1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,119 The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend No. 2 00:00:10,519 --> 00:00:17,399 Here is your host, d J. Leaves Well. Hello there and welcome 3 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:23,199 into the latest edition of the Big Fighting Weekend preview podcast where we are in 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,800 fact ol on location. It has happened, folks. We have arrived here 5 00:00:28,839 --> 00:00:33,439 inside of the media area next to the T Mobile Arena for the Errolspans Terrence 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,439 Crawford undisputed World Welterweight title fight coming up Saturday night. Look forward to everything 7 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:42,399 that's going to happen with that, and look forward always to being with this 8 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:45,560 man. And for the first time we are in person. Hello, our 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,320 insider from his Fight Freaks you unite, Substack and Big Fight Weekend dot Com. 10 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:52,159 Dan Raphael, Good to see you. It doesn't look any difference. 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,039 You're just not instead up on a screen on next to you. It's true, 12 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:59,759 as we're hearing like in Laval Land of this supposedly air conditioned media tent, 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,960 I will say the things we do for the people to bring them peeps 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,200 and the savages need to understand. Dante's eighth ring inferno hell hot and one 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,359 of my old palace from college used to say, I'm sweating like a crack 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,480 addict. Yeah, well it is, or sweating like a crack defendant at 17 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:19,840 the right before sentencing. But we are here, right in the shadow of 18 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,439 the T Mobile Arena, one hundred and ten degrees plus in Vegas. The 19 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:27,200 good news is though the fights are inside you and I have just come from 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,040 the Aerospans Terrence Crawford press conference. We've got more on that in a few 21 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,359 moments. Anyway, thank you for finding us, as many many of you 22 00:01:34,439 --> 00:01:38,200 continue to do each and every week. Thank you for doing that. Make 23 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:44,519 sure you're following, subscribing Big Fight Weekend dot com and also on any of 24 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,799 the podcast platforms Apple podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, etc. Thank you 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,840 for finding us. Make sure you're following and subscribing, and keep rating us 26 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:57,439 in reviewing us. Now, now we should say you have two more opportunities 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,359 here in the month of July to rate and review us. And if you 28 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,439 do that, take a screenshot of that rating and review. Make sure that 29 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:07,719 you do so, because we've got to give away coming up. We are 30 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,520 here and I got to tell the audience theater of the mine. We're all 31 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,560 around all of these posters and pictures of Spence Crawford, a bunch of cool 32 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,360 stuff, and we're ready to give away a piece of memorabilia, if not 33 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:22,360 a couple of pieces of memorabilia to somebody that in July has rated us, 34 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,759 reviewed us, and sent us verification that you've done that. I got to 35 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,479 review it on Apple. Don't just send thee put it on an Apple. 36 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,360 Put it on Apple. Give us the actual review that peeps, it's not 37 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:35,960 that hard. Give us the review, take a picture of it and send 38 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,000 it in complicating's getting hit in the head like the fighters exactly. So send 39 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,120 it on and we'll draw someone after this weekend, when July is over with 40 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,159 that will win at least one of the items. If not, we have 41 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:49,919 two items of either the program from Spence Crawford and or a fight poster, 42 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:53,319 whichever one it is or maybe both. Stay tuned. That's upcoming, and 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,520 thank you because several dozen of you have participated in the last two or three 44 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,520 weeks, so we're getting through to you people. It help us with the 45 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,080 algorithms to rate and review. With all of that out of the way, 46 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:06,599 we got some special guests. Man. We do coming up in just a 47 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:08,680 little bit. Former two time world welterweight champion Shawn Porter will be here. 48 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:12,120 Enough of me, you're gonna hear Dan talk to him, and I'll join 49 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,479 in a little bit with Showtime Sean Porter here, who, by the way, 50 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:16,479 has a distinction of being in the ring. He's the only guy, 51 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,599 right, am I correct that's been in the ring with both keok kell Brook 52 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,520 in the ring with both. It didn't end well for Kill or for Sean 53 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,280 Porter and either one. But Porter obviously was in there with both of them, 54 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,879 hotly contested in both of them against both Spence and Porter. You'll hear 55 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:35,080 from him, Crawford, you'll hear from him here on the podcast a little 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,080 bit with some analysis. You and I are going to go over the press 57 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,080 conference, uh and much more. We're gonna tell you about our friends at 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,520 PPV dot com and a little bit and how you should be watching this pay 59 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,159 per view. It's a Showtime pay per view through Premiere Boxing Champions. PPV 60 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,159 dot com though, is sponsoring us, so we want you to utilize them. 61 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:52,879 You don't need a subscription. It's just a one off purchase. Great 62 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,560 high definition quality, great interactive stuff. PPV dot com will tell you more 63 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:59,840 about that in a bit. But but we would not be doing the peeps 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,680 a duty a service if we did not recap what we saw a Tuesday in 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Japan. Yes, we'll get to Spence and Crawford why we're here in Vegas, 66 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:11,400 But my goodness has now oh yeah, in a way stopped hitting Stephen 67 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:14,759 Fulton here now that we're later in the week because he hit him a bunch 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,480 on Tuesday in Japan. Stopped him and now is the unified one and twenty 69 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,240 two pound champ to follow up being undisputed at Banamwait your thoughts on what we 70 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,240 saw, Dan Rayphield. My thoughts are that, in a way is a 71 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,680 truly great fighter. I mean, I'm not overstating it, and I don't 72 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,560 want to make Stephen Fulton out to be like he's the next coming of you 73 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,160 know, an all time grade, but he's he was considered by far and 74 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:38,680 away at this moment in time the number one fighter in the division that one 75 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,959 hundred and twenty two pounds, and he came in with pretty good recent resume 76 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:46,920 and a lot of confidence and a bigger size and you know, a lot 77 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:50,160 of versatility in his game and in a good seemed like in a good head 78 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,360 space about going about the business fearless, about going to Japan and he didn't 79 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:57,959 compete. He just didn't compete. I mean, I'm not I'm not trying 80 00:04:57,959 --> 00:04:59,839 to knock him. I mean it just that's the way it goes. He 81 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,800 was in with a as as I said before the fight when I made the 82 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,199 pick for our bet Us show and picked him by the knock picked anyway, 83 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:08,600 by the knock out with the under ten and a. My statement on the 84 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,759 show last Friday was, Stephen Fulton is a very good fighter, and in 85 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,560 a way is a great fighter, and that's what great fighters do to very 86 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,600 good fighters. And that's exactly what happened. In a way is a and 87 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,360 I'm not again, I'm not trying to overstate it. He is a guy 88 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:27,439 who would have competed with anybody in the history of boxing, from the smallest 89 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:30,839 weight classes into the you know eight bannom weights into the you know, junior 90 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,519 featherwights. We'll see his team talked about this week about after a stay at 91 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,240 junior featherweight, about eventually moving up to featherweight. By the way, there 92 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,160 was a reason right rub c Ramirez was on the undercard. That's a guy 93 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,000 that his team talked about fighting in the future for the WBO featherweight title. 94 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:49,600 But his performance against Stephen Fulton was incredibly special. It was tremendous. It 95 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,040 was there's a hand you know. It wasn't a great fight, but it 96 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:56,519 was a great performance. And it makes me think about certain fights where you 97 00:05:56,519 --> 00:06:00,279 see a fight where you think it's gonna be a great matchup going in and 98 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,680 one guy just pummels the other guy takes him completely apart, where you're surprised 99 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,639 and so it's not a great fight, but a great performance. I think 100 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:10,480 about Bernard Hopkins against Philix trinidad Um. I think about unfortunately Winki right against 101 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,439 Philix triniadad Um. I think about Bannie pack Yell against Oscar de la Joya. 102 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,319 I mean, we can go on and on. There's recently Tyson Fury 103 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,680 against Deontay Wilder in the second fight, not the third fight, which was 104 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,560 back and forth. The second fight he pretty much dominated him. There there 105 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,639 are definitely those types of fights where one fighter puts on the kind of performance 106 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:31,600 that is historical in nature, and that's what this was. I mean, 107 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:34,839 And I don't I want to impress on people who if they haven't followed in 108 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,720 a way or they didn't bother to get up at early in the morning East 109 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,639 Coast time to watch the fight. Maybe they haven't, maybe they're gonna go 110 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,000 back and look at it on demand on ESPN Plus. You're seeing a special 111 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:50,319 fighter in his prime, and you should appreciate what you're seeing. He is 112 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:56,759 a bona fide now four division champion, was undisputed at bantamwaight. I know 113 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,480 he's not fighting household names, but he's fighting all the best guys. He's 114 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,160 not ducked in Anyboddy. He would have been another championship if he had bothered 115 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,800 the fight at the flyweight division. But he went from one o eight and 116 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:09,079 went right to one fifteen for his next title, kind of like Manny Pacio 117 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,879 skipped over. You know, his first championship was at one o eight and 118 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:14,319 he skipped over, or I'm sorry, was at one twelve. He didn't 119 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:15,839 fight for titles at one fifteen or one eighteen. He went right to one 120 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,759 twenty two and he won the title at that way class. So in a 121 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:21,879 way, his spectacular fighter. He's exciting. He's got a big, big 122 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:25,519 profile in Japan. He's the biggest star. He's making eight figures of fight 123 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:27,879 and people say, why did he come to the United States well, because 124 00:07:27,879 --> 00:07:30,800 he's making massive money there and selling crowds out, and it doesn't need to 125 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,000 He's as famous as it gets over there, and he wouldn't make as much 126 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,639 money probably fighting in the United States anymore as he would in Japan. But 127 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:41,120 also let me just say this about him. He's gonna fight Marlin to Polis 128 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:44,680 in probably December, from what Top Rank tells me. They mentioned November on 129 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,120 the broadcast to Paulus has the other two belts who we won from Akmandalia. 130 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:50,079 He was in the ring after the fight. His team is going over the 131 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:51,560 fight. In a way, once a fight, there's not gonna be any 132 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,319 problems. I don't believe making that match. They'll get it on a December 133 00:07:55,519 --> 00:07:58,120 and in a way will pummel to Polace within an inch of his life. 134 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:01,560 He'll be undisputed at featherweight junior featherweight, and if Crawford wins on Saturday, 135 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,680 he'll be the first mailboxer to be undiscuted in two weight classes. If Anyway 136 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,519 does that in December, he'll be the second. But if Crawford loses, 137 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,600 in a way would become the first. If he wins, and then he 138 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,120 mentioned his team they'd do a post on Wednesday. After day after the fight, 139 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:18,079 they did a press country and they spoke about their future to Polace in 140 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,040 the end of the year. They're talking about other fights in that weight class, 141 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,439 Luise Neary, which would be a good fight. Also when they mentioned 142 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,800 John Riale Casimearo, and then they talked about you know, and maybe not 143 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:31,039 necessarily the next fight, but in the not too distant future featherweight and roll 144 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:33,720 base her Maris to win a title and a fifth weight class. You're seeing 145 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,799 a historical figure do his thing at his best and enjoy it right now. 146 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,720 I promise we're gonna get to Spencon Crawford and the reason why we're here in 147 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:45,840 a couple of moments. But this is worth while. You cannot say enough. 148 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,639 I don't think about the punching power in both hands and going to the 149 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,639 body and setting it up. And Stephen Fulton just didn't have answers and he 150 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,559 and again he's a talented fighter, a good fighter, but he didn't have 151 00:08:56,639 --> 00:09:01,639 answers and that was impressive to watch. So I don't know, I don't 152 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,480 know who who's gonna line up quickly. I know Tapola is gonna get paid 153 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,720 a bunch. But who's gonna line up quickly right now to fight, you 154 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:11,240 know, off of what we saw the other night Casimarow and Neary and those 155 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:16,600 another way, mighty one who legitimately has a chance to beat him at one 156 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,679 twenty two the next fight or to nobody. So that's I mean, that's 157 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,200 unless he got injured, there's some crazy thing happens. I mean, you 158 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,360 never know. Let me just tell you right now, he is now in 159 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,320 a way and again, look at the record, he's beating a lot of 160 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,840 champions unifications, etc. Twenty one straight championship fight wins, twenty one I 161 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:35,480 believe he's twenty and oh now with eighteen knockouts twenty No, it's I believe 162 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,279 it's twenty one eighteen. But that's a remarkable championship record. I mean, 163 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,399 you know, that's that's as good of a record as guys you know who 164 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,799 who are haven't even fought for titles. That tells you how long he's been 165 00:09:45,879 --> 00:09:48,759 fighting for titles because he was a guy that was didn't need a lot of 166 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,320 seasoning when he came in for the professionals. Okay, so good stuff on 167 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:54,200 that. So now let's get to the reason why we're here again. We're 168 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,799 doing this Friday afternoon. I'm all messed up on the time zones. You 169 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:01,200 and i've had adventure getting here. You've from your home in northern Virginia, 170 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,480 meet from west central Florida. It didn't get here badly. I didn't have 171 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,879 adventure, but I mean my adventure has been several fold. Number one, 172 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,559 get any here, get set up, get whatever. And then my phone 173 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,279 stops working, which you would say is a benefit because then I'm not bothering 174 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,000 you. True, my wife say that's say that's a benefit. I'm not 175 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:20,480 bothering her. I finally got the phone to the Verizon store got it working, 176 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:26,519 so we're all good on that. We got here on Thursday midday. 177 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,799 I'm sorry on Wednesday, but we got here Thursday midday to the media center 178 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,000 and for the press conference. That's where we are today. You're gonna hear 179 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:37,279 from Sean Porter, who we talked to in a little bit. But now 180 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,960 let you and I go over the press conferences that we've seen. And you've 181 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,559 been at a bunch of these, and I've been at a few of them, 182 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,159 and I've been at a ton of press conferences for all sports boxing a 183 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:48,679 few, You've been to hundreds. So they get it inside the Team Obile 184 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,799 arena where the way in will take place on Friday. The fight will take 185 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,360 place on Saturday. Give the fans a little bit of your impressions of what 186 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,200 you saw. It was more lively out in the crowd. I thought for 187 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,559 a couple of moments this might might be an undercard fight between the entourages Crawford 188 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,559 and Spence. It's never cool when the trainers yap at each other. I 189 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,919 mean, you know, I understand they're excited, they're involved. I mean, 190 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:13,919 they're a big part of this, but you know the way that Brian 191 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,480 McIntyre, Terrence Crawford's trainer, and Derek James Errol's trainer. And I've known 192 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:20,840 both those men for many, many years. They're both good guys and they're 193 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,559 both great trainers. But I just didn't like how they went back and forth 194 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:26,919 to each other's very uncalled for some of the language that they used and some 195 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:28,080 of the things they said. They're not going to be the ones taking punches 196 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,919 on Saturday. So I don't really like that at all. And then you 197 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,519 had like the peanut gallery. I guess he had people from the Errol Spence 198 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,320 family and friends, cousins, buddies, whatever, you know who. They 199 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,440 reserved the first couple of rows for I thought it was a press conference, 200 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,399 but I guess not for everybody because they had not pressed. But there was 201 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:46,000 a lot of hoot and hollerand back and forth between them and between Crawford and 202 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,559 vice versa with Crawford's team and Spence, but the difference was Errol pretty much 203 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:52,840 let her roll off his back and didn't really respond or say anything. But 204 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:54,559 at the end of the press cofference, you could tell he was starting to 205 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,639 get to Crawford because he opened his mouth and said some bad words we won't 206 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,000 say on the part. Yeah, you know me, I have no problems 207 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,759 saying a couple of mfs and fuck that fucked us on the press covers, 208 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:05,080 on our on our on our podcast, but I'm not going to use the 209 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,840 language that that uh Terre Scrawford used, and I'll just say it starts with 210 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,360 an end. Uh. I didn't appreciate that either, and some other pretty 211 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,279 and he said it over and over again, which I thought was sort of 212 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,440 repetitive and redundant and sort of irritating. But other than that, moment, 213 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:22,279 those few seconds, the ones that kept it uh respectful and and and all 214 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,799 we're we're we're the fighters were the two the two guys. The families were 215 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:30,559 going at each other, the trainers are going at each other. And Crawford 216 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,399 and Crawford may have had words with people and Errol's team, but Errol and 217 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:35,600 Crawford, I mean, they had a couple of things at the press covers. 218 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,440 You're trying to put on a show, I guess, but they showed 219 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,080 that their profession, you know, showed their professionalism. And look, they're 220 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,879 ready to go. That's all I can say. They are ready to fucking 221 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,000 bite. Can compare it in recent memory? All right? What about the 222 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Jervonte Davis, uh Ryan Garcia or we can we can even go back because 223 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,200 it wasn't really bad blood, I don't think in that one. What about 224 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,039 Mayweather Packia you covered Dad in the same city. It's been like seven or 225 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:03,919 eight years. You know what's funny about that? Did it? Was there 226 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:07,120 anything like that in that when where they were arguing with each other? That 227 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,559 press conference must have sucked so bad. I don't even remember the press conference. 228 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,159 It was that whole week was was corporate. It was only about the 229 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,879 payday for everybody, right, So, I mean I remember things about covering 230 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:22,960 that event. As I've said numerous times, of all the hundreds of events 231 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,559 I have covered, that's the worst event I have ever covered. Not the 232 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,639 fight itself, which wasn't great, but just the event. It was a 233 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,559 miserable experience being here in Las Vegas for the entire week. I understand that. 234 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:37,639 As far as this one goes, yeah, it was a good, 235 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,799 lively press conference. I mean it should definitely stoke a little bit of interest 236 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,200 if you're watching it on the on you know, the clips they'll show on 237 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,639 YouTube or on whatever social media, or if it gets on Sports Center or 238 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:52,159 whatever. I'm curious how much ESPN will pay attention to this. ESPN the 239 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,759 networks, because again, you work for them for a long time. I'm 240 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:58,759 not I'm not bashing them just to bash them, but largely, if it's 241 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,639 not top rank show, they don't pay a lot of attention to it. 242 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,559 Not entirely true. They covered the DeVante tank fight, Mudge against Ryan Grton, 243 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:09,600 They had people out here. I'm gonna okay, listen, everybody knows, 244 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:13,120 you know didn't renew my contract. I know I have a lot of 245 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,440 friends at that company, and I have a lot of great memories, a 246 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,159 lot of people I love there. But not everything is perfect. There's a 247 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:20,759 lot of things I could say that are not great about ESPN, but I 248 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:22,559 will not cut them down because they did cover that fight the way that my 249 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:26,360 best ray Field can I finish where I was going. And then they are 250 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:28,080 not covering this fight the way it should be coming. Thank you, Because 251 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,240 we were here Wednesday, they're not here live, and there's others not here 252 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,240 live. Fox Sports is not here live, CBS Sports dot Com will actually 253 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:37,639 show times a division of all of that, and they're here live covering it. 254 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:43,000 But when Thursday now, they're not here live covering it. And that's 255 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,159 back twenty thirty years ago. I know it's a different time. That's unthinkable. 256 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,480 Even if they weren't showing the fight or whatever, they were all to 257 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:50,440 see an example. Yeah, this is what we used to do. When 258 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,840 I was working at ESPN. We would not only cover the fight. I 259 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,919 mean I would cover it for the dot com, but I have I made 260 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,080 hundreds of appearances on Sports Center and other talk shows for fights that aren't even 261 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:01,720 in the stuff. I'll give you an example. Like I was out here 262 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,720 for a whole you know, from like Tuesday on probably with my man Brian 263 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:09,879 Kenny, and they brought in and hired as a guest analyst to work with 264 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,759 us. Marvin Hagler and I worked a couple of days the story, yes, 265 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:18,720 and we covered Winky Wright Bernard Hopkins, and that was an important fight 266 00:15:18,759 --> 00:15:22,080 between two great fighters that ESPN had nothing to do with a fight. And 267 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,919 it wasn't like a blockbuster that everybody wanted to fight. It was just a 268 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,679 good matchup with you know, two top guys. And this is way bigger 269 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:31,559 than that fight. And they're not covering now that. Look, everybody's got 270 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:35,559 to make their own editorial decisions. You know what, people will listen more 271 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,519 to our podcasts and all the other excellent podcasts that go on from here and 272 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:41,399 other coverage. You know, they don't need a network to cover the fighting 273 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,639 anymore to let people know about it. That's true, you know, listen. 274 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,879 I mean I find this out in my own existence. I don't I 275 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:50,440 don't have to deal with the USA today anymore or ESPN. I have my 276 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:54,559 own business on nice substack, and the people they want to read the real 277 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,279 deal, they can come and read my material. Some of it's you know, 278 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,840 they pay a sub fee for the extra stuff, and uh, they 279 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,159 pay me directly, and I hustle my ass off and I appreciate that. 280 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:07,759 But I'm making the point larger that you don't need a monolithic, gigantic corporation 281 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:11,879 to cover your event to still make a dent in American society. It would 282 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,879 be better if ESPN covered the fight in a real way, But at the 283 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,519 end of the day, they have to make their decisions. Or Fox Sports 284 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:21,840 or CNN pick. But I'm but I'm picking on ESPN because they're number one, 285 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:25,840 right right, And it bear in mind that again when it was Devin 286 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:30,240 Hainey and Lomachenko, they were going NonStop all week. That got a facility. 287 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Here's the it's their product. That's the point, no doubt about it. 288 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:34,440 And anyway, but on the press conference, so as a whole, 289 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,879 like, I would just say this, if you watch the press conference to 290 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,559 half an hour or so that it went for, you have to leave that 291 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:45,600 that that press conference being a little more stoked for the fight than you were 292 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,759 before, whatever your level of excitement was before the fight. I mean one 293 00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:52,840 comment I did think and I saw this when we spoke to us afterwards, 294 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:56,480 Crawford looks fresh as daisy, like the weight cuts no big deal. He 295 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,039 looks like he's ready to go. Errol is looking a little sudden can in 296 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,400 the eyes, talk a little slower, a little slower in his gait. 297 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:08,119 He's suffering right now to make forty seven. And he did say that to 298 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,279 us in the when he came to talk to us after the press conference, 299 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,960 that he would if there if there is a rematch, Just so people understand, 300 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,720 there's a rematch clause. The loser gets to invoke the rematch clause. 301 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:22,119 I mean, this is not a once in a lifetime opportunity to see this 302 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,640 fight as an undisputed wealth red fight, probably because if there is a rematch 303 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,000 motion inside joke on the podcast, weightside joke on the podcast. But what 304 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:33,039 I was gonna say though, So the loser has the option to involge a 305 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:37,960 rematch clause. But from what Errol said, the winner gets to dictate what 306 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,119 the weight is for the fight. So Errol's position was if I win, 307 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,640 which he plans to do, and if Crawford says, give me the rematch, 308 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,119 he said it will be at one hundred fifty four pounds. Now maybe 309 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,160 that will change, but that's what he said as of uh, you know, 310 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:52,279 after the news conference. Interesting, this is why we had also and 311 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:55,359 they did the coin flip. That was ther thing. Okay, so yeah, 312 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,799 we should mention this, and we took some pictures of it and put 313 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:00,200 it on social media, and you did it as well. I got a 314 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,279 little video, but I couldn't see him very well. I am disappointed in 315 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,319 you. These are rare occasions. I thought you were gonna break who was 316 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,480 flipping the coin. I kept waiting. I did my update that it was 317 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:11,880 gonna be Selene Dion or it was going it was going to be one of 318 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,200 the fast. I'm so busy with other shit that I understand. I never 319 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,839 even bothered playing a phone call. Let's give credit where it's due. They 320 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,599 pull out Iron Mike. They pull out Mike Tyson to do the coin floor. 321 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,440 They said, I asked somebody about that. They said, if we're 322 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,960 gonna have somebody flip the coin, we need somebody who was undisputed. And 323 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,119 Mike lives lives here and uh spends a lot of time here in Last Man 324 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,039 if he lives here anymore full time, but he spends a lot of time 325 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:37,559 here. Um, and uh, he's still a guy that's ubiquitous, had 326 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:40,839 the big fights, and he's ubiquitous is a great words. He's uh, 327 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,119 I gotta listen. I got nothing my love for Tyson, so he's my 328 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,920 guy. But he did a shitty job with that. Okay, So he 329 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,279 comes out to toss the coin and he even knew it was gonna probably be 330 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:51,440 easy. And I don't know because I've not seen a replay. Did it 331 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,559 actually flip or did he more drop it? Pretty sure flip. But the 332 00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:59,640 bottom line is Terrence Crawford won it. He called heads. He won it, 333 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,200 and I guess they're leaving it a mystery because it's his choice. The 334 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,880 way they explained it that the winner the toss would either get to walk first 335 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,799 to the ring and be introduced second, or walk second to the ring but 336 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,200 be introduced first. I would assume, but it's only an assumption that he's 337 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:21,920 going to come to the ring seconds. That was why they did the coin 338 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,599 toss when you know, as the way Spence explained it, and he talked 339 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,160 to us about this also when he came off the stage after the press conference, 340 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,079 he figured he's the a side the fight's called Spence, Crawford, he 341 00:19:32,079 --> 00:19:34,319 should have that privilege, so to make them one of the bones of a 342 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:37,480 contention in the negotiation that he just wanted to get the fight done. And 343 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,519 he said it was actually Crawford's idea, let's flip a coin, and Arrow 344 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:44,759 said, okay. And so if Crawford wanted to flip the coin for the 345 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:47,920 right to see who walk second, obviously he's gonna pick to walk. I 346 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,160 mean to me, whatever, if he picked a walk first, that'd be 347 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,920 a bigger upset than anything happens in the fight. All right, So now 348 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,599 we'll see what he chooses. But we were not told what it is. 349 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,400 We'll find out way. I'll tell you what tomorrow. When Crawford came off 350 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,759 the stage and also spoke to us for a few minutes, I asked him, 351 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:03,240 I said, so, Terrence, which is it gonna be. You're 352 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,279 gonna walk first, You're gonna walk a second. And it kind of gave 353 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:07,319 me that that very scary look, and he was like, what did you 354 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:07,960 hear me say it? At the press card? It's they're not gonna tell 355 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,880 us, not tomorrow. So soon did you hear what I said? He 356 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,000 would got a little Mouthee with me. I wasn't gonnaunch him. I don't 357 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,440 want to ruin a fight. Oh I say, you were gonna take him 358 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,319 on? I say, okay. So there's enough about the press conference again. 359 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:22,880 You and I will make fight predictions first plug for the bet Us Boxing 360 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,920 Show Live. Do I say at first ten Pacific one eastrin because we're on 361 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Pacific time. We'll be on bet Us TV's platforms on Friday, ten Pacific 362 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,279 one Eastern time. We'll make fight predictions about the fight. Stand by for 363 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,480 that part tomorrow. Better than just you and me, Why don't we bring 364 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:42,599 somebody else into the conversation right now from here at the radio row inside of 365 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,079 the media area, right next to the T Mobile Arena. Let's get to 366 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:52,319 that conversation right now. We're in the arrow Spence Terrence Crawford Media Center. 367 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,279 It's a little loud in the tent behind the T Mobile Arena. I'm joined 368 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:00,279 with my first in person media in my long time partner TJ Areas. That's 369 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:03,240 a big deal, but more of a big deal, no no offense, 370 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:06,839 TJ. More big done here with the former two time welterweight world champion Sean 371 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,319 Porter, who was here with a lot of knowledge about this fight because you 372 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,039 fought both guys. And we'll get to that in just a minute. I 373 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:15,000 wanted to start off say thank you for doing this. How have you been 374 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,720 joying your with You're like, you're you're mister personality over this meeting room talking 375 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,240 everybody. Yeah, no, I love it. Um. I do definitely 376 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:26,519 believe that I live in my purpose daily and one of the purposes I didn't 377 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:30,440 realize I would have is trying to help push boxing forward and make it more 378 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:34,319 more lively than ever. Yeah, that's what I'm doing that. So before 379 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:37,640 we get into all the details on the fight, I'm actually curious because you 380 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,799 look like you're in great shape, maybe not fighting shape, but in good 381 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:44,640 shape. How how has retirement been for you? I mean you you called 382 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,200 it a day after the Crawford fight. You haven't looked back. It doesn't 383 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,279 see it now now. I don't want to intend to either. I like 384 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,640 to say the next time you see me in the boxing ring, and it'll 385 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,440 be in a movie. And I am definitely working on that right now. 386 00:21:56,519 --> 00:22:02,279 So I mean everything from the industry getting into that, which was a goal 387 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:06,920 of mine. I was to when I was about eighteen nineteen years old, 388 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,279 all the way down to the suit line that I'm launching this week. I 389 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:15,440 mean, and everything in between, broadcasting the podcast, doing some other things, 390 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:22,720 motivational speaking, creating a life coaching certification, while life coaching program, 391 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:25,680 I mean a whole nine. I'm doing a lie. Yeah. Well, 392 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,839 we have our fans. I listen to our big Fight Weekend and Fight Feach 393 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,440 to Night podcast. But we gotta give you up your props. I'm the 394 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,519 very popular The Porterway podcast. You said the next time you'll be in the 395 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:37,240 ring is gonna be maybe when you're in a movie. I actually thought to 396 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:38,839 myself, you know, Sean's a kind of guy can see maybe trying to 397 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,480 be a trainer, and you got so much knowledge and you have such an 398 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:45,880 enthusiasm for the sport. Has being coming a trainer at any point? And 399 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,599 your father was your trainer, so you certainly know that in terms of the 400 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,400 family. Has that ever come to your mind? Yeah? No, I 401 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,799 am definitely a teacher. I have a heart to help, and I think 402 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,720 that that's where being a coach starts, from having the ability to teach and 403 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,680 then so having that that that passion to help. Um, I actually am 404 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,200 grateful that no one has approached me yet to train because I really don't have 405 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,880 the time for it. So um, I do anticipate that coming one day, 406 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,200 but not not too much sooner than than some of the other things I'm 407 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,319 doing. All right, So now we got this fight and that's why we're 408 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:21,960 all here. Spence against Crawford for my money, the best fight in boxing. 409 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,759 Uh. It may not be the biggest fight in terms of the money, 410 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:27,119 it's gonna be hard pressed to pass by what Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis 411 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,480 did, but certainly from a significant standpoint as a former welterweight champion in a 412 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:34,279 division where you you're in that great group of guys with Crawford, with Spence, 413 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:37,400 with Keith Thurman, with Danny Garcia, with a lot of tremendous fighters 414 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:41,680 kell Brook in that time frame, how excited are you just as a as 415 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,720 a former champion in this weight class who's fought some of these guys, to 416 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,640 see there finally be an undisputed champ for the first time in a long time. 417 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:53,640 I'm I'm more interested in these guys opposed to the belts. Um to 418 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:59,200 me, that's secondary, maybe even third and nary if that's the word um. 419 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,720 I just think that the epitome of what these fighters are gonna do on 420 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,160 fighting night is even bigger and better than what Tank and Ryan Dye. Obviously, 421 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,079 we saw how that fight unfolded. Most of us who know boxing knew 422 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,160 expected it to go the way that it went. But this one you can't. 423 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,559 You can't truly predict this fight and have a comfortable, confident prediction about 424 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,000 how this fight as gonna go. I think that that's what makes this fight 425 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,480 is special. I hate for anyone to miss it. Nine. Obviously, 426 00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:29,720 everybody knows that they followed the sport. They know that Sean Porter fought against 427 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,000 Roll Spence, had a great fight, a unification fight, a close fight, 428 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:34,599 dropped in the eleventh round. You want to split decision. It was 429 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,680 a very close, competitive fight. A couple of years later, you had 430 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,240 to fight with Terren Strafford, also competitive, stopped doing the tenth when your 431 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,759 dad threw in the towel. So you've you've got that experience of being in 432 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,680 with with these guys at their best in the big time, championship level fights, 433 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,400 both on pay per view. When you look at this match or from 434 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,960 your standpoint as a guy that faced both men, real real easily question easy 435 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:03,359 questioners. Who do you think is better from what you experienced that well? 436 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,079 I answered this is you just gotta understand that I thought erro Spence in twenty 437 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,480 nineteen he's a better fighter now than he was when we fought a lot of 438 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:15,079 experiences and the biggest experience outside of the ring made him better in the ring. 439 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,359 It is what it is. But overall, I just think that we 440 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:23,559 you can see that Terence has this tenacity, this hunger, and also this 441 00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:29,319 skill, talent, and and and he just has these assets that make him 442 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,079 hard to bet against. You know, I think the tough and rugged erro 443 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,680 Spence is what makes us feel like, Yo, this is definitely fifth and 444 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:37,960 fifty. Both guys are that great, all right. So I want to 445 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,000 know if you, if you could examine and think about both of the guys 446 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:45,200 you fought and what they break, give me if you could one thing from 447 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:49,680 each guy that they do better than the other guy that in the contrast of 448 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:56,599 styles, it's just so beautiful because Terence is a master at the at dictating 449 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,079 that the range and the distance the fight. I've never been in there ring 450 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,680 with someone where I just it was invisible for me at points in the fight, 451 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,720 and then there were points in the fight where it was there and then 452 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:11,000 I could see it just instantly go away, and It's like I'm an explosive 453 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:18,200 fighter and I just cannot can't find it and to capitalize on that. Rrol 454 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,319 spence. He likes the crowd, he likes to be in your space, 455 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,680 he likes to dictate the pace, and I just think that, man, 456 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:27,319 that's what makes this so beautiful because you got one guy who knows how to 457 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,759 change that range and that distance so seamlessly, and then another guy who just 458 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:34,960 doesn't care where it's that. I'm gonna make it where I want it to 459 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,759 be, you know. So those I think that that's what they do the 460 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,559 best. So there were definitely moments in both fights where you had your where 461 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,240 you had your moments. Yeah, again, you know, obviously against Arrol 462 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,160 being that was so close, and even with Crawford, there was definitely competitive 463 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,079 rounds and that sort of thing. So knowing that you may have had not 464 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,119 I would say you had them in trouble, but you know you had their 465 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,880 attention. Yeah, who who do you Who's got the bigger balls when if 466 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,039 it comes down to that in the fight. Yeah, I really don't think 467 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,279 you can measure it. It has to be measured against one another. I 468 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:10,759 saw Terrence, and I've always been the bully in the rain, and kid 469 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,160 was like trying to bully me, you know what I mean. It takes 470 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,400 balls and trying to bully the bully, you know, and then we arrow. 471 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,119 I mean, look where he did against Look where he did against you 472 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,519 didn't zugas you know, one round he goes down the net or almost goes 473 00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:27,039 down. The next round ear muffs on, I'm coming after you, and 474 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,359 there's nothing you can do about it. I mean, it takes balls to 475 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,359 make that kind of decision and stand after it, stand behind it, round 476 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,599 after round until you get your result. All right, My mants got a 477 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,119 question for it also. Okay, so this is no different than most of 478 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,680 our podcasts where Raphael talks like eighty percent of the time. So thank you 479 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,640 for doing this and thank you for waiting through all of them. I'm not 480 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,119 gonna allow you to just paint that picture like that. And he tried to 481 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,880 bring you, he tried to get you the mike. He said, no, 482 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,640 no, I don't want it, not yet. But my role is 483 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,640 like fluff the caddy Back in the day with Tiger Woods, I heard my 484 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:03,160 man the driver away. I know my role and I rip it and rip 485 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,799 it. Yesse does so. I just want to know you've been in this 486 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,440 moment with both of them. With Errol it was at the Staples Center, 487 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,240 the Terrence, it was here in Vegas, maybe a little smaller venue for 488 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,920 the fans. What is that moment like when the introductions have happened, the 489 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,359 final instruction from the referee has happened, and the bell is about the ring, 490 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,640 because you experience it with both of them, what is that moment like 491 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,599 in the rain, It's like the calm before the storm that when that bell 492 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,000 rings, it's like you have to be so focused on train, what you 493 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,960 train for, and what you're expecting to see and all these mental things. 494 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:44,279 But the lead up between that is to walk out and all those things. 495 00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,319 I truly do not think that. I think everyone's going to feel the same 496 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,559 energy that they're filling in the ring. They won't sit down for the first 497 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,440 thirty seconds in this fight. I think the whole crowd is going to be 498 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,720 standing when this five starts, all the way up until about thirty seconds. 499 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,079 If it's a slow thirty seconds, and everybody was thought that kind of you 500 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,839 know, you've seen that before when they kind of slowly, very slowly sit 501 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,039 down, but something big happens in the first round, everybody's right back up. 502 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,359 I always have this image from a fight I covered many years ago, 503 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:14,799 when Felix turn to that fount where Cardo might organ at Madison Square Garden and 504 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,240 they hit that first bell and every single person in the stand and stood up. 505 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,079 It was incredible, And I think you're right it might be something similar 506 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,319 to that given the anticipation. What I wondered is one of the things I 507 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,759 was trying to think about is like the what are the things that maybe they're 508 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,079 not super bad? And so when I think about Crawford, one thing always 509 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,839 springs to my mind because he does everything so well. He's a slow starter. 510 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,440 There's no doubt about that. I wonder if you think there's that that's 511 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,519 something that Spence can exploit. Yeah, I think that's something that he can 512 00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,319 exploit. I think the other side of that too, is you gotta we 513 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:47,079 do have to understand that these fighters watch and listen, and Terence has been 514 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,119 hearing that he's just slow starter for a long time. And I think that 515 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,319 it will be be a big mistake for him to think that he can come 516 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:56,079 in here and do it like he always does it. I don't expect him 517 00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,480 too. But we have also heard him say to the media that he he's 518 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,079 just gonna be himself, thinking that's a great decision, be yourself. But 519 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,319 he cannot afford the star slow. I don't think he's going to the other. 520 00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:08,720 Thing about Crawford, and and anybody that fights him is aware of this. 521 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,799 I'm sure you know he's listed as a right handed fighter, but he 522 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,400 fights southball so much of the time, and he's very good at both of 523 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,480 them. He switches whenever he wants. How much of a problem do you 524 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,480 think that could be for Spenster. I didn't know he was listed as a 525 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,880 as a right handed fighter because the majority of his fights he fights south Paul. 526 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:27,880 I think that, um, I think it would be in his best 527 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,480 interest to switch and fight from both ways. It's not a hard transition for 528 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,039 the opposite. When you know what you're doing in that ring, you see 529 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,079 one one foot move, you know what's happening, and you mentally you know 530 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,559 what to do, and so I don't think from that standpoint. I don't 531 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:49,680 think it's gonna do a lot in terms of how Arrow performs, but what 532 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:53,759 it will do is open up different raw create other openings for a Terrence, 533 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,880 So they think it to be good for him to do that. That's very 534 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,440 funny you're talking about looking at the fee because I've watched a lot of fights, 535 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,559 and I don't I spend I do not a lot of time, but 536 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,319 I always made sure to look at the feet of the fighter, particularly if 537 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,960 it's a lefty verse a righty, because you can tell who's gonna get that 538 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,799 leverage to get that outside foot. Yeah. So when it comes to the 539 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,720 power that both these men possessed, you've been hit by both of these guys. 540 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:19,160 Who is the better puncher? I think both guys. It's all about 541 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:26,000 the delivery, you know. Um Spence is very very strong, has a 542 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,119 has a straight, very conventional boxing style, and uh and the way that 543 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,880 he delivers those punches, he delivers them beautifully. The other side of that 544 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,000 is is Terrence has that whipping right hand, that whipping hook, his punches 545 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,279 like a whip. I mean, the power is is deceptive because of his 546 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,160 body's structure, you know. But I mean Honestly, I think that we're 547 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,640 looking at two fighters who have top rated power, power that I can't tell 548 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,119 you about because you don't feel in until the next day, you know. 549 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,839 But the other side of that is both these guys they have they have the 550 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,079 ability to deliver some serious power and hurt one another. All right, we'll 551 00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,680 more from you to TJ. So the last one than I have is forty 552 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:13,000 two years ago Leonard and Hearns that you're gonna say I was born No, 553 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,519 No, if you're younger than that, aren't you? You know I'm older 554 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:20,480 than that. Ray fiels older than that too, by the way. Uh 555 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,960 And then day Lo Joya and Trinidad and now most recently Mayweather Pacie Owl though 556 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,039 that one was probably past the expiration data when it should have happened. Yeah, 557 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 is this fight going to be remembered? And maybe there'll be a second 558 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,319 one? We know that, But is this fight gonna be remembered like we're 559 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:42,079 remembering Leonard Hearns forty years ago, like we're remembering day Lo Joya Trinidad almost 560 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,680 twenty years ago? Do you believe this will be a legacy fight that we 561 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:51,000 remember. These fighters have the ability to end the ring performance such and I 562 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,559 think also outside of the ring, they have created such a stir and such 563 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:02,240 so much animosity towards one another, and in this respectful yet disrespectful way that 564 00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:07,720 I think people are appreciating it entirely. I'm hoping that everybody watches this one. 565 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,759 It will live up to the building. I hope those two. I 566 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,200 don't necessarily agree with you about the animosity. I think they have a deep 567 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,279 respect for each other. But that's that's a different story. You know. 568 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,400 I can't end the interview. I'm sure you've been asked this, probably by 569 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,799 every interview you have done. I'm gonna try to pin you down and see 570 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:22,240 if I can do it. Gets you on the ropes a little bit. 571 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,880 Who's your pick? I don't gotta pick, alight, I can't. I 572 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,920 can't force it out of you. No, you can't. I mean, 573 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,839 who's your pick? I honestly, I gotta. I gotta do a betting 574 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,599 show on Friday, and I have to make the pick because I gotta to 575 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,079 do this show with my man TJ. Because I haven't actually made my official 576 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:39,160 pick. What I've been doing, I've been I'll tell you this, though, 577 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,839 I go back and forth for a long time, I kept thinking Crawford, 578 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,039 Crawford, and now I kind of got that pangs of a veryl Spence. 579 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,720 I had a conversation with our good pal Larry Merchant the other night before 580 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,279 I flew out here. He says he's rolling with Spence by a knockout. 581 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,039 So I don't know what to do. But by the way, he always 582 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,920 goes back and forth on the fifty fifty fights, and whoever he picks, 583 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,720 he blames me that he had to be pinned down, So I will get 584 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,839 the lame with whoever he picks if it doesn't work out, all right, 585 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,160 So Porter's got no pick. He got no pick. Man. I think 586 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,119 that this this is gonna be amazing. Why you can't predate? You go 587 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,119 there, Sharan Porter, Sean, thank you very much for running us. 588 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:16,199 We appreciate it. Good to see you again. Uniquely qualified having been in 589 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,880 the ring with both Errol Spans and Terrence Quawford. Great to see showtime. 590 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,920 Sean pulled her out here with us in the media center, giving us some 591 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,960 great outledge there on. Shan has always been a great, great talker, 592 00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:31,199 He's got good insight. You obviously fought both guys and Sean's always been a 593 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,760 fighter. I think that throughout his career, was always respectful to the fans, 594 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,920 always respectful to the press, and is a very likable guy. And 595 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,280 uh I joked with him, I said, you know, you'll still look 596 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,719 like you're in fighting, you know, maybe not fighting shape, but like 597 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,800 he's kept himself in good shape since his retirement. But as he said, 598 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,599 he's done. You know, he talked about all the things he's doing as 599 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,000 good hard but I was intrigued when I asked him out. You know, 600 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,960 I could see being a trainer someday and he didn't dule that out down the 601 00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:57,760 road. You know, he's doing a few things now, but at some 602 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,760 point I do think we're going to see Sean Porter in the corner training fighters. 603 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,239 I'm not his agent. He's really good though on TV, really good 604 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,760 with the media, and that continues to grow for him as well, and 605 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,519 good for him. And you try to get a prediction out of him that 606 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:12,079 isn't happening, but I tried it will bet you did make the effort there 607 00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:15,639 on that Our conversation does continue in a moment. First, something again for 608 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,840 our friends at ticket Smarter. If you are looking to be in Vegas this 609 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,239 Saturday night. For Spence and Crawford looking to attend, then we recommend that 610 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,679 you go for your tickets on the secondary market with Ticketsmarter, ticketsmart dot com 611 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,480 and the Ticketsmarter mobile app. Why because they have the most competitive prices on 612 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:39,199 the secondary market. 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And remember our promo code is fight twenty three. 627 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,920 Okay, So the undercard for this and again we will make fight predictions all 628 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:43,679 second mentioned the bet Us Boxing Show ten Pacific one Eastern time on Friday, 629 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:52,519 Esa Cruise in Action with Giovanni Caprera in the lightweight WBC. Clarify for me 630 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,519 is that w BA and WC lightweight eliminate eliminator for both. He had both 631 00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:00,599 belts there get belts weren't for that, that's where his belts. He has 632 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,920 different belts. This is a This is a eliminator for the you know, 633 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,679 for a fight for their titles, to have an opportunity to fight in the 634 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,400 and the lightweight titles may be about to be vacated by Devin Haying, so 635 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,079 we'll see stay tuned. So that is the co feature and then just before 636 00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:16,199 that, forty year old no Nito don Air will go once again for the 637 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,079 WBC bannomweight title that he's held previously twice, uh Naoya in a way taking 638 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,559 it off of him both times, and uh he will fight Santiago. They 639 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,840 exchange some words on this on this undercard of Spence Crawf for your thoughts on 640 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,079 the undercard quick, I think it's a good undercard actually. I mean, 641 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:38,400 first of all, the first fight between uh jus Teez the young Cuban fighters 642 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,639 like what five and oh I guess, but he's taken on a real guy 643 00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:43,960 in Sergio Garcia. Now Garcia, remember was supposed to have a different fighting 644 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,639 and than there were some injuries that a rearrange the undercard when Hazers Ramos was 645 00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:51,280 injured. But it's an awesome opportunity for Teas to do his thing and show 646 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,440 people who he is. He's again a guy with not a lot of experience 647 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,840 as a pro, but coming from that great amateur program. They're moving him 648 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,519 quick. If you're if you're in your six pro fight and you're fighting Sergio 649 00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:01,800 Garcia, you know they must think something highly because Garcia is no bum. 650 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:06,440 You know, he's lost to the some of the better guys like Fandor for 651 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:09,719 example, but he's he's solid so that's a that's a solid opening fight. 652 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,119 Uh, the Donair fight. Obviously he's gonna have a chance to make history 653 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,960 against Santiago as a young fighter, Mexican fighter, hungry. Um, but 654 00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:21,000 he can't. I mean, I know he got knocked out by Donair, 655 00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:23,079 I mean by rather by in a way in the rematch a little over a 656 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:27,000 year ago in the second round, and but it was in a way. 657 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,840 Now he's finding Santiago difference, big difference. Big. As they say, 658 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,719 there are levels, so the levels forty and he always wonder about how that's 659 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,280 gonna but he seemed in good spirits, seems in good shape. Uh, 660 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,800 Santiago has never shown any special sort of quality in his past fights. I 661 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,000 mean, now I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, but he's he's just 662 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,119 a regular, you know, quality professional, but not a championship level guy, 663 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:50,400 it seems to me. So if No No Needo has anything left, 664 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,159 he should will become a four time bantamweight champion. He will once again if 665 00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:58,159 he wins, break his own record for the second time of becoming the oldest 666 00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:00,159 fighter to win a bantamweight title. And as he said on the podcast interview 667 00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:06,079 that we had with him prior to the fight being moved from the showtime card 668 00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:07,239 a couple of weeks ago this card to win again when the injuries started to 669 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,920 reshape things a little bit. He talked about wanting to break Bernard Hopkins his 670 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,280 record for the oldest fighter Everton to win a WORLDIEU, which would mean another 671 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,519 eight years on the an air because he's you know, he's forty years old 672 00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:20,000 now. Now. Grant that Bernard was several years older when he turned pro, 673 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,639 Nonido was a much younger fighter, but uh, look, it's a 674 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,559 great opportunity for him, and I'm not gonna lie. I've been a big 675 00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,199 Nonedo do a fan, no Needo Don't Air fan for many many years. 676 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,039 I know him well and his family. He's a great, great fighter, 677 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,440 hall of famer, and I believe if he wins the fight, he loses 678 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,599 the fight, he's a Hall of Famer regardless, But it will just show 679 00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:44,440 you, uh the kind of uh just another like added bonus for the great 680 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,440 career that this man has had. And obviously if if if the upset happens 681 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,480 and Santiago is the winner, you know you put a name like you know, 682 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:54,119 Nonto don't Air on your on your resume. Okay, how old he 683 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,079 is, that's still impressive. So I think that's gonna be an interesting fight. 684 00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:01,360 And hey, and again, it's some point when you're forty through thirty 685 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,519 nine, you're forty one or one. Remember, by the way, he's 686 00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:08,719 still making one hundred eighteen after spending several years campaigning. At twenty two and 687 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,760 twenty seen, he's already the oldest Bannom weight champion ever at thirty eight, 688 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,320 So he's bidding to break his own record on that. But the only thing 689 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,119 I'm saying I don't wish for this is sooner or later. You can't do 690 00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:20,119 it the way you used to. You're not as fast as you used to. 691 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,199 It's a young man's game. We'll see, Manny Packy, I'll fought 692 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,480 on at a high level forty one, forty two, forty three. You've 693 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,760 mentioned Bernard Hopkins an fifties that have continued to do it, So we'll see 694 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,320 if don't air can and then one more time you You interviewed Esa Cruz a 695 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,079 few weeks ago for this podcast. Now that fights almost here, he very 696 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,360 much. He talked like three times about Davonte Davis, almost like this is 697 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:42,800 an afterthought. That he's gonna beat Cobra. I don't think it's an afterthought, 698 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,679 but I do think that the reason why he's in this co feature, 699 00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:49,840 among other reasons, is because I believe that PBC views him as the likely 700 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,719 opponent for Dank Davis in a rematch. When tanken Evialy comes back, you 701 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,039 know, he just got out of jail after the you know, six weeks 702 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,000 or so we spent, but he'll be back this fall. One would assume 703 00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:00,519 to make an a big paid ay and do another pay per view event. 704 00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:04,280 And look, that first fight between him and Cruise had to leave some questions. 705 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,360 A lot of people thought the Cruiser was the winner. Tank has obviously 706 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,360 gone on and scored big wins since then, including obviously the one against Ryan 707 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,480 Garcia earlier this year. But I would have no problem if he does that 708 00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:15,280 rematch. I mean, I mean, if I could pick, I'd rather 709 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,360 see him fight Devin any or you know one of the bigger names. Uh, 710 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,400 you know, go to one forty and fight some of the guys up 711 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,880 there, fight Vellasi, the Celey, Lomachenko, whatever. But if you're 712 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,559 gonna stay within the PBC universe, that seems like a very reasonable fight to 713 00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,639 me, and uh, he's in with an undefeated fighter in Carebrera. One 714 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:35,760 thing I noticed that was sort of surprising was how much taller Cabrera was in 715 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,800 Isaac Cruiz in Estoc I should say is much. He's got about four or 716 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,840 five inches. It seems like I'm the guy. He was better dressed too. 717 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,760 He almost looked like Martin Cabrera spoke. Cabrera's got a lot of confidence 718 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,639 going on, That's all I can say. And you know he's never lost, 719 00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,599 but he also hasn't fought top guys. And we'll see. I do 720 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,880 like his you know, you gotta like the enthusiasm. That is the cool 721 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:04,079 feature fight that is coming up on Saturday night for the Spence Crawford pay per 722 00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,119 view. Why don't we find out some more about how you can view this. 723 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,000 We are privilege that we will be inside the T Mobile Arena, you 724 00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:15,559 and I. Let's find out how we can watch more of this from one 725 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:21,079 of our sponsors right now. And as mentioned, we are anticipating heavily Errol 726 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,159 Spence and Terence Crawford coming Saturday night Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. And if 727 00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:29,559 you're going to watch this undisputed world welterweight title fight. There is one way 728 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,320 and one way only that we recommend that you do that, and that's with 729 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,440 our friends at PPV dot com and right now with us to elaborate on that 730 00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:39,360 and tell us a little bit more is Mark Bocardi. Mark is the senior 731 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,840 vice president of Programming and Marketing for in Demand and PPV dot Com. But 732 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,880 I get all of that right, I think I might have Mark. How 733 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,639 are we feeling on the verge of this Spence Crawford showdown? Well, I'm 734 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:54,840 feeling great. You got all that right. First of all, that's a 735 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,599 mouthful for name and Idle a great job with that, and yeah, equally 736 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,000 as excited. We're thrilled with this fight. It's going to be a huge 737 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:07,880 fight, record breaking, legacy making you throw all the adjectives into the mix, 738 00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,320 and that's what this fight. It is going to be, no doubt, 739 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,559 And we've been waiting several years, not just a year or two, 740 00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,760 but several years for it to finally happen. And we're here in Vegas. 741 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,559 We are in eager anticipation of getting to be around it and be in the 742 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,039 team mobile arena. But let's bring it back to why you're here. If 743 00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:29,639 you're not able to physically be where Mark and I are right now in Las 744 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,079 Vegas, we want them to watch it on PPV dot com. And you 745 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:37,159 guys have been growing and growing with the interest and the public and the fans 746 00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:40,880 gravitating two PPV dot com. And there's a couple of big things that we 747 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,679 keep talking about. Number One, you don't need a long term commitment in 748 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,360 terms of a subscription for six months or a year. If you're just looking 749 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,920 to buy the Spence Quawford fight and only the Spence Quawford Fight, all you 750 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,280 gotta do is go to PPV dot com and subscribe. That's one of the 751 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,719 big points about this that we want to emphasize, right Yeah, absolutely, 752 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,800 listen, TJ. You're doing a great job for me. That's really one 753 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,760 of our biggest selling points, if not our biggest selling point is there's no 754 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,000 long term commitment, no subscription, nothing else you have to worry about. 755 00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,960 Just come to the site, you buy what events you want, you don't 756 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,760 buy, and you move on. So that's a really appealing way in today's 757 00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:21,880 marketplace where people have so many different subscriptions to services, it's a great easy 758 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,760 way to just buy what you want. Yeah, no doubt. My hands 759 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,840 up and a lot of people's hands are up on trying to keep it all 760 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,000 straight. And again I can testify to the audience again on behalf of what 761 00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:36,760 you do having utilize your service for the recent Jervante Davis, Ryan Garcia fighter 762 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,639 for Canello, when he fought earlier this year in May against John Ryder, 763 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,639 and on and on. It's an interactive experience. It's a high definition product, 764 00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:49,960 but it's an interactive experience as well. Mark it is, Yeah, 765 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,519 and it's been a really great way for us to introduce a new way to 766 00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:57,559 watch boxing and that that is a much more community type feel. So you 767 00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:00,760 watch an event on PPV dot com and you have the option, do you 768 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,639 want to chat with other fans? Do you want to chat with experts? 769 00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:08,880 We have journalists, boxers, retired boxers, you know, industry observers. 770 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,519 We have other people who join the chat. So it's a great sort of 771 00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,440 community way for people to watch. But as with everything, we give people 772 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,960 the option. If you just wanted big full screen on your big screen TV, 773 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,400 go for it. You can do that, but we do have some 774 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,559 of these other options, so it's a little bit of a more unique viewing 775 00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:29,239 experience. Now there's no doubt about that. And again, this is going 776 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,320 to be a tremendous pay per view card that is coming up on Saturday night, 777 00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:36,960 and we want them to order through PPV dot com. This is a 778 00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:40,800 streamless, a seamless, a really streaming experience that they're going to have. 779 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,320 It is simple to order and to be able to get just elaborate, it's 780 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,920 always going to take you a couple of minutes to get signed up through PPV 781 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,679 dot com and be able to see the entire four fight pay per view with 782 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,480 the main event Spence Crawford. Yeah, that's exactly right. If PPV dot 783 00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,440 com, it's very simple process, as I said, to sign up for 784 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,079 an account. It's free, It takes maybe ten seconds. You're in and 785 00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:07,679 then you buy what you want and you go buy Spence Crawford. That's that's 786 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,519 what we want people do. We think it's gonna be a great night, 787 00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:14,119 and we think it's gonna be a great experience onpb dot com. And you 788 00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,119 know, I for one can't wait for what happens in the ring on this 789 00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:20,360 one. Let's pick up on that very point because so much as being made 790 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,039 and I know you love the history of the sport like I do. That 791 00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,920 this is in the I'm not saying it is. I keep saying this. 792 00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,880 I'm not saying it is Sugar, Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns, all right, 793 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,280 but it belongs maybe in the conversation in terms of significance. We'll know 794 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,000 that years from now, Oscar dal Lajoya and Felix Trinidad fought for the world 795 00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:42,599 welterweight title in this town in the late nineties. So here we are again 796 00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:45,519 in twenty twenty three. Do you believe that we will be talking about this 797 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:51,199 fight historically significance significant a few years from now, ten years from now? 798 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,519 What do you believe about this one? Mark? I think there's a very 799 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:58,480 high likelihood that we will for several reasons. And by the way, you're 800 00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,639 not the first person I've heard mentioned some of those other fights as comps for 801 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,559 this one. So I think that feeling is, you know, permeating boxing 802 00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:08,199 circles. I mean, listen, you look at just some of the easy 803 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:14,119 facts and figures undefeated fighters, primes of their career, bound for the Hall 804 00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:16,800 of Fame. Neither has ever been knocked down, by the way, right 805 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,119 and how many knockouts do they each have combined? Right? Dozens? I 806 00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:24,079 mean, you just have all the ingredients for a really, really great night. 807 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,480 And one of the special things about this fight too, TJ, that 808 00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,559 I look at this really is about what's going to happen in the ring. 809 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:35,679 So many other fights that we cover and we love and are exciting, it's 810 00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,480 about the build up. It's about the drawing between the fighters beforehand. So 811 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,599 a little bit of that in the press conference, but that's not really been 812 00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,760 the style of either of these guys. What's so special about this is what's 813 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,159 going to happen in the ring. That's what I think everyone's really excited about. 814 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,599 So tying it back to your original question, Yeah, I think this 815 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,960 is one where we're gonna be talking about this years from now. Love it 816 00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:01,039 and again one more time, if they are king to watch this fight, 817 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,039 they need to do it with PPV dot Com. Tell them one more time 818 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,840 why they need to be utilizing your service come Saturday night for Spence Crawford. 819 00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:15,079 Yeah, so very easy to come to the site, no obligation, no 820 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:19,360 subscription, easy to sign up for a free account, choose what you want. 821 00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,800 By it, you're gonna have a great experience watching it, and you're 822 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,440 gonna be really satisfied with the product. And I think we're all going to 823 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,079 be satisfied with this fight. Mark Boocarti, we look forward to all of 824 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,239 it. Thank you for all that you're doing helping us along the way here 825 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,239 on Big Fight Weekend, the podcast and on Big Fight Weekend dot Com. 826 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,679 Let's hope this is a great one. Thank you for the time here where 827 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,880 the fight's almost here. We can't wait. Thank you, Mark, can't 828 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,800 wait. Thank you TJ. So there we go, take part PPV dot 829 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,719 Com one more time. We thank them for sponsoring us here as part of 830 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,039 the Big Fight we Can Preview podcast and also on Bigfight Weekend dot Com. 831 00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:55,400 Stay engaged with all of the site as well, and we enjoy having Mark 832 00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:00,679 Boocarti on here with us. Okay, before we are done here from the 833 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,760 media center right next to the Team Mobile arena and getting ready for Spence Crawford 834 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,920 on Saturday night. A little nostalgia, it wouldn't be a podcast. I 835 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,440 know we got a big week, but we see, let's just pull the 836 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,480 curtain back a little bit, or the tent in this case back a little 837 00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,199 bit. You said to me, do we need to do nostalgia? And 838 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,480 I said it would not be a Reef Raphael Reeves podcast without the nostalgia. 839 00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:27,599 And you immediately came up with Zoo Chavez and Julio Caesar Chavez Senior, the 840 00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,719 Hall of Famer his final championship fight. Yeah, I mean I knew that 841 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,719 because I had pulled out the poster and put it in my notebook a couple 842 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,519 of days ago. But yeah, uh, it's gonna be what ye twenty 843 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:43,559 three years ago on Saturday. So another summer fight that took place in a 844 00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,559 very hot location because it was in Phoenix, where chav is obviously a Mexican 845 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:52,800 fighter fighting Russian from Australia, was not the hometown favorite. You know. 846 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:55,000 At the time, it was kind of like people like just said they should 847 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,079 all over the fight because he had been beaten by Oscar Deloi in the rematch. 848 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,440 He had retired on the stool in their welterweight title fight. He had 849 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,880 not fought at one hundred and forty pounds. He had like three or four 850 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,559 other he had four other fights after that loss. He beat three stiffs and 851 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,480 lost to a stiff and was three and one and yet somehow, the WBC 852 00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:17,679 made him the mandatory challenger at one hundred forty pounds. As I wrote trying 853 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,599 to be nice, that was a position that he was given as the mandatory 854 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,719 more out of the heart than the head, right, But he was the 855 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,880 Mexican fighter, and at the time, Jose Sulaman was the president of the 856 00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:32,679 WBC obviously had a very close relationship with Chavez, and let's just call it 857 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,360 what it was. He was given his guy the opportunity when Chavs, you 858 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,559 know, was happy to have it, and Kasazu wasn't too unhappy about it 859 00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:42,360 because he got a chance to fight an icon and make a big pig pay 860 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,280 day. I was on showtime also, and it was chavs his final world 861 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,880 title fight. He fought about five more times after that, but that was 862 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,840 the last time he had an opportunity to fight for a title, and it 863 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,840 was I remember watching it, you know, at the time it happened, 864 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:58,360 it was kind of sad because here's this old man that was a shell of 865 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,480 the great fighter that he had been. Whatever he had left. Oscar took 866 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,880 the rest out of him when he when he beat him up in this in 867 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,159 the rematch and made him stop. He retired on the stool and uh kasa 868 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,119 Zou and knock him down in round six, had one every round and then 869 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,719 finally in the final flurry he was beating the living shit out of him and 870 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,679 the referee stopped the fighting. That was the end of the story. And 871 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,360 that was a long time ago, and but it brought to the clothes you 872 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,679 know, at the high stage. Anyway, Chavis, like I said, 873 00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:28,239 he did fight a few more times, including a famous fight that was where 874 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,400 he fought on the same cart as his sons Chavez Junior, which was a 875 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,679 big hyped up thing at the time. But in terms of at the top 876 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,159 level of championship boxing, that was all she wrote for Chavez. And that 877 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,679 was twenty three years ago on Saturday, July twenty ninth of two thousand. 878 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,480 By the way, Kassazou, you know it maybe not maybe not necessarily number 879 00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:49,599 one, but he's in the conversation for the top one hundred forty pounders of 880 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:53,360 all time kind of Hall of famer as a should be there absolutely And now 881 00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:58,280 July twenty ninth of twenty twenty three, we are ready for two. Are 882 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,199 going to be back here for twenty three years, having nostaledge about this fight. 883 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:04,719 Are you assuming that I'm gonna put up with you and you're gonna put 884 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,960 up with me for twenty three more years? What I was thinking? I 885 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:08,599 don't know what the under over is, but I was just working on twenty 886 00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:14,239 twenty four for next year, So twenty three years from now, there may 887 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,440 be some serious nostalgia about this fight. We went. We didn't have back 888 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,960 back these times, the fights. We didn't have podcast back twenty three years. 889 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,840 Oh, we did not. So therealy had the Internet. That's correct. 890 00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:24,880 The Internet was barely going on. There was no social media. It 891 00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:29,760 isn't an interesting time to look. I still read newspapers. People barely had 892 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,679 cell phones. A lot of people didn't have cell phones still in two thousand, 893 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,639 believe they're not. Newspapers still existed. There's a lot of different things. 894 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,159 I think I got my first cellphone in like two thousand, and I 895 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,119 know I would think I was still I was still at USA today, So 896 00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:42,400 I must have got my first cell phone in like oh three or oh four. 897 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:45,239 I got mine, I believe in ninety nine or two thousand, right 898 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,280 around this time, but most people did not have them, and there was 899 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,400 no Netflix. There was no Amazon, believe it or not. In two 900 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,880 thousand and there was no Zone. It has been a while. It has 901 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,559 been a while, all right. So with that we have given you a 902 00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:59,000 bunch of people. We remind you again the bet Us Boxing Show will be 903 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,000 coming your way live on Friday, depending on when you're hearing us now, 904 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,840 we release overnight Thursday. In a Friday live Friday ten Pacific, one Eastern. 905 00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,039 You will see us and hear us on the bet Us Boxing Show handicap 906 00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:15,000 Spence and Crawford and make some picks. Rayfield is already cavetching. I'll put 907 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:16,760 that word out there. Good work, because you're going I don't know who 908 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,800 to pick. I don't know. I mean, I'm listening, here's the 909 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,400 bottle. I understand that when people are gonna listen to this, but I 910 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,760 got I know, I got to make my pick by ten. Ampathis exactly 911 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,599 well. I actually got to do it earlier because we got to let our 912 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,000 people meet pick the graphics. But I honestly have not made my pick yet. 913 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,159 But haven't that good of a fight that we're going back and forth on 914 00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:37,119 who's going to win it. So we will make the picks on the bet 915 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:39,320 I was five and you were. You're on a heater right now, if 916 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,639 you will. So we're looking forward to seeing what's gonna happen with this one. 917 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,079 We'll we'll preview it more and handicap it on the bet US Boxing Show 918 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:51,679 live on their platforms, YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, et cetera, ten 919 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,480 Pacific time. And then after all of this is over, whoever's hand is 920 00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:00,519 raised, whoever is undisputed, and whatever happens in the team arena for this 921 00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:04,239 fight and the underfil draw. You were saying to me in the press conference. 922 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,639 You were mumbling, and I didn't know because you typically don't mumble to 923 00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:07,400 yourself, but you were mumbling to yourself, and I said, what are 924 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,760 you talking about? And you said, draw. You said this could be 925 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,280 a draw. I think you really could. You may pick a draw. 926 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,920 Stay tuned on the bet US Boxing Show. That could have don think I'll 927 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,800 actually do that, but it lends itself to the possibility. I think the 928 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,559 draw the draw prop was I think I saw it before, something like plus 929 00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:27,480 four hundred and plus five hundred. You get like five to one odds on 930 00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:30,639 a draw because it's that much of at we'll see in any event, whatever 931 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,360 happens. When it's done, we're gonna be back with a fight for each 932 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,000 to night recap off the weekend on this very podcast feed as we come your 933 00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:40,760 way from Vegas. We'll be in there to witness it at the T Mobile 934 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,280 Arena, and we're gonna talk all about it and the undercard and everything that 935 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,920 goes on after it is over. In the meantime, make sure you're following. 936 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,320 Make sure you're subscribing here as part of the Big Fight Weekend podcast feed, 937 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,960 Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Spotify. One more reminder to make sure 938 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,639 to rate us and review us. Take a screenshot of it. We're gonna 939 00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:01,000 draw us somebody to win an item from this fight, either a fight poster 940 00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:05,599 Spence Crawford, a fight program, maybe both. We might draw two people. 941 00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:09,199 Stay tuned for that. So that is coming off the weekend when everything 942 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,920 is done for the month of July. Take a picture that reading interview, 943 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,320 send it in. We'll draw somebody at random with that. Here we Here 944 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,039 we go, Here we go. The next time I talk to you on 945 00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:22,440 this podcast feed, we'll know who win. We'll know who won Spence and 946 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,880 Crawford. So we're looking forward to everything that's gonna go on, Dan Raphael, 947 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,679 thank you as always, we appreciate it. Go get some rest. 948 00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:31,280 I don't need a rest. I'm gonna do the same thing after being hello, 949 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,159 immedia. Let's not some air, I know, some ventilation. Would 950 00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:38,960 you rather be outside where we could be a walk with vegetables. I'd rather 951 00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:43,079 be in like the ab ballroom at the MGM. I understand, but we're 952 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,079 making it work. Here we go. Let's just be on. It is 953 00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,599 our first world problem, the guys these are, but we got it done. 954 00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:51,079 My thanks also in yours as well to Sean Horter, the former two 955 00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:53,880 time world multiway champ. It was with US Parkball Party as well PPB dot 956 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:59,079 com, with us watch the fight through PPB dot com and with all of 957 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,159 our sponsors as well. With that, we are good for Dan Raphael On 958 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,719 t J Reeves enjoy SPAN's Quawford, We're back with the Fight. Freaks Unite 959 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,280 recap on this podcast feed when it's done. For now, you've been listening 960 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:15,199 to the Big Fight. We can't preview by look not to talk out of 961 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,360 school, but I've been driven about seventy four thousand kilometers more than myodometer is 962 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,000 showing. 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