My name is Jason vic I live in Saint Paul, Minnesota. I'm forty
four years old. I'm a backpacker outdoorsman. I love the outdoors. I
have many hobbies that are connected to my careers. And my very first encounter
was back when I was about four years old. I was living in a
small apartment in the projects with my mother. I was a very little child,
so I decided that night that I was nervous and I was going to
spend the night in my mother's bed. But I was laying there. I
had gone to sleep, and for me, I had felt that I had
woken up in the morning, and I'm guessing it was morning because the sunlight
was starting to come in. I could tell that it wasn't very cloudy.
I mean, it was so surreal because the sun was coming in. It
was like I could tell every detail in the room. And I was laying
on the left side. And this is where it gets really strange. Laying
there knowing the sun was coming in. I remember every detail. Now that
I'm forty four, I remember every detail as if it was yesterday. And
that's why it feels so very real for me. Laying there, I looked
over my left arm, and I saw this what I could only imagine it
to be was and this work it gets crazy, is like, oh my
gosh, it's so hard to say, like a demonic wolf. And it
came out from underneath the bed, and I remember its face. It was
brown, It was complete full of hair, as if you were looking at
a dog, but with a very demonic demeanor. The eyes rare yellow,
the nose was black, and all it had was was kind of a oh,
what would you say, kind of a snarl, very white, jagged
teeth, and it just it was very brief. It reached over and it
scraped my left arm. And that's where it gets really strange, because for
a I would say, oh gosh, a few weeks I actually had a
scratch on my left arm. And I remember every detail as if it was
yesterday. This demonic dog like creature is coming over the left side of the
bed and it just wants to scratch my arm, and the sun's coming in.
My mom is asleep, and that's where it ends. It disappears,
it goes into just complete nothing. And I have no other memory of that
morning besides that, but being forty four and looking back and seeing myself as
a four year old child. It's one of the very first memories I've ever
had. I don't have a lot of memories as a child because I grew
up in a very, very abusive and horrible childhood. But the crazy part
is that I can remember that day, that morning as if it was yesterday
now that I'm forty four, remembering for a four year old child, and
that is what it's absolutely astonishing for me. So that was my very first
dog man encounter. Was a flesh and blood? Was it completely spiritual?
Well just imagine, I mean, it comes over the bed, it disappears,
so you know, you'd be the judge as far as you know.
Was a paranormal? Was it supernatural? Was a pre natural? Was it
demonic? I can tell you right now that I was absolutely afraid. I
was terrified being a four year old kid seeing these type of things. It
was absolutely a nightmare. It was my very first experience, but it was
an absolute nightmare. And to this day, remembering all the details tells me
that it was something that was completely substantial, something that was completely real,
And there's just I wouldn't know how to discredit it. As far as my
very first experience. Now going into my second experience, now that I'm living
in a certain apartment here that I lived in for almost ten years here in
Saint Paul, Minnesota. I had two dogs, Gabriel and Kaija. They
have passed away as about two and a half years ago this encounter happened.
I would say it's twenty twenty three, so I'm guessing that this encounter happened
back in Oh gosh, I think it was like twenty nineteen something like that.
I had two boys, two boy pit bulls, Like I said,
Gabriel and Kaija, very big pit bulls. They were one hundred and ten
pounds apiece, big boys. But they were also my medical service dogs.
I had trained them and I made them my medical service dogs, and that's
the reason why they could live with me in my apartment. Anyways, my
boy Gabriel was the biggest of them. He was one hundred and ten Kaija
was ninety eight pounds. But he was a big boy. But he was
also a very sensitive boy. And I would get in later in our talk
about paranormal experiences, but he could always tell when something almost paranormal was happening.
He would react in a certain way. That we'll get into later.
But I was taking my boys to go potty. So basically I had it,
you know, go out my door, I take the elevator down,
and go out the back of the building. So we took the elevator down.
We're going out to the back of the building. Now it was nighttime.
It was very dark outside. I lived right next to a major highway,
which is literally zones throwaway. I'm guessing about the entrance ramp for the
highways about gosh from where we were, I'd say about maybe seventy eighty feet
away, and it goes right on down. It's a right hand entrance,
and then it goes on too Highway ninety four, which runs right through Minnesota.
And it was dark out, but there were street lamps. There is
a road. There's the on ramp, but there's also a road that runs
east and west, and we were facing south looking into the road. We
had come downstairs, we're outside, we're facing that direction and my boy Gabriel
turns to the right and I'm like, let's go potty. Come on,
yo, hey, let's go to the bathroom, Like come on, let's
go, guys, but he wouldn't move. I was jerking the leash,
and I noticed he's not moving. Now, my boy Kaiser is kind of
just meandering about on the leash. I had extender leashes which allowed the dog
to go up to thirteen feet, but Gabriel was locked looking to our right.
So he's looking west. And basically it's a large yard, no fences
or anything like that, but it's it's a large yard next to the building.
And if you look about eighty ninety yards in that direction, you're just
going to come into some houses and a fence. He's locked in that direction,
and when you look down there, it looks dark, so it doesn't
look like a yard that's completely lit up. Now there are lights. Part
of the yard is lit up, but that part of the yard is dark
because there are no lights at the very end of that part of the yard,
just just a fence and some houses. I look over in that direction
and Gabe went into his pit bull stance, chest out, legs centered,
just ready to take on whatever is going on in that direction. I look
downward and I see this black shape. Now to kind of give you some
kind of idea what this black shape look like. This is where it gets
difficult because a second I saw it. It took off. It moved with
preternatural speed, a speed that you just you can't attribute to anything that's natural
or to anything that you could associate with as far as animals in our animal
kingdom, or a bird or anything. And to give you an idea of
that shape, here on Vic's channel, the opening credits, there's that picture
of the werewolf with a muscular body, the muscular legs. You know,
you got that long thigh leg going into the bottom part of the leg.
And what I saw was whatever it was, what was a solid black shape.
But the blackness literally looked like I was looking into a black void.
I saw no details, I saw no fur, I didn't see any details
whatsoever except for it like a black void. And then the overall shape.
And what I would say, you know what we think about when we think
about werewolves, like from the movie Underworld, just the long legs, the
muscular body. But now seeing it as a black shape, I saw it
go from left to right and it took off with speed I can't even imagine
it. It was so quick, but it left an impression in my mind
that I can't forget. I just saw the legs shoot out and the body
moved forward. The legs I saw for I would say about one one thousand
and two, one thousand, three, one thousand, I would say about
three or four seconds, and it just took off from left to right and
then disappeared behind the building. Now it didn't look like a physical, flesh
and blood body. It just looked like a black, voided shape. But
the shape was defined, but the details were not. And that was my
second encounter. And like I said, my boy Gabriel, my big tan
colored pitball, he was always very sensitive to this stuff. And whenever we'd
go outside, I would say about seventy to eighty five percent of the time
he would look in that direction. Even before that encounter, he would look
in that direction and he would wonder, like what am I staying over there?
He just had a look on his face, like what's going on over
there? I need to protect my owner, Jason, I need to protect
all of us, And he would just look in that direction and just want
to completely protect us. He wanted to completely just just get in between whatever
was in that direction and us. In most days, you know, we'd
go potty and we'd go about our business back there, but there would be
times where he would just lock into position, eyes locked in that direction and
he just wouldn't move until, you know, after several minutes of just urging
him to go. So that was my second encounter and my third encounter leading
up to four here. My third encounter, it was again at night.
I was with my best friend Samus Josh. He lives on the fourth floor
of my building. I live on the third floor. We're both outdoors and
we're backpackers where hikers were bushcrafters, And just to give you an idea,
we live in the inner city, so we live in the ghettos of the
inner city of Saint Paul, so us being a doorsment, bushcrafters, backpackers,
all that stuff, YadA YadA. We are kind of a rare bunch.
And when I get into more about me, you'll kind of see why
it might be a little bit rare to be what we are, especially in
this area. We're kind of the only ones. But we were going to
go for a walk down by the Mississippi River where we go a lot.
We have like a little campfire. We have a little metal stove that we
can set up and you put wood inside of it and you can make yourself
like a little fire, because of course we don't want to have a big
bondfire in the middle of the city, but we have like a little concentrated
fire. Well, we drive over to Minneapolis, which is west of Saint
Paul. We live in the Twin Cities, so they're Saint Paul in Minneapolis.
That's call the Twin Cities. And Minneapolis is about all i'd say,
about ten fifteen minutes from where we live. And we would go through downtown
and go to a certain area to go and walk down by the river.
We park our car. It's I would guess it's about I think it was
about nine ten o'clock. You know, we're kind of night alls, so
we go out late. We parked the car, we walked down a hill
and we get on this paved path that you could bicycle on, you can
walk on, and it meanders through kind of like a city park. So
we meander through this path and we get to the river and we decide to
have a campfire in our little concentrated stove. And I would say it was
about oh gosh, maybe yeah, I think it was about April April or
May. So we know that the snow was starting to melt. You know,
we have our camp fire. It's facing the river, and we're just
slightly off the pavement of the path and we're sitting on a bench. There's
like a little bench there which makes it easy just to sit in front of
a fire. Well, I guess it was about one or two o'clock in
the morning and we decided to go home, so we shut everything down,
we break camp, so to speak. We put our backpacks back on,
and we decided to take the path back to the car. Well, this
is going to lead up into our two experiences because we had them together.
We were taking the path back to the car, and off to the right
of the path, to the right of us is kind of a woodsy area,
and then off to the left of us is the Mississippi River and there's
really nowhere to go beside just going straight into the river. Well, off
to the right is like I said, the woods. But on the path
as we were walking, as we walked about five or six minutes, and
there was blotches of snow on the path. And you know, to be
honest, that late at night, I don't know how we noticed it,
but maybe that's the whole point that we did notice it, like it was
that substantial. We looked down on the ground. We had head lamps on,
but there's still the light coming off the river. I got the moon.
There's a police stage where they trained canine dogs right across the river,
so they had huge standing lights and all that kind of jazz. So it
is kind of lit up a little bit. It isn't pitch black. And
we noticed in the snow there was a blotch of snow I would say about
a couple of feet wide. And then the rest of us pavement we noticed
two tracks. This is key two tracks. So we looked down at the
track and what we see captivated us I would say for about twenty or twenty
five minutes. I mean it really captivated us. We looked down and we
see this dog print. I mean, if you want to call it that,
but we see this dog print that was absolutely huge, mongous like it.
It was the biggest thing we've ever seen. We did not see four.
We saw two, two right next to each other. We see the
general pad of the dog print, and we see you've got the toenails.
Like I said, an average dog print, except this wasn't averag in size.
It was gigantic. We thought to ourselves, Okay, what could this
be because at this time we're not thinking dog man. That would have been
the furthest thing from our mind at that point. We're looking down at this
print and through our minds, we're talking to each other. Through our minds,
we're thinking, like, what can this be, Like we had to
get answers, Like it was that big of a print that we had to
get answers. We're thinking, okay, great Dane Irish wolfhound mastiff, and
we keep saying, no, it's still too big, it's still too big.
Then we're thinking Bobcat because bobcat prints their paws are kind of snowshoe paws,
so they can walk on top of the snow. And we're thinking,
but it doesn't look like a cat print, a wolf print. No,
too big. So anyways, we go through about a thousand different animals in
our brain and we could not figure out at all what it was. It
was just the largest dog print on the face of this planet. And like
I said, we saw two next to each other. We did not see
four. And there was room to see four prints because it was there was
that huge section of snuff. It would have been a dog. You would
have seen four prints. No, we saw it too, and like I
said, it captivated us for about twenty or twenty five minutes. Finally we're
just like, we don't know, let's just go home. But we talk
about it every now and then we talk about it. We reminisce about it,
like now that we know about dog men more. I've always been into
all this kind of stuff, but now that we're really into this stuff,
both me and Josh, I remember, we're really into this stuff. I'm
more of a believer than he is. He's more of a skeptic. He's
more I'm not going to one hundred percent believe until I see it myself.
At least that's what he tells me. But he believes, and I know
for me, I believe. Like I said, I've had my own encounters,
you know, and everybody else who's had encounters. I think you'd have
to be a fool not to believe. Too much has happened, and you
get to a point where so much has happened that you just how do you
keep denying it at that point? Like how do you keep saying no,
No, it can't be how do you get to that place? So we
talk about those prints and all that kind of stuff still to these days.
Well that leads into the fourth encounter that we have, which it was in
the same area there were the prints. This was about a year later.
We're walking on that path once again. It's about one two three in the
morning. We're walking that path to go back home. Like I said,
that was where we had the fire. We're next to the river. There's
the police canine training area across the river. So we're taking that same path
a year later back to the car. And this is where it gets strange.
It's quick, it doesn't last long, but it happens. We're walking
the path and all of a sudden we hear a rustling off to our rights.
And like I was mentioning before, if you go off right to the
path, it's kind of like sections of woods. You got your trees,
you got your bushes, you got your branches, you got your growing plants.
But in that particular section of the trail it's almost pitched black except for
our headlamps. So we're walking down the path and we hear something off to
the right. We stop. You know, we're thinking, okay, oh,
maybe it's a deer, maybe it's a raccoon, who knows whatever.
So we look off to the right. But here's where it gets crazy.
Is that closest to me. I look off to my right, and I
would say about five six feet off to my right, I'm looking at two
sets of eyeshine, and I would say the one set of eyeshine was the
tallest eyeshine that I saw was taller than me. I'm guessing it was about
I'm six foot, just under six foot one. Josh, you're six ft
two. We look over and it's taller than both of us, but not
by much, just a little bit taller than us. And then the second
set of eyeshine was just a few inches below that. So I'm guessing the
tallest one was probably about six five six six, and the shortest one was
about oh, i'd say about maybe five eleven maybe six foot, but I'm
guessing maybe more like five to eleven. But we look off to the right,
we see the two sets of eyeshine, and Josh is like, oh,
maybe it's dear, and I'm like, are you serious? And I'm
looking at I'm looking at these things, and and then in that instant,
like like if you just want to snap your fingers. In that instant,
I felt this overwhelming sense of fear. I felt this overwhelming sense of just
leave, get out of here, go, go go. I started praying
for strengths, Like I said, this is happening all the blank of an
eye. I'm not saying anything out loud, just internally, I'm like,
whatever this is, whatever these feelings are, I'm praying them kind of a
way to just to be strong because I don't know what I'm looking at.
But it kind of crosses my mind like this isn't normal, this isn't right,
this isn't natural, and I'm feeling sense of fear and like I need
to get out of here. Well, we're looking at this eyeshine, and
this eyeshine didn't seem to react like deer. This eyeshine was like penetrating and
it was staring right at us, and whatever was there, it was not
moving. It was not moving at all. It was like it was just
locked there. I mean, you think about deer, and you know,
we're two big guys. I'm muscular about six foot, about two hundred and
fifty pounds. Josh is six two, and we both got our backpacks on
larger backpacks. We got gear with us, we got our head lamps,
you know, and we're talking out loud. We both have loud voices,
and whatever this is, it's not going away. It's just staring at us
with a penetrative stare. Like I said at last, just in that moment,
and I'm like, Josh, let's just get out of here, let's
just go. Well, the eyeshine stayed there, kept looking at us,
and I kept looking over my shoulder and it was just watching us. And
we just continued on the trail. And to this day, me and Josh
we have our talks about that eyeshine and now that we know more about dog
men and I'm more into all this stuff at this point. It does raise
the question, like what were we staring at? What was that feeling of
overwhelming fear, thinking like we need to get out of here when we see
Dear? Do we have those feelings when we see Dear? Do we feel
like absolutely terrified and afraid and like we need to get out of here.
And I'll get into later about those feelings of fear that washes over us later
in the show, but yeah, that was it. We walked home.
To this day we talk about it. My friend Josh thinks he wants to
feel that it's dear because I just honestly, I think he just can't come
to terms with maybe it being something else. But my experiences weren't like I'm
seeing this big, crazy creature chasing us down a trail, attacking us,
chomping us jaws. My experience goes a lot deeper than that. I would
like to help people with these experiences because of what goes back, like when
I mentioned in experience I had when I was four years old, when whatever
that was, that demonic being or whatever you want to call it, came
over the bed and scratched my arm. From that moment on, I was
having spiritual experiences so severe that the older I got, the more severe they
got. And I would like to help people with their trauma and their experiences
because I feel that it changes people's lives when they have these experiences, or
when they have any kind of paranormal experience, and maybe it's not dogment per
se, maybe it's a paranormal experience or supernatural experience that they suffer in their
life where they might need support, they might need someone just to listen and
to accept what they have to say. Something to to be somebody who's just
going to be on their side, someone who's not going to laugh at them,
judge them, condemn them, but someone to just be a peer support.
I'm not a psychologist. I'm a social worker, but I'm a good
listener. I like to believe that I'm intelligent, and i'd like to believe
that, you know, I've got some wisdom to offer. I just want
to help people. After my car accident where I broke my back, I
got hooked on my pain pills and I had to go into rehab to get
off those pain pills. I wasn't scoring on the street, but my pain
doctor was prescribing absolute crazy amounts and crazy dosages of pain pills. Long story
short, I had to go into rehab to get off the pain pills correctly.
I learned in rehab that my purpose in life was to serve people,
was to be of service and with all the experiences, because I mean,
I talked about my dogment experiences, but that's nothing compared to my paranormal and
supernatural experiences, especially when it comes to the demonic or what I would call
the demonic My experiences are absolutely intense and many, many, many of them,
and I would like to help people with any of that. I've done
so much in that realm, in that particular area of focus, that I
would like to be that person for somebody else that would listen, not judge,
not condemned, would help, just be a complete supporting factor, and
not to support and listen, but give them the tools and to give them,
let's just call them weapons and shields to defend themselves and to go on
the attack against these things, whether it's dog men, paranormal, demonic,
I mean, whatever, I mean, they're all kind of the same thing.
At least that's what I believe. But for anybody who would like to
reach me, VIC is going to leave a link to my Facebook account where
you can contact me about anything dogmen or paranormal, any type of experience you've
had that may be troubling, or something that's related to the show, or
any experience. You'll leave a link to my Facebook account and we'll go from
there. So I appreciate everybody who's listened to me tonight. It's been an
absolute honor, and I hope to be of service and to be of help
and Just check out that link and we'll talk, hopefully sometime soon. I
appreciate it, Thank you,