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Then we continue on Fred Rogan,
Rodney Pete on seven LA Sports. Later

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this hour we'll open the phone lines
and Dodger fans, you'll have a chance

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to weigh in your thoughts on Mookie
moving a short. Gavin Lux got to

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hit. No choice, now,
no choice. He's in that lineup and

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he better hit because that's the only
reason he's there. Anyway, we'll get

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your take coming up in a bit. I want to remind you if you

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go. You can take us anywhere
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You can take us around the world. And you know why they're doing that,

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Rodney, because we're what Fred killing
it, killing it. That's exactly

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to step in. Let's go to
work. Oh yeah, he fired up

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baby this Monday. Let's go Freddie, all right, so let's go Lakers.

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Now. You know I've said this, and I don't know if you

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agree or not. Oh well,
the real Lakers please stand up. Yeah,

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you know, I pointed out from
the very beginning that I believe that

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they are built for the playoffs and
that's where they'll do their damage. Last

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night they faced Minnesota. Now,
Carl Anthony Town's out. Minnesota is still

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good, still a good team.
Go Bear was out too. But it

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doesn't matter, because you know,
at this stage, in this part of

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the season, doesn't matter. You
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and Minnesota is still a good team. Anthony Edward still there. I

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don't care. I don't want to
hear, oh, they didn't have this

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guy, they don't have. Nobody
cares anymore, Fred, Nobody cares who

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you have in the lineup. They
didn't have Lebron the other night against Milwaukee

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and they still won. Right,
So I don't want to hear, oh,

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he didn't have this guy, didn't
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He played with what you got and
they and they count. So don't

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give me that. I heard a
lot of people, Well, don't get

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too excited Laker fans because they didn't
have they didn't have Cat and they didn't

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have Gobert. Okay, win is
a win, right, Well, no,

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at this point, that's exactly right. A win is a win.

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And the game, as you started
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It was anybody's game, but that's
where the Lakers were able to assert

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their will and beat them. I
thought it was a good win. Anthony

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Davis has just really had a terrific
year, and last night again Rodney showed

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up big time and really was the
difference in that one. Why is he

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not in MVP conversations at all?
I mean even I probably won't win it,

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but I'm just saying, why is
he not even being kind of mentioned?

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Probably because of the ten seed?
Yeah, team's not winning, No,

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and Yokis is still putting up great
numbers. Yeah, but they still

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mention other people that even you know, in years past, they still mentioned

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other guys, Like even when Jokic
and Embiid and this guy and that guy,

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they would throw names out there.
He just don't hear him. Yeah.

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I feel like the only time someone
this low has ever gotten MVP was

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Russ and that's because he was the
first person to average a triple double since

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uh since way back when. Yeah, so it's not that Ad is not

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having a great year. He is. But you look at the Denver Nuggets

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way up top, where they are
towards the Western Surgeon at the moment.

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Jalen Brown or excuse me, Jason
Tatum with the Boston Celtics at the best

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record, best player on best team
usually gets votes. So that's probably why

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it's just where the Lakers are positioned
right now. Yeah, it always goes

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back to the team game when it's
convenient. It's an individual game when they

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want to criticize you in many senses. Yeah. Yeah, Nonetheless, a

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nice win, an important win for
them, and you know they kid should

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keep them up because they're gonna be
around in town for a while before they

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hit. They need to pile them
up the road. They need to pile

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that. They've lost their ability to
get a cushion, Fred, so they

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got to pile them up when they
can't. And they have some crazy stat

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Right, they play in the state
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Right, no reason to leave.
Yes, they go. They go

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to Milwaukee on March twenty sixth,
So they'll be here until they'll be in

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the state until then they go to
Sacramento, then they come back home for

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four more. Yeah, so this
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Back come up. I don't know
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the Warriors, So you're chasing seventy
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the Pacers, who are a good
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Bucks a good part of the schedule. But we'll take I said it won't

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be easy. But if they had
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to rain on what Fred just said. It's keeping it real now. Anyway,

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they're a home and that's good news. And there's more good news.

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Uh, Shams is reporting that gave
Vincent may be back than you think and

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that's great. Uh he's progressing the
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Uh. How that means he'll be
bad? Question? How effective will he

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be? Isn't that the question?
Yeah? Because he didn't played all season

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long, and it's not like he's
playing. You know, he was on

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the team last year where he's familiar
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they've had you know, maybe some
practice, but he's not played with this

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team, so how effective going into
the playoffs will he be? And and

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how do you use him? If
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like this, he's ramping up.
That means once he's in game shape and

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starts hitting a couple, he'll be
the freshest guy on the floor. He

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can play forty eight minutes a night. Yeah, yeah, fresh legs.

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But you always worry that, you
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care how good a shape you're in, are you rehabbed and for the last

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three four months, there's nothing like
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you worry about, Okay, we're
there's gonna be a soft tissue injury coming

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up soon because those starts and stops
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can't prepare for always come up.
So they gotta be just careful about how

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they ease him back into the lineup. D'Angelo Russell, if he continues to

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play the what you got to say
about him fair because you hated him.

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You want to pay his critic.
You said you couldn't believe why the Lakers

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brought him back. You said he
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said he's not giving this team anything. You said you wouldn't want him on

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your team if you were coaching little
Owen, I said none of that,

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but thank you. I said none
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you know big shot too. It's
so damn frustrating with him. Yes,

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I agree, because man, when
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he's hard to stop. And that's
the thing when you look at them,

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if he's playing the way he can
plays. You know, Lebron hobbles

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up and down and does give you
like twenty five on a bad ankle.

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If ruy Hachamora hits all of a
sudden, I'm telling you they're not an

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easy out. No, they're not, and they're gonna you know, they're

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playing doing this without Vanderbilt as well. Right, you gotta get him back

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defensively, But man, when d
low has got it going, because he

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can do a lot of things right, he can create his own shot,

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he can beat you from from three, he can go to the basket,

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he can facilitate. You know.
The thing he hurts you is he can

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obviously can't play any defense that that
kills you latent games. But but offensively,

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man, he is a legitimate go
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is, Yeah he is. So
that was a good win, you know,

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And aside from Kevin saying it all
go to hell, I wouldn't say

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that. Say you're saying Rodney put
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you put them word of my mouth. I just said it wasn't going to

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be an easy stretch. I heard. I heard what I heard. Yeah,

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that happens fairly often, Fred,
Yes, I heard what I heard.

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You hear what you hear, but
not what I say. That's okay,

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Well that's what I was saying when
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common. That's not true, but
all right. So anyway, Uh,

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it was indeed a good win for
the Lakers. Now, Dodger fans,

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we'll give you a chance. Let's
do it next. We'll give you a

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chance to weigh in. What do
you think of the move Mookie Bets goes

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to short? And what do you
think of Gavin Lucks? If I can

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add some context to that, Fred, h Yes, the Dodgers are playing

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right now, and there was a
high chopper hits the second base to Gavin

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Lucks. Why throw to first base? Stop it? Error? Stop it

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literally about forty five seconds to a
minute ago. Well, maybe that'll change

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the way you feel. Maybe it's
your call. A tix six ninety seven

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two five seventy. All right,
Kevin just added the context bottom of the

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first inning too, Mookie to short
Lucks the second Dodger fans, how do

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you feel? Oh? Yes,
we are back on a Monday, A

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beautiful monday. It is so stop
calling for rain, Kevin, not asking

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for the rain. Come on now, just keeping it in perspective. Roddy

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b Fred Rogan and a beautiful Monday. Mookie Betts your shortstop. Cavin Luck's

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your second baseman. How do you
feel about it? Well, I don't

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know how the Dodgers feel, since
it was five minutes ago he met it,

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throwing her from second base. You
know, it's one thing to have

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the yips. Steve Sachs, you
know, taught us about that. Yeah,

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but there's a point in time where
you know, unless you're the DH

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you cannot afford to make errors like
that. No, not on Eutine Place,

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No routine. You got to make
the routine plays. And that's the

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thing. When you get and your
confidence is shaken like this, everything becomes

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difficult every play is difficult. The
things that you normally would do in your

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sleep since you were probably eight years
old, become difficult. And it just

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feels like Galli Lux is going through
that right now. And I just I

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look love Dave Roberts, love what
the Dodgers do. I just don't know

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if this is the right situation.
And I will say he's been flirting with

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this all weekend. I saw the
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Saturday, and there are a couple
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the dirt, a little bit wide. Yeah, he's definitely not comfortable.

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And one of the throws on Saturday, I think it was you saw him

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kind of shake his head even though
Freddy got the ball. He's just you

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can tell that it's in his head. Yeah. Well, and the thing

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is this, I give the Dodgers
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that they could still send him down
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don't want to do that to him. They want they don't want to put

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him in a position where we're gonna
have to send you down. Yeah,

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he's been down. I mean that, what do you think that's gonna do

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to his confidence. Well, and
that's what Bassi said. But you can't

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have this. All right, let's
go to the phone lines if you'd like

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to weigh in real quick. The
move of Gavin Lutch the second and Mookie

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is short eight six six nine eighty
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your calling. Go ahead, you're
on the air. You know, I

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didn't know Dave say has said that, but I was seeking the same thing.

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Maybe drop him down back to triple
A and see if he could play

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second base well enough to bring him
back. But to be honest, I

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think it's time to let him go. And uh, it's just keep it

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simple and let's get that championship this
year, all right. Appreciate the call.

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And you say let him go,
Well, who's gonna want a guy

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that can't throw? Anyway? Where
are you gonna let him go to?

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You're gonna get for him? Yeah? Hey, you know the Dodgers are

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willing to trade him. Okay,
why because he can't throw? Yeah,

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So I don't think that that let
him go. I hear you, but

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I don't. I don't know if
that's the answer right now, Roger,

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I don't know let him go.
I don't know if that's the answer either,

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And I you know, I think, at least from the outside looking

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in, we are under the impression
that they were going to let him work

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through it, right coming back from
the injury. I mean, that's what

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we heard last week, right,
that they were going to let him work

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through it. You know, it's
going to take time, and he doesn't.

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You know, most people coming off
a major reconstruction like he did,

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it's going to take a little bit
at the time, and the Dodgers were

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willing to give him that time,
and then it felt like on a dime,

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it just turned and said, oh
no, we're not going to give

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you that time anymore. Yeah,
ar, here comes Mitch, Mitch,

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thanks for holding you're on the air, Chris Tsels, Fred Roannie giving clean

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anywhere. It came up to the
Senate field, So I love it.

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I want to see him Keith Locks, the guy Keathon got offense. Well,

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he did only the second only homegrown
town on his lineup that we have

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now, So I don't want to
see up the Bucks and they gave up

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a push to give over them Corey
Cody Trey. But I'm glad Mookie is

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able to switch to shorts up,
came up and center field, make a

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few mistakes. Yeah, no,
thanks, Mitch, I got it,

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thanks Mitch. Yeah, And that's
what that was the impression I got.

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Man, I don't know about you, but that's what I got, that

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they were going to let him work
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and and live with it for maybe
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everything is pressure rized. Well,
here's the thing, and we said it

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last week. What they came in
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is the real plan, you know. We it was kind of like to

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Korea with Yeah, that's the real
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right, we this is what we
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But you know, for them to
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two weeks into spring training, they
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for them to pull the trigger.
As patient as the Dodgers are, they

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think there's a real issue, Rodney, Absolutely they do, because yeah,

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it's not I mean, it looks
and I said this, it looks like

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it was a you know, a
knee jerk and an overnight decision. But

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in essence, they probably have been
studying this and going, I don't know,

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Fred, I don't know if this
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if we're going to make the switch, we gotta get Mookie ready to play

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shortstop, and so we better put
him in right now and get him as

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many looks as possible before the season
starts. So that's that's kind of where

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the thinking is. Man. So
uh, let's go uh Rudy in La,

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Rudy talk to us, guys,
you guys do it. I really

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don't like the fact that they're putting
Mookie at shortstop. He either play.

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He either pay second. You put
him on the outfield. You got Rojas,

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you got Kek. You had t
about the covered short stop, Galvin.

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LUs have to go back to the
liners and get better. And if

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he's not going to get better right
there, they decide to let him go.

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That's the way I feel. I
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He's early and the Seas hasn't even
starting yet, and they're really messing around

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with that. All right, Rudy
appreciate the call. Yeah, I mean

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he makes a valid point for it. The season hasn't really started yet.

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I know there's pressure on this team
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get off to a good start.
But I just my gut, it tells

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me it's going to affect more people
than just Gavin Lux. Well you said

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that from the beginning. Yeah,
And when you think about it, the

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first thing you wonder is how,
why? Why? Who's going to affect?

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But the point about Mookie, and
you can't emphasize it enough. If

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Ookie's not hitting, I will bet
you he's not going to be the shortstop.

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Pull that trigger quick? Don't you
think I do? I do?

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Because we know the team's gonna go
how Mookie goes. And they've got great

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players, and yes, Freddy and
and and Otani are behind them. You

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had Muncie, but let's face it, the guy leading off, Mookie Bets

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is the catalyst of this team.
You know what I'm saying. Uh,

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let's go circus circus and Santa Clara, youn a M five seventy l A

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sports? What do you think?
Oh, Santa Clarita? But hey,

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let's let's take what did I say? Here's a clemente? What did I

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say, said, Santa Clara?
That's way up north, Santa cl there

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it is. Maybe you should move
your Maybe you should all right, here's

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the thing. There's no time and
we're not obligated to Gavin Luks to give

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him all the time in the world
to fix his gips. Either cut the

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guy or set them to the minors
and be done with it. You can't

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tell Mookie is not going to come
out and say it. He doesn't look

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happy. In short, is gonna
affect Mookie's hitting. There's no way I'm

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gonna put up with this, get
rid of Gavin, or let him go

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figure it out and move on.
That's what I got to say about that.

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I appreciate the call. Yeah,
I think that's gonna be the sentiment

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for of most folks. It's like
and it's and it's a cruel business because

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you'd like to see, you know, Gavin Lux have a full spring training

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and and and try to work back
from the injury. But unfortunately it doesn't

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work that way. My thing is, why, what is the what is

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the hesitance on letting Rojas take it
over? Well, they think Lucks can

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hit better, That's what it is. They want to bat I'm onnest one

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is bad. But to me,
I mean, we we haven't seen a

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whole lot of Gavin Lux, but
it's it's not It's not like you're taking

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Max Munsey's bat out of the lineup, right, who's gonna give you thirty

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five home runs? Gavin Lux is
a good hitter, but is he Is

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he that that you got to have
him in? Well, he's, in

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their opinion, more than Rojas.
Pretty simple, if we can, if

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we can extend our offense a bit, let's do that. Here's what I'm

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surprised with. I'm surprised that the
callers, how every one of them had

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such a quick trigger, get rid
of them. I'm really surprised by that.

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Doctor Fans normally don't react that way. Give him a little time,

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let him work his way through it. He'll figure it out, you know,

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they'll do. What's I think it's
more Yeah, I mean, I

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think it's trigger, But I think
it's to my point, which one of

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the callers did say, is that
now you're affecting Mookie because this this move

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is not just about Gavin Lux.
It's not we're taking Gavin Lucks out of

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the lineup and putting Rojas a's short
stop, keeping Mooki at second base.

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It is now you're switching positions with
Mookie Betts as well. So this this

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affects more than just one person.
You think Trevor Bower's going to pitch in

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the bigs again? No, No, I think that David Vassay, who

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came on earlier with us, told
us that there was nobody looking at him.

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There was no scouts watching him pitch, and so I think if there

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was any hope that that somebody would
just take a flyer or maybe look at

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him and watch him pitch. But
nobody was out there watching him pitch,

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which goes to tell you nobody really
cares. You know, nobody cares.

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I want to take one more?
You want to take one more? Oh,

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and let me see if we have
one more? Kevin? Do we

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have on more? Okay? Oh
I just did the light it was blinking.

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I didn't know jump down my throat
like you jumped down fred in the

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world. Blanket means it's right.
I don't want to pop them on here,

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like, hey, we can't have
that. I don't want that.

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You know you can't have that.
We get Don Martin walking down the hall

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saying, what the hell are you
guys doing? Let me talk to these

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guys for two seconds on Yeah,
here's what you say, about in my

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mind, and and it has nothing
to do with baseball. No, it

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has everything to do with the way
he has conducted himself throughout his baseball career.

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Unfortunately, Yes it does. I
think that's what it is. And

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look, he was not found guilty
of anything here, No, not charged

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with a crime, but I think
because of the way he conducted himself.

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And if you're a fan and you
love him, that's great, but he

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was he was not an easy guy
to be around, and and he had

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an air about him. He wasn't
warm, fuzzy and engaging. Now,

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if he doesn't have a problem and
you can go out and win Game seven

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of the World Series, you go, that's my guy. Yeah, but

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there there there was something I believe
in many people's minds it is off putting

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about him sway conducted himself, and
he had an arrogance. There was a

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level of arrogance. And yes,
he wasn't charged with a crime, but

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in a in the public opinion,
it was it was the visual was not

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good. Right. So even not
admitting that you didn't you know, in

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your mind, did anything wrong because
you weren't charged, but just saying it's

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unfortunate that it came something something that
lets people say, you know, yeah,

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you know, I this is where
I live my wife life, and

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it doesn't agree with a lot of
people. I just want to play bass

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as something that would have let people
know that he was somewhat human in this

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situation or humble, humble in this
situation. Absolutely, yeah, and there

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and there's the dilemma because you know, we all present ourselves a certain way.

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Whatever he is or is and I
don't know, but there is an

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air about him, an arrogance about
him that does rub people the wrong way.

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And in life, you don't get
one of those. You don't get

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breaks from people. Right, That's
right, That's exactly it. You know,

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if you're that person, you better
not find yourself in a situation where

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you need people to rally behind you
because they're not going to. And we

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get you know, we had the
calls from Dodger fans he should pitch,

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right, We got all that,
but this is a little different. And

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you know, people like this in
life, you know, there's just something

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about them and you could call it
arrogance, you could call it an aloofness,

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but there's just something about him about
him. And also this is a

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it's a private business, right,
So this is owned by the Guggenheim guys,

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and they have no obligation to pay
him, to sign him, to

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allow him to play none. So
regardless, if he's not found guilty of

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a crime, you have that right
to refuse service. Right. It's your

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team, yes, by the way, as it is every owner's in Major

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League Baseball. So the question then
becomes because because of the way he has

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conducted himself over the years, not
in this particular situation, over the years,

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if you were to sign him and
bring him in first, you better

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believe that this guy is going to
win every game, go seven innings a

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game and quiet what people are going
to be saying. You get him to

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forget about what happened, they focus
back on baseball. Yeah, that's that's

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easier said than done, because by
virtue of things he has done in the

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past. I remember at one point
some years ago, Kevin, I don't

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know if you remember, there was
an article posted his rules of dating.

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Don't get involved with me. There's
nothing serious. I mean he put it

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out the way. Pardon you put
it out there publicly. Oh yeah,

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it was published and people looked at
them and when what is wrong with you?

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What the The arrogance from that article
was really off putting to a lot

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of people, especially women. If
I it was like, if I spend

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the night with you, then don't
expect anything else. It was because I

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just found it again that I remembered
it vaguely, but it said Number one,

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no feelings. As soon as I
sent you developing feelings, I'm cutting

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you off. Number two, no
public affection. Number three, You're not

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the only one. Okay. I
was twenty nineteen when he was still in

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Cleveland, right, and you know
that guy saying all right, I need

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a break now, Yeah, I
need a break. It's one thing to

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make a mistake. It's one thing
to have something happen and you apologize because,

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as I learned in life, people
are forgiving Once, as my boss

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told me at NBC over thirty three
years ago, if you are contrite,

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if you seem that you have been
humbled and acknowledge that, people will forgive

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you. But if prior to whatever
you do, you're saying don't develop feelings,

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you're not the only one. Yeah, it's the Iran. They remember

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that. It doesn't make it seem
like such a good guy. That made

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a mistake, and and and then
you lose either you lose the the it's

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not a crime argument. You lose
that argument because of your arrogance because people

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then don't care that it wasn't a
crime, because now they're judging you and

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what kind of person you are.
So I'm not going to give you a

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break. And that's why he can't
get a job. We'll take one before

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we go. All right, let's
go. Uh Jacob and Gilbert Arizona.

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Jacob, you're an M five seven
LA sports talk to me. Hey,

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guys, I appreciate I go to
the backfields every weekend on my days off.

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Luckily I live out here you now, and drive out to Glendale just

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seeing it firsthand. Like we're two
three two three years away from a shortstop

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in like grown up, home grown
again, and Mookey moving in short I

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kind of bought the whole second base. It would maybe take his like feet

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off and you know, getting a
little rest, but moving a short it's

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going to be way more physically demanding. You know, Mookie's an athlete.

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I totally believe you can handle it, but I'm just worried. Yeah,

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it's going to carry over to the
bat and then second base. Let's second.

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I think it's you know, it
could be better to send him to

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the miner for a little bit and
get his head right, and we got

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the other guys to take it over. So I mean, I'm okay with

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it, but at the same time, I'm a little worried about the bat.

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So I appreciate you guys, Thank
you, Jacob. Appreciate it.

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Yeah, I mean that's what I
said all along. The bat. You

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know, the bat is the is
the thing that I worry about with Mookie

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because shortstop is so demanding and it's
a position where you can't take you can't

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take any time off. All right, Rodney, did you see the story

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in the Kobe statue? I did. I did. Wow. Yeah,

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there's some mistakes on the Kobe statue. We'll talk about that. Oh,

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Freddy, freddy, freddy, Gosh, I feel bad. So you know,

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it just finished the third inning or
is the top of the third for

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the Dodgers, and Gavin Lux is
up. It's oh two count and he

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gets called on a pitchclock violation,
strike three. I'm like, I mean

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he can't catch a break. No, No, that's really sad. I

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mean, if that look so maybe
it was just a bad moment. He

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made a bad throw. Then he
got called on a pitch clock violation.

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But you know if that continues,
because now you got to think he's putting

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the real pressure on himself. Oh, he's got all kinds of pressure in

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his head. It is rattling around
there like nobody's business. He is overthinking

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everything, right, he's got a
hit, he didn't. He can't make

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a mistake in the field. He
did. Yeah, there are two things

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he's he can and can't do.
Got a hit, can't make a mistake.

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What do you do? Made a
mistaken didn't hit? Yeah, And

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it's one thing I don't care if
you're a little leaguer or your a professional

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athlete. When you when you don't
have confidence or you have those yips like

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that, it gets in your head
so much. And I remember hearing Derek

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Jeter say this on the documentary The
Captain that there were moments when he was

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in the minor leagues coming up when
he lost all of his confidence that he

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would be playing shortstop and in his
mind praying that the ball would not be

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hit to him. This is Derek
Jeter right, right. So confidence is

407
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.200
everything when it comes to playing sports, and he is. I mean,

408
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:02.359
he has just been dealt a hand
where it I'm sure it feels like eight

409
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:10.880
billion cameras are on him and the
lenses are like Griffith Park observatory cameras looking

410
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:15.079
at him and looking at every single
move that he makes. All right,

411
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.240
well, what did Dave say They
leave Thursday for Korea? Yeah, all

412
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.440
right, I'm saying Lunch is going
to be in the opening day lineup.

413
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.480
I hope. So I'm gonna say
he's going to be their opening day Yeah,

414
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.720
I hope. So. I think
at this point for them to move

415
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.640
him three days before they leave and
then not put him in the lineup,

416
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:48.240
that's uh, that'd be even adding
insult to even more jury that he has.

417
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.559
That'd be right. Have you see, I'm sure you have. Have

418
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.680
you seen the Kobe statue? Yes, yes, I have, beautiful I

419
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.920
have to. You know, they're
all great in their own way. He's

420
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.519
got a couple more coming up,
right, Yeah. This is a warm

421
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:07.400
up statue, and the other statues
will be difficult to top this one because

422
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.839
it is magnificent. If you've not
been down to the Crypt to see it,

423
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.079
get down there. I mean it
is unbelievable. It is a fitting

424
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:23.599
tribute to a great person. What's
some errors? What's some mistakes on the

425
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.400
statue? I didn't catch them.
I didn't look that closely at it.

426
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.039
I mean the duck. I was
not fact checking. You know, the

427
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:38.559
worst statue I've ever seen. And
one of you guys will remember Washington now,

428
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:45.599
the commanders, the former Redskins put
up a statue of a guy and

429
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.519
it was so awful they had to
take it down. Well was it was?

430
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.200
I can't remember. I don't remember, but you you know, you

431
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.839
can look it up. I can't
remember. But it was like a wire

432
00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:00.799
thing. It didn't even look a
statue. It was so bad. Was

433
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.279
it like somebody trying to be artsy
or was it just just a bad job

434
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.440
when they tried to do it on
the cheap? No, well, you

435
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:14.920
know what, let's air on the
side of somebody was trying to be artsy

436
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.839
because you could air on the side
of man. That was the cheapest thing

437
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.880
I've ever seen in my life.
Anyway, for Kobe. Here are the

438
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:30.240
errors, and this was captured by
a German basketball journalist, Andre Voit.

439
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:37.599
Let's see, there are several errors
etched in the Marble bass, including Jose

440
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.559
Calderon's and Von Wafer's names misspelled in
the replica box score from Brian's eighty one

441
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:48.599
point game between the Lakers and Toronto, and a formatting mistake on another side

442
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.079
of the base where Bryan's career accomplishments
are listed. A like a spokesperson said,

443
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.440
we've been aware of this for a
couple of weeks, and we're already

444
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.799
to work to get it corrected.
Weeks. Weren't they aware of it before

445
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:06.720
it went up? Like nobody looked
at this before they unveiled it. Well,

446
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.519
let's double check this. That's uh, where's our editor, the proof

447
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:15.359
reader, where's that person? I
mean, there's I've been I've seen it.

448
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.480
There's no way you'd picked that out
unless you absolutely are looking for it.

449
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:24.640
Yeah, I mean look, von
Wafer's name is misspelled, and the

450
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.400
replica box score Jose called the Rome's
name is miss It would be picked up

451
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.599
if if that was somebody that you
knew or some you know, somebody you

452
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.160
were really familiar with. Like if
if if there was a you know,

453
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:44.440
a statue of someone and you happened
to be they they caught you next to

454
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.200
that person, like a statue of
Fritz was going up, right, and

455
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.440
then the shot they took of you
and Fritz laughing on set or something like

456
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.799
that, they put it up and
they said, oh, the great Fritz

457
00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:02.200
Coleman, and next to him is
fred Rogen and they spelled it within rogg

458
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:08.440
a n right right. Anybody that
knows you would go, wait a minute,

459
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.839
not wrong. Now, people coming
from around the world they might say,

460
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.599
oh, fred Rogen, Yeah okay, But people that know you were

461
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:22.000
like, wait a minute, they
spelled the name wrong, right, So

462
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:27.200
maybe that was the case. Maybe
this German reporter knew Calderone and said that's

463
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.880
not I used Bill. Yeah.
But the other side of it is maybe

464
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.799
next time they should have a member
of von Wafer's family in Jose Calderon's family

465
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.440
inspected before it goes up. Yeah, maybe they should have run it pass

466
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.839
them, run it past them.
You guys, okay with this? And

467
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.240
what do you think it cost to
correct something like that? I mean,

468
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:50.559
the statue is nineteen feet tall.
Yeah, what do you think. It's

469
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.359
not like the guy's going out there
with a hammer and a chisel. Let

470
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:57.359
me just let me just fix this
one thing. This one thing, well,

471
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.519
good thing is not on is.
You know, like if Kobe had

472
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:07.279
a birthmark and they put it on
his forehead instead of his cheek, we

473
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.000
gotta go. We gotta go,
chainze. We got to cut off the

474
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.400
head and we got to put it
a new new face on it and really

475
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.559
do redo everything. You know,
it just chills a few different letters in

476
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.800
there. You know. Here's the
thing. Look, if you ding your

477
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.440
car right, you ding the bumper
a little bit, maybe they can you

478
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.880
know, bang it out. Yeah, but here's what they tell you.

479
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.320
Now, Well, I got to
take off the whole bumper and half the

480
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.719
side of the car exactly. Well, you know it's one piece. We

481
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.239
can't just fiddle around with this thing. We gotta take so I send it

482
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.519
out right, just ding my bumper. What's that? It's four thousand dollars

483
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.039
because I gotta take the bumper.
But when I take the bumper, you

484
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.280
understand, I gotta take the side
near the tire. Then I gotta pain

485
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.760
everything to make it look the same. Yeah, all right, So in

486
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:57.960
this situation, if they have to
fix this, I'm telling you, if

487
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.440
you go down to the crypt three
o'clock in the morning, you're probably not

488
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.679
going to see a guy with a
torch out there, just try to change

489
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.000
the name or something. They got
to probably take that down some way or

490
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.519
another, or rebuild it and figure
out a way to put over the top.

491
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:16.440
Yeah, I'm wondering that. That's
a good question. How are they

492
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.400
going to fix it? And that
how what effort did they put into fixing

493
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:30.440
it? Like maybe they just do
away with the names altogether. Why you're

494
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.519
laughing the whole thing. Yeah,
just take out the names. They don't

495
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.920
need Calderon's name on there, Wafer's
name I never heard. And I don't

496
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.079
know if you guys know, and
and maybe one of our listeners do you

497
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.400
can tweet us because they're not gonna
open the phone lines for this. What

498
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.960
does that thing cost to make a
statue like that? Yeah, that's a

499
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.440
good question. I don't know,
I don't know. You know, part

500
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.599
of it, I guess would depend
on the materials used, Like, you

501
00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.119
know, is it a marble statue, is it a bronze statue? Is

502
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.760
that you know, uh what what
kind of materials that they use? So,

503
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.079
but yeah, I would be interested
to see, Yeah, what the

504
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.840
cost of that is and are they
all the same, you know, because

505
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.559
if if they're not all the same, wouldn't some of them? Some people

506
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:21.400
be mad. I think Oscar de
la Hoya got screwed. He's had a

507
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.199
big one. Yeah, he's not
a big one. Chick Hern is bigger

508
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:27.320
than Oscar. Well, if you
stood chick her and up, it would

509
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.400
be pretty close, Bob Miller,
you stood them up, Yeah, they'd

510
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:35.280
be pretty close. Yeah. But
what if yeah, what if Oscar is

511
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:39.639
Uh, Oscar's made a copper and
uh, you got Magic's made out of

512
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.599
gold. You know, would Oscar
be mad? You know? The other

513
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.360
thing about it is though they've really
done a nice job down there. It

514
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:53.079
is pretty cool. Oh, those
statues add a lot to the arena.

515
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.719
Yeah, I agree. I agree. It is a it's a focal point,

516
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:01.199
and it's it's nostalgia, right,
it's it's it's really cool to go

517
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:06.920
down there and see that statue and
you walk around and you see Magic and

518
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.639
you see Kareem and and Kobe and
even De la Joya. But the chick

519
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:15.639
Hern one is very cool, Bob
Miller is very cool. Yeah, it

520
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.000
does add a lot to that.
But you know what, I think Shaq

521
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.840
is kind of lost in the back
a little bit, a little bit.

522
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:28.119
You know, the other ones are
so imposing in front and center, and

523
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.920
then Shaq's hanging off the uh yeah, the railing because of the way he's

524
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.480
designed. Because he's hanging from it's
a dunk as opposed to an actual ground

525
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:40.000
level stash old Reebok logo. Yeah, I get that, but I think

526
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.719
he's kind of Here's what I think. I think Oscar de la Hoya.

527
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:49.639
Really he looks like a like a
little Tonka truck compared to the other ones.

528
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.880
I mean, Wayne Gretzky's giant and
the Kobe is monstrous and magic.

529
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.880
What do you think Oscar thinks when
he walks by there, thinking, man,

530
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:05.840
what am I better? I'm not
here? Better, I'm not here,

531
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.039
but I'll uh, I'll throw food
dollars in. Can we redo mine?

532
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.480
Can I just get a little more
a little height, a little bit

533
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.480
more height? Yeah, that's all
I'm asking. I mean, I know

534
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:27.079
I wasn't a heavyweight, but my
god, I'm like invisible here. All

535
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.719
right, h next hour we are
going to have vic jump on, and

536
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.000
of course we'll have some spirituality need
it when we come back. Let's get

537
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.920
more into the Dodgers Rodney. Uh. The announcement of the starters for the

538
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.760
Korea Games. Right on, all
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