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Hello there, and welcome back to the Disconnected. I'm here with Paul rust
Rider, comedian, actor, extraordinary musician. Is probably one of the big
things that I should throw in there as well, because I love a lot
of your music. So Paul, thanks for thanks for coming on here today.
Oh thank you so much, Tryan for having me on your podcast.
Much appreciate it. Thank you. I mean, I've got so many things
I want to talk about tonight. But for the first thing, I currently
live in Kansas City, Missouri, and you grew up not too too far
away from here, from what I hear, not, yeah, exactly.
My senior high school senior road trip with me and three buddies, hitting the
road and traveling what is it, five and a half hours from Northwest Iowa,
Iowa to Kansas City and we stayed at a hotel. It got pretty
wild. We stayed at a hotel that we drove back the next day.
But you know you, I love Kansas City, my family who lives there,
Oh my hitting up the Double Trouble of worlds of fun and oceans of
fun. When I was a kid, you could applied me away from that
timber Wolf roller coaster. I loved it. The big city of Kansas City
compared to tinytown I guess, oh truly though that was true. I mean,
like to go to a Kansas City Royals game in that stadium and see
that dazzling blue shining above me, and I mean nothing is better than I'm
sure it's changed. I haven't been there in probably like twenty plus years,
but it had like nineteen eighty five World Series winners emblazoned on the side.
I was like, just to see that year be treated so respectfully, I
love it brought a tier to my eye. Well, I mean one of
the things I guess we could talk about with that, how how do you
make your way from tinytown, Iowa to where you're at? Now that's a
big change. Yeah, well it's for us, this kookie love of this
man. Oh, I wanted to save this before I forget. I wanted
to share this on the podcast and say it on record, this observation I
have. It's cool that you live in Kansas City because he said that in
the email and got me thinking, isn't because of the salt mines they hold
like the prints of movies not but like Stanley Kubert that Warner Brothers does own,
like the original cut of two thousand and one, and out of respect
they never show it, but I think they could if they. I mean,
it does exist in a Kansas City salt mine. It is the heart
and soul of physical media. This is accurate and I mean funny enough.
One of the big things my day job I work for immigration actually and Kansas
City is it's home of the Caves. They call it. It's the National
Record Center literally in the side of a mountain. Here underground, we have
like twenty six million different immigrant files that we keep here because it's the safest
place to keep them. It's it's wild how many things are archived underground in
Missouri. That rules that you have a part of that because I've seen there's
not much about it online, Like I don't know if it's like the CIA.
They don't want to show anything that people can look at and then sneak
in and get. But it's so funny because what I imagined it to be
and what it looked like was vastly different, Like I imagine it was going
to be like caves, like the holding a torch, and then when I
went down there, I was like, oh, it's like at the end
of cabin in the woods that like Cybertronic all white, clear glass. It's
cool. Yeh, it's wild. The Immigration center here that's underground. There
you'll go you're basically inside a building and then you come around a corner and
one of the walls is literally rock like it juts out into our hallway.
It's it's pretty crazy because they don't want to mess with it. It's like,
let's very cool. Well, congrats, I love that. Yeah,
our archiving is a big part of my life, through and through, it
seems the bravo. But yeah, escaping, escaping somewhere like Lamar's is not
is not easy. And I came from a small town kind of close to
where you're at now. I actually grew up in Barstow, California. Oh
Barstow. Of course it's an awful place. I hope nobody goes there ever.
But yeah, leaving a town like that is hard. How were you
able to break free? Was it difficult? Yeah? I must confess I
was thinking about it before. I've I never challenged myself to ever go somewhere
new where I did it? No somebody before. I grew up in Lamars
and then I went to the University of Iowa and I went with two buddies
who I'm still buddies with, but like guys I grew up with since kindergarten.
And I remember the first day I moved into my dorm room, I
thought they hadn't moved in yet, and I was like, my heart was
racing. I was like, who am I gonna be with now? Yeah?
I found other friends at college, but like it, that softened the
blow and then after the University of Iowa, was like, oh, I
wanted to go to Chicago because of Second City and the I was familiar going
visit my sister there who went to DePaul and I would go see fun comedy
shows. So I thought, Oh, that's where to go. And then
a lot of my friends I met at the University of Iowa, three friends,
they lived out in la and I'm like, you don't know anybody in
Chicago, Yount, you should come out to Los Angeles. So I moved
out there and I realized the and then I really leaned on them, you
know, stayed at their apartment until I found a place, and they helped
me, hooked me up with temp jobs and stuff. But I did have
one person angrily say to me, like fifteen years ago, like you've never
challenged yourself and never had to go alone somewhere. I was like, it's
true, it's true. Well, I mean this tells a different story,
like the power of networking. You got to make friends, You got to
make you know, find people that you can rely on and trust. That's
a big deal too, That's true. And you know, personally I hated
all of them. It disgusted me to even be around them, but it
was just the fact that they were present and helping me out. Then I
was like, okay, okay, I'll forgive that. I loathly just kiddy
to break into everything. Just be selfish, that's right. Friends first,
friends forever of course. Of course, Well, and sadly that's the dark
side of getting anywhere through some of these businesses. You have to just simply
know people sometimes. But I mean, making that first geographic step is kind
of the hardest part for a lot of people. Yeah, and then,
uh, when I I could imagine that being true and if I had not
had that, and then yeah, when I moved to Los Angeles, I
started doing open mics with my friends that I met at Iowa, Neil Campbell
and Michael Cassidy. Neil Campbell who's a very talented and writer performer in his
own right, and Michael Cassidy also talented. And then my band Don't Stop
Her Will Die. We're still all a creative crew together. Yeah, after
we did open mics, it was right when the UCB Theater had come to
Los Angeles, and uh, it was one of those I think if I
had moved to LA like a year later, I would have missed out on
sort of a opening gap where they were no false modesty. They were allowing
some less talented folks and through the door because they needed that calendar filled.
And I did everything I could to fill every square like a little rat.
And then uh yeah, and so I started performing there and then meeting friends
and doing stuff with them, and uh but yeah, it was the move.
Probably was. I remember, just to give an example of how it
was different. When I first moved to Los Angeles, I needed a key
maid when I got my new apartment, like a double me and my friend
Adam needed a key maid, and I went to get a double made,
and I was like, oh, well, where do you get one made?
I was like, of course, Walmart. So I googled ball B
and I was like, okay, fifteen miles away from here, seems unusual,
but sure. I got out of my car and I drove like an
hour and a half outside like the La County line to a Walmart, and
I'm like going up these weird escalators. It was like a retrofitted former mall,
and then it turned into a Walbart and I got up and I got
the key changed, made the double made, and then of course. Like
as I'm driving back from Walmart to my apartment, I passed through like hundreds
of key stores. It's like every quarter. So there was some shifts I
had to make. Did you do you live anywhere between? Did you bop
around? Were you in Barstow and then Kansas City or I well, kind
of, I actually grew up the first five or six years of my life
down. I was born in Pomona, so just outside of LA and then
lived in Upland for a little while, moved to Barstow, and then I
moved to Kansas City site unseen about eleven years ago. Now, oh cool,
that's awesome. Did do you still have a family around a different areas?
This is a funny story because Barstow, if you've driven through there probably
I'm sure you have at least once. Anybody that's ever driven through Barstow knows
it sucks. It looks like just the worst, Like how does anybody live
in this hell whole type of town? I mean that fully, like with
everything in me. We moved here and we're the only one that could leave,
Like talking about how hard it is to leave small towns, and somehow
we've gotten not exaggerating here, both of our families and like somewhere between ten
and fifteen friends to all move to Kansas City after us because we were the
anchor. They would come and stay with us, right six months, find
their own place. And now we've got our whole everybody here. That's great.
Well, it's a fantastic place to live. And I've not just saying
this, I've said it before, which is like the if I could live
in the rolling green hills of Iowa and the under the big blue, bright
blue skies, I would if I could also, you know, auditioned for
parts in Drake and Josh. How am I going to do that? Living
in a beautiful part of the country. At least there's no controversies rounding anybody
from Drake and Josh in the news in the last three months. Yeah.
Literally, My first speaking acting job I booked was awed Drake and Josh,
where I played a guy who at a science fair he has a watermelon lamp
with a working light bulb and they say to this guy, Hey, hey,
dude, you had a watermelon lamp last year. You know what I
you know what my character said, but this one is seedless. Hey,
all right, get that zag Card being hired by monsters might be able to
get health insurance this year. Nice yes, by the grace of a monster.
Oh gosh. And I mean around that time, I imagine it probably
wasn't quite as difficult to break through as it is now. It's wild how
much stuff has changed already in the last eighteen years. But the Internet becoming
so big and streaming of course without a doubt. I remember right before YouTube,
remember Google Video was trying to fight it out or throw their elbows trying
to You'd watch some stuff on it and it'd be like, this might be
the wave of the future. And then YouTube obviously, and then yeah,
it's interesting because or interesting to me. But when internet comedy like hit not
that the talents were comparable, but it reminded me of stories I would hear
about, like after Nirvana hit it big, anybody who had like a rag
band, major labels were like signing up like the Lonely Island hit it big,
like they carved, like they're the greats, they originated what this is.
And then TBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, is like, we're gonna
do this super deluxe dot com and it's like, y'all don't understand this is
gonna go to you. Everybody's going to YouTube. Yeah, and that lesson
still is it be learned three times o verright now people are like they're always
just gonna go to the main shoot or whatever. The you know, it's
had the least resistance too. Yes, yes, exactly. So yeah,
that like shook out. But it also was great in terms of there was
this thing a Channel one oh one that was going on in Los Angeles,
and Drew Carey was paying for the bandwidth so people pre YouTube could put up
their TV series. He was amazing. Yeah, and was he always been
just this amazing person. I know, I know Drew carries the weight of
all of our burdens. That's a nice way. It was an easy pun.
I love it too easy. You have you have some very specific projects
I would love to dive deep into if that's okay. This is I've got
a decent sized audience, but this is probably only gonna be for like six
of them. I personally grew up in Marching Band, so I adored Scott
and I am so jealous that you were on the Aquabat Super Show. What
the fuck? How was that? Oh? That's great? I thought you
were gonna mention too. I played a sky loving character in an episode of
Brooklyn nine nine, so I was going to get there after aquabats. But
aquabats are fucking legendary. Do insult you? Of course, just alphabetically,
aqua Bats comes before Brooklyn nine nights. Of course, obviously you always interview
in alphabetical order. No, yeah, that was. It was such a
thrill. It was like five days in the Santa Clarita area, which is
just like great Seami Valley, sort of beautiful, big mountains and uh uh
hanging and hanging out with like five sweetie pies. Uh, I'm just saying
that the amount of band members, it's not if there's six. I don't
mean to say there were five and you're like, no, who's he?
All of them were and uh it was really fun because it was a lot
of just thinking about it now. Uh. It was a lot of homemade
aesthetic stuff, which I really appreciated. And then obviously like their sense of
humor and spirit was great. And then but yeah, that a friend who
was friends with them. They asked her if they'd asked me, and she
asked me and I said yes, they were said Okay, So I came
and did it. It was fun nice. I grew up listening to them,
watching them. I growing up in the desert, Like nobody ever played
up there. So I drive down to Pomona, Upland and some of those
places, squatch some of these big shows. But man, Aquabat's always put
on a hell of a show. Yeah. So you got to see them
for four live. Yeah, and they're still like they're coming to Kansas City
in like four months. I'm thinking, like maybe I could take my kids
this time at rules. Oh my gosh, Hey, how old are your
kids? If you don't mind me asking, I have a nine year old
and about to be eight year old in August. Yes, hey that's awesome.
Well birthdays are exciting when you're eight. So hey, that's cool.
Well, I mean, good transition. Not to put you on the spot.
Both of my kids are special needs, two autistic kids, and one
of them has ADHD. And I have ADHD. And I read that you
struggled with OCD. Was that was that something that was true? Yeah?
In probably started emerging around third or fourth grade, kind of like and it's
like many things, it started off where organizing it felt so good and like,
uh. And it wasn't like anything about like germs or cleanliness or anything
like that my mom wishes, my parents wish it was about cleanliness and hygiene.
It was. It was like a yeah, organizing, prioritizing and making
lists and stuff. And at first it felt good and then after a while
it started just like commanding everything and it was no fun. After a while,
I was just like, oh, this is taking I thought this was
about efficiency and it's the opposite of efficiency. And then my parents, who
are very open and open minded and loving, they made sure I went and
got on some medication, which did help without a doubt that plus you know,
going and talking to a counselor shaking that all out and figuring out like
having the space with the meds to be able to go, Okay, I'm
gonna have a little clearance here to get through it. And it worked.
So when I say this, it's not like but it was this. It's
now been canceled. They took it off the market, this med And I've
encountered other people in my life who had took this in like high school and
stuff. Wow, and they're like, oh my god, did you just
sleep the whole time, I was like, yes, like something like it
like talks you up and then the other timbit that you'll share when somebody finds
out like, oh, you also took it, it's like, hey,
uh kind of a bummer. How when Columbine happened and they did autopsies of
the two Columbine killers, the only thing they had in their system was that
they're like, what were these boys on? Let's see what you know cooked
them up to do such a thing. It's like, oh, yikes,
okay, well hopefully we'll send a memo. But it did. I shouldn't
even bring that up because it worked for me. But I mean typical big
form of they cancel it because of the marketing. Probably I think so.
I think so. Probably it was not good. You're not good marketing.
Yikes. No, I primarily, like I've talked about this on here before,
somebody that struggles with ADHD and is still like trying to be hyper productive
with as much as I can be. It's important to show people you can
still do things when you've got stuff going on in your own life. And
uh, it's it's nice to see, especially from somebody from a small town
that was struggling with that that you can have resources, you can have a
supportive family, you can find your way to to make it big and run
your own Netflix show. I mean that's that's no, that yeah, that's
right on. Yeah, I appreciate not just you say that about me,
but all people. That's yeah, it's it's nice the aspect of you know,
also in one's work. Yeah, if that can be I don't want
to say it's like hardesting the power of lightning or something like that, but
like if it can be put to good uh and and not in a destructive
way like there's there's a power in it too. So yeah, well,
and not to mention as a writer, I'm sure that the just the I
don't know, the unique experience of that can lend itself to right realistic feeling
characters, which, unfortunately for a lot of us that are neurodivergent, we
struggle with some of those. But other people that are seemingly just perfect don't
ever have to deal with those. Hey, I saw a shirt once that
said po Buddy's nerfect. So I've heard that anybody's perfect. Yeah yeah,
yeah, well Tom Cruise would make a differ Brooklyn nine nine. You brought
up that episode. You brought up Andy's comedy Troop earlier. How was how
was working on that? Because man, that that show started to take off
around when you were on it. Yeah, it's funny with right when a
series gets distributed and people are watching it as it's coming out, and yeah,
it ruled. Hey, my friend Neil Campbell, he's a writer and
producer of the show. He hooked me up. But it was fun getting
to do sco stuff. I got to do a little rude boy dance.
I got to wear a little pork pie hat. Trying to remember. It
filmed on a at a real high school. And I always appreciate when when
you're an ere area with like adolescents or whatever, it's really great how little
they could care about what anybody's It really is like a nice refresher when you
come to where you're like, this is important work what they're doing, and
they're looking at you like you guys are a holes. You know, you're
just an inconvenience for them. Basically. Yeah, yeah, but Andy,
he rules man. He Andy Samberg is now a co creator on dig Man
show that Neil Campbell he's the other co creator and dig Man is this amazing
animated series that's about that's like a comic riff on Indiana Jones style adventure National
Treasurer style stories. And the highest compliment I can give it is that every
joke is different every episode. There's not like two puns like they'll have one,
you know, it's like it's very impressive. And the little mcguffins in
each episode they could be real deal of mcguffins and a real deal Anyanna Joseph.
They're not goofing around, They're like really cool. So do you even
just like love that sort of stuff. It's a fun show to watch.
Amazing amazing Netflix. I brought it up streaming and all that has been such
a huge, huge influence surrounding the industry of the last few years. But
two things primarily that are a big deal on your resume. I'd love to
talk about Paul Rubens a little bit. Of course, you get to write
a movie with him. How was that process? Because this is somebody that
a lot of us grew up with, grew up respecting, and then in
the twenty tens decades after you probably saw his face for the first time,
you get to suddenly go to work with this man like that that's got to
be a dream come true. Yeah, it was a dream coach true.
And you know you saying you get to see this guy after seeing him years.
That truly was like the first two like session writing sessions or meeting him.
It was really just me looking at him and his mouth movie and being
like that's pee wee who's talking, But that's also Paul like I had,
Like true, it took like eight hours with him before I could like lock
into like a reality of But no, he was definitely the Yeah, like
you said, I mean just meant so much to me growing up. He
was why I loved comedy. And when he passed away, he you could
tell anybody who was creative and cool. It was like David Bowie or Prince
or something. It was like when he passed away, the love came from
I feel like a special place from people who It's the really kind of cool
alchemy between this misfit is speaking for a misfit feeling I have, but the
work is trans is so great, it kind of transcends that. So like
Grandma's you don't like listen to David Bowie songs and like you know what,
like it's really cool what they managed to pull off. So I think losing
that sort of creative spirit in the world is great. There was nobody else
like him. And I'm trying to think of something because I have so many
memories that I could share with him, but I don't think I've ever shared
this. I'll just do it here for you. He told me he was
once at a party and he turned a corner and this would have been maybe
the mid to late eighties, and Bob Dylan was there. He was star
struck by Paul and was like, I am a really big fan of yours
and Paul was like, oh, thank you, thank you. Now think
about that. Bob Dylan doesn't give it up for anybody, and he ate
crossing roofs to tell people and shake their hands. Anybody who's still living,
I mean, anybody he would do that for is like long dead. But
he recognized this guy is the man. He's doing the thing that you know
Bob Dylan did, which is just like brought whatever his unique spirit to to
to the public. It's really cool what he pulled off. Paul is he's
one of those like I hate to use word character because this sounds to meaning,
but I mean, he is such like a bigger than this room type
of character no matter where he's at, and he's one of those that is
accepting of everybody. And so because of that, it feels like most people
that grew up around that time have at least one story where you're like,
fuck, yeah, I really love that and I felt like it was okay
and cool to do that, and that's a lot of people aren't like that.
There's so much like gate keeping bullshit around that, Like Jim Henson is
probably one of the only other ones that I can put up there similar like
he just wants everybody to be happy, like mister Rogers type of feeling exactly
exactly, I think, you know. To that point, there is like
a very pivotal moment in the first five to ten minutes of Peee's Big Adventure
that decides everything, which is u pee Wee. It's a small moment,
but pee Weee comes out and he starts up his sprinkler and he calls out
to the neighbor like hey, I'm gonna water my lawn now, and the
neighbor goes. He smiles, he loves it. He's like, okay,
pee Wee, and he closes the window and pee Wee turns up the sprinkler
and it sprays all over the guy's glass, and the movie makes it a
point. They take time and the editing to show the neighbor behind the glass
laughing. He loves it, And I can't think of any other comic character
who that's the choice is he does something and everybody loves it. It's usually
the like shaking the fists your fist at Ernest, what it Earnest get us
into. But uh, I love her, I don't get me wrong,
but uh but yeah, he he found a way to make that really funny,
and you gotta imagine it's some sort of utopia for him, that that
that was the idea that everybody could uh you know, do their own thing
and everybody would find it interesting rather than threatening or I man, I swear
I could just gush over Paul for like the next hour. But there's there's
something about getting to work with somebody like that that I'm insanely jealous, but
also just I can't imagine how like writers' rooms for the rest of your life
will be affected by what you were able to feel during that time. Yeah,
it's true. And getting to sit you know, side by side and
writing with him. It's a Before I met him, I tried writing a
script that was like, oh, I'm going to try to write a Peewee
style script because I was I mean, any big adventures like my favorite movie,
favorite comedy, and I was like oh, And I tried to write
it. I remember it was really long and boring and not funny. And
when I met Paul and we started working together, I was like, Oh,
this is great. I'm gonna find out, like what the secret sauce
is. I discovered it's a It helps when you're a genius, like like
like, oh, that's what it is. Paul's brilliant. You can't just
do uh. But he it was all about minimalism. And his whole thing
was I don't when I write something, I don't want somebody on page twenty
five ta have to think and go back to page ten and to know what
they're talking about. And so the descriptions were always really clean, and the
dialogue was like spare. And so I'll think about that a lot, not
if I'm in a writer's room or anything, but just reading a script or
watching something in a TV movie and I'm like, oh, this feels a
I don't know if the word is target or if that's the right when something's
slow or something like my response here, sorry, you are fine speaking of
brilliance and not to like worship you too too much for just a moment I
was. I was an early convert to love. For anybody who's never seen
it, three seasons on Netflix, one of in my opinion, one of
the great modern, like very indie feeling comedies that you don't get the option
to see through like modern sitcoms, because it's something that had to have a
chance taken on it. But one of the things I wanted to lead into
with this is it's clearly incredibly personal. It's you, your wife, There's
so much put into it. How just first of all, how do you
get something like that out of you and onto the screen for everybody when it
means visibly so much to you. I can't imagine behind the scenes, like
how much that actually takes out of you. Oh well, thank you Ran
for your kind words. First of all, Yeah, the well, yeah,
My was co created with my wife, Leslie Arfin, and myself and
Judd Apatow. The three of us wrote it together and it was based on
Leslie and I wrote a treatment for an idea about two people who are similar
to those characters who decide to move in together and it's too early, but
they decide to And we pitched that and Jud like the characters a lot and
like the relationship, and he said, oh, I've had this idea for
a long time of wanting to do a TV show that's about one relationship.
So he asked if we'd want to work on that, take these characters and
apply it to that. So then the three of us started writing that and
uh yeah, in terms of it being personal, you know, it is
uh well, uh you know for starters. The I loved working on the
show in the process. It was great period. And the sharing personal parts
of oneself in order, you know, knowing that that's like, uh in
sort of what Judd makes that that stuff when it when the choice is to
be personal, it's best to be as as as possible. It's funny.
They're really kind of exaggerated Leslie and I. When we first started writing it,
jud was like, well, you guys kind of are healthy, you
go to therapy, you talk about this stuff. It's like they can't be
there. You should have them way further before they're you know, have any
sort of insight with each other, and so so we uh we did like
figure out like, oh, what's kind of the most comically exaggerated versions of
each character. I and Leslie and I were both very conscious that when making
something about that that people would watch and go, oh, you could see
connections to real life. It's really easy to go or we never wanted to
go down the path of Gus. My character writes a song and everybody goes
like, Gus is a great guy and he wrote a great song and we
love him like that was an added hump to like writing it. I'm to
answer your question of like writing personally, that was the hump that was hard
for me to get over, which is if I just wrote a character who
was original and nothing about me, I would give them more credit and I
would let them do nicer things and kinder things, but like not wanting to
like be like this is about us and this is why we're really great like
so, and I think the choices that were made were all correct, But
watching it, I'm like, oh, yeah, this show goes harder on
ourselves and maybe we should maybe we could have been easy. Now I'm really
happy with how it turned out. But and just to what you were saying
about streaming and stuff, in the similar vein of Lonely Island kicked down the
door so others may pass through. Just something happened around twenty eleven or twelve
thirteen with Lena Dunham with girls like taking the in the best way possible.
She rules, and if I was her, I would be sitting back and
thinking all mfors got shows based on what I put out there. I mean,
Louis had a precedent to it, but I don't know, I really
feel like she laid out the blueprint of how somebody does their point of view
comic show in this day and age where it's not corny, and people did
different things with it stylistically and stuff. But it just so happened that streaming
Netflix that all was a cooking right when she was giving everybody the recipe.
So you know, again not trying no false modesty, but it's similar to
the UCB thing of like they need encounter filled. With Netflix, it was
like, oh my god, they just have deep archives that need to be
filled. And so that was But yeah, now what twenty twenty four streaming
services people are outside of Netflix, people are what would you say, scratching
their heads? Is that the best way to put it. People are scratching
their heads. It's a good way to put it. We'll go down that
path a little more in a minute. I'm sure good. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Your show was one of the first shows to unfortunately be like
it's tied to the whole Netflix does three seasons and it's over sort of thing.
And I think it made sense with Love. It felt like it felt
like a really nice bow on the end of it. But I mean not
that Read Hastings is one of my biggest viewers or anything. But how was
it working with Netflix? Did it feel like a decent arena for you?
Oh? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were down for whatever
we were stoked to do. And I'm sure that had so much to do
with Judd the working relationship, But even when he's not wasn't present, the
relationship was strong. I felt that it was like, oh, I'm around
people who love movies and TV shows, which was like not always apparent in
other production companies and studios. You'd be sitting there and be like, I
think you figured out a formula about wedding crashers and you're trying to repeat this,
is that what this meeting is about, Like where it's like meeting with
Netflix, there's people who were just like gaga about getting to get to do
this cool thing. The it's interesting with the Yeah, in terms of the
process and stuff, because with what you were saying about the three seasons,
I've heard Yeah that people I don't know if this is true, but it
does sound like some kind of wheel got wrapped around the axle where people who
were audiences don't want to get into a show unless they know there's a bunch
of them and it finishes ye. But streaming services don't want to green light
a show unless they know people are watching. And so I do think those
two kind of different things that they get into logger heads. It seems like
HBO has figured out still where it's like putting a new episode out every Sunday
right before people go back and see other human beings as a pretty smart way
like get people stoked for a thing. But I don't know if you're going
to bring this up. But it's also you know, we got to do
a lot of Blu Ray talk on love and so we're talking about like a
character goes like, why would you need these blue rays? Everything's on the
internet anyway, which we were like took some perverse delight, but like ye
calling it. But then the next season she finds like a Blockbuster card in
my wallet and she's like, oh, all the cool people I knew like
worked at Blockbuster, and it's true, like I remember think of that,
and but then Blockbuster was dead and doing it on a streaming sery it just
seemed like rubbing it in. I felt terrible. I always loved that.
And the there's I think there's one of the scenes in an early season you
have a whole bunch like a giant stack of DVDs or something. Yeah,
yes, this was a great one. Yes, the right the I'm getting
rid of them, I'm throwing them out. But I don't know if I
if you know this, but my first after like some logging transcribing jobs for
reality TV shows, I hit the jackpod of getting to log and transcribe raw
video footage for behind the scenes features on DVDs. Nice and I love that
job. It was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's some real
Fly on the Wall stuff. Speaking of Fly on the Wall and love,
just a cool little bit of Trivia, one of my friend's bands. His
song is actually in Love. There's a Yeah, there's a scene where you
walk into a coffee shop, a non district, nondescript coffee shop, and
it's his is the one playing in the shop. Yeah, what's the band?
What's a Crusoe c r U s o E. He's been on the
channel before too. Yeah. I was helping Funny Enough with marketing for his
band back then, and he was like, Hey, my band's gonna be
on this show Love that's coming out on Netflix next month. We gotta hype
it up and like all the marketing for it and everything nice. That's awesome.
Yeah. Our music music supervisor, Lyle Workman, he was the guy
who would find all these great songs and then also uh or and would write
the scores and stuff. And I found out later that he was the guitarist
on this Frank Black album I loved growing up, called Teenager of the Year.
And what happened was Frank Black just recorded all of these songs they were
ready to be released. He met Lyle and he was like, could you
play guitar just over this one song? Lyle? This isn't from Lyle.
This is like he had this own legendary status and then I met him.
It was like and then Lyle played like a little guitar one track and Frank
Black was like, could you play guitar on all of them? And he
does and it sounds amazing, and I was like, oh my god,
you're the dude. So that was cool. Yeah, you know, talking
about working with people that loves physical media and stuff, one of the big
ones that I left out, you were an interesting not not super long or
big character, but Inglorious Bastards quite obviously is a massive physical media advocate and
fan and has been for decades. Like he was making waves with that obviously
in the early nineties. How was that set, Like, I imagine you
weren't there for a super long time to shoot that. Yeah, you know
what. The way the schedule worked out was I would work a day and
I'd maybe get a few days off and work another day. So yeah,
I got to be around. It was great. I was like, I
mean, I still am movie mad, movie mad. I love movies,
and so I think it was twenty seven on set, and so being a
movie mad person in his late twenties getting to be on set with the movie
mad director who loved movies. It was a dream come true. It was
really awesome. And there's things it's funny in retrospect working on other stuff.
The comparison, I go, oh wow, that was special. It enhances
in its specialness. One thing that I noticed he did that like jud did
and it really helps a performance. So if you directors out there when you
hear this, I think Tarantino's talked about it before too. He just stands
by the camera like right off to the side and just like watches the actors
and I've I did my best acting with jud with him right out of my
purview, trying to act best for Daddy, like whatever kind of sad emptiness
actors feel where they have to have that void of like immediate like oh this
person is into this. I couldn't understood it, And like, hey,
he's got like some of the best acting, not just the ear he was
making movies, but all movies. People, some actors with the biggest resumes
on Earth, their best performances are in his movie. So but yeah,
oh man, he owns the New Beverly So I go there and I get
to see movies there, and he just purchased a vista in the neighborhood and
I went and saw the New Beverly. I just saw Muppets Take Manhattan and
that was really fun. Speaking of Jim Henson, I've got a Muppet tattooed
on my arm right, that's all. I've got. Animal. Yeah,
Animal is my daughter's favorite. Nice. Yeah, I got her through the
door an animal watching over me. I'll at the top there every time.
The rules, Animal Rules. I got to go to the New Beverly in
twenty twenty two. I think it was when I went back to La visit
Jeremy that set up this conversation as Oh, Jeremy, man, the New
Beverly was. It's like a mecca for people that love movies. It just
feels special. There's something about sitting in there that's like, oh, like
this is this is it? Like this is what we've been yearning for for
a long time. Oh yeah, from top to bottom, like from outside
that the Marquee letters are changed every day for the movie, which when I
was a kid, the specialness of driving by our theater downtown and seeing the
Marquee letters changed for the new movie was like tablets coming down with like the
tech Cobama. It was just like what with Vegas coming to theater. This
is so thrilling and uh uh and then you step through there and why my
god, it's the whitest array of candy you've ever seen. And the popcorn
tastes so good. You realize what what have I been putting in my mouth
at these AMC theaters? It's true. It's true. Also, as long
as I'm bitching about AMC, you know what I've always wanted when I'm getting
sticky uh drinks and beverages, I want to keep pressing the same digital screen
as every single humid in the theater. And oh I like it where I
go up to a coke machine and it has every variety of coke except coke.
And I'll not to mention you spent a lot for that ticket and for
each of those snacks. Yes, and they're they're basic snacks that you had
you pulled off seven to eleven style off I con session. Oh, I
could go odd and odd, but hey, we don't have to bring one's
glory up by putting down other things. I can just say the new Beverly
is great. I don't have to, so let's stay on new bed.
What's some of the best double features you've been able to catch? Oo right
on. I saw my first one I ever went to in two thousand and
four before Quentin I think owned. It was Fast Times at Ridgemond Eye and
Valley Girl, and that was cool I saw. I don't think this was
a double feature because it was a late night, midnight screening. Joe Dante
brought his the preview screening print of Gremlins that had some scenes that were cut
out after the previews were like, oh, you don't need this scene in
that scene, and you know, it's interesting when you go to uh or
I have a hang up, like when I'm at the New Beverly and I've
grown past this, but to see somebody who like outwardly loves movies publicly sometimes
it gets me nervous. It's kind of like quite easy. People don't like
this, like I'm conditioned to think, so even in a theater of movie
lovers, I'm still like, guys, let's not nerd out here too much.
Okay, there's there's so I remember at the very beginning of Gremlins,
this like white print on black disclaimer came up that was like you were watching
a preview, and you know it had been there since it was put on
there early nineteen eighty four where they had this previous reading, and my heart
sang, oh my god. I flipped out. I couldn't believe I was
getting to see this. And I remember a guy in front of me in
the but I'm keeping it cool, right, I'm like, I don't want
to be a nerd. I'm loving this. And then this guy right in
front of me, he does kind of this little like jump in his seat.
He's so happy about this this favor too. And I remember thinking,
like, cheap it, cool man, what did blow it? That's the
rule of AMCs. You're allowed to do it at the new BIV, I
don't. You're right, you're right at an AC. Gotta keep you cool
about a new BEV. Yeah, but saw shampoo there, I saw recently
saw Airplane top Secret double feature. That's a big, amazing and the best.
And this will be the last New Beverly memory I'll share with you.
I don't mean to bore you, but the I think that, thank you,
I had the best New Beverly experience I had. I think was the
last time I went. When I went to Airplane and Top Secret, which
was I got to sit next to a family that had brought like their twelve
and like fourteen year old sons, and I don't think they'd ever seen airplane,
and they were like losing their shit, laughing so hard. And it
was the laugh that I forgot about at home when you watch them and I've
seen them like two dozen times, but like the laugh of you laugh because
it's just an immediate laugh and then like five seconds past where you realize,
like they got me with that, say stupid joke, and you start laughing
at yourself. That was the cool experience the New Beverly, and I would
notice it with those kids. They would like laugh and then a new scene
would start, but they'd still be reflecting on that crazy joke about how the
boy ate his foot because he got stuck in the fridge, you know.
But yes, it was great. Are you a comedy fan of Airplane?
Top Secret? Make it good? I mean, I have a heart,
right of course. I got really lucky. I've been to the News BEV
once and it just so happened to be that I got to go for a
double feature and it was John Waters night. I got to see Polyester and
Serial mom and I because it was him in that place. I oh he
was there. No, he was not there, But it was just that
to watch people that will appreciate cinema that's as out there as John Waters in
a cinematic mecca like the New bev Is, it's a surreal experience to understand,
like, no, there's there's like one hundred and fifty people that will
leave here happy following a John Waters film, which is not always common.
The only John Waters movie where there's walk ins not walk outs, people fighting
for the samel rama from Paul to get autographed by the person they saw it
with, Yeah to to you know, dovetail to back to Paul Rubins.
He was friends with John Waters, so he would tell me fun John Waters
stories and oh, you know, John Waters came to visit a couple of
weekends ago and he would tell me, you know, about what they did
and what they talked about. But he told me that after the Peewee movie,
we wrote, uh, John Waters saw it and emailed Paul and he
you know, said he liked it and compliments from people he respect or compliments
from friends. In terms of Paul. In John Waters case, it means
a lot but the particular compliment he gave uh, I thought was really cool
and just says a lot about what they're The two of their friendship was about.
He said, that was a great movie. I you know, I
really liked it. I'm so happy there was none of that ironic, hipster
bullshit comedy. I was like, oh, cool, like and that's you
know, Paul and I thought we didn't use that term, but we talked
about how. I was like, it's okay if something gets corny, it's
funny to be corny, it's funny to be genuine. We don't have to
like iron irony it up. And the fact that John waters like Doug that
made me very happy. Genuine camp is a good thing. Yes, exactly.
Uh, we don't. We don't have a ton of time left.
And we barely talked about physical media. What's what's the story with you in
physical media? It seems like you're as deep into this as some of us.
Oh yes, okay, Well what did I first get bit by the
bug? My man Joe's movie House and Lamar's Iowa, it's funny. Couple
days ago, we were driving somewhere. She said there was a long line
outside a coffee place right next to this ice cream place. She like,
it's called Jenny's. I was like, wow, look at that long line
outside the coffee place, and she's like, yeah, why do they hate
Jenny's. I was like, I don't either or but yeah in Lamar's Iowa.
I remember when my we would rent a VCR player, and then we
had to make some exchange where now that we bought the VCR, we can
rent any movie, so we don't need HBO anymore. So when we got
the VCR, we lost HBO. I think the very first VHS tape I
remember watching was a Temple of Doom on like Christmas morning. My family had
rented it and we watched it. Blew my mind and it was cool too,
in the way like home video could work, which was I woke up
that morning to my sister talking about it with my dad because my sister had
seen it in theaters, but my dad started watching it the night before on
tape. And truly, I've thought, like my parents, they love thrillers
and suspense movies. They would rent them probably Wednesday Thursday night, right they
rent a video. A lot of my understanding of like movie storytelling is hearing
my mom resummarize a movie that my dad fell asleep to. It'll be like,
so she had to get the key to order the lock in order.
Oh why was that locked? Because he told her? But I'm like,
oh, okay, this story's shaped up to be quite the pop boiler here.
But then yeah, then I remember we would tape stuff off of HBO
free weekends, So I had Peewee's Big Adventure like on tape, but with
like call this number to get HBO free every year, every day, and
then that crew into just really I don't know how you feel if you're in
the same age range, but no, outside of this kind of like twenty
year age range, nobody, A lot of people didn't get that awesome like
from age birth. I don't know until when you're a teenager til college,
until you're eighteen, where you have so little power and control over your life
to be able to get this little slice of control. And it's entertainment and
particularly you know, filmmakers talk about our creators like, oh, I went
to the theater and I saw this movie a dozen times and it study I
do think, like wow, this peer group they had Batman nineteen eighty nine
on a tape and watched it one hundred times and true just comforts of the
VHS tapes. The Back to the Future Part two, Death becomes Her who
framed Roger Rabbit. These like Zamechas VHS movies, but oh, they meant
everything to me. They were so they were perfect, and like Tim Burton
movies, they're just like so perfect for a kid, They're like really fun.
And then in high school, having the freedom of going down and indie
cinema was we might not have had the art house theaters we wanted, but
you just had to wait a year and Reservoir Dogs would eventually get to your
video store and you get to watch it. And a guy got in trouble
for red Reservoir Dogs to us. He was like, you guys, blew
it. I told you when I gave it to you you couldn't let somebody.
We're like, we're sorry. And then yeah, once I got to
college in Iowa City, there was that's re entertainment and they it was I
mean, you know people go to like college where it's like the oh,
there's knowledge in those buildings and I can get them. That's my ticket.
Not being cheeky like having that video store where it had all these movies that
I've always wanted to see, but they just couldn't touch the chain rental places
where I lived. Ye Oh, I flipped out like I was ready,
Last House on the Left and Bad Ronald and stuff. It was just like
it was so great. So once I moved down to Los Angeles, that
stuff was dying. You could still go to video stores, but then that's
yeah, when the love of DVDs and Blu rays and beyond came in.
I actually grabbed some faves. If I can show you, Hell, yeah,
please, because I know it's an audio medium, but no, this
is video as well. Actually, good thing I wasn't wearing my shirt that
has turds all over it. Oh my god, I would have been so
embarrassed. I get it. This is one of my favorite Blu rays.
It's this Grazing Cane where it includes a special feature where this guy had heard
the movie got re edited after test screenings to be something different and he was
like, well, I'm gonna re edit it and put it online. And
Brian de Palmas saw it. He's like, hey, I like that.
Can we put it on the DVD. It's so cool? And then I
have a four year consideration DVD for the Kid and I, which is this
Wow Penelope Sphears movie from the early aughts where it was funded by Tom Arnold's
neighbor who is like a bagillionaire, and he wanted his neighbor to write his
son into like a true lifestyle movie because his son loved true lies. So
Tom Arnold made this kind of like meta movie where it's about him writing into
true lives movie for the Sun. But it ends with him with some brief
cameos from Arnold Swarzenegger and Jamie Thee Curtis where he walks into a room and
they're there. Do you know what The first thing he says to him or
he whispers to himself when he sees Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Thee Curtis from across
the room, he goes, he goes, what is real? That's how
weird this movie is. I'm very happy to have that. And then over
COVID when I was losing my mind, I started getting into these order brothers.
Uh what would you call them? Library style kind of yeah, like
uh bulet kind of yes, yeah, back when And it's so cute because
when they came out, they thought like professors were getting it or something.
These the backs have essays like I remember the back of the Risky Business one
is like the character from Risky Business is in the mold of the Halden COFFEELDS.
I'm like, what is this ship? This is crazy guy. I
love that it reads with an accent too. You push a button that it
does that. But I got this shining one because I heard that when this
is in the movie theater, the end credits had a blue color to the
font, and when it came out on this video, everybody was like,
the blue font gets too stream. You can't see it. So the next
one that came out in nineteen ninety or whatever, that video they changed it
to uh white or black. So the only way you could see the blue,
even DVD blue rays. The only way you could see it is it
was meant to be seen in theaters. Totally worth it. Blue colored font.
YEP, I'm gonna have to check the four K because I believe they
went back to the original negative for that. I wonder if it's back blue
again. Oh my god, I bet it's blue again. And now I'm
an idiot. And then the lastly I have, yeah, a Warner Brothers
thing of a Dressed to Kill and pre yeah that poster rules and then pre
DVDs. It's a release that puts in like a minute of unedited footage so
people could see it on video. Yeah, what about you? What?
What would you say was your first? Uh? I'm curious, like when
you walked into a video store, what comes in your mind as a rental
on the shelf? Well, funny enough, I've told the story in here
a few times, and I don't think I've ever heard somebody tell a similar
story. But I feel like Lamar's and growing up in Barstow kind of had
a similar experience. People couldn't. People have never really been able to fathom,
Like you grew up in California, you had access to everything, and
it's like Barstow is nothing, and when you think about it, they don't
have anything around them for like forty miles. So all we had was the
mainstream titles and the big one that was for me. When I was eight
years old, my mom and dad let me pick what I wanted to see
and my first big like this is my first big boy movie. I picked
Halloween. I was eight years old. We got to watching the movie.
My dad offered me five dollars to go run out and touch our backyard fence,
and I said, screw you, I'm going to bed. But yeah,
that was the first big thing, and I for years I was just
the same thing as you, like, recycling some of these VHS tapes that
otherwise I don't have access to anything else. If I don't watch this forty
three times over the next six months, I'm not watching anything. So of
course I'm gonna watch it forty three times. So the big thing is kind
of like you, we haven't even been able to talk about music yet.
But I got into the music scene. I was in marching band. I
was playing bass, playing guitar and hosting shows and doing like scheduling promoting for
some bands. I worked at a radio station for a couple of years,
and the bands started to become like close friends, and we'd start talking,
like what inspired some of your songs? And they start telling me like it's
these punk rock bands and like, you've never seen evil dad, let's talk
about that. And I was like nineteen years old and went, I've never
even heard of evil dead. Let's go find out what that is. And
so I from that kind of like you, I was about like entering college
age, and I'd have to go to a bigger city to find i don't
know, like Circuit City to find their DVD section. I'd be like one
evil dead sir, and I'd buy it, and I'd go home and be
liked, what Where's this been my entire life? And I fell in love
with that shit, and so I started eating up all this like B and
cult cinema that has been the past of my life ever since then, it
feels like, yeah, oh dude, totally. In high school there was
a video update in Sioux's City that somehow just got their hands on the most
far out stuff that was all like B movies things, exploitation films. But
what was so thrilling about it was they weren't formulaic, Like they didn't have
to mean I'm saying the obvious thing, but like that was like I had
no idea movies could be transgressive or flagger, and so was doubly mind blowing.
Like and to be able to like pick something, roll the dice and
have it pay off with your group of like it was the best You mentioned
marching band, What do you play? I grew up, I played clarinet,
taught myself bassed clarinet, and then because they're similar, I taught myself
how to play saxophone because I was dying to be in the jazz band,
so I borrowed my teachers Barry sax went home, and over a summer taught
myself how to play baritone saxophone. I rode with that for a good four
or five years, and then rise I was about to graduate, I picked
up a guitar, picked up a bass. I bought a drum set on
Craigslist for like three hundred dollars. I had a room full of instruments and
then sadly sold everything to be able to move to Kansas City. And it
was. It was a huge part of my life and it got me out
of California. It was one of the big things. Like that room made
me like fifteen hundred dollars so I could, yeah to pack the new wife
up and we moved to Kansas City together. Oh that's fantastic. What do
you do you cross any paths with musicians or the music world in Kansas City?
Is it or is it a thriving or not? I don't know.
It's it's okay. We're close to Lawrence, Kansas, which has had a
bunch of like emo bands sprung out of Lawrence. Oh yeah, he u's
out there. It was very similar to Iowa City, where you could tell
a band is going to the next city with college kids. Yeah, but
this, I interrupted, Sorry, what were you saying? No, you're
You're fine. I was just a random happenstance. One of the bands that
stayed with me that introduced me to Evil Dead in California. I come out
here years later, literally, like I don't know, seven or eight years
later, had no but I didn't know anybody here. I was looking for
a new job because my wife was pregnant, and I went to sell insurance
to a plumbing company and the guys like, I don't want your insurance,
but you're a good salesman. You want to come, like, see if
you want to work for us. So I rode with him for a day
and I was with him for like six hours, and we're going back to
the shop and he goes, just, I like you, what do you
do for fun? I'm like, well, I'm super into music. I
love music. He goes, oh, my son's in a band. What
kind of music. Do you like The band that I love that stayed with
me in California that I have tattooed on my leg. His son was the
guitarist, and I had no idea he was from here, and I just
ended up in his van sixteen hundred miles away from home. That rules.
Yeah, I love it. It was the weirdest show brand. It's it's
there. I don't think they're they're an active band anymore, but they're an
active punk band that was from like ten thousand two all the way up to
like twenty sixteen. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that. You know,
you've seen punk band evil Dead. Like the secret handshake that underground music
has with underground movies is great. That's awesome and and a lot of times,
yeah, as somebody who likes a band you like, well also like
a movie they think you'll like, and and so it goes a lot of
those they end up inspiring each other and the way that those those creatives thrive
from each other. There's so much that I've discovered because of those those webs.
You just follow a thread that somebody brings up, and suddenly a movie
you find is your next favorite movie. For years. Yeah. I mean
there's very few bands that kind of everybody can. You can play a song
and everybody's like, oh, I like this song, I like this band.
And truly I can only think of like maybe three, but one of
them is like a horror influenced funk band, The Misfits. Everybody loves the
Misfits like truly, I've never been anybody who's like they suck, Like yeah,
they make people really happy and it is some combination of that music and
what they're thinking about. How you'd be some Halloween version of Scrooge if you
didn't like that well, And to bring it full circle as we end this
thing, I feel like that community it really kind of grasps a lot of
the same things we were talking about with Paul Rubens and Henson, Like it's
one of the most inclusive we will care about each other communities ever, Like
the DIY punk scene is classic. You know, if you fall down and
the pit will help you back up. If you're needing a dollar to get
on, the bus will pay for it. Like it's one of those everybody
just loves you and will happily take you in no matter what. I know,
I was talking to somebody a couple of months ago at like a just
a backyard party. We're hanging out, we're talking, and I was like
talking about how the two of us it could like bring a tear to our
eye thinking about how the punk scene was like open to all. So the
sweetest thing on earth, which is you would see like a uh, like
a young gay or lesbian be friends with a goth and they're friends with hardcore
kids. It's just like because it really doesn't matter. It's just sort of
like we've got this corner. You know, we're on the outside, and
so yeah, whatever community that comes together around it, it's it's the best.
But similar with a you know, horror fans, it's so funny with
a bunch of little sweeties they are yep, it's like raising our kids.
We uh, it's it's a kind of a scary time for a lot of
people in some of these towns and stuff, and so we're raising our kids
with special needs and we have to have that talk. You know, you
come home and they've had like active shooter drills or something. We're like,
hey, if something ever happens, find like the meanest looking person with piercings
all over their face with the craziest hair. That person will help you.
Oh that's true. That's a look for the helpers. Look for the the
tattooed helpers. There's mister Rogers again. Love it. Yes, yes,
yes, Paul, this has been amazing. I feel like you're a new
friend. I could just talk to the next four Ryan, same Man,
same Sorry we can't talk further, but if you ever want to have me
come back again, I would love them. There's so much more to that
we can chat about. You know. The one thing I'd be remiss not
to share with physical media is, Dude, those commentaries. They are God's
gift. Like dogs or cats. I'm like, who's handed we shake to
get audio commentaries? They are so great and just giving shout outs to the
ones I love. There's a David Fincher Robert Town commentary for Chinatown that's amazing.
I think my first commentary I ever heard is one of my favorites.
It's Alexander Paints for Election. Wow. I really love that one. And
the one that recently I listened to and it blew my mind was Steven Soderberg
does a commentary with Mike Nichols for Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf yep, and
man, they should just do that with all commentaries. Just have somebody who's
a fan talking to the filmmaker, because the filmmaker when they're alone, they
they're too bashful maybe or something to share it. But if you have somebody
just like straight up kissing your ass and going, hey, genius, why
did you make that choice? Well? I did, it gets them to
open up. Same. I've noticed if a filmmaker does a European interview,
like not in America. In America, they'll be like cage and not answer
questions straight. But in Europe either because they want to seem smart or they're
just choosing their words carefully so they're not like misunderstood. The Coen Brothers won't
open up in a French interview. It's the best. So as we go,
what's the what's the deal with physical media for Netflix stuff? Are we
ever going to be able to get love? You think, dude? Maybe
it was because I knew we were going to be doing the podcast today.
I had a true just chill, a shutter go through my spine of like,
I don't think it'll ever go on physical media. So it's it's owned
by Netflix, so it's you know, it's there and hopefully it will always
be there. Knock on wood. But yeah, I actually was the like
this morning, I was like, should I contact jud to see if he
has the discs so I can walk. I mean, it's the same with
like some of my friends made some really brilliant like funnier die videos that just
kind of got lost to the sands of the internet when one company buys out
the other. So, man, I would love it because there if there
was mainly because our scripts were always overwritten with more scenes than we knew we
could fit in, and there was we had six days instead of five to
shoot stuff, so we would shoot stuff wow it hopes to see if it
could just if it worked, it would get in. And a lot of
times those were like really it was nice to have time to explore. But
when we went from like first from the you know, we'd usually lose like
ten minutes of scenes per episode that I would like. And with a show
that's kind of like one of those more slice of life stuff that unfortunately we'll
have to go sometimes in terms of runtime, but I'll have the things that
are most interesting in terms of character So that would be cool if there was
ever a physical release having like people get to see those scenes. But uh,
why can't they do deleted scenes on everything streaming? Hey if I could
click on Punky Brewster season two and get to see the deleted scenes from episode
four whenever I wanted, Oh, I Adrea, I can imagine clicking on
Love and being like season three episode three. Let's listen to Paul's commentary on
this and talk about the making of specific episode. Why not they should live
there. I was part of that cool, little, funky weird season four
of Arrested development where they the original plan was that they could be sequenced out
of order and you'd be able to kind of make sense of the story.
And then they realized due to network stuff, they weren't able to show them
out of order, so they had to show them. But that was like
a true Oh there's a new world of streaming and somebody's trying to figure out
how to make the most of it. Yeah, do they do that?
Now? Are their little? I mean this is a physical media shaw,
who cares what they do? I just didn't know if the stuff out of
secrets now and in very small ways, like there was a You ever watch
any Cynthia Rothrock movies like old martial arts movies. Oh I wish I did
so. Uh. There is a company out of the UK named Eureka that
put out a Blu ray release last year that because of playing stuff in Hong
Kong and then taking it to mainland China and then taking it to the US
and the UK, these movies have like four cuts because some of them they
want them longer, some of them they want them shorter so they can play
more movies of them want to edit for TV whatever. So there's like four
or five cuts of this movie. And this company in Eureka, they worked
on the disk in a way to make it. If you just put in
the disc and press play, it chooses a random ending for you to come
up. Like the old like how they would show Clue in the theater,
you don't know what ending you're going to get, and this this Blu Ray
disc does the same. You can go to the menu and choose which ones
you can see them all, but you can just I'm gonna have a good
night, put it in and play the loto and see which one I get.
That rules. I mean, I could list a hundred of the exclusive
charms that like physical media offers that no other thing does. But one that
I've noticed with the when you were saying alternate cuts, I'll watch horror movies
where they get European scenes and they add them end to the thing. So
I saw it with The Mutilator and From Beyond and The Prowler. All three
of these movies had this thing happen where during the most intense part of the
kill is also the point where they have to go to the other stuff that
got like cut out, yep and put in and it's okay, it just
it looks a little different the color or whatever. So in the same way
that people I know who saw like slasher movies the TV edited versions are like,
yeah, it's just as scary to use weird slow mo or weird dialogue
boom switching around to get around violence. It sounds like a weird like feeling.
Yeah, I love it. Now when I watch those alternate cuts,
when the color starts to change, I'm like, oh boy, we got
an uncut st here. What's gonna go down? It's thrilling, Like it's
just one of those small little perks that can only come from this world.
Well, I mean you said there's one hundred, so that that will have
to be the next conversation. We'll get you back and we'll list one hundred
reasons to love physical media. Perhaps that's great. Yes, we'll do like
ninety nine bottles of beer in the wall, but mos of why we love
this? Hell? Yeah, well, I know we both got to go
be Dad's. So thanks for hanging out tonight. This has been Thank you,
Ryan, remarkable. I'm thrilled to have you on here. Now when
this ends, will you still be here? So I can, you know,
officially say goodbye okay, because I don't want it to be like,
okay, great being on the show and then it goes black. I'm like
what, So, yes, thank you for having me on the show.
I hope people enjoyed it, and yeah, I'd love to come back again
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