Tonight's guest is Matt. Matt Welcome to the show. Hey, it's a
pleasure to be here. Vick, Well, it's great having you. Thank
you for your time. Matt. Please give us a brief bio in yourself.
I currently am a workaholic. You know, I have a few hobbies
and I do love hiking. Nothing extreme outdoors, but I do love the
outdoors, taking camping, tricks, hiking and looking at beautiful natural scenery.
Well, it's great to hear you enjoy the outdoors so much. How was
that love the outdoor is affected though after you have the encounter that you're going
to tell us about tonight, I would say it's been affected a good amount,
but I don't let it hold me back. The only stipulation I put
on myself would be nighttime outdoor activities. I haven't really went capping in a
while. I am looking forward to doing that here later before it gets too
cold. But you know, anytime I'm hiking and the sun starts setting,
I don't waste any time to hurry up and head back. You know,
anything in the daytime is good enough for me. Does that mean you can
go into the woods by yourself during daylight hours without too much trouble. Yes,
I've always kind of hiked that way. I used to hike with my
siblings and they were, you know a little bit different. We all kind
of went our own ways kind of thing. You know. I used to
take them hiking with me. But one of them likes more skateboarding BMX bikes,
And this is from a growing up standpoint. And you know my other
simily, she's a girl's and my sister, so she didn't really care too
much for the outdoors either. So eventually I just, you know, even
from a teenager, I just started going out hiking alone and got used to
it. You know, I'd walk with some earphones in. You know,
my mom would be like, keep one ear open at least so you are
aware of your surroundings. You can at least hear what's going on. You're
not too immersing your music. Eventually, you know, as I've grown,
I've just kind of gotten used to that. Sometimes I even switch it up
and use it as a workout and I'll put ankle weights on or maybe just
a few pounds into a backpack and just enjoy the scenery. So yeah,
that was really good advice. Your mother gave you. Even if you don't
have dogs in in the area, you might have mountain wins or something else
to deal with wild hogs. So yeah, that's always a good idea to
do that. We're here to talk about your dog man encounter, of course,
Map, but you've got a history of having encounters with other strange things
as well. Well more, can you tell us about that? Yes,
Big, I've you know, encountered some pretty off the wall things that just
makes you sit there and say, we really are not alone. You know.
I've from a early you know, age around like ten eleven, not
necessarily puberty yet, but not a little kid where I'm five or six,
old enough to know right for wrong, and old enough to know when I
see something that is unnatural. Our house, our family house growing up,
had recently gotten rerinovated, and everybody has a new beginning, and you know
start. You know, my brother, my sister and we used to have
a bunk beat and when we were smaller, you know, my sister would
share used the bottom one, me and my brother would chair the top one.
This is all we were pretty small. Z was. He got older
and the house was being renovated, took it about a year or two,
but that's neither here nor there. When we got our own separate rooms for
once, we didn't have beds, and so, you know, I'm laying
on the floor a bunch of blanket. It's kind of like a palette,
very comfy, and I was pretty much a wall sleeper, and I would
slink to the wall. Well, I had this feeling I could not go
to sleep, and I was laying there is the first time being in this
room, no furniture or anything quite yet except for a lamp. And I
had this feeling just over me, like I'm being watched. I'm like that,
there's no way that can't be. So I flip over. You know,
I have a window that faces to the west and one that faces to
the north. And the one that faces to the north is a small window
compared to your average, you know sized window that you you know, it's
pretty large. Well, I look over and I see two red eyes,
and that kind of like stunned or shocked me. I was kind of like
I locked with the thing. I tried to get details, but I was
so in fear. It was like I was drawn into its eyes. And
to remind you, I'm about ten or eleven at this time, so again
old enough to know right from but still, you know, I still consider
ten or twelve is still pretty young. I was petrified. I'm not even
gonna lie to you. I can't remember it's form too well. It was
I won't say shapeless. It wasn't just like smoke, but it was solid
black. Of course, it's in the middle of the night, and it
was a humanoid figure. It had a head shape but no facial description,
no mouth, no ears, you know, no eyebrows, no hair,
none of that. And at the time, you know, it took me
even from then, it was just her hip turned around over towards the wall.
I finally able to break off, and I can't remember, so I
don't want to throw it in there, but I may or may not have
turned back around. But I know myself when I was a kid, and
I would have been too petrified to move to even turn around. But later
on, as I got older, I realized, you know, I'd always
realized it, but I didn't stop to think about it. That's the second
floor and there is no platforms. It's just one solid straight wall. There's
no bit of the roof, you know, or shingles or anything to stand
over there. So as I got older, it kind of got freak.
Girls. I was thinking, there's no way something was standing there, and
the height that it was standing at, it wasn't look like it was just
barely reaching peeking into the window. It almost had like it's I would assume
a neck, but it was like it was looking down just slightly. And
again I know that sounds like, well, how could you tell there's no
facial description, But that's the message that I got from that. It wasn't
barely reaching it. It had no how can I say, physics or physical
limitation on looking into the window at that time. So Ever since then,
I've always kind of had your paranormal things from time to time. Not enough
for me to live in fear, but I think enough to remind me that
we are not alone, and it isn't just mankind that we are just you
know, the only species or only entities on this planet. I'll say that
No, as you know now, there's a lot of other things out there
besides us. And speaking to that encounter you just told us about, Wow,
poor a guy. That's rough. When you're a kid, it's hard
enough not to mention having experience like that, I can only imagine your dog
mean encounter happened in Oklahoma in the middle of the night. Are you were
of the fact that Oklahoma is a hot spot for dog mean encounters? No,
vic, I did not know that growing up, and even as I
got older, just you know, doing activities outdoors. I thought, it's
Oklahoma. Yes, anybody in the state that anything's going on, paranormal or
otherwise. It's always a different state. If it's paranormal, you're thinking Nevada
or you know, the Mojave Desert or Appalachian you know, very far off,
secluded kind of areas where you think, now that's someplace something weird would
happen. I never considered Oklahoma would be the place where a hot spot for
dogmen. I came across your show a few months ago, and I still
kind of have a driving job, and I just love listening to it,
like I'm listening to a radio, and I just listened to episode after episode
after episode, and so many of them, you know, Oklahoma here or
in this period Northeastern and I'm like, wow, Okay, dogmen are cited
pretty much all over Oklahoma. So I'm sad that those people had to see
it, But I'm kind of happy at the same time remind it like,
Okay, I'm not just the one off, random, you know person that's
seeing a dogman in the state of Oklahoma. Well, as you know,
dogmen are seeing all over period. Yeah, they literally are all over the
place. Unfortunately, when we spoke about your dog mean encounter for the first
time, I got the impression that the nightmares you suffered as a result of
that encounter just might have been harder for you to deal with than the encounter
itself. Is that an accurate assessment, Yes, big, I would say
that is an accurate assessment. When I had Dean and had my encounter with
the dog man, it was very frightening. It was very scary. I
mean, never seen, heard or experience any type of level fear like that
in my life. But at the same time, I kind of had a
how can I say, I just thought in my brain, if I avoid
that spot, I'll be okay. But the nightmares and the feeling of being
watched, even in other areas, was worse than the encounter itself. Not
to take away from the encounter, but what persisted after that for a few
months yes, that was definitely unpleasant. I figured that was the case.
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please tell us about your encounter. Now give us every last detail it
comes to mind, all right, Vick. So I was driving in between
two different towns. I was driving leaving Cushing going towards Bristow about two in
the morning. And the reason that I was out was for my job at
the time. Had this job where I would travel from medical facility to medical
facility transferring different bodily fluids so that they could be tested. And one of
the things for requirements for this job was it had to be drawn or you
know, collected, really early in the morning so that week they could get
the results same day. So I was familiar with being out this late at
night. This isn't a one off a curse, I know, it just
happened to be out this night. I'm out every night, almost seven days
a week, and so I typically would take different highways. I'm familiar with
back roads, and it's very beautiful when the sun does start coming up.
You're going through a canidpy area with trees or even a wide open field with
the sun coming in. It's very nice and relaxing for the most part.
And at night it could be relaxing, but you also have to be vigilant
or anything that could happen, you know, out on the road specifically,
so I thought at the time would just be deer crossing or anything like that.
You know, tire drivers was the worst of your worries at that time.
So I was driving from Cushing to Bristol and typically the route that I
would take required me to take the toll rope. Well, I had put
majority of my funding towards gas and at the time, I'm eighteen nineteen years
old and this is the round the summertime of twenty eighteen, and so I
didn't really think about other things like a toll pass, and so I didn't
have any money to put towards a toll rope or get in one's hole,
and I waited my options, you know, spend X amount of dollars on
the toll get there faster, or I can use this money on gas.
It's going to make me last longer through the week and I won't have to
worry about running out of gas early and get in trouble with my job because
I can't make it to the next site. So there were certain back roads
that I've never heard of, never seen, kind of like the movie Wrong
Turn. And I looked at it and it was only a couple of minutes
difference, maybe about ten minute. It's your soul more. And I thought,
I looked at the distance, all right, I'll do it. I've
never been down this road, but I can do it. I'll make it.
So I'm driving between Cushing and Bristol, trying to get to my next
facility. It's about two in the morning. I'm about five miles in or
so, and the terrain was pretty flat for the most part, but it
was windy here and there. So it was flat and straight, but windy,
kind of like when a snake slippers and it moves, it doesn't just
go in a straight path from A to B. And so at the time,
you know, I had a Dodge Challenger. So you know, I
used to like to here and there, go ahead and put some gas on
it, you know, I know, you know, thinking young guy Dodge
Challenger sports car. Yeah, okay, so I'm driving and I'm not listening
to radio, just kind of saying vigilant again. I just like to enjoy
this scenery and also be vigilant. Sometimes I get calls from my job,
so I try to be watchful listen for that kind of thing. Low beams
on, no reason for me to have my high beams on. I could
see pretty well, and this road would have somewhat of a canopy for a
few miles, or the trees would kind of lean over and touch each other
above the freeway. It's a one way each direction, and so it would
kind of bottleneck closer towards each town. So from Cushing it was wide and
open, and then it would narrow up kind of going into that canopy.
And here and out it would just have multiple little pastures off to your left
or right. And this area there's there is not a single straight light,
and there's not any houses. There's no houses. If there are, maybe
there's a gravel road that would probably pour out you go off for maybe a
mile. You know, this is the type of place where people think,
if I don't want neighbors, then this is where you would typically want to
go. And so there's no street lights, no turnoffs, no gas stations,
nothing, absolutely nothing. So when I say pitch dark, if you
wanted to get out your car and turn your car off and look up at
the sky at the stars, you could do that and you could see it
perfectly fine. The light pollution was basically zero. And so I'm driving it
had one of those pastures, you know, canopy and then pasture, and
for some reason, you know, I'm looking. You know, I've done
this before. The moon's out pretty well. I don't remember if it was
a full moon, but for the most part it probably was close to because
the moonlight was, I mean excellent. Either my eyes thought was really good
at that time, or it was just very bright just off the moonlight alone,
and that was pretty much the only light other than my low games from
my car. And you know, at this point, again, i drive
it and I'm used to looking off and look at fields every now and then
say wow, that's big property. And I look over to my right just
slightly, and you know, my brain isn't really triggered at the moment I'm
looking, and it's the moonlight hits the trees. You can see a silo
over tree. It's black. It's dark, and it looks like a tree.
And the fields though with like weed or grass or anything like that,
like any kind of agriculture, kind of comes off as as white. So
to say, you know, the daytime looks gold when the sun hits it,
but at night, when the moonlight hits, it's kind of silver color
looking, so you could tell light, and then you can see the trees
dark. Well. I look out to my right in a passage is one
of these ordinary pastures, and I see something and for some reason, you
know, most times I'm just blow it off like that whatever, But I
kept thinking about it as I'm approaching doing probably this is about a sixty again
very slow highway. It's it's one way, but since it's night, I
try to be cautious. And it's also like I said, for every now
and then it would occur, it would here and there at left, right,
left, right, So I didn't want to go too fast and get
into a type of any type of trouble or getting off the road or losing
traction, and so out of my curiosity, it's just a little bit,
not much, probably drop it down about fifty or so, just a little
bit above fifty. And the way the road lined up right next to this
pasture. I was just coming out of one of those wines, and I'm
looking and my brains thing is, what is this Is that is that scarecrow?
Or it's too short for a tree, and it's too tall for a
person, and it's not close or even remotely next to the tree line,
and it's not in the dead center of the field. So it's not a
scarecrow. And I've I've seen them, but typically that that's kind of phased
out, that's neither here nor there. And I looked in the in the
right as I'm thinking this, as I'm about to, you know, my
hands are on the wheel and I'm about to say whatever. That wine had
ended, and it was my headlights kind of went out just to tab it
into the field, and it caught this thing's attention and it swung around.
It swiveled so it was facing the tree line like it was looking for something
or watching something and the tree line, but it was standing in the middle
filth, and it swung around to the right and it how can I say,
like it's upper torso. Everything swung like it was on a swivel left
arm, right arm. Torso had everything faced right, but its legs were
still facing the tree line, just off the way that it moved. It
didn't make a full direction. It swung around and looked dead into my soul.
It didn't feel like it was looking at my car. It didn't feel
like it was looking at something unfamiliar. It locked in with my eyes and
it felt like I was being looked through. It did not feel like I
was spotted or being watched. No, it felt like it looked through me.
It was trying to get me to acknowledge that I see you, and
I know that you can see me, and I want you to know that
I can see you in that thing or card. They know what that is.
I'm pretty sure they know a lot of things. And the moment I
saw it, it was like a trigger in my body that everything was calm
just a second ago, and the next second after seeing this, I felt
instant dread and fear, like my bones, like my body, kind of
when you're overcoming a fever and you're fighting a fever, your bones kind of
hurting their sore. I wouldn't say I was in pain or sore, but
my I could feel the fear of my bones. I don't know if you
could say the word trembling, but just trying to give myself description there,
I could. I could feel it in my bones. It felt primal.
I know it's gonna sound maybe a little dumb for a lack of better turns,
but maybe this is what Caveman felt like when an apex predator, like
when a t works was around and you're about to get eaten. I felt
like this was something very very bad, extremely bad. I've gotten in trouble
at work, and you know, it's not like the same trouble when you
get in trouble with your parents who are growing up and you know you're in
trouble and they're like, oh, I'm gonna talk to you when you get
home. It wasn't that kind of fear you know how to handle that.
This was something that was so beyond me that I was stunned for a second,
and not stunned to the point where I'm slamming on the brakes. Mind
you, this has taken place within about five to ten seconds. But all
this is going I mean overclocking in my brain at at a rapid pace.
And the moment that I could kind of finish that second, that that thought
in those few seconds as I'm passing it, I could not blow this off
as oh, well, maybe it's like a deer or something. It's eyeshine.
I know. The eyes still glowed after my car had lined up,
after the kind of in and out, the weave in and out on the
road. Its eyes were an amber orange like a gold color, kind of
like when you look at sap or how can I say this, Like you
have those LEDs and you're charging something, you have green amber and red.
It was that exact amber glow, like led eyes or something. And they
were bright. It wasn't dim, it wasn't eyeshine. It glowed. And
the moment that my car straightened up on the road, it bolted to the
tree line. I wasn't sure what was gonna happen. I felt in trouble.
It was gonna come for me, and directly you would think the quickest
point is from A to B. I was just gonna charge me and that
was it. No, it bolted to the tree line, and it was
so fluid when I saw it. Because when I saw this, I was
still freaked out in just immediately look at the road and not look at it
anymore. I was still thinking my head, oh my lord, what is
that. I've never seen anything like this before in my entire life, and
I'm freaking out. It bolted to the tree line, and I how can
I put it? You know, when joggers run or we run, or
even though if you look at a car ac we know how motion looks like,
or what physics is and how something should look or how can I say,
like lack of a better term again, but functual, how does something
move to get to a to b? You know? And the movies you
know, and you see like the ghosts, they are kind of feet kind
of lift up and it's just one fluid motion or like magneto and he lifts
himself up and he just flows to you fluidly. It had that, but
it was still making contact with the ground. I could slee its legs moving,
but it was so flew it. Now I'm in the car, my
windows are rolled up. I didn't necessarily hear it, like if there was
pounding or stomping or anything like that. But again, the way that it
moved, even with my windows down, how fast that moved, I probably
wouldn't have hurt much anyways, based on how fast it was, and it
went into the tree line. At this moment, I felt like it's on.
I gotta get out of here right now. And I'm a younger guy
again, so I've already I've played around my Dodge Challenger. I know the
endi out of this car. I've had it for a few years now,
i know my limits, and I've banged some corners not necessarily, like went
off the curve, and you know, I know when it's gonna lose traction
and when is to slow down, and what I need to do to keep
myself on the road. I'll just keep it at that. So I flow
it out and I go from this fifty to sixty now, Like I said,
I just got out of a line. So the road's gonna be straight
for maybe a mile or two before it gets windy again. I flooring,
and I think I'm gonna leave this thing in the dust. If it's some
kind of dog or something like that. I'm out of here, and I
still can't fit. I felt like kind of like a spiritual tether. I
don't know. It was so dark that I think when I saw it,
it knew that I couldn't see it. And maybe it knows our deepest fear
or what we try to ignore, and it for some reason in my body.
I can't relaying that I could feel it off to my right, and
I could feel it pacing with my car because something was right with the same
speed around sixty and sixty five and I'm trying to crawl up to seventy.
But again, I know at this point I'm approaching near the end of my
mile. It's about to get windy again. They have signs that lets you
know, hey, slow down, it's about to be a wine here.
And in my head and like, I want to slow down for safety reasons,
but I'm thinking in my head, if I get off track, if
I lose any traction or you know, it's it's one of those areas now
where I just left the pasture and the canopy. If I get off even
not even two feet three ft, I'm gonna hit a tree or worse,
even if I go off traction just a little bit, if I can't get
my tire the car sets a loof. I can't get it back. It's
gonna, you know, veer off to the side, and I don't that
those precious seconds. I can't afford to stick around any longer than I already
have, and I could feel it getting closer to me. I don't know
how to explain it, but I felt it watching me the entire time.
I'm going sixty in it, and I just make it out of the first
wine. I floor it again. I get up to seven. This thing
is keeping pace, and at seventy I realized it doesn't matter how fast I
go, I'm not going to be able to speed my way out of this.
I have to get out of this area now and get to some kind
of civilization something, get into an open area where I can actually get eyes
on it. And there was a point where I said, well, at
least I can't see it. It's like it was reading my mind or something.
I was like, at least I can't physically see its face. And
I felt like the distance I felt that gap closed even more, like it
was looking through my passenger window and then my peripheral vision. I keep my
arms a row because again, I said, if I take my eyes off
for even a second, two seconds or even just half a second, and
I'm not paying attention. I'm gonna veer off, and I'm definitely cooked at
that point, and I could feel it's I'm again, I'm going off periph
roel. So I can't say I had pupils on, you know, looking
I looked over to my right, but I could see it come up and
all the while doing sixty sixty five. It's not a dead stop. It
came up to the passenger's side window, and it looked and kind of like
when a person's angry, you know, your eyebrows kind of bowing, you
know that that upset look. It looked like that, and it raised its
upper lip like when you see, uh, like when a dog gets mad,
but they're not they're not off, uh you know, crazy mad.
They're they're like a well trained dog. Like as you approach maybe somebody's your
friend's house growing up, or you approach a house or something that's being guarding,
the dog gets off of its legs and it stands up and it slowly
curls its lip up that you know it's not playing, and as you get
closer, it starts to growl and show even more teeth. It did that,
it lifted its lips. It's high and I could tell even in mind
peripheral those teeth were sharp, and I kind of got the jitters or a
little bit of a ship, just kind of kind of thinking about that.
But it let me know. And then it's one swift motion, went right
back to the tree line and start pacing me. I knew, oh,
I at the point, at this point, I already knew it before.
But I cannot stop for anything. I have to be cautious. I hope
it. I'm just I wasn't sure if it was trying to pace me so
it could get in front of me and dump out of my car, or
if it was just gonna go head on through my passenger window now that it's
trying to let itself be known. And that didn't happen until I thought,
oh, well, it's dark. But you know, I try to be
one of those skeptical people. I didn't really see what it was. I
can't really say what it was. I know I saw the glowing eyes,
but it can't be what I think it is. I'd already thought it when
I saw it, but I thought, where will And it's like it came
up to my wind to confirm, like, no, you saw me.
I am a well now I know the term dog man, but I'm a
dog man and I saw you, and I want you to fill pure dread.
I felt hate it, even though I didn't do anything. I felt
hate it and ugly and everything that you could feel. That's a horrible feeling.
So you got happiness, joy I felt the opposite, depressed, hopeless
that no matter what I do, I'm in trouble. I'm in serious trouble.
And I felt the fear worst of imminent death. I I can't explain
it. I felt literal death, and even though I was living, still
drawing breath, I felt like I was dead. And I'm I'm just about
almost out of the scenario. I'm almost out of my situation. This that
the face encounter happened while I'm about halfway through. I still have a few
more wines to get through, a few more straight spots, and I'm flooring
it and I'm trying to get out of here. And you know, it
wasn't really hot. I'm sweating. My body is hot. I can't,
you know, smell anything, So there's no smell or no hearing anything,
but it was so fluid, and then my brain I kept thinking, there's
trees, how is it waving out? How is this thing not slowing down
for even a second? You know, I like, I said, I've
been hiking, how can maneuver? But at the same time, I'm thinking,
no, Matt, stay focused, eyes on the road. And I
got through the last, the last weave, and I said, thank god,
I can smash floor it. And I you know, because I've I
was looking. You know, I've already seen. I know because it says
that the town named Bristol coming up population and I know there's a bridge at
the end. I floored. At this point, I'm doing eighty, but
this is one of those highway roads that pours off into like a main road
there, so there is a street lights. I said, I don't care.
I'm gonna have to do it if I'm gonna throw it a neutral and
slam on the brake. But I get all the way up to eighty and
right as the last I say, like five seconds. I don't know this
thing's speed's limit. But after I broke almost up to that eighty ninety bears
slowed down a little bit, but That's only because as soon as I where
it said city limit, there was a like a maybe like a what was
it? Off to the right, it was and it had tanks on it.
I don't know if there was a water filtration system or maybe some kind
of gas vacuum pump thing, or maybe septic pump company that had a few
pump trucks there. But as soon as I hit that, because I was
at the edge of the city limits, it was like dread, the fear,
the feeling like I was gonna die, all that went away. I
still felt anxietized because I'm still thinking that was a natural feeling. All the
other feelings were a natural, unnatural. It was relief, but also still
heavily scared and anxietized, you know, anxiety. I didn't feel like I
was being chased, but I still had that looking over my shoulder, like
you know, head on a swell with left, right, left, right,
you know where could it be? Now, there's lights in this town.
To get it's a tiny town, but I mean it's still a town.
It has lights. And you know a few stores that even though they're
closed, they have their lights out on the front. And I get to
my medical facility, I draw the blood that I need to draw and get
my collect my other samples that I need to get while I'm there, and
I went my other way. Now my head, you know, I'm still
the whole night, I'm doing my job. And it's kind of like when
you're dealing with something serious your life. You go to work and you kind
of going on a pilot. You know you're doing a job, but you've
done this job so long that you can do it with your eyes. Schools
figures almost you know, figure these speaking, you know, and I'm thinking,
what was that? What did I just see? Hold on the story
you know mom and dad, you know parents tell when they're growing up,
or what you see on cartoons as kids like Scooby Doo like no where else
are real? And then I beg the question, Oh my goodness, great,
it's just what else is real? You know, Aliens or big Foot?
Uh, you know paranormal stuff. Now, I, like I said,
as a kid, I've seen some stuff, so I known about that,
but this opened up a whole new world to me that we are not
alone. The main thing that we have that we've advanced in is lights,
being able to have light and dark and light up areas and we clustered together.
So that's that was my initial encounter with the dog men, and it
kind of goes on from there. That was night one. So the nightmares,
those began shortly after I had the other physical encounters. Some of them
were in between. Once I had seeing the dog Man, it was like
I had was locked onto and maybe not locked onto like what other people say
that they were followed home. I think the Lord. I wasn't followed back
to my house, but kind of like a spiritual personally locked onto. It
didn't matter where I go. I started having, you know, nightmares.
Followed with some other physical encounters, or at least believed to be physical.
I still had to travel down this road for the next three or four nights
or so, just because I again I had already allocated all my money towards
gas and nothing for the toll. And the times that I would sleep,
I couldn't sleep well. It was like I would hear things, and it
wasn't just when you have a nightmare where you know I'm lost or irrational type
of things that don't make sense, but you you're like I was scared of
that. That was a nightmare. No, these things were like people calling
out from the dead or what I perceive this, you know, hell.
And they didn't call me by name, but you know I would. I
would take little cat naps in between my routes. Again, this is all
in the middle of the night. And sometimes I get to a site an
hour earlier, thirty minutes early, because they protected samples I needed from the
previous site were either half or either half of that half, so I didn't
spend as nearly as much time as I needed to do at that site versus
my next site. So I still would use majority that that spare time to
go into the site and get that one done earlier, but I'd also take
a little give a little time back to myself and take a little cat naps
five ten minute now. And in these naps felt like eternity. I had
one where people were calling out to me and crying and it was like I
was somewhere I couldn't see anything. This is all just audible. And they
said, you know, they're like wailing, like like you know, sadd
oh, you know, kind of like that when people think they hear a
ghost. And it was like not joyous, but like they had found a
hope or something, and they're like, oh, there is there is help,
help us, how not? And it's and built up from a well
to a literal screen. And there's five or six of them that I almost
had them like that jolt when you wake up or a heart attack, you
know that the where you shoot up and you're in a ninety you know degree
angle for your legs to your back, and I I'd cry. I had
a little bit when I heard that. You know, I was still trying
to piece together what had just happened the night before. But was that hell
or what was that? Who am I hearing? Who are these people and
those were spirits? Am I being toy to business an illusion? Or am
I really just freaked out by this whole scenario. I'm having nightmares and I
had somewhere because I started getting less and less sleep from this, because I
was I was getting to the point where, almost like in the Freddy Krueger
movies, I didn't want to sleep. So it caused me to be even
more tired on the road. And there were times where, you know,
I had a mini dream that I was driving down the same road and I
looked up just slightly and there was a cloud and it was so low,
and it was a skeleton, not a skeleton, just a skull, you
know, just like you see in any skeletal. You know, it was
a human skull, but not a It was a shape of the school.
Let me say that. And the the interpretation I got from the dream was
death looming over me. And I looked at and I looked down the road
now before I could see or recognize in the road. I woke up from
that dream and I said, oh, what am I dealing with? What
is all of this? And it just the only place I felt safe to
sleep was at home with you know, my girlfriend when she was off shift.
I felt always felt better to have somebody with me. But the nightmares
went on, and there was times where I'd have dreams. I think they
became a sleep paralysis, you know, when your eyes kind of opened up
just slightly and I'd sleep and I'd just slump in my card, leave my
car seat back before going to my next side, and you know you're looking
at your passenger side where the passenger feet would be at well, I would
sometimes put my lab bags down there. There are times where I put it
in my passenger seat sometimes I didn't always put him in the bottom, and
there was nothing there, and I thought I saw a pale child sitting crisscross
apple sauce with the biggest eyes. And I my heart started pounding because I
can't move and I can't wake up. And I woke up, and that's
where you wake here, almost I would say, hyperventilating. But I turned
on, like you know, I turned the car on. I put all
the lights in that you the interior lights, and I looked down and my
you know, it would be in the space for something small like that,
But why why are you sitting there just staring at me? And I just
started I felt like I was being just watched, not necessarily by like the
spiritual side of things, but like I would get out and I'd be walking
in the nursing homes and I just looked. I wanted to stay away from
any dark vegetation. If it didn't have lights, I will park on the
other side of the building if I have to. And if this is a
mandatory lock door and I have to go through this specific door for security reasons,
I'm fast paced walking. I don't care if I look crazy. I'm
gonna hurry if you get in here, because again most of my work is
at night, and in Oklahoma and specifically small towns there, there's only maybe
like a mile two or maybe five mile radius before you're right back into the
open fields and open woods. Or you know, even if its own property,
we're talking acres so big that yeah, there's a house on it,
but it might be so many acres do that way or this way to where
if a dogman or something wanted to lurk and creep around undetected and free and
not be watched, this is the state, This would be the area to
do it. And I still had to take this road. There's a few
other counters, not necessarily dog men. And again my brain I was thinking
where Wolf. I wasn't sure of anything, you know, I I started
asking around at nursing homes without trying to look like a madman, you know,
I have you seen anything in the area or is there you know,
anything weird in the area, Like well, you know, we get all
kinds of weird stuff. They're more talking about like just weird people. It's
like, no, if you ever like see anything weird out at night in
the field, and you know, they're like, oh, ask so and
so, and I'd go over to that nurse or this medical person, and
you know, they're like, oh, well, describe a little bit more.
And I describe it and they're like, oh, you're talking about this,
and some of them will look upset that I even ask. Some of
them look like they'll tell me. But again it looked like an I won't
say irritability, but that ay, I'm telling you this, but don't never
ask me again. And they would say skin walker or some type of shape
ship or of some type, and you know, and so I kind of
rolled with that, but I was like, I really think it was a
werewolf. So the next few nights, I'm driving and I'm hyper vigilant.
Now I'm looking left and right, and I said, okay, I'm gonna
on the straight parts. I'm gonna speed through and on the cruise was slowed
on just a little bit, speed through and I'm just gonna be cautious.
And I said, when I approached that area that I saw it, I'm
going to be hyper vigilant, keep my eyes on the road. And so
I'm driving and then like about halfway through, So the initial part of the
story happened around somewhere five six seven miles and nothing happened. I didn't feel
any bad feelings, any weird vibes. All I saw was just dark woods,
then open field and dark woods and open filled And they said, you
know what, it's nothing to worry about. And I see a guy and
uh, kind of like what you see with a mechanic or a trash man.
They have the navy blue jumper and they have like the green with the
silver in the middle, reflectors on the arms and the legs. And something
felt in my body not scary wise to slow down and help this person or
slow down check on him, because I mean, it's in the middle of
the woods. He looks I won't say loss. He's walking the opposite direction.
So he's walking, you know, like he's if he was driving a
car, you know, he'd be going the other way. And so,
you know, he sticks at his thumb like the usual hitchhiker thing to do.
But I couldn't see his face. His head was tilted down, and
I looked at the right or be his right side of his chest left for
me, because you know, everybody knows those kind of generic, you know,
classic uniforms. They have the name tag sewn into it. There was
no name tag on it. There's nothing there. And I looked and I
kind of got a more of an uncanny or not scary, but creepy feeling.
And as I looked, I saw just a little bit and he had
a ball cap on average ball cap wasn't anything significant. It might have been
your camper camo color. And he's smirked left side and face just plain,
but the right side smirked. And I thought, what a weird thing to
do as a hitchhiker, and I floored it out. I didn't give it
any thought that, hey, this is the same road that I saw that
thing. I didn't ask in the in the aspect of, hey, I
don't want this guy walking around here with this thing out here. But after
that, I was like, oh, maybe it's gone. He's gonna deal
with this self. That's weird to smirking me like that floor it out there.
Rest of the way out, you know, the other half of it.
Nothing. I was like, Okay, I made it. I didn't
see a hitchhiker. Threw that out in the back of my mind because I'm
still dealing with these nightmares. So seeing that guy was at least at my
problems at the time. Go home, rents, repeat, sleep, eat,
get out, go to work, do my other sites. Fear free
and I'm like, oh, man, I can't get a good they're in
a row. Nothing happened last night other than that guy. I should be
fine. And I drive again most of the way and I've already passed the
area where I saw the dog man, and you know, a little bit
more than half at this point, and I'm driving nothing, and I see
something jump out in front of the road, maybe enough at the end of
my headlights. It wasn't like, oh, something very far back where it
just reflected. No, it jumped out in front of my headlights. I
would say that it jumped out thirty forty feet range. So it's close enough,
and I have twenty twenty visions, close enough for me to make out
everything I'm seeing. First of it was a rabbit, and the rabbit just
run straight across. And then I see a coyot or a dog, and
it stopped and looked at my car. It looked over and made eye contact.
And then as that happened, a board came out and chased the dog.
I mean, I'm thinking in my head did. I just see what
I saw, and the board did the same thing. It stopped looked me
dead in my eyes. Now, the board just kind of looked weird,
just because you know, you see him. They are out here. It
is Oklahoma. It's not like super uncommon, but they're out here. So
it wasn't like, you know, I'm Theyking oh Man supernatural board. But
its eyes looked a little funny, but I mean it was. It was
right in front of my headlights and that was eyeshine, and it went on
and it kind of moved just a little bit and then stopped and it sat
a little bit, and so I I read my engine and it got up
and then it walked away, and I was like, okay, this is
weird. So you know, I don't afford it out still animals, and
I've heard the stories. You know, you never heard the dare. You
don't hit a goose. You don't hit any animals for no reason. For
one, that's just your humane and second of all, their bones are dents.
You're gonna mess your car up. So you know, I make sure
get off the throw and I get up out of there and I get to
my medical facility. I'm thinking Okay, made it through the third night unscathed.
Nothing weird, just a couple of wild animals. Then I go,
you know, home rents. Repeat. I'm telling this all to my girlfriend
at the time, too, and she's thinking these had her own experiences,
and she is with me one hundred percent. It wasn't super skeptical. Now
my co workers, my supervisor, my manager, nobody believes me. Oh,
Matt, you're just tired. Just just go on and get some sleep.
You know. There was times where when I told him, I even
cried when I got to office. From the first sight that they've they're thinking
I'm just getting delusional from losing sleep. They're like, somebody take all his
lab work and you process before I'm Matt, go home, get some sleep.
I get some sleep, but no amount of sleep is gonna fix what's
going on. And not to mention the nightmares, more sleep just means more
nightmares or longer nightmares. So that happened after first night. I keep telling
them, you know, I'm putting in a request to change shifts. I
don't want to work nights anymore. I'm getting freaked out by this. Now
this is the fourth night and I'm about to get paid, and I said,
I don't care how I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna get a freeway
pass. I'm never going down this road ever. Again, this is because
I have to do it. And that was dumb, and I'm thinking the
whole time being myself up. If I just not bought this fast food,
or if I had not bought this unneeded item. I kind of got a
pike pass and avoided this whole situation. And on the fourth night, I'm
driving, and this is just before that field where I saw the dogment,
and again I got that overwhelming feeling up to help. I saw a lady,
a woman, and the way the moonlight was it was just like the
first night. You know, this all relatively happened in four days, so
the moonlight's still relatively whatever cycle it's And again I'm not looking at the moon
every single day, but it was pretty much fool around that time. So
anyways, carry on. She was wearing a white sleeping gown. And at
this time I went a lot slower than I did the other guy, because
I actually I was getting ready to lean over to open the door, my
passenger door, and I got a good enough look this and let me be
a frank, I said, medical facilities. But I'm not explaining too much
further after that, but work in the nursing homes. A few nursing homes,
and so I generally see, you know, what is the typical modern
day sleeping gown, you know? And this wasn't that. This was very
old like bonnet style hold. This was like an eighteen hundreds style sleeping down.
It just looks so bland, a little ruffled up, maybe a little
bit dirty, but not like they rolled in mud. But it just looked
dated, very dated, and I could tell. And the hair was white
and long, untamed, but not like so frizzled like a bush, but
frizzy enough where it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't groomed or taken care of.
And it poured all off the side of her heads down her neck, popped
down her back and say, I say, come down to like stomach lit
and it covered her front or her face. Now my brain correlated the last
incident with the guy, why are you covering your eyes? All I could
see was the chin and there was no smiler or anything like that. And
she didn't even raise out her thumb. This one moved the other guy.
He was walking a little bit this one instead of just walking like she's walking
aside from me. As I'm about to slow down, she turned to the
direct know my car, not that she was gonna reach for the handler or
anything, but like she was waiting to be invited in. And I almost
reached open and opened the door, and I jerked back and said, wait
a second, and I floored it out of there. And when I did
that, I again the dass Challenger has a very thick bar in the back
for the brake light. I love it so even if you were foots not
on the brake, it's a red just like outer glow and your rear view.
Mari, and I don't have any tin. I didn't have any tin
in that car, so I could see pretty much read within like five ish
t ish feet behind me, and as I drive off and then super floored
off, but I put some speed behind it and I got back to my
regular travel speed, and I looked, and I saw she walked out in
the middle of the road and faced my car, just staring as as you
know, facing my direction. Though I never saw the eyes, I never
saw any facial details. After that, I was done with these encounters.
I had finally, you know, gotten paid the next day. On top
of that, I told I don't like giving ultimatums at all. I'm a
very nice guy. I will do what a company says. You know,
I also think about me. I'm a human being, yest, but I'm
also a get it done kind of guy. But with this I let him
know. I said, hey, you don't take me off nights. I
quit and I made that abundant. There have been things have been pushed over
before with but not with this. And they saw that I was serious,
and they're like, okay, all right, we'll put you on eight to
three. Said sounds great, that works for me, and I switch shift.
That was my last night shift working for this company. After that,
things dissipated, the nightmares dissipated, no dogment encounters, nothing crazy. After
that, I start working days. I got used to sleeping at nights again.
I felt a whole lot safer. I felt more relaxed, But those
thoughts kept coming back, the screaming in and the dreams, the glowing amber
eyes in the field, the hitchhikers that there's like I said, this is
miles apart from end to end. No street lights, you don't even have
your flashlight on for a phone. That things, little things I would think
about red flags would come up, and I said that was not a human
being. Those weren't actual people. There's no properties within miles, so a
lot I could actually focus and think about what I digest, what I had
saw further down the road. But never I made a thing, even in
the daytime. I never went down that highway again, not even for kicks
and giggles or you know, memorily. I don't ever want to go down
that road ever again. I can't say I'll blame me after all those wild
experiences. Holy yeah, you really went through it. Yes, absolutely,
I've had a more open mind since then to the whole you watch Halea movies
or anything else, but I know I remind myself we are not alone.
We are not alone, and respect the woods. I've heard some of your
other episodes. I don't know what I would do if I was like on
foot hiking and I saw it, or I was walking and I saw it.
I could not imagine the terror level of terror I would feel. If
I actually saw it and I heard it or smelt it, I probably would
have sent me over the edge. I'm not even gonna lie. Well,
after going through all those strange things, I think you deserve a lot of
credit for just holding it together. Wow. If you'd like to be able
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com Forward Slash podcast. We're about it the hour mark here and Matt,
I've got a lot of questions I want to ask you about these experiences,
but we're up against it time wise. Would you be willing to come back
and do a part two where I could ask you all these questions. Yes,
I'd be available for a part two. Vic, Oh great, well
let's do that. Then I'll just have you back on and I'll ask those
questions and part two and we'll just do it that way. Then that sounds
great, Vig, thank you, well, you know you're welcome. But
having said that, thanks against so much for your time and have a great night.