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Paul. I'm recently returned from a
trip to South Florida. As you're aware,

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I'm not usually in cars that often, so when i'm down there,

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I get to see car culture at
its finest and not so finest. Florida

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contains multitud multitudes, as we know. As we all know, picture it

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on the back across the bumper,
so it's not like a small bumper sticker

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across the bumper in white lettering only
gay cops pull me over. Let me

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repeat that, a black, regular, normal car with only gay cops pull

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me over in white so you can
really see it. Yeah, what does

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that mean? I'm literally trying to
figure out if I should be offended or

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not. Yes, I I don't
understand the Okay, here's here's where I'm

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coming from. Yea. Is it
a slur? Is it like if you're

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if you're pulling me over, then
you're good, You're good? Or is

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it a gay man who's like,
I'm such a hotty? Yeah that only

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gay cops told me over. Hey
yeah, oh god, that's because it's

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South Florida. Also, I don't
know. If this car were somewhere else,

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I think i'd have a better game. I'm prepared to issue a judgment.

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Okay, I think it's offensive.
I was like, are we a

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slur a celebration coming out? I
don't understand what's happening, Sir Macs of

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someone being like, take a joke, you know, like it feels like

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that. Yeah, maybe it is
a gay cop who's celebrating their whole thing.

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They're like beautiful, their whole Like, look, I get it.

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The police are a problem right now. But some of us are cool,

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man, some of us are gay. Hey, I'm Paul, America,

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and this is that aged well yesterday's
pop culture. Today we are in the

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midst of spooky October. We are
deep in it now, are we are

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elbow deep in the in the swamp
that is spooky October? Yeah? And

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I hear howling in the distance exactly
and sucking us down. The terrors are

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coming in at night and they're finding
us, Paul, exactly. Night terrors

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are chasing us down. Hey,
we are in the thriller video, is

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what I'm saying, Erica. Before
we get to our spooky movie today,

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we do have a five star Apple
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you? Yes? Please? Okay, So this one is from my so

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right, yes, yeah, my
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hilarious podcast is my absolute favorite.
A coworker recommended it to me years ago

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and I was immediately hooked. I
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you a problem. I've cackled out
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so much doesn't matter if I'm previously
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as the witty retold plots is the
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the editing is expertly tight, so
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I love everything about it. Keep
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thank you for the compliment on the
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agree with you there because I have
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it is excellent because you have no
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You could not tell from listening to
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of us, being like, wait, what was her name started with a

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C. Wait wait, I get
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it up. I want to get
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first initial of the last name.
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Do you mind if I go pee
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The pea breaks. We go along
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called social life. Thank you so
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thank you for complimenting the editing.
I work very hard on it, so

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I really appreciate that. If you
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tote bag, let us know this
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to send it off for you.
Erica, what is the what is the

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movie? Today's film is the nineteen
sixty horror suspense Psycho. You know what

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I think of Psycho? Yes,
I think that you'd have to be psychoed

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and not have signed up for our
Patreon bam. That's where he works in

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the Patreon. That's where mister marketing
comes in and sells the movie patreon dot

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com. Slash that age, well, don't be a psycho, don't be

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a psycho. Don't be a Norman
Bates, be a Master Bates. All

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right. Psycho was requested by d
by K and by Josephine and by me.

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Let's get ridal Thank you DK and
Josephine. Psycho was written by Joseph

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Stefano. Okay, really short gay
sidebar here, love it go. There

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is a very famous eighties porn star
named Joey Stefano. Is it possible they

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related? Is his nephew because Joey
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real name. But I read that
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that being the author. It was
based on Robert Bloch's novel of the same

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name. It was directed by one
mister Alfred Hitchcock Heard of Him. It

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stars Anthony Perkins, Janet ly Vera
Miles, John Gavin. We're gonna do

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some talking about John Gavin today and
also Martin Balsam. I'd also be very

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very talented Mark. Martin Balsom' very
handsome is he? I want to kick

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Martin Balsom out of bed. Really, he's got a way about him.

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You know. I want to grab
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That's what I want to do with
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to tell me old Hollywood tales.
I'm not saying I would go to a

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bar and be like that one,
but I'm saying if that one was like

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you, I'd be like, we
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Psycho was nominated for four Academy Awards, including Best Director, Best Supporting

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Actress for Janet Lee. It won
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Yeah, somehow it was not nominated
for Best Score, which is bullshit,

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bullshit. It may be the best
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it been sixty five years? Yeah, I agree. It was definitely one

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of the five best scores of the
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film, Paula like five years ago
at the New York Philharmonic. The New

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York Philharmonic does a whole series every
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like the actual Philharmonic actually plays the
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like thirty people playing the violin,
just like violently playing the violin, it

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was fucking cool. Those violinists must
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Yeah, they're working hard in this
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see it on stage, but like, the entire score is strings. It's

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it was all violins and cellos.
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no winds. Clarinet, yeah there
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there were no brass instruments on that
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also, weirdly a tuba I think
like a psycho. Raised a lot of

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concerns for the old production code,
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as an unmarried couple with Marian in
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We're gonna get into that. We'll
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from that. And most interesting Erica
the act of flushing the toilet, which

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had never appeared on film or television. I tried to get a second source

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on that. I couldn't. That
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But it does kind of feel right
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Ever, they hadn't started making films
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he didn't have the nineteen eighties spate
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again. Yeah, that is hilarious. Yeah, that's the first time anyone

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had like, of course, leave
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can I guess he was a little
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the way that he was like,
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See if I can get away with
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with Anthony Perkins, who does not
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us. He did a shot for
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which was all so terrible. I
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Perkins role was. Okay, everyone, I want you to think of who

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should have played the Anthony Perkins role. You're thinking of like a Jim Parsons

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kind of person, maybe like a
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like light voice, yes, what
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a soft boy, A soft boy. You want a soft boy.

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You want a shallow may perhaps,
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a little too intense, a little
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threatening. No, they cast Vince
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five, Vince Vaughn. I can't
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like maybe the worst casting I've ever
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is. Okay, I like Gus
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but like, oh my god,
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The only person who's on task is
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H. Macy in the new version. Okay, not that Martin Balsam isn't

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fabulous in the role, but William
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I'm like, Okay, yeah,
that's the only part of this movie I'm

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enjoying. Everything else is garbage.
Even Julianne Moore, She's fine, but

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like I but Vera Miles is great. Vera Miles is fantastic. You don't

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need Julianne Moore for that part.
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hot, but he's not John Gavin. Oh right, I actually forgot who's

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Gavin? Okay, Look when people
talk about how like unsexy old movies are,

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they're wrong. They're wrong. The
movie stars of the thirties, forties

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and fifties were the hottest fucking people. John Gavin is now is now the

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bar for a hunk to clear?
Mine will always be Gary Cooper. Sure,

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Gary Cooper is still like the top, but John Cavin is top five.

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And can I tell you how excited
I got when I looked him up

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and found out that not only is
he gorgeous, he's his Spanish, he

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is, he is, his father
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think Mexican. I think so,
yeah, I can't remember he became the

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ambassador to Mexico's that would perhaps,
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is Spanish, and I was like, yeah, we got what. Psycho

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has a ninety six percent critical rating
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audience score, and is a ninety
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I think one hundred, you think
I think a hundred. Okay, I

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understand like an audience score, because
no one's gonna love not everyone's everyon's gonna

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love everything. Also, there's a
lot of like you maybe think it's gonna

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be scarier than it is, especially
if you're watching it now, because it's

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an old movie. It's not as
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a little on the slow side at
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It's in some ways, Yeah,
it's funny that you say that because

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my actual reaction to it was this
acting is less presentational than I expected.

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Yes, but it is also kind
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time. We should talk about that, because I think Anthony Perkins is like

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doing something different from everyone else in
the movie, which is what makes Norman

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Bates work so so well. Yeah, but as a critical rating, I

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honestly I'm like, what is wrong? What what are you dinging this movie

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on? Because it's Yeah, I
think it's fucking perfect. I wonder,

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I wonder if there is an aspect
and I don't think this is a good

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critical thing to do, but like, since it was pushing so many boundaries,

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if it was deemed inappropriate, and
that's what some critics got their dander

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up about something, I don't know. I mean, it is a ninety

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six, so it's obviously most people, most critics will agree this is a

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fucking great movie. But I genuinely
like, I'm going through it in my

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head and I'm like, I don't
see what your problem is. It's tight,

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it's it's it's extremely suspensful. It's
not super long, it's like an

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hour and forty minutes, and it's
a fast hour and forty minutes. Yeah,

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Like, even though I said just
before, like it is, there

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are moments that it kind of takes
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I don't like. What's your fucking
problem? For percent of critics seven percent

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of Lady Critics, Paul, when
did you first see Psycho? Well,

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hold on to your butts everyone.
I saw this for the first time yesterday.

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Shocking, shocking, this. I
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I basically knew everything that happened.
There's a part in the middle where

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I was like, I actually don't
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end, and like that it got
more suspenseful. But like, the whole

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Marion Crane arc is basically so famous. If you've ever watched an Oscar ceremony,

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you've you've seen at least a clip
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Like, one of one of the
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I would say, top five,
top five easy. Yeah. Yeah,

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so like Scarlett O'Hara on the fucking
mountain, like looking over plant I'll

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never be hungry again, right,
and Indiana Jones running away from the boulder.

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Yes, the shower scene, eat, eat, and then that last

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moment in The Godfather when they closed
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I feel like that's five. So
I watched it yesterday. I really liked

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it. Hot Take. It's a
really good movie. It's great. Right,

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I'm so glad you like it.
Yeah, and I was. I

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was actually genuinely excited to watch it
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me. I knew all the twists, so I really enjoyed watching it.

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And I the score is I mean, from the first second you press play

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on of all apps, Peacock,
this film was currently showing on Peacock,

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and it's just like like right away, and I'm like, oh my god,

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Like it's in like you're on the
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stop, you know how They're like
in Sex and the City. New York

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City is the fifth girl. I
swear to God in this movie, the

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score is the fifth character. It's
a sixth character. It should have been

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listed as a character. Yeah.
How about you, Erica, When did

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you first see Psycho? I have
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when I was a kid, we
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Orlando, and they had a psycho
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an attraction where they show you like
a clip of the movie. They show

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you a little documentary about the making
of the movie. Then they break down

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the shower scene and how it was
filmed, and then you watch like a

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video about it, and then they
take you into a room that's like a

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recreation of the set of the shower
scene, okay, and then they show

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you the actors, like I think
they get someone from the audience to come

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in and be janetly so you're like, ah, you know. And so

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I saw it that way when I
was young. I don't remember how old,

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maybe twelve, And it takes all
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see it way, so it's not
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how a film is made. And
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the first time when I was in
like junior high. I'd say like fourteen

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fifteen, I don't remember. But
this one is an interesting one because I've

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seen it in the theater like three
times, okay, because they keep re

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releasing it. It's like like the
anniversary or blah blah blah, or the

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time with the Philharmonic. So I've
actually I saw this once with like a

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drag queen talking over it and make
in fun of it, like that's how

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many times I've seen this movie.
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theater at least three times. Okay, I adore this movie. It's so

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good. It might be one of
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And that kind of got me in
the yeah, which is why I like

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you and you like the water.
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first Hitchcock I ever saw. And
then after that I was like, well,

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I'm gonna watch literally everything this person's
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disappoint fair I've mentioned this before.
I think with Hitchcock, he is deeply

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problematic as a human being, but
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care, Like that is my rubric. If that bothers you and you don't

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want to watch his films because he
was a deeply problematic human being, I

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totally understand. But when someone dies, I'm good. I'm like, I

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can watch their articles. I believe
you said. Once God cancels someone who

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am I? Who am I to
completely God has already started, right what's

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god like? Yeah, all right, Erica. The tagline for Psycho was

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it doesn't have a tagline because it's
from nineteen sixty. They didn't do that

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back then. They didn't do that. They didn't need to. It's mostly

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it's like from Alfred Hitchcock, Master
of Suspense, you must see Psycho.

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So do you want to read the
iTunes synopsis? Sure thing. Alfred Hitchcock's

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masterpiece of the macabre stars Anthony Perkins
as the troubled Norman Bates, whose old

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dark house and adjoining motel are not
the place to spend a quiet evening.

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I feel like I should be Vincent
Price reading this. Oh yeah, yeah,

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reading your best Grinch voice. You
know, the narrator from The Grinch.

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Okay, here we go. No
one knows that better than Marion Crane.

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I don't know why what that accident
is. No one knows that better

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than Marion Crane. Janet Lee,
the ill fated traveler who's he ends in

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the notorious quote unquote shower scene,
titilating as first a private detective, then

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Mary and sister Vera Miles searches for
her. The horror and the suspense mount

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to a terrifying climax where the mysterious
killer is finally revealed. I mean that's

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pretty good. It gives away a
little bit too much if I mean,

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I don't know that anyone's going into
Psycho Cold. I would have killed to

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have gone into Psycho Cold. Yeah, Like, I don't know that anyone

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after like opening weekend of nineteen sixty, yeah, went into Psycho Cold.

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I feel like, even like the
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did you see that fucking movie?
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and then you're like, what the
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Yeah, it did strike me as
how much Brian de Palma stole for Dress

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to Kill. Oh absolutely, Like
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stretches of just watching just having the
camera Unjanetly, because the camera loves fucking

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Janetly. There's a shocking take like
yeah, it isn't interesting too when you

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see Gantly from the right angle and
you're like, oh, there's Jamie Lee

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Curtis one hundred percent. Yeah,
they have the same mouth and the same

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nose. Yes, Janetly is so
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This film is that the nineteen fifties
were just the worst era for women

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in haircuts. I lament that that
was like the high point of Elizabeth Taylor's

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career. Yeah, because the face
is perfect, but for a long time

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she was saddled with just the worst
haircut. Yeah, we actually talked about

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that haircut and Will and Grace when
you said that's what they were going for

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with Karen and the pilot this hair
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does not work on anyone. If
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of us can. Let us admit
defeat. Do you have an actual synopsis

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for Psycho? Mothers am I right? Moms, come on, geez jeez,

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what a nag. That should have
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right? All right, stick around, we're gonna come right back, and

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we're gonna take you through Psycho and
we're back. We open with a credit

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sequence set to Bernard Herman's famously taught
score. That is a tot score.

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Tot is the perfect word it is. Yeah, it's a tot score.

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We zoos the high tight ass of
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It's a bubble button. Bubble.
But if that score were a fruit,

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it would be a ripe juicy apple
beach. We zoom into the window

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of a semi sleazy hotel in Phoenix, Arizona, and we see Marion Crane

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played by the Great Janetly in bed
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Sam loomis played by John Gavin.
Where have you been? Where? If

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you've been my whole life? John
Gavin, Paul is expanding himself, Paul

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is sweat, He's not in the
vapors. I didn't need a fainting couch,

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and frankly about fifteen minutes of privacy. Okay. Look. One of

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the many problematic things about Alfred Hitchcock
famously is that he was like he made

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his actors do things that they sometimes
felt uncomfortable with, including John Gavin when

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he got to set and Alfred Hitchcock
was like, we're gonna need you to

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lose that shirt and John Gavin is
like, but why, and He's like

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because, and I like, look, obviously that's wrong. Yeah, but

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but she's cake that we get in
this film so hot. He like Hitchcock

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gave us what we were asking for. This was a time too where like

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he was allowed to have chest hair
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and for some reason even that was
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he has a tail. It is
equal opportunity cheesecake because also Janet Lee is

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topless. It's funny though, too, because like women's underwear back then was

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so much that like, even though
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full pencil skirt because that's what a
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and like a bra that like I've
seen hauls her tops with less fall,

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yeah than this bra that she's in
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like, I guess in nineteen sixty
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But to us, it's like,
yeah, she's wearing more clothes than I

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think I'm wearing right now. Yeah, Like I didn't even it did even

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occurred. I mean it curred.
She looked good, but I was like,

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oh, she's fully dressed. Yeah. John Gaviny, Yeah, that's

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what are Both of our eyes went
straight too. We're like, well,

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hello sailor. Yeah. So the
two of them are enjoying some afternoon delight.

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During her lunch break from work,
Sam tries to get Mary in to

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ditch work for the rest of the
day and stay with him in bed,

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but she demures. I don't know
how, but she demures, since he's

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actually in town for just for business
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She's like, what's the point You're
gonna leave for the airport in an

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hour? Anyway? I'm like,
you can get a lot done in an

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hour. I mean, Marian,
seems like it seems like you're not really

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appreciating what's on display for you,
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another Does this happen in Phoenix a
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I was shocked when I saw Phoenix. I don't know why. I was

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like, Phoenix, it's not a
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see her, and Marian gets out
of bed and just starts getting dressed,

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and she tells him, look,
she's tired of sneaking around. Sam,

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you gotta shit ter get off the
loot. Yeah. God, I wish

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she had said that. That's not
what she said. Oh, Sam,

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please do shit to get off the
pot. She's like, look, I

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want to get married. I'm tired
of sneaking around. He tells her he

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can't marry her until he's out from
all the debts he's under. He has

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got his dead father's debts that he's
still paying off. He's got apparently enormous

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alimony payments to some bitch ex wife
somewhere. He's just praying she gets married

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again. Yeah, and he's ashamed
of the fact that he's poor and he

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owns a hardware story. He lives
in the back room of it. I

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have you have tools like that at
your finger to I'll sleep on a cot

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again. Agreed? Agreed? How
romantic? Oh, a cot in,

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a hardware sword, a shitty town
in California, and a Greek god living

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with me? Like, I would
love to know the backstory of what business

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trip was this guy on in Phoenix? Also, how poor are you if

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you're flying to Phoenix every everywhere?
Like were flights free back then? Where

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they were like were flights of nickel? How like? Like that's a lot

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of money. They just loaded you
into a barrel and fired you off.

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It was the Acme Airlines run by
the road runner Marian says she doesn't care

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that he's broke. She loves him, and Sam knows her too well.

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He knows she'll get tired of being
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So Marion heads back to her job
in a realty office and she manages

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to sneak in before her boss comes
back for lunch and the secretary played by

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Pat Hitchcock. I love Hitchcock,
okay, so much. This is Alfred

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Hitchcock's daughter. Uh huh. She
is so fucking funny in every he puts

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her in a few things. It
is not her only movie of his that

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she's in. She's excellent. And
this is nepotism at its finest. I

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didn't know it was his daughter,
And when I watched her, I was

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like, she's funny, she's kind
of popping. Who is that? Yeah,

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I had like this, and I
didn't look her up because I was

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busy watching Psycho. But yeah,
she only has one scene in this movie,

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but man, does she fucking sell
it. Yeah, totally. So

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the secretary tells Mary and that her
sister called to say she was going to

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be out of town that weekend,
and just then their boss comes in with

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a rich client who just bought a
forty thousand dollars home as a wedding present

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to his eighteen year old daughter,
Erica. Did you do the math?

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I did. Yeah. All you
have to type into Google is forty thousand

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dollars in and it will go nineteen
sixty. It's like, are you watching

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Psycho? You're watching Psycho because that
is four hundred thousand dollars today. Yeah,

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four hundred thousand dollars in cash.
The rich client sits on Marion's desk

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and he tells her he loves buying
happiness for the young ladies in his life.

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He looks like Jr. From Dallas. Basically, if you've seen It's

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a Wonderful Life, it's the man
who plays Sam Waynwright. Okayh He then

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suggestively tells her I could buy you
some happiness, and Marian politely but resolutely

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declines his offer. Look, I'm
not gonna worry about spoilers. Everyone knows

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Psycho. They do a good job
of making you want Marian to steal that

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fucking money. Agreed, that's it. They do a great because this guy

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is such a letch. He's so
creepy. Yep. And the funny thing

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is after he leaves Pat Hitchhik's character
because he was flirting with you. He

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must have seen my wedding ring and
I'm my girl girl. Have you seen

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Marion? The rich client keeps peacocking, and he pulls the full forty thousand

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dollars cash payment out of his jacket
pocket and hands it to Marion. That

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is a fucking move. Yep.
As soon as the client is out of

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earshot, Marion's boss quietly tells her
to put the forty k in the company's

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safety deposit box at bank because the
client's like, just leave it here,

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who cares. I'm my dick is
so big, I have eighteen million dollars

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Like yeah, blah blah blah.
Marian puts the money in her purse.

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She tells her co workers that she's
not feeling well and she's going to go

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straight home after she goes to the
bank. Yep. It's like a Friday

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afternoon. Yep. We cut them
to Marian at home. She's obviously just

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had a shower or something. She's
changing her clothes. She looks down at

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her bed and the envelope with the
money is lying tantalizingly open on her bedspread.

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The camera pans across the room and
we see that Marian is packing a

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suitcase, and now we realize,
Ah, she's gonna run off with that

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money. Run Marian, run,
no, Marian go. As Marian drives

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across town, she imagines the conversation
she's gonna have with Sam when she tells

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him what she's done for him.
She's like, in her mind, he's

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like, Marian, what are you
doing here? And she's like, Sam,

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I have something to tell you.
And she's so distracted by this thing

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that she's concocting in her head that
she almost misses the fact that her boss

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is walking right in front of her
car at an innersect. Unfortunately, he

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does not miss seeing her, and
he like looks right at the car and

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he looks a little bit confused as
to why his quote unquote sick employee is

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in her car instead of at home
where she said she was going to be.

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Yeah, and it doesn't help matters
that no one in this movie knows

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how to be chilled. Yeah,
Marian basically looks like she just her pans

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this. This will be funny the
entire movie. Anytime anyone is caught in

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even the tiniest lide. They're like, what me, How could you think

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that of me? It's like a
fucking Italian pantomime of guilt. And so

404
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:45.200
she's like she sees her boss and
she's like ah, and the boss looks

405
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.839
back at her, and then she
finally like collects herself and smiles and waves

406
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.759
at him and then keeps driving off. I'm like, cool, cool,

407
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.599
cool. I'm sure he didn't notice
anything weird about that exchange. Yep.

408
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.319
She continues driving. She gets out
of town. She keeps driving well into

409
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:02.000
the night, and she eventually pulls
over to the side of the road to

410
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:06.400
sleep. She's eventually startled awake the
next morning by a police officer. She

411
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.680
sits up, also exactly how I
look after sleeping in the front seat of

412
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:14.759
my car for the night. Also, her back isn't hurting at all I

413
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:19.119
slept. She sleeps like perpendicular,
like like legs on the ground, back

414
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:25.920
on the seat if I have slept
that way. Wheelchair yeah, minimum wheelchair

415
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.440
body full body cast the cat the
copy knocking on the window like sit up,

416
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.799
be like I can't. I'm sorry, officer, my hips are now

417
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.200
fused in this position. Yeah,
can I can you toe me to a

418
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.279
hospital. Please, can you please
please take the forty thousand dollars that I

419
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.319
stole. I don't care. I
mean so much pain. Please get me

420
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:45.799
to a doctor and then throw me
directly in jail, But get me to

421
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.359
a doctor first. I am in
a prison of my own making here.

422
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.079
I'm gonna need help me. I'm
gonna need at least four o'clown apin and

423
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:55.200
probably for you to hit me in
the back of the head with something very

424
00:28:55.240 --> 00:29:00.880
heavy so I can go unconscious.
I can't move. I'm gonna need acupuncturist

425
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.440
and a shaman right away. Thank
you, thank you, please, and

426
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:08.799
thank you. So Marian tries to
frankly use her white privilege. She tries

427
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.559
to be a pretty lady and helps
stop Karen's it. I've noticed that too,

428
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.839
She said, I'm sorry, sir, what do you want? Yes,

429
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.640
what's the problem? Did did you
something wrong? The cop leans into

430
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.440
her window, asks her why she
didn't stop at the hotel. She was

431
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.400
tired, and she acts again,
super nervous, no chill at all.

432
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:33.119
I do appreciate the fact that she's
not good at this. To our eye,

433
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.240
it's like overacting, and it is
you're right. It's very funny because

434
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.160
it's like, why this cop is
gonna think you're on like drugs? What

435
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.880
was the drug in the night?
And if it was only her, it

436
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.079
was, but it's everyone in the
movie. Yeah, it's like a world

437
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.000
where no one has ever learned how
to lie, and it's excellent every fucking

438
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:53.039
time. But like her being not
good at this and obviously flying by the

439
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.480
seat of her pants and she didn't
know this forty thousand dollars is going to

440
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.000
fall into a lap until it did
and she just went. She clearly didn't

441
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.839
think it through the movie, I
think is smart about the way they make

442
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:04.880
her not good at this. She
doesn't have a plan, she doesn't know

443
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.559
what she's gonna do. She's just
reacting basically, and she feels bad.

444
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.759
Yeah, she is not a sociopath. She understands what she's done has consequences.

445
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.039
Yeah, the cop eventually lets her
go. She starts driving down the

446
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.680
road and he keeps following her,
and then eventually he takes an exit off

447
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.519
the highway and Marian breathes a sigh
of relief. We're spending just so much

448
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:29.119
time on Janet's beautiful face. Yeah, so far in this movie. Literally

449
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:30.519
she has been in every shot,
I think. And by the way,

450
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.519
like we're kind of breezing through the
movie, but I think we're already like

451
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.440
twenty five minutes in. There's so
much silence, yes, but it's not

452
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.400
wasted time like all that. Like
this, this extended sequence with the cop

453
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.759
following her is so tense and I
didn't write it down. I'm not sure

454
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.599
who plays that cop, but the
casting could not be better. Yep.

455
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.720
Is this big, imposing guy with
almost like a nondescript face, like I

456
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.519
can't I couldn't describe him to you
if I tried, but there's something terrifying

457
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.640
about him. Yeah, he looks
like a failed politician's face, one hundred

458
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.039
percent. Yeah. Yeah. Later
that day, she drives into a used

459
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.680
car lot. She's now in California, and she tries to trade her car

460
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.359
in for a new one with California
plates to try to throw off the scent

461
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.160
of any law enforcement or that's eventually
gonna come after her, right yep.

462
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.319
So she also like grabs a newspaper
and she checks to see if her crime

463
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.640
has been reported, and it hasn't. She tries to move swiftly through the

464
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.000
transaction with the car salesman, who's
this very folksy like, yep, well,

465
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.119
first customer of the day is always
trouble, So tell me what kind

466
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.200
of trouble you're gonna be, young
lady. And he's like, well,

467
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.480
women do like to choose their cars, don't they like Like he's just like,

468
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:37.960
she's like, just that one,
I'll take that one. And he's

469
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.160
like, don't you want to try
it out? I know, I know

470
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.759
my wife likes to chest things out
before she's like, just give me the

471
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:51.119
fucking car. No chill, no
chill. I thought for a second when

472
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:52.039
she pulled up, because I was
like, oh, is she going to

473
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.720
try to switch the license I thought
I realized it was a used car lot.

474
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.119
I thought it was repair shop,
and I was like, is she

475
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.079
gonna like steal the license plate?
You kind of need a plan for that,

476
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:06.759
yeah, Like you know, I
have these tits. I'm going to

477
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.200
distract that guy. You switch these. Also, it's broad daylight. The

478
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.559
whole thing is broad daylight. Right. She tries to move quickly through this.

479
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.680
The salesman keeps asking her a bunch
of questions she doesn't want to answer.

480
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:20.039
He's like, where are you from? What you doing in town.

481
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.519
Blah blah blah. She's like,
just tell me the puppy car. And

482
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.279
then, to make matters worse,
the cop that stopped her in the highway

483
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.559
back back like a little while back, spots her trying to buy a used

484
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:36.240
car and he pulls over across the
street and starts watching her. Yeah,

485
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.640
okay, Like, I know you
don't care for Wes Anderson movies, so

486
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.319
you may not recognize, but like, I see so much of a hitchcock

487
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:46.640
in Wes Anderson movies because the shot
of the cop is perfectly like symmetrical.

488
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:51.839
It looks like a threatening version of
a Wes Anderson movie, Like that could

489
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.640
be Bill Murray leaning against the car. Yeah, she sees the cop watching

490
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:58.799
her and she starts to panic.
So she agrees literally the first price the

491
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:00.839
guy offers her. He's like,
well, how about a if you trade

492
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.160
your old car and I'll give you
this one for seven hundred And she's like

493
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.440
sold and the guy and that really
takes the salesman aback. He's like whoa,

494
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.880
Okay, that's weird. She can't
get off of the lot fast enough.

495
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:16.160
The police officer is like obviously onto
her, and to make matters worse

496
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.400
he pulls into the lot. She
sees him pull into the lot after she

497
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.920
leaves, so she knows now that
those two are gonna talk. Yeah,

498
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.559
and that officer is gonna have her
new license plate number. Yeah, because

499
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.880
that used car salesman. I was
waiting for this to matter. No.

500
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.720
I think that's kind of what makes
the movie genius. It's what there's a

501
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:38.400
lot of, like red herrings,
Yeah, but also like like she is

502
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:43.640
almost caught. Like you can see
the like, for lack of a better

503
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:46.119
term, than the noose tightening around
her a little bit. And then she

504
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:51.799
just manages the land in a situation
that's so much worse. Yeah. She

505
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.720
continues to drive and in a close
up on Janet Lee's face, she's imagining

506
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.920
conversations, right, So she imagines
the police officer and the salesman talking about

507
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.720
her as nightfall. She imagines how
the scenario will play on a Monday morning

508
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.920
when everyone realizes she's stolen the money. You know what, Her boss will

509
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.719
defend her and the secretary will defend
her, but the letch will be like,

510
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.519
no, she has my money.
I have to get her, right,

511
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.800
And then she breaks into a smirk
thinking about how mad that rich Letch

512
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.119
will be and it's been swindled,
which was it was interesting when it started.

513
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:27.880
I actually interpreted it as these scenes
are actually happening, and we're not

514
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.880
cutting away, we're staying with Marion
and that because ultimately, because again I

515
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.079
know, I do know where this
is going, Marian is what matters that

516
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:42.760
all of this is going to literally
become essentially irrelevant in about twenty minutes.

517
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.679
Yeah, and all of this set
up, all this track they lay down

518
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.679
is just to make you think that
we're following Mariyan the whole time. And

519
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.639
then when she smirked, I was
like, Oh, no, she's just

520
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.880
imagining what's going on. She's catastrophizing
or whatever the word would be, like

521
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.519
her reality that she has created.
Yeah, to her choices, choices,

522
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:06.519
choices. I do love that moment
when she smirks, because it's like like

523
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.280
she's a little excited to pull a
fast one on that asshole. Yeah,

524
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:15.280
she sam was there for some RoadHead. Yeah, she feels bad about what

525
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.280
she's done. Her boss, like, we didn't really talk about it.

526
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.400
He seems like a lovely person,
very nice man, a very nice man.

527
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.239
She's screwed over, a very nice
man. And like that the business

528
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:29.039
that she worked for for ten years. And she feels terrible. But then

529
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.719
when she thinks about like this asshole
thing, like that bitch stole my money,

530
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:37.440
She's like, aha, fuck you, fuck that guy forever. Yeah,

531
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.440
it starts ter rain, Erica writes, it starts to rain. It

532
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:45.559
it goes into a downpour. Yeah, so Torrential, those famous California downpource.

533
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.559
And I believe the filming in black
and white is also helping us,

534
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.239
and just like the how they filmed
back then. But she cannot see where

535
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.079
she's going on the road. It
is. It is frightening to watch this

536
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.719
woman, who I know is not
going to get into a car accident,

537
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.599
drive on this road this kind of
it's kind of downpour. She sees a

538
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:07.159
sign for the Baits Motel and she
decides to stop for the night. Yep,

539
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:15.239
no, marian no, no,
run bitch, run the motel.

540
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.360
Let me set the scene in case
you've never seen the film. It's a

541
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:23.119
block of rooms they call them cabins, and there is an office attached to

542
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.760
this block of rooms that are like
parallel to each other. It's just one

543
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.840
level and that's on the bottom of
a hill and then at the top of

544
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.000
the hill is a giant, terrifying
Victorian house. Uh huh, overlooking the

545
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.840
motel. So it's still poor torrential
downpour. Marian pulls up. She runs

546
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:43.800
out of her car and into the
office. No one is there. She

547
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.880
looks up at the house and she
sees the shadow of a very tall woman

548
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.679
walking across one of the bedroom windows. Yeah, she honks her car horn,

549
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:57.880
and a moment later, Norman Bates
played by the unimpeachably wonderful Anthony Perkins,

550
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.400
so handsome in a different way from
John Gavin, so boyishly handsome.

551
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.880
It's it's I don't know if I've
ever seen a better marriage of actor and

552
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.599
role. This is the perfect person, the only person who could make this

553
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.679
role this good. They're using all
of his energy and what he looks like

554
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.760
and what you know, the public
thought of him to suck people into this.

555
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.480
Yes, and like it's fantastic.
Also, we talked a little bit

556
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.719
about this and Bubble without a Cause. We're at this inflection point right where

557
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:30.559
it's like the old old presentational acting
style versus this like new method acting style,

558
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.880
this like hyper realistic, but like
it's funny because to us it doesn't

559
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:39.079
look that realistic anymore, but like
he's doing that the latter and I think

560
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.960
it makes him so natural. Yeah, it adds a level to the film.

561
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.039
It adds a grittiness to this character
that I think works so well.

562
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:51.960
Yeah, and also like a boyish
charm to the character. Yeah. So

563
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.800
Norman comes bounding down the stairs.
Norman is probably twenty two, I would

564
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.199
say very five at the most.
Yeah, very young. And he has

565
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.400
a feminine energy to him. I
may be reading too much into it because

566
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:08.800
I know about Anthony Perkins. Yeah, famous homosexual Anthony Perkins. He does,

567
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.679
right, Am I crazy? He
has like a slightly feminine energy too,

568
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.679
Yeah, or I would just say
like like non threatening, like completely

569
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:21.199
non threatening. I think that's why
he casts John Gavin and Martin Balsom and

570
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.119
the other men that he's cast in
the film as like a It's like,

571
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:29.840
who are hyper masculine to try to
like offset Norman. So he's very earnest

572
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.199
as well, and she immediately feels
comfortable with him, because who wouldn't.

573
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:36.800
He tells me that she can have
any cabin that she wants because the entire

574
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:37.800
motel is empty. He's like,
you want a room? You can have

575
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.639
twelve. Yeah. Marion signs into
the motel under a fake name, Marie

576
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.760
Samuels, and she says she's from
La Norman very purposefully gives her room number

577
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:51.119
one and tells her it's the closest
to the office in case she needs anything.

578
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.559
Oh god, up until this point, if you still don't know what's

579
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.679
going to happen, you're like,
oh, that's nice. He seems really

580
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.119
sweet. He's nice. Immediately take
I prefer twelve. I want to be

581
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.480
as far away from this office as
I would like to be in a place

582
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:10.320
where there are no peoples. Marian
asks if there's a restaurant nearby and finds

583
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.000
out that she's only fifteen miles away
from Sam's hometown. I did. This

584
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:16.440
is a point I didn't know,
And when he said that, I was

585
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.079
like, oh my god, she's
so close. Just get back in the

586
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.400
car and drive there. Stop raining, Marian, keep going. The movie

587
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:28.960
is so smart what it does there, because it stops raining five minutes after

588
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:30.679
she gets there, and if she
just got back in the car and left,

589
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:37.239
she'd still be alive. So Norman
very helpfully checks her into her room,

590
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.400
and he says, you're not going
to go back out because it is

591
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.639
still raining at this point. You
need to go back out in this Why

592
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.480
don't you come to the house have
a sandwich, like I'll feed you.

593
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.760
Like obviously, this is not what
you were planning on doing tonight, And

594
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.119
Marian agrees she is not threatened by
Norman in the slightest. She's exactly what

595
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.960
we said. She thinks he's a
very soft, sweet boy. As soon

596
00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:00.119
as Norman leaves, Marian wraps the
stolen money in a newspaper and places the

597
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.800
newspaper in plain sight on her nightstand, which is actually At first, I

598
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.480
was like, is that the best
thing to do? And I was like,

599
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.800
actually, yes, No one is
going to look at that newspaper and

600
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.840
think there's valuables in there. So
if someone should break into her room for

601
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.360
whatever reason, they would not even
look twice at the newspaper. So Marian

602
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:20.039
is like doing that in her room. The window is open because they're letting

603
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.840
fresh air into the room, and
she hears an older woman's voice yelling from

604
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:29.480
the house on the hill. I
don't want some strange girl in my house

605
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:37.119
having dinner with my son by candlelight
in the cheap erotic fashion cheap eerotic fashion

606
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:42.280
was like my nickname and co cheap
eerotic fashion is my entire sense of style.

607
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.159
Yeah, cheaperotic fashion is what I
aim for now Aha. Cheap eerotic

608
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:54.280
fashion is what I smell like.
It's hard erotic fashion, but it's done

609
00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:04.360
in the Norma Bates' voice, cheap
erotic fashion. By the we hear Norman

610
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.719
calmly try to plagate her. But
mother, she's tired and cold and she

611
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.519
has nowhere else to go, and
it's just a sandwich, and she's like,

612
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.280
keep that whore out of my house. So finally he's like, fine,

613
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:21.079
mother, and you see him grab
a tray of food and like leave

614
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.199
the house and go back to the
hotel with a tray of food for Marian.

615
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.840
Yeah, Marian immediately apologizes for causing
so much trouble. Norman apologizes on

616
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.000
behalf of his mother. He says, she's not herself today, He implies,

617
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:37.519
like she's infirm, she's not herself. She's just a cunt. You're

618
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.280
hot on that word in this bud. That is entirely possible. That's two

619
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.239
Sea words for October Amber and missus
Bates. You didn't think I could work

620
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.679
it into Casper last week, we
worked a lot of terms into Casper.

621
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:54.079
I don't think anyone was respecting last
week. Marian invites him into her room

622
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.760
so they can eat the sandwiches,
but he isn't comfortable being alone in the

623
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.519
room with her. He says,
why don't we go back the parlor in

624
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.679
my office and we can eat there. So they go back. Marion smiles,

625
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.400
how sweet Norman is. So she
walks back them to the office.

626
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:16.000
And she walks into the parlor and
there are taxidermied birds everywhere. Has there

627
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.800
ever been like just even a baseline
normal taxidermist in a movie, Like,

628
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:28.400
we need to write a movie about
a taxidermist who's a real mess. She's

629
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:32.159
a genius taxidermist, but she's personal
life is a disaster, and she winds

630
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:39.119
up meeting like a really sweet angelic
I don't know mor worker, and they

631
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.800
find love and they like, they
like doing everything, but they're just happened

632
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.000
to be a taxidermist and a mog
worker. She's played by Kate Hudson.

633
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:52.800
Uh huh. He's played by James
Marsden. James Marsden. It's called Love

634
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.159
and Death, yeah or something like
that. Yeah, Stuffed full of love

635
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:07.119
love and flight. Oh that's good. So anyway, Marian looks at all

636
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.159
these taxidermy birds and thinks, yeah, sure, still this seems cool.

637
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.519
Yeah, I feel perfectly safe in
this room, no problem. I love

638
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.360
everyone's reaction in the movie to seeing
the birds and everyone goes ah, yeah,

639
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.639
but then they just keep going in
the room. Anyway, So she

640
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.760
eats the food that Norman's brought her
a while chit chatting with him about his

641
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:30.400
unusual hobby of taxidermy. Norman starts
off nervously. He stutters a bit as

642
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.400
he opens up to Marian about his
life, and eventually he warms up to

643
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.280
her and speaks candidly about running the
motel and taking care of his mentally ill

644
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.400
mother. And Marian becomes interested in
Norman and asks do you have any friends,

645
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.159
and he replies, well, a
boy's best friend is his mother.

646
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:52.360
So Marian feels, like we said, super comfortable with Norman, and she

647
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:55.679
opens up a tiny bit to him
without giving away what she's done. And

648
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.039
so the conversation turns to like prisons
of your old making, how your life

649
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.440
can be a prison of your own
making, right, and she admits that

650
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.880
she feels trapped herself and is looking
for an escape, and so they're confiding

651
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.519
in each other, and he feels
like he's made a friend, a connection,

652
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.239
and he leans closer to her and
admits that he was born trapped into

653
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.480
the situation with his abusive mother that
he can't get out of. Then he

654
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:21.840
kind of smiles affably and says,
but you know what, I don't so

655
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.400
much mind my prison anymore, and
she says, but you should mind it,

656
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.519
like I feel really bad about the
way she just treated you, and

657
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.559
I overheard, and then he cuts
her off and says, well, my

658
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:35.079
mother has a very tragic backstory.
First, my father died, and then

659
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.000
she was with a man for years
who took advantage of her and they built

660
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.480
this motel together as part of his
scheme, and then it didn't work,

661
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.239
and then he died horribly. And
Marian's like, oh, I'm so sorry,

662
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.480
and he's like, yeah, So
she's had a lot of problems in

663
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.519
her life, which is why I
feel like I can't leave her. I

664
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.559
have to be there for her.
And he goes and he starts to describe

665
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:59.039
his mother's situation. He says,
if I left her, she'd be alone

666
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.280
all up there in that room.
The fire would go out, it'd be

667
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:06.920
cold like a grave. Again,
when you know what's happening beforeshadowing, it's

668
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:12.559
so good five shadowing, the five
shotow ten shadowing that's happening in this movie.

669
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.559
Marian gently suggests that you can put
your mother someplace, and Norman does

670
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:22.840
it like that. He leans forward. The entire manner switches Yep, he

671
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.599
leans towards her. His eyes are
suddenly wide and says, people always call

672
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:30.079
a mad house someplace, don't they. And he starts to speak as though

673
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.639
he's an entirely different person. HM. And he very intensely says that those

674
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.079
places are hell on earth, and
Maren suddenly very uncomfortable. It's like,

675
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.920
whoa, Okay, I've stepped on
a land mine here and I was there.

676
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:44.159
She apologizes, I didn't mean to
offend you. I'm sorry. Norman

677
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:49.159
snaps back. He's sweet, boyishly
handsome again. He leans back, and

678
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.000
he says, it's not like his
mother's a raving maniac. She just goes

679
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:59.840
a little mad. Sometimes we all
go a little mad. Sometimes. This

680
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:06.440
movie is so good. Norman smiles
to break the tension. Marian relaxes a

681
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.480
bit too, and also she has
a realization from this conversation that she does

682
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.320
not want to live her whole life
the way Norman is living his. She

683
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.400
does not want to always feel trapped, always looking over her shoulder, waiting

684
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:22.039
for the other shoe to drop,
and assuming nothing more terrible happens to Marian

685
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.280
tonight, her whole life trajectory is
about to change. Norman Bates is the

686
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:32.800
best thing that's ever happened to Marian
Crane. She stands up and she tells

687
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.239
him she has to go to bed. She's changed her plans and now she's

688
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.239
going to drive all the way back
to Phoenix in the morning to get herself

689
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.960
out of the bad situation that she
has put herself into. She actually thanks

690
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.039
him, and he says, well, then, all right, good night,

691
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:51.400
miss, and then instead of giving
her assumed name, she says Crane.

692
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:53.639
So now he knows she's going back
to Phoenix, that she's from Phoenix,

693
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:57.239
and her name is miss Crane,
not what she signed in with.

694
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.239
As soon as she leaves, Norman
checks to register and confirms, okay,

695
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.000
so she's she's something something, Something's
up with this lady. So when when

696
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.840
Marian leaves, if I'm not mistaken, it is the first time that we

697
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:13.360
stay with a character, not Marian, like like for this long two hand

698
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.079
or scene between the two of them. There's obviously close ups of Norman that

699
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:20.559
she's not in, but she is
in the scene mm hmm. And watching

700
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.440
it, she like left the room
and the camera stayed with Norman, and

701
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.760
I, as a viewer, even
knowing what was gonna happen, I was

702
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.239
like, Oh, Marian has exited. This is not her story anymore.

703
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:36.599
Yeah. Yeah, And it was
just a very effective directing. You're so

704
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.239
comfortable with her at that point she
leaves on and I had a little bit,

705
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:45.360
oh wow, we're with this creeper
now, because we're also so invested

706
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.000
in like her story. This her
story is interesting. She's not just a

707
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.000
girl in a road in a car, blah blah blah. She's like she's

708
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.760
a thief. She's a lover.
Ye, she's like a wanton lady,

709
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.280
like passionate. She's passionate. She's
made a mistake, but she's gonna fix

710
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.880
it. Like they're so we're so
invested in this story at this point,

711
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.320
and now it's going away. Yeah. So Norman hears Mary and rummaging around

712
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.559
her room, which remembers just on
the other side of this wall. He

713
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:15.559
gave her the room that's closest to
the to the office. He pulls it,

714
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.320
painting off the parlor wall, exposing
a people. Oh no, may

715
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:24.480
day, may day, nothing good
ever starts with the people. I don't

716
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.280
know if you remember this, Like
ten years ago, there was a famous

717
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.440
story that happened in the news because
some motel I don't remember where, like

718
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.440
in the middle of the United States. This married couple owned a motel for

719
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.360
generations. Every single room had peep
holes in them, and these two people

720
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.880
were like watching everyone that was ever
in their motel and like filming them and

721
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:52.159
taking pictures of them. Yeah,
it's It was one of the fucking creepiest

722
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.039
things I've ever heard. Was there
any I don't know if I wanted the

723
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.679
answer to this question. Was there
any purpose to the recording or like they

724
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.119
weren't like selling him or anything.
No, No, it was just for

725
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:07.039
their like personal enjoyment, I believe, so I have. The story is

726
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.840
a decade old, so I don't
quite remember, and I don't even remember

727
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.920
exactly how they were caught, Like
if there was if something happened at the

728
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.280
hotel, the police had to come
investigate and they were like, what are

729
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:21.760
all these cameras? But yeah,
I mean when I remember hearing that story

730
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.679
and being like, oh my god, I will never check into a motel

731
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.880
ever in my entire ever again.
If psycho in do it for me,

732
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:34.320
this story did ha ha uh.
So Norman watches Marian, she takes off

733
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.280
her clothes, she puts on her
bathrobe. He stops himself from peeping and

734
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.840
with a great deal of intention,
walks back to the house and is about

735
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.320
to go upstairs to his mother's room. Then he stops himself at the bottom

736
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.639
of the stairs and with a slow, slouchy walk, he goes into the

737
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:52.000
kitchen and sits at the table by
himself. So something happens here. Norman

738
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.760
has a moment where he's like,
I gotta do something, and he goes

739
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.599
into the house, almost goes up
the stairs, and like we see him

740
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.280
physically stop himself and change his mind
and go sit in the kitchen instead.

741
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.039
This is just ten shadowing. We
just want to mention that because ten this

742
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.840
is ten shadowing. There's a moment
here that like, look, I am

743
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.159
a child, I will admit.
But when Norman looks at the people into

744
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.559
her room, it's like a straight
shot into her bathroom. And it would

745
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.440
have been so funny if Marianne had
been like, good night, Norman and

746
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.559
then run into her room and like
run over into the toilet and be like

747
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:42.559
oh like just lifted up her skirt
and be like, oh god, so

748
00:50:42.719 --> 00:51:01.760
much coffee got roadside Tagos. I
think Norman is just watching in horror,

749
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.800
and she's just like, ah,
ST's do a safety flush. It's really

750
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.840
smelling. Okay, I'm good,
I'm good, I'm good. Wait no,

751
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:28.800
oh Jesus, that went on for
so long. You're gonna have to

752
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:32.719
edit some of that ass. So
that's gonna have to go. Oh my

753
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:40.679
god, just just a attack,
just that bathroom, and he just starts

754
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:45.840
screaming in horror. You can't look
away. She's just like, ah,

755
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:51.679
why can't I stop shitting? We
should actually produce a shot for shot remake

756
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.280
of this, But that is the
end. It's forty it's a forty five

757
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.960
minute shot for shot remake of Psycho. And he's like, you know what

758
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:04.079
I am no longer you're sexually attacked
to you, So I guess nothing happens

759
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.599
for the rest of the movie.
She just checks out. I don't even

760
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:15.000
look at her. Yeah, and
then I burn this motel for something unholy.

761
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:20.880
Here, if you had a poop
attack in those undergarments, you were

762
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.920
in trouble. Seriously, she's got
a fucking garter on. Like, I

763
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.679
don't know. I think you just
have to leave the garments in the bathroom.

764
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.159
I think it's done. We've all
been in the situation where it's a

765
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.719
slide home, you know, like
yeah, where you're like, okay,

766
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.920
seconds away, my body is you
know your body does when once you mentally

767
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:42.280
know you're close, it starts to
release, It starts, it begins the

768
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.239
process. Do you know. I've
had moments in my life where I've had

769
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.320
to pee and I get off the
subway and I am fine, I know

770
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:51.840
I have to go to the bathroom, but it's not it's not an emergency.

771
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:53.920
And then I round the corner and
I just see my building. Yeah,

772
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:59.760
and my body's like time and I'm
like no, I am outside,

773
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:04.639
I am on the sidewalk, and
then it's like it's a very difficult walk

774
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.320
up the stairs, like you have
to go fast, but you can't go

775
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.239
too face yeah, no, And
I'm basically stopping halfway up the stairs.

776
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.639
And like, okay, no,
no, no, no, no ebb

777
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.480
ebb ebb, low tide, low
tide, low tide. Gotta make it

778
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:22.679
just inside the apartment. I kiss
on the floor. It's fine, it's

779
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:28.119
on my own floor, but I
can't miss in the hallway. So anyway,

780
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.320
marying Crane could have been saved by
diarrhea only if only. I mean,

781
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:35.159
she ate something. I don't know
what was on those sandwiches, just

782
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:40.599
dairy bread with butter and cheese is
what she was like nibbling on. And

783
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:44.079
I was like, I don't know
how many of those Chanely had to eat,

784
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:45.960
but that had to be awful,
and she was eating them. I

785
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.480
mean maybe there was a spit bucket
on set, but like she was actually

786
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:55.800
biting and chewing. Yeah, anyway, that doesn't happen. Marying Crane does

787
00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:01.920
not nearly ship herself. While the
gods about roadside tacos, well, Norman

788
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:06.239
bas is like, well, I'll
never be sexually attracted again. The murder

789
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.800
spree has ended. It's over.
It's over. We cut back to Marion.

790
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:14.480
She's doing the math on how much
she's used from the forty K,

791
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:16.760
which isn't It's like seven hundred dollars
or the car and that's it, and

792
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:22.039
gets like two dollars for food.
Yeah, like whatever the hotel costs.

793
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.199
The motel costs. Yeah. She
tears up the sheet of paper and she

794
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:29.639
flushes the paper down the toilet,
which is the scandalous toilet shot that we

795
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.360
get in the film. Exactly nearly
a scandalous of the toilet shot could have

796
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.599
been. We now know Hitchcock was
a pussy. If he had the balls,

797
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.199
he had any artistic integrity, he
would have she would have seen brown.

798
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:47.400
She would have sprayed that bathroom,
the Jackson Pollock, the entire wall.

799
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.559
There was a murder in the bathroom
that night, and it was of

800
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:59.760
the plumbing. She closes the bathroom
door. She gets into the shower,

801
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:05.960
and at first she just seems happy, relaxed to wash this terrible day away,

802
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.400
like they've talked about, like this
is Marian has made the right choice.

803
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.880
Now she's going back, she's gonna
try to she's gonna make a man,

804
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.559
she's gonna return all of the money. This is her baptismal moment.

805
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.039
Right, She's washed clean of her
sins. She looks so happy to be

806
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:21.280
in the shower, right, that's
like I've never looked that happy to be

807
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:25.280
in the shower. I have on
days ninety eight degrees and humid. I

808
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:30.000
get into the shower and it does
actually feel like Jesus himself is chucking it

809
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:31.800
into the chin. That's actually true
now that as I said it out loud,

810
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:34.519
it was like, you know,
when it's wonderful, as when you've

811
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:37.840
been at the beach all day.
Oh and that that first like when it

812
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:42.920
rises all the sand gree Yeah.
Yeah, So now you know what,

813
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.440
Marian, I get it. I
feel you. I feel you, girl.

814
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:47.840
Okay, are you ready, Paul, I'm ready. We're getting into

815
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.440
it. This is the most famous
scene maybe of the nineteen sixties, maybe

816
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:58.119
of cinema, maybe of cinema,
like pretty close to of cinema. Marian

817
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.880
in the shower, enjoy herself washing
the day away. We see a tall

818
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:07.440
figure with a woman's hairstyle, but
like an old, tiny lady's hairstyle,

819
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:13.840
like a like a a messy,
low iron gray bun one hund a schoolmarm

820
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.599
if you will. This tall woman
is approaching from the other side of the

821
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:24.000
shower curtain. Then the music picks
up and the mysterious woman pulls back the

822
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:30.960
curtain, and that's when we hear
that first re re as the woman stabs

823
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:36.159
Marion to death, several stabs.
The scene takes a minute or two.

824
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.559
It's it's it's longer than I expect
it. It's I think, something famously

825
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:44.280
like eighty shots. Yeah, for
like thirteen seconds of film. But he

826
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.199
had to film it because I've seen
that Universal Studios thing. I know a

827
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:51.159
lot about the way this scene was
filmed. He had to film it over

828
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:55.480
and over again, different angles.
That's famously chocolate syrup instead of red dye

829
00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:00.599
for the blood that's going down the
drain. He had to be extremely careful

830
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.480
not to include nipples by accident,
because we're not allowed to have nudity in

831
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:07.639
the sixties, nor pubic hair.
So like you'll see shots of her torso

832
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.599
and her upper chest, but she's
managing to like cover her breasts with her

833
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.760
arm. So it's artfully, tastefully
done, but it had it must have

834
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:21.400
taken days. A few things about
the scene. Famously, janetly never took

835
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:24.119
a shower again after this. Oh
really only baths, according to her.

836
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:30.199
Also, funnily enough, Anthony Perkins
is not the person in this scene opposite

837
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.320
but really he was doing a play
in New York at the time, and

838
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.440
this is the last thing they did
for the film. So he was doing

839
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:38.800
a play in New York. They
couldn't get him back, so it's actually

840
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:43.079
a body double. The whole movie
is shot in black and white. R

841
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:49.519
like for her for Janet Lee to
because you read a lot about like actors

842
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.400
talking about how like if they get
along with their co stars. I don't

843
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:54.000
know that these two got along or
not. I think they did. I

844
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:59.280
never heard anything otherwise. I'm sure
she would have felt safer if she was

845
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.079
doing this with an Athony Perkins and
not I'm sure some very lovely body double

846
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.760
who like she doesn't know, yeah, she's naked in front of and like

847
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:08.920
I doubt they had closed sets back
then. I don't know if all those

848
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:13.320
protections were in play. They actually
did, they had a closed set.

849
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.199
There was like a rumor that they
put cold water on her to get her

850
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.280
to react and that janetly herself is
dispelled and be like, no, the

851
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:21.880
water was warm. They were very
nice to me. They did everything they

852
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.519
could to make me comfortable on set
that day. Like, but it takes

853
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:28.679
a long time. It's a thousand
shots so she is naked all day in

854
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.400
front of a group of men.
Yeah, and I think Hitchcock's wife was

855
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:35.599
on set too, Yeah, like
be like, hey, I'm here girl,

856
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.880
and then a lady over here,
just you know, just in case

857
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:39.360
you need me, I'll be right
over here. Yeah, you're right.

858
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:43.199
I didn't think about that. That
must be really weird because you're like,

859
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:45.000
I know Anthony. I can just
look at Anthony and we're friends, and

860
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:50.800
I know Anthony's not looking at my
tits, so you know, yeah,

861
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:52.800
that had to have been weird.
Yeah. The only other thing I'll mention

862
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.280
is the movie famously was shot in
black and white nineteen sixty. They had

863
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.880
color movie by for like twenty years
by then, so black and white was

864
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.559
a weird throwback. He's filmed it
in black and white because he knew he

865
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.400
was never going to get away with
all the blood in this scene, like

866
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:09.760
they would just be like, Nope, we're never going to show this to

867
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:13.559
this film will never see the light
of day. So he did it in

868
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.159
black and white so that there was
no red blood in the movie and then

869
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:22.760
he could get away with It's a
pretty graphic, violent scene for forty nineteen

870
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.039
sixty yeah, yeah, it's it's
not too even to my eye. But

871
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:30.800
and again it we're all so jaded
to this specific scene that it's it's not

872
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:36.199
ineffective, it's just not it's so
misterily horrifying in the way that it probably

873
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:39.519
was in nineteen sixty and like when
it first came out. So we never

874
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:44.760
see the killer's face. The camera
is stayed on Marian. The focus is

875
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:47.920
on her struggle to overcome her attacker. The scene ends with a close up

876
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:52.199
of Marian's eye. It is a
very long close up and she does twitch.

877
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:58.039
Yeah, the actress, it's impossible
to stay completely still for it's like

878
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.760
twenty seconds the camera pan. She
also grabs the shower curtain and pulls the

879
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:04.920
shower curtain off. Yes, as
she falls, Yes, that's a very

880
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.719
She reaches out almost towards the audience
to be like help me, help me,

881
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:12.039
and then alas, yeah, we
can't help her. Another thing that

882
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:17.840
Brian de Palma stole for the vastly
inferior dressed to kill and way more offensive.

883
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.559
Yeah, dress to kill, way
more offensive. We're going to get

884
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:27.239
into that later. So the camera
pans out from Marion to the newspaper on

885
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.320
the nightstands like almost as if to
say, well, this part of the

886
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.880
story is now over right, And
then out the window towards the house where

887
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:40.400
we hear Norman scream mother, oh
God, mother, blood, blood,

888
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.119
we see Norman run out of the
house. He runs into Marion's room,

889
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:50.159
and he's shocked by the horror show
that he finds in the bathroom. Right,

890
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.079
but he rallies quickly. He doesn't
doesn't run to the tea, to

891
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:59.239
the phone to call the polace,
like my mother murdered someone. Yes,

892
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.840
this seems like not his first rodeo. Yeah, yeah, he switches.

893
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:06.280
He's not as nervous as a virgin
at her first rodeo, as blanched every

894
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:08.559
would say. He switches into cleanup
mode. This, by the way,

895
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:13.119
this is like a ten minute sequence
of the movie with no dialogue. As

896
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:19.239
Norman cleans up the scene. I
wonder if because the scene in nineteen sixty

897
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:22.920
was so horrifying, they needed a
long time to let the audience like simmer

898
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:27.400
maybe, yeah, like pull back, like they can't go past this too

899
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:31.280
quickly, you know. He cleans
the bathroom. He cleans there's like blood

900
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.079
on the side of the tub,
and he cleans it. With a mop,

901
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.400
and I'm like, girl, get
a rag, like what are you

902
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.639
doing? Get a paper towel and
some sprayk clans and also what was like

903
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:44.559
crime scene investigation back then? He
didn't really need to worry about that,

904
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:47.800
monch ha ha. He wraps Marian's
body in the shower curtain. It puts

905
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:51.800
her in all her luggage, including
the forty K which he does not know

906
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:55.199
is in the paper in the trunk
of her car. Okay, first of

907
01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:02.000
all, Norman redress her. You
know your way around bra Okay, Redresser.

908
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:06.119
Drive to a local cliff, put
her into the driver's seat, and

909
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:07.960
just send the car over the cliff. Yeah, that's the move. Well,

910
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.880
wait, but how about how do
you explain the stab wounds if if

911
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:15.920
the car doesn't explode and she just
kind of lands, how do you explain

912
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:19.760
the stab of the move? Dout
the car in gasoline, the forty five

913
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.000
stab wounds in this body. Douse
the car and gasolin. Maybe, like

914
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.639
you know what you do. You
find a sleeping bear and you put it.

915
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:29.119
You put a butcher's knife next to
the bear. You frame the bear

916
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:30.400
for the murder. Yes, that's
how you do it. That's how you

917
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:34.679
do it. Yeah, we saw
that. Okay, So he instead drives

918
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:38.000
the car to the lake. It
is. It is a I wrote this

919
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:43.320
wrong. I wrote nearby lake.
Here it is a pond on the property.

920
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:47.920
It is and bipond. What we
really mean is five square foot puddle.

921
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.639
It's maybe an Olympic size swimming pool, not even not even close to

922
01:02:54.639 --> 01:03:00.239
an Olympic It is half at most
of an Olympic sized. Yeah, it

923
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:02.840
is the pool of a lakina in
Yeah, exah, it is a lakina

924
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:08.239
in mud pit. He drives this
car out. He pushes the car into

925
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:13.239
the mud, and he watches the
car slowly slurps and slorps back down into

926
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:16.519
the mud. It stops briefly,
and Norman gets really nervous, and then

927
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:21.159
it continues to sink and he smiles
with the relief and as Erica writes,

928
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.840
here something akin to pride, right, like his manner changes. Yeah,

929
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:28.920
we cut to Sam's hardware store.
Oh, thank god Sam's back. I

930
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000
was so excited. I was like, we may never see like he's now

931
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:37.039
vestigial to the plot really, and
I knew her sister was showing up,

932
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:38.280
but I was like, we may
never see Sam Lumis again. Oh no,

933
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:43.599
we'll see Sam again. Well,
we won't see is a shirtless Sam,

934
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:45.159
which I'm a little I'm like she. Veer Miles should have walked in

935
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.159
there and been like, are you
Sam Loomis? Take your shirt off?

936
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:51.199
I need to verify. There's only
one way for me to know this.

937
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.400
I need to see on nipples.
Saha. Do you have a small tuft

938
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.280
of hair on your lower back that's
somehow hot back hair? Yes? Done?

939
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.400
Hello Sam, Hello, I'm Sam, I'm Lailah. We've met,

940
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.320
but my sisters told me everything about
I enjoy your little tufted tail back There.

941
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.000
A few days after the murder,
he's in the back room. He

942
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:13.119
is writing a letter to Marian,
asking her to come and live with him,

943
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.320
to be like, I was wrong. I don't care if we're poor,

944
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.800
we'll be happy if we're together.
It's a very if you pause and

945
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:23.360
read the letter, it's very cute
and very sweet. Mary and sister Lilah

946
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:27.320
played by the great Vera Miles,
enters. She's carrying a suitcase. She's

947
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:29.559
concerned. Yeah. She comes in. She's like, are you Sam?

948
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.519
She asked the boy running the register, like the fifteen year old boy doesn't

949
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:36.840
have a hypen her sister's sexual appetite, and the boy's like, no,

950
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:41.239
that's Sam. And then this Greek
god comes out from the back and she's

951
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.559
like got it, yep, okay, dionis makes more sense, understood,

952
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:47.079
understood, Now what's happening here?
And she's like are you Sam? And

953
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.719
he's like, yes, who are
you? I'm Mary? And sister tell

954
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:55.199
me where she is and he's like
I don't know. And Sam's like,

955
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.320
what is going on? Why are
you here? Why are you so frantic?

956
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:03.239
A moment later, a private detective
enters. His name is Milton Arbagast.

957
01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:08.800
What a name for a fairly small
role. I thought I'd be annoyed

958
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:11.840
writing the word Arbogast over and over
again. I was not. You know,

959
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:15.599
it's funny every time Barbagast sounds like
the name of one of the cats

960
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:23.199
and cats. Ahaa, I'm all
be cast the dumpster cast. Yes exactly,

961
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:29.679
I'm arbagas the curious cat. I'm
allb cast the cat. You see.

962
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:33.599
It's Cemeteries for some reason. So
he is played by Martin Balsam,

963
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:38.119
wonderful actor. Lyla's like who are
you He's like, I'm a private detective,

964
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.519
and she's like, how did you
find us? He's like, I

965
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.559
followed you yea, and she's like, you followed me. I didn't know

966
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:45.159
you were following me. He's like, I wouldn't be much of a detective

967
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.159
if you did. I'm a private
detective. Everything about this scene I love

968
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:51.280
it is so snappy. Meanwhile,
these two are arguing why is there a

969
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:54.559
private detective? What are you doing? And then Sam's like, who the

970
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:59.119
fuck are you people? What is
happening? Mariyan's been missing at this point

971
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:02.000
for a week. Sam squears he
has no idea where Marion is. Lila

972
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:06.400
starts to get really worried. Barbagast
is less believing of Sam. He's like,

973
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:10.800
look, I know what's happening here. That Tots he stole the money

974
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:14.760
she's paying off your debts. I'm
gonna search this town high and low until

975
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.840
i find her. So he starts
combing the town for Marion. Arbagast's search

976
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:24.760
eventually leads him to the Bates Motel. Norman is completely at easy At first,

977
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:28.599
he offers the detective a room.
He's chatting casually with him, very

978
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.320
similar to the first meeting with Marion. As soon as Arbagast pulls out a

979
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.079
picture of Marion starts to inquire about
the missing woman he's looking for. Norman

980
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:40.400
gets nervous. Now Norman has less
of an excuse for not being good at

981
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.360
this. That's how you know Sam's
telling the truth that other scene, because

982
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.880
he doesn't. He's not acting crazy. But the minute anyone starts to li

983
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:49.440
in this movie, they're like,
who, I don't know, what's a

984
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:54.880
person? I've never seen one.
Arbagast catches the inconsistencies in Norman's story.

985
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:59.639
It's kind of studying him curiously,
and he asks to see the motel registry

986
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:02.000
and instead of saying there is it
one, or it ran away, or

987
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.719
we keep our register on the local
cow we brand names there like I,

988
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:13.000
Norman shows our bigas to registrate and
the detective immediately finds Marie Samuel's in Marion's

989
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:15.760
handwriting, which she has a sample
of. At this point, Norman's like,

990
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:19.639
oh, oh, that woman,
that woman. Did you know that

991
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:23.280
picture you showed me is in a
very good picture. It's like the clearest

992
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:28.320
full frontal face picture, like she
had wet hair that night, and uhh,

993
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:30.679
yeah, it's not a very good
picture. Is and Barb Gas is

994
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:34.920
like, I guess it feels like
this is your fault. So Norman incredibly

995
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:39.760
suspiciously starts to stutter and sweat,
and he's piecing bits of the real story

996
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:42.199
together with lies, like, yes, she came in the middle of the

997
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.519
night, but she left the next
morning really quickly. She said she had

998
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.480
to go back to Phoenix. Yeah, and that was all I know about

999
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:49.199
her. Arbigas is like, did
she go straight to bed? Did she

1000
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.960
make any phone calls? And Norman's
like, nope, didn't make any phone

1001
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:56.199
calls and she definitely went straight to
bed. And Arbagas is like, did

1002
01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:59.760
you spend the night with her?
Yeah? Like jokingly, but then Norman's

1003
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:01.960
react action. He literally looks like
he's been hit with a stun gun.

1004
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:09.320
He's like what And arba Gast's like, well, that's a weird reaction.

1005
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.320
I'm joking. I'm just saying,
hey, how do you know she went

1006
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:14.840
straight to bed? And Norman's like, she told me she was going to

1007
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:20.319
stop asking me questions one people.
I mean, damn. So our Bagat

1008
01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:25.760
now is like, Okay, here's
what's happening. He thinks Norman is hiding

1009
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:30.199
a marian that they are in on
this together, and he comes right out

1010
01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:32.399
and asks, hey, did that
girl jar your honorable intentions? Are you

1011
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:36.600
trying to save her? Ye?
Norman laughs a genuine laugh because he's like,

1012
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:42.359
she is definitely not at the motel. Ye, no way, her

1013
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:46.600
body nobody I mean is at the
motel. He's like, look, if

1014
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.600
you want, you can even inspect
all the rooms. They have twelve empty

1015
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:53.479
cabins here. Our baguest is like, okay, thank you, No,

1016
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:55.760
I don't need to inspect the rooms. And then he looks up at the

1017
01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:00.520
house and he sees a woman's shadow
in the bedroom window. First, this

1018
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.800
is important that we see a woman's
shadow and Norman, yeah, not at

1019
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:08.800
the same place at the same time, and he sees a woman's shadow in

1020
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:12.159
the bedroom window, and he asks
Norman again, are you hiding Marian.

1021
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:16.640
Norman more forcefully says no. Arbigas
warns Norman that if he is hiding Marian,

1022
01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:20.079
she's just making a fool out of
you. Yeah, like she's using

1023
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:24.000
you. You are not gonna let
yourself be used by some TUTSI are you?

1024
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.439
Are you, sir? Pop some
girl, some some thief, some

1025
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.239
lady thief. Norman starts to get
really angry, and he does that thing

1026
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.319
again where he kind of switches personalities. Huh. And he says, no

1027
01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:38.319
woman can fool me. And even
if Marian did fool me with her feminine

1028
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:43.359
wiles, she didn't fool my mother. Whoops. Our big Gass thinks that

1029
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:45.720
Marian must have spoken to Norman's mother, the woman he sees in the window,

1030
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:47.760
and he insists, I need to
speak to missus Bates. Oh,

1031
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:51.520
oh, your mother knows something about
Marian. Maybe she told her something woman

1032
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:55.560
to woman. I need to talk
to her right away. And Norman's like,

1033
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:58.720
absolutely not. Get the hell off
my property. Yep. Arbagast calls

1034
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:00.520
Lilah. He tells her that he
he believes that Sam is telling the truth

1035
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:04.000
about now hiding Marion. He's gonna
go back to the Baits house and interrogate

1036
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:08.439
missus Bates. I'll be back in
fair Vail in about an hour. So

1037
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:11.479
this, remember I said earlier,
there's a part that is genuinely suspenseful for

1038
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.800
me because I didn't know what was
going to happen. I was like,

1039
01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:17.159
I don't know what's gonna happen to
Arbagast. My money is on he ain't

1040
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:21.000
making it, huh, because he's
poking around and he doesn't really know where

1041
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.840
he's poking around in. I would
say the next five minutes are the actual

1042
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.920
scariest part of the movie. Yeah, only because we all know the shower

1043
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:30.199
scene. Yeah, people don't know
this scene, and this scene is truly

1044
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.800
scary. Yeah. We see Norman
enter one of the motel rooms to change

1045
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:39.560
the linen just as Arbagast comes back. He arrives again. Arbagast enters Norman's

1046
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.920
office, he checks Norman safe,
it's empty. He goes up to the

1047
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.039
house. He just lets himself into
that big Victorian manse on the hill.

1048
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:48.640
He starts to climb the stairs and
we see a bedroom door at the top

1049
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:53.720
of the landing creak open and light
comes out of the crack. The camera

1050
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.119
cuts back to Arbagast. He's like
just getting to the top of the stairs

1051
01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.920
and the music he lets us know
that something terrible is about to happen.

1052
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.359
So this is an interesting shot.
It's almost shot from above. It is

1053
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:06.279
shot, yeah, not almost.
It is shot from above, and we

1054
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:11.920
see a woman in a long,
old fashioned dress with the school marm Haricott

1055
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.439
run out of the room and stab
Arbagas in the chest. He falls down

1056
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:19.079
the stairs. The woman runs down
and continues to stab him until he's dead.

1057
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:24.680
We never see her face exit.
Arbagas. Yes, and now the

1058
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.079
worry of what's going to happen to
Sam starts. Ah, they can't kill

1059
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:30.840
Sam. Can we get a wellness
check on Sam? Can I just need

1060
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:34.600
to know how Sam and his tufted
tail is. Take your shirt off,

1061
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:40.439
Sam, I need to check for
stab wounds. Are you bleeding? We

1062
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:44.600
cut back to Sam's hardware store.
It has now been three hours since Ourbigas

1063
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:47.279
called and said he'd be back in
an hour. Lila is really concerned.

1064
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:51.000
She wants to go to the Baits
motel and investigate, but Sam decides that

1065
01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:56.039
one of them should wait in case
Arbigas comes back, so he drives out

1066
01:11:56.239 --> 01:12:01.079
to find Arbigas at the motel.
Concern for Sam rising right. We cut

1067
01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:05.319
back to the motel. We see
Norman doing his whole bullshit at the pond.

1068
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:09.720
How deep is it? Just?
Is it just an incredibly deep pond.

1069
01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:14.960
It's like a chimney, just a
sinkhole. It's akhole. The property

1070
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.880
is on an actual sinkhole. There
is like fifty cars down there from the

1071
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:24.359
people this family has murdered. The
pond. It is the size of a

1072
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:27.439
car. The car barely fits in
it. And now we got two.

1073
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.039
We've got at least two cars.
These are nineteen sixty cars. These are

1074
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:35.439
not tiny little like practically a land
boat fishing cars like a Chevrolet station wage

1075
01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:41.119
from the eighties. Ah, So
we have Norman looking at the pond as

1076
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:46.319
another car goes into it, and
he hears Sam's voice at the other side

1077
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:50.079
of the property echoing out our Bagas
name. He's like Barby gass Haarbagas and

1078
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:54.159
that's it. That's all we see
here. Sam comes back to the hardware

1079
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:58.039
store. He says there was no
sign of Barbagas or Norman at the motel,

1080
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:00.479
and he saw the shadow of an
old lady in one of the house's

1081
01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:03.800
windows, and he knocked and knocked
and knocked, but no one answered the

1082
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.880
door. So Sam thinks the lady
was too old and sick to come to

1083
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:11.760
the door. He and Lilah decide
to go to the local sheriff because now

1084
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:15.159
like their fucking detective is missing too, what happened? So they go and

1085
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:17.479
they wake up the sheriff in the
middle of the night and his wife up,

1086
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:20.319
I didn't write down the actors' names. But these two actors are so

1087
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:26.560
funny and so good. They small
town yeah no account sheriff and his like

1088
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.680
sweet dotty wife, yeah no.
Notes. They also, like they had

1089
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:32.359
said earlier, they were trying to
avoid going to the police because they were

1090
01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:34.960
hoping that Mary would just return the
money, and the guy had agreed to

1091
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:39.279
like not press charge, like they
yeah, to be like all kind of

1092
01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:41.880
swept under the ruck, right right, that's right. They can't. They

1093
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:44.840
didn't want to go to the police
because Marian has also committed a crime at

1094
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:47.319
this point. So after they tell
the sheriff everything they know up to this

1095
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:51.880
point, he posits that Arbigass got
a hot lead on Marian and took off

1096
01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:55.520
without telling them. Lila is not
so sure. She's like, look,

1097
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.720
that guy felt sorry for me.
He wouldn't not call me if he knew

1098
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.640
something about my sister, Like yeah, So she says, something is wrong

1099
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:05.399
at that motel. We have to
investigate. The sheriff calls Norman. Norman

1100
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:10.279
lies and tells them Arbigast was here, but he left hours ago. I

1101
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:14.079
have no idea what's happening. There
is a moment in this scene where they

1102
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:16.319
go but you know, we need
to talk to missus Bates and the sheriff's

1103
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:20.239
wife goes, oh, Norman took
a wife. Yeah, and they're like,

1104
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.720
no, his mother, and it's
kind of glossed over. I just

1105
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:27.039
want to say that I love Lila. Lilah is a great character. She

1106
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.560
gets none of the love for this
movie. I mean she's overshadowed by Janetly

1107
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.520
and Anthony Perkins, which is their
better roles. But like Lylah has moxy

1108
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:36.319
Llila doesn't take no for an answer. Lah's gonna find her fucking sister.

1109
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:42.079
The character holds up to today's scrutiny
as far as not being like a fainting

1110
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:45.279
damsel in distress, because it's so
easily could have just been Sam and Lila

1111
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.720
being like oh Sam all the time, and it is not. You know.

1112
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:53.800
Actually Sam is the one who's kind
of useless. Yeah, throughout,

1113
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.920
And I mean no one who looks
like that is actually useless. There's always

1114
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:00.680
a use for him. Okay.
So the sheriff and the wife are like

1115
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:05.079
Norman's mother a right, what are
you talking about? And Lilah insists,

1116
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:09.319
like, look arbigast said, there
was a woman at the house that was

1117
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:13.399
Norman's mother. And the sheriff and
his wife informed Lylah and Sam that Norman's

1118
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:18.920
mother died ten years ago in a
murder suicide. It's literally the only thing

1119
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:23.319
that's ever happened in this town.
It's kind of funny that Sam doesn't know

1120
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:27.279
about it. Yeah, so it
turns out she had a lover, she

1121
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.520
found out he was married, and
so she poisoned him with strychnine and then

1122
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:34.000
took it herself. And then poor
Norman, who at the time must have

1123
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:40.439
been twelve fifteen years old at most, found their bodies together in bed,

1124
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:44.600
like, ooh, terrible, terrible
story. Sam is like, but I'm

1125
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.720
sure I saw an old woman in
the window of that house. And then

1126
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.239
the Sheriff's like, well, if
it's not Norma Bates, which is her

1127
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:54.760
name. Yeah, it's not Norma
Bates. I don't know who the hell

1128
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:57.920
that old woman is, but it
ain't the woman we buried ten years ago.

1129
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.079
We cut back to the motel.
We watch as Norman enters the house

1130
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.479
and goes up to his mother's room. The camera stays in the stairs outside

1131
01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:10.399
her room, on the landing where
she killed Arbagast, and we hear Norman

1132
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:13.640
and his mother argue He tells her
she needs to hide in the fruit cellar

1133
01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:15.239
in case the police show up,
and she refuses to go. I'm not

1134
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.560
going into that fruit seller. You'll
think I'm fruity son. You're the fruity

1135
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:25.640
one. Apparently he's hit her there
in the past, and she doesn't like

1136
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.640
it, which I mean fair,
it's cold, and hearken that cellar.

1137
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:34.840
No Norman, no cheap erotic fluozies
to entertain me. Eventually, under great

1138
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:39.520
protest, Norman ignores her orders and
picks her up, and we go back

1139
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:43.439
to that same shot from above,
and we see Norman carrying this old woman

1140
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:48.439
in the outfit that we saw the
person murder Arbagasta and so this all checks

1141
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:51.800
out, carry her down the stairs
and into the fruit cellar. The fruit

1142
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:55.560
seller would be a good name for
like an underground gay bar. Oh my

1143
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:58.960
god, I'm a great name it
fruit mee me at the fruit Cellar.

1144
01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:01.479
Yeah, haha, it's key.
We night at the fruit Seller. Let's

1145
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:06.319
go get ourselves a new Zealander.
The next day, the sheriff tells Lyla

1146
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:11.079
and Sam that he investigated at the
motel that morning and he didn't find out

1147
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:14.439
anything new about Marian than what Arbagast
had found. He also tells them that

1148
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:16.760
there's no sign of any older woman
living at the house. He's like,

1149
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:20.760
I talked to Norman myself. No
one's there with him, just poor Norman

1150
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:26.359
all alone up in that terrifying Victorian
house. Sam and Lyla decide to go

1151
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:29.840
to the motel and investigate for themselves. What they think has happened is that

1152
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:33.359
Norman has kidnapped Marian to steal the
forty thousand dollars. They still think the

1153
01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:38.319
original crime is afoots. They go
to the hotel. They pretend to be

1154
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:42.239
a married couple and check into a
cabin at the motel. At first,

1155
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:48.319
Norman doesn't suspect anything unusual about them, even though a Sam insists on seeing

1156
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:54.079
the registry and Lila's eyes keep darting
around the room like she's looking at everything,

1157
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:56.760
and Norman is like, la,
Ti da, no big deal.

1158
01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:00.600
Then when he's like, well,
let me get your luggage, they say

1159
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.079
we don't have any uh huh,
And now Norman's figured it out. He's

1160
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:06.239
like, fuck they are here to
snoop. Sam and Lilah wait until the

1161
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:10.199
coast is clear, and then they
go into Marion's room and look for clues.

1162
01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:13.399
Lyla finds a scrap of paper near
the toilet that says forty K and

1163
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:16.039
has some subtractions on it. You
said near the toilet, doesn't They say

1164
01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:18.720
it's in the toilet, okay in
the movie. I think she says it

1165
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:23.319
didn't flush all the way down right. I wrote near the toilet because I

1166
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:27.079
refuse, I just refuse to believe
you're gonna fix the movie. I'm fixing

1167
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:30.960
the movie because there's no way a
scrap of paper in the toilet just sits

1168
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:35.319
there for a week, soaking wet. Yeah, and like you can still

1169
01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:43.359
legibly read forty thousand minus seven hundred, like fuck off movie. This convinces

1170
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:45.479
them that they're on the right track. Marian was definitely here and she was

1171
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:49.359
doing something with the forty thousand dollars. Is all very suspicious. They decide

1172
01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:54.520
to split up. Sam says I'm
gonna go keep Norman distracted in the office,

1173
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:56.680
and Lylah says, well, I'm
gonna go up to that house to

1174
01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:58.960
talk to that old woman. And
Sam is nervous, and Lyla's like,

1175
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:00.199
look, I can handle a stickle
woman. Get out of my way.

1176
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:04.319
I love moxye, I love Moxy
Im my ladies. So Sam had like

1177
01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:08.479
distracts Norman. He goes into the
office with Norman, and Lilah sneaks into

1178
01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:12.279
the house. She goes up.
I don't know why she didn't head directly

1179
01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:15.680
for the kitchen to go a frying
pan ley cru say, come on,

1180
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:20.399
what have we talked about? People? The only mistake Lilah makes, Yeah,

1181
01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:24.560
truly, the only mistake. Otherwise
she's otherwise, she's perfect. Also,

1182
01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:27.199
they should have brought some goddamn luggage
to the hotel with them. Come

1183
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.079
come on. So she walks into
the house. She gets up to missus

1184
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:34.880
Bates's bedroom. It is insanely ornate. It looks like Louis the sixteenth lives

1185
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:39.720
there, but also like old Lady
is at the same time. Huh.

1186
01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:43.800
It's so creepy. It's very weird. It has like an enormous bust of

1187
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.079
like Diana or someone. And she
walks in like who sleeps here? Haha?

1188
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:54.760
Who was Norma? Yeah? They
had that TV show Baates Motel to

1189
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.840
kind of go into the backstory of
Norma so that you understand where Norman is

1190
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:00.880
coming from a little bit. Part
of me likes knowing that, and part

1191
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.039
of me doesn't I just like,
I like just seeing this room and like

1192
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:09.760
extrapolating and being like, oh,
okay, now I'm understanding Norman a little.

1193
01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:12.159
I'm getting a little bit more.
Yeah, got it, I get

1194
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:15.880
it. Look, I'm not saying
killing people is right, but but I

1195
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:19.319
see where, I see how it
happens. Yeah. Yeah, so Lylah

1196
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:23.880
even notices there's an indentation of a
woman's body on the bed. It's as

1197
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:28.600
though missus Bates never left the bed, like it's permanently pressed down in.

1198
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:32.039
Yes, yeah, creepy. Yeah, the only thing missing is missus Bates

1199
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:35.119
herself. So Lyla goes to the
rest of the house. She's looking for

1200
01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:40.000
him. She goes into Norman's bedroom. All his childhood toys are still in

1201
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:44.000
it. The score is again no
dialogue. Score is amping up, tension

1202
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:45.399
is amping up. What's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? What's gonna happen?

1203
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:48.760
Yes? Also, like, if
you thought Norman's room was creepy,

1204
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:55.000
might I introduce you to Norman's room, terrifying bedroom of childhood. Nick Knacks

1205
01:20:55.439 --> 01:21:00.520
a grown man with like, yeah, freaking marionettes in his room. Ah.

1206
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.920
Meanwhile, we cut back to Sam
Oh, Sam baby, you're so

1207
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:10.680
pretty, but you're so stupid.
Huh. He's displaying no chill in his

1208
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:14.960
plan to create a diversion. Yeah, all you have to do is walk

1209
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.000
in there and be like, so
those Dodgers huh? Am I right,

1210
01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:23.520
so funky weather we've been having am
I right? Oh my voye's taking a

1211
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:25.960
nap and on board? What do
you like doing in Fairvale? Yeah?

1212
01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:29.600
Where should we go next? So
that Rita Hayworth, she's a dish am

1213
01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.920
I right? Like literally, that's
all he has to do. But instead

1214
01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:39.439
he's like, you must be very
lonely here. Norman's like not, or

1215
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.560
I'm good Norman for some reason,
well no, not for some reason,

1216
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:45.760
because he knows Sam's on to him, stays there and tries to deflect and

1217
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:47.800
deflect, and he's like, I'm
fine. I love my life, I

1218
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:51.319
have no problems. And Sam's like, how much money would you need to

1219
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:57.800
get out from under this place?
Forty thousand dollars. At that point,

1220
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.800
Norman is generally like, what the
fuck is happening? Why did you talk

1221
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:04.560
about forty thousand dollars? Is everyone
talking about forty thou did I throw away

1222
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:11.000
forty thousand dollars? Buck eventually Sam, because he's so pretty but so stupid.

1223
01:22:11.399 --> 01:22:15.520
Lets it slip that Lilah's gone into
the house to talk to missus Bates

1224
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:18.520
and that's what Norman's like, mother. And the two of them start to

1225
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.479
tussle because Norman tries to run out
of there and Sam tries to hold him

1226
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:26.079
back. Norman grabs I don't remember, it's like an antique box thing.

1227
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:29.560
Yeah, like a weird antique box, hits him on the head, knocks

1228
01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:31.199
Sam out, and then runs into
the house. Yeah, no shade on

1229
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:35.680
the movie for this, but the
moment where Sam gets knocked out as well

1230
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:42.000
as as good as the knife has
worked, this is very funny. This

1231
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:47.000
does not look real at all.
Kunk. Yeah. Lilah sees Norman running

1232
01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:51.239
towards the house and she's like,
oh shit, So she hurriedly goes down

1233
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:58.439
the stairs into the fruit cellar,
which is bumping disco balls. I'm coming,

1234
01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:01.479
Oh different fruit seller. Sorry,
it's two for one night at the

1235
01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:10.159
fruit Seller. Come on. She
finally twinks drink free after eleven. It's

1236
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:15.159
bare night at the fruit celler.
It's fruitfly night at the fruit Fellow.

1237
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.720
What kind of game is a fruit
fly? Oh? Wait, fruit flies

1238
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:23.880
is actually a thing. Yeah,
fruit fruit flies. Fruit Flies is another

1239
01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:29.439
term for a hag, which is
a term that's generally frowned upon. That.

1240
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:30.960
Yeah, we don't. We don't
like hag. We don't care for

1241
01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:35.239
that. Yeah, oh fruitfly,
that actually is cute. You know what

1242
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:42.920
I'll identify in case you heard a
loud clap, Erica just just pulled a

1243
01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:47.439
fan out of nowhere that is emblazoned
with cartoon death becomes her. I will

1244
01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:50.760
take a picture of this one on
the Instagram and started fanning herself with it.

1245
01:23:51.319 --> 01:24:00.840
Fruitfly. So Lilah creeps into the
fruit cellar and there she finally meets

1246
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:08.159
Missus Bates, who is just a
skeleton of Norman's long dead mother. This

1247
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.760
is terrifying. Yeah, the skeleton
is sitting back to the like towards the

1248
01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:15.880
facing the wall. As she thinks
it's a person, So she walks up

1249
01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:17.640
to her and she's like Missus Baits
and she taps her on the shoulder,

1250
01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:23.039
and then the chair she's in swivels
around. Yeah, and then the skeleton

1251
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:27.000
of this like long dead, realicaated
corpse, it's not even a skeleton.

1252
01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:30.039
It's like there's like a husky skin
on it. Yes, it looks it

1253
01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:35.399
looks like beef jerky. Yeah.
Oh it's so scary, fossilized kaffy.

1254
01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:43.039
Ough. Oh, she screams,
fair, fair Yeah. Norman runs into

1255
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.960
the cellar. He's dressed in one
of his mother's dresses and a wig.

1256
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:49.560
He's brandishing in a knife and he
screams, I'm normal, baits and he

1257
01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:55.600
moves to stab Lilah. Luckily,
beautiful, beautiful Sam has woken up.

1258
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:59.199
It's finally made himself useful. Finally
made himself useful. He rushes in just

1259
01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:01.840
behind Norman and manages to subdue him
as we kind of like zoom in on

1260
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:08.720
Anthony Perkins's maniacal face. Yes,
his twisted face. He's playing something really

1261
01:25:08.760 --> 01:25:13.800
weird here. Rage but also like
going in and out of two personalities at

1262
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:15.600
once or something. I don't know
what. It's a lot to ask an

1263
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:18.479
actor to do. I'm not saying
he one hundred percent nails it, but

1264
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.399
I don't even know how you could
nail I don't know what. I have

1265
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.920
no notes on it, Like what
would you do differently? Like, yeah,

1266
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:28.479
he looked because there's a there's a
he looks like he's in pain.

1267
01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:32.399
Yeah, a Rictus Grin. Yes, let's talk about this scene because this

1268
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:34.600
is very famous. First of all, I want to say one thing.

1269
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:39.680
When I saw this film at the
Philharmonic a few years ago, clearly like

1270
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:43.199
forty percent of the audience had never
seen the movie. So it was a

1271
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:45.680
lot of like people who brought like
a date there or like their kids there

1272
01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:47.920
or something. They're like, oh, we should see Psycho together at the

1273
01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:51.760
Philharmonic. And like during the shower
scene, no one said anything. During

1274
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:57.119
the arbigast scene, you had a
few gaps. Yeah, when this happened,

1275
01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:01.800
people in the theater went, yeah, like forty percent of the house

1276
01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:05.560
went, oh my god. Yeah, they did not know this was coming.

1277
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:11.640
Excellent. Yeah, So this scene
is just it's iconic and it's important,

1278
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:15.640
right, Like it's truly terrifying.
Yeah it is. It happened so

1279
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:18.640
quickly. U huh. And like
there's also one other cool thing Hitchcock does,

1280
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:21.880
where like Vera Miles hits the light
bulb. Yeah, so you a

1281
01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:25.159
lens flair. Yeah, you get
a lens flair, and then you get

1282
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:28.479
just like light and dark, light
and dark happening because the light is like

1283
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:30.239
moving around the room. What did
you think when you saw it. It

1284
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:33.000
was great. And also I had
read they that to do this scene like

1285
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.960
so many times to get that light
hit right. Oh, I will admit

1286
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:42.199
I did not the mother thing I
found scary. And then I literally just

1287
01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:44.800
had time to be like, Okay, I know, I know what it

1288
01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:46.560
is. I know what's going to
happen. Yeah, when are they going

1289
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:50.159
to do it? And they rebusted
it in that like as RuPaul would say,

1290
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:57.680
quick drag school marm. She Yeah, the look of the look is

1291
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:00.880
weird. I had a moment of
like almost, oh my god, that's

1292
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:02.680
a little funny, and I think
that took the teeth out of it for

1293
01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:04.680
me. And then like one then
I was like, holy shit, is

1294
01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:09.199
he Is he gonna kill Lilah?
Is she? She? She could die

1295
01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:13.039
conceivably because now the sheriff knows something's
going on. So this could be a

1296
01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:17.520
situation where Sam and Lyla die and
the sheriff shows up yeah and catches him

1297
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:21.399
or something. Yeah, but she
didn't, So like then it got scary.

1298
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:25.520
But that first moment where he like
pusted and he's like I'm noma bait,

1299
01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:28.439
So I'm like, oh god.
I also think there might be some

1300
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:33.680
what like in nineteen sixty seeing this
person dressed in drag let's call it drag

1301
01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:36.920
for now. Yeah, that must
have been a that must have added a

1302
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:44.680
level of fear because it's so different
from anything you've seen before, and it's

1303
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:50.159
so menacing because it's it's a young
it's a young man dressed as an old

1304
01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:56.319
woman and like angry. Yeah,
there's so there's so many combinations of images

1305
01:27:56.359 --> 01:27:59.800
and of like things happening all at
once that I don't know. It's so

1306
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.239
I didn't find it funny. I
found it really really scary the first time

1307
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:05.399
I saw it, where I was
like, what the fuck am I looking

1308
01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:09.880
at? And I grew up.
I'd seen drag queens, I've seen you

1309
01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:13.359
know, funny versions of men dressed
as women, you know, like and

1310
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:16.279
so this to me wasn't funny.
This to me was like it added an

1311
01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:23.439
extra level of like everything about this
is somehow wrong, yeah and off kilter

1312
01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:27.199
and like and none of this is
fun you know what I mean? Like

1313
01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:31.520
yeah, yeah, yeah, because
there's nothing very like celebratory about Norman being

1314
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:36.079
his mother. It's horrifying. Yeah. Yeah. We cut to the county

1315
01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:40.880
courthouse where Norman is being held.
There are a couple dozen towns people waiting

1316
01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:44.760
outside to find out what the fuck
happened at the Bates Motel tonight. Inside

1317
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:47.560
the building, Lila, Sam,
the sheriff, the chief of police,

1318
01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:53.680
they're all there. They asked the
psychiatrist, doctor Richmond played by Simon Oakland,

1319
01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:56.920
frankly the hardest working man in show
business. For the next three minutes,

1320
01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:02.439
this scene is interminable, Yeah,
terminable. I this might be anecdotal.

1321
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.319
I don't know, but I had
read somewhere or maybe someone told me

1322
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:10.199
one time that this scene was shoehorned
into the movie to explain what the fuck

1323
01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:13.960
was happening, huh, Because Hitchcock
was like, well, isn't it obvious,

1324
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:17.479
and like test audiences were like,
no, no, it's not obvious.

1325
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:20.000
I would like to know what the
fuck just happened, What the fuck

1326
01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:24.520
is actually happening, And so they
had this, like they wrote this like

1327
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:30.600
scene as a coda to fucking explain
everything that had just happened in the movie

1328
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:35.439
to the audience. It's a meeting
that could have been an email, you

1329
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:40.880
know what I mean. So the
doctor is there to he has interviewed Norman.

1330
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:45.119
He's going to explain to everyone,
wtf was going on. He says,

1331
01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:48.960
Norman Bates is no longer with us. He is now Norma Bates,

1332
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:54.199
his mother. Very, very long
story, as we said short, Norman

1333
01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:58.399
had a psycho sexual obsession with his
own mother, so when she took a

1334
01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:01.119
lover he couldn't hand. He murdered
them both in a jealous rage. So

1335
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:04.600
it was not a murdered suicide.
It was a double homicide. Dune done

1336
01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:10.039
done, a mattricide again at twelve
or fifteen, which, according to the

1337
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:15.560
doctor is the absolute worst thing a
son can do. Yeah. He then

1338
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:18.159
felt so guilty about what he'd done
that he began to become his mother,

1339
01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:21.720
forming a split personality. That way, she was never dead, She's never

1340
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:26.840
dead life. Yeah. Whenever Norman
became attracted to a woman, his mother,

1341
01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:30.840
the mother half of his personality,
couldn't handle her jealousy. Because Norman

1342
01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:33.960
can only process the world through what
he thinks everyone else would feel, so

1343
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:39.199
he thinks his mother would be jealous
of him and would then murder the woman,

1344
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:41.960
which is what happened to Marian and
possibly what could have happened to the

1345
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:44.560
two other missing girls in that town. Yeah. That moment, the doctor

1346
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:45.720
turned to the sheriff and he's like, do you have make missing cases?

1347
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:49.079
Yeah? And the Sheriff's like two
girls and he's like, yeah, I'd

1348
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:54.720
checked that, Pond. I checked
that mudpit out back. There's a whole

1349
01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:58.760
school bus with the cheerleaders back there. And also Norman wanted to fuck our

1350
01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:04.680
bigas canonically now canonically, so could
we cut it so short? The scene

1351
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:10.039
is so long. It's like seven
minutes of this doctor explaining, and there's

1352
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:13.840
some interesting stuff in the scene.
We should probably talk about the elephants in

1353
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:16.159
the room here, right. I
think that the first thing I would say

1354
01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:20.600
is that while they are not,
I think they do a decent definition of

1355
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:26.520
transvestite in the scene. It's I
realized that too. One of the officers

1356
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.199
says, oh, okay, so
he's a transvestite. Yeah, and the

1357
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:33.279
doctor's like, no, that's not
what transvestite isn't is I don't know if

1358
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:38.840
it, it just isn't there,
And so he explains in nineteen sixties parlance,

1359
01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:42.279
yeah, what a transvestite is,
and it's it's not the worst step

1360
01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:45.600
for nineteen sixty it's it's pretty good. But I think it should be acknowledged

1361
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:50.600
that whether or not the movie does
successfully do that. The people who catch

1362
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:56.079
the backlash for this is still a
transgender community, so it's still not a

1363
01:31:56.119 --> 01:32:00.000
great example for them and for the
violence that they are current like trying to

1364
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:04.720
protect themselves from like this, this
is a part of that quilt that pop

1365
01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:12.239
culture has always portrayed transgender people as
violent outcasts, you know, all of

1366
01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:15.920
that stuff. So so acknowledged,
but also acknowledge that the movie does specifically

1367
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:20.159
say that's not what this is.
Yeah, this ain't no j Edgar Hoover,

1368
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:26.199
Yeah, exactly. This is a
whole other thing. This is a

1369
01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:31.279
split personality disorder. This is a
psychotic break. There's there's just a lot

1370
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:35.119
happening here. Yeah, And so
as you acknowledge, yes, but also

1371
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:41.279
the movie is very clear like Norman
is not They don't get into his sexuality

1372
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:45.000
outside of his obsession with his mother. Yeah, yeah, like it's it's

1373
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:48.159
not it is not putting it on
like the queer community in any way.

1374
01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:55.399
Even though again the backlashes felt from
so many of these types of movies then

1375
01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:58.760
becoming a thing, and I wonder
if this was like it was not the

1376
01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:02.239
beginning of gay people and transit of
people being like feared in that way.

1377
01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:05.880
But like this was perhaps the first
time it was dramatized, and then people

1378
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:10.079
like Brian Depalmer were like, what
a great idea. I know, I

1379
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:13.319
can show snooch like do it,
baby, No, leave it, leave

1380
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:16.279
it to the professional. Let's not
do that. Brian de Palma. I

1381
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:25.199
think also nineteen sixty like the concept
of transgender vacency. Yeah, like most

1382
01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:27.800
people would be like, I have
no idea what that means. What do

1383
01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:30.159
you mean, Oh, there are
people that do that. That's you know,

1384
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.520
like like they would not have that
concept in their heads. They might

1385
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:36.279
have a like the conception of transvestite. They might be like, oh,

1386
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:41.560
I get it, he's one of
those homosexual transvestites. Yeah, And I

1387
01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:44.199
do love that the movie is put
the kabash on that and is like,

1388
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:46.640
Nope, that's not what's happening here. We are not putting that out there

1389
01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:49.920
into the world. I don't know
if it's a progressive thing, if the

1390
01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:55.399
if Hitchcock was like, we have
to put that in there, or if

1391
01:33:55.439 --> 01:34:00.239
the it's just the movie wanted to
be as I'm trying to think of the

1392
01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:05.920
word like medical as possible in the
description of this character. Although I like

1393
01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:11.600
I don't know how like medical,
the rest of the shit is like,

1394
01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:15.520
I don't know that this happens very
often. It doesn't seem like a common

1395
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:19.640
thing. Yeah, like where someone
like disassociates their own their own personality and

1396
01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:23.079
then creates the one of their mother. Like yeah, to be clear,

1397
01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.560
all gay men do that. Oh
of course, that's what makes you get

1398
01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:30.720
But but it's not mother like your
mom. It's mother. You know how

1399
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:34.720
I feel about that term America.
I don't care for it. Everything is

1400
01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:42.800
mother, Everything is mother, mother
is mothering. Shut up, fruits fruit

1401
01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:46.279
flies. So yeah, there's just
there's just so much here and we want

1402
01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:54.439
to acknowledge like the science quote unquote
yes it's not actual at all, but

1403
01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:59.159
they do do that service, I
think, to the very real community that

1404
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:01.640
people would have about at the time, which transvestites, right, Like,

1405
01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:05.840
oh okay, so it's not that
it's something else. Yeah, I know

1406
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:11.319
Anthony Perkins was very involved, like
he was never out while he was alive,

1407
01:35:11.399 --> 01:35:15.560
but like he did champion LGBT causes, and I wonder if maybe he

1408
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:19.119
had a hand in that of being
like can we make this clear here,

1409
01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:23.680
Yeah, that's not what this is
like you know, and I'll put it

1410
01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:27.159
this way. It was not as
directly offensive as I was expecting it to

1411
01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:33.560
be. Yeah, I agree,
it's the society has caused this to age

1412
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:40.520
poorly because of our reaction to that
community and to the queer community in general.

1413
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:44.720
But I don't think the movie had
that intention. Agreed, Agreed,

1414
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:47.319
Yeah, I think that it's a
fun misdirect. The movie thinks it's a

1415
01:35:47.319 --> 01:35:53.039
fun misdirect. You are expecting there
to be this homicidal female running around,

1416
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:56.359
this old woman who seems in firm
one minute, but then is like hale

1417
01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:59.640
and hardy and killing people the next. Yeah, and then it turns out

1418
01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:01.640
to not be the case, And
it's the actual scariest thing you can think

1419
01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.000
of. It's like, it's like
a young man who's keeping the corpse of

1420
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:12.800
his mother like preserved in her bed, and then like and then taking on

1421
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:16.880
her personality. Like it's it's so
much scarier than where you think it's going

1422
01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:20.720
to go. Okay, now we're
gonna come to the actual scariest scene in

1423
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:26.600
the entire movie easily. We cut
to one of the uniformed officers bringing Norman

1424
01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:30.960
a blanket because he's cold. As
he enters the room, where Norman is

1425
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:33.479
being held. The camera stays in
the hall outside. We don't go into

1426
01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:38.319
the room with the officer, and
we hear Norma, the mother's voice,

1427
01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:43.399
thank the officer for the blanket.
Thank you so much. Right. The

1428
01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:47.319
officer leaves, and then we cut
to inside the room and we see Norman

1429
01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:51.039
sitting there like on a bench with
a blanket around his shoulders, and we

1430
01:36:51.119 --> 01:37:00.399
hear in voiceover Norma's voice as the
camera pans slowly to Norman's face. Throughout

1431
01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:03.359
the course of like thirty seconds,
we hear Norma be like, I had

1432
01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:08.239
to convince the police. It wasn't
me. I know it's wrong for a

1433
01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:13.119
mother to convict her son, but
I can't go to prison. Norman needs

1434
01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:18.239
to go away. He's always been
bad. Then a fly lands on Norman's

1435
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:21.720
hand and he looks down at it, and we hear Norma's voice say,

1436
01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:28.720
that's right. I won't even swat
the fly away. They'll know I'm just

1437
01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:33.920
an old, old woman and I
couldn't even hurt a fly. And at

1438
01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:40.760
that moment, Norman or Anthony Perkins
looks back up at the camera at the

1439
01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:45.800
end of the speech, and it's
a tight close up as he smiles directly

1440
01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.680
into the camera, and we see
the evil face of Norma Baits. We

1441
01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:56.199
see him performing Norma Baits, and
then there's a quick shot, almost imperceptible,

1442
01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:00.239
of a skull superimposed on his face
as he keeps smiling right at us.

1443
01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:09.960
Yeah, fade to black mothers.
Mothers, Am I right? It's

1444
01:38:10.319 --> 01:38:15.680
fucking hitting. Is It's scary on
a completely different level of anything else.

1445
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:19.840
Yeah, because it's Anthony Perkins selling
the fuck out of that moment. Yeah,

1446
01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:24.079
the sweet boy is gone. Yeah, it's this evil, evil woman

1447
01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:28.000
in there now. Yep, yep, all right, stick around. We

1448
01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:30.760
are going to come right back with
our random observations and final rankings for Psycho.

1449
01:38:33.159 --> 01:38:36.920
All right, Erica, we are
back. Any final little eights that

1450
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.239
you want to share with the with
the listening audience. Any stabbings, any

1451
01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:45.760
stabbings. We gotta acknowledge it.
The famous Hitchcock sighting in the film.

1452
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:48.760
That's right in this film. Did
you spot it? I did? I

1453
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:53.119
did? I forgot to look honestly, Yeah, so he he always looks

1454
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:56.079
right at the cameras. How you
can, even if it's a crowd scene,

1455
01:38:56.079 --> 01:38:58.439
which it usually is, you can
see him. I don't know if

1456
01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:00.199
he always looks at the camera,
but he usually does in this one,

1457
01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:03.600
he does. He's standing outside the
realty office when she comes back in from

1458
01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:10.000
her afternoon sex rump with with Sam, and he's wearing a ridiculous looking stetson

1459
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:13.960
hat because the film is in Phoenix. You know what, I would not

1460
01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:17.119
be surprised if the film was originally
set somewhere else and then Hitchcock bought him

1461
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:19.760
off of stetson hat was like,
I need an excuse to wear this.

1462
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:28.800
We're gonna go to Phoenix. We're
moving the stairs. There's a couple food

1463
01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:32.399
metaphors in the movie, very nineteen
fifties, very nineteen fifties food. The

1464
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:36.520
first one is if it doesn't gel, it is an aspic, which was

1465
01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:43.279
which was kind of fun and quirky. The second one is just disgusting.

1466
01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:49.279
It's as hot as fresh milk.
We are talking about the fresh milk directly

1467
01:39:49.319 --> 01:39:53.840
from the utter. Yeah, yeah, who says that? Is that the

1468
01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:57.760
used car salesman. It's the lech. It's the rich letch, the one

1469
01:39:57.840 --> 01:40:00.680
who's forty k it actually is.
Yeah, it's ah, it's Sam Wayne

1470
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:04.079
Wright from It's a Wonderful Life.
Oh yeah, oh, it's hot as

1471
01:40:04.159 --> 01:40:08.760
milk out there. It's hot as
fresh milk. Well now I'm never having

1472
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:12.439
dairy again, so thank you.
So yeah, that will do wonders for

1473
01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:16.760
my figure. Well, speaking of
food, there's a runner through the movie

1474
01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:21.439
where Norman is always eating. Did
you notice that every scene he's chewing on

1475
01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:26.000
something. I think it's a couple
of things. One, it's it's usually

1476
01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:30.640
candy in the movie, which I
think is supposed to signify how like infantilized

1477
01:40:30.680 --> 01:40:33.680
he is, like how he sees
himself as a little boy always. But

1478
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:36.880
also I kind of wonder we talked
a little bit about that during the like

1479
01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:43.560
James Dean Rebbel Without a Cause episode
about how like that oh that method acting

1480
01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:46.239
style, and like they almost always
felt like they needed to have some bit

1481
01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:53.119
of business to feel more natural.
And I wonder if that was ancestor and

1482
01:40:53.159 --> 01:40:56.039
Brad Pitt has picked up on it. I kind of think that might be

1483
01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:59.880
part of it. For Anthony Perkins, that's his like entre into the characters.

1484
01:40:59.880 --> 01:41:02.000
He's always he's always chewing on something, He's always having a little snack.

1485
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:09.239
Yeah, we left out one of
my favorite uh missus Bates lines when

1486
01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:14.680
she's talking about the cheap erotic fashion. She also mentions that strange girl's fine

1487
01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:18.720
soft flesh. Really, that's on
us for not realizing this is all Norman

1488
01:41:18.800 --> 01:41:23.279
all the time, Like if you
didn't figure out from just that line and

1489
01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:26.399
that's not an actual woman, Like
that's not the old lady, you're like,

1490
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:29.960
come on, come on now,
that's that's that's Norman in his like

1491
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:35.079
cheap erotic fantasies. Yes, exactly, fine soft flesh. Her firm talked

1492
01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:45.359
bosom or buzzom is taught as this
score. I love how people in older

1493
01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:47.920
movies kiss. In the scene at
the beginning of the movie with Sam and

1494
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:53.560
Marian when they're they're kissing in the
motel room, it's that like old timey

1495
01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:57.920
kiss of like their their chins are
swushed together and they're talking to each other

1496
01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:00.960
while their chins are actively touching,
and they're like, we can't do this,

1497
01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:04.119
Yes we can. I love you, I love you, And it's

1498
01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:09.520
so hilariously over the top, and
like just the way all people kissed in

1499
01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:12.720
older movies was excellent. It's a
whole skill into itself. I think there

1500
01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:15.479
was like an actual rule that kisses
couldn't be longer than like ten seconds or

1501
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:18.920
something. And so that's how people
like, that's how like directors got around.

1502
01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:21.600
It is like they're not kissing.
Just shug your chins together. It's

1503
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:25.199
hot, don't worry. Their faces
are touching. It feels weird, but

1504
01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:28.640
it looks great. It's weird again. I hate to bring it up again,

1505
01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:30.800
but it's a wonderful. Life is
a wonderful. One of those where

1506
01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:33.039
it's like they're not kissing. You
can't dig us for this, Yeah,

1507
01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:38.880
but boy, their face is touching
for a while. I only have one

1508
01:42:38.920 --> 01:42:41.800
more. So marian Us to walk
around with forty thousand dollars in cash,

1509
01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:45.319
which again is the buying equivalent of
four hundred thousand dollars just in her fucking

1510
01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:48.920
bag, her fucking bag, I
would be a mess. Talk about poop

1511
01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:54.000
attacks. When we bought our wedding
rings, I had to bring like cash

1512
01:42:54.079 --> 01:42:59.119
to something and it was like three
thousand dollars and I you would have thought

1513
01:42:59.159 --> 01:43:01.479
I was on heroin. I was
sitting on the subway like sweating. You

1514
01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:04.640
took the subway. I would have
taken a car with what money. All

1515
01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:10.640
my money was going to this jeweler. I would have taken an armored vehicle

1516
01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:13.199
if I could have. And I
think I actually think it was more than

1517
01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:15.000
three thousand dollars. I don't remember. I know it was a lot of

1518
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.760
fucking money. I didn't care for
it. Yeah, walking around with fine

1519
01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:21.479
jewels in my bag ha ha,
sweating like a horror church. Sure I

1520
01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:26.239
am. I know why I'm Southern
in this situation because it's funnier. Yeah,

1521
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:30.359
everything's funnier if you're Southern. I
just have one more and this is

1522
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:34.039
I'm gonna go back to Caroline,
the secretary played by the Great Pat Hitchcock

1523
01:43:34.079 --> 01:43:38.000
at the beginning of the film.
Yeah, there's a bit of dialogue that

1524
01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:41.920
I that lives rent free in my
brain. So Marian comes back to the

1525
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:44.760
office. She says she has a
headache, and Pat's like, oh,

1526
01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:48.279
here, take one of these,
and she pulls out a bottle of tranquilizers.

1527
01:43:48.359 --> 01:43:50.760
Yes, she says, tranquilizers from
her purse. And she's like,

1528
01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:56.079
they're tranquilizers. My mother gave them
to me for my wedding night. And

1529
01:43:56.239 --> 01:43:59.239
Marian looks horrified. Sometimes I'm like, okay, I'm glad, we're all

1530
01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:03.239
we're all all well on board that
that's the fucking worst thing you've ever heard

1531
01:44:05.239 --> 01:44:11.479
Paul? How should we rank Psycho? One to ten? Hot tufted tails,

1532
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:16.800
John Gavin, John Gavin, We
salute you, John Gavin. Cheesecake,

1533
01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:21.119
Shine me up. I'll have two
slices. Aha, I'll have mine

1534
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:25.079
with whipped cream. You know what
I'm saying. I do One to ten

1535
01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:32.600
absolutely destroying the shitter at a motel. Just checking in and then checking in.

1536
01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:36.600
That saves your life. Yeah,
a life saving diarrhea, A life

1537
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:41.079
saving diarrhea attack because the man who
was sexually attracted to you and therefore must

1538
01:44:41.159 --> 01:44:45.399
murder you sees you shitting for five
minutes straight and is like, nope,

1539
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:48.960
I'm good, totally good. That's
good. Yeah. One to ten.

1540
01:44:49.039 --> 01:44:56.560
Taxi Germist rom coms Ah starring Emma
Stone and Andrew Garfield. They're back together,

1541
01:44:56.640 --> 01:44:59.079
you guys, get back together on
the screen at least, yes,

1542
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:03.960
Emma Stone's taxidermist. He's the more
worker, delightful starring Zin Daya and Tom

1543
01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:10.720
Holland. Tom Holland might be able
to do Norman Bates, but he's very

1544
01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:14.840
tiny. That actually might but that
works in the favorite Garfield. Oh my

1545
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:17.479
god, Andrew Garfield like he's a
little older now, but like twenty five

1546
01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:24.439
year old Andrew Garfield could have fucking
nailed Norman Bates. Actually, yeah,

1547
01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:30.520
one to ten. Cheap erotic fashion, fine soft flash and cheap erotic fashion.

1548
01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:38.840
Candlelights in that cheap erotic fashion,
tramps vixens. You disgusting boy,

1549
01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:44.199
Go go cleanse yourself in the pond. I don't care that it's full of

1550
01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:48.560
metal this one. Do you want
to go first or should I go first?

1551
01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:53.800
I'll go first first. This is
one of my all time favorite films.

1552
01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:57.760
Yeah, I'm gonna give it a
lot ofly way because it was filmed

1553
01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:01.720
like decades before I even born.
Yeah, and so, yeah, there

1554
01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:06.119
are no people of color in the
film. Well, everyone's white. John

1555
01:46:06.159 --> 01:46:10.880
Gavin is Hispanic. Yeah he's white, but he's Hispanic. That's kind of

1556
01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:13.439
cool. But of course the movie
doesn't engage with that. It's not like

1557
01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:21.800
his name is Huan Yea, yeah
exactly. So yeah, like it's it's

1558
01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:27.600
not diverse. Gay content is dicey, yeah, dicey. But I will

1559
01:46:27.640 --> 01:46:31.319
give the movie this amount of credit. I don't think it thought it had

1560
01:46:31.359 --> 01:46:35.159
gay content in it. I think
it was trying to turn the lens away

1561
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:39.760
from it. I think the movie
was trying to create a situation where an

1562
01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:45.159
audience was had to keep guessing because
the two suspects to all these murders were

1563
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:50.319
so diametrically opposed, and then it
accidentally stumbled into this minefield. Yea of

1564
01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:57.239
possible, like trans hate crime.
Yeah, but it's genuinely I think stumbled

1565
01:46:57.239 --> 01:46:59.920
into it. Yeah, unlike Dressed
to Kill, where they definitely thought of

1566
01:46:59.920 --> 01:47:02.319
it and got it all wrong one
hundred percent. I'm gonna give it a

1567
01:47:02.359 --> 01:47:06.920
little more leeway I think on that, because again, it is the pop

1568
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:12.199
psychology of nineteen sixty is also all
kinds of wrong. Yeah, but that's

1569
01:47:12.199 --> 01:47:15.319
because it's the pop psychology of fucking
like sixty years ago. Yeah. Main

1570
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:19.319
character. I still think the main
character is Marian, because even though she

1571
01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:25.800
disappears halfway through the movie, her
disappearance is still the reason for the rest,

1572
01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:28.920
Yeah, exactly, And she's still
a character in the film in a

1573
01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:31.079
way. Her loved ones are the
ones who are keeping her alive. I

1574
01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:35.159
would say the main character is Marian
Crane and not Norman Bates. I know

1575
01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:40.399
that's a that's a like I would
call them co leads. I think a

1576
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:43.399
lot of people would disagree with me. Because Norman Bates is the iconic character.

1577
01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:46.199
It also doesn't help or it does
help. I suppose that Anthony Perkins

1578
01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:50.079
is giving like the performance of a
generation. Yeah, that is unacknowledged,

1579
01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:55.039
I think by in its time,
but is truly one of the all time

1580
01:47:55.079 --> 01:48:00.239
great performances ever put on film.
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it

1581
01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:04.239
a seven. Okay, I'm gonna
give it a seven out of ten cheap

1582
01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:12.800
eerotic fashions because I think it comes
by its mistakes very honestly, and it

1583
01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:17.439
is I don't believe trying to cast
dispersions on a group of people. I

1584
01:48:17.479 --> 01:48:23.600
think it is creating a mystery,
and it stumbles into those aspersions. Ye.

1585
01:48:23.880 --> 01:48:27.960
And because it's nineteen sixty, there's
no voice in the room that's like,

1586
01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:30.520
excuse me, hi, we're raising
my hand here. I don't think

1587
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:34.760
we should do this. Or let's
talk about like the ramifications of this.

1588
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:39.640
Maybe there was someone, which is
why that one line was put in there

1589
01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:43.439
about the transvestite when the cop is
just like, ah, it's a transvestite

1590
01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:45.840
and the doctor is like, Nope, this is what a transvestite is.

1591
01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:49.560
What we are looking at is not
that this movie is really a movie about

1592
01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:54.560
someone with multiple personality disorder, right, which is what we would have called

1593
01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:58.640
it back then. That's actually what
we're watching, not a movie about someone

1594
01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:03.079
who is transgender or even a transvestite. Right. So yeah, I'm gonna

1595
01:49:03.079 --> 01:49:08.359
say seven out of ten. Not
perfect obviously. I mean, killing women

1596
01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:11.840
is bad. We shouldn't do that, and it's generally frowned upon, kind

1597
01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:13.840
of a problem to put it in
a film. But I do like that

1598
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:16.119
the second victim is Arbigast. Yeah, there's only two victims in the film.

1599
01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:19.359
Yeah, and the unnamed earlier victims. But you know, but what

1600
01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:24.640
are you gonna do? Well?
Those poor cheerleaders anyway, But the Arbigast

1601
01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:28.880
is also killed. And so it's
not just women, not just like young

1602
01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:33.680
naked, prone women being killed.
There's a little bit of some diversity in

1603
01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:39.239
the Killers. It is a little
bit of yeah, exactly of equality I

1604
01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:42.359
suppose in the Killings. How about
you? Uh, yeah, I tend

1605
01:49:42.359 --> 01:49:44.600
to agree, like I think that, you know, we were talking about

1606
01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.079
how long that last scene is.
I had enough time to actually say,

1607
01:49:47.119 --> 01:49:53.000
are they actually not going to say
the word like transvestite or gay or something

1608
01:49:53.039 --> 01:49:55.920
like that, or homosexual or whatever? They would have said back then,

1609
01:49:56.359 --> 01:50:00.520
he's temperamental, you know. And
then it goes on for songs like I

1610
01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:02.840
guess they're not gonna acknowledge it at
all, and then they do and they

1611
01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:09.239
kind of like again offer not a
perfect explanation, but one far more accurate

1612
01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:13.039
than I would have expected. Yeah, So, because I was surprised by

1613
01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.239
that, maybe I am even more
inclined to be more forgiving than otherwise would.

1614
01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:18.479
But I agree with you. I
think the movie, the people who

1615
01:50:18.479 --> 01:50:21.279
made this movie, and the people
who first watch this movie would not even

1616
01:50:21.319 --> 01:50:27.000
have had the vocabulary to understand what
they were doing. So I'm inclined to,

1617
01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:30.199
like, I'll be more lenient with
my judgment of it. Whereas,

1618
01:50:30.439 --> 01:50:32.239
just to bring it up again,
Brian to palmert and just dressed to kill

1619
01:50:32.680 --> 01:50:36.239
would have had something available to him
where he could have spoken to someone about

1620
01:50:36.239 --> 01:50:39.880
what he was doing, and it
seems like he didn't. It's a full

1621
01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:44.000
twenty years later he knew what he
was doing. Yeah, Yeah, so

1622
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:47.720
I'm inclined to be forgiving of it, even though it's gonna cause some harm.

1623
01:50:47.960 --> 01:50:53.039
It is one of the most iconic, like man dresses up as a

1624
01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:58.479
woman and kills people, images,
and that's a trope, and that trope

1625
01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:02.960
is a big problem, right and
and people are suffering because in part because

1626
01:51:02.960 --> 01:51:08.279
of it. Right, you give
it a seven. I will agree with

1627
01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:12.359
you, because I don't really see
anything else to knock off points for,

1628
01:51:12.600 --> 01:51:15.680
Like it's not diverse. I don't
think anybody is expecting a movie nineteen sixty

1629
01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:18.920
to be diverse. Lord even only
knows if like that would even have been

1630
01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:24.880
allowed on certain levels, Like certainly
Sam could not have been a black man,

1631
01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:29.960
and that's a different film. Yeah, like maybe maybe Arbagast could have

1632
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:32.600
been a black man maybe, but
like or or or a you know,

1633
01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:38.720
a person not a non Caucasian person. Yeah, I'm not gonna ding it

1634
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:41.319
for that. No one, no
one with a brain is watching the film

1635
01:51:41.359 --> 01:51:43.560
from nineteen sixteen. Me, Like, I bet I'm going to see a

1636
01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:47.479
united colors of benettona presented to me. So I think the only the big

1637
01:51:47.560 --> 01:51:50.319
ding is that, you know,
you gave a seven. I'll give it

1638
01:51:50.359 --> 01:51:55.319
a six, So we'll we'll we'll
balance it out. I think six,

1639
01:51:55.640 --> 01:51:58.840
knocking all four points for that is
is fair. Yeah, so a six

1640
01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:04.319
out of ten cheap fashions one would
get from Michaels of Hollywood for Psycho.

1641
01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:09.319
But I'm not going to offer a
palate cleanser like I. It's a great

1642
01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:12.359
movie. It's a great movie,
right, Yeah, it's so good.

1643
01:52:12.800 --> 01:52:15.760
Yeah, it's so well made.
It's so clean. There's like there's not

1644
01:52:15.880 --> 01:52:19.640
a bit of fat on it.
Every minute counts towards what's going to happen

1645
01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:24.039
next. Yeah, it's it's well
made. It's just a great movie.

1646
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:28.720
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1647
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1660
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1661
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didn't stop laughing, and I was
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1662
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I'm going to keep going, and
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1663
01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:27.680
funny. It's funny every time.
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1664
01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:30.800
you just if you give me even
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1665
01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:33.199
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1675
01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:20.279
hearing from none other than Agent double
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1676
01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:23.479
I got a break. I got
a message from Moneypenny that I have to

1677
01:54:23.479 --> 01:54:28.880
come here and thanks someone named Kayla
or Feisty Feisty. I knew someone named

1678
01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:32.079
feisty ones. Feisty Ravine was her
full name, and she was a wild

1679
01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:35.159
cat. Do you think this is
the same? No, no, you

1680
01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:40.039
well, there's no need to shake
your head so vigorously, your fay little

1681
01:54:40.079 --> 01:54:43.960
fruit cocktail. It was an honest
question. Why don't you tell your friend

1682
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:45.880
over there to smile more and give
me the paper you want me to read?

1683
01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:50.560
All right? Thanks to Feisty not
Ravine. Although Feisty, if you're

1684
01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:56.399
listening, send me a telegram.
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1685
01:54:56.520 --> 01:54:59.680
for a recommend You're gonna die out
there. This is a coded message for

1686
01:54:59.760 --> 01:55:02.600
money Penny. That's the mission command. I've got all shit now, look

1687
01:55:02.640 --> 01:55:05.760
what you've done. You've gotten me
thinking about Feistier Ravine and I jumped up,

1688
01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:10.319
and now my panties are split open
like a rotten cantelope. Call money

1689
01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:14.000
Penny immediately, tell her to air
drop me a pen that turns into a

1690
01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:16.359
gun, a gun that turns into
a pen, and of course no fewer

1691
01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:20.119
than a baker's dozen pairs of panties. And be sure to contact me if

1692
01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:24.279
Feisty Ravine should get in touch,
and don't you try to handle her,

1693
01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:28.079
fancy boy, she'll ruin you faster
than my panties get ruined on a stag

1694
01:55:28.199 --> 01:55:34.279
night in Amsterdam. Agent double OW
panties out. Ha wow, thank you,

1695
01:55:34.439 --> 01:55:40.560
Agent double O panties. You lead
a very intricate life. There's a

1696
01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:43.520
lot going on, so much happens. You'll give balls in the air,

1697
01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:45.880
and not just the ones from his
panties. Yeah, he gets more done

1698
01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:48.880
in a minute than I do in
a month. It's fair, frankly.

1699
01:55:49.279 --> 01:55:53.960
He is the kind of secret agent
you want defending the realm, you know.

1700
01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:57.359
Yeah, And now we also we
have another guest. We have we

1701
01:55:57.399 --> 01:56:02.720
have fan favorite, truly truly fan
favorite, Catherine Hepburn. Thank you so

1702
01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:08.720
much, Peter, for that introduction. I'm here once again to thank Astrid

1703
01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:14.720
for listening to that Aged Well.
Spencer. Spencer, make sure Scarsdale puts

1704
01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:18.159
lavender in the martinis, otherwise it
is not a French martini. I just

1705
01:56:18.199 --> 01:56:24.079
want to thank Astrid for listening to
that Aged Well, the podcast that teaches

1706
01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:29.159
me things every week. For example, this week I learned the term fruitfly.

1707
01:56:30.279 --> 01:56:32.399
I don't know what it means,
but I do know Elizabeth Taylor was

1708
01:56:32.439 --> 01:56:36.880
one. I looked it up in
the Urban Dictionary and it says here that

1709
01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:42.680
it is a woman who has friends
with a gay or bisexual man. Spencer,

1710
01:56:43.279 --> 01:56:47.880
they're talking about bisexuals again. Get
over here and bring me an elder

1711
01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:54.319
flower. Collins tell Scarsdale to take
the rest of the day off and to

1712
01:56:54.479 --> 01:56:59.600
walk out slowly. I like to
see him walk away anyway. A woman

1713
01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:03.159
who is friends with a gay or
bisexual man but does not have any interest

1714
01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:10.399
in seducing him like many hags do, according to the Urban Dictionary, and

1715
01:57:10.439 --> 01:57:13.880
then in parentheses, it says,
Spencer, come here. What does this

1716
01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:19.079
say? Could be for a variety
of reasons. They themselves may be lesbians

1717
01:57:19.199 --> 01:57:24.600
or just enjoy being friends with a
man who isn't trying to get in their

1718
01:57:24.720 --> 01:57:29.000
pants all the time. Did you
hear that, Spencer, Some men just

1719
01:57:29.199 --> 01:57:32.840
like to hear women talk. Well, that was very interesting. Thank you

1720
01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:39.279
so much, Astroid for listening.
Now I'm going to enjoy my delicious elderberry

1721
01:57:39.359 --> 01:57:46.239
martini I've now mixed them together,
and watch my homosexual butler Scarsdale as he

1722
01:57:46.399 --> 01:57:50.640
mows the lawn. Scarsdale is really
a jack of all trades. I found

1723
01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:54.760
that. Like, I mean,
he's both an object of desire, uh

1724
01:57:54.880 --> 01:58:00.439
huh and a gardener. He's a
landscape artist. I think Scarsdale perhaps is

1725
01:58:00.279 --> 01:58:03.760
I don't want to say the word
prisoner us. That's that's intense. Look,

1726
01:58:03.800 --> 01:58:08.399
I don't believe Catherine Hepburn would keep
it prisoner in her house. You

1727
01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:12.479
know, I'm concerned they're not letting
him out enough. Forget. We're getting

1728
01:58:12.520 --> 01:58:14.760
to a point to blink twice if
you need help, Scar, I think

1729
01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:16.680
so. I think so. I
think you're held against your will. Yeah.

1730
01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:18.960
I think they've hidden the car keys
from Scarsdale. Yeah, I think

1731
01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:21.640
so. And they're not letting him
off the property exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

1732
01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:25.199
I think I think we should we
should look into that. Uh.

1733
01:58:25.479 --> 01:58:30.880
Erica any final thoughts on Psycho.
Stop looking at me, boy, I

1734
01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:36.079
don't like the way you searched me
in that cheap, erotic fashion. I'm

1735
01:58:36.119 --> 01:58:42.640
wearing a fruit of the loom.
Yes, you are fruity, aren't you.

1736
01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:47.319
Your loins are plenty fruity. I
hear your disgust me, boy,

1737
01:58:48.119 --> 01:59:00.920
go out back and lash yourself.
So we cut to the County County Tornhouse,

1738
01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:05.359
the tenty Tornhouse, the Tounty Tornhouse, the County Cornhouse, the County

1739
01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:10.319
Cornhouse. That's the fruit seller's neighborhood. That's the fruit seller's sister bar.

1740
01:59:10.439 --> 01:59:13.840
That's the sister bar. Yeah,