The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend No.
Here is your host, d J. Leaves Well. Hello there and welcome
into the latest edition of the Big Fighting Weekend preview podcast where we are in
fact ol on location. It has happened, folks. We have arrived here
inside of the media area next to the T Mobile Arena for the Errolspans Terrence
Crawford undisputed World Welterweight title fight coming up Saturday night. Look forward to everything
that's going to happen with that, and look forward always to being with this
man. And for the first time we are in person. Hello, our
insider from his Fight Freaks you unite, Substack and Big Fight Weekend dot Com.
Dan Raphael, Good to see you. It doesn't look any difference.
You're just not instead up on a screen on next to you. It's true,
as we're hearing like in Laval Land of this supposedly air conditioned media tent,
I will say the things we do for the people to bring them peeps
and the savages need to understand. Dante's eighth ring inferno hell hot and one
of my old palace from college used to say, I'm sweating like a crack
addict. Yeah, well it is, or sweating like a crack defendant at
the right before sentencing. But we are here, right in the shadow of
the T Mobile Arena, one hundred and ten degrees plus in Vegas. The
good news is though the fights are inside you and I have just come from
the Aerospans Terrence Crawford press conference. We've got more on that in a few
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around all of these posters and pictures of Spence Crawford, a bunch of cool
stuff, and we're ready to give away a piece of memorabilia, if not
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algorithms to rate and review. With all of that out of the way,
we got some special guests. Man. We do coming up in just a
little bit. Former two time world welterweight champion Shawn Porter will be here.
Enough of me, you're gonna hear Dan talk to him, and I'll join
in a little bit with Showtime Sean Porter here, who, by the way,
has a distinction of being in the ring. He's the only guy,
right, am I correct that's been in the ring with both keok kell Brook
in the ring with both. It didn't end well for Kill or for Sean
Porter and either one. But Porter obviously was in there with both of them,
hotly contested in both of them against both Spence and Porter. You'll hear
from him, Crawford, you'll hear from him here on the podcast a little
bit with some analysis. You and I are going to go over the press
conference, uh and much more. We're gonna tell you about our friends at
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about that in a bit. But but we would not be doing the peeps
a duty a service if we did not recap what we saw a Tuesday in
Japan. Yes, we'll get to Spence and Crawford why we're here in Vegas,
But my goodness has now oh yeah, in a way stopped hitting Stephen
Fulton here now that we're later in the week because he hit him a bunch
on Tuesday in Japan. Stopped him and now is the unified one and twenty
two pound champ to follow up being undisputed at Banamwait your thoughts on what we
saw, Dan Rayphield. My thoughts are that, in a way is a
truly great fighter. I mean, I'm not overstating it, and I don't
want to make Stephen Fulton out to be like he's the next coming of you
know, an all time grade, but he's he was considered by far and
away at this moment in time the number one fighter in the division that one
hundred and twenty two pounds, and he came in with pretty good recent resume
and a lot of confidence and a bigger size and you know, a lot
of versatility in his game and in a good seemed like in a good head
space about going about the business fearless, about going to Japan and he didn't
compete. He just didn't compete. I mean, I'm not I'm not trying
to knock him. I mean it just that's the way it goes. He
was in with a as as I said before the fight when I made the
pick for our bet Us show and picked him by the knock picked anyway,
by the knock out with the under ten and a. My statement on the
show last Friday was, Stephen Fulton is a very good fighter, and in
a way is a great fighter, and that's what great fighters do to very
good fighters. And that's exactly what happened. In a way is a and
I'm not again, I'm not trying to overstate it. He is a guy
who would have competed with anybody in the history of boxing, from the smallest
weight classes into the you know eight bannom weights into the you know, junior
featherwights. We'll see his team talked about this week about after a stay at
junior featherweight, about eventually moving up to featherweight. By the way, there
was a reason right rub c Ramirez was on the undercard. That's a guy
that his team talked about fighting in the future for the WBO featherweight title.
But his performance against Stephen Fulton was incredibly special. It was tremendous. It
was there's a hand you know. It wasn't a great fight, but it
was a great performance. And it makes me think about certain fights where you
see a fight where you think it's gonna be a great matchup going in and
one guy just pummels the other guy takes him completely apart, where you're surprised
and so it's not a great fight, but a great performance. I think
about Bernard Hopkins against Philix trinidad Um. I think about unfortunately Winki right against
Philix triniadad Um. I think about Bannie pack Yell against Oscar de la Joya.
I mean, we can go on and on. There's recently Tyson Fury
against Deontay Wilder in the second fight, not the third fight, which was
back and forth. The second fight he pretty much dominated him. There there
are definitely those types of fights where one fighter puts on the kind of performance
that is historical in nature, and that's what this was. I mean,
And I don't I want to impress on people who if they haven't followed in
a way or they didn't bother to get up at early in the morning East
Coast time to watch the fight. Maybe they haven't, maybe they're gonna go
back and look at it on demand on ESPN Plus. You're seeing a special
fighter in his prime, and you should appreciate what you're seeing. He is
a bona fide now four division champion, was undisputed at bantamwaight. I know
he's not fighting household names, but he's fighting all the best guys. He's
not ducked in Anyboddy. He would have been another championship if he had bothered
the fight at the flyweight division. But he went from one o eight and
went right to one fifteen for his next title, kind of like Manny Pacio
skipped over. You know, his first championship was at one o eight and
he skipped over, or I'm sorry, was at one twelve. He didn't
fight for titles at one fifteen or one eighteen. He went right to one
twenty two and he won the title at that way class. So in a
way, his spectacular fighter. He's exciting. He's got a big, big
profile in Japan. He's the biggest star. He's making eight figures of fight
and people say, why did he come to the United States well, because
he's making massive money there and selling crowds out, and it doesn't need to
He's as famous as it gets over there, and he wouldn't make as much
money probably fighting in the United States anymore as he would in Japan. But
also let me just say this about him. He's gonna fight Marlin to Polis
in probably December, from what Top Rank tells me. They mentioned November on
the broadcast to Paulus has the other two belts who we won from Akmandalia.
He was in the ring after the fight. His team is going over the
fight. In a way, once a fight, there's not gonna be any
problems. I don't believe making that match. They'll get it on a December
and in a way will pummel to Polace within an inch of his life.
He'll be undisputed at featherweight junior featherweight, and if Crawford wins on Saturday,
he'll be the first mailboxer to be undiscuted in two weight classes. If Anyway
does that in December, he'll be the second. But if Crawford loses,
in a way would become the first. If he wins, and then he
mentioned his team they'd do a post on Wednesday. After day after the fight,
they did a press country and they spoke about their future to Polace in
the end of the year. They're talking about other fights in that weight class,
Luise Neary, which would be a good fight. Also when they mentioned
John Riale Casimearo, and then they talked about you know, and maybe not
necessarily the next fight, but in the not too distant future featherweight and roll
base her Maris to win a title and a fifth weight class. You're seeing
a historical figure do his thing at his best and enjoy it right now.
I promise we're gonna get to Spencon Crawford and the reason why we're here in
a couple of moments. But this is worth while. You cannot say enough.
I don't think about the punching power in both hands and going to the
body and setting it up. And Stephen Fulton just didn't have answers and he
and again he's a talented fighter, a good fighter, but he didn't have
answers and that was impressive to watch. So I don't know, I don't
know who who's gonna line up quickly. I know Tapola is gonna get paid
a bunch. But who's gonna line up quickly right now to fight, you
know, off of what we saw the other night Casimarow and Neary and those
another way, mighty one who legitimately has a chance to beat him at one
twenty two the next fight or to nobody. So that's I mean, that's
unless he got injured, there's some crazy thing happens. I mean, you
never know. Let me just tell you right now, he is now in
a way and again, look at the record, he's beating a lot of
champions unifications, etc. Twenty one straight championship fight wins, twenty one I
believe he's twenty and oh now with eighteen knockouts twenty No, it's I believe
it's twenty one eighteen. But that's a remarkable championship record. I mean,
you know, that's that's as good of a record as guys you know who
who are haven't even fought for titles. That tells you how long he's been
fighting for titles because he was a guy that was didn't need a lot of
seasoning when he came in for the professionals. Okay, so good stuff on
that. So now let's get to the reason why we're here again. We're
doing this Friday afternoon. I'm all messed up on the time zones. You
and i've had adventure getting here. You've from your home in northern Virginia,
meet from west central Florida. It didn't get here badly. I didn't have
adventure, but I mean my adventure has been several fold. Number one,
get any here, get set up, get whatever. And then my phone
stops working, which you would say is a benefit because then I'm not bothering
you. True, my wife say that's say that's a benefit. I'm not
bothering her. I finally got the phone to the Verizon store got it working,
so we're all good on that. We got here on Thursday midday.
I'm sorry on Wednesday, but we got here Thursday midday to the media center
and for the press conference. That's where we are today. You're gonna hear
from Sean Porter, who we talked to in a little bit. But now
let you and I go over the press conferences that we've seen. And you've
been at a bunch of these, and I've been at a few of them,
and I've been at a ton of press conferences for all sports boxing a
few, You've been to hundreds. So they get it inside the Team Obile
arena where the way in will take place on Friday. The fight will take
place on Saturday. Give the fans a little bit of your impressions of what
you saw. It was more lively out in the crowd. I thought for
a couple of moments this might might be an undercard fight between the entourages Crawford
and Spence. It's never cool when the trainers yap at each other. I
mean, you know, I understand they're excited, they're involved. I mean,
they're a big part of this, but you know the way that Brian
McIntyre, Terrence Crawford's trainer, and Derek James Errol's trainer. And I've known
both those men for many, many years. They're both good guys and they're
both great trainers. But I just didn't like how they went back and forth
to each other's very uncalled for some of the language that they used and some
of the things they said. They're not going to be the ones taking punches
on Saturday. So I don't really like that at all. And then you
had like the peanut gallery. I guess he had people from the Errol Spence
family and friends, cousins, buddies, whatever, you know who. They
reserved the first couple of rows for I thought it was a press conference,
but I guess not for everybody because they had not pressed. But there was
a lot of hoot and hollerand back and forth between them and between Crawford and
vice versa with Crawford's team and Spence, but the difference was Errol pretty much
let her roll off his back and didn't really respond or say anything. But
at the end of the press cofference, you could tell he was starting to
get to Crawford because he opened his mouth and said some bad words we won't
say on the part. Yeah, you know me, I have no problems
saying a couple of mfs and fuck that fucked us on the press covers,
on our on our on our podcast, but I'm not going to use the
language that that uh Terre Scrawford used, and I'll just say it starts with
an end. Uh. I didn't appreciate that either, and some other pretty
and he said it over and over again, which I thought was sort of
repetitive and redundant and sort of irritating. But other than that, moment,
those few seconds, the ones that kept it uh respectful and and and all
we're we're we're the fighters were the two the two guys. The families were
going at each other, the trainers are going at each other. And Crawford
and Crawford may have had words with people and Errol's team, but Errol and
Crawford, I mean, they had a couple of things at the press covers.
You're trying to put on a show, I guess, but they showed
that their profession, you know, showed their professionalism. And look, they're
ready to go. That's all I can say. They are ready to fucking
bite. Can compare it in recent memory? All right? What about the
Jervonte Davis, uh Ryan Garcia or we can we can even go back because
it wasn't really bad blood, I don't think in that one. What about
Mayweather Packia you covered Dad in the same city. It's been like seven or
eight years. You know what's funny about that? Did it? Was there
anything like that in that when where they were arguing with each other? That
press conference must have sucked so bad. I don't even remember the press conference.
It was that whole week was was corporate. It was only about the
payday for everybody, right, So, I mean I remember things about covering
that event. As I've said numerous times, of all the hundreds of events
I have covered, that's the worst event I have ever covered. Not the
fight itself, which wasn't great, but just the event. It was a
miserable experience being here in Las Vegas for the entire week. I understand that.
As far as this one goes, yeah, it was a good,
lively press conference. I mean it should definitely stoke a little bit of interest
if you're watching it on the on you know, the clips they'll show on
YouTube or on whatever social media, or if it gets on Sports Center or
whatever. I'm curious how much ESPN will pay attention to this. ESPN the
networks, because again, you work for them for a long time. I'm
not I'm not bashing them just to bash them, but largely, if it's
not top rank show, they don't pay a lot of attention to it.
Not entirely true. They covered the DeVante tank fight, Mudge against Ryan Grton,
They had people out here. I'm gonna okay, listen, everybody knows,
you know didn't renew my contract. I know I have a lot of
friends at that company, and I have a lot of great memories, a
lot of people I love there. But not everything is perfect. There's a
lot of things I could say that are not great about ESPN, but I
will not cut them down because they did cover that fight the way that my
best ray Field can I finish where I was going. And then they are
not covering this fight the way it should be coming. Thank you, Because
we were here Wednesday, they're not here live, and there's others not here
live. Fox Sports is not here live, CBS Sports dot Com will actually
show times a division of all of that, and they're here live covering it.
But when Thursday now, they're not here live covering it. And that's
back twenty thirty years ago. I know it's a different time. That's unthinkable.
Even if they weren't showing the fight or whatever, they were all to
see an example. Yeah, this is what we used to do. When
I was working at ESPN. We would not only cover the fight. I
mean I would cover it for the dot com, but I have I made
hundreds of appearances on Sports Center and other talk shows for fights that aren't even
in the stuff. I'll give you an example. Like I was out here
for a whole you know, from like Tuesday on probably with my man Brian
Kenny, and they brought in and hired as a guest analyst to work with
us. Marvin Hagler and I worked a couple of days the story, yes,
and we covered Winky Wright Bernard Hopkins, and that was an important fight
between two great fighters that ESPN had nothing to do with a fight. And
it wasn't like a blockbuster that everybody wanted to fight. It was just a
good matchup with you know, two top guys. And this is way bigger
than that fight. And they're not covering now that. Look, everybody's got
to make their own editorial decisions. You know what, people will listen more
to our podcasts and all the other excellent podcasts that go on from here and
other coverage. You know, they don't need a network to cover the fighting
anymore to let people know about it. That's true, you know, listen.
I mean I find this out in my own existence. I don't I
don't have to deal with the USA today anymore or ESPN. I have my
own business on nice substack, and the people they want to read the real
deal, they can come and read my material. Some of it's you know,
they pay a sub fee for the extra stuff, and uh, they
pay me directly, and I hustle my ass off and I appreciate that.
But I'm making the point larger that you don't need a monolithic, gigantic corporation
to cover your event to still make a dent in American society. It would
be better if ESPN covered the fight in a real way, But at the
end of the day, they have to make their decisions. Or Fox Sports
or CNN pick. But I'm but I'm picking on ESPN because they're number one,
right right, And it bear in mind that again when it was Devin
Hainey and Lomachenko, they were going NonStop all week. That got a facility.
Here's the it's their product. That's the point, no doubt about it.
And anyway, but on the press conference, so as a whole,
like, I would just say this, if you watch the press conference to
half an hour or so that it went for, you have to leave that
that that press conference being a little more stoked for the fight than you were
before, whatever your level of excitement was before the fight. I mean one
comment I did think and I saw this when we spoke to us afterwards,
Crawford looks fresh as daisy, like the weight cuts no big deal. He
looks like he's ready to go. Errol is looking a little sudden can in
the eyes, talk a little slower, a little slower in his gait.
He's suffering right now to make forty seven. And he did say that to
us in the when he came to talk to us after the press conference,
that he would if there if there is a rematch, Just so people understand,
there's a rematch clause. The loser gets to invoke the rematch clause.
I mean, this is not a once in a lifetime opportunity to see this
fight as an undisputed wealth red fight, probably because if there is a rematch
motion inside joke on the podcast, weightside joke on the podcast. But what
I was gonna say though, So the loser has the option to involge a
rematch clause. But from what Errol said, the winner gets to dictate what
the weight is for the fight. So Errol's position was if I win,
which he plans to do, and if Crawford says, give me the rematch,
he said it will be at one hundred fifty four pounds. Now maybe
that will change, but that's what he said as of uh, you know,
after the news conference. Interesting, this is why we had also and
they did the coin flip. That was ther thing. Okay, so yeah,
we should mention this, and we took some pictures of it and put
it on social media, and you did it as well. I got a
little video, but I couldn't see him very well. I am disappointed in
you. These are rare occasions. I thought you were gonna break who was
flipping the coin. I kept waiting. I did my update that it was
gonna be Selene Dion or it was going it was going to be one of
the fast. I'm so busy with other shit that I understand. I never
even bothered playing a phone call. Let's give credit where it's due. They
pull out Iron Mike. They pull out Mike Tyson to do the coin floor.
They said, I asked somebody about that. They said, if we're
gonna have somebody flip the coin, we need somebody who was undisputed. And
Mike lives lives here and uh spends a lot of time here in Last Man
if he lives here anymore full time, but he spends a lot of time
here. Um, and uh, he's still a guy that's ubiquitous, had
the big fights, and he's ubiquitous is a great words. He's uh,
I gotta listen. I got nothing my love for Tyson, so he's my
guy. But he did a shitty job with that. Okay, So he
comes out to toss the coin and he even knew it was gonna probably be
easy. And I don't know because I've not seen a replay. Did it
actually flip or did he more drop it? Pretty sure flip. But the
bottom line is Terrence Crawford won it. He called heads. He won it,
and I guess they're leaving it a mystery because it's his choice. The
way they explained it that the winner the toss would either get to walk first
to the ring and be introduced second, or walk second to the ring but
be introduced first. I would assume, but it's only an assumption that he's
going to come to the ring seconds. That was why they did the coin
toss when you know, as the way Spence explained it, and he talked
to us about this also when he came off the stage after the press conference,
he figured he's the a side the fight's called Spence, Crawford, he
should have that privilege, so to make them one of the bones of a
contention in the negotiation that he just wanted to get the fight done. And
he said it was actually Crawford's idea, let's flip a coin, and Arrow
said, okay. And so if Crawford wanted to flip the coin for the
right to see who walk second, obviously he's gonna pick to walk. I
mean to me, whatever, if he picked a walk first, that'd be
a bigger upset than anything happens in the fight. All right, So now
we'll see what he chooses. But we were not told what it is.
We'll find out way. I'll tell you what tomorrow. When Crawford came off
the stage and also spoke to us for a few minutes, I asked him,
I said, so, Terrence, which is it gonna be. You're
gonna walk first, You're gonna walk a second. And it kind of gave
me that that very scary look, and he was like, what did you
hear me say it? At the press card? It's they're not gonna tell
us, not tomorrow. So soon did you hear what I said? He
would got a little Mouthee with me. I wasn't gonnaunch him. I don't
want to ruin a fight. Oh I say, you were gonna take him
on? I say, okay. So there's enough about the press conference again.
You and I will make fight predictions first plug for the bet Us Boxing
Show Live. Do I say at first ten Pacific one eastrin because we're on
Pacific time. We'll be on bet Us TV's platforms on Friday, ten Pacific
one Eastern time. We'll make fight predictions about the fight. Stand by for
that part tomorrow. Better than just you and me, Why don't we bring
somebody else into the conversation right now from here at the radio row inside of
the media area, right next to the T Mobile Arena. Let's get to
that conversation right now. We're in the arrow Spence Terrence Crawford Media Center.
It's a little loud in the tent behind the T Mobile Arena. I'm joined
with my first in person media in my long time partner TJ Areas. That's
a big deal, but more of a big deal, no no offense,
TJ. More big done here with the former two time welterweight world champion Sean
Porter, who was here with a lot of knowledge about this fight because you
fought both guys. And we'll get to that in just a minute. I
wanted to start off say thank you for doing this. How have you been
joying your with You're like, you're you're mister personality over this meeting room talking
everybody. Yeah, no, I love it. Um. I do definitely
believe that I live in my purpose daily and one of the purposes I didn't
realize I would have is trying to help push boxing forward and make it more
more lively than ever. Yeah, that's what I'm doing that. So before
we get into all the details on the fight, I'm actually curious because you
look like you're in great shape, maybe not fighting shape, but in good
shape. How how has retirement been for you? I mean you you called
it a day after the Crawford fight. You haven't looked back. It doesn't
see it now now. I don't want to intend to either. I like
to say the next time you see me in the boxing ring, and it'll
be in a movie. And I am definitely working on that right now.
So I mean everything from the industry getting into that, which was a goal
of mine. I was to when I was about eighteen nineteen years old,
all the way down to the suit line that I'm launching this week. I
mean, and everything in between, broadcasting the podcast, doing some other things,
motivational speaking, creating a life coaching certification, while life coaching program,
I mean a whole nine. I'm doing a lie. Yeah. Well,
we have our fans. I listen to our big Fight Weekend and Fight Feach
to Night podcast. But we gotta give you up your props. I'm the
very popular The Porterway podcast. You said the next time you'll be in the
ring is gonna be maybe when you're in a movie. I actually thought to
myself, you know, Sean's a kind of guy can see maybe trying to
be a trainer, and you got so much knowledge and you have such an
enthusiasm for the sport. Has being coming a trainer at any point? And
your father was your trainer, so you certainly know that in terms of the
family. Has that ever come to your mind? Yeah? No, I
am definitely a teacher. I have a heart to help, and I think
that that's where being a coach starts, from having the ability to teach and
then so having that that that passion to help. Um, I actually am
grateful that no one has approached me yet to train because I really don't have
the time for it. So um, I do anticipate that coming one day,
but not not too much sooner than than some of the other things I'm
doing. All right, So now we got this fight and that's why we're
all here. Spence against Crawford for my money, the best fight in boxing.
Uh. It may not be the biggest fight in terms of the money,
it's gonna be hard pressed to pass by what Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis
did, but certainly from a significant standpoint as a former welterweight champion in a
division where you you're in that great group of guys with Crawford, with Spence,
with Keith Thurman, with Danny Garcia, with a lot of tremendous fighters
kell Brook in that time frame, how excited are you just as a as
a former champion in this weight class who's fought some of these guys, to
see there finally be an undisputed champ for the first time in a long time.
I'm I'm more interested in these guys opposed to the belts. Um to
me, that's secondary, maybe even third and nary if that's the word um.
I just think that the epitome of what these fighters are gonna do on
fighting night is even bigger and better than what Tank and Ryan Dye. Obviously,
we saw how that fight unfolded. Most of us who know boxing knew
expected it to go the way that it went. But this one you can't.
You can't truly predict this fight and have a comfortable, confident prediction about
how this fight as gonna go. I think that that's what makes this fight
is special. I hate for anyone to miss it. Nine. Obviously,
everybody knows that they followed the sport. They know that Sean Porter fought against
Roll Spence, had a great fight, a unification fight, a close fight,
dropped in the eleventh round. You want to split decision. It was
a very close, competitive fight. A couple of years later, you had
to fight with Terren Strafford, also competitive, stopped doing the tenth when your
dad threw in the towel. So you've you've got that experience of being in
with with these guys at their best in the big time, championship level fights,
both on pay per view. When you look at this match or from
your standpoint as a guy that faced both men, real real easily question easy
questioners. Who do you think is better from what you experienced that well?
I answered this is you just gotta understand that I thought erro Spence in twenty
nineteen he's a better fighter now than he was when we fought a lot of
experiences and the biggest experience outside of the ring made him better in the ring.
It is what it is. But overall, I just think that we
you can see that Terence has this tenacity, this hunger, and also this
skill, talent, and and and he just has these assets that make him
hard to bet against. You know, I think the tough and rugged erro
Spence is what makes us feel like, Yo, this is definitely fifth and
fifty. Both guys are that great, all right. So I want to
know if you, if you could examine and think about both of the guys
you fought and what they break, give me if you could one thing from
each guy that they do better than the other guy that in the contrast of
styles, it's just so beautiful because Terence is a master at the at dictating
that the range and the distance the fight. I've never been in there ring
with someone where I just it was invisible for me at points in the fight,
and then there were points in the fight where it was there and then
I could see it just instantly go away, and It's like I'm an explosive
fighter and I just cannot can't find it and to capitalize on that. Rrol
spence. He likes the crowd, he likes to be in your space,
he likes to dictate the pace, and I just think that, man,
that's what makes this so beautiful because you got one guy who knows how to
change that range and that distance so seamlessly, and then another guy who just
doesn't care where it's that. I'm gonna make it where I want it to
be, you know. So those I think that that's what they do the
best. So there were definitely moments in both fights where you had your where
you had your moments. Yeah, again, you know, obviously against Arrol
being that was so close, and even with Crawford, there was definitely competitive
rounds and that sort of thing. So knowing that you may have had not
I would say you had them in trouble, but you know you had their
attention. Yeah, who who do you Who's got the bigger balls when if
it comes down to that in the fight. Yeah, I really don't think
you can measure it. It has to be measured against one another. I
saw Terrence, and I've always been the bully in the rain, and kid
was like trying to bully me, you know what I mean. It takes
balls and trying to bully the bully, you know, and then we arrow.
I mean, look where he did against Look where he did against you
didn't zugas you know, one round he goes down the net or almost goes
down. The next round ear muffs on, I'm coming after you, and
there's nothing you can do about it. I mean, it takes balls to
make that kind of decision and stand after it, stand behind it, round
after round until you get your result. All right, My mants got a
question for it also. Okay, so this is no different than most of
our podcasts where Raphael talks like eighty percent of the time. So thank you
for doing this and thank you for waiting through all of them. I'm not
gonna allow you to just paint that picture like that. And he tried to
bring you, he tried to get you the mike. He said, no,
no, I don't want it, not yet. But my role is
like fluff the caddy Back in the day with Tiger Woods, I heard my
man the driver away. I know my role and I rip it and rip
it. Yesse does so. I just want to know you've been in this
moment with both of them. With Errol it was at the Staples Center,
the Terrence, it was here in Vegas, maybe a little smaller venue for
the fans. What is that moment like when the introductions have happened, the
final instruction from the referee has happened, and the bell is about the ring,
because you experience it with both of them, what is that moment like
in the rain, It's like the calm before the storm that when that bell
rings, it's like you have to be so focused on train, what you
train for, and what you're expecting to see and all these mental things.
But the lead up between that is to walk out and all those things.
I truly do not think that. I think everyone's going to feel the same
energy that they're filling in the ring. They won't sit down for the first
thirty seconds in this fight. I think the whole crowd is going to be
standing when this five starts, all the way up until about thirty seconds.
If it's a slow thirty seconds, and everybody was thought that kind of you
know, you've seen that before when they kind of slowly, very slowly sit
down, but something big happens in the first round, everybody's right back up.
I always have this image from a fight I covered many years ago,
when Felix turn to that fount where Cardo might organ at Madison Square Garden and
they hit that first bell and every single person in the stand and stood up.
It was incredible, And I think you're right it might be something similar
to that given the anticipation. What I wondered is one of the things I
was trying to think about is like the what are the things that maybe they're
not super bad? And so when I think about Crawford, one thing always
springs to my mind because he does everything so well. He's a slow starter.
There's no doubt about that. I wonder if you think there's that that's
something that Spence can exploit. Yeah, I think that's something that he can
exploit. I think the other side of that too, is you gotta we
do have to understand that these fighters watch and listen, and Terence has been
hearing that he's just slow starter for a long time. And I think that
it will be be a big mistake for him to think that he can come
in here and do it like he always does it. I don't expect him
too. But we have also heard him say to the media that he he's
just gonna be himself, thinking that's a great decision, be yourself. But
he cannot afford the star slow. I don't think he's going to the other.
Thing about Crawford, and and anybody that fights him is aware of this.
I'm sure you know he's listed as a right handed fighter, but he
fights southball so much of the time, and he's very good at both of
them. He switches whenever he wants. How much of a problem do you
think that could be for Spenster. I didn't know he was listed as a
as a right handed fighter because the majority of his fights he fights south Paul.
I think that, um, I think it would be in his best
interest to switch and fight from both ways. It's not a hard transition for
the opposite. When you know what you're doing in that ring, you see
one one foot move, you know what's happening, and you mentally you know
what to do, and so I don't think from that standpoint. I don't
think it's gonna do a lot in terms of how Arrow performs, but what
it will do is open up different raw create other openings for a Terrence,
So they think it to be good for him to do that. That's very
funny you're talking about looking at the fee because I've watched a lot of fights,
and I don't I spend I do not a lot of time, but
I always made sure to look at the feet of the fighter, particularly if
it's a lefty verse a righty, because you can tell who's gonna get that
leverage to get that outside foot. Yeah. So when it comes to the
power that both these men possessed, you've been hit by both of these guys.
Who is the better puncher? I think both guys. It's all about
the delivery, you know. Um Spence is very very strong, has a
has a straight, very conventional boxing style, and uh and the way that
he delivers those punches, he delivers them beautifully. The other side of that
is is Terrence has that whipping right hand, that whipping hook, his punches
like a whip. I mean, the power is is deceptive because of his
body's structure, you know. But I mean Honestly, I think that we're
looking at two fighters who have top rated power, power that I can't tell
you about because you don't feel in until the next day, you know.
But the other side of that is both these guys they have they have the
ability to deliver some serious power and hurt one another. All right, we'll
more from you to TJ. So the last one than I have is forty
two years ago Leonard and Hearns that you're gonna say I was born No,
No, if you're younger than that, aren't you? You know I'm older
than that. Ray fiels older than that too, by the way. Uh
And then day Lo Joya and Trinidad and now most recently Mayweather Pacie Owl though
that one was probably past the expiration data when it should have happened. Yeah,
is this fight going to be remembered? And maybe there'll be a second
one? We know that, But is this fight gonna be remembered like we're
remembering Leonard Hearns forty years ago, like we're remembering day Lo Joya Trinidad almost
twenty years ago? Do you believe this will be a legacy fight that we
remember. These fighters have the ability to end the ring performance such and I
think also outside of the ring, they have created such a stir and such
so much animosity towards one another, and in this respectful yet disrespectful way that
I think people are appreciating it entirely. I'm hoping that everybody watches this one.
It will live up to the building. I hope those two. I
don't necessarily agree with you about the animosity. I think they have a deep
respect for each other. But that's that's a different story. You know.
I can't end the interview. I'm sure you've been asked this, probably by
every interview you have done. I'm gonna try to pin you down and see
if I can do it. Gets you on the ropes a little bit.
Who's your pick? I don't gotta pick, alight, I can't. I
can't force it out of you. No, you can't. I mean,
who's your pick? I honestly, I gotta. I gotta do a betting
show on Friday, and I have to make the pick because I gotta to
do this show with my man TJ. Because I haven't actually made my official
pick. What I've been doing, I've been I'll tell you this, though,
I go back and forth for a long time, I kept thinking Crawford,
Crawford, and now I kind of got that pangs of a veryl Spence.
I had a conversation with our good pal Larry Merchant the other night before
I flew out here. He says he's rolling with Spence by a knockout.
So I don't know what to do. But by the way, he always
goes back and forth on the fifty fifty fights, and whoever he picks,
he blames me that he had to be pinned down, So I will get
the lame with whoever he picks if it doesn't work out, all right,
So Porter's got no pick. He got no pick. Man. I think
that this this is gonna be amazing. Why you can't predate? You go
there, Sharan Porter, Sean, thank you very much for running us.
We appreciate it. Good to see you again. Uniquely qualified having been in
the ring with both Errol Spans and Terrence Quawford. Great to see showtime.
Sean pulled her out here with us in the media center, giving us some
great outledge there on. Shan has always been a great, great talker,
He's got good insight. You obviously fought both guys and Sean's always been a
fighter. I think that throughout his career, was always respectful to the fans,
always respectful to the press, and is a very likable guy. And
uh I joked with him, I said, you know, you'll still look
like you're in fighting, you know, maybe not fighting shape, but like
he's kept himself in good shape since his retirement. But as he said,
he's done. You know, he talked about all the things he's doing as
good hard but I was intrigued when I asked him out. You know,
I could see being a trainer someday and he didn't dule that out down the
road. You know, he's doing a few things now, but at some
point I do think we're going to see Sean Porter in the corner training fighters.
I'm not his agent. He's really good though on TV, really good
with the media, and that continues to grow for him as well, and
good for him. And you try to get a prediction out of him that
isn't happening, but I tried it will bet you did make the effort there
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Okay, So the undercard for this and again we will make fight predictions all
second mentioned the bet Us Boxing Show ten Pacific one Eastern time on Friday,
Esa Cruise in Action with Giovanni Caprera in the lightweight WBC. Clarify for me
is that w BA and WC lightweight eliminate eliminator for both. He had both
belts there get belts weren't for that, that's where his belts. He has
different belts. This is a This is a eliminator for the you know,
for a fight for their titles, to have an opportunity to fight in the
and the lightweight titles may be about to be vacated by Devin Haying, so
we'll see stay tuned. So that is the co feature and then just before
that, forty year old no Nito don Air will go once again for the
WBC bannomweight title that he's held previously twice, uh Naoya in a way taking
it off of him both times, and uh he will fight Santiago. They
exchange some words on this on this undercard of Spence Crawf for your thoughts on
the undercard quick, I think it's a good undercard actually. I mean,
first of all, the first fight between uh jus Teez the young Cuban fighters
like what five and oh I guess, but he's taken on a real guy
in Sergio Garcia. Now Garcia, remember was supposed to have a different fighting
and than there were some injuries that a rearrange the undercard when Hazers Ramos was
injured. But it's an awesome opportunity for Teas to do his thing and show
people who he is. He's again a guy with not a lot of experience
as a pro, but coming from that great amateur program. They're moving him
quick. If you're if you're in your six pro fight and you're fighting Sergio
Garcia, you know they must think something highly because Garcia is no bum.
You know, he's lost to the some of the better guys like Fandor for
example, but he's he's solid so that's a that's a solid opening fight.
Uh, the Donair fight. Obviously he's gonna have a chance to make history
against Santiago as a young fighter, Mexican fighter, hungry. Um, but
he can't. I mean, I know he got knocked out by Donair,
I mean by rather by in a way in the rematch a little over a
year ago in the second round, and but it was in a way.
Now he's finding Santiago difference, big difference. Big. As they say,
there are levels, so the levels forty and he always wonder about how that's
gonna but he seemed in good spirits, seems in good shape. Uh,
Santiago has never shown any special sort of quality in his past fights. I
mean, now I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, but he's he's just
a regular, you know, quality professional, but not a championship level guy,
it seems to me. So if No No Needo has anything left,
he should will become a four time bantamweight champion. He will once again if
he wins, break his own record for the second time of becoming the oldest
fighter to win a bantamweight title. And as he said on the podcast interview
that we had with him prior to the fight being moved from the showtime card
a couple of weeks ago this card to win again when the injuries started to
reshape things a little bit. He talked about wanting to break Bernard Hopkins his
record for the oldest fighter Everton to win a WORLDIEU, which would mean another
eight years on the an air because he's you know, he's forty years old
now. Now. Grant that Bernard was several years older when he turned pro,
Nonido was a much younger fighter, but uh, look, it's a
great opportunity for him, and I'm not gonna lie. I've been a big
Nonedo do a fan, no Needo Don't Air fan for many many years.
I know him well and his family. He's a great, great fighter,
hall of famer, and I believe if he wins the fight, he loses
the fight, he's a Hall of Famer regardless, But it will just show
you, uh the kind of uh just another like added bonus for the great
career that this man has had. And obviously if if if the upset happens
and Santiago is the winner, you know you put a name like you know,
Nonto don't Air on your on your resume. Okay, how old he
is, that's still impressive. So I think that's gonna be an interesting fight.
And hey, and again, it's some point when you're forty through thirty
nine, you're forty one or one. Remember, by the way, he's
still making one hundred eighteen after spending several years campaigning. At twenty two and
twenty seen, he's already the oldest Bannom weight champion ever at thirty eight,
So he's bidding to break his own record on that. But the only thing
I'm saying I don't wish for this is sooner or later. You can't do
it the way you used to. You're not as fast as you used to.
It's a young man's game. We'll see, Manny Packy, I'll fought
on at a high level forty one, forty two, forty three. You've
mentioned Bernard Hopkins an fifties that have continued to do it, So we'll see
if don't air can and then one more time you You interviewed Esa Cruz a
few weeks ago for this podcast. Now that fights almost here, he very
much. He talked like three times about Davonte Davis, almost like this is
an afterthought. That he's gonna beat Cobra. I don't think it's an afterthought,
but I do think that the reason why he's in this co feature,
among other reasons, is because I believe that PBC views him as the likely
opponent for Dank Davis in a rematch. When tanken Evialy comes back, you
know, he just got out of jail after the you know, six weeks
or so we spent, but he'll be back this fall. One would assume
to make an a big paid ay and do another pay per view event.
And look, that first fight between him and Cruise had to leave some questions.
A lot of people thought the Cruiser was the winner. Tank has obviously
gone on and scored big wins since then, including obviously the one against Ryan
Garcia earlier this year. But I would have no problem if he does that
rematch. I mean, I mean, if I could pick, I'd rather
see him fight Devin any or you know one of the bigger names. Uh,
you know, go to one forty and fight some of the guys up
there, fight Vellasi, the Celey, Lomachenko, whatever. But if you're
gonna stay within the PBC universe, that seems like a very reasonable fight to
me, and uh, he's in with an undefeated fighter in Carebrera. One
thing I noticed that was sort of surprising was how much taller Cabrera was in
Isaac Cruiz in Estoc I should say is much. He's got about four or
five inches. It seems like I'm the guy. He was better dressed too.
He almost looked like Martin Cabrera spoke. Cabrera's got a lot of confidence
going on, That's all I can say. And you know he's never lost,
but he also hasn't fought top guys. And we'll see. I do
like his you know, you gotta like the enthusiasm. That is the cool
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and I know you love the history of the sport like I do. That
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I'm not saying it is Sugar, Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns, all right,
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that years from now, Oscar dal Lajoya and Felix Trinidad fought for the world
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in twenty twenty three. Do you believe that we will be talking about this
fight historically significance significant a few years from now, ten years from now?
What do you believe about this one? Mark? I think there's a very
high likelihood that we will for several reasons. And by the way, you're
not the first person I've heard mentioned some of those other fights as comps for
this one. So I think that feeling is, you know, permeating boxing
circles. I mean, listen, you look at just some of the easy
facts and figures undefeated fighters, primes of their career, bound for the Hall
of Fame. Neither has ever been knocked down, by the way, right
and how many knockouts do they each have combined? Right? Dozens? I
mean, you just have all the ingredients for a really, really great night.
And one of the special things about this fight too, TJ, that
I look at this really is about what's going to happen in the ring.
So many other fights that we cover and we love and are exciting, it's
about the build up. It's about the drawing between the fighters beforehand. So
a little bit of that in the press conference, but that's not really been
the style of either of these guys. What's so special about this is what's
going to happen in the ring. That's what I think everyone's really excited about.
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media center right next to the Team Mobile arena and getting ready for Spence Crawford
on Saturday night. A little nostalgia, it wouldn't be a podcast. I
know we got a big week, but we see, let's just pull the
curtain back a little bit, or the tent in this case back a little
bit. You said to me, do we need to do nostalgia? And
I said it would not be a Reef Raphael Reeves podcast without the nostalgia.
And you immediately came up with Zoo Chavez and Julio Caesar Chavez Senior, the
Hall of Famer his final championship fight. Yeah, I mean I knew that
because I had pulled out the poster and put it in my notebook a couple
of days ago. But yeah, uh, it's gonna be what ye twenty
three years ago on Saturday. So another summer fight that took place in a
very hot location because it was in Phoenix, where chav is obviously a Mexican
fighter fighting Russian from Australia, was not the hometown favorite. You know.
At the time, it was kind of like people like just said they should
all over the fight because he had been beaten by Oscar Deloi in the rematch.
He had retired on the stool in their welterweight title fight. He had
not fought at one hundred and forty pounds. He had like three or four
other he had four other fights after that loss. He beat three stiffs and
lost to a stiff and was three and one and yet somehow, the WBC
made him the mandatory challenger at one hundred forty pounds. As I wrote trying
to be nice, that was a position that he was given as the mandatory
more out of the heart than the head, right, But he was the
Mexican fighter, and at the time, Jose Sulaman was the president of the
WBC obviously had a very close relationship with Chavez, and let's just call it
what it was. He was given his guy the opportunity when Chavs, you
know, was happy to have it, and Kasazu wasn't too unhappy about it
because he got a chance to fight an icon and make a big pig pay
day. I was on showtime also, and it was chavs his final world
title fight. He fought about five more times after that, but that was
the last time he had an opportunity to fight for a title, and it
was I remember watching it, you know, at the time it happened,
it was kind of sad because here's this old man that was a shell of
the great fighter that he had been. Whatever he had left. Oscar took
the rest out of him when he when he beat him up in this in
the rematch and made him stop. He retired on the stool and uh kasa
Zou and knock him down in round six, had one every round and then
finally in the final flurry he was beating the living shit out of him and
the referee stopped the fighting. That was the end of the story. And
that was a long time ago, and but it brought to the clothes you
know, at the high stage. Anyway, Chavis, like I said,
he did fight a few more times, including a famous fight that was where
he fought on the same cart as his sons Chavez Junior, which was a
big hyped up thing at the time. But in terms of at the top
level of championship boxing, that was all she wrote for Chavez. And that
was twenty three years ago on Saturday, July twenty ninth of two thousand.
By the way, Kassazou, you know it maybe not maybe not necessarily number
one, but he's in the conversation for the top one hundred forty pounders of
all time kind of Hall of famer as a should be there absolutely And now
July twenty ninth of twenty twenty three, we are ready for two. Are
going to be back here for twenty three years, having nostaledge about this fight.
Are you assuming that I'm gonna put up with you and you're gonna put
up with me for twenty three more years? What I was thinking? I
don't know what the under over is, but I was just working on twenty
twenty four for next year, So twenty three years from now, there may
be some serious nostalgia about this fight. We went. We didn't have back
back these times, the fights. We didn't have podcast back twenty three years.
Oh, we did not. So therealy had the Internet. That's correct.
The Internet was barely going on. There was no social media. It
isn't an interesting time to look. I still read newspapers. People barely had
cell phones. A lot of people didn't have cell phones still in two thousand,
believe they're not. Newspapers still existed. There's a lot of different things.
I think I got my first cellphone in like two thousand, and I
know I would think I was still I was still at USA today, So
I must have got my first cell phone in like oh three or oh four.
I got mine, I believe in ninety nine or two thousand, right
around this time, but most people did not have them, and there was
no Netflix. There was no Amazon, believe it or not. In two
thousand and there was no Zone. It has been a while. It has
been a while, all right. So with that we have given you a
bunch of people. We remind you again the bet Us Boxing Show will be
coming your way live on Friday, depending on when you're hearing us now,
we release overnight Thursday. In a Friday live Friday ten Pacific, one Eastern.
You will see us and hear us on the bet Us Boxing Show handicap
Spence and Crawford and make some picks. Rayfield is already cavetching. I'll put
that word out there. Good work, because you're going I don't know who
to pick. I don't know. I mean, I'm listening, here's the
bottle. I understand that when people are gonna listen to this, but I
got I know, I got to make my pick by ten. Ampathis exactly
well. I actually got to do it earlier because we got to let our
people meet pick the graphics. But I honestly have not made my pick yet.
But haven't that good of a fight that we're going back and forth on
who's going to win it. So we will make the picks on the bet
I was five and you were. You're on a heater right now, if
you will. So we're looking forward to seeing what's gonna happen with this one.
We'll we'll preview it more and handicap it on the bet US Boxing Show
live on their platforms, YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, et cetera, ten
Pacific time. And then after all of this is over, whoever's hand is
raised, whoever is undisputed, and whatever happens in the team arena for this
fight and the underfil draw. You were saying to me in the press conference.
You were mumbling, and I didn't know because you typically don't mumble to
yourself, but you were mumbling to yourself, and I said, what are
you talking about? And you said, draw. You said this could be
a draw. I think you really could. You may pick a draw.
Stay tuned on the bet US Boxing Show. That could have don think I'll
actually do that, but it lends itself to the possibility. I think the
draw the draw prop was I think I saw it before, something like plus
four hundred and plus five hundred. You get like five to one odds on
a draw because it's that much of at we'll see in any event, whatever
happens. When it's done, we're gonna be back with a fight for each
to night recap off the weekend on this very podcast feed as we come your
way from Vegas. We'll be in there to witness it at the T Mobile
Arena, and we're gonna talk all about it and the undercard and everything that
goes on after it is over. In the meantime, make sure you're following.
Make sure you're subscribing here as part of the Big Fight Weekend podcast feed,
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to rate us and review us. Take a screenshot of it. We're gonna
draw us somebody to win an item from this fight, either a fight poster
Spence Crawford, a fight program, maybe both. We might draw two people.
Stay tuned for that. So that is coming off the weekend when everything
is done for the month of July. Take a picture that reading interview,
send it in. We'll draw somebody at random with that. Here we Here
we go, Here we go. The next time I talk to you on
this podcast feed, we'll know who win. We'll know who won Spence and
Crawford. So we're looking forward to everything that's gonna go on, Dan Raphael,
thank you as always, we appreciate it. Go get some rest.
I don't need a rest. I'm gonna do the same thing after being hello,
immedia. Let's not some air, I know, some ventilation. Would
you rather be outside where we could be a walk with vegetables. I'd rather
be in like the ab ballroom at the MGM. I understand, but we're
making it work. Here we go. Let's just be on. It is
our first world problem, the guys these are, but we got it done.
My thanks also in yours as well to Sean Horter, the former two
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