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Good morning, good morning, good
morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome.

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It's time for our community connection right
here on k The one you trust

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in. Our guest today is incumbent
State Senator Julie Daniels. Welcome to the

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program. How are you doing today, Tom, I'm just fine and enjoying

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this coolish weather weather. Always good
to be here at KWN, good running

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shoes weather. With that campaign going
on and everything. Speaking of the campaign,

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a lot going on at this point
in time, and one of the

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things that has come up is that, my golly, this is a race

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for you. You have an opponent
this time, and the landscape is maybe

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just a little bit different, but
really not all that much. I guess.

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How do you see where you are
and where you're going so far in

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this race? Well, in any
campaign, you have a plan, and

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you work your plan, and you
do that every day and then you move

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to the next twenty four hour cycle. I'm pretty much just knocking doors right

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now now, because during session you
don't have as much of an opportunity to

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do that. But it's interesting yesterday, and this has happened more than once.

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I'm going to the door and talking
about a campaign, but finding a

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constituent with an issue, so you
get out the phone and make a note.

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This person says they overpaid their taxes, this person has a difficulty with

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some unemployment benefits. And I say, okay, after June eighteen, I

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will be giving you a call,
Kathy, and I will my assistant and

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I we'll get working on this.
So you're doing a little campaigning and a

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little constituent work at the same time. But that does show that folks are

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engaged and they know that my office
is responsive and we have enough experience now

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that we can fairly quickly resolve some
issues. And we've built good working relationships

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with people in the building, which
is what you need to do with bureaucracies.

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You need to understand that they have
a job to do and they're implementing

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our laws. But when you hit
a roadblock somehow, maybe it's a misunderstanding,

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maybe it's a mistake, maybe it's
something we need to change. And

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that's certainly the approach my office takes. So it's a little bit of campaign

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and a little bit of helping constituents
at the same time. That's great,

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And speaking of experience, you have
plenty. Tell us a little bit about

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your experience, because there are people
who are moving to Bartlesfield every day.

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Some weren't around the last time you
ran. Well, exactly yesterday, I

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talked to somebody who had just registered
who's moved here from Colorado. I've talked

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this week with people from California,
somebody from Missouri who just moved downtown.

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And they're all coming here with some
either close or tenuous Bartlewilt connection, but

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they're coming because they wanted to leave
where they were and come here because they

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see us as freer, friendlier,
less regulation, more openness, and so

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they're just the kinds of folks that
we want to attract to Oklahoma. And

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it does tell me as an elected
official that we are doing things right.

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Not everything is perfect, but that
by and large, our government is one

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that is responsive to the people,
and protective of freedoms and encouraging of business

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and growing jobs and stronger families and
respecting parental rights, looking to reform education

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and make it better both the public
and private and homeschool side. We're doing

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all those things, and I've had
a role to play in pretty much all

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of those areas. So it is
refreshing to see people who are new but

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yes, so for the folks who
don't know me, I've lived in Bartlesville

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now about thirty five years. Charlie
and I've been married forty six years.

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He's a retired attorney with Phillips.
My boys were worn and raised here,

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went to public school, went to
Saint John some too. I've got a

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son and daughter in law and three
little grandchildren here, and Margo just turned

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one and she's starting to walk and
you can't keep up with her. But

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I had all that experience with nonprofit
sector. I have really good relationships with

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all those organizations in town that do
so much good and make Bartlesville a very

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unique place to live. Those same
as kinds of attitudes exist throughout Senate District

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twenty nine Washington and northern Rogers County. And then I have the eight years

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in the Senate doing a variety of
things. I serve on more major committees

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than anybody else in my caucus because
I asked for more work. So by

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the time you do Judiciary, Education, Finance, Health and Human Services rules,

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and you had a stint both in
business and energy, you have a

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lot of the issues that get you
have some background on, and you have

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a lot of issues that people bring
to you, wanting to improve, wanting

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to run legislation, wanting you to
help with reform. And I enjoy being

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fully engaged in all those things and
learning about new things. So I would

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have to say that I'm very well
rounded in my experience there. I've been

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given some leadership opportunities, and what
that means to Senate District twenty nine is

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that I have maybe a larger voice
at the table when we're deciding what direction

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to take. And I think that's
beneficial to the folks of northeastern Oklahoma,

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particularly the communities in Senate District twenty
nine. For all those reasons and the

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fact that I'm regularly ranked as one
of the most conservative members in the building,

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to the point that when someone says, if somebody says you're not a

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conservative, we all just laugh.
I take that conservative philosophy and my sort

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of practical way of thinking, and
I don't mind what the problem is.

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Let's go talk about it, Let's
learn both sides of the issue, Let's

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bring in all the perspectives, and
then apply a conservative political philosophy to how

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to proceed, whether that's a bill
I'm working on or an issue that we're

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taking a lot of time with,
or just a bill that pops up and

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you need to make a decision how
to vote. One of the things that

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didn't get past in this session.
But many people thought that it was a

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darn good idea because it would start
small and then gradually built, and that

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was to reduce the income tax here
in the state of Oklahoma. You took

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a bold step forward on that,
tell us a little bit about the philosophy

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behind this, and of course there's
still plenty of room for that thing to

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catch fire and go. Certainly a
couple of years ago we were doing some

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piecemeal things at the end of session, rather like the budget process that the

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Senate decided we would fix this year
by making it more transparent. We formed

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a task force to look at tax
reform in Oklahoma. Every state is different.

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There are positive and negatives to hours, but we wanted to look at

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how we could responsibly start to reduce
the income tax with the goal of getting

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to zero, not being able to
say how long that might take and what

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reforms would we need to go along
with that. It was a bit frustrating,

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but we gained a lot of knowledge, a lot of knowledge and In

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the end, the Caucus decided this
year to repeal the state portion of the

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grocery tax. That was not the
direction I would have gone. I do

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not want to tax your labor.
I would like to not tax your labor

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at all, but tax you when
you enter the marketplace, when you consume

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a service or a good, you're
making a choice. Yes, some people

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will say, well, I don't
have a choice to buy brories. That's

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true, but how you expend the
dollars that you have. You're making some

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decisions. So let's leave as much
money in your pocket as possible and only

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tax you to provide the dollars to
run the government when you make those decisions

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to enter the marketplace. That's the
direction I want to go, and I

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still want to go. We did
the grocery tax, and so that could

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affect state revenue to the tune of
about two hundred and seventy million dollars a

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year. So the Senate said,
we're not going to cut anymore this year

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because we want to see how that
impacts revenue in the next fiscal year,

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because we do have to pay for
government. You can have differences of opinion

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of how limited government should be and
every time you expend more money, are

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you growing government or are you paying
teachers more? Are you paying highway patrol

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more? Are those good ways to
expend tax dollars? You can have that

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discussion and always come to differences of
opinion. However, I did author the

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point two five percent reduction in the
personal and come tax a couple of years

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ago. Then that became a pro
tim Speaker bill, so my name was

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not on that, and this year
I agreed with the Speaker to author that

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again, but we changed it so
that it didn't say it would reduce it

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this year. It just had a
formula for how to determine when you could

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reduce it, so we wouldn't continue
to have these fights. So now the

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difference of opinion is what formula is
the best formula? And when you did

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serve during the budget shortfall of twenty
seventeen twenty eighteen, which were my first

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two years in office, there's a
long memory of how difficult that was.

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So there's still people who are a
little bit gun shy about reducing taxes too

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quickly and then finding that you have
to go through and cut all the agencies.

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So yes, I'm still very much
in favor of that. I believe

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we are closer to finding that formula. It would be a conservative one,

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but I've worked with several other people
and we have several ideas. Now we

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just need to educate our caucus and
get people in there who can say this

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isn't dangerous. If certain things don't
happen, the tax won't drop, but

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will make sure that when it does
drop, you can absorb that in terms

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of revenue, and eventually you're going
to grow the economy. You're going to

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have more people paying taxes, more
revenue, so it balances out in the

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end. So that's a long answer
to your question, but is certainly one

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of my goals in the next four
years is to get to that point where

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we have that formula in place and
then it happens automatically when certain conditions are

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present. We're talking with State Senator
Julie Daniels here on our community connection.

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When it comes to education. There
are some lawmakers who are very pro public

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education, there are some that are
very pro homeschool, and there are some

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that are all above. Where do
you come down on the education issue?

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I am definitely all of the above. Each individual child benefits from a certain

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way of delivering education. It's the
parents who should make that decision, and

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they shouldn't be hamstrung by their pocketbook
or the zip code that they live in.

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This is not to take away from
what the public schools overall do.

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Some districts are stronger than others,
Some schools are stronger than other some teachers

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are stronger than other. But that's
also true in the private education section,

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and certainly in homeschooling. That's up
to the parent to provide the quality and

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the kind of instruction they think benefits
their child. So to me, all

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benefit from the variety of choices.
It helps you to make improvements. It's

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the same as in the private sector. The more choices you have, the

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harder every single entity works to provide
a product that more people will want to

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use, and that's certainly what we've
seen in the school choice movement. In

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Oklahoma, we have the greatest protections
for homeschooling of any state in the nation,

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and we do not want to ever
erode those. We have done a

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great job in introducing a opportunity to
scholarship tax credit donate money. The money

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goes to scholarships for kids at different
private schools. We have our Lindsay Nicole

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Henry Special Needs Scholarship for certain populations
of children. I was successful this year

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in allowing homeless families to benefit from
that scholarship because homeless families don't tend to

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file income taxes and therefore get a
credit to use at the school of their

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choice, which is the program we
passed last year. So we've expanded Lindsay

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Nicole Henry to say homeless parents can
benefit from this scholarship. And we have

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one particular school in Oklahoma that does
nothing but cater to homeless families and their

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children. So it's a variety of
things. I believe that our Education Chairman

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Adam Kew is a great reformer and
he wants to do nothing to punish any

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school or school district for an outcome. He wants to measure the outcomes and

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then let's build a program in Oklahoma
that directs resources to those schools that will

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help them prove let's reward improvement.
Let's not punish a bad score, Let's

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see what can we do to get
it up. And that's a new way

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of thinking. I think I'm really
pleased with that, and having been on

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the Education Committee, now for two
years, I'm seeing the benefit of his

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way of thinking. I'm happy to
join him in that effort over these next

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four years. So it's the most
critical thing that we do. I know

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we need to protect freedoms first of
foremost, we need to protect public safety,

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but we need to deliver on education. And when we do that,

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it makes all other aspects of our
society better. One other thing we did

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in education this year we have the
Oklahoma Promise Scholarship. You know, if

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you maintain certain grades, we will
pay your tuition. We had never allowed

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that to be applied to career tech, but we know now that we need

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more kids to go into the trades, and we know that you need a

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good liberal arts education. But if
you know you want to go this direction

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and you're not going to be on
the college tract for now, why shouldn't

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you benefit from that state program if
you choose a technology education. And so

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we've changed that. We have a
backlog of kids wanting to go to career

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tech. We've put some money into
trying to decrease that backlog. So all

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of the above is definitely where I
am Senator to Daniels, this is the

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point where I say it's time to
get on the soapbox and tell us what

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you want everybody to hear. Sure, we've talked about taxes and education.

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I'm firmly committed to reducing government regulation. I've done a lot of work in

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that area. This has to do
with the administrative rules that have the effect

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of laws, but they weren't passed
by the legislature, but we're the ones

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who oversee them and determine whether or
not they can go into effect. Over

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the years of work with the Governor's
office and several of my colleagues, and

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we cleaned up that particular statute to
give more oversight to the legislature. What

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we need to do now is to
make sure we're fully engaged in that.

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So I will continue to work on
that one. I definitely want to do

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more just checking my little protect the
reforms the Republicans put in place fifteen or

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twenty years ago. With term limits, there's not as much institutional knowledge in

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the building about the reforms. And
this had to do with lawsuit reform,

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which has been eroded by our Supreme
Court, workers' compensation reform, which they

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chip away at every session, and
pension reform, which is very misunderstood,

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but critically important to the retirees in
these different pension groups, but also to

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the fiscal health of the state as
it is seen from outside. So all

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those things are kind of not headline
making, but they're very important. I'm

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going to continue to work on those. So let me wrap up by saying

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I would really appreciate your vote on
April eighteen. It is a joy to

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serve you. I believe my office
serves you well. I'm engaged on all

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the issues. I spend a lot
of hours in the building, which I

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consider a large office building, with
lots of employees with different perspectives. They're

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the elected, they're the bureaucrats,
they're the lobbyists. They all work together

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to learn about the issues, and
from them I glean the knowledge I need

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to either advance something or vote for
or against something. And it's an absolute

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privilege to get to do that on
your behalf. So on June the eighteenth,

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please vote for me. Let me
do my last four year term as

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your senator. And if you're not
going to be in town on the eighteenth,

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you can vote Thursday and Friday from
eight to six at the election board

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at City Hall or if you're in
no wa to go to the no Wata

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County Courthouse or the Rogers County Courthouse
and then on Saturday from eight to two.

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But otherwise I will see you at
the polls on election day. If

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you want to get in touch with
me nine one eight three three one seven

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two sixty seven, my website is
danielsokasenate dot com. You can communicate with

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me there or Senator Julie Daniels Facebook. You can message me there and I

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will try my darness here in the
last few days of the campaign to be

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back in touch with you. And
thank you, Thank you Tom, and

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thank you all folks in Senate District
twenty nine for allowing me to represent you

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in the state Senate. Thank you
for being with his Senator Julie Daniels on

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our community connection.

