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I'm a man of the people.
Grant, that's going to say you k

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wait coms Perel Hotline, ring another
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how you doing this evening? My
friend? You are a man of

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the people. I'd have to say, like, that's the number one thing

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people don't understand that Benjamin alright in
real life he's one of the best people

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I know, man, So I
have to throw that out there. I

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appreciate it. Yeah, the character
I play on Twitter is just a little

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far from you know, actual me. But you know, whatever, it's

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it's it is what it is.
I'm gonna start off by asking you what

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you would do, because we'll get
to what the Broncos are going to do,

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what we think they're going to do, all that kind of stuff.

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But if general manager Cody Roark was
going into this draft the way that it's

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set up, what would be your
aim? What would what would you be

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trying to pull off? Here?
You know, I feel like, for

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me, I know the quarterback that
I would take right uh you know,

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for me, I would take bow
nixt but I'm not going to take him

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twelfth overall here. If I have
a field, he's going to be available

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maybe late, you know, late
round one, if you can maybe trade

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back a little bit or even like
early round two, if you can try

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to you know, trading, you
know, changing place someone at twelve is

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going to get you maybe an early
spot in round two and you can double

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dip at the end of round one
there I would take, you know,

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ideally bow a second round if that's
the case, and I would add,

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to be honest, to another wide
receiver into the mix. Heere for the

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Broncos. And the reason I say
that, I think is just because of

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the development this week right with obviously
Cortland not reporting for voluntary workouts, which

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is completely fine as voluntary, but
the fact that you know, he was

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the only guy that Russell Wilson told
last year when everything was going on behind

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the scenes, Courtland, you know, is now Cortin's playing the levers to

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his you know, his ability,
which I think at this point he's going

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to be, hey, extend me
or trade me, which I think at

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this point I think the team might
look to trade him versus extending him at

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this point. So if that's going
to be the case, if that's what

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Dever's going to do, go get
you a round one wide receiver to parallomside,

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Tim Patrick, Marvin Nims, Josh
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some run, and then hey,
you have another guy into the mix.

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It's going to be a round for
quite some time. To me, that

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is the most appealing move that I
would do. The TM. Yeah,

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and I tend to agree with that
if I'm saying to twelve, if I'm

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looking at the trade back and the
possibility of picking up bone Nicks. By

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the way, if you looked at
the betting propositions, bo Nix is currently

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the over under on him is thirty
two and a half, with it heavily

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weighted to him being later than pick
thirty two. It's minus two hundred that

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he'd be picked after thirty two plus
one sixty if you think he's going before

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that, so he can makes up
some money. If you think or have

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intel that he's going before the thirty
second pick in the draft, which is

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the last pick in the first round, I tend to agree with you,

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though I don't see a scenario in
which emptying out the coffers to try to

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get up and get one of these
other quarterbacks is beneficial to a team that

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is not a quarterback away. And
I've been over that repeatedly over the last

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few days, where I'm like,
you know, look at the teams that

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did trade up that were successful,
they're the ones that already had a team

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built. You know. Kansas City
I already had the team built when they

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moved up for Pat Mahomes. The
Niners already had the team built when they

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moved up for Tree last Now,
Lance didn't work out, but perty from

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that draft did. The premise is, you know, when you have a

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team built, generally, that's the
time that you empty because you don't need

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the sense to build a team,
you already built it. How you got

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the quarterback? Right? Yeah?
Well, and that's the key here for

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Denver as well. I mean for
them, they're going to have all of

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their you know, traft capital going
into next year. They're not going to

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be in a situation without a first
or second as of you know right now.

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But I just, you know,
I've seen all these scenarios where if

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you're going to move up from twelve
to four wall, it's gonna include you

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know, slopping with twelve this year. It's also going to include your first

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round next year. Is they to
include your first round the year after that?

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How do you build the team in
this window that Sean Payton has,

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like he's gonna got four years left
on his deal, Well, all of

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a sudden, there's three years that
he's had on his overall contract where he's

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not gonna have a first round pick
to work with. To me, I

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just don't think that is what he's
going to do. And look, you

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guys have a lot more intel on
background. They have a little bit more

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of an idea maybe how some other
teams are fairing or what they're thinking the

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NFL draft that will make them,
you know, make the most informed decision.

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Whether it's to be aggressive and trade
up, whether that's to trade back

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and a quan umble capital really just
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I think that's where the consensus of
the draft conversation, Ben, I

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think it kind of gets lost.
And you think that's where the commentary gets

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divisive. I saw it. You
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this week, which I agree with
you, like mock draft fatigue is really

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sitting it at this point. And
I tell you what I'm over mock draft

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mondays, I'm with you there,
but The reality is is even these these

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big boards, these mock draft simulators, they have their own consensus on who

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they think are the top you know, twenty five, top thirty two players,

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But it may be entirely different on
the Broncos big board into who they

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had one through thirty two. And
you know, I think at the end

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of the day, if the team
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we want them to write. It's
not about what we want them to do,

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It's about what they feel like they
want to do. And obviously they're

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going to make the best informed decision
hopefully, right. I think Bronc those

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countries is waiting to see on that. To me, I think that he's

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got to play. It's smart here
and if you can maintain keeping your capital

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next year and you know, in
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think that's the best move, you
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you look at the free agency list
next year, Ever's got twenty plus dudes

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hitting the open market that you know, your role player, some guys are

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started, or some guys are you
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But they're gonna have some tough decisions
to make next year as well. So

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you know what is the vision for
the team. I'm hoping we got to

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find out when they meet with the
media. Yeah, we got the press

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of tomorrow and that'll be interesting.
I think a lot of people don't expect

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it to them out too much.
But we'll see if theyd on how many

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quarterback questions get asked? All of
them? Yeah, and the question I

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have prepared is not a quarterback question. We'll see if that if that changes

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when we get there. Talking with
Cody Roarkira Mile High Sports, Cody,

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Okay, we've talked about what we
would do. Now let's talk about the

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Denver Broncos. And yes, Sean
Payton does have a history of being aggressive,

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does have a history of moving up
in the draft. George Peyton,

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conversely, as a history of being
a bit more patient, a bit more

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conservative, and a bit more value
minded in terms of how he approaches the

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draft. We saw that, I
think on full display when Nate Hackett was

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the coach and desperately want of Greg
dulsicch and he kind of played the board

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knowing where the value was for Dulsage
to be able to get it for him

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while also multiplying picks. What do
we expect to win out here. Do

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we expect Sean Payton to just you
know, mortgage you everything, go up

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and get some guy, or do
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like what I would consider the voice
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a more state or measured approach.
I think we might see a more state

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of measured approach. I felt like
last year where we saw Denver obviously trading

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up into the end of round two
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that was, hey, we don't
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really good players. And I think
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bit more aggressive last year with the
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have there, with all the circumstances. Consider now they have eight picks this

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year that have flexibility to do a
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there. But I do think we're
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because I think at the end of
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get the quarterback and you feel like
that guy is going to you know,

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not be available at twelve, and
you're going to try to trade up before

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like you run the risk of another
team getting intel of that and trying to

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swoop up ahead of you, which
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teams that could do that. Minnesota
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be able to do that. The
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have seen where they could maybe even
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the back end a round one and
maybe get you know, a quarterback in

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an offensive tackle. I saw you
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social media. Like Denver, they
have to make moves only for what's good

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for them. I know Daniel Jeremia
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He believes that, you know,
a quarterback can come in and have

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success here in Denver, but there's
questions. I mean, then there's gonna

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be a new starting center. We
don't know the long term outlook at the

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left tackle position here with Denver,
with Garrett being in the final year is

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deal, no guaranteed money. And
then on top of that, you know

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you're going to hope that your run
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have a run game, it's not
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And I think that has to be
the emphasis so far this offseason we'll see

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that philosophy changes a little bit.
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I think that's that's sort of the
thing. I believe that what's the best

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way to put this. I know
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a lot of people are projecting to
trade up right now, that's drafting in

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the back third of the first round
that wants an offensive tackle and they're not

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going to be in a position to
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might be considering trading up with the
Denver Broncos. I'll tell who that team

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is the next segment. We'll get
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around for them. The people that
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But I'll say it feels like that
there are gonna be some opportunities to

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move backwards for the Broncos here and
or the Raiders and be able to pick

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guys up. Who are some guys
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select. Let's let's presume a trade
back here. Who are some guys you'd

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like to see the Broncos pick if
they traded back somewhere between you know,

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eighteen and twenty five. Yeah,
that's a great question. I mean so

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much as dependent. You know,
I lean a little bit on I know

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a lot of people have never teken
an edge rusher. They don't know if

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that's the move that you want to
make right now. Denver understandably next year,

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like this is Jonathan Cooper and Baron
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I understand that you have Nick Benito
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I'm more comfortable with the edge rusher
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are. So like for me,
it wouldn't be an ed rusher in my

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opinion, And obviously guys like Dallas
Turner, I think Jared Versus we got

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long gone before you know, Denver
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regard. You know, I've been
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cornerback as well. I know it's
not the popular pick in Broncos country,

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but I think Terry On Arnold's going
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first cornerback off the board. Obviously
quinnyin Mitchell has been getting a lot of

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run as well. Does Denver need
that? I mean, it's obviously Denver

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looking at bringing in some veteran guys
like last week Levi Wallace. A few

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weeks ago they were interested in signing
Christian Fulton. Those fell through a little

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bit for them, and you know
that tells me the heye, they're still

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looking to add any cornerback to the
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And so I bounced between cornerback.
I bounced between that. And then also

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I look at Amarus Mims, obviously
an offensive tackle, and anythink to myself,

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like is this never's best position right
now? And maybe try to get

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a guy and see if he can
be all power anchor there on the left

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side of the art's gonna have this
year. A rookie like Mimes can learn

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from him. Obviously, if Denver's
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year, if that is in fact
the plan, I'd say I bounced between

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those positions. But man, I
just can't help be enamored by the wide

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receiver group here. And look,
I don't think Roll mcdonjay is going to

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be available. If Denver were to
trade back to eighteen. I think he's

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going to be top twelve, top
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But man, but he'd be a
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I mean, that's kind of where
I'm leaning here, Ben. It's

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just there, there's a multitude of
positions that I feel like, you know,

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they can benefit from OVI see,
you know, I think defensive tackle

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is another one we can look at. Obviously with the sweat having the DUI

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over the you know, the past
week, and that could drop his value.

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Sigifficant that I could play out well
for Denver, you know, in

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round number three or maybe even later
if he drops to round four, like

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Denver's got an opportunity to you know, take some chances here. I just

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think that they've got to address it
in the order. I think quarterback's obviously

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the most important. Outside of that, I'm going to go detackle, offensive

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tackle, and then cornerback and receivers
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the quality of that room is necessarily
where you want it, the quantity feels

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like you have enough bodies at this
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But I get where you're coming from
there. It'd be nice to have that

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kind of thing. I go back
and you look at Sean Payton's history and

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you know, he tends to have
one rod receiver that he pays that it's

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you know, that's kind of the
X. And then you know, maybe

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one of the guy on kind of
a mid level deal, maybe two,

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and then the rest of them tend
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would be that would be sort of
fascinating to see. The thing that I

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that most greats on me is because
I do believe the edge rush rotation could

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use a boost. But I'm not
opposed to taking a corner at twelve if

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they feel that he's the guy,
you know, like Quinn and Mitchell at

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twelve doesn't bug me in the least. But I watched the Broncos fan base

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on social media and there's a meltdown. I think everyone forgets. Remember the

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Houston Texans game where Nico Collins almost
had two hundred yards at halftime, and

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you know, I'm and outside of
that towards the in stretch, like the

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Raiders exploded in the passing game against
him in the secondary last year, Like

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you know, I wasn't Fabian Moreau
really sell off after really I think stepping

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up and playing pretty solid, like
he didn't hurt you in anyway in the

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midway part of the season, but
man, at the end of the year,

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he couldn't come up big when the
team needed him to. Now you

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get you know, some guys in
this class with some brains, some really

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good athleticism, and obviously the four
three three speed. To me, I

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think that is a g eight editions, especially when you factor and hey,

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there's no Justin Simmons anymore on the
back end of that secondary, so you

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are going to need your corners to
become big time playmakers. I think the

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one I've been lobbying for Ben,
I've been asking for it, and hopefully

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we get to see this year,
especially with Jim Leonard coming in as a

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passing game coordinator. When press coverage
looks for Pat, I mean, he

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did a lot of that his rookie
season under Vic, and he did it

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under a ger Row, but then
last year we just saw so much off

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ball coverage. I know Pat wants
to get back to playing a little bit

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more man of man to be able
to put some collapse on some dudes.

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But you need another guy opposite the
year that you're confident in. Ken Riley

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Mosster to Maori Mapp has become that. I mean, it's a huge question

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mark right now. You know,
in this year's draft you maybe get a

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guy opposite them that can do that
right away as a rookie. So for

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me, I mean, I'm a
defensive back guy. There might be a

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little bias in me there on that
side, but I mean I'll be okay

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with that move as well. Who's
the one guy you're banging the table for

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for them to come away with in
this draft? For me, I didn't

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have to be somebody there at the
top. Like for me, it's case

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State tight end Vincent. I know
they had extended conversation with him. I'd

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love to see that added to the
room. I think he would be a

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fantastic weapon for this offense and help
build this thing up and give them something

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they were sorely missing. But who's
somebody that you look at this draft you

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say they got to come away with
this guy? Ooh, And a lot

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of the mock draft simulartors I've been
doing, I feel like Mason Smith and

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I think there's a little bit of
a different consensus on maybe where he's going

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to end up. Some people say
it could be you know, late round

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one, maybe a mid round two, like, I don't know where he's

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at, a lot of similarities.
I've been able to get him in round

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three. But Mason Smith, I
think obviously the ties to Jamar Kine from

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his time at LSU. He's a
guy that can play multiple positions, not

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just the end. He can play
inside the A gap. And obviously there's

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a rotation there with Malcolm Roach,
like obviously the guy that brought him this

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week, Andreela Blackson, like they
want to see if they can get somebody

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because Roach isn't going to be an
every down player, but you need to

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get guys that can rotate in and
also still play at a high level inside

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the A and the B gaps to
prevent you from getting gash and maybe even

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a lot more one on one opportunities
for your edge rushers. Mason Smith out

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of LSUE, I think is a
guy that I would like ever try to

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come away with at some point.
Love it love talking to you is always.

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