Good evening, leads and gentlemen. Is Tuesday night, and this is a
very special day to my right the man, the mydth Legend, the Admiral
of the airwaves, a point Dexter podcast, your favorite of mine, the
birthday boy himself fifty two and six foot two baby, and he is still
put his cock through the white pig and face. Put your hands and in
it for bad mora, whoa duggie die? You never disappointed, You never
disappointed. Look at that little sweet emotions, sweet emotion, and you've been
having sweet emotions all day on your birthday. Happy birthday, Bell. Well,
thank you. I appreciate that. Very kind to you. I was,
yeah, it was. I mean it was a day, right,
it was a day. You're night. What are you gonna do? You're
old though, after fifty at sixty seventy eight, when you start hitting ages
where you go, shit, that sounds old. So where I start and
I don't think. So. You want to know what I wanted to do
today? And I did? It was I wanted to go and work out,
so that I usually take a strength class. It's me and all women
on Tuesdays and Thursdays around lunchtime. Just you and all. It's me and
all women the gym that I instruct boxing at. So I've gone sporadically throughout
the summer. But I'm like, you know what I've been running lately.
I'm like, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go do that. So
this morning I came in here, I was working. I was here by
like eight o'clock. I get a call from my father. My father is
uh calls me. It's like it's like nine, and he goes, Oh,
it's gonna go to the gym, but I'm blocked in. They're paving
the driveway in the back. They're mowing alaw of the bunyway. He stuck
here for a half hour, so I figured i'd call you happy birthday.
I'm glad to be thought. Then he goes, I can't believe it was
fifty two years ago. I threw your grandmother out of the apartment. My
mom's parents had come up and I was the first child. I was a
ten pound baby, and I think at the time they didn't they didn't do
cesarean as much. So my mother wanted a natural birth, so they basically
pulled me out. She needed to spinal all this shit, and I guess
my grandmother decided she wasn't feeling well and couldn't travel home the hour and a
half. My grandfather at the time was a New York City fireman. He
needed to get down and do a shift in New York City, so he
leaves her and my uncle, who was seventeen at the time. My mom
was twenty four, and they stay at the apartment with my dad, and
my dad said, you know, you're getting all these calls from everybody.
It's the first it's the first kid, and she's chiming in on every call.
Oh, I'm telling that now that he goes Finally, I slammed the
phone down and go, that's it, get out, and he threw them
out just like that, kicked her bag down the stairs. And yeah,
my grandfather had come back from New York City pick up. But he's talking
like it happened today or yesterday or last week. It was fifty two years
ago. It's one of those memories still, I just it cut right through
to this son was born and remembers everything. Well, I guess, and
so yeah, but see, I've had three and I don't remember everything from
all those Well that's true. I do remember getting very upset because at the
time, my wife and I just wanted us in there, and my wife
had some health complications with things, and her mom had always been like her
healthcare proxy and was very concerned and anestea or you know, whatever medication they
were gonna be using, it was an anesthesia, and she wanted to be
in there. And I think I remember saying to my wife at the time
that I go, Jesus Christ, because her mom was really little, I
go, she wants to put on a miner's cap climbing in your vagina and
cheer the kid out. Tell her to stay the fuck. So it was
my version of throwing her out of it. No, they were great,
but it's it's a high pressure situation. It is a high pressure situation,
and it was and my wife, who probably would have not had a problem
with her mom being in there, it certainly stood my wishes and did not.
And it was just us in there. Yeah, yeah, as it
should be. He was the doctor, the nurse. Yeah, yep,
that was That was it. And that was a tough one that the first
guy was was a little rough. Yeah, but then not having any kids,
I wouldn't know that experience. She could be like the old days where
you just sat in the other room and smoke a cigar and let the doctor
come out and tell you, well it's a boy, Well it's a girl.
My mom actually did tell me a story, and I was going to
call her later tonight. She was telling me that. So at the time,
my grandmother could. She just had a way about her. I loved
her, but there were many, many, many people. I mean even
at her funeral, I said something and one woman came up to me afterwards
and goes, thank you for saying that, because she made life hell for
anybody who was coming. Like my uncle's wife, she was just she was
just awful. She even used to say to like a first girlfriend, I
brought her around this guy. I don't know if I like it. She's
very bossy, she was loud, she would just say it, you know,
and she had strong opinions on things. I'll tell you one that was
one of my favorites with this woman. Had two moments that I just absolutely
loved with my grandmother, and they were one, I was older, she's
old school Irish right from not from Ireland, but her family pretty much,
and that there was a year that they decided this is terrible and I could
get in a lot of trouble for saying this. I do not believe in
this anymore. I never believed in this, but it was funny for the
effect. And I think if I said this, even two people who were
gay, they would be okay with it. But at the time, they
were starting to allow in the Saint Patrick's Day Parade, which was a high
holy day in my family, and my grandfather every year would march with the
Fireman in the New York City Saint Patrick's Date brain Well, this year my
grandfather had I think passed. By this point, they were allowing gays to
march in the Saint Patrick's Date parrade. And I don't forget even Catholicism wasn't
recognizing gay people within the institution of the church. It was, you know,
their belief What's God didn't like this and all this stuff. So it
comes across the news. And when my mom had a TV in the kitchen
and it's and it's just me and my grandmother sitting there, and I had
to be God. Yeah, I think my kids were around, so I
had to be in my early thirties, and I said, look, at
that. You know, she goes get her. I know, I know,
you know what they do. They put that filthy thing in their mouth.
No, it could be anybody like an rose sexual put filthy. They
had nothing to do with anything. But I said this to your grandmother.
Yeah, God, Doug. Probably like ten minutes later, I start here
like that noise. I don't know what. I don't know what's going on.
I go, what's going on? They put that filthy thing in the
mouth. I fucking lose it, laughing like I can't breathe. My mother
doesn't know what's coming on. She hears my grandmother sounds like she's choking.
Who knows what. She comes running in. I'm laughing, and she goes,
what is so goddamn funny? And I'm trying. I can't even explain
it. I cannot. I cannot do this. Just watch the parade,
Yes, we're watching the news about the parade that was coming up. I
mean, just insanity. And then there was a time where, uh,
we threw a thirty fifth wedding anniversary for my parents who were married close to
thirty eight years, and then they split. But uh, this is a
big deal, and they had gone out and We had all these flower arrangements
and things, and my grandmother, my parents went out, and my wife
at the time and my sister really kind of organized this whole thing, and
they were prepping the food and all this. My brother and I were doing
some things, and I think my sister at the time, this is terrible.
I'll give you another one for my birthday. But listen, see this
is where I go. I don't want to get canceled. My sister was
dating at the time a guy who was of Korean descent, so he's yeah,
I mean, he's kind of I think this just might have been one
of the first times he's ever meeting all of us, and they're kind of
serious. I think they were living together at the time. So she's introducing
and then somebody says, well, we got to iron the tablecloths, and
my grandmother had been drinking, like steadily drinking. And she looks at him
and goes, well, yeah, people can do that pretty well, like
like it was nothing, like it was nothing, And I go, oh
my god, Oh my god, that's twenty years ago. And even he
was raised. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. She died at ninety six
years old, so she's been through a lot of decades of change, but
who says that. Then she gets so drunk that night I drunk. She
hammered to the point where my brother decided he was drink it too. He
took the hose, the detachable hose, out of the sink and put up
between his legs and pretends he's like pin and it's landing on her and she's
dancing around, has no idea grandma's all drunk. My mom had this room,
and they had this really beautiful big house, and it had two entrances.
One was French stores on one end, and one was just a single
glass door off the dining room, but it was two enters into the same
room. There were two couches on either side that faced each other, a
table like a coffee table in between, and a fireplace right and vaulted ceilings.
And so my grandmother finally has had enough and she went and she laid
down on the couch and she had her hands on her chest, and my
brother looks at me, goes, she looks like she's dead. So we
had all these flowers that we got through, all these roses for the anniversary
party, which was going to be the next day. So my brother and
I each get that and I start going in through the French or says no,
no, no, no, you never entered the funeral. You never
go into a wake from the front. You gotta come into the back.
So we go through the back. The two of us are giggling and laughing.
We kneel down. We put flowers on her chest, and she's laying
in there like this and we're kneeling. We're kneeling on the couch. Next
she picks the flowers up and starts beating us. Bullshit, bullshit, And
she got up and started drinking again. This second second wind comes blowing in.
Then this is this is the anniversary, and we work together, and
you'll remember this because I would love fucking love to get this call back.
It was early on cell phone, I'm gonna say early on in cell phone
technology of the kind we have today. I think I had a phone in
ninety seven or ninety six, but they were that gray flip down thing right
this when you broke in the car. Yeah, Now, this is one
where you it was like you could flip it up, but you could get
Facebook on it. And it was the first time I think I was getting
social media on my phone, and I had all my music on there and
all this stuff, and I don't know, I think it was an iPhone.
Anyway, I would always be listening to stuff while I mowed the lawn.
So I remember mowing the lawn and I stopped, and I'm back.
I know exactly where it was. I had built the kids a treehouse,
and there was the pool was back there. And I stopped and I see
that I had missed a call from my grandmother. So I play the voicemail.
It's my grandmother and my aunt, who is only eight years old than
me, fifteen years younger than my mom. They're together, and uh,
well, maybe they're calling again. This is what it was. We were
calling again. So I answer and my grandmother says to me, Hi,
happy birthday, blah blah. She said, did you get our message earlier?
And I said no, and she said, well, don't listen to
it, billy, don't listen to it. Happy birthday, have a great
day, blah blah blah. My aunt gets done Hi, So then I'm
like, oh, I gotta fucking listen to the show. So I listened
to it. It's my grandmother and my aunt and my grandmother doesn't realize that
she didn't get me. She's but it's my voicemail on my phone. Is
she going Happy birthday, Billy? And she pauses and my aunt goes,
it's his voicemail, Ma, and she says, I know, and she
goes, well, then leave him a message. My you stop talking?
Why are you always yelling at me? And then she's They start going at
it, and then at the end was my grandmother goes, why didn't you
leave me alone and let me die? And as they go ahead and die,
and we played this boismail over and over on the air. I remember
used to play it. Oh, yeah, I gotta fi. I wish
I fucking had it. I wonder if because when you went to the other
company, yeah, you asked me if I could take it up. So
I found it, and so I'm wondering if it might still be in my
email that I said somewhere. It would be awesome with the world so great
if it was. Yeah. So those were some That was my grandmother ninety
six, she made it to ninety six. Yeah, she made it to
nineties. You calling your mother later? I was gonna call my mom later
and uh the show, Yeah, yeah, years ago somebody said, always
make sure you call your mother and your birthday. I agree, remember that
day more than anything else, even her birthday. Well really Smith or whatever,
it's it's the I wouldn't be here had she not gone through. And
I was a ten pound baby, so she's gonna remember that, you think.
So it was great. Everybody has up bowing ball every day. That
was a little insanity, for sure. What have you been up to?
I have and getting my breast cancer Part one of a two part event for
the Breast Cancer Coalition of Rochester. I had done a bowling event for ten
years and then COVID hit and people are telling me, wow, I don't
want to be indoors with strangers, like, well, do you golf?
Yeah? Good, I would do golf and bowling. You can't do that.
It go, It doesn't matter. So this will be four years of
golf. It's gonna be at Salmon Creek next Monday. I'll tell you what,
man, I'm looking like a beautiful day. I don't mean to sound
like that guy, because I'm certainly not. But I'm talking to my sister
today. She and her family had gone to the Galapagos Islands and they did
some deep sea diving and all this other ship came back and everybody got COVID,
but my brother in law had it. They thought it was just a
mile cold, and my sister thought it from traveling. She's like, I
don't care enough. And then my sister got hit hard high fever. She
goes, this is the worst I've ever had with this new COVID. So
I'm going outdoor ship made better. Please. We're still on that outdoor say.
I hate to be there, but I don't want to get sick in
anyway. I don't want anybody gets me either, And I know that it
sounds like I don't want to be because people get all uptight over COVID.
It became more of a political thing. I don't feel like getting sick,
but I'm like, you know, there's different events going and I go,
at least it's outside. Yeah, outside, it's better, absolutely. But
I didn't go to a thing about two weeks ago because I do it was
going to be packed, and I'm like, yeah, which can I go
my a pussy? Maybe maybe I am. I don't really know. Well
that's great, I think, so how much money do you know? How
much? In a cumulative way over the four years of doing the golf.
How much you not the golf, but over the twelve years, one hundred
and thirty two thousand, that's pretty good. Year was thirty six thousand.
That's amazing. And we had bad weather. I had a September but it's
only your it's just you. I have helpers there that day, but I
mean it's you all this everything I do the right there. I just stopped
at pasta Villain around Acois. They'd call me, so they gotta you know,
that's a that's a great place. Yeah. Their anniversary party a couple
of years ago, very nice people, awesome, Shanna grateful, looked me
up and just one of many things they're gonna be there. I have I
think eighty nine sponsors this year. Wow, that's all very good. The
words getting out a little by little and uh start making jello shots to night.
We last year and year before we get like six to seven hundred jello
shots. Did they all go the first year? Yes, just fun people,
Okay, falling down drugs, but oh no, I got you don't
leave a jello shot behind. And little by little, it's progressive, they
said when they stormed the beach in Normandy yest behind fellas. We're going in.
We're taking it off. Last year was our first year from both Bloody
Mary Bar, which went over great. Yeah, we're adding mimosas for the
ladies this year. Look at that. And then there might be a guy
that likes mimosas. Yeah, absolutely, I hear they put a filthy thing
in their mouth. But right Sunday, Uh, it's not a stake to
we just we cater it throughout the day. You're eating little by little so
my doubled eggs, which your fat, Yeah, little b lt bites.
And then where I work, Forest Till is catering the rest. We're gonna
have stuff, mushrooms, little stuff, they're the best. I really do
like. Is it stuff with crab meat or sausage? Sausage? Okay,
good? You want sausage in your mouth? Yea, yes, always,
yes, always. My friend little caesadilla sandwiches, those little triangle things,
and then he's got call me the day goes. How about tater tots,
little bigger tater tots, but filled with cheese and bacon. I'm like,
who doesn't like cold tater tot? I mean even if they get a little
cold eater and day that is a word, just a fat guy faun there.
So we got beer Seltzer's jealous shots, food all day. How do
you sign up? You're telling all this that, how do people join?
You gotta call me next year next Oh, it's full, it's full.
Good congrat Well that's awesome, that's awesome. Yeah, we've got two teams
in every hole. Stuff for the part threes, try to kind of spread
it out. And then this year new too is Texas Roadhouse is coming out
on the sixteenth hole. Pay five dollars for a ball. If you get
it on the green with one shot, you get an entree which is twenty
five to thirty five dollars. Nice. How do you go wrong if you
get it in a hole in one? I guess you'll get a your supply
of on trees twice a month. So all right, okay, I was
just there last week. Yeah man, Texas Roadhouse. Yeah, look at
that. That's the hardest place to get into. And Henrietta, I just
posted a bunch of pictures from last year if you look at my Facebook.
All right, a lot of fun. We'll take a moment when we come
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their windshield. Yeah, but there's one in particular that I saw and it
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So there's this, uh, have you guys gone while we're on a break
to look at Rock Gone Mad? No, I actually followed it. I
have not had a chance to look. Okay, so it doesn't matter.
So they put up just all these weird things that are happening in Uh are
those working? Okay? There's they have weird things that are happening in the
Great Rochester area. So last night I'm getting into bed and I had just
started following Rock Gone Mad, and I don't know why. I hit Instagram.
It opens up and the first thing I'm seeing is some kids riding their
bicycles through East Few Mall, but their BMX style bikes and they're riding on
wheelies, like through going around the turns and all this stuff through the mall
at East Few Mall. You got Wow, so funny you say that.
So funny you say that because I'm watching this and I go, let me
go into the because I look down and it has four hundred and sixty seven
comments, which is actually a lot, right for anything. So because you
have to think about this, how many people see stuff during the day and
just move on, just move on. I don't. I don't comment on
anything. I just move on, go on with my day. Four hundred
and sixty seven people stop to make a comment, type something out. I
mean, so one of them said, most of them the first couple ones
I read there go they have them all on the west side. Get over
to grease Aster, you guys belong. So I'm thinking quite nobody using that
one, all right. So as I'm reading this, I go, I
see somebody who uh makes a comment that that the argument is that no one
got hurt. They go, Someone's gonna say no one got hurt with this,
what's the big deal? So I go, I don't want to read
any further than what they're thinking. I'm trying to think this through. What
is the big deal. What's the big deal? These kids did what we
were somebody could have got her. Okay, this time nobody got her.
I'm going if I'm the Wilmot family, I'm not happy they own the malls
and the idea that there is quote unquote lawlessness, and I know that that's
an extreme word, and I go, this is where I know I'm a
little older now, but there it's not what I'm expecting in the mall.
Vince, you have a daughter who she how old is she now? She's
senior senior, okay, but at one point she's a fourteen year old girl
that she and her friends wanted to go to the mall, and you probably
would escort them to the mall, let them go do the thing, but
you'd be in the mall and do you want like guys coming down on their
bicycles, because especially today, we don't know what's gonna happen next. Do
you know what I'm saying? Like when I know what you're saying, because
driving uber, they're in the middle of the road doing wheelies, going towards
cars and right before they hit them left. Okay, Well, what I'm
thinking is what I'm saying is We don't know now in malls and things,
because how many times has some like, all of a sudden, somebody lets
us. You don't know if these kids are thinking to pop off and get
pissed and shoot something. I mean, I know that sounds extreme, but
no, it's not like it's going to be extreme when somebody just shoots them
its and tired of the last. Yeah, they're getting their car gets hit,
their door gets hit, the guys in Amazon gift outside gets stolen.
Yeah, and then somebody's gonna do something and they're gonna it's gonna snap and
they're like, you know what, one less person to piss me off of
the world. So and then they're gonna get an appearance ticket. Yes,
but that's I got to be fair. I thought it was an organized event.
I saw that too. No, I think it was just I thought,
well, which would be a great event for them all to do.
Okay, I thought it was organized. But if it were an organized event,
I'd have to think these kids would have helmets on. And I know
maybe that sounds silly, but but those floors look kind of slick to me,
and those tires looked a little worn, And I'm going I don't know,
you know what I'm saying, Like they looked at those back tires.
So I'm thinking if you were, I would think if it was organized,
there would also be like the BMX Rock Crew or whatever. Don't you think
there were something that would say is don't ride around them. Yes, so
these guys are doing what you see? You did see this? Did you
see on Rock on Matt or somewhere else? Just flowing through my face,
Oh yeah, because I think like Rock on Matt and I don't know who
runs the site is basically just an aggregate, like they look for these kind
of things and they're finding them. I don't know how. So people like,
oh I got some video for you, Well, let me tell you
something. There's some shit going on. I mean there's women tworking in the
streets on this, but it just, dude, I saw like like guys
who were collecting money in the in the middle of the streets and around quite
today, like three or four of them just like they don't even like go
to the corners now, they're just standing right in the double yellow lines.
Yeah, there's been going up for a while all through the city. Yeah.
In the comments section, an argument with the guy the other day.
For what, I was on Ridge Road and uh lake I was. I
forget where I was going three days ago. And first thing I do is
look at the shoes. Guy had either Nikes or timberlands on. He's got
a cigarette, cell phone in the back. I go, why the fuck
don't you get a job? You said this? Yeah, I go,
you're obviously young enough. I just got a jail. I go, really,
what'd you do? Well? I don't want to talk about it.
I'm like, your first of all, you're a liar. You're a young,
able young man, and I was just head enough love what you happen
enough with It's like, okay, see now, hang on a second,
hang on a second. Because my buddy tells me, don't get it,
don't get pissed off and stuff like that. But when you constantly see it,
I understand. I I see what you're saying, more self respect.
Okay, So you're you're taking me where I'm gonna go with this whole conversation,
and that that is exactly what it is. Where's your work at?
Well, it's not, where's your courtesy? A lot of words that aren't
being used anymore. Okay, I think you're onto something and I and I
go, is this we will be called if we sat around and have this
conversation as we are, we will get called because they're on the street.
No, we will be called by me. We will be called by people
grumpy old white men, middle age, privileged white men. But let me
go, let me go back to the mall thing, and let me just
walk you through this. So somebody says the uh they right in there,
Uh, the pranksters. That's kind of what they referred to me. As
they'll say, what's the big deal? Someone said, no one got hurt,
no one got hurt, nothing happened. What's the big deal? And
the person making the comments rightist and says it's a big deal because that that
thinking right there is a pod mindset, and that really resonated with me.
And I had to think of that about that because the excuse to be an
asshole? Right, you're being an asshole. You ride your bike doing wheelies
through the mall, You're being an asshole. The behaviors, you're making people
feel unsafe. And when that happens, we get a rondeicoid mall. Do
you see what I'm saying? All of a sudden, people don't want to
go there. It's not about whether or not I believe that they didn't do
anything and they were just having fun. It's how do people feel about going
now to that mall where this was able to happen? And granted, most
people will probably look at it and go it's nothing, But let it happen
a few more times, and let it happen a few more times. I
thought that the rumors from Arondequois Mall, which was the mall in our areas
when I came here, wasn't it in the nineties. I thought it was.
I worked there when it first opened up, and I knew it was
never gonna last. Why because it's double decker, you're gonna get I saw
I want to Staten Island and they've got I mean, one hundred times more
people, right, Yester, isn't it big? You're over Santuary with malls.
You had Long Ridge and Grease Ridge right next to each other, marketplace
AROUNDI Quoit and then us which was nothing at the time, Right, that
finally marketplace developed to me so beautiful. Yes, that's the only one.
People are Shops are moving out of Grease Ridge every other day. There's no
more movie theater, U Marketplace mall is not going to be hospital, right,
Julianna's right, it's becoming yer fights every other week. Okay, just
finally it was the fights at Ironiquoit. And then there were these rumors and
tell me you worked there, and I don't know, but I only heard
these rumors. And I never knew anybody that this happened to, or knew
somebody who said my buddy or my mom's core. I don't know anybody.
But people would hide under your car at Aroniquoit Mall and then they would slash
your achilles tendon? Can remember this? Now? Do you remember the rumor?
Urban legends? It was like, but I don't ever remember one person.
I don't remember a story on the news. I don't remember anything that
went viral before viral that was just like stomach pump because he sucked too much
cock, which I go, one of these stories go viral? You know
what I mean? How did the gerbil up? What's this gears ass?
How did that get around? Everybody knew that story? Uh, yes,
you know, but the same thing. And my only thing was was that
kind of mindset that mentality gets people go, I don't want to go there.
I don't want to deal with that. I don't even want to chance
it. I don't want to chance it. So when you see this,
it is a poverty mindset of well, what's the big deal. Well,
the big deal is this is where people come to shop, feel safe,
spend their Money's what keeps our economy going. The taxes are a little lower
in Ontario County. People like going there. It's a little fancier. They
had nicer stores, places to eat. And I will tell you, man,
I don't know this for a fact, but I've heard different things because
I do the boxing stuff about something some space that was going to be rented
by a franchise, franchised place. Uh, and I think it was going
to be either there or across it. But just trying to find and hold
tenants today is nearly impossible. Yeah, we're watching bed Bath and begond a
fucking peer. You know what I'm saying, You have to go No,
I don't have to go anywhere. And COVID has made it where everything you
don't have to leave your house for shit. Man, you got movies,
you can you can live. I mean one thing. That's one reason movie
theater has gone down because people couldn't take vacations. They had all that money
saved up going to cruise, Disney cruise, or go to the interactually with
kids. Now, well we can't go with COVID. Okay, what are
we gonna do. Let's build a home entertainment center. Right, they get
the chairs, the big screen TV, everything, so you don't have to
go to the movie theater and have kids running over with a bicycle or whatever.
You know, somebody talking in the movie theater or baby Crown exactly,
you don't have to put it with any of the bullshit. We don't have
to deal with any other team. I love still going to movie theater doing
next week? You are what are you gonna see? Well? I rubbed
one after that three times in the driving myself, very nice. I'm not
allowed back in anyways. Uh, barby girl. No, my girlfriend want
to have sex in the driving last night? What happened? It took me
three hours to find out what car she was in. Hey, Uh,
my nephew wants to see Blue Beetle, which is a DC character. Late.
I have no idea I've seen it thence you know that one? Yeah,
I saw you nod your head do you know Blue Beetle. I heard
it was Marvel. I don't know about it, but yeah, yeah,
nope, yeah, I don't know. That's one of the later characters to
be developed in a in a comic book series. Is it out? Yeah,
it's out. He was wanted to see that. He wanted to see
the Meg two. I was gonna see Oppenheimer, except that it's three hours.
Yeah, he wants to do that for piles Se for three hours.
Girl said, can you give me a half hour of sex? I go
if that includes me driving to your house and four play, sure, Well
let's go see op And Well you saw Peaky Blinders, right, I did
not. This is so fantastic. Yeah, maybe the best show ever.
I remember you saying that, and I still didn't watch it. I that's
fucking Vince. I'm like, let's go. Yeah, I go. But
back to this, to what you're saying. So when we start letting these
things get out like this kind of behavior, I think yesterday in the city
of Rochester, we had a drive by shooting at one o'clock in the afternoon
on seventy two St. Paul Street. That is a gang that's that,
that's a gang killing you. We know that an officer who was an RPD
uh missurka Witz officer of missourka Witz is dead because they some gang hired a
guy out of Boston who was in the same gang. That branch came down
and he was there to do a hit on Somebody saw these cops and took
advantage of a moment and killed two or killed one undercover cop and I think
either shot at or injured the other one. Well, I don't want to
misspeak. No accountability and there's no okay that are getting arrested. Let go
arrested again. They're not calling that stuff gang in the city of Rochester.
Why because we want people to keep going to the City of Rochester. And
I give a they just they don't say that. They don't tell you it's
and I'm telling there's no fucking way it's not. But you can't say that
because there are businesses and people and things that thrive. And I have said
for years, as the city goes, so go the suburbs. That's gonna
it's gonna leak out in no but I'm just saying, as the city goes,
and so you want that to be a vibrant economic center, we've been
they've been trying to give tax breaks and bring businesses down. The small enough
city we should be able to absolutely, Yeah, well we're not. We
can't because the cops, well my opinion, their hands, they're handrotide.
I agree what they can my governor, and people get pissed off. And
I've heard that, Well, the cops should just do that they have to.
They can only do the letter of the law, which is told by
the governor. Well, let me take you back to your statement earlier,
and this is just follow me on this where you said there was a young
man and you look down and you saw his shoes, and you're like,
why don't you get a job, And you got frustrated and you roll down
your window and you started yelling at the kid like an old man. I
wasn't yelling like I'm like, come on. But my thing is, there
is something to be said about having pride. And there's a word that you
hear a lot, especially with young kids. Maybe you've heard it with your
nephew. I'm sure, Vince, you heard it when your kids were little.
I certainly heard it. Self esteem. We gotta get self and steam.
You know where self esteem comes from? It comes from winning, It
comes from doing something. It comes from feeling good when people dress up,
when people put on clothes and go out. I mean, watch how people
behave differently. Why do you think I don't know this for a fact,
but I would say private schools for the most part, I think uniforms were
to try to make everybody equal. We couldn't see who had money and who
didn't. It didn't matter. We were all equal. But at McQuaid,
where my son went, it was all you needed was a blazer, shirt
and a tie, so you could have anything as long as that, khakis
and your shoes. But I swear to God, when you put that on,
you behave better. There's something about clothes and feeling a little more pride
in yourself and what you're doing, that behaving. Where do you wear the
suits and tights? Well, you were used to wear at the church.
Church you go and you look at the nineteen thirties, the ballgames. You
would see it at whatever field it is today in downtown Rochester, when you
went out, when you went out, you you dressed up right. And
it's a wedding, you dress up. You better behave, yes, better
behave Okay, okay, dad, and it's it's a it's just a thing.
And I'm exactly nobody's selling these kids when you when you say does there's
no dissipated, unfortunate support. It's true. That part is true. And
I remember Adam McFadden saying that he was very worried about the city of Rochester
because the grandparents were raising the kids and they were going to die, they
were getting too old. And here we are almost twenty years after he made
that statement, or fifteen years after he said that. And you most important
hierarchy. I know he wasn't the greatest guy to be quoting important job in
America in the world, being a parent. So I just think that there's
something about having a little bit of pride, and when you do absolute you
start to feel better. Self esteem, self respect, Yes, work on
yourself. Don't worry about somebody else. You got it. Respect, you
got it. You look at the mirror and you're happy with you. Yes,
the most important thing. I don't care if you respect me. Just
don't disrespect me. I mean, you know me, but you don't know
every aspect of my my world and what I do outside. I mean,
I've heard some stories I know, I want to check those rumors. You
know, I'll tell you afterwards. I don't want to say into a microphone,
but not me, my god. I mean I was in that parade
to gram. I wasn't with those guys, but I was selling cotton candy.
Push come to shot. Look at me over like a four leave?
How much is it cotton canny? Well, I haven't got changed for a
hundred right now, but Grandma's watching. I think to your point that there
is something about so. I think that you know, there are people today
that you can go on the internet, and I think Danny might be familiar
with this guy, Vince maybe two. I'm not sure if you've heard of
him. His name is Gary v. Gary v Is parents were immigrants from
Russia. He came over here his dad had a liquor store. He did
terribly in school, then went on to college for a little while, and
then started working at his dad's liquor store and took it into a multimillion dollar
business. Started the Wine Library online, started doing all this marketing stuff,
and now has his own marketing company and a bunch of other companies. Early
investor in Twitter and Facebook. The kids a multi multimillionaire, and his goal
is to own the Jets some day own the Jets. Whether or not he
will, I mean he's but he's always you know. However, what he'll
say is there's no excuse to be broke nowadays. Get up and hustle.
And my reverse thing about that would be if you get up and do something,
you just feel better about you. And his thing is go on Craigslist,
look under the free section, go pick up somebody's coffee table, wipe
it off, and sell it for ten dollars. Now you have ten dollars.
You didn't have. Easier said than done. I understand that completely,
but my only point would be take from that is when you do something,
it just makes you feel better. That's why I've always said I liked working
with my hands. Not great at it, but I liked it because when
we did radio self account, you feel accomplished. Well, it was something
like at the end of the day. Here's the thing with a podcast,
there is something tangible. It's always there, it's always up. When you
did radio, it was off in the ethers. There was nothing, especially
early on when they didn't even re rebroadcast or podcast your stuff, so you
had nothing tangible, and you didn't find out how you did that day for
three more fucking months because the ratings were that way. So then they come
out and tell you, hey, you did greater or you did shitty,
but it wasn't exactly what you were doing that we or that day. But
if I hung a door in my house or a paint in a wall,
I could step back and go, I did that, and there was some
real satisfaction in that. And that's what I think we're missing. And I
think we live too much on this a lot of times, and we see
what other people are doing and we're not doing it. But this can also
be a great motivator for you to hustle and do some stuff. I'll tell
you, man. I mean, look, I didn't have anything, and
we have this, and I'm not saying it's the greatest thing in the world.
But I'm not at my dining room table where I started, right,
you know what I mean. I'm not there, and there is shit,
and I am hustling and I love it. And you're not doing wheelies at
East and I'm not. But I know it sounds like old guys as you've
been saying that, but I do think that there is a chronicle for every
excuse I hear, I can give the somebody a positive You know, well,
I don't have this. I don't have a phone. I don't I
don't have a computer. I don't have you know you should do you can
go to the legs right there. Yeah, so there's always a way.
I'll tell you why to work. You people that want to work with in
a way to work. I think this too, get better. I believe
this. I have believed this, not better, but all I have believed
that if you truly show a little effort you want to do something, this
is really what you want to do, Someone's going to meet you halfway.
Someone will meet you halfway. I really I believe that. And I think,
like, I don't know if you want to, and I always believe
if you want to, you will. If you really want to do something,
you're gonna do it. But but that's it. The BMX thing actually
is a great being the pr guy at the table, wouldn't it be great
for ease for you to invite those kids back? It really wasn't organized and
flip it. Put helmets on them, get some sponsors, flip some good
sneakers, and say let's make this out there for everybody, the plugs out
there and rich is gonna come in Thursday night. And and you're right,
I mean, Vinny, that is absolutely a great thing, and it would
be great to even do as a pr thing, because I do think when
you see this, it looks like, you know, punk ass kids,
kids riding around creating havoc. And they didn't do anything, they didn't rob
anyone, they didn't steal anything. But it's what's the perception. And we
could say, you could say, well, that's the suburban mindset. Doesn't
matter. It doesn't matter, yeah, because everyone's like it doesn't matter kids,
but let's bring them back in right, Well, okay, fuck those
kids. But my thing is also fuck I'm going I'm not going there because
what's gonna happen next time? And I'm too scared and I hate seeing people
live in fear. But let that spread throughout a community. I mean,
I watched one of the greatest, not greatest things, but something that happened.
And you'll remember this too. There was a guy some guys came up
I think from New York City too, for a drug deal in Greece or
a drug deal non bad, and they were coming up to either settle a
score or do something, and they picked up I think a father and a
daughter, and they realized they had the wrong people, but now the police
were onto them, so they pick them up like somewhere in Gates and drop
them off in Grease or vice versa. And then there's a high speed chase
down four ninety. They get off at the Bushmail's Basin exit and they come
racing up East Street. Because I was out jogging and they come blowing up
East Street in the town of Pittsford, I mean doug like going one hundred
and ten. And then all of a sudden, it's like the game Frogger.
You see more Monroe County Sheriffs. They're all over the place, They're
everywhere. Well, these guys ditched their car. One guy there was a
couple raised their family. They were very close to Park Road school. The
lady, I literally this sounds so trite, but just picture nice little Pittsford
house. She's baking a pine guy walking one of the guys, black guy
from New York City, walks in, just walks into the open back door,
and she like freaks out. And I think after that they sold their
house and moved. But that's I'm just saying, like something that traumatic someone
walking into your house. I don't care what aller they are. If you're
not expecting it, it's it could be a scary thing. It could be
a scary thing, especially if you don't know. Now. So that happened,
But then one of the guys, the gym teacher, had propped the
door open. It was like a May I think of May June, early
June day. He had propped the door open at the gym and one of
the guys walked in there and he turned around. He's got kids. He
goes, can I help you? He said, yeah, can you get
me a taxi? I needed to get out of here. So they walk
him to the front office. And now, I mean, Doug, it's
the swat teams there. They've got the school in lockdown words spreading throughout the
neighborhood. Everybody's going crazy. They have swat guys up in trees. My
son, who's now twenty one in in college, was in second grade.
Because I saw his teacher that night when I went to get pizza and she
cried on my shoulder. She said to me it was so scary. She
looked outside and saw the guns pointed, and so she just closed the blonde.
It's got the children on the floor, turned out like that's an experienced
teacher, and read to the kids. Alarms going off, that was a
lockdown. Meanwhile, I'm in my house and I'm going, all right,
I'm sure you know I'm not gonna do anything. My wife's going, we
gotta get up there. I go, I'm not going up there. It's
like, no, we gotta you gotta get up there? What do we
gotta go for? What? And then the neighbor lady and say, oh
yeah. So all of a sudden, it's like these all these women are
now they're Martian out there. I mean, you're fucking cholesterol. They're the
pros. Stay the fuck home, that right, But it's your child there,
and God knows whatever's gonna happen. Yeah, And how the fuck am
I? Well? What am I gonna do? If there's a gunshot,
I'm gonna go out, whoa, whoa my kids in there, my precious
Yes, I understand, I'm not gonna do anything. So that was always
my mind. But to watch that spread the fear, A couple sold their
home I'm going that. That's all it takes is someone to be scared of
going someplace. And then I tell four or five other people, and it
four or five of other people, and now we've got a gerbil up the
ass of of Eastern Mall. Do you know what I'm saying? And no
one wants to go there? Richard Gear And that's just one percent of what
you're hearing, yea Rochester. Yeah, unfortunately, yes, unfortunately, all
right, people, men, time over. It's sad. It is terrible,
it is it is. Uh, we'll take a moment. You like
to gamble. I love the gamble, do you I joined Gambles anonymous.
They gave me three to one. I don't make it. You got I
was in the track the other day opening gun. They shot my horse when
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I go to Orangeyes, I catch everything. It's terrible. One golfer
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I say this is one of the greatest guitar riffs and can roll It's
start Knopfler when he gets in there. I think he's one of the best
guitar players that he isn't talking about. Very underrated, very underrated guitar player.
Another one is Lindsey Buckingham. Nobody talks about Lindsey bucking This fantastic A
man's bill in Dixie. Ugly motherfucker, but playing to develop a talent to
make up for player. Somebody sent me today Happy Birthday. Within his happy
birth is like some good like almost looks like the guy Dug saw on the
corner and he goes happy birthday, Happy birthday. Motherfucker coming in. But
there's a riff in here that I absolutely love in the songs get on the
place, And I guess this song was inspired that he was in some pub
in England and there was a band that was playing and no one's paying attention.
They're just all drinking all this and they were just kind of off in
the corner and Sultan's a swing so tire strange, right, Yeah. He
had a great solo career too for a few years. Mark Noffler, do
you know, I don't even know that. I wouldn't have known that well
doing what playing on his own Yeah, yeah, like albums and stuff.
I don't know any really because I thought he was a great guitar player.
I didn't mind his voice, and he wasn't Genesis and he you know,
Phil Collins. I didn't mind, but it was what's his name? He
broke off Mike and the mechanics. No fucking that was awful. No,
that was power station and he might have been part of power Station. I
was okay with power Station. What about the firm? I didn't mind the
firm so much. I'm radio. I think I wound up doing an interview
with the firm. Naylor having a new album coming out thirty five years later
and they finally got their ship together and go, hey man, we should
go back out. I always go, why, what? What do you
think is gonna happen? I mean I remember talking to Blue Oyster Cult and
they go, our fans were clamoring, who you're fan? Who is this
person? And what the fuck? People? Turning Stone? That just roll
in for my money tonight. You were at turning Stone a few years ago.
Yeah, me and my buddy Mark, And he's got a host.
When you gamble enough, you get a host, and if you want tickets
or something, you you text or call your host and see what they can
do. Yeah. So, man, boy, that there is the greatest
sucker move ever. Right. Well, I say it this way because I
bet your friend puts out. But believe me, they're making the money back.
So he's put laying out a lot of money and then probably got guys
got the pockets. But how great would it be to say, let me
check with my hosts, I'll get his tickets. Let me check my host
That's exactly what happened. Of course, you look at like a fucking million
Let me ask my coat. He texts when he comes, he goes,
here's three tickets, six great tickets, six shocked and were a seat available?
Yeah? I mean they were giving them all away, but it's seat
stadium where the vine. Yeah, yeah, I love it. I went
I saw Tyson do a show. Yes, it was great, and I
think that's a great run. You gonna get him in the puncave because they
give me coming in your birthday and you know, woman, but give me
the knockout. We did an interview with him and we're talking and all of
a sudden he gets a little like I say something and he gets uncomfortable,
and then I keep talking and then he's like yeah, oh yeah yeah,
and then uh, at the time I was with the Tulio and he brings
up when he fought over in Japan, and I think it was Buster Dutch.
I knocked out in the to and I said, how is that for?
You goes, it was all right because they took all the women off
my floor. They put me up on the top floor. They gave me
get the ugly maids. But I fucked them too. I start laughing,
and he goes, hey, I really like you guys. You gotta come
to my show and meet me afterwards. And I'm going, yeah, right,
okay. So we do the interview. He loosens up. He's talking
about fucking shit I've never heard Mike Tyson talk about. I can't believe that
I'm having a conversation on the phone. He's on the phone with Mike Tyson
and he's admitting he's telling you everything. Yeah, because I think something came
up like, oh, Mike, you know you paid your debt to society
and all that. You know, you do the things to have with the
kid to doing. But it basically said I fucking raped it. I don't
know. I've been like I remember sitting there, I remember looking at jagoing,
oh my god. And then he says again at the end, I
really enjoy talking to you guys. I want you to come to my show.
I want to meet you guys. So we go aheah, it'll be
fantastic, great, great, great. I'm thinking, no fucking way.
I get a call later that afternoon. Hell, hey, Delago called,
they want your information stuff. Mike Tyson wants to meet you. I go,
you got it, fucking shit. Did you meet him? Yeah?
I got a picture. I remember the picture. Yeah, I got a
picture, me and Tyson and we go back there and he goes, hi,
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But like he's I don't know,
I don't know what Mike Tyson story is. He the man has hands there
like they're huge, and he's not that tall. But if you go back
and watch those fights, like he had such a he was so quick,
soul, so powerful. And the one shot that I think that most people
when you're watching boxing, you don't pay attention to, and you really can't
see sometimes even from the camera angles is the under to the ribs, right.
I mean there was a great fight recently between two guys and all of
a sudden, you see one guy and from the back, and what you're
not seeing is like this hook and it's right to the I mean it's bam,
right, to the ribs real quick, and the other guy comes back
and he hits him like he's swings at the face, swings again at the
shoulder, and then drops to a knee. And it was because the air
had just now left his body. It was just there like you could see
it. And then they show you in slow motion and a different angle,
and he caught him right in the ribs. You get hit that hard and
the air leaves your body and by that point the guy's like, fucking I
can't and do it right. And Mike was great at that, and he
was so hard to hit because he's shorter than a lot of up bringing in
well, that's an understatement. I watched he didn't have enough right tough on
the streets, and customer's sister took care of him, and then when she
died, he went back to being, you know, well while set up
adopting him, yeah, to keep him out of trouble because he saw He's
like, this guy's gonna kick the shit out everybody. I knew you want
him in my would I know, I know he did, but I'm going,
how do you know, Like you're looking at this like that's why you
have me on your show because you know I'm funny, because you're like,
this guy is a fucking future. I gotta get him out of mic before
anybody else. No friends, Dan I have, I'm not. I will
not deny that. I will not deny that as much as you you're you're
being a little bit of a smartass cockey dick, and I appreciate that.
No, I'm just stupid. But you know that is absolutely true. I
told you off, Mike. I think you're hilarious. I think that I
didn't introduce him like a stripper, I would be out there. There's a
guy that delivers Chinese. I always go that looks like looks like your brother.
He came in here and he goes, he's the one who said to
me. He goes, he was at the Funniest Person in Rochester this year,
and he came in and the yes, he pops his head in.
One day, I'm in here by myself. He opens the door, he
goes, Hey, what's going on? Said great job last night. I
was in that Funniest Person in Rochester the contest a couple of years ago.
I go, oh, really, He goes, fix the all things fixed?
And I couldn't say anything. He was gone, and I said,
and I even told the story of that night I go. I know for
a fact it is not fixed because I sit in the back. I watched
them count, and I know who they think was good, and they'll go,
we can't. The votes are this because it's partly your That's why they
have you vote three comics, and then it goes by the judge's score as
well, because it does really balance it out, but not always does the
funniest person. And that's why I would say to anybody entering a contest like
that, even have to look at like things like American Idol. How many
people didn't even get past whatever audition an American Idol and became a star.
I'm going to be able to name none of them might at this moment.
This would be great if I could come with like five right now, but
I can't. But there are people that that have become names. I think
is Lana del Rey, Possibly was she, but no, Carrie Underwood,
well, Carrie Underwood want it. What I'm saying is didn't even get past
Daughtry became a name though on that show. What I'm saying is somebody who
didn't even like really get past the initial lawn, and there's been a few
of those who've gone on and kind of carved out their own path. And
that's what I would say to anybody. If you want to, it'll happen.
And every experience you're going to learn something from, you should try.
Oh you will, you just but you will, right, you will?
You learn what works what doesn't. Yeah, it's all mindset. Yeah.
I was doing all the work for him. It's just just getting him on
a platform, getting something to see him. You got it exactly exactly.
I mean Ruben started one one year, but the big star that came out
was Clayaking. Yeah, you know that to be what a mayor or something,
or he was some senator. He did hold for a moment a political
office in North Carolina. Just for a moment. All right. So I
did say betting on golf, Are you fading on me? Are you right?
No? I don't want to hurt you. My adrenalinet gets going and
I yawn, I have nothing else to do. It's gotta it's gotta divert
somewhere. The energy's gotta go somewhere. You can you can punch finish you're
you're doing Mike Tyson impersonations was that was gold. I don't know if there
are two better impersonations anywhere. I don't eat alphabet food because they can't spell
anything. He's no, I'm not Annie. They were fantastic. Really agree
to disagree because I was gonna throw one into I'm like, no, no,
I did there? All right? So John Ram is out saying that
apparently somebody got drunk at the BMW Championship. Well, this is about gambling.
They didn't get in the BMW afterward there, okay, So, uh,
I think Max Homa at the time was tied for fourth. It was
towards the end of his third round of play. Uh As he went to
put a spectator yelled pull it and hopes of forcing him to miss and instead,
and the fan ended up getting ejected and all this stuff. And uh,
I think like his caddie jawed at him, and Max went over and
jawed at this guy. And by the way, he made the putt.
But John Ram was asked about it later and he said, basically that happens
Willy more often than you guys, may hear, he goes. I mean,
it's very very present in golf. Spectators are very close now, look,
we hear. I mean, you go to a football game, and
I don't know if they can actually hear well in the field. Sometimes I
think they can, but even baseball that there's got to be one piercing voice
that gets through to you. It becomes part of the game. But golf,
you're right there, and that's why they have this and the quiet and
all this stuff. And he said, he goes, Look I he goes.
Even if they're not directly talking to you, they're close enough to where
if they say to their buddy, I bet you ten bucks, he's gonna
miss it. You hear it. And how can that not get in your
head, even if you're a pro. Come on, No, you're so
what he's focusing on the on the ball? Yes, I mean there's so
many people. You're talking, you're caddy, you're looking up, and unless
it catches you in your ear, if you then you know how they get
very quiet at the punt. Yeah, So then when somebody says something,
so he goes. You don't want it to get out of hand. It's
very, very very easy in golf. If you want to affect somebody,
you're so close you can yell at the wrong time. I don't know that
it would really upset the apple cart of betting. But you can bet on
everything now in New York State. I mean, it's it's fantastic. It's
a hell of a lot of fun, even if you're just doing five to
three dollars or whatever bets. Right. Yeah, I made a lot of
money in the PGA champ Did you really? I made like three hundred bucks,
So you're kidding? No, who did you? I had no idea.
I just bet. I bet like long shots, and I bet some
like like. I didn't bet people necessarily to I bet if you to win,
right, and I stacked you know my adds again, Okay, this
one looks great, I'll bet this X amount of dollars in this guy X
amount of this and X amount of this. And then as the tournament went
on, there were other bets that you could make throughout. Once you start
to figure out, all right, who's winning, who's going to be close
at the end, and then you go from there. Is it more fun
to have a cap Gilmore gallery than it is? Yes? Right, let's
think about if you have a happy Gilmore gallery. Let's get it back going.
Now, you don't have to worry about yelling boba booie well or somebody
like yelling like mess or something like that. I know, but there is
something with it because it creates a white noise in your head. Now you
have a background night, I can just focus on golf in general. Is
white noise understand? I mean, I think it's distracted when the dude is
like Jim Nance is going, Jim Nance back here at seventeen, John Ron's
about to approach. It's he's holding his left leg. I don't know if
the outcome or not, but I mean that's always been the concern all the
time. I mean we've had an NBA was an NBA or nc double a
ref. Yeah, I think there's even a I know his name to that.
He was taking bribes to make calls to affect the outcome of a game.
So another word. Yeah, he would call more fouls to get more
free throws to get the over. Yeah. And his family was evolved,
like they said you better do this. They were getting Oh, I don't
know. I didn't watch the Netflix. I know sixty Minutes did something,
and I think Netflix did as well. Jim Donaghee was the guy's name,
that's right, Tim Donaghee. Yeah, so why is this NBA game going
four hours? It was when it was on sixty minutes. Pauli who we
called about the referee the kids, He said, he watched that and the
referees get together, Okay, let's have a good game, and we gotta
watch out for number twenty three and uh, number twenty four, and he
goes, it's the same way in high school. You know, this coach
is going to be an asshole, and this one's gonna want to watch the
clock, and you gotta watch out for you know, their defense kind of
takes shots. So it's it's the same level that you're used to a certain
team and a certain player, and if you know the players going to give
you a problems, it's easier to call a penalty on him and to get
him the other person a free throw. So that's what partly what I haven't
watched in a long time. But that's kind of way kind of what happened.
Yeah, but I also think some of that, Yes, I mean,
the human nature does play into these things. Right, there is some
I will call a human error, but right, you know, our human
bias and slightly and when you're popular, I mean out of Georgian's career if
he got touched, oh l at even interference during Team of Us, say
the Dream Team, Jordans, Magic and Larry Bird took a picture together and
Magic looks, Hilary goes, don't touch him. You'll get called through foul.
All right, we'll take a moment. Someone we used to work with,
Vince is going away. Oh, not for long, but going away.
And it's well, it's one of these things where I don't know if
anybody else has had situations where somebody they knew was accused and found guilty of
something heinous. And when you go, I never would have expected. And
I know that sounds trite, and everybody says it every time a neighbor comes
out, like when something horrible go. Oh, they were just quiet and
kept to themselves, great neighbor, kept a nice yard. The kids were
great like and then all of a sudden, like he kills his wife and
ties his kids up in the basement and they don't see him for three days
and he's run off to Mexico. That's the kind of thing. Who it
is. He's so good those naked and he played for the Bills. He
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you were born? I thought this was seventy three. I was seventy one.
Do you know who you were share a birthday with? Did you ever
looked at online? I did, yes, and there I would think it
being in radio for as long as Yeah, I did, and I couldn't
tell one person Bill Parcels, Bill Parcels, Yes, I do remember Bill
Parcels. The General there, Max MacArthur, No MacArthur, omar Braley,
No, Ali you had sports cough, Yeah, General Swarts nude James Cordon,
I share a birthday with him. Ty Burrell, the dad from Yeah
ye share a birthday with him. I'm trying to think who else you guys
gotta be about the same age, right, he's a little bit older.
He's like fifty six, fifty two. Oh, Jia de Laurentis. I
don't know her. She's the hot chick Tommy. When we did the break
Room, we used to go crazy on she did like she had a food
show, didn't she, Vinny, She was like CNN or something, what
did she have a food show? No work? Yeah, she's still in
the game. She's fifty three. Yeah, yeah, it's like a fine
wine. Vinnie. Remember every day at nine o'clock he turned on Kelly and
Regis or Kelly and the late the late Cindy Williams who died the other way.
And that was one of my favorite Opie and Anthony bits when they did
has been corners and we found out on this podcast because everybody thought that was
so fucking mean. They did an interview and they pretended they didn't know who
she was, and they kept calling her a has been and she got really
pissed off and yelled at them. So on purpose for ratings. Yes,
oh, Anthony, Opie and Anthony. So then I'm talking to Opie on
this podcast. They called him one day and he goes, because it was
the anniversary of that and people were tweeting about it. I said, oh,
and so we talked and he said, you know why I did that?
He said, she was on who was the Andy Kaufman had a show
and he did has Been Corner and he brought somebody out and Cindy was there
and he did exactly that to somebody, and Cindy laughed through the whole thing,
right in this poor guy's face. So here we had the opportunity to
do it back to her because but nobody really knew that that's what we were
doing. And so we got labeled shock jocks, assholes, all this shit
immediately, because that was fine. But I thought that was Yeah, that
was pretty good. So Skevon. Skevon was a woman that you and I
Vince had worked with. Yeah, she worked in what they called traffic and
radio, which is not telling you what's happening on the nineties four, three,
and five. It was scheduling the commercials and she was great at it.
And Skevon looked like she stepped out of a magazine every day. The
woman's face was perfect hair perfect, clothes were immaculate. I mean we talked
about having some pride in the way you look, Doug. This woman looked
like a million bucks every day. Every day. I used to talk boxing
with her. She was a fan off. I recall of Marvelous Marveln Hagler,
who had come to Bill's training camp with his son once because he was
trying to help his son become a fighter. And I always loved him because
he was that skinny guy and he showed you how powerful your legs could be
like he could. I mean when he just twisted and twisted, you know,
all that hip motion which is so important. And so she and I
would talk about all this stuff. You went to her retirement party when she
retired from radio A just a beautiful woman, model employee, model citizen.
Yeah. Right. So then one day we find out that Stevan's husband is
found dead in the driveway and they don't know what happened. And then it's
and then it's like Skaze gets arrested, and then it was he was rough
on her up and she had enough and she went out and shot him.
And I don't know where that's if that story held water or not. I
think he was clean in the car out did she went out? It was
early morning, everyone was like leaving for work. Yeah, but it was
like a yeah, and she was okay, I don't know when it was,
I don't know. So she went out and she did. I think
she admitted, but tried to make it look like it was self defense from
what I'm remembering in the early stories. Would that be right? It sounds
right? Yeah, yeah, I think that was people were they were just
waking up and I heard a scuffle and it was six thirty whatever it was,
and so yeah, So then a lot of people who had worked where
they were trying to figure out, well, how the hell because everybody has
we all of us, it's like it's becomes a joke. Yeah. Was
this a couple of years ago? Within a yeah, within a couple yes,
was it okay? And I had an uber writer and lady goes,
can you believe this shit? Right there? She shot her husband like okay,
yeah, this is the woman. Yeah, I mean, just an
absolutely wonderful woman. And when I say you would never expect, you would
never expect. Scp on was not the lay. We used to always go
skate on. So I used to do that. I used to try to
sneak up and make her jump in her chair and I but she always of
a good cheer and asked about your kids and you know what I mean,
just used everybody's favorite. Yeah, And I used to Actually I had no
purpose to go into traffic for anything, right, I didn't go. I
used to go in there and just chat with her about boxing and stuff.
So then we find out that her husband's dead. Then there was a something
that came out her. I believe she only had one child and her son,
and he had died a few months earlier, like June of that year.
Whenever this happened. And supposedly that may have had a name. I
have no idea. So all of this goes on, she winds up in
jail. There's fundraisers to try to get her out. I didn't go.
I didn't know what to even do. I was like, what do you
do here? Like, I mean, if you killed your husband, what
do you do? Yeah? You know what. I saw her mug shot
after working with her for four and a half years, and didn't I just
glossed over. So why do people we worked with who go? Man?
I want to see this mug shot because I've never seen her without all her
makeup lot and everything. Yeah, the mug shots up. Can somebody pull
it? Can you pull it up on your phone? Like every uh ten,
NBC, thirteen, WHAM, Channel eight, they all had it.
I think thirteen probably did the most in depth coverage along with eight. So
they had all this stuff. But she was married for forty years to her
husband, and then whatever happened happened. Yeah, just finally snapped. I
get on, that's it. Well, so now I'm going, now here's
here's my shitty thing. I remember looking at this in the beginning and I
go, well, her husband forty years and he would come to Christmas parties,
but he was always very quiet. I think I got introduced to him.
I never really I never ever really talked to the guy, but I
remember him being somewhat quiet. I think he even came to get her once
because maybe they were in car trouble and so he was picking her up after
work. But I remember seeing the picture they put up. It was them
together, and this is terrible. This is a very very bad thing I'm
about to say. But he looked like Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson's dad.
He had that thin mustache and the hat, and I always go Joe Jackson.
Joe Jackson looked like the evil character in every kid's cartoon. There was
you know what I mean, And we all knew what Joe Jackson was accused
of, like beating those kids. I mean, you know, like they
all. The joke that I had heard other comedians do is, well,
you don't get Michael Jackson, Joe Jackson, you know what I'm saying,
which is a terrible thing, but I go, you can't look like that.
So if you told me this guy rough scave on up, I'm Michael,
Yeah, I can see it. It's guilty, guilty. He looks
like Joe Jackson. Joe did the same thing. He had that, which
I go is it is a terrible thing. But you know, aging black
men shouldn't get the thin pencils and thin mustache. Just don't do it and
put the hat on. I'm just saying, I don't know, but she
was the person that you would never think would have this, so something you
have to think would go by. So I know she was up second degree
murder that I believe carries this is a wide range. But when I looked
it up, fifteen to forty years in prison. Skepon is sixty eight or
sixty nine. Her husband was seventy two. That's a long time, and
it's you know, anytime I think in prison would be a long time for
someone like Skeveon, who just seems like such a lovely, sweet soul.
But maybe it seems that maybe a harder side we didn't know about. So
I think they couldn't come to an agreement the jury on that. They deliberated
for three days on this, and she has been found guilty of criminally negligent
homicide, which is one and a third to four years from what I looked
up, and I hope I have that correct. I don't know. This
sentencing date has not been determined yet and so nobody really knows. But I'm
like, man, I it's it's like, of all the people we worked
with in radio, which has nothing but criminals, thieves and scumbags, last
person very much. No, but seriously, I mean you were talking about
the scummiest of the s some of them, some of them have been involved,
yeah, but none Like, out of all the people, you would
never think that she was the one that would be capable of this and clearly
she was, because I think they even went through the house and I don't
know what she was saying, and then they found the gun. But it
was like an old school gun and like an older rifle that you have to
be pretty clothes to do it, which is heinous, you know, because
I always go, you know, if somebody's shot, if somebody gets mad
and they shoot a gun, they're frustrating, the pull it out and shoot
it, and they shoot it and the person is a good twenty five yards
away and they clip them. I don't find that as bad as a stabbing.
When you're right there, I feel like there's so much more emotion and
there's so much more anger, and it's right, you're right there. It's
like, yeah, fuck you, and I keep yeah, it's funny you
bring that up. So when I was like fifteen sixteen years old, my
buddy Louie's grandfather had bill season tickets. Not only did have season tickets,
but he also had a season passed to park at somebody's house. So we'd
park at the house. I'd go to one or two games a year with
him. We park at their house, right, and this woman collected the
money. Is she honed the house, right, all right. So the
following year, I go, hey, so we're gonna park at so and
so's house. Oh no, you didn't hear about that. I go,
No, she stabbed her husband's sixty seven times. She's in jail sixty seven
he oh, he died. Okay, Yeah, I think so. Really
yeah, Sprinkler right, she stre thirty two a journey. But I was
like, holy cow, like you really gotta like, you know, we
parked at this woman's house. Yeah, but can you think of anybody in
your life like Scavan that you would never expect this to have happened, that
that then is either accused of or worse, found guilty of. No,
I think she's the only one actually something that heinous. And I saw her
even after I stopped working in radio, and she would always say hi,
and she was always pleasant, and we reminisced it was it's unbelievable that that
was hers. Yeah, right, that's the one. I found out that
I worked with a guy at Wham Okay, and he was an executive producer
for news over Channel eight. He eventually got fired about harm to do part
time news at Wham, and his name was on the air was Robert Jason,
but his name was actually Robert Fayne. Well Robert Fayne was distributing child
pornography and they caught him. He ends up committing was side afterward, and
his reason was, I just wanted to impress people online, seriously, dude,
And we were all kind of like stunned, and Lantry went on there
they go, oh, yeah, the guy used to work here. He
did, hasn't worked here in a while, but yeah, yeah. Now
when I was a kid, uh, there was a girl and I went
to school with. She had been left back. So those were the kids
that you kind of were aware of, right, they were a little bit
older, but they're in your grade. So she's supposed to be you know
what I mean, but we're all in. She showed me your booby.
Yeah you got exactly, Doug. So she's she was this girl that I
was like, the type of girl that would always tattle on you, and
she tried to give you stickers and things. And looking back now, I
don't know, I don't know if she would have been classified today, maybe
being on the spectrum, I have no idea. But we also had gray
lines, you know, that shitty fake tile they had in all these small
town schools, and it was gray lines. So if you stepped on the
gray line, you liked her. So everybody, all the guys be hopping
over that. We've mean horrible, right. So we're going from third grade
to fourth grade, and all of a sudden there's a call that she has
been murdered and that her dad had a bad name in business, and that
someone broke in. This is a rural community, rural. The cops show
up and it turns out her fifteen year old brother had taken the car out
and she started with the I'm gonna tell and he snapped and stabbed her with
a fishing knife that he would got fish with over one hundred and nine times,
one hundred nine times. And this motherfucker ended up like he was fifteen,
he was a basketball star, he was well liked. It would be
exactly of you just wouldn't expect, you wouldn't expect, and so he winds
up. I mean, I can't imagine, as I said, at this
end of life. Right my fifty second birthday, I lost both kids that
day. One's going to prison and one's gone for ever. And he got
out because I remember, like my senior year there was a buzz because he
came to watch a basketball game because he played basketball. He was like a
basketball star in the school. And he's in the stands and was like,
oh he wound up. I think lived in Rochester for a littlehile, because
I've talked about this when I was on the radio and people would call and
go, yeah, I know him, Jimmy Hall, and would never say
why he was here or anything. I think got married, and I think
all his records are sealed because he was a miner. Was it was a
juvenile but again, another one of those you would never ever ever think.
Guy at a church I went to went to this big like my parents switched
from Catholicism and we went to more of an evangelical church. Had to go
every Sunday, even to the point, Doug, when I was starting out
in radio, I would do midnight to six am Sunday morning. Midnight Saturday.
My father, if I was living under his roof, I still had
to get up at nine and we had to go to church. It was
a rule. So this guy at church, he was a teacher, seemed
nice, lovely family caught on the side of the road banging a fifteen year
old girl like another one that you would just never would expect. And not
a creepy guy, not a guy like you know, you know how everybody
putting around those memes of Biden rubbing someone's shoulders and all, and if you
start to put it, if anything ever came out, they go, well,
he never nothing, nothing like that, nothing like it. The pastor
of that church caught banging this woman they called Aunt Pudgy on his desk.
He was married and had kids. Small town daddy, Yeah, small town
U. Two teachers gotten a fist fight in the in the main office.
Never would have expected that. Two teachers gotten a fist fight in the main
office. Mister Strong was one of their names. He was the football coach.
The other one became one of my favorite teachers, mister McNeil. McNeil
went down and like, yeah, I think he had a cut out of
his head, but even just feigned it all. So anytime I would see
mister Strong and go, hey, McNeil says, all I did, I
did that the fire every time. Did it three years and he was such
a sport he didn't care. It was fine, it was fine, but
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guy who works with it, it sounds like this guy who was at a
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a break when we come back. I want to call my mom. It's
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nice life. Anything over eighty, I think is good. Yeah,
that's right. So that's the way I look I always look at it this
way. I think I got If I can get twenty five more good years,
all right, it's a pretty good win, right. I mean,
if if you lived to be one hundred and four, you're middle age right
now technically technically, but that's a stretch. But I'm just going if I
had twenty five more good years where everything's functioning fine, I'm not needing of
anything. I'm not right, how my health is good, I'm able to
do even this or something close. Would that would be freaking phenomenal. That's
my goal. Twenty five more good years, more good years of this,
Yeah, I'm in Yeah, Yeah, I would do it until you know,
I lose my buy vocal courts. Uh. So Vinny's here and Vince
was part of They had the top three seven in Rochester. Top three seven
were the women who made it legal in New York State for women to go
topless in public places where men can be topless. Ye. So there were
women in Rochester that would walk around and I think they got arrested and there
were all kinds of problems, but they were the top three seven. So
to commemorate the anniversary of them, we we recreated with the brother we show
at Cobbs Hill a big photo of women topless, of everybody topless, So
we all went out to Cobs Hill. Did you set this up? Yes?
I was part of it. We had some fantastic promotions in the early
two thousands. Yeah. And it wasn't a promotion as you say, commemorative,
but it was. But it was a great thing and I think it
got a lot of class and it was you know, it was CMF was
behind it, and my mom was in town. So my Mom's like,
oh yeah, yeah, let's go, let's going free. And that was
it. My mother was and my mom who came from like I could never
really see where my mom stood, because when I was a kid, I
always thought she was like a drip and she was just like this, somewhat
conservative, not really this. And then I find out years later, like
my father makes a big deal that we're coming up on the fiftieth anniversary of
them streaking my mom, my dad, my aunt, and my uncle.
That's why they called the streaks, and lo they streaked when you were two,
Yes, you had a sitter. I guess guys were hanging out.
I guess slopping in your eyes. So my father goes, The reason I
think this is such a big deal is because and he wants to tell like
he tells my sons, my older sons, right, the other grandkids,
my brother's kids are little. You know. I think the girls are like
ten and the little boys like seven or something. So my father tells my
sons. He goes, you know, I do that because there's nothing grocer
than picture in your parents naked's like hi, high energy. But you saw
my mom topless. Well yeah, and you said you were thinking about calling
Marge, Right, Yeah, I'm gonna call. So whenever anybody brings up
Marge. You every couple of years, I say, I turned and say
to whoever's in the room in this case, Doug and Danny and Troy.
Oh, right, do you know I've seen Bill's mom's tits before, and
y'all look at me like you sick bastard, and I really have I'm like,
show me pictures. Sam, Well, my mom just turned seventy six.
She's in the wheel house. Yea, is she recovering okay from her
surgery? I think so? Yes? Are you having that young Phelps boy
and your podcast again? William? Only she could call you young Hello.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm very late. Oh that's okay. I figured
it was law art. No, it's not all over. We're this is
our last segment of the podcast. But I saved. I saved the best
for last. Figure out. Yeah, well it would be you, and
I wanted to wish you a happy birthday for me, that's right, it
was my first first day. Yes, it was your actual birthday, right.
And then Vince is he remember Vince presses and he he just talked about
seeing the topless that cops Hill, do you remember? Yeah? By the
way, they were spectacular. Were you really you gotta do this? You
know? The ABC D and I'm not reciting the alphabet for Marge, but
I'm gonna guess a small se No, No, this is Doug, Doug,
Doug Phelps this year, Doug, who's mom about a year older than
me but usually dates women in their seventies. I believe his last ye need
to watch Oldest Gold. It's let's trama all they wanted to sex and watch
TV. Great scull cooked meal. You can sleep in a lot of naps
if you're bad in bed, they don't complain, and you might even sneak
and at a Social Security checker getting the wheel just by exident. You never
know. I got three Kryo cabdets and a dog. But it's not a
will. I'm getting it. I'm rolling the dice, baby, Old Gold.
I'm gonna sneak into that wheel. I'm gonna get a Ferrari someday.
I'm just playing playing my cards, right. I'm glad you're up there and
not around my friends. Oh okay, yeah, well you know now my
mom went to Nazareth and she still has she's a Catholic girl. Yes she
has. You have a ruler, Oh, she says, I don't know
where this is going, right, I'm willing, I'm I'm yes ending,
I'm yes ending, Doug. Can you remember me in the corner where we
go get some ground rules. But I do remember my mom's all her friends
and stuff, and she has one friend that I remember, and I will
say this to my mom, and it's kind of rude. I think I
already told her though. I remember, meaning like her college and I was
probably about twelve at the time, and it was all these kids and the
moms and stuff. And I remember seeing this one mom going wow, I
didn't know moms could be that pretty. Do you know who that was?
It was start Mary Ott, it was Mary Alice. Yeah, who I
just saw? Who I just saw? And it's now in her late seventies
and it looks fantastic. You all, actually, all of you ladies look
great. I just showed her picture tonight. I was at dinner and we
were talking because her mother is a hundred and one and she had a picture
of her and her mother at the winery left dog. That dog just a
FETs off the reservation. We got a few heartbeats away. I can't.
I mean, I dated a girl in a wheelchair once and she pissed me
off. And I stole her wheelchair and she came crawling back. This isn't
bad. No, it's not bad. Doug's very funny and very sweet.
Actually, so you did show her mom's one hundred and one. Yeah,
he mom's one hundred and one. But anyway, my friend said she is
really beautiful Mary, and yeah, well I wanted to thank you. And
I guess while I have me on here, when when you think back,
I mean, was there anything because I've heard recently a couple of things that
I forgot about that I did as a kid I was reminded of. But
is there anything that I did that really stands out when you think back?
Yeah? Now, and I'm not talking it could be good or bad.
Most of the stuff that I hear is bad. I was reminded of a
couple says the other day. I can only manage who you have a brother
or sister? Right? Heavy? Both? Both? Will you? Ever?
You know played barber cut each other's hair and get caught doing that?
You know, I was, I was older by five years of my sister
and eight years of my brother. They did things like my brother and sister.
Because I was just talking to Kevin today and he's been leaving the kids
alone a little bit because what's Mallory eleven? And they were going out tonight
and they had a babysitter, and Mallory's like, I can handle it,
and he goes. Now. Sometimes Dylan could be really rough, the young
brother, and could really give you a hard time. And I remember one
time, this is true, we had some I think it was your grandmother's
table, mom, that came in in the kitchen, and it was an
old school table, was really pretty, had a lot of artwork to it,
but underneath there was lattice and it came to like a really sharp point,
so if you hit your leg on it or something, it would hurt.
Right. So one day, all of a sudden, I come home
and there's balloons and there's all this ship and my dad it's like, oh,
you wouldn't believe what happened, Katie said. Kevin was underneath the table
and he stood up and he whacked his head and it was bleeding, and
she stayed with him. And I think Kate and Kevin were probably around Mallory
and Dylan's ate somewhere in that eleven eight after school. It was after school,
yeah, yeah, So where we would have Yeah, we would,
Yeah, about a half hour or something, right, and then dad came
in first. Yeah. So then they take Kevin. I think did he
get stitches? Yes, he did stitches in his head. My dad's talking
about my sister. You stayed calm, you handled this. You did a
great job. Kevin came up underneath. He was screaming and crying, but
you great. He brought home balloons for all this. And I don't know
when we found out they had gotten in a fight and my sister had taken
a bottle of pledge, like the furniture polish, and at the back end
the head that like flip on it whacked him over the head. That's what
it was. And my father's we're not you're right, that was it.
But what about I'm trying to think of I can think of a few things
myself. But now, when you were giving birth, when you were giving
birth to Bill, they had lamas on were you doing the Yes, I
did do the I did the lamas. He says he was ten pounds.
I mean he was ten pounds, so I was unable to do it.
And that's at that time the doctor said, obviously, if you wanted to
be awake. Why aren't we he was spinal, But then his dad could
not commence to the operating room or anything, and so we did the spinal
and even then, I'll never forget the empathy. The theologist is pushing on
me and they're on push, pushing. I was doing my best, and
but then when they delivered him, they were like, oh my god,
because he had such big shoulders from all that, it was a big,
big baby. That's when the guy says, I if I as a woman,
I'm like, no, you could never do this right there. Call
it. This is brand. We're gonna solve this. In the United States,
America and the world. There's a difference between men and women. Guys
would be like, no, I can't do this a games one, but
a woman is like, I'm in here for forty eight hours that I have
my son. Yes, wow, yeah, no. How long were you
in labor? Ten hours? Twelve hours? Yeah? I was twelve hours,
but there was something with me. I was like twelve hours with everyone,
and the doctor didn't explain that some women are just like that. You'd
go into labor and then I would never really get the urge to push,
and it would just go on and on. Then they would give your potocan
and bringing on, so each one was long. Yeah it is long.
Geez. Yeah. Now, Bill, are you named after anybody? My
dad sort of because my dad only in that I'm not a junior because he
didn't have a middle name and I do, okay, So yeah, they
didn't give your dad a middle name. No, wow, No, And
I am William pat Trick. He had a confirmation name and it was Paul.
He wanted Patrick, but he was too young and couldn't spell it,
so he could. So that's why he did it. When he went around
the Catholic school for like second grade or whatever, he goes, all right,
I guess what's just going Paul? But that was his confirmation name,
not his given middle name. I guess they didn't Helen. And Joe didn't
give him a No, they didn't know. No. I think Joe was
just Joseph. Yeah, that's the story. At Johnny Cash, they didn't
give him a name. It was Jr. They didn't give him a name
he had when he went in the Air Force, he had to take the
name Johnny because Jr. Yeah, they had to have a name and the
Air Force, apparently, so he wasn't JR. Anymore because if you watch
the movie, they're calling him JR. And then I found out and when
I went to his museum that that was his given name was two letters,
JR. JR. Cash. Look at that. Were you born in Rhinebeck
or I was in because of the hospital. You know, there's the new
hospital in Pokeepsie which hangs on the cliff. There is like unbelievable. That's
where my mom had surgery. Unbelievable. She was just there. It is
I was in today. Were you part of the one of the architecture firms
that designed it? I wasn't. We were when I was in that business.
We were part of the walkway over the Hudson, which was a great
project. But that hospital looks like if you're looking at it from across the
river, it's like unbelieva Vasser Brothers Yea brothers. Yeah. Yeah. And
my mom was just there and I was in there weather and she kept saying,
well, I have a river room. Well they put her on the
wrong side and she had the parking lot of room. But I got to
go out and but they do. It's a beautiful view over the Hudson River,
like in the waiting room, and there is something about water that I
always find very calming. I don't know when you're looking at a lake or
river or that river so wide, you know, so that's always good,
nothing bad, mom, Come on, Well, I wasn't going for something
that I guess very sentimental. And what I can clearly clearly remember is there
was five years difference between you and Katie. Yes, and you were in
kindergarten. You know, we dropped you off and stuck and hats that morning,
and you got on the bus saving all and you were just so good
when you came home when I had well Dad had seen me that thing.
But when I brought her home, she was in the cradle by the fireplace
and you came in from the bus, and I remember you just rocking the
cradle and petting her so gently, And you're a really good big brother.
You really were well for a few minutes. That's why I like old women,
because they love rocking the gradle. And you know what I mean.
All right, Well, that's a very sweet that's a sweet memory because I'm
thinking of different things, like I know he never snuck any booze, or
which snuck any booze? Dug then frankly turned the place into a brothel when
they were gone. I mean I had parties just before or after Katie started
teething. That helps. I mean, there was all kinds of craps snuck
out, did everything. I did everything, really yeah, I even had
There was a time where somebody called up but was I was going to the
prom. It was my prom, and some parents called up and said,
hey, we're here. You're having the party. And I'm like, my
parents kind of cornered me and go, hey, we're here, We're having
the party. And I said, no, we're not. And they go,
oh, yeah, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it,
so you go have a good time, and everybody's gonna come back here.
Well I didn't want to come back, so we took the limo when somewhere
else I roll up late. The places just littered with kids. And you
know, it was right when the d WI laws were starting to get pretty
tough, and it was nineteen eighty nine bad and all that mother against bad
and they were mad, I mean, excuse me, and there was a
big story about it. I don't I've never been able to confirm this,
but it was one that I had heard that some kid had a party and
his property, the parents property was adjacent to the school, so it's spilled
onto the school property. Cops showed up, and it made the cover of
the New York Times or a section of the New York Times. His parents
were in Japan on because dad was on business, and then they read this
story and the like they're they got in all kinds of trouble themselves and the
kid and all this. So this was all the I'm gonna say rhetoric,
but whatever. Look, as a kid, you're just looking to have fun
and these people are trying to block you fun from this end of life.
You go, I'm just trying to keep you alive. So my parents are
running around dumping out booze. Now I came out and I had a beer.
So I'm running around the side of the house and all of a sudden,
this arm pops out. It's my old man. He probably closed lest
the beer goes flying. And my best friend just played played video games in
the basement and he didn't give a shit. But everybody I felt like lame.
You know. I had taken a girl who was already in college,
and she came back to go with me because she had graduated the year before,
and I was like, oh man. And then the next day I
went, I got really drunk. That's right. And then you can have
somebody drop you up at the corner so you could drive your own car home
from the corner up. Yes, so no one would know brother, sister,
nobody would be out right, and everybody or anything there. It would
be perfectly fun. Yeah, and nobody would know. You would dress you,
no one would know why I was drunk. And my dad had just
finished. He had just put in this atrium door down in the basement,
you know, one of these glass doors that would open up. It was
a walkout. Baseman had put out this gravel patio, nice bench had put
in I think a KOI pond and all this stuff. And so I come
running down and he had just put this in. The screen is closed,
and I come running down, hey, and I jump in midair and I
go, oh shit, the screen's closed. I hit the screen. The
screen just falls out of the track onto the gravel patio, and my ol
man goes get out my sight. I remember, I just remember, and
then finds me later knows I'm drunk. And goes, I hope you have
a hangover tomorrow. Yep, that was I think I was probably like I
think, Kevin did a lot of adventurous things that were uh, I don't
want to say typical, but like bicycling across country, backpacking through Europe,
doing all that stuff. I thought you would worry as a parent, but
but almost proud of, like, this kid's really doing something. I was
the one you went shit, you guys didn't know it. I know you
guys didn't know it. And my favorite though from my brother and sister.
So my sister had My sister had been vegetarian since she was I think like
nine, so she learned to cook, did her own food and everything.
Had left something on the stove and the pot had started to disintegrate because it
was on there so long. Whatever was on boiled out of it, and
the handle started to melt. So my brother and sister decided that they would
this just listen to exactly what I'm saying. They went outside and they buried
it in the backyard. That's pop. Guess who never noticed the pot missing?
Never never knew. I never knew Katie and Kevin getting a fight,
and Kevin says, yeah, well, I'll tell mom about the pot,
and my mother starts flipping out, going crazy, and then it turns out
that they had buried the pot in the backyard. But I still think the
funniest part of it she never knew. I never knew am I was so
happy when I hand out it was a bird pot. I know for them
it was a great thing. Yet I think maybe it didn't like melt,
but it was so you couldn't get a clean and Katie didn't want trouble at
the bottom of it. Yeah, Mom, are'd you raised some very smart
kids? So I want to ask you this question because when I was in
school, when I was at Fisher, we had speech class and one kid
gave a speech about how to get your parents to not overreact, and he
always said I would start with a pregnancy story and say, like, you
know, I met this girl. One thing led to another, and then
I wrecked the car. Oh so you're not pregnant. No, what happened
to the car? So they were so relieved, yes that nobody was knocked
up that you know the car. You know, they could forget the car.
So did Bill or anybody ever tried that stuff with you well that was
the story. That was the pod story. Yeah, because she was relieved,
but that was by accident. That's why I thought, you know,
they may have done something like that. I no, no one was no
no. I usually at those times just gave myself. At the end,
I would just taking a Yeah, I tried to skip school. And the
garage was sit it was attached to the house. But sit back just a
little bit. So the bus comes by it, I'm waving it to go
by. I got my fishing pole. I'm gonna go up to this fishing
hole and I think and all of a sudden, who pops out of the
front door. Where are you know? I'm right here, drives me to
the corner, goes You're getting on that pud like even now, what happened
to mental health days? I just wanted to go fishing stal health days.
I needed a mental health day. Was sick and at shit school, we
didn't call it that back then. Skipired. You probably attest to this.
You woke up, You're like, I don't feel good. You'll feel better
when you into school. You're going, oh yeah, that too, And
you had to watch to school, not like all these pussies to get picked
up over there out to go up here both ways. All right, well
moms, now, thank you for thanks, thanks for having one question.
How are you going to celebrate the rest of your birthday? I've got some
strippers coming in. I got uh Tatiana, Mary Courtney, Patty and Cinnamon,
and uh we got a birthday cake and uh we're gonna Sh'S getting real.
We're gonna ask some fun I am. I'm going to edit this podcast.
I am going to put it together. I have some other things I
need to do. I probably edit up some videos for tomorrow's social and then
I will go home. I have been invited by my Irish friend to meet
him for a drink, but I don't know that I'm going to do that.
I think you would have yes, ye, yeah. I don't know
that I'm gonna do that though, but he did call me earlier tonight and
say, hitch your birthday, meet me for the drink and I I and
I said, he goes call me when you're done, and I just said,
I don't get out of here. So probably this weekend. I don't
know I'll do something, but I know you're fifty two, you know what
I'm happy about. You know what I really wanted to do today more than
anything that sounds really strange. I wanted to go and do that exercise class
just because at fifty two I could. And the funny thing was that the
owner of the gym was there. We're having a conversation. She asked me
something about the kids, and I said, yeah, and I go one
of the boys call me. He goes, and I'm taking out to dinner,
so I'm I go save your money. He goes, I said,
this is my birthday, because it's your birthday. So then throughout the entire
class they had, everything was fifty two seconds, like yeah, there was
a fifty two second plank, there was a fifth like all this ship and
you're the only guy. I'm the only guy going in. But I only
said it to her quietly off to the side because she was asking about my
son, and I said, noah, he's in college. I got the
kids work, and he's got no money. I said, it's so funny
because you just called me from her birthday and goes, let me, I
go save your money. She goes, when's your birthday? I said,
oh, she's when's your birthday? I said today? She goes, it's
your birthday. Women are really good at keeping the secrets about birthdays. So
I guess see where you thought that was a good idea. Yeah, I
didn't. I didn't even think, to be honest with you, I didn't
think so. Then after that it became so. But I was happy to
say. I was. You know, I'm old, and it's all right.
Did they give you fifty two dinner? No they didn't, Dougy I
offered as a workout. Hey, listen, I'm willing, and no one
would take a bite. You want funds like these. Let me show you
what did you do? Mom? You went out to dinner. I went
out to dinner with a friend to night, you know. And it's somebody
that I know I'm getting to know pretty well. But her and I said,
today's my son's birthday. Because it's my son's birthday too. So he's
fifty three, you're fifty two. He said. That was quite amusing.
Yeah, I bet I would look better. I don't know, oh,
I was. I was waiting to hear. Of course you do. Of
course you're of my warrior and Mike Tyson just yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, my monest I do. I do it as a joke I do.
I do it as a joke, and I will say my biggest fan
is her. I could get her to laugh at pretty much anything. I
don't even have to say stuff. Sometimes I just make a face. Some
of my favorite stuff ever is over family things, and you know, it
could be anybody and something will happen and I'll just look at her say you
can't, Oh, she knows it already, and or I'll just go oh.
I did tell a couple of agg stories tonight, I told I told
a couple of my favorite AGG stories. I told fans, well, but
these may not be good. I told her. I told about the the
St. Patrick's Day parade and the remember I told about the I told about
the anniversary party where she went in and laid on the couch and Kevin and
I came in and knelt next to her and put the and then I told
the story about when she left me the voicemail on my birthday. Oh my
god. That woman was a classic. There'll never be another. And I
did love her tremendously because I don't know why. I always felt like through
all the bullshit and there was a lot, uh, I don't know why
I could see right to the core of that woman. And I knew that
she loved me and had always had my best interest at I don't know why.
I just always always felt that. But there was a lot of a
lot of stuff and a lot of people that she made upset. Oh yeah,
yeah, oh yeah, But I love I loved her, and you
were always her favorite. I think I think she laughed at the end of
the all right, well, Mom, I thank you for having me and
uh and and putting up with me. I'll say that it's been wonderful.
It's been a fifty two years, I gotta say. I mean, it's
been a hell of a rise. I just was gonna say, it's been
a great ride. Yeah, it's been a great run. I hope I
hope I have any more with you. Yeah, me too. All Right,
well, I will talk to you soon. Love you, mom,
Thank you. Okay, love you too. Good night, guy. All
right, there we go. All right, we'll close it out. I
was going to tell another story, but I think we're I think I think
we hit the women. I didn't realize Granny Egg died. Yeah, she
died, uh gosh, about four or five years ago. Here here,
brit I would have brought another bottle, but maybe I bought an empty bottle
with a rose of it, just to commemorate it. Dan Barillo brought in
all kinds of booze for Vinch Press and Troy you were hanging out, hey,
thank you, Happy birthday, thank you. And for the guy who
people love the intro so much song, I'm gonna have to hit the outro
again. Uh. I have a friend, Kevin Foodie who wants a personal
intro all right. He loves you. He thinks that would be Doug Phelps.
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see tomorrow. Tale didn't know what to do.
I'm trying on TV.