At Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us for another livestream episode
of Dogman Encounters. I really appreciate you joining us for tonight's show. We're
gonna welcome back a guest. You came on episode four ninety seven and told
us about what were, for the most part, positive encounters he had with
a particular dogmian that he helped when he was a kid. As you'll remember,
code An episode four ninety seven, came on and told us about this
juvenile dogmian that he met when he was a kid. He found out that
it was injured and he actually tried to help it. Well, he had
other encounters with that dog Men dog man years later, and everything just turned
out to be positive. Well, when we left him towards the end of
that episode, episode four ninety seven, there was a lot of sentiment hoping
that he would have another experience with one of these guys down the road,
most notably that particular dog Men. Well, unfortunately, he contacted me earlier
this week to let me know that last Saturday he had another encounter. It
wasn't with that dog man, it was with a different one and well,
things didn't go very well unfortunately, So without wasting any more time. Let's
bring Cody in here now. Cody, thanks so much for coming back.
Hey, big thanks for having me. Yeah, I want to first and
foremost say to everybody that last time said that they think I've got an encounter
again in future. I got words for you, Yeah, big words.
Things definitely didn't go the way we had hoped. No, and thank you
for everybody that did listen and last time. You know, it was just
shy of a month now and looking back and on the video again and seeing
all your comments and everything. Thank you all so much, everybody. You've
all been very supportive, very good to me. But yeah, you know,
despite what we had all hoped, I guessed from last time and based
off of here and everything, it was a very different experience this time.
It was definitely not the little guy that I had found before, that's for
sure. Yeah, no doubt about that. It was quite different. I'll
tell you what though, Coldie. For the people who've missed episode four ninety
seven, please tell them about yourself. Yeah, I'll give a little recap.
So again, my name's Cody. I'm from Minnesota. I currently live
in Florida. When I had these encounters as a child. I was twelve
years old is when I first found the young dog man. I found him
injured in my family storage barn on our hobby farm, excuse me, and
I helped to patch up his wounds and clean up his blood, you know.
And then I had encountered him a couple more times over the years as
I got older, and he made it known to me that it was him.
So we met up again when we were both grown. And you know,
I went on to serve in the military after high school and I was
wounded overseas and when I came home, I had encountered him again and he
kind of helped me to get the help I needed at that time. So
that was, you know, a positive thing to look back onto. It's
definitely not the kind of experience that many people have, so thinking about it,
you know, I'm very grateful that things weren't the way they did.
I'm so glad they went the way they did. Also, Yeah, when
you think about dog me and encounters only you don't attach any positive spins to
them. You think they're all going to be negative, but you're living proof
that sometimes they can be positive, and thank goodness for that. Yeah,
absolutely, it's a little bit of a different story this time, but you
get what you get. Yes, it is, And I know, I
know people were probably hoping for an update on anything with him. You know,
I forgot to I already forgot to mention. I'm already forgetten you know.
I I had mentioned that I had the dreams about him since I moved
down here to Florida, and I haven't had any, uh since the last
time I was on the show, unfortunately, So no no updates there with
that. But and again we don't we don't know if it's just dreams or
if it's if there's actually something there or not. But I just wanted to
let folks I know some people were wanting to know. But unfortunately, nothing
new with that. So you've we've had dreams about the bad dog Man,
but yeah, unfortunate, like you said, not the good one, right.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny how that works, isn't it. Well,
at first glance, it might be, but no, it really makes
sense that last encounter, the most recent one that happened last Saturday night.
Yeah, that is going to leave you thinking about it and cost some nightmares.
So I actually get it. You said that you knew about the big
following, all the listeners rooting for you and supporting you when you came across
the comments. But how long have you known about all the supports you've been
getting from coming on episode four ninety seven? I'm sorry you said before,
No, how long have you known about all the supports you've been getting from
the listeners on episode four ninety seven when you came on and did that.
Oh well, right after we did that recording, you know, I went
and I looked on the life I've stream and I could see people commenting and
already and I was able to look back and actually read the chat that happened
while we were talking, and that's when I first saw it, you know,
and that was that was a great feeling right away. And then just
seeing that number has grown over time. So that's it's since since we did
the episode, you know, is I knew right away, But so I
guess for about a month now, you know. But it's it's still great
to see. Time does fly. It doesn't seem like it's been that long,
but yeah, I guess you're right. I guess it has been just
about a month. You know. One thing I forgot to ask you last
time around, codeven, I should have asked you is whether or not you're
actually hoping to have another encounter with that good dog men were you? You
know, I'm I think I mentioned it. I'm probably never going to actively
seek him out. I know a lot of people were saying in the comments,
you know, you should go home, you should go camping seep shows
up. I don't think I'm ever going to do that because I still don't
believe that we should probably really be actively seeking these creatures out. I think
they're better left alone. They definitely don't need us for anything, really.
But if I ever do see them again, I'll take it for what it
is when it comes, you know, I think it will definitely be a
nicer experience than this one I had last weekend. But if I see him,
I see him great. If I don't, you know, I'll always
have the memories. Well, that's a good way to look at it.
Yeah, you never know, an encounter with even that dog man might not
go all that well because of whatever variable. So I guess why push your
luck? So that makes sense to look at it that way. When you
contacted me earlier this week, Code, you're in a really bad way without
telling us about the details of this latest encounter. What can you tell us
about how this most recent one affected you? Oh gosh, well, well
it was not good. It was pretty bad on my end, you know.
I after I had seen it, I tried to tell some people about
it and didn't go great, and I started I just was so frantic.
I couldn't relax. I started drinking to try and calm myself down. That
didn't do nothing. You know. When I finally Monday morning, once they
reopened, I called the VA and I said, hey, I need to
come in. I need to see about getting a refill on some of those
old uh anti anxiety meds I used to be on, you know, so
they started me back on those. But oh gosh, I remember when I
called Vic on Tuesday. I finally texted in Tuesday morning. I said,
hey, I saw another one that didn't go well. And he called me
and he said, how you doing? And I said, well, the
meds haven't kicked in yet, so you know there's that And Vic laughs and
I said, well you laugh, but I'm only half joking. He goes,
oh, really, I think I think almost you were even expecting it
to be something a little a little better than what it was, Vic.
But I was, oh gosh, I was I was panicking. I was
cursing, just relaying it all back to Vic. I was not in a
good state at all. Yeah, Like I said, I could tell you're
definitely in a bad way. I was really taken aback. I thought if
I heard back from you, it would be positive things, maybe an encounter
with that same dog man and another quote unquote good encounter. But yeah,
when you told me you had a bad encounter and I could tell you're having
so much trouble, I thought, what in the world, what's going on?
What happened? So yeah, I couldn't contact you quick enough to find
out what was wrong and what happened. But speaking of that, all right,
Cody, please tell us about this most recent encounter. Now, give
us every last detail that comes to mind, all right. So it kind
of started last week last Friday with the last live stream with Mike and Paul.
A great episode. Thank to you to you both. You're listening.
That was a great episode. And I remember it had come up somebody was
saying, and I think Mike talked about it too, like you can conjure
these dog men or something like that, you know, by by speaking about
them, and that's that can't necessarily be true, you know, because if
that were the case, VIC would be seeing dog men every hour every day
all that stuff, and similar people, similar things like that, you know.
And I just thought that was kind of interesting and it kind of stayed
in my mind, and I'm like, yeah, that probably don't seem right.
Well, we go to the next day, Saturday night. It was
probably around eleven eleven thirty at night, and I was taking my dogs outside
for the last time of the night. And I have I have two small
Chihuahua mixes and a small uh quenty a Mexican hair list, and the jolo
in. One of the little chihuahuas had gone out, but the third one
didn't want to go outside, and I thought that was really unusual because she's
kind of the alpha of the pack and she had her ears down, she
had her tail between her legs, and she was shaken, and she never
gets like that, you know. She's got a bit of a Napoleon complex
to her, and she didn't want to go outside, and I'm like,
what's going on here, girl, Let's go. So I picked her up
and I carried her out back. Now, when you go out to my
backyard of my house, I've got a screened in porch that sticks out a
bit off the back, and the only light that I have back there is
one single little light right by the sliding glass door there, and it doesn't
really penetrate the screen porch too well, so it's not super light when you
actually get off the porch. But I took her out there. I carried
her out and I set her down in the grass, and she's still kind
of just shaking and staying at my feet. She doesn't want to go.
I think, what are you doing, girl? Well, I'm out there
for a little bit. And then I hear this really weird, off sounding
bark come in the distance from behind my house. Now, there's two other
houses behind my house. I live in town, you know, I live
in a neighborhood. I'm not in the country anymore, unfortunately. But I
hear this bark. And we hear barks all the time because just about everybody
in our neighborhood has dogs too. But this bark sounded really weird. It
sounded really off, really low, and it almost sounded like someone was like
when it started, it was a really weird, like human kind of like
I don't even know how to describe. I guess I made the noise.
I don't know how to describe it. But I heard that. I thought
that's weird. And then I was hit with this really odd smell. It
kind of smelled like a mix of wet dog and like rotten fish. And
then I start to hear like crunching of leaves and sticks from behind my fence.
I've got a six foot tall privacy fence that goes around my yard.
I've got a decent sized backyard, and I'm just looking down at my dog
all the time. I'm just listening to this and smelling the stuff, not
paying too much attention, but obviously thinking, like especially at that weird bark
and the smell are weird. And then the crunching, I figure, maybe
it's just squirrels or something. We got some crazy squirrels around my yard in
the trees. And my dog is still down there shaking, And then I
hear a low pitched growl and my heart stops and I freeze, and I
think I know that sound. I've heard that sound before. I heard that
sound when I was twelve years old, and I encountered that little juvenile dog
man. So I slowly look up from my dog up to the fence,
and I can see the outline of a very tall dog man standing on the
other side of my fence. Now mind you that again, that light from
the porch didn't get off the porch too well, so I couldn't make out
the full thing, like in great detail, but I could still tell what
I was seeing. And you know, his head was probably about two or
three feet above this six foot fence, and he's looking right at me,
and he's got red glowing eyes. And I'm starting to panic internally because I
thought, oh, crap, oh crap, oh crap, And obviously I
said something much worse than crap, but I thought, this is the nightmare
scenario. This is one with red eyes and they're glowing. You know,
if you caught the last episode I was in, I kinda I kind of
elaborated on what my thoughts might be a little bit if it if they were
the dog men with the red eyes, And I'll get into that in a
little bit here, but just to describe what I could see, you know,
the red glowing eyes and his head, it kind of had the shape
of the the what's it called the werewolf from that movie Werewolf in London.
That's what I could kind of make out what the shape of his head looked
like. And he was tall, obviously because he was over top of the
fence. But he was thin and gangly, you know. He wasn't He
didn't look like super jacked and buffed up like the dog man that I encountered
was as an adult. He's really thin, gangly, and he looked like
he was angy, you know. His hair looked kind of patchy and messed
up, and it was black. It was dark black from what I could
tell. And he had the ears pointed up and he was growling, so
I could kind of see he had his teeth showing a little bit, not
too well that I could see from that, but he's just standing there staring
at me with those glowing eyes, growling a little bit. And I'm like,
Okay, what do I do? What do I do? What do
I do? Panicking in my head again to me, this is the nightmare,
Samario, this is one with red eyes. And I did the only
thing I could think to do was to bend down, keeping my eyes on
this thing, picked up my dog and then make my way back into the
porch and back inside. I got back inside, I turned off the lights,
I locked the door, and I closed the uh the curtain, and
I went into the bedroom and I found my partner in there and I said,
hey, you got to look out the window. You got to see
this. He goes, what I said, there's something outside. I can't
describe it. You got to see. So we look out the window and
there's nothing there. And I thought that can't be right. I even flicked
on the light and there's nothing there. And he said, what, what's
the problem. I said, I don't know how to describe it, but
there I think there was something there watching And he said, do you think
as the person? I said no, I don't know what it was.
I couldn't say it in the moment. And he's like, well, it
must be nothing. You must be just seeing things. So go to bed
not too long after, and I'm just shaking. I can't sleep, absolutely
shaking by this thing again to me, just the absolute night er scenario,
see in this thing. And so we're in bed and it's quiet and dark
in the room, and I start to hear not too long after, scratching
sounds behind me on the wall. The headboard of my bed is against the
outside wall, and I start to hear these scratches along the wall, and
I thought, no, no, no, please, no, he's outside.
Oh no, And the scratches go on for a little bit and then
they stop, and then I hear a loud thump right above me, and
like he jumped on the roof. Crap, he's on the roof. And
somehow I'm the only one hearing any of this. You know, my partner's
sleeping next to me. We got the two small shouaas in the bed under
the covers. They're not reacting. And my Jolo's got her own bed on
the floor next to the bed, and she's not wracking. Like, am
I really the only one hearing this? Like how I know I'm a light
sleeper usually as it is, but you know, I couldn't sleep at on
everybody's sleeping through this. And I hear, you know, the footsteps,
just one at a time, slowly, some thump on the roof above me,
and the thumps kind of start to slowly go towards inward to the bedroom,
and then I start to hear them towards the kitchen and then after a
little bit it stops and then it's just quiet. It's all gone, and
I'm thinking, what in the world, There's no way that this all happened
again again, and it's a different one this time. I thought I'd never
if I ever experienced another one again, I would figure that, you know,
it would be the one that I saw before. But of course,
now I'm in Florida. And when I saw him before, it was all
in Minnesota, and I figured, I'm not going to see him down here,
but here I am seeing an entirely different one, and it's one with
the red eyes. It's the nightmare scenario for me. So anyways, so
that's how it ended. And so I go outside the next morning to check
to look around to check for evidence, and I I look at the wall
outside, and there's no scratches on the wall outside, and so I kind
of thought, well, maybe then he wasn't actually scratching. Maybe he was
just running his hands across it, you know, because it doesn't look like
it was scratched up, didn't look like any damage to the roof. And
when he was standing behind the fence, he didn't put his hands up on
the fence or anything. I never saw his hands. He just kind of
stood there behind it. But he would have been standing in my neighbor's yard
who lives behind me, and they've got a little like five foot tall chain
link fence that goes around their property and then my fences against theirs, and
so obviously I couldn't, you know, just walk into the yard and check
the fence or anything. But I couldn't just from looking from the road,
I couldn't see any any signs of hair or anything broken or anything. So
I'm thinking, did I even witness this thing? Did I see it?
You know? Because I've got like I, like I described in the last
episode, and I touched on a little bit here. I've got a injury
from my time in the military. I got messed up pretty bad in an
ied last So sometimes I wonder, you know, like, did I see
that? Am I just imagining this thing? Regardless of if I believe I
saw it or not. At this point, I'm still super shaking up about
it. And like I said, a little bit, I touched on it
a little bit. I'm I started drinking every day to kind of try and
take the edge off, just because I'm on edge all the time. I
started getting really irritable again, and nothing's helping, you know. I tried,
like I said, I tried telling my partner about it. He didn't
believe me, just there's nothing out there. And I tried telling my next
door neighbor's she and her husband are my best friends down here, and I
talked to her, I said, have you noticed anything weird around here lately?
Because we helped look out with each other because the crime in this town
has started to kind of go up recently, so we keep in touch with
each other about that. We'll let each other know if we caught anything in
our security cameras everything like that, you know. And of course I don't
have any security cameras in the backyard, so if I had seen, if
I were to see anything, I didn't naturally, I only have them in
the front yard. And then when I did teck the cameras, there was
nothing on them in the front yard. But she says, no, what
do you mean, what do you mean seeing anything? And I said,
well, I described to her the sounds I heard the night before and that
weird smell, and I said, I I thought I saw like some glowing
red lights up by the fence. I didn't say it was red eyes or
anything, but I said, I thought I saw some red lights up above
the fence, and she goes, no, I didn't. What do you
think that could be? I said, well, you know, I do
kind of hear these stories sometimes about these potentially supernatural things, you know,
And then she just she just gives me a little punch on the shoulder.
You go, oh, you're just messing with me. You didn't, You're
just playing. So I'm thinking, once again, okay, great, well
here we are again. I can't tell anybody again about this stuff. So
just having a super hard time with it at those points. So Monday morning
finally comes along, and I think I said it before a little bit too.
I called the VA. I said, hey, can I come in.
I want to see about getting on some of these medications that I used
to be on. I haven't been on any meds for probably about a year
a year and a half now. I've been doing pretty good without him.
But I went in and they were able to refill it because I was on
him before. So Tuesday morning I went in and I got him, and
then that's when I decided I should tell Vic. So I texted Vic and
let him know. And then you know, we had our phone call and
I was frantic and panicking, and just as I recalled the thing, and
I was just terrified having to talk about it again, just reliving that incident,
seeing this nightmare creature. But yeah, that's the gist of the encounter
this time. I've got a bit to say about it, for sure,
but I wanted to make sure that I got that the whole encounter described out
this time before I get into any of that. You know, I felt
so bad for you when you started telling me about all the things it did,
and the things that it did were a textbook for dog men. I
mean, it showed itself to you to let you know that it was there,
and then before you knew it, it was knocking on the house to
let you know, Cay, I'm still around, and then it goes up
onto the roof and I'm just checking off boxes, like I told you that
day, just checking off boxes. That's just textbook dog me behavior. It's
just horrible that of all the things that could have been doing, it decided
to just mess with you that way. That's awful. Yeah, they do
like to do that, don't they. You know? And that's that's the
first thing you told me was when I talked to Vic again, he's calming
me down, rasuwing me. You know, he could have done anything he
wanted to. What he wanted to do was just show you that he was
there and scare you. And he did a fantastic job. I fell for
it, you know, oh that he did. They're so good at doing
that. But like I told you that day, I mean, it was
just a performance. If you wanted to get you, he had every opportunity
to do that. He could have just broken in through the window or through
a wall and grabbed you. But the whole thing, like I told you
that day, that never happened because it didn't want to do that. So
yeah, I'm gonna say the same thing now. I told you half a
million times in that conversation. If he wanted to harm you, it would
have already happened. So I mean, yeah, something goofy might happen,
and yeah, he might decide to change his line of thinking if you were
to try to shoot him or take profound action or something like that. But
yeah, I mean, unless you run into a belligerent one that just actually
wants to kill people on site, they're very liberate and how they act normally.
So yeah, thank goodness. If you have to have an encounter with
one that wants to to maybe have a little fun with you, that's one
thing. But if you have an encounter with one that actually wants to hurt
you or kill you, that's totally different. And like I told you that
day on the phone, he proved with his own actions that that's not the
kind of doggy in the is thank goodness right. And the thing that you
know, in the in the time that since Vic and I had our last
phone call, you know, he really really calmed me down at that phone
call. He needed that super bad. And you know, the the medication
that I got from the VA has helped to you know, calm my mind,
so I'm able to think rationally and clearly and absolutely take in everything Vic
just said. You know, if he wanted to do anything to me,
he would have. All he did was stand there and stare at me,
you know, and then he went and made some noise like I'm still here,
you know. But that's why I'm really I'm really glad that you know,
you asked me after we were done talking if I wanted to come back
on the show and talk about it, And he said, the only caveat
is only if you think it's going to help you, because if you don't
think it's going to then I don't want you to come back and make things
worse. And it's good to come and talk about this because y'all are really
the only people I have been able to talk to about it, you know,
and talking things through really helps me a lot. And you know,
from the last time that I was on the show and seeing all your positive
comments and everything, the support is outstanding. Thank you all so much.
This is the place I know that I can come and talk about this because
I tried talking to my best friends about it. I tried talking and my
partner about it, and I got nowhere with it. So being able to
come here and talk about it and hearing everything is fantastic. Thank you all
so much. But in the time that I've had to think about it,
you know, I talked to it probably three four days ago. One of
the things that I was saying was, you know, I had my preconceived
notions about this one with the red eyes. That's what scared me so much,
this nightmare scenario, seeing the one with the red eyes and the fact
that his head looked like the werewolf head from that movie. You know,
it was scary. He physically his appearance scared me. That was the biggest
thing, because I think back to the dog Man that I had encountered before
as a child, and tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm going to
refer to them separately. I'm going to refer to the old one as golden
eyes and the new one is red Eyes, so I can properly tell you
which ones I'm talking about and everything, you know, and keep it shorter.
But when I had encouned for golden Eyes as a kid and a little
bit later as a young adult, he looked very natural. He looked like
he was a timber. He had a timberwolf head on a large like mister
Universe human tie body, you know, Whereas when I see this guy now,
he looked like a movie monster. And so that just it scared me
so much more because of that. And if y'all remember, I'm kind of
a scaredy cat too from Path from the Past, I'm very easily scared.
So the biggest thing too, of course, it was these red eyes.
All like I keep saying, so, before all of this happened, you
know, I had kind of preconceived notions that, again, we don't really
understand fully what these dog men are. Are they creatures, Are they flesh
and blood creatures, Are they spiritual? Are they demonic? Are they from
the ether? We don't know. But I kind of had the theory before
that the one golden eyes that I had seen, that he was something flesh
and blood creature natural. Whereas when I saw this red eyes and I panicked.
My thought process there was because I was under the assumption before this that
the red eyed ones might be something potentially demonic, you know, something evil,
because it didn't seem natural to me because of how scary you looked.
And in nature, there are so few animals with red eyes, you know,
beyond some fish and reptiles and bugs and things, but nothing that really
glows their eyes naturally glow, you know, there's very few animals that have
stuff like that, certainly nothing we think of that are like very large humanoid
dog people. So I always had kind of been under the assumption that maybe
they would be potentially a monster, and so that's what super scared me.
But after having this encounter and having the time to think about it, especially
with a much clearer head, and having Vic, you know, reassure me
and talk me down, I almost wonder if maybe they aren't, because in
my mind, if something demonic wants to do something to you, they will.
They won't just watch you. That's all he did. He just looked
at me from beyond the fence. He didn't do anything, you know.
So I'm almost wondering now maybe it's just we we just don't know about these
creatures. Maybe there's there's so much more than than we could ever know,
and so my thought process has maybe almost changed on what this is now.
A very good point that Vic had brought up to me, He asked me,
do you watch any other dog Man shows? Do you listen to many?
And that was a very good point because I don't really Probably two or
three years ago I had seen some stuff on YouTube, different channels, But
looking at them now, it's like those were almost like creepy pastas. You
know, it's somebody reading from a script, so you have no idea if
those experiences are credible or not. Whereas you have VIC shows, these people
come on and they're able to share their experiences and you can hear it in
their voices. These people are genuine, you know, But again the preconceived
notions, especially from those shows. You know, the dog man ripped my
husband's face off. He had red eyes and he ate his face, you
know, stuff like that. You hear the creepy stuff that's meant to scare
you, you know, so that may have contributed to the scare factor.
They're a bit But I'm trying to make sure I I stay on track here,
and I don't forget what I wanted to say. But I think that's
the gist of it there, Vick. If you if you if you think
I'm forgetting anything, or if I'm getting off track, if you can steer
me back on. But I think that's the gist of what I wanted to
say. With that is I almost wonder if they are all just doing their
thing, you know, because he could have hurt me, just like Golden
Eyes could have all those years ago when he was young. You know,
when we were both young. I was right up on him, I was
touching him his arm when I was wrapping it up. He could have done
whatever he wanted me there. Even as a four foot tall little guy,
he had claws and teeth. I don't have, you know, but he
never he never did anything bad to me. And now that I think about
it, red Eyes didn't do anything bad to me either. He scared the
crap out of me. But you know that's almost a part of it's,
I think, is our lizard brains. We fear the unknown. But part
of it, I think is my own fault for falling for you know,
knowing that we what, we know that these guys are here to put on
a show. So sorry if I rambled up there. I wanted to make
sure I got that out. No, you didn't ramble. The more you
talk about a dog man encounter, the more it's going to benefit you.
So if I can keep you talking, then yeah, that's a great thing.
So don't apologize for that. And yeah, as long as you remember
what you just shared with this, the fact that yeah, he could have
gotten to you and done whatever, but he didn't because he didn't want to,
then yeah, you'll be in a much better place than you were.
I think what Tuesday when we spoke for the first time about that encounter,
Yeah, I think it wants Tuesday now. I was just saying, please
remember the fact that yes, he could have done anything he wanted to do
to you, like you just said a few moments ago, but he never
harmed you. He was just doing his performance to try to get a response
out of you. As long as you remember that and never lose sight of
that, then you can definitely deal with this in a healthy way. That's
really the only key to being able to do that. So that's why I've
told you that so many times, to just reinforce it. But Cody,
I've got my first question here for you from Sheannanman. It's human's or and
Sheannon's question is how far does code you live from any large body of woods?
Do I live by what? So are you cut out? No,
no problem. Shannon wants to know how far do you live from any large
body of woods? So I live pretty close to two different separate bodies.
There's a nature trail probably about two blocks from my house. It's a big
wooded area that's actually one of my favorite places to go. I go there
quite often. But the town that I live in in Florida is actually on
the edge of a massive national forest in the center of the state, so
I'm not far and off from the woods. Yeah, that definitely doesn't help.
But then again, I mean there's nothing like living in the woods,
or at least buy the woods. I mean, give a little here,
take a little there, So I guess it all evens out absolutely, that's
right. I've got another question for you from James G. And James question
is what is the relationship between orbs and dog Man? Do you know?
I've heard a little bit about this, and I've seen some stuff on other
channels. I don't want to plug any other channels on your show, Vic,
I'm not going to do that, but I've seen I've seen some more
credible stuff than like the creepypasta type stuff. I personally don't know. I've
never seen an ORB that I'm aware of. Maybe I haven't just don't realize
it. I may thought it was a light or something. But I've heard
that there's some kind of there might be a potential thing with I think I've
heard more of that with like Sasquash, and you might know more about that
than me, Vic, I don't know a whole lot about sasquatches, but
but I've heard that there's a relationship, a potential relation from between like orbs
and dog and Sash squash things like that, some kind of maybe potential alien
connection. I can't speak beyond anything I've seen in some other videos and things
like that, but I've never seen anything that I can think of. Got
another question for you from Darren. Darren wants to know where did this encounter
happen. This happened in my backyard in Florida. I live in central Florida
right now, North central Florida. Yeah, a lot of people think that
there really aren't many dog men down there in Florida, but yeah, there
have been plenty of encounters that have happened there, that's for sure. I've
got a comment from Shannon U man Zor again, and her question is or
comment is not a question. But he may see them on and off for
the rest of his life unfortunately, And that's true. It might happen.
But as long as you remember the things that we talked about code even you
should be able to handle them, take them in stride. So I really
hope you never forget. No. Absolutely, Like like you said, you
told me the same thing that you did the first time we talked on the
phone call. And I even said it too. I said, I've heard
you say that word for word on so many occasions in other recordings on your
show and other podcasts you've been on as well. But to hear it comes
straight from you, you know it, it hits different to hear it be
directed towards you directly. And then that that calmed me down. I'm sure
you remember that calmed me down on the phone call almost immediately, you know.
And you had a really good analogy too, that really put things into
perspective. And like you said, so long as I remember that, keep
my mind calm, stay rational about it, then everything should be okay.
That's right. Just keep it all in perspective. That's the key to it,
it really is. I've got another question for you from Keith Smith,
and Keith wants to know or I guess it's a comment. Her comment is
perhaps a difference between dog men's eye colors determines the evil in them. See,
that's what I had originally thought, too, especially because when I remember
golden eyes. You know, he had those beautiful gold eyes, and his
eyes didn't glow, and I don't remember ever really seeing any eye shine on
his eyes. But that's because I never flashed any light directly into his eyes.
There was the time that he was in front of my car, but
he was standing up above my light, so they weren't directly in his eyes,
so they weren't shining. His eyes didn't glow Red Eyes. His eyes
did glow, And I used to think that too, you know, maybe
there's a potential connection with that, with the demonic thing, the potentially evil
thing. But I almost think after this encounter, you know, just the
fact that Red Eyes didn't do anything to me, really, he just looked
at me. It was it was on me for getting freaked out like I
did. He really didn't do anything. He probably did try to scare me
once he came up to the house, but beyond that, I almost don't
know about that anymore, you know. But I'm not an expert by any
means. These are just my thoughts over the last couple of days. That's
a funny thing. There are no experts in this. You have some people
who tell you that they are, but yeah, there are no experts.
And I'm not gonna share this person's name, but I see a comment that's
been left stating that dog men visit Earth from Hell through portals. That's the
problem with this whole dog Man field. You've got so many people making comments
like that is fact when we don't know that there's no way to know for
sure where they come from. So, yeah, if you're going to make
a comment about these guys, please separate what we think we do know from
what we have no way of knowing. There's no way, like I said,
that we could know definitively where these guys come from. So we don't
know if they come from hell. We don't know. If there's another comment
earlier stating that angels call dog men hell hounds, we don't know that you
whoever made that comment, doesn't know that definitively. That's what causes so many
eyewitnesses and other people who aren't eyewitnesses, they're just really interested in the dogma
phenomena phenomenon to be so confused about all this. They'll read all this information
that's just put out there as fact, when in fact it's just opinion.
So please keep that in mind. And then I see where Kate Smith has
made another comment. She said, I believe if you're a believer, you're
protected, and she just might be right. Maybe you know, I'm a
Christian myself, I definitely believe that there have been times in life that I've
been protected by God. A little fun fact about that. Actually I had
shared it with Vic I remember on the first time we talked, but I
forgot to mention it the last time we recorded. But I remember the first
time I had encountered Golden Eyes as an adult, you know, I was
seventeen years old, and when I saw him and wasn't fully connecting the dots
of what was happening, I had a sense of existential dread that came over
me, like I was going to die. Obviously I didn't, but I
got that feeling, you know. And then years later when I was overseas
and I was wounded. You know, I was wounded pretty bad. Like
I said, my head got torn up pretty bad, my feet, my
knees, my back, everything like that. But I didn't get that sense.
When that happened, I knew I wasn't going to die. So I
feel like there's definitely a sense of potentially a sense of protection there. But
that's that's something for me to keep in mind now as well. If I
do encounter anymore dog men in the future, do I feel that sense again?
You know? But that's a long way around that I'm sorry, but
yeah, there could be potentially some protection there. You know, hopefully I'll
never have another encounter, but I guess time will tell. That's yet to
be seen, it really is. The next question is from Shean and humans
Were and Shannon's question is, Couldie do you think dog men can tell when
a person has already had a dog meaning encounter. I've heard that before.
There's really no way of us knowing. It could be if there's some actual
what's it called, if there's some merit to this imprinting thing, because like
I said before, I feel that Golden Eyes has imprinted on me. I
don't know if I have on him or not. And if that's something that
other dog men can see or sense, whatever you want to call it,
there's a chance there is. It tends to be that most people that how
do I put it, people do There are some people that do have multiple
encounters. You know, some people are fortunate enough to only have one or
unfortunate to have one in the first place, but a lot of people have
reported multiple encounters. If you remember, Keith came on not too long before
I did, he had many many encounters, and so there's a chance that
that is the case. We really just don't have any way of knowing.
Unfortunately. Yeah, there's so many things about these guys that it really would
be nice to know, but I guess we're going to just have to guess
about so many of these things. I've got another comment for you from Kate
Smith. She says to me, being protected means never seeing them, and
she just might be right. Like I said, she just might be right
about that. I've got another question from Darren for you. Darren wants to
know did you smell him before you saw him. I'm going to answer that
question, but I kind of want to go back to what Katie said real
quick. You know, never encountering one is the is protection, which is
real funny because you think about it. I remember Mike and Paul had talked
about it last week. There are so many people who say they want to
see one, they want to encounter one. And I remember you vic two.
You even said when we recorded last time. You said there that I
probably don't see it this way, but there are a lot of people who
consider them, who consider myself me lucky for having the experience I did as
a kid. You know, and you think about it and It's funny.
I remember Paul and Mike saying like, yeah, people want to see one,
but they expect it to go like a happy like oh I see you
wave high, you know, and then leave peacefully. But a lot of
times that's not the case. So people get terrified of these things, you
know, bluff charges and making the presence known, enforcing the encounter. So
in a way, Katie, I think you're very right on that is the
best way is not to see one, but to answer to answer Darren's question.
Now, I'm sorry, what was the question again, Oh, no
problem. Yeah, you wanted to know if you smelled that dog man before
you saw it, talking about red Eyes. I did. Yeah, I
did smell him because the first thing I realized about the whole thing, I
heard that really weird off sounding like bark sound, and then not long after
that that smell hit me. It was like a mix of dog and rotten
fish. So I definitely did smell him. Yeah, they don't smell good,
that's for sure. I've got a question. It's a general question from
Earth Files UK, and that question is do dog men take care of their
own dead? We don't know. There are so many things like that that
we have no way of knowing. All we can do is yes, maybe
someday we'll find out. But I wouldn't hold my breath. I really wouldn't
recommend doing that. The next question is from Ky from sixteen seventy five,
and their question is, Cody, did you get the primal feeling vibration in
the chest when it growled? Thanks Keith. Oh, absolutely I did,
and I did with Golden Eyes when I was a kid. You know,
he growled at me when I first met him, and I got that rattling
in my bones, and I definitely felt it this time with the red eyes
too, And this time I knew what that sound was, so it scared
me even more. Yeah, I mean, this is a totally different encounter
than what you have with Golden Eyes, so I'm sure it did frighten me
a lot more. It's not surprising. The next question would be from Marco
aka Joe, and that's kind of a stretch. If his name is Marco,
then why do you say goodbye? Joe? That's all right anyway.
His question is, Cody, do you believe dog men are supernatural beings or
flesh and blood animals. I'm really on the cusp of it. You know,
it's so difficult to tell. With the first encounter I had with Golden
Eyes, I was able to physically touch him, helping him clean his wound.
He bled, so to me, that's a sign of being a flesh
and blood literally blood creature, you know, But you hear of all these
other stories and it's just hard to tell. Like even with this past encounter
this last week with Red Eyes, like I said, I heard the sounds
of the scratching on the wall and walking on the roof. Now you figure
a creature that's probably eight nine feet tall is going to do some damage when
it jumps up onto something like that. But the roof looked unharmed. There
were no scratches on the wall, and there was nothing on any of the
fences outside. So that almost makes me think maybe he was something potentially supernatural.
The fact that he didn't damage anything. You know, I have no
idea. It's it's such a strange thing to try and figure out, because,
like I said, Golden Eyes, I physically touched him, and he
looked like a natural thing that should exist in the world. To me,
Red Eyes, when I first saw him, he didn't look natural. He
looked like a movie monster. It's just so hard to tell. Every dog
man seems to be so different, and that it's almost like you almost have
to wonder, are we ever really gonna know? Do we really want to
know? I mean we do because we ask, but in people research,
but really my opinion, I'm leaning more towards I think flesh and blood creatures.
But it's it's almost impossible to say. I've said this before. If
you do what I do for any period of time, it's only natural you're
going to bounce back and forth from at one moment being convinced that these guys
have to be flesh and blood, and then the next moment you're convinced that,
okay, maybe they're aliens or maybe they're supernatural beings. You just bounce
back and forth, back and forth. If you think about it, if
they are flesh and blood, how could you explain an eye witness in in
Vermont having an encounter one morning, for example, they get freaked out,
they fly home to Miami or to someplace around the Everglades. Actually, then
the next morning they have an encounter with the same dog man out their back
door. If it's flesh and blood, you cannot explain that away, but
if they're supernatural you could. But then again, on the other hand,
if they are supernatural, then they do so many things, things that point
soundly towards them being flesh and blood. So yeah, it's really a vicious
circle that it's just so hard to make sense out of it, really is.
The next question for you is from Raider, and Raider wants to know
Coudie. Is there a chance it's offspring. Is there a chance it is
offspring of Golden Eyes? Or is he too big to be his? I
never thought of that. I don't think he is, just because he looks
so drastically different, you know, Golden Eyes, like I said, he
looked like he had the head of a large timberwolf on like a super jacked
body, you know, like an almost humanoid body. But his coloration,
his build, everything was so different from Red Eyes. I don't think.
I don't really think there is a connection there. And again the fact that
well, like Vic just touched on it. But you know, I'm from
Minnesota and that's where I encountered Golden Eyes, and now down here in Florida
this completely different encounter. But like Vick just just talked on, you know,
just somebody encountered one and Vermont and in the same one again in Miami.
So I guess that could potentially be a chance. But I didn't think
of it that way, you know, But I think they just looked too
different. Like the head shape especially was extremely different. You know. It's
not to say that he couldn't be It's not to say that a muscular person
can't have a skinny person offspring. But I think they just looked way too
entirely different to be to be potentially related. I think he might be onto
something. That's one heck of Bavarians in appearance for those two two be related.
So yeah, I'll bet you're right. I'll bet they're not. I've
got another question for you from Darren, and his question is, doesn't it
make more sense that these creatures are an off world species making their way here.
I've heard of that theory too, that they're aliens. That's intriguing.
I love the idea of alien and I can't think I can't imagine where the
only life in the universe, you know, So to think that there's a
potential chance that this super advanced canid race craft on Earth and they're just stuck
here. That's a fascinating thought, but I have no way to prove that.
I don't think anybody does. But it's it is a really interesting thought
theren. I'm glad you brought that up. It is interesting, and that
really would explain a lot of things. Maybe they are time will tell.
Well, possibly time will tell. I wouldn't hold my breath for that,
though. I've got another question for you from Toby mckimmey. And Toby's question
is can dogman mine speak if they choose to. I think I have experienced
that. If anybody remembers me recounting about golden Eyes when after I had helped
him in the barn, when he got back up and he was about to
go out of the barn, he looked back at me before running out,
and I could have sworn orn I heard clear as day in my mind,
somebody say, thank you. No, I I was twelve years old.
You know that was seventeen years ago. I'm twenty eight and I'll be twenty
nine soon. So it was seventeen years ago, two thousand and seven.
So it could be, especially with the way my mind is now, I
could be misremembering, but I feel like, I heard something in my head
say thank you to me that day, So that's my experience with it.
I didn't hear anything like that this time, but there are so many other
eyewitnesses that have reported hearing it, so there's a strong leaning towards Yeah,
maybe you know that's right. Yeah, you would be far from the first
dog man eyewitness to report experiencing something like that. Yeah, a lot of
very credible eyewitnesses, just like you, Cody, have reported that experience of
experience in mind speak from these guys. Don't know how they do it,
but apparently on some occasions they do, and that's a fact. And then
moving forward, it looks like Kate Smith is another comment. She's saying,
I think the government are experts, but they're not sharing. And that's a
good point. They probably are experts. They probably have these guys in cages
and all. I wouldn't put it past them to be creating these guys.
Not all dog men, in my opinion, are created in a test tube.
But I think with our technology now, some are all this talk about
having microchip dog men and all this, it might have some truth to it
if we are actually creating them in test tubes but again I want to make
sure I'm clear on this and saying that, Yeah, I don't think for
a second that all dog men were created by the government, because if they
were, that wouldn't explain all the encounters that date way back before we had
anything approaching the technology to do something like that. I think about eighteen eighty
seven in Wexford County, Michigan. It's the first documented dog man encounter,
and just imagine back then, we didn't have anything approaching the technology to make
a test to dog me in. So that's why I say that I kind
of can't help but laugh when I hear those kinds of theories, not to
discredit or make fun of everyone anyone, because it could it could very well
be, you know, but I think, to me, I've worked at
government jobs at every level from federal down to city, and I honestly just
don't think anybody in the government's competent enough to do anything like that. It
could be, you know, you never know, Yeah, you never do,
know, That's true. Good point. It looks like Earth Files UK
as the next question they want to know, So Cody is having contact with
dog men in another state where his first encounter took place. Yes, my
first encounter took place in my home state of Minnesota, and then the previous
the following ones with the same dog mang Golden Eyes all took place in Minnesota.
This one took place in Florida, where I live. Now, that
clears that up, and then it looks like blood. Vipa has a comment.
That comment is I'm not a believer, and all those scared never hell,
never hurt. And then I'm scrolling down looking for the next question.
It's funny. Kate Smith made a comment stating I know better. I never
want to see them ever, and that's smart. It is that is smart,
And then Raider wants to know did Golden Eyes stink? Also, I
don't remember him having a smell. Granted again, remember this was seventeen years
ago when I encountered him for the first time, and I was so young
and I was terrified in the moment that if there was, I probably didn't
notice. It was also the fact too, that when I encountered him one
on one, he was inside of our family storage barn, and that was
kind of a musty old barn, so it had its own smell in there,
so it may have masked it, or I just may not have remembered
it, or he may not have had one at all. I unfortunately can't
give a full answer on that one. I'm sorry. Yeah, barn definitely
will hide some smells. It'll mask them, that's for sure. The next
question is from SIG twelve twelve, and their question is or I guess it's
a comment combat changes your puridigm exactly like seeing a dog man, And that's
true, it will. Yeah, I've experienced both and I can attest to
that. Yeah, definitely. And again, like I told you, I'm
so sorry to hear that you suffered that traumatic brain injury, but thank you
so much for serving our country. I can't thank you enough. It looks
like Kate Smith has the next question, which is do dog men live as
long as a normal dog? Well, that's one of those questions here that
we don't have any way of knowing. Maybe if they asked government tac who
supervises this dog man or that dog man in the cage somewhere the government's got
them locked up, they could probably answer that for you. Maybe they couldn't.
I don't know. It depends on how long they've had them in captivity.
But yeah, I've got no way of answering that question for you.
Unfortunately, maybe we'll get lucky one day and one of those people that do
that will reach out to you, Vic and they'll get on the show and
they'll they'll regale us. All, yeah, that's gonna happen. Yeah,
if that does happen, that's when you need to go out and before you
get into your car truck check under it every time for a bomb or something.
But oh yeah, don't hold your breath on that. It looks like
Kate Smith is another comment. She says, because they share some traits of
dogs, perhaps they only live like fifteen or twenty years, And yeah,
that's possible. It's entirely possible. I think they live longer than that.
But who am I to say? It's really hard to say. And then
it looks like Raider has another comment he wants to share with you. He
says, could you I had gray aliens in my house around nineteen ninety seven,
and I do think that's what they are, alien And yeah, like
that could potentially tie back in. Somebody asked the question about the orbs,
and then I think it was Darren asked about about them being extraterrestrial, you
know, like, hey, you know, if you saw it yourself,
then that could lead to some credence to it. It could, it sure
could. Kate's got another comment. She says, I do think the dog
men are like humans, good and some are bad. And I agree.
I think she's right on that. I think just about every living creature is
going to be that way. You know, Yeah, that's normally how it
is. Name one creature where every last specimen is good. Doesn't happen,
No, it just doesn't. The next question is from Ian, and Ian's
question is if you had to have another one, what would be an ideal
dog me an encounter? Well, not to have one is the first thing
that comes to mind. But to answer your question for me, you know,
I guess the encounters I've had have been ideal, Like even this one
last week, Like I said, red Eyes, he didn't do anything to
me. He just scared me. And part of that's my own fault for
letting myself be so scared like that, you know, having known what I
a little bit of what I know, I guess if I were to have
the ideal encounter again, it would be to seeg olden eyes again, in
a friendly manner. You know, I haven't seen him super close up since
I was twelve when I first encountered Nimhn seventeen, he was in front of
my car. When I saw him last when I was twenty five, he
was out in a field and I was in an apartment across the street.
So I haven't seen him close up in a long time. I guess.
Again, that's not to say that I think that that's what we should be
doing. That's not to say that that's what I want. But if it
were to happen to have the ideal thing, I guess would beat him,
maybe see him again in a friendly way, and maybe see if the mind
speak thing is really you know, I have a conversation, but I'm not
holding my breath for any of that. Yeah, I don't see that ever
happening, So definitely, I don't hold your breath for it. And I've
got a comment here from Darren good Man. He says, thank you so
much for your service to our country and I love you all. Well,
thank you right back at you, definitely, And then I see a comment
from fiber Geek saying that he asked the question way back in the feed.
Well, I didn't see it. I apologize for that, so please type
it in all caps again so I don't miss that. And then moving on,
I've got a question from onnet Cute Cute z In Loney's question is Cody,
how did you feel when you touched golden eyes? And how did he
feel? Meaning his fur, blood color, et cetera. Yeah, that
was something else. You know, I don't think I really touched on that
last time on how it really was. You know, the fur his fur
color was that coyote and timberwolf coloring, that that light gray mixed in with
the brown and the blacks and the whites and that kind of stuff. And
his blood was red when I saw it, you know, I could see
it coming out of his arm. There was some dripping onto the floor when
I helped him clean it up. When I touched him, he felt firm,
you know, his his forearm, his front left forearm was where he
washed and on his how do I describe this? From his head down to
his shoulders, he was pretty fur covered, and then once it started to
get down to his torso and onto his forearms, the fur tapered pretty good.
Known his his fore arms are pretty bare from fur, and he was
firm when I felt him. You know, he wasn't a big, jacked
out bodybuilder like he became when he was an adult. But even when he
had a young age like that, he still had a pretty good looking muscular
build to him at that at that young age, it was kind of similar
to mine when I was twelve years old. Not to say that I was
built or anything as a twelve year old, but I was in good shape,
you know, for the age. But his arm felt firm, and
it wasn't you know, the back, the backside, the side with fur
on. It felt like just soft fur like you'd expect to feel on a
on a fluffy coyote if you ever felt one. You know, I've got
a coyote pelt at home on the wall, and it's it's soft. So
that's what his fur felt like, for sure. But his skin it almost
felt just like regular skin, like the human's, you know. But his
his arm was firm, he had some he had some muscle to him,
even as a little guy. I can only at warm. He felt warm,
for sure, you know, like a warm blooded creature does. I
can only imagine what it must have been like to actually touch dog me,
and that's that is just amazing. It must be. I've got a comment
from k from sixteen seventy five. Their comment is kodeyat suggest checking to see
if there are any old slash new articles regarding dog men in your area.
That is a really good idea, and I should do that because I've actually
seen some stuff like that with bigfoot sightings in this area, So I should
check to see if there's anything dog man related. Yeah, it just might
be. Michelle's got the next question, which is I've considered that perhaps if
one of the dog men know you, they all do the mind speak makes
me feel like that's possible. What are your thoughts? Yeah, maybe I
don't think there's there's probably not a hive mind or anything, you know,
like in insects, but there there could be a chance with that. I
think somebody had kind of asked something similar earlier, you know, and it
could very well be they they somehow know. There's just no way we're ever
going to know. I think at this point it's because we were teetering on
that line of are they are they physical creatures? Are they spiritual? Supernatural?
Whatever you want to call it, And it could very well be it's
just another one of those things that we don't know. I'm I'm sorry I
can't answer your question, but that's just how I feel about it. You
know, had it to the list of questions we're probably never going to know
the answers to. Unfortunately, it's so fun to ask, so oh sure,
yeah, it definitely is. And I'm seeing other questions or comments about
people ask questions I didn't address. Yeah, if you ask a question way
back that I haven't asked, then yeah, please just be sure to type
it in all caps again so that I'll catch it this time. I apologize
for missing any And then I've got another question for you from g Black Sheep,
and their question is did you feel hypnotized at all? The closest I
would feel to being hypnotized, I think, is when I would encounter goolden
eyes. I had mentioned, you know, looking into his eyes made me
freeze largely, I think because I didn't know what I was looking at,
and that's maybe the fight or flight respond like a deer freezes in headlights,
you know, you see something like that. That's the closest I think I've
ever been to something like that. I don't think full on hypnotized, but
seeing his eyes and freezing, not knowing what to do, you know,
taken aback both by the beauty he had the most beautiful golden eyes he did,
and then just the what my looking at the shot? You know,
but I don't think straight up hypnotized. Yeah, I'm sure it felt like
a bolt of electricity went through. Yeah. Every time you see these guys,
it probably feels that way. It looks like raiders. Got The next
question, and that question is how big length wise was golden eyes? You
might have said it, but I missed it. I'm guessing he was probably
seven feet tall at the largest when I saw him. The only way I
have to gauge off of that is when I encountered him when I was seventeen
years old. The second time, I was driving my car home at night
and he ran in front of my car when I was stopped, and he
was standing straight up in front of me, and I had really, I
really had no other way to gauge how tall he would have been. I'm
just guessing that he was probably about seven feet at that time when he was
when he was young, when I first encountered him, I guess he was
about four feet tall. And the way that I gauged that was because when
I first saw him, he was leaning up against a gate up by the
house, and that gate, I remember, was five feet tall. And
I know that because when I was twelve years old, I was five feet
tall, and when he was leaning up against that gate, he looked like
he had about a foot underneath of it. So I think when he was
young, he was probably about four feet and then when I counted him again,
he was probably about seven feet. And then the third time, I
really have no way of knowing, because I saw him out in an open
field from the balcony of my apartment. Hey do seem to grow pretty quickly,
so that does fit. It looks like g Black Sheep's got another question
for you. They want to know if you experienced any psychic vision or anything.
The closest thing would be is I think, is those dreams that I've
had. If people don't know or didn't hear the previous episode, I started
having those kind of weird dreams when I first moved down here to Florida.
I moved down here at the end of twenty twenty one, and the last
time I saw Goldeneyes was in the summer of twenty twenty, but after I
moved down here, I started I get these dreams very very infrequently, and
it'll be just me and him in kind of a white space, and sometimes
we'll talk to each other in this dream, Like the first time I ever
had this dream, he looked at me and his mouth doesn't move when he
talks like this, so this might lead a little more into the mind speak
thing. But the first thing he ever said to me in this dream was
where are you? And then I immediately woke up. And then anytime I've
had it after, I've asked him questions and he'll sometimes respond, mostly by
just like giving a nod or a shake of the head. He hasn't really
talked much otherwise. But again, these may just be dreams. We really
don't have any way of knowing, especially with my brain injuries. There's a
good chance that is just dreams, but it might not be. There might
be some more communication in the future. And I'm really sorry to the people
that listen last time and wanted an update. There unfortunately is no update.
I haven't had any more like that recently. Well, like I said before,
I hope your days of having encounters are behind you, but I mean,
getting this gracious last Saturday, you just had one, So who's to
say? It's hard to know. Kate Smith left a comment which states I
think they should leave us alone and vice versa, and that would be nice,
That would be really nice. I agree. There's oh, what is
it? There's a there's a quote that sums it up perfectly when I think
of that. It's from the Lost World Jurassic part of the second movie.
At the end of the movie, John happens doing the press conference, and
what does he say. He says, these creatures require our absence, not
our presence, to survive. And I think that absolutely. That hits the
nail on the head for me when I hear that. You know, I
think the same way with the dog men. They don't need us and we
certainly don't need them. I think we should just leave well enough alone.
That's great advice, really good advice. I've got another question for you from
Michigan meat eater, and his question is how big were golden eyed hands Comparing
that to a human of similar size. They were certainly bigger. I'll say
that is they were elongated and the fingers were much longer than you'd find on
a person. And I mean he was just big in general. You know,
he's a big boy. He had I remember he had claws on his
hands too, like not the dog claws you would expect. I've heard other
people kind of compare it to like raccoon hands and raccoon claws maybe a little
bit like that. But they were they did. They were big. I
don't really even know how to compare them. They were just certainly bigger and
longer than a human's hands would be. They definitely do have disportionately large hands,
being as big as they can be. If you imagine hands that are
too big or look too big to fit a body of that big size,
that's going to kind of give you an idea they could. A big one
could put his hand on top of a trash can lid and the thumb would
be on one edge, and then the fingers, the tips of its other
fingers would be on the other edge. Think about that a trash can sized
talking about like a metal trash can. That is a trash can lid sized
hand. That's a big hand, not talking about the talons or anything.
That's just the fingers. That's how big their hands can get yep, huge,
really big. It looks like truth. Iris wants to know if you
had any paranormal or ghosting counters. I want to tentively say yes. I
was stationed in Okinawa, Japan for three and a half years, and Okinawa
is largely considered to be haunted because of the atrocities that happened there in World
War two. And there were some weird things that I saw. There was
some weird things that other people that I was there with also said they saw,
probably the scariest one that I can think of off the top of my
head. I'll share this story just real quick. I was in my barracks
room late at night one night, I was in my in my bed.
I didn't have a room mate because I was I was a non commissioned officer,
so I rated my own room in the marracks. But I turned over
in my bed. Why do all these stories always they always start with me
not being able to sleep in bed and I turn over and I see something
good. Point, because that's when I first saw golden ice too. But
I turned over in my bed and in the corner I saw what looked like
this strange, tall floating black like mist in the corner, and then above
it, floating above that was like a circle, a white circle of mist.
And I remember flicking on my lamp next to my bed and went away,
and I thought, oh, my mind just playing tricks on me,
and I turned off the and then it was there again. So needless to
say, I slept with the lights on that night. But yeah, I
saw some kind of strange things like that when I was overseas, and a
lot of the other people I was over there with said they saw similar things
as well. That's something I never really thought about. When you consider how
many people died there, I guess it would be it would make sense that
it would be so haunted. So a super common thing is hearing voices,
mainly in Japanese. You know, some people reported hearing like little girls laughing,
or somebody talking like frantically in the language they just didn't understand, you
know. Or they're hearing footsteps in the barracks at night. Lots of stuff
like that. So well, that's awfully creepy. I've got another question for
you from Captain Solo, and their question is do they know who God is?
I have no way of knowing that for myself, but I certainly do
good Man good Way to answer that too. And then Mike wants everyone to
know that he had an encounter with a dog man in Delaware and its legs
were like a kangaroo. Ever heard of that. I have heard of somebody
describe them like kangaroo legs before. I guess. I guess you mean like
they kind of bend weird and they're they're really super long. That's what comes
to mind. I think that's what he was asking about him. Yeah,
yeah, I have heard other people other encounters describe it like that before.
I'm pretty sure that's what he wanted to know. Looks like Jason B has
a question for you, and that question is and this is a question that
it's a take it or leave a question. There's no pressure to answer this
or any other questions that I throw at you, but I'll put it out
there for you to decide. His question is are your parents Christian? Yes?
They are. Yeah, I was raised in a Christian household. Yeah,
it's actually my mom is really the one who. My mom was the
most about person I'd ever known. She passed away when I was eighteen years
old in training for boot camp but she was the most devout person I ever
knew, and it was largely because of her that I was brought to the
faith myself. And even now my stepmom my dad has since remarried. She
is a very good Christian woman as well, So that's great. Looks like
Janee Qtec wants to make sure that you know that she's thanking you for answering
her question. And then also she said, amazing, once in a lifetime
experience. Some people might not say amazing, they might describe it a different
way, but yes, for most people, for most eye witnesses, it
is a once in a lifetime experience. Thank Goodness for that too, Definitely
goodness. Harvest Mary Moon wants to know do dog mean attack people and what
do they eat? I'm going to answer that question for you, Harvest Mary
Moon by saying, over the years I've been doing this, since two thousand
and seven, I have spoken with thousands upon thousands of dogmen eyewitnesses. Think
about that number and the grand total of credible eyewitnesses who've ever told me about
being harmed. Intentionally harmed by a dog man is a whopping? Are you
braced and ready for it? Six or seven? Maybe might be eight.
But when on one side you weigh that big number, the pull of thousands
upon thousands, with how many have actually been intentionally harmed six, seven,
maybe eight, that should tell you everything about the mindset of these guys.
Again, I'm never going to say that dog men are safe to be around,
because yeah, I mean, you name the critter out there that doesn't
have any deviant examples. They're dangerous camels or horses or pigs or goats that
will kill you if they get the opportunity to do that, and if they
have the ability, if they're big enough to do that. But why should
dogmen be any different. Yes, you are going to have dangerous assuatch dangerous
dog men, But when you look at the big picture, you're talking about
a guy here who's spoken with thousands upon thousands of eyewitnesses. So many of
those have been in very compromising circumstances, situations where the dog men that they
encountered, if that dog man wanted to wipe them off the face of the
earth, it could have done that easily. But yet they're allowed to leave
the encounter without a single scratch. So that right there tells me that no,
I have not spoken with every dog man eyewitness out there. No,
I never have claimed to. But when you look at that number, the
sample size that I've dealt with over the years, and can honestly say that
only six seven, maybe eight credible eyewitnesses so I've spoken with have ever reported
being harmed. That right there does tell me definitively these guys are not wired
to rip you apart on site the way so many people out here are trying
to portray them as having that mindset. If that was the case, then
the numbers I've been seeing again, thousands upon thousands over here on one side
the pool sample size, and then on this side over here, how many
have been attacked? Six seven, maybe eight out of that pool of people
that I've spoken with. So that's why I say on so many shows that
these guys clearly are not wired to rip you apart on site. It seems
like they're mo is just to try and get a rise out of you.
Unfortunately, well that's a lot better than them trying to rip you apart.
But it's unfortunate that they can ruin so many lives by just trying to terrorize
people the way they do. It's really unfortunate. All right moving forward,
it looks like Kate Smith is another comment she's saying. I think if they're
hungry enough, they'll lead anything. But that's the thing, though, Key,
these guys don't have any trouble feeding themselves. If you think mountain lions
have earned the moniker, have earned the nickname, I should say deer killing
machines. These guys make mountain lions look like rank amateurs when it comes to
hunting deer. They do not have any trouble feeding themselves. They're so much
faster than deer. I mean, there's so much more powerful than mountain lions.
They have weaponry that just goes so far and beyond what anything out there
can match. They do not have trouble feeding themselves. I think that's one
of the biggest reasons why they like to torment people so much. They spend
so little time out of their day feeding themselves. That leaves them with so
much time left over. They've got to do something with all that time.
As intelligent as they are, I can only imagine how bored they get,
so I think to pass the time, that's a reason behind a lot of
these encounters. They're just messing with people to kind of entertain themselves in my
opinion. Again, I could be totally wrong on that, but that's just
why I think they do it so often. And then it looks like Kate
does have a question, and that question is I wonder if dogmen mate for
life or are the horn dogs? Well, yes, again, that's another
question that I don't think we're ever going to know the answer to, and
thank goodness for that. Yeah, definitely. And then it looks like fiber
Geek has a comment, and that comment is I've heard the white slash gray
space in your dreams are the fifth dimension slash density? Well, yeah,
that might be no idea, though we're probably never going to know the answer
to that either. Ranting Greek gamer wants to know Cody was Golden Eyes,
a tall creature and was the hostile Initially. Initially he was not tall.
No, I gauged he was about four feet tall. As an adult,
I gaged he's probably about seven feet tall. And when I first met him
face to face, he definitely, you know, he buried his teeth and
he growled at me because he was sitting in the corner licking his wounds,
and his fur all puffed up. His tail got all puffy. He didn't
really exhibit any hostility beyond that. And then once I you know, if
you remember the story, I gave him a couple of rolls of summer sausage
from my dad's fridge that was in the barn there, and after that,
you know, he stopped growling, but he still kept his eyes on me,
like I'm watching you. Don't do anything stupid, you know. So
that that made me pretty fearful, even when I went to try and help
him clean him up, you know, because he started to growl a little
bit again when I went towards him, but I was able to keep him
calm and show him I'm not doing anything. I'm not going to hurt you.
And then after helping him out, you know, there was no more
growling. There was none of that, So no hostility after that. The
most extensiveness of him being hostile was just the growling to show like, hey,
don't do anything, you know, and I didn't. So the fact
that you were nervous, that you were on edge, that shows you have
common sense. If you're that close to a dog and then you're not on
edge, something isn't right. All right, I've got a question for you
from g Black Sheep, and their question is could it have been a bigfoot
with a wolf fur over its head? Maybe a shaman class. I don't
really know much about sasquash. You might, you definitely have more knowledge on
that than I do, Vic, but I don't think he was. I
think he was definitely, after all these years, after hearing all these things,
I think he was one dog man. He didn't he looked like when
he was young, he looked like a coyote that stood on his hind legs
from time to time. You know. When he was an adult, he
looked like a big wolf with a humanoid body. I don't think he was
a bigfoot. I think he was a dog man. Yeah, if it
was a bigfoot, even with some kind of a fur cloak over it,
wolf skin or something like that, you would know it. You wouldn't mistake
it for a bonafide dog man. So it would have to be a huge
wolf cloak too. Plus he had a tail. I've never heard of a
sasquash story having a tail. No, But even if it was a wolf
for a wolf hide and it had the tail attached, a sasquatch isn't going
to be able to wrap that around itself and make you think it's a bonafide
dog man. So oh, sure you saw what you saw and that's all
there is to it. Because I touched him, you know he was.
There was nothing loose about him, so he didn't have anything one. Oh,
definitely. And it looks like I've got another question from Clay not Nalou,
and their question is I'm interested if Type three dog men are able to
walk on all fours where they see it on all fours. I don't know
of any encounters where eyewitnesses have reported seeing them walking on all fours. They
do have hominid style legs instead of digit great style legs, So I guess
it's still possible. Since sasquatch can walk quad repeatedly, why shouldn't these guys
be able to? But I don't know that for sure. I'm not going
to guess. All I can do is just tell you that over all the
Type three eyewitnesses I've spoken with, I don't think I've ever been told about
seeing one about them ever seeing one walking on all fours. So that's a
good question, really good question. And then blood Vipa is saying, asked
three times now vick Ivin. He's laughing while I apologize. I still haven't
seen your question, and I'm going question by question that's in bold type,
so I don't know what's going on, but I haven't seen your question.
And then it looks like Michigan mediator wants to know how high did it jump
to get onto your roof? Ah, that's a good question. You know,
I live in a If anybody that's listening lives in Florida, you know
exactly what I mean when I say I have just a small, single story.
You know, blockhouse is stuck online. It's not a big house,
it's not tall, it's just a single story. I would guess maybe ten
or eleven feet that's my estimate, which is a good jump for it to
get all of its body up there. That's an impressive jump, especially when
it's as heavy as it is. But yeah, these guys can jump like
it's going out of style. So that's pretty typical. Mona Gregory wants to
know, and this is more of a general question. Have you seen dog
men travel in a group? My husband saw three of them here in Alaska.
And to answer that, credible eyewitnesses have reported seeing groups of dog men.
But I think that's definitely the exception and not the rule. And I'll
tell you why wolves operate in numbers out of necessity to dispatch the prey they
go after, it's going to require either the power that the wolf pack brings
or their ability to run relays and tire the game because the game is too
fast for just one wolf to dispatch. But with dog men, they can
catch anything they want to catch because they have the speed outrun anything they're going
to try and pretty upond. And then also they have the power to take
down anything by themselves that they're going to try to take down, even bison.
So when you look at that, coupled with the fact that a mature
dog man's daily CLOrk requirements must be ridiculous as big as they are, So
if that's a case, it wouldn't make sense them being obplicate carnivores. On
top of that, for them to operate and hang around in numbers, they
would deplete the resources in any particular area almost overnight if they did hang out
in numbers instead of a loan. So that's why, in my opinion,
it just makes total sense that if they do come together, it's on very
rare occasions. Well, having said that, it's about time for us to
get out of here, Cody, But before we do, do you have
any closing comments you like to put up there for us. I just want
to say thank you again to everybody for the support you've given me, both
from the previous time I was on in this time, and I really hope
that we all are able to remember Vick's words should we encounter something like this,
Should anyone out there encounter something like this again, that you know they're
not They don't seem to be high wired to hurt kill people, you know,
you know, just remember that it's a it's all for show. They're
just trying to scare you, get their fun out of you. And please
don't take the measures that I did at first this last week. Please try
to try to get some help if you can, and make sure that you
deal with it in a healthy way. That's all very well said, And
like I told you at the end of that conversation Tuesday, I'll tell you
again if you ever need help, If you have any other encounters, for
example, and need help dealing with them, I'm not going anywhere just like
you did before. Please let me know because you're never going to be alone
in this And for everyone out there listening, thank you so much for helping
eyewitnesses the what you do. I mean, this is a perfect example.
You listen to Cody talk about how much your support helped him, Well,
this is just a repeating thing. If you only knew how many eyewitnesses have
told me how much your support has helped them. I can't thank you enough
for doing that, for listening to the show, for supporting these eyewitnesses.
Again, I can't thank you enough. And if you've had an encounter with
a dog mean that you would like to talk with me about there's no requirement
ever to come on the show and share it publicly. Then yeah, by
all means, just go to Dogmancounters dot com and submit a report and I'll
be more than happy to schedule a good long phone conversation with you. If
you have had an encounter and you would like to also come on the show
and put it out there for all the listeners as well, we can definitely
do that too, But that's totally up to you if we take it to
that step or not. But having said that, Cody, thanks again so
much for coming on and sharing this latest experience with US, I really appreciate
it, appreciate you Vic. Thanks for having me again. Well you know
you're welcome. Thanks again for your time and have a great night.