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The Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like you

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Yeah and now Grated Noise and Omdia. Thirty first day of May. Hey,

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there are thirty one days in May, allegedly according to that thing we

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call a calendar, twenty twenty four. And this is the O'Kelly effect.

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And we're live on a Friarsday.
Now. I was live on Thursday.

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I did run some stuff on Wednesday. I had a planned guest for Tuesday

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that didn't show up. I still
haven't found out why. But things are

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flowing anyway. It's Friday night,
and if you're hearing us live, and

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that does mean just let's see,
it's about twelve minutes after eight pm because

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I went late to the stream.
So we're gonna run the show a little

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late tonight, but not too much
unless I get some participation, how about

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that? So if we get more
calls, if we get some donations,

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I will keep the show going.
If you guys want to talk, I'm

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already dreading the discussion that we're probably
gonna have to have because uh, yesterday's

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news, right, Okay, I'll
leave it at that. We'll hear more

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about it later and you'll hear more
about lots of stuff later. I'm sure

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I don't know what people are gonna
say or if they're gonna bother to call

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in, But we're here three one
nine, five, two seven, five

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zero one six three one nine five
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I didn't even put out the pre
show posts on social media to tell people

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that we're gonna be live. But
come on, man, it's already up

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there. Friday nights, we do
this every Friday. I try to make

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sure we get to this show as
long as I got internet, even if

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my co hosts can't show up,
I try and do this. I don't

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think we've skipped more than a couple
of shows in the past three years that

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I can think of. I mean, well, I guess there was one

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I had to skip when I went
to Dallas, and what else I don't

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I don't think i've skipped a Friday
night call in now and at least three

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four years, bet Pete, when
was the last time we skipped a show

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outside of being on the road to
Dallas. It's I don't know. I'm

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trying to think, now, when
did you have your last episode with headaches?

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Well? I had know we missed
one. I think in there,

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well, I was cripp what a
year ago maybe, but I mean I

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was crippled like a year and a
half ago, Like I couldn't even keep

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my head up, and there was
no way I could produce or nothing.

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I mean. But other than that, I mean, there was one time

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where I had internet connections that went
out right, and I missed that one.

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But other than that, it's not
We're usually here Friday nights. I

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mean, look very rare. You
bounced on one show because of internet outage,

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and then you had to go to
work one night, and you said

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it was sick one night. Yeah
yeah, or okay, you were sick

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one night. But I'm just saying, if you think about it, you

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could think of maybe five instances in
five years. We didn't show up in

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many at all. You count them
on one hand. Because when I was

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sick was after we got back from
Dallas. Remember oh right, yeah,

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because we were all sick. Yeah, that's why the whole damn hotel was

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sick. I think, yeah,
well we were all mad because remember the

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well, and we pointed out remember
the guy who came by. I think

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I'm too sick to be here.
But I wanted to come by and cough

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and breathe on you. I wanted
to share it with the crowd. I

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figured I might as well drop this
off with you before I leave. I

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almost thought we all caught coron ties
to China. Maybe he was, you

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know, maybe maybe he was an
agent of the Biden campaign trying to get

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you. What do you think did
DeNiro send him? Probably one of my

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ex wives. See, now that's
way more likely. I could definitely see

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one of my ex well, my
my only ex wife. Actually got one

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ex wife. They're both dead,
but one of them died while married to

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me, and one of them I
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But they're family. One of their
families would not be beyond sending somebody

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to go cough some horrible stuff on
me. I'm sure I'll never forget.

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We had a guy that worked with
us, and it was a Christmas party

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and invited to his wife and we're
all sitting around drinking a beer, seeping

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shit before we eat, and uh, it's something with some comment was made

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about which one of them would go
first, and she made some comment to

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her husband. She goes, yeah, I know. A week after I'm

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gone, you'll have some young blonde
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laughing, and we all looked at
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or you can't beat the party,
won't be over with by them. Yeah,

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Kim tries to say that stuff all
the time. I know, you'll

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have a woman in here in like
a couple of days. I'm like,

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where am I getting that from?
Uh? Really? Women? I don't

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know any women. I don't have
any friends. Where am I getting women

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from? Really? You don't let
me talk to women? How I'm supposed

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to get one up here? Jesus? Uh? When's the last time you

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see me talk to a woman?
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Well, my actually belonged to a
civic organization, so she would constantly

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want to go to their events,
and I'd go. And these people are

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about ten years younger than me.
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know. It's funny, but it's
like every female that showed up right,

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I couldn't send a load to them. I had to hear about it later.

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I'm going, like, why the
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if you're so jealous of all these
bad women that are members. I just

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don't get it. I don't understand
women will. That made me nuts when

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I was a musician, because if
I got to I would always try to

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get a girlfriend who really wasn't all
that interested in my music. And you

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know why, because this way they
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It would be like, no,
you go do that. I don't

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want to hear it, because otherwise
I'll sit there and somebody, inevitably this

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will happen, right, some female
will come up drunk and like I really

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liked your music, and I'll be
like, oh, yeah, thank you

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very much. You know I got
tapes over here. Why don't you buy

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a demo or a t shirt or
And I'm nice to them, right,

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and why because I want them to
buy something, right, And by the

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way, here's a flyer for our
next show. Come to our next show.

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And this is the course of doing
business now, even when dudes come

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over to me who were like,
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or you know your guitarist is awesome. Man? You know same thing,

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right, we'll go buy a tape. Dude. Here here's the flyer

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for the next show. Hey,
why don't you hang out with us?

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I would do that, and inevitably, if there was a woman with me

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that wanted to go to the shows, I would spend the next week hearing

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about it, you know, like
a bit you that woman that had you

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know, and she always remembered what
they were wearing. I didn't. I

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couldn't see nothing. I'm blind as
hell. They know this, and they're

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going, you know that woman that
was dressed just like this, like you

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like it? Right? Huh?
What? Like? I didn't even rememb

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remember who she's talking about. She's
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I go, well, okay,
I remember vaguely. Oh did I sell

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her tape? Oh? I got
one. I got one better than that.

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The that was part of her of
the ball team, you know,

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we had our box seats were right
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center. And this is an old
This is an old stadium that was built

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back I think in the thirties or
forties, if I'm not mistaken. Beautiful

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old architecture style stadium. And it
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about oh hell, not more than
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a ramp that went down to the
main concourse where all the souvenirs and you

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know, vending and all that was
going on. Right. So I was

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dating a girl at time work for
a newspaper. She was a reporter,

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and she was gone a lot,
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She came one night, She's sitting
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girls that I did, that I
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were friends of my brothers, or
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wasn't you know the town we were
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you know, so you know a
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said, there one night she noticed
all these women were coming up and talking

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to me, and then you know
about the eighth innut. She goes,

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you know, you've been real popular
tonight she's kind of getting a little jealous

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and all that. I said,
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All those women are stopping to say
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notice one thing about them? Your
reporters. They'll pick this out. She

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goes, what I said, they
all got a beer while they were here.

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I said, it's their boyfriends up
in the stands sending them down here

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because they know I get my beer
quicker than anybody else. All I got

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to do is tell one of nam
mushers, go get me three beers.

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They go get me three beers.
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no reason. Right, it's just
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one of those girls stop by here
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I either went to school with or
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So she just couldn't understand. She
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didn't know as many people as anybody
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several years. It was funny,
she gave me, l Plus,

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they're not gonna be this is the
most innocent thing in the world and just

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coming up here to get their beer
quicker instead of having to stand in line.

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Well, and that's more than just
the speed of the beer, because

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they're also not going to bring you
the water down cups that end up circulating,

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because after a while when they put
ice in that beer, right,

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you know, ours were never ice
now, no no, no, no,

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no, no, no no.
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I went to a minor league game, I believe me, it was like,

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try and figure out where they're not
selling you the ice down beers because

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if they do, it's going to
turn the watery beer by the time it

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gets around around a bit, right, those guys carry them around. So,

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pia, what was the last major
league team to get beer in their

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stadium? The last major league team
hmm, yeah, to get beer in

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their stadium and it was brought into
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the baseball team. Gonna guess Colorado, Nope, okay, Toronto Blue Jays.

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Toronto Blue Jays. Oh, they
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by La Bat's Brewery. That was
the funny thing. They didn't want to

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put beer in the ballpark because it
would look like Labat's was just trying to

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sell beer. So what they waited
for was Canadian Football League, the Toronto

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Argonauts. When they started their season, they got the license to put beer

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in the stadium, and then after
that it was there for all you know,

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anybody that used the venue, it
was right, So the facility is

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already there and even if they wanted
to hold a concert there while they got

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beer, right, Yeah, the
Bats at that time, it was like

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the number one beer you know in
that section of Canada at that time.

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That's odd. I didn't know the
Bat's was sold in Canada even really but

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okay, oh yeah, that's an
old, old Canadian brewery. See.

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I always think of Molson when I
think of Canada, you know, yeah,

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Moulson, Moosehead one. Yeah,
where was Carling? We're did Carling

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story? I don't have to look
that up anyway. What news have you

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caught up with this week? You
know, we've got the big event of

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yesterday when the world as we know
it ended? Oh God help us.

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Yeah, well there's that, right, and but better than that, I

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saw something here was kind of funny. Where is it this story? Let

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me see? Oh, COVID shots
during pregnancy can cause brain damage in offspring,

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according to a study. Well what
a shock. Also, I heard

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that you have an increased a chance
of death fifteen years after your shots.

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Now, so if you make it
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you break the bubble and you're it's
gonna be okay. Let me ask you

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a question about that, though,
because I would love to say yeah,

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yeah, yeah on that. But
here's the problem. It has hasn't been

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fifteen years since the shot. So
where is there empirical proof that you have

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a You see what I'm saying you
got to get from fifteen years away from

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that shot in order to say that
there is a trend that happened fifteen years

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away from that shot. Or am
I crazy? Or are they just doing

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the math and going, well,
they're making a projection. Let's see what

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is it? Are they making a
projection going like, look if we multiplied

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by ten a year and a half, Well, let's see, here's the

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story. Top expert war in facts
will keep dying, will keep dying up

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to fifteen years after COVID shots.
One of the world's leading cardiologists has issued

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a bone chilling warning to the public
that the COVID vaccination will remain at risk

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of dying from the fifteen years after
they received their last COVID mRNA shot.

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The acclaimed American doctor raised the alarm
over long term death the vaxed or in

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a news interview with Real America's Voice. Guy's name is McCullough. Let me

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go to this the parent story.
Oh, David mccollins slay news. Have

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you ever heard them? Yeah,
but David McCullough put that out. Let's

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see, let me get to the
main story. Oh hey, somebody pointed

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out that. Yeah, we got
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I think that was on a Wednesday
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was producing the Donald Jeffrey Show when
it happened. If I remember correctly,

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this is uh, doctor Peter McCullough
and v Peter. Yes, there we

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go, Peter or David right,
all right, so Peter, I get

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his sub stack all the time.
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I had that. He's from He's
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Southwestern, University of Michigan, Southern
Methodist. Anyway, that's just his

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page. I'll put a link to
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Yeah, definitely. Because somehow he's
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there. It doesn't I'm not sure
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generally, i'm supportive of McCullough's stuff, and that's why I subscribe to it

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and read it. And you know, I don't read everything, but he

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does put out podcasts. He's been
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shots were the new thing, I
mean since warp speed. Mccull has been

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out there right, Okay, he's
basing this he's. Mccullull was referencing a

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bomb sale report published published by the
US Food and Drug Administration's Center for Biological

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Evolution and Research. The document acknowledges
that gene therapy products they very well call

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side effects long after they've been administered. According to new scientific evidence, people

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could experience major health implications or death
between five and fifteen years after receiving an

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mRNA injection. Between five and fifteen
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says on page four. Now,
this is a quote from the FDA to

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Agency advice sponsors to observe subjects for
delayed adverse events for as long as fifteen

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years following exposure to the investigational GT
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include a minimum of five years of
annual examinations followed by ten years of annual

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careeries of study subjects, either in
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what he's I don't know he's taking
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these patients, as you could have
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don't know how he You know,
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the five years see generally, I
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generally supportive of Peter McCullough, and
he's usually right about a lot of stuff

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he says, and he has conversations
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mean, and he puts out a
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a problem with this when these guys
make these extrapolations and they don't have have

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all kinds of factors that are unknown
that could occur. I mean, a

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decade is, you know, in
a certain sense, not a very long

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period on a timeline, but it's
extremely long. Huh. Yeah, ten

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years is not long at all,
really well, but ten years in a

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lifespan of a person is significant.
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think about this, at any point
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timeline, bp't okay, and then
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and tell me that you know your
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are not significantly different in some way
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you've got to accept that there's a
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All right, I imagine that somebody
theoretically BP just bear with me a

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moment, if you and I are, you know, eating like we did

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when we went to Dallas, right, and that's the way we eat all

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the time. Our health will be
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the consistent pattern that we take.
Now, if we change our diets and

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we change our lifestyles, and you
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and this and that, ten years
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we're going to be in different shape. I'm thinking that our bodies are

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immune systems. Everything will react differently
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years. So how do you make
this overall statement when you don't have a

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ten year time period where you can
simply pull data off the timeline? Right?

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I mean you must have to multiply
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if you went one and a half
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right by ten, well, all
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Right. But multiplying or extrapolating simply
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you're tracking the interaction with a living
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the environment changes. Is there a
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environment or a cold environment, right. I mean, if you're living in

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you know, a place where there's
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there is no summer because it's cold
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your body will react differently when it
comes to your immune system. You're obviously

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not interacting with a whole bunch of
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because you don't have the same sort
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if they if they're facing some of
the projection on past results from RM in

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a ah, the But that's weird
too, because didn't they say I have

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a reason. Well, but didn't
they say this is a new technology that

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has not been utilized before. I
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that was it. Maybe across the
board it was no, because the guy

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that you know perfected the way to
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He came out with these when they
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hey, he says, this isn't
what is these things? They have

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not gone through any testing. They've
not been out long enough to know what

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they're going to do. So but
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used in certain processes like I give
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when it comes to plant or animal
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a lot of this that goes on. That's probably the biggest use of it

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right now. It's in the EG
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I understood is the new element here
that nanotech, right, the thing that

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is a most dangerous consequence in a
lot of people's minds where they think it's

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going to be chipped and this,
and that the nanotech element was not around.

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That was new part of the process
was around, but it had not

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been tested on a significant population.
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where are you getting this from?
If it has not been loosed or you

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even tested on a significant enough control
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have no exposure. You have to
have a completely separate control group in order

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to have a scientific experiment where you
can make a comparison here, right,

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Like in other words, Okay,
you got a population, let's just say

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a thousand people that were given the
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thousand that were given none of it
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because they would be the control group. What happens if we don't give them

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anything or placebo or whatever. And
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you still don't have that timeline.
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many other factors that go into the
health of an organism that would contribute to

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its lifespan. Yeah, but did
you think about it though? Mr Anda

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technology has been around since the seventies. Okay, they've you know, it's

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well, actually the early sixties,
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its youth has become commonplace in the
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years of use in certain areas.
I'm sure that there are studies that have

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been done. I know these studies
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things to see whether you know,
we can even bring this product to market

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or this species of hog use in
Smithfield hoghouses. You know. So now

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I understand and they and they to
be able to come up with the fifteen

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years. I'm thinking that there's enough
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five years of extensive monitoring and then
another ten years of yearly monitoring. I

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guess they're saying that in ten years, all chances of any adverse effects should

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have been grown out of the person, or if it didn't have any in

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fifteen years, then it's not going
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on statistics and odds, you know, being that we are supposed to be

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in a time period quite honestly,
be where I've seen scientific projections that said

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that, you know, half of
our ozone should be gone, being that

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we live in a time period where
there's supposed to have been various plagues that

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should have hit us by now,
okay, epidemics based on other people's projections,

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being that the population should have done
other things like exploded, well beyond

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the alleged numbers that they say they've
counted. And by the way, we

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have a population decline as far as
replacement goes in certain places where that was

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not predicted previously. I got to
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of faith in these scientists and their
projections because any of the alarmist stuff that

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was ever given to us. I
mean, do you remember in the nineteen

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eighties that there was that giant hole
in the ozone and they said it was

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caused by stuff that was you know, it was what was the phrase tetrafluorocarbons

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right, Yeah, floral carbons were
depleting the ozone okay, and those things,

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right, and those things came from
spray cans, and they came from

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air conditioner units, right, and
yeah, exhaust and just byproduct of using

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the chemicals. Yeah. Right,
So we didn't reduce that stuff too much.

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And if you go mathematically with the
projections, there was this big hole

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and opening in the ozone layer,
which, by the way, they had

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said that it was caused by all
these chemicals. And when I was in

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high school, I did a study
on it and found that they had seen

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a similar phenomena previously, before those
chemicals were even in widespread use on the

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planet. Okay. And it was
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all right, just like it had
been in the eighties. I remember the

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specific huge hole in the ozone that
was either and I don't remember if it

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was North or South Pole at this
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the Arctic masses, either the northern
or southern Okay. Yeah, because I

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remember when they were having the hearings
on banning certain chloral floral carbons on CFCs

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that yeah, I remember when all
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and they're talking to said, well, that's why it's going to melt the

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polarized cap. And supposedly we banned
the products and the hole has filled back

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up and now it's now we're trapping
too much warmth. I mean, that's

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what that big hole above the North
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out. Well, who knows.
I mean, look, we didn't melt.

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There has been a lot of melting
of various structures. Right. There

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are glaciers that have disappeared. There's
you know, Greenland used to be a

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lot more icy, it isn't now. You know, there's parts of Russia

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that now they can drill into because
previously they were solid ice. Exon Mobile

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was tracking that at the time,
and believe me, they exploited it.

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They have definitely continued and that's causing
another catastrophe because this is all the these

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glaciers received and all this stuff is
now exposed. You have the massive amount

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of methane being pumped into the atmosphere, right, which is a greenhouse gas,

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which is going to cause things to
be even worse. You know,

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we're gonna die in another ten years, So, I mean, it's always

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something. Here's but here's the problem
by twenty twenty. If you remember in

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nineteen eighty, they were like,
by twenty twenty, we're screwed, and

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yeah, just go look at Al
Gore's film. What the hell was the

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name of it? Oh? Oh
my goodness, the thing that came out

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around two thousand, right, it
was like not not long after maybe it's

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two thousand and two. Oh man, I can't remember it, but yeah,

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yeah, it's big environmental afterate that
the British government finally said, okay,

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you got it. If you're going
to show this in classrooms, you

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got to play a disclaimer, right
right. Well, but the thing is

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I proved in high school by the
way, that there was observations after immediately

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following World War Two, okay,
where they saw the same phenomena, a

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larger hole in fact than the one
that they said existed based on all these

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products. And then I tracked when
those products were introduced into the consumer market

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and when they were used for commercial
purposes, et cetera. And guess what

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when there was way less cars on
the road in nineteen fifty, all right,

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and when there was way less spray
cans and way less air conditioning on

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the planet, and all that all
that stuff that they said was doing this.

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We had a bigger hole, a
bigger one that nobody knew what the

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hell it was for. It was
like, why is this a rip open?

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And are you know? And I'm
like, see, this is a

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phenomena that is not fully understood.
And that was like my global science thesis

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because they had this new science program
in my school, which was weird.

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It was like an urban experiment global
science, and in that class they taught

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us about play tectonics and a bunch
of things like that stuff. I think

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about this though, if you,
let's say you wrote a paper and sent

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it to the National Academy of Sciences
on your experiment that basically came out and

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said, this stuff is basically too
complicated that anybody could even figure out a

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model that you could use. And
let's say you did that, you realize

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you'd be another skeptic of the hockey
stick model and all these other things,

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and you would have been canceled for
simply coming up with the truth of you

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can't predict climate. Well, there's
too many variables for you to be able

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to say what this Earth is going
to do because you have no way to

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know what it's done well. Ultimately, my science teacher said that it was

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a college level thing that I had
done with research and all that, because

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I remember no internet in nineteen ninety
or ninety one, if you were,

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and how old were you at the
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was eighteen? So yeah, okay, So you send that paper out,

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people start publishing it. You realize
the amount of people that would come down

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on you with well see back then, no, but you know, go

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ten years in advance, and an
Inconvenient truth. That's that's the name of

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it. You put it in the
chat room. Good, an inconvenient truth.

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That was the name of al Gore's
thing. But he put that out

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in what two thousand and two?
Is that right? Uh? Things,

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Yeah, that sounds about right.
Well, let me look that up up.

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Yeah, let me look that up
and make sure about it. I

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don't want to say the wrong thing, but I'm thinking it was two thousand

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and two. Either way, it
was like right after he lost the uh

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presidential uh you know game? Yeah, what was it like? Uh,

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let's see two thousand and six.
Oh wow, okay, so it was

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even further after that. Yeah,
IMDb says two thousand and six, YEP

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filmmaker Davis Guggenheim, right, directed
by Davis Gugenheim. Is that his name,

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Gougenheim, Yes, it is Googenheim. And Al Gore? Oh wow,

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is this the Did he use the
honey nut? Yes he did.

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He used the honey nut. Cheerio's
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West, the same guy who does
ren his stupid Oh no, you know,

409
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:19.640
Al kind of feels sympathetic for Al. You know, he he hadn't

410
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:23.720
play second fiddle to Clinton. He
had to, you know, kind of

411
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.799
shrug his shoulders and answer when everybody
looked to him as to how could Bill

412
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.599
do these things, you know,
with Monica and all that, And he,

413
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.599
you know, tried to distance himself
and his wife. What does wife

414
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:41.519
one of the big ones that wanted
to censor uh music albums and CDs?

415
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.880
Oh yeah, Tipper gorens Yes,
Tipper Gore the parents being married to that,

416
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:52.279
having to listen to her pitch all
the parents music then the parents Music

417
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.960
Resource Center, and she even convinced
her husband to have hearings. I love

418
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.680
that, by the way, Those
hearings are great, and those were decent

419
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.920
to d Sneyder, his big show
up. D Schneider and Frank Zappa go

420
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:11.359
and and for some reason, I
even remember Zappa. I should because I

421
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.759
really loved Zappa, but I always
remember D Snyder sitting, you know,

422
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.400
just looking at him like I can't
believe on the year. Yeah. D

423
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.720
Schneider was great, but Frank Zappa
was the best because Frank Zappa showed up,

424
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:25.200
like, you know, in a
suit and like with his hair done

425
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.920
like nineteen fifty style, like completely
you know, but he was clearly it

426
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.759
was Frank Zappa, you know,
sitting there going, are you guys really

427
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.720
imagine? So I kind of feel
sympathy for Al. I mean, he

428
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.799
had to put up with Tip for
all those years. Yeah, and then

429
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.480
he's gonna, you know, he's
gonna tell us about global warming and all

430
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.799
the problems, and he sits down
to make this movie and for it to

431
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:52.240
be found so full of crap that
a government agency says, if you're going

432
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.359
to show this to our kids,
it's not enough for you to tell them

433
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.160
that he could be this is his
opinion on something, but you have to

434
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:06.240
read this disclaimer and provide it to
that before we'll let you show it.

435
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:11.880
That's pretty bad. Michael Moore.
It doesn't even have a movie that they

436
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.960
have to put a damn disclaim out
for. Well, you know it's look.

437
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.640
You know what's even worse than any
of that, though, is you

438
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:26.039
got to rewind even before the Clinton
administration, because al Gore was considered like

439
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:32.319
literally, I remember getting publications like
this because I was I was a junior,

440
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:37.680
high school and high school journalist,
right, So we had publications that

441
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.559
came into the high school newspaper because
it was supposed to inform us about stuff

442
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.079
that, you know, if we
were going to write about politics or something

443
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.000
that was going on in the country. Believe it or not, we had

444
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:52.200
a pretty serious journalism teacher. Okay. It was like, you know,

445
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.240
you need to live And this is
really strange too, because the New York

446
00:31:55.240 --> 00:32:00.599
Times at the time was not the
liberal paper at all, okay. It

447
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.480
was definitely like the most conservative news
outlet in the Tri state area that you

448
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.200
could look at, the New York
Times, okay, And that was like

449
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:14.559
his standard, like if you want
to be able to write, if you

450
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:19.799
want to be a journalist, then
your stuff better look like it belongs on

451
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:23.640
a newsstand with this, okay.
And he wanted us informed if we were

452
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.519
going to write about, you know, the presidential election that was coming up

453
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.079
in ninety two or whatever. If
we wanted to write about that, we

454
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:37.000
had to be informed. So they
wanted us informed about who the upcoming candidates

455
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.559
were and stuff like that, right, because you know Reagan leaving office in

456
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.000
uh let's see now if he ran
in eighty right, so eighty eight,

457
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:52.759
so Bush would take office in yeah, in eighty nine. Right, So

458
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:58.759
here's the deal at Clinton thing's office
in ninety three, I think right anyway,

459
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:06.160
wait, which Bush are you talking
about? Hw? Hw? Yeah,

460
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:07.599
Okay, you threw me there for
a minute, because I thought,

461
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.720
no, the Bush junior was two
thousand, right, I took office.

462
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.440
But what I'm saying is they were
looking at who the up and comers were

463
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:22.480
in the party right now. Al
Gore was was sort of like the up

464
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:28.680
and coming, young fresh Democrat,
Okay, who was going to come up

465
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.839
with middle of the road ideas common
sense. Okay. He wasn't all about

466
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.839
being part of the liberal agenda at
the time, all right. He was

467
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:40.599
somewhat liberal, but he was also
seemingly a new blend. Remember the new

468
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:49.799
Democrats before Clinton came in. Okay, Clinton came in and through personality swept

469
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.960
aside that he was competing with people
like Gore and a bunch of people to

470
00:33:53.039 --> 00:34:00.319
get that nomination. When he got
in there, Gore was almost like the

471
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.839
the heir apparent, the inheritor,
if you will, of the Democratic Party,

472
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.319
Like this was the stuff the Democratic
Party was putting out, this is

473
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:12.599
the stuff that the political press was
focusing on. Al Gore is up and

474
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.880
coming, and in fact he even
shakes aside and puts aside all of the

475
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:23.480
misconceptions and problems that most of America
has with Southern with Southern politicians and all

476
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:30.079
this stuff. Al Gore fresh face, and he's young, and his wife

477
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:35.039
is young, and they're young people
who are looking to change America for the

478
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.880
better. They want to improve things. And it's not all liberal. Some

479
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.320
of it is very conservative. They
need us to go back to, you

480
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.840
know, the almost make America great
again thing, but with a little more

481
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:52.000
common sense and much more compassion was
the idea. I mean, he was

482
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.599
taken. I mean, he's of
the old school. You gotta think who

483
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.679
his dad was. His dad was
a senator for years too, so right,

484
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.639
you know, and he was used
to Tennesse politics, and back then,

485
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:07.519
you know, you still had the
remnants of the conservative Democrats who helped

486
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.000
put Nixon in power. That's what
you know, a lot of people think,

487
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.000
oh, yeah, that's when the
party switched, right, the Democrats

488
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.480
became the Republicans, And that's all
crap. What it was Nixon was able

489
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:22.800
to capitalize on those conservative Democrats in
the South who believed in, you know,

490
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.599
a strong military and law and order. But you would say, some,

491
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.719
yeah, law and order and some
of the moralistic things going on there.

492
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.599
You got to realize, you know
a lot of these people are also

493
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:36.599
connected through the Bible Belt. Anyway, I know exactly what to say.

494
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.760
And yeah, Gore was predicted to
be one of the up and comers,

495
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.760
right. He was that new group
that was going to bring a whole new

496
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.679
faith to the Democrat Party. His
problem was he had to lay second banana

497
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:52.159
to Slick Willing, but Clinton emerged. Now, that's the thing is,

498
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.840
Gore was really thought of as like, we're going to go through all this

499
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.880
and we're going to introduce you to
a bunch of people. And that was

500
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:04.119
the first time I ever saw a
whole bunch of life. Generally, normally

501
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.280
we'd get to an election cycle and
people go, here's your Democrat, here's

502
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.559
your Republican. Right, most of
that stuff was not covered by the news

503
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:14.039
very much. You didn't read about
it in your local paper very much unless

504
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.119
your politician was local to you.
Right, this kind of thing. You

505
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.800
know, when Carter was gonna run, certainly they wrote about it in Georgia.

506
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.000
But we didn't read about Carter's run
in New Jersey, not until he

507
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.599
was fully in the running. So
anyway, Gore was being written about in

508
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.840
advance. There were magazine articles.
There was you know, like I said,

509
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.880
the Democrats had publications that they put
out talking about the new face of

510
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:43.679
the Democratic Party, the whole thing. And this guy is not all liberal.

511
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:47.960
He's somewhat conservative, but he's conservative
with compassion, right and all of

512
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.679
that. And what happens is they
put together this group and I don't remember

513
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:57.400
the total group, but I do
remember that Clinton was thought of like as

514
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.039
a joke in that group. Here
comes his hick from Arkansas that nobody's ever

515
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:05.599
heard of, and nobody cares about
who cares, Yes, that was the

516
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:10.559
difference. Though Gore was old Democrat, well, he had nepotism. He

517
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.760
had nepotism because of his father and
because yeah yeah, and Clinton was this

518
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:22.480
newcomer who's bucking the system in Arkansas. Who the hell is he? Literally

519
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.599
he supposed to be the outside in
the trailer parks. You know, his

520
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.840
mom was, you know, dating
alcoholics. You know, this guy's got

521
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.719
no class. Gore was the Gore
was the signing star when Clinton came along,

522
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.920
and it's kind of like, you
know, pull to Hillary, uh,

523
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.039
like Obama did to to Hillary.
Right, it was the same thing.

524
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:44.480
Gore was ready to step in and
then all this gues slick Willie comes

525
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.039
up from Arkansas. Now he's the
you know, the great white hope,

526
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.800
and boom, he swept everybody away. And then it was almost like a

527
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.760
concession. I mean, it reminds
me of Lyndon Johnson thinking, you know

528
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.039
what, I'm going to be the
next guy to run for president. And

529
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.960
Kennedy comes in, right, and
what do they do? They go,

530
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:07.119
well, how about we make you
vice president? So Gore takes it thinking,

531
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.559
you know what if we do good
things and we show a partnership.

532
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.199
And this is what it looked like
publicly. Now I'm not saying this is

533
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.400
the way it really worked, but
this was the impression of the politic of

534
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:22.159
the time is that would wait around. It's a shame too, because Gore

535
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.880
really sucked at campaign. I think
if he had campaigned better, he could

536
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.039
have given Bush a better run for
his money. But if he was smart

537
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.960
enough to ask for a recount in
other counties than he did, he might

538
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.400
have won the thing. Well there's
that, But you know, you know

539
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.480
what the real tragedy of it is
is that the guy and I remember,

540
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.599
this is where I first developed the
phrase that I have carried with me the

541
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.639
rest of my life. Nobody likes
it when I say it, and I

542
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:47.639
don't care. I still use it. The guy has a personality of a

543
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:52.599
dead fish. He is wooden.
He's like, I'm Al Gore and I'm

544
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:59.440
here to talk to you. I
mean, dude, how stilted and fake?

545
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:05.239
And do you have to be?
I mean, he is so insincere

546
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.639
that quite honestly, if you compare, the media didn't help him either,

547
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.159
No they didn't. But you know
when they came up with the old line,

548
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.360
yeah, he helped invent the internet. You know, like that,

549
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.559
he just got blown so blown out
of the proportion. I'll tell you that

550
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:23.800
the year he ran probably produced the
best political ad I have ever seen,

551
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:30.360
and it was a Snickers commercial when
the guy goes into the voting booth and

552
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:34.119
he's got the elephant on one shoulder
and the donkey on the other shoulder,

553
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.880
and you know, if they're making
cracks about you know, Bush, I

554
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.360
look like my father, blah blah
blahlah. You know, I wear the

555
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.360
same pants as my father, and
the donkey goes. I invented fans.

556
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:51.559
It was the best commercial ever.
I've got to get credit for that well.

557
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.360
And that was hysterical because again here's
another little factor of you know,

558
00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:00.519
grandpa's time period. Okay, Grandpa's
time capsule here on the ocel. Let's

559
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:07.719
get to it. The Information super
Highway. This was the thing being discussed,

560
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:14.440
right, and al Gore was part
of encouraging that, like we're gonna

561
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:19.559
have connectivity all over it. And
again pre Internet age, because remember the

562
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.480
majority of people did not get a
lot of access to what we today think

563
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:29.239
of as the Internet until what the
mid nineties, So not until slick Willy

564
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.679
is in office for some years and
we get you know, the miraculous Drudge

565
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.679
Report and things, which, by
the way, still practically up to last

566
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.679
year I think pretty much looks like
the same website he built in ninety six,

567
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.760
but or ninety five or ninety four
or whatever, whenever he built it,

568
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.000
it is. He's got the same
he's got the same design on the

569
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:57.159
page. He just he caters more
to a left linking story. Hour let's

570
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.559
put it. Wait, don't is
a really mad at Drudge now? You

571
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.360
know, he came out pretty much
on the conservative side of stuff when Clinton

572
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.480
was going through all his craft.
Because he's in it. Drudge the one

573
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.559
that broke the uh, he broke
the Lewinsky story pretty much. But wait

574
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.360
a second, you're telling me that
people actually think Drudge is on the left.

575
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:21.320
Now, Oh, he's sticked off
a lot of right wing pundits.

576
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.159
You know. Look, just like
in various other instances, if you don't

577
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:28.599
absolutely support the guy that we say
you should, then you're obviously against us

578
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.519
and you're supporting you know, like
whenever I say something negative. But there's

579
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.119
a lot well, there's a lot
of people calling him out. He Drudge

580
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.480
has made you know, he makes
very few comments that end up in the

581
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.920
press, but what he does,
and it was a couple of years back

582
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:45.840
he made it. I think some
comments about Republicans in the way that they

583
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:52.480
were not able to follow through on
craft in the Congress and the Senate more

584
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:53.960
than anything. I mean, I
don't think he's really did a big proponent

585
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.360
when it comes to the president.
I don't think he's supporting the left though.

586
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:05.320
What he did probably is you know, actually criticis is he Yeah?

587
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.519
But see, this is the problem. It's just like the stupidity that I

588
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:13.760
get as soon as I say something
negative about Trump, right, what do

589
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.440
I get? I get people going, well, Bill, you know Biden,

590
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:20.599
Biden, what you support Biden?
And I'm like, no, he's

591
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.639
an idiot too. I'm just pointing
something out about Trump because he's making the

592
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.519
most noise. You know. It's
not that I support the other guy.

593
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.360
But that's probably what happened to him, is he probably criticized the Republicans.

594
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.199
And that's the funny thing, you
know, Rush Limbaugh. Even back in

595
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.400
this very same time period, Rush
Limbaugh, I was a daily listener to

596
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:45.400
Rush Limbaugh. I listened to him
every single day. He used to do

597
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:51.440
the Homeless Update with Oh God that
the song on there from the guy who

598
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.360
used to do I'll put a spin
on you because you man that the wild

599
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.960
guy with the bone through his nose. Remember you know what I'm talking about,

600
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.480
the street screaming Bill Hawkins, screaming
Jay, screaming Jay Hawkins. Right.

601
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.280
Well, he did another song called
and it just I remember the chorus,

602
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:13.719
I ain't got a home and no
where to go, but I ain't

603
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:19.639
got a home, right all right? Limball used to play that at the

604
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.519
beginning of his Homeless update, and
then he would play buzz saws and chainsaws

605
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.679
and stuff and tell you, now, we're going to go to the spotted

606
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.559
owl update over there in the Midwest, and we're going to talk about how

607
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:34.400
they're protecting the spotted owl instead of
the logging industry. And that's what Limball

608
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.719
was doing on a daily basis.
Oh my favorite one was this song.

609
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:45.599
It was Elvis singing in the Ghetto
to it was in the Ugo. Oh

610
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.719
well, he did all kinds of
stuff like this. But my point is

611
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.039
that back then, okay, forget
about the you know, the showmanship that

612
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.280
was going on, and when he
was giving away his radio show and building

613
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.360
that empire where I mean I do
I do remember when he broke two hundred

614
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:06.760
radio stations. He was so happy
and he was practically giving the show away

615
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.360
BP. Right, he was showing
up in a market and telling people,

616
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:14.320
look, you take this show,
you play it live, simulcast me,

617
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.440
and we'll split the revenue, and
I guarantee you're gonna do just fine.

618
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.599
And he was a big proponent of
Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. And he hadn't even

619
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:27.280
done the Rush Limbaugh ties or gotten
his TV show yet or none of that

620
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:32.840
yet. Okay, back then,
guess what he was criticizing. Not Bill

621
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.639
Clinton, not until Bill Clinton got
in office. Okay, because this is

622
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:43.360
before Bill Clinton is in office.
He was all over hw Bush. You

623
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:49.920
know why, because he wasn't conservative
enough. He was doing the right thing

624
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:55.880
for conservative Americans who care about America. George hw Bush to Rush Limbaugh,

625
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.760
if you listen to those shows back
then, was practically a left because he

626
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:07.639
wasn't coming and doing the right thing
for real Americans, real conservatives, et

627
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:13.920
cetera, et cetera. Okay,
the day that Clinton was declared the winner,

628
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:19.480
all right, that day, when
Limbaugh goes live the following day,

629
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:28.519
right, that's when he starts on
the Democrats, really, and he was

630
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.119
relentless from that point on, all
of a sudden, all the criticisms of

631
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.800
the bushes out the window. All
of a sudden, the criticisms of you

632
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.320
know, Ronald Reagan did good,
but he didn't go far enough. All

633
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:44.360
of the criticisms of you know,
Nixon, they unfairly went after him.

634
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:50.039
All of that was gone, and
he does something else. I'll never remember

635
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:54.079
hearing Russia. I'm might have to
go search an archives, the archives him

636
00:45:54.119 --> 00:46:01.480
ever being critical of Iran contra.
Know, just he used to promote every

637
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.119
now and then he would promote.
You know, you had g. Gordon

638
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.159
Lyddy had his program back then,
and then yes, you had, oh

639
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.239
what's this Oliver North come out and
start with his program not long after that.

640
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.079
Well, see, I don't remember
North having a program, but yeah,

641
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.880
he used to speak highly of North. Well, yeah, and you

642
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:24.079
know exactly what was his position North, if I remember correctly with Limbaugh,

643
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:30.079
North was a patriot who probably you
know, took the flak for people to

644
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.920
protect them, and he was protecting
people. That was Oliver North as far

645
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.920
as Rush Limbaugh was concerned. When
it came down to it, though,

646
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.119
G. Gordon Lyddy had a radio
show that he did out of Washington,

647
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.800
d C. And I know that
because I went to the d C station

648
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:51.199
and met him, and he was
an interesting guy. Make make no mistake,

649
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.480
he was a real interesting guy.
G Gordon Liddy In case people don't

650
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:58.079
know, I mean he was a
Watergate burglar, et cetera. And oh,

651
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.480
by the way, I see that
we have Jimmy James on line.

652
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.599
I want to take a quick break
and we're gonna bring Jimmy James on and

653
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:08.679
anybody else who calls in after but
Jimmy's first. Okay, three one nine,

654
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:13.880
five two seven, five zero one
six three one nine five two seven

655
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.960
five zero one six. We got
like an hour and twelve or thirteen left

656
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:27.159
of this show unless I get some
more caller participation or a donation at ochelly

657
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.480
dot com. Uh, I'm gonna
cut the show off like maybe ten after

658
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:36.000
ten because Aaron Franz will not be
live tonight. He has a soccer game

659
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.079
or a soccer tournament for his kids
or whatever, so he's taking a break

660
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:43.800
this week and that means no Uncle, no Aaron, and we could potentially

661
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:45.920
go four hours or whatever. If
you guys encourage it. Show me that

662
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.599
you care, show me that you
want to participate, show me that you

663
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.400
want to also, you know,
make it so I can afford a pound

664
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.800
of hamburger, like I was talking
about recently on I went on that Saturday

665
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.760
night Anarchy show by the way b
Pete, just real quick, and then

666
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.000
there was internet troubles, so I
dropped out. But I went on there,

667
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.440
and you know, didn't expect to
talk about it, but I was

668
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:10.039
talking about the price of groceries and
how it is nobody can afford to eat

669
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.360
and the price of hamburger meat was
a big discussion on that show, real

670
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.239
quick, and I had a good
time for like I don't know, half

671
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.119
hour or whatever, maybe forty five
minutes over there, but it was a

672
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.280
it was a good time. And
they do that with the new prisoners over

673
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.159
there live on Rumble. They do
it via video. Our our friend Vance

674
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.719
broadcasts over there and usually forgets that
we're doing the Friday night show now.

675
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.920
But yeah, this is the thing. There's a lot going on, and

676
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:43.320
I'd love to hear from you guys
out there tonight. Three one nine five

677
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.800
two seven five zero one six.
That is the number to call or reach

678
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.920
out to me, Charles dot Ocelly
on Skype, And if you ask me

679
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.440
to I will call you into the
show. Also, there's been some interesting

680
00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:00.400
stuff in Jfkland this week. Uh, there are developments on the Lancer Conference,

681
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.559
which I am going to be attending
and being the EMC again this year

682
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.199
in Dallas, Texas literally being held
on the twenty second. It'll start on

683
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:12.960
the twenty second of November in twenty
twenty four this year. But we'll find

684
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.000
out a bunch of things in the
coming weeks. I'm trying to add some

685
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.320
new people and if you have suggestions
for the Lancer Conference or you want to

686
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.199
make sure that we hook up somehow. By the way, I'm going to

687
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.880
have access to travel discounts, discounts
on the hotel rooms, all that stuff.

688
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.079
So do let me know if you
want to go to Dallas and hang

689
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.679
with us, because there might be
a group of us there. Aaron has

690
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.280
even threatened to maybe go. So
that would be great if we got like

691
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.519
Aaron and Uncle at the Lancer Conference. Imagine that one be Pete, what

692
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.800
do you think of that, Well, i'd be great. Have you heard

693
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:51.159
Mike playing on a ten and again, yes, Mike is going now and

694
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.679
he's going to be a presenter,
and just there's rumor that I might be

695
00:49:54.719 --> 00:50:00.440
absolutely in charge of the breakout room
where they're going to play stuff as happens,

696
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.000
and we're going to go down for
the moment of silence. And I've

697
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:08.039
even got somebody maybe working on a
collective transportation thing for that day, because

698
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:13.960
again it's gonna start literally, this
is gonna be weird where the twenty second

699
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.480
falls on a Friday, just like
it did in nineteen sixty three. So

700
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.360
it's going to be an interesting November
in Dallas, and I'm going to be

701
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.519
there and hopefully I'll see some of
you on that trip. It'll be great.

702
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.519
But anyway, in the meantime,
we got a lot of time until

703
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.000
we get to November and the selection, which I'm going to be exhausted from.

704
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.159
I'm sure we could talk about the
Trump trial, the Trump hush money

705
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:42.800
trial, which wasn't about hush money. But anyway, that's what CNN wanted

706
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.280
to tell you for the three four
weeks that they had, you know,

707
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.280
wall to wall coverage or gabble to
gabble or whatever the hell it is they

708
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:51.719
want to call it, call us
and tell us what's important to you.

709
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:53.360
Do you want to talk about that, you want to talk about other stuff

710
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.519
you want to talk about. What
it is I'm telling you is gonna happen

711
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.360
with that. I did a broadcast
with mike'smasin last night. Have not released

712
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:06.079
the podcast yet, but it'll be
out by tonight sometime probably on the overnight.

713
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:12.079
Uh me and Mike discussing what Trump
is doing in Virginia, his local

714
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.719
area, and uh, what's happening
in New York. I even played some

715
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:17.119
clips, et cetera, and who
knows, maybe we'll do that on the

716
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:22.400
show tonight and talk about whatever you
want to discuss. Three one nine five

717
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:27.800
two seven five zero one six.
Reach out to me Charles dot Ocelly on

718
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.199
Skype. I can call you into
the show if you ask me to,

719
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.519
but otherwise three one nine five two
seven five zero one six and the Ocelli

720
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.480
effect open. Mike will return for
at least another hour and ten after this.

721
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:52.599
Go ahead, call it the truth
about the day. If I aspirational,

722
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.280
right, well, what do you
want to know Judy Baker's wild claim

723
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:59.760
oswell girlfriends, he knew Ruby and
Barry Ganser weapons? What I imagine I

724
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.480
could? I have four wheels.
It doesn't make me a wagon. But

725
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okay, I'm bild and trying to
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757
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758
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within your time as a g double. Well. More and more people putting

759
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down move we got diedy for madness
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760
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761
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we yeah, you kill me?
You kidding me? Yeah? Yeah,

762
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you kidding me. Well, then
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763
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another way to tricks that the best
thing that could come up away. It's

764
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a gay way drug and leads to
other substances. You're kidding me? You

765
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yeah, yeah. Well, more
people bulleted down we got that before madness,

766
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Santa chatting around, Well what of
it? Limn the money being gone?

767
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:30.480
No one ever died from smoking weed. Uncle. Do you remember that

768
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:36.320
time when Benjamin Fulford said that an
Asian secret society was going to dispatch ninja's

769
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.320
to take down the illuminati. Ooh, that's interesting. Yeah. In the

770
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coatroom. Yeah, did that ever
work out too good? No? It

771
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:49.400
didn't, did it? But here
on o'chelly dot com radio network, things

772
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work out a bit better, don't
they? Much better money, it's clear

773
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programs, how much clearer getting I've people

774
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into it. They really have a
good conversation going much better, much better

775
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scene. I say, forget Benjamin
Fulford and his ninches and listen to the

776
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ochelly dot com radio network. I
agree, it's straight to the point,

777
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straight talk, and I like that
idea Olly dot com. I wouldn't make

778
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it a habit calling me that.
Then get ready the second segment of the

779
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live open mic on ohelly dot com. And we do have a couple of

780
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:43.440
callers on the line and you could
join them. Three one nine five two

781
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.519
seven five zero one six that's the
number to call or reach out to me

782
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:53.159
on Skype Charles dot ocelly and ask
me to I can call you into the

783
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:57.119
show. So, uh, let's
see what do I got here? Oh

784
00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.960
Skype message, Nope, they don't
want to join. They were just giving

785
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:04.960
a heads up on something something that
I'm not getting paid for and I'm being

786
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:08.159
delayed, being paid for something anyway, whatever is what it is. Uh,

787
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:12.599
let's get back to business. What's
on your mind? Three one nine

788
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.559
five two seven five zero one six
you can join us and b Pete.

789
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:20.920
Are we ready to open the lineup
for Jimmy James. I got a feeling

790
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:22.960
I know what he's wants to talk
about. But anything you want to throw

791
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.400
there before we bring him on.
He's been waiting a little while. No,

792
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.159
let's go ahead and bring him all. We haven't heard from Jimmy since

793
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:35.480
last week. I'm curious as to
what his topic will be. True true,

794
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:45.239
Let's see Jimmy, what's on your
mind this evening? There? I

795
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:49.480
don't know what do you think I
should talk about? I think, Jimmy

796
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.840
that whatever I think, Jimmy,
if you're asking me, I say,

797
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:59.639
you should talk about whatever you believe
is important. I think you should talk

798
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.119
about whatever it is is at the
front of your mind that you want to

799
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:06.559
share with other people. Whatever it
is, That's what I think, Jimmy.

800
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:14.480
And so well, there's no point
of discussing the Trump trial because that's

801
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.880
all for pretend and he's never going
to go to jail. You said,

802
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:22.039
correct, So I shouldn't have to
worry about it. That's absolutely certain.

803
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:25.039
I mean, look, I promise
you that all of this nonsense where they're

804
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:28.559
going, they can make them serve
up to four years in prison. Can

805
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:34.280
you imagine them giving him thirty four
counts and four years in prison for each

806
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.159
count, and then he has to
serve them consecutively. Can you believe that

807
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:43.440
they would put Trump in prison for
no matter what? One hundred and you

808
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:49.440
do really well if you consider that
they just pulled off. And I have

809
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:53.159
to admit, this is probably the
most convoluted case I have ever heard of

810
01:00:53.440 --> 01:01:01.800
over sixty years. It's nonsense.
Yeah, it's not love b Pete.

811
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:08.519
I've decided to embrace the Cassiary of
New York City. I think these judges

812
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:15.039
are legal scholars. Really, you
know, I'm brilliant. I'm going to

813
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:21.079
take their lead. Go ahead,
But well, I'm just curious when they

814
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:24.760
go to file the appeal, how
many different points? You know, when

815
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:30.119
you file an appeal you have to
be pretty precise on either the procedure or

816
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:37.559
the rule or the law that was
broken. So on this one, you

817
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:43.360
could stand back with a handful of
darts and throw them at the indictment and

818
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:47.719
the transcript of the trial and probably
come up to say you had twenty darts

819
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.840
in your hand and just throw paste
it page by page on the wall,

820
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.320
indictment and the transcript, and I
guarantee you you have out of twenty darts,

821
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:01.480
you'd find twenty things that you could
appeal this on. This is really

822
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:06.719
the most screwed up case I have
ever seen on my life. It all

823
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:12.800
begs on a premise of this act
was illegal, but the statue limitations ran

824
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.840
out. But wait a minute,
if we connect it to a different crime,

825
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:21.039
then we can pull back the statute
of limitations and go for a felony,

826
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.280
even though the predicate crime that,
by the way, we're not going

827
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:30.679
to mention and even discuss until closing
arguments, and then not even be specific

828
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:37.480
on what the crime is. We're
going to rely on testimony where the prosecutor

829
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:44.400
alleges that somebody has already committed a
crime even though there's no evidence or conviction

830
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.480
anywhere in the world of that fact, and we're going to find him guilty.

831
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:52.960
But you don't have to be unanimous
in your decision, and all of

832
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:57.519
you jurors can come up with a
different crime that he committed as the predicate

833
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:01.760
crime for these little misdemeanors. So
here you go, have at it.

834
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:05.840
Yeah, well, hang on,
BPTE, because here's the thing. If

835
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.360
you and I go and sit in
a highly populated area and watch courtroom procedures,

836
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:15.199
I assure you that we will find
that people are being charged under criminal

837
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:22.400
codes that don't exist, under convoluted
connections, under all sorts of things where

838
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:24.840
they stay in that. And yes
we could. We could find anomalies in

839
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:28.599
any courthouse that we want to sit. But all we got to do is

840
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:34.360
pick a day. This one case
has got to be the most convoluted case

841
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:38.400
I have ever seen in existence.
But I've seen people get charged under codes

842
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:45.519
that prosecutors ring out, judge stipulate
two, the defense attorney stipulates two,

843
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:49.039
and everything else. And then you
know what you do? You go and

844
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:54.159
you look and you find that it's
under an expired criminal code or a one

845
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:58.920
that doesn't exist. That's not what
this criminal code says. This guy read

846
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:03.760
out a criminal code for pie paper. I've seen this done one week.

847
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:09.360
I mean, that's very rare.
Code constantly gets sad. It's the never

848
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:14.480
detracted, that's why it's code.
It's coded no. But they get changed

849
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.159
by something else comes in and makes
an addendum to an existing one, and

850
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.679
they don't give the updated version of
it. That happens all the time.

851
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:26.199
Okay, Like you know, people
love to point out those laws that are

852
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.119
on the books here. They're like, you know, you're not allowed to

853
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.239
beat your wife unless your strap is
less than you know, an inch wide,

854
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:34.679
and all this kind of stuff.
They don't point out that there were

855
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:41.599
addendums to those laws, those codes, those criminal whatever, and they don't

856
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.960
point out that at some point that
got nullified and why did it get nullified

857
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:49.719
because of this particular thing that came
in, right, And they do that

858
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:54.239
all the time, which it sweeps
through and makes a lot of things that,

859
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:58.000
yes, they're still on the books, but they've been rendered useless and

860
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:01.599
people get charged under the things,
and if they don't have a good enough

861
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:06.000
paralegal, guess what happens. They
don't discover it, and they literally go

862
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:10.920
and do time or pay fines based
on crap all the time. Okay,

863
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:13.920
now let's just put that aside.
Just okay, Chuck's just a lunatic.

864
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:17.599
Fine, here's the fun part,
do you I mean you really I'll do

865
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:21.320
the dirty dollar bets because that was
suggested in the chat room earlier in the

866
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:25.440
week. Let's do some dirty dollar
bets. And somebody thought I had a

867
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:28.920
bet with Jimmy James. I didn't
that. We don't have a bet currently.

868
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:34.760
But I'll take dollar action on this, no problem, Okay, you

869
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:39.840
know, as I guarantee, I'm
gonna make money on this. So wherever

870
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:43.920
you want to go, I will
take action on outcomes and different things.

871
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.760
We gotta structure it. Be very
specific about what it is you think is

872
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.320
going to happen here. Be pete, but I promise you this, there

873
01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:56.679
will be no jail time for Trump. You want to bet a dollar on

874
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.480
it or do you want to tell
me that there's going to be jail time?

875
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.960
And I mean, it's got to
survive appeals, it's got to survive

876
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:09.840
alterations to the judgment and all that
stuff which you're gonna happen here because you

877
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:12.960
know there's going to be appeals.
And you want to talk about throwing darts.

878
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.440
You ever see those dark games at
a you know, carnival. He

879
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:20.880
could be sentenced to jail time before
the appeals ever kick in. I mean

880
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:24.840
he could be in jail come election
day, right, but he won't.

881
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.719
But that's the thing is, if
he's on appeal, they're not going to

882
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:33.079
put him in jail. On appeal, he's going to h alleged. That's

883
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:38.760
when he will be sentenced to jail. That's when it's scheduled. That's when

884
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:42.400
it's scheduled. How about this,
How about this, He won't be sentenced

885
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:45.880
on July eleventh, even though it's
scheduled for it. I'll make a dollar

886
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:49.840
bet with either one on that he
will not be sentenced July eleventh for this

887
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:58.440
case. You want to start there, he will be. He'll be sent

888
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.679
to jail. I'm willing to make
that bad Okay, no problem, one

889
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:08.639
dollar, Jimmy James. He actually
has to go and be sent to jail

890
01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:13.559
to serve time, right, not
not he's in temporary holding for something or

891
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:18.119
being processed, but he actually has
to go at least day, at least

892
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.320
one day, he has to see
four hours he has to sit well,

893
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:26.239
let's say forty eight because they could
take twenty four hours to process him in

894
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:29.519
a stupid joint Okay, as dumb
as that is, and because they got

895
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:32.400
to content with secret service and all
this other nonsense. The thing is,

896
01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:38.920
give me forty eight hours. If
he sits in a cell in prison for

897
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:44.639
forty eight hours, I lose.
How's that? No, I don't know

898
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:48.119
because after twenty four hours, by
then someone will have gone to the Supreme

899
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:53.880
Court and said this is crazy,
asked shit, well, I don't know

900
01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:57.920
that he will do forty eight hours, but he mind. Well that's that's

901
01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:00.159
what I'm willing to bet on,
because I think he could sit being processed

902
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:04.679
and nonsense going on for twenty four
hours. That's the eleventh. On the

903
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:09.519
eleventh, let's take a look at
what day July eleventh is. But either

904
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:13.679
way, I promise you he will
not be sentenced on July eleventh. It

905
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:20.319
is a Thursday, a Thursday.
Yes, there's a good chance he you'll

906
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:26.439
do forty eight hours. So you
think sentence late on a Thursday, then

907
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.800
that means they're going to run him
over to Rikers. They're gonna have to

908
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.840
make arrangements. They might delay half
a day just in transport, trying to

909
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.920
get secret service and all that to
get him to Rikers. Get him there.

910
01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:41.960
He may not sit in a sale. He'll sit secluded. But you

911
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.560
know say that they're like most courts. You gotta wait till Monday to see

912
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.880
a judge. Well, chance he
could pull a weekend. But okay,

913
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:53.880
I agree with Jimmy. I think
I think he's going to be sentenced to

914
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.600
jail time now, whether he actually
goes or he's allowed to. You know

915
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.680
what would be more humiliating than putting
an ankle honitor on him, making him

916
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:05.840
stay at Trump Towers? You know
it's the possibility, is there that?

917
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:12.600
Yes? He I think this judge, because of the notoriety he's gotten off

918
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.439
of this, has got just a
big enough ego that he's going to be

919
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:19.960
the one to sentence him to time. No, We're going to get every

920
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:24.199
piece of dirt on this judge possible. And I'm telling you right now,

921
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.079
I've already been out there. You
can't. You can't. Oh No,

922
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:30.680
there's more qualifi any more than's already
been done. There's more connections to the

923
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:36.000
money his daughter's making off this case
and raising money for the Democrats. You

924
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:42.199
know, he's the judge is conflicted
from get go, so you can't get

925
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.760
it more conflicted. I think this
judge has got a big enough ego he's

926
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:51.079
going to be the one known as
given Trump. I have an unfair advantage

927
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.680
over you. I know that they
are locked and loaded with more dirt on

928
01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:00.520
this judge that has not been seen
in public yet. So I I happen

929
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:03.600
to know difference the judge. Okay, I'm just telling you, but look,

930
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:05.720
forget it. Forget it. Thank
you. Do you think they can

931
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:12.119
take this judge down by July eleven? I have two bets that I'm willing

932
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:15.760
to make here, okay already,
and I want you guys to take the

933
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:17.960
challenge. I mean forty eight hours, not in a holding cell, but

934
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:23.880
actually doing time. Okay. Now, if he's if he's under the control

935
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:29.960
of the North of New York Correctional
Facility, that's he's full. He's full

936
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.079
of Dome European specific. He's got
to be in a cell. Yeah,

937
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:38.319
he has to go to a lot. He goes into custody. He's in

938
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:43.159
freaking jail. It counts. But
no, because that's not the same as

939
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.119
custody you or I would be in. I'm talking about he actually goes to

940
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.920
a cell to serve time. There
is a difference between that and being held.

941
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:56.279
There is a difference. And that's
all I'm saying. Forty eight hours.

942
01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:59.119
If you're so convinced that they want
to give him jail time. Two

943
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:01.319
days, I mean two days nothing. Oh, he's gonna get jail time.

944
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:03.359
Now it's a matter whether he goes
through the door or not off.

945
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:06.680
But yeah, I guarantee you this
judge is gonna give him. I guarantee

946
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:11.399
you probably give him jail time.
Okay. So I am willing to make

947
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.760
two different bets here. One that
he will not be sentenced on the eleventh.

948
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.479
There will not be sentencing on the
eleventh. It will either be delayed,

949
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:24.840
moved, nullified, something will happen
before the eleventh to make it so

950
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:30.800
he's not sentenced. One. Two, he does not do forty eight hours

951
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:35.319
serving time, not being held temporarily
or being processed or hanging out in the

952
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:41.560
courtroom holding cell or none of that
crap. I mean actually going to a

953
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:46.239
facility where we start ticking off your
time that you're serving two days forty eight

954
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:55.079
hours. He won't do it.
So there's my two declared bets. Okay.

955
01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:01.279
Two about he might send some due
he might sentence him to thirty days,

956
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:06.399
but he's gonna for sure sentence trump
his sentence. Peter Navarro, who's

957
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:12.800
eighty year old lawyer, presumed for
ninety days for not showing up to Nancy

958
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:16.439
Close his kangaroo court. Okay,
well, Peter are si. Peter Navarro

959
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:20.640
doesn't have the same protection Trump does. So you're telling me you're willing to

960
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:25.880
take that that did. Actually he
did. Actually he did because he had

961
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:30.520
executive privileged because he was Trump's lawyer, and that's what he claimed. And

962
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:33.600
yet they wanted him to break his
that privilege and he wouldn't do it.

963
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:39.880
That's lovely. You know, the
guy that Trump put in as the ambassador

964
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:44.439
in Israel was actually, you know, a serial killer, Robert Durst lawyer.

965
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:48.640
You know that anyway, whatever,
I don't care. Forty eight hours

966
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:54.079
you're claiming to me that he'll do
it. What what is this deal?

967
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:59.560
Did you know that lawyers are bad
depending on who they represent. No,

968
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:01.479
no, no, Well take a
look at the guy's actions and him working

969
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:05.359
for Robert Durst and tell me,
tell me that this guy is a great

970
01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:11.199
guy. Anyway. It's just one
of the connections between Trump and Durst that

971
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.800
ought to be out there, but
it's not getting out there. So look,

972
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:16.560
tell me something. Forty eight hours. Sorry, man, I'm getting

973
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:23.800
way off line because I didn't even
want to. Honestly, Trump, I

974
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:28.840
just say that those judges I love
their wild justice system. I liked it.

975
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:32.640
I'm gonna make my own summary judgment. It's crazy. You should get

976
01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:35.920
in on it. I say,
go, get you a shingle and see

977
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:39.920
if you can get a justice of
the peace. By the way, it

978
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:43.600
is possible to get it in upstate
New York and apply for it up there.

979
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:45.520
Do it, Jimmy, go ahead, But in the meantime, forty

980
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:51.159
eight hours you're willing to take that
bet against me or what by the end

981
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:55.439
of the year. By the end
of the year, Trump will do forty

982
01:13:55.479 --> 01:14:00.520
eight hours off of this case you're
telling me, Yeah, I would say,

983
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:03.880
before the end of July, he
will be in good joint. Fine,

984
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:08.359
I'll take that bet exactly that way. Forty eight hours he serves,

985
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:15.600
forty eight hours by the end of
July. One dollar you accept yep.

986
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.039
First, all right, Jimmy,
Jimmy and I are down for a dollar

987
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:25.199
on forty eight hours before the end
of July. So be pete you you

988
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:29.399
want to take me up on either
one of those bets that either he doesn't

989
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:32.000
get to because I don't like the
limitations you put on them. You don't

990
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.279
like the limitations, Okay, well, yeah, I'll pocket I'll pocket my

991
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:40.600
money on this one. I'll sit
back and I'll hold the buck, Okay

992
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:44.199
with you and Jimmy. But no
problem. Yeah, I'm not. No.

993
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:46.640
I think he's gonna get whether he
serves or not, I don't know,

994
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.359
but I think he's gonna get sentenced
for time. Whether he can be

995
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:54.840
out on bail while his appeal happens, I don't know this judge. I

996
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:59.199
would think. See, he pushed
the judge to the point of having to

997
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:01.840
put him in jail for contemned okay, and then he backed off for some

998
01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.840
reason and let me out of the
judge, we'll throw you in the clink

999
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:09.239
for contempt. Yeah, but he
didn't, didn't put him in So okay,

1000
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:11.680
how about this then, forget about
the forty eight hours. You don't

1001
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:15.359
like that limitation. How about I
say he does not get sentence on July.

1002
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.199
Lation is sitting in a cell.
He could be under control Department of

1003
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:21.000
Corrections for forty eight hours. To
me, that counts. You ain't got

1004
01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:26.079
the ability to go where you want. You ain't free, okay, But

1005
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.960
to me, being in prison and
being in custody are slightly different things.

1006
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:34.399
And you know, technically speaking,
he was not allowed to leave the court

1007
01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:40.600
during the proceedings. You know,
well, considering that he's in custody because

1008
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:44.479
he was convicted of a crime,
Yeah, you're pretty much in jail.

1009
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:49.479
All right, Well, then we'll
skip that one. I have another question

1010
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:55.640
July eleventh. He absolutely gets sentenced
on the eleventh. I don't see the

1011
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:59.720
reason that would postponent. I really
don't. I mean, because I don't

1012
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:03.239
think this judge appeals it. He's
not. I don't think he's going to

1013
01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.159
back off just waiting for the appeal. He's going to go through. This

1014
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:10.880
judge is going to be retiring before
too long. And this is his claim

1015
01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.439
to fame. This is his swan
song. He's going to ride it just

1016
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:15.840
as high as he can. He's
going to be the guy known and said

1017
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:20.920
Trump to jail unless he's roved,
unless he is removed from the bench sometime

1018
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:24.439
before the end of the year.
From the bench. You can't remove a

1019
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:28.560
judge in what six weeks. Nah, ain't gonna happen. Okay, fair

1020
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:32.399
enough, But but here's the thing. If a huge enough scandal comes out,

1021
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:35.439
I mean, you could see a
guy resigning, retiring even but anyway,

1022
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:39.680
leave that alone. He gets sentenced
on the eleventh. I mean,

1023
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:43.479
that's an easy no matter what comes
out, he's gonna have the media playing

1024
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:46.800
dodgeball for him for at least a
month maybe, but they could give him

1025
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:48.920
a month, so there's no way
they get him off the bench. I

1026
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:51.520
don't think you're gonna see him going
in six I'll make a bet on that.

1027
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:56.199
Whether the judge is still on the
bench in six weeks, I don't.

1028
01:16:56.359 --> 01:17:00.439
I don't have a time frame on
exactly when he's gonna get this Detroyd,

1029
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:04.239
but he's gonna get destroyed. So
the thing is, I don't have

1030
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:09.279
a reasonable time frame on it.
However, I'm pretty certain that if we

1031
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.680
get to the end of the year
and Trump is re selected, this guy

1032
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:15.880
does not have a good future.
But anyways, oh no, he doesn't.

1033
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:20.159
I'll go ahead and tell you now, it's time the Republicans or people

1034
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:25.439
on the conservative side of things start
pulling some of the same crap these Democrats

1035
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.399
have been pulling. If I were
Trump when I got in there, I

1036
01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:31.359
would clean house at the DJ Okay, all right, here's almost put in

1037
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:34.880
these positions. Oh I'm sure that
that will do whatever you gotta do and

1038
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:41.079
go after every effort that you pulled
this ship for the past eight years,

1039
01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:44.399
You're gonna you're gonna get You're gonna
get that. That show. I'm sure

1040
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.439
of it. So tell me something
is is he sentenced on the eleventh or

1041
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:56.600
not? You're not willing to take
me up on that. Yeah, I'll

1042
01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:00.159
give you a dollar. Okay,
you will don't see anything? Are you

1043
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:04.279
getting this judge out of the way
by that delayed like one day because he's

1044
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:11.000
got cold or something. I mean, that don't count. Look if if

1045
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:15.119
they are bound and determined as you
guys think they are, to make an

1046
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:17.159
example and to do this, and
this guy you think he's gonna let it

1047
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:21.479
slide for a day, even,
why would he do that? I say,

1048
01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:27.920
any delay at all, maybe maybe
that judge's PMS will be rageing that

1049
01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:30.960
day. I don't know whether this
problem, Well, I guess in the

1050
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:34.960
moment could happen. I got you. But in the modern world, I

1051
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:38.359
guess I get Well, you know, the guy could just wear a diaper.

1052
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:40.520
I mean, if he really wants
to get it done, he could

1053
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:42.880
just go in there with a diaper
or a MAXI pad, you know,

1054
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:45.760
cotton shoved up his butt like he's
about to get electrocuted. It's fine.

1055
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:49.960
Uh so you know if you want
to take it or not. That is

1056
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:54.720
the limitation, very simple, whether
it's delayed by a day or a week,

1057
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:57.960
or a month or a year.
I say he does not get sentenced

1058
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.880
on the eleventh. I'll take up
on that. Okay. So I got

1059
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:10.159
VP for the sentence on the eleventh, all right, and I'm writing this

1060
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:12.439
down what depends, so I just, you know, make sure I don't

1061
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:17.760
forget. We can always go back
to the tape. Absolutely absolutely, So,

1062
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:20.560
Jimmy, do you want to take
me up on that that he's absolutely

1063
01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:26.000
sentenced on the eleventh or no,
because you're afraid he might get a cold

1064
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.079
and it'll be delayed by a day
or whatever, you don't want to do

1065
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:33.279
it. I don't see what's so
special about the eleventh. I'll say the

1066
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:41.279
eleventh, give or take a couple
m now, because I don't know what

1067
01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:45.439
could get arranged if they delay it. But I just I have this certainty

1068
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:49.079
that they will delay it and do
something different. But that's as far as

1069
01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:51.960
I can go. I mean,
it's difficult to know all of the ins

1070
01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:57.399
and outs of the games that are
about to get played here, because you

1071
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:03.079
know, some things are variables.
Bpee took it up, so okay,

1072
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:10.800
I'll think. So I got some
inside information, I figured absolutely, okay,

1073
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.560
So there it is, all right. So this is how far I've

1074
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:15.880
gone. Anybody else wants to get
in on the dollar bets, no problem.

1075
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.720
And those are the two that I've
been able to lay out so far.

1076
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:21.880
And I've done it based on the
stuff that these guys have said that

1077
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:26.479
you know, they're absolutely going to
send some by this date. This guy's

1078
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:30.279
going to do time. And I
say, no, let's watch and learn.

1079
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:33.640
If I'm wrong. I'm wrong,
I'll go with it, and I'll

1080
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:38.720
see what happens. I mean,
it'll probably be even more interesting and exciting

1081
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:44.600
and worth my three dollars I could
lose here so far, so it'll be

1082
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.479
worth the entertainment value. It'll be
definitely worth the entertainment value if it does

1083
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:50.800
not go the way that I see
it going. But otherwise I'm going to

1084
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:54.479
be yawning and sitting there going,
gee, I wonder how it is yet

1085
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:59.159
again, because Trump has never had
a criminal record of any kind for no

1086
01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:02.279
matter whatever, she's done. He's
never been held accountable for any sort of

1087
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:06.800
accounting chicanery, which he's been called
out for accounting chicanery many times before,

1088
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:12.560
but never prosecuted for it. Whether
it was he was claiming bankruptcy and the

1089
01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:16.079
inability to pay people, or he
decided not to pay on contracts had them

1090
01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:19.359
take him to court and pay pennies
on the dollar, it doesn't matter.

1091
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:23.680
He's never been taking a task for
any of it. It's just business as

1092
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:27.039
usual. A question though, that
has come up. You know, we

1093
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:33.680
had the we had the civil trial
on his business ventures that was pretty much

1094
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:39.119
stacked against him, and then we
had the other civil trial of was it

1095
01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:43.119
E. J. Carroll or whatever
her name is, sued him for sexual

1096
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:46.840
assault. It was funny he was
found guilty of a sexual assault in a

1097
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:51.039
civil court but doesn't have to register
as a sex offender. That's interesting because

1098
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:58.439
it's not civil. Had this case
which was so blatantly rigged before it even

1099
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:03.479
started that you know, you got
to wonder. Now we've heard so much

1100
01:22:03.479 --> 01:22:09.159
about white privilege, and you know, white elite people usually are the ones

1101
01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:14.159
that benefit from white privilege, and
I don't see where Trump has had any

1102
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:16.640
white privilege shown to him in this
state of New York when it comes to

1103
01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:21.520
legal matters. So I'm wondering,
is now Orange people going to be a

1104
01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:26.239
protected race? I don't know.
That's that's a good question. Maybe there

1105
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.119
should be the new Orange is the
new white? You know kind of thing.

1106
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:31.399
I don't know. Then, well, look, Eene Carroll, the

1107
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.880
reason why he doesn't have to register
as a sex offender is because, get

1108
01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:39.079
this, regardless of what the media
tells you, he's not convicted of a

1109
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:43.520
crime. Why that's a criminal.
But I can't believe through a civil proceeding

1110
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:48.279
you wouldn't have to no, because
it's civil damages. It's not Look look,

1111
01:22:48.520 --> 01:22:51.399
listen, wait a minute. The
rules of New York law have been

1112
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:58.520
so convoluted in three cases coming out
of New York that you can't say that

1113
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:01.760
they couldn't convolute something else but you
and make him register. I mean,

1114
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:05.800
that's what's so screwy about this.
The three cases in New York that have

1115
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:11.920
been thrown at Trump had stood the
Jewish prudence system on its head. But

1116
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:15.640
you'd have to reinvent the English language. Look OJ, right, remember OJ?

1117
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:18.600
You remember OJ? Doesn't everybody remember
OJ? You know he died not

1118
01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:24.319
long ago, rest in whatever the
hell, OJ, I'm not sure how

1119
01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:29.439
to feel about you. But here's
the deal. He was what acquitted on

1120
01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:35.880
murder and then found lible in the
wrongful death of his ex wife and Ron

1121
01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:42.800
Goldman. Right, so there's no
registering. He's not a felon based on

1122
01:23:42.960 --> 01:23:45.560
that, not until later when they
got him caught up in that other thing.

1123
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:48.439
He's not a felon. He doesn't
have to be known. He's not

1124
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:56.920
a murderer technically because he was found
in a civil case liable for wrongful deaths.

1125
01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:00.319
No, you're comparing apples and oranges. You're comparing you know, going

1126
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:05.800
through the court system and what Las
Vegas and La I'm just saying New York

1127
01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:11.199
has convoluted the rules so much that
it's not going to surprise me that the

1128
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:15.640
next person they go after they might
have them have to register or something,

1129
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:19.960
even though they didn't commit a crime. Both of those Trump didn't commit a

1130
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:25.359
crime, But he's been feeling he's
been what found guilty three times both of

1131
01:24:25.479 --> 01:24:30.199
the case both of the cases that
I'm talking about where there was a result

1132
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:33.720
before he gets caught up in that
thing later the wrongful death and the murder

1133
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:39.439
case are both California cases. Okay, And if I want to tell me

1134
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:42.600
point, my point is simply that
New York is so screwed up that don't

1135
01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:46.119
be surprised if they start requiring you
to register as a sex defender after a

1136
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:51.159
civil suit goes against you. You're
telling me it's that screwed up New York.

1137
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:54.920
I got a question that surprised me. I got a question. Then

1138
01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:59.039
you're telling me that, literally,
the New York legal system is more screwed

1139
01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:03.359
up than the calib foreign legal system. Yeah, oh, this is a

1140
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:10.399
surprise to me. But my point
does stand in that naturally, if you're

1141
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:16.399
held liable in a civil proceeding,
it is not the same as being criminally

1142
01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:23.079
held accountable. It's a difference.
So you know, I'm just saying,

1143
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:27.239
maybe maybe this is a case where
they couldn't convolute it enough, they couldn't

1144
01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:30.199
cross that boundary. It's literally it's
a different judge, it's a different type

1145
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:35.479
of procedure in any jurisdiction. These
things are not remotely close. I mean,

1146
01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:41.560
if you think about the standard of
evidence in the King trial Martin Luther

1147
01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:45.680
King Junior, the civil action that
took place where they had all these people

1148
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:49.720
held accountable and the wrongful death of
Martin Luther King Jr. And James Arrolray

1149
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:56.199
is the convict, and he was
working on having his case set aside.

1150
01:25:56.439 --> 01:26:01.760
But that was a criminal situation.
When they get their symbolic settlement in Memphis,

1151
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:06.520
right, that's a civil procedure.
Nobody else has to go to prison,

1152
01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:11.439
even though they had a whole slew
of people that were supposedly liable for

1153
01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:15.079
the wrongful death and the violation of
the civil rights of doctor Martin Luther King

1154
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:19.439
Junior in his assassination. So I'm
just saying the way it normally stands is

1155
01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:24.920
a civil procedure not the same as
a criminal one. This time, this

1156
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:29.560
is a criminal procedure convoluted as it
is. That's a difference. So you

1157
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:32.439
know, they don't put you in
jail over a civil thing unless you violate

1158
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:35.800
a court order, and that's a
separate situation. You're being held in contempt

1159
01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:41.159
of a court order things like this, But generally speaking, penalties, they

1160
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:45.640
can't apply prison time and things like
this to you in a civil case.

1161
01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:48.760
So therefore they can't do things that
restrict your freedom, like make you register

1162
01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:53.520
as a sex offender, on and
on. So that's why Trump is not

1163
01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:59.319
registered as anything because he was found
guilty in a civil proceeding anyway. And

1164
01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:03.840
actually and actually the trial was for
rape, and the jury acquitted him,

1165
01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:13.079
and the jury and the judge wrote
a summary judgment claiming the judge bought them

1166
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:18.079
guilty on his own of so called
sexual assault other than rape, right,

1167
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:25.239
and so in a criminal and in
a criminal proceeding, it is very difficult

1168
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:30.319
for a judge to set aside a
jury's verdict. In a civil proceeding,

1169
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:34.439
a judge can easily set aside a
jury's verdict. A judge to do it

1170
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:39.000
in a criminal case too, they
can they No, it's not just as

1171
01:27:39.039 --> 01:27:43.319
easy. That's a little different,
is no. Just If a judge decides

1172
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:46.319
to set aside a verdict, he
can do it for any reason that he

1173
01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:54.439
deems all representative of setting it aside. It's his discretion. It's not as

1174
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:57.399
no, no, no, depends
on the jurisdiction. No, a judge.

1175
01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:00.600
See, that's the thing about judges. They do have that ability to

1176
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:05.079
set aside a verdict in any case. It's no harder. All he has

1177
01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:10.439
to do is state why he's setting
it aside and make an order. It's

1178
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:15.760
that simple. But what I'm saying
is our jurisprudence system has already been set

1179
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:25.880
on edge now that we have political
prosecutions that blatantly are political prosecutions. We've

1180
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:30.439
just stepped over the line into a
third world country. And if you think

1181
01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:33.880
it's bad now, it's only going
to get worse now that people see what

1182
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:39.279
they can get away with in our
courts of law. Because it doesn't matter

1183
01:28:39.399 --> 01:28:43.239
that it's just three years down the
road it might finally make it to appeal.

1184
01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:48.079
It's what's going on now. People
have been bankrupted over this January sixth

1185
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:55.119
crap and all the Russian influenced crap
where people were hauled in before the FBI

1186
01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.279
and they said something that they could
turn into line to the FBI, and

1187
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:02.359
then they make our life a live
in hell and ruin them financially for the

1188
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:08.399
rest of their life based off nothing. It's gotten to the point now that

1189
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:12.479
we are in a third world judicial
system. So you can make all the

1190
01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:17.920
comparisons between New York and California and
the federal level all you want. You're

1191
01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:23.159
seeing something that's been alluded to a
point right now that if you think it's

1192
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:28.560
bad, now, just wait.
The fascists are in power and they are

1193
01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:33.680
using whatever means necessary to get what
they want. Now it has moved into

1194
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:39.800
the judicial end of things, and
that's where we're screwed. We have three

1195
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:44.399
proms of government in this country.
Two of them were heavily corrupted. This

1196
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.399
one is the third. And now
you're starting to see the corruption that's in

1197
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:53.840
the judicial system. We've seen it
for years. It really really started coming

1198
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.479
to light once you saw the Russian
craft with Trump and we went through six

1199
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:03.479
years of bullshit and people being prosecuted
for lyon to the FBI or getting caught

1200
01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:09.239
in an contradiction and it turns into
charges of lying to the FBI. And

1201
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:14.159
now you're financially ruined trying to defend
yourself from these assholes in power. And

1202
01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:16.000
you just wait. You think it's
bad, now, it's going to get

1203
01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:20.119
worse when you corrupt that third rail. Worse. Screwed, all right,

1204
01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:24.680
So, according to various According to
various sources, I want to tell you

1205
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:29.840
how wrong you are about this.
Setting aside a jury verdict in all cases.

1206
01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:34.920
You can do this in various civil
judgments. True, However, if

1207
01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:40.199
you do that and you set aside
a not guilty verdict in a criminal case.

1208
01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:44.279
If you attempt to do that,
it is an automatic violation of the

1209
01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:49.680
defendent's fit Amendment rights. That is
in the majority of jurisdictions in the United

1210
01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:56.680
States, the majority. Okay,
So you can set aside a guilty verdict.

1211
01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:00.319
As a judge, it is easier
to do that. There is a

1212
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:03.439
differential between the two things. You
can set it aside because there is a

1213
01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:10.039
problem basically declaring a mistrial and you
can produce a summary verdict, but it

1214
01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:14.600
doesn't stand that easily. They drop
on appeal very easily, unless you have

1215
01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:17.880
an extremely good reason to say that
the process was went wrong, it was

1216
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:23.199
corrupted, the jury was bought off, something like this. That is the

1217
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:27.399
only way that that works. But
when you try and set aside a not

1218
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:32.479
guilty verdict, you got a problem. It doesn't stand in almost every jurisdiction

1219
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:38.319
in the country set aside a not
guilty verdict. That's right. If you

1220
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:42.199
try to set aside a not guilty
verdict, like let's just say political prosecution

1221
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:45.640
judge, I've never heard of anybody
ever setting aside a not guilty verdict.

1222
01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:50.479
That's because they can't go ahead and
take a look at That's what I'm trying

1223
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:54.199
to tell you. In a criminal
case, there's a difference a verdict of

1224
01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:58.039
No, wait, we're talking about
two different things. I'm talking about it's

1225
01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:03.880
easy for a judge to set aside
a prosecution, a conviction in a court

1226
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:10.760
case. I'm not even talking about
not guilty verdicts. That wouldn't even have

1227
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.399
It's not even I wouldn't. That
didn't even enter my lexicon. I don't.

1228
01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:16.600
We're talking about two different things.
I'm trying to just explain that there

1229
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:24.760
is a difference in the rule between
criminal jury verdicts and sibyl. That's all

1230
01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:27.840
I'm trying to explain to you is
that there's a difference there in what can

1231
01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:30.720
and cannot be set aside by a
judge. It is not the same simple

1232
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:35.279
process in a civil case. Though, you can pretty much declare that a

1233
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:39.720
whole bunch of things went wrong and
this this is just was not done correctly

1234
01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:43.880
and the jury misunderstood because et cetera, et cetera, and as an officer

1235
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:45.119
of the court, the judge has
the right to set aside all kinds of

1236
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:53.399
stuff in civil cases criminal cases.
Sorry, your constitution is supposed to have

1237
01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:56.520
supremacy over that. Yeah either no
no, no, no, no no.

1238
01:32:57.239 --> 01:33:00.560
This judge had the ability when the
when the jury case back and say

1239
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:03.960
guilty on all thirty four counts.
He could have very easily said, I'm

1240
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:10.680
setting that verdict aside. It's a
simple process. It's not as easy as

1241
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.199
it is in a civil case,
is my only point. Yes, it

1242
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:16.560
is in criminal cases, and I'm
reading directly from US legal dot com.

1243
01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:21.680
In criminal cases, judges may disregard
a jury's guilty verdict and acquit or grant

1244
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:27.479
a new trial if they believe the
evidence was insufficient to support the decision made

1245
01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:30.600
by the jurors. Judges may also
set aside a verdict if they believe the

1246
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:35.840
verdict was reached on a basis that
violates the US or respective state constitution,

1247
01:33:36.359 --> 01:33:41.920
or if the legal theory on which
the jury based their decision does not conform

1248
01:33:42.039 --> 01:33:46.159
to law. And that is specifically
what we have here. Because the judge

1249
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:53.600
told the jurors that it didn't matter
that they weren't unanimous on whatever proposed crime

1250
01:33:54.199 --> 01:34:00.640
Trump committed, but these lesser felonies
were now brought up to may felonies because

1251
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:06.560
of its direct connection to that crime
that they could basically decide in their own

1252
01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:12.479
minds he was guilty of. This
is the judge could have set this aside

1253
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:18.680
very simply. All he does is
make the order judgment notwithstanding a verdict or

1254
01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:25.479
judgment that sets aside a verdict based
on the fact that there was a problem

1255
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:29.880
in the evidence or procedure. Yeah, it's I'm telling you there's a difference

1256
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:32.439
between civil and criminal. That's the
only thing I'm trying to explain to you.

1257
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:38.640
No, the difference between civil and
criminal is is that a civil trial,

1258
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:42.159
a judge can set aside a verdict
regard and how much money should be

1259
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.800
awarded by the jury to the planet
and those damages. The amount is totally

1260
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:50.960
distinct from compensatory damages. That's where
they get into the degree of what they

1261
01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:56.119
can and can't dismiss or that they
can bring down based on a cap But

1262
01:34:56.279 --> 01:35:01.720
it's as simple for any judge to
set aside any verdict of a jury by

1263
01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:08.359
simply making the order to set the
decision aside, plain and simple plan and

1264
01:35:08.439 --> 01:35:13.039
simy why that's that's in the plain
and simple Listeners to this show go ahead

1265
01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:15.800
and check out what it is.
I'm saying here that there is a difference

1266
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:19.720
between these two things, because find
out for yourselves, and I'll leave it

1267
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:23.359
at that. Jimmy, I'm gonna
put you on hold. I don't want

1268
01:35:23.359 --> 01:35:26.600
to sit and keep arguing about it. But let's see who else is on

1269
01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:30.560
the line. We got a new
caller, and maybe he's got something else

1270
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:34.159
in mind. He wants to discuss, or he wants to continue on anyway,

1271
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:40.600
who do I got? No,
I'm gonna hey, I'll put a

1272
01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:45.119
different fit out there. I gotta
I'll bet a dirty dollar to a shiny

1273
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:50.439
five dollar because the GPS brought up
Canadian beer. My voote would be Mexican

1274
01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:55.560
beer is far better than Canadian beer. How the hell are we supposed to

1275
01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:59.560
make that bet work? Let me
see here, a dollar to a five

1276
01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:03.520
first the ball and second Canadian versus
Mexican beer. What are you telling me?

1277
01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:08.800
Dose Ekies beats out Moulse and what
what do we say? Oh?

1278
01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:12.079
Yeah, oh yeah, okay,
I have no idea how to run this

1279
01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:15.359
bet. Beat Pete. You want
to help me out and tell him now,

1280
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:17.880
there's no way that a dose Akies
is better than a Moulten gold.

1281
01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:20.880
And I don't care who you are
there. You don't compare beer and ale,

1282
01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:28.000
so well what what what is corona
considered? I don't even know beer?

1283
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:31.800
Okay, look man, I don't
even know how to place that bet.

1284
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:34.079
But if somebody wants to take you
up on it, I mean,

1285
01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:38.479
by all means, I don't even
know how to how to measure that one.

1286
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:45.680
It's out there. But more more
seriously, you're talking about food prices.

1287
01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:50.800
I was on last last Saturday's Saturday
Night Anarchy thing. I dropped in

1288
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:55.399
on him and we started talking about
food prices and how nobody can afford to

1289
01:36:55.439 --> 01:37:00.760
eat. But yeah, go ahead, yeah, well I I My family

1290
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:05.359
is multi generational farmers on both sides, and agriculture has changed quite a bit

1291
01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:11.439
that I would look at something that
nobody looks at or discusses, and that's

1292
01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:14.560
the middle man. And the middle
man is run by a cartel and it's

1293
01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:20.800
a JBS and beat Processing, Cargill
and Archers Daniels Midland. To start looking

1294
01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:24.399
in there, and then you're going
to see where your food why your food

1295
01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:28.039
prices are so high? Well,
when you mentioned Cargill, what you're talking

1296
01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:32.399
about is these grocery distribution hubs right, that come in and make these mass

1297
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:39.279
deliveries to a lot of different places. Now, some corporate entities like Walmart

1298
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:43.479
has their own trucks, right,
you know, you'll notice that seven to

1299
01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:46.079
eleven has their own people. Now, I don't know if they own the

1300
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:51.279
trucks or if they've hired a separate
company, but they have a particular set

1301
01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:56.720
of individuals in an area where they
do distribution. And it's all supposed to

1302
01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:02.760
be through the approved stuff that comes
from Southland Corporation. Only you have God,

1303
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:06.479
I'm trying to think of some of
the other names, but there were

1304
01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:11.159
a bunch of them out there at
one point, the big grocery distributors that

1305
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:14.960
I used to have to deal with. And even if you're a convenience store,

1306
01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:16.720
an independent convenience store, you might
be dealing with one of these.

1307
01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:20.520
And yes, indeed, they jack
things up. That's why on that show,

1308
01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:25.880
by the way, we were talking
about these share programs where you go

1309
01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:30.960
to a local person who raises a
handful of cattle, and what do you

1310
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:35.479
do. You buy a portion of
a cow in advance, right, and

1311
01:38:36.039 --> 01:38:40.560
that way you and a couple other
families turn around and divide up the cow.

1312
01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:44.439
When it's time to slaughter it,
and you're supposed to get your share

1313
01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:46.800
of the meat based on your investment, your percentage of whatever came out of

1314
01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:50.359
it. Stuff like that, And
I said, you know that as well

1315
01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:56.600
as when it comes to vegetables and
other commodities that are being grown locally,

1316
01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:00.920
where you might actually have some insight
in that how the food is being created,

1317
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.640
what is being treated with? What
are the farmer's standards. Are they

1318
01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:10.760
using monsanto only seeds or have they
come up with you know, some of

1319
01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:15.520
the what do they call those things? The seeds that are still good and

1320
01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:25.199
haven't been screwed with yet? What
do they call those? Sorry, I'm

1321
01:39:25.279 --> 01:39:28.880
sorry, I lost my train and
fun on the name of the seeds,

1322
01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:31.840
the manipulation. They're not genetically modified
as what I was trying to say.

1323
01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:35.520
Yeah, right, there's a name
for that, but go ahead. Yeah.

1324
01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:41.439
No, The point I was making
is I was talking about the farm,

1325
01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:46.199
of the family farm. What was
the ability to farm. One of

1326
01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:50.920
the things is that the prices have
gone up, the farmers price that they

1327
01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:57.039
sell to a lot of the middle
miss those prices have been suppressed, and

1328
01:39:57.800 --> 01:40:03.199
so what happens is the small gone
out, the big companies and financialization has

1329
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:10.319
bought most of the major farms.
And I've just seen that right that bro

1330
01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:14.479
and the small farmer gets based out, they can no longer compete, right.

1331
01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:16.800
Well, what I was saying on
that program was that we can approach

1332
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:20.920
people, and I did find the
term I'm looking for the organic or non

1333
01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:26.720
GMO seeds is heirloom. They call
them heirloom seeds in some cases. So

1334
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.520
anyway, you could go to a
farmer locally and find out if they're using

1335
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:35.000
heirloom seeds or if they're using the
regular GMO stuff, and sometimes you can

1336
01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:39.960
make an investment in their crops.
Now, these are not big agg companies.

1337
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:43.640
I'm talking about, you know,
the small family farmer, which barely

1338
01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:46.079
exists anymore, no matter how much
they use it as a you know,

1339
01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:49.119
as a whistle out there and tell
you about we are for the small family

1340
01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:55.800
farmers, most of them, not
even some of the deceptions are interesting out

1341
01:40:55.840 --> 01:41:00.600
there where some of these larger or
medium style companies have turned around and turned

1342
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:06.600
some of their workers into allegedly owners
of plots of land right so that they

1343
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:12.600
can qualify for a bunch of these
programs. And meanwhile it's all actually being

1344
01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:15.479
collected by one guy who owns,
you know, a big huge chunk of

1345
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:18.960
land that he's you know, made
partial owners of the people that are actually

1346
01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:23.319
working the land. And it's all
a scam. These guys don't collect any

1347
01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:25.960
money. They just have their name
on a piece of property, so I

1348
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:29.800
guess it helps with their credit rating. But other than that, you know,

1349
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:31.840
you might be able to go find
out and buy yourself a portion in

1350
01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:35.760
advance of something that's being grown,
and that way you could work with a

1351
01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:41.520
local farmer who's got a small farm
because the big agro companies are not going

1352
01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:44.920
to work with you like this,
and you might be able to save some

1353
01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:48.119
money. But here's the sad part
about that. That's not saving you money

1354
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:54.279
anymore either, because whatever they're using
has all been jacked up. You know,

1355
01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:58.119
you go to the local feed supplies
anywhere in this country, you're gonna

1356
01:41:58.119 --> 01:42:02.359
find out, guess what everything,
whether it's you know, the vaccination for

1357
01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:08.199
your dogs to not have rabies,
or it is you know, organic sprays

1358
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.920
that they might try to purchase or
feed for the animals or whatever. Yeah,

1359
01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:15.239
all that stuff is jacked up.
Now, So where do you get

1360
01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:21.960
relief from a the biochemical nightmare that
is coming out of the big agro companies.

1361
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:27.000
And b can you get a price
break anywhere anymore? Is my big

1362
01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.600
question? And guess what. Out
of six guys on that show, nobody's

1363
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:33.399
actually got the answer. Nobody knows. And they're from you know, all

1364
01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:36.000
different parts of the country. I
mean from Texas, where you know,

1365
01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:42.359
there is some people working on getting
a beef agreements, you know, with

1366
01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:45.079
individuals so that they can buy into
the cows, like I was talking about

1367
01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:48.600
at the beginning. Here there are
people doing that. And guess what,

1368
01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:56.359
because of the other you know costs
that come into play here, none of

1369
01:42:56.439 --> 01:42:59.880
it is saving anybody any money.
You might have a shot at getting healthier

1370
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:02.199
food, though, and you could
get it locally, which you know,

1371
01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:06.039
I believe in supporting a local economy
as opposed to you know, supporting an

1372
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:11.800
international corporation. But I think that
we've reached a screene point where there is

1373
01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:16.079
no price break and there's almost no
reliable way to escape the you know now

1374
01:43:16.239 --> 01:43:21.560
bear as opposed to monsanto, you
know, cartel when it comes to seeds

1375
01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:26.720
and growing anything. Now, maybe
I'm wrong, Danny, Maybe you know

1376
01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:30.319
something about this because you're a multi
generational farm person. Maybe I'm wrong,

1377
01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:35.199
tell me about it. You're not
wrong, You're not wrong. I mean,

1378
01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:40.279
if you're trying to start like a
family farm, you're beholden. You

1379
01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:44.479
know you've got to get GM to
get loans to farm bills. Right basically

1380
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:48.600
catered to the large agribusiness. But
one thing that fortunate work I'm here in

1381
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:54.640
northern California is almost all year round. I can go to farm rooms markets

1382
01:43:54.680 --> 01:43:59.199
and we can get fresh fruit and
vegetables. Matter of fact, we've a

1383
01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:02.680
my home, made a big horse
for my life's made a wonderful garden.

1384
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:06.560
And that effect we have an abundance
will be given away so and there will

1385
01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:11.840
be no testicides. It'll be as
organic as we can get. Well,

1386
01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:15.199
one I wish I lived near you, and even in Georgia. Here,

1387
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:18.640
you know there are people that maybe
not I don't see farmers' markets very often,

1388
01:44:19.239 --> 01:44:23.159
and I tried to go to one
not too long ago that wasn't there,

1389
01:44:23.239 --> 01:44:27.720
even though it's said on the internet
it was occasionally, believe it or

1390
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.800
not, at flea markets. There
are people now showing up and this is

1391
01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:35.760
a newer phenomena I understand now.
Maybe I'm wrong about this too, but

1392
01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:41.000
this is apparently a newer thing that's
happening in a lot of local communities where

1393
01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:45.680
there are people who have you know, a big garden at their home and

1394
01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:48.439
are bringing their extra vegetables to the
flea market. Okay, now I'm not

1395
01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:54.720
saying, you know about the quality
or anything, but in some cases these

1396
01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:59.119
people are selling you know, home
grown for cheaper than what you might get

1397
01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:00.399
at the grocery store. And I
don't know, maybe you got a better

1398
01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:04.600
shot as opposed to buying you know, Mexican tomatoes along with your you know,

1399
01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:09.760
South American bananas and god knows where
the hell the lettuce came from.

1400
01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:14.720
That's probably filthy as hell, you
know, in your local supermarket. You

1401
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:18.840
might do better go into the flea
market for some fresh produce every couple of

1402
01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:21.479
weeks. It's a weird phenomenon,
and that's what I've been hearing about,

1403
01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:26.279
and I've seen it here in Georgia
at Smileys, which, by the way,

1404
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:28.600
BPT, if you come to visit
me at Georgia again, I really

1405
01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:30.319
do want to make a trip to
Smiley's if we ever get a chance on

1406
01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:34.640
a weekend and show you this place
because I don't know. I love flea

1407
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:36.880
markets. They are a lot of
fun. And I'm telling you if you

1408
01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:42.239
can find some organic or affordable food
there, go go do it. I

1409
01:45:42.319 --> 01:45:45.399
mean, because we all need a
price break here. But Danny, you

1410
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:47.640
got any advice for anybody as far
as price breaks or how to get healthier

1411
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:51.720
food or anything else aside from the
obvious, which is if you have land

1412
01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:57.159
available and the wherewithal to do so, grow anything you can yourself. What

1413
01:45:57.319 --> 01:46:01.079
else you got for people outside of
that? I was, I was just

1414
01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:05.199
I would just cojere to the ground. I mean where you were here.

1415
01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:12.359
We have several places within I'm within
ten minutes getting fresh fruit and vegetables usually

1416
01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:15.000
on the weekends. The city I
live in they put up the place.

1417
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:20.960
Sacramento has several they have co ops
with they just you know, they're like

1418
01:46:21.319 --> 01:46:28.159
they're just they call them, you
know, natural food markets and organic farmers

1419
01:46:28.399 --> 01:46:32.399
or small bit family farmers. They
sell the products there. And I know

1420
01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:40.359
we found a particular three range draink
meat company. They grow their beef,

1421
01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:43.960
and my daughter and my wife they'll
go in and buy meat and we'll put

1422
01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:46.439
it all in the freezer, and
you know, it's pretty good stuff,

1423
01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:51.159
you know what. You know what
I wish I would see re emerge.

1424
01:46:51.239 --> 01:46:55.159
And you're gonna think I'm nuts because
the way I describe New Jersey all the

1425
01:46:55.239 --> 01:46:58.399
time. But bear with me a
second. When I was first, you

1426
01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:00.760
know, the earliest adulthood, I
mean, I got right out as soon

1427
01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:03.840
as I can, got my apartment. I finished high school in my own

1428
01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:10.319
apartment. Right. One of the
great things that somebody's mom helped me discover

1429
01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:14.960
was that there was Now I know, everybody thinks I'm nuts when I say

1430
01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:16.239
this, and people are going to
laugh, but you know, Jersey it

1431
01:47:16.319 --> 01:47:20.680
does say it's the garden state.
At one time there was lots of stuff

1432
01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:24.439
being grown there. I know it's
funny to a lot of people nowadays,

1433
01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:27.560
but believe it or not, there
is a lot of agriculture in a certain

1434
01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:30.000
part of New Jersey. It's not
a huge state, but there is a

1435
01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:35.279
tremendous swath of it, you know, comparatively speaking, that is devoted to

1436
01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:42.479
agriculture. So what happens is there
were in let's see, in nineteen ninety,

1437
01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:46.880
in nineteen eighty nine and ninety there
was what they called food cooperatives and

1438
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:50.119
what you were able to do.
Is you end up with a bunch of

1439
01:47:50.199 --> 01:47:56.720
groceries during half of the year.
Okay, once a month, you could

1440
01:47:56.760 --> 01:48:00.720
go there and collect groceries for half
a year. And it was interesting because

1441
01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:06.239
it was all stuff that was grown
and then collected and brought to the cooperative

1442
01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:10.520
area. And what it was is
that you had to pay in advance.

1443
01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:12.960
Okay, you paid, like you
know, if I paid right now,

1444
01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:16.399
say I would go around July first. If I paid around June first,

1445
01:48:16.479 --> 01:48:23.560
and go around July first to the
cooperative and collect a percentage of what was

1446
01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:28.920
brought together by the food cooperative.
And that money was supposed to be divided

1447
01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:33.760
among all the people that either you
know, you know, kept the animals

1448
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:38.520
and then slaughtered them and brought them
in, brought in portions of them,

1449
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:42.600
whether it was chickens or it was
you know, occasionally we got some beef,

1450
01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:45.640
but not too often. But there
were chickens and other things that were

1451
01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:51.039
brought in there. And then there
was also carrots and cucumbers and all kinds

1452
01:48:51.039 --> 01:48:57.399
of stuff that was either grown in
large private gardens that had become part of

1453
01:48:57.479 --> 01:49:01.960
the cooperative or on small farms in
New Jersey. And you would get a

1454
01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:06.479
collection of things. Now, the
only difficulty was that you had no predictive

1455
01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:11.560
nature. It was sort of like
you signed up for everything, and whether

1456
01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:15.319
it was a place that was,
you know, independently making bread out of

1457
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:17.359
wheat they grew, which, by
the way, if you can get bread

1458
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:20.560
that's made from wheat that's grown locally, to you, it is the smarter

1459
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:25.760
thing to do for your health.
If you're living in an area and you

1460
01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:29.920
take the local wheat, you're much
better off eating that bread as opposed to

1461
01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:33.359
the bread from wherever the hell they've
been storing what they're calling grain somewhere else.

1462
01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:38.960
But anyway, that's a side issue. But vegetables and meat, mostly

1463
01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:45.119
vegetables grown locally, could be collected
from all these resources, all these places

1464
01:49:45.279 --> 01:49:49.199
and brought together if people organized it
into what they called food cooperatives. Now

1465
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:54.600
I've heard that term used in recent
years, but I'm thinking to myself,

1466
01:49:54.720 --> 01:50:00.279
this is a way that small farmers
and gardeners could get together. Even if

1467
01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:04.279
you just got people together with gardens, and by percentage, if you got

1468
01:50:04.359 --> 01:50:11.319
you know, say, one hundred
growers together of various things, this could

1469
01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:13.960
be a way to do it.
They get funding from the fact that people

1470
01:50:14.039 --> 01:50:18.079
pay the month before and they get
funding throughout your growing season depending on where

1471
01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:23.079
you are. I mean, obviously
this would change based on location, and

1472
01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:27.600
you could collectively bring it together.
It benefits the person buying the food because

1473
01:50:27.640 --> 01:50:32.079
they're getting locally grown food. It
encourages people to buy and to create their

1474
01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:36.800
gardens and their small farms or to
keep their animals. It encourages them to

1475
01:50:36.880 --> 01:50:42.159
do that locally. I don't see
how that's a lose situation at all.

1476
01:50:42.399 --> 01:50:44.760
If you're getting a fair amount of
food for what it is you have to

1477
01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:49.159
invest. Now. Back then,
I could put fifty dollars in and that

1478
01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:51.359
was, you know, I think
the minimum. You got fifty dollars,

1479
01:50:51.439 --> 01:50:57.359
and it bought you a share of
what is collected all together. In some

1480
01:50:57.560 --> 01:51:01.720
months it was bigger than others out
way more than I would have gotten taken

1481
01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:06.920
that fifty dollars to food Town or
shopright or shopping bag or whatever the hell

1482
01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:10.880
was locally available at the time.
I remember it was food Town and Acme

1483
01:51:11.600 --> 01:51:15.039
and stuff like that in Jersey.
But it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.

1484
01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:18.439
You got better grown stuff, cleaner
things by people that actually care about it

1485
01:51:18.479 --> 01:51:24.560
and take care of their plants and
their animals locally. Not saying it's flawless,

1486
01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:28.359
but it's an idea. And you
know, the only thing in Jersey

1487
01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:30.680
you couldn't do the milk. But
in some locations you can even get raw

1488
01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:34.960
fresh milk straight off the farm.
In Pennsylvania you were able to do that,

1489
01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:38.479
but it was not legal in Jersey. I used to actually have somebody

1490
01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:42.399
that went to Pennsylvania and would collect
money from a bunch of people and come

1491
01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:47.720
back with a trunk full of glass
bottle milk, and you had to bring

1492
01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:51.640
back your bottles in order to get
a refill on the farm. And it

1493
01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:57.640
was thought of as a private transaction
because technically speaking, you're not allowed to

1494
01:51:58.159 --> 01:52:00.399
sell your raw milk straight from the
farm nless the FDA approves it and you

1495
01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:04.119
have it cooked and sanitized and tested
and da da da da dah. But

1496
01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:08.960
I was getting raw milk from a
Pennsylvania farm because I was part of a

1497
01:52:09.039 --> 01:52:12.760
milk club along with the guy who
made the trip from Jersey who we all

1498
01:52:12.840 --> 01:52:15.239
had to, you know, throw
an extra tip a couple dollars worth of

1499
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:18.520
gas from everybody filling up his trunk
with glass bottles. He actually made a

1500
01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:23.640
little money, going for a day
to Pennsylvania and coming back with our milk,

1501
01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:27.159
not saying we had enough milk for
a month, but it was another

1502
01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:30.640
way to attack this. And these
are the kind of things that I think

1503
01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:33.560
could save a lot of people who
are not able to keep fed. I've

1504
01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:39.359
been having trouble keeping my small family
fed. I know almost everybody I talked

1505
01:52:39.399 --> 01:52:42.920
to is having the same trouble.
And I want to know, do you

1506
01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:45.680
guys have any thoughts on that.
I'll start with Danny, I'll go to

1507
01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:48.279
be Pete and then we'll go back
to Jimmy and see if anybody else calls

1508
01:52:48.359 --> 01:52:51.399
in. But what are your thoughts
on this? Guys? Is there a

1509
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:56.680
way out that we could start to, I don't know, cooperate with one

1510
01:52:56.720 --> 01:52:59.199
another. I mean, you know, don't just I can't go to that

1511
01:52:59.279 --> 01:53:02.760
farm. He's a trunk who cares. It's about food. It's not about

1512
01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:06.079
politics, it's not about race,
it's not about it's about food, and

1513
01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:10.720
you get it from a local person. I think it's a win win situation.

1514
01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:14.319
So what are your guys thoughts on
co ops? Danny, I'll start

1515
01:53:14.359 --> 01:53:20.800
with you. Yeah, I think
co ops, any type of local is

1516
01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:27.640
a good idea and everybody's got to
eat, you know, so anything that

1517
01:53:28.039 --> 01:53:33.439
you know, I just would enjoy. In California, there's quite a bit

1518
01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:40.479
of a a farm to fork movement
here. I mean, still the big

1519
01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:44.920
agg is going to be king because
they've got the deeper pockets, because there's

1520
01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:49.720
a lot there's definitely an underground movement, not an underground but a more local,

1521
01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:57.199
cooperative movement to move towards that type
of They seem when I've gotten they

1522
01:53:57.239 --> 01:54:00.880
seem to be busy and a lot
of oil shops and the same farmers.

1523
01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:03.000
So you get it, like you
said, you get a good idea of

1524
01:54:03.399 --> 01:54:08.680
where your food's coming from. Well, and sometimes you feel better you help

1525
01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:11.760
the neighbor and you get a better
value. Well. And there's the thing,

1526
01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:15.000
right is I feel like, and
maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm dead

1527
01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:18.920
wrong about this, but I feel
like if you go farm to table and

1528
01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:23.800
you're able to do this on a
local level, like I said, it

1529
01:54:23.880 --> 01:54:26.600
seems like a win win deal to
me. And it seems like one of

1530
01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:30.960
the ways that we can fight back
against what's happening right now. I don't

1531
01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:33.479
know, maybe I'm crazy, but
I feel like this is one of those

1532
01:54:33.520 --> 01:54:36.319
things that could add, you know, a little bit of strength to our

1533
01:54:36.359 --> 01:54:42.119
ability to survive wherever it is we're
sitting. I'm all for it, and

1534
01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:46.680
I think we should investigate ways to
encourage this or maybe it already exists where

1535
01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:50.399
you the listener are sitting and listening
to me right now. I don't know.

1536
01:54:51.319 --> 01:54:56.119
I am not saying that I know
this, but this is a big

1537
01:54:56.520 --> 01:55:00.199
deal in my mind. Okay,
I think this is one of the those

1538
01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:01.920
things that we have to do.
This isn't like, oh, wouldn't that

1539
01:55:02.039 --> 01:55:04.359
be nice. I think this is
one of those things we're going to have

1540
01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:11.000
to do soon in order to make
life livable. Man, I don't know.

1541
01:55:11.359 --> 01:55:15.920
Maybe I'm wrong. So Danny,
tell me what what what else do

1542
01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:17.119
you think about this? You have
anything else you want to add? I

1543
01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:21.079
mean, I want to see if
you're and Jim James has an idea you

1544
01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:27.920
know about this or just don't think
Well, we're also real quick. I

1545
01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:34.199
know I have heard some on some
public radio stations that there's actually urban farm

1546
01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:39.560
has become quite popular, like where
there's areas where they're kind of like an

1547
01:55:39.600 --> 01:55:43.239
area may be blighted and there might
be a lot and they're starting you know,

1548
01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:48.439
co operative urban farming, and I
think I agree. Anything we can

1549
01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:58.000
do to kind of uh add some
form of competition in a healthy way,

1550
01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:02.279
it would be would be value to
everybody, especially the conserner. That would

1551
01:56:02.279 --> 01:56:05.159
be my thoughts, right, And
I mean, look if it if it's

1552
01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:11.119
succeeded enough to take a bite out
of some of these you know, local

1553
01:56:11.359 --> 01:56:15.520
extortion projects they call grocery stores.
Like I know, BP, you didn't

1554
01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:17.520
like it when I brought up Pigley
Wiggily, but I'm telling you they're robbing

1555
01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:21.800
us here in this neighborhood. They
have the highest prices of any I mean,

1556
01:56:21.960 --> 01:56:27.199
they are higher priced than Kroger or
you know. The only thing they're

1557
01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:30.800
not higher price than is like,
you know, the organic food store.

1558
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:34.199
Other than that, just to buy
crap. They are charging you more at

1559
01:56:34.279 --> 01:56:39.880
Pigley Wiggly than anywhere else. I
mean, this is why people are shopping

1560
01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:45.520
at Family Dollar and the Dollar Tree
for groceries. They're trying to escape Pigley

1561
01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:48.920
Wiggly, and some of them can't. They don't have the mobility to even

1562
01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:51.439
go a couple more miles away.
I mean, it's just what it is,

1563
01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:56.199
be Pete, but it's not Pigley
Wiggily's fault. It's just what happens

1564
01:56:56.800 --> 01:57:03.319
in certain urban environments. Your thoughts
be pete or did I put you to

1565
01:57:03.399 --> 01:57:09.640
sleep? No, you're not gonna
you know, you're not gonna change my

1566
01:57:10.079 --> 01:57:13.479
opinion of the pig. If they're
charging more of that area, they're charging

1567
01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:18.239
what they think they can get away
with. The American dream. But when

1568
01:57:18.279 --> 01:57:23.960
it comes to our state is heavily
ag. It's our number one export UH

1569
01:57:24.159 --> 01:57:28.960
in this state. And we do
have some excellent programs from field to fork

1570
01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:32.920
for I mean, it's amazing what
our AGG department will do to help people

1571
01:57:33.039 --> 01:57:35.920
get in the business. If you
want to raise it, catch it,

1572
01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:40.880
grow it, they will help you
get it to market. They have specific

1573
01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:45.039
programs set up for that. So
the problem is this, you know,

1574
01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:46.920
most people that go to the grocery
store, they don't even know where's stuffs

1575
01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:51.319
coming from. You have a company
like Smithfield, largest port producer in the

1576
01:57:51.479 --> 01:57:56.159
US, is now owned by the
largest port producer in the world, which

1577
01:57:56.239 --> 01:58:02.399
is China. Other companies that have
been bought out heavily through these like companies

1578
01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:08.800
like Berkshire Halfway buying into certain well
let me let me ask you. Yeah,

1579
01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:12.600
let me ask you a geographically specific
question then, because I know for

1580
01:58:12.680 --> 01:58:18.399
a fact there's plenty of hog farms
in North Carolina. Okay, local guys

1581
01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:24.560
raising hogs, right, plenty of
them. Now, how is it that

1582
01:58:24.840 --> 01:58:27.560
if you want to buy a pork
product and I don't really eat pork,

1583
01:58:27.680 --> 01:58:30.399
but if you want to buy pork, how is it that you're not going

1584
01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:34.600
to one of these local guys?
Or is there such a thing as this

1585
01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:39.680
cooperative ideal that I was talking about? Is there something like that so that

1586
01:58:39.800 --> 01:58:44.039
BP could go get bacon from a
guy who's making it right there in North

1587
01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:47.319
Carolina? Or are you you know? Is that not there? Is there

1588
01:58:47.439 --> 01:58:53.800
not a connection between You've got independent
stores other than your big grocery stores and

1589
01:58:53.840 --> 01:59:00.760
things like that. The Nahunta Pork
Center up north of Goldsborough, nahunas one

1590
01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:03.840
of the biggest pork for you know, processors in the area. Buy anything

1591
01:59:03.920 --> 01:59:11.119
there. There's local, there's a
store, there's a small store in is

1592
01:59:11.159 --> 01:59:14.000
it pink Kill or Deep pink Kill? I believe it is. You can

1593
01:59:14.039 --> 01:59:15.920
go down there by a whole hall, get it butchered anyway that you want.

1594
01:59:16.880 --> 01:59:21.880
That's the thing about Pigley wigglei'es now
Pigley Wiggily still keeps an active butcher

1595
01:59:23.399 --> 01:59:27.039
in their stores to do their own
butchering when it comes to I mean,

1596
01:59:27.119 --> 01:59:30.640
they'll buy beef, they'll buy pork, you know, whole halves and cut

1597
01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:36.880
them down for sale. It's your
big companies like Smithfield and Tyson and things

1598
01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:43.840
like that that are being influenced by
the you know, the the investment firms

1599
01:59:43.920 --> 01:59:46.840
and and companies from other countries that
you know, want to come here and

1600
01:59:46.920 --> 01:59:49.800
buy in. Like I said,
Smithfield was uh. They were based in

1601
01:59:49.920 --> 01:59:54.800
Virginia for years and years and years
and they were just bought out by the

1602
01:59:54.960 --> 02:00:00.279
largest pork manufacturer in China. So
you know, Smithfield Foods, you weren't

1603
02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:04.079
gonna see you guys had a chicken
Yeah, you guys had a chicken plant

1604
02:00:04.399 --> 02:00:10.319
that was not far from where I
lived in Kingston. And we've had several.

1605
02:00:10.520 --> 02:00:14.399
You've got the you've got the butterball
turkey plant that's up in Goldsborough,

1606
02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:19.880
but right there in Kingston, you've
got oh crap, uh, not Smithfield.

1607
02:00:20.479 --> 02:00:24.720
The label looks like Smithfield though it's
something like that. It's it's a

1608
02:00:24.960 --> 02:00:28.159
it begins with an S something Farms. Let me look it up. Yeah,

1609
02:00:28.239 --> 02:00:33.840
they built built a huge feed meal
process to process all the food that's

1610
02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:39.640
going to their chicken houses. And
they've got a processing center which used to

1611
02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:48.920
be the old Frosty Morn packing plant. Morne was a local beat product company,

1612
02:00:48.960 --> 02:00:51.800
hot dogs, maloney, things like
that years ago. Right now,

1613
02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:56.319
there was not Smithfield, let me
look them up. Yeah. Now,

1614
02:00:56.399 --> 02:01:00.239
there was a place that was just
outside of the borders of the very very

1615
02:01:00.319 --> 02:01:06.600
black part of Kinston that had a
grocery store that was sourcing literally it's hot

1616
02:01:06.680 --> 02:01:12.319
dogs and stuff from some place locally, and I think it was the hot

1617
02:01:12.359 --> 02:01:15.279
dogs in the chicken mainly that they
had coming in there and that was being

1618
02:01:15.359 --> 02:01:19.039
made locally. And Sanderson Farms they
were put out of business, the one

1619
02:01:19.119 --> 02:01:24.159
that was right outside there. Yeah, Sanderson is the ones that came in

1620
02:01:24.840 --> 02:01:28.960
back in the nineties and built up
real heavily in this area. They've got

1621
02:01:29.119 --> 02:01:31.800
a lot of the chicken houses.
Now. Tyson used to be. Tyson

1622
02:01:31.880 --> 02:01:38.479
had a bunch of houses down here
the Central Soil, which is another company.

1623
02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:41.920
I think they're located. I want
to stay out of Arkansas, and

1624
02:01:41.960 --> 02:01:47.760
I'm not sure they had a lot
of houses in here and over time Sanderson

1625
02:01:47.840 --> 02:01:49.680
said, hey, this is a
good place for us to go in and

1626
02:01:49.720 --> 02:01:54.119
build a processing center. So it's
a whole new it's not that old.

1627
02:01:54.159 --> 02:01:56.880
They have a lot of turnover.
They employ a lot of people, a

1628
02:01:56.920 --> 02:02:00.960
lot of migrants work there. But
they've gone the whole route. They not

1629
02:02:00.079 --> 02:02:04.760
only built a processing plant, but
they also built the feed meal operations so

1630
02:02:04.880 --> 02:02:10.720
that they could service their farms.
You know. They they have brooding houses

1631
02:02:10.800 --> 02:02:13.760
and things like that where they provide
the chickens to the growers and then they

1632
02:02:13.800 --> 02:02:17.439
come and pick them up when they
get of weight for processing. It's the

1633
02:02:17.479 --> 02:02:20.279
whole big, you know, convolute
thing. But yeah, we've got Smithfield,

1634
02:02:20.640 --> 02:02:27.000
We've got Butterball turkeys. We've got
House of Rayford Turkeys, which was

1635
02:02:27.039 --> 02:02:32.359
brought out by butter Ball. Murphy
Brown is probably the biggest hog producer in

1636
02:02:32.560 --> 02:02:39.520
this end of the state. And
there Murphy Brown is actually a subsidiary of

1637
02:02:39.600 --> 02:02:43.359
Smithfield Foods. Even the guy who
ran even the guy who I was working

1638
02:02:43.399 --> 02:02:47.279
for as a as a commercial glass
glacier, and we were putting in commercial

1639
02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:51.600
and institutional glass, I mean in
schools, prisons, all that stuff.

1640
02:02:51.640 --> 02:02:55.600
I mean, I was carrying around
hundreds and hundreds of pounds of freaking you

1641
02:02:55.640 --> 02:03:00.279
know, all sorts of different glass
uh and and bulletproof stuff and all that.

1642
02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:03.800
You know, that guy had hog
farms. It was like it was

1643
02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:06.840
wild man. It was. It
was like it seemed like anybody who had,

1644
02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:10.800
you know, a pretty well established
business of one type or another,

1645
02:03:11.159 --> 02:03:15.720
some sort of you know, a
service thing that kind of was part of

1646
02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:20.079
servicing something else. Larger people that
you know, did blacktop work stuff like

1647
02:03:20.159 --> 02:03:23.159
that, they all seemed to have. Oh yeah, and also I own

1648
02:03:23.199 --> 02:03:26.039
a hog farm. I couldn't figure
it out when I was there, but

1649
02:03:26.079 --> 02:03:30.119
I was sitting there saying to myself, how is it that Smithfield and these

1650
02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:32.119
other companies have squeezed them out?
And I remember that grocery store, like

1651
02:03:32.199 --> 02:03:35.760
I said, going out of business
that was locally sourcing at the very least

1652
02:03:35.840 --> 02:03:40.399
chicken and hot dogs. I know, it sounds crazy, but they told

1653
02:03:40.520 --> 02:03:44.159
us when we went there that they
were basically being put out of business by

1654
02:03:44.239 --> 02:03:46.760
the big boys, like they had
arranged it so that they could no longer

1655
02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:49.800
be there. They weren't gonna they
were starting to, you know, make

1656
02:03:49.840 --> 02:03:54.560
it more restrictive what it is they
could bring in. They were wanting regulations,

1657
02:03:54.600 --> 02:03:59.159
Health Department. Everything came down on
their heads and they shut it down.

1658
02:03:59.640 --> 02:04:01.279
And that is the end of local
sourcing. So you have no idea

1659
02:04:01.319 --> 02:04:04.800
where happen to crap was coming from
that they were packaging there. And also

1660
02:04:05.039 --> 02:04:08.960
you had no idea as to whether
you were actually able to buy the stuff

1661
02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:13.000
that was being packaged locally, even
at the food line or wherever else.

1662
02:04:14.199 --> 02:04:18.520
I don't understand this shuffling food through
our system. It's like Danny was saying,

1663
02:04:18.800 --> 02:04:23.399
in the middle midlines around here and
in this state, food lines went

1664
02:04:23.439 --> 02:04:26.920
through. They redid all their stores. They took out the basic, they

1665
02:04:26.960 --> 02:04:30.279
took out the butcher. Yeah,
now all their stuff is processed, packaged.

1666
02:04:30.319 --> 02:04:32.159
When he comes in the door just
goes from the you know, the

1667
02:04:32.239 --> 02:04:36.479
frozen truck to the frozen case,
but it's on the shelf, but it's

1668
02:04:36.800 --> 02:04:42.279
all delivered now. So Pigley Wiggley, some of your I GAS, which

1669
02:04:42.439 --> 02:04:48.479
was what International Grocers Association or some
some of their stores still have in house

1670
02:04:48.560 --> 02:04:54.199
butchers. I know there's there's a
group of stores here called carly C's.

1671
02:04:54.319 --> 02:05:00.680
They've got I think eight or nine
stores around the done area. They have

1672
02:05:00.319 --> 02:05:05.640
their in house butchers, so you
can still find them. It's hard to

1673
02:05:06.079 --> 02:05:11.079
you know, when when the company's
biggest food line, which you know everybody

1674
02:05:11.159 --> 02:05:15.199
thinks is American company, No,
they're owned by a Scandinavian company, have

1675
02:05:15.319 --> 02:05:18.680
been for years. IM really look
at who owns the big companies now with

1676
02:05:19.000 --> 02:05:23.239
most of them have foreign dies.
One of the biggest, one of the

1677
02:05:23.279 --> 02:05:27.359
biggest food companies in the US is
Nestley and they're you know, they're partially

1678
02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:33.039
owned by uh, China and other
countries, so they're they're getting their fingers

1679
02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:39.600
into it. It's getting harder,
but luckily our state has the ability to

1680
02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:44.800
find local sourcing. You know,
if you I don't know how many people

1681
02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:49.520
watch PBS, but there was a
program on there where a local chef they're

1682
02:05:49.560 --> 02:05:57.640
in Kinston started a restaurant and was
buying all of her stuff locally and what

1683
02:05:57.840 --> 02:06:01.119
was it the farmer and the chef
uh Nia has now turned into like a

1684
02:06:01.199 --> 02:06:05.880
family style restaurant because the owner has
decided to invest more time down in the

1685
02:06:05.960 --> 02:06:11.159
South Carolina area. So she's kind
of slowly making her way out of Kinston.

1686
02:06:11.239 --> 02:06:14.359
And you know, she was very
popular. She's written some very popular

1687
02:06:14.439 --> 02:06:18.840
books and it was a program on
PBS for several years the series ran.

1688
02:06:19.079 --> 02:06:25.359
So there are programs in place.
We're lucky in this state. There's a

1689
02:06:25.399 --> 02:06:30.239
lot of states that don't have the
programs set up that our Agriculture Department,

1690
02:06:30.600 --> 02:06:33.520
and a lot of it is done
through our agg department, our local social

1691
02:06:33.600 --> 02:06:43.720
services, our local community colleges.
There's a big push for especially with the

1692
02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:48.279
new technology that's entering the field of
agriculture. It's amazing some of the things

1693
02:06:48.319 --> 02:06:57.359
that come out of North Carolina State
in the way of processing and making the

1694
02:06:57.560 --> 02:07:03.399
small farmer viable in today's big market
competition. Well, it's really set up.

1695
02:07:03.479 --> 02:07:08.079
Well, I'm really proud of what
the state has done agriculturally to help

1696
02:07:08.560 --> 02:07:11.600
the small farmer. Yeah, but
do you have access to it? Is

1697
02:07:11.720 --> 02:07:15.439
my question as a consumer? Do
you have access? As a consumer?

1698
02:07:15.560 --> 02:07:19.319
Yes, do you have access?
There's our ag department runs a got to

1699
02:07:19.359 --> 02:07:25.520
Be n C program where they actually
go out and promote getting these local products

1700
02:07:25.720 --> 02:07:31.920
to our local markets and helping them
move out of North Carolina into regional markets

1701
02:07:32.319 --> 02:07:36.159
and then being able to sell their
goods, you know, say the entire

1702
02:07:36.199 --> 02:07:40.520
East coast. All right, but
that doesn't sound like you personally have direct

1703
02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:43.960
access. It's like they put it
in your stores and then you got see

1704
02:07:44.079 --> 02:07:47.239
more middleman. Jimmy, do you
guys have stuff like this where you are,

1705
02:07:47.479 --> 02:07:50.920
like I was talking about with the
cooperatives? Or can you get organic

1706
02:07:51.039 --> 02:07:55.119
or locally grown stuff? Or hell, would you even want it where you're

1707
02:07:55.119 --> 02:07:58.279
at? I don't know, you
know, tell me what do they have

1708
02:07:58.439 --> 02:08:00.840
that kind of stuff for you?
Do you have says to it locally?

1709
02:08:01.000 --> 02:08:03.840
Is that a possibility? And by
the way, we're coming toward the end

1710
02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:07.600
of the show unless uh, either
a we get some new callers or b

1711
02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:11.560
uh somebody makes a donation. So
that's the end of that pretty soon.

1712
02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:13.560
I'm gonna let people give their final
word. But Jimmy, you got any

1713
02:08:13.600 --> 02:08:24.520
thoughts on this? Uh? Uh? Yeah, there's probably that stuff around.

1714
02:08:24.359 --> 02:08:28.840
But my fear is if I did
that stuff, I'd don't look like

1715
02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:33.039
Bobby Kennedy Junior. Full of worms
and mercury. Oh you're already weird.

1716
02:08:35.199 --> 02:08:39.239
Youre weird? Yeah, fair enough, worried about the brain worms? I

1717
02:08:39.359 --> 02:08:43.199
got you. That's fine. If
that's your worry, man, I'm with

1718
02:08:43.319 --> 02:08:48.039
you. It's okay, sucker.
Rather go with the good old process.

1719
02:08:48.239 --> 02:08:54.039
Food did not have to get dewormed. Mm hmm. So instead of I

1720
02:08:54.279 --> 02:08:58.920
hunt here and I cut open deer
and I see they have tuberculosis. Sec

1721
02:08:58.079 --> 02:09:03.039
fish them open. I see these
black spots all inside them. They're full

1722
02:09:03.079 --> 02:09:09.640
of worms. You couldn't live office
after you die before age fifty, just

1723
02:09:09.760 --> 02:09:13.039
like one hundred years ago. Wow. Okay, well, if that's the

1724
02:09:13.159 --> 02:09:16.479
case, I mean, you know, I'm hoping that's not the case here

1725
02:09:16.520 --> 02:09:18.399
in Georgia. But then again,
I haven't slaughtered an animal in Georgia,

1726
02:09:18.479 --> 02:09:26.520
so I don't know, only that
the bullbine the bowbye flew or whatever.

1727
02:09:26.640 --> 02:09:31.439
Huh Okay, hey, fair enough, So b Pete, We're about ready

1728
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:37.600
to close out the show. You
got any thoughts? No ours, another

1729
02:09:37.680 --> 02:09:41.600
good show. I even helped two
hours flew by pretty quick. All I

1730
02:09:41.640 --> 02:09:46.520
can say is looking forward to doing
it next week. Other than that,

1731
02:09:46.520 --> 02:09:54.000
appreciate Jimmy for calling in and our
other caller from California there. Yeah,

1732
02:09:54.039 --> 02:09:56.239
I've opened up the line and they
helped make the show. Definitely, absolutely

1733
02:09:56.319 --> 02:10:01.159
realize we got through two hours that
we were really ever even touched on the

1734
02:10:01.760 --> 02:10:05.239
Trump issue very much. So no, you could consider that a win.

1735
02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:09.840
Shut Thank god I did not.
I was so not looking forward to like

1736
02:10:09.920 --> 02:10:15.000
two hours of drowning in that,
but who knows. Next week is another

1737
02:10:15.079 --> 02:10:18.399
option. And for you guys,
look, I've got Danny and I've got

1738
02:10:18.479 --> 02:10:20.199
Jimmy, both on the open line
right now, So if either one of

1739
02:10:20.279 --> 02:10:24.159
you wants to jump in and interrupt
me, do it. But otherwise,

1740
02:10:24.880 --> 02:10:28.640
I think I'm going to put a
cap on this one for the week and

1741
02:10:28.199 --> 02:10:31.800
tell you that no, no,
Aaron Franz tonight, but he'll be back

1742
02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:35.520
next week along with Uncle. I
think they had a soccer game or something

1743
02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:39.279
to do. But I do appreciate
all you guys who have decided to listen,

1744
02:10:39.319 --> 02:10:41.319
and if you're catching this on the
replay, I appreciate you as well.

1745
02:10:41.720 --> 02:10:45.319
We're adding new things to the replays, by the way, I don't

1746
02:10:45.319 --> 02:10:48.399
know if anybody noticed, but we
got some May Brussel stuff running, which

1747
02:10:48.479 --> 02:10:54.079
everybody said I should do, so
I ran the earliest recordings I had of

1748
02:10:54.239 --> 02:10:58.800
May Brussel and I'm going to add
to him this weekend. And also I

1749
02:10:58.880 --> 02:11:01.840
got the Mike Swanson conversation from yesterday, which by the way, covers for

1750
02:11:01.920 --> 02:11:07.199
about an hour plus hour and fifteen. I think the Trump trial and what

1751
02:11:07.399 --> 02:11:11.079
Trump is doing in Virginia, and
how he's looking a primary out a guy

1752
02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:16.000
who disagreed with him, I guess
in Virginia, and what's happening in local

1753
02:11:16.079 --> 02:11:22.039
politics where Mike is also Wall Street
Window retiring as a news website, so

1754
02:11:22.239 --> 02:11:24.399
that's going to be out of the
way. And if you go there now,

1755
02:11:24.920 --> 02:11:28.199
you'll see that there's just that note
up there. That's the only thing

1756
02:11:28.279 --> 02:11:31.640
featured. You can still sign up
with the newsletter, which I would suggest

1757
02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:37.520
you do. And I still highly
recommend Mike's books and will continue to support

1758
02:11:37.600 --> 02:11:41.079
those, although I know most of
you have already purchased it if you're gonna,

1759
02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:45.039
So that's that. And yeah,
at all times I could use a

1760
02:11:45.079 --> 02:11:48.520
little help over here. I got
a phone bill and something else coming up.

1761
02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:50.640
Then I gotta pay. And I
know it's tough. It's the beginning

1762
02:11:50.680 --> 02:11:54.960
of a month and everybody's suffering.
But we got to find ways out of

1763
02:11:54.039 --> 02:11:58.319
this. And I hope that I've
given you some sort of ideas tonight.

1764
02:11:58.760 --> 02:12:03.560
Maybe explore your local food systems,
see who's growing things, See if there

1765
02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:07.960
is a cooperative, and if there
isn't, perhaps you could start one with

1766
02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:11.479
just a handful of people and we
could begin to push back a little bit

1767
02:12:13.079 --> 02:12:16.800
against the food system, the ridiculousness. I mean, you're having stuff trucked

1768
02:12:16.840 --> 02:12:20.279
in from foreign nations that you're going
to eat. I mean, Jimmy's happy

1769
02:12:20.319 --> 02:12:24.119
with the processed food, but I'm
not. And I'm also not happy with

1770
02:12:24.199 --> 02:12:30.199
the cancer and the diabetes and the
ozempic and Jesus Christ. Anyway, no

1771
02:12:30.359 --> 02:12:31.439
matter who you are, where you
are, when you are, I want

1772
02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:35.000
you to remember that I'm merely o'celly. All of you are indeed the Effect,

1773
02:12:35.079 --> 02:12:39.479
and I'm working on that book too, so that'll be coming out soon.

1774
02:12:39.560 --> 02:12:43.239
We'll be talking about Lancer in the
upcoming weeks and whatever else you guys

1775
02:12:43.319 --> 02:12:46.520
decide to join in with on Friday
nights. And this was another one on

1776
02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:52.640
the open mic Ocelly Effect. See
you possibly on Sunday with a new show

1777
02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:58.239
or on Tuesday of this coming week, and hopefully Jefferson Morley will follow through

1778
02:12:58.319 --> 02:13:11.479
and show up coming week and others
that I'm trying to book. Good Time