1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:22,000 in the UK and around the world. Right made one of their own right 3 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:25,039 javigating I'm a more gun Right third agree you've done that that with thirty eight 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,960 test operation the restrictory of two five z early arey thirty one Roger track here 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,000 White Oman is a gibling some novelistic motion over Roger areas thirty one continue to 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,840 sign a Jorge's pression of Okay, Travis broke you head on alder right and 7 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,479 really moving right right now. There are one thousand UFO sightings reported around the 8 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,079 world every month. Ninety percent of these sightings can be explained, but ten 9 00:00:50,119 --> 00:00:56,159 percent cannot. Officially and unofficially, the US military has been investigating the UFOs 10 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,840 since nineteen forty seven. Their top secret goal is to mine out behind these 11 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:07,760 unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies them as unusual airborne anomalies, but a better 12 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,239 term is X files. Join us now as Mac one one and Commander Cobra 13 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:19,200 explore these unsolved cases UFO incidents that baffle even the US military. This is 14 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:26,599 Mac Maloney's military X files, and now here's Mac Maloney. Well, good 15 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,840 evening, everyone who welcome to Mac Maloney's Militrank's on show here on the Distant 16 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,840 thundunt Or Radio Network. This is Mac Maloney. What a show we have 17 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,959 in store for you tonight. The first I have to introduce the members of 18 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,439 the posse, and I have to apologize what upfront of girls. Yeah, 19 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,879 you may still need your big box of clinics, and your fan and your 20 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,519 misters and your economy pack of wives, but the very famous JJ is not 21 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:51,760 here tonight, not here on a secret mission called the Way at the last 22 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:56,719 minute, but he's here in spirit. However, girls you're not shouldn't be 23 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,480 completely disappointed because up there in the Great to Maine, I think right right 24 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,920 now and his compound, formerly his book, they know him is Cocoa on 25 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:10,240 the street, but we know him as Commanda cobra cec Addy. Mac has 26 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:15,240 always acause you do join the formation speak shoes that might have to fill with 27 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:21,719 the JJ absence tonight. What is he about? Fourteen and a half. 28 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,240 I'd just like to add that we are in multiple feet of snow up here 29 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:32,280 in the Great White North. Animals are frolicking in at least two to three 30 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:36,560 feet of the snow light powder. It's the middle of June. Why is 31 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,000 it still snowing up there? Oh? You know that's so low climate. 32 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:46,039 Is there something that we just live like we like watching television up here in 33 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,759 May? Mm hmm okay, hey listen. I was reading something about remember 34 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,719 the TV show Murder? She wrote, Yes, okay, didn't that take 35 00:02:55,719 --> 00:03:01,439 place in a town in Maine? Crabs something, crab tree, crab, 36 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,719 crabbit cove someone added up. I mean, murders are in that place, 37 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:13,360 like over the twelve years the show was on and it was one hundreds of 38 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,319 muri. Yeah, there's more. It's it's better than Chicago. Everyone in 39 00:03:17,319 --> 00:03:21,759 the place get killed. You didn't buy the population, if you I mean, 40 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:23,639 if you did it by the population, right, wouldn't someone come in 41 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,240 and say, hey, something odd, there's something wrong. But she solved 42 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,840 them all. Not in Maine. It was just another thing. I'm just 43 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,479 telling you, not me, okay. But it is the great state of 44 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,800 Man. It's a great place. If you like seafood, it is a 45 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,120 great state. It is so and maple syrup, you know, all those 46 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:52,439 kinds of cheap weed. Hag on, who's listen? Uh? Switchy is 47 00:03:52,439 --> 00:03:54,840 going to be joining us. Uh. Information is that what they say when 48 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,879 someone joins the lake? What's what's the going to join the formation? Is 49 00:03:58,919 --> 00:04:02,560 why we're why we're in to the fun changing, ever changing target at mcwully's 50 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:08,599 called here a twelve Wow. Okay, so a number of people be joining 51 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:13,439 us in a little while. But really classing up the show right from the 52 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:16,240 beginning is our good friend Valerie and Lafasso. Hi, Val, how are 53 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:21,040 you doing? I'm doing good. I'm really excited to be back here with 54 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:25,839 you guys. Coco said it off. Yeah, but I'll say again, 55 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,519 can I say you look ravaging as well? He already said it. We 56 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,920 have him on Faye. Yeah, okay, it's like an early It's like 57 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,959 an early gift when you see Bell and she's got this kind of glow to 58 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,120 me, right, we don't have it, so when we see it, 59 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,959 we know it. Jay I thank god this is radio because if they saw 60 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,600 this, it looks like dim balls and a certain So there you go. 61 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,800 I get the dim palm spot. So listen. Soette, what's going on 62 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,759 with you? What's you know? You have a new book coming out? 63 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,959 Right? Yeah, it's already out. I re released the first two books 64 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:05,319 in my series. The second editions have been released and the third book in 65 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,439 the series is out for the first time ever. So what's the name? 66 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:14,079 Super exciting for me? Okay, the titles of the names. The title 67 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,160 of the series is Tangled Web of Friends. The first book is Summer Camp, 68 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:25,399 the second book is The Witches of Fishcale Pond, and the third book 69 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,839 is titled The Last Hour. Oh, okay, let's go to Summer Camp. 70 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,319 What's that about's? What can you tell us about that? So Summer 71 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:39,560 Camp follows the main character, whose name is Josie, who is not a 72 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,000 hiker or camper, but her parents send her on this week long hiking camp 73 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:51,000 actually up in the Cataden area of Maine is where they go, and through 74 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,519 a series of events, she starts seeing ghosts while she's out there, and 75 00:05:55,519 --> 00:06:00,360 they get stranded in an abandoned house. And so this this series is going 76 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:03,680 to follow her and the friends that she makes on this trip and how she 77 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,920 deals with being able to talk to ghosts and how it affects the people around 78 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:12,879 her, the relationships she has with living and dead people and all that sort 79 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,199 of thing. And if people were interested in grabbing where would one find these 80 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,959 They are available on Burns and Noble Amazon. The first two are in ebook 81 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,720 as well, but they're on all the major you know booksellers online. Okay, 82 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:30,240 so what's the name of the series again? What's the name of the 83 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:36,399 series again? Tangled Web of Friends? Okay, and so just go to 84 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:45,399 Amazon dot com and look up st Entangled Web of Friends? Right, Yeah, 85 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:48,079 are these g rated? Are they slightly rated? I almost said, 86 00:06:48,079 --> 00:06:54,680 actually, I'm guessing they're definitely not r rated. I actually my original editor 87 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,480 is pretty strict about language, and I'm pretty grateful for that. But you 88 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,639 know, people get nervous because it's ghosts. It's scary, but it's they're 89 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:06,360 really more about the relationships than about scare. I mean, there is some 90 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,519 scary parts, of course, you know, you're dealing with things that we 91 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,600 don't quite understand, so that can be scary. But I've had kids as 92 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,160 young as ten years old read them up to people in their eighties, and 93 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:24,800 they all that brings in most of the posse. They're right there, right, 94 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:30,720 year old category up for the rest of us. Switch all we have 95 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:33,480 to switch. Remember this is on tape. Yeah, yeah, that sounds 96 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:36,040 good. You know, I can see you know, people getting hit that 97 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:41,279 people love to get scared, people love ghost stars, you know, and 98 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:46,240 is an endless well of ghost stories. Yeah, and you know these aren't 99 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,720 necessarily your average ghost stories. You know. I've been lucky enough. I 100 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:56,040 learned that I was a medium while writing these books, so I've been able 101 00:07:56,079 --> 00:07:59,279 to put my own experiences into a lot of it, as well as bringing 102 00:07:59,319 --> 00:08:03,360 the experience of all the different intuitives that I've met over you know, the 103 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:07,480 last twelve or so years that I've been working on these. So, so 104 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:13,879 you are you are an I think it's yes, empathic medium? Yes, 105 00:08:13,399 --> 00:08:16,480 a medium? Okay, right? Is that a gift? Is that a 106 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:22,240 gift or a burden? Or is it all depends on the minute of the 107 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:28,399 day. No, it's it's mostly a gift. Once you learn how to 108 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:33,120 understand and manage the energy, it can be very draining, you know, 109 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:39,480 and paths can be very susceptible to depression and anxiety because we're constantly feeling the 110 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,480 energy of everything around us and we don't always know what's going on, or 111 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:48,120 it's just so overwhelming, so we need to take care of ourselves and charge 112 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,639 ourselves and hang on to as much energy as possible. So it can be 113 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,000 tough, but once you know how to manage it, it's pretty amazing. 114 00:08:56,279 --> 00:09:01,679 I think this might be a tough two hours. Hopefully you're hang in with 115 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:05,240 us. We can be as charging or as charging as possible. Just tell 116 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,039 us what, you know, what mode we're in, right? But you 117 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:11,080 know, I don't want you to think though that like you're doing something to 118 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,000 drain me. It's it's just how it is. Everything on this planet has 119 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,240 energy, Everything has the potential to be draining or charging, and it's just 120 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:24,960 figuring out which is which and how I have to move throughout those situations. 121 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,960 Well. And really, from what I've experienced, a lot of people have 122 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,600 some empathic tendencies, except maybe sociopaths. But I mean, I only said 123 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:41,600 I don't, but of course I do, right, right, right I 124 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:45,080 I I, yeah, I don't know what I have to do the truth, 125 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,600 but I know that people there are definitely people who are a little bit 126 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:52,120 more tuned into things than other people, There's no doubt about it. And 127 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:56,320 one of them. Yeah, and you know, some some people definitely seem 128 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,120 thrown into it. You know, they're not given a choice. It's that 129 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,639 happened to them, no matter what if they want it or not, and 130 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,639 then other people really want it and learn how to figure it out, right, 131 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:11,440 yeah, now, and then there's everybody in between. So the reluctant 132 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:15,679 medium, how about that. There's a TV show. You know, she's 133 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,879 a medium, she can do it all, but she's kind of reluctant to 134 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,399 be like that. But people are always coming to her from how we can 135 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,320 put her in a little fishing village in Maine. Come on, rights itself 136 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,440 anyway? Okay, So anyway, so you never know, you never know 137 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,840 it was right. You know, then we can we could start, we 138 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,639 could be ourselves in it. So listen, Coco, I want to thank 139 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:39,519 you for the coffee beer, by the way, the coffee beer that you 140 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:46,320 gave. Yes are you? Are you kind of digging that, I'll be 141 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:48,759 honest. You know, if Christmas, Coco gave me a four pack? 142 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:56,639 Was it a four pack? Yes, of ribbon had coffee, hard coffee, 143 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,240 right, So it's a malted liquor, which I don't and all you 144 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,759 have to drink two or three regular beers before you drink one, you know. 145 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,159 That's I mean, just that's that's my well safety tip, safety tip 146 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,320 of pat to mac or making sure you line up your proper beer arrangement, 147 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,879 because no one likes to go into battle and not have the proper order. 148 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,639 You have to kind of make sure a few kids out there, because you 149 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,879 know, Paps is the drink of the cool kids, right. So the 150 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:31,639 story behind my grandfather, the maternal one love Paps blue Ribbon, and I 151 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:35,200 remember sneaking that that probably the first time having a drink and almost throwing up. 152 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:41,200 No takeaway from Paps flu ruine. But I've heard everyone raving about this 153 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,039 hard copy. And when I threw a party not too long ago, I 154 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,240 didn't have enough Paps because the younger set was amongst me, and they were 155 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,279 kind of put out that things like He's find German Ales a couple of local 156 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,200 micro brewis, and Sam Adams was a fan their palate. They didn't. 157 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,799 So I tried. I tried to keep you, did you yeah? Keep 158 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,120 young? Yes, said why did you do that to those kids? Work? 159 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:16,120 I did? They all get a trophy before they left? Though I'm 160 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:20,159 with you, I mean, you know, hey, now you're going into 161 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:22,440 the sociology. Okay, we don't want to go down, not with Jake, 162 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:26,000 not with one one. Not here. If I was going to make 163 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:31,759 a trophy. I would glue al can on a piece of two by four, 164 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:35,159 right, yeah, and I know you know someone who could do that. 165 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,919 Yeah, just say here it is I did this. Yeah, it's 166 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,039 you know that that beer has been around nothinking down this road. That beer 167 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,080 has been around forever. You know, it used to be basically an economy 168 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,200 beer. Someone bought it and they and they yep, yep to fight. 169 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:50,399 I'm saying that in an advertising term. You know, it's the same old 170 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:54,519 beer. There's no sense in paying the buck fifty more for the last. 171 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,639 But anyway, that's just me. So why don't we have a top ten 172 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,320 tonight top and weird warships? How about that? Do you want to do 173 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,159 it? Now? You know, when do we do this? Why don't 174 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:07,200 we take a break and then we'll do it? Okay, see if we 175 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,200 can pick up some stragglers along the way. What do you say, Cochle, 176 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,960 I'm looking at you. You never know, you never know the net. 177 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:18,720 When we're on a CAP tonight, folks, for the military folks, 178 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:22,320 they know what that means. Folks. We're on a combat air control tonight. 179 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,679 Right out there working the airspace is a three perch in formation tonight and 180 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,840 who knows We're going to snag in the net. That's yeah, okay, 181 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:37,559 there's a joke this somewhere, but I know what. Thanks? Thanks me. 182 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,519 Why don't we take a break now, and when we come back, 183 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,000 someone will be with us. I think you know, Switchy, you know 184 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:46,240 who knows. So you're listening to Macloney's Militar's Not show here on the Distant 185 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:52,080 Thunder Radio Network. Stay tuned. We'll be right back after this. Do 186 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,840 you know where the world's most secret bases are located? Do you know what 187 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,720 spooky action at a distance means? 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Get 203 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,279 into the beautiful mind of one one only on the mc maloney Military X File 204 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:50,399 show, Welcome Back, and we went to mac Maloney's Military Sun Show here 205 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,320 on the Distant Thunder Radio that way. I gotta put my shades on. 206 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,480 This is macaroniey Wyll. What a show we have for you tonight. But 207 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,039 let me just introduce the members of the posse and it's going to be growing 208 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:07,480 and growing and growing. My good friend commanded Cobus here Coco, how you 209 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:14,480 doing. She's always a privileged for me. He's saluting me. I gotta 210 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,639 salute him. JJ is on a secret mission called the Way. At the 211 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:21,840 last second, he won't be joining us girls. Sorry, Switchy is coming 212 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,159 during the full mission sometime during the show, but with us classing up the 213 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,679 show like putting you a dose of flowers on the table, A good friend. 214 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:33,440 Valerie Laso, Hi, Val, how are you doing? Hi? 215 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:38,279 How are you? Zoom has to work on their audio portion of things. 216 00:16:38,279 --> 00:16:42,440 We're great, Cocoa and I are great, and thanks for joining us tonight. 217 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:47,120 You look, we've already established you look ravishing tonight. We've said that 218 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:51,120 three or four times tonight. Let's move on. So listen, we have 219 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:55,039 a ton I think what she's saying is mac let's move on. We don't 220 00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:57,919 need to talk about her ravishiness anymore. Baby towards the end, Okay, 221 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,559 that's what those hands say. But she's an EmPATH. She already knew that. 222 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:03,759 She knew she knows he's an empaths. She already knew that, So 223 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:11,680 she knew that then that she was descending in we have a top ten uh 224 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:14,920 list. But listen, we've just had a guest joined us. Should we 225 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,599 bring him in on the air? What do you think, Coco? Or 226 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,920 should we stop the show again? It's we're only not even no, no, 227 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,039 no, absolutely bring in. This kind of rolling rumble is always fun. 228 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,799 Wow, yeah you will see watch this train wreck. Okay, here 229 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,480 we go, because you've got to tell people before they're on the air that 230 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:37,000 they're on the air. Here we go, Well, here we go. 231 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:41,480 This is live. Hi Matthew, how are you doing? Matthew? Hi, 232 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,240 Matthew, do this is what you go through? Hi? Matthew, 233 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:48,440 Good, how are you doing? Hey? Listen, we're on the air. 234 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,599 Okay, we're on the air. I just have to say that. 235 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:55,839 Okay, we brought you in hot as they say, listen, command the 236 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,799 Kober. He's with us. He's off camera right now. But this is 237 00:17:57,799 --> 00:18:03,279 a good friend valleye of So she's the pretty one. She's joining us tonight. 238 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,240 She's an mpathy, she's an mpath. So watch what you say if 239 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:10,319 you know what I mean? Okay I will. And it was still her 240 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,559 friend that we got connected. Her friend Mike I think, was the connecting 241 00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:18,200 force who got us together. But yeah, we can talk about that later. 242 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:22,079 So how are you doing you're out in California, right, Arizona, 243 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Arizona close, okay, and just one right, that's practically the same things 244 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:32,000 for most of us in the East. One earthquake away and you got the 245 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:36,599 beachfront property. But so and you were on if I remember right, you 246 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,799 were on the aircraft carry the USS Teddy Roosevelt as a cryptologist at the same 247 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:48,279 time the pilot's on from that ship photograph what we call the gimbo Ufo. 248 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:52,160 Please tell me I got all that right? Yes, you did? All 249 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,359 right? Is exactly right? That was back in twenty fifteen. Good for 250 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,799 you, Mackie. Yet twenty fifteen and you were the when it happened. 251 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,759 And how long have you been out of the service now since March? I 252 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:10,400 got out in March. And it's something we've talked before. You run a 253 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,680 couple of months ago, and we've talked about that, we talked about in 254 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:15,880 depth. But you are a cryptologist. It's kind of a interesting job on 255 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,680 a ship like that. But there's a lot of things you can't tell us. 256 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,079 But one thing you did tell us is that you would never go back 257 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,480 in the service. You lated your time there, but you would never go 258 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:29,200 back, right, do I have that, right, Yeah, that's right. 259 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:32,839 I mean just just because of everything that's happened to me, I've learned 260 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,319 a lot about life, and I just don't think that the service is the 261 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,160 place for me, be honest with you. Wow, interesting, but it 262 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:45,400 was it was you know, the kind of the catalyst and and what brought 263 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,519 me to this experience. So I can't say that I regret it. All 264 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:49,440 right. If it wasn't for them, you wouldn't be here now, that 265 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,480 type of thing, right right, Well, listen, you know what, 266 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:56,160 Matthew. I know you have a book that's coming up. But we're in 267 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,920 the middle of a thing called Top ten. We had warships. You want 268 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:06,319 to join us for that? Sure? Okay? Hoping you'd say yes when 269 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,599 we do the top ten weird washships. Valerie's going to read down the list. 270 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:17,920 Number ten, please out. Ten is a mouthful. The Novgorod Russian 271 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,079 ship Yes, go ahead. Coco Russian Nangarad is a monitor type ship coastal 272 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:30,079 defense ship, sometimes referred to in our circles as the flying saucer ship because 273 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:36,000 it was pretty much circular. Went yeah, nineteen hundred, nineteen hundreds. 274 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,839 It had a minor role in the Russio Turkey War. In popular naval myth, 275 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:45,920 it is considered one of the worstship's worst have worships ever built? But 276 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,359 that doesn't really quite pan out when you look at what it did. It 277 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,720 was decommissioned in nineteen o three and it was scrapped in nineteen eleven. It's 278 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,000 real claim to fame being an iron Clyde type chip go based on a Scottish 279 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:07,599 naval architect. Yes, they built the beam as wide as possible. That's 280 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:10,720 why during out the circulars. It's a circular ship, it's a ship. 281 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,160 It's a ship that's circular vessel in a circle. Okay. In the the 282 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,599 Za fell in love with this design, which is what they built two of 283 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:22,400 them, and he fell in love with this particular design. He said it 284 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,000 would be cool to have a circular ship, right, but then a fleet. 285 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:30,440 Yeah, But then they started shooting cannons off and they it turns out 286 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,480 that the thing spun like crazy when you shut off. He can't. It 287 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,559 would start to get into really weird moments when I do it. Thing so 288 00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:41,799 didn't pan out happen? Yeah, Well, you know those Russians, you 289 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:45,359 know, they're always willing to go the extra amount. Okay, number nine, 290 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:53,119 please value top ten weird warships. That's that's Wisconsin, US. Thats 291 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,000 Wisconsin. Okay, what this is. It's also known as the Great Lakes 292 00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:02,599 Aircraft Carrier. There is an aircraft area in the Great Lakes, I think 293 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,240 Lake Superior, and they put it there in World War Two. There's an 294 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,200 old paddle boat. They put a top on it and it was rare because 295 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,000 there's a large navy base. Where is that, coco when on the Great 296 00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:18,079 Leave in Chicago there's one. Also there was one in Detroit as well. 297 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,519 Yeah, I think JJ was at one of them. But anyway, they 298 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:23,920 would train navy pilots there and Cago. They would go out and yeah, 299 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:29,599 and and and practice landing and takeoff on this aircraft carrier. And it's still 300 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:32,240 there. They it's it's it's still there. You know. They never know 301 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,839 when the football had to take it out. But yeah, the USS Wisconsin 302 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,559 Great Lakes Aircraft carry Ever heard that before Cocaine, Yes, he did, 303 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,319 Yes, And there was a wolverine I believe. Also is another vessel that 304 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:52,920 was brought on as well, and two of the best recovered I believe wildcats 305 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:59,359 and possibly one other Fighter worth because when they when they lost their engines on 306 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,680 either take for landing, the cold water of the Great Lakes actually preserve the 307 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,720 ship very very well and they are on display at the Naval Aviation Museum in 308 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:11,880 Pensacola because without the salt water, obviously uh it caused the ships to the 309 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,200 cave being very very cold and didn't break them down. Yeah wow, who 310 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:23,039 knows valley? Please next weird wash it? Lomar Explore, the Glomar Explorer. 311 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,440 Yes, yes, you did, the Glomar Explorer. First, I 312 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,319 need to put a small note that my father did work for Howard Hughes at 313 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,880 one time. I always like to throw an embarrass That's why the us NS 314 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:44,519 Hughes Glomar Explorer Tango Alpha Gulf one ninety three deep sea drilling ship. Amazing 315 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:52,240 project. Howard Hughes the man of of everything that is unconventional and unachievable within 316 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:57,920 his grasp. About the ship, Project Assourian, it was a CIA special 317 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:06,680 UH Director project to get the USSR sub Kilo one two nine, which had 318 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,000 sunk. It is one of those projects where they built a mechanical arm to 319 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:18,279 lift the submarine up from the floor to recover it. There is two stories 320 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,240 running about how successful it was. One says they got about thirteen percent of 321 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:27,440 the ship. Another very well done study says it's closer to eighty percent of 322 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,000 the ship. And they bring a number of Soviet sales up, gave them 323 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,400 a burial at sea, and eventually after the Cold War, the films of 324 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:41,480 that burial at sea were provided to the Russian Navy for the sailors that were 325 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:45,559 in turned. It is an interesting ship in many many parts. At one 326 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,039 point when it was no longer being used and it kind of came out, 327 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:53,400 a number of the science community wanted to keep it as a national defense asset 328 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,559 because of what you could do was very unique and it's just very expensive to 329 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,440 anything. They pitched it and on fifteen June twenty fifteen and Zuhasan, China, 330 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:11,599 Yes, ship was sent to a chip breaking facility. Oh this ship 331 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,759 has two parts. About this ship that it did is a mac maloney story. 332 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,119 It could have fit in any one of his books that he wrote about 333 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,720 Everywhere Pirate Hunters. There was a great scene where they talk about ships a 334 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:27,240 place where ships are brought Oh yeah apart, yeah, boomerang. I always 335 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,599 think of that scene. Yep. I always think of that scene of the 336 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,079 Glomark Explorer headed that way. Yeah, they take these huge ships what they 337 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,720 do, and this is after they've been abandoned or whatever, sold off as 338 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,039 scrap, and they'll just put the engines on full blast and run them up 339 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:48,079 onto the shore. And then they have these these workers they're they're they're all 340 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,039 over the kind of like the Middle East and India and stuff. Whould you 341 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,119 All they do is just you know, use torches and just you know, 342 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,680 cut them up hot. Thousands and thousands of people working at these places. 343 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,119 Every day. They have, you know, up to three or four dozen 344 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,279 deaths every day from accidents, and they pay them fifty cents a month and 345 00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:08,960 that kind of thing, you know. But that's what happens to your super 346 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,240 tankers these days. Have you ever heard of that, Matthew, Now you 347 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,519 are kind of close to all the spooky stuff that happens in the navy. 348 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:21,039 You ever hear about the Glomark Explorer. No, I've never heard of that. 349 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,799 So it was it was a big ship, but it had a claw 350 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:29,160 run. I imagine James Bond movie or a cartoon with a big claw in 351 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,720 the Russian sub at tank. We knew where it was, and they wanted 352 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,319 to get you know, their missiles and the secret technology of their missiles, 353 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,920 set et cetera. So they Howard hughes pace for this you know ship that 354 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,920 has a big claw. So they sailed out there and you know, it 355 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,200 wasn't made public feed years later. But what happened was, as Coco says, 356 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,440 there's two stories. One of them is it picked up a little bit 357 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,559 of it and they got some stuff. But they're never going to tell the 358 00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:59,759 Russians that they picked up you know, eighty percent of it. But supposedly 359 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:02,759 they did get a lot more of it, and they brought up these sails. 360 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,880 And it was when Yeltsin was the president of Russia and we had kind 361 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,839 of good relations with them. I think they would have done it anyway because 362 00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:12,319 of that little navy you know sale thing. But they did take They gave 363 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,319 him a burial sea. They videotaped it, and they gave to the Russians 364 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,759 and said, you know, at least we honored them that type of thing. 365 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,920 Yeah, nice touch. One other thing to add to this, mac 366 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:26,039 Yes, I actually saw this ship when it was in Mobile, Alabama and 367 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:27,759 the port there it was being When it was sold, it was turned into 368 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:33,640 a deep sea drilling ship, real mineral and oil expiration. And it was 369 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,599 in Mobile, Alabama, And I didn't realize it at the time what I 370 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:44,759 was looking at. Years later I put kill a good year. I was 371 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,599 like ninety seven, ninety eight someplace in there. The only other story I 372 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960 remember about it is that when Nixon was president, right as he was about 373 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,119 to leave, he was in San Diego doing a tour of the San Diego 374 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:59,680 Naval Shipyard and that's where it was at that time, and he said, 375 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,000 what is that I'd like to go aboord it, and they wouldn't let them 376 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,759 go abort it, you know, because even the President didn't have the clearance 377 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,440 to go on this thing, you know, which just tells you that they 378 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,240 can't do everything. So anyway, Valerie, please the next a top ten 379 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:23,480 list of weird waships that then is the USS Vesuvius. The USS Vesuvius. 380 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:29,680 Okay, what was strange about this ship? It was back then nineteen hundreds 381 00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:34,079 or so, was well, the way that ships are armed now Matthew and 382 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,279 both Cocoa can correct me if I'm wrong, but they basically naval guns are 383 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,440 basically artillery guns that they put on ships, and a lot of them are 384 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:47,720 very powerful and so on. Okay, but they fire off shells. They 385 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:52,039 propel shells just like a gun propels a bullet. They propel shells. Shells 386 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,440 go twenty miles, okay, and then they blow up. The Vesuvius was 387 00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,759 used to shoot dynamite, is that right, Coco. They used to. 388 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,920 They used to shoot dynamite at at targets and you know, which would I 389 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,799 could see where that would have some problems, you know, especially loading the 390 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:15,279 gun and stuff like that. But when it worked, they could shoot dynamite 391 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,920 like two miles, but you couldn't hear it coming because it was it was 392 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:22,920 shot by compressed air. You know, you would use the dynamic as crazy 393 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,039 as it sounds, but they had a ship that did this, and I 394 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,880 think it was in the Spanish American wall, and the enemy actually complained that 395 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,200 we can't hear the shells coming. So it's not fair type of thing. 396 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,680 It's not fair. But you know, having dynamite as your you know, 397 00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,440 weapon of choice is not a good idea. And eventually it must have blown 398 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:45,200 up or something, right, something, or they just got rid of it. 399 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,640 They decommissioned it before. Yeah, I guess it was more the decommissioned. 400 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,039 As I told you, pop Air, I really think this was a 401 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,000 shame that this isn't sitting in some port as an Italian restaurant, because I 402 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,759 think it would be absolutely perfect. Well you're Italian because you're a pot of 403 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,799 allion. No, because it's us. Okay, you know there's another thing. 404 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,839 What kind of a joke. It's got to be a joke that someone 405 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,400 says, you gotta you gotta shift to shooge the dynamite. Let's call him, 406 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:19,079 you know, USS for Suvie Wiley Wiley Coote would acme anyway, Valerie, 407 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,960 how are we doing? You're an mpath Can you sense the vibe of 408 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,359 the room? One throw it away? It's pretty good, it's good. 409 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,880 One through it through this long list. Okay, that's probably all coming from 410 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,079 six. Okay, number six, please, Valorie. Number six is the 411 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,880 U S S Tuna fish. Now see this is going to go nowhere. 412 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,200 I could switch. He isn't here. This is it's inside hockey here. 413 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,039 But carry so should we just continue on type of thing or should we do 414 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:47,240 the no? No, no, you need you need you need to throw 415 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,720 you need to love the grenade. And then in replay he'll he'll call you 416 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,559 up and that's drunking doughnut least craziness. Yeah, the one that said donuts. 417 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,440 Look, he was in he was in subs for four years or something 418 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:03,799 like that. But what was his name? His sub like the U S. 419 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,680 S. Albacore or something. And I always said, why don't they 420 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,680 just caught the toleman? Okay, maybe it's halibate, but why is it 421 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,359 in the US tuna? Of course, the one here in Portstal. Oh, 422 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,319 that's what I'm saying, right, Okay, U S. S. 423 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640 Tuna? No US is tuna fish? Does skip Jack? Is they? 424 00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:23,119 They've they named all their submarines. You don't think I don't think they did 425 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,440 it, Charlie Tuona fish. I didn't look it up and didn't look it 426 00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:29,920 up, but I'm pretty sure they didn't do it to Okay, all right, 427 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:32,839 So next one, please all, and this is going to be about 428 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,880 real names of ships. Top ten Top ten weird wash hips please Alarie number 429 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:47,119 five five five weirdly named British ships. Okay, here's the Royal Navy rule 430 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440 b Tannia Britannia of the seas. Right, Okay, we have a lot 431 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,640 of ships like we have a lot of in principle, Boxer, and they 432 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:59,759 also have a line of ships, the Dainty, the HMS Pansy, HMS 433 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:07,559 cock Shopper, the HMS Spanker. I looked this up prepare for the show. 434 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,039 I would like to tell everyone that Matt is doing his best, trying 435 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:14,839 to hold it together face and it's just barely hanging on. He's about six 436 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,279 and a half. He's getting ready to just let it go. The United 437 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:21,119 States Naval Institute. When I looked this up, maxin, hey, be 438 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:27,200 prepared for this today. Yes, I quote the following part soft names are 439 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:31,240 bad for morale end quote, as was put in a journal of the Naval 440 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:36,160 Study and Handbooks. Oh yeah, okay, so I'm just going to leave 441 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,599 that where it lays right there. But let's believe for the audience to didn't 442 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:43,200 hear it the first time. Let's be names the real name bad for morale. 443 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,799 End quote. HMS Dainty, Dansy, Pansy, Cock Shopper, Good, 444 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:55,039 and Spankers in what world ships of the line. Hey, where are 445 00:32:55,079 --> 00:33:00,319 you in from, Sailor, I'm from I'm in from the Spanker. Yeah, 446 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,000 that's gonna go. That's gonna get your breach rate horrible. I guess 447 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,759 I'm in from the Pansy. Who who I could tell that by the way 448 00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:15,279 you walked in sell it? Who in their right mind that doesn't have the 449 00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:19,880 greatest sense of humor in the world. We go through all. You know, 450 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,920 these ships are cheap. You know you're gonna throw a couple million bucks 451 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,880 into any kind of a naval warship. Why would you call it the USS 452 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,799 Pansy? Is it? Does it not resonate with you that that is not 453 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:40,119 the thing? The scholarship I'm asking Matthew, you would know there's no this. 454 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:46,799 This is an indefensible position for me. They have been in the right 455 00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:52,000 mind since they lost the revolution, so in my opinion. So with that 456 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:53,359 said, when we go on to the name, Matthew, do you agree 457 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,599 with me? Do you agree that that is not it's probably bad form to 458 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:02,519 name a ship the HMS Pansy. Oh yeah, I don't even understand how 459 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:07,839 something like that would happen. That is just it's gonna be a the HMS 460 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:15,920 Dainty Sank, a really bad bad ship. I'm going to pay this my 461 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,679 friends. When I hear this good thing one woman is because his wife is 462 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,719 British and we have a lot of British listeners, right, so we're only 463 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:31,440 just right right, cool Britannia. Stick with the vindictive, invincible, courageous. 464 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,239 Those are the names to stick with. Gang, the Dainties, Pansies, 465 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,599 the cock choppers, fans, that's what the third one or something else? 466 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Cardoons? Can you? Can you say the third one again? Slowly? 467 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:51,079 Because I think our audience is missing the cock chopper? Who would name 468 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:57,079 a ship by that name? What does it even mean other than chafing? 469 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,800 Look, Mac, you don't pay me enough to d the research that I 470 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,639 did. Is this about money? I'm not going undercover on this one. 471 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:09,800 I'm not going undercover on this one. Good figure, thank you. So 472 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,239 why don't we do this? Why don't we go on to the next one. 473 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,239 I can show this to missus Kobra. My gosh, look at the 474 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,719 sideways because she's a sailor sailing and I'll twice to see time that I have. 475 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,280 So I'm going to deny everything up here talking about pansies and dainties. 476 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,159 Oh yeah, this is going to go well, okay, next ship please? 477 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:36,519 Top ten weird waships please don't at number four. The USS ice cream. 478 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,960 Okay, the USS ice cream, Okay, real ship. Now I 479 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,840 did a little research in this because I'm a volunteer COPA. And what happened 480 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:51,119 was what what the Navy found out in World War two. Now this is 481 00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,000 all in the Pacific and you get in it's mostly naval ships and so on, 482 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,480 and marines which up out of the navy. So it's a navy wall, 483 00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:02,400 let's say. And what they found that was that because there was a 484 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,440 rule put into you know effect in the nineteen fifteen where you cannot drink on 485 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:14,679 naval ships. Correct, Matthew, correct, no books. And did you 486 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:16,960 but do people still bring booze on? Do they try to sneak booze on? 487 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:22,440 I would, oh, you know people trying? No comment, matt 488 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:27,840 no combat, Why would I ask you? But okay, So what they 489 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,800 found out was when they went to war, and especially these guys are out 490 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,559 on the you know, these islands in South Pacific and so on, what 491 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,320 they found out was the next best thing was ice cream, because everyone likes 492 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,880 ice cream. So the Navy bought a big cement bodge and turned it into 493 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,519 a big refrigerator ship, and uh, and made an ice cream factory. 494 00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:51,480 And they used to see them up and down the Pacific and go to ports 495 00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,719 basically, and everyone would come and you'll get ice cream. They could make 496 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,599 seven hundred gallons of ice cream a day, which is pretty good. It's 497 00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:02,239 pretty good, and you know, ice cream to what they did is a 498 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,800 morale thing, which is kind of funny, but they did as a morale 499 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,960 thing. And and they cut down on all the boozing that the guys was 500 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,920 sneaking the booze on the ships, because you know, they figured out ice 501 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,039 s cream and that won't kick out. So yeah, so the USS ice 502 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,239 cream. Now, how do you how do you how do you, you 503 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,840 know, scrap that ship? How do you not keep that ship cool? 504 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,719 I don't know. The good ship Lollipop isn't on the line anymore, the 505 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,320 ship ice cream isn't on the ship on the line anymore. I just like 506 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,599 to say that the expression cup of joke comes from the situation with the United 507 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:42,880 States Navy Secretary of the Navy at the time, who Josiah I can't remember 508 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,559 Josiah's last name. Yes, who removed alcohol from the ship. That's right. 509 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:51,159 Yes, there was a lot of and after that copy, of course, 510 00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,079 became the drink of choice in the Navy, and cup of Joe was 511 00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:59,000 kind of a derivative and a derogatory kind of thing. Back to the secretary 512 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,159 of the name, Well, I think it's a good is a great point 513 00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:09,159 to mention Military Java Group. Philip's our friend who produces a line of copies 514 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:13,639 for each one of the services, right, and part of the profits go 515 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,639 back to active duty and veteran members of each one the services. Javajo dot 516 00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:23,199 com, Java Joe dot com Is that right, Military Java Group dot com? 517 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,840 Okay, yes, military cop Yeah, he's a good guy. So 518 00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,760 why don't we do this one? We go to the next weird washup please? 519 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:39,000 Vallery three the USS Nerwin the US say is newon now, Well, 520 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,639 this thing has Why it's it's notoriety is is that it's the smallest nuclear sub 521 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:51,360 ever made. It's forty feet long and that might sound long, but it's 522 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,760 like two cars putting put two and a half cars lined up, you know, 523 00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,960 has a nuke in it. And it was missioned in the late sixties 524 00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:06,000 and it served the until two thousand and eight. Now, when they built 525 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,679 this thing, this was the dream child of Admiral Ricover. We could do 526 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:14,159 a whole show on this guy, Admiral Ricover, because he was crazy, 527 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:17,119 but he was the head of the Navy. He's the head of the Navy, 528 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:20,639 and he did stuff no one else can do. I mean some of 529 00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,000 the stuff he did was almost I don't want to use the word miraculous, 530 00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:28,440 but just so outside the envelope, like saying we'll have a nuclear sub in 531 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,639 a year, and he did it that, you know, crazy kind of 532 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:34,400 stuff like that about a real task master, but ran the Navy and made 533 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,719 the Navy what it was back then. But anyway, so what he won, 534 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,880 and he was the father of the nuclear Navy. So he had them 535 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,400 build this very small sub. I think there's thirteen people on it, thirteen 536 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,320 people as the crew, and they made it. They said it was a 537 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,800 research vessel. But what it used to do was it used to do what 538 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,000 we were just talking about. It used to search on the ocean floor off 539 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,199 of stuff that like the Middlelitary and the CIA would want and at least identify 540 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,719 it. Now they used it like when the Challenger exploded, that's the ship 541 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,360 that went down and catalog aby all the stuff that was on the bottom of 542 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,639 the floor, just different Russian cables and stuff like that. I think it 543 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:21,719 was involved when that Korean airline was shot down, and Rickover was one of 544 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,159 these guys who he'd like to brag about all this top secret stuff he's done. 545 00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:28,039 But anytime anyone would ask him about the Neroin, which was also the 546 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,599 NL one, supposedly, he would shut up and he wouldn't talk about him. 547 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:34,800 That's how valuable it was. So I'm sure they got a replacement. 548 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,159 You know, you never hear about it, but you would never would. 549 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:39,840 But yeah, a nucleus of the size of a bus. It's about the 550 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,480 size of a bus, thirteen people in it can stay under water forever. 551 00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,000 It's crazy. But by news there you go, Coco. Do you ever 552 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:52,159 hear that I have. I've heard a lot of interesting on the margin kind 553 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:57,360 of things that was engaged in. How it was transported, how would would 554 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,800 be attached to other ships. Yeah, ways that it was because of its 555 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:07,119 size, and it makes me think with absolutely no I think to ground this 556 00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:15,559 against this particular classes ship probably has a few siblings in its quiver. The 557 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,559 big deal is there are many mini subs, but they tend to be electric 558 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,920 and they tend to run on battery and they charge from a mothership and they 559 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:28,039 go do their business. This is an amazing small and very very beautiful vehicle 560 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,000 and today on the water forever. Matthew, do you you I can see 561 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,519 you're shaking your head. This sounds like the Navy having something like this, 562 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:39,639 right, yeah, Yeah, it's certainly something that we would have. I 563 00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,360 mean, they weren't the gadgets. I'm always when I think of the Navy, 564 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,840 I always think they weren't. They weren't the gadgets. They did a 565 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,239 lot of gadget aircraft and all that, if you know what I mean. 566 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:53,159 Gadget aircraft just kind of off the out of the envelope stuff airplane design, 567 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,559 right yeah, yeah, like experimental type things. Right, they have the 568 00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:02,480 big modified stuff stuff they used to be bombers and turn it into really high 569 00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:07,280 end, very interesting intelligence type Yeah. Interesting, yeah, in turn fighters 570 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:13,639 at the bombas right. Yeah. The Pueblo is the spy ship that the 571 00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,760 North Koreans captured back in sixty eight, held the crew for about a year 572 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,079 and a half. Talk about doing a show on a subject all the stuff 573 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,079 that happened, and that was just how it. I actually delivered the newspaper 574 00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:29,760 to one of the crew members and mothers old Melrose, Massachusetts. Yeah, 575 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,360 just you know, the elevator pitch. Basically, one of our intelligence ships 576 00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:37,199 was taken over by the North Koreans, and the comedy of everrors that caused 577 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,559 them to actually take it over was unusual. They bring the crew to North 578 00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:44,960 Korea and they hold them for about a year and a half. But at 579 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,800 one point they took pictures of them, and the picture has been around the 580 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,719 world and the guys just sitting there and they all got their middle fingers out. 581 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,960 Yeah, they got their arms crossed or they're sitting kind of cross play, 582 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:58,119 but they all have their middle fingers out. You know. They got 583 00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:00,840 their asses beat for doing it. But when around the world got the message 584 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,719 that they would just tell them North Koreans, we'll cut this out, that 585 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,679 the food wasn't too good. Food wasn't good. Thank you just saved me 586 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,599 eighteen fifty for that added thank you, Coco. Yeah, so they finally 587 00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,360 released them some kind of an exchange. Who knows, But it's an all 588 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,599 pretty strange story. USS Poblom. But anyway, talk about strange stories. 589 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:27,880 Next ship please, number two, The I four oh one sen Toku class 590 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,400 submarine. One of the great obsessions of Command of Cobra is the satakup, 591 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,000 the four oh one, the four zero zero, and the four H two's 592 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:42,039 sister chips. Yes, these are Japanese aircraft carriers. Again another tie in 593 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:46,440 to the mac maloney The Universe of Stories and Wingman. I had large, 594 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:52,159 true carrying submarines that attack the northeast coast United States, and one of my 595 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,039 favorite renditions of the series of Wingman. I have been obsessed with this as 596 00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:02,199 equally as I am obsessed with the Triangle Triangle aircraft. The mission of these 597 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:09,639 particular submarines was basically to have a strike platform, which the United States maybe 598 00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:15,599 was able to create with the detectsub with the Comahawk missiles later on. But 599 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:21,679 they carried three e G six A one torpedo bombers, sometimes referred to as 600 00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:24,760 the Syrian floating torpedo bombers. The planes would all fold up. They had 601 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:30,519 a hangar on the top of the submarine. These were until nineteen sixty five, 602 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,199 the largest submarines ever built. I will at the end, because I 603 00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:37,920 know Mack will ask what's the largest submarines? Will get to that in a 604 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,480 second, but their whole mission primarily was of course, to land attack and 605 00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:47,519 the goal that the Japanese had and they felt was pivotal because as Mackett indicated 606 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:52,679 earlier in this segment, that the war in the Pacific was a naval marine 607 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,840 war primarily, the war in Europe was much more an army air force type, 608 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,519 although we were going to cover a subject where we are going to have 609 00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,800 some connection with this. So they wanted to take out the Panama Canal. 610 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,800 If they could stop the Panama Canal from moving ships, this would have greatly 611 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,719 inhibited what the Navy could do because that needs to have to make the Great 612 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,000 Horn transit around South America, and that water hits some of the worst water 613 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,880 in the world in the certain times of the year that you cannot make it 614 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,159 or you have to come all the way around from the other side through either 615 00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:29,119 Suez or around Africa. The Cape Horn. So a very interesting ship, 616 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,679 a very interesting capability story about the ones that were captured, how they were 617 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,880 afraid that other countries were going to get it, how they sunk and destroyed 618 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:45,039 some of them. It's an incredible story. They did have some successful missions, 619 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,599 but they never had the ability in forty five to really bring it to 620 00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:53,320 bear. I think though, if you ever gave credit to the situation in 621 00:45:53,480 --> 00:46:00,159 Japanese at that time, the military's use of biological weapons, if they had 622 00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:05,119 ever decided that they were going to make the strike out to the west coast 623 00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,559 of the United States, they could have really changed the course. If you 624 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:12,159 can imagine these with these three aircraft, any submarines, if they could have 625 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,440 used it as a way to an air disperse right biological or chemically. If 626 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,440 you can imagine these before you go ahead back, if you can imagine these 627 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,639 big submarines and there are these, you know, big humps on the back 628 00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:27,239 of them, I mean like really really big submarines, and talk about gadgets. 629 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,800 They would you know, the the the humps would kind of come apart 630 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:37,719 like a like a nut or something, and shell c shells and the wings 631 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,039 would fold out, the floats would fold out, everything would fold out luck 632 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:45,280 into place. And what they had was these sea planes that could carry torpedoes 633 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,400 so they could put them on the sub The sub would you know, transit 634 00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,719 from who knows where to the first as Cocker said, the first plane was. 635 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,119 The whole objective was to blow up the Panama Canal and that way, 636 00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:00,039 as you said, you know, the transit between back and forth between the 637 00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:05,320 different coasts and the different walls would have been just incredible. But they never 638 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,760 got that far that the technology didn't get that quite that fun. But just 639 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,239 the whole idea of taking a and having three of these huge ships and have 640 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,760 some of them had and a couple of them had three different planes on board, 641 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,960 just the way, you know, just the ingenuity that to make something 642 00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:22,559 like that work, it's just amazing. It'd be hard to do today, 643 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:29,639 I agree, but not impossible. Not impossible. Yeah. So, and 644 00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:30,920 now is that it has been looked at the United States, Nate, he 645 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,719 has looked at Oh really, I just want to throw in the largest ship, 646 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,679 Russian typhon, the Russian Typhoon, excuse me, yes, And now 647 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:44,599 that could be replaced with this super tanker for l G that the Russians are 648 00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:49,280 talking about building, called the Pilgrim, and it would be the biggest sub 649 00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:54,639 in the world carrying liquid natural gas sub as a supertanker under the water. 650 00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:00,639 That's just what could what could possibly go wrong with a Russian building garage? 651 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:07,920 There we go carrying don't get anywhere in these coasts, please Ivan. So 652 00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:14,519 anyway, we have number one in the top ten weird waships number one. 653 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,760 Please value valley before you say it. How are we doing tonight? Let's 654 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:23,400 just take the pulse again. It's still good, not lagging at all, 655 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:29,280 not going flat. You could say, okay, all right, there we 656 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:35,000 go. Number one. Please. The number one is the MS hab a 657 00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:39,119 Cook. Okay, and I probably butchered that. That's okay. No, 658 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,440 only only you could have said it with such elements and such poise. Yes, 659 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,719 kind cook cock whatever, please Coco, save me a cook. HMS 660 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:58,239 Project a Cook is one of those really incredible stories backstories of World War two. 661 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,880 Yes, it's it has everything you would want for a major motion picture 662 00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:07,960 book. Deal all written in there. Winston Churchill spot into it. Lord 663 00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:12,800 Mountbatten's in the middle of it. There are crazy scientists do stuff. Pike 664 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,559 is in the middle of it. What it basically is is that we're going 665 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:22,840 to use icebergs as ship carrying vessels so that we can beat the U boats 666 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,960 in the North Atlantic. I will throw a quick aside here icebergs. The 667 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,599 quick point here that I want to throw in is the great book that you 668 00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:34,920 can read about this written by Coast Guard coastguardsman that brought that war the World 669 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,199 War two, it's called Bloody Winter. The U boat menace was absolutely destroying 670 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:46,119 the convoy lifeline that Britain needed to because it was the last footstuff in Lake 671 00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:52,039 Patricia, Canada. A prototype boat was built. They sold to Winston Churchill 672 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,480 that they can use ice as a means to do this. So what they 673 00:49:54,519 --> 00:50:00,199 initially thought was we'll take a large chunk of iceberg and we'll turn it into 674 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,079 a aircraft carrier and escort type ships. A couple of problems with that came 675 00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:08,000 out very quickly. One of them was that most of the icebergs below the 676 00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:14,559 water, so the ability to control it, the ability to propel it was 677 00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:17,679 not there, so they kind of have abandoned that. Plus there was stability 678 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,360 issues that when parts of it changed. But what brought all these together, 679 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:28,519 the reason everyone was so caught up with this thought was the International Ice Patrol 680 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,559 was brought together after the sinking of the Tight Tapa. Yes, and it's 681 00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:37,880 actually a Coast Guard mission in the United States. They would fly and mark 682 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:43,320 and try to destroy icebergs so that they would not hit merchant ships. So 683 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,480 to this day, and I think the mission actually ended not a few years 684 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:50,159 ago. They would mark them and actually report where they were and put a 685 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,760 GPS position. They would even mark them with electronic markers in the later years. 686 00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:58,599 But they could blow these things up easily. They would pound them with 687 00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:00,280 guns. They would hit with bombs, and this is what got people thinking 688 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:05,480 that ice is just an incredible way to use this. So what they decided 689 00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:08,920 it was they were going to take a refrigeration type unit in the middle of 690 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,480 it and build the iceberg around it. That they would put a more conventional 691 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,639 type pipe deck or top of the ship and then use ice around this large 692 00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:22,880 refrigeration unit. They built a scale model much like we were talking with Workover's 693 00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:28,039 submarine. This was in Lake Patricia. It worked pretty well. In fact, 694 00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:32,039 you can be the sunken part of this refrigeration unit's still in the lake 695 00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:37,960 in Canada. So they're building they just had They just ran into proms because 696 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:44,159 they were just intermounable to make it on paper and on the whiteboard of the 697 00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:47,440 blackboard of the day. This was just too attractive not to take an attempt 698 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,360 because where they were there flying and fighting was in really cold water. So 699 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,400 they would have been able to at least maintain quite a bit of the capability, 700 00:51:55,519 --> 00:52:00,599 right, Yeah, and they were going to they created now, they 701 00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:06,760 created their own kind of concrete slash ice. This guy Pike is the guy 702 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,239 who they mixed it with. Yet the Pike had kind of a formula where 703 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,360 he mixed that kind of a sawdust kind of into the water to make that 704 00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:21,320 and that's what made it very very strong, and it stayed very very solid 705 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,840 even as the temperatures went up a couple of things that happened there is salt 706 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,480 water does not freeze. Although people think it does freeze, it doesn't. 707 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,000 When it doesn't, it excludes the salt out of it, and that's how 708 00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:34,679 the ice forms. That's why you can eat sea ice. Okay. But 709 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,960 the name have Akouk, as we were talking, comes from an old prophet 710 00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:45,199 in the Old Testament, and the quote that it's based is be utterly amazed 711 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,280 or I am going to do something in your days that if you would not 712 00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:53,280 believe, even if I told you that's where that name came from, Well, 713 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,679 an Iceberg aircraft carrier would fit that bill. I mean, what what 714 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,400 they what they sold Winston Churchill on on Okay, this is how crazy this? 715 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,039 Now they're talking about making an iceberg and making in an aircraft carrier and 716 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:12,199 the one that they sold him when like thousand feet long land on this hundreds 717 00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:16,199 of planes hundreds length. That's it right there. You know the regular aircraft 718 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,800 carries. Back then we probably carried maybe fifty sixty planes, maybe more. 719 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,119 Okay, these days they probably carry you know how many math you're probably one 720 00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:30,440 hundred fifty maybe one hundred and fifty total planes. I would say probably, 721 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:35,320 I would think I have no idea actually coverage wings. About sixty airplanes on 722 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,639 an area and how many wings are there? Two wings on an aircraft just 723 00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:42,320 one one or two wheir wings on it? Usually just one wing. And 724 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,280 you have about four squadrons or okay, yeah, okay, so sixty fighters 725 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,079 and bombers, and then you have like the you know, the a wax 726 00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,000 ships and the refuels and all that jazz. Is that would that would that 727 00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:57,920 count in the sixty Collie as part of the planes. Yeah, you have 728 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,559 about sixty sixty five airplanes on an air craft carrier of different types, and 729 00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:04,320 you have those that just come and you know, maybe spend the day or 730 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,039 night type thing. And then go back right require, Well, this this 731 00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:12,559 aircraft carrier made two thousand feet long by two hundred feet wide on the mac 732 00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:16,880 maloney Wingman star Man kind of proportions on stale everywhere, and they were going 733 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,159 to have you know, like up to a thousand planes on this and they 734 00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:22,800 bring in the North Atlantic. And at the time, the U boats were 735 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,679 really crazy because anyone who crossed the Atlantic in those days in a ship man 736 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,880 that had all the coverage in the world because the chances were you going to 737 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,199 get sunk and even if you're in the water, you're gone because you're in 738 00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:37,559 the North atlant it's rough, it's crumbing weather and so on. But while 739 00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:42,000 they were developing in this, what were they were developing other anti Yuo boat 740 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,360 stuff. And basically what they did is they get long range aircraft. And 741 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,400 the thing is is when you're flying over the water, I mean U boats 742 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,719 don't go way way down. You can spot them feel easily looking down and 743 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,880 and if they're riding on the surface. They did the calculations and they found 744 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,400 out that the right kind of airplanes spot the U boat turned around, went 745 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:06,239 to an attack more dropped the bomb before the U boat could submerge. So 746 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,000 and that was basically the end of the U boat. So they didn't need 747 00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:14,119 any iceberg aircraft cab but it had been so cool, would have had like 748 00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:17,840 ten thousand people on it and all these planes and stuff just don't bring it 749 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,320 down. Well, the other part of it, it really was a fortress 750 00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:25,119 that would not easily destroyed. What it required the amount a major attack, 751 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:30,280 and at that point the Germans did not have the type of aircraft that could 752 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,840 have reached that crazy. I think I shared with you map when we were 753 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,000 prepping up for the show that when I was down in Antarctica we actually used 754 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:43,519 an iceberg as a touch and go platform to top the coast of McMurdo one 755 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:47,159 year. Yes, we found an extremely flat piece of ice and we tested 756 00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:51,559 it to make sure that it would take the helicopters and not does it and 757 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:54,679 we had our own little floating island of ice ol there. Wow huh, 758 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,360 and what it was worth. I didn't realize that I was, you know, 759 00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:04,360 following the footsteps of Lord mount Batten and oh wow, good for you. 760 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,280 Now you're talking about Antartica, correct, Yes, okay, I should 761 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:15,000 just remind the audience that Coca met the lovely Missus Coco and Antartica. How 762 00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:17,119 often does that happen? On the way? That's correct, the way on 763 00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:20,480 the way does he is the real sailor in the field. Good for you? 764 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,639 So why don't we do this when we take a commercial break now, 765 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,400 and we'll be right back after this. We just went to mention two books. 766 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,679 Matthew, you have a new book out. What's the name of it 767 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:35,760 police, Yeah, it's called Initiated by Matthew Roberts. Okay, what's it 768 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:43,599 about. So it's about my own personal experiences with the phenomenon and the things 769 00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:47,159 that I experienced while working at the Office Enable Intelligence. What was the best 770 00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:50,039 one? I mean, what's the one that keeps you up at night? 771 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:54,039 What's the craziest thing that happened to you? Not the show? It was 772 00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:58,079 all crazy, you know, all of it was crazy. I mean. 773 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,559 Answer the one thing that I carry with me, I think is probably uh, 774 00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:07,599 the event when I was woken up by this guy that looked like a 775 00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:13,719 yard gnome and he told me don't give up, keep going. And so 776 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,320 that's that's my new motto in life, right right? Yeah? Huh, 777 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,360 Well, it's weird how advice came some strange places. So how long did 778 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:27,239 it take you to write the book? Well, my experience has started in 779 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:37,199 September of twenty seventeen and I beg I began journaling men and so it took 780 00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:40,679 me from then until just about now to write the book. Paying the ass 781 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,840 to write a book, isn't it? Yes? Or no? Oh? 782 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,800 Yeah? Yeah? I mean the in the editing phases. I was so 783 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,760 tired of reading this book over and over and over and over. Wicked brother, 784 00:57:53,960 --> 00:58:00,239 Yeah, what a d loves He calls me like a drunken stupid that 785 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,000 process at all. Ever, I don't do that, but Mac not often. 786 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,800 But Mac doesn't love it. It's the it's the you know, I 787 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,360 hate to say. It's a good living and you know, and there's not 788 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,880 many complaints you can make about it. But that's a drag when you have 789 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,159 to read it for the seventh friggin time again and you know how it's going 790 00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:22,440 to go. You know, there's no surprises. Well, so Valerie also 791 00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:28,360 had a book that we want to mention. Yes, Valerie has a added 792 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,719 to her series, A Tangled Web of Friends. Is that right, Valerie? 793 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,280 That's the series name. The book. The third book is the last 794 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,199 hour, the last hour, and and we're coming up on the last hour. 795 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,280 What what is it about? Can you tell? Can you tease it 796 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:52,239 for people? So it's following, stop it, stop it not going to 797 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:57,480 cut that out there, Following Josie and her friends as she tries to figure 798 00:58:57,519 --> 00:59:01,239 out her gift of talking to ghosts, and it takes them down to Florida 799 00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:07,039 and they actually end up off the coasts in the Gulf of Florida at an 800 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,039 closed down military fort where they encounter some strange things. Oh wow, huh 801 00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:15,159 okay, all right, sounds sounds good. So you go on Amazon and 802 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:21,079 look we Valie Lafaso a Tangled Web of Friends. I love that the series 803 00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:23,519 title. She has a new uh book adding to it. And why don't 804 00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:25,880 we do this now? Why don't we take a commercial right now? And 805 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,960 we'll be right back after this. You're listening to mcloney's milit Rex style show 806 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,920 here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. We'll be right back after this. 807 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,079 UFOs are found in renaissance art, on ancient coins, and etched on cave 808 00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:45,840 walls. They're even reported in the Bible. But more surprising is when UFOs 809 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:51,880 are seen the most in times of war. Through centuries, thousands of UFO 810 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,599 sightings have been made by high ranking officials, military pilots, and ordinary soldiers. 811 00:59:57,079 --> 01:00:01,119 Often, these fantastic appearances occur at the high of great battles from World 812 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:07,400 War One to D Day to Korea, Vietnam and beyond. Military investigators are 813 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:13,039 baffled why do UFO sidings spike so drastically during wartime? Could it be mistaken 814 01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:19,239 aircraft or someone or something looking in on us? In UFOs and Wartime, 815 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,440 What they Didn't want You to Know, Mac maloney chronicles centuries of these incredible 816 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:27,199 sightings and tries to solve the puzzle of why so many UFOs are seen while 817 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,360 humanity is at war. Read about the scareships, the ghost planes and the 818 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,320 ghost rockets, alien giants in the jungles of Vietnam, UFOs controlling our ICBM 819 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:43,480 bases, dogfights with flying saucers during the Gulf War, and more. Three 820 01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:49,519 hundred pages of unbelievable stories, along with many startling photographs. That's UFOs and 821 01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:52,519 Wartime, What they Didn't Want You to Know? By mac Maloney, On 822 01:00:52,679 --> 01:01:24,079 sale at your local bookstore or on Amazon dot com. Welcome Back. If 823 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:28,639 we went to macloney's Mill Track Safe show here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. 824 01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:31,440 This is mccloney. Wow, what a show we have for you tonight, 825 01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:36,039 And it's strange because one one doesn't here. Sorry. Girls. He's 826 01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:38,280 on his own secret mission, but taking his place and filling his big clown 827 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,639 shoes. As he points ou out early in the show, is command the 828 01:01:42,679 --> 01:01:46,960 Cobra. Coky. I don't believe I used clown as a well adjective to 829 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,960 describe his shoes. But if the shoe fits, wear it. And I'm 830 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,800 desperately trying to fill one one shoes as always back a privileged to be part 831 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:59,400 of the formation. He said, size twenty four red with yellow shoelaces, 832 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:04,320 so bunting, yellow bunting, And I know I got that wrong. Okay. 833 01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:07,360 Switch Blade Steve is going to be joining us later in the show. 834 01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:13,679 He's also hones seecod mission but classing up and beautifying Michelle tonight. Is a 835 01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:19,920 good friend and EmPATH Valerie Lafaso. Valerie, how are you doing good? 836 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,920 Mac? Thanks for having me. Okay, we won't call you the our 837 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:27,639 word this segment, okay, because we felt we overdid it. Okay. 838 01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:30,239 Is that okay with you. That's totally fine with me. I'm good with 839 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,239 that, okay, because once you know you are that, you don't need 840 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,400 to say why do you have to be told? Right? How do you 841 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:43,760 spell it? Though? Coco? Do you know Romeo Alpha Victor, India, 842 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,840 Sierra Hotel, India, November Gulf. Okay, I hope you wrote 843 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:52,360 that, dom kids, So okay, thanks Valai for joining us tonight values 844 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,719 an mpath. She has a new she has a series out and she is 845 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,960 just added to the series. The name of the series is A Tangled Web 846 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,519 of Friends and the latest book is called what is it? Valerie? The 847 01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:08,000 Last Hour? The Last Hour? Okay? Gow on Amazon dot com Valerie 848 01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:13,400 Lafasso and they'll look for a Tangled Web of Friends the Last Hour. And 849 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,880 the ghost stories are very unusual ghost stories, I think is a good way 850 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:21,039 to describe them. So, uh yeah, so do it? So? 851 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,960 Uh? Are we all going to get copies Valerie? Or do we? 852 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:29,400 Did you know that already? I can get you copies if you'd like, 853 01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:31,760 Okay, all right, send them to one, don't send one to one 854 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:36,000 one, don't don't waste the postage, okay, but I'll send it to 855 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:38,199 un ye, wait till it's an audiobook, or when you can get over 856 01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:40,840 to his house and wait and read it right to him as he's going to 857 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,000 sleep, that would be a good idea. So anyway, Valerie, thanks 858 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:50,000 for joining us tonight. You appreciate it. Also joining us on the wing. 859 01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:54,239 As they say. Matthew roberts Uh calling in from Arizona. Matthew was 860 01:03:54,280 --> 01:04:00,199 someone who was a cryptologist on the USS Teddy Roosevelt, huge huge car when 861 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,920 pilots aboard that ship took what we now know as the fame Aus gimbal Ufo 862 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:13,480 video and all the repercussions that have resulted because of that. But because he 863 01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:15,280 was a cryptologist, he really can't tell us much. Is that? Is 864 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:20,119 that what we're dealing with the Matthew? Yeah, unfortunately, there's there's not 865 01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:25,000 a whole lot I can talk about. I can only talk about my own 866 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,159 personal experiences. Okay of that, yep, Okay, did you sign something? 867 01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:30,679 I mean when you left, I mean when you joined, did you 868 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,199 sign something or did you just raise your hand and it's an oath to keep 869 01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:39,679 it all? Yeah? No, of course, there's there's always paperwork you 870 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:46,199 sign whenever you're read into a program. So you're constantly signing non disclosure agreements? 871 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,760 Oh really? Yeah? Did you ever would you ever think of breaking 872 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:56,400 it? No? What would happen? I mean, I just end up 873 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,480 in I'd probably end up in jailing jail. Yeah, oh that's bad. 874 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:02,159 Yeah, okay, all right, okay, it'll be healthy. It'll be 875 01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:04,280 great for book sales, though, I'll do it. It'd be great for 876 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:10,000 book sales, think about it. I mean, you have to be willing 877 01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:12,880 to commit to your That's all I got to say, right, yeah, 878 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:18,239 okay, so listen rather yes, genius? Uh on the wing? Now? 879 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,280 Is Jesse Kwansney? Am I pronouncing that right there? Jesse? Last 880 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:28,280 name? Yeah? Yeah, Quasni yeah okay. And you're up in Montana, 881 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:33,800 right, yes, sir. He looks like he's in a jacuzzi or 882 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,519 something. Now you know what do you call those things? A sauna? 883 01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:40,400 That's right, So that's what I'm thinking. He's up in the mountains in 884 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:45,000 a sauna. He's in Montana enjoying it. Is that right? If we 885 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:47,559 can only get a bear to walk by in the background while he's doing this 886 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:54,880 to the bear at any time, We've been having bear sightings for the last 887 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,199 two weeks all over town, and we don't have a lot of crime up 888 01:05:57,239 --> 01:06:00,679 here. So we've been getting police text messages and alerts from all the bears 889 01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:02,199 in town over the last two weeks. They're still too warm for them to 890 01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:05,599 go into hibernation. And just for those that are listening in the mid part 891 01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:10,440 from the country, we're talking about the animal, the genius of animal, 892 01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:15,480 not the fan of the football game team from Chicago. Oh god, yeah, 893 01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:18,039 why would they need the cops for them? So so listen to you 894 01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:20,880 already just wander around in Montanic because they're so sad. Yeah, yeah, 895 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,760 okay, Well, so now you have your own a podcast. You're a 896 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,559 ten year OMI veterans. When were you win? When? What years did 897 01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:34,199 you serve? Jesse? I was in two thousand and five to twenty fifteen. 898 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,800 Okay, all right, and where did you go? What did you 899 01:06:38,239 --> 01:06:43,000 what did you see? Yeah? I was in Korea a couple of places 900 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,800 in the US. I went to Iraq a couple of times. Spent the 901 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,679 last few years in Baltimore City as a forced recruiter. Oh okay, but 902 01:06:49,719 --> 01:06:54,000 most of my time I was in aviation and working in the UAVs. Okay, 903 01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:57,960 special ops. The av teams from Forhead. Can you tell me where 904 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,480 you were in Iraq? Yeah? My first I was in a place called 905 01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:05,039 dou Anda, Camp Echo, and the second time I was in Basra. 906 01:07:06,639 --> 01:07:11,519 Did you ever remember seeing the little gray airplanes that were flying around doing ISSR 907 01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:16,719 there on contract? No, not the Skymasters. Oh yeah, that was 908 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:23,000 my old o, that Coco alright flying around. Yeah, so what I 909 01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:27,639 mean? So we were down at Adder at the same time. He refers 910 01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:29,800 to it as the sandbox. So I mean, if you had to do 911 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,159 it over again, would you have gone over the dress? Did you learn 912 01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:38,599 anything, see anything? Was it worth it? The first one is well 913 01:07:38,639 --> 01:07:43,199 worth It's a weird thing worth it in the overall mission, I don't necessarily 914 01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:45,159 know, but the experience was definitely worth the things that I saw, especially 915 01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:48,239 the first one in Dwenya is a beautiful place. Spent a lot of time 916 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:55,239 flying around small villages, teaching the Iraqi Army how to manage airfields and things 917 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,079 like that. Yeah. Yeah, I got to travel a lot on that 918 01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:59,159 first one, which was pretty cool. And what were you flying around with? 919 01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:00,880 Did you get to go to um by any chance? You can get 920 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,119 it to boom oom? When you were down it at it m M, 921 01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:10,039 yeah, because you probably were closed out. I was one of the last 922 01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:12,880 you got to go there. It's one of the oldest it's the Abraham the 923 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,520 Old Testament, the oldest study comes from and it was right right alongside there, 924 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:23,479 and then the Iraqi government kind of closed it out from US takings to 925 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,119 it's supposedly the oldest city. Yeah, they started shutting down a lot and 926 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:31,039 uh yes, and they had wheat fields bigger than in Kansas. Imagine that 927 01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:36,359 way back when twenty twenty two thousand years ago. So anyway, so yeah, 928 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,239 right, yeah, it's a strange part of the world. I mean, 929 01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,760 I've never been over there, but you know, just from what I've 930 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,920 seen and just how the people iron stuff like that, it might as well 931 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:51,119 be on another planet, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty wild. 932 01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:57,960 You can go from desert to immediate like oasis where our first fob was was 933 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,760 a really small base and it was just desert. Ever wear around and then 934 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,760 you just fly into this beautiful palm trees and super green area just like in 935 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,279 the middle of the desert. It's pretty incredible. And what were you flying 936 01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:13,279 around then? What kind of point are you flying around in copters? You 937 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,279 h sixty black hawks the most part. Yeah, okay, how are they 938 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,680 rough? Every helicopter people, helicopter pilots have told me don't get on a 939 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:27,199 helicopter if you don't have to. Is that right? Well, they're not 940 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:31,079 the safest in a crash situation, then that's right, held together very well 941 01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:36,079 when they hit the ground. Okay, Cocoa is a pilot. So Matthew, 942 01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:40,000 would you would you agree with me? Do you like to fly? 943 01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:43,960 Matthew? Yeah? Really do you? Yeah? I don't like to fly. 944 01:09:44,119 --> 01:09:47,319 I don't either. I actually hate it, and I helicopters are so 945 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:53,359 uncomfortable because of the vibration that's always constantly happening inside them. It's it freaks 946 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,960 me out. I hate the fly. I mean, I write, I 947 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,920 make my living writing about flying, and I hate the fly. I'm like 948 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,199 that guy who wrote the greatest roller coaster book in the world and he hates 949 01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:10,720 for roller coasters. Coco, were you awake? Hello, I'm just listening 950 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,560 to all the non aviators talking about Mike Tree. That's fine, all right, 951 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,520 It's okay. What's nearly fourteen thousand hours of flight time to this August 952 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:24,079 group. I'll think let's just keep moving on. Now you're counting your days 953 01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:28,600 with Michael Bay doing Bad Boys too. Is that party of fourteen thousand hours? 954 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,439 Yeah, it was part of my fourteen thousand hours, that is correct, 955 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,800 Sir mac Okay, So I just got to throw this out. So 956 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:41,800 I'm listening to a show on Apple Podcasts the other day, Alexa play mc 957 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,680 maloney's Military Exiles on Alexa podcast and by the being with there okay, And 958 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:51,159 you were just going into your story about how you and Michael Bay, who 959 01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:57,239 is one of the top ten directors in Hollywood, you have this meeting. 960 01:10:57,359 --> 01:11:00,880 In quotes, his dog comes up and licks your groin and then you the 961 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:06,000 stunt helecop the pilot. Stat's giving Mike ol Bay script revisions. Correct, 962 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:13,159 Yeah, correct, with a couple of small edits to the Mike ryme. 963 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,800 He wiped its mud, its muzzle on my hands. Tomato, tomato, 964 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,239 go ahead, Okay. We're sitting at a conference table. Mister Day was 965 01:11:21,239 --> 01:11:24,640 at the other end of the table. I was at the current I had 966 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:31,520 my representative or my partner from the Coastguards Hollywood Opice sitting to the left. 967 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:36,199 The various people that are part of the production that are supporting mister bay On 968 01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:41,079 that going with it, yes, And I just had to make the remark 969 01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:45,880 that if we're going for accuracy, these are things that I saw wrong with 970 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,840 the script. And he saw how the dog was reacting with me. Yes, 971 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:56,520 and he gave me too, like thirty seconds to convince him. So 972 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,840 I gave him, you know, both barrels. I explained to him that 973 01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:02,279 stuff that had gone wrong and other movies of his that I love, Yes, 974 01:12:03,079 --> 01:12:06,680 And only guys like me that are losers with the capital L on my 975 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:13,199 forehead would even care about or dare bring up. So everybody court starts shuddering. 976 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,479 Michael Michael Michael on the side, and he puts his hand up, 977 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:20,800 tells them to be quiet, says under my name, commander my name, 978 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,119 go ahead with that. And I said, well, mister b call me 979 01:12:25,159 --> 01:12:27,640 Michael. I said, well that case, call me my first name. 980 01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:32,359 And we went down the list. Wow, changed teams up to make them 981 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,199 more accurate and to have some more fun in some of those areas. And 982 01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:40,720 that was just one of the many adventures along the way. When I was 983 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,359 collecting a government paycheck, And did you really so the government paid you while 984 01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:47,079 you were filming Bad Boys too? Yes, I was. This was all 985 01:12:47,119 --> 01:12:58,039 part of that that's wrong though, Like it's a huge boon for for recruiting, 986 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,159 and Jesse can understand this when you have a big positive part. The 987 01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:05,039 Hollywood opposite of the Defense Department in the coach Guard, they get scripts all 988 01:13:05,079 --> 01:13:09,520 the time, and then these directors and producers will come and say we want 989 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,960 to get government support, we want to have your ship to your helicopters, 990 01:13:13,039 --> 01:13:17,119 your troops, and then technical advisors come and go. If they come off 991 01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:20,199 active duty like I did. It was just just another one of my duties 992 01:13:20,279 --> 01:13:24,560 of running squadron into down and do this meeting. And it was actually probably 993 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,800 one of the coolest things that happened. A flight out of Miami where the 994 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,119 movie was being filmed, as a guy holding my name up on our sign 995 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,119 for the limo, we went through that. First of all, I tried 996 01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:36,439 to fly get in the front seat with the limo driver because I wanted to 997 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,199 talk to him, because no, no, he can't be in the front 998 01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:41,600 seat, it's a rule. So he puts the wind on and we're talking 999 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,079 and he's telling me all this great stuff that's going on. How much people 1000 01:13:44,079 --> 01:13:46,520 loved working for Michael Bay he's done a number of the movies that he's been 1001 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,159 in him. So wow, it was a really interesting time. Yeah, 1002 01:13:50,279 --> 01:13:54,600 and you run Uncle Sam's perrol. That's wrong, dude. You should have 1003 01:13:54,800 --> 01:14:02,520 done that on your rn I or something. Okay, wow, I'm just 1004 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,199 smiling in silent. I just gotta leave you hanging their place as run. 1005 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,920 I just you know, I think back to all the times that I was 1006 01:14:10,039 --> 01:14:14,439 on Uncle Sam's payroll answering your questions when you would write to me about the 1007 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,479 book stuff. So there we go. Okay, nice, thank you. 1008 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,039 That's another shot in charge? You charge and Mike Bay? You guys, 1009 01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:24,079 are I hold both of you in the same esteem? You and Michael Bay 1010 01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:27,039 the same esteem? Really? Yeah? I don't have any big dogs though, 1011 01:14:27,039 --> 01:14:30,600 as it turns out, So you in touch with him? Are you 1012 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,039 in touch with the dogs? Yes? Or no? The dogs? The 1013 01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:38,239 dogs and the dogs stay in touch. Good for you. So, so, 1014 01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:40,920 Jesse, So what was so? So? Yeah? Ten years in 1015 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,600 the army? Right? Okay? So was it was it? I mean 1016 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,159 I always want to ask people, this was it what you thought was going 1017 01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:51,000 to be? Did you come out with a different frame of mind? I 1018 01:14:51,039 --> 01:14:54,399 came well, yeah, I came out with a totally different frame of mind. 1019 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,680 I joined right out of high school, and I was eighteen, and 1020 01:14:57,039 --> 01:15:00,079 I had my twenty first birthday in Iraq and all these So there's no way 1021 01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:04,880 to spend ten years and not completely change your whole view, especially coming from 1022 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:11,199 a small place in Montana and just expands everything. Yes, it was drastically 1023 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:15,199 different than I thought Slash was told by recruiters in the early two thousands. 1024 01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:19,560 So yes, I think. I think it's mostly just learning how to adapt 1025 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:26,239 to situations that you will never be really prepared for unless you're there in that 1026 01:15:26,319 --> 01:15:29,680 situation. There's no amount of like training or discussing it that could get you 1027 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,680 ready for some of that. Right. Those people don't like us, though, 1028 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,560 do they? If they had did Druthers, we wouldn't be involved with 1029 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:43,479 them, right, We're just a different We're just different. Yes, yeah, 1030 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,840 more likely than not. Yeah, yep. Yeah. Well it's too 1031 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,640 bad it's like that, you know, But that's just the way it is. 1032 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,279 That's what the other half of the world is like, you know, 1033 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,720 and you know, a lot of crazy stuff happens over there. They're doing 1034 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,960 a lot of different things with Number thirteen and the United Arab Emirates. By 1035 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,840 the way, Coco, can you believe that is no surprise? UE is 1036 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,119 a happening place, is it really? Yeah, we're not going to ask 1037 01:16:10,119 --> 01:16:13,640 you for a reading at this point. We're gonna let the show move on 1038 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,560 a little bit. It's action with your your check onto the pulse. It's 1039 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:21,520 a dip. I appreciate that. Thank you. Oh that's just confirming it. 1040 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,560 Thank you, Coco. So, now you went back to Montan You 1041 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,680 went back to your hometown when you came out right, okay and had a 1042 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,399 change back here to go to school. Was it changed? It was a 1043 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,680 little bit different. I don't know. Just the perspective is coming back to 1044 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,520 a place that was much quieter when you spend ten years in a lot of 1045 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,159 loud stuff, busy, super active places. To come out here to the 1046 01:16:45,159 --> 01:16:47,840 mountains and just be able to walk out my back door and not see anybody 1047 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:54,119 for hours and hours. Cool, It's just experience, but definitely very different. 1048 01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:58,239 You're telling us that the cops text you and bears are around, right, 1049 01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:03,760 yeah, and bears are wow. Okay, that's cool. Well listen, 1050 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,039 so before we talk about your podcast, now that I got a navy 1051 01:17:08,079 --> 01:17:11,199 guy and an Army guy and a coast guard guy and you're in the Air 1052 01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:15,760 Force too, Coca. Right, that's correct. Okay, let's talk about 1053 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,239 the food now. Listen. For Christmas, Coco gave me a bunch of 1054 01:17:19,399 --> 01:17:24,479 MRIs and I had got a bunch like twenty years ago. And forget about 1055 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:29,600 those, man. This is like ribs and steak and chili and stuff like 1056 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,159 that. So thank you Coca for that. And you can heat them up 1057 01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:35,479 yourself and so on. So let's start with the Navy, because I always 1058 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:40,319 hear about the Navy food is excellent. So Matthew, if you can rate 1059 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,840 the food five stars, is the best on the carrier. What was it, 1060 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:54,600 right? It was probably about two to three stars? Maybe? Wow? 1061 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,840 Good. You didn't spend time on small chips, damn no, yeah, 1062 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,600 I never ever did small boys. Yeah. So what you have to 1063 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,640 do is you have to beat Matthew factor into that two to three and add 1064 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,600 a one to a one point five onto it. You're sitting on a ship 1065 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:16,000 that's rolling back and forth about forty five degrees port and starboard and pitching ten 1066 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,359 and you're getting peanut butter and jelly on wonder bread. Going. Man, 1067 01:18:19,399 --> 01:18:23,840 this is the light. This is large. Those guys in the aircraft carrier 1068 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:30,680 with limitless hot water are complaining about their seanron is not done well tonight still 1069 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,680 load done? Yeah? Okay, so he was spoiled by being on the 1070 01:18:35,119 --> 01:18:40,439 bird thomb as the kids say, right, yeah, yeah, okay, 1071 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,319 all right, so let me just go over it. Let's going with Jesse. 1072 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,640 So Jesse food in the army. You were out in the field. 1073 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,279 So it was just like yeahs and stuff, right, mostly when you're out 1074 01:18:49,279 --> 01:18:53,479 in the field, when you're down range, if you're ever on the fog, 1075 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,399 they have a defect just like any other base, which is probably like 1076 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,960 a two or three out of five. But yeah, everything in the field 1077 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,720 is pretty much field raft and stuff just to eat eat occasionally. Just did 1078 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,520 you ever get to eat those special field kitchens they would bring out. They 1079 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,600 didn't have them a racked off, but I had it. I saw them 1080 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,199 a few times in Germany. They come out and basically they're working on it, 1081 01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:15,920 basically a truck and they would actually make hot rations there and I mean, 1082 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,359 again, pretty decent eating when you could get that line. Was it 1083 01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:25,600 good? When I was in Korea, we had this field problem and it 1084 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,960 was like negative twelve degrees for two straight weeks essentially, and we had no 1085 01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:35,159 indoor place to sleep. So they actually shipped in those big like tractors for 1086 01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:38,479 two or three days to kind of give us a little break. And there's 1087 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,199 dudes in the back and you would just kind of file right into the back 1088 01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:45,159 of this big truck and just grab those hot rations and it was terrible. 1089 01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:48,039 It was like tiny eggo waffles and eggs from a box, which would love 1090 01:19:48,079 --> 01:19:51,159 that, but it was warm and it was so good. Really, So 1091 01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:55,520 there was like mobile broken down to a smaller component, lower component. You 1092 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,399 know, it doesn't take much to make it happy. So mobile kitchen, 1093 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,760 which I think is probably one of the greatest lesson in the military, really 1094 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:06,359 do. So these are mobile kitchens, Jesse mobile kitchens. Yeah, they 1095 01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:10,680 can drive it right out to you and then they have some like kind of 1096 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,840 like a buffet if you were to go to like a conference center. There's 1097 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,359 ye trade type setups and those big plastic jugs of water. It's a big 1098 01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:19,920 food truck have that lined up on the inside. And yeah, see, 1099 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,079 I think I'll tell you this is real inside. But at Cokeland valv you 1100 01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:26,880 know, Rye Beach, Hampton Beach, all the way up to New Hampshire. 1101 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,279 If you had a food truck going up there. This this like fifty 1102 01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:34,079 thousand people there on the summer's day here Colin right now. So they are 1103 01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:40,359 right now putting their reservation in the Military X files special Cuisine. So we're 1104 01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:43,399 going back to you, and now we're going back their force chow is. 1105 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,159 I'm going to say, is just kind of met some message. I don't 1106 01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:48,720 know if you guys, I'm pretty sure Matt and Jesse know the meme or 1107 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:53,119 the thing that's been going around the internet. And they show the picture of 1108 01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:57,000 this guy sitting down eating food and it's so good. The guy just loses 1109 01:20:57,039 --> 01:21:00,479 it. He's just he's saying, and he's throwing the food in his These 1110 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,079 all smiles. Yes, And a guy has written across this this is what 1111 01:21:03,159 --> 01:21:08,079 happens when somebody outside the Air Force sits down and eats an airport's dining facil. 1112 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:14,039 That's what it's like. The Air Force dining experience is five star, 1113 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,760 where the rest of these guys, unless you're on a sub and they got 1114 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:23,039 your captive underneath the waves, is probably one to two stars. Yeah, 1115 01:21:23,119 --> 01:21:26,359 But when the Air Force, there's no expense I mean, you go on 1116 01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:30,680 an Air Force dining facility and it's going to be tablecloths more than three times 1117 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,039 out of the air followup, that's inappropriate. They shouldn't have that. If 1118 01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:36,520 the other guys don't have it, well look it. But I always heard 1119 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,199 so, so you're you're calling this something. I'm gonna call CNN and Fox 1120 01:21:41,279 --> 01:21:45,279 after the show. So what you're saying, is this myth about Navy food 1121 01:21:45,399 --> 01:21:48,479 is just all bs because I've heard that's a recruiting tool Navy food. I 1122 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,520 find no. I think food well, I don't know about a recruiting tool, 1123 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,479 especially with this generation. Jesse, and please back me up because I'm 1124 01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,000 old enough to be in your current league. But go ahead. It's not 1125 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:06,279 uh maybe puts a lot of effort into putting good food out because it's such 1126 01:22:06,279 --> 01:22:11,640 a morale requirement. And in the desert in Iraq, the Army tried really 1127 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,439 hard with the dining facility to do the same thing. But they had third 1128 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,920 country nationals that were working these dining facilities. They spent a lot of money, 1129 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,159 They put a lot of stuff around until you had green bean coffee, 1130 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:28,079 you have all these other kind of b was in a lot of these places 1131 01:22:29,039 --> 01:22:31,079 York City try to make it a little bit better, right, but you 1132 01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:34,960 have to. What happens is when you get broken down a component. When 1133 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:40,239 you're eating an MR and that's what you eat for two weeks. When you 1134 01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:43,640 get something you can actually sit down with the plastic utensils, you think you're 1135 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,600 at the rich Charlton, right, Or if you provide somebody with hot showers 1136 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,319 three nights out of the week, you're going, oh my god, I've 1137 01:22:49,319 --> 01:22:55,760 never had it so good about it? Yeah, okay, all right, 1138 01:22:56,359 --> 01:23:01,319 so it sounds like the fls Winds. I would say in general, I 1139 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,159 don't need the because you hadn't even bring up coast Guard. Okay, I 1140 01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:09,399 hate they asked the icebreaker. Yeah, how was the food in the coast 1141 01:23:09,399 --> 01:23:14,479 Guard? Great out, But the icebreaker, the icebreak breaker tried really hard 1142 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:15,760 and I thought a really good job. In fact, it's one of the 1143 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,439 funniest stories. A guy who does listens to show with a ship made of 1144 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:24,199 mine on the icebreaker paul a Star yes, which is God bless them. 1145 01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:28,319 They're headed up to the North Arctic doing a mission this winter in the dark. 1146 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:32,920 Good. We had to wait out in line and we all ate out 1147 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:38,760 of the same dining facility, and one day a young kid two people down 1148 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,920 from us, because I was an officer, I'm in the same line, 1149 01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:45,920 he started complaining that they had the same thing twice and he was really out 1150 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,000 of shape, and the inside Commandic Corbert's head a little switchway like that, 1151 01:23:50,119 --> 01:23:55,840 and I just I kind of went into this whole psychopathic, really low quality 1152 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,520 voice I got. I was just gonna go, what part of this don't 1153 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,920 you like? Young man? It's going to be served on a clean prey 1154 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:08,960 in an air conditioned environment on the ship. Have you experienced the joys of 1155 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,680 sitting in a desert some place with thugs jumping into your food or your boddies 1156 01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,920 next to you getting sick while you're trying to eat because it's your fifteen minutes 1157 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,359 to eat and its poor kid. I mean, I just crushed them. 1158 01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:24,880 I didn't need to, but it was just it seems so unbelievably unfitting to 1159 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,039 make a complaint. Here we are an air condition ship, self specific, 1160 01:24:29,119 --> 01:24:32,720 headed to Andtarctica in the place because we had him two days in a row 1161 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:39,000 or you gotta be kidney, what were you eating? Maybe it wasn't worth 1162 01:24:39,039 --> 01:24:42,600 it. Two days in a row what were you eating? Well, you 1163 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:48,079 usually had some kind of beef and some kind of Yeah, that's it, 1164 01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:53,760 exactly meat eating. Who wouldn't get sick of that to go with it? 1165 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,079 Plus you had leftovers that were available all the time. Wow, so you 1166 01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:00,920 just never went hungry on a ship? Help me out? Do you ever 1167 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,680 go hungry? Ownership? No? Not us. You don't want to eat, 1168 01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:09,640 they don't eat, yeh, Jesse? How many times were you going 1169 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,920 hungry in the art that happens? A couple of times. A couple of 1170 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,439 times. All right, hey, Valerie, val are you hungry? I 1171 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:24,520 am a little bit. Let's move on. So okay, So so Jesse 1172 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,239 going back to you. So you started the podcast it's called Mudpie, And 1173 01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:32,079 but you talk about like UFOs and paranormal stuff, right right, what's the 1174 01:25:32,119 --> 01:25:36,880 weirdest story you've heard? What's the weirdest thing you've heard? I don't know 1175 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,399 about weird, but probably one of the well, you know what. I 1176 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:46,239 had a conversation with a person who wrote a book on food offerings of fairies 1177 01:25:46,399 --> 01:25:53,680 and sasquatch and aliens and how different entities would trap humans depending on the food 1178 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,680 or drink. Throughout all these like stories throughout times. Interesting, pretty interesting 1179 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,960 conversation. Yeah sure, yeah right, yeah yeah, so like what I 1180 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,279 know that the the guys who look the Bigfoot, they put out big macs 1181 01:26:03,279 --> 01:26:08,920 and stuff, right right, But there he was talking more along the lines 1182 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:14,239 of Bigfoot using food items to attract humans and so that they could keep them 1183 01:26:14,359 --> 01:26:19,319 essentially hostage or slaves, really extraterrestrials. Stories have been told about these, 1184 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:27,319 like so what do they put in big Max? So they actually say he 1185 01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:30,680 said that it might just be something like twigs and sticks and bushes, but 1186 01:26:31,359 --> 01:26:35,640 the perception is of actual food until the person eats the food, and then 1187 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:40,640 it starts to taste like ty and dirty, and then when the person comes 1188 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,359 to it's like just nasty. Sounds like one of cocoas potties from the forest, 1189 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:49,039 essentially bright Coco. Yeah, you're all going to get invited. Yeah, 1190 01:26:49,039 --> 01:26:55,479 you're all going to get invited to Coco's you know his spring potty. 1191 01:26:56,199 --> 01:27:00,800 Yeah yeah, he cannot make them, and autumn he'll win. I'll fly 1192 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:06,000 you in, believe me. So well, mister uh, mister Switchblade has 1193 01:27:06,079 --> 01:27:11,000 just signal really, why don't we take a break then? Okay, because 1194 01:27:11,039 --> 01:27:15,640 so we can all kind of regroup and Okay. So you're listening to Macmoney's 1195 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,680 Military X File show the food segment. Okay, that's what we should do, 1196 01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,640 Coco. We should do a cookbook and have all the guests. Yeah. 1197 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,000 Absolutely, you know, but I just think it's really cool that you 1198 01:27:27,039 --> 01:27:30,760 have this food segment going and you're going to bring in Switchitch and then switch 1199 01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,560 from the submarine with the breakfast in the breakfast silence service and what he had 1200 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:39,159 for b and his breakfast. The biggest part of the show is is that 1201 01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:42,920 what that means? Okay? And here he is calling you know what this 1202 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,960 means? I could just do it with my fingers. Okay, there you 1203 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,479 go. So when do we take a break now and we'll be back with 1204 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,640 more fun. You're listening to mcmoney's Militrasund Show here on the Distant Thunder Radio 1205 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:58,039 Network. We'll be right back after this. 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But for sorry girls, 1223 01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:40,560 but for all you middle aged ladies. Coc always commanded co grow up 1224 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,720 there in the Great White, noth Coco, good evening. Mac is always 1225 01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,920 a privileged to be part of the formation. Flying on the wing chicken wing. 1226 01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:49,680 Yep, okay, everything good with you? You have four feet of 1227 01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:55,439 snow. This is how could it not be better? I've spent eighty eight 1228 01:29:55,439 --> 01:30:01,960 minutes with you so far and went through evening in vain Coco and whiskey combined. 1229 01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:06,319 Really? Yeah? Have you ever actually mixed those two? Oh? 1230 01:30:06,399 --> 01:30:12,560 Yeah, absolutely, Johnny Walker Black with Nestlie's Coco. Oh, it is 1231 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,279 the way to go, my friend, it is Jesse. You're nodding. 1232 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,880 I guess that's in the pantheon. He knows what I'm talking about. Again. 1233 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,600 We're going to get into cuisine of the armed forces here in a little 1234 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,119 bit. This is one thing that would make everybody happy if you can get 1235 01:30:25,119 --> 01:30:28,600 a rush. No, no, no, no, you cannot put Johnny 1236 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:33,119 Walker Black in Coco. What's the matter with you? Absolutely? Absolutely, 1237 01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:38,680 let's move on. Switch plade. Steve One a national correspondent up there in 1238 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,399 Battle Creek, Michigan, the Battle Creek of the Republic. Switchy, how 1239 01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,680 you doing? I am beyond wonderful man. Beyond wonderful, the name of 1240 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,800 his autobiography Okay, now listen, in the past few weeks, we've seen 1241 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:56,520 a change in you. You're looking very professorial, if that's the word. 1242 01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:02,800 Is this by happenstance? Or you have something cooking. I don't know. 1243 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:08,199 I need a haircut, but other than that, I don't know if it's 1244 01:31:08,199 --> 01:31:13,960 if my if it's my countenance or my my hair, the way I spell 1245 01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:17,840 my hair, or my deep knowledge on all subjects. That's it. It's 1246 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:23,199 called cook and your modesty and the mind and your modesty, Yes, my 1247 01:31:23,279 --> 01:31:26,159 modesty that people have always praised me for my mind. It's a big time's 1248 01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:31,439 allegian. It's legion. Okay. Also joining us, by the time I 1249 01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:35,159 introduced everyone, the segment went, we be over value of the fasso, 1250 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:42,000 our favorite impat value. How are you doing? How can you possibly be 1251 01:31:42,079 --> 01:31:45,600 hanging on with us here? It's a fun night. You know, you 1252 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,119 have a good variety of guests on tonight, so this is a lot of 1253 01:31:49,119 --> 01:31:51,800 fun. M hmm, yeah, and half of them are loaded. Can 1254 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:59,479 you tell which have you're an impact? Listen? Also with us is Matthew 1255 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,720 Roberts, who was a cryptologist to pull with the USS Teddy Roosevelt Aircraft carrier 1256 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:09,359 when the pilots on that ship filmed the famous Goufo gimbal video. Matthew, 1257 01:32:09,359 --> 01:32:14,239 thanks for joining us, Thank you okay, and you have books out that 1258 01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,439 we're gonna plug, don't worry. Also, our good friend Jesse Kwansei up 1259 01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:23,800 there in Montana, ten year army veteran, came back to Montana back to 1260 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,399 a place that so small the cops text them when bears are about. That's 1261 01:32:28,399 --> 01:32:31,640 out there, baby. And he has a podcast called Mudpie, kind of 1262 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:36,600 a paranormal military podcast. Thanks Jesse for joining us. We appreciate it. 1263 01:32:38,399 --> 01:32:42,600 Yeah, thanks for having me, okay and now joining the group. Durin 1264 01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:47,239 the formation and we need a doctor, doctor Bruce. How you doing tonight? 1265 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,319 Bruce Sallheim? Hey, right, yeah, hello, wallow to everybody. 1266 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:57,039 Where are you out in California? Somewhere? Yeah? Near Los Angeles? 1267 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,439 Really? Yeah? Huh? What's it like out there these days? 1268 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,199 Is it hot? Is it warm? Is it it's warm? Yep? 1269 01:33:03,279 --> 01:33:06,800 Okay, yep. So listen, so before we start what, Yeah, 1270 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,680 we've been talking for about an hour on like military food, and we had 1271 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,920 a couple of comments off here, so we're going to get back that we 1272 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:18,399 have to time outfore we have to get back to switch. This is rated 1273 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:25,039 the highest skew of our entire two hour show. Okay, look he's shaking 1274 01:33:25,039 --> 01:33:28,720 his head and discussed. But I'll tell you it's false modesty. It's not 1275 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,640 discussed. Okay, I'm not discussed. I used the wrong word. Another 1276 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:38,279 word, incredulity. Is that wow slowed down the egg head on sweat. 1277 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:43,199 Wow. There was a lot of syllables. Yes, he has que guites 1278 01:33:43,239 --> 01:33:45,039 and he's got the big cup. So listen, everyone wants to know, 1279 01:33:45,119 --> 01:33:51,039 Switchy, what did you have for breakfast? Uh? This? Uh? 1280 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,920 This morning? I had Uh. I made a couple of scrambled eggs. 1281 01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:59,840 We have to added some green pepper green and a little bit of shredded cheese 1282 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,920 Colby Jack short of cheese, really, And I had three strips of bacon 1283 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,600 and had a little bit of corn beef hash leftover, just a little bit, 1284 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:12,199 so I added that and then two toasted two pieces of white toast. 1285 01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,199 Not you know, not the stuff off the shelf, but the stuff on 1286 01:34:15,239 --> 01:34:20,119 the bakery's side in the store. Sure, And next trying to say yes, 1287 01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:24,000 well, actually the intlement is on the opposite side of the as a 1288 01:34:24,079 --> 01:34:28,760 particular store. But that's another story. Wow, and added some uh land 1289 01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,760 of lakes of butter, the sauce bread, the sauce bread, yeah, 1290 01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,039 the fake butter. Okay, yep, all right, with hot black coffee 1291 01:34:34,119 --> 01:34:38,760 and orange juice. Wow, orange juice. You tied to a guy who 1292 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:43,680 has a piece of toast every morning. So you know the bacon. Let 1293 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,479 me just ask you, what was the bacon? Was it within the expiration 1294 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:53,760 date? Yes, I suspect it was funky and it tasted pretty good. 1295 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,600 That's you shouldn't suspect those things. You should nail those down. We got 1296 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,640 a lot of we got a lot of e mails wondering about whether you should 1297 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,760 be eating expired bacon or not. But then people are saying, bacon, 1298 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:08,520 never bacon. I had a couple of weeks ago there was some bacon that 1299 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,359 was definitely suspect, and so I got rid of it. You got rid 1300 01:35:12,359 --> 01:35:14,720 of it. You did the right thing. So listen. But people write 1301 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,159 into me and say, bacon never go bacon never goes wrong. The whole 1302 01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:20,479 idea of bacon is that it's salted pork. Coco. You should know this, 1303 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:28,239 but salted pork absolutely, yes? What what what do I look like? 1304 01:35:28,279 --> 01:35:30,920 I would know the insight track on bacon. Well you have pigs, 1305 01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,520 you you you have bacon walking around your back? You got no, no, 1306 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:40,840 no pigs. Okay, of courses, all right, geese chickens. 1307 01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:45,279 Missus Cobra does want to get a baby pick? Really she said that to 1308 01:35:45,319 --> 01:35:50,439 you. I say, look at me, sweetheart, Coco doing material. 1309 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:56,680 So listen. So, Bruce, I just remember our last conversation when the 1310 01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,439 last thing you said before we went off the year is that you had you 1311 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:06,239 had relatives who were in the Gestapo. Correct, Yes, my dad's youngest 1312 01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:13,960 sister sister. Okay, so talk about books. So yeah, So what 1313 01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:19,000 was she up to? Well, she worked in Oslo, the capital city, 1314 01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:26,119 and she worked with a guy named Colonel Famer, and her job was 1315 01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:30,000 to find members of the underground and she was able to lure like nine of 1316 01:36:30,039 --> 01:36:38,199 them and they were all captured and ultimately tortured and executed. So she was 1317 01:36:38,279 --> 01:36:44,680 charged with war crimes and sentenced to death and she was going to be shot 1318 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:50,079 at the at the Akers whose castle there in Oslo in the harbor. But 1319 01:36:50,119 --> 01:36:57,880 then my dad's oldest brother was a war hero convoy commander working for the British 1320 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:02,079 and he used his reputation and all of his money to get her sentence commuted 1321 01:37:02,119 --> 01:37:06,359 to life, of which she only did nine years. And did she did 1322 01:37:06,399 --> 01:37:12,039 she get out of did she die in prison? No, she got out 1323 01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:15,920 after nine years. She claimed that she had gone insane, but she was 1324 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:19,880 crazy like a fox. Well they got out and did very well, as 1325 01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:25,359 had a c P A business. Yeah, Coco, this is the movie, 1326 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:30,600 A Strange Lady, this is the movie. Wow, Doctor Bruce had 1327 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:35,039 explained a little bit and we shot a little bit of air. Yeah, 1328 01:37:35,159 --> 01:37:40,479 it's a it's a crazy word crazy. So he's got a break a junk 1329 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,520 that by oh man, there was there was actually a movie. Uh, 1330 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,199 she wasn't in the movie, but there was a Norwegian movie called Max Manus. 1331 01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:54,119 He's a famous resistance fighter and there's a scene where there they set up 1332 01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:58,640 to the members of the resistance at a cafe in Oslo. And actually it 1333 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,039 was my aunt who set up that at that meet okay, and that led 1334 01:38:02,079 --> 01:38:05,600 to their capture. We're getting texts, Yeah, she was. She was 1335 01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:10,880 pretty pretty infamous. We're getting texts and emails. Everyone wants to know what 1336 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,479 what she looked like. Was she someone who was alluring them like a BA 1337 01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,239 type thing. Yes, she was very attractive. I have yes everyone. 1338 01:38:18,279 --> 01:38:23,800 I think I might have showed it briefly a TV radio show. Cousin wrote 1339 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:29,000 a book. Yes, and the title that's in Norwegian look at doing and 1340 01:38:29,079 --> 01:38:32,479 shook optaine. It means the decoy and the sea captain. Yes and there. 1341 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,279 It's kind of a look there. Okay, do you have a picture 1342 01:38:36,279 --> 01:38:43,319 of her? And then there she is and my uncle who was the war 1343 01:38:43,359 --> 01:38:46,159 hero, a little bit of a Judy. This is a pretty attractive judy 1344 01:38:46,199 --> 01:38:50,720 gown, wizard of She had a country girl. She had an innocent country 1345 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:59,520 girl look. But she was not innocent, wow, writes itself. Okay, 1346 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,039 good for you. Yeah, so she was. She was deadly, 1347 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:08,520 very deadly, very interesting. Uh, lady she had she was unrepentant as 1348 01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,800 a as a Nazi really so really, I mean she had Nazi books on 1349 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,319 her bookshelf. Spoke perfect German. Uh, to the point where German people 1350 01:39:16,359 --> 01:39:21,239 I knew thought she was German. So how does she know German so well? 1351 01:39:21,319 --> 01:39:27,439 She was Norwegian? Norwegian? Yeah, no Norwegian? Wow, huh. 1352 01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,079 Yeah. So that's the reason that that's the reason I'm here in the 1353 01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:34,680 United States because my dad and my mom didn't want to hear, or especially 1354 01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:39,279 my dad didn't want to hear about his Nazi sister anymore. After the war, 1355 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:44,000 as you can gather, it was pretty unpopular story. So they moved 1356 01:39:44,039 --> 01:39:46,000 to America to kind of get away from that. You know, it's kind 1357 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:51,359 of like being Charles Manson's brother or something. Wow, you want to get 1358 01:39:51,399 --> 01:39:55,359 away from it. He's a tough guy to wow. Huh. Yeah. 1359 01:39:55,600 --> 01:40:00,960 So listen. So now you were a NAMI pilot, right, Yeah, 1360 01:40:00,079 --> 01:40:04,039 I started off as an E one. I was a jail guard in a 1361 01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:08,720 military prison. Okay. I worked in a state prison too, maximum security, 1362 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:11,720 went back in, went to flight school, yes, and I became 1363 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,039 a warrant officer. I was in the air calf. I was a scout, 1364 01:40:15,279 --> 01:40:21,239 aerial scout, okay. And well, Jesse was Jesse did a bunch. 1365 01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:26,159 He did some toys in Iraq, and he was ferried around a lot 1366 01:40:26,199 --> 01:40:30,359 in black Hawks and so on and so forth. Right, Jesse, Yes, 1367 01:40:30,399 --> 01:40:33,359 sir, I was the aviation ops guy. And then a battle in 1368 01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:40,039 co for some flight type units, small small little detachment. Say. I 1369 01:40:40,039 --> 01:40:42,359 spent a lot of time in the U age sixties, once or twice in 1370 01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:46,000 a fifty eight. Yeah, so I was well, I was in so 1371 01:40:46,119 --> 01:40:50,600 long ago that the Blackhawks were just coming in when I left the service. 1372 01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:55,279 So really yeah, okay, I flew I flew us quite a bit. 1373 01:40:55,359 --> 01:40:58,760 The old uh one. I gotta say, you don't that I love you. 1374 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,039 Don't look that old doctor Gros. You don't. But that's that's a 1375 01:41:01,039 --> 01:41:04,000 while ago. Yeah, the Hues they're still around though. Hues are still 1376 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:09,319 around, right yeah, not left on act of duty, oh non, 1377 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,960 okay, yeah, but I think they have some at Fort Irwin for like 1378 01:41:13,079 --> 01:41:15,840 op forces training, op for training and stuff like that, right, yeah, 1379 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,680 special use, but yeah, not on acturbute. People always talk about 1380 01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:23,159 like classic airplanes and stuff like that. If you ever want to talk about 1381 01:41:23,159 --> 01:41:28,920 a classic helicopter, the Hue has like did everything and for years and years 1382 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:34,199 and years, real utility in excess of twelve thousand of those air preferable really 1383 01:41:34,279 --> 01:41:36,960 yeah, and there's still variance today. They're out there flying. Were they 1384 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:44,359 easy to fly? Easy? Uh? Huh. All helicopters are difficult to 1385 01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:47,920 fly. But I would say I like the Healey a lot. It was 1386 01:41:48,319 --> 01:41:53,800 very simple technology and I didn't have a lot of fancy stuff that would break 1387 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:57,960 and it was easier to maintain for the guys to maintain yep, the electronics 1388 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,119 and the you know, the mechanical parts of it. So it was in 1389 01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:03,279 that way it was it was better because when the the other helped, the 1390 01:42:03,319 --> 01:42:09,239 newer ones came in, especially the apaches, he had a lot of downtime 1391 01:42:09,279 --> 01:42:13,439 for maintenance and very fancy. Yeah, they're fancy. So like I flew 1392 01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:18,760 with guys who flew the Cobra too, so right, And although my friend 1393 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:24,079 who flew Cobras he liked, uh, he liked the the black he went 1394 01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:28,119 transitioned into black Hawks. He liked those better. Like Cobra's was skinny Hueyes, 1395 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,239 you know they were like skinny hueyes, in a way. Yeah, 1396 01:42:31,279 --> 01:42:36,520 same company, yeah, same company. So had a narrow profile. Right 1397 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:40,560 Where were where were you flying? Where were you doing all your flying in 1398 01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:45,479 the hulleyes? Uh, it was in Uh. I never went into combat. 1399 01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:49,119 I always like to say that, but I was at Fort Bragg. 1400 01:42:49,239 --> 01:42:53,680 I was in eighty second Airborne. Really yeah, wow, you one of 1401 01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:57,600 those guys. Geez, you were copped the pilot in the eighty second Airborne. 1402 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,720 Yeah, first seventeenth Air Cavalry and also the Combat Aviation Battalion. Yeah, 1403 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:09,840 well and and then yeah yeah, Jesse, So listen, so when 1404 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,640 you were in what were you win? What was the name of your unit 1405 01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,399 and so on? Uh, well, it depends on where my first deployment, 1406 01:43:15,399 --> 01:43:18,640 I was part of second Brigade Combat Team, fourth Infantry Division. Okay. 1407 01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,039 When I was in Korea, I worked in second CAB two I D 1408 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:27,279 And then my last just like station before I was a recruiter, was Task 1409 01:43:27,319 --> 01:43:29,960 Force Odin and forthood. So I kind of jumped around every couple of years. 1410 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:31,439 So what do you think of these what do you think of these eighty 1411 01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,760 second end one guys? What do you think of these guys? Are they 1412 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:42,039 they walking around like the rock stars? Correct? Yeah, they are quite 1413 01:43:42,039 --> 01:43:45,560 an air of whoa I believe the word is pachet. They have a certain 1414 01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,479 paschet. Oh really yeah? Okay, wow, Okay, let's which has 1415 01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:54,680 many meetings in the army. Sorry, doctor Bruce, Sorry, you should 1416 01:43:54,680 --> 01:44:00,560 have got us that marijuana description. So let's let's go up to Let's go 1417 01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,279 up the valerie, our mpath valerie. Can he give us a pulse? 1418 01:44:02,359 --> 01:44:09,159 Please? She's looking as disgusted as she's ever bad. Please tell us I'm 1419 01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:13,640 not disgusted now, okay, but it's good. Like I said, there's 1420 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:17,640 a good variety of guests, so it's you know, the energy is high 1421 01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:21,000 in a positive way. Can you imagine if wan one was here what this 1422 01:44:21,039 --> 01:44:24,600 would be like. It'd be totally it. We'd be like the Three Stooges 1423 01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:29,239 in nine little frames. Right. So so all right, let's go back 1424 01:44:29,279 --> 01:44:30,880 to food. Okay, for some reason, we're talking about military food tonight. 1425 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,880 I'm sorry, but gros Off the year you said that you were in 1426 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:41,000 a military prison, correct, So it is an army military prison. Yeah, 1427 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:45,079 it was the US Army confinement facility in Mannheim, West Germany when it 1428 01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:47,880 was East and West Germany. That sounds it really no longer exists. I 1429 01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:51,720 think they tore it down. But it was horrible, okay, And it 1430 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:57,600 was we'd have to eat the prison food made by the prisoners, which is 1431 01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,880 not that's a scary proposition. So the food was horrible. So I ended 1432 01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,880 up just bringing my own food. But every once in a while I put 1433 01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,399 my life on the line and ate some of the real from there. It. 1434 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,720 Let I tell you this one night, go ahead, that they had 1435 01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,640 three three of the cooks in there were were murderers. They had committed at 1436 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,439 least one murder. And they all had knives and they were like cutting beef 1437 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,680 and stuff. And I'm thinking, who, who's the knucklehead who put these 1438 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:26,399 three guys in the kitchen with knives? Yeah, and one of them had 1439 01:45:26,399 --> 01:45:30,279 actually stabbed somebody to death? You know, really, has that knucklehead made 1440 01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:32,880 that assign? Wow? And and it wasn't like they were spinning. Let's 1441 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,600 go, let's talk fault the inspiration of your culinary chest. Right, yeah, 1442 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:40,119 you never leave, doctor Bruce. Let's have a more open mind, 1443 01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:44,119 really, doctor Bruce. Listen, it wasn't like they were spitting in your 1444 01:45:44,119 --> 01:45:46,880 food, right, The prisoners wouldn't do that to the prison gods a person. 1445 01:45:47,239 --> 01:45:49,479 Okay, all right, so you don't have to worry there. In 1446 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:57,760 the maximum security prison that I worked in in Minnesota, we found like metal 1447 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:01,000 shavings, like from a metal lathe go ahead. And then the mashed potatoes. 1448 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,000 Oh really, yeah, trying to put a little iron into your diet. 1449 01:46:04,079 --> 01:46:08,880 Understand why it has to be such negativity, bumping on the negative, 1450 01:46:09,039 --> 01:46:11,800 the bumping out. That was the first and last time I ate in that 1451 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,039 maximum scirity dining hall. So listen to get into Matt, I just kind 1452 01:46:15,079 --> 01:46:17,920 of throw this out back. I'm yes, go ahead, food on the 1453 01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,439 Teddy Roosevelt. Starting to sound a little bit better. Now, Yeah, 1454 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:24,960 I'm not hugging anymore? Are we bumping up the star? I have a 1455 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,720 little did I know? I was fine dining on the aircraft carrier right, 1456 01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:36,079 It was like you were on a cruise. Wow. As a professor. 1457 01:46:36,119 --> 01:46:41,399 I was visiting the Boxer, the USS Boxer, Yes, the amphibious assault 1458 01:46:41,399 --> 01:46:46,279 ship and we went from Singapore to uh Fouquet in Thailand and uh so I 1459 01:46:46,319 --> 01:46:50,079 was a civilian on board as a professor, teaching them how to use how 1460 01:46:50,119 --> 01:46:54,279 to do online education. This is like before nine to eleven, so this 1461 01:46:54,319 --> 01:46:57,680 is a long time ago. Go ahead. But they said I could eat 1462 01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,720 with the officers, right, And I did that and then I thought that's 1463 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,319 pretty boring. So then they said, well, you know you can if 1464 01:47:03,359 --> 01:47:05,119 you want to eat with the crew, you can. So I went and 1465 01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:09,680 I stood online, you know, with the with the crew, and they 1466 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:11,319 said, hey, you can be in front of me, and I said 1467 01:47:11,359 --> 01:47:14,119 no, I'll wait my turn. I got there and there's like a dog 1468 01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:16,439 dish, you know. They gave me and by the time I got through 1469 01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,920 the line, there was hardly any food less. Oh and I sat down 1470 01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,479 and these guys are looking at me like, why are you eating with us? 1471 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,720 Yeah, and you should be eaten in the officers mess I said no, 1472 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,159 I wanted to be with the crew, and then they kind of thought 1473 01:47:30,199 --> 01:47:32,359 that was cool. So yeah, okay, all right, but yeah, 1474 01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,680 it just reminds me that I think the food is okay, there just wasn't 1475 01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:39,520 enough of it by the time I got through the jewel line. So so 1476 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,000 going back to the prison for a second. What's the name of the prison 1477 01:47:42,039 --> 01:47:48,479 because it just sounds terrible. The US Army Confinement Facility in Mannheim, West 1478 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:53,199 German. Okay, so what so these are we had a population go ahead, 1479 01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,279 these are all Army and Air Force guys. Army and Air Force. 1480 01:47:57,319 --> 01:48:00,359 We always had about two hundred of them from all over the European Command. 1481 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:04,680 And what was just like from seventy nine to eighty one. Wow, that's 1482 01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:08,239 when I was there. How old are you? You look like you're about 1483 01:48:08,319 --> 01:48:12,439 We have murderers, we had yet, go ahead, we had murderers, 1484 01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,520 rapists, we had guys selling arms and ammunition to terrorists. You know, 1485 01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,159 we had all kinds of terrible. Really. Yeah, so that's what it 1486 01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:21,119 took. That's what it took, something like that to get locked up where 1487 01:48:21,159 --> 01:48:26,239 you were. Well, we had those guys, and then we had the 1488 01:48:26,239 --> 01:48:29,920 guys who hit their commanding officer too or did something, you know, in 1489 01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,680 subordination. They were there for a shorter period of time. But the ones 1490 01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:38,079 that did serious stuff, we processed them to go back to Fort Leavenworth to 1491 01:48:38,119 --> 01:48:42,560 do hard time. Yes, yeah, at the disciplinary bars make little rocks 1492 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,279 out of big ones. That was not the place to go. No, 1493 01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,000 Hey, Jesse, I gartered a guy on death row. Oh really on 1494 01:48:48,039 --> 01:48:53,079 death row. They're at the disciplinary ver he wanted to I remember that guy. 1495 01:48:53,159 --> 01:48:55,479 Yeah, did he want to go? Oh? Was he afraid? 1496 01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:57,800 Did he want to go? Or was he He was nuts? He was 1497 01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,439 completely nuts, nuts, He was completely nuts. He killed three guys in 1498 01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,920 a tank. He was he was a tank commander, he was an n 1499 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:08,760 c O. And he fired his tank into another tank and killed the guys 1500 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,000 that were I think it was at least three guys in there that died. 1501 01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,680 And he gave no reason other than he wanted to get out of the army. 1502 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,000 That was the only thing I heard well that did it, so he 1503 01:49:16,079 --> 01:49:19,680 was sentenced to death. He rimmed his tank into another tank and killed the 1504 01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:25,159 three guys in his tank. He shot a round into another tank. Really, 1505 01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,600 I think they called it a sable Yeah. Yeah, the sable round 1506 01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,600 goes through the goes through the hall and explodes inside. Yeah. Wow wow, 1507 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,439 what a way. Yeah, what a way to get out of the 1508 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:38,680 army. Yeah. People can look him up. Wyatt, Wyatt, Matthews. 1509 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:43,479 His sentence was commuted though it was he's doing life. Really he should 1510 01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,640 have been like Clinger and didn't get put to death, should have been like 1511 01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,640 Cleaner and wore address. Three people would still be around today. Hey, 1512 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,680 listen, Jesse, you I haven't wanted to take a swing at one of 1513 01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:54,600 your offices ever. Want to take a swing at one of your offices? 1514 01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:59,479 Have you taken a swing at one of your offices? I don't think I've 1515 01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,359 ever taken a I've gotten in some pretty heated arguments, but I think in 1516 01:50:02,399 --> 01:50:08,239 the especially like downrange, when most of those conflicts would happen, everybody kind 1517 01:50:08,399 --> 01:50:13,079 understands for the most part that it's just tensions are really high and conflict like 1518 01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:15,920 that's more likely going to happen at some point. So were you ever in 1519 01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:21,960 a tight spot in Iraq? Justing, yes, yes, tell us the 1520 01:50:23,239 --> 01:50:29,000 tell us the hairiest one please m One time, I think I was working 1521 01:50:29,359 --> 01:50:33,239 at this airfield and we had just gotten to this airfield, really small little 1522 01:50:33,279 --> 01:50:38,960 fob, really small airfield that could hold I think four U Age sixties and 1523 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:44,079 then one really small foreign aircraft because we were working with coalition forces like some 1524 01:50:44,119 --> 01:50:49,159 people from other countries, and we had gotten probably like forty or fifty rocket 1525 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:54,279 like landing inside of this small area in a matter of like two hours. 1526 01:50:54,319 --> 01:50:58,199 Maybe it destroyed our defact, destroyed a bunch of the barracks that we were 1527 01:50:58,239 --> 01:51:01,000 in, destroyed the truck that was like parked right behind the building that I 1528 01:51:01,079 --> 01:51:06,760 was in with my soldiers. Basically like when the round started coming in, 1529 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:11,079 we had our soldiers like out as a E five E six at the time, 1530 01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:14,079 so I had five or six soldiers directly under me, yep, and 1531 01:51:14,119 --> 01:51:15,479 we just basically told them all to drop to the floor. And then when 1532 01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:20,159 we dropped down, big blasts and we look up and there's just metal shrapnel 1533 01:51:20,319 --> 01:51:24,079 just high enough over the HESCO barriers. Because we used to have these big 1534 01:51:24,159 --> 01:51:27,840 sand like this big sand bag things filled with rocks and gravel and stuff to 1535 01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:32,119 kind of prevent shrapnel fire from getting like five feet in below. But everything 1536 01:51:32,159 --> 01:51:36,479 over that was just pretty much trashed through our whole living area and eating area, 1537 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,640 and it was it was a mess. I think some dude died in 1538 01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,479 the outhouse, a couple of Arzilians died in the building. And yeah, 1539 01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:45,880 it was a rough couple hours. Yeah, two hours, man, Oh 1540 01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:50,520 geez, that's really tough. So it's funny we talked about military food, 1541 01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:55,000 but like, I couldn't believe anything they stood after that. It's the only 1542 01:51:55,079 --> 01:51:58,680 thing I can say. So, yeah, who was you know, mortoring 1543 01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:02,039 you? It sounds like a rocketing with like Iraqi insurgents, Saddam's boys that 1544 01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:06,319 yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, mostly insurgency. It's just there's so 1545 01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:11,439 many used They have access to so many of these old rounds and rockets, 1546 01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:15,840 and they would just jerry rigamond old rails and this place was in a really 1547 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,920 bad location. There was a lot of terrain much higher farther away, and 1548 01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,880 they could just basically aim rocket rails down, set them on timers and you'd 1549 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:25,319 never find these people because they could walk away for an hour or two, 1550 01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:30,039 and then it would just be one after another until however many rockets they had 1551 01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:33,439 wow finish firing off. Yeah, they got real good at it. They 1552 01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:39,199 got real good at improvising stuff. You know. I hate to say, 1553 01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,960 Hey, listen, so we're coming to the end, so I'm gonna have 1554 01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,000 everyone plug. Okay, so let's not Bruce. Let's start with you, 1555 01:52:45,119 --> 01:52:51,039 Bruce. What are you doing lately? Please tell us? Well, I'm 1556 01:52:51,079 --> 01:52:57,760 working on a actually a comic book. It comes out in the free Yes, 1557 01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:04,000 got a radio show not but yeah. Is it about a non Yeah, 1558 01:53:04,039 --> 01:53:08,640 so that's pretty cool. Is it about probably March April? Is it 1559 01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:12,359 about dark too? So it's actually the same. It's it's a graphic novel. 1560 01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:15,239 The first one was a comic, but this one's actually graphic novel. 1561 01:53:15,319 --> 01:53:20,199 Is it about a knock? That's no, it's about it. It's an 1562 01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:28,039 alien hybrid character comes to Earth with a mission to uh prepare us for invasion? 1563 01:53:28,119 --> 01:53:32,520 So good sounds good sci fi humor history. Okay, welcome back on 1564 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,239 when it comes out, let us know, come back on okay, yes, 1565 01:53:36,319 --> 01:53:40,359 okay. And that's a great story about your your aunt, right, 1566 01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:45,079 you're good looking aunt? Is that what happened your aunt. Yeah, she 1567 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,439 was. She was always. She kept herself very you know, till the 1568 01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,239 end. Really she died and I think she's about eighty, but she still 1569 01:53:51,279 --> 01:53:56,680 looked pretty good. But yeah, kind of an evil, evil heart. 1570 01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:00,680 It's a real good thing. Loved animals though, isn't it. She loved 1571 01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:02,840 animals, Oh my goodness. Yes, she loved animals more than people. 1572 01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:06,279 So she took in rescue animals and stuff. Really. Yeah, Okay, 1573 01:54:06,319 --> 01:54:12,000 well that's uh, the fact I didn't want to get on her talk politics. 1574 01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,039 It's good advice anyone. Thank you doctor Bruce for joining us. We'll 1575 01:54:16,079 --> 01:54:19,439 talk to real soon. Okay, looking forward to the comic book. Yeah, 1576 01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:24,199 I appreciate it. Cool. Hey Jesse, thanks for joining us once 1577 01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:27,279 again. You plug your podcast. We had a lot of fun. I 1578 01:54:27,319 --> 01:54:29,359 was on there about a month ago. I saw we had a lot of 1579 01:54:29,399 --> 01:54:33,279 fun. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah. My podcast is mud 1580 01:54:33,319 --> 01:54:38,000 By Podcast I do with my friend Ryan. Will you talk about any fringe 1581 01:54:38,039 --> 01:54:44,640 topics specifically or mostly UFO's conspiracy, alternative history type things, really, anything 1582 01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:48,720 that's not generally discussed among circles of people. Did you see anything when you 1583 01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:55,000 were in Iraq? Did you see anything weird flying around paranormal, you know, 1584 01:54:55,119 --> 01:54:57,760 not that not that I noticed. And at that point in my life, 1585 01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,600 I wasn't really looking into that stuff, so I was looking forward or 1586 01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,399 really my mind wasn't really open to any of that. I was just kind 1587 01:55:03,439 --> 01:55:06,079 of focused on what we were doing right there. Yeah, right, mud 1588 01:55:06,119 --> 01:55:10,279 Pie mud Pie Podcast. It's really cool. Yeah, we got a good 1589 01:55:10,279 --> 01:55:12,680 time on that. Thanks for joining us, Jess. We'll talk to soon. 1590 01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:16,279 Okay, thank you, Hey, matth Thanks Matthew Roberts up there in 1591 01:55:16,399 --> 01:55:21,439 uh in, Arizona. The name of your book again, Matthew. It's 1592 01:55:21,479 --> 01:55:29,880 called Initiated by Matthew Robert. It's available on Amazon in digital form or paperback. 1593 01:55:30,239 --> 01:55:32,199 Matthew Roberts. Yeah, I've read it. It's a great book. 1594 01:55:32,279 --> 01:55:35,560 It's a good there you go, and that's not long, matt I read 1595 01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:39,439 it. I read your book, just got it and I read it right 1596 01:55:39,479 --> 01:55:42,520 through really quick. It was really good. Wow. Good for you, 1597 01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,920 Yeah, good for you, Good for you. Yeah, Matthew, Yeah, 1598 01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,279 it must be a great book. Thanks for joining us, and thanks 1599 01:55:47,319 --> 01:55:51,640 for putting the light the myth that navy food is good. It's just kind 1600 01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:55,359 of meant some Messa. Thank you. Thank you for having me. We'll 1601 01:55:55,359 --> 01:55:59,279 talk to you soon. Okay, Valerie, I hate to say goodbye to 1602 01:55:59,319 --> 01:56:04,239 you because you're ravishing listen, so just give us give us a report card 1603 01:56:04,279 --> 01:56:11,119 for the two wows please. It's it's been an interesting show. You know, 1604 01:56:11,199 --> 01:56:15,439 You've had some uh different topics from what I'm used to you guys talking 1605 01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:17,159 about. So okay, it's good. It's been a it's been a good 1606 01:56:17,159 --> 01:56:20,920 show like food. Okay, all right, well, thanks for joining us. 1607 01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,159 We really appreciate. We'll talk to you soon. In the name of 1608 01:56:24,199 --> 01:56:30,520 your book is a friends series. The newest one is the Last Hour. 1609 01:56:30,239 --> 01:56:35,760 The Last Hour, okay, go on Amazon value Lafasso. The Tangled Web 1610 01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:41,319 of Friends is the name of the series, right yep, okay, thanks 1611 01:56:41,399 --> 01:56:45,279 for joining having me on. Switchy has the train Wreck image up and back 1612 01:56:45,279 --> 01:56:47,560 of them, so that means the show is coming to an end. Thank 1613 01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:53,800 you, professor, Switch my pleasure. Okay, you sure you're not taking 1614 01:56:54,039 --> 01:56:58,960 on my really quick Switch. We had a sweet Waters update. It's coming, 1615 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:03,319 so military's actually it's coming. So we're in negotiation. Yes, we're 1616 01:57:03,319 --> 01:57:09,840 in negotiations. Switch is going to be an employee at sweet Waters Donut Mill 1617 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:13,880 and Balot Cree, Michigan sometime in January, we hope, and he's going 1618 01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:17,039 to be an employee for a while. It's going to involve making donuts and 1619 01:57:17,079 --> 01:57:20,079 also pushing the broom. Switchy, you're okay with both of those things. 1620 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,319 I'm okay with all those things. And also i'd like to say you can 1621 01:57:25,399 --> 01:57:29,439 hear me on the High Strangest Factor on the pernomal UK Radio network. And 1622 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,520 I'm also featured in The Mothman Legacy by Small Town Monsters as one of the 1623 01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:36,800 talking heads, which is a sequel to The Mothman of Point Pleasant. And 1624 01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:41,640 I'm also writing a book as yet to have a title. Wow, he's 1625 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,840 never been out sometime this decade. He's never plugged anything before. Home of 1626 01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,680 a sudden. This is something he's on adderall or something. Something's up from 1627 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:53,119 him. Yes, would they call it? There was no label in the 1628 01:57:53,119 --> 01:57:56,000 bottle, so I don't know what it was. Exactly, Thank you, 1629 01:57:56,039 --> 01:58:00,119 Switchy, Cocoa. Wait a repeat, right, exactly, Coco, thank 1630 01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:03,039 you? What can I say? You filled the JJ's big clown shoes. 1631 01:58:03,079 --> 01:58:08,319 We appreciate it. Well, well, you know it's a mission, Mac 1632 01:58:08,399 --> 01:58:12,199 you call me. I try to be there. Mission completed mission accomplished. 1633 01:58:12,239 --> 01:58:15,319 Thank you very much. Thanks for everyone for joining us. I just go 1634 01:58:15,439 --> 01:58:17,600 very quickly. The plugs are Homes for our troops. Homes for our Troops 1635 01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:24,720 is a military charity. They built homes so wounded Iraqi and Fanny war veterans, 1636 01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,520 and then they give them the home, They adapt the home to whatever 1637 01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:31,039 their disability might be. They give them the keys, no mortgage, nothing, 1638 01:58:31,159 --> 01:58:34,920 Homes for our Troops. Please google them. Eighty eight cents of every 1639 01:58:35,239 --> 01:58:41,039 dollar that you contribute go to our troops and our veterans. And they're the 1640 01:58:41,119 --> 01:58:45,760 highest military charity there is out there. Also the People's Mosquito Project Ross Shop. 1641 01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,479 Our good friend and a bunch of his mad english Men putting back together 1642 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:54,760 a mosquito war plane from World War Two. It was a wooden plane that 1643 01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:58,119 made by Cabinet Makings because the UK was running out of steel and metal, 1644 01:58:58,399 --> 01:59:00,479 and they put two rolls Royce engines on it and it turned out to be 1645 01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:04,159 one of the fastest things in the wall. People's Mosquito Project. These guys 1646 01:59:04,199 --> 01:59:06,840 are putting it back together and they're going to give us rides on it. 1647 01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:13,279 Coco Correct working on that mac working on it. Thank you very much. 1648 01:59:13,319 --> 01:59:17,439 Okay, let's parachutes included. And we're a podcast now. We're everywhere. 1649 01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:21,960 Just if you have an Alexa, go to macloney's Military x Doyles on Apple 1650 01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:26,720 Podcasts. We're around about twenty eight different platforms. JJ knows them all, 1651 01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,279 but he's not here. Thanks for everyone downloading us. We really appreciate and 1652 01:59:30,319 --> 01:59:32,720 we love the people in the UK. Thanks for everyone listening, and this 1653 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:36,119 is Mac for the entire gang and to hear us. Next time, be 1654 01:59:36,199 --> 01:59:39,760 safe, to be happy, and bye bye