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evening, everyone who welcome to Mac Maloney's Militrank's on show here on the Distant
thundunt Or Radio Network. This is Mac Maloney. What a show we have
in store for you tonight. The first I have to introduce the members of
the posse, and I have to apologize what upfront of girls. Yeah,
you may still need your big box of clinics, and your fan and your
misters and your economy pack of wives, but the very famous JJ is not
here tonight, not here on a secret mission called the Way at the last
minute, but he's here in spirit. However, girls you're not shouldn't be
completely disappointed because up there in the Great to Maine, I think right right
now and his compound, formerly his book, they know him is Cocoa on
the street, but we know him as Commanda cobra cec Addy. Mac has
always acause you do join the formation speak shoes that might have to fill with
the JJ absence tonight. What is he about? Fourteen and a half.
I'd just like to add that we are in multiple feet of snow up here
in the Great White North. Animals are frolicking in at least two to three
feet of the snow light powder. It's the middle of June. Why is
it still snowing up there? Oh? You know that's so low climate.
Is there something that we just live like we like watching television up here in
May? Mm hmm okay, hey listen. I was reading something about remember
the TV show Murder? She wrote, Yes, okay, didn't that take
place in a town in Maine? Crabs something, crab tree, crab,
crabbit cove someone added up. I mean, murders are in that place,
like over the twelve years the show was on and it was one hundreds of
muri. Yeah, there's more. It's it's better than Chicago. Everyone in
the place get killed. You didn't buy the population, if you I mean,
if you did it by the population, right, wouldn't someone come in
and say, hey, something odd, there's something wrong. But she solved
them all. Not in Maine. It was just another thing. I'm just
telling you, not me, okay. But it is the great state of
Man. It's a great place. If you like seafood, it is a
great state. It is so and maple syrup, you know, all those
kinds of cheap weed. Hag on, who's listen? Uh? Switchy is
going to be joining us. Uh. Information is that what they say when
someone joins the lake? What's what's the going to join the formation? Is
why we're why we're in to the fun changing, ever changing target at mcwully's
called here a twelve Wow. Okay, so a number of people be joining
us in a little while. But really classing up the show right from the
beginning is our good friend Valerie and Lafasso. Hi, Val, how are
you doing? I'm doing good. I'm really excited to be back here with
you guys. Coco said it off. Yeah, but I'll say again,
can I say you look ravaging as well? He already said it. We
have him on Faye. Yeah, okay, it's like an early It's like
an early gift when you see Bell and she's got this kind of glow to
me, right, we don't have it, so when we see it,
we know it. Jay I thank god this is radio because if they saw
this, it looks like dim balls and a certain So there you go.
I get the dim palm spot. So listen. Soette, what's going on
with you? What's you know? You have a new book coming out?
Right? Yeah, it's already out. I re released the first two books
in my series. The second editions have been released and the third book in
the series is out for the first time ever. So what's the name?
Super exciting for me? Okay, the titles of the names. The title
of the series is Tangled Web of Friends. The first book is Summer Camp,
the second book is The Witches of Fishcale Pond, and the third book
is titled The Last Hour. Oh, okay, let's go to Summer Camp.
What's that about's? What can you tell us about that? So Summer
Camp follows the main character, whose name is Josie, who is not a
hiker or camper, but her parents send her on this week long hiking camp
actually up in the Cataden area of Maine is where they go, and through
a series of events, she starts seeing ghosts while she's out there, and
they get stranded in an abandoned house. And so this this series is going
to follow her and the friends that she makes on this trip and how she
deals with being able to talk to ghosts and how it affects the people around
her, the relationships she has with living and dead people and all that sort
of thing. And if people were interested in grabbing where would one find these
They are available on Burns and Noble Amazon. The first two are in ebook
as well, but they're on all the major you know booksellers online. Okay,
so what's the name of the series again? What's the name of the
series again? Tangled Web of Friends? Okay, and so just go to
Amazon dot com and look up st Entangled Web of Friends? Right, Yeah,
are these g rated? Are they slightly rated? I almost said,
actually, I'm guessing they're definitely not r rated. I actually my original editor
is pretty strict about language, and I'm pretty grateful for that. But you
know, people get nervous because it's ghosts. It's scary, but it's they're
really more about the relationships than about scare. I mean, there is some
scary parts, of course, you know, you're dealing with things that we
don't quite understand, so that can be scary. But I've had kids as
young as ten years old read them up to people in their eighties, and
they all that brings in most of the posse. They're right there, right,
year old category up for the rest of us. Switch all we have
to switch. Remember this is on tape. Yeah, yeah, that sounds
good. You know, I can see you know, people getting hit that
people love to get scared, people love ghost stars, you know, and
is an endless well of ghost stories. Yeah, and you know these aren't
necessarily your average ghost stories. You know. I've been lucky enough. I
learned that I was a medium while writing these books, so I've been able
to put my own experiences into a lot of it, as well as bringing
the experience of all the different intuitives that I've met over you know, the
last twelve or so years that I've been working on these. So, so
you are you are an I think it's yes, empathic medium? Yes,
a medium? Okay, right? Is that a gift? Is that a
gift or a burden? Or is it all depends on the minute of the
day. No, it's it's mostly a gift. Once you learn how to
understand and manage the energy, it can be very draining, you know,
and paths can be very susceptible to depression and anxiety because we're constantly feeling the
energy of everything around us and we don't always know what's going on, or
it's just so overwhelming, so we need to take care of ourselves and charge
ourselves and hang on to as much energy as possible. So it can be
tough, but once you know how to manage it, it's pretty amazing.
I think this might be a tough two hours. Hopefully you're hang in with
us. We can be as charging or as charging as possible. Just tell
us what, you know, what mode we're in, right? But you
know, I don't want you to think though that like you're doing something to
drain me. It's it's just how it is. Everything on this planet has
energy, Everything has the potential to be draining or charging, and it's just
figuring out which is which and how I have to move throughout those situations.
Well. And really, from what I've experienced, a lot of people have
some empathic tendencies, except maybe sociopaths. But I mean, I only said
I don't, but of course I do, right, right, right I
I I, yeah, I don't know what I have to do the truth,
but I know that people there are definitely people who are a little bit
more tuned into things than other people, There's no doubt about it. And
one of them. Yeah, and you know, some some people definitely seem
thrown into it. You know, they're not given a choice. It's that
happened to them, no matter what if they want it or not, and
then other people really want it and learn how to figure it out, right,
yeah, now, and then there's everybody in between. So the reluctant
medium, how about that. There's a TV show. You know, she's
a medium, she can do it all, but she's kind of reluctant to
be like that. But people are always coming to her from how we can
put her in a little fishing village in Maine. Come on, rights itself
anyway? Okay, So anyway, so you never know, you never know
it was right. You know, then we can we could start, we
could be ourselves in it. So listen, Coco, I want to thank
you for the coffee beer, by the way, the coffee beer that you
gave. Yes are you? Are you kind of digging that, I'll be
honest. You know, if Christmas, Coco gave me a four pack?
Was it a four pack? Yes, of ribbon had coffee, hard coffee,
right, So it's a malted liquor, which I don't and all you
have to drink two or three regular beers before you drink one, you know.
That's I mean, just that's that's my well safety tip, safety tip
of pat to mac or making sure you line up your proper beer arrangement,
because no one likes to go into battle and not have the proper order.
You have to kind of make sure a few kids out there, because you
know, Paps is the drink of the cool kids, right. So the
story behind my grandfather, the maternal one love Paps blue Ribbon, and I
remember sneaking that that probably the first time having a drink and almost throwing up.
No takeaway from Paps flu ruine. But I've heard everyone raving about this
hard copy. And when I threw a party not too long ago, I
didn't have enough Paps because the younger set was amongst me, and they were
kind of put out that things like He's find German Ales a couple of local
micro brewis, and Sam Adams was a fan their palate. They didn't.
So I tried. I tried to keep you, did you yeah? Keep
young? Yes, said why did you do that to those kids? Work?
I did? They all get a trophy before they left? Though I'm
with you, I mean, you know, hey, now you're going into
the sociology. Okay, we don't want to go down, not with Jake,
not with one one. Not here. If I was going to make
a trophy. I would glue al can on a piece of two by four,
right, yeah, and I know you know someone who could do that.
Yeah, just say here it is I did this. Yeah, it's
you know that that beer has been around nothinking down this road. That beer
has been around forever. You know, it used to be basically an economy
beer. Someone bought it and they and they yep, yep to fight.
I'm saying that in an advertising term. You know, it's the same old
beer. There's no sense in paying the buck fifty more for the last.
But anyway, that's just me. So why don't we have a top ten
tonight top and weird warships? How about that? Do you want to do
it? Now? You know, when do we do this? Why don't
we take a break and then we'll do it? Okay, see if we
can pick up some stragglers along the way. What do you say, Cochle,
I'm looking at you. You never know, you never know the net.
When we're on a CAP tonight, folks, for the military folks,
they know what that means. Folks. We're on a combat air control tonight.
Right out there working the airspace is a three perch in formation tonight and
who knows We're going to snag in the net. That's yeah, okay,
there's a joke this somewhere, but I know what. Thanks? Thanks me.
Why don't we take a break now, and when we come back,
someone will be with us. I think you know, Switchy, you know
who knows. So you're listening to Macloney's Militar's Not show here on the Distant
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I'm taking a leaking the driveway. Just I know you'd like to talk
to total stranger. This story has got nothing to do with the Bruins Gang.
It's what happened with Grandma. I was wondering if those were sadow messacres
of straps or something. But I digress from what I don't know. Get
into the beautiful mind of one one only on the mc maloney Military X File
show, Welcome Back, and we went to mac Maloney's Military Sun Show here
on the Distant Thunder Radio that way. I gotta put my shades on.
This is macaroniey Wyll. What a show we have for you tonight. But
let me just introduce the members of the posse and it's going to be growing
and growing and growing. My good friend commanded Cobus here Coco, how you
doing. She's always a privileged for me. He's saluting me. I gotta
salute him. JJ is on a secret mission called the Way. At the
last second, he won't be joining us girls. Sorry, Switchy is coming
during the full mission sometime during the show, but with us classing up the
show like putting you a dose of flowers on the table, A good friend.
Valerie Laso, Hi, Val, how are you doing? Hi?
How are you? Zoom has to work on their audio portion of things.
We're great, Cocoa and I are great, and thanks for joining us tonight.
You look, we've already established you look ravishing tonight. We've said that
three or four times tonight. Let's move on. So listen, we have
a ton I think what she's saying is mac let's move on. We don't
need to talk about her ravishiness anymore. Baby towards the end, Okay,
that's what those hands say. But she's an EmPATH. She already knew that.
She knew she knows he's an empaths. She already knew that, So
she knew that then that she was descending in we have a top ten uh
list. But listen, we've just had a guest joined us. Should we
bring him in on the air? What do you think, Coco? Or
should we stop the show again? It's we're only not even no, no,
no, absolutely bring in. This kind of rolling rumble is always fun.
Wow, yeah you will see watch this train wreck. Okay, here
we go, because you've got to tell people before they're on the air that
they're on the air. Here we go, Well, here we go.
This is live. Hi Matthew, how are you doing? Matthew? Hi,
Matthew, do this is what you go through? Hi? Matthew,
Good, how are you doing? Hey? Listen, we're on the air.
Okay, we're on the air. I just have to say that.
Okay, we brought you in hot as they say, listen, command the
Kober. He's with us. He's off camera right now. But this is
a good friend valleye of So she's the pretty one. She's joining us tonight.
She's an mpathy, she's an mpath. So watch what you say if
you know what I mean? Okay I will. And it was still her
friend that we got connected. Her friend Mike I think, was the connecting
force who got us together. But yeah, we can talk about that later.
So how are you doing you're out in California, right, Arizona,
Arizona close, okay, and just one right, that's practically the same things
for most of us in the East. One earthquake away and you got the
beachfront property. But so and you were on if I remember right, you
were on the aircraft carry the USS Teddy Roosevelt as a cryptologist at the same
time the pilot's on from that ship photograph what we call the gimbo Ufo.
Please tell me I got all that right? Yes, you did? All
right? Is exactly right? That was back in twenty fifteen. Good for
you, Mackie. Yet twenty fifteen and you were the when it happened.
And how long have you been out of the service now since March? I
got out in March. And it's something we've talked before. You run a
couple of months ago, and we've talked about that, we talked about in
depth. But you are a cryptologist. It's kind of a interesting job on
a ship like that. But there's a lot of things you can't tell us.
But one thing you did tell us is that you would never go back
in the service. You lated your time there, but you would never go
back, right, do I have that, right, Yeah, that's right.
I mean just just because of everything that's happened to me, I've learned
a lot about life, and I just don't think that the service is the
place for me, be honest with you. Wow, interesting, but it
was it was you know, the kind of the catalyst and and what brought
me to this experience. So I can't say that I regret it. All
right. If it wasn't for them, you wouldn't be here now, that
type of thing, right right, Well, listen, you know what,
Matthew. I know you have a book that's coming up. But we're in
the middle of a thing called Top ten. We had warships. You want
to join us for that? Sure? Okay? Hoping you'd say yes when
we do the top ten weird washships. Valerie's going to read down the list.
Number ten, please out. Ten is a mouthful. The Novgorod Russian
ship Yes, go ahead. Coco Russian Nangarad is a monitor type ship coastal
defense ship, sometimes referred to in our circles as the flying saucer ship because
it was pretty much circular. Went yeah, nineteen hundred, nineteen hundreds.
It had a minor role in the Russio Turkey War. In popular naval myth,
it is considered one of the worstship's worst have worships ever built? But
that doesn't really quite pan out when you look at what it did. It
was decommissioned in nineteen o three and it was scrapped in nineteen eleven. It's
real claim to fame being an iron Clyde type chip go based on a Scottish
naval architect. Yes, they built the beam as wide as possible. That's
why during out the circulars. It's a circular ship, it's a ship.
It's a ship that's circular vessel in a circle. Okay. In the the
Za fell in love with this design, which is what they built two of
them, and he fell in love with this particular design. He said it
would be cool to have a circular ship, right, but then a fleet.
Yeah, But then they started shooting cannons off and they it turns out
that the thing spun like crazy when you shut off. He can't. It
would start to get into really weird moments when I do it. Thing so
didn't pan out happen? Yeah, Well, you know those Russians, you
know, they're always willing to go the extra amount. Okay, number nine,
please value top ten weird warships. That's that's Wisconsin, US. Thats
Wisconsin. Okay, what this is. It's also known as the Great Lakes
Aircraft Carrier. There is an aircraft area in the Great Lakes, I think
Lake Superior, and they put it there in World War Two. There's an
old paddle boat. They put a top on it and it was rare because
there's a large navy base. Where is that, coco when on the Great
Leave in Chicago there's one. Also there was one in Detroit as well.
Yeah, I think JJ was at one of them. But anyway, they
would train navy pilots there and Cago. They would go out and yeah,
and and and practice landing and takeoff on this aircraft carrier. And it's still
there. They it's it's it's still there. You know. They never know
when the football had to take it out. But yeah, the USS Wisconsin
Great Lakes Aircraft carry Ever heard that before Cocaine, Yes, he did,
Yes, And there was a wolverine I believe. Also is another vessel that
was brought on as well, and two of the best recovered I believe wildcats
and possibly one other Fighter worth because when they when they lost their engines on
either take for landing, the cold water of the Great Lakes actually preserve the
ship very very well and they are on display at the Naval Aviation Museum in
Pensacola because without the salt water, obviously uh it caused the ships to the
cave being very very cold and didn't break them down. Yeah wow, who
knows valley? Please next weird wash it? Lomar Explore, the Glomar Explorer.
Yes, yes, you did, the Glomar Explorer. First, I
need to put a small note that my father did work for Howard Hughes at
one time. I always like to throw an embarrass That's why the us NS
Hughes Glomar Explorer Tango Alpha Gulf one ninety three deep sea drilling ship. Amazing
project. Howard Hughes the man of of everything that is unconventional and unachievable within
his grasp. About the ship, Project Assourian, it was a CIA special
UH Director project to get the USSR sub Kilo one two nine, which had
sunk. It is one of those projects where they built a mechanical arm to
lift the submarine up from the floor to recover it. There is two stories
running about how successful it was. One says they got about thirteen percent of
the ship. Another very well done study says it's closer to eighty percent of
the ship. And they bring a number of Soviet sales up, gave them
a burial at sea, and eventually after the Cold War, the films of
that burial at sea were provided to the Russian Navy for the sailors that were
in turned. It is an interesting ship in many many parts. At one
point when it was no longer being used and it kind of came out,
a number of the science community wanted to keep it as a national defense asset
because of what you could do was very unique and it's just very expensive to
anything. They pitched it and on fifteen June twenty fifteen and Zuhasan, China,
Yes, ship was sent to a chip breaking facility. Oh this ship
has two parts. About this ship that it did is a mac maloney story.
It could have fit in any one of his books that he wrote about
Everywhere Pirate Hunters. There was a great scene where they talk about ships a
place where ships are brought Oh yeah apart, yeah, boomerang. I always
think of that scene. Yep. I always think of that scene of the
Glomark Explorer headed that way. Yeah, they take these huge ships what they
do, and this is after they've been abandoned or whatever, sold off as
scrap, and they'll just put the engines on full blast and run them up
onto the shore. And then they have these these workers they're they're they're all
over the kind of like the Middle East and India and stuff. Whould you
All they do is just you know, use torches and just you know,
cut them up hot. Thousands and thousands of people working at these places.
Every day. They have, you know, up to three or four dozen
deaths every day from accidents, and they pay them fifty cents a month and
that kind of thing, you know. But that's what happens to your super
tankers these days. Have you ever heard of that, Matthew, Now you
are kind of close to all the spooky stuff that happens in the navy.
You ever hear about the Glomark Explorer. No, I've never heard of that.
So it was it was a big ship, but it had a claw
run. I imagine James Bond movie or a cartoon with a big claw in
the Russian sub at tank. We knew where it was, and they wanted
to get you know, their missiles and the secret technology of their missiles,
set et cetera. So they Howard hughes pace for this you know ship that
has a big claw. So they sailed out there and you know, it
wasn't made public feed years later. But what happened was, as Coco says,
there's two stories. One of them is it picked up a little bit
of it and they got some stuff. But they're never going to tell the
Russians that they picked up you know, eighty percent of it. But supposedly
they did get a lot more of it, and they brought up these sails.
And it was when Yeltsin was the president of Russia and we had kind
of good relations with them. I think they would have done it anyway because
of that little navy you know sale thing. But they did take They gave
him a burial sea. They videotaped it, and they gave to the Russians
and said, you know, at least we honored them that type of thing.
Yeah, nice touch. One other thing to add to this, mac
Yes, I actually saw this ship when it was in Mobile, Alabama and
the port there it was being When it was sold, it was turned into
a deep sea drilling ship, real mineral and oil expiration. And it was
in Mobile, Alabama, And I didn't realize it at the time what I
was looking at. Years later I put kill a good year. I was
like ninety seven, ninety eight someplace in there. The only other story I
remember about it is that when Nixon was president, right as he was about
to leave, he was in San Diego doing a tour of the San Diego
Naval Shipyard and that's where it was at that time, and he said,
what is that I'd like to go aboord it, and they wouldn't let them
go abort it, you know, because even the President didn't have the clearance
to go on this thing, you know, which just tells you that they
can't do everything. So anyway, Valerie, please the next a top ten
list of weird waships that then is the USS Vesuvius. The USS Vesuvius.
Okay, what was strange about this ship? It was back then nineteen hundreds
or so, was well, the way that ships are armed now Matthew and
both Cocoa can correct me if I'm wrong, but they basically naval guns are
basically artillery guns that they put on ships, and a lot of them are
very powerful and so on. Okay, but they fire off shells. They
propel shells just like a gun propels a bullet. They propel shells. Shells
go twenty miles, okay, and then they blow up. The Vesuvius was
used to shoot dynamite, is that right, Coco. They used to.
They used to shoot dynamite at at targets and you know, which would I
could see where that would have some problems, you know, especially loading the
gun and stuff like that. But when it worked, they could shoot dynamite
like two miles, but you couldn't hear it coming because it was it was
shot by compressed air. You know, you would use the dynamic as crazy
as it sounds, but they had a ship that did this, and I
think it was in the Spanish American wall, and the enemy actually complained that
we can't hear the shells coming. So it's not fair type of thing.
It's not fair. But you know, having dynamite as your you know,
weapon of choice is not a good idea. And eventually it must have blown
up or something, right, something, or they just got rid of it.
They decommissioned it before. Yeah, I guess it was more the decommissioned.
As I told you, pop Air, I really think this was a
shame that this isn't sitting in some port as an Italian restaurant, because I
think it would be absolutely perfect. Well you're Italian because you're a pot of
allion. No, because it's us. Okay, you know there's another thing.
What kind of a joke. It's got to be a joke that someone
says, you gotta you gotta shift to shooge the dynamite. Let's call him,
you know, USS for Suvie Wiley Wiley Coote would acme anyway, Valerie,
how are we doing? You're an mpath Can you sense the vibe of
the room? One throw it away? It's pretty good, it's good.
One through it through this long list. Okay, that's probably all coming from
six. Okay, number six, please, Valorie. Number six is the
U S S Tuna fish. Now see this is going to go nowhere.
I could switch. He isn't here. This is it's inside hockey here.
But carry so should we just continue on type of thing or should we do
the no? No, no, you need you need you need to throw
you need to love the grenade. And then in replay he'll he'll call you
up and that's drunking doughnut least craziness. Yeah, the one that said donuts.
Look, he was in he was in subs for four years or something
like that. But what was his name? His sub like the U S.
S. Albacore or something. And I always said, why don't they
just caught the toleman? Okay, maybe it's halibate, but why is it
in the US tuna? Of course, the one here in Portstal. Oh,
that's what I'm saying, right, Okay, U S. S.
Tuna? No US is tuna fish? Does skip Jack? Is they?
They've they named all their submarines. You don't think I don't think they did
it, Charlie Tuona fish. I didn't look it up and didn't look it
up, but I'm pretty sure they didn't do it to Okay, all right,
So next one, please all, and this is going to be about
real names of ships. Top ten Top ten weird wash hips please Alarie number
five five five weirdly named British ships. Okay, here's the Royal Navy rule
b Tannia Britannia of the seas. Right, Okay, we have a lot
of ships like we have a lot of in principle, Boxer, and they
also have a line of ships, the Dainty, the HMS Pansy, HMS
cock Shopper, the HMS Spanker. I looked this up prepare for the show.
I would like to tell everyone that Matt is doing his best, trying
to hold it together face and it's just barely hanging on. He's about six
and a half. He's getting ready to just let it go. The United
States Naval Institute. When I looked this up, maxin, hey, be
prepared for this today. Yes, I quote the following part soft names are
bad for morale end quote, as was put in a journal of the Naval
Study and Handbooks. Oh yeah, okay, so I'm just going to leave
that where it lays right there. But let's believe for the audience to didn't
hear it the first time. Let's be names the real name bad for morale.
End quote. HMS Dainty, Dansy, Pansy, Cock Shopper, Good,
and Spankers in what world ships of the line. Hey, where are
you in from, Sailor, I'm from I'm in from the Spanker. Yeah,
that's gonna go. That's gonna get your breach rate horrible. I guess
I'm in from the Pansy. Who who I could tell that by the way
you walked in sell it? Who in their right mind that doesn't have the
greatest sense of humor in the world. We go through all. You know,
these ships are cheap. You know you're gonna throw a couple million bucks
into any kind of a naval warship. Why would you call it the USS
Pansy? Is it? Does it not resonate with you that that is not
the thing? The scholarship I'm asking Matthew, you would know there's no this.
This is an indefensible position for me. They have been in the right
mind since they lost the revolution, so in my opinion. So with that
said, when we go on to the name, Matthew, do you agree
with me? Do you agree that that is not it's probably bad form to
name a ship the HMS Pansy. Oh yeah, I don't even understand how
something like that would happen. That is just it's gonna be a the HMS
Dainty Sank, a really bad bad ship. I'm going to pay this my
friends. When I hear this good thing one woman is because his wife is
British and we have a lot of British listeners, right, so we're only
just right right, cool Britannia. Stick with the vindictive, invincible, courageous.
Those are the names to stick with. Gang, the Dainties, Pansies,
the cock choppers, fans, that's what the third one or something else?
Cardoons? Can you? Can you say the third one again? Slowly?
Because I think our audience is missing the cock chopper? Who would name
a ship by that name? What does it even mean other than chafing?
Look, Mac, you don't pay me enough to d the research that I
did. Is this about money? I'm not going undercover on this one.
I'm not going undercover on this one. Good figure, thank you. So
why don't we do this? Why don't we go on to the next one.
I can show this to missus Kobra. My gosh, look at the
sideways because she's a sailor sailing and I'll twice to see time that I have.
So I'm going to deny everything up here talking about pansies and dainties.
Oh yeah, this is going to go well, okay, next ship please?
Top ten weird waships please don't at number four. The USS ice cream.
Okay, the USS ice cream, Okay, real ship. Now I
did a little research in this because I'm a volunteer COPA. And what happened
was what what the Navy found out in World War two. Now this is
all in the Pacific and you get in it's mostly naval ships and so on,
and marines which up out of the navy. So it's a navy wall,
let's say. And what they found that was that because there was a
rule put into you know effect in the nineteen fifteen where you cannot drink on
naval ships. Correct, Matthew, correct, no books. And did you
but do people still bring booze on? Do they try to sneak booze on?
I would, oh, you know people trying? No comment, matt
no combat, Why would I ask you? But okay, So what they
found out was when they went to war, and especially these guys are out
on the you know, these islands in South Pacific and so on, what
they found out was the next best thing was ice cream, because everyone likes
ice cream. So the Navy bought a big cement bodge and turned it into
a big refrigerator ship, and uh, and made an ice cream factory.
And they used to see them up and down the Pacific and go to ports
basically, and everyone would come and you'll get ice cream. They could make
seven hundred gallons of ice cream a day, which is pretty good. It's
pretty good, and you know, ice cream to what they did is a
morale thing, which is kind of funny, but they did as a morale
thing. And and they cut down on all the boozing that the guys was
sneaking the booze on the ships, because you know, they figured out ice
s cream and that won't kick out. So yeah, so the USS ice
cream. Now, how do you how do you how do you, you
know, scrap that ship? How do you not keep that ship cool?
I don't know. The good ship Lollipop isn't on the line anymore, the
ship ice cream isn't on the ship on the line anymore. I just like
to say that the expression cup of joke comes from the situation with the United
States Navy Secretary of the Navy at the time, who Josiah I can't remember
Josiah's last name. Yes, who removed alcohol from the ship. That's right.
Yes, there was a lot of and after that copy, of course,
became the drink of choice in the Navy, and cup of Joe was
kind of a derivative and a derogatory kind of thing. Back to the secretary
of the name, Well, I think it's a good is a great point
to mention Military Java Group. Philip's our friend who produces a line of copies
for each one of the services, right, and part of the profits go
back to active duty and veteran members of each one the services. Javajo dot
com, Java Joe dot com Is that right, Military Java Group dot com?
Okay, yes, military cop Yeah, he's a good guy. So
why don't we do this one? We go to the next weird washup please?
Vallery three the USS Nerwin the US say is newon now, Well,
this thing has Why it's it's notoriety is is that it's the smallest nuclear sub
ever made. It's forty feet long and that might sound long, but it's
like two cars putting put two and a half cars lined up, you know,
has a nuke in it. And it was missioned in the late sixties
and it served the until two thousand and eight. Now, when they built
this thing, this was the dream child of Admiral Ricover. We could do
a whole show on this guy, Admiral Ricover, because he was crazy,
but he was the head of the Navy. He's the head of the Navy,
and he did stuff no one else can do. I mean some of
the stuff he did was almost I don't want to use the word miraculous,
but just so outside the envelope, like saying we'll have a nuclear sub in
a year, and he did it that, you know, crazy kind of
stuff like that about a real task master, but ran the Navy and made
the Navy what it was back then. But anyway, so what he won,
and he was the father of the nuclear Navy. So he had them
build this very small sub. I think there's thirteen people on it, thirteen
people as the crew, and they made it. They said it was a
research vessel. But what it used to do was it used to do what
we were just talking about. It used to search on the ocean floor off
of stuff that like the Middlelitary and the CIA would want and at least identify
it. Now they used it like when the Challenger exploded, that's the ship
that went down and catalog aby all the stuff that was on the bottom of
the floor, just different Russian cables and stuff like that. I think it
was involved when that Korean airline was shot down, and Rickover was one of
these guys who he'd like to brag about all this top secret stuff he's done.
But anytime anyone would ask him about the Neroin, which was also the
NL one, supposedly, he would shut up and he wouldn't talk about him.
That's how valuable it was. So I'm sure they got a replacement.
You know, you never hear about it, but you would never would.
But yeah, a nucleus of the size of a bus. It's about the
size of a bus, thirteen people in it can stay under water forever.
It's crazy. But by news there you go, Coco. Do you ever
hear that I have. I've heard a lot of interesting on the margin kind
of things that was engaged in. How it was transported, how would would
be attached to other ships. Yeah, ways that it was because of its
size, and it makes me think with absolutely no I think to ground this
against this particular classes ship probably has a few siblings in its quiver. The
big deal is there are many mini subs, but they tend to be electric
and they tend to run on battery and they charge from a mothership and they
go do their business. This is an amazing small and very very beautiful vehicle
and today on the water forever. Matthew, do you you I can see
you're shaking your head. This sounds like the Navy having something like this,
right, yeah, Yeah, it's certainly something that we would have. I
mean, they weren't the gadgets. I'm always when I think of the Navy,
I always think they weren't. They weren't the gadgets. They did a
lot of gadget aircraft and all that, if you know what I mean.
Gadget aircraft just kind of off the out of the envelope stuff airplane design,
right yeah, yeah, like experimental type things. Right, they have the
big modified stuff stuff they used to be bombers and turn it into really high
end, very interesting intelligence type Yeah. Interesting, yeah, in turn fighters
at the bombas right. Yeah. The Pueblo is the spy ship that the
North Koreans captured back in sixty eight, held the crew for about a year
and a half. Talk about doing a show on a subject all the stuff
that happened, and that was just how it. I actually delivered the newspaper
to one of the crew members and mothers old Melrose, Massachusetts. Yeah,
just you know, the elevator pitch. Basically, one of our intelligence ships
was taken over by the North Koreans, and the comedy of everrors that caused
them to actually take it over was unusual. They bring the crew to North
Korea and they hold them for about a year and a half. But at
one point they took pictures of them, and the picture has been around the
world and the guys just sitting there and they all got their middle fingers out.
Yeah, they got their arms crossed or they're sitting kind of cross play,
but they all have their middle fingers out. You know. They got
their asses beat for doing it. But when around the world got the message
that they would just tell them North Koreans, we'll cut this out, that
the food wasn't too good. Food wasn't good. Thank you just saved me
eighteen fifty for that added thank you, Coco. Yeah, so they finally
released them some kind of an exchange. Who knows, But it's an all
pretty strange story. USS Poblom. But anyway, talk about strange stories.
Next ship please, number two, The I four oh one sen Toku class
submarine. One of the great obsessions of Command of Cobra is the satakup,
the four oh one, the four zero zero, and the four H two's
sister chips. Yes, these are Japanese aircraft carriers. Again another tie in
to the mac maloney The Universe of Stories and Wingman. I had large,
true carrying submarines that attack the northeast coast United States, and one of my
favorite renditions of the series of Wingman. I have been obsessed with this as
equally as I am obsessed with the Triangle Triangle aircraft. The mission of these
particular submarines was basically to have a strike platform, which the United States maybe
was able to create with the detectsub with the Comahawk missiles later on. But
they carried three e G six A one torpedo bombers, sometimes referred to as
the Syrian floating torpedo bombers. The planes would all fold up. They had
a hangar on the top of the submarine. These were until nineteen sixty five,
the largest submarines ever built. I will at the end, because I
know Mack will ask what's the largest submarines? Will get to that in a
second, but their whole mission primarily was of course, to land attack and
the goal that the Japanese had and they felt was pivotal because as Mackett indicated
earlier in this segment, that the war in the Pacific was a naval marine
war primarily, the war in Europe was much more an army air force type,
although we were going to cover a subject where we are going to have
some connection with this. So they wanted to take out the Panama Canal.
If they could stop the Panama Canal from moving ships, this would have greatly
inhibited what the Navy could do because that needs to have to make the Great
Horn transit around South America, and that water hits some of the worst water
in the world in the certain times of the year that you cannot make it
or you have to come all the way around from the other side through either
Suez or around Africa. The Cape Horn. So a very interesting ship,
a very interesting capability story about the ones that were captured, how they were
afraid that other countries were going to get it, how they sunk and destroyed
some of them. It's an incredible story. They did have some successful missions,
but they never had the ability in forty five to really bring it to
bear. I think though, if you ever gave credit to the situation in
Japanese at that time, the military's use of biological weapons, if they had
ever decided that they were going to make the strike out to the west coast
of the United States, they could have really changed the course. If you
can imagine these with these three aircraft, any submarines, if they could have
used it as a way to an air disperse right biological or chemically. If
you can imagine these before you go ahead back, if you can imagine these
big submarines and there are these, you know, big humps on the back
of them, I mean like really really big submarines, and talk about gadgets.
They would you know, the the the humps would kind of come apart
like a like a nut or something, and shell c shells and the wings
would fold out, the floats would fold out, everything would fold out luck
into place. And what they had was these sea planes that could carry torpedoes
so they could put them on the sub The sub would you know, transit
from who knows where to the first as Cocker said, the first plane was.
The whole objective was to blow up the Panama Canal and that way,
as you said, you know, the transit between back and forth between the
different coasts and the different walls would have been just incredible. But they never
got that far that the technology didn't get that quite that fun. But just
the whole idea of taking a and having three of these huge ships and have
some of them had and a couple of them had three different planes on board,
just the way, you know, just the ingenuity that to make something
like that work, it's just amazing. It'd be hard to do today,
I agree, but not impossible. Not impossible. Yeah. So, and
now is that it has been looked at the United States, Nate, he
has looked at Oh really, I just want to throw in the largest ship,
Russian typhon, the Russian Typhoon, excuse me, yes, And now
that could be replaced with this super tanker for l G that the Russians are
talking about building, called the Pilgrim, and it would be the biggest sub
in the world carrying liquid natural gas sub as a supertanker under the water.
That's just what could what could possibly go wrong with a Russian building garage?
There we go carrying don't get anywhere in these coasts, please Ivan. So
anyway, we have number one in the top ten weird waships number one.
Please value valley before you say it. How are we doing tonight? Let's
just take the pulse again. It's still good, not lagging at all,
not going flat. You could say, okay, all right, there we
go. Number one. Please. The number one is the MS hab a
Cook. Okay, and I probably butchered that. That's okay. No,
only only you could have said it with such elements and such poise. Yes,
kind cook cock whatever, please Coco, save me a cook. HMS
Project a Cook is one of those really incredible stories backstories of World War two.
Yes, it's it has everything you would want for a major motion picture
book. Deal all written in there. Winston Churchill spot into it. Lord
Mountbatten's in the middle of it. There are crazy scientists do stuff. Pike
is in the middle of it. What it basically is is that we're going
to use icebergs as ship carrying vessels so that we can beat the U boats
in the North Atlantic. I will throw a quick aside here icebergs. The
quick point here that I want to throw in is the great book that you
can read about this written by Coast Guard coastguardsman that brought that war the World
War two, it's called Bloody Winter. The U boat menace was absolutely destroying
the convoy lifeline that Britain needed to because it was the last footstuff in Lake
Patricia, Canada. A prototype boat was built. They sold to Winston Churchill
that they can use ice as a means to do this. So what they
initially thought was we'll take a large chunk of iceberg and we'll turn it into
a aircraft carrier and escort type ships. A couple of problems with that came
out very quickly. One of them was that most of the icebergs below the
water, so the ability to control it, the ability to propel it was
not there, so they kind of have abandoned that. Plus there was stability
issues that when parts of it changed. But what brought all these together,
the reason everyone was so caught up with this thought was the International Ice Patrol
was brought together after the sinking of the Tight Tapa. Yes, and it's
actually a Coast Guard mission in the United States. They would fly and mark
and try to destroy icebergs so that they would not hit merchant ships. So
to this day, and I think the mission actually ended not a few years
ago. They would mark them and actually report where they were and put a
GPS position. They would even mark them with electronic markers in the later years.
But they could blow these things up easily. They would pound them with
guns. They would hit with bombs, and this is what got people thinking
that ice is just an incredible way to use this. So what they decided
it was they were going to take a refrigeration type unit in the middle of
it and build the iceberg around it. That they would put a more conventional
type pipe deck or top of the ship and then use ice around this large
refrigeration unit. They built a scale model much like we were talking with Workover's
submarine. This was in Lake Patricia. It worked pretty well. In fact,
you can be the sunken part of this refrigeration unit's still in the lake
in Canada. So they're building they just had They just ran into proms because
they were just intermounable to make it on paper and on the whiteboard of the
blackboard of the day. This was just too attractive not to take an attempt
because where they were there flying and fighting was in really cold water. So
they would have been able to at least maintain quite a bit of the capability,
right, Yeah, and they were going to they created now, they
created their own kind of concrete slash ice. This guy Pike is the guy
who they mixed it with. Yet the Pike had kind of a formula where
he mixed that kind of a sawdust kind of into the water to make that
and that's what made it very very strong, and it stayed very very solid
even as the temperatures went up a couple of things that happened there is salt
water does not freeze. Although people think it does freeze, it doesn't.
When it doesn't, it excludes the salt out of it, and that's how
the ice forms. That's why you can eat sea ice. Okay. But
the name have Akouk, as we were talking, comes from an old prophet
in the Old Testament, and the quote that it's based is be utterly amazed
or I am going to do something in your days that if you would not
believe, even if I told you that's where that name came from, Well,
an Iceberg aircraft carrier would fit that bill. I mean, what what
they what they sold Winston Churchill on on Okay, this is how crazy this?
Now they're talking about making an iceberg and making in an aircraft carrier and
the one that they sold him when like thousand feet long land on this hundreds
of planes hundreds length. That's it right there. You know the regular aircraft
carries. Back then we probably carried maybe fifty sixty planes, maybe more.
Okay, these days they probably carry you know how many math you're probably one
hundred fifty maybe one hundred and fifty total planes. I would say probably,
I would think I have no idea actually coverage wings. About sixty airplanes on
an area and how many wings are there? Two wings on an aircraft just
one one or two wheir wings on it? Usually just one wing. And
you have about four squadrons or okay, yeah, okay, so sixty fighters
and bombers, and then you have like the you know, the a wax
ships and the refuels and all that jazz. Is that would that would that
count in the sixty Collie as part of the planes. Yeah, you have
about sixty sixty five airplanes on an air craft carrier of different types, and
you have those that just come and you know, maybe spend the day or
night type thing. And then go back right require, Well, this this
aircraft carrier made two thousand feet long by two hundred feet wide on the mac
maloney Wingman star Man kind of proportions on stale everywhere, and they were going
to have you know, like up to a thousand planes on this and they
bring in the North Atlantic. And at the time, the U boats were
really crazy because anyone who crossed the Atlantic in those days in a ship man
that had all the coverage in the world because the chances were you going to
get sunk and even if you're in the water, you're gone because you're in
the North atlant it's rough, it's crumbing weather and so on. But while
they were developing in this, what were they were developing other anti Yuo boat
stuff. And basically what they did is they get long range aircraft. And
the thing is is when you're flying over the water, I mean U boats
don't go way way down. You can spot them feel easily looking down and
and if they're riding on the surface. They did the calculations and they found
out that the right kind of airplanes spot the U boat turned around, went
to an attack more dropped the bomb before the U boat could submerge. So
and that was basically the end of the U boat. So they didn't need
any iceberg aircraft cab but it had been so cool, would have had like
ten thousand people on it and all these planes and stuff just don't bring it
down. Well, the other part of it, it really was a fortress
that would not easily destroyed. What it required the amount a major attack,
and at that point the Germans did not have the type of aircraft that could
have reached that crazy. I think I shared with you map when we were
prepping up for the show that when I was down in Antarctica we actually used
an iceberg as a touch and go platform to top the coast of McMurdo one
year. Yes, we found an extremely flat piece of ice and we tested
it to make sure that it would take the helicopters and not does it and
we had our own little floating island of ice ol there. Wow huh,
and what it was worth. I didn't realize that I was, you know,
following the footsteps of Lord mount Batten and oh wow, good for you.
Now you're talking about Antartica, correct, Yes, okay, I should
just remind the audience that Coca met the lovely Missus Coco and Antartica. How
often does that happen? On the way? That's correct, the way on
the way does he is the real sailor in the field. Good for you?
So why don't we do this when we take a commercial break now,
and we'll be right back after this. We just went to mention two books.
Matthew, you have a new book out. What's the name of it
police, Yeah, it's called Initiated by Matthew Roberts. Okay, what's it
about. So it's about my own personal experiences with the phenomenon and the things
that I experienced while working at the Office Enable Intelligence. What was the best
one? I mean, what's the one that keeps you up at night?
What's the craziest thing that happened to you? Not the show? It was
all crazy, you know, all of it was crazy. I mean.
Answer the one thing that I carry with me, I think is probably uh,
the event when I was woken up by this guy that looked like a
yard gnome and he told me don't give up, keep going. And so
that's that's my new motto in life, right right? Yeah? Huh,
Well, it's weird how advice came some strange places. So how long did
it take you to write the book? Well, my experience has started in
September of twenty seventeen and I beg I began journaling men and so it took
me from then until just about now to write the book. Paying the ass
to write a book, isn't it? Yes? Or no? Oh?
Yeah? Yeah? I mean the in the editing phases. I was so
tired of reading this book over and over and over and over. Wicked brother,
Yeah, what a d loves He calls me like a drunken stupid that
process at all. Ever, I don't do that, but Mac not often.
But Mac doesn't love it. It's the it's the you know, I
hate to say. It's a good living and you know, and there's not
many complaints you can make about it. But that's a drag when you have
to read it for the seventh friggin time again and you know how it's going
to go. You know, there's no surprises. Well, so Valerie also
had a book that we want to mention. Yes, Valerie has a added
to her series, A Tangled Web of Friends. Is that right, Valerie?
That's the series name. The book. The third book is the last
hour, the last hour, and and we're coming up on the last hour.
What what is it about? Can you tell? Can you tease it
for people? So it's following, stop it, stop it not going to
cut that out there, Following Josie and her friends as she tries to figure
out her gift of talking to ghosts, and it takes them down to Florida
and they actually end up off the coasts in the Gulf of Florida at an
closed down military fort where they encounter some strange things. Oh wow, huh
okay, all right, sounds sounds good. So you go on Amazon and
look we Valie Lafaso a Tangled Web of Friends. I love that the series
title. She has a new uh book adding to it. And why don't
we do this now? Why don't we take a commercial right now? And
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And it's strange because one one doesn't here. Sorry. Girls. He's
on his own secret mission, but taking his place and filling his big clown
shoes. As he points ou out early in the show, is command the
Cobra. Coky. I don't believe I used clown as a well adjective to
describe his shoes. But if the shoe fits, wear it. And I'm
desperately trying to fill one one shoes as always back a privileged to be part
of the formation. He said, size twenty four red with yellow shoelaces,
so bunting, yellow bunting, And I know I got that wrong. Okay.
Switch Blade Steve is going to be joining us later in the show.
He's also hones seecod mission but classing up and beautifying Michelle tonight. Is a
good friend and EmPATH Valerie Lafaso. Valerie, how are you doing good?
Mac? Thanks for having me. Okay, we won't call you the our
word this segment, okay, because we felt we overdid it. Okay.
Is that okay with you. That's totally fine with me. I'm good with
that, okay, because once you know you are that, you don't need
to say why do you have to be told? Right? How do you
spell it? Though? Coco? Do you know Romeo Alpha Victor, India,
Sierra Hotel, India, November Gulf. Okay, I hope you wrote
that, dom kids, So okay, thanks Valai for joining us tonight values
an mpath. She has a new she has a series out and she is
just added to the series. The name of the series is A Tangled Web
of Friends and the latest book is called what is it? Valerie? The
Last Hour? The Last Hour? Okay? Gow on Amazon dot com Valerie
Lafasso and they'll look for a Tangled Web of Friends the Last Hour. And
the ghost stories are very unusual ghost stories, I think is a good way
to describe them. So, uh yeah, so do it? So?
Uh? Are we all going to get copies Valerie? Or do we?
Did you know that already? I can get you copies if you'd like,
Okay, all right, send them to one, don't send one to one
one, don't don't waste the postage, okay, but I'll send it to
un ye, wait till it's an audiobook, or when you can get over
to his house and wait and read it right to him as he's going to
sleep, that would be a good idea. So anyway, Valerie, thanks
for joining us tonight. You appreciate it. Also joining us on the wing.
As they say. Matthew roberts Uh calling in from Arizona. Matthew was
someone who was a cryptologist on the USS Teddy Roosevelt, huge huge car when
pilots aboard that ship took what we now know as the fame Aus gimbal Ufo
video and all the repercussions that have resulted because of that. But because he
was a cryptologist, he really can't tell us much. Is that? Is
that what we're dealing with the Matthew? Yeah, unfortunately, there's there's not
a whole lot I can talk about. I can only talk about my own
personal experiences. Okay of that, yep, Okay, did you sign something?
I mean when you left, I mean when you joined, did you
sign something or did you just raise your hand and it's an oath to keep
it all? Yeah? No, of course, there's there's always paperwork you
sign whenever you're read into a program. So you're constantly signing non disclosure agreements?
Oh really? Yeah? Did you ever would you ever think of breaking
it? No? What would happen? I mean, I just end up
in I'd probably end up in jailing jail. Yeah, oh that's bad.
Yeah, okay, all right, okay, it'll be healthy. It'll be
great for book sales, though, I'll do it. It'd be great for
book sales, think about it. I mean, you have to be willing
to commit to your That's all I got to say, right, yeah,
okay, so listen rather yes, genius? Uh on the wing? Now?
Is Jesse Kwansney? Am I pronouncing that right there? Jesse? Last
name? Yeah? Yeah, Quasni yeah okay. And you're up in Montana,
right, yes, sir. He looks like he's in a jacuzzi or
something. Now you know what do you call those things? A sauna?
That's right, So that's what I'm thinking. He's up in the mountains in
a sauna. He's in Montana enjoying it. Is that right? If we
can only get a bear to walk by in the background while he's doing this
to the bear at any time, We've been having bear sightings for the last
two weeks all over town, and we don't have a lot of crime up
here. So we've been getting police text messages and alerts from all the bears
in town over the last two weeks. They're still too warm for them to
go into hibernation. And just for those that are listening in the mid part
from the country, we're talking about the animal, the genius of animal,
not the fan of the football game team from Chicago. Oh god, yeah,
why would they need the cops for them? So so listen to you
already just wander around in Montanic because they're so sad. Yeah, yeah,
okay, Well, so now you have your own a podcast. You're a
ten year OMI veterans. When were you win? When? What years did
you serve? Jesse? I was in two thousand and five to twenty fifteen.
Okay, all right, and where did you go? What did you
what did you see? Yeah? I was in Korea a couple of places
in the US. I went to Iraq a couple of times. Spent the
last few years in Baltimore City as a forced recruiter. Oh okay, but
most of my time I was in aviation and working in the UAVs. Okay,
special ops. The av teams from Forhead. Can you tell me where
you were in Iraq? Yeah? My first I was in a place called
dou Anda, Camp Echo, and the second time I was in Basra.
Did you ever remember seeing the little gray airplanes that were flying around doing ISSR
there on contract? No, not the Skymasters. Oh yeah, that was
my old o, that Coco alright flying around. Yeah, so what I
mean? So we were down at Adder at the same time. He refers
to it as the sandbox. So I mean, if you had to do
it over again, would you have gone over the dress? Did you learn
anything, see anything? Was it worth it? The first one is well
worth It's a weird thing worth it in the overall mission, I don't necessarily
know, but the experience was definitely worth the things that I saw, especially
the first one in Dwenya is a beautiful place. Spent a lot of time
flying around small villages, teaching the Iraqi Army how to manage airfields and things
like that. Yeah. Yeah, I got to travel a lot on that
first one, which was pretty cool. And what were you flying around with?
Did you get to go to um by any chance? You can get
it to boom oom? When you were down it at it m M,
yeah, because you probably were closed out. I was one of the last
you got to go there. It's one of the oldest it's the Abraham the
Old Testament, the oldest study comes from and it was right right alongside there,
and then the Iraqi government kind of closed it out from US takings to
it's supposedly the oldest city. Yeah, they started shutting down a lot and
uh yes, and they had wheat fields bigger than in Kansas. Imagine that
way back when twenty twenty two thousand years ago. So anyway, so yeah,
right, yeah, it's a strange part of the world. I mean,
I've never been over there, but you know, just from what I've
seen and just how the people iron stuff like that, it might as well
be on another planet, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty wild.
You can go from desert to immediate like oasis where our first fob was was
a really small base and it was just desert. Ever wear around and then
you just fly into this beautiful palm trees and super green area just like in
the middle of the desert. It's pretty incredible. And what were you flying
around then? What kind of point are you flying around in copters? You
h sixty black hawks the most part. Yeah, okay, how are they
rough? Every helicopter people, helicopter pilots have told me don't get on a
helicopter if you don't have to. Is that right? Well, they're not
the safest in a crash situation, then that's right, held together very well
when they hit the ground. Okay, Cocoa is a pilot. So Matthew,
would you would you agree with me? Do you like to fly?
Matthew? Yeah? Really do you? Yeah? I don't like to fly.
I don't either. I actually hate it, and I helicopters are so
uncomfortable because of the vibration that's always constantly happening inside them. It's it freaks
me out. I hate the fly. I mean, I write, I
make my living writing about flying, and I hate the fly. I'm like
that guy who wrote the greatest roller coaster book in the world and he hates
for roller coasters. Coco, were you awake? Hello, I'm just listening
to all the non aviators talking about Mike Tree. That's fine, all right,
It's okay. What's nearly fourteen thousand hours of flight time to this August
group. I'll think let's just keep moving on. Now you're counting your days
with Michael Bay doing Bad Boys too. Is that party of fourteen thousand hours?
Yeah, it was part of my fourteen thousand hours, that is correct,
Sir mac Okay, So I just got to throw this out. So
I'm listening to a show on Apple Podcasts the other day, Alexa play mc
maloney's Military Exiles on Alexa podcast and by the being with there okay, And
you were just going into your story about how you and Michael Bay, who
is one of the top ten directors in Hollywood, you have this meeting.
In quotes, his dog comes up and licks your groin and then you the
stunt helecop the pilot. Stat's giving Mike ol Bay script revisions. Correct,
Yeah, correct, with a couple of small edits to the Mike ryme.
He wiped its mud, its muzzle on my hands. Tomato, tomato,
go ahead, Okay. We're sitting at a conference table. Mister Day was
at the other end of the table. I was at the current I had
my representative or my partner from the Coastguards Hollywood Opice sitting to the left.
The various people that are part of the production that are supporting mister bay On
that going with it, yes, And I just had to make the remark
that if we're going for accuracy, these are things that I saw wrong with
the script. And he saw how the dog was reacting with me. Yes,
and he gave me too, like thirty seconds to convince him. So
I gave him, you know, both barrels. I explained to him that
stuff that had gone wrong and other movies of his that I love, Yes,
And only guys like me that are losers with the capital L on my
forehead would even care about or dare bring up. So everybody court starts shuddering.
Michael Michael Michael on the side, and he puts his hand up,
tells them to be quiet, says under my name, commander my name,
go ahead with that. And I said, well, mister b call me
Michael. I said, well that case, call me my first name.
And we went down the list. Wow, changed teams up to make them
more accurate and to have some more fun in some of those areas. And
that was just one of the many adventures along the way. When I was
collecting a government paycheck, And did you really so the government paid you while
you were filming Bad Boys too? Yes, I was. This was all
part of that that's wrong though, Like it's a huge boon for for recruiting,
and Jesse can understand this when you have a big positive part. The
Hollywood opposite of the Defense Department in the coach Guard, they get scripts all
the time, and then these directors and producers will come and say we want
to get government support, we want to have your ship to your helicopters,
your troops, and then technical advisors come and go. If they come off
active duty like I did. It was just just another one of my duties
of running squadron into down and do this meeting. And it was actually probably
one of the coolest things that happened. A flight out of Miami where the
movie was being filmed, as a guy holding my name up on our sign
for the limo, we went through that. First of all, I tried
to fly get in the front seat with the limo driver because I wanted to
talk to him, because no, no, he can't be in the front
seat, it's a rule. So he puts the wind on and we're talking
and he's telling me all this great stuff that's going on. How much people
loved working for Michael Bay he's done a number of the movies that he's been
in him. So wow, it was a really interesting time. Yeah,
and you run Uncle Sam's perrol. That's wrong, dude. You should have
done that on your rn I or something. Okay, wow, I'm just
smiling in silent. I just gotta leave you hanging their place as run.
I just you know, I think back to all the times that I was
on Uncle Sam's payroll answering your questions when you would write to me about the
book stuff. So there we go. Okay, nice, thank you.
That's another shot in charge? You charge and Mike Bay? You guys,
are I hold both of you in the same esteem? You and Michael Bay
the same esteem? Really? Yeah? I don't have any big dogs though,
as it turns out, So you in touch with him? Are you
in touch with the dogs? Yes? Or no? The dogs? The
dogs and the dogs stay in touch. Good for you. So, so,
Jesse, So what was so? So? Yeah? Ten years in
the army? Right? Okay? So was it was it? I mean
I always want to ask people, this was it what you thought was going
to be? Did you come out with a different frame of mind? I
came well, yeah, I came out with a totally different frame of mind.
I joined right out of high school, and I was eighteen, and
I had my twenty first birthday in Iraq and all these So there's no way
to spend ten years and not completely change your whole view, especially coming from
a small place in Montana and just expands everything. Yes, it was drastically
different than I thought Slash was told by recruiters in the early two thousands.
So yes, I think. I think it's mostly just learning how to adapt
to situations that you will never be really prepared for unless you're there in that
situation. There's no amount of like training or discussing it that could get you
ready for some of that. Right. Those people don't like us, though,
do they? If they had did Druthers, we wouldn't be involved with
them, right, We're just a different We're just different. Yes, yeah,
more likely than not. Yeah, yep. Yeah. Well it's too
bad it's like that, you know, But that's just the way it is.
That's what the other half of the world is like, you know,
and you know, a lot of crazy stuff happens over there. They're doing
a lot of different things with Number thirteen and the United Arab Emirates. By
the way, Coco, can you believe that is no surprise? UE is
a happening place, is it really? Yeah, we're not going to ask
you for a reading at this point. We're gonna let the show move on
a little bit. It's action with your your check onto the pulse. It's
a dip. I appreciate that. Thank you. Oh that's just confirming it.
Thank you, Coco. So, now you went back to Montan You
went back to your hometown when you came out right, okay and had a
change back here to go to school. Was it changed? It was a
little bit different. I don't know. Just the perspective is coming back to
a place that was much quieter when you spend ten years in a lot of
loud stuff, busy, super active places. To come out here to the
mountains and just be able to walk out my back door and not see anybody
for hours and hours. Cool, It's just experience, but definitely very different.
You're telling us that the cops text you and bears are around, right,
yeah, and bears are wow. Okay, that's cool. Well listen,
so before we talk about your podcast, now that I got a navy
guy and an Army guy and a coast guard guy and you're in the Air
Force too, Coca. Right, that's correct. Okay, let's talk about
the food now. Listen. For Christmas, Coco gave me a bunch of
MRIs and I had got a bunch like twenty years ago. And forget about
those, man. This is like ribs and steak and chili and stuff like
that. So thank you Coca for that. And you can heat them up
yourself and so on. So let's start with the Navy, because I always
hear about the Navy food is excellent. So Matthew, if you can rate
the food five stars, is the best on the carrier. What was it,
right? It was probably about two to three stars? Maybe? Wow?
Good. You didn't spend time on small chips, damn no, yeah,
I never ever did small boys. Yeah. So what you have to
do is you have to beat Matthew factor into that two to three and add
a one to a one point five onto it. You're sitting on a ship
that's rolling back and forth about forty five degrees port and starboard and pitching ten
and you're getting peanut butter and jelly on wonder bread. Going. Man,
this is the light. This is large. Those guys in the aircraft carrier
with limitless hot water are complaining about their seanron is not done well tonight still
load done? Yeah? Okay, so he was spoiled by being on the
bird thomb as the kids say, right, yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, so let me just go over it. Let's going with Jesse.
So Jesse food in the army. You were out in the field.
So it was just like yeahs and stuff, right, mostly when you're out
in the field, when you're down range, if you're ever on the fog,
they have a defect just like any other base, which is probably like
a two or three out of five. But yeah, everything in the field
is pretty much field raft and stuff just to eat eat occasionally. Just did
you ever get to eat those special field kitchens they would bring out. They
didn't have them a racked off, but I had it. I saw them
a few times in Germany. They come out and basically they're working on it,
basically a truck and they would actually make hot rations there and I mean,
again, pretty decent eating when you could get that line. Was it
good? When I was in Korea, we had this field problem and it
was like negative twelve degrees for two straight weeks essentially, and we had no
indoor place to sleep. So they actually shipped in those big like tractors for
two or three days to kind of give us a little break. And there's
dudes in the back and you would just kind of file right into the back
of this big truck and just grab those hot rations and it was terrible.
It was like tiny eggo waffles and eggs from a box, which would love
that, but it was warm and it was so good. Really, So
there was like mobile broken down to a smaller component, lower component. You
know, it doesn't take much to make it happy. So mobile kitchen,
which I think is probably one of the greatest lesson in the military, really
do. So these are mobile kitchens, Jesse mobile kitchens. Yeah, they
can drive it right out to you and then they have some like kind of
like a buffet if you were to go to like a conference center. There's
ye trade type setups and those big plastic jugs of water. It's a big
food truck have that lined up on the inside. And yeah, see,
I think I'll tell you this is real inside. But at Cokeland valv you
know, Rye Beach, Hampton Beach, all the way up to New Hampshire.
If you had a food truck going up there. This this like fifty
thousand people there on the summer's day here Colin right now. So they are
right now putting their reservation in the Military X files special Cuisine. So we're
going back to you, and now we're going back their force chow is.
I'm going to say, is just kind of met some message. I don't
know if you guys, I'm pretty sure Matt and Jesse know the meme or
the thing that's been going around the internet. And they show the picture of
this guy sitting down eating food and it's so good. The guy just loses
it. He's just he's saying, and he's throwing the food in his These
all smiles. Yes, And a guy has written across this this is what
happens when somebody outside the Air Force sits down and eats an airport's dining facil.
That's what it's like. The Air Force dining experience is five star,
where the rest of these guys, unless you're on a sub and they got
your captive underneath the waves, is probably one to two stars. Yeah,
But when the Air Force, there's no expense I mean, you go on
an Air Force dining facility and it's going to be tablecloths more than three times
out of the air followup, that's inappropriate. They shouldn't have that. If
the other guys don't have it, well look it. But I always heard
so, so you're you're calling this something. I'm gonna call CNN and Fox
after the show. So what you're saying, is this myth about Navy food
is just all bs because I've heard that's a recruiting tool Navy food. I
find no. I think food well, I don't know about a recruiting tool,
especially with this generation. Jesse, and please back me up because I'm
old enough to be in your current league. But go ahead. It's not
uh maybe puts a lot of effort into putting good food out because it's such
a morale requirement. And in the desert in Iraq, the Army tried really
hard with the dining facility to do the same thing. But they had third
country nationals that were working these dining facilities. They spent a lot of money,
They put a lot of stuff around until you had green bean coffee,
you have all these other kind of b was in a lot of these places
York City try to make it a little bit better, right, but you
have to. What happens is when you get broken down a component. When
you're eating an MR and that's what you eat for two weeks. When you
get something you can actually sit down with the plastic utensils, you think you're
at the rich Charlton, right, Or if you provide somebody with hot showers
three nights out of the week, you're going, oh my god, I've
never had it so good about it? Yeah, okay, all right,
so it sounds like the fls Winds. I would say in general, I
don't need the because you hadn't even bring up coast Guard. Okay, I
hate they asked the icebreaker. Yeah, how was the food in the coast
Guard? Great out, But the icebreaker, the icebreak breaker tried really hard
and I thought a really good job. In fact, it's one of the
funniest stories. A guy who does listens to show with a ship made of
mine on the icebreaker paul a Star yes, which is God bless them.
They're headed up to the North Arctic doing a mission this winter in the dark.
Good. We had to wait out in line and we all ate out
of the same dining facility, and one day a young kid two people down
from us, because I was an officer, I'm in the same line,
he started complaining that they had the same thing twice and he was really out
of shape, and the inside Commandic Corbert's head a little switchway like that,
and I just I kind of went into this whole psychopathic, really low quality
voice I got. I was just gonna go, what part of this don't
you like? Young man? It's going to be served on a clean prey
in an air conditioned environment on the ship. Have you experienced the joys of
sitting in a desert some place with thugs jumping into your food or your boddies
next to you getting sick while you're trying to eat because it's your fifteen minutes
to eat and its poor kid. I mean, I just crushed them.
I didn't need to, but it was just it seems so unbelievably unfitting to
make a complaint. Here we are an air condition ship, self specific,
headed to Andtarctica in the place because we had him two days in a row
or you gotta be kidney, what were you eating? Maybe it wasn't worth
it. Two days in a row what were you eating? Well, you
usually had some kind of beef and some kind of Yeah, that's it,
exactly meat eating. Who wouldn't get sick of that to go with it?
Plus you had leftovers that were available all the time. Wow, so you
just never went hungry on a ship? Help me out? Do you ever
go hungry? Ownership? No? Not us. You don't want to eat,
they don't eat, yeh, Jesse? How many times were you going
hungry in the art that happens? A couple of times. A couple of
times. All right, hey, Valerie, val are you hungry? I
am a little bit. Let's move on. So okay, So so Jesse
going back to you. So you started the podcast it's called Mudpie, And
but you talk about like UFOs and paranormal stuff, right right, what's the
weirdest story you've heard? What's the weirdest thing you've heard? I don't know
about weird, but probably one of the well, you know what. I
had a conversation with a person who wrote a book on food offerings of fairies
and sasquatch and aliens and how different entities would trap humans depending on the food
or drink. Throughout all these like stories throughout times. Interesting, pretty interesting
conversation. Yeah sure, yeah right, yeah yeah, so like what I
know that the the guys who look the Bigfoot, they put out big macs
and stuff, right right, But there he was talking more along the lines
of Bigfoot using food items to attract humans and so that they could keep them
essentially hostage or slaves, really extraterrestrials. Stories have been told about these,
like so what do they put in big Max? So they actually say he
said that it might just be something like twigs and sticks and bushes, but
the perception is of actual food until the person eats the food, and then
it starts to taste like ty and dirty, and then when the person comes
to it's like just nasty. Sounds like one of cocoas potties from the forest,
essentially bright Coco. Yeah, you're all going to get invited. Yeah,
you're all going to get invited to Coco's you know his spring potty.
Yeah yeah, he cannot make them, and autumn he'll win. I'll fly
you in, believe me. So well, mister uh, mister Switchblade has
just signal really, why don't we take a break then? Okay, because
so we can all kind of regroup and Okay. So you're listening to Macmoney's
Military X File show the food segment. Okay, that's what we should do,
Coco. We should do a cookbook and have all the guests. Yeah.
Absolutely, you know, but I just think it's really cool that you
have this food segment going and you're going to bring in Switchitch and then switch
from the submarine with the breakfast in the breakfast silence service and what he had
for b and his breakfast. The biggest part of the show is is that
what that means? Okay? And here he is calling you know what this
means? I could just do it with my fingers. Okay, there you
go. So when do we take a break now and we'll be back with
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have for you tonight and with JJ free, which is really weird because he's
missing a really good show he would have enjoyed us. But for sorry girls,
but for all you middle aged ladies. Coc always commanded co grow up
there in the Great White, noth Coco, good evening. Mac is always
a privileged to be part of the formation. Flying on the wing chicken wing.
Yep, okay, everything good with you? You have four feet of
snow. This is how could it not be better? I've spent eighty eight
minutes with you so far and went through evening in vain Coco and whiskey combined.
Really? Yeah? Have you ever actually mixed those two? Oh?
Yeah, absolutely, Johnny Walker Black with Nestlie's Coco. Oh, it is
the way to go, my friend, it is Jesse. You're nodding.
I guess that's in the pantheon. He knows what I'm talking about. Again.
We're going to get into cuisine of the armed forces here in a little
bit. This is one thing that would make everybody happy if you can get
a rush. No, no, no, no, you cannot put Johnny
Walker Black in Coco. What's the matter with you? Absolutely? Absolutely,
let's move on. Switch plade. Steve One a national correspondent up there in
Battle Creek, Michigan, the Battle Creek of the Republic. Switchy, how
you doing? I am beyond wonderful man. Beyond wonderful, the name of
his autobiography Okay, now listen, in the past few weeks, we've seen
a change in you. You're looking very professorial, if that's the word.
Is this by happenstance? Or you have something cooking. I don't know.
I need a haircut, but other than that, I don't know if it's
if my if it's my countenance or my my hair, the way I spell
my hair, or my deep knowledge on all subjects. That's it. It's
called cook and your modesty and the mind and your modesty, Yes, my
modesty that people have always praised me for my mind. It's a big time's
allegian. It's legion. Okay. Also joining us, by the time I
introduced everyone, the segment went, we be over value of the fasso,
our favorite impat value. How are you doing? How can you possibly be
hanging on with us here? It's a fun night. You know, you
have a good variety of guests on tonight, so this is a lot of
fun. M hmm, yeah, and half of them are loaded. Can
you tell which have you're an impact? Listen? Also with us is Matthew
Roberts, who was a cryptologist to pull with the USS Teddy Roosevelt Aircraft carrier
when the pilots on that ship filmed the famous Goufo gimbal video. Matthew,
thanks for joining us, Thank you okay, and you have books out that
we're gonna plug, don't worry. Also, our good friend Jesse Kwansei up
there in Montana, ten year army veteran, came back to Montana back to
a place that so small the cops text them when bears are about. That's
out there, baby. And he has a podcast called Mudpie, kind of
a paranormal military podcast. Thanks Jesse for joining us. We appreciate it.
Yeah, thanks for having me, okay and now joining the group. Durin
the formation and we need a doctor, doctor Bruce. How you doing tonight?
Bruce Sallheim? Hey, right, yeah, hello, wallow to everybody.
Where are you out in California? Somewhere? Yeah? Near Los Angeles?
Really? Yeah? Huh? What's it like out there these days?
Is it hot? Is it warm? Is it it's warm? Yep?
Okay, yep. So listen, so before we start what, Yeah,
we've been talking for about an hour on like military food, and we had
a couple of comments off here, so we're going to get back that we
have to time outfore we have to get back to switch. This is rated
the highest skew of our entire two hour show. Okay, look he's shaking
his head and discussed. But I'll tell you it's false modesty. It's not
discussed. Okay, I'm not discussed. I used the wrong word. Another
word, incredulity. Is that wow slowed down the egg head on sweat.
Wow. There was a lot of syllables. Yes, he has que guites
and he's got the big cup. So listen, everyone wants to know,
Switchy, what did you have for breakfast? Uh? This? Uh?
This morning? I had Uh. I made a couple of scrambled eggs.
We have to added some green pepper green and a little bit of shredded cheese
Colby Jack short of cheese, really, And I had three strips of bacon
and had a little bit of corn beef hash leftover, just a little bit,
so I added that and then two toasted two pieces of white toast.
Not you know, not the stuff off the shelf, but the stuff on
the bakery's side in the store. Sure, And next trying to say yes,
well, actually the intlement is on the opposite side of the as a
particular store. But that's another story. Wow, and added some uh land
of lakes of butter, the sauce bread, the sauce bread, yeah,
the fake butter. Okay, yep, all right, with hot black coffee
and orange juice. Wow, orange juice. You tied to a guy who
has a piece of toast every morning. So you know the bacon. Let
me just ask you, what was the bacon? Was it within the expiration
date? Yes, I suspect it was funky and it tasted pretty good.
That's you shouldn't suspect those things. You should nail those down. We got
a lot of we got a lot of e mails wondering about whether you should
be eating expired bacon or not. But then people are saying, bacon,
never bacon. I had a couple of weeks ago there was some bacon that
was definitely suspect, and so I got rid of it. You got rid
of it. You did the right thing. So listen. But people write
into me and say, bacon never go bacon never goes wrong. The whole
idea of bacon is that it's salted pork. Coco. You should know this,
but salted pork absolutely, yes? What what what do I look like?
I would know the insight track on bacon. Well you have pigs,
you you you have bacon walking around your back? You got no, no,
no pigs. Okay, of courses, all right, geese chickens.
Missus Cobra does want to get a baby pick? Really she said that to
you. I say, look at me, sweetheart, Coco doing material.
So listen. So, Bruce, I just remember our last conversation when the
last thing you said before we went off the year is that you had you
had relatives who were in the Gestapo. Correct, Yes, my dad's youngest
sister sister. Okay, so talk about books. So yeah, So what
was she up to? Well, she worked in Oslo, the capital city,
and she worked with a guy named Colonel Famer, and her job was
to find members of the underground and she was able to lure like nine of
them and they were all captured and ultimately tortured and executed. So she was
charged with war crimes and sentenced to death and she was going to be shot
at the at the Akers whose castle there in Oslo in the harbor. But
then my dad's oldest brother was a war hero convoy commander working for the British
and he used his reputation and all of his money to get her sentence commuted
to life, of which she only did nine years. And did she did
she get out of did she die in prison? No, she got out
after nine years. She claimed that she had gone insane, but she was
crazy like a fox. Well they got out and did very well, as
had a c P A business. Yeah, Coco, this is the movie,
A Strange Lady, this is the movie. Wow, Doctor Bruce had
explained a little bit and we shot a little bit of air. Yeah,
it's a it's a crazy word crazy. So he's got a break a junk
that by oh man, there was there was actually a movie. Uh,
she wasn't in the movie, but there was a Norwegian movie called Max Manus.
He's a famous resistance fighter and there's a scene where there they set up
to the members of the resistance at a cafe in Oslo. And actually it
was my aunt who set up that at that meet okay, and that led
to their capture. We're getting texts, Yeah, she was. She was
pretty pretty infamous. We're getting texts and emails. Everyone wants to know what
what she looked like. Was she someone who was alluring them like a BA
type thing. Yes, she was very attractive. I have yes everyone.
I think I might have showed it briefly a TV radio show. Cousin wrote
a book. Yes, and the title that's in Norwegian look at doing and
shook optaine. It means the decoy and the sea captain. Yes and there.
It's kind of a look there. Okay, do you have a picture
of her? And then there she is and my uncle who was the war
hero, a little bit of a Judy. This is a pretty attractive judy
gown, wizard of She had a country girl. She had an innocent country
girl look. But she was not innocent, wow, writes itself. Okay,
good for you. Yeah, so she was. She was deadly,
very deadly, very interesting. Uh, lady she had she was unrepentant as
a as a Nazi really so really, I mean she had Nazi books on
her bookshelf. Spoke perfect German. Uh, to the point where German people
I knew thought she was German. So how does she know German so well?
She was Norwegian? Norwegian? Yeah, no Norwegian? Wow, huh.
Yeah. So that's the reason that that's the reason I'm here in the
United States because my dad and my mom didn't want to hear, or especially
my dad didn't want to hear about his Nazi sister anymore. After the war,
as you can gather, it was pretty unpopular story. So they moved
to America to kind of get away from that. You know, it's kind
of like being Charles Manson's brother or something. Wow, you want to get
away from it. He's a tough guy to wow. Huh. Yeah.
So listen. So now you were a NAMI pilot, right, Yeah,
I started off as an E one. I was a jail guard in a
military prison. Okay. I worked in a state prison too, maximum security,
went back in, went to flight school, yes, and I became
a warrant officer. I was in the air calf. I was a scout,
aerial scout, okay. And well, Jesse was Jesse did a bunch.
He did some toys in Iraq, and he was ferried around a lot
in black Hawks and so on and so forth. Right, Jesse, Yes,
sir, I was the aviation ops guy. And then a battle in
co for some flight type units, small small little detachment. Say. I
spent a lot of time in the U age sixties, once or twice in
a fifty eight. Yeah, so I was well, I was in so
long ago that the Blackhawks were just coming in when I left the service.
So really yeah, okay, I flew I flew us quite a bit.
The old uh one. I gotta say, you don't that I love you.
Don't look that old doctor Gros. You don't. But that's that's a
while ago. Yeah, the Hues they're still around though. Hues are still
around, right yeah, not left on act of duty, oh non,
okay, yeah, but I think they have some at Fort Irwin for like
op forces training, op for training and stuff like that, right, yeah,
special use, but yeah, not on acturbute. People always talk about
like classic airplanes and stuff like that. If you ever want to talk about
a classic helicopter, the Hue has like did everything and for years and years
and years, real utility in excess of twelve thousand of those air preferable really
yeah, and there's still variance today. They're out there flying. Were they
easy to fly? Easy? Uh? Huh. All helicopters are difficult to
fly. But I would say I like the Healey a lot. It was
very simple technology and I didn't have a lot of fancy stuff that would break
and it was easier to maintain for the guys to maintain yep, the electronics
and the you know, the mechanical parts of it. So it was in
that way it was it was better because when the the other helped, the
newer ones came in, especially the apaches, he had a lot of downtime
for maintenance and very fancy. Yeah, they're fancy. So like I flew
with guys who flew the Cobra too, so right, And although my friend
who flew Cobras he liked, uh, he liked the the black he went
transitioned into black Hawks. He liked those better. Like Cobra's was skinny Hueyes,
you know they were like skinny hueyes, in a way. Yeah,
same company, yeah, same company. So had a narrow profile. Right
Where were where were you flying? Where were you doing all your flying in
the hulleyes? Uh, it was in Uh. I never went into combat.
I always like to say that, but I was at Fort Bragg.
I was in eighty second Airborne. Really yeah, wow, you one of
those guys. Geez, you were copped the pilot in the eighty second Airborne.
Yeah, first seventeenth Air Cavalry and also the Combat Aviation Battalion. Yeah,
well and and then yeah yeah, Jesse, So listen, so when
you were in what were you win? What was the name of your unit
and so on? Uh, well, it depends on where my first deployment,
I was part of second Brigade Combat Team, fourth Infantry Division. Okay.
When I was in Korea, I worked in second CAB two I D
And then my last just like station before I was a recruiter, was Task
Force Odin and forthood. So I kind of jumped around every couple of years.
So what do you think of these what do you think of these eighty
second end one guys? What do you think of these guys? Are they
they walking around like the rock stars? Correct? Yeah, they are quite
an air of whoa I believe the word is pachet. They have a certain
paschet. Oh really yeah? Okay, wow, Okay, let's which has
many meetings in the army. Sorry, doctor Bruce, Sorry, you should
have got us that marijuana description. So let's let's go up to Let's go
up the valerie, our mpath valerie. Can he give us a pulse?
Please? She's looking as disgusted as she's ever bad. Please tell us I'm
not disgusted now, okay, but it's good. Like I said, there's
a good variety of guests, so it's you know, the energy is high
in a positive way. Can you imagine if wan one was here what this
would be like. It'd be totally it. We'd be like the Three Stooges
in nine little frames. Right. So so all right, let's go back
to food. Okay, for some reason, we're talking about military food tonight.
I'm sorry, but gros Off the year you said that you were in
a military prison, correct, So it is an army military prison. Yeah,
it was the US Army confinement facility in Mannheim, West Germany when it
was East and West Germany. That sounds it really no longer exists. I
think they tore it down. But it was horrible, okay, And it
was we'd have to eat the prison food made by the prisoners, which is
not that's a scary proposition. So the food was horrible. So I ended
up just bringing my own food. But every once in a while I put
my life on the line and ate some of the real from there. It.
Let I tell you this one night, go ahead, that they had
three three of the cooks in there were were murderers. They had committed at
least one murder. And they all had knives and they were like cutting beef
and stuff. And I'm thinking, who, who's the knucklehead who put these
three guys in the kitchen with knives? Yeah, and one of them had
actually stabbed somebody to death? You know, really, has that knucklehead made
that assign? Wow? And and it wasn't like they were spinning. Let's
go, let's talk fault the inspiration of your culinary chest. Right, yeah,
you never leave, doctor Bruce. Let's have a more open mind,
really, doctor Bruce. Listen, it wasn't like they were spitting in your
food, right, The prisoners wouldn't do that to the prison gods a person.
Okay, all right, so you don't have to worry there. In
the maximum security prison that I worked in in Minnesota, we found like metal
shavings, like from a metal lathe go ahead. And then the mashed potatoes.
Oh really, yeah, trying to put a little iron into your diet.
Understand why it has to be such negativity, bumping on the negative,
the bumping out. That was the first and last time I ate in that
maximum scirity dining hall. So listen to get into Matt, I just kind
of throw this out back. I'm yes, go ahead, food on the
Teddy Roosevelt. Starting to sound a little bit better. Now, Yeah,
I'm not hugging anymore? Are we bumping up the star? I have a
little did I know? I was fine dining on the aircraft carrier right,
It was like you were on a cruise. Wow. As a professor.
I was visiting the Boxer, the USS Boxer, Yes, the amphibious assault
ship and we went from Singapore to uh Fouquet in Thailand and uh so I
was a civilian on board as a professor, teaching them how to use how
to do online education. This is like before nine to eleven, so this
is a long time ago. Go ahead. But they said I could eat
with the officers, right, And I did that and then I thought that's
pretty boring. So then they said, well, you know you can if
you want to eat with the crew, you can. So I went and
I stood online, you know, with the with the crew, and they
said, hey, you can be in front of me, and I said
no, I'll wait my turn. I got there and there's like a dog
dish, you know. They gave me and by the time I got through
the line, there was hardly any food less. Oh and I sat down
and these guys are looking at me like, why are you eating with us?
Yeah, and you should be eaten in the officers mess I said no,
I wanted to be with the crew, and then they kind of thought
that was cool. So yeah, okay, all right, but yeah,
it just reminds me that I think the food is okay, there just wasn't
enough of it by the time I got through the jewel line. So so
going back to the prison for a second. What's the name of the prison
because it just sounds terrible. The US Army Confinement Facility in Mannheim, West
German. Okay, so what so these are we had a population go ahead,
these are all Army and Air Force guys. Army and Air Force.
We always had about two hundred of them from all over the European Command.
And what was just like from seventy nine to eighty one. Wow, that's
when I was there. How old are you? You look like you're about
We have murderers, we had yet, go ahead, we had murderers,
rapists, we had guys selling arms and ammunition to terrorists. You know,
we had all kinds of terrible. Really. Yeah, so that's what it
took. That's what it took, something like that to get locked up where
you were. Well, we had those guys, and then we had the
guys who hit their commanding officer too or did something, you know, in
subordination. They were there for a shorter period of time. But the ones
that did serious stuff, we processed them to go back to Fort Leavenworth to
do hard time. Yes, yeah, at the disciplinary bars make little rocks
out of big ones. That was not the place to go. No,
Hey, Jesse, I gartered a guy on death row. Oh really on
death row. They're at the disciplinary ver he wanted to I remember that guy.
Yeah, did he want to go? Oh? Was he afraid?
Did he want to go? Or was he He was nuts? He was
completely nuts, nuts, He was completely nuts. He killed three guys in
a tank. He was he was a tank commander, he was an n
c O. And he fired his tank into another tank and killed the guys
that were I think it was at least three guys in there that died.
And he gave no reason other than he wanted to get out of the army.
That was the only thing I heard well that did it, so he
was sentenced to death. He rimmed his tank into another tank and killed the
three guys in his tank. He shot a round into another tank. Really,
I think they called it a sable Yeah. Yeah, the sable round
goes through the goes through the hall and explodes inside. Yeah. Wow wow,
what a way. Yeah, what a way to get out of the
army. Yeah. People can look him up. Wyatt, Wyatt, Matthews.
His sentence was commuted though it was he's doing life. Really he should
have been like Clinger and didn't get put to death, should have been like
Cleaner and wore address. Three people would still be around today. Hey,
listen, Jesse, you I haven't wanted to take a swing at one of
your offices ever. Want to take a swing at one of your offices?
Have you taken a swing at one of your offices? I don't think I've
ever taken a I've gotten in some pretty heated arguments, but I think in
the especially like downrange, when most of those conflicts would happen, everybody kind
understands for the most part that it's just tensions are really high and conflict like
that's more likely going to happen at some point. So were you ever in
a tight spot in Iraq? Justing, yes, yes, tell us the
tell us the hairiest one please m One time, I think I was working
at this airfield and we had just gotten to this airfield, really small little
fob, really small airfield that could hold I think four U Age sixties and
then one really small foreign aircraft because we were working with coalition forces like some
people from other countries, and we had gotten probably like forty or fifty rocket
like landing inside of this small area in a matter of like two hours.
Maybe it destroyed our defact, destroyed a bunch of the barracks that we were
in, destroyed the truck that was like parked right behind the building that I
was in with my soldiers. Basically like when the round started coming in,
we had our soldiers like out as a E five E six at the time,
so I had five or six soldiers directly under me, yep, and
we just basically told them all to drop to the floor. And then when
we dropped down, big blasts and we look up and there's just metal shrapnel
just high enough over the HESCO barriers. Because we used to have these big
sand like this big sand bag things filled with rocks and gravel and stuff to
kind of prevent shrapnel fire from getting like five feet in below. But everything
over that was just pretty much trashed through our whole living area and eating area,
and it was it was a mess. I think some dude died in
the outhouse, a couple of Arzilians died in the building. And yeah,
it was a rough couple hours. Yeah, two hours, man, Oh
geez, that's really tough. So it's funny we talked about military food,
but like, I couldn't believe anything they stood after that. It's the only
thing I can say. So, yeah, who was you know, mortoring
you? It sounds like a rocketing with like Iraqi insurgents, Saddam's boys that
yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, mostly insurgency. It's just there's so
many used They have access to so many of these old rounds and rockets,
and they would just jerry rigamond old rails and this place was in a really
bad location. There was a lot of terrain much higher farther away, and
they could just basically aim rocket rails down, set them on timers and you'd
never find these people because they could walk away for an hour or two,
and then it would just be one after another until however many rockets they had
wow finish firing off. Yeah, they got real good at it. They
got real good at improvising stuff. You know. I hate to say,
Hey, listen, so we're coming to the end, so I'm gonna have
everyone plug. Okay, so let's not Bruce. Let's start with you,
Bruce. What are you doing lately? Please tell us? Well, I'm
working on a actually a comic book. It comes out in the free Yes,
got a radio show not but yeah. Is it about a non Yeah,
so that's pretty cool. Is it about probably March April? Is it
about dark too? So it's actually the same. It's it's a graphic novel.
The first one was a comic, but this one's actually graphic novel.
Is it about a knock? That's no, it's about it. It's an
alien hybrid character comes to Earth with a mission to uh prepare us for invasion?
So good sounds good sci fi humor history. Okay, welcome back on
when it comes out, let us know, come back on okay, yes,
okay. And that's a great story about your your aunt, right,
you're good looking aunt? Is that what happened your aunt. Yeah, she
was. She was always. She kept herself very you know, till the
end. Really she died and I think she's about eighty, but she still
looked pretty good. But yeah, kind of an evil, evil heart.
It's a real good thing. Loved animals though, isn't it. She loved
animals, Oh my goodness. Yes, she loved animals more than people.
So she took in rescue animals and stuff. Really. Yeah, Okay,
well that's uh, the fact I didn't want to get on her talk politics.
It's good advice anyone. Thank you doctor Bruce for joining us. We'll
talk to real soon. Okay, looking forward to the comic book. Yeah,
I appreciate it. Cool. Hey Jesse, thanks for joining us once
again. You plug your podcast. We had a lot of fun. I
was on there about a month ago. I saw we had a lot of
fun. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah. My podcast is mud
By Podcast I do with my friend Ryan. Will you talk about any fringe
topics specifically or mostly UFO's conspiracy, alternative history type things, really, anything
that's not generally discussed among circles of people. Did you see anything when you
were in Iraq? Did you see anything weird flying around paranormal, you know,
not that not that I noticed. And at that point in my life,
I wasn't really looking into that stuff, so I was looking forward or
really my mind wasn't really open to any of that. I was just kind
of focused on what we were doing right there. Yeah, right, mud
Pie mud Pie Podcast. It's really cool. Yeah, we got a good
time on that. Thanks for joining us, Jess. We'll talk to soon.
Okay, thank you, Hey, matth Thanks Matthew Roberts up there in
uh in, Arizona. The name of your book again, Matthew. It's
called Initiated by Matthew Robert. It's available on Amazon in digital form or paperback.
Matthew Roberts. Yeah, I've read it. It's a great book.
It's a good there you go, and that's not long, matt I read
it. I read your book, just got it and I read it right
through really quick. It was really good. Wow. Good for you,
Yeah, good for you, Good for you. Yeah, Matthew, Yeah,
it must be a great book. Thanks for joining us, and thanks
for putting the light the myth that navy food is good. It's just kind
of meant some Messa. Thank you. Thank you for having me. We'll
talk to you soon. Okay, Valerie, I hate to say goodbye to
you because you're ravishing listen, so just give us give us a report card
for the two wows please. It's it's been an interesting show. You know,
You've had some uh different topics from what I'm used to you guys talking
about. So okay, it's good. It's been a it's been a good
show like food. Okay, all right, well, thanks for joining us.
We really appreciate. We'll talk to you soon. In the name of
your book is a friends series. The newest one is the Last Hour.
The Last Hour, okay, go on Amazon value Lafasso. The Tangled Web
of Friends is the name of the series, right yep, okay, thanks
for joining having me on. Switchy has the train Wreck image up and back
of them, so that means the show is coming to an end. Thank
you, professor, Switch my pleasure. Okay, you sure you're not taking
on my really quick Switch. We had a sweet Waters update. It's coming,
so military's actually it's coming. So we're in negotiation. Yes, we're
in negotiations. Switch is going to be an employee at sweet Waters Donut Mill
and Balot Cree, Michigan sometime in January, we hope, and he's going
to be an employee for a while. It's going to involve making donuts and
also pushing the broom. Switchy, you're okay with both of those things.
I'm okay with all those things. And also i'd like to say you can
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I'm also featured in The Mothman Legacy by Small Town Monsters as one of the
talking heads, which is a sequel to The Mothman of Point Pleasant. And
I'm also writing a book as yet to have a title. Wow, he's
never been out sometime this decade. He's never plugged anything before. Home of
a sudden. This is something he's on adderall or something. Something's up from
him. Yes, would they call it? There was no label in the
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