WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:39.880 Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, how 2 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:44.960 are you? Come on? Name and have a seat. Today is past 3 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:50.799 President Future And I say that because you know we go to these tours, 4 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.240 these are Earth Ancients tours. We're going to be in Egypt in a few 5 00:00:54.280 --> 00:01:02.079 weeks on our fifth annual Grand Egyptian Tour, and on a number of the 6 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:07.799 sites we visit, most notably Sikara, there are buildings that have been specially 7 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:15.519 designed for healing. In fact, at Sakara, there is a portion of 8 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.879 a building that's still standing. They call it the hospital. And they call 9 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:26.200 it the hospital because there's a series of examining rooms and that's when you first 10 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:32.959 walk into the main portion of the hospital, and then along the sides are 11 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.599 what can only be described as acoustic chambers. And when you go to these 12 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:46.439 rooms, there's only a portion of them that are still standing. And if 13 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:51.400 you happen to walk into one of these rooms and stick your head into what's 14 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:57.920 left of them is not only is it it reflects your voice sound, but 15 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:07.000 also there's a strain, thumping noise that is emitting from deep underground. And 16 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.120 you know, to my frustration, no one has done any ground penetrating radar 17 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:17.039 in that area to discover if it's a mechanism of some kind or it's a 18 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:23.439 water delivery system that's making the stumping noise. But what we do know from 19 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:30.319 the eons of people who have lived there is that that was a healing hospital, 20 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:38.879 some form of an acoustic sound capturing system. We don't know exactly what 21 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:43.360 kind of healing was taking place. You know, there's a lot of discussion 22 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:51.400 about you know, everything from cancers to other degenerative disease, and as the 23 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:57.840 centuries passed, this knowledge was lost and all we have is the remaining buildings 24 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:05.120 where these treatments and that's what we'll call these sound healing acoustic healing rooms are 25 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:09.400 that we'll call them treatment rooms. Well, when we hear that, you 26 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:15.520 have to wonder what was the background, what was the thought behind that, 27 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:22.439 Who were the people who were doing the healing work, where the physicians were 28 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:28.199 the priests. Was the healing method something that we can relate to, or 29 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:32.599 is it so advanced that people were left in the room and then acoustics were 30 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:38.439 passed through the bodies of people. We just don't know. We see the 31 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:45.360 same thing in Mexico at some of these big temples that are acoustically tuned. 32 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:52.479 People have done acoustic testing and they amplify sound in certain ways. We see 33 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:59.919 this also in Europe. We see it at Stonehenge in England, we see 34 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:05.159 we see it in Scotland. We see it everywhere, including China, where 35 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:12.840 a great deal of effort and research and research and development was placed on healing 36 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:17.519 through sound or acoustic waves, and we're kind of understanding it a little bit 37 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:24.800 today. Acoustic wave therapy is used for people with ed and other parts of 38 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:32.680 the body that have calcium deposits in arteries or in vessels, and that's treated. 39 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:38.600 I'm not sure what else they use that, But my guest today is 40 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:43.600 old school. She's part Native America, and she has written a fascinating book 41 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.519 that is one of the better books that I've read in many years. Sound 42 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:54.879 healing is not unknown, but it's not something that you'll get at your local 43 00:04:55.600 --> 00:05:00.360 allopathic doctor, your local MD medical doctor. They don't have a clue. 44 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.600 They have no clue on subtle energy work, they have no clue on nutrition 45 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:13.240 and vitamin therapy. They can suggest occasional treatments, but for the most part, 46 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:17.639 it's not recommended by their administrators. You're not going to go to a 47 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:25.240 doctor and get a therapy on healing through sound. It's not something that you 48 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.319 should even consider. You need to go to an alternative therapist for that kind 49 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:36.480 of work. But my guest today has written her personal history. Her name 50 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:45.879 is Vicky Dodd. For fifty years she has been treating people through sound acoustic 51 00:05:46.360 --> 00:06:11.680 therapy. Now that's the sound of a reminder that And you know it's funny 52 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.800 because we've had I think three or four books like that like this this year, 53 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:20.519 where they are so well written and so important that they are must have, 54 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:26.759 must buy one for your library books, and this is one of them. 55 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:30.199 It just came out, and I mentioned that it just came out a 56 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:36.639 few weeks ago, Healing through Sound, Awakening your Audible Body, And you 57 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:41.319 can get it on Amazon, you can get it wherever you get your favorite 58 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:47.480 books. It's very well written, easy to understand, and as you'll hear 59 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:55.639 in this interview today, very important for what I would call basic body tuning. 60 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:01.759 And it gets into some of the most basic healing sound technology that you 61 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:12.160 can imagine everything from humming to chanting on yourself, on your self. So 62 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:21.879 you're gonna get the full spectrum of healing today and thankfully Vicky is also demonstrating 63 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:26.720 some of these techniques that you can use at home. So today's program is 64 00:07:27.160 --> 00:08:11.680 Healing through Sound, and my guest is Vicky Dodd. We travel to Egypt 65 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.480 every year and it is an amazing tour that we do. We're gonna be 66 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.720 doing our fifth annual and one of the things that I learned through our interpreter, 67 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:30.000 Mohammad Imbrahem, is that the ancient Egyptians used sound frequencies for some form 68 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:37.000 of healing. We discovered this in Sakara, at what they call the hospital. 69 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:43.399 There were these chambers that they would send acoustic sound waves through to heal 70 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.799 people. And this is an art that we have lost. This is something 71 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:54.039 that is slowly being realized in the last few decades, and today we're going 72 00:08:54.120 --> 00:09:01.039 to speak with someone who is using sound healing in a beautiful way. My 73 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:07.200 guest today is Vicky Dodd. She has written what I have to say is 74 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:15.159 a profoundly well researched and well written book called Healing through Sound Awakening your Audible 75 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:22.120 Body. And what makes this book not only important for each of our libraries, 76 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:31.159 but revolutionary, is that she shows us how to work audibly in healing 77 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:37.519 ourselves, healing those around us, but coming into balance. I think most 78 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:45.559 of us are out of balance, and this is a great book for rebalancing 79 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.840 it as well as enjoying our physical bodies. So, hey, Vicky, 80 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.720 welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on the program. Thank you, 81 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.639 Thank you, Cliff. I'm so grateful to be here to be meeting you. 82 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:05.000 The book opens with you as a young child, surrounded by the neighbors 83 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.960 and your mother, and your grandmother was a big influence in your life. 84 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:18.159 But you describe yourself as kind of a country woman. You don't phrase it 85 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:22.559 as a as a as a Native American. It seems like there's a native 86 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.480 Native America influence. Are you part Native American? Yeah, part Shawnee. 87 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:33.879 Uh. We were called Irish Indian, so we were nearly everyone I knew 88 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.320 was part Shawnee and from the you know, the Ohio Valley, coming through 89 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:43.200 the Ohio River and to the Mississippi, and so yeah, you know, 90 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:48.279 my grandma was nearly full blooded Shawnee. Oh there you go, my mother's 91 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.080 mother. But it wasn't you have to well maybe you might remember, but 92 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.679 it wasn't a good idea at the time to talk about being a Native American, 93 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.240 right, it was not a good idea at all. You know, 94 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.799 it was mainly dirty jokes, and yeah, it was so no one bragged 95 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:11.960 about it, and it was kept kind of secret. Talk about your grandmother. 96 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:20.279 She was the healer, and you actually describe her one day a healing 97 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.279 a wart on the inside of her mouth. That was Grandpa Baggot on the 98 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:30.879 Hill. And that was her full Grandma Baggot on the Hill. And she 99 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.519 was not she was not my personal grandmother, but she was everybody's Grandma Baggot 100 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.159 on the Hill. Oh, I got you, yeah, yeah, and 101 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.320 uh yeah. She she was always known to be able to She was a 102 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.799 good remover of obstructions. And what she did was help. She would remove 103 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:54.080 warts, she would remove afflictions, you know, and said to ask her. 104 00:11:54.159 --> 00:12:01.000 And and anyway, we were trying to become more fluent, I guess, 105 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.840 you know. We had a doctor come to town, and so all 106 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:07.600 of a sudden we could go to a doctor, you know, instead of 107 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:13.840 Grandma Reister and her Grandma bagged There was a lot of Grandma's and so we'd 108 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.080 gone to see doctor John and he had looked at this word that I had 109 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.639 inside my mouth, and he said, well, you know, we're going 110 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.080 to have to take you to Evansville, which was about an hour and a 111 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.559 half two hours away, to have it surgically removed. Oh. We hadn't 112 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.200 even been doctoring, and now they're talking about taking us to the hospital. 113 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:37.159 So this is absolutely beyond our comprehension or comfort. And we get to the 114 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:43.080 it's a small little town I'm from, and get to the corner and there's 115 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.080 Grandma bag It on the hill and my mother's telling her about this, and 116 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.679 she says, honey, let me see that. And I just pulled my 117 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.600 lip down. I'm about four or five years old, and she goes and 118 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.759 she just patted me on the shoulder, which you know, neuraled linguistic programming, 119 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.799 which we didn't know a thing about it at that time, is honey, 120 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.840 you won't have that tomorrow. And tomorrow came and I didn't have it, 121 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.360 and we just met, well that's thanks, grandma, you know. 122 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:13.559 And it was just very casual, the way part of life, part of 123 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.919 life, which is which is when you're plugged into the earth. Yes, 124 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.080 that's the way it is, right. Yes, it was not magic. 125 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.639 It was not unusual. It was not you know, we didn't let make 126 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.799 anything of it. She did not become a saint. She was just grandma 127 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.960 bagged on the hill, and that's what she did. She helped remove up 128 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:39.279 you know warts. I love those stories of natural healing. And of course 129 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.200 you can't define it. You don't want to try to analyze it because it 130 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.559 doesn't fall within any kind of language. There's no language we have that describes 131 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:52.000 it. Tell us about your realization that you were very sensitive as a young 132 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:58.200 person, you know, I mean you you say when you became I think 133 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.879 it was sixteen or seventeen, that you just want to die. Oh you 134 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.919 just were so you had either no direction or there was a turning point in 135 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.440 your life, and you talk about this. I'm very interested in this. 136 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.759 Well, you know, by that time, by the time I was sixteen 137 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.080 or seventeen, now my family had moved to a very large city, Chicago, 138 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:26.919 and so now there are millions of people to be able to try to 139 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.159 filter through me. I didn't have any boundaries. I did not know a 140 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:33.120 thing about having boundaries. I did not know how to stay out of your 141 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.360 business. I didn't know what was my business. I didn't know what someone 142 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:43.240 else's was. I didn't know a thing, and so I was just bombarded 143 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.360 with you know, by the time I would get from one my house or 144 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.679 apartment to the subway or the bus, you know, I'd already you know 145 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.480 you're going through. You've lived in big cities, and many of us have. 146 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:58.519 There's a lot of life, and there's a lot of people that are 147 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.320 homeless. There's a lot of people that have all kinds of mental problems, 148 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:05.720 you know, you know, because we've turned them out on the streets without 149 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.840 having any support. Well that's another story, but problems, and I did 150 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:18.039 not know how to not take it on, and so that became That became 151 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.360 my life work is learning about how one to know my own sounds, my 152 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.120 own rhythms, which is I think that's where we begin. Let me know 153 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:33.360 what is mine, and then I can stay out of yours. If I 154 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:35.559 don't know what is mine, then I have no way of staying out of 155 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:41.720 yours. Will you say to find that a little more for us? Would 156 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.159 you say that you were like a sponge to other people's energy, and you 157 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:52.519 just naturally wanted, not knowingly, were absorbing and picking up on their frequencies, 158 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.919 right I didn't know how not to. And I think that's true for 159 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:03.840 a lot of people that are lairvuoyant or are able to perceive frequencies. I 160 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.519 think that that is something that we all start with and then we have to 161 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:14.039 learn how to have any kind of discernment and uh and basically to make it 162 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:18.399 not sound rude, but I had to learn what wasn't any of my business? 163 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.399 And that's that's it's not you know, So thank goodness, I made 164 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:27.200 it, made this work my profession at a very young age, and so 165 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:33.000 that I got to be of service if you wanted me to be of service. 166 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:40.200 And I started having wonderful mentors that taught me that you waited till you 167 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.120 were asked. You did not you did not just go, oh, let 168 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:48.159 me help you, you know. And and it's like, no, this 169 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.399 is this is a personal privacy, you know, it's none of my bi 170 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.240 I had to start learning what was my business and what was not my business? 171 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:00.360 What was I to attend to and what was I not to attend into. 172 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.640 It's not a heartless thing, but it's we do not want to take 173 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:10.079 other people's dignity from them, you know, if they're asking for help if 174 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.920 there's a need for it, but not to just bombard how you know, 175 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:18.119 you can tell when someone's new to this energetic work because all of a sudden 176 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.279 they're working with everyone and everything, and it's like, wait a minute, 177 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.240 we need to ask permission. There needs to be some kind of protocol. 178 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:33.640 Yeah, how do we walk the earth and not pick up on others or 179 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:40.839 stay in our own presence? Yeah? I think that. I think that 180 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.359 first we need to learn what ours is. If I know what mine is, 181 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:51.119 what my frequency is, what space I occupy. It's a lot of 182 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.880 self work. It's an inside job. And you know, I'm laughing because 183 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.400 you said the magical word. It's a lot of work. It's a lot 184 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.079 of self work, a lot of self It isn't like, oh it took 185 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:06.920 a weekend. You know, it's a lot of work, over and over 186 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:11.720 and over. You know. Learning how, learning what you know, learning 187 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:17.799 how to stay out of your business was my biggest teaching because if you are 188 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:22.240 sensitive, if you are psychic, if you are able to perceive others, 189 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.200 if you've come from a lot of dysfunction, which is where a lot of 190 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.039 us got our training, because that was how we started learning how to protect 191 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:30.599 ourselves, what so and so was doing, what was behind us? You 192 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.720 know, you don't live in a big city without knowing. I need to 193 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.799 be able to have my feelers out around me, you know. So these 194 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:42.599 are actually good things, but they actually become obsessive too. Yeah, and 195 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.200 so first I need to know what is mine and I need to have some 196 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.599 form of practice that I work with, you know. And that's for me. 197 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.200 It's been my life. So it takes years and years and years, 198 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.440 and it's not like, well, I got it now, you know, 199 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.400 I'm fixed. Well it's funny because in your book you and actually in your 200 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:08.759 press release, you've been doing this for fifty years from a very very young 201 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:15.559 age. When did you uncover the healing practice of sound as it applies to 202 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:22.720 healing. Is there like an aha moment or did it just gradually attach itself 203 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:29.640 to you because you opened to it. That's a good question. I really, 204 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:34.880 I really don't know for sureclip I I know I was always able to 205 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:41.480 perceive frequency. I was always able to perceive rhythms from people's bodies or from 206 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:48.000 the land, or I was always able to see or fields, which is 207 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.079 also what made me sick, you know, because I didn't have any boundaries. 208 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.359 This is what I was kind of referring to a few minutes ago, 209 00:19:55.839 --> 00:20:00.000 is I didn't know what was mine, and so it once I started being 210 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.480 taught through all, you know, I was fortunate. I was coming to 211 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:10.400 waking up right at the beginning of the mind body explosion here in the United 212 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:15.359 States, and what a fortunate time. It was so exciting that we were 213 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:21.559 starting to actually acknowledge that there was a connection between our mind and our bodies 214 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:26.720 and other people on nature. And so it's a it's a life work. 215 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:34.200 I think I lost your question, though, When did you first uncover that 216 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:45.640 healing could be achieved through sound? Well, I I my first For about 217 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:49.240 ten years, I did sound mentally with people's bodies. When I was working 218 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:53.720 with them, I was about, what does that mean? I would image 219 00:20:53.799 --> 00:21:00.279 the sound as I was working with them, because I was really I didn't 220 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.759 have a voice. I had lost my voice years and years ago, and 221 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:10.839 it was so frozen from not expressing what I knewesting you know, it was 222 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:18.119 just absolutely frozen. You were embarrassed or just shy. Well, it kind 223 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:23.680 of sounded like I was crazy, oh, because you would do toning and 224 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.839 you didn't want to do it because oh I hear you. Yeah, I 225 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:33.279 mean you know, so I I and just given my environment, given a 226 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.400 woman, given the times, given that I didn't have any teachers, given 227 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:42.240 that I didn't know anyone else doing this, I just shut it down, 228 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:49.200 you know, my whole expressive center, this throat center, I just closed 229 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:56.920 it up. And and so I couldn't make any sound. I mean I 230 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.480 talked like that. Hope you cut that. No, you couldn't hear me. 231 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:08.440 Oh, but I could visualize this sound that I was mentally sounding before 232 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:12.920 it could go through the nervous system where it could go through the different channels 233 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:18.599 talk to different chakras. So it was helping me develop a very strong mental 234 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:25.680 body of visualization and trying to think. When I finally got brave enough, 235 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.839 probably maybe the late sixties or early seventies, I got brave enough to start. 236 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:33.839 You know, would you mind if I made a sound on your body? 237 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:40.599 You know, and you know, would that be okay? And this? 238 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.400 No, this was the very This was like nineteen eighty. I was 239 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:55.200 living in Chicago and renting an apartment and there was I think there were Polish 240 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:59.559 refugees because Chicago was loaded with refugees. It was a very exciting place to 241 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:06.839 be. And and and this my landlady had been in a concentration camp, 242 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:12.039 which I had not known. And so she started letting me give her bodywork 243 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:21.160 and in exchange for some of my rent. And so I'm working with her, 244 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.759 and I've said, do you mind if I make some sounds? And 245 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:26.680 by this time she just says, you know, I don't care what you 246 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.039 you know, very very Eastern European, I don't care what you do. 247 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:37.480 Just don't stop doing what you're doing, you know, and doing what you're 248 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.880 doing. And so I kept doing what I was doing, and I started 249 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.039 making these sounds, and all of a sudden she just started really really sobbing, 250 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.920 crying hard, not just little tears, which is not unusual when you 251 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:55.440 when you touch people. But and then she starts telling me this story which 252 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:59.640 still to this day Cliff just touches me so deeply, of being taken to 253 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.839 this I don't know. She didn't know either, some kind of room that 254 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.440 was filled with water up to her knees, that's what she remembered. And 255 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:11.799 it was dark, and it was crowded, and and I could only imagine 256 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.240 when she was saying that the kind of electricity just running through that water. 257 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.400 The terror because you don't know what's going to happen to you. You don't 258 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:19.920 know who you're with, you don't know what's in the water, you don't 259 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.839 know anything. And she said, there was this she and so that's what 260 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:27.000 when I was working in her and started sounding, she said, you're singing 261 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.960 her song. I'll always remember this. That just brings You're singing her song. 262 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:36.200 And then she starts telling me that story. How there is this woman 263 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:40.200 that she never did meet, and she was sounding, but I was sounding 264 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:45.279 mm. She says, you know, we didn't you know, we didn't 265 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.559 say and she had lost some toes, you know, she had lost some 266 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.920 some of her body parts being in that water for so long, but she 267 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:56.000 says, but we did not lose our sanity. Was that a death camp 268 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.480 that she was? So that was like one of the death camps in Germany 269 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:08.319 exactly. And so this was so again, this was a teacher. People's 270 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.440 bodies have been teachers for me. It's like, oh, all those memories 271 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.079 right there, let me just listen, let me just listen to what the 272 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.759 body wants to express. Now, I didn't know that she had been in 273 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.799 a death camp. I didn't know her story, but her body memory was 274 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.559 so needing to have another layer that moved, released, heeled, mended. 275 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:33.680 No, And yeah, that was a great learning tool. Oh my goodness, 276 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:38.960 gracious. Yeah, people's bodies have been my teacher. You mentioned in 277 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:45.039 a number of times throughout your book that the body is seventy plus percent fluid, 278 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:55.559 and talk a little bit about how sound heals and how the fluid is 279 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.279 kind of like a resonator. Well, you know, I don't know how 280 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.720 sound heals. I just know that it does. I just know that it 281 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:10.920 does. Mainly. It sound heals in so many possibilities. It creates movement 282 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:17.319 through this liquid. And we are seventy percent liquid. In the sixties and 283 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:19.599 seventies and eighties, it kept changing. We were seventy or eighty percent fluid. 284 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.000 It was according to what the decade was. And I don't know. 285 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:27.200 We may be losing our fluidity with being like you and I are right now 286 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:32.279 on computers and we're always on electronics. So we actually need to be doing 287 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:38.200 sound even more for our health to keep a resonance going in our body. 288 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:44.640 That is that equals health, keeping movement going through this fluid because it's so 289 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.119 easy for because the sound doesn't mean to it's not a bad thing, but 290 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.640 it congeals us. You know, I'm not sound, but our electronic world 291 00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:57.720 it starts creating a certain congealedness, you know, and to our liquid, 292 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.079 and you know, I don't know what was her name? Yeah, yeah, 293 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:07.000 I can't find it. I'll come back to it. But about stay 294 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:11.039 in liquid. We are seventy percent liquids. We used to be eighty percent 295 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:18.559 ken sau We want to stay liquid. Cliff sound helps us stay liquid faster, 296 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:23.599 more readily that we can depend on the nearly anything. So it's using 297 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:30.680 our voice is never contraindicated to anything else we're doing any other vitamins and medications 298 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:36.720 or disciplines. So it's a complimentary thing. It'll helps stay liquid. It 299 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:41.400 gets my circulation moving, it gets air moving, it gets my oxygen, 300 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.359 it wakes up the cellular system. So has nothing to do with being able 301 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:49.240 to be a singer. I don't know a thing about singing, but I 302 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:55.000 know a lot about sounding. So I can wake up, wake up, 303 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.720 what's tired. I can image the sound. I spend a lot of time 304 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:03.279 just imaging sound because I would be in places where I couldn't make an audible 305 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.880 sound, or I would take a cushion and I would sell. I would 306 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.680 sound through the cushion, you know, so because you know, I lived 307 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.759 in apartments a lot of my life where you know, my window here is 308 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.759 their window there? And and but I still needed to be moving, you 309 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.599 know. I needed to move my anger. I needed to move my frustration. 310 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.920 I needed to move my joy. I needed to express it, move 311 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:34.680 it through my body without feeling that someone was listening to me. Is the 312 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:45.240 Is the mental focused mindset sound as effective as actually audible sound? Oh? 313 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.799 I think so? So what do you We'll go through some exercises in a 314 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:53.319 minute, but you're thinking the sound and then you're sending it to someone for 315 00:28:53.400 --> 00:29:00.319 healing those No, well, I would only do that if they ask me 316 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.839 to. Oh okay, I mean seriously, I'm very very serious about that. 317 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:08.880 Okay, you know it's none of my business. That's what I had 318 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.519 to learn. Yeah, so they had to ask for a healing or ask 319 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:17.480 for you If they're asking me to do that, I would be gladly do 320 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:22.880 that. Yeah, but mentally sounding in which I did for years and years 321 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.079 and years, because really, when I was beginning this, I knew no 322 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:32.559 one doing sound as a body work. There might have been people more in 323 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:37.079 the twenties or thirties, but World War Two kind of closed us down to 324 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.559 so much of the wisdom that we knew prior to World War Two. And 325 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:47.759 so then in late by the late fifties or mid sixties, we were being 326 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.920 waking up. We were waking up again to what we had forgotten. That 327 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:57.920 generations or so before World War two had a beautiful, powerful amnesia effect on 328 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:06.119 our wisdom. And I have that fascinates me of how how strongly it brought 329 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.519 amnesia. Why would that be beautiful though? To forget? Well, I 330 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.160 don't mean beautiful to forget, but beautiful in the sense of like seeing the 331 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:21.440 power, seeing the power of fear, seeing the power of track trauma, 332 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:25.599 of what it can do, how it can create this amnesia like I don't 333 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:32.519 remember how to be well, I don't remember, you know, And so 334 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:37.920 sound helps us remember again what we forgot. That's one of its beautiful, 335 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:42.319 beautiful medicines. I want to ask you you you said something interesting and something 336 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:49.759 that I'm very concerned about. You say that the frequencies like WI FI are 337 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:59.759 microwave ovens. The frequencies that come out of monitors are are are thickening the 338 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.160 fluid? I think you use another term. Yeah, how I mean, 339 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.519 do you see this as a huge issue that we need to address. I 340 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:14.680 see that. I see it. Remember when, uh, with the first 341 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.039 home computers. Maybe you don't, you might be too young. But the 342 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.559 first home computers, they said you should not have a home computer, not 343 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.559 unless that you're by an open wind, you by a window with lots of 344 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:34.759 light. And within about two seconds we were all in little cubicles with flora 345 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:40.680 florescent lighting everywhere. And we have forgotten that. And then then there was 346 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:45.240 a thing called the ought Ott lamps that you should never have a computer without 347 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.759 an ought lamp, you know, And and then we forget it. We're 348 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:56.160 quick forgetters. So uh so we we initially know the importance of balancing the 349 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:01.240 contraindicated frequencies that might be coming in. How do we balance that or how 350 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:07.119 do we Yeah, and then we forget So we're you know, I just 351 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.519 used to have a teacher that would say, we're quick forgetters, and we 352 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.839 and so it's not about putting ourselves down. But I need to remember I'm 353 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:22.559 a quick forgetter, so I have to remember over and over again, remember 354 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.720 how to take care of myself. Oh, I've been on computer for a 355 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.599 few hours and I need to get out in the light somehow. Yeah, 356 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.240 well, so, I you know, I'm not going to I don't want 357 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.680 to get rid of any of these things that I've learned to enjoy and help 358 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.480 my life. But I also need to always respect that I need to balance 359 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:46.160 it with something else. No, intitively that they are sending energies that may 360 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:51.240 not be great for the body, so especially for the fluid system that can 361 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:55.759 get very congested and congealed. Yes, talk about why we should see the 362 00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.640 world as energy, and you're giving us a hint of it right now. 363 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:05.359 But when you write about this, you know, if we look at energy 364 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:12.200 as all around us, then there's something to be considered there. I'm not 365 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:17.319 quite sure if I remember what I said or why. Well, I'll continue 366 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.279 on with another This is a really important quote that I'm going to read that 367 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.160 you put in the book. All that has ever happened to us is recorded 368 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:34.720 in our bodies as frequencies. Yeah, talk about that. Well, life 369 00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:42.200 doesn't miss us, you know, No, I have been. You know, 370 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.240 anything anyone, anything that has happened to me, got recorded somehow in 371 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:51.799 this body. Now, how does that are you saying it's recorded as a 372 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.720 memory, that is, it could be bored in the physical fluid. It 373 00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.279 could be it could be all many many things. Oh, I know, 374 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:04.160 give us some definitions, Vicky, Like when you're saying that, somebody who's 375 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:08.519 like, how do I how do I visualize that? How do you visualize 376 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:14.599 it? Well, you started, you started what you were mentioning in all 377 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.519 those ways. Sometimes it's absolutely literal. You know that my shaping was was 378 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:25.079 affected, my posture was affected, my attitude was affected. You know. 379 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:32.719 Well, my life experience was was shaped by it. How I perceive life 380 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:38.519 was shaped by my life experiences, you know. And and then there's ways 381 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:43.239 that I can change that. But I can get different kinds of body works, 382 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.920 I can get kind of different kinds of therapies I can you know, 383 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.559 Yeah, I can get some self help. I can start changing my attitude, 384 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:57.119 you know, I don't have to be which a lot of us didn't 385 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.719 know for a long long time. This is why the mind body explosion was 386 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:06.599 so important. That there was a connection and that we could actually possibly ah, 387 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.280 change our future, you know, by under by healing our past. 388 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.880 And and so that was that was quite revolutionary. Instead of like, well 389 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:22.920 this is just how it is, you know, and I just resigned to 390 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.960 it, uh, which was a lot of my family's history. It was 391 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.679 like, I'm just that's how it is, you know, and and and 392 00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.599 a lot of it is true. You know, there's certain things that I 393 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.679 have. You know, if I only have one leg, then I have 394 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.639 to get get that. I have to get that. So now what do 395 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.760 I have to do? You know? So I have to accept what my 396 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.760 life has brought me. Yeah. Uh. As a healer, when someone 397 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.440 comes to you, Vicky and says, I'm just out of balance, I 398 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.599 don't feel good, I don't ache and it can you look at them and 399 00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.960 say, well, this is what I'm feeling. Is your issue or do 400 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.400 you need to do like a toning session to have an issue a physical, 401 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:14.480 mental, spiritual issue? Come forth as and define themselves. Oh it looks 402 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.159 it can clif, it can look a zillion different ways. You know. 403 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.440 Sometimes it's obvious just their posture. It's you know, they're all bent over. 404 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.440 They can't really you know, no wonder they're depressed, They can't even 405 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:30.199 get a breath, you know, and or they're ungrounded, they don't have 406 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.360 any they're not rooted into the earth. So some of it is just really 407 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.559 basic. So we start there, like, how how can I best start 408 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:44.920 educating support for this body, teaching this body how to have support, you 409 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:50.079 know, and for so many, so many of us are not taught how 410 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.480 to have support from the body. We're you know, we're not taught about 411 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.719 the pelvis, We're not taught about the feet, you know. I became 412 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:01.159 a body worker, you're you know, in the late sixties, I think, 413 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:08.639 a long time ago. Uh, but not because of any good idea. 414 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.679 I just needed it. I needed it, you know, because of 415 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.920 these sensitivities that we were speaking about earlier. It had really hurt my body, 416 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.719 hurt me a bit physically, hurt me emotionally, psychologically, you know, 417 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.079 wound up my nervous system, wound up my little intestines, wound up 418 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.000 my you know, my whole being, you know, because I didn't have 419 00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.840 I didn't have a clue of how to take care of myself. Yeah, 420 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:45.599 you know. Yeah, So so when I my first sound schools were about 421 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.960 people getting bodywork, about learning how to feed their bodies about I mean, 422 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.280 I was really so simplistic, but it wasn't about your sound, because your 423 00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:02.400 sound's only going to represent everything your being. So let's get your being working 424 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.440 for you. You know, let me start learning how to unconditionally love this 425 00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.480 body. And I don't mean like you should be eating this way or that, 426 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:15.519 but you need to learn how to feed oneself healthily. And a lot 427 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.280 of us were never taught that, you know, we weren't taught what the 428 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:24.440 body needs, and not in the sense of another diet, not about diets, 429 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.559 but about like what is nutritional nutritional for my body. So, I 430 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.599 mean, I'm a very basic person, and I was very fortunate that I 431 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.360 was born where I was born, and that I was raised with people who 432 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:44.719 still had a connection to nature and still had a connection to what you eat 433 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:52.519 actually influences how you think, you know and how you feel. I don't 434 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:53.679 know if that's not what you were asking me though, but no, it 435 00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:58.199 is good because you brought up some good points. You as a child were 436 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.239 brought up with people who were very connected to the earth. Yeah, and 437 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.920 yeah, and you even describe we talked about it earlier. How when the 438 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:15.880 medical the doctors came in. It was like you were giving up something to 439 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.440 go to this doctor because it wasn't necessarily natural, and people got sicker and 440 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:27.159 sicker with the doctor's treatment where and this is what's happening today and with allopathic 441 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.039 medicine. They don't know any better other than to give you a drug, 442 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:36.320 cut you open, or if you have a cancer, irradiate you, which 443 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.119 seems so out of touch with Gaya. You know, this is why I 444 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:46.360 have a huge problem with today's medicine. We're going to take a short break 445 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:52.800 and allow our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly with my guest 446 00:39:52.880 --> 00:40:01.320 today, Vicki Dodd discussing her newest book, Healing through Sound. We'll be 447 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:42.440 right back. My guest today is Vicki Dodd, who is a longtime healer 448 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.440 over fifty years of sound healing technique, who has written a new book called 449 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:52.719 Healing through Sound, Awakening your Audible Body. And we are getting a sense 450 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:58.599 of how this healing work is implemented and how we can help ourselves through this 451 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:06.400 healing method. You write about formulas, and one of the things I was 452 00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:12.679 curious about, how does the body reveal the formula for healing and you as 453 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:17.400 a healer. In your book, you talk about the ability to see somebody 454 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:25.320 and then maybe tone early, and then something comes up that you define as 455 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:31.679 the problem area. Talk about that. Well, you know, I'm not 456 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:37.920 quite sure which part you're you're speaking of, because maybe some parts of that 457 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:42.639 book. You know, I'm coming from decades, decades of working with bodies. 458 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.440 So it's it's not it's not like, well then do da da then 459 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:53.280 so, because it really is, it's decades upon decades of listening and listening 460 00:41:53.440 --> 00:42:00.599 and and and and basically, first with myself. That's where I began. 461 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:10.599 Yeah, I really when I first professionally got started studying to be able to 462 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:17.320 get licensed so I could be legal, so I could touch you. It 463 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.760 was all about this is way before the schools got all set up. It 464 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:28.599 was about learning how to work with ourselves. Let me learn how to, 465 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:34.360 you know, instead of instead of it being about how can I fix them? 466 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.480 How can I fix somebody else? It wasn't about that. It was 467 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.480 I need to if I know myself, well, if I keep working with 468 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.320 myself, if I keep doing you know, then you become pretty simple, 469 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.320 you know, because you and I are not going to be that much different 470 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.000 because I need to know about me. I need to know about this body, 471 00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.559 what happens. And I don't mean that we're the same in that way 472 00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.920 everybody else, but at the same time, were very we're more alike than 473 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:08.039 we're not. We're so much more alike than we're not. And but it 474 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:15.199 has to begin with me really learning how to unconditionally love this body. And 475 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:20.960 that's pretty that's deep work, that's a life work, as far as I 476 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.360 know, for myself anyway, you know. And I don't mean egotistically, 477 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.559 I mean just can I truly just be grateful for whatever that, for this 478 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.840 being that I am? And you know, you know, my prayer is 479 00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.800 constantly for years and years, is like, teach me, teach me, 480 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:44.960 teach me how to love you. I don't know how, you know, 481 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.000 you know, teach me how to unconditionally love this being that I am, 482 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.880 that I that I'm walking on this earth being and I'm calling myself, you 483 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.000 know, instead of and then you're not this, and then you're this, 484 00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.480 You're too fat, you're too skinny, you're too ug, you're oh, 485 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:06.280 you're if the only you know, you know, you know, teach me, 486 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.360 I don't know how I don't know how to love. So I just 487 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.480 need to get really really honest with myself, not putting it down, but 488 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.280 knowing that I wanted wanting to engage the inherent wisdom in me. So when 489 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.320 I'm working with someone else, all that I'm really They can tell me all 490 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:28.559 kinds of things, but really and we're often not very kind to ourselves about 491 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:34.440 ourselves. So I'm really wanting to engage that inherent wisdom in that person. 492 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.880 Let's talk to this person, you know, that's picture the inherent wisdom that 493 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:42.920 you are. You know, yeah, instead of the personality and this is 494 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.360 what's happened, and then you know, nothing wrong with that. But it's 495 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.320 not going to be the it's not going to be the place of the insertion 496 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:55.320 of the illness. Yeah. I was watching one of your videos on YouTube 497 00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:00.280 and it looks like and you're giving a gentleman a. It looks like a 498 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:06.039 little bit of body work and a lot of toning. How important is bodywork? 499 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.960 Oh? I think body works very important. I think we need to 500 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:16.840 be touched. I think we absolutely need to be touched and need to be 501 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:23.920 touched appropriately. I think we need to be I need to have someone that 502 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.400 wants to listen to what my body needs to have, needs to have expressed. 503 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.159 I think I wish all of us could afford body work, you know. 504 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:40.280 You know, we've really become almost for a lot of people were uh, 505 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:47.239 we've priced ourselves out of healing. You know. I'm fortunate that I 506 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.239 began so long ago that I can often trade with people. If I couldn't 507 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:53.960 trade with people, I don't know what I would do, you know. 508 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.400 And I understand that it's good work and we need to make a living. 509 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:01.960 But it's this I don't know. It's hard to find the right size, 510 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.639 isn't it? Yeah? It is, because you're right, somebody work can 511 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.760 be several hundred dollars, oh easly and for an hour and a half. 512 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:14.039 And U I mean, I have a person here that's one hundred and twenty. 513 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:19.599 But I get it once a mother's So it's so much is released, 514 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.760 so much is released. I'm so grateful to you that you're doing that. 515 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.079 I do too. I get I. Yeah, I'm going to get a 516 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:31.559 session on Friday, and I need it. Yeah, And it's not because 517 00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.199 it's not trying to fix me, but you know, you know, help 518 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.679 me keep moving moving. What it doesn't no longer needs to be there, 519 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.320 right, Help me remember who I am? Help me remember? Oh yeah, 520 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.320 honey, And like right now, you know, I've got this book 521 00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:51.760 coming out and I've been interviewed like I am right now, yaka yak. 522 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:57.320 And it's stressful. Yeah, I hope it's not too stressful. But I 523 00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.760 understand because you have to you have to bring the book up again, you 524 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.760 know. And what you just said was wonderful. You said, I have 525 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:08.599 decades of work that are in that book, and I can't remember every everything 526 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.960 that happened. I mean, I love that, but it's in the book. 527 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:20.599 It's decades and decades and decades, you know, and wonderful teachings for 528 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:25.199 me. Yeah, and the body and then the body became my major teacher. 529 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.840 I love that. I had to had to read more about that. 530 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.000 Let's let's talk about some of the applications. And you have a whole chapter 531 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:38.000 on humming. Uh, and I want to first hear about it, and 532 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.960 then I would like to do an example of that for our listeners. Okay, 533 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.840 do you mind if I have some water? Oh? Of course. 534 00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.800 Yeah. Humming. We all love humming. It's a part of just about 535 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:57.760 every sound. You make ah, there's a hum in it, you know. 536 00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:04.320 Yeah. And and I the vernacular where I grew up, he was 537 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:09.119 always hmm. You know, there was always a home. I don't know 538 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:14.360 about that hm you know, I mean just part of the languaging. And 539 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.440 so there was always at home and people were always humming a tune. So 540 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.039 I think that that's familiar for so many of us, so many of us 541 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.280 humming that tune in my head, you know, hmming that tune. Well, 542 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.320 the hum. Uh. The first time that I heard, I I 543 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.800 was it was brought to my awareness as a medicine that I hadn't thought about 544 00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.360 it as a medicine. I mean, I'm telling you about what my roots, 545 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.400 but I still didn't know it was a medicine. Was by a man 546 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:51.000 who started the first sound school that I know of anyway in this country in 547 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:55.480 Houston, Texas, I think in nineteen fifty eight or something like that. 548 00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:02.679 And uh, yeah, it's called the Center for Rational something Vibrational Movement. 549 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.440 And yeah, so there's nothing new under the sun at all. We all, 550 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.480 you know, when we discover it, we think we discovered she said, 551 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:17.039 we just now found out about it, you know. So it's good 552 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.840 to stay humbled a little bit, you know, knowing that we are just 553 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:27.199 standing on the roots of hundreds and thousands of years and different cultures forever and 554 00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.000 ever. Sound has been, voice has been, mantras have been, singing, 555 00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:38.760 has been, dancing has been the major medicines, you know. So 556 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:43.159 we just keep picking it up, picking it up, another, picking it 557 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.760 up another, not picking it up. What was your question, dear heart, 558 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:53.159 So talk about how humming it's an effective tool for healing because you have 559 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:58.599 a couple of h and those of you listening. If you go to YouTube 560 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:05.320 and go pipe and Vicki do O D D. She has two introductory humming 561 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.840 sessions that are about a minute or two minutes each where she demonstrates us. 562 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.320 But I want you to talk about this right now, Vicki, and then 563 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:16.440 give us a little demonstration of the simplicity of it, because it's much simpler 564 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:22.440 than I thought. It's so simple, yes, simple, the way that 565 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.719 I uh, the way that I well, one thing our body loves I 566 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:31.239 think this is my story anyway, our body loves the sound of our voice, 567 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.480 just loving on it, you know, just loving on it. And 568 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:45.239 the hum is such a beautiful hum hum hum. As soon as we start 569 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:50.079 humming, it gets that liquid, which we've already talked about in seventy or 570 00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:54.519 eighty percent that we're liquid. That's a lot of liquidity. So that that 571 00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:01.920 hum just organically loving, just gets that liquid moving through us. So it 572 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.280 helps us our circulation, it helps our digestion, It suthes our nervous system. 573 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:12.119 So it's not just a little lightweight thing we're doing. And I think 574 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.559 those a lot of us that had elders, or remember those elders, and 575 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:22.000 we go, you know, there was something in there. Maybe they didn't 576 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.960 know it, but there's an inherent knowing, there's an inherent knowing that it 577 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.800 was helpful for their digestion if nothing else, kept them being able to stay 578 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:36.320 in their bodies, if nothing else, you know, just like well anyway, 579 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:42.519 I've worked a lot with abuse, so with people with the home, 580 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:50.320 and so the home on a very practical level, it suthes our nervous system, 581 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:57.079 it helps us relax. I don't think that there's ever been a time 582 00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.639 in history that we didn't need that, but for sure we need it now. 583 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:12.320 You in your demonstration that I saw you use your name, Yeah, 584 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.440 and the one I liked was my name is Cliff. He was like Cliff 585 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:22.079 Cliff, Cliff clue. And then it's kind of revolving how long do we 586 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:30.360 do it doing? Are we looking for a sensitivity or just a practice. 587 00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.880 I think we're looking for practice, and you can do it as long as 588 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:38.800 you like, But basically I'm wanting to be able to do it so to 589 00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:45.320 the point where I actually can start feeling myself relax a little bit, that 590 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:50.360 I can start being soothed a little bit and being able to start remembering that 591 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.280 I am a body of frequency, I am a body of vibration, and 592 00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.159 and and that hum our, hum our speaking voice home can actually start waking 593 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:05.800 up those sluggish places, you know, you know, if I'm on the 594 00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:07.519 computer a lot, which we're all the computer a lot, and we watch 595 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:12.039 a lot of television, if we're in around a lot of electronics, which 596 00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.320 today, when when I first started teaching that it wasn't true, but today 597 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.199 it is. We're always we are never not away, you know, are 598 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.960 you ever more than a foot away from your phone? I mean, you 599 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:28.280 know, like we're always on it, so we actually need even more. 600 00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:31.480 I think of that kind of self care because this is just basic as I'm 601 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:36.679 going to consider it now one oh one self care let me haumme a little 602 00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.119 bit, and it doesn't take very long. And the way that I used 603 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:43.119 to teach it, or used to teach it, I still teach it that 604 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.119 way for someone who's never done it, so that it doesn't become like just 605 00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:50.800 a singing type thing. But we take our name, you know, like 606 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.000 you know, we got introduced when we first came on. My name is 607 00:53:53.039 --> 00:54:00.000 Vicky, and your so be right from that sound, right from that sound. 608 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.199 I'm not like I wouldn't want to try to change how you say your 609 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:08.320 name. It's your speaking voice, so that my body. So I'm not 610 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:12.880 needing to be a singer. I'm not needing to go my name is Vicky. 611 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.920 Hum no, no, my name's Vicky, and I would just start 612 00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.920 from Vicky Vicky, and then I know that I am a three dimensional body 613 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.199 and I know that I'm liquid. Now that may not mean a whole lot 614 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:29.320 initially, but what I'm trying to suggest here is that I'm wanting my sound, 615 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:36.239 my sound, my hum to be able to start embracing this three dimensional 616 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.400 body, my front sides and back, just that you know, not a 617 00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.480 linear movement. Knowing that i am a spiral. I'm curved. I look 618 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:49.800 at my fingerprints, I see the curve. I look at all my shapes. 619 00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.800 There's curves. I want to embrace that. I'm not wanting to put 620 00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:58.280 a straight line. I'm not trying to become an opera singer where I need 621 00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:00.559 to keep that pitch at a certain place. Can you give us an example 622 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:06.599 real short of introducing it and how how long we should hold it for? 623 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:12.079 I would love to. So, so we're in a circle, We're in 624 00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.559 a room, and and I say my name is Vicky, and I'm going 625 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:20.280 to do a hum with my name. So I say Vicky and then I 626 00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.800 let it get really messy in my mouth. You know, I've found students 627 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:27.599 say, oh, like it's putting your name into a blender, you know, 628 00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.360 and just blending it up until it's liquid and coming in. So come 629 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:45.880 like this, my name is Vicky, vickying you Now I can use my 630 00:55:45.960 --> 00:56:01.519 hands. I'm the head is a beautiful resonating chamber. Um umm, I'm 631 00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:07.679 that's just the beginning of just seeing the simplicity whatever your name is. That 632 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.000 people say I don't like my name, well then you don't have to use 633 00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:14.039 it. Find another name. It could be chair. There's not any magic 634 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:17.000 in the name at this point. There are many exercises where the name is 635 00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:22.400 important, not in this one. It's just it's just trying to be honest. 636 00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.039 It's like, all I'm trying to say is use your speaking voice, 637 00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.760 just the way that you would talk to me. Right now, what's happening 638 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.800 when this is going on? What do you suspect is happening? Well, 639 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.880 what I suspect and what I start experiencing is that I get more present in 640 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:43.719 me. It, yes, I get more present in me. It starts 641 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.360 moving my liquid. It literally starts moving the liquid, and I want to 642 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:52.639 keep my liquid moving again. I'm seventy eighty percent liquid. So much of 643 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:58.400 my life is sitting around on computers, sitting around with the television. Right, 644 00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:04.679 so I need to do more than I've ever done. Right, twenty 645 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:06.719 years ago, I didn't need to do it all the time. I need 646 00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:08.159 to do it a lot now. So I'm so even glad to even be 647 00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:14.320 having to talk about this stuff again so much because I need to be reminded. 648 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:19.360 Were quick forgetters. I know you mentioned that. So this is a 649 00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:23.280 self healing that's humming. It's so simple. And wonderful. It feels very 650 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.000 ancient to me for some reason, and I don't know why. Maybe it's 651 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.920 because I've been to these ancient lands and seeing these temples and pyramids and things. 652 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:38.719 Is there is there an an innate knowledge of the body going Okay, 653 00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:43.400 we're gonna hum because we gotta. We need to clear out this blockage, 654 00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.119 we needed to clear out depression. What would you say, Is it like 655 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:51.920 a self help tool, this humming. I think it's a beautiful self help 656 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:59.360 tool. I think it's absolutely essential to any other part of sounding. Often 657 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:01.960 it's a way all begin my sounding. It's always a way that I want 658 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.760 to end it, to integrate everything I have sounded, everything I've touched. 659 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:12.079 But it's such a soothing see. I just I know I'm speaking a lot 660 00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.480 today about soothing, but I just I just find that we're at such a 661 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.519 time where we just need to be soothed. You know, help me just 662 00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.760 soothe this body, soothe this nervous system. Help me get here, help 663 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:30.639 me get here, help me get here. You know, you also use 664 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:35.199 the word, and I love this. You use intention, so I am 665 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.559 intending for. I guess you could start it and I don't want to speak 666 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:42.559 for you. But I think it would be wonderful to start it humming by 667 00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.119 going I intend for this to work on this area or this area or this 668 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:51.400 area. I don't know. What do you suggest? Well, I never 669 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:53.679 worked that way. I never I worked with intention, but I don't work 670 00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:59.679 with it trying to tell it where to go. Okay. I basically I 671 00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:04.880 am earning over to that which is greater. I love that, Okay. 672 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.519 Yeah, And that's where I have to stay because the truth is, I 673 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:12.679 don't know what the problem is. I don't know what the problem is. 674 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.119 I know where I may be feeling some discomfort, I know where I'm feeling 675 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.559 pain or this or that, but but I don't necessarily know what the formula 676 00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.000 is going to show me afterwards. And that's what I talk about I think 677 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:28.960 in the book about formulas, is that that I don't know the formula before 678 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.400 I begin. That's why it's all about listening. You know, what what 679 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.039 what? What's what's calling me first? You know, and then it'll take 680 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:40.840 me to the next piece. So it's it's about sounding. Is more about 681 00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:46.280 listening than it is about sounding. And we can just do it, uh, 682 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:52.920 A toning or a humming for whatever length you're feeling that you need to 683 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:57.239 go, I guess, huh, yes, yes, or how much time 684 00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.840 you have. And you know, I used to love it when I would 685 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:06.119 have, especially my first ten or so twenty years of my first decade or 686 01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:12.159 two of working with some I would literally I had the privilege to almost set 687 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:16.360 aside a day that I could just empty and sound and move stuff and then 688 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:21.599 bring myself back into the hamming again and integrating and then you know, just 689 01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.000 you know, whatever wanted to keep bubbling up. That was a very very 690 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.920 wonderful time in my life because that was like being able to be in my 691 01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:35.119 laboratory and it started really teaching me. And then you know, through the 692 01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:40.480 years it changes and now within five ten minutes one can do a complete integration, 693 01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:47.039 or even maybe less time than that. You know, sound works so 694 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:51.679 quickly and with intention of what it. You know, please, you know, 695 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.639 I'm needing to be able to basically, my intention doesn't get much more 696 01:00:54.679 --> 01:01:00.920 than just let me be connected to that which is greater. The book's called 697 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:06.880 Healing through Sound, Awakening your audible Body. And my guess today has been 698 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:12.039 Vicky died. Vicky you mentioned and this is fascinating what you say here. 699 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:20.519 You say, whatever is unexpressed runs the show. And so if you have 700 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:24.320 a problem, there's something that's not being expressed. And then you in that 701 01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:29.800 same chapter you talk about when we need to be empty, and I guess 702 01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:35.599 empty is meaning tell me what does that mean? Empty is meaning when I've 703 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.440 got too much stress on me. I've got too many phone calls coming in, 704 01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:43.000 too many interviews coming in, too many people having trouble. I'm taking 705 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.760 on too much stuff. I'm too busy. When you hear me going I 706 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:51.119 don't have enough time, that basically is saying I need to empty. Okay, 707 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.360 it's not about them pressuring me. It's that I need to do some 708 01:01:54.480 --> 01:02:00.719 self work here and I'm needing to let go, you know, so that 709 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.559 makes some sense. So empty is just, you know, let me empty 710 01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:08.119 that which is no longer mine because I don't care how much work we do. 711 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:14.880 We were always exchanging energy with each other. Not that's not wrong, 712 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.639 but it isn't is that I need to be aware of or I'm in different 713 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.960 places, so I need to I need to that's part of self care. 714 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.000 Let me empty that which is not mine, and not like, well, 715 01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:29.719 that's negative that's where we were in the sixties and seventies. Well that's negative 716 01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:34.920 energy, you know. No, yeah, yeah, that we were just 717 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.239 so smart. So you know, it's not about that. It's just that 718 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.079 it's not mine or I need to move it up, or I need to 719 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:45.000 generate it, or it needs to get more liquid, you know, whatever 720 01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:52.000 it is, I'm needing to keep my liquidity. Hild the Guard day Bingham, 721 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.679 that was who I was thinking of. Do you know who? Yeah, 722 01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:00.400 held the Guard. That's an unusual name. It doesn't ring a bell 723 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.960 right now, but well, she was quite a mystic. I think it 724 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:08.400 was my eight hundreds, eight or nine hundreds, and she was an incredible 725 01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:17.400 mystic, healer, herbalist. She had the ear of the it's the pope 726 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:22.000 at the time. She was quite quite an influential person. Hill Deguard that 727 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:29.719 Bingham. She was also a composer, musician, and supposedly, I don't 728 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.960 know if this is true, but I love this story because she was She 729 01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:37.840 was a prolific writer, letter writer, and she would write to the Pope 730 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.960 of the day because she was really she They took advice from her, all 731 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.400 these higher up politicians and all, and she would end up with stay juicy 732 01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:52.440 hilde guard. Now we got we kind of smiled that today, but in 733 01:03:52.480 --> 01:04:00.079 that day it meant stay stay wet, stay stay liquid because liquid us stay 734 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:06.599 in liquid is health. Stay healthy. Our health diminishes when we get coagulated, 735 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:15.800 when our liquid stops being liquid. So our little hum can help start 736 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:18.960 that coagulation. Because I'm sitting at the computer too long, I'm sitting in 737 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:24.079 front of television, I'm sitting for long, I'm on airplane. Water that 738 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:29.159 that our little hums and talking to this body can help remind the body to 739 01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:36.119 stay liquid and liquid it equals health. As we conclude, I want a 740 01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:46.159 little more clarity on the statement whatever is unexpressed runs the show. Yeah, 741 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:53.280 so are you saying kind of like whatever is caught in your body and it 742 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:59.039 hasn't been hasn't been defined, it's gonna be it's gonna determine my perception, 743 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.960 okay, because it's blocking me, or it's hurting me, or it's causing 744 01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:09.960 or it's coloring everything everything through that lens. Yeah. So that's when that's 745 01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:14.599 when I would really need some empty and let me see this clear. You 746 01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:17.679 know, Can I trust my perception? Is it just because I'm resentful, 747 01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.360 angry, tired, you know. So, it's sound makes us honest. 748 01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:29.400 In my first book, I write a lot about how sound makes us honest. 749 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:34.320 And that's why I think it's so important to shed everything and to own 750 01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:39.320 our different emotions, own our stuff. Not in terms of saying it to 751 01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.079 that person, because that does not help, but let me at least move 752 01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:46.960 it for myself. Let me get honest with me, and let sound be 753 01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:54.559 the medicine. Let's sound, you know. So it's such a great statement 754 01:05:54.639 --> 01:06:00.599 because it's like defining the disease process. If you leave this stuck, it's 755 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:05.880 gonna fester and manifest into something next level. And then if you don't pay 756 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:12.599 attention to it, it's gonna get manifesting another level. And this is the 757 01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:15.519 problem I have with medicine is like we'll give you a drug to suppress that 758 01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:23.320 feeling or that discomfort, but you're not getting at the root cause of it. 759 01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:29.639 So the drug pushes it even further into the body and then something else 760 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:36.639 happens. Yeah. Yeah, it's a yeah, I hear you. I 761 01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:43.159 yeah. So being able to start taking some more response, not some more, 762 01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:47.199 taking responsibility for our own wellness and sound is a beautiful way to start. 763 01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:54.400 Yeah, because it'll you know, if I got diagnosed on a bad 764 01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:58.159 day when I'm just kind of depressed, I'm just tired, I'm just this, 765 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.800 I'm just angry, I'm disappointed, whatever, I'm going to have a 766 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:08.840 completely different treatment, man, than if I do my own sounding, do 767 01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:12.519 my own movement, get honest with my own emotions before I go to have 768 01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:15.480 that blood checked. Yeah, you know, it's like letting me do my 769 01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:21.400 own homework first, Let me do my own clearing, because otherwise it's just 770 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:27.760 going to get a reading of where my stuck stuff is. Yeah, I 771 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.480 mean, I'm making something kind of simplistic, but on some level. Yeah, 772 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.719 you know, we need to do our own self care before we go 773 01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:39.960 to get care. Well that's the whole problem though, And I wanted to 774 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:44.360 bring this up as we get close to the end. People just can't be 775 01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.280 bothered with this a lot of this and they're like, I can never do 776 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:50.800 humming. I just don't have time for it. But the problem is that 777 01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:58.239 if you don't take care of the body, the mind, and the spirit 778 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:01.760 with this humming and other healing techniques, then someone else is gonna take over 779 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:06.400 and you're gonna have a like you said, a bad diagnosis, or a 780 01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:15.199 prescription to poisonous toxic drugs or god forbid, around this liquid surface all the 781 01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:19.159 time. So so I mean really, in one or two minutes or even 782 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:24.840 less, I can do a whole treatment for myself. It doesn't take very 783 01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:30.039 long. It's just being willing to be foolish a little bit, go in 784 01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.479 that special room where you can sing or hum a little bit. That's right, 785 01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:36.800 that's right. You know I have a pillow over. I mean yeah, 786 01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:45.760 but you know, like, yeah, that my idea. And yeah, 787 01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:49.159 I mean just really quickly, I can express, I can move, 788 01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:57.079 I can bring it back to integration. Wow, you know, Yeah, 789 01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:00.800 why did you write this book? Tell us real quick as we close? 790 01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:03.000 Why? Why who did you write it for? And why did you write 791 01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:04.880 it? And I kind of know why, but I want to hear in 792 01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:10.560 your own words, well, see why did I write? Well? I 793 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.239 why did I write this book? Well? I wanted the information. I 794 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.800 wanted to demystify. I wanted to make it accessible. I wanted people to 795 01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:25.880 know that their voice, their minds, their image, imagination could be healing 796 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:30.359 for themselves. It's empowering, it's empowering and too. But basically, I'm 797 01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:36.319 so interested in demystifying because there's enough mystery. I don't need to create mystery, 798 01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:41.239 you know. No, But so that was one of the main reason. 799 01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:45.359 I just wanted to make it simple. And and the truth is is 800 01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:50.000 that I think it's good. I think it's it's it's it's just so basic. 801 01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:57.399 It's just so basic, you know, to show that people can do 802 01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:00.640 that, we can do this. It's a beautiful self help and it doesn't 803 01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:04.600 interfere with anything else you're doing, right, you know, it's not contraindicated, 804 01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:09.560 right, you know. And so that's one of the main reasons. 805 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.560 And plus I'm going to be an elder here and I don't know how much 806 01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.920 longer I'm going to be around, and it's like, let me put this 807 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:19.359 down. Someone might benefit from it. Yeah, oh no, it's a 808 01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:24.439 wonderful book. I'm so glad you feel that way. Healing through sound, 809 01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:29.800 awakening your body, excuse me, awakening your audible body. And the guest 810 01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.920 is Vicky dot Vicky, how can people get a hold of you? What's 811 01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:39.720 your website? Sacred sound Works dot com? Yuh huh dot com? Right, 812 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:45.159 And for those of you listening, Vicky also does Zoom healing work where 813 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:50.520 you can contact her and register for private healing, and I would imagine she 814 01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:57.760 can also give you some help if you need to learn unique techniques for your 815 01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:01.359 situation. That's another thing she can do for you. You and I have 816 01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:06.439 found Viki on YouTube, So if you do Vicky Dodd, there's a number 817 01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:11.119 of one of there's two or three that are about ten years old. Oh 818 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:13.680 yeah, they're oh what, I need to do something new, But they're 819 01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:16.840 actually nice because they give you a sense of you working on people. Oh 820 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.239 good. And also there's some I want to interview. I think it's in 821 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:28.640 Washington State where you're at a you're giving a workshop and the leader, one 822 01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.800 of the people who gathered the people together, is interviewing you. It's very 823 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:36.359 good. Yeah. Is there any place else people can see your work? 824 01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:43.520 Mmm? No, I don't know. I don't know, but I tell 825 01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:48.279 you I am very accessible and I do one on one work on Zoom and 826 01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:54.720 online. So if people will be in touch with me, because I think 827 01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.359 that's I do the teachings that way, I will be. I'll be starting 828 01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:01.800 some teaching classes against because I really had to let everything go until this book 829 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:05.439 got done. Oh, I bet you've been like pushing it the last minute 830 01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:09.079 to get it up. So yeah, it's great. So a lot of 831 01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:15.399 a lot of my other life just kind of you know, but it's time 832 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:20.760 again because there's nothing I like more than teaching and turning people onto their voices 833 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:27.960 and simplifying, simplifying the health of it. Well, much success for those 834 01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:31.319 of you listening in. The book just came out and it is available on 835 01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:40.720 Amazon, your local bookstore, and you now have Vicki's email address and web 836 01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:44.159 web address, I should say, so if you want to get a consultation, 837 01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:48.760 you can. You can reach out to her. Much success, Vicki, 838 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.680 this is a wonderful book. I think you've done a great job, 839 01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:57.439 and I think you've really tapped into the wisdom of the ages on this thing. 840 01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.600 I really appreciate it what you're saying, and I appreciate you inviting me 841 01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:05.880 onto your show. And yeah, it's a pleasure in meeting you, and 842 01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:13.359 we should get together see about a session. You'd mentioned it, so I'm 843 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:21.119 just reminding you definitely, Yeah, I think you'd like it. This book 844 01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:26.479 is really and I can't say this enough, it's really one for your bookshelf 845 01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:32.960 because the techniques are easy to understand and practice. The other thing is go 846 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:39.720 to YouTube, type in Vicky do d O D D V I C K 847 01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:45.000 I E D O D D and look for the self healing. There's two 848 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:53.600 self healing videos that are about two minutes each and it's about humming your name. 849 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:58.359 You mentioned your name and she did a little bit of it and then 850 01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:03.279 you begin moving in audibly. It's very cool and I've tried it a couple 851 01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:08.119 of times. In this it does something to your solar plexus, your heart 852 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:15.680 area, which for me is very sensitive, and I can't wait to work 853 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:17.840 with some of the other techniques. I'm actually gonna get a session with her 854 01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:27.439 because I need to have some extra help and we're all on different stages of 855 01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:32.680 healing and dealing with wellness. So I really enjoyed that interview. I hope 856 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:41.840 you did too. And her website is full of material as well. Sacred 857 01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:47.600 Sound works with an x dot com and she's on the West Coast. She's 858 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:55.279 in Washington, so if you're having issues, consider doing a personal or a 859 01:14:55.319 --> 01:15:00.000 private session with her. She doesn't through zoom or she doesn't through the phone 860 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:02.560 because she wants people. She told me this just recently. She wants people 861 01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:08.920 to lay down while they're getting a session so they can take in the energy. 862 01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:15.880 And I think that's fantastic. So these therapies were known to the ancients, 863 01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:23.720 you know, and they're so simple to use. And she made a 864 01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:28.199 very very good point that we've kind of lost touch with our ability to heal 865 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:31.000 ourselves, and we kind of give up and go to the doctor. And 866 01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:40.640 unfortunately most physicians are skillless when it comes to real profound healing. You can't 867 01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:45.000 heal with medicines. They're so toxic now, and obviously we don't want to 868 01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:50.640 have surgery if we can avoid it. So these kind of books are self 869 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.560 help and we need a little effort, meaning that you need to have a 870 01:15:55.560 --> 01:16:02.279 little effort behind applying these sounding techniques. And I'm excited to read through this 871 01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:06.560 book a little more. I scanned through it and read a couple of chapters, 872 01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:09.640 but I want to read the whole thing. It's not much of a 873 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:13.039 it's only like one hundred and what is it here? That's one hundred and 874 01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:17.840 fifty pages maybe, which isn't a lot. So check it out. Healing 875 01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:28.199 through Sound Awakening your Audible Body with Vicky Dodd We're actually going to be in 876 01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:31.039 Egypt, and I'm leaving on the twenty sixth of this month, will be 877 01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:34.960 there for a couple of weeks, so I'll take some photographs of this hospital. 878 01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:39.800 I think I had some of Sakara last year, but I didn't get 879 01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:44.319 enough details of these rooms and they're very very cool, and some of the 880 01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:50.319 other sites in that area that are considered healing healing facilities, healing chambers, 881 01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:58.039 and there's a lot of interesting and unknown acoustic properties. Too. Many of 882 01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:03.600 the buildings that were rated and the techniques are lost to us. We don't 883 01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:09.079 know what they were doing. But some of these temples you can actually do 884 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:14.840 sounding, so are toning. I want to also mention that we're going to 885 01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:20.159 be in Turkey and things have died down in the Middle East. The Israelis 886 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:29.520 are leaving Gaza and things are much more comfortable, less hectic, less frightening, 887 01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:33.960 and we have space available for our August fourteenth through the twenty fourth tour 888 01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:39.520 of Turkey. It's the first time we're going to be there. Our host 889 01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:45.920 is going to be Mohammed Imbrahem. We meet in Istanbul and the our terrary 890 01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:51.920 is excellent. Will be all over the place, including darren Kuru, Cappadocia, 891 01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:57.520 Go Beckley Teppe, and some other other places that are around here that 892 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:00.520 are ancient. I mean, go Beckley Teppe's one of the oldest in the 893 01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:03.960 world. Now. That ends in August, and then we're going to be 894 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:11.840 in Mexico November seventh through the eighteenth, and that is going to be excellent. 895 01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:15.199 If you're in the United States, you need to come to that because 896 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:23.399 the temples are right across the border and they are beautiful, sacred and healing. 897 01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:29.359 And we do a number of climbs. We practice at Mayapan, and 898 01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:33.439 then we'll be in Chichinitsa, my favorite city, which is the ancient Maya 899 01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:39.279 city of Ushmol. And then there's some other areas we're gonna be. We're 900 01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:45.000 gonna be at ekbalam Loabna, on and on and on. For more information 901 01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:50.239 on any of our tours, go to earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours 902 01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:54.800 and you can see all the details. If you have any questions about our 903 01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:58.920 tours, send me an email. Send it to Earth Ancients for you at 904 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:01.800 gmail dot com and I'll get right back to you on there. I want 905 01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:05.600 to mention twenty twenty five is already shaping up. It looks like we have 906 01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:12.000 most of our tours will be in Guatemala at Tika in the early part of 907 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.640 the year, one of the big beauties. And I'm only it's funny. 908 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:24.359 I mentioned this tour that is coming up, probably in the summer Easter Island, 909 01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:27.520 and I've been wanting to go there. I found out from Doctor Ed 910 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.600 that he's taken a few groups there, and I said, you got to 911 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.760 take us, You got to take us there. Talk about it once in 912 01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:36.800 a lifetime. So that's going to happen in twenty twenty five. If you 913 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:43.479 have any interest in any of these tours, let me know and I'll get 914 01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:46.840 back to you right right quickly. We're also number three will be in Turkey 915 01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:50.840 again. I was not going to do it, but I've decided that we're 916 01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:55.560 going to skip Egypt in twenty twenty five and we're going to go to Turkey 917 01:19:55.600 --> 01:20:00.960 instead. So the Jungles of Guatemala for Tikka, which is a fabulous We're 918 01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:08.760 gonna go and stand on the one pyramid, the New World Pyramid that was 919 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:14.279 tested by John Burke, and you can actually fill the energy coming out of 920 01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:19.760 it. So that will be Guatemala, and then we will be in Easter 921 01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:26.960 Island in the South Pacific and then Turkey the finish of the year out. 922 01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:30.600 That's why I think it's going to be Any interest in any of these tours 923 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:35.319 go to Earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours. I think we're about half 924 01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:39.880 full for the Easter Islands, so if you want to join us, send 925 01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:45.000 me an email Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com. Our tours are 926 01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:49.000 a blast, by the way. Also, I make sure that they're reasonably 927 01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:53.800 priced. You're not paying out of the nose for a visit to another country, 928 01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:58.720 I promise. All right, Okay, that's it for this program. 929 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:03.119 I think my guest today Vicki DoD coming to us from Washington State. As 930 01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:09.479 always, the team of Gil Tour, Mark Foster and everyone who makes this 931 01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:14.279 thing happen. You guys rock all right, take care of be well, 932 01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:15.279 and we will talk to you next time.