1 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:32,439 Tonight's guest is Matt. Matt Welcome to the show. Hey, it's a 2 00:01:32,519 --> 00:01:34,719 pleasure to be here. Vick, Well, it's great having you. Thank 3 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,400 you for your time. Matt. Please give us a brief bio in yourself. 4 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,400 I currently am a workaholic. You know, I have a few hobbies 5 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:51,359 and I do love hiking. Nothing extreme outdoors, but I do love the 6 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:57,760 outdoors, taking camping, tricks, hiking and looking at beautiful natural scenery. 7 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:01,200 Well, it's great to hear you enjoy the outdoors so much. How was 8 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:06,120 that love the outdoor is affected though after you have the encounter that you're going 9 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:14,080 to tell us about tonight, I would say it's been affected a good amount, 10 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:20,000 but I don't let it hold me back. The only stipulation I put 11 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,879 on myself would be nighttime outdoor activities. I haven't really went capping in a 12 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:30,400 while. I am looking forward to doing that here later before it gets too 13 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:35,319 cold. But you know, anytime I'm hiking and the sun starts setting, 14 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,120 I don't waste any time to hurry up and head back. You know, 15 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:43,800 anything in the daytime is good enough for me. Does that mean you can 16 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:50,560 go into the woods by yourself during daylight hours without too much trouble. Yes, 17 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,199 I've always kind of hiked that way. I used to hike with my 18 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:02,000 siblings and they were, you know a little bit different. We all kind 19 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,879 of went our own ways kind of thing. You know. I used to 20 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:10,159 take them hiking with me. But one of them likes more skateboarding BMX bikes, 21 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,599 And this is from a growing up standpoint. And you know my other 22 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:16,560 simily, she's a girl's and my sister, so she didn't really care too 23 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,719 much for the outdoors either. So eventually I just, you know, even 24 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:23,039 from a teenager, I just started going out hiking alone and got used to 25 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:27,599 it. You know, I'd walk with some earphones in. You know, 26 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,719 my mom would be like, keep one ear open at least so you are 27 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,800 aware of your surroundings. You can at least hear what's going on. You're 28 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,599 not too immersing your music. Eventually, you know, as I've grown, 29 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,680 I've just kind of gotten used to that. Sometimes I even switch it up 30 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,000 and use it as a workout and I'll put ankle weights on or maybe just 31 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:52,080 a few pounds into a backpack and just enjoy the scenery. So yeah, 32 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,039 that was really good advice. Your mother gave you. Even if you don't 33 00:03:55,039 --> 00:03:59,840 have dogs in in the area, you might have mountain wins or something else 34 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:02,840 to deal with wild hogs. So yeah, that's always a good idea to 35 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:08,039 do that. We're here to talk about your dog man encounter, of course, 36 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,960 Map, but you've got a history of having encounters with other strange things 37 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,600 as well. Well more, can you tell us about that? Yes, 38 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:21,279 Big, I've you know, encountered some pretty off the wall things that just 39 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:27,600 makes you sit there and say, we really are not alone. You know. 40 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:33,000 I've from a early you know, age around like ten eleven, not 41 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,959 necessarily puberty yet, but not a little kid where I'm five or six, 42 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:41,439 old enough to know right for wrong, and old enough to know when I 43 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,879 see something that is unnatural. Our house, our family house growing up, 44 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:50,720 had recently gotten rerinovated, and everybody has a new beginning, and you know 45 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,839 start. You know, my brother, my sister and we used to have 46 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:59,319 a bunk beat and when we were smaller, you know, my sister would 47 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:01,160 share used the bottom one, me and my brother would chair the top one. 48 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,800 This is all we were pretty small. Z was. He got older 49 00:05:04,399 --> 00:05:08,560 and the house was being renovated, took it about a year or two, 50 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,240 but that's neither here nor there. When we got our own separate rooms for 51 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:15,439 once, we didn't have beds, and so, you know, I'm laying 52 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,680 on the floor a bunch of blanket. It's kind of like a palette, 53 00:05:18,759 --> 00:05:23,480 very comfy, and I was pretty much a wall sleeper, and I would 54 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:26,680 slink to the wall. Well, I had this feeling I could not go 55 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,800 to sleep, and I was laying there is the first time being in this 56 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:34,839 room, no furniture or anything quite yet except for a lamp. And I 57 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:38,759 had this feeling just over me, like I'm being watched. I'm like that, 58 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:42,040 there's no way that can't be. So I flip over. You know, 59 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,759 I have a window that faces to the west and one that faces to 60 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,639 the north. And the one that faces to the north is a small window 61 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,560 compared to your average, you know sized window that you you know, it's 62 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:58,560 pretty large. Well, I look over and I see two red eyes, 63 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,079 and that kind of like stunned or shocked me. I was kind of like 64 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,439 I locked with the thing. I tried to get details, but I was 65 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,480 so in fear. It was like I was drawn into its eyes. And 66 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:16,199 to remind you, I'm about ten or eleven at this time, so again 67 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:19,800 old enough to know right from but still, you know, I still consider 68 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:24,959 ten or twelve is still pretty young. I was petrified. I'm not even 69 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,040 gonna lie to you. I can't remember it's form too well. It was 70 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,720 I won't say shapeless. It wasn't just like smoke, but it was solid 71 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,879 black. Of course, it's in the middle of the night, and it 72 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:42,399 was a humanoid figure. It had a head shape but no facial description, 73 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:46,040 no mouth, no ears, you know, no eyebrows, no hair, 74 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:48,879 none of that. And at the time, you know, it took me 75 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,800 even from then, it was just her hip turned around over towards the wall. 76 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,680 I finally able to break off, and I can't remember, so I 77 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,480 don't want to throw it in there, but I may or may not have 78 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,040 turned back around. But I know myself when I was a kid, and 79 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:08,879 I would have been too petrified to move to even turn around. But later 80 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 on, as I got older, I realized, you know, I'd always 81 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,920 realized it, but I didn't stop to think about it. That's the second 82 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,360 floor and there is no platforms. It's just one solid straight wall. There's 83 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:23,680 no bit of the roof, you know, or shingles or anything to stand 84 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:27,160 over there. So as I got older, it kind of got freak. 85 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,160 Girls. I was thinking, there's no way something was standing there, and 86 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:33,800 the height that it was standing at, it wasn't look like it was just 87 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:39,079 barely reaching peeking into the window. It almost had like it's I would assume 88 00:07:39,079 --> 00:07:43,800 a neck, but it was like it was looking down just slightly. And 89 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,120 again I know that sounds like, well, how could you tell there's no 90 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,920 facial description, But that's the message that I got from that. It wasn't 91 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:54,439 barely reaching it. It had no how can I say, physics or physical 92 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,519 limitation on looking into the window at that time. So Ever since then, 93 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,759 I've always kind of had your paranormal things from time to time. Not enough 94 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,600 for me to live in fear, but I think enough to remind me that 95 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:13,439 we are not alone, and it isn't just mankind that we are just you 96 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:18,360 know, the only species or only entities on this planet. I'll say that 97 00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:22,120 No, as you know now, there's a lot of other things out there 98 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,959 besides us. And speaking to that encounter you just told us about, Wow, 99 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,800 poor a guy. That's rough. When you're a kid, it's hard 100 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:35,240 enough not to mention having experience like that, I can only imagine your dog 101 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,000 mean encounter happened in Oklahoma in the middle of the night. Are you were 102 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,320 of the fact that Oklahoma is a hot spot for dog mean encounters? No, 103 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,720 vic, I did not know that growing up, and even as I 104 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,799 got older, just you know, doing activities outdoors. I thought, it's 105 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:58,360 Oklahoma. Yes, anybody in the state that anything's going on, paranormal or 106 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,759 otherwise. It's always a different state. If it's paranormal, you're thinking Nevada 107 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:09,240 or you know, the Mojave Desert or Appalachian you know, very far off, 108 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,519 secluded kind of areas where you think, now that's someplace something weird would 109 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,840 happen. I never considered Oklahoma would be the place where a hot spot for 110 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:24,480 dogmen. I came across your show a few months ago, and I still 111 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,000 kind of have a driving job, and I just love listening to it, 112 00:09:28,039 --> 00:09:31,879 like I'm listening to a radio, and I just listened to episode after episode 113 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:35,120 after episode, and so many of them, you know, Oklahoma here or 114 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,759 in this period Northeastern and I'm like, wow, Okay, dogmen are cited 115 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:46,240 pretty much all over Oklahoma. So I'm sad that those people had to see 116 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,399 it, But I'm kind of happy at the same time remind it like, 117 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,360 Okay, I'm not just the one off, random, you know person that's 118 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:56,559 seeing a dogman in the state of Oklahoma. Well, as you know, 119 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,679 dogmen are seeing all over period. Yeah, they literally are all over the 120 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:07,200 place. Unfortunately, when we spoke about your dog mean encounter for the first 121 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,600 time, I got the impression that the nightmares you suffered as a result of 122 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:13,559 that encounter just might have been harder for you to deal with than the encounter 123 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:18,679 itself. Is that an accurate assessment, Yes, big, I would say 124 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:24,279 that is an accurate assessment. When I had Dean and had my encounter with 125 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,679 the dog man, it was very frightening. It was very scary. I 126 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:35,000 mean, never seen, heard or experience any type of level fear like that 127 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,240 in my life. But at the same time, I kind of had a 128 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:43,879 how can I say, I just thought in my brain, if I avoid 129 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:50,720 that spot, I'll be okay. But the nightmares and the feeling of being 130 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,759 watched, even in other areas, was worse than the encounter itself. Not 131 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,559 to take away from the encounter, but what persisted after that for a few 132 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,080 months yes, that was definitely unpleasant. I figured that was the case. 133 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,200 If you've had a dog meant encounter would like to speak with me about it, 134 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,039 whether I'm private or on the show, please go to dog Meet Encounters 135 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,200 dot com and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot siding and would 136 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,399 like to be a guest on one of my two Bigfoot shows, please go 137 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:26,200 to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let me know. All right, Matt, 138 00:11:26,279 --> 00:11:30,799 please tell us about your encounter. Now give us every last detail it 139 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:37,679 comes to mind, all right, Vick. So I was driving in between 140 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:43,600 two different towns. I was driving leaving Cushing going towards Bristow about two in 141 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:48,279 the morning. And the reason that I was out was for my job at 142 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:52,159 the time. Had this job where I would travel from medical facility to medical 143 00:11:52,159 --> 00:12:01,720 facility transferring different bodily fluids so that they could be tested. And one of 144 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,879 the things for requirements for this job was it had to be drawn or you 145 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:09,559 know, collected, really early in the morning so that week they could get 146 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:15,440 the results same day. So I was familiar with being out this late at 147 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:16,559 night. This isn't a one off a curse, I know, it just 148 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:20,240 happened to be out this night. I'm out every night, almost seven days 149 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:28,039 a week, and so I typically would take different highways. I'm familiar with 150 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,960 back roads, and it's very beautiful when the sun does start coming up. 151 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:37,480 You're going through a canidpy area with trees or even a wide open field with 152 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:41,759 the sun coming in. It's very nice and relaxing for the most part. 153 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,200 And at night it could be relaxing, but you also have to be vigilant 154 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,080 or anything that could happen, you know, out on the road specifically, 155 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,759 so I thought at the time would just be deer crossing or anything like that. 156 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:56,440 You know, tire drivers was the worst of your worries at that time. 157 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:03,519 So I was driving from Cushing to Bristol and typically the route that I 158 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:09,840 would take required me to take the toll rope. Well, I had put 159 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,240 majority of my funding towards gas and at the time, I'm eighteen nineteen years 160 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:22,000 old and this is the round the summertime of twenty eighteen, and so I 161 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:26,799 didn't really think about other things like a toll pass, and so I didn't 162 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,039 have any money to put towards a toll rope or get in one's hole, 163 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:35,080 and I waited my options, you know, spend X amount of dollars on 164 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:39,279 the toll get there faster, or I can use this money on gas. 165 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,399 It's going to make me last longer through the week and I won't have to 166 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:46,840 worry about running out of gas early and get in trouble with my job because 167 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,879 I can't make it to the next site. So there were certain back roads 168 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,279 that I've never heard of, never seen, kind of like the movie Wrong 169 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,720 Turn. And I looked at it and it was only a couple of minutes 170 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,840 difference, maybe about ten minute. It's your soul more. And I thought, 171 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:05,120 I looked at the distance, all right, I'll do it. I've 172 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,080 never been down this road, but I can do it. I'll make it. 173 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:11,720 So I'm driving between Cushing and Bristol, trying to get to my next 174 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:18,360 facility. It's about two in the morning. I'm about five miles in or 175 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:26,399 so, and the terrain was pretty flat for the most part, but it 176 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:30,759 was windy here and there. So it was flat and straight, but windy, 177 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:35,279 kind of like when a snake slippers and it moves, it doesn't just 178 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,039 go in a straight path from A to B. And so at the time, 179 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,159 you know, I had a Dodge Challenger. So you know, I 180 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:46,480 used to like to here and there, go ahead and put some gas on 181 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:50,879 it, you know, I know, you know, thinking young guy Dodge 182 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:56,120 Challenger sports car. Yeah, okay, so I'm driving and I'm not listening 183 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,759 to radio, just kind of saying vigilant again. I just like to enjoy 184 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:03,080 this scenery and also be vigilant. Sometimes I get calls from my job, 185 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,360 so I try to be watchful listen for that kind of thing. Low beams 186 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:09,559 on, no reason for me to have my high beams on. I could 187 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:16,399 see pretty well, and this road would have somewhat of a canopy for a 188 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,679 few miles, or the trees would kind of lean over and touch each other 189 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:26,080 above the freeway. It's a one way each direction, and so it would 190 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,159 kind of bottleneck closer towards each town. So from Cushing it was wide and 191 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,080 open, and then it would narrow up kind of going into that canopy. 192 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:39,080 And here and out it would just have multiple little pastures off to your left 193 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:43,120 or right. And this area there's there is not a single straight light, 194 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:48,039 and there's not any houses. There's no houses. If there are, maybe 195 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:54,000 there's a gravel road that would probably pour out you go off for maybe a 196 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,879 mile. You know, this is the type of place where people think, 197 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,879 if I don't want neighbors, then this is where you would typically want to 198 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:06,399 go. And so there's no street lights, no turnoffs, no gas stations, 199 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,279 nothing, absolutely nothing. So when I say pitch dark, if you 200 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:11,840 wanted to get out your car and turn your car off and look up at 201 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,120 the sky at the stars, you could do that and you could see it 202 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:22,480 perfectly fine. The light pollution was basically zero. And so I'm driving it 203 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,799 had one of those pastures, you know, canopy and then pasture, and 204 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:30,799 for some reason, you know, I'm looking. You know, I've done 205 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,360 this before. The moon's out pretty well. I don't remember if it was 206 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,000 a full moon, but for the most part it probably was close to because 207 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,799 the moonlight was, I mean excellent. Either my eyes thought was really good 208 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:45,840 at that time, or it was just very bright just off the moonlight alone, 209 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:49,480 and that was pretty much the only light other than my low games from 210 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:55,600 my car. And you know, at this point, again, i drive 211 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,279 it and I'm used to looking off and look at fields every now and then 212 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:03,200 say wow, that's big property. And I look over to my right just 213 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,240 slightly, and you know, my brain isn't really triggered at the moment I'm 214 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:10,440 looking, and it's the moonlight hits the trees. You can see a silo 215 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,079 over tree. It's black. It's dark, and it looks like a tree. 216 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,079 And the fields though with like weed or grass or anything like that, 217 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,839 like any kind of agriculture, kind of comes off as as white. So 218 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,680 to say, you know, the daytime looks gold when the sun hits it, 219 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,039 but at night, when the moonlight hits, it's kind of silver color 220 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:32,000 looking, so you could tell light, and then you can see the trees 221 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,160 dark. Well. I look out to my right in a passage is one 222 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,759 of these ordinary pastures, and I see something and for some reason, you 223 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:45,799 know, most times I'm just blow it off like that whatever, But I 224 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,000 kept thinking about it as I'm approaching doing probably this is about a sixty again 225 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,359 very slow highway. It's it's one way, but since it's night, I 226 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,079 try to be cautious. And it's also like I said, for every now 227 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,559 and then it would occur, it would here and there at left, right, 228 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,720 left, right, So I didn't want to go too fast and get 229 00:18:03,759 --> 00:18:08,079 into a type of any type of trouble or getting off the road or losing 230 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:14,200 traction, and so out of my curiosity, it's just a little bit, 231 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,400 not much, probably drop it down about fifty or so, just a little 232 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:22,160 bit above fifty. And the way the road lined up right next to this 233 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,599 pasture. I was just coming out of one of those wines, and I'm 234 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,279 looking and my brains thing is, what is this Is that is that scarecrow? 235 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:37,319 Or it's too short for a tree, and it's too tall for a 236 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,400 person, and it's not close or even remotely next to the tree line, 237 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,160 and it's not in the dead center of the field. So it's not a 238 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,440 scarecrow. And I've I've seen them, but typically that that's kind of phased 239 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,119 out, that's neither here nor there. And I looked in the in the 240 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,440 right as I'm thinking this, as I'm about to, you know, my 241 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:02,880 hands are on the wheel and I'm about to say whatever. That wine had 242 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:07,680 ended, and it was my headlights kind of went out just to tab it 243 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:15,240 into the field, and it caught this thing's attention and it swung around. 244 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:22,079 It swiveled so it was facing the tree line like it was looking for something 245 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:26,119 or watching something and the tree line, but it was standing in the middle 246 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,279 filth, and it swung around to the right and it how can I say, 247 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:34,680 like it's upper torso. Everything swung like it was on a swivel left 248 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:38,480 arm, right arm. Torso had everything faced right, but its legs were 249 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:41,720 still facing the tree line, just off the way that it moved. It 250 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:48,640 didn't make a full direction. It swung around and looked dead into my soul. 251 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,559 It didn't feel like it was looking at my car. It didn't feel 252 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:59,680 like it was looking at something unfamiliar. It locked in with my eyes and 253 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:04,559 it felt like I was being looked through. It did not feel like I 254 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,839 was spotted or being watched. No, it felt like it looked through me. 255 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:12,720 It was trying to get me to acknowledge that I see you, and 256 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:15,880 I know that you can see me, and I want you to know that 257 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:21,119 I can see you in that thing or card. They know what that is. 258 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,519 I'm pretty sure they know a lot of things. And the moment I 259 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:32,039 saw it, it was like a trigger in my body that everything was calm 260 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,000 just a second ago, and the next second after seeing this, I felt 261 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:45,160 instant dread and fear, like my bones, like my body, kind of 262 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,279 when you're overcoming a fever and you're fighting a fever, your bones kind of 263 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,519 hurting their sore. I wouldn't say I was in pain or sore, but 264 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:57,160 my I could feel the fear of my bones. I don't know if you 265 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:03,480 could say the word trembling, but just trying to give myself description there, 266 00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:06,640 I could. I could feel it in my bones. It felt primal. 267 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,680 I know it's gonna sound maybe a little dumb for a lack of better turns, 268 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,079 but maybe this is what Caveman felt like when an apex predator, like 269 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:19,160 when a t works was around and you're about to get eaten. I felt 270 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:26,880 like this was something very very bad, extremely bad. I've gotten in trouble 271 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,039 at work, and you know, it's not like the same trouble when you 272 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,680 get in trouble with your parents who are growing up and you know you're in 273 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,319 trouble and they're like, oh, I'm gonna talk to you when you get 274 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,799 home. It wasn't that kind of fear you know how to handle that. 275 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,559 This was something that was so beyond me that I was stunned for a second, 276 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:48,160 and not stunned to the point where I'm slamming on the brakes. Mind 277 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,359 you, this has taken place within about five to ten seconds. But all 278 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,519 this is going I mean overclocking in my brain at at a rapid pace. 279 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,599 And the moment that I could kind of finish that second, that that thought 280 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,480 in those few seconds as I'm passing it, I could not blow this off 281 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:11,839 as oh, well, maybe it's like a deer or something. It's eyeshine. 282 00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:15,920 I know. The eyes still glowed after my car had lined up, 283 00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:19,000 after the kind of in and out, the weave in and out on the 284 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:26,359 road. Its eyes were an amber orange like a gold color, kind of 285 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:32,119 like when you look at sap or how can I say this, Like you 286 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,440 have those LEDs and you're charging something, you have green amber and red. 287 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,319 It was that exact amber glow, like led eyes or something. And they 288 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:47,319 were bright. It wasn't dim, it wasn't eyeshine. It glowed. And 289 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,720 the moment that my car straightened up on the road, it bolted to the 290 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:56,519 tree line. I wasn't sure what was gonna happen. I felt in trouble. 291 00:22:56,599 --> 00:22:57,920 It was gonna come for me, and directly you would think the quickest 292 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,319 point is from A to B. I was just gonna charge me and that 293 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,599 was it. No, it bolted to the tree line, and it was 294 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,119 so fluid when I saw it. Because when I saw this, I was 295 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,960 still freaked out in just immediately look at the road and not look at it 296 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,839 anymore. I was still thinking my head, oh my lord, what is 297 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,880 that. I've never seen anything like this before in my entire life, and 298 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,440 I'm freaking out. It bolted to the tree line, and I how can 299 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,720 I put it? You know, when joggers run or we run, or 300 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:30,880 even though if you look at a car ac we know how motion looks like, 301 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:36,440 or what physics is and how something should look or how can I say, 302 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:38,880 like lack of a better term again, but functual, how does something 303 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,720 move to get to a to b? You know? And the movies you 304 00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:45,960 know, and you see like the ghosts, they are kind of feet kind 305 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,559 of lift up and it's just one fluid motion or like magneto and he lifts 306 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:55,319 himself up and he just flows to you fluidly. It had that, but 307 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,839 it was still making contact with the ground. I could slee its legs moving, 308 00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:02,640 but it was so flew it. Now I'm in the car, my 309 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,440 windows are rolled up. I didn't necessarily hear it, like if there was 310 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,880 pounding or stomping or anything like that. But again, the way that it 311 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,400 moved, even with my windows down, how fast that moved, I probably 312 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,519 wouldn't have hurt much anyways, based on how fast it was, and it 313 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:23,160 went into the tree line. At this moment, I felt like it's on. 314 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,440 I gotta get out of here right now. And I'm a younger guy 315 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,799 again, so I've already I've played around my Dodge Challenger. I know the 316 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:36,079 endi out of this car. I've had it for a few years now, 317 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,359 i know my limits, and I've banged some corners not necessarily, like went 318 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,720 off the curve, and you know, I know when it's gonna lose traction 319 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:51,680 and when is to slow down, and what I need to do to keep 320 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,960 myself on the road. I'll just keep it at that. So I flow 321 00:24:56,039 --> 00:25:00,559 it out and I go from this fifty to sixty now, Like I said, 322 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,240 I just got out of a line. So the road's gonna be straight 323 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,519 for maybe a mile or two before it gets windy again. I flooring, 324 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,640 and I think I'm gonna leave this thing in the dust. If it's some 325 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,960 kind of dog or something like that. I'm out of here, and I 326 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:21,519 still can't fit. I felt like kind of like a spiritual tether. I 327 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:26,839 don't know. It was so dark that I think when I saw it, 328 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,440 it knew that I couldn't see it. And maybe it knows our deepest fear 329 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,720 or what we try to ignore, and it for some reason in my body. 330 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:38,240 I can't relaying that I could feel it off to my right, and 331 00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:45,240 I could feel it pacing with my car because something was right with the same 332 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:49,359 speed around sixty and sixty five and I'm trying to crawl up to seventy. 333 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,440 But again, I know at this point I'm approaching near the end of my 334 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,319 mile. It's about to get windy again. They have signs that lets you 335 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,359 know, hey, slow down, it's about to be a wine here. 336 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:03,079 And in my head and like, I want to slow down for safety reasons, 337 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,720 but I'm thinking in my head, if I get off track, if 338 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:14,119 I lose any traction or you know, it's it's one of those areas now 339 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,599 where I just left the pasture and the canopy. If I get off even 340 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,079 not even two feet three ft, I'm gonna hit a tree or worse, 341 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,519 even if I go off traction just a little bit, if I can't get 342 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,920 my tire the car sets a loof. I can't get it back. It's 343 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,319 gonna, you know, veer off to the side, and I don't that 344 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:40,799 those precious seconds. I can't afford to stick around any longer than I already 345 00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:45,839 have, and I could feel it getting closer to me. I don't know 346 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,680 how to explain it, but I felt it watching me the entire time. 347 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,960 I'm going sixty in it, and I just make it out of the first 348 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,000 wine. I floor it again. I get up to seven. This thing 349 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:04,000 is keeping pace, and at seventy I realized it doesn't matter how fast I 350 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,599 go, I'm not going to be able to speed my way out of this. 351 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,160 I have to get out of this area now and get to some kind 352 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,640 of civilization something, get into an open area where I can actually get eyes 353 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,519 on it. And there was a point where I said, well, at 354 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,160 least I can't see it. It's like it was reading my mind or something. 355 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,039 I was like, at least I can't physically see its face. And 356 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,960 I felt like the distance I felt that gap closed even more, like it 357 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,559 was looking through my passenger window and then my peripheral vision. I keep my 358 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:36,680 arms a row because again, I said, if I take my eyes off 359 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,240 for even a second, two seconds or even just half a second, and 360 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:44,160 I'm not paying attention. I'm gonna veer off, and I'm definitely cooked at 361 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,200 that point, and I could feel it's I'm again, I'm going off periph 362 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,480 roel. So I can't say I had pupils on, you know, looking 363 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,160 I looked over to my right, but I could see it come up and 364 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,839 all the while doing sixty sixty five. It's not a dead stop. It 365 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:07,000 came up to the passenger's side window, and it looked and kind of like 366 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,960 when a person's angry, you know, your eyebrows kind of bowing, you 367 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,240 know that that upset look. It looked like that, and it raised its 368 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:21,920 upper lip like when you see, uh, like when a dog gets mad, 369 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,480 but they're not they're not off, uh you know, crazy mad. 370 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,440 They're they're like a well trained dog. Like as you approach maybe somebody's your 371 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,799 friend's house growing up, or you approach a house or something that's being guarding, 372 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,400 the dog gets off of its legs and it stands up and it slowly 373 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,319 curls its lip up that you know it's not playing, and as you get 374 00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:41,440 closer, it starts to growl and show even more teeth. It did that, 375 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,720 it lifted its lips. It's high and I could tell even in mind 376 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:51,680 peripheral those teeth were sharp, and I kind of got the jitters or a 377 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,680 little bit of a ship, just kind of kind of thinking about that. 378 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:59,720 But it let me know. And then it's one swift motion, went right 379 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,480 back to the tree line and start pacing me. I knew, oh, 380 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,319 I at the point, at this point, I already knew it before. 381 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,440 But I cannot stop for anything. I have to be cautious. I hope 382 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,079 it. I'm just I wasn't sure if it was trying to pace me so 383 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,680 it could get in front of me and dump out of my car, or 384 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,079 if it was just gonna go head on through my passenger window now that it's 385 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,960 trying to let itself be known. And that didn't happen until I thought, 386 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,359 oh, well, it's dark. But you know, I try to be 387 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,720 one of those skeptical people. I didn't really see what it was. I 388 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,119 can't really say what it was. I know I saw the glowing eyes, 389 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,240 but it can't be what I think it is. I'd already thought it when 390 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,200 I saw it, but I thought, where will And it's like it came 391 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,359 up to my wind to confirm, like, no, you saw me. 392 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,920 I am a well now I know the term dog man, but I'm a 393 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,400 dog man and I saw you, and I want you to fill pure dread. 394 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,440 I felt hate it, even though I didn't do anything. I felt 395 00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:03,319 hate it and ugly and everything that you could feel. That's a horrible feeling. 396 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:08,119 So you got happiness, joy I felt the opposite, depressed, hopeless 397 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,440 that no matter what I do, I'm in trouble. I'm in serious trouble. 398 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:19,799 And I felt the fear worst of imminent death. I I can't explain 399 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,440 it. I felt literal death, and even though I was living, still 400 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:32,680 drawing breath, I felt like I was dead. And I'm I'm just about 401 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,640 almost out of the scenario. I'm almost out of my situation. This that 402 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:41,240 the face encounter happened while I'm about halfway through. I still have a few 403 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,480 more wines to get through, a few more straight spots, and I'm flooring 404 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,440 it and I'm trying to get out of here. And you know, it 405 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,480 wasn't really hot. I'm sweating. My body is hot. I can't, 406 00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:59,440 you know, smell anything, So there's no smell or no hearing anything, 407 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,880 but it was so fluid, and then my brain I kept thinking, there's 408 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,680 trees, how is it waving out? How is this thing not slowing down 409 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 for even a second? You know, I like, I said, I've 410 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,200 been hiking, how can maneuver? But at the same time, I'm thinking, 411 00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:18,079 no, Matt, stay focused, eyes on the road. And I 412 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:22,079 got through the last, the last weave, and I said, thank god, 413 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,720 I can smash floor it. And I you know, because I've I 414 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,599 was looking. You know, I've already seen. I know because it says 415 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,759 that the town named Bristol coming up population and I know there's a bridge at 416 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,759 the end. I floored. At this point, I'm doing eighty, but 417 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,440 this is one of those highway roads that pours off into like a main road 418 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000 there, so there is a street lights. I said, I don't care. 419 00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:45,960 I'm gonna have to do it if I'm gonna throw it a neutral and 420 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:49,759 slam on the brake. But I get all the way up to eighty and 421 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,680 right as the last I say, like five seconds. I don't know this 422 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:57,359 thing's speed's limit. But after I broke almost up to that eighty ninety bears 423 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:02,200 slowed down a little bit, but That's only because as soon as I where 424 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,000 it said city limit, there was a like a maybe like a what was 425 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,640 it? Off to the right, it was and it had tanks on it. 426 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,039 I don't know if there was a water filtration system or maybe some kind 427 00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:19,119 of gas vacuum pump thing, or maybe septic pump company that had a few 428 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,880 pump trucks there. But as soon as I hit that, because I was 429 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,119 at the edge of the city limits, it was like dread, the fear, 430 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,640 the feeling like I was gonna die, all that went away. I 431 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,079 still felt anxietized because I'm still thinking that was a natural feeling. All the 432 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:42,440 other feelings were a natural, unnatural. It was relief, but also still 433 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,960 heavily scared and anxietized, you know, anxiety. I didn't feel like I 434 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:54,559 was being chased, but I still had that looking over my shoulder, like 435 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,480 you know, head on a swell with left, right, left, right, 436 00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:00,200 you know where could it be? Now, there's lights in this town. 437 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,359 To get it's a tiny town, but I mean it's still a town. 438 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,799 It has lights. And you know a few stores that even though they're 439 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,920 closed, they have their lights out on the front. And I get to 440 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,759 my medical facility, I draw the blood that I need to draw and get 441 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,799 my collect my other samples that I need to get while I'm there, and 442 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:22,480 I went my other way. Now my head, you know, I'm still 443 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,839 the whole night, I'm doing my job. And it's kind of like when 444 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:30,279 you're dealing with something serious your life. You go to work and you kind 445 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:35,200 of going on a pilot. You know you're doing a job, but you've 446 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,960 done this job so long that you can do it with your eyes. Schools 447 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,640 figures almost you know, figure these speaking, you know, and I'm thinking, 448 00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:47,799 what was that? What did I just see? Hold on the story 449 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,559 you know mom and dad, you know parents tell when they're growing up, 450 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,680 or what you see on cartoons as kids like Scooby Doo like no where else 451 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:59,960 are real? And then I beg the question, Oh my goodness, great, 452 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,240 it's just what else is real? You know, Aliens or big Foot? 453 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,360 Uh, you know paranormal stuff. Now, I, like I said, 454 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,639 as a kid, I've seen some stuff, so I known about that, 455 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:16,760 but this opened up a whole new world to me that we are not 456 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:22,960 alone. The main thing that we have that we've advanced in is lights, 457 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,960 being able to have light and dark and light up areas and we clustered together. 458 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:39,000 So that's that was my initial encounter with the dog men, and it 459 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:45,719 kind of goes on from there. That was night one. So the nightmares, 460 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:57,039 those began shortly after I had the other physical encounters. Some of them 461 00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:06,760 were in between. Once I had seeing the dog Man, it was like 462 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,840 I had was locked onto and maybe not locked onto like what other people say 463 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,119 that they were followed home. I think the Lord. I wasn't followed back 464 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:22,480 to my house, but kind of like a spiritual personally locked onto. It 465 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:29,440 didn't matter where I go. I started having, you know, nightmares. 466 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:34,559 Followed with some other physical encounters, or at least believed to be physical. 467 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,320 I still had to travel down this road for the next three or four nights 468 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:45,119 or so, just because I again I had already allocated all my money towards 469 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:51,559 gas and nothing for the toll. And the times that I would sleep, 470 00:35:52,880 --> 00:36:00,400 I couldn't sleep well. It was like I would hear things, and it 471 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:09,480 wasn't just when you have a nightmare where you know I'm lost or irrational type 472 00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:13,679 of things that don't make sense, but you you're like I was scared of 473 00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:17,480 that. That was a nightmare. No, these things were like people calling 474 00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:22,760 out from the dead or what I perceive this, you know, hell. 475 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,360 And they didn't call me by name, but you know I would. I 476 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,519 would take little cat naps in between my routes. Again, this is all 477 00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:36,400 in the middle of the night. And sometimes I get to a site an 478 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,880 hour earlier, thirty minutes early, because they protected samples I needed from the 479 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,320 previous site were either half or either half of that half, so I didn't 480 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,079 spend as nearly as much time as I needed to do at that site versus 481 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,519 my next site. So I still would use majority that that spare time to 482 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,400 go into the site and get that one done earlier, but I'd also take 483 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,199 a little give a little time back to myself and take a little cat naps 484 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,719 five ten minute now. And in these naps felt like eternity. I had 485 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:14,679 one where people were calling out to me and crying and it was like I 486 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,440 was somewhere I couldn't see anything. This is all just audible. And they 487 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:25,719 said, you know, they're like wailing, like like you know, sadd 488 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,480 oh, you know, kind of like that when people think they hear a 489 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:35,599 ghost. And it was like not joyous, but like they had found a 490 00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:39,119 hope or something, and they're like, oh, there is there is help, 491 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:43,440 help us, how not? And it's and built up from a well 492 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,599 to a literal screen. And there's five or six of them that I almost 493 00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:51,440 had them like that jolt when you wake up or a heart attack, you 494 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,159 know that the where you shoot up and you're in a ninety you know degree 495 00:37:54,239 --> 00:38:00,159 angle for your legs to your back, and I I'd cry. I had 496 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:01,760 a little bit when I heard that. You know, I was still trying 497 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,960 to piece together what had just happened the night before. But was that hell 498 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,239 or what was that? Who am I hearing? Who are these people and 499 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,400 those were spirits? Am I being toy to business an illusion? Or am 500 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,719 I really just freaked out by this whole scenario. I'm having nightmares and I 501 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,440 had somewhere because I started getting less and less sleep from this, because I 502 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,840 was I was getting to the point where, almost like in the Freddy Krueger 503 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,159 movies, I didn't want to sleep. So it caused me to be even 504 00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:36,480 more tired on the road. And there were times where, you know, 505 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:42,840 I had a mini dream that I was driving down the same road and I 506 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,079 looked up just slightly and there was a cloud and it was so low, 507 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,519 and it was a skeleton, not a skeleton, just a skull, you 508 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:53,639 know, just like you see in any skeletal. You know, it was 509 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:57,960 a human skull, but not a It was a shape of the school. 510 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,519 Let me say that. And the the interpretation I got from the dream was 511 00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:05,719 death looming over me. And I looked at and I looked down the road 512 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,760 now before I could see or recognize in the road. I woke up from 513 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:14,679 that dream and I said, oh, what am I dealing with? What 514 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,440 is all of this? And it just the only place I felt safe to 515 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,400 sleep was at home with you know, my girlfriend when she was off shift. 516 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:28,679 I felt always felt better to have somebody with me. But the nightmares 517 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960 went on, and there was times where I'd have dreams. I think they 518 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:37,119 became a sleep paralysis, you know, when your eyes kind of opened up 519 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,880 just slightly and I'd sleep and I'd just slump in my card, leave my 520 00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:44,199 car seat back before going to my next side, and you know you're looking 521 00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:46,360 at your passenger side where the passenger feet would be at well, I would 522 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,639 sometimes put my lab bags down there. There are times where I put it 523 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:54,599 in my passenger seat sometimes I didn't always put him in the bottom, and 524 00:39:54,639 --> 00:40:05,400 there was nothing there, and I thought I saw a pale child sitting crisscross 525 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:13,480 apple sauce with the biggest eyes. And I my heart started pounding because I 526 00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,360 can't move and I can't wake up. And I woke up, and that's 527 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:22,599 where you wake here, almost I would say, hyperventilating. But I turned 528 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,000 on, like you know, I turned the car on. I put all 529 00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:29,559 the lights in that you the interior lights, and I looked down and my 530 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:36,519 you know, it would be in the space for something small like that, 531 00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:38,960 But why why are you sitting there just staring at me? And I just 532 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,920 started I felt like I was being just watched, not necessarily by like the 533 00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:51,079 spiritual side of things, but like I would get out and I'd be walking 534 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,639 in the nursing homes and I just looked. I wanted to stay away from 535 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:58,000 any dark vegetation. If it didn't have lights, I will park on the 536 00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,400 other side of the building if I have to. And if this is a 537 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,559 mandatory lock door and I have to go through this specific door for security reasons, 538 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,360 I'm fast paced walking. I don't care if I look crazy. I'm 539 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,960 gonna hurry if you get in here, because again most of my work is 540 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:17,599 at night, and in Oklahoma and specifically small towns there, there's only maybe 541 00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,639 like a mile two or maybe five mile radius before you're right back into the 542 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,519 open fields and open woods. Or you know, even if its own property, 543 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:30,199 we're talking acres so big that yeah, there's a house on it, 544 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,480 but it might be so many acres do that way or this way to where 545 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,159 if a dogman or something wanted to lurk and creep around undetected and free and 546 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:44,880 not be watched, this is the state, This would be the area to 547 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,719 do it. And I still had to take this road. There's a few 548 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,280 other counters, not necessarily dog men. And again my brain I was thinking 549 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:59,480 where Wolf. I wasn't sure of anything, you know, I I started 550 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,719 asking around at nursing homes without trying to look like a madman, you know, 551 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,239 I have you seen anything in the area or is there you know, 552 00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:14,960 anything weird in the area, Like well, you know, we get all 553 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,840 kinds of weird stuff. They're more talking about like just weird people. It's 554 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,159 like, no, if you ever like see anything weird out at night in 555 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,800 the field, and you know, they're like, oh, ask so and 556 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,360 so, and I'd go over to that nurse or this medical person, and 557 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,519 you know, they're like, oh, well, describe a little bit more. 558 00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:37,079 And I describe it and they're like, oh, you're talking about this, 559 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:43,159 and some of them will look upset that I even ask. Some of 560 00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:47,840 them look like they'll tell me. But again it looked like an I won't 561 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,679 say irritability, but that ay, I'm telling you this, but don't never 562 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,119 ask me again. And they would say skin walker or some type of shape 563 00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:00,920 ship or of some type, and you know, and so I kind of 564 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,920 rolled with that, but I was like, I really think it was a 565 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:09,719 werewolf. So the next few nights, I'm driving and I'm hyper vigilant. 566 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,800 Now I'm looking left and right, and I said, okay, I'm gonna 567 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:15,719 on the straight parts. I'm gonna speed through and on the cruise was slowed 568 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:22,679 on just a little bit, speed through and I'm just gonna be cautious. 569 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,480 And I said, when I approached that area that I saw it, I'm 570 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:30,519 going to be hyper vigilant, keep my eyes on the road. And so 571 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:35,239 I'm driving and then like about halfway through, So the initial part of the 572 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,960 story happened around somewhere five six seven miles and nothing happened. I didn't feel 573 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,440 any bad feelings, any weird vibes. All I saw was just dark woods, 574 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,079 then open field and dark woods and open filled And they said, you 575 00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:54,440 know what, it's nothing to worry about. And I see a guy and 576 00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:59,639 uh, kind of like what you see with a mechanic or a trash man. 577 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:04,159 They have the navy blue jumper and they have like the green with the 578 00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:08,000 silver in the middle, reflectors on the arms and the legs. And something 579 00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:15,119 felt in my body not scary wise to slow down and help this person or 580 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,360 slow down check on him, because I mean, it's in the middle of 581 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,880 the woods. He looks I won't say loss. He's walking the opposite direction. 582 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,079 So he's walking, you know, like he's if he was driving a 583 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:28,119 car, you know, he'd be going the other way. And so, 584 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,400 you know, he sticks at his thumb like the usual hitchhiker thing to do. 585 00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,880 But I couldn't see his face. His head was tilted down, and 586 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,360 I looked at the right or be his right side of his chest left for 587 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,039 me, because you know, everybody knows those kind of generic, you know, 588 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:46,119 classic uniforms. They have the name tag sewn into it. There was 589 00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:52,239 no name tag on it. There's nothing there. And I looked and I 590 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:58,800 kind of got a more of an uncanny or not scary, but creepy feeling. 591 00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:02,360 And as I looked, I saw just a little bit and he had 592 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,000 a ball cap on average ball cap wasn't anything significant. It might have been 593 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:13,559 your camper camo color. And he's smirked left side and face just plain, 594 00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,599 but the right side smirked. And I thought, what a weird thing to 595 00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:20,079 do as a hitchhiker, and I floored it out. I didn't give it 596 00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,239 any thought that, hey, this is the same road that I saw that 597 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,360 thing. I didn't ask in the in the aspect of, hey, I 598 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,039 don't want this guy walking around here with this thing out here. But after 599 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,679 that, I was like, oh, maybe it's gone. He's gonna deal 600 00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:36,760 with this self. That's weird to smirking me like that floor it out there. 601 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,280 Rest of the way out, you know, the other half of it. 602 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,719 Nothing. I was like, Okay, I made it. I didn't 603 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,440 see a hitchhiker. Threw that out in the back of my mind because I'm 604 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,639 still dealing with these nightmares. So seeing that guy was at least at my 605 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:52,639 problems at the time. Go home, rents, repeat, sleep, eat, 606 00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:57,199 get out, go to work, do my other sites. Fear free 607 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,159 and I'm like, oh, man, I can't get a good they're in 608 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:02,360 a row. Nothing happened last night other than that guy. I should be 609 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:09,119 fine. And I drive again most of the way and I've already passed the 610 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:14,880 area where I saw the dog man, and you know, a little bit 611 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:21,679 more than half at this point, and I'm driving nothing, and I see 612 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,440 something jump out in front of the road, maybe enough at the end of 613 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,400 my headlights. It wasn't like, oh, something very far back where it 614 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,360 just reflected. No, it jumped out in front of my headlights. I 615 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:39,800 would say that it jumped out thirty forty feet range. So it's close enough, 616 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,000 and I have twenty twenty visions, close enough for me to make out 617 00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:45,960 everything I'm seeing. First of it was a rabbit, and the rabbit just 618 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:52,960 run straight across. And then I see a coyot or a dog, and 619 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:58,880 it stopped and looked at my car. It looked over and made eye contact. 620 00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:01,960 And then as that happened, a board came out and chased the dog. 621 00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:06,119 I mean, I'm thinking in my head did. I just see what 622 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,719 I saw, and the board did the same thing. It stopped looked me 623 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,719 dead in my eyes. Now, the board just kind of looked weird, 624 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,119 just because you know, you see him. They are out here. It 625 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:19,519 is Oklahoma. It's not like super uncommon, but they're out here. So 626 00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:22,440 it wasn't like, you know, I'm Theyking oh Man supernatural board. But 627 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,280 its eyes looked a little funny, but I mean it was. It was 628 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,559 right in front of my headlights and that was eyeshine, and it went on 629 00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:35,679 and it kind of moved just a little bit and then stopped and it sat 630 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,159 a little bit, and so I I read my engine and it got up 631 00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,199 and then it walked away, and I was like, okay, this is 632 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,320 weird. So you know, I don't afford it out still animals, and 633 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,559 I've heard the stories. You know, you never heard the dare. You 634 00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:50,440 don't hit a goose. You don't hit any animals for no reason. For 635 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,239 one, that's just your humane and second of all, their bones are dents. 636 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,079 You're gonna mess your car up. So you know, I make sure 637 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,880 get off the throw and I get up out of there and I get to 638 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:05,280 my medical facility. I'm thinking Okay, made it through the third night unscathed. 639 00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:08,079 Nothing weird, just a couple of wild animals. Then I go, 640 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,679 you know, home rents. Repeat. I'm telling this all to my girlfriend 641 00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:17,000 at the time, too, and she's thinking these had her own experiences, 642 00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:24,360 and she is with me one hundred percent. It wasn't super skeptical. Now 643 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:30,519 my co workers, my supervisor, my manager, nobody believes me. Oh, 644 00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:34,000 Matt, you're just tired. Just just go on and get some sleep. 645 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,400 You know. There was times where when I told him, I even 646 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,480 cried when I got to office. From the first sight that they've they're thinking 647 00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:45,199 I'm just getting delusional from losing sleep. They're like, somebody take all his 648 00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,480 lab work and you process before I'm Matt, go home, get some sleep. 649 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000 I get some sleep, but no amount of sleep is gonna fix what's 650 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,800 going on. And not to mention the nightmares, more sleep just means more 651 00:48:54,920 --> 00:49:01,079 nightmares or longer nightmares. So that happened after first night. I keep telling 652 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:06,000 them, you know, I'm putting in a request to change shifts. I 653 00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,039 don't want to work nights anymore. I'm getting freaked out by this. Now 654 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,840 this is the fourth night and I'm about to get paid, and I said, 655 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,039 I don't care how I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna get a freeway 656 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:22,480 pass. I'm never going down this road ever. Again, this is because 657 00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:24,360 I have to do it. And that was dumb, and I'm thinking the 658 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,159 whole time being myself up. If I just not bought this fast food, 659 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,159 or if I had not bought this unneeded item. I kind of got a 660 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:36,679 pike pass and avoided this whole situation. And on the fourth night, I'm 661 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:43,360 driving, and this is just before that field where I saw the dogment, 662 00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:47,800 and again I got that overwhelming feeling up to help. I saw a lady, 663 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,400 a woman, and the way the moonlight was it was just like the 664 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,800 first night. You know, this all relatively happened in four days, so 665 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,760 the moonlight's still relatively whatever cycle it's And again I'm not looking at the moon 666 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,719 every single day, but it was pretty much fool around that time. So 667 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:15,000 anyways, carry on. She was wearing a white sleeping gown. And at 668 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,519 this time I went a lot slower than I did the other guy, because 669 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:22,920 I actually I was getting ready to lean over to open the door, my 670 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:29,320 passenger door, and I got a good enough look this and let me be 671 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,280 a frank, I said, medical facilities. But I'm not explaining too much 672 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,119 further after that, but work in the nursing homes. A few nursing homes, 673 00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:42,239 and so I generally see, you know, what is the typical modern 674 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,440 day sleeping gown, you know? And this wasn't that. This was very 675 00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:57,480 old like bonnet style hold. This was like an eighteen hundreds style sleeping down. 676 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,239 It just looks so bland, a little ruffled up, maybe a little 677 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:05,239 bit dirty, but not like they rolled in mud. But it just looked 678 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:13,320 dated, very dated, and I could tell. And the hair was white 679 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,719 and long, untamed, but not like so frizzled like a bush, but 680 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,880 frizzy enough where it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't groomed or taken care of. 681 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,440 And it poured all off the side of her heads down her neck, popped 682 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,719 down her back and say, I say, come down to like stomach lit 683 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:36,280 and it covered her front or her face. Now my brain correlated the last 684 00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,280 incident with the guy, why are you covering your eyes? All I could 685 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,800 see was the chin and there was no smiler or anything like that. And 686 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,480 she didn't even raise out her thumb. This one moved the other guy. 687 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,639 He was walking a little bit this one instead of just walking like she's walking 688 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,639 aside from me. As I'm about to slow down, she turned to the 689 00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:01,599 direct know my car, not that she was gonna reach for the handler or 690 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:06,880 anything, but like she was waiting to be invited in. And I almost 691 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,400 reached open and opened the door, and I jerked back and said, wait 692 00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:16,360 a second, and I floored it out of there. And when I did 693 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:23,000 that, I again the dass Challenger has a very thick bar in the back 694 00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,760 for the brake light. I love it so even if you were foots not 695 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,800 on the brake, it's a red just like outer glow and your rear view. 696 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,760 Mari, and I don't have any tin. I didn't have any tin 697 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,079 in that car, so I could see pretty much read within like five ish 698 00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:43,199 t ish feet behind me, and as I drive off and then super floored 699 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,559 off, but I put some speed behind it and I got back to my 700 00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:50,880 regular travel speed, and I looked, and I saw she walked out in 701 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,639 the middle of the road and faced my car, just staring as as you 702 00:52:55,639 --> 00:53:00,599 know, facing my direction. Though I never saw the eyes, I never 703 00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:10,480 saw any facial details. After that, I was done with these encounters. 704 00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:15,920 I had finally, you know, gotten paid the next day. On top 705 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:22,360 of that, I told I don't like giving ultimatums at all. I'm a 706 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,519 very nice guy. I will do what a company says. You know, 707 00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:28,280 I also think about me. I'm a human being, yest, but I'm 708 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,719 also a get it done kind of guy. But with this I let him 709 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,119 know. I said, hey, you don't take me off nights. I 710 00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,440 quit and I made that abundant. There have been things have been pushed over 711 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,039 before with but not with this. And they saw that I was serious, 712 00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:45,559 and they're like, okay, all right, we'll put you on eight to 713 00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:50,920 three. Said sounds great, that works for me, and I switch shift. 714 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,360 That was my last night shift working for this company. After that, 715 00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:04,519 things dissipated, the nightmares dissipated, no dogment encounters, nothing crazy. After 716 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,599 that, I start working days. I got used to sleeping at nights again. 717 00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:13,639 I felt a whole lot safer. I felt more relaxed, But those 718 00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:19,760 thoughts kept coming back, the screaming in and the dreams, the glowing amber 719 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:27,559 eyes in the field, the hitchhikers that there's like I said, this is 720 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,400 miles apart from end to end. No street lights, you don't even have 721 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,639 your flashlight on for a phone. That things, little things I would think 722 00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:39,320 about red flags would come up, and I said that was not a human 723 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:47,079 being. Those weren't actual people. There's no properties within miles, so a 724 00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:52,440 lot I could actually focus and think about what I digest, what I had 725 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:59,199 saw further down the road. But never I made a thing, even in 726 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,960 the daytime. I never went down that highway again, not even for kicks 727 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,000 and giggles or you know, memorily. I don't ever want to go down 728 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:15,280 that road ever again. I can't say I'll blame me after all those wild 729 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,599 experiences. Holy yeah, you really went through it. Yes, absolutely, 730 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:27,519 I've had a more open mind since then to the whole you watch Halea movies 731 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,800 or anything else, but I know I remind myself we are not alone. 732 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:39,800 We are not alone, and respect the woods. I've heard some of your 733 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,880 other episodes. I don't know what I would do if I was like on 734 00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:50,679 foot hiking and I saw it, or I was walking and I saw it. 735 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:57,159 I could not imagine the terror level of terror I would feel. If 736 00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:00,559 I actually saw it and I heard it or smelt it, I probably would 737 00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:04,159 have sent me over the edge. I'm not even gonna lie. Well, 738 00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:07,760 after going through all those strange things, I think you deserve a lot of 739 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,320 credit for just holding it together. Wow. If you'd like to be able 740 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,920 to listen to the show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 741 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,840 that's an option. To find out how, please go to Dogman Encounters dot 742 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,840 com Forward Slash podcast. We're about it the hour mark here and Matt, 743 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,119 I've got a lot of questions I want to ask you about these experiences, 744 00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:34,159 but we're up against it time wise. Would you be willing to come back 745 00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:37,000 and do a part two where I could ask you all these questions. Yes, 746 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:42,000 I'd be available for a part two. Vic, Oh great, well 747 00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:45,599 let's do that. Then I'll just have you back on and I'll ask those 748 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,920 questions and part two and we'll just do it that way. Then that sounds 749 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,360 great, Vig, thank you, well, you know you're welcome. But 750 00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:57,639 having said that, thanks against so much for your time and have a great night.