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Weird things happened in the weird weird
weird What is up guys? You me?

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Well see you no, see.
I don't really be eating dragon though,

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Uh yeah, because it's more of
a meal for kings and I'm more

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of a peasant really, But they
don't actually eat us. It's a common

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misconception. They actually eat gold and
treasure, and that's why they're always sitting

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on a pile of it. Starting
off with it It's always Sunny quotes.

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I was hearing that same music in
my head. Yeah, damn dude,

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So what are we talking about today? Dragons? Show me Dragondon. I

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like how the peasant thing in there? Like, yeah, I've been playing

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Chovary too obsessively in the last few
days. Well, it's actually on the

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top of my notes. Here is
in big, big, big letters right

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here. No, the quote,
Oh he wrote it all that was.

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That was the beginning of my note
taking process for this episode. I'm fully

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convinced that we're doing this episode just
because he wanted to make those It's always

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Sunny references. I'm gonna be honest. I put this on there. I

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put the quote on the notes,
and then I took a break He's like,

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all right, I got the important
part done. Now I can move

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on to the other bullshit. Yeah, it doesn't matter. So why are

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we doing this episode? Why do
y'all think we're doing this episode? Because

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I said, let's do dragon pretty
much? No, no, no,

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I think, uh, I don't
know fantasy mythology. Like I feel like

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a lot of this stuff that it's
very like fantastical is it's all like an

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allegory for some real spiritual stuff,
Like it means something. It's a what's

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the word I'm looking for. It's
like symbolism. It's you know, it

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symbolizes ancient magic that's like long past
or lost on us or whatever. You

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know that the world used to be
so much more magical than it is now.

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You know, that's that's like a
lens that you could look through,

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Like you know, we talked about
that sometimes, how like maybe the world

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has lost its magic because of who
knows, distractions or whatever. That's that's

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kind of how I see it,
jumping around a little bit. That's funny

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you said we've lost our magic here
because medieval Christians believed in dragons, because

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dragons were in the Bible, So
like medieval peasants, even though dragon's not

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really a meal for peasants, Medieval
peasants actually believed in dragons. Is real

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because there are dragon from scripture in
the Bible, which I have that but

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sweet, I want to start at
the beginning. So great red dragon,

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that's the red dragon is based on
revelation. That's also right, right.

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That's also funny because there is like
this conversation that like, oh, dinosaurs

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didn't exist because they're not in the
Bible. Like, yeah, you know

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what I mean, because they're dragons, right, It's like there's dragon,

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there's a dragon in the Bible,
Like why do you Well, we also

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haven't said this yet, but the
main reason you had proposed to this idea,

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which we thought, wow, that's
a great idea, was because we

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have just entered into the year of
the Dragon in Chinese astrology. Yes,

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so we will be on the tenth
of February is lunar new year, right,

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because as you know, you learned
on this show that New Year's and

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Chinese New Year are not the same. It's not in the same day.

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Wow, that's a throwback right there. Right, Yeah, that's like that's

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one of my Hall of Famer moments. I just don't know. Well,

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we've got to have like different years, you know what I mean, like

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different years, Yeah, maybe different
days. No, I mean like different

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years, bro, like our year
and what is link yer? Yeah,

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that's up with a leap yer,
what's up with that? You know?

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It's crazy about it's a leap year. You know that. Now you'll have

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to look this up, but I'm
like ninety nine percent positive that years are

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actually three hundred and sixty days and
they add the five to account for leapyer,

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Like if it was based on like
the real Earth revolving around the sun,

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it would, yeah, three hundred
and sixty days. It's something about

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that. No, yeah, I
think you are close to cause it's it's

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like point something days, yeah,
exactly, so they just rounded off I

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think. Yeah. I think what
it is is like it's not exactly like

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a day is not exactly twenty four
hours. Like there's some small discrepancy in

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either the hours or the days or
the you know days in the year or

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whatever. And that's yeah, that's
why we have to have the leap here.

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Yeah, I'm gonna be honest,
I don't know why. I'm kind

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of nervous because we put you on
the spot. Yeah, well was I

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honestly, I think it's because I
have these notes. It's like, because

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this was the thing in school when
I had my notes, I was a

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terrible public speaker. But when I
was actually like well versed on the subject

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and didn't have notes, so I
was pretty decent. So what you're saying

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is you're not well versed on this
subject. I'm saying I cram dragons.

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I really have a lot of information
here, but I did cram dragons.

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All right, I'm excited. Yeah, all jokes aside, Like, I

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think dragons are one of the coolest
things ever, and I'm actually pumped for

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this episode. You're actually wearing chin
ron on your back, I am was

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that coincidental? It was? Oh? I did not wait to go to

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your left, to my left?
Yep, there it is a drag dragging

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well dragon dragon balls. That's probably
the best of all the dragon ball z.

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Oh yeah, wouldn't you say?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, for

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sure, for sure. It's sick. Yeah, that was my favorite actually.

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Ironically though, ironically, and then
we'll move on past. I know,

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we we got stuff to talk about
here. Ironically though, I feel

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like Alex would be obsessed with DBZ
if you really like, here's the this

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is the endless conundrum that we have
is that he is he should be one

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of us, but for some reason
he resists it. Huh, and he

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doesn't allow it to And then every
time that he like tries one of the

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things that we're begging him to do, he's obsessed with it. Name one,

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Star Wars three bro Okay, okay, yeah, Star Wars, Chivalry,

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Uh, Game of Thrones, Game
of Thrones, there's three? How

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about that? How about debt?
How about all right, let's get into

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yeah, let's get it all right, So twenty twenty four is the year

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of the wood Dragon, the wood
dragon, wood Dragon. This the last

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wood dragon year was in nineteen sixty
four. But we'll get into that.

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Oh, wo's talk right, all
right? So think of wood right,

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well, okay, let's get into
what does this mean? Yeah? Yeah,

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yeah, would right? So would
you want to think growth? And

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I personally think like sturdiness. And
then I also want to say that like

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this is all interpretation, right,
sure, Like you're gonna go to different

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websites in different places and get different
information. I mean, it's you're gonna

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kind of have the same underlying tones
here, but it's all like very interpretated.

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You may not know the answer to
this. I'm just curious. So

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is it like I've never heard of
it being referred to as like wood dragon.

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I always I just thought it was
always just year of the dragon or

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whatever. Do they like every time
dragon comes around? Do they like go

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to the next element or something?
Yeah? Oh that question? Is Is

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it that way with every one of
the I'm kind of thinking they're like,

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isah? So I did not know
that? So like, like for me,

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I'm born in ninety eight, ninety
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fire tiger, dude. I want
to know this now we should look up

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for years. Well, what are
you ninety three ninety three? I'm I'll

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look up mine while y'all are doing
that. I had no idea that was

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a thing. So you're a water
rooster nice nineteen ninety four Chinese zodiac dog.

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Right, Yeah, it is dog. I was crushed as a kid

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when I found out. I was
why same do there's like dragons and snakes?

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Badass rooster is pretty sick, dude. I'm a dog that's infinitely more

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powerful and universally loved. Nick nick, Yes, ninety four is the wood

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dog? Wood dog? I like
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a fire chicken water? I said, chicken. I'm sorry, I'm a

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roster. Sorry, really, I
did not mean to do that. I'm

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sorry. I'll call myself a wood
puppy. Now, just to balance it,

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I have a rooster story. If
you guys don't hear it, please,

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Goosters are kind of like dragon y'all
know, yeah, y'all know who

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this is. But me and my
buddy went to get one of our favorite

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tattoo artists was doing a get what
you get, which is it was a

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D one hundred dice and you rolled
the D one hundred and whatever number you

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flip to that page in a one
hundred page book, and you got that

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tattoo images. It was one hundred
dollars for one roll, one hundred sided

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dice, one tattoo, right,
and you had to get what you got

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or you could pay fifty dollars to
roll it again. So how big could

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it be? The it was lash. It was a it was a flash

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tattoo. So it's about I think
like five by. Don't you have a

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piece of papers? Yeah, yea, I have one. You should show

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him after, show you after.
That's not bad, that nuts I would

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do. That's a good deal.
That's a pretty like sizeable tattoo, and

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I would do that. And I
never had a tattoo before, but this

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guy like did all my buddies and
all my other buddies like, well respected

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dude, great guy. So we
show up eye roll. I got a

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knife. I got a rose with
a dagger through it, so like pretty

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pretty American traditional like cool. Yeah. And then my buddy Rolls, y'all

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know him, Yeah, yeah,
shout at Rolls gets a rooster. Yes,

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show he's got a rooster. Yeah, And he was like you should

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see his face when he flipped that
page of a book. He loves it.

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Now it's his favorite tattoo. Oh
that's awesome. See. I feel

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like that's a good move for your
first tattoo because some people just put so

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much pressure on their first tattoo.
I was doing it's gotta be deep.

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Yeah. I was doing it for
years and then finally I was like,

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if I don't pick something, I'm
never gonna pick anything. And then they

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announced that Soro was coming to Super
Smash Brothers, and I was like,

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I'm getting a Kublaide, like that's
sick tattoo. That was its well,

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so I looked up the meaning of
mine afterwards. It makes it cooler to

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me. Is the duality of man
the knife through the rose, the rose

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and the knife. It's like the
beauty and the pain or I don't know,

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the duality of man is the traditional
meaning. But anyway, let's get

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back to it. I found uh, green and yellow are gonna be like

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the colors of this year. I
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yellow for trees, yellow, brown, bark, and then green. I

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don't know, did you say yellow
for the dragon either green? Yeah,

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I just rode down, dude.
You're riding a yellow dragon in the thumbnail.

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Yeah. And then like rebirth and
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the theme, so like wood comes
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dragons are like fierce animals, so
like, let me let me look through

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this here. Damn dude, that's
so cool. I didn't know that there

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was the whole like element thing added
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honest, I've never like, I've
never dove super super deep into zodiac.

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I'd like to at some point because
It's always fascinated me, dude. I

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remember being a little kid and going
to like a Chinese buffet and on the

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menu they have like descriptions of all
the zodiac signs and like all the animals

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and stuff. It's like something for
you to do while you're like waiting for

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your food or something. And I
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is crazy? How come I didn't
learn about this in school? Damn it.

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So Year of Action and Changes,
which kind of goes along with that

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rebirth and revitalization thing. It's like
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also interesting because it's an eight year
too, so eight is karma and money,

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so you're kind of taking in Last
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I don't ask me about the Year
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Rabbit. I didn't brush up on
that before this. But we're taking what

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we learned from a knowledge seven year
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karma and money in this eight year. And I think that partners really well

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with the dragons, so it's kind
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saw speech coming up a lot,
like speaking carefully but speaking like truthfully and

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speaking liberately. So I thought of
it as like removing ANNs and ums,

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but really it's more of like removing
the gossip, removing the fluff, and

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really speaking with intention, which is
really interesting and all falls back into the

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like empowerment part of it. That's
so sick. I love that. Yeah.

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I mean it's looking like it's gonna
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I sure of growth. I sure
hope. So I'll take that out sign.

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So yeah, Chinese New Year growth
success, let's see. Would symbolizes

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humanity's aspiration to achieve progress, grow
and expand the year. The dragon represents

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health, strength, and good fortune. Dang do. So you take all

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this right, and then everybody's like, oh, we what like predict the

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future? Like what's the what's the
what's gonna happen this year? So I

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thought, I'm like, all right, how do you predict the future?

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You look at the past. So
I thought, let me pull this nineteen

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sixty four. I just went to
Wikipedia. I said, notable things that

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happened the last wood Dragon year Woo
nineteen sixty four, right in the middle

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of the Vietnam War. Also,
wasn't that the civil rights movement? Yeah?

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I mean it was yeah right around
then. Yeah, all that kind

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of happening at the same time.
So I took I just went through the

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wiki list and things that I thought
were interesting I wrote down. So this

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is not a comprehensive list, just
like what Alex thinks is cool from the

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nineteen sixty four I'm stoked. The
first meeting between the Roman Catholic and Orthodox

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Church since the fifteenth century. W
Paul the sixth and Patriarch Athena Goros,

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the first of Constantinople meet in Jerusalem. Wow, whoa, that's huge.

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That's really cool. It's really cool
because in the next episode I was going

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to briefly talk about the Council of
Constantinople. Wow, that's like monumental.

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Yeah, and talk about growth,
like we're talking about hundreds of years since

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the last time these figures have met, Like, that's tremendous growth. Yeah,

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last wood dragon like. So that
was like probably the coolest thing that

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I wrote down. That's sick.
No, that's super cool. Well,

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the other ones the okay, this
is this is a really fun topic.

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Yeah. United States Surgeon General Luther
Terry reports that's smoking maybe hazardous to one's

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health. Okay, Okay, so
like I read that as like, okay,

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breakthroughs in yeah, medicine kind of
yeah, Like all right, we're

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going against the grain here, would
well dude think about this prior to then,

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legitimately this is not bullshit. They
were like telling people smoking is good

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for you. Yeah, like especially
through the fifties when it was like really

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blowing up lucky strikes and stuff.
Oh yeah luckies. So sorry, not

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an Oh, don't be putting that
out there like that that Look, some

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kids are gonna start smoking some luckies
now, dog, yeah, do it

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unfiltered, don't get the plastic.
Great advice from alex I do see that

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as like tremendous growth though for humanity
to flip the ridiculous claim that it's good

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for you to be in like this
is bad. Yeah, it kills so

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many people. Yeah, what's what's
next? All right? Next, France

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and the People's Republic of China announced
their decision to establish diplomatic relations. Okay,

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let's go world politics stuff, all
right, relations stuff. You know,

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the People's Republic of China can be
hard to get along with some times.

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Next, really cool. Cassius Clay
then crowned the heavyweight Champion of the

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world. His name to Muhammad Ali
in sixty four. I love yo the

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goat. That is the goat.
Yeah. I mean it's like hard for

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me to pick between him and Mike
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But Mike Tyson himself is like did
you see where they were on a

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talk show together and they said,
uh, they said Tyson you versus And

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he was right next to him versus
Ali, and Ali's prime who's gonna win?

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And Mike was like him all day. Oh, and they were both

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just so humble, like no,
no, no, the other guy.

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They both were like that to each
other. Yeah, so cool. Mohammad

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was saying, like, I'm scared
of him. He's like, I'm not

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strong, I'm just fast. Yeah, yeah, I'm scared of him.

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Yeah. I love that man.
How they're both humbled towards each other.

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That's so cool. I was,
Uh, I was listening to Rogan the

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other day and it was he was
quoting Tyson and Tyson left the gym for

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a long time and then was talking
about how he was scared to get back

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in the gym. Oh because he
was scared to light that fire again.

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Dude, Like that's I will be
unstoppable again. Like I wrote a short

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story about Mike Tyson after hearing that
quote. It inspired me so much.

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Dude, that's so like so cool. Like he's like he says, like

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I'm afraid to get in there and
do it because if the old me comes

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back, hell is coming with him. Yeah. I was like, yeah,

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oh that's dude. You gotta be
a monster to like for that to

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be your mentality. Dudes, I
can't exercise because if I do connect with

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that old version of myself, like
whoa. Yeah, he's a master at

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his craft. He's also just a
master of ship talking and intimidation like like

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not even I can't. I don't
want to call it shit talking because that

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implies it's not even good it is, you know what I mean. It's

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just mass poetry. It's poetry in
the most visceral way. Like what's cool

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about that is uh Muhammad Ali he
his ship talking if you want to call

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it, that was like actual poetry, like like right and like like a

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butterfly, Like yeah, literally it
was poetry. And then Mike's is like

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he's angry and yelling, but the
things that he's saying you've never heard a

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human utter before I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna cut your head, I'm

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gonna make you mind like evil stuff. Yeah. But that's why I like

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Mike Tyson so much, you know, because he he he was so dark

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in the past, but then he's
he was like redeemed, but I changed.

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And also like he viewed and views
himself like in the context of boxing,

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he views himself as like a demi
god, like war year class Like,

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he's not like I'm a boxer,
He's like, I am a warrior.

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I mean. They asked him in
an interview like recently, like if

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you could fight one fighter of all
time, your number one pick, who

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would you want to fight against?
And with the straightest face in the world,

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he said Achilles. He said Achilles, and they were like, oh,

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like hand hand yeah. Yeah.
They were like what why? And

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he said he was the greatest to
ever to ever he was the greatest conqueror

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to ever exist. He's like,
I want that, I want that title,

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you know, if that's your north
star as far that's as hard as

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dude Achilles, Like, no one
expected him to say that. These are

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two Just find the Achilles in the
thing that you do and go beat that

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man, Yes, dude, I
get fired up. Bro. That is

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the Dragon year. Bro, just
do it, do it. I'm getting

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fired up, dude. We all
getting fired up, dude. I'm I

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feel like we should all just like
should box. Yeah, That's what I'm

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saying it. Just start banging them
out. Let's let's start boxing. I'm

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serious, bro. I like no, no, no, I mean I

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like, like, like just as
a sport, as a sport too highly

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respectable. It's scary. It's I
love that we're going down this tangent on

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the dragon. Yeah yeah, uh, it's like scary because like real permanent

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damage can be done, and you
have that moral quandary of like should this

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be happening? But it's like some
people are born to fight, and it's

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like if you don't want them out
there busting heads in public and just like

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wreaking havoc on, you know,
getting themselves into horrible situations, and you

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know, put them in an area
where it's regulated and they're you know,

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there's safety and stuff like that.
Sure, things still happen. I mean

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things happen in football. People get
concussions all the time in football, So

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it happens. But like, come, you gotta get it up. Nothing

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cool is safe, that's not and
that's not like I don't know that,

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like nothing is really ultimately safe,
Like crossing the road is not safe.

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That's all right. Well, let
me go back to that. I want

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to say. We're musicians. Oh
there's nothing unsafe we do and it's pretty

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fucking cool that string could pop and
just like shut up, all right,

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A right, no, No.
What I wanted to say is I think,

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for so many years before this comfort
that we live in and like most

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of the world lives in, like
fighting is just reality. Yeah, like

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that was an everyday thing, and
I think it like like something about the

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sport just like takes you back to
like roots, like right, there's nothing

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more primal than just going at it. Alright, alright, liver king,

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no, no whatever, whatever,
Alright, moving on. No, I

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love combat arts too, great little
tangent on the freaking Dragon episode The Dragon

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of the West, Way of the
Dragon. All right, y'all gonna love

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this one, okay. Nineteen sixty
four, the Italian government asks for help

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to keep the Leaning Tower of Pisa
from toppling over. No way, that's

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a thing unless this is one of
those where someone went in there like,

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right, somebody over here right now, yo oh, man got in love

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with the national crisis. When that
thing starts leaning too hard, they hit

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the red alarm button. It's like
the Italian president's desk is the red button

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is for the leaning priority over the
nuclear right right, yeah, yeah,

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damn, all right, Nick,
this one's for you. Nineteen sixty four,

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Constantine the second becomes King of Greece
upon the death of his father,

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King Paul. Okay, all right, cool, I don't and I read

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that, and I said Greece still
had a king in nineteen sixty four.

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Yea, may he reigned? They
have they only very re like adopted.

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It's so funny too. They recently
adopted democracy again because they invented it,

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you know. But they were enslaved
for four hundred years, and their whole

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socioeconomic you know, state flipped and
so whatever. Yeah, all right.

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Uh. The American Jerry Mock sets
out to become the first woman to fly

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solo around the world, completing her
flight on April seventeenth night. Oh that's

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huge growth. Yeah wow. And
then Gemini one is launched as an unmanned

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test. Let's go Gemini's Rise,
Up Rise, Up Rose, yep,

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and then I have this is the
last one. Uh. It's estimated four

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hundred to one thousand students march through
Times Square, New York. Uh,

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and another seven hundred in San Francisco
in the first major student demonstration against the

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Vietnam War. That's what I'm talking
about. Right there, you said,

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how many four hundred to one thousand, Yeah, it's in Times Square and

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then's a lot. There's seven hundred
in San Francisco. That's what I'm talking

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about. That's crazy, That's what
I'm talking about. In the war,

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they're all in like flower dresses.
Yeah, little you know who remember that

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scene and Watchmen? Yeah, alternate
version down visceral scene. Yeah, what

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a movie. You ever wish you
were alive back in the hippie times?

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Sometimes? Yeah, I really do. Broeah, Like sometimes it's like low

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key, Why why I would flourish
the music? I just think it's the

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best, Like the sixties to the
eighties there was there's like the music just

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there's nothing better. Yeah, sure, I guess until that came out.

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That's what I'm talking about right there. I have different reasons. Yeah,

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you don't want to disclose those no, never, right, Okay, you

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just wanted to drop a little hint
for everybody, tease everybody. Yeah,

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okay me. Why do I wish
the other nick? Oh? Well,

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A couple of reasons. One,
I think that like one of the coolest

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things ever would be to see Jimmy
Hendrix play music live. Like I feel

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like that is an experience that every
human being that didn't get to do that

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it was robbed of. Like he's
one of the most groundbreaking musicians of all

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time. Also, I mean,
Woodstock is possibly like the most legendary concert

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that's ever been put on. It
was a time of like breaking out into

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new patterns of thought and new ways
of thinking and like broadening horizons and breaking

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down borders, and so much progress
was made in that time, and like

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the Civil rights movement, and it
just seemed like, you know, it's

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the closest we ever got to really
like the Age of Aquarius. And then

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it's kind of I really think we
are almost there. And then they shifted

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things with the whole Manson debacle and
just kind of like shocked the world.

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You know, Like sometimes I wonder, like is it possible that timelines can

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change? I don't know, I
mean, what do I know? Right?

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But right, you can't certainly feels
like something was changing. Yeah,

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you can't help but ponder it.
And also like psychedelics were becoming a thing

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back then, like everybody was doing
them, Like what would that have been?

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Like it was so rampant that they
literally did the Manson thing in sixty

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nine, which we already know.
I mean, we're pretty well understood that

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that was not just a coincidence.
Oh you've been disclosed, Yeah, exactly,

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like it was a manufactured thing.
And then boom nineteen seventy psychedelics or

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you know, war on drugs,
Like yep, definitely, like it seems

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like people were rapidly waking up a
mass and I think so, yeah,

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yeah, very cool time. So
we'll shift a little bit here back to

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the Dragon year, right, I
guess we never left whatever. So the

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best match for this year, obviously, if you're a Dragon, it's your

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year. Congratulations and grats. Monkeys
and rats also gonna have best match with

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this People who have a match,
not the best match, but a match

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are going to be Rooster, Snake, Pig, and Horse, and then

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Nick, I'm sorry, actual the
true enemy signs. So the polar opposite

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on the wheel is the dog.
Don't let that scare you, because last

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year I was an enemy sign and
I had a pretty had a great year.

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Yeah I meant of some things happened, but it's all right. Also,

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so it's like truly your enemy or
the dog, but also ox and

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goat are no match? What does
that mean for me? The way I

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interpret it personally is like if it's
your enemy year, it's more of like

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a lay low, Like it's not
it's not a time to like start things.

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But I was really interested because I
haven't I don't remember my last enemy

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year because I wasn't like conscious of
conscious of this information. So I was

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kind of like really paying attention to
Ryan's enemy year last year, which was

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also my fiance's uh her year.
She's a cat or a rabbit, depending

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on who you believe, And I
think Ryan had a pretty good year.

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Yeah it was tough at times,
but that's every day. It's it's you

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know, I like, like I
feel like if things come easy to you

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when it's your year, like things
just flow and sometimes you just have to

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work a little harder. When it's
your enemy, it's like a challenge that

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you have to rise up to.
Like if it's your enemy year. It's

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like the final boss. It's like
you gotta you gotta buck up. And

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I think it's it's more like you're
in a storm storm and you just have

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to weather the storm. Like it
doesn't change your life. It doesn't like

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change the day to day. You
said, still have to do what you

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have to do, but it's just
like that much more annoying. All right,

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you know what I mean. That's
interesting because like since the beginning of

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the year, I feel like I
have been well, we're not there yet.

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Oh, you're right, February.
Technically we're not. You're right,

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You're right, they're different, We've
learned. It's also like I don't think

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that these energies like are like what
I'm trying to say, they don't fit

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in the box of the year.
I think there's a lot of overlap,

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just like with the Age of Aquarius, Like it's not like it's going to

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start at this time, right,
it's a it's like a slow we could

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never possibly know like the moment,
there's no pinpoint. Yeah, And I

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think it's that way with this.
So, like you're saying, it's like

406
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:38.720
we're starting to shift into that dragon
energy even though it hasn't technically started,

407
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.400
but the but we're starting to feel
that a little little by little, you

408
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:48.039
know what I mean. Yeah,
So I just kind of have some like,

409
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.759
uh, let's see, what are
they called a little paragraphs here?

410
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.279
This is more in the So I
did the Chinese interpretations, like the Chinese

411
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.960
Dragon year, and then I did
the Vietnamese dragon year. So where with

412
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.640
the Chinese take on it and the
Vietnamese take? And the reason I did

413
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:08.319
that is because they have the discrepancy
between cat and rabbit. So Chinese believe

414
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.640
last year was rabbit year. The
Vietnamese believe last year was a cat year.

415
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:17.559
Gotcha. So let's see. Blessed
as they are with the tenacity and

416
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.400
intelligence, dragons are equally renowned for
revealing or for reveling in challenges, taking

417
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.720
pleasure, and spending countless hours working
towards conquering whatever opposes them. The flip

418
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:33.000
side of these positive traits is a
tendency to have a legendary, legendarily short

419
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.960
temper and an inability to take criticism. As is often the case in life,

420
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.119
the strengths of those born under the
dragon sign are wrapped up with their

421
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:48.720
weaknesses. Emperors and ancient China were
identified as the sons of dragons, and

422
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.480
at that time ordinary people were not
allowed to have items with pictures of dragons

423
00:30:52.519 --> 00:31:00.200
on them. Chinese dragons are symbolic
of being lucky, powerful, and noble,

424
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.920
not as monsters as they are portrayed
in Western stories. Oh dude,

425
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.640
yeah, I know. Dragons are
venerated in Chinese culture as like gods.

426
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.400
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean,
if you've never seen like one of those

427
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.400
paper dragon, like the festival where
they have the paper, it is like

428
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.799
the most beautiful thing. It's so
cool. It's really cool when you start

429
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.039
to get into some of the like
some of that the history, Yeah,

430
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.640
I got some of that. Oh
we're getting there, all right. So

431
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:32.680
the Vietnamese, Yeah, Vietnamese,
let's see. So dragons in Vietnamese culture

432
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.680
are symbolic creatures from Vietnamese folklore and
mythology. According to ancient Origin myth,

433
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:42.279
the Vietnamese people are descended from a
dragon and a fairy. The dragon was

434
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:48.200
symbolic of bringing rain, essential for
agriculture. It represents the emperor and the

435
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.039
prosperity and the power of the nation, similar to the Chinese dragon, which

436
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:57.599
is also influenced and appeared in Japan
and Korea as fierce but benevolent serpentine dragons

437
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:04.359
alike. The Vietnamese dragon is a
symbol of Yang and represent and representing the

438
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.960
universe, life, existence and growth, Yang being positive, male, day,

439
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.720
active, sun, logical, hot, hard, like that's kind of

440
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:19.480
Yang energy. Damn, that's that's
so cool. When y'all think of when

441
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.799
you think of dragon, do you
immediately think of like the the worm w

442
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:29.200
y r M like the they look
more like a snake with little feet,

443
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:31.480
like the Chinese dragon, Yeah,
serpentine like like, or do you think

444
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:36.200
of like fantasy dragon with the big
chick. It depends on the context,

445
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.599
right, Yeah, it really depends
on the context. I feel like I've

446
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.680
just like immersed myself in so much
fantasy that that's just immediately what I think

447
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.079
of is like the big chested like
short arms, but like you know,

448
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.680
your typical fantasy dragon me too,
Yeah really yeah, unless I so,

449
00:32:54.680 --> 00:33:00.480
I was hearing dragon and sea serpent
kind of used interchangeably. When I hear

450
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:05.119
sea serpent, I think legless,
right, And when I hear dragon,

451
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.599
I think wings yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And then I'm thinking

452
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.000
sir, go ahead, right.
I was just gonna say, kind of

453
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.559
off this subject, but it is
weird when you really like boil down to

454
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:22.119
it and think about it. Nearly
every ancient religion system had some sort of

455
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.039
dragon or mythological serpent being. I
mean even the Egyptians had, you know,

456
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.000
the great serpent of the of the
Darkness of Puppus. You know,

457
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:35.519
in Mexico they had the flying sky
dragons. The Mayans and the Aztecs quetzelkotl

458
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.880
cuco Con, there's the same beings. I think even like all of the

459
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:45.039
different mythologies, like there there are
dragons in almost every mythology that you could

460
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:46.519
think. I'm just saying, it's
like, it's weird. It is so

461
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.799
dragons, like they go back four
thousand years ago in ancient Babylon. But

462
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.359
what's really interesting is we have all
of these texts of dragons, but no

463
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.960
pictures except until we get to like
the map, was the cameraon, Like

464
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:08.239
no, well, illustrations, dude, this is a this is a UFO

465
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.159
like phenomenon show, and you're asking
about pictures. Where's the evidence illustrations.

466
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:22.280
I'm just show me one picture of
a dragon picture, no picture, I'm

467
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.920
out, Yeah, yeah, no, So what's really interesting. And we'll

468
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:30.320
get a little bit deeper into this
in a minute. But there's no like

469
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:38.639
cave drawings in the east, nothing, no illustrations of dragons until they found

470
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:47.719
in the Grand Canyon Americans dinosaurs.
Wait wait, wait, okay, because

471
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:51.079
we know that like a lot of
the dinosaur bones, and I'm sure you'll

472
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:52.119
hit on that later, so I'll
leave that open ended. But a lot

473
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.800
of dinosaur bones, you know,
they found that they're typically out in the

474
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.199
west, like Utah, Arizona,
you know, the Grand Canyon area.

475
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.559
So this kind of sent me down
a little spiral here. What if they're

476
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.280
all kind of real, like in
the way that you have farm pigs and

477
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:13.800
wild boars, you have it's the
same animal would you have sea serpents,

478
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:19.280
you have dragons with wings, and
then you have these lizard like animals that

479
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:27.360
are more dinosaur esque. So it's
really we're kind of really dancing the line

480
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.280
here because we have so much of
this in Storian and myths. So the

481
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:36.559
ancient Babylon creation myth from four thousand
years ago, so there was a she

482
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:45.039
dragon that went in and slayed all
the Babylon the Babylon gods, except she's

483
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.000
like the chaotic's the dragon of the
darkness, Yes, chaos. So she

484
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:53.880
came out of the void and started
whooping ass on all Babylonian gods except the

485
00:35:53.920 --> 00:36:02.519
sun god Mar Marduke or Marduk Mar. Yes, Marduke slew Tiamot in a

486
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.440
cosmic battle, and then formed the
heavens and the earth with her dismembered body.

487
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:14.679
And then dragon Blood created the humans. Oh that's so cool. But

488
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:21.079
again we have this notion of some
sort of divine substance being infused with the

489
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.519
creation of humans, where divine beings
were made dragon's blood, or like in

490
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.559
the story of Dionysus, he's resurrected
with the ashes of the Titans. Yes,

491
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.159
right, it's this, this same
story over and over. We're part

492
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.559
of the divine substance. Yeah.
And lord of the Rings, the Mayr,

493
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.280
those like Elder, like you know, angelic beings, they raise humanity

494
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.199
up out of the ground. Like
you know, it's always it's always some

495
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:51.960
divine purpose that's bringing humanity to existence. Yeah, but I'm saying that it's

496
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.320
it's in us. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like dragon's blood

497
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.519
made us, right, you know, So we have that spark which is

498
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:02.920
really interesting because in this creation myth, the dragon represents this chaos and disorder,

499
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.320
but then the dragon is slain,
and then order and reality is born

500
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:13.280
from the slain dragon. And then
I keep kind of thinking in my head

501
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.480
as I'm writing this down, with
the wood Dragon year, so you have

502
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.360
like the dragon the tenacity, the
chaos, and then you have the wood

503
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.599
being the builder or like the prosperity. So you kind of are like Yin

504
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:29.519
and yang with the dragon year,
and then it also being a wood year.

505
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.800
So it's very like, it's very
interesting to me that we're doing it

506
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.239
at this time, I guess,
and it's it's a wood dragon. I

507
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.039
don't know, maybe I'm looking too
deep into No, dude, I really

508
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.800
feel like it's gonna be a good
year for us, well for everybody,

509
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.239
you know, like if it depends
on your perspective, honestly, you know,

510
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.679
like the potential for everybody to have
a good year is there. You

511
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.840
know, life can get in the
way. But I just feel like there's

512
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:54.679
an energy going into this year.
I mean, maybe it's because of what

513
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:59.960
I've gone through personally, but it's
also you're coming out of your enemy year.

514
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.239
Yeah, so it's like maybe from
a personal perspective too, It's like,

515
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.239
okay, like this is the first
year that I was like, I'm

516
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.440
so ready for a new year.
Get right, get behind me. See.

517
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.000
And that's interesting too, because you
weren't thinking about it being your enemy

518
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.920
year when you said that. No, I just was ready for something new.

519
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.719
Yeah the energy. Not to scare
you, nick, I'm scared.

520
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.159
That's okay, too late, It's
okay, you've already been through an enemy

521
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.039
year before. Yeah, I have. Yeah, you feel like the last

522
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.320
few years have been enemy years too, you know what. In all seriousness

523
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.679
though, although you know there's there's
things that you're dealing with, they're tough.

524
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.960
Look at all this amazing stuff we're
doing together. Oh, I'm so

525
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.920
blessed, not all bad. I
am so so so blessed and grateful for

526
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.480
the things that I have for sure, for sure, for sure, for

527
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.679
sure, for sure for show,
you know what I'm saying. So then

528
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.000
we get to the Bible. Let's
get to the Bible. So old Testament.

529
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:55.440
God creates a dragon Leviathan on the
fifth Day and then slays the dragon

530
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.719
on Judgment Day, and that's from
Isaiah twenty seven, verse one. So

531
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:06.079
what does that mean, Like,
why is that just popping up the we're

532
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.679
the only mention of dragonstiple. There's
multiple and I have too written down.

533
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:13.440
That's one of the two I've written
down. There's one. The Leviathan is

534
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.599
mentioned in Job. I don't have
that one. Well, we're going to

535
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.400
talk about this in the next episode. But some there's a split in like

536
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:25.480
the biblical scholarship community. Some scholars
believed that the the Book of Genesis was

537
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.440
the first one like ever handwritten,
and then some actually believe that Job was

538
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:35.239
way older that the even though the
stories, like you know, in the

539
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.800
canon Genesis would be the beginning,
but there's a belief that Job was written

540
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.960
many years earlier. You know what
I'm saying. Wow, And in the

541
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.480
Book of Job, the star wars
kind. Yeah. But there's two mythical

542
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.159
beasts in the Book of Job,
and it's the Behemoth, which is a

543
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.519
giant like land beast, and the
Leviathan, which is like this, I

544
00:39:53.519 --> 00:40:00.480
guess, giant sea serpent. Yeah, yep. Let's see Revelation your Dragon

545
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:05.599
the Book of Revelations, the Angel
slayed the dragon and then threw it into

546
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.280
the pit. And that's from Revelation
twenty verse one and two. Yeah,

547
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.320
there was like a wasn't it like
a ten headed dragon or something like that.

548
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.679
Yeah, But in the New Testament, the dragon represented represents the devil.

549
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.480
So I'm kind of like the Master
Serpent. I get like the anti

550
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.960
Christ, right right, that old
Serpent. Yeah, because the Old Testament,

551
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:29.840
the Leviathan story where he creates the
dragon and then slays the dragon kind

552
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:35.519
of goes back to that ancient Babylonian
myth where the dragon is created out of

553
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.079
nothing and then slain. Hey wait
a minute, it's clicking in my brain

554
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.679
because, like I said, Okay, so I'm just gonna go ahead and

555
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.280
say it in the next episode we're
gonna record, We're gonna do so the

556
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.239
one previous to this is it gonna
come out before Yeah, okay, that's

557
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.039
fine. You know, you guys
know we record, you know, multiple

558
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.199
out of time. But in the
Bible History episode we talk about we are

559
00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.280
going to talk about, but I
guess you'll hear it first, when when

560
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:07.400
the first Biblical texts were written.
It's actually believed that they were written during

561
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.320
a time when and this is you
know, a real historical thing that happened

562
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:21.079
for several hundred years. The Jews
were in slavery in Babylon, right,

563
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:29.719
And as they're writing these texts,
they're learning from Babylonian culture and religion.

564
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:34.559
And you just said that ties to
the Babylonian myth. So there's just more

565
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.960
evidence right there to support that.
You know, we have this ancient Babylonian

566
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.800
myth of this dragon being created and
then slain by God. You know,

567
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.880
Marduk, the son of Inki,
who was the son of Anu in their

568
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.079
system, and Andu was like the
supreme god. And then you had Inky,

569
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.239
which would have been like the Zeus
figure. And then you have Marduke,

570
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.079
which is like the prince you know, Savi, your frinds. And

571
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:59.519
then we have the story where,
like you just said, it mirrors the

572
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.119
Babylonia myth where the dragon was created
and then slain on Judgment Day. So

573
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.280
that's that's a cool little synchronicity there
that we're doing both of these episodes back

574
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.039
to back. I'm also really happy
that I have Ryan approved research. Yeah,

575
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.480
you start throwing around Babylon, I'm
like, damn, Like, that's

576
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.679
that's the fun stuff to talk about. So I guess. And then this

577
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.360
is where we tie back to that
medieval Christians so medieval Christians reading the Bible

578
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:28.599
then are like convinced dragons are reality
because right, yeah, it's in the

579
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:32.320
Bible. They're like, oh my
god, dragons into all this medieval story.

580
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.679
Yeah, there's unicorns in the Bible. There's all kinds of stuff in

581
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:40.119
there that people, you know,
huh, Old Testament or New Testament.

582
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.719
I'm not sure that unicorn anybody,
but it's not that hard to make a

583
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:51.000
unicorn. You just put on,
like, you know, the the Scottish,

584
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:52.840
I'm not sure if it was on
the flag. I'm not really that

585
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.360
one of their national symbols was a
unicorn in Scotland. I'm pretty sure I

586
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.559
could just be talking going out of
my bum but you look at it.

587
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.519
I got my hands full over here. I'm looking up. Dang, dude,

588
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.119
this is not the un So I'm
sorry all you're looking at. I'm

589
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.480
gonna keep going because then dragons,
So this is all kind of going on

590
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.679
in the Middle East. Dragons enter
Europe in Libya in the third century.

591
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:22.039
So the legend says that the dragon
was terrorizing the Roman Empire outpost and a

592
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:27.800
Christian soldier named George killed a dragon
and that ushered in Christianity to the Roman

593
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:32.079
Empire. The Christian Crusade then was
going on in the Holy Land some years

594
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.039
and years later, and they found
that this crusader group found themselves outnumbered,

595
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:42.440
and they were about to concede when
the ghost of Saint George and an army

596
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.960
of angels joined their ranks and helped
them defeat I guess their enemy, and

597
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:53.360
then George became the patron saint of
England. Dang dude, after his ghosts

598
00:43:53.440 --> 00:44:00.480
came back and slayed a dragon.
Yeah, what dude, that's right out

599
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.559
of Lord of the Rings. Yeah, that's wild. That Also, if

600
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:07.480
anybody cares about the unicorn situation,
it's mentioned eight times in the Bible eight

601
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.679
times. Whose flag is it?
That's what I want. It was Scotland's

602
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.559
coat of arms. Yeah. God
brought them out of Egypt. He had,

603
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.400
as it were the strength of an
unicorn, numbers twenty three and twenty

604
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:21.840
two, and then you have numbers
twenty four and eight. God brought him

605
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.679
forth out of Egypt. He hath
as it were the strength of a unicorn.

606
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.920
He shall eat up the nations his
enemies, and shall break their bones

607
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.480
and pierce them through with his arrows. There was another one that I thought

608
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.800
was really cool that made unicorns sound
really bad ass. Oh, listen to

609
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.480
this one, Psalm twenty two to
twenty one, Save me from the Lion's

610
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.440
mouth, for thou hast heard me
from the horns of unicorns. So,

611
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.800
like, thousands of years ago they
had this idea of like a horned unicorn,

612
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.920
like or you know the Greeks a
cyclops or all these cultures dragons.

613
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.960
You know, like why why do
they all have these ideas that these things

614
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:55.559
that existed? Yeah, but also
why is it called a unicorn and not

615
00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.760
a unicorn? Yeah? That is
a great no oh question. The biggest,

616
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:07.199
the biggest issue to happen with humanity
was to make unicorns this feminine figure.

617
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:13.199
Think about your usual where is this? Unicorns? They are so cool

618
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.760
and they're feminists, like feminine,
they're feminists. They're feminine and like,

619
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.000
you know, you think little when
you think unicorn. Yeah, you think

620
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:24.840
the little girl unicorn. Think about
this. You're using horses for battle,

621
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.320
right, Imagine if it's got a
built in horn. Try Sarah, tho,

622
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:39.039
my horny, my horn can pierce
this guy, dude, that goes

623
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.280
hard. I'd write a unicorn.
Yeah, when I hear unicorn, I

624
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.960
think about oblivion. I've always secretly
thought unicorns were like super cool, They're

625
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.400
awesome, they're awesome, they're so
sick. But again, why unicorn.

626
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:58.719
Yeah, that's that's the etymology of
that is messing with me. So that's

627
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.920
kind of the end of my like
non conspiratorial. You didn't go into any

628
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:09.360
of the dinosaurs stuff. I know
that's conspiracy. If we want to continue

629
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:15.800
talking about the actual you know,
no fact of it, we're setting you

630
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.519
free. We're unchanged. And this
is I had to do all that research

631
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:28.559
just so that I could talk conspiracy
on the show episode. So the conspiracy

632
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:34.480
is is that dinosaurs never existed,
but dragons did. And somewhere along the

633
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:39.559
line we changed dragons into dinosaurs and
then said that they predated humans, but

634
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.280
maybe dragons existed at the same time
as humans, and then somewhere our wires

635
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:52.239
got crossed and now we're calling them
dinosaurs. So let's see. So how

636
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:58.639
does that make you feel? I
think I think elements of both of those

637
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.440
versions have to be true, you
know, Like my philosophy is that anything

638
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:07.000
that they tell us from an official
mainstream stance has to have some reason they're

639
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.119
putting it out that way, So
I'm like, could it be true?

640
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.320
Yeah, but you know, I
don't take everything at face value. There

641
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.559
had to be something, But like
I would be totally willing to believe that

642
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:24.039
this is you know, some crazy
dimension that we really only know so little

643
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.760
about, and then maybe there could
have been a time in the past where

644
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.199
there were all these different types of
beings that existed. It would make sense

645
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.760
to me, you know, if
there really is we know, there really

646
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.480
is some sort of elite priestly class
at the top, it would make perfect

647
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:44.320
sense for them to keep putting out
this narrative of like establishing this paradigm where

648
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:50.239
we only believe in you know,
Darwinian physical evolution only you know, galactic

649
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.920
space travel to the far reaches of
the moons and you know, all and

650
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:59.960
prepping this alien stage, but trying
to really rule out any sort of spear

651
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:01.920
virtual phenomenon. Like to me,
that just makes sense. Do I think

652
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.000
dinosaurs exist or didn't exist? No? I don't. I'm not saying that,

653
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:13.280
but I don't necessarily so let me
change your mind, please do No,

654
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.519
I don't know, I don't,
so Okay, anyway, the word

655
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:22.039
dinosaur did not come about until eighteen
forty one. Really, so there was

656
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.639
no conception of dinosaur until eighteen forty
one. Meanwhile, we have stories of

657
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:32.880
dragons that go back for years.
Yeah, yeah, So Richard Owen coined

658
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:38.239
the word dinosaur originally dinosauria in eighteen
forty one, and it originates from two

659
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:49.239
Greek words dinos and meaning terrible,
powerful, wondrous, and sarros meaning lizard,

660
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.360
so powerful, lizard, terrible.
What does that sound like godzilla,

661
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.559
a dragon, a dragon? It
honestly does. And like, sure somebody

662
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.719
out there might be like, well, they just called dinosaur dragons before that,

663
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.880
but why are they they did,
right, why are they so commonly

664
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:12.280
depicted with wings and or being able
to fly? If if it's just like

665
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.880
dinosaurs with a different name, you
know what I mean, Like, that's

666
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:22.599
that's pretty wild to me. And
also in the past like twenty years,

667
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:29.880
specifically, they have finally started to
find enough evidence, well or lack thereof.

668
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:35.280
There are gaps, official gaps forming
in what we thought we knew about

669
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:40.519
dinosaurs, where now we genuinely have
no idea of anything other than just the

670
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:45.639
bones of dinosaur. And dude,
not even that there has never been a

671
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.599
complete skeleton found ever of a dinosaur. All that you're gonna tell me that

672
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:54.320
dinosaurs predate humans, but you have
cave drawings of dinosaurs done by Native Americans

673
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.199
in the gun. How is that
possible if they're supposed to be all these

674
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.880
millions of years ago before humans exist. Do My dad was telling me recently

675
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:07.320
that they have in the last several
years found you know, quote I say

676
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.519
quote here because we're open ended.
Are the dinosaurs or the dragons whatever?

677
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:15.960
All could be true? Right,
but they found like dinosaur bones that still

678
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:23.000
had layers of flesh on them.
What for real? Yeah, like preserve

679
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:29.119
like fossilized. Yeah. Yeah,
so yeah, that's where my brain goes.

680
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.159
It's like, yeah, I think
dinosaurs existed. I don't know if

681
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.440
the timeline is correct, but what
I think is that, you know,

682
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:43.280
we know now that they are so
remarkably similar, for instance, to what's

683
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:47.119
it called, like foul type animals
like chickens, and yeah, because the

684
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:52.719
majority of soft tissue, yeah you
can look it up. By the way,

685
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.719
the majority of dragon sorry, the
majority of dinosaur bones that have been

686
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.360
found, a large majority are hollow, right, And like, come on,

687
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.920
why are they hollow unless that's like
some evolutionary thing where they need to

688
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.280
fly, right, you know what
I'm saying, Hollow boned animals that we

689
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.880
really know of fly. Yeah,
So I feel like there was probably feathered,

690
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.159
like way more feathered dinosaurs running around
than we thought, which, like,

691
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.679
if that's possible, then why is
it so hard to believe that some

692
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:25.760
of these big creatures also had like
bat type wings where it's like leathery and

693
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:30.679
it matches the rest of the skin
on their body, you know what I'm

694
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:36.719
saying, Like like that just these
things all could have existed together or at

695
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.039
different times or whatever. But I
don't I truly don't have a problem at

696
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:45.519
all believing that like some form of
dragons like it absolutely existed. There are

697
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:50.079
there's thousands of years of recorded here. Yeah, at the same time as

698
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.880
humans. Yeah, And I just
did look it up. They did find

699
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.159
dinosaur bones with soft tissue in them. But I'm gonna throw you all a

700
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:01.239
curveball. That is not necessarily about
dragons, but it kind of adds to

701
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:06.480
the case of you know what if
we really did exist at the same time

702
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.039
as dinosaurs. Have either of you
heard of the London Hammer. No,

703
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:16.639
there was a sledgehammer found like a
fossilized sledge hammer found deep underground in sediment

704
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:24.360
in the London area that is dated
to be five hundred million years old.

705
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:35.320
No, no way, five hundred
million. I thought dinosaurs sixty five million

706
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.159
ago. The London hammer was found
in London, Texas. No, okay,

707
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:43.679
what was the London area. I'm
not a misread a detail there.

708
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:47.159
He never seen London. I didn't
say. Yeah, I'm not trying to

709
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.599
push on the spot. I just
want to say that Texas is cooler than

710
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.360
London. Oh okay, it's cool
man. I've been to the airport,

711
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:59.039
but I've been to the airport.
Yeah, I mean that's a that for

712
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.840
you know, that's a pretty sophisticated
tool. It's sure it may be able

713
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.239
to be created, you know,
by I don't know, five hundred.

714
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.480
The point is we were supposed to
have started, you know, being ten

715
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.599
to twelve thousand years ago. Oh
five hundred million, right, Yeah,

716
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:20.760
that's that's insane. Yep. The
hammer is five hundred million years old.

717
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.320
No way. Yeah, So it's
like what made that? The rock around

718
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.400
the hammer was four hundred million years
old? Dude, ain't no monkeys made

719
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:34.199
that? This is my point.
My point is, I just don't believe

720
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.480
any of the narrative that we are
given. That's a smoking gun, like,

721
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:40.960
well there's more, there's all this. Uh have you heard about like

722
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:46.559
the giant bones with the Smithsonian go
ahead? There were like reports of the

723
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.400
Smithsonian Museum getting giant bones and destroying
them. Yep. I don't know,

724
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:53.480
bro. I mean, I'm just
saying like, yeah, I think,

725
00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:00.159
and you know, Graham Hancock is
a very notable person in kind of this

726
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:05.079
field of rewriting history like what where, especially with archaeology, with archaeology.

727
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.880
Yeah, but we're fed. Is
not the linear progression of man. And

728
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:13.639
if you think about it, like
I mean, we're probably not the first

729
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:15.800
and I would say with a lot
of certainty, we're probably not the first

730
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:21.000
advanced civilization to walk the planet.
I think it's eternal. Yeah, it's

731
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.320
exactly over and over and over and
over forever. I really. I mean,

732
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:28.199
because if you go as above so
below and you believe in reincarnation on

733
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.880
the micro level ourselves, it has
to exist in the macro levels actually society

734
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:37.880
or the group self, you know, the hive mind or whatever you want

735
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.159
to call it. But it but
I don't know. I don't want to

736
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.840
rush into this dragon stuff because I'm
nearing the end and I kind of want

737
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.559
to sit in that for a second. Let's just sit in it for a

738
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:52.079
second and breathe fire like dragons,
and let's pay homage to the dragon of

739
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.840
the West. Iro Oh, Bro, I did to hit me in the

740
00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:02.320
heart like that man? That Iro? What's what's your like? Iconic favorite

741
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:09.719
dragon from any any extended shinron bro
Oh, Let's go yeah, Okay,

742
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:15.119
give a little description of Chenron for
those who might not know. Chenron is

743
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:20.920
from also known as shehn Long in
Japanese. He is the mythical dragon from

744
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.440
Dragon ball Z that is created the
one on the back of my shirt,

745
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:29.400
that also the one contained within the
seven dragon balls. And he's a magical

746
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:31.920
dragon. And when you gather the
seven dragon balls, which are these like

747
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:37.360
mystical orbs with stars on them,
and when you gather them together and you

748
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:42.400
summon the dragon, you get to
make a wish and he's like he's like

749
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:46.480
the Eastern style dragon, like like
the really long body with the tiny arms,

750
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:51.320
and he's got like the little horns
on his head and the og like

751
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:53.800
eighties dragon ball Z opening. It
was super sick because you see like Goku

752
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:58.320
and Gohan running all up Chenron's back, you know, Yeah, I always

753
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.400
love that as a kid. Yeah, I want to run on Chenron's back

754
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:04.760
in the clouds. Yeah. See. And that's like another That's an example

755
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:08.119
right there. We were talking earlier
about how in the East like dragons were

756
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:15.800
and are venerated as these like powerful
yet benevolent magical creatures, and like he,

757
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:20.840
Chenron very much is kind of an
in between arbiter. He doesn't side

758
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:24.000
on good or bad or whatever.
He is just simply a grant wishes.

759
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:29.119
Yeah, a magical entity and he's
super cool. Okay, I have a

760
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:31.559
question. Yeah, is Falcor from
a never Ending Story a dragon? I'm

761
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:37.280
gonna say yes, I'm gonna just
because he has a dog face doesn't mean

762
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:38.880
he's not the rest of him is
a dragon, dude. Yeah. I

763
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:44.559
know a lot of really good people
with a dog face. They don't change

764
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:49.119
what. Yeah, he's a dragon, dude, He's for sure a dragon.

765
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:55.280
Uh mine is in Caligon the Black
from Lord of the Rings. Lor

766
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:59.960
It's not Lord of the Rings.
This is we're talking about Silmarillion, way

767
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:07.559
a far back and Kalagan is like
the the like progenitor of dragons. And

768
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:13.320
it said that he was so he's
like pure evil, like pure because in

769
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:17.679
in Lord of the Rings universe dragons
worms that they're like bad. They're they're

770
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:22.280
like pretty much always bad. I
mean you think Schmaug, like the the

771
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:27.480
razorbacks that the Ring Race fly on
every dragon you see in Lord of the

772
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.360
Rings. They're not good, they're
bad. Uh. So more Goth,

773
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:37.760
who's like the primordial evil of that
universe, created the first dragon and Kaligon,

774
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.760
and it was said that he's so
big that when he takes flight he

775
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:45.480
blots out the sun. That he's
he's the biggest dragon of all, like

776
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.280
fantasy ever, the biggest dragon to
ever exist. Hold up, have you

777
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:53.679
seen uh the cosmic dragon from Dragon
Ball super? Yeah, that thing is

778
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:58.480
like big as a galaxy. Bro
Okay, fair, fair, that might

779
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.440
be. That might be a little
bigger than and Caligan the Black Yeah,

780
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.760
yeah, that's true. A pretty
fucking big dragon. Yeah. Yeah,

781
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:08.639
Okay, Alex, what's your favorite
dragon from Dragon Tails? I knew it,

782
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.559
I knew it. Yeah, I
had to think hard about it.

783
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.079
I love that. I don't know
a lot of dragons actually, Okay,

784
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:27.719
especially because I don't need them.
Fang Avatar, Roku's dragon oh in spirit

785
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.639
guide kind of thing. That's a
sick answer, dude. Yeah, did

786
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:36.320
you ever play Skyrim? No?
You that's just one of the other So

787
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.960
drop in the bucket of all the
things that Alex would fall in love with

788
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:44.039
Skyrim, he would have been,
like you know, he would have been

789
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:45.400
old enough to play that. Yeah. And it's also been released, like

790
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:49.719
re released like twenty times. Yeah, like like you know, but I

791
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.760
mean that's the core, like the
entire core of the game is dragons.

792
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:57.320
It's all about dragons. I'll have
to check it out. Okay, it's

793
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.320
sweet, dude. You're the dragon
born Okay, yeah you are. You're

794
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:06.079
You're like a human that is born
in that universe dragons. When they speak,

795
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:10.880
it's magic. It's called thoomb or
dragon speak, dragon shouting. So

796
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.119
the dragon born is I don't know
how often, if it's every hundred years

797
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:19.440
or every I don't know how often
it is. But there's a dragon born

798
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.519
who is born it might be and
it's a human who can speak thoomb dragon

799
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:29.960
and that's you in the game.
You're the dragon. Yeah. Yeah,

800
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:34.440
like you're literally walking through a field
at one point, and the entire like

801
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:39.079
earth shakes because there's somebody on a
mountain speaking dragon speech, and you're like

802
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:45.199
a second favorite answer the dragon from
Game of Thrones, who uh was acting

803
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:51.280
up and eating people and then everybody
came crying to Oh my god, what's

804
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:54.400
his name? Is this one of
Kalisi's dragons? Yeah yeah, the one

805
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:58.599
that was like eating farmers and stuff. Yeah yeah, yah, yeah,

806
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:00.960
yeah yeah yeah. And they had
to put him in there dungeon. They

807
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.000
put all of them in the Dutch, but it was one of them.

808
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:06.199
I think that was acting up.
What about the one that died and then

809
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:10.800
the Night King reanimated his court.
Oh that was my least favorite dragon.

810
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:16.360
That went so hard. Remember how
fast it was the first time you see

811
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:20.559
it fly, it's like the flash. It's like that freaking drag when that

812
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:23.519
dragon died, b broh. The
one that really got me is when they

813
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:27.159
were just like she was just like
flying in the sky and it was all

814
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.880
peaceful, and then it just gets
impaled by like three massive harpoons and gets

815
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.159
taken down. Yep, I guess
we don't have to put a spoiler on.

816
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.679
No, that's been out. That's
been finished for a couple of years

817
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:39.639
now, but if you're like me
and you haven't seen it, it's still

818
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:42.880
worth it. Watch it. All
its spoiled before I watched it, and

819
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.760
it was still great. Yeah.
So anyway, let's get back to my

820
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:52.079
notes. Yes, here's what I
thought was interesting. So, no complete

821
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:58.679
dragon fossil or skeleton has ever a
dragon dinosaur has ever been found, right,

822
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:02.880
so I'm like, okay, Well, the most complete one was a

823
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:12.880
Hadrosaurus and it was famous because it
was the most complete skeleton unearthed and unearthed

824
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:20.960
in eighteen fifty eight. But that
is only a couple years after eighteen forty

825
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:25.960
one when the word dinosaur was created. So they were finding these fragments of

826
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:31.159
bones and guessing then made up the
word dinosaur, and then oh no,

827
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:37.320
like ten years later, we suddenly
found a very very complete one and it's

828
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.119
a dinosaur for sure because we know
it. Wow. Yeah, And they're

829
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:47.440
like trying to pay little tours of
it at the carnival. Okay, the

830
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:54.760
way you structured that sentence, And
there's they're trying to pay at the carnival.

831
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:59.039
They're charging tours right next to the
Harry lady. He said, they're

832
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.239
trying to pay tolls at the carnival. They are tours of it next to

833
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:07.199
the Harry Lady. Yeah yeah,
get your dinosaur bones, dude, that's

834
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:13.440
wild. You gotta walk through the
gift shop get the plastic buds to take

835
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:19.159
home. So anyway, that's the
end of my notes. Dude, Dragons,

836
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:27.119
dragon to dragon to all right,
what's your biggest takeaway from today?

837
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:36.000
Huh? My biggest takeaway from today
is probably that they pay tours at the

838
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:44.400
carnival to see now, my biggest
takeaway is, uh that there are elements

839
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:49.719
associated with zodiac years, Like it's
not just year of the Dragon, it's

840
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.719
year of the wood dragon, water, water chicken, air spider. I

841
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:58.639
mean, I think water Chicken is
a summer league baseball team. He was

842
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:01.320
a water chicken. I'm a rooster. Oh right, my bad. If

843
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:05.840
we're being proper, it's the cock. Oh right right, yeah, so

844
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:07.920
like a watercock. Yeah, and
imagine how disturbed I was when I found

845
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.960
that out as a child, when
I was in cracker Barrel and saw a

846
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:15.360
pamphlet of the Chinese. Hey,
roosters are badassss are bad ass, dude,

847
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:21.559
bro, they fight each other.
I've actually had roosters on my property,

848
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:24.119
and I don't think they're that bad
ass. Why I just don't,

849
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:28.760
man, I just don't. I've
seen them. They've got two little twiggy

850
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.599
legs, man, and they're really
you could just step on it. Yeah,

851
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:35.960
well listen, I've got I recently, very recently, like two or

852
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:42.400
three days ago, heard a story
about a very badass rooster. Somebody that

853
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:45.840
I was working with said that they
have chickens and they have one rooster.

854
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:52.519
Because apparently what a rooster is supposed
to do is protect the hens from any

855
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.800
threats or whatever. He's looking after
his lady. Yeah, that's apparently how

856
01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:00.559
it's supposed to be. Well,
this one was fully doing the opposite.

857
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:04.519
Oh buh. Like it was like
terrorizing them and tearing them up and then

858
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:09.880
also attacking the person that I was
talking to. She said that, like

859
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:14.440
she would walk outside and see him
across the yard, and as soon as

860
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:18.519
he knew that she was outside,
he would barrel towards her as fast as

861
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:24.519
possible, flapping and running and just
like launched directly at her face, like

862
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.400
trying desperately to hurt her in any
way possible. They've been known to do

863
01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:30.400
that. When my dad was a
little boy. He had a pet rooster

864
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.639
then he named John, and it
was his like, it was his buddy.

865
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:36.360
And when my grandpa would be out
in the yard, you know,

866
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:40.320
they had like the whole farm back
then and all that my grandpa would be

867
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:43.880
out in the yard. The rooster. You know that a lot of breeds

868
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.199
of rooster have spikes. This one
did the one that yeah, spurs spurs

869
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:51.239
yep, And that little sucker would
run up and it would spur my grandfather

870
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:56.639
Yeah, and it spurred him over
and over and over, and just like

871
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.000
my grandpa got fed up with it. So U one night my day,

872
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:02.760
I found out, where's John?
Where's John? Shot it? Well,

873
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:10.000
they they served John for dinner.
Uh they couldn't, you know. That's

874
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:15.360
exactly what how this story ends.
She said that the rooster was attacking her,

875
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:20.360
attacking the other hens. And then
one day her girlfriend came outside and

876
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:25.239
the rooster tried to attack her,
and it was like, all right,

877
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:29.639
that's because she also has a little
daughter who's like less than ten years old,

878
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:32.280
and so they were like afraid for
her safety and all this stuff.

879
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:38.679
And so after that happened, she
just shot shot the four roost I mean,

880
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.559
it's like, what are you gonna
do, Like put that rooster on

881
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:45.920
somebody else, try to give it
away, or like they tried setting it

882
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.400
loose. It just came. It
just kept coming back, tearing through the

883
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.639
fence. Oh sight, Yeah,
getting to the hens. So she was

884
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:55.280
like, I just had to I
had to pull out the nine one morning

885
01:05:55.320 --> 01:06:00.039
and just just just finish it.
Damn. Dude's yeah, I'm gonna tell

886
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.480
you if I got spurred by a
rooster, I just kicked the shit out

887
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:05.639
of it. Well that's what he
did. And then yeah, and Grandpa

888
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.280
and then I'd go into the house
and then I'd come back out. My

889
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:14.360
dad would be. My dad found
out later that he ate his friend John.

890
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:16.119
Yeah, well what she gotta do
away, You got to cook the

891
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:19.199
chicken, regardless of how you prepare
it. Then you got to go outside

892
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:21.760
to the other roosters, and you
got to eat it in front of them.

893
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:26.000
Yeah, to say, this is
what happens when you start spruning people

894
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:30.639
exactly. You know, in Japanese
culture, there is a dish where you

895
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:34.880
coat chicken with egg and I don't
know the Japanese word, but the dish

896
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:40.280
translates to mother and child. Well, that's essentially every time you've ever eaten

897
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:44.079
fried chicken. That's what's happening,
is that you cover it in eggs and

898
01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:45.840
then you cover it in batter.
And every time I eat fried chicken,

899
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.280
I'm like, this feels like some
fucked up rituals. Mother and Child.

900
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:55.760
I'm just bathing the mother and the
freaking mixed up carcasses of her dead children

901
01:06:56.159 --> 01:07:00.079
and then frying it like it's it's
pretty much cop. It's good. It's

902
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.679
real good though. So I hope
you all learned a lot today. Well,

903
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.559
right, where's your takeaway? My
biggest takeaway, honestly, the thing

904
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.880
that blew them blew my mind the
most was that there were no like drawings

905
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:14.960
or depictions of dragons in the East
for thousands of years. Yeah, there's

906
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:17.320
so much text and culture about them. Yeah, I didn't know that there

907
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:20.400
were no depictions of them. Yeah, that long ago. That probably came

908
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:26.960
about within just like the past couple
thousand years. Wow, which is what

909
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.320
because you do see you do see
like the the you know, depictions of

910
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.280
the dragons and stuff, and how
they look. They always have like big

911
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:39.760
eyes, which honestly is kind of
a strong argument for them to just be

912
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:44.119
myth. What do you mean the
fact that it's all story and no picture.

913
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.840
M Well, everybody who tried to
draw a picture probably got eaten by

914
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:54.480
a dragon, so that's probably what
the leg right have you guys. I

915
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:56.599
don't know. I don't know about
you guys, but I've been to like

916
01:07:57.039 --> 01:08:00.320
some of the prominent art museums,
like the Smithsonian Art Museum, the MoMA,

917
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:05.880
the Modern Art Museum, the the
Louver in Paris, and I can't

918
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:10.079
remember. I think it was at
the I think it was at the Smithsonian

919
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:15.159
Art Museum. There there's a lot
of you know, there's like what do

920
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:19.000
you call it, different different cultures, different periods like it, you know,

921
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:23.600
Baroque art, Renaissance art, whatever, different periods of history. They'll

922
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.319
grow up a lot of these pieces. And there was one that I think

923
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:31.359
was painted in like the fifteen or
the sixteen or the seventeen hundreds, obviously

924
01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:35.039
way before there was cameras and stuff
like that, and it was people drawing

925
01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:43.479
like tigers and sharks and lions.
And keep in mind these people maybe saw

926
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:49.439
one once in their life and they
look so wonky, like some of the

927
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:53.600
paintings of like being out at sea
and there's like a shark poking out of

928
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.960
the ocean. These are like real, like famous classical art people, and

929
01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:00.039
the shark looks like like has little
like person on the five faces. Like

930
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:03.439
they didn't know what this stuff looked
like, even real stuff that we see

931
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:06.479
all the time now on TV and
movies and whatnot. They had no clue

932
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.439
what this. They might have seen
a lion once, yeah, ever ever,

933
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.720
or a drawing of one and they're
like, oh so cool, you

934
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.439
know, you never know what about
depictions and all that, But they didn't

935
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:19.760
have scuba gear. They couldn't dive
down and see what a shark looked like.

936
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.800
Yeah, they didn't have national geographic
right. They weren't just a round

937
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:30.279
sharks that they were. It was
you know what I'm saying. I mean,

938
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.600
i'd imagine it'd be the same with
dragons, you know what I'm saying.

939
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:38.800
But but for me, the fact
that all these different cultures have this

940
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:42.079
like language and description of them,
I just think it's really weird. That's

941
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:44.960
all I'm saying. That's all I'm
saying. I'm open, I don't I

942
01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:46.279
don't die on the hill that you
know, they were real and they weren't

943
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.760
real, But I just I think
it's very cool. Yeah, what about

944
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:53.279
you, Alex, what'd you take
away with all your research? What was

945
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:59.960
your big takeaway that peasants can't eat
dragon? Well, I knew that,

946
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.800
Uh you knew that. Probably just
how old the myth is, I think.

947
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:08.159
Yeah, I didn't realize it went
so far back. And I really

948
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:13.640
like the the religious connections and the
stories told in different ways, and it's

949
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.079
kind of like it's very on brand
for Bloodsoe said so, So it was

950
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:19.720
cool to come across that in my
research. Yeah, the Babylon part was

951
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:24.880
the most exciting part. Yeah.
Nice. All right, Well let's go

952
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:32.359
whip out last week's episode. Yeah, bye, guys, guys, weird

953
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:47.159
things happened in the backyard of bloodshow
House. It was so weird coming closer

954
01:10:47.279 --> 01:11:04.800
to that, like smiling on the
inside of it. No one knows manolescome

955
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:25.239
for I ever did Sor a happy

