WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:22.600 Yah, Welcome to dev Statadojo, where we all come together to shed light 2 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:45.759 on the phenomenon known as UFOs and you aps. Hello. This is DJ, 3 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:50.399 the host of Calling All Beings. He came and sat down with me 4 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:55.560 today to talk about why I'm doing a podcast. How are you up? 5 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:59.240 I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt. Yeah, I'm doing great man. 6 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:03.000 Uh, And I'm interested to hear about why you're doing a podcast, although 7 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.079 I think I know the audience needs to know. Okay, well, in 8 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:12.840 part it's because of you, DJ. You have greatly encouraged me. Yes, 9 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:19.879 you well, Thank thank you. Deb No, I mean you've got 10 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:26.640 so much great content, it was obvious, and then of course of the 11 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:33.400 other reason would be there is so much to talk about, never ending content 12 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:38.439 with the phenomenon that is indeed true. I think that it will take me 13 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:42.439 years to get everything out there for people, and I just want to engage 14 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:49.920 people in these conversations and get even more data for Debes data dojo. That's 15 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:56.480 what's up, Maryland's own Deb's data dojo. And you know what I'm interested 16 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:00.079 to hear in twenty twenty two from you, Deb, What's that I'm interested 17 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.560 to hear more? About your hypotheses, and I use that in a in 18 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:14.479 a plural way because they're you're really good at finding out what happened and how 19 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:19.000 maybe how we got here to some degree. But I'm really interested to hear 20 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:27.719 your thoughts about the phenomenon at large, meaning how they came to be or 21 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.719 I'm sort of where you think we're going, whether you you know, like 22 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:38.599 your percentages on extraterrestrial, ultraterrestrial, interdimensional, all these all these forms. 23 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:45.960 Because I'll tell you what, man, I heard Preston Denny or Preston Bennett. 24 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:52.960 What's that gentleman's name that was on Dennett Dennett on UCR man fascinating story 25 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.400 about a navy guy on his ship. Oh my goodness, did you hear 26 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:02.000 that? Yeah? I caught some of that earlier today and and so so 27 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:07.800 actually, DJ, I really am going to try to figure that out this 28 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:15.240 year because I separated out all these different hypotheses and that are now hypotheses and 29 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:22.000 it's singular, man, all right, And I separated there's so many and 30 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:27.479 actually there are ones that we're still uncovering that some people are not as familiar 31 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:32.840 with. For instance, the control mechanism one that ballet seems to really like 32 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:40.240 no talk about that. Okay, So his is that the phenomenon is kind 33 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:46.240 of guiding us, and they're controlling our encounters with them, and they're guiding 34 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:52.719 us towards something. How do you feel about that? Well, I think 35 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.400 that could be a part of something else. But that doesn't really answer for 36 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:03.479 me who is guiding us? So it's not a very satisfactory one. Yeah, 37 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:10.240 but but let's say, immaterial of who what if that? What if 38 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:14.639 that turned out? What do you think of that hypothesis? Immaterial of who 39 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.160 the the the the actor is or the control err is. Well, I 40 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:24.120 think it plays into what people have been saying about the phenomenon doing some tricks 41 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:29.639 on us, doesn't it. Nathan. Nathan's a big proponent of that theory. 42 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:34.399 And it also kind of plays into the phenomenon hides the phenomenon, camouflages 43 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:41.600 the phenomenon pops in and pops out, you know. So there's a possibility 44 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.879 that we are being guided in some way. A lot of people think the 45 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:50.360 phenomenon is trying to guide us away from nuclear usage, right, But again, 46 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.560 it's not very satisfying because it doesn't answer what I want to know. 47 00:04:55.680 --> 00:05:00.720 Oh, it's only what then I go ahead. I want to know who 48 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:05.079 the occupants are. I'm all about occupants, you know. And I have 49 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:12.839 heard from some sources that not all of these crafts are occupied, but of 50 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:17.439 course we have enough information to know that many of them may be. And 51 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.279 I'd like to know more about that, and I will, of course, 52 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:27.160 in the future, address what I think about that more often. Yeah, 53 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.879 I would, actually I would look forward to hearing that. And it's interesting 54 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:40.120 that that you're more interested in who than what or why. You're more interested 55 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:47.199 in who than whether or not there that hypothesis is grounded in any significant truth, 56 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.120 regardless of the fact that certainly Jacques falat is I mean, he's a 57 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:56.920 legend. I mean he's been studying this longer than almost anybody. But why 58 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:02.120 do you think that? Is that that that you want to know who rather 59 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:10.199 than what or if? Okay, so I think part of it is we 60 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:15.120 may not understand why, Like we are always talking about this in human terms, 61 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:23.639 and we may be missing something because we don't understand. I think there's 62 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:29.800 people making claims about the why, and it's interesting, but not as interesting 63 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.800 as who. And once we know who, you know, I might play 64 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.759 into some of that a little bit more. But it's sort of like, 65 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:43.560 you know, if you let me get to a metaphor, if, for 66 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:48.800 instance, an egg is spinning on the floor, right, and you don't 67 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:54.000 know what the egg is, what's going to matter first that it's spinning and 68 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:56.519 you want to know why it's spinning, or that it's an egg and you 69 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:58.959 don't know what that is, Like, I want to know what the egg 70 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:05.040 is first. Does that make sense? Uh? It does it in a 71 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:11.040 way. But I want to actually double back to something that you said a 72 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.720 minute ago. You said, we think about this in human terms. So 73 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.399 my question to you or anybody is are we capable of thinking of it in 74 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:27.639 any other terms? No? But you know what, it's very possible the 75 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:31.560 phenomenon will try to communicate with us in a way that we'll understand at some 76 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:38.720 point. But I think the first step of that is to actually know who 77 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:43.839 that conversation's going to be with. Well, what if they said to us? 78 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.680 So, what if they I'll give you an example of why I think 79 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:55.399 why is important. What if you were visited tonight in your bed and one 80 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:59.680 of them said, oh, we're the centaurions. What's your next question? 81 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:05.680 Going to be Do you want my real answer for that? Dj mm hmm. 82 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:11.480 Can I get on your Oh no, not that part. I want 83 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.800 you to give what the most obvious answers that ninety nine percent of humans would 84 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.759 ask, what you're doing in my house? Yeah, which is another amalgam 85 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.560 of why are you here? Right? Well, I guess so. Do 86 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.199 you see how one follows the other. They could tell you I'm where the 87 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:35.919 reticklians from Zeta reticulae or where what? And by the way, I just 88 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.799 want to throw this out there for everybody when you listen to this story by 89 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.320 Preston Dennett and I did just look it up some get the correct pronunciation of 90 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.080 his name. This is one of the most fantastic abduction stories I've ever heard 91 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:54.759 in my life. Right, take take that for a second. Do you 92 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.120 know where it occurred? Deb I didn't get that far, unfortunately, taught 93 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.639 me. Off the deck of a navy ship. Wow, this guy was 94 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:09.320 abducted off the deck of a navy ship in broad daylight and taking aboard. 95 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.559 Wow. Awake, I mean awake, broad daylight. It's hovering off the 96 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:18.720 port or starboard side of the boat. All right, Holy shit, look 97 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:24.360 at that and then next thing you know, boom, he's aboard the vessel. 98 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.519 And by the way, this was after his bunk mate asked him if 99 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:33.360 he believes in the phenomenon and if he wanted this to happen, because brother 100 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:35.720 man said, it's happened to me a bunch of times. I can arrange 101 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:43.039 this. Wow. And then he had conversations. They showed where they're from, 102 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.639 like on a star map and the whole nine, and by the way, 103 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.440 would you like to go there? And he's like, hell's nah, 104 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.000 put me back. I'm finna be looked at as a wall. It's so 105 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.360 interesting how many people are like, no, I don't want to go to 106 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.720 these places, and I'm like the opposite. I'm like, take me. 107 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.039 You want to invite me to skin walk or ranch, I'm going. You 108 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.639 want to take me to you know, an I'm going. You know, 109 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.399 so we need to holler up at TJ and bring the debs out there. 110 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.799 No, I don't. I don't think they'd enjoy the blurring my face for 111 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.000 the whole video. They're not gonna blow your face. We're just gonna assume 112 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:24.519 that nobody from that your employer will be watching, uh will be watching history 113 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.679 channel on that given night. Yeah, but oh man, I'll tell you 114 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.600 what now, I'm ready to see debs out there because you know what, 115 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.120 I don't know, I might go. I don't know. I'd be as 116 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.960 if like I've been invited, but yeah, yeah, I would be the 117 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.840 person who's out there trying to meditate on a rock and like, you know, 118 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:48.159 they feel like, what are you doing? That's what I'd be doing. 119 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.399 I'll be trying to go out there and meditate on a rock and they'd 120 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:56.600 be like, Okay. So I do think there are risks at the ranch. 121 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.080 I recognize that significant risk. I think that some stuff going on with 122 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:07.080 the em that's damaging. But I'm if I'm invited to go somewhere where there's 123 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.720 a good chance that I'm gonna see u APS, I'm gonna go. You 124 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:18.679 know. That's fair. That's fair. I'm with you. I mean, 125 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.399 I've begin thinking more and more is that if I bring a certain attitude out 126 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:28.039 there that I could be okay, like not an attitude of fear or I'm 127 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.559 looking to attack or even carry a weapon with me, but just just be 128 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.639 out there like hey, you know what's up, you know, like just 129 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:41.039 kind of take a more yogic approach to it, and because they I keep 130 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:46.840 hearing them say over and over what you bring to the ranch will affect what 131 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:48.879 your outcome is there. So I think, well, if I bring positive 132 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.320 energy there, would that result in me leaving with positive energy as opposed to 133 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.960 being scared and you know, all kinds of stuff. So I don't know, 134 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:03.639 easy to say until I see a shadow person. Now, I will 135 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.559 say that one of the rumors that I've heard is that it may not be 136 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:15.159 the phenomenon that's doing some of that work on people, that it could be 137 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:20.840 something trying to keep people off the ranch that's human based. O what. 138 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:28.759 Yeah, that's one of the rumors that it's I don't want to point fingers, 139 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:35.039 but it might be the government trying to get people messed up with yam. 140 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.879 No, it's definitely not it's but that's that's the one of the rumors. 141 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:46.399 But I think, honesty now, one of my gut instincts about it 142 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.120 is that there's something on the ranch that's just trying to keep something protected and 143 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:56.639 keep humans away from it. That's my instinct about it. So I think 144 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:01.480 that I would be okay, but I do wonder about the safety precautions that 145 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.360 they take. I wonder what they're doing to make sure they don't have problems. 146 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.080 You know, I'm burning some sage. I'm gonna be walking around Sage 147 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.919 the whole time, doing some stuff like this, so they might need like, 148 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.080 I mean, I hate to say this, but maybe we should really 149 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.519 look into tinfoil hats. Yeah, I mean, it couldn't hurt, right, 150 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.559 I mean, so, I don't know. I guess I feel like 151 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:31.000 whenever people pose the question would you do this? Would you do this? 152 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.120 Like would you live in a haunted house for a million dollars, I'm all 153 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.679 like, yes, of course I would. Okay, wait a minute, 154 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.360 so this house they said about the conjuring, you're all about going in there 155 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:46.639 hanging out with Annabelle. I would do it. Oh my god. You 156 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.720 know I used to think like you and then let I mean, when I 157 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:54.440 was in England in two thousand and eight, I was dying to go to 158 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.960 a haunted house, like a castle, like in Scotland or something. And 159 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.840 now I'm I'm not so sure about that. So I'm glad though, that 160 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.240 you got that kind of gusto going down so well. I told you in 161 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:13.039 my twenties, I did some ghost hunting. Do you recall me telling you 162 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:20.480 about that. I was the person that was buying equipment and uh, you 163 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.480 know, trying to do it in a scientific way. I had a you 164 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:30.600 know, polaroid camera that I bought just for that that you know, that 165 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:35.200 really surprises me. No kidding, it doesn't surprise me. But but DJ 166 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:41.159 doesn't know me at all. It didn't go very well though, because when 167 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.399 I try to do it in a formal way with a group, the group 168 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.559 was like, we have too many people who are interested because TAPS was really 169 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.200 like a big deal then, you know, and everyone thought everyone was coming 170 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:58.679 in because of TAPS. So that's that TV show on Travel Channel exactly what 171 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:07.000 called I don't recall. I didn't really watch it much, but but I 172 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:13.279 think it was. I think it's called TAPS. Yeah, yeah, I 173 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.720 don't know. Sorry, I don't remember. But but everyone thought it was 174 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:22.919 really cool. So that's why a lot of people joined. And as a 175 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:28.440 result of that, they said, we have too many people coming in, 176 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.519 We're not gonna invite new members right now. So I just kind of let 177 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.799 it go. But I still ran into some haunted places once in a while 178 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:43.720 and had some interesting experiences. I dig it, man, I dig it. 179 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.919 I mean I would, I'd be into it other than the travelers, 180 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:50.639 other than the traveler thing. Oh yeah, them coming home with you. 181 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.320 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to avoid. Man, I don't want to 182 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.000 do some TJ Aler kind of business whatever happened to him. But but no, 183 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.240 so so I are you gonna, you know, talk about like what 184 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:03.720 you're gonna because you know, we got to wrap this up and talk about 185 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.480 what you want to tackle on your show during the course of DEBS Data Dojo, 186 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.480 what you'd be getting up to. I really want to get every voice 187 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.799 that wants to talk about this phenomenon a chance to talk, you know, 188 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:21.799 Like, I see a lot of people who have stories, who are really 189 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:26.399 earnest about this, Especially on UFO Twitter, there are people who are there 190 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:32.600 daily, daily researching, putting out material. And you see a lot of 191 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:37.159 people emerging, you know, from the military. You see people who are 192 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:41.679 you know, into this in so many different categories, and I just want 193 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.679 to get their voices out. I want to get as much information out to 194 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:49.279 the world as we can do. I'm with you, man, I know 195 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:55.000 you're all about sharing. Yeah, and that's that's that's wonderful. You're not 196 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:59.720 trying to hide stuff. You're trying to keep some stuff for everybody knows that. 197 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.160 I'm using Katiani's voice now right. It bothers me when people don't share. 198 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:10.000 It bothers me when it's about writing a book and then keeping the ployos 199 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:14.000 to yourself, Like no, I'm like, now everything out, everything everyone 200 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:18.039 needs to know, make it and then make it palpable for the public so 201 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:22.559 that they can learn too as quickly and easily as they need to. I'm 202 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.920 with you, man, that that is. That's a great thing. I'm 203 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:32.599 glad that you are that you're doing this. I mean, you bring out 204 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.640 lots of information from lots of different sources. You have a voracious appetite for 205 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.079 knowledge and for other people to know. You don't like when people are in 206 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:47.960 the dark and they don't know and they're not making informed opinions on things. 207 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.920 And I really appreciate that. That's a great mission. And you have been 208 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.440 able to connect with so many people. And I don't know exactly what it 209 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:00.039 is. I mean, I know that we like you, I know that 210 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:06.039 we want to talk to you. I don't know exactly what your special sauce 211 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.319 is just like I don't know what McDonald's is, but I think it's like 212 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:12.759 a thousand nine dressing. But you do have a special sauce. Oh I 213 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:18.039 appreciate that, J And you do too. You motivate me. Come on, 214 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.559 come on, I mean you have the Marilyn accent. You know I 215 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:27.680 don't do anything. But anyway, all right, I'll tell you what, 216 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:32.119 man, I'm looking forward to having you and Deb's data dojo on here. 217 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:36.039 I know that you're gonna get some good guests, some researchers. You've been 218 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:40.559 reaching out, and you know, I realized that like remote viewing isn't even 219 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:44.039 a part of the phenomenon, but you've found a bunch of them, and 220 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:48.160 I do hope to talk to them, even though it's kind of not part 221 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:53.440 of the phenomenon, maybe it's tangentially and I'm super interested to get their thoughts 222 00:18:53.519 --> 00:19:00.480 on not how they do it, but by what medium their communication travels to 223 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:07.319 their receiver and back or their transmitter in back. So I'm very interested to 224 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:11.200 act one of them about that. Well. I do think it's part of 225 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:15.160 it. I think there's a connection that has to do with a they're seeing 226 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:22.039 some things that we normal lab persons cannot see, and I think that they're 227 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.839 using it to communicate, and I want to know more about that, of 228 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:33.000 course. Yeah. And I'm wanting to know from a nuts and bolts perspective 229 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:36.559 because now you know, I talked about how you know the theories and so 230 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.720 on and so forth. I want to know from a nuts and bolts perspective 231 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:44.480 how that happens. That's what That's what I'm interested to know. I think 232 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:47.960 that's one of the draws to all of this DJ. There's just so much 233 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:55.240 interesting stuff and you cannot help but notice how many researchers and people associated with 234 00:19:55.319 --> 00:20:00.200 the phenomenon are also connected to remote viewing. It's a lot. Yeah, 235 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.680 yeah, I know you've made that connection. Man. I mean, right 236 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:08.279 now, hell put Off is wondering why I had so much starch in my 237 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:12.519 dinner, and I'm gonna have to answer for that. I don't know it's 238 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:18.440 because Katiyani cooks that way, but all kidding inside, no, there is. 239 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.440 And I think you know what's interesting is is there's something you know we 240 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:26.359 use in the military. Where will you know if you're on a frequency and 241 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.880 you're just on that one frequency, it's easy for somebody to jam that frequency. 242 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:37.880 But in some cases if you frequently hop frequency hop from one to another, 243 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.559 it's hard to jam when you're hopping from one frequency to another during the 244 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:48.440 course of one string of communication. Right, And I think the phenomenon we 245 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:53.279 can also exercise this because while we might be focused on nuts and bolts one 246 00:20:53.640 --> 00:21:00.319 episode or one week, maybe the next episode, we're just theorizing it out 247 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:07.039 what evidence leads us to think of ultraterrestrial, extraterrestrial interdimensional methods, that these 248 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:11.319 things are happening intent that we might infer. So that's what I love about 249 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.759 the phenomenon is that is that you can jump around. So not to do 250 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:22.440 that song jump around. That's what I did, DJA. I can't sit 251 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:26.799 on one thing. I have to follow all the paths. And it's because 252 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:32.039 there's just it is so much. There's so much to it and there's something 253 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:36.559 for everybody, all right, I dig it, man, Debs. I'm 254 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:41.920 looking forward to you be part of the Calling All Beings podcast network, our 255 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:48.680 first franchise e of which we probably should be paying you for no putting your 256 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:52.000 show, but you know it's honor, it's not honored to have you as 257 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:57.200 a member of Calling All Beings and also that you would let us broadcast your 258 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:02.720 content because I think it's going to be great and I think it'll be totally 259 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:06.440 different than what we're doing, but totally cool. And I can't wait for 260 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:11.240 the next Cabby or the next person that also wants to join us and become 261 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.640 part of the family where you know, occasionally they'll appear with us and maybe 262 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:19.160 just have their own show on here and so on and so forth. So 263 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:23.079 thank you so much, Debs. Well, thank you DJ, and thank 264 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:27.039 you for coming and talking to me today. Pleasure is all me Holmes. 265 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:33.119 I knew he was going to drag me into it. To one Holmes, 266 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:36.759 all right, okay, well you have a good night, all right, 267 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:56.880 Thank you Debs, peace, bye bye bye. Thank you to my listeners 268 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:03.680 today, Thank you for joining me as we work on shedding lights on this 269 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:12.119 phenomenon. I can be reached on Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook 270 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:25.920 at study of UAPs. You can also reach me through ufoconnector dot com or 271 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:34.720 through the Calling All Beings YouTube channel. Take care everybody, until next time.