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Podcast is already a mainstream thing.
We could say and the point has come

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that even the image or podcast format
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there really being a podcast behind it
and even to launch rather critical messages.

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Now I tell you we welcome you
to the other side of the microphone.

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On the other side of the microphone, a project by Jorge Marín grandson in

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which you will find your daily ration
of metapodcasting, casting with news, events,

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tools or episodes of opinion in just
ten minutes. Ten minutes, ten

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minutes. Today is June 7th of
the twenty- four thousand and it is

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a perfect day to explore together another
aspect of the podcasting that surrounds me and

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that I hope you will too.
I am Jorge Marín, and every day

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in just ten fifteen minutes. I
offer you a new ration of metapodcasting with

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news, events, curiosities, episodes
of opinion and, as I commented,

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anything related to podcasting that affects me
to a greater or lesser extent every Friday.

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I usually do a chapter of opinion
to get off my chest a little

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bit. They are usually the chapters
that I like most through the polls I

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do on telegram, and this one
I' ve been thinking about for a

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few months now. It' s
even true, it' s not the

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first time I' m talking about
this topic, but lately it' s

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being reflected more and more, and
it' s the use that' s

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made of podcast format or the appearance
of podcast as a postureo to appear something

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that' s not to appear to
have that audience, to look like you

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' ve got a lot of people
behind you to look like you have a

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podcast, without it even being true. This is being seen more and more

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lately. I already say in advertising
environments, in social media cuts and although

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it has already been commented that there
were in several podcasts or supposed podcasts that

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had gone viral, without even having
podcasts behind to say claim audience on social

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networks, creating gt twitter switch cuts
controversial so that they went viral and people

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no matter how bad they were,
but they had a very wide reach on

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social networks. This happened about a
year ago or something with a Mexican podcast.

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Here, in Spain we have also
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' s say that something is not
done so brazen, but that something more

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veiled is made of the use of
the image of the podcast format, of

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the use of the format could dedicate
another episode of opinion, but well,

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perhaps my opinion would be quite different. You can use podcast format for whatever

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you want, to attract audience,
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personal brand, whatever you want.
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or the podcasting itself, and I
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video podcast, not the fact of
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either to a greater extent with many
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exclusive platform. Well, she doesn' t mess with me, but you

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' re doing a podcast something I
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you don' t even have a
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to have a podcast to use this
concept of me I have a podcast.

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People listen to me. That'
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tell you next is important because there
are people who are listening to me behind,

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because I stand in front of a
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This reminds me a lot of the
pike phrase that was put on, fashionable

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that they have already realized that perhaps
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used by many influencers, or many
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on Instagram and on tiktok. With
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many you ask me there was really
no one asking what you' re saying

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here, you' re talking to
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' re alone with your mobile phone. No one' s written to you.

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It' s a way of saying
woe. People are watching what I

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say. So you, now that
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real one or this sor or whatever
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re going to pay attention to me, or you have to pay attention to

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me, because with the podcast something
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the image is adapting, or let' s say the ecosystem that surrounds the

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podcast and the world of streamers to
make false ads, to leak rather critical

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messages. And this, honestly,
makes me angry. It makes me angry

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because now that we have finally managed
not to have to explain on every occasion

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what a podcast is and what you
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narrative podcast. Everything we know behind
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I' ve found myself. I
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I have already met on several occasions
with advertisements or declare on some social networks

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that they are camouflaged from podcasts when
in reality they are not. That aesthetic

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use of me has a microphone ahead
of me. I turn not to talk

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to camera, but to turn because
I am talking to someone who here I

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am making quotes, because in reality
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are alone in your studio or wherever, you are recording and you are not

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talking to someone, you are not
explaining to someone else your ideas, you

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are not talking about your product to
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you have a podcast and you have
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In the case of streamers, although
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differs because they usually look at the
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that is live, they are not
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which is much more. Let'
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pretending to be streaming that aesthetic with
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m saying because they' re looking
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much more relaxed. We don'
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or not just to look like a
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it seems like we' re recording
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not be. He said that I
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bring to you today, such as
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a table and they did have two
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that were actually pointing at them.
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forehead or even above the forehead,
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to capture his voice, but it' s just that the microphones weren'

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t even plugged in. This I
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ago. I' ll see if
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' s already served as an example
and from here. So do this episode

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I bring you today or another example
of a TV ad. Watch this I

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don' t want to advertise,
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I think you' ll all know
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who lived in Spain, because it' s quite famous where a journalist

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or television presenter who was talking in
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of this brand of Yogurts that I
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TV ad, make a TV ad, but in that TV ad you have

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to look like you' re doing
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pantomime. Don' t be ridiculous
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' t be here, she won' t have any decision and it'

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ll be a whole script designed by
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But as with the previous example of
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financial investment course that didn' t
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this scene that I found in Yogurt' s ad, the first thing they

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put on this protagonist because it was
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in fact, but the best known
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placed, or the others were a
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other people in front of her who
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They were much more out of place. I mean, it was impossible for

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these four people to be recording a
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of each other. One of the
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in the Chamber. The soldiers were
out of focus, et cetera, et

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cetera, et cetera. They were
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of mic on the table. Yes, because I talked about it with Carlos

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Betés, who could even be a
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ro de potmix. I don'
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two fairly common road or rode microphones
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started to discuss and thought about.
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pole microphone or with well- disguised
flap microphones so that they don' t

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look at each other for what you
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precisely what I am telling you to
pretend that they are recording a podcast,

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to appear to be spoken to by
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have otroidea, when you are actually
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yogurt ad. Don' t use
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t. It' s a pantomime. Anyway, another announcement I' ve

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seen recently and this one is already
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brazen, because they only use this
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A lot of a podcasting a streamer
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of the YouTube ads, where a
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podcast companion looking to the left or
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the Chamber talking about a new course
that he has discovered and immediately, they

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start to put images of resources or
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And here only at the beginning of
the video and you' ll say this

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well, Jorge, why it pisses
you off good to see it pisses me

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off, because I' m a
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people start seeing podcasting like something like
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as a showcase, like the podcast
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it' s making TV dishes or
using football pitches for detergent ads because the

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boy, the girl has banged and
it' s been stained personally. I

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think in a football lover, because
this will also bother him a little why

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you put a football game to advertise
your detergent, in this case, so

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that you put a podcast studio to
advertise yogurts. It gives me anger,

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it gives me anger and, above
all, it gives me much more anger

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when podcasting is used to send messages, to pass messages that I think increase

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the toxicity of our society. I' ll explain. I' m going

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to put now a cut of David
Pareja, a humorous presenter, comedian,

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screenwriter, etc, etc, etc, with whom I ran into a couple

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of months ago and who talks about
machismo in podcasts, on social networks,

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on the Internet in general, but
precisely in the first few seconds of this

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sketch that he published on social networks
he defines perfectly all this of what I

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' ve been talking about now,
but he focuses more specifically on the machismo

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messages that are sneaking into supposed podcasts
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seen precisely in these messages and now
I explain why this has my going.

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How a good woman should be.
Men of value like very feminine women,

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because lately I see more and more
men of Judest. The woman is very

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feminine, very feminine and feminine is
female fevenience and it happens more and more

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that they say it. Just like
looking aside with a microphone ahead, like

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they' re in a podcast that
doesn' t really exist. I guess

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for your opinion to seem more important
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you have to make more home to
a man with a microphone. But what

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it' s like to be female. You know what they never explain what

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it means to be female is to
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pants. You can be female.
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I haven' t put the whole
cut because it' s not flat,

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apart from I didn' t ask
permission just steal from a few seconds so

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you can see that supposed podcast that
many of these people do to say promote

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their messages. And this is actually
becoming something much more dangerous. The subject

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of machismo and how they use or
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It is macho, but it is
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made in many podcasts and here and
so I talk about podcasts to get cuts

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on social networks, but precisely the
very messages that they launch in their podcasts,

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because these are really podcasts made by
young men who affect children, even

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young enough young people. I don' t know if the difference between preteens,

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teenage men who don' t have
two fingers in front and who are

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influenced by messages so harmful to our
society, so harmful to women, so

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harmful to podcasting itself. It'
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do it anymore It' s that
here I' m really energizing about the

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advertising use for podcasting as an atrium
made me mosquitoy, I don' t

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like it, but I can get
to understand it. But to pass machista

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messages blurring it like a podcast where
a lot of people listen to you,

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who actually listen to a lot of
people, because what they do is capture

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these messages in small excerpts and sneak
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We commented at the beginning. That' s where I see the problem.

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And I see a problem because I, personally, don' t want to

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debate whether I' m a feminist, whether I' m a sexist,

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or not. That is not my
debate, my debate today. I can

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just go to any other show and
argue about this. But the problem I

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see with all this is that my
daughters, my little daughters, are going

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to find messages like this on social
networks early on. At the moment they

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are not users of social networks.
I want to teach them, I want

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to make them grow up in a
just, free society, especially egalitarian,

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for men and women and not be
influenced by messages like this and that the

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men they meet in their lives are
not influenced by messages like these. Because

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personally, for me, I consider
them sexist, toxic, harmful and that

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I would not have to say,
eliminate, not learn, learn from how

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things are not done lately. Besides, you' re seeing a cult of

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a person I' m not even
going to name to give you any more

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publicity. But I think many of
you will know here I mean with this

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stuff about the barpices, the belly, the librarians, etcetera, etcetera,

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etcetera. I' m sure many
of you know who it is and if

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you don' t ask me for
private, but here I don' t

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intend to say it and I think
that these kinds of messages are causing damage

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to our society and more specifically to
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root, but if we fight,
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this episode. I' ll leave
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to leave several links in today'
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I have been collecting examples of these
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followed by this David Couple sketch,
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country article that is titled as follows, The Project Man. The defense of

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conservative masculinity floods the podcasts and here
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but quite a few examples of what
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women who also promote it. I
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machismo, that also but the most
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young, much younger. I'
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there' s a particular picture,
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how old this kid is, but
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There are already many podcasts about this, even twelve. I dare say I

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see another one around here about toxic
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that I' m running short of
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s really horrible, horrible that the
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that I' m a faithful advocate
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they want and express their opinions and
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so forth. But the use that
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I think the worst thing about the
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people are looking for and because of
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money, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And, if they do it with

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messages as dangerous as those that appear
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before they grow up, that they
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to this, because I think I
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not going to say what I think, but am I very sorry that we

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' ve gone back so far in
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back so far in some respects and
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say things like those that are said
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' t get involved anymore. I
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opinion about the use, misuse of
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etc, etc, etc, that
you have a great weekend full of

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podcasts that do not promote messages like
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not say yes or no, but
do not do it, do not do

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it, because it is a pity. I believe that many of you will

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already be adults and mature enough to
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you see practices like this. But, well, it' s not bad,

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it' s no more sorry to
bring them here to report or point

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out when you misuse podcast, podcasting
or social media, etcetera, etcetera,

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etcetera, that you enjoy the weekend
and don' t forget to enter the

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telegram channel that you can access through
the other side of the microphone. Com

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bar telegram delegrace there tomorrow, tomorrow
Saturday you will meet with the Not the

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last survey of the season, but
yes the last survey of the season that

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will have validity for the review that
I make of the best episodes. What

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will you do, rather, of
the best episodes or at least of the

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most voted episodes next week, because
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the season. This is chapter nine
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episode I' m preparing something a
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really like to celebrate the round chapters
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more special than what I' m
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illusion to offer you this chapter because
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Not a thousand episodes appear every day, not even every year, and

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I want to do something special,
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for podcasting in general, and something
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just as it has happened with the
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I want to offer you something special, but good thing I' m

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getting involved. Please do the telegram
channel to respond to the survey of the

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best episodes of this week and next
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nine touches review of statistics, chapter
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chapter. I' ll go over
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ll review Monday' s podcast of
the season, review goals for jobs and

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everything achieved throughout this fifth season.
It will be five years since next August

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that I recorded this daily podcast,
five years that I stopped smoking and hear,

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five years that I have you on
this side of the microphone next to

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me, because every time I record
I feel you very, very close to

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real. Thank you so much for
following the other side one more day,

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one more week and one more season. My God, five years I'

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ve touched you and now I say
goodbye and as every day I go back

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to that place where you are right
now, across the microphone,