Honor matches ads prestige

493
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:17.400
to aw TV. Well here here's
the deal, at least from my perspective,

494
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:23.400
all right, ever since I got
here onto this podcasting deal is uh,

495
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:30.519
get the honor out of aw It's
kind of like it's it's kind of

496
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.719
like WWE's doing, or like get
the f out. I'm like, get

497
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.599
the honor out now. Don't get
me wrong. I'm not saying that we

498
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.840
can never have other belts in this
promotion, you know, but the fact

499
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.480
of the matter is they can't be
showing up on a weekly basis. It

500
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.400
should just be more so like a
special occasion like what Christian Cage and Kenny

501
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.639
Omega were doing back in the pandemic
with the TNA title and whatever the hell

502
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:57.960
Kenny Omega was doing with the Triple
A title back in the Pandemic or whatever

503
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.840
the hell Kenny Omega was doing with
the Impact title back the Pandemic. You

504
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.400
see what I'm saying here. Absolutely, you know I'm spoil alert. I

505
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:08.800
agree with you undred percent sleazy.
I mean, can can't say it better

506
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:14.960
than you did. It's just special
occasion, yes, but having there was

507
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:20.199
this entirely too many matches for ROH
titles, you know, on AWTV.

508
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:25.079
And and here's the other thing.
If we recall the build up to All

509
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:31.920
Out twenty twenty two EXCaliber, the
play by play guy who was trying to

510
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:39.000
announce all of the matches for aew
all Out had to mention it probably I

511
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.519
might be wrong about this at least
like seven or eight title matches. And

512
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.880
in the middle of it he lost
his breath and he had to take a

513
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:57.519
breather. That's saying something, you
know, all right? Well, yeah,

514
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.760
Redee Renee, what do you think? You know? What is your

515
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:07.199
take on a W having. Do
we have too many Ring of Honor matches

516
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:14.079
title matches on on a W for
the well for I don't think so,

517
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:21.239
because this is going to be very
controversially saying this, but since I know,

518
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.280
I know you can get it on
our club. But for a guy

519
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.760
like me who can't get it,
it's like, at least you got to

520
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.800
see salt from r o AH coming
up on a W program at least,

521
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:37.079
and and have and show it to
at least the audience. It shows on

522
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:42.280
their networks of T T and TBS, you know, because I've mentioned many

523
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.639
times when the case We're Eating even
Paige you know, wasn't a W and

524
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:52.559
he went to r o H and
p back but to fight against Cam which

525
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.440
was not. There was no belts. But the point is least you got

526
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:01.760
people coming up from that that formo
that from our age to a W just

527
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:07.280
for that reason for those who have
never seen before. And that's what I

528
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.639
sort of like about that. But
the only thing, maybe the only thing

529
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.400
they could do, like yes,
you can have the belts, but tone

530
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.280
it down to to I don't know, to what, do as little as

531
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:24.960
possible and maybe maybe maybe do definitely
have to show it on occasion, but

532
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:29.320
no, like uns's the only thing
I can think of. They're just doing

533
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:36.480
as filler because you know the time
that they have the two hour on say

534
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:42.119
Collision or Dynamite or at least one
hour on ramp page. So okay,

535
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.480
fair enough, So I just want
to touch before we before we wrap things

536
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.239
up, I want to touch briefly
on the matches that we have for Dynamite

537
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.880
tomorrow, we have Maria May and
Queen Amanada, we square Strickland and Daniel

538
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:02.440
Garcia, and for the International Championship, Orange Cassidy and Dante Martin. Sleazy,

539
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.920
what should those three matches? Are
you most intrigued about? Well,

540
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.199
I'm certainly not intrigued about Mariah Way
versus Queen and Mantis, simply because I'm

541
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:20.440
just going who. But I guess
are you? Are you saying who for

542
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.840
both of them or just one of
them? Both of them? Okay,

543
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:30.400
yeah, I guess. I'm more
so confused about the Orange Casting versus Dante

544
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.400
Martin match. I thought that was
gonna be an Orange Cassidy plus best Friends

545
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:40.079
versus Action Andretti and Top Flight Trios
match, but thank god it's not anyway.

546
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.159
So I guess the Swears Strickland and
Daniel Garcia match that got announced,

547
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.079
I'm pretty intrigued about that. I
mean, they were just in the Continental

548
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:53.719
Trash files, so I mean,
what the hell is going to happen?

549
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:59.920
Okay, what about you, Renee, What's what shall those matches? Has

550
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.880
you intrigued the most? So I
already I already said what I said about

551
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.960
the the Many Crown. That's gonna
be a squashed matter for two minutes.

552
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:13.480
And I feel bad because you know, I'm where our name is has some

553
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:20.519
moments that you can go. But
we can scratch that off there the I

554
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.719
I'm like Sleza, I'm interested of
Swerve and dank Garcia, like see what

555
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:30.639
happens, like if it's going to
because don't forget dank Garcia has backup from

556
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:37.079
the former jas or what are two
point zero and of course uh Swerve has

557
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:43.400
his backup with who he's aligned with. So but I but I'm just gonna

558
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.199
say right now, I just think
Swerve someone's gonna find a way to win

559
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:52.440
that match and the last one Cassidy
and uh Mark Dante Martin, Like,

560
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.760
I'll be honest with you, I
wanted to see tough flight, which I'm

561
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:01.760
gonna put action during as part as
as that against against the best friends,

562
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:07.320
because I thought what they did before
it was it was awesome to see.

563
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:12.519
But nevertheless, I really think in
my mind that Dante mar is gonna win

564
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.840
that win it, I really do. You'll find a way. So that's

565
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.599
an interesting take. Yeah, you
know, I'm gonna be honest with you,

566
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.800
Renee, I don't and and sleazy
because you both said it. I'm

567
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.639
happy with the Orge Cassidy and Dante
Martin match. I do think Orge Cassidy

568
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.679
is going to win. But but
you know, I much prefer this match

569
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:36.679
to a you know, this is
a meaningful match for a championship belt,

570
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:44.039
and it should be a good match
for the championship belt, whereas if we

571
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:50.039
have a trio's match, it's probably
gonna be a forgettable match. Not saying

572
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:54.079
it won't be good, I'm just
saying it'd be forgettable for nothing. No,

573
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.920
I don't know. I just I
still think that notch that they already

574
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.480
had before it was unre page that
because I comment on the not on the

575
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.880
reddit one, but the show Luchet
on Discords did. I thought I liked

576
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:14.760
this because the crazy stuff that went
on between everybody, you know, like

577
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.719
it was just like it was weeks
ago for Top Light dre Facing wherever they

578
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:24.840
face the valid Kingo where we want
to call them so but yeah, I

579
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:30.079
mean, look, I'm intrigued by
all three of the matches, to be

580
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.840
honest with you. Uh, since
we did really touch on Mariah May and

581
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.360
Queen Amanada, I'm gonna touch on
that if we do get Mercedes Monet,

582
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:44.360
We're probably gonna get Mercedes Monet in
this match, unless she just comes out

583
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:49.360
randomly, like if somebody's doing a
promo and whatnot. Well, we're more

584
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:54.000
certainly gonna see is probably Tony Storm
and how she reacts to Mariah May getting

585
00:52:54.079 --> 00:53:00.360
some spotlight on Dynamite, and she
may not be happy about it, and

586
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:06.960
this may drive a little bit of
a wedge between Mariah May and the deranged

587
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:13.840
Tony Storm, you know, arcissistic
Tony Storm. You know, I really

588
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:22.000
wish that Mariah May had had a
more familiar opponent, like somebody like Sky

589
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:28.639
Blue or Ruby soho. Even because
if you've not seen Mariah May and Wressel,

590
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:35.159
she can really go. She's brutal. I mean, she's she's a

591
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.559
bumping machine. She can take it
and she can dish it out. She's

592
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:45.199
very much She's not as big as
say, like Chris Statlander, and she's

593
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:49.400
not as strong as Chris Statlander,
but she gives that kind of a Chris

594
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:54.440
Statlander Aura. She's got the athleticism
of somebody like Julia Hart Lady Frost.

595
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.360
She's just I think she's gonna she's
I think she's gonna win a lot of

596
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:07.000
people over. She's given the opportunity
to win people over. It would be

597
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.400
nice to see those people that you
mentioned to Kelsey and Ley Frossten, whoever

598
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:17.079
it is. But yeah, I
agree with your assessment on a storm that

599
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:24.840
you know that she's gonna have her
diva moment and then something's gonna happen between

600
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:31.119
those two. I uh yeah.
Before we wrap things up, I want

601
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:36.239
to get to our spicy predictions for
tonight, and I'll go first and give

602
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.360
you guys a little bit of a
chance to think about it. Of course,

603
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:44.599
when you get the spicy predictions,
the word on everybody's lips is Mercedes

604
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:49.880
Monette. Is she going to debut
tomorrow night? I don't think so,

605
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:58.320
to be honest with you, but
we may get another woman that will possibly

606
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:06.480
debut tomorrow night, and that's Dianna
Parrazzo. Don't be surprised. Don't be

607
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:15.079
surprised. Sorry, you know that's
don't be surprised. If that happens.

608
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.639
So let's go to sleazy. Do
you have any spicy predictions for tomorrow night?

609
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:24.159
Well, first, I'd like to
comment on that last prediction once again.

610
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.280
Well, if you don't, if
you don't know, if you don't

611
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:32.239
know Dianna Parozzo, I think you
should go look her up, buddy,

612
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:38.920
hopefully. I mean, I mean, yeah, okay, on that no,

613
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:45.760
seriously, seriously, if in the
free agent market right now, in

614
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:50.719
all honesty, if if you look
at the free agents, on the free

615
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:57.239
agent women specifically, I think you'd
be surprised how many people have Diana Parrazzo

616
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:04.400
is number one over Mercedes Martinez,
Bartinis, Martinez Monett. She's again,

617
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:10.079
she is a gat she now she
is more of a powerhouse. She's not

618
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:15.719
like the athletic type that you would
get with, you know, somebody like

619
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:22.480
Mariah May, Mercedes Monette, Julia
Hart. She's more of a I'm gonna

620
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.599
beat the snot out of you type
of type of wrestler. She's an imposing

621
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:31.400
she's imposing, but that way.
But it's so she has a totally different

622
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.519
style. But my god, is
she good. She really is good?

623
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:42.000
Right, Well, hopefully Mercedes Mercedes
Mona does not enter ado you because I

624
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:50.840
fear another wrapis man situation happened.
But anyway, in terms of spicy predictions,

625
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.840
I do not have any spice.
I need to buy some from Dollar

626
00:56:54.960 --> 00:57:02.360
General. Of course, Well I
have a I can't believe you went through

627
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:12.039
an entire entire podcasts Leazi wellout mentioning
Jungle Boy. Do you think there's any

628
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.559
chance of him showing up tomorrow night? Oh yeah, I hope to God

629
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:21.119
so so we can claim what is
rightfully his, which is the ft W

630
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.960
Championship. No, I thought you
were going to say the window. No,

631
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.400
oh thank you. All right,
all right, Redee, we're wrapping

632
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:37.519
up, So give us your spicy
prediction for tomorrow night's dynam I'm I'm gonna

633
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:43.719
eliminate that the Jungle Boy getting the
W going for w belts. Okay,

634
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.840
that's what the real spice prediction is. The Devil the Devil's Man will show

635
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:55.760
up on on Dynamite or or red
page and going rock shaw and kick kicking

636
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:02.119
ass and taking names of everybody,
everybody, kind of like the NWOL yep,

637
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.679
pretty much. You still take a
page of us of that playbook and

638
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:13.039
it's like show that we run this
company, not toty Khn. It's us

639
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.920
because if you saw, you saw
who was there, and I'm still shocked

640
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.880
of all the people that they had, which I'm gonna just go over one

641
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:24.559
more time. You have Roderick,
you have Warlow, you have the Kingdom

642
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:30.280
there besides Adam, which I'm still
surprised that he was part of it after

643
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:35.119
I say for months and months,
there's no freaking way he could be part

644
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:39.159
of that, considering what he went
through and then Dan being friends with m

645
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:44.679
J F and all like rap.
So that's my prediction. The Devil,

646
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:49.679
the Devil's man are gonna start causing
ship. Oh right, you think everyone's

647
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:54.599
gonna start throwing trashing them and they're
gonna drop a drop a leg on some

648
00:58:54.920 --> 00:59:01.119
popular guy or whatever. An ancles
could like, this is the devil warkeping

649
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:07.800
organization. Brother, I don't see
like that. Those lazy but I just

650
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:13.920
think that there now that they establish
the people that are part of this faction,

651
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.920
if you will, maybe they'll add
a few more people as well.

652
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:23.840
They're gonna cause havoc to anybody that
they're step up. Maybe they could go

653
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:27.360
get against House of the House of
Black. As far as I'm concerned.

654
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:31.119
You know, it's gonna be interesting
because look, also to morrow night we

655
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:37.119
have Christian Cage coming out giving a
basically a stated union address to help us

656
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.679
into the aw fans, which is
gonna be funny. But are we gonna

657
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:45.679
see the Devil and or his goons
tomorrow night? And uh, you know

658
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:50.559
there's a question. Maybe we'll talk
about this tomorrow night after we see We'll

659
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.480
talk about it on All Leak Talk
tomorrow night after we see what happens on

660
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:59.599
Dynamite, Right. But what I'm
more interested in this was people are really

661
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:05.639
not talking about this, is that
Samoa Joe, the new aaw Men's World

662
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:09.320
Champion, somebody who was known for
his honor and not going against this word,

663
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:19.400
went against his word with MJF and
and he worked with the Devil and

664
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:22.400
his goons. Now, was this
a one off kind of thing or is

665
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:27.639
he going to continue to somehow work
with the Devil and his goons? Maybe

666
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:32.880
not as a full time goon or
so to speak, but is he going

667
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.360
to be involved to a point where
he's going to just kind of show up

668
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:44.519
randomly at opportune times to take advantage
of different things. And if anybody does

669
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:52.199
challenge Samoa Joe for the aw Men's
title because you know, Revolutions coming up,

670
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.760
so he is going to need a
challenger. And will the Goons and

671
01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:01.360
the Devil get involved in that.
That's a pretty interesting question and some of

672
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:07.199
that may be set in motion tomorrow
night on aw Dynamite and after aw Dynamite

673
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:13.440
we will be doing all lead talk
and of course during aw Dynamite, we

674
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:20.679
will be having a live chat on
our subreddit aw fan Hub for Sleazy and

675
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:24.039
Renee. This is Kelson. Thank
you for listening to Ignition. Good night

676
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:27.079
everybody, Hi, y else,