WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:06.639 Steve Raverera and Jacin Salles. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson 2 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:12.240 Sports Stage yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to win the 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:15.599 ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta, he's Jacin's aws. 4 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:20.280 Now we got our guy Ryan with breaking news and Lisa his eye on 5 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:26.640 the ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I just wanted to start 6 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.399 off with the media day for tomorrow. I just wanted for anybody who's interested 7 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:34.880 in watching. It starts at one to twenty Pacific Standard time. It'll be 8 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:39.920 available on ESPN plus one one. Well, he's so he's going to be 9 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:46.679 doing an interview that Arizona. That's Arizona. But that the whole thing starts 10 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:51.119 at Uh, there's some things at ten o'clock in the morning there there the 11 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:55.280 CFP executive director will be there. Uh, stuff like that. But the 12 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:59.920 coaches Press conference has started eleven with Dione Sanders. I want to looking for 13 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.159 and they are you go to Yes, what you need to do is you 14 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:04.920 need to get a subscription to ESPN Plus. That's the first thing you need 15 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:07.640 to do if you're gonna watch, you know, for everybody who's saying, 16 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:14.239 where am I gonna watch baseball and softball and gymnastics and those things that I 17 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.159 used to watch on Pack twelve networks too? You hated it, but now 18 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.480 you miss it right because it was easy to go on your on your cable 19 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.599 and and and call these unless you have drag GV. The ESPN Plus is 20 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.799 the place you got to get a subscription. I think it's ten bucks a 21 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:32.439 month. You go on there and and you subscribe to the Big twelve Conference 22 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.959 because there's a you know, you can go to all the and you click 23 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:38.519 on the Big twelve Conference logo and all the stuff comes up. So you 24 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.959 even go there today you can see all the coaches press conferences. For some 25 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:45.400 reason, they didn't put Brett Yormark's press conference up there because I wanted to 26 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.959 see the whole thing because I'm seeing all these posts about things that he said. 27 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:53.519 But and then you can also watch it live. The press conferences are 28 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:59.840 only on ESPN Plus. On ESPNU is where they have the studio show and 29 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.319 they bring in the coaches, did an interview them. That's what I saw 30 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:06.400 today, And and they'll and they'll start at uh, they'll start at also 31 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:12.000 at eleven o'clock. I think coach Coach Brendan and uh Noah Afeta, they're 32 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:16.479 going to be on those right shows tomorrow right before the exactly exactly just want 33 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:21.280 to bitch of that. So I'm gonna h switch over to MLB. So 34 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:27.240 next week is All Star Week, but it's also the MLB Draft And according 35 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.919 to ESPN, the final twenty twenty four MLB Draft rankings came out the top 36 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:37.280 two hundred and fifty prospects. Jackson Kent is on that list. He's number 37 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:42.960 on the U A guy, right, yep, what's what's his position? 38 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:46.520 Is a piccher? Yeah? He was the Friday night pitcher right, so 39 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.080 yeah, yeah, the Friday night pitcher. Okay for that last the other 40 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:55.000 last series. Yeah. See the only guy is he the only Tucson or 41 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:59.960 Arizona guy, the only Arizona guy you know who? See Nick Sozalez the 42 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.360 still up there? Yeah, playing with you. He's now in my fantasy 43 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:09.759 team. Oh, I'm gonna call my st Hey. I turned it on 44 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.400 yesterday because the Mets and the Pirates had a like nine game. It started 45 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:17.919 at nine thirty in the morning our time, So I got to my desk 46 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:21.400 you know, to start doing my work. And I turned it on and 47 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.919 he's up and he doubles off the wall, we're down the line, knocks 48 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:29.120 in a run and he's activated by you. Yes, he's my active he's 49 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.759 my active shortstop. Well you're the blind squirrel that gets that guy. Yeah, 50 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:36.039 I got him. I got him. Well, we'll see what happens. 51 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:42.520 It'd be nice to see you see a Tucson guy get drafted and uh, 52 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:49.120 well I asked another Tucson guy drafted email b Okay Jay Price all this, 53 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:53.360 but uh Dodger's picture tell last now is on the fifteen day. Iow, 54 00:03:54.319 --> 00:04:00.240 really, I didn't see that with what back stiffness or back tightness that's 55 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.719 all they need right now. They're they're pitching staff. It's so beat up. 56 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:10.520 You know, they have they have two bullpen bullpen days in their rotation 57 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.159 now, not just one. You know, the other day guy started, 58 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:17.160 I'd never heard of who's that? I remember his name? I existly, 59 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:19.839 I don't. I don't even remember his name, you know. But these 60 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:24.439 guys that come in, you know, they pitch two Indians two innings and 61 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:28.000 go through a game and they you know, I don't know who these guys 62 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.319 are. I mean, they've got just a couple of pictures left. Actually, 63 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.720 the two pitchers left that they've got that are decent are both on my 64 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:39.639 fantasy team. But they're both pretty good and they're doing really well. James 65 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.040 Paxton and oh god, I can't even think of the other guy's name. 66 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.199 Huh, the older hasn't been pitching. No, he's been. He's been 67 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.879 on the side. Kind of can't even think of the other guy's name. 68 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:57.160 But oh croud see, I'm I'm an idiot for not being able to remember 69 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.199 that. But anyways, so no, they they they're they're pitching staff a 70 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:01.439 mess right now. I mean, there's still in first place, in the 71 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:06.319 first place by a lot, but you know, it's a it's a struggle. 72 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.000 No, they got they gave up twelve runs the other day to the 73 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.720 freaking Giants or somebody like that, or the Diamondbacks, the Diamondbacks, like 74 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:17.920 crap. I mean, we could beat the dime. We could get nine 75 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:26.000 guys together in here and beat the Diamondbacks. He could even take Chris Cursus, 76 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:30.160 What did I do? What did I do? What did I say? 77 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.399 Gavin Stone is the picture I was trying to think of Gavin Stone. 78 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:40.800 Those two guys are you know, they're they're they're doing great, but they've 79 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:46.360 only got two guys. I'm hoping hoping they beat the Phillies this week because 80 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.759 we're playing the d Backs. I'm hoping that. Yeah. I don't feel 81 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:53.519 good about them going to play the Phillies. That's the way time I'm going 82 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:57.759 to reform. Okay, I'll take it a little bit of NFL news. 83 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:04.240 Just somebody came across Brett Favre looks to revive defamation suit versus Shannon Sharp. 84 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:10.480 I guess there was a case, all right, said Shannon Sharp said something 85 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:16.000 back in twenty two September on his show of Skipp and Skipp and Shannon Undisputed. 86 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.680 What did you say? He was talking? He was talking about five 87 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:25.959 Let's see the quote is taking from the Undeserved. I guess, oh from 88 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.600 that? From that, Oh yeah, we're Mississippi. Yeah, I remember 89 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:33.120 that. Did he get cleared for that? I guess he must have if 90 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:38.319 he's gonna sue because I thought he was still in the judge and Mississippi throughout 91 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:45.199 the lawsuit. In October and same Sharp constitutionally picked the speech on sports podcast 92 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:50.639 when he criticized FIV sure looking to bring it back up. Yeah, okay, 93 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:54.360 so see if you had something Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I 94 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.360 just came across this. I guess this is about a month old. Uh. 95 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:01.720 Some guy his name is a shore Callahan from West Virginia, apparently a 96 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.519 West Virginia sports writer or whatever you want to call him. He put the 97 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:13.519 twelve or the sixteen best Big twelve coaches from worst to first. Where do 98 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.079 you think where do you think Brennan was? Where do you think he landed? 99 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:24.480 Probably eight or nine, fifteen, fifteen, second worst, Dylan has 100 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:28.639 the first and here's Brett is Rents the second one. Let me see, 101 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:31.120 let me show you what he said. And it makes sense to how people 102 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.480 really don't know the stuff that happens out west, right. I was really 103 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:40.079 surprised Brennan ended up being the guy for Arizona. He didn't have all that 104 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:44.199 much success at Santisi State, posting just three winning seasons in seven years. 105 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:49.160 We'll see. So another reason why maybe there's a biased for the voters. 106 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:54.800 You have no idea, that has no idea how state correct? Right? 107 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.040 Right? Right? Well, kind of like a local guy that we ran 108 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:01.199 into not recently recently said I don't know if he's a guy he didn't have 109 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:05.720 success a TV guy, and he says, well, uh, Fish did 110 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:07.279 not have any that was that was? That was Jason Barr. Yeah, 111 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:13.480 yeah, I'm calling him out. I'm calling Jason. But even before Fish 112 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.759 took the job, you wouldn't say that about Fish because well he hadn't even 113 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:18.959 been a head coach exactly. So you know, apples to apples, right, 114 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:26.040 So Dion fourteen uh Cincinnati coach Scott Scatderfield for thirteen them she wears uh 115 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:33.519 Baylor coach twelve rounda Runda uh Texas Tech. You know you're gonna have the 116 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.639 same same guys Houston coach with Fritz Uh. So, I think I would 117 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:39.080 assume that the Oplahum Mistake coach is going to be the day. To me, 118 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:45.080 you have Kyle Whitningham Sonny Dykes, so he's like six, Kyle Weddingham, 119 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:50.919 Sunny Dykes, Bullet, Gus Gus Gus and how good of a coach 120 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.080 is Gus Malson, I mean he's five To me, you have those three 121 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.720 guys, and then everybody else is in a pile. Right the Karansas guy 122 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:07.799 three, Gundy two and Winningham. Yeah, number one, he's going by 123 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.279 records and stuff. I mean, that's easy to do. Well, we'll 124 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:13.639 see. Brennan's a pretty good coach. Yeah. In fact, it's harder 125 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:18.120 to win at a place you can't win to win it, right, Yeah, 126 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.279 you know, you go to those places. Get he got to a 127 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.879 couple of bullet You go to those places. It's like you mixed you. 128 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:24.759 You take that job in five years, guess what, you're no longer to 129 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.679 coach. You're no longer the coach. Right if you get Bavy how that 130 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.320 went, you're right? And who knows how good of a coach is. 131 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.960 But yeah, you go to Mexico State, you go to Colorado State and 132 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.240 you and you do well, you're gonna get the hell out of there as 133 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.519 soon as you're as soon as you can because you're not gonna last long and 134 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.960 you don't. Right, That's that's funny. There's no way there's fourteen coaches 135 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.679 better than Brent Brinton. Is Brent Brannan in the middle of the pack right 136 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.919 now? Probably? But are the fourteen coaches better than him in the big 137 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.039 twelve? Shut up? Right? Yeah? Okay, I just want that 138 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.639 to be interesting. But that's coach to show you that people way over there 139 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.559 don't know what goes on way over here. Right, It's gonna take a 140 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.879 lot of getting used to, you know. And again, Steve, you 141 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:03.600 and I don't know anything about most of those things, right exactly. I 142 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.600 mean, I think we think we know a little bit about about the the 143 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.000 three the other three teams that from the pack pob that went over there, 144 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.440 and beyond that, maybe TCU because there was so much in the news. 145 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.440 Maybe Oklahoma State because because uh, Mike Gundhy is, you know, is 146 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:22.720 such a visible figure. You know, the Iowa State coach, you know, 147 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.799 shows up at the press conference and I had heard his name, and 148 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:28.320 I knew Iowa State had a good season a couple of years ago. But 149 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:33.879 who you know, who's that guy? Lance Leipold was the coach that everybody 150 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.440 wanted to get last year after with Kansas. But he had a good year. 151 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.879 So how good is that guy? So there's a lot we don't know. 152 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.440 There's more, there's more that we don't know than we do, right, 153 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:50.320 and stuff that we do know. Okay, was that all you had 154 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.639 there, Senior? I'll just read reading stuff about the just about n I 155 00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:00.200 l so there's a new there's a new college like football video game coming out 156 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:03.840 next week. And you know, they had a lot of the likeness of 157 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.159 the players from college in the game. And of course they're paying the players, 158 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:09.960 right, they get six hundred bucks. We get six hundred bucks for 159 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:16.600 it. And today, Uh, previously Arch Banning wasn't going to be in 160 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:18.559 the game. He didn't want to, he didn't want to be a part 161 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.039 of it. But now he's in it. He was in a commercial and 162 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.279 like I said, it sparked some outrage of fans. Well, again, 163 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:31.360 he's a visible, you know person in college football, regardless of whether he's 164 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.720 played it down or not. You know, he's very visible. You know, 165 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:37.919 he was the number one recruit coming out of high school and all that. 166 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.080 This is his third year, right, he may not even play. 167 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:43.799 Who knows? They got that quarter? Ye have Queen yours? Yeah, 168 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.840 that's right, they still got Queen ears, so you know, who knows 169 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:52.720 when he'll play? Now I add, you know, six hundred bucks seems 170 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.240 like so little for that, but you know, I guess if you're going 171 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.720 to pay him more than you can't do the game or whatever, right, 172 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.879 Well, getting paid lots for somewhere else too, you know, and if 173 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.159 your n'ch man, he just you know, get out and get I know, 174 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.399 you don't need the money, just get out there and get your visibility. 175 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.039 And you know, people buy your stuff when you go pro and all 176 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.960 that kind of stuff. That's what that's what that's about. That's what that's 177 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.559 about marketing yourself, not so much about the six hundred bucks that you're getting. 178 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.039 Do you think that you're done right? I assume well Brownnie's Brownny situation 179 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.879 because he's getting a lot of flak. Now, I mean before, before 180 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.039 he got drafted, he cut flack. When he got drafted, he gout 181 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.919 flack. But now it's more like daddy messed up. They're gonna find out 182 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.240 he can't play. Yeah, that's the whole thing. I mean left, 183 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.919 but he'd be good in ten years maybe. Is he an NBA quality guy? 184 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.080 Is he will be an NBA quality guy between now in the next three 185 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.879 or four years? Probably not? You know, you know what you know 186 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:50.320 what you're yeah, I mean, look, he got an opportunity because of 187 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.559 his dad, and let's just say what it is, what it is. 188 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.039 And if you know, if you're lebron and you try to say, no, 189 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:01.159 he's good enough to be here. Shut up. Well, he wasn't 190 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.320 good enough to start at USC If he was Bronnie Gonzalez or Bronnie Rivera, 191 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.639 he wouldn't be there, right, No, he could. He could even 192 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:16.879 be Bronnie you know, Ronny. No, no, Bronnie Bibi. He 193 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.960 was uh. They were talking about, you know, the Michael Jordan's he 194 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.320 had sons that could play. He never even got a sniff of trying to 195 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.279 do this for his kids, trying to act him because Michael Jordan was the 196 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.559 kind of person who said, if you're not good enough, then you shouldn't 197 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.159 be here. That was his personality. And I mean he said that to 198 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.279 his teammates. He said that to teammates, right, you know you're not 199 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.080 good enough, so get the hell out of here. So he wasn't going 200 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.480 to do that for his kids. And Lebron on the other hand, and 201 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:50.759 said, I'm going to take care of my kid, which is fine, 202 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.519 It's is fine, but you know, you put him in a bad spot 203 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.600 because you're exposing him for what he is, and also puts the Lakers in 204 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.320 a bad spot because you're trying to get out of this pole, right and 205 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.000 probably won't be able to right. I mean, are they gonna cut him 206 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.120 nope? Are they gonna send Hm to g Leaku No? No, no, 207 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.960 So then what are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, you know you're 208 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.159 telling all the other guys. It doesn't matter how good you are. If 209 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.919 you know somebody, we'll take you. And that's that's not a good message 210 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.000 you sent to your to your franchise. 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I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jaginsaus. 270 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.720 Now in IFO, we have Michelle Gardner from the Arizona Republic. How are 271 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:40.000 you, Michelle? I'm doing great. How are you guys? We're doing 272 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:44.079 well. You must be busy, busy, busy in Vegas. Yeah, 273 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.720 it was a pretty It was a busy today for me. It won't be 274 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.640 as busy tomorrow, but yes, it was a pretty active day. Okay, 275 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:56.319 what was your soldier? Sources or do topics today? Covering issue or 276 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.160 the whole thing? Mostly ASU, but I want to I think that the 277 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:06.720 most interesting thing that came out of today was when Oklahoma State was up and 278 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:11.119 obviously they've got one of the potential players of the year in Olie Gordon, 279 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.200 and everybody was surprised that he actually came to Pack Pack twelve. See here, 280 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:21.599 I am They twelve media day and he was arrested I guess two weeks 281 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:26.079 ago under a suspicion of Dui, and he still they still made him available 282 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:32.279 and he came to the media day today and Mike Gundy was asked point blank 283 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.640 about that. Then he said, yes, we talked about it. We 284 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:40.480 talked about it with him. Uh. He took responsibility when the incident happened, 285 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:42.839 you know, and they decided that it was going to be good for 286 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:49.400 him to come today answer questions about the incident and then after today it's over, 287 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.599 they're moving on. So that was kind of maybe the one of the 288 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.279 more interesting things that happened today. Well similar to when they took they took 289 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:02.119 Jade Dolaura right here too, So I don't know, you know, you 290 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.960 can do that either way, right either way, but you know, it's 291 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:07.440 kind of good, you know, Okay, go deal with it and try 292 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:11.119 and get past it. So I could see that. The other thing that 293 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.440 I thought was interesting is brett Ormark's comments about wanting to be in Vegas as 294 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.519 much as, you know, as much as they can, or more often 295 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.200 than you know than just a media they or whatever your thoughts on that. 296 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.039 Well, you know, when it was first announced that this was going to 297 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:29.519 be held in Vegas, I don't know if you all had the same impression, 298 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.759 but it seemed to me like the Big Twelve people were like rebelling, 299 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:37.400 how dare we have this in Las Vegas and it's not a city in the 300 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.279 Big Twelve, and how do they you know, I don't know what's wrong 301 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.759 with it. I mean, yes, it's hot here, but I think 302 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.279 it's a phenomenal place to have it. And the commissioner addressed that, he 303 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:49.759 said, you know, probably a lot of these people from some of these 304 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:55.799 schools have never been to Last eight and it's definitely a place that they want 305 00:20:55.839 --> 00:21:00.400 to have a footprint. And what better place to come. You're hanging around 306 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:04.880 some other sports writers, you know, out from the other places. What 307 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.319 do they get? What kind of vibe you get from them because you're used 308 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:14.640 to the West Coast people. Yeah, I hate to say I gravitated more 309 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.200 towards the people I already knew than the people I didn't know, but everybody 310 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.279 seemed to be having fun. Like people were milling around on the field, 311 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:26.119 and the mascots were running around on the field and taking pictures, and I 312 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:27.839 think people were really enjoying it. I mean, it seemed to be a 313 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:34.319 pretty festive atmosphere. There were cheerleaders from both different teams taking pictures together. 314 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:40.200 You had players talking to other players, Like I thought it was kind of 315 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:45.319 fun to see the interaction between the athletes and personnel from the schools. You 316 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.319 know, we only got half the coaches today, but you know, to 317 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:51.839 me, it's kind of like, I hate to say it this way, 318 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:53.599 but I'm going to it seemed like every coach had got up was like the 319 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:59.480 previous coach, with the exception of Kyle Whittingham. Maybe even Sunny Dyke six 320 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.000 out a little, but it's kind of like they're all kind of the same 321 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:06.559 guy. That's just kind of what it seemed like to me. And I'm 322 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.960 saying that is because I think all the teams are very similar, right, 323 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:14.799 You don't want nobody really sticks out. Well, you know, it's coach 324 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.559 speak. They all get up there and they're all in front of everybody and 325 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:21.079 they say kind of the they do, they kind of all say the same 326 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:25.039 thing. I find the best time to get the coaches and athletes from my 327 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:29.200 particular school that I'm covering would be when they're off to the side, before 328 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.119 they're up on that stage, and that you get the canned answer that everybody, 329 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:36.799 the rehearsed answer that everybody gets. I get my best stuff when I'm 330 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:40.319 off to the side, or they have the breakout sessions when you can kind 331 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:45.839 of corral them one on one. I find that that's more favorable than the 332 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.880 whole. Like you said, the stage right, get up there and talk 333 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.480 and answer questions from national media that probably don't know anything about your team. 334 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.400 So, Michelle, I'm assuming that you we were talking to all these sports 335 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.240 writers. Did you vote for the media thing last week or two weeks ago, 336 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:03.599 whatever it was. I actually did not vote that. I feel like 337 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.440 I knew enough about the other team to put forwards. I mean, obviously 338 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.519 I know the former Pac twelve two pretty well. I watched quite a bit 339 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.519 of football, but I just didn't I don't fell I didn't feel like I 340 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:19.640 knew enough about like returning players, the transfer portal guys that I could just 341 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:23.359 be the you know, the person to make a vote. There point, 342 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.400 because I would not have put asu laugh though I can tell you that I 343 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.279 would not have put them last. Well that's loose to my point though that 344 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.359 I think that a lot of people out here didn't get a chance to vote, 345 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.400 or didn't weren't asked to vote, and a lot of the voters don't 346 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.319 know enough about the issues the Arizona's the other schools, because they, like 347 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:44.400 you, don't know enough. Absolutely, how many games do you think people 348 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.160 in Manhattan, Kansas? I mean, we all know the PAC twelve network 349 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.640 and it's extending reach, you know, but how many how many of those 350 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.200 people in Morgantown, West Virginia were up watching a game from the West coast 351 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.519 right? And I think and that's why, I, you know, I 352 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.400 think these these polls mean nothing. But in a case like this, where 353 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.720 you've got such a new conference, I think they mean less than nothing, 354 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:12.400 like I you know, I you know. And Kenny Dillingham was asked about 355 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.680 it, and he pretty much said exactly what I asked. You would think 356 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.240 that he would say, he said, well, who else are they going 357 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.039 to put last? We were three and nine the last two years? Who 358 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:26.079 else are they going to put last. Yeah, and the players said what 359 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.519 you would expect them to say, Well, we'll just go out and show 360 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.519 them. It's just motivation. Well, we know what we've got. We're 361 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.160 working hard. So in that respect, you got you kind of got what 362 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.720 you thought you'd get. So give us a little bit of Kenny Dillingham. 363 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:44.319 Did you learn anything new from him today or approach? You know, what 364 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:45.640 did you get from him today? I guess is what I asked, what 365 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:52.119 are you writing for tomorrow or today? Well, he's always entertaining. He 366 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:55.680 is. He is an entertaining dude. I can say that. And I 367 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.680 think it's just fascinating too, just because him being such a young coach. 368 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.480 I think he really relates well to the younger guys and he's just a pretty 369 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.400 articulate guy. And he even said, you know, we're looking forward to 370 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:14.240 going and playing in schools and cities that that's that's what they eat, sleep 371 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.599 and Breathe is college football, it's a college atmosphere. It's a different environment. 372 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.519 And he says, we hope our fans go to those games, experience 373 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.440 that environment, experience and then bring it back and try and recreate the same 374 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.400 thing. So yeah, he's always And I asked him at the end of 375 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.079 the day, I said, are you getting talked out? And he said, 376 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.359 oh, I could. I could go on for another hour or two, 377 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:37.839 and he said, don't give him any ideas. So let me ask 378 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.160 you a weird question. So you've covered the team for a long a while 379 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.400 now and this coach specifically for at least a year, right, Is he 380 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.519 the guy? Is he the guy that's going to move the needle and move 381 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:53.319 them forward? I think so. I think when you have you have a 382 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:57.559 guy that's going to invest. He's invested in this school because it's just it's 383 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:03.680 where he went, It's team he grew up rooting for. I think you 384 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:08.440 do a lot better in a scenario like that where somebody's got an invested you 385 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.680 know, he's invested in how that team in that school does, as opposed 386 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.680 to I hate to say, getting a cartpet bagger like HERM Edwards a few 387 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:21.640 years ago that has no clue about the landscape of the local area, what's 388 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.480 involved in recruiting athletes here. I think that you definitely get something that you 389 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:33.119 don't get when you hire somebody that's completely foreign to the environment, foreign to 390 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.880 the school. Foreign to the landscape of that particular community, and he's got 391 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:42.400 an energy and a passion that is unrivaled. I don't know of anybody that's 392 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:47.799 got the drive, the passion, the energy that Kenny Dillingham has. And 393 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:51.839 like I said, I think one of the biggest draws for him is that 394 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.680 he can relate to these players on their level because he's not that far removed 395 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:57.440 from being a college student. So along those lines, because we just talked 396 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:02.400 about it, Jay's the residentian in this room here, going back to you 397 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.200 know, before Dictomy and all that, and then they got Macovic and the 398 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.839 guy set him back a while, and then they got summoned, set him 399 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:15.599 back for a while. Herm set him back for how long though, Well, 400 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.599 when you look at he had the recruiting, the whole the recruiting alleged, 401 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.720 well not they're not alleged. They happened, okay, the violations, 402 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:27.039 and Kenny's living with that, Okay. He's had a reduction in scholarship, 403 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:33.319 he's had to cut kurtail. I think they had to cut four weeks out 404 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.880 of their recruiting time this year between April and August. That's a significant amount 405 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.519 of time. So Kenny Dillingham is living with it right now. So if 406 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:48.119 you're talking setting them back, you know you're talking at least three years, 407 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.000 four years in counting, you know, from going back to when this whole 408 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:56.839 recruiting the recruiting issues started, which would have been in COVID in twenty twenty. 409 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.119 So we're at least looking four years. And you know, until you're 410 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:06.799 past the sanctions, you're still behind the eight ball, if you know what 411 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.799 I mean, right right, no, I hear you. And then and 412 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.920 that's the thing I mean, you know, because I know, you know, 413 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.039 fans get caught up. Oh we got to get an Arizona guy, 414 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:15.720 We got to get an a su guy. In richest case. You're not 415 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.519 a Michigan man, you know, but there's something to that, uh to 416 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.559 a degree, because you know, you know, you never felt like like 417 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:29.039 uh uh HERM Edwards or as as you said, HERM Edwards, I say, 418 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.599 you know, Kevin, someone you never felt like they were here for 419 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:38.240 anything other than the check and and that was you know, as a fan, 420 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.240 you go, you want somebody to care about this program at least as 421 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.160 much as you do. And if you're the head coach, you should care 422 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:52.319 more and these guys didn't do that. Absolutely, I agree with you. 423 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.519 And again, I think the COVID thing was a big deal because when you 424 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.279 look at what Herm did the first couple of years, they were doing all 425 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.640 right. They were they were on a pretty good trajectory. They had improved 426 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.160 gradually in his first couple of years, and then the whole COVID thing hit 427 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.880 and then we all know what happened there. But I think that one of 428 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.599 his biggest flaws. There were two big flaws I think with Herm that kind 429 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:21.000 of started the ball rolling downhill, so to speakless. One he trusted Antonio 430 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:25.799 Pierce too much. He gave the guy way too much leeway, more way 431 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:30.359 too much power, and Antonio kind of ran ran the train off the tracks. 432 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.200 That was one. And then the second thing, a mistake that I 433 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:38.079 think he made was giving Jayden Daniel's mother free reign of tempe Like you got 434 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:42.000 to cut that. When you've got a mother interfering like she did, you 435 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.880 better cut that off the minute it happens. You think that happened at LSU, 436 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:51.519 I'm not thinking that Regina Jackson walked into a quarterback's meeting on the campus 437 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:59.960 of LSU Wow, those were the two things I think that Marehem's biggest flaw. 438 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.240 And then, like I said, I like what Kenny's done. I 439 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.079 think if they can go five hundred this year, and when you look at 440 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.599 last year, they could have very easily been five hundred last year because they 441 00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:14.039 had three games that they should have won. So if they were six and 442 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.240 six last year, maybe it's a little bit of a different narrative. So 443 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:21.200 we're going to have the asuad here in a few days. We schedule him 444 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.640 sometimes, So you just had a big I think an interview with him not 445 00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.480 long ago, recently. In fact, what are we expecting from him? 446 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.960 You know what? I like him. I mean, he's an easy guy 447 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:36.839 to root for. I understand why ASU people kind of went nuts about the 448 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.119 higher When you have the problems that they've had in their athletic department, the 449 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.359 last thing you probably want is to hire somebody that's already in that department. 450 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:51.799 You'd probably rather go out and get somebody with some experience that's in another program 451 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:56.279 that's not dysfunctional. But I kind of like the more I talk to him, 452 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.400 the more I like what I hear from him, And I think in 453 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.640 the same the same thing we can say about Billingham, you can say about 454 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.440 Grammercini is he's invested in this. You know, it's a school that he 455 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.680 went to. I like what I've seen out of him, and he was 456 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:15.400 out there today talking to people, and I think that people just need to 457 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.079 give the guy a chance. And I know your people went nuts over there 458 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.400 and they just love the hire because they thought it was great because it just 459 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:27.519 would make ASU worse because I know how y'all think out there. But I 460 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:32.240 think people have to give the guy a chance, okay before you you know. 461 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.440 And I think the other thing that made as U people go nuts was 462 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.000 the fact that Croke came out and said that he didn't interview anybody else for 463 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:45.599 the job. So I think those were the two things that made ASU fans 464 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.720 go nuts and basically lose their lunches. A. It's a guy from within, 465 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:55.119 and B you didn't even talk to anybody else. But now that I've 466 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.599 had a chance to sit down talk to him, watch him, I liked 467 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.119 the higher. I think he'll be all right, but people need to give 468 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.039 him a chance. Well, not all Arizona fans are Corilla Daville, and 469 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.039 they're not waiting for the device. But I hear you. I hear you. 470 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.680 You've been down here a time or two. They just they just treat 471 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:19.119 Bobby Hurley that way. That's all okay. So again Steve asked about, 472 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.480 you know, sort of the vibe in terms of the coaches. You know, 473 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.880 like you said, everybody got up and said the same thing. We're 474 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.920 happy with the Big Twelve and what we've done. We think restaurant conference, 475 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:34.759 YadA, YadA, YadA. But you know, I feel like every one 476 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:38.200 of them thinks that they can win this league because it's really so even Well 477 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.680 maybe well Kenny Dillingham is going to say that, but does he really think 478 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.960 they can win the league? I don't know. But that's kind of a 479 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.759 sense that you get, is like everybody feels like there's a whole new life 480 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.839 because Texas and Oklahoma are gone, and for the Pac twelve schools, USC 481 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.599 and Washington in Oregon, they're all gone. I mean, do you sense 482 00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.240 that among the coaches? Yeah? I do. I mean, but I 483 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.799 mean I think it's I think it's like anything where you take your top five. 484 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.960 Okay, so it's a sixteen team conference, take your top five. 485 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.599 Then you've got maybe a middle five to six, and then you've got a 486 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.799 few on the bottom. I think that, I think. And the other 487 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.839 thing that when you look at ASU, they've got a very tough schedule, 488 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.359 and you know, if you look at it, numbers wise teams that made 489 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.400 Bowls, teams in their records last year as you've got the toughest schedule in 490 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.720 the Big Twelve, So that probably doesn't help them in that regard, you 491 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.960 know. So yes, I think that I think that I think there are 492 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.200 going to be a lot of close games though, and I think you've got 493 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.559 a lot of teams playing each other that haven't played each other in a while, 494 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.720 so there's going to be a little bit of a feeling out process. 495 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.400 ASU has played Oklahoma State the last couple of years, so that's been kind 496 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.000 of interesting the fact that they now get to play Oklahoma State and that's a 497 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:57.319 team that they're not completely unfamiliar with. But the other thing I think with 498 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.559 ASU, and it's one reason that you know, it's per be easy to 499 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.079 peg them last, not just because of their recent history, but there's an 500 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.360 uncertainty around the quarterback position, and if there's any position that you don't want 501 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:14.599 to have uncertainty it's it's a quarterback position. So I understand why people put 502 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.079 them last. I wouldn't have done that, but I understand it. Are 503 00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:20.920 you there for another day? Are you there staying for tomorrow? Oh? 504 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.519 Yeah, I'll be there tomorrow. I'm gonna I'm gonna work on some other 505 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.840 stuff and so yes, I will be here tomorrow too. Okay, Well, 506 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.639 good luck over there and have a little fun and it's busy. Thank 507 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.360 you Michelle anytime. Yeah. Michelle Gardner from there was on the Republic a 508 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.679 lot of fun. She was very honest in the assessment of Arizona fans. 509 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.719 She knows I felt the same way that she thought that. I mean, 510 00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.239 they could have hired this guy months ago. Yeah, that was the thing. 511 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.639 And you know, I can see when an ASU fan would be upset 512 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.960 with that. Wait, wait, what took so long? If this was 513 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.079 the guy who were going to hire all the long? Right, but that'll 514 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.920 happened? Or is he a fallback? We'll talk about that because I have 515 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.639 a question for you on the other side. Okay, sounds good, We're 516 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.559 right back. 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Hey, welcome back to my I 558 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.440 on the Ball here Fox Sports forteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jaginsaus. 559 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.960 Got a guy Ryan with us for the next fifteen minutes. If you 560 00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.360 want to call five two oh four, one six, seventy four forty. 561 00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.639 So my question to you, Jay, and I kind of already know the 562 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:29.960 answer. I'm going to try to catch it, not in a in a 563 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.599 tilted way. So we've we've often heard, Uh I already kind of said 564 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:39.000 this that issues President Crow kind of doesn't give a crap about sports. Yes, 565 00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:44.880 do you think that's true? And it's that part of the problem of 566 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:50.360 where they're at right now. I wouldn't. I'm not gonna say he doesn't 567 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:55.239 give a crap about it, but I will say that I don't know he 568 00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.840 that he puts as much emphasis on it is a lot of the other schools. 569 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:05.320 You know, He's got one of the biggest universities in the country, 570 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.960 in the world, right, you know, and that's what that's what's on 571 00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.519 his mind, not do we have a big football team. So I'm not 572 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.000 gonna say that he doesn't give a crap. I think he gives a crap, 573 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.599 but I don't think it's as high on his priority list as it say, 574 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.159 Arizona USC Utah, for sure. Do you think because it's not at 575 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:34.360 that level, these are the results? Uh? Yeah, Because you know 576 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.559 he went and got Ray Anderson and and and and and her Edward, which 577 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.320 didn't make much sense, which made no sense. He thought, yeah, 578 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.960 this can work. You know, it didn't put as much thought into it, 579 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.800 and then you know clearly didn't put Look, we're gonna talk to the 580 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:51.719 CU A D. We keep saying that, I hope it really does happen, 581 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.239 but you know, it's kind of like, okay, let's let's go 582 00:39:54.239 --> 00:40:00.639 ahead and do this. You know, it certainly looks like he doesn't, 583 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.159 right, because you're asking the question, does he give a crap or not? 584 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.199 And you're asking the question to you, it apparently looks like he doesn't 585 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.679 really care. I think that it's much. It's it's one kind of proves 586 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.719 the other. Uh, and let me go this other way though, And 587 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.039 we think, I think we think, I don't know to say the world 588 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.199 of doctor Robbins. Here he's been on the show. We love having them 589 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.760 on the show. How long he lasts as the president, we don't know. 590 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.840 But he was kind of like the polar opposite of krow Right, it's 591 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:29.840 sports matter to him, sports matter to him, and it and here we 592 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:31.960 are where we're at. Well, let muse a cliche. I think in 593 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.320 Micro's Michael Crow's world, he feels like he's got bigger fish to fry, 594 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:43.320 and it's more academically right, and it's it's growing the university, making it 595 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:51.159 wherever, you know, to whatever place he thinks the university himself belongs in 596 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.960 the hierarchy of universities. And and it's football just and athletics just need to 597 00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:00.679 come along with that as a part of it, as opposed to in some 598 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:05.639 cases where other schools where it drives it. In Alabama, it drives you 599 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.599 from you know, you know the University of Alabama because of its football. 600 00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:15.880 You know, like Michigan is an incredible school, but more people know Michigan. 601 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.039 I think a lot of people know Michigan as much about football as about 602 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.239 act. I didn't know Michigan was a great academic school until my kids started 603 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.000 applying to colleges and their friends and you were hearing that Michigan is really hard 604 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.400 to get into. Same thing with UCLA, right, UCLA is a tough 605 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:36.719 school to get into. And so you know where today I know it used 606 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.440 to be a big deal right to them, how big a deal is UCLA 607 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:45.119 football to the administration of u c l A that they said, okay, 608 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.559 we'll go with usc because you know, we just don't want to stay here, 609 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.480 right, You don't feel like UCLA was like okay, let's all you 610 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.760 know, let's go, you know. So I think I think it shows 611 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.639 in the results that you have, you know, with your programs, right 612 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.639 and in Arizona is is not at the elite level of sports, but it 613 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.920 is pretty good. Yeah, and it was. It's been like that for 614 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.239 a while, even under Weaver, even though she was kind of a train 615 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.840 run for this pling place. Uh and and and what about the boss now, 616 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.199 I mean the president Robinson. It was a big deal to him. 617 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.960 Yeah, you know, it is a big deal to him. And I've 618 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:23.840 you know, I've told a story a bunch of times where you know, 619 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:27.280 I went to interview him for a story for BI Tucson. When he got 620 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.280 here, I had profile him and I had X amount of time to do 621 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.840 the interview, and I got through it and talked all about business. Yeah 622 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.800 yeah, And then he goes, are we going to talk about sports? 623 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.320 He wanted to talk about right, So it is a big deal to him, 624 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.800 and I think it showed. And look at what the program has been 625 00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:50.159 with, you know, with the exception of the mistake they made on on 626 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.599 Kevin someone. But you know, we just last year we were talking about 627 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:58.639 how all the programs are kind of you know, the cloud lifted, right, 628 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.760 Yeah, I guess you could always there's always one way to skin a 629 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.199 cat part of the punch. Well, look, Arizona, you know, 630 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.000 from a football standpoint, is not at the top of the heap. Yet 631 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:14.320 they had one great season you know this last year that really great and I 632 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.559 guess you could call it great for ariz own purposes. You know, Oregon 633 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:22.360 does that all the time. But you know, you feel like that's that's 634 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:28.760 a result of putting some thought into Like again, you know who thought Jed 635 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.840 Fish was a good higher at the time. Nobody he did. Well, 636 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.639 Yeah, because he's the one that did the higher right, he did and 637 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:37.320 it turned out well for him. Now could have crashed and burned, but 638 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.880 it didn't. So you have to give him credit for for for the vision 639 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.119 of going and getting a guy like Jedfish thinking he's the right guy at this 640 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.280 time because he's the guy who will come here and build this thing with the 641 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.039 connections that he has, the NFL profile that he had and all those things. 642 00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.719 And you know, to put that kind of thought into that higher it 643 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.719 looks like you put a whole on thought than than Michael Crowe put into hiring 644 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.039 Ray Anderson and and herm Edwards up at h up at a s U. 645 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.159 Yeah, so I don't know. There's a lot of ways of looking at 646 00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.800 it, Steve, but I think that you know, you get you get 647 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.480 what you pay for when it comes to stuff like that, right. And 648 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.159 I know that people are excited about Kenny Dillingham because they feel like, here's 649 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:27.119 a guy with a passion for for a SU and you need to have that. 650 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:31.559 You can't coach football in this environment if you don't really care about it. 651 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:36.480 And Kevin someone proved that you and he didn't even have to deal with 652 00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.360 nil and all that crap. He just came here and crapped all over the 653 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:45.239 place and and didn't care and he and he dragged the program into the ditch 654 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.599 right. Well. In fact, the last the coaches that we had talked 655 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:53.559 about, they all cared about it. Maybe Macavate not so much. Mike 656 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:59.679 Stoops cared about coaching, right, just coaching on the field. He cared 657 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.840 about You know, that guy was as intense as anybody. Well he was 658 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:07.119 in the rich Rod neighborhood. When it came to the intensity on the field, 659 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:09.800 he didn't want to do all the other stuff. So, you know, 660 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.079 did that make him a bad coach? It made him a bad head 661 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.480 coach. But you know, I thought what they were doing on the field, 662 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:22.280 the physicality of their teams, the quality of players you had, you 663 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.519 know, guys like uh, you know, Nick Foles and and uh, 664 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.920 you know, just all those guys that they had, the defensive players that 665 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.719 they had. You know, you felt like he really did. He did 666 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.119 care about all of that, but he didn't like all the other stuff that 667 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.599 that had to come with it, and that was his downfall, you know 668 00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:45.760 at Arizona. Well, you know, the thanks for the administration now because 669 00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:47.320 they're moving forward in a good way with all the coaches they have now. 670 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.039 Yeah, and look, you know, you feel like, you know, 671 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.639 the jury is still out on Desiree read Francois, you know, because she's 672 00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.960 brand new. You know, she's doing a lot of stuff. Right, 673 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.760 we don't know what all this means yet. Part part of the problem. 674 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.000 Go ahead, I don't know. Well I'm just kidding. We don't know 675 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.039 what it all means yet, and well we'll eventually find out. We don't 676 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.239 know, right, part of the problem, and then she's gonna end up 677 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:14.400 facing this because she's making changes. Right. But if you have a bad 678 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.920 situation, what else can you do but make the changes? Right, you 679 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.320 have to because the changes they weren't working, then, right, you have 680 00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.880 to do something different, right, and that's what she's doing. Yeah, 681 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:29.840 the question is are those are the different things good or not? The over 682 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:31.519 corrections again, right, you go and try to do well this. We 683 00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:35.679 know this didn't work. Let's try it with this with some of my people. 684 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.599 Right, let's focus not an over correction of the magnitude of John McNett 685 00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:44.519 correct or eighties. I mean, obviously we were spoiled when we had to 686 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:51.320 cover god, uh back in the day eighties. Come on, tell me 687 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.199 send Dey who was great? Who's great? And then Jim came in, 688 00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.079 who was a good, fair guy. I did a good job, maybe 689 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.079 made a bad decision here or too. Yeah uh. And then uh, 690 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.800 Dave Hekey was Jim living good you know, Jim living good part too. 691 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:07.840 Yeah. Yeah, No, that's a good point and good point at the 692 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.960 level. Okay, give me give me Greg Burn. Yeah, well Greg 693 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.639 Byrne was the guy in the middle that you felt like, well, he 694 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.599 was a guy out the door too. Yes, that's what I was just 695 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.920 gonna say. He was a guy who was here building a career as opposed 696 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.199 to a guy who came here to run the best I mean, he was 697 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.159 trying to run the best program he could. He did a lot of good 698 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.400 things, but he was building a career. Sure it was rent it was 699 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:34.440 rented space. Yeah, pretty much. I agree with that. In fact, 700 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.239 I think you were in the in the in the room with me when 701 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.480 we did the story on the new facilities that they were building at the time, 702 00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.639 the little Stevens area, and I said, you're doing a great job 703 00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.719 here. Are you going to be the guy to see to the end? 704 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.320 And what's he going to say? Of course I am yeah, And and 705 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.679 was he? Of course we knew he was. We knew he wasn't, 706 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:58.079 so, you know, and and and and so they went back to kind 707 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.159 of the Jim living good, mam, nice guy, happy, Yeah, 708 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.639 you fit the mold, very home, you know, hometown kind of guy. 709 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.199 Uh, you know, great day to be a walk at kind of 710 00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.639 guy. And and and and then and that was working, but then they 711 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:20.079 got into a into a an era an atmosphere and in college athletics, where 712 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.679 you know you had to you had to build a Lowell Stevens, you had 713 00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:30.320 to build the the Colon Jeanie Davis Center, you had to build the Richard 714 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:37.400 Jefferson Jim And financially for Arizona, none of that was feasible, it turns 715 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.599 out, And I mean they were, they were. They were doing it 716 00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.239 with smoke and mirrors, and they did it, and they got all those 717 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.360 facilities built in Arizona's in a good position to be able to get good players, 718 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.039 good coaches and stuff. But look what it's done to them financially. 719 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.559 Do you, I was gonna say, do you eventually think that they'll get 720 00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:57.760 out of this? Uh? Well, like I said, they got no 721 00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.000 choice. Well, it depends on how long. And we talked about take 722 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.800 a while with Robin's not gonna take eighteen to go with it. I'm sorry, 723 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.880 doctor Robins, with all due respect, eighteen months is too short. 724 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:12.679 And that was that was kind of maybe just wanting to shut us up. 725 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.079 But that everything's okay, Jay, don't worry about it. We got it. 726 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.960 We got this right. Well, we know that that's not the case. 727 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.679 Yeah, we got this. Well wait, okay, I I hope 728 00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:24.800 you do, but I don't think you do so anyway. And then and 729 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.199 then you know again that gets us too. You know, I'm just I'm 730 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.480 reading Ross Dellen, was reading Ross Ellender's story on on on Me today, 731 00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.320 you know, big to me today. He's there and just talking about Bret 732 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.320 or Mark and how he's just out there and you're just saying, you know, 733 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.679 we're not taking a back seat to anybody. We're gonna do things. 734 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:51.880 There's an aggressiveness about him that you hope is productive, right, You hope 735 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.000 that along the way they don't make decisions that screw things up. But so 736 00:49:55.159 --> 00:50:00.679 far, so far, you know, it looks good what he's doing. 737 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.599 You know, there's a in this article, there's kind of an intimation that 738 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.679 you know, because we know that who wrote it, Ross Dallinger. Oh 739 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.599 okay, yeah, who sports about Okay? You know, uh, you 740 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:16.360 know he's kind of saying, he kind of said in a yeah you had 741 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:21.639 you have to read between the lines on this that Ray Ormark is he's going 742 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:25.840 to go after Florida State and Clemson who went on who And they're not they're 743 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:30.000 not wanted in the Big ten. So if they went out of the a 744 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.400 CEC. They're not. They don't the SEC doesn't want them, the Big 745 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.679 ten doesn't want them. So what's left? Right? And he said, 746 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.559 you basically said, you know, you could see brett Ormark going after you 747 00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.960 know, and can you imagine if the Big twe that would be interested in 748 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.760 the state all of a sudden, this league is you know, getting in 749 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.880 the in the SEC Big ten neighborhood, right, and that would be even 750 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:58.480 more deep, uh more deep. In fact, Michelle's talking about this how 751 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.000 Arizona's probab be in the top Well, they are in the top five this 752 00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:05.000 year in football, right right. I think they'll stay there for a while. 753 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.840 They were never going to be in the top five pack twelve or eight. 754 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.920 They would they could be in there this year and next year, you 755 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:19.320 know, you know, but not consistently because you're going to have four schools 756 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.079 uh football, really three schools football Wiites who are always going to be ahead 757 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:27.760 of the Oregon Washington US no matter what. U. C. L A 758 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.199 is kind of gone in the in the crapper, so you don't you don't 759 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.639 say them, but those three schools, so now you're really vine for two 760 00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:37.039 spots to be in the top five. That's that's a it's a bit harder 761 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.039 an to be there, sure, but they're not going to be Oregon, 762 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.599 Washington or US. They never were going to be, right, And we 763 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:45.639 talked about that a lot because there are middling. They were middling for a 764 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.320 long time. It would take a special year and the data every now and 765 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.280 again. But now it's more consistent where they can get in the they can 766 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.320 lurk at the top more often. Yeah, yeah, no, and yeah, 767 00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:00.199 they commit and then you know, you invite clumbson in Florida State if 768 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:06.000 by that time Arizona has kind of established itself, right, they're getting recruits, 769 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.639 they're getting you know, they're having good teams, and so you're you're 770 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.039 gonna welcome Clemson. All right, come along, let's go, let's see 771 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:14.199 what you got. You know, look, I'm not sitting here saying that 772 00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:15.920 that's a rumor or anything like that. I'm just saying that in this Ross 773 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.119 Dellenser article, he just kind of said something along those lines. And again, 774 00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:24.960 basketball the one that benefits his basketball, right exactly, So the soft 775 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.519 that's discounted, but softball, some of the other schools are other programs. 776 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.159 We're gonna yea from he's talking about. I'll read it. So no, 777 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:36.320 we're out of time. We got to get that out of here. Never 778 00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.199 mind, go read the Ross Dollands article, Steve and anybody else out there. 779 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.639 It's a really good recap of what's happening in a big, big twelve 780 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.000 media. I'll read it when you read my Mulkey story. I almost got 781 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.079 to it last night, and then then I got busy doing that. I 782 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:53.320 would have got some orioles and some milk. I passed on it. All 783 00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.559 right, Hey, thanks everybody for being here. We'll have some aura from 784 00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.880 big tweve media days tomorrow. Uh and uh bread Brandon, we'll be we'll 785 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.840 be talking. So we'll be sure to play his uh his press conference in 786 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.559 full by the time we get here, So be sure to come back tomorrow. 787 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:07.960 We'll see you