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At Hey, everyone, thanks so
much for joining us for another livestream episode

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of Dogman Encounters. I really appreciate
you joining us for tonight's show. We're

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gonna welcome back a guest. You
came on episode four ninety seven and told

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us about what were, for the
most part, positive encounters he had with

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a particular dogmian that he helped when
he was a kid. As you'll remember,

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code An episode four ninety seven,
came on and told us about this

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juvenile dogmian that he met when he
was a kid. He found out that

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it was injured and he actually tried
to help it. Well, he had

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other encounters with that dog Men dog
man years later, and everything just turned

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out to be positive. Well,
when we left him towards the end of

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that episode, episode four ninety seven, there was a lot of sentiment hoping

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that he would have another experience with
one of these guys down the road,

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most notably that particular dog Men.
Well, unfortunately, he contacted me earlier

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this week to let me know that
last Saturday he had another encounter. It

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wasn't with that dog man, it
was with a different one and well,

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things didn't go very well unfortunately,
So without wasting any more time. Let's

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bring Cody in here now. Cody, thanks so much for coming back.

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Hey, big thanks for having me. Yeah, I want to first and

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foremost say to everybody that last time
said that they think I've got an encounter

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again in future. I got words
for you, Yeah, big words.

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Things definitely didn't go the way we
had hoped. No, and thank you

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for everybody that did listen and last
time. You know, it was just

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shy of a month now and looking
back and on the video again and seeing

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all your comments and everything. Thank
you all so much, everybody. You've

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all been very supportive, very good
to me. But yeah, you know,

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despite what we had all hoped,
I guessed from last time and based

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off of here and everything, it
was a very different experience this time.

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It was definitely not the little guy
that I had found before, that's for

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sure. Yeah, no doubt about
that. It was quite different. I'll

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tell you what though, Coldie.
For the people who've missed episode four ninety

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seven, please tell them about yourself. Yeah, I'll give a little recap.

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So again, my name's Cody.
I'm from Minnesota. I currently live

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in Florida. When I had these
encounters as a child. I was twelve

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years old is when I first found
the young dog man. I found him

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injured in my family storage barn on
our hobby farm, excuse me, and

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I helped to patch up his wounds
and clean up his blood, you know.

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And then I had encountered him a
couple more times over the years as

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I got older, and he made
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So we met up again when we
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I went on to serve in the
military after high school and I was

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wounded overseas and when I came home, I had encountered him again and he

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kind of helped me to get the
help I needed at that time. So

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that was, you know, a
positive thing to look back onto. It's

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definitely not the kind of experience that
many people have, so thinking about it,

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you know, I'm very grateful that
things weren't the way they did.

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I'm so glad they went the way
they did. Also, Yeah, when

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you think about dog me and encounters
only you don't attach any positive spins to

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them. You think they're all going
to be negative, but you're living proof

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that sometimes they can be positive,
and thank goodness for that. Yeah,

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absolutely, it's a little bit of
a different story this time, but you

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get what you get. Yes,
it is, And I know, I

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know people were probably hoping for an
update on anything with him. You know,

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I forgot to I already forgot to
mention. I'm already forgetten you know.

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I I had mentioned that I had
the dreams about him since I moved

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down here to Florida, and I
haven't had any, uh since the last

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time I was on the show,
unfortunately, So no no updates there with

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that. But and again we don't
we don't know if it's just dreams or

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if it's if there's actually something there
or not. But I just wanted to

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let folks I know some people were
wanting to know. But unfortunately, nothing

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new with that. So you've we've
had dreams about the bad dog Man,

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but yeah, unfortunate, like you
said, not the good one, right.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's funny how
that works, isn't it. Well,

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at first glance, it might be, but no, it really makes

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sense that last encounter, the most
recent one that happened last Saturday night.

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Yeah, that is going to leave
you thinking about it and cost some nightmares.

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So I actually get it. You
said that you knew about the big

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following, all the listeners rooting for
you and supporting you when you came across

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the comments. But how long have
you known about all the supports you've been

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getting from coming on episode four ninety
seven? I'm sorry you said before,

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No, how long have you known
about all the supports you've been getting from

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the listeners on episode four ninety seven
when you came on and did that.

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Oh well, right after we did
that recording, you know, I went

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and I looked on the life I've
stream and I could see people commenting and

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already and I was able to look
back and actually read the chat that happened

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while we were talking, and that's
when I first saw it, you know,

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and that was that was a great
feeling right away. And then just

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seeing that number has grown over time. So that's it's since since we did

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the episode, you know, is
I knew right away, But so I

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guess for about a month now,
you know. But it's it's still great

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to see. Time does fly.
It doesn't seem like it's been that long,

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but yeah, I guess you're right. I guess it has been just

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about a month. You know.
One thing I forgot to ask you last

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time around, codeven, I should
have asked you is whether or not you're

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actually hoping to have another encounter with
that good dog men were you? You

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know, I'm I think I mentioned
it. I'm probably never going to actively

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seek him out. I know a
lot of people were saying in the comments,

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you know, you should go home, you should go camping seep shows

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up. I don't think I'm ever
going to do that because I still don't

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believe that we should probably really be
actively seeking these creatures out. I think

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they're better left alone. They definitely
don't need us for anything, really.

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But if I ever do see them
again, I'll take it for what it

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is when it comes, you know, I think it will definitely be a

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nicer experience than this one I had
last weekend. But if I see him,

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I see him great. If I
don't, you know, I'll always

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have the memories. Well, that's
a good way to look at it.

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Yeah, you never know, an
encounter with even that dog man might not

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go all that well because of whatever
variable. So I guess why push your

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luck? So that makes sense to
look at it that way. When you

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contacted me earlier this week, Code, you're in a really bad way without

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telling us about the details of this
latest encounter. What can you tell us

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about how this most recent one affected
you? Oh gosh, well, well

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it was not good. It was
pretty bad on my end, you know.

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I after I had seen it,
I tried to tell some people about

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it and didn't go great, and
I started I just was so frantic.

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I couldn't relax. I started drinking
to try and calm myself down. That

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didn't do nothing. You know.
When I finally Monday morning, once they

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reopened, I called the VA and
I said, hey, I need to

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come in. I need to see
about getting a refill on some of those

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old uh anti anxiety meds I used
to be on, you know, so

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they started me back on those.
But oh gosh, I remember when I

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called Vic on Tuesday. I finally
texted in Tuesday morning. I said,

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hey, I saw another one that
didn't go well. And he called me

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and he said, how you doing? And I said, well, the

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meds haven't kicked in yet, so
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I said, well you laugh,
but I'm only half joking. He goes,

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oh, really, I think I
think almost you were even expecting it

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to be something a little a little
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But I was, oh gosh,
I was I was panicking. I was

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cursing, just relaying it all back
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good state at all. Yeah,
Like I said, I could tell you're

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definitely in a bad way. I
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I heard back from you, it
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with that same dog man and another
quote unquote good encounter. But yeah,

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when you told me you had a
bad encounter and I could tell you're having

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so much trouble, I thought,
what in the world, what's going on?

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What happened? So yeah, I
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out what was wrong and what happened. But speaking of that, all right,

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Cody, please tell us about this
most recent encounter. Now, give

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us every last detail that comes to
mind, all right. So it kind

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of started last week last Friday with
the last live stream with Mike and Paul.

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A great episode. Thank to you
to you both. You're listening.

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That was a great episode. And
I remember it had come up somebody was

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saying, and I think Mike talked
about it too, like you can conjure

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these dog men or something like that, you know, by by speaking about

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them, and that's that can't necessarily
be true, you know, because if

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that were the case, VIC would
be seeing dog men every hour every day

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all that stuff, and similar people, similar things like that, you know.

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And I just thought that was kind
of interesting and it kind of stayed

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in my mind, and I'm like, yeah, that probably don't seem right.

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Well, we go to the next
day, Saturday night. It was

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probably around eleven eleven thirty at night, and I was taking my dogs outside

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for the last time of the night. And I have I have two small

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Chihuahua mixes and a small uh quenty
a Mexican hair list, and the jolo

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in. One of the little chihuahuas
had gone out, but the third one

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didn't want to go outside, and
I thought that was really unusual because she's

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kind of the alpha of the pack
and she had her ears down, she

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had her tail between her legs,
and she was shaken, and she never

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gets like that, you know.
She's got a bit of a Napoleon complex

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to her, and she didn't want
to go outside, and I'm like,

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what's going on here, girl,
Let's go. So I picked her up

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and I carried her out back.
Now, when you go out to my

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backyard of my house, I've got
a screened in porch that sticks out a

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bit off the back, and the
only light that I have back there is

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one single little light right by the
sliding glass door there, and it doesn't

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really penetrate the screen porch too well, so it's not super light when you

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actually get off the porch. But
I took her out there. I carried

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her out and I set her down
in the grass, and she's still kind

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of just shaking and staying at my
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I think, what are you doing, girl? Well, I'm out there

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for a little bit. And then
I hear this really weird, off sounding

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bark come in the distance from behind
my house. Now, there's two other

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houses behind my house. I live
in town, you know, I live

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in a neighborhood. I'm not in
the country anymore, unfortunately. But I

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hear this bark. And we hear
barks all the time because just about everybody

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in our neighborhood has dogs too.
But this bark sounded really weird. It

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sounded really off, really low,
and it almost sounded like someone was like

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when it started, it was a
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I don't even know how to describe. I guess I made the noise.

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I don't know how to describe it. But I heard that. I thought

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that's weird. And then I was
hit with this really odd smell. It

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kind of smelled like a mix of
wet dog and like rotten fish. And

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then I start to hear like crunching
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I've got a six foot tall privacy
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I've got a decent sized backyard,
and I'm just looking down at my dog

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all the time. I'm just listening
to this and smelling the stuff, not

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paying too much attention, but obviously
thinking, like especially at that weird bark

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and the smell are weird. And
then the crunching, I figure, maybe

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it's just squirrels or something. We
got some crazy squirrels around my yard in

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the trees. And my dog is
still down there shaking, And then I

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hear a low pitched growl and my
heart stops and I freeze, and I

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think I know that sound. I've
heard that sound before. I heard that

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sound when I was twelve years old, and I encountered that little juvenile dog

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man. So I slowly look up
from my dog up to the fence,

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and I can see the outline of
a very tall dog man standing on the

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other side of my fence. Now
mind you that again, that light from

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the porch didn't get off the porch
too well, so I couldn't make out

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the full thing, like in great
detail, but I could still tell what

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I was seeing. And you know, his head was probably about two or

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three feet above this six foot fence, and he's looking right at me,

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and he's got red glowing eyes.
And I'm starting to panic internally because I

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thought, oh, crap, oh
crap, oh crap, And obviously I

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said something much worse than crap,
but I thought, this is the nightmare

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scenario. This is one with red
eyes and they're glowing. You know,

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if you caught the last episode I
was in, I kinda I kind of

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elaborated on what my thoughts might be
a little bit if it if they were

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the dog men with the red eyes, And I'll get into that in a

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little bit here, but just to
describe what I could see, you know,

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the red glowing eyes and his head, it kind of had the shape

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of the the what's it called the
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That's what I could kind of make
out what the shape of his head looked

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like. And he was tall,
obviously because he was over top of the

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fence. But he was thin and
gangly, you know. He wasn't He

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didn't look like super jacked and buffed
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was as an adult. He's really
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he was angy, you know.
His hair looked kind of patchy and messed

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up, and it was black.
It was dark black from what I could

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tell. And he had the ears
pointed up and he was growling, so

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I could kind of see he had
his teeth showing a little bit, not

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too well that I could see from
that, but he's just standing there staring

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at me with those glowing eyes,
growling a little bit. And I'm like,

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Okay, what do I do?
What do I do? What do

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I do? Panicking in my head
again to me, this is the nightmare,

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Samario, this is one with red
eyes. And I did the only

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thing I could think to do was
to bend down, keeping my eyes on

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this thing, picked up my dog
and then make my way back into the

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porch and back inside. I got
back inside, I turned off the lights,

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I locked the door, and I
closed the uh the curtain, and

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I went into the bedroom and I
found my partner in there and I said,

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hey, you got to look out
the window. You got to see

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this. He goes, what I
said, there's something outside. I can't

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describe it. You got to see. So we look out the window and

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there's nothing there. And I thought
that can't be right. I even flicked

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on the light and there's nothing there. And he said, what, what's

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the problem. I said, I
don't know how to describe it, but

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there I think there was something there
watching And he said, do you think

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as the person? I said no, I don't know what it was.

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I couldn't say it in the moment. And he's like, well, it

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must be nothing. You must be
just seeing things. So go to bed

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not too long after, and I'm
just shaking. I can't sleep, absolutely

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shaking by this thing again to me, just the absolute night er scenario,

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see in this thing. And so
we're in bed and it's quiet and dark

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in the room, and I start
to hear not too long after, scratching

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sounds behind me on the wall.
The headboard of my bed is against the

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outside wall, and I start to
hear these scratches along the wall, and

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I thought, no, no,
no, please, no, he's outside.

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Oh no, And the scratches go
on for a little bit and then

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they stop, and then I hear
a loud thump right above me, and

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like he jumped on the roof.
Crap, he's on the roof. And

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somehow I'm the only one hearing any
of this. You know, my partner's

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sleeping next to me. We got
the two small shouaas in the bed under

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the covers. They're not reacting.
And my Jolo's got her own bed on

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the floor next to the bed,
and she's not wracking. Like, am

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I really the only one hearing this? Like how I know I'm a light

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sleeper usually as it is, but
you know, I couldn't sleep at on

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everybody's sleeping through this. And I
hear, you know, the footsteps,

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just one at a time, slowly, some thump on the roof above me,

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and the thumps kind of start to
slowly go towards inward to the bedroom,

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and then I start to hear them
towards the kitchen and then after a

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little bit it stops and then it's
just quiet. It's all gone, and

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I'm thinking, what in the world, There's no way that this all happened

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again again, and it's a different
one this time. I thought I'd never

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if I ever experienced another one again, I would figure that, you know,

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it would be the one that I
saw before. But of course,

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now I'm in Florida. And when
I saw him before, it was all

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in Minnesota, and I figured,
I'm not going to see him down here,

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but here I am seeing an entirely
different one, and it's one with

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the red eyes. It's the nightmare
scenario for me. So anyways, so

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that's how it ended. And so
I go outside the next morning to check

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to look around to check for evidence, and I I look at the wall

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outside, and there's no scratches on
the wall outside, and so I kind

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of thought, well, maybe then
he wasn't actually scratching. Maybe he was

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just running his hands across it,
you know, because it doesn't look like

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it was scratched up, didn't look
like any damage to the roof. And

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when he was standing behind the fence, he didn't put his hands up on

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the fence or anything. I never
saw his hands. He just kind of

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stood there behind it. But he
would have been standing in my neighbor's yard

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who lives behind me, and they've
got a little like five foot tall chain

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link fence that goes around their property
and then my fences against theirs, and

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so obviously I couldn't, you know, just walk into the yard and check

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the fence or anything. But I
couldn't just from looking from the road,

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I couldn't see any any signs of
hair or anything broken or anything. So

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I'm thinking, did I even witness
this thing? Did I see it?

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You know? Because I've got like
I, like I described in the last

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episode, and I touched on a
little bit here. I've got a injury

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from my time in the military.
I got messed up pretty bad in an

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ied last So sometimes I wonder,
you know, like, did I see

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that? Am I just imagining this
thing? Regardless of if I believe I

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saw it or not. At this
point, I'm still super shaking up about

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it. And like I said,
a little bit, I touched on it

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a little bit. I'm I started
drinking every day to kind of try and

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take the edge off, just because
I'm on edge all the time. I

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started getting really irritable again, and
nothing's helping, you know. I tried,

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like I said, I tried telling
my partner about it. He didn't

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believe me, just there's nothing out
there. And I tried telling my next

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door neighbor's she and her husband are
my best friends down here, and I

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talked to her, I said,
have you noticed anything weird around here lately?

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Because we helped look out with each
other because the crime in this town

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has started to kind of go up
recently, so we keep in touch with

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each other about that. We'll let
each other know if we caught anything in

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our security cameras everything like that,
you know. And of course I don't

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have any security cameras in the backyard, so if I had seen, if

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I were to see anything, I
didn't naturally, I only have them in

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the front yard. And then when
I did teck the cameras, there was

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nothing on them in the front yard. But she says, no, what

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do you mean, what do you
mean seeing anything? And I said,

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well, I described to her the
sounds I heard the night before and that

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weird smell, and I said,
I I thought I saw like some glowing

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red lights up by the fence.
I didn't say it was red eyes or

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anything, but I said, I
thought I saw some red lights up above

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the fence, and she goes,
no, I didn't. What do you

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think that could be? I said, well, you know, I do

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kind of hear these stories sometimes about
these potentially supernatural things, you know,

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And then she just she just gives
me a little punch on the shoulder.

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You go, oh, you're just
messing with me. You didn't, You're

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just playing. So I'm thinking,
once again, okay, great, well

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here we are again. I can't
tell anybody again about this stuff. So

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just having a super hard time with
it at those points. So Monday morning

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finally comes along, and I think
I said it before a little bit too.

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I called the VA. I said, hey, can I come in.

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I want to see about getting on
some of these medications that I used

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to be on. I haven't been
on any meds for probably about a year

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a year and a half now.
I've been doing pretty good without him.

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But I went in and they were
able to refill it because I was on

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him before. So Tuesday morning I
went in and I got him, and

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then that's when I decided I should
tell Vic. So I texted Vic and

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let him know. And then you
know, we had our phone call and

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I was frantic and panicking, and
just as I recalled the thing, and

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I was just terrified having to talk
about it again, just reliving that incident,

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seeing this nightmare creature. But yeah, that's the gist of the encounter

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this time. I've got a bit
to say about it, for sure,

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but I wanted to make sure that
I got that the whole encounter described out

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this time before I get into any
of that. You know, I felt

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so bad for you when you started
telling me about all the things it did,

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and the things that it did were
a textbook for dog men. I

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mean, it showed itself to you
to let you know that it was there,

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and then before you knew it,
it was knocking on the house to

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let you know, Cay, I'm
still around, and then it goes up

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onto the roof and I'm just checking
off boxes, like I told you that

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day, just checking off boxes.
That's just textbook dog me behavior. It's

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just horrible that of all the things
that could have been doing, it decided

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to just mess with you that way. That's awful. Yeah, they do

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like to do that, don't they. You know? And that's that's the

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first thing you told me was when
I talked to Vic again, he's calming

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me down, rasuwing me. You
know, he could have done anything he

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wanted to. What he wanted to
do was just show you that he was

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there and scare you. And he
did a fantastic job. I fell for

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it, you know, oh that
he did. They're so good at doing

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that. But like I told you
that day, I mean, it was

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just a performance. If you wanted
to get you, he had every opportunity

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to do that. He could have
just broken in through the window or through

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a wall and grabbed you. But
the whole thing, like I told you

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that day, that never happened because
it didn't want to do that. So

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yeah, I'm gonna say the same
thing now. I told you half a

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million times in that conversation. If
he wanted to harm you, it would

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have already happened. So I mean, yeah, something goofy might happen,

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and yeah, he might decide to
change his line of thinking if you were

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to try to shoot him or take
profound action or something like that. But

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yeah, I mean, unless you
run into a belligerent one that just actually

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wants to kill people on site,
they're very liberate and how they act normally.

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So yeah, thank goodness. If
you have to have an encounter with

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one that wants to to maybe have
a little fun with you, that's one

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thing. But if you have an
encounter with one that actually wants to hurt

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you or kill you, that's totally
different. And like I told you that

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day on the phone, he proved
with his own actions that that's not the

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kind of doggy in the is thank
goodness right. And the thing that you

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know, in the in the time
that since Vic and I had our last

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phone call, you know, he
really really calmed me down at that phone

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call. He needed that super bad. And you know, the the medication

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that I got from the VA has
helped to you know, calm my mind,

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so I'm able to think rationally and
clearly and absolutely take in everything Vic

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just said. You know, if
he wanted to do anything to me,

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he would have. All he did
was stand there and stare at me,

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you know, and then he went
and made some noise like I'm still here,

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you know. But that's why I'm
really I'm really glad that you know,

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you asked me after we were done
talking if I wanted to come back

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on the show and talk about it, And he said, the only caveat

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is only if you think it's going
to help you, because if you don't

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think it's going to then I don't
want you to come back and make things

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worse. And it's good to come
and talk about this because y'all are really

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the only people I have been able
to talk to about it, you know,

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and talking things through really helps me
a lot. And you know,

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from the last time that I was
on the show and seeing all your positive

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comments and everything, the support is
outstanding. Thank you all so much.

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This is the place I know that
I can come and talk about this because

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I tried talking to my best friends
about it. I tried talking and my

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partner about it, and I got
nowhere with it. So being able to

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come here and talk about it and
hearing everything is fantastic. Thank you all

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so much. But in the time
that I've had to think about it,

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you know, I talked to it
probably three four days ago. One of

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the things that I was saying was, you know, I had my preconceived

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notions about this one with the red
eyes. That's what scared me so much,

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this nightmare scenario, seeing the one
with the red eyes and the fact

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that his head looked like the werewolf
head from that movie. You know,

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it was scary. He physically his
appearance scared me. That was the biggest

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thing, because I think back to
the dog Man that I had encountered before

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as a child, and tell you
what I'm gonna do. I'm going to

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refer to them separately. I'm going
to refer to the old one as golden

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eyes and the new one is red
Eyes, so I can properly tell you

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which ones I'm talking about and everything, you know, and keep it shorter.

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But when I had encouned for golden
Eyes as a kid and a little

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bit later as a young adult,
he looked very natural. He looked like

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he was a timber. He had
a timberwolf head on a large like mister

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Universe human tie body, you know, Whereas when I see this guy now,

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he looked like a movie monster.
And so that just it scared me

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so much more because of that.
And if y'all remember, I'm kind of

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a scaredy cat too from Path from
the Past, I'm very easily scared.

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So the biggest thing too, of
course, it was these red eyes.

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All like I keep saying, so, before all of this happened, you

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know, I had kind of preconceived
notions that, again, we don't really

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understand fully what these dog men are. Are they creatures, Are they flesh

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and blood creatures, Are they spiritual? Are they demonic? Are they from

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the ether? We don't know.
But I kind of had the theory before

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that the one golden eyes that I
had seen, that he was something flesh

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and blood creature natural. Whereas when
I saw this red eyes and I panicked.

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My thought process there was because I
was under the assumption before this that

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the red eyed ones might be something
potentially demonic, you know, something evil,

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because it didn't seem natural to me
because of how scary you looked.

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And in nature, there are so
few animals with red eyes, you know,

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beyond some fish and reptiles and bugs
and things, but nothing that really

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00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,519
glows their eyes naturally glow, you
know, there's very few animals that have

411
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:12,400
stuff like that, certainly nothing we
think of that are like very large humanoid

412
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:18,559
dog people. So I always had
kind of been under the assumption that maybe

413
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,319
they would be potentially a monster,
and so that's what super scared me.

414
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,519
But after having this encounter and having
the time to think about it, especially

415
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:33,680
with a much clearer head, and
having Vic, you know, reassure me

416
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:40,160
and talk me down, I almost
wonder if maybe they aren't, because in

417
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,680
my mind, if something demonic wants
to do something to you, they will.

418
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,079
They won't just watch you. That's
all he did. He just looked

419
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:52,640
at me from beyond the fence.
He didn't do anything, you know.

420
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,519
So I'm almost wondering now maybe it's
just we we just don't know about these

421
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,839
creatures. Maybe there's there's so much
more than than we could ever know,

422
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:07,680
and so my thought process has maybe
almost changed on what this is now.

423
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,599
A very good point that Vic had
brought up to me, He asked me,

424
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,319
do you watch any other dog Man
shows? Do you listen to many?

425
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,960
And that was a very good point
because I don't really Probably two or

426
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,200
three years ago I had seen some
stuff on YouTube, different channels, But

427
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,119
looking at them now, it's like
those were almost like creepy pastas. You

428
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,279
know, it's somebody reading from a
script, so you have no idea if

429
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:36,319
those experiences are credible or not.
Whereas you have VIC shows, these people

430
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,319
come on and they're able to share
their experiences and you can hear it in

431
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:42,880
their voices. These people are genuine, you know, But again the preconceived

432
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,519
notions, especially from those shows.
You know, the dog man ripped my

433
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,119
husband's face off. He had red
eyes and he ate his face, you

434
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,960
know, stuff like that. You
hear the creepy stuff that's meant to scare

435
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,440
you, you know, so that
may have contributed to the scare factor.

436
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,039
They're a bit But I'm trying to
make sure I I stay on track here,

437
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,359
and I don't forget what I wanted
to say. But I think that's

438
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,359
the gist of it there, Vick. If you if you if you think

439
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,119
I'm forgetting anything, or if I'm
getting off track, if you can steer

440
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,039
me back on. But I think
that's the gist of what I wanted to

441
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:20,039
say. With that is I almost
wonder if they are all just doing their

442
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,599
thing, you know, because he
could have hurt me, just like Golden

443
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,319
Eyes could have all those years ago
when he was young. You know,

444
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:30,480
when we were both young. I
was right up on him, I was

445
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:34,039
touching him his arm when I was
wrapping it up. He could have done

446
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,559
whatever he wanted me there. Even
as a four foot tall little guy,

447
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,759
he had claws and teeth. I
don't have, you know, but he

448
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:42,839
never he never did anything bad to
me. And now that I think about

449
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,599
it, red Eyes didn't do anything
bad to me either. He scared the

450
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,160
crap out of me. But you
know that's almost a part of it's,

451
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,279
I think, is our lizard brains. We fear the unknown. But part

452
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:53,680
of it, I think is my
own fault for falling for you know,

453
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,599
knowing that we what, we know
that these guys are here to put on

454
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,119
a show. So sorry if I
rambled up there. I wanted to make

455
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:05,599
sure I got that out. No, you didn't ramble. The more you

456
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,880
talk about a dog man encounter,
the more it's going to benefit you.

457
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,880
So if I can keep you talking, then yeah, that's a great thing.

458
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,119
So don't apologize for that. And
yeah, as long as you remember

459
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:20,279
what you just shared with this,
the fact that yeah, he could have

460
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:23,759
gotten to you and done whatever,
but he didn't because he didn't want to,

461
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,039
then yeah, you'll be in a
much better place than you were.

462
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,559
I think what Tuesday when we spoke
for the first time about that encounter,

463
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,640
Yeah, I think it wants Tuesday
now. I was just saying, please

464
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,359
remember the fact that yes, he
could have done anything he wanted to do

465
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,440
to you, like you just said
a few moments ago, but he never

466
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:51,039
harmed you. He was just doing
his performance to try to get a response

467
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,359
out of you. As long as
you remember that and never lose sight of

468
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,119
that, then you can definitely deal
with this in a healthy way. That's

469
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,799
really the only key to being able
to do that. So that's why I've

470
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,400
told you that so many times,
to just reinforce it. But Cody,

471
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,320
I've got my first question here for
you from Sheannanman. It's human's or and

472
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,679
Sheannon's question is how far does code
you live from any large body of woods?

473
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,880
Do I live by what? So
are you cut out? No,

474
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,519
no problem. Shannon wants to know
how far do you live from any large

475
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:30,440
body of woods? So I live
pretty close to two different separate bodies.

476
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,280
There's a nature trail probably about two
blocks from my house. It's a big

477
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,280
wooded area that's actually one of my
favorite places to go. I go there

478
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:43,880
quite often. But the town that
I live in in Florida is actually on

479
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,360
the edge of a massive national forest
in the center of the state, so

480
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:53,280
I'm not far and off from the
woods. Yeah, that definitely doesn't help.

481
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,519
But then again, I mean there's
nothing like living in the woods,

482
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,679
or at least buy the woods.
I mean, give a little here,

483
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,039
take a little there, So I
guess it all evens out absolutely, that's

484
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:12,719
right. I've got another question for
you from James G. And James question

485
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,239
is what is the relationship between orbs
and dog Man? Do you know?

486
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:21,920
I've heard a little bit about this, and I've seen some stuff on other

487
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,159
channels. I don't want to plug
any other channels on your show, Vic,

488
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:30,119
I'm not going to do that,
but I've seen I've seen some more

489
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:36,920
credible stuff than like the creepypasta type
stuff. I personally don't know. I've

490
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,480
never seen an ORB that I'm aware
of. Maybe I haven't just don't realize

491
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:45,280
it. I may thought it was
a light or something. But I've heard

492
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,039
that there's some kind of there might
be a potential thing with I think I've

493
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,159
heard more of that with like Sasquash, and you might know more about that

494
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:57,159
than me, Vic, I don't
know a whole lot about sasquatches, but

495
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,880
but I've heard that there's a relationship, a potential relation from between like orbs

496
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,039
and dog and Sash squash things like
that, some kind of maybe potential alien

497
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,800
connection. I can't speak beyond anything
I've seen in some other videos and things

498
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,079
like that, but I've never seen
anything that I can think of. Got

499
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:19,880
another question for you from Darren.
Darren wants to know where did this encounter

500
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:27,440
happen. This happened in my backyard
in Florida. I live in central Florida

501
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:32,159
right now, North central Florida.
Yeah, a lot of people think that

502
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:37,159
there really aren't many dog men down
there in Florida, but yeah, there

503
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:42,280
have been plenty of encounters that have
happened there, that's for sure. I've

504
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,519
got a comment from Shannon U man
Zor again, and her question is or

505
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,800
comment is not a question. But
he may see them on and off for

506
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,400
the rest of his life unfortunately,
And that's true. It might happen.

507
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,360
But as long as you remember the
things that we talked about code even you

508
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,559
should be able to handle them,
take them in stride. So I really

509
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:09,719
hope you never forget. No.
Absolutely, Like like you said, you

510
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,320
told me the same thing that you
did the first time we talked on the

511
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,000
phone call. And I even said
it too. I said, I've heard

512
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,880
you say that word for word on
so many occasions in other recordings on your

513
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,719
show and other podcasts you've been on
as well. But to hear it comes

514
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,119
straight from you, you know it, it hits different to hear it be

515
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,960
directed towards you directly. And then
that that calmed me down. I'm sure

516
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,400
you remember that calmed me down on
the phone call almost immediately, you know.

517
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,159
And you had a really good analogy
too, that really put things into

518
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,559
perspective. And like you said,
so long as I remember that, keep

519
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:45,400
my mind calm, stay rational about
it, then everything should be okay.

520
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:50,039
That's right. Just keep it all
in perspective. That's the key to it,

521
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:53,199
it really is. I've got another
question for you from Keith Smith,

522
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:59,119
and Keith wants to know or I
guess it's a comment. Her comment is

523
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:05,960
perhaps a difference between dog men's eye
colors determines the evil in them. See,

524
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,800
that's what I had originally thought,
too, especially because when I remember

525
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,559
golden eyes. You know, he
had those beautiful gold eyes, and his

526
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,360
eyes didn't glow, and I don't
remember ever really seeing any eye shine on

527
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,880
his eyes. But that's because I
never flashed any light directly into his eyes.

528
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,559
There was the time that he was
in front of my car, but

529
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,559
he was standing up above my light, so they weren't directly in his eyes,

530
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:30,800
so they weren't shining. His eyes
didn't glow Red Eyes. His eyes

531
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,559
did glow, And I used to
think that too, you know, maybe

532
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:37,519
there's a potential connection with that,
with the demonic thing, the potentially evil

533
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,639
thing. But I almost think after
this encounter, you know, just the

534
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:44,519
fact that Red Eyes didn't do anything
to me, really, he just looked

535
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,079
at me. It was it was
on me for getting freaked out like I

536
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,840
did. He really didn't do anything. He probably did try to scare me

537
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,840
once he came up to the house, but beyond that, I almost don't

538
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,920
know about that anymore, you know. But I'm not an expert by any

539
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,360
means. These are just my thoughts
over the last couple of days. That's

540
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,639
a funny thing. There are no
experts in this. You have some people

541
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:08,000
who tell you that they are,
but yeah, there are no experts.

542
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:14,800
And I'm not gonna share this person's
name, but I see a comment that's

543
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:21,920
been left stating that dog men visit
Earth from Hell through portals. That's the

544
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,239
problem with this whole dog Man field. You've got so many people making comments

545
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,880
like that is fact when we don't
know that there's no way to know for

546
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,679
sure where they come from. So, yeah, if you're going to make

547
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:39,199
a comment about these guys, please
separate what we think we do know from

548
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,320
what we have no way of knowing. There's no way, like I said,

549
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,400
that we could know definitively where these
guys come from. So we don't

550
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,400
know if they come from hell.
We don't know. If there's another comment

551
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,480
earlier stating that angels call dog men
hell hounds, we don't know that you

552
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:04,519
whoever made that comment, doesn't know
that definitively. That's what causes so many

553
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:09,639
eyewitnesses and other people who aren't eyewitnesses, they're just really interested in the dogma

554
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:15,519
phenomena phenomenon to be so confused about
all this. They'll read all this information

555
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:20,400
that's just put out there as fact, when in fact it's just opinion.

556
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,800
So please keep that in mind.
And then I see where Kate Smith has

557
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,119
made another comment. She said,
I believe if you're a believer, you're

558
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:35,280
protected, and she just might be
right. Maybe you know, I'm a

559
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,719
Christian myself, I definitely believe that
there have been times in life that I've

560
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,679
been protected by God. A little
fun fact about that. Actually I had

561
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:49,440
shared it with Vic I remember on
the first time we talked, but I

562
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,360
forgot to mention it the last time
we recorded. But I remember the first

563
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,000
time I had encountered Golden Eyes as
an adult, you know, I was

564
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:02,000
seventeen years old, and when I
saw him and wasn't fully connecting the dots

565
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,920
of what was happening, I had
a sense of existential dread that came over

566
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,920
me, like I was going to
die. Obviously I didn't, but I

567
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:14,360
got that feeling, you know.
And then years later when I was overseas

568
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,519
and I was wounded. You know, I was wounded pretty bad. Like

569
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:20,480
I said, my head got torn
up pretty bad, my feet, my

570
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:22,840
knees, my back, everything like
that. But I didn't get that sense.

571
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,880
When that happened, I knew I
wasn't going to die. So I

572
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,079
feel like there's definitely a sense of
potentially a sense of protection there. But

573
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,199
that's that's something for me to keep
in mind now as well. If I

574
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,559
do encounter anymore dog men in the
future, do I feel that sense again?

575
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,920
You know? But that's a long
way around that I'm sorry, but

576
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,320
yeah, there could be potentially some
protection there. You know, hopefully I'll

577
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,039
never have another encounter, but I
guess time will tell. That's yet to

578
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:55,960
be seen, it really is.
The next question is from Shean and humans

579
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,199
Were and Shannon's question is, Couldie
do you think dog men can tell when

580
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:06,519
a person has already had a dog
meaning encounter. I've heard that before.

581
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:13,000
There's really no way of us knowing. It could be if there's some actual

582
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,320
what's it called, if there's some
merit to this imprinting thing, because like

583
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,400
I said before, I feel that
Golden Eyes has imprinted on me. I

584
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,400
don't know if I have on him
or not. And if that's something that

585
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,320
other dog men can see or sense, whatever you want to call it,

586
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,519
there's a chance there is. It
tends to be that most people that how

587
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:38,719
do I put it, people do
There are some people that do have multiple

588
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:45,239
encounters. You know, some people
are fortunate enough to only have one or

589
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,960
unfortunate to have one in the first
place, but a lot of people have

590
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:54,679
reported multiple encounters. If you remember, Keith came on not too long before

591
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,679
I did, he had many many
encounters, and so there's a chance that

592
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,039
that is the case. We really
just don't have any way of knowing.

593
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:07,000
Unfortunately. Yeah, there's so many
things about these guys that it really would

594
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,199
be nice to know, but I
guess we're going to just have to guess

595
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,039
about so many of these things.
I've got another comment for you from Kate

596
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:21,360
Smith. She says to me,
being protected means never seeing them, and

597
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,719
she just might be right. Like
I said, she just might be right

598
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,039
about that. I've got another question
from Darren for you. Darren wants to

599
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:35,800
know did you smell him before you
saw him. I'm going to answer that

600
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,159
question, but I kind of want
to go back to what Katie said real

601
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:44,559
quick. You know, never encountering
one is the is protection, which is

602
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:46,679
real funny because you think about it. I remember Mike and Paul had talked

603
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:51,880
about it last week. There are
so many people who say they want to

604
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,880
see one, they want to encounter
one. And I remember you vic two.

605
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,719
You even said when we recorded last
time. You said there that I

606
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,360
probably don't see it this way,
but there are a lot of people who

607
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,559
consider them, who consider myself me
lucky for having the experience I did as

608
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,280
a kid. You know, and
you think about it and It's funny.

609
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,360
I remember Paul and Mike saying like, yeah, people want to see one,

610
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
but they expect it to go like
a happy like oh I see you

611
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,840
wave high, you know, and
then leave peacefully. But a lot of

612
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,679
times that's not the case. So
people get terrified of these things, you

613
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:27,880
know, bluff charges and making the
presence known, enforcing the encounter. So

614
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,559
in a way, Katie, I
think you're very right on that is the

615
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:35,880
best way is not to see one, but to answer to answer Darren's question.

616
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,800
Now, I'm sorry, what was
the question again, Oh, no

617
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,559
problem. Yeah, you wanted to
know if you smelled that dog man before

618
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,119
you saw it, talking about red
Eyes. I did. Yeah, I

619
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:51,480
did smell him because the first thing
I realized about the whole thing, I

620
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,639
heard that really weird off sounding like
bark sound, and then not long after

621
00:44:54,679 --> 00:45:00,960
that that smell hit me. It
was like a mix of dog and rotten

622
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:05,760
fish. So I definitely did smell
him. Yeah, they don't smell good,

623
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,400
that's for sure. I've got a
question. It's a general question from

624
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,199
Earth Files UK, and that question
is do dog men take care of their

625
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,599
own dead? We don't know.
There are so many things like that that

626
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:21,960
we have no way of knowing.
All we can do is yes, maybe

627
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,079
someday we'll find out. But I
wouldn't hold my breath. I really wouldn't

628
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:30,960
recommend doing that. The next question
is from Ky from sixteen seventy five,

629
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:37,119
and their question is, Cody,
did you get the primal feeling vibration in

630
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:42,000
the chest when it growled? Thanks
Keith. Oh, absolutely I did,

631
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,199
and I did with Golden Eyes when
I was a kid. You know,

632
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,639
he growled at me when I first
met him, and I got that rattling

633
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:50,800
in my bones, and I definitely
felt it this time with the red eyes

634
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,559
too, And this time I knew
what that sound was, so it scared

635
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:59,400
me even more. Yeah, I
mean, this is a totally different encounter

636
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,440
than what you have with Golden Eyes, so I'm sure it did frighten me

637
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:07,519
a lot more. It's not surprising. The next question would be from Marco

638
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:14,440
aka Joe, and that's kind of
a stretch. If his name is Marco,

639
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,840
then why do you say goodbye?
Joe? That's all right anyway.

640
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,199
His question is, Cody, do
you believe dog men are supernatural beings or

641
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,920
flesh and blood animals. I'm really
on the cusp of it. You know,

642
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,280
it's so difficult to tell. With
the first encounter I had with Golden

643
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Eyes, I was able to physically
touch him, helping him clean his wound.

644
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,199
He bled, so to me,
that's a sign of being a flesh

645
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:47,119
and blood literally blood creature, you
know, But you hear of all these

646
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:52,119
other stories and it's just hard to
tell. Like even with this past encounter

647
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,559
this last week with Red Eyes,
like I said, I heard the sounds

648
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,760
of the scratching on the wall and
walking on the roof. Now you figure

649
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,199
a creature that's probably eight nine feet
tall is going to do some damage when

650
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,960
it jumps up onto something like that. But the roof looked unharmed. There

651
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,679
were no scratches on the wall,
and there was nothing on any of the

652
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:20,440
fences outside. So that almost makes
me think maybe he was something potentially supernatural.

653
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:23,840
The fact that he didn't damage anything. You know, I have no

654
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:31,159
idea. It's it's such a strange
thing to try and figure out, because,

655
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,239
like I said, Golden Eyes,
I physically touched him, and he

656
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,840
looked like a natural thing that should
exist in the world. To me,

657
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,760
Red Eyes, when I first saw
him, he didn't look natural. He

658
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,280
looked like a movie monster. It's
just so hard to tell. Every dog

659
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,480
man seems to be so different,
and that it's almost like you almost have

660
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,280
to wonder, are we ever really
gonna know? Do we really want to

661
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,800
know? I mean we do because
we ask, but in people research,

662
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:01,559
but really my opinion, I'm leaning
more towards I think flesh and blood creatures.

663
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:07,360
But it's it's almost impossible to say. I've said this before. If

664
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,599
you do what I do for any
period of time, it's only natural you're

665
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:15,239
going to bounce back and forth from
at one moment being convinced that these guys

666
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,639
have to be flesh and blood,
and then the next moment you're convinced that,

667
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,440
okay, maybe they're aliens or maybe
they're supernatural beings. You just bounce

668
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:27,960
back and forth, back and forth. If you think about it, if

669
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,519
they are flesh and blood, how
could you explain an eye witness in in

670
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:38,719
Vermont having an encounter one morning,
for example, they get freaked out,

671
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:44,719
they fly home to Miami or to
someplace around the Everglades. Actually, then

672
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,199
the next morning they have an encounter
with the same dog man out their back

673
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,000
door. If it's flesh and blood, you cannot explain that away, but

674
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,800
if they're supernatural you could. But
then again, on the other hand,

675
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,719
if they are supernatural, then they
do so many things, things that point

676
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,360
soundly towards them being flesh and blood. So yeah, it's really a vicious

677
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,039
circle that it's just so hard to
make sense out of it, really is.

678
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,360
The next question for you is from
Raider, and Raider wants to know

679
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:19,239
Coudie. Is there a chance it's
offspring. Is there a chance it is

680
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:25,159
offspring of Golden Eyes? Or is
he too big to be his? I

681
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,079
never thought of that. I don't
think he is, just because he looks

682
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:36,400
so drastically different, you know,
Golden Eyes, like I said, he

683
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,679
looked like he had the head of
a large timberwolf on like a super jacked

684
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,320
body, you know, like an
almost humanoid body. But his coloration,

685
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,519
his build, everything was so different
from Red Eyes. I don't think.

686
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:52,679
I don't really think there is a
connection there. And again the fact that

687
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:55,480
well, like Vic just touched on
it. But you know, I'm from

688
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:59,719
Minnesota and that's where I encountered Golden
Eyes, and now down here in Florida

689
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,480
this completely different encounter. But like
Vick just just talked on, you know,

690
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,760
just somebody encountered one and Vermont and
in the same one again in Miami.

691
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:13,480
So I guess that could potentially be
a chance. But I didn't think

692
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:15,280
of it that way, you know, But I think they just looked too

693
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,840
different. Like the head shape especially
was extremely different. You know. It's

694
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,239
not to say that he couldn't be
It's not to say that a muscular person

695
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,840
can't have a skinny person offspring.
But I think they just looked way too

696
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:35,079
entirely different to be to be potentially
related. I think he might be onto

697
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:39,039
something. That's one heck of Bavarians
in appearance for those two two be related.

698
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,719
So yeah, I'll bet you're right. I'll bet they're not. I've

699
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,599
got another question for you from Darren, and his question is, doesn't it

700
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:52,400
make more sense that these creatures are
an off world species making their way here.

701
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,000
I've heard of that theory too,
that they're aliens. That's intriguing.

702
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,519
I love the idea of alien and
I can't think I can't imagine where the

703
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:05,400
only life in the universe, you
know, So to think that there's a

704
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,840
potential chance that this super advanced canid
race craft on Earth and they're just stuck

705
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,639
here. That's a fascinating thought,
but I have no way to prove that.

706
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:17,360
I don't think anybody does. But
it's it is a really interesting thought

707
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,480
theren. I'm glad you brought that
up. It is interesting, and that

708
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:27,320
really would explain a lot of things. Maybe they are time will tell.

709
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,800
Well, possibly time will tell.
I wouldn't hold my breath for that,

710
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:36,199
though. I've got another question for
you from Toby mckimmey. And Toby's question

711
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:43,679
is can dogman mine speak if they
choose to. I think I have experienced

712
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:50,800
that. If anybody remembers me recounting
about golden Eyes when after I had helped

713
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,280
him in the barn, when he
got back up and he was about to

714
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,599
go out of the barn, he
looked back at me before running out,

715
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,079
and I could have sworn orn I
heard clear as day in my mind,

716
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:07,960
somebody say, thank you. No, I I was twelve years old.

717
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,079
You know that was seventeen years ago. I'm twenty eight and I'll be twenty

718
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:14,000
nine soon. So it was seventeen
years ago, two thousand and seven.

719
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:19,559
So it could be, especially with
the way my mind is now, I

720
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,159
could be misremembering, but I feel
like, I heard something in my head

721
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,039
say thank you to me that day, So that's my experience with it.

722
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:30,159
I didn't hear anything like that this
time, but there are so many other

723
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:37,639
eyewitnesses that have reported hearing it,
so there's a strong leaning towards Yeah,

724
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,239
maybe you know that's right. Yeah, you would be far from the first

725
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:46,000
dog man eyewitness to report experiencing something
like that. Yeah, a lot of

726
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,920
very credible eyewitnesses, just like you, Cody, have reported that experience of

727
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:54,480
experience in mind speak from these guys. Don't know how they do it,

728
00:52:54,519 --> 00:53:00,519
but apparently on some occasions they do, and that's a fact. And then

729
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:06,079
moving forward, it looks like Kate
Smith is another comment. She's saying,

730
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:08,920
I think the government are experts,
but they're not sharing. And that's a

731
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,239
good point. They probably are experts. They probably have these guys in cages

732
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,880
and all. I wouldn't put it
past them to be creating these guys.

733
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:21,280
Not all dog men, in my
opinion, are created in a test tube.

734
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:25,079
But I think with our technology now, some are all this talk about

735
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,320
having microchip dog men and all this, it might have some truth to it

736
00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:37,920
if we are actually creating them in
test tubes but again I want to make

737
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,960
sure I'm clear on this and saying
that, Yeah, I don't think for

738
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:44,960
a second that all dog men were
created by the government, because if they

739
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,880
were, that wouldn't explain all the
encounters that date way back before we had

740
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:57,360
anything approaching the technology to do something
like that. I think about eighteen eighty

741
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,480
seven in Wexford County, Michigan.
It's the first documented dog man encounter,

742
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:08,199
and just imagine back then, we
didn't have anything approaching the technology to make

743
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:13,559
a test to dog me in.
So that's why I say that I kind

744
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:15,559
of can't help but laugh when I
hear those kinds of theories, not to

745
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:20,760
discredit or make fun of everyone anyone, because it could it could very well

746
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,559
be, you know, but I
think, to me, I've worked at

747
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:28,239
government jobs at every level from federal
down to city, and I honestly just

748
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:34,760
don't think anybody in the government's competent
enough to do anything like that. It

749
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,719
could be, you know, you
never know, Yeah, you never do,

750
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:44,360
know, That's true. Good point. It looks like Earth Files UK

751
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,519
as the next question they want to
know, So Cody is having contact with

752
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:54,480
dog men in another state where his
first encounter took place. Yes, my

753
00:54:54,559 --> 00:55:00,440
first encounter took place in my home
state of Minnesota, and then the previous

754
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,559
the following ones with the same dog
mang Golden Eyes all took place in Minnesota.

755
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,920
This one took place in Florida,
where I live. Now, that

756
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,079
clears that up, and then it
looks like blood. Vipa has a comment.

757
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:20,280
That comment is I'm not a believer, and all those scared never hell,

758
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:30,039
never hurt. And then I'm scrolling
down looking for the next question.

759
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,360
It's funny. Kate Smith made a
comment stating I know better. I never

760
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:43,719
want to see them ever, and
that's smart. It is that is smart,

761
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:50,400
And then Raider wants to know did
Golden Eyes stink? Also, I

762
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:57,119
don't remember him having a smell.
Granted again, remember this was seventeen years

763
00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,239
ago when I encountered him for the
first time, and I was so young

764
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:06,000
and I was terrified in the moment
that if there was, I probably didn't

765
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,639
notice. It was also the fact
too, that when I encountered him one

766
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:13,880
on one, he was inside of
our family storage barn, and that was

767
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,639
kind of a musty old barn,
so it had its own smell in there,

768
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:20,400
so it may have masked it,
or I just may not have remembered

769
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,880
it, or he may not have
had one at all. I unfortunately can't

770
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,719
give a full answer on that one. I'm sorry. Yeah, barn definitely

771
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:31,280
will hide some smells. It'll mask
them, that's for sure. The next

772
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,239
question is from SIG twelve twelve,
and their question is or I guess it's

773
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:42,599
a comment combat changes your puridigm exactly
like seeing a dog man, And that's

774
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:45,719
true, it will. Yeah,
I've experienced both and I can attest to

775
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:51,559
that. Yeah, definitely. And
again, like I told you, I'm

776
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,719
so sorry to hear that you suffered
that traumatic brain injury, but thank you

777
00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:01,800
so much for serving our country.
I can't thank you enough. It looks

778
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:07,599
like Kate Smith has the next question, which is do dog men live as

779
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:12,119
long as a normal dog? Well, that's one of those questions here that

780
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,760
we don't have any way of knowing. Maybe if they asked government tac who

781
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:22,360
supervises this dog man or that dog
man in the cage somewhere the government's got

782
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,519
them locked up, they could probably
answer that for you. Maybe they couldn't.

783
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:28,639
I don't know. It depends on
how long they've had them in captivity.

784
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:31,239
But yeah, I've got no way
of answering that question for you.

785
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,239
Unfortunately, maybe we'll get lucky one
day and one of those people that do

786
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,400
that will reach out to you,
Vic and they'll get on the show and

787
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:45,480
they'll they'll regale us. All,
yeah, that's gonna happen. Yeah,

788
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:49,039
if that does happen, that's when
you need to go out and before you

789
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:52,960
get into your car truck check under
it every time for a bomb or something.

790
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:58,159
But oh yeah, don't hold your
breath on that. It looks like

791
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,199
Kate Smith is another comment. She
says, because they share some traits of

792
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,559
dogs, perhaps they only live like
fifteen or twenty years, And yeah,

793
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:12,599
that's possible. It's entirely possible.
I think they live longer than that.

794
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,920
But who am I to say?
It's really hard to say. And then

795
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:22,039
it looks like Raider has another comment
he wants to share with you. He

796
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:27,079
says, could you I had gray
aliens in my house around nineteen ninety seven,

797
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:31,800
and I do think that's what they
are, alien And yeah, like

798
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,000
that could potentially tie back in.
Somebody asked the question about the orbs,

799
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:45,440
and then I think it was Darren
asked about about them being extraterrestrial, you

800
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,559
know, like, hey, you
know, if you saw it yourself,

801
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:52,880
then that could lead to some credence
to it. It could, it sure

802
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:58,360
could. Kate's got another comment.
She says, I do think the dog

803
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,199
men are like humans, good and
some are bad. And I agree.

804
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:06,760
I think she's right on that.
I think just about every living creature is

805
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,039
going to be that way. You
know, Yeah, that's normally how it

806
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:16,199
is. Name one creature where every
last specimen is good. Doesn't happen,

807
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,599
No, it just doesn't. The
next question is from Ian, and Ian's

808
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:25,400
question is if you had to have
another one, what would be an ideal

809
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:30,440
dog me an encounter? Well,
not to have one is the first thing

810
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:36,119
that comes to mind. But to
answer your question for me, you know,

811
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,559
I guess the encounters I've had have
been ideal, Like even this one

812
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:43,000
last week, Like I said,
red Eyes, he didn't do anything to

813
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:45,480
me. He just scared me.
And part of that's my own fault for

814
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:49,599
letting myself be so scared like that, you know, having known what I

815
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,280
a little bit of what I know, I guess if I were to have

816
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:58,559
the ideal encounter again, it would
be to seeg olden eyes again, in

817
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:02,440
a friendly manner. You know,
I haven't seen him super close up since

818
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,960
I was twelve when I first encountered
Nimhn seventeen, he was in front of

819
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,239
my car. When I saw him
last when I was twenty five, he

820
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,719
was out in a field and I
was in an apartment across the street.

821
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,679
So I haven't seen him close up
in a long time. I guess.

822
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,199
Again, that's not to say that
I think that that's what we should be

823
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,320
doing. That's not to say that
that's what I want. But if it

824
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,159
were to happen to have the ideal
thing, I guess would beat him,

825
01:00:27,519 --> 01:00:30,800
maybe see him again in a friendly
way, and maybe see if the mind

826
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,280
speak thing is really you know,
I have a conversation, but I'm not

827
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,159
holding my breath for any of that. Yeah, I don't see that ever

828
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:44,079
happening, So definitely, I don't
hold your breath for it. And I've

829
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:46,559
got a comment here from Darren good
Man. He says, thank you so

830
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:52,679
much for your service to our country
and I love you all. Well,

831
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:57,480
thank you right back at you,
definitely, And then I see a comment

832
01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:00,079
from fiber Geek saying that he asked
the question way back in the feed.

833
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:04,599
Well, I didn't see it.
I apologize for that, so please type

834
01:01:04,599 --> 01:01:08,840
it in all caps again so I
don't miss that. And then moving on,

835
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:16,559
I've got a question from onnet Cute
Cute z In Loney's question is Cody,

836
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:21,079
how did you feel when you touched
golden eyes? And how did he

837
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:25,679
feel? Meaning his fur, blood
color, et cetera. Yeah, that

838
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,719
was something else. You know,
I don't think I really touched on that

839
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:36,719
last time on how it really was. You know, the fur his fur

840
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,320
color was that coyote and timberwolf coloring, that that light gray mixed in with

841
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,519
the brown and the blacks and the
whites and that kind of stuff. And

842
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:49,119
his blood was red when I saw
it, you know, I could see

843
01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:52,679
it coming out of his arm.
There was some dripping onto the floor when

844
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:54,840
I helped him clean it up.
When I touched him, he felt firm,

845
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,360
you know, his his forearm,
his front left forearm was where he

846
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:06,800
washed and on his how do I
describe this? From his head down to

847
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,480
his shoulders, he was pretty fur
covered, and then once it started to

848
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:13,719
get down to his torso and onto
his forearms, the fur tapered pretty good.

849
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,480
Known his his fore arms are pretty
bare from fur, and he was

850
01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:21,519
firm when I felt him. You
know, he wasn't a big, jacked

851
01:02:21,519 --> 01:02:24,159
out bodybuilder like he became when he
was an adult. But even when he

852
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:29,400
had a young age like that,
he still had a pretty good looking muscular

853
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,920
build to him at that at that
young age, it was kind of similar

854
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,000
to mine when I was twelve years
old. Not to say that I was

855
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:37,719
built or anything as a twelve year
old, but I was in good shape,

856
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:43,960
you know, for the age.
But his arm felt firm, and

857
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:50,039
it wasn't you know, the back, the backside, the side with fur

858
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,800
on. It felt like just soft
fur like you'd expect to feel on a

859
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,320
on a fluffy coyote if you ever
felt one. You know, I've got

860
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,280
a coyote pelt at home on the
wall, and it's it's soft. So

861
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:05,960
that's what his fur felt like,
for sure. But his skin it almost

862
01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:08,880
felt just like regular skin, like
the human's, you know. But his

863
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,079
his arm was firm, he had
some he had some muscle to him,

864
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:16,320
even as a little guy. I
can only at warm. He felt warm,

865
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,320
for sure, you know, like
a warm blooded creature does. I

866
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,280
can only imagine what it must have
been like to actually touch dog me,

867
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:31,079
and that's that is just amazing.
It must be. I've got a comment

868
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:37,760
from k from sixteen seventy five.
Their comment is kodeyat suggest checking to see

869
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,920
if there are any old slash new
articles regarding dog men in your area.

870
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:47,280
That is a really good idea,
and I should do that because I've actually

871
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,639
seen some stuff like that with bigfoot
sightings in this area, So I should

872
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,760
check to see if there's anything dog
man related. Yeah, it just might

873
01:03:54,800 --> 01:04:00,440
be. Michelle's got the next question, which is I've considered that perhaps if

874
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,119
one of the dog men know you, they all do the mind speak makes

875
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:12,519
me feel like that's possible. What
are your thoughts? Yeah, maybe I

876
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:15,800
don't think there's there's probably not a
hive mind or anything, you know,

877
01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:18,840
like in insects, but there there
could be a chance with that. I

878
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,920
think somebody had kind of asked something
similar earlier, you know, and it

879
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,440
could very well be they they somehow
know. There's just no way we're ever

880
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:31,920
going to know. I think at
this point it's because we were teetering on

881
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,760
that line of are they are they
physical creatures? Are they spiritual? Supernatural?

882
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,400
Whatever you want to call it,
And it could very well be it's

883
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,000
just another one of those things that
we don't know. I'm I'm sorry I

884
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,039
can't answer your question, but that's
just how I feel about it. You

885
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:48,639
know, had it to the list
of questions we're probably never going to know

886
01:04:48,679 --> 01:04:55,039
the answers to. Unfortunately, it's
so fun to ask, so oh sure,

887
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:59,440
yeah, it definitely is. And
I'm seeing other questions or comments about

888
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,480
people ask questions I didn't address.
Yeah, if you ask a question way

889
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:08,079
back that I haven't asked, then
yeah, please just be sure to type

890
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:12,519
it in all caps again so that
I'll catch it this time. I apologize

891
01:05:12,519 --> 01:05:17,079
for missing any And then I've got
another question for you from g Black Sheep,

892
01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:24,440
and their question is did you feel
hypnotized at all? The closest I

893
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,880
would feel to being hypnotized, I
think, is when I would encounter goolden

894
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:32,159
eyes. I had mentioned, you
know, looking into his eyes made me

895
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:36,719
freeze largely, I think because I
didn't know what I was looking at,

896
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:41,519
and that's maybe the fight or flight
respond like a deer freezes in headlights,

897
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:44,719
you know, you see something like
that. That's the closest I think I've

898
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,440
ever been to something like that.
I don't think full on hypnotized, but

899
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:53,079
seeing his eyes and freezing, not
knowing what to do, you know,

900
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:58,239
taken aback both by the beauty he
had the most beautiful golden eyes he did,

901
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,400
and then just the what my looking
at the shot? You know,

902
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:06,639
but I don't think straight up hypnotized. Yeah, I'm sure it felt like

903
01:06:06,679 --> 01:06:11,039
a bolt of electricity went through.
Yeah. Every time you see these guys,

904
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:16,239
it probably feels that way. It
looks like raiders. Got The next

905
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:21,400
question, and that question is how
big length wise was golden eyes? You

906
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:27,159
might have said it, but I
missed it. I'm guessing he was probably

907
01:06:27,199 --> 01:06:30,719
seven feet tall at the largest when
I saw him. The only way I

908
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,679
have to gauge off of that is
when I encountered him when I was seventeen

909
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:38,400
years old. The second time,
I was driving my car home at night

910
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,199
and he ran in front of my
car when I was stopped, and he

911
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,039
was standing straight up in front of
me, and I had really, I

912
01:06:46,119 --> 01:06:48,719
really had no other way to gauge
how tall he would have been. I'm

913
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:55,920
just guessing that he was probably about
seven feet at that time when he was

914
01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:00,079
when he was young, when I
first encountered him, I guess he was

915
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:03,559
about four feet tall. And the
way that I gauged that was because when

916
01:07:03,559 --> 01:07:06,440
I first saw him, he was
leaning up against a gate up by the

917
01:07:06,519 --> 01:07:10,960
house, and that gate, I
remember, was five feet tall. And

918
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,840
I know that because when I was
twelve years old, I was five feet

919
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,280
tall, and when he was leaning
up against that gate, he looked like

920
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,719
he had about a foot underneath of
it. So I think when he was

921
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:24,000
young, he was probably about four
feet and then when I counted him again,

922
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:26,840
he was probably about seven feet.
And then the third time, I

923
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,440
really have no way of knowing,
because I saw him out in an open

924
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,199
field from the balcony of my apartment. Hey do seem to grow pretty quickly,

925
01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:38,880
so that does fit. It looks
like g Black Sheep's got another question

926
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,199
for you. They want to know
if you experienced any psychic vision or anything.

927
01:07:44,599 --> 01:07:46,320
The closest thing would be is I
think, is those dreams that I've

928
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:53,320
had. If people don't know or
didn't hear the previous episode, I started

929
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,400
having those kind of weird dreams when
I first moved down here to Florida.

930
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,079
I moved down here at the end
of twenty twenty one, and the last

931
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:05,199
time I saw Goldeneyes was in the
summer of twenty twenty, but after I

932
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:10,679
moved down here, I started I
get these dreams very very infrequently, and

933
01:08:10,719 --> 01:08:15,640
it'll be just me and him in
kind of a white space, and sometimes

934
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:21,079
we'll talk to each other in this
dream, Like the first time I ever

935
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:24,760
had this dream, he looked at
me and his mouth doesn't move when he

936
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,800
talks like this, so this might
lead a little more into the mind speak

937
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,359
thing. But the first thing he
ever said to me in this dream was

938
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,720
where are you? And then I
immediately woke up. And then anytime I've

939
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:38,119
had it after, I've asked him
questions and he'll sometimes respond, mostly by

940
01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:40,680
just like giving a nod or a
shake of the head. He hasn't really

941
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,680
talked much otherwise. But again,
these may just be dreams. We really

942
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,359
don't have any way of knowing,
especially with my brain injuries. There's a

943
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:51,079
good chance that is just dreams,
but it might not be. There might

944
01:08:51,119 --> 01:08:55,800
be some more communication in the future. And I'm really sorry to the people

945
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,319
that listen last time and wanted an
update. There unfortunately is no update.

946
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:03,000
I haven't had any more like that
recently. Well, like I said before,

947
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:06,880
I hope your days of having encounters
are behind you, but I mean,

948
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:12,159
getting this gracious last Saturday, you
just had one, So who's to

949
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:17,680
say? It's hard to know.
Kate Smith left a comment which states I

950
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,920
think they should leave us alone and
vice versa, and that would be nice,

951
01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:28,000
That would be really nice. I
agree. There's oh, what is

952
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:34,319
it? There's a there's a quote
that sums it up perfectly when I think

953
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:38,640
of that. It's from the Lost
World Jurassic part of the second movie.

954
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,640
At the end of the movie,
John happens doing the press conference, and

955
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,399
what does he say. He says, these creatures require our absence, not

956
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,600
our presence, to survive. And
I think that absolutely. That hits the

957
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,680
nail on the head for me when
I hear that. You know, I

958
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,479
think the same way with the dog
men. They don't need us and we

959
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,920
certainly don't need them. I think
we should just leave well enough alone.

960
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,840
That's great advice, really good advice. I've got another question for you from

961
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:10,640
Michigan meat eater, and his question
is how big were golden eyed hands Comparing

962
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,159
that to a human of similar size. They were certainly bigger. I'll say

963
01:10:15,239 --> 01:10:21,000
that is they were elongated and the
fingers were much longer than you'd find on

964
01:10:21,039 --> 01:10:26,239
a person. And I mean he
was just big in general. You know,

965
01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:31,520
he's a big boy. He had
I remember he had claws on his

966
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,520
hands too, like not the dog
claws you would expect. I've heard other

967
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:40,560
people kind of compare it to like
raccoon hands and raccoon claws maybe a little

968
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,000
bit like that. But they were
they did. They were big. I

969
01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:46,600
don't really even know how to compare
them. They were just certainly bigger and

970
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:53,359
longer than a human's hands would be. They definitely do have disportionately large hands,

971
01:10:54,039 --> 01:10:57,359
being as big as they can be. If you imagine hands that are

972
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,680
too big or look too big to
fit a body of that big size,

973
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,159
that's going to kind of give you
an idea they could. A big one

974
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:09,760
could put his hand on top of
a trash can lid and the thumb would

975
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,680
be on one edge, and then
the fingers, the tips of its other

976
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,319
fingers would be on the other edge. Think about that a trash can sized

977
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,359
talking about like a metal trash can. That is a trash can lid sized

978
01:11:21,399 --> 01:11:26,439
hand. That's a big hand,
not talking about the talons or anything.

979
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,520
That's just the fingers. That's how
big their hands can get yep, huge,

980
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,840
really big. It looks like truth. Iris wants to know if you

981
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:46,439
had any paranormal or ghosting counters.
I want to tentively say yes. I

982
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,720
was stationed in Okinawa, Japan for
three and a half years, and Okinawa

983
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:56,800
is largely considered to be haunted because
of the atrocities that happened there in World

984
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,920
War two. And there were some
weird things that I saw. There was

985
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,439
some weird things that other people that
I was there with also said they saw,

986
01:12:06,319 --> 01:12:10,079
probably the scariest one that I can
think of off the top of my

987
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:15,560
head. I'll share this story just
real quick. I was in my barracks

988
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,960
room late at night one night,
I was in my in my bed.

989
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,520
I didn't have a room mate because
I was I was a non commissioned officer,

990
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:27,479
so I rated my own room in
the marracks. But I turned over

991
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,720
in my bed. Why do all
these stories always they always start with me

992
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,279
not being able to sleep in bed
and I turn over and I see something

993
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,039
good. Point, because that's when
I first saw golden ice too. But

994
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,720
I turned over in my bed and
in the corner I saw what looked like

995
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:48,520
this strange, tall floating black like
mist in the corner, and then above

996
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:53,000
it, floating above that was like
a circle, a white circle of mist.

997
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,960
And I remember flicking on my lamp
next to my bed and went away,

998
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,800
and I thought, oh, my
mind just playing tricks on me,

999
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:01,520
and I turned off the and then
it was there again. So needless to

1000
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,279
say, I slept with the lights
on that night. But yeah, I

1001
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,920
saw some kind of strange things like
that when I was overseas, and a

1002
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,079
lot of the other people I was
over there with said they saw similar things

1003
01:13:13,079 --> 01:13:17,720
as well. That's something I never
really thought about. When you consider how

1004
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,159
many people died there, I guess
it would be it would make sense that

1005
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:26,479
it would be so haunted. So
a super common thing is hearing voices,

1006
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,119
mainly in Japanese. You know,
some people reported hearing like little girls laughing,

1007
01:13:31,319 --> 01:13:36,560
or somebody talking like frantically in the
language they just didn't understand, you

1008
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:41,039
know. Or they're hearing footsteps in
the barracks at night. Lots of stuff

1009
01:13:41,079 --> 01:13:45,640
like that. So well, that's
awfully creepy. I've got another question for

1010
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,359
you from Captain Solo, and their
question is do they know who God is?

1011
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:56,239
I have no way of knowing that
for myself, but I certainly do

1012
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,800
good Man good Way to answer that
too. And then Mike wants everyone to

1013
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,439
know that he had an encounter with
a dog man in Delaware and its legs

1014
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:10,239
were like a kangaroo. Ever heard
of that. I have heard of somebody

1015
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:15,079
describe them like kangaroo legs before.
I guess. I guess you mean like

1016
01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:18,960
they kind of bend weird and they're
they're really super long. That's what comes

1017
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,800
to mind. I think that's what
he was asking about him. Yeah,

1018
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,600
yeah, I have heard other people
other encounters describe it like that before.

1019
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:33,279
I'm pretty sure that's what he wanted
to know. Looks like Jason B has

1020
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:38,439
a question for you, and that
question is and this is a question that

1021
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,239
it's a take it or leave a
question. There's no pressure to answer this

1022
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,239
or any other questions that I throw
at you, but I'll put it out

1023
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:50,720
there for you to decide. His
question is are your parents Christian? Yes?

1024
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,920
They are. Yeah, I was
raised in a Christian household. Yeah,

1025
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,199
it's actually my mom is really the
one who. My mom was the

1026
01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:01,840
most about person I'd ever known.
She passed away when I was eighteen years

1027
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,239
old in training for boot camp but
she was the most devout person I ever

1028
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:09,079
knew, and it was largely because
of her that I was brought to the

1029
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:14,640
faith myself. And even now my
stepmom my dad has since remarried. She

1030
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,960
is a very good Christian woman as
well, So that's great. Looks like

1031
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:27,159
Janee Qtec wants to make sure that
you know that she's thanking you for answering

1032
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:30,279
her question. And then also she
said, amazing, once in a lifetime

1033
01:15:30,319 --> 01:15:36,680
experience. Some people might not say
amazing, they might describe it a different

1034
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,960
way, but yes, for most
people, for most eye witnesses, it

1035
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,520
is a once in a lifetime experience. Thank Goodness for that too, Definitely

1036
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:51,279
goodness. Harvest Mary Moon wants to
know do dog mean attack people and what

1037
01:15:51,319 --> 01:15:57,479
do they eat? I'm going to
answer that question for you, Harvest Mary

1038
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,720
Moon by saying, over the years
I've been doing this, since two thousand

1039
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:06,920
and seven, I have spoken with
thousands upon thousands of dogmen eyewitnesses. Think

1040
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:13,560
about that number and the grand total
of credible eyewitnesses who've ever told me about

1041
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,520
being harmed. Intentionally harmed by a
dog man is a whopping? Are you

1042
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:23,880
braced and ready for it? Six
or seven? Maybe might be eight.

1043
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:30,880
But when on one side you weigh
that big number, the pull of thousands

1044
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,920
upon thousands, with how many have
actually been intentionally harmed six, seven,

1045
01:16:35,159 --> 01:16:41,800
maybe eight, that should tell you
everything about the mindset of these guys.

1046
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,760
Again, I'm never going to say
that dog men are safe to be around,

1047
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,479
because yeah, I mean, you
name the critter out there that doesn't

1048
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:54,560
have any deviant examples. They're dangerous
camels or horses or pigs or goats that

1049
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,520
will kill you if they get the
opportunity to do that, and if they

1050
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,159
have the ability, if they're big
enough to do that. But why should

1051
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:04,319
dogmen be any different. Yes,
you are going to have dangerous assuatch dangerous

1052
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:10,359
dog men, But when you look
at the big picture, you're talking about

1053
01:17:10,359 --> 01:17:15,600
a guy here who's spoken with thousands
upon thousands of eyewitnesses. So many of

1054
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,920
those have been in very compromising circumstances, situations where the dog men that they

1055
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,359
encountered, if that dog man wanted
to wipe them off the face of the

1056
01:17:25,399 --> 01:17:29,239
earth, it could have done that
easily. But yet they're allowed to leave

1057
01:17:29,319 --> 01:17:32,600
the encounter without a single scratch.
So that right there tells me that no,

1058
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,640
I have not spoken with every dog
man eyewitness out there. No,

1059
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:40,600
I never have claimed to. But
when you look at that number, the

1060
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:45,520
sample size that I've dealt with over
the years, and can honestly say that

1061
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,840
only six seven, maybe eight credible
eyewitnesses so I've spoken with have ever reported

1062
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:56,319
being harmed. That right there does
tell me definitively these guys are not wired

1063
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,600
to rip you apart on site the
way so many people out here are trying

1064
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,640
to portray them as having that mindset. If that was the case, then

1065
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:12,680
the numbers I've been seeing again,
thousands upon thousands over here on one side

1066
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:16,159
the pool sample size, and then
on this side over here, how many

1067
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:21,720
have been attacked? Six seven,
maybe eight out of that pool of people

1068
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:28,239
that I've spoken with. So that's
why I say on so many shows that

1069
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,680
these guys clearly are not wired to
rip you apart on site. It seems

1070
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,920
like they're mo is just to try
and get a rise out of you.

1071
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:40,960
Unfortunately, well that's a lot better
than them trying to rip you apart.

1072
01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:45,720
But it's unfortunate that they can ruin
so many lives by just trying to terrorize

1073
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:53,880
people the way they do. It's
really unfortunate. All right moving forward,

1074
01:18:54,880 --> 01:19:00,479
it looks like Kate Smith is another
comment she's saying. I think if they're

1075
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,920
hungry enough, they'll lead anything.
But that's the thing, though, Key,

1076
01:19:04,039 --> 01:19:09,680
these guys don't have any trouble feeding
themselves. If you think mountain lions

1077
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,319
have earned the moniker, have earned
the nickname, I should say deer killing

1078
01:19:13,399 --> 01:19:16,920
machines. These guys make mountain lions
look like rank amateurs when it comes to

1079
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,479
hunting deer. They do not have
any trouble feeding themselves. They're so much

1080
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:28,399
faster than deer. I mean,
there's so much more powerful than mountain lions.

1081
01:19:29,159 --> 01:19:33,560
They have weaponry that just goes so
far and beyond what anything out there

1082
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:38,359
can match. They do not have
trouble feeding themselves. I think that's one

1083
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:42,640
of the biggest reasons why they like
to torment people so much. They spend

1084
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,159
so little time out of their day
feeding themselves. That leaves them with so

1085
01:19:46,279 --> 01:19:51,359
much time left over. They've got
to do something with all that time.

1086
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,840
As intelligent as they are, I
can only imagine how bored they get,

1087
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,439
so I think to pass the time, that's a reason behind a lot of

1088
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,239
these encounters. They're just messing with
people to kind of entertain themselves in my

1089
01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:09,319
opinion. Again, I could be
totally wrong on that, but that's just

1090
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,560
why I think they do it so
often. And then it looks like Kate

1091
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,359
does have a question, and that
question is I wonder if dogmen mate for

1092
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:21,880
life or are the horn dogs?
Well, yes, again, that's another

1093
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,239
question that I don't think we're ever
going to know the answer to, and

1094
01:20:26,319 --> 01:20:32,760
thank goodness for that. Yeah,
definitely. And then it looks like fiber

1095
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:39,119
Geek has a comment, and that
comment is I've heard the white slash gray

1096
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:44,560
space in your dreams are the fifth
dimension slash density? Well, yeah,

1097
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,079
that might be no idea, though
we're probably never going to know the answer

1098
01:20:48,079 --> 01:20:53,880
to that either. Ranting Greek gamer
wants to know Cody was Golden Eyes,

1099
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:59,920
a tall creature and was the hostile
Initially. Initially he was not tall.

1100
01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:01,800
No, I gauged he was about
four feet tall. As an adult,

1101
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,640
I gaged he's probably about seven feet
tall. And when I first met him

1102
01:21:06,119 --> 01:21:10,600
face to face, he definitely,
you know, he buried his teeth and

1103
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,680
he growled at me because he was
sitting in the corner licking his wounds,

1104
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,880
and his fur all puffed up.
His tail got all puffy. He didn't

1105
01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:21,800
really exhibit any hostility beyond that.
And then once I you know, if

1106
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,760
you remember the story, I gave
him a couple of rolls of summer sausage

1107
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:29,039
from my dad's fridge that was in
the barn there, and after that,

1108
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:30,880
you know, he stopped growling,
but he still kept his eyes on me,

1109
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:34,159
like I'm watching you. Don't do
anything stupid, you know. So

1110
01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:39,760
that that made me pretty fearful,
even when I went to try and help

1111
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,520
him clean him up, you know, because he started to growl a little

1112
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,880
bit again when I went towards him, but I was able to keep him

1113
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,479
calm and show him I'm not doing
anything. I'm not going to hurt you.

1114
01:21:49,039 --> 01:21:51,880
And then after helping him out,
you know, there was no more

1115
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,960
growling. There was none of that, So no hostility after that. The

1116
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,000
most extensiveness of him being hostile was
just the growling to show like, hey,

1117
01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:02,520
don't do anything, you know,
and I didn't. So the fact

1118
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,640
that you were nervous, that you
were on edge, that shows you have

1119
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,600
common sense. If you're that close
to a dog and then you're not on

1120
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:15,119
edge, something isn't right. All
right, I've got a question for you

1121
01:22:15,159 --> 01:22:19,319
from g Black Sheep, and their
question is could it have been a bigfoot

1122
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:26,560
with a wolf fur over its head? Maybe a shaman class. I don't

1123
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,199
really know much about sasquash. You
might, you definitely have more knowledge on

1124
01:22:31,239 --> 01:22:34,079
that than I do, Vic,
but I don't think he was. I

1125
01:22:34,119 --> 01:22:38,960
think he was definitely, after all
these years, after hearing all these things,

1126
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:45,520
I think he was one dog man. He didn't he looked like when

1127
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,399
he was young, he looked like
a coyote that stood on his hind legs

1128
01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:49,920
from time to time. You know. When he was an adult, he

1129
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,600
looked like a big wolf with a
humanoid body. I don't think he was

1130
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,359
a bigfoot. I think he was
a dog man. Yeah, if it

1131
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,880
was a bigfoot, even with some
kind of a fur cloak over it,

1132
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:05,960
wolf skin or something like that,
you would know it. You wouldn't mistake

1133
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,920
it for a bonafide dog man.
So it would have to be a huge

1134
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:14,199
wolf cloak too. Plus he had
a tail. I've never heard of a

1135
01:23:14,199 --> 01:23:17,399
sasquash story having a tail. No, But even if it was a wolf

1136
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:23,399
for a wolf hide and it had
the tail attached, a sasquatch isn't going

1137
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,439
to be able to wrap that around
itself and make you think it's a bonafide

1138
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,840
dog man. So oh, sure
you saw what you saw and that's all

1139
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,880
there is to it. Because I
touched him, you know he was.

1140
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:38,239
There was nothing loose about him,
so he didn't have anything one. Oh,

1141
01:23:38,399 --> 01:23:43,319
definitely. And it looks like I've
got another question from Clay not Nalou,

1142
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,560
and their question is I'm interested if
Type three dog men are able to

1143
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:51,039
walk on all fours where they see
it on all fours. I don't know

1144
01:23:51,079 --> 01:23:57,439
of any encounters where eyewitnesses have reported
seeing them walking on all fours. They

1145
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:02,279
do have hominid style legs instead of
digit great style legs, So I guess

1146
01:24:02,319 --> 01:24:08,279
it's still possible. Since sasquatch can
walk quad repeatedly, why shouldn't these guys

1147
01:24:08,279 --> 01:24:11,800
be able to? But I don't
know that for sure. I'm not going

1148
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,039
to guess. All I can do
is just tell you that over all the

1149
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:19,760
Type three eyewitnesses I've spoken with,
I don't think I've ever been told about

1150
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:25,840
seeing one about them ever seeing one
walking on all fours. So that's a

1151
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:30,279
good question, really good question.
And then blood Vipa is saying, asked

1152
01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:34,800
three times now vick Ivin. He's
laughing while I apologize. I still haven't

1153
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:41,000
seen your question, and I'm going
question by question that's in bold type,

1154
01:24:41,079 --> 01:24:44,800
so I don't know what's going on, but I haven't seen your question.

1155
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:50,319
And then it looks like Michigan mediator
wants to know how high did it jump

1156
01:24:50,359 --> 01:24:55,560
to get onto your roof? Ah, that's a good question. You know,

1157
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,760
I live in a If anybody that's
listening lives in Florida, you know

1158
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,039
exactly what I mean when I say
I have just a small, single story.

1159
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,439
You know, blockhouse is stuck online. It's not a big house,

1160
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,520
it's not tall, it's just a
single story. I would guess maybe ten

1161
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:15,680
or eleven feet that's my estimate,
which is a good jump for it to

1162
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,920
get all of its body up there. That's an impressive jump, especially when

1163
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,000
it's as heavy as it is.
But yeah, these guys can jump like

1164
01:25:21,039 --> 01:25:28,239
it's going out of style. So
that's pretty typical. Mona Gregory wants to

1165
01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:30,199
know, and this is more of
a general question. Have you seen dog

1166
01:25:30,279 --> 01:25:33,920
men travel in a group? My
husband saw three of them here in Alaska.

1167
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:41,800
And to answer that, credible eyewitnesses
have reported seeing groups of dog men.

1168
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,039
But I think that's definitely the exception
and not the rule. And I'll

1169
01:25:45,079 --> 01:25:51,520
tell you why wolves operate in numbers
out of necessity to dispatch the prey they

1170
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:57,920
go after, it's going to require
either the power that the wolf pack brings

1171
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,359
or their ability to run relays and
tire the game because the game is too

1172
01:26:02,399 --> 01:26:06,199
fast for just one wolf to dispatch. But with dog men, they can

1173
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:10,840
catch anything they want to catch because
they have the speed outrun anything they're going

1174
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:15,720
to try and pretty upond. And
then also they have the power to take

1175
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,479
down anything by themselves that they're going
to try to take down, even bison.

1176
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:25,680
So when you look at that,
coupled with the fact that a mature

1177
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,560
dog man's daily CLOrk requirements must be
ridiculous as big as they are, So

1178
01:26:30,079 --> 01:26:33,800
if that's a case, it wouldn't
make sense them being obplicate carnivores. On

1179
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:38,359
top of that, for them to
operate and hang around in numbers, they

1180
01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:43,479
would deplete the resources in any particular
area almost overnight if they did hang out

1181
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,119
in numbers instead of a loan.
So that's why, in my opinion,

1182
01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:50,760
it just makes total sense that if
they do come together, it's on very

1183
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,760
rare occasions. Well, having said
that, it's about time for us to

1184
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,399
get out of here, Cody,
But before we do, do you have

1185
01:26:58,399 --> 01:27:01,039
any closing comments you like to put
up there for us. I just want

1186
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:04,880
to say thank you again to everybody
for the support you've given me, both

1187
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:09,520
from the previous time I was on
in this time, and I really hope

1188
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,680
that we all are able to remember
Vick's words should we encounter something like this,

1189
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,439
Should anyone out there encounter something like
this again, that you know they're

1190
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:25,239
not They don't seem to be high
wired to hurt kill people, you know,

1191
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:29,199
you know, just remember that it's
a it's all for show. They're

1192
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:31,159
just trying to scare you, get
their fun out of you. And please

1193
01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:35,640
don't take the measures that I did
at first this last week. Please try

1194
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,520
to try to get some help if
you can, and make sure that you

1195
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,680
deal with it in a healthy way. That's all very well said, And

1196
01:27:44,279 --> 01:27:46,880
like I told you at the end
of that conversation Tuesday, I'll tell you

1197
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,920
again if you ever need help,
If you have any other encounters, for

1198
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:55,079
example, and need help dealing with
them, I'm not going anywhere just like

1199
01:27:55,119 --> 01:27:58,920
you did before. Please let me
know because you're never going to be alone

1200
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,680
in this And for everyone out there
listening, thank you so much for helping

1201
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,159
eyewitnesses the what you do. I
mean, this is a perfect example.

1202
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:11,880
You listen to Cody talk about how
much your support helped him, Well,

1203
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,359
this is just a repeating thing.
If you only knew how many eyewitnesses have

1204
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:19,680
told me how much your support has
helped them. I can't thank you enough

1205
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:24,199
for doing that, for listening to
the show, for supporting these eyewitnesses.

1206
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,079
Again, I can't thank you enough. And if you've had an encounter with

1207
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:30,760
a dog mean that you would like
to talk with me about there's no requirement

1208
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,760
ever to come on the show and
share it publicly. Then yeah, by

1209
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:40,560
all means, just go to Dogmancounters
dot com and submit a report and I'll

1210
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,640
be more than happy to schedule a
good long phone conversation with you. If

1211
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,920
you have had an encounter and you
would like to also come on the show

1212
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:53,159
and put it out there for all
the listeners as well, we can definitely

1213
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:57,239
do that too, But that's totally
up to you if we take it to

1214
01:28:57,319 --> 01:29:00,359
that step or not. But having
said that, Cody, thanks again so

1215
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:05,039
much for coming on and sharing this
latest experience with US, I really appreciate

1216
01:29:05,079 --> 01:29:09,840
it, appreciate you Vic. Thanks
for having me again. Well you know

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you're welcome. Thanks again for your
time and have a great night.