WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:20.960 Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the 2 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:27.600 train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I 3 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:32.920 want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world, 4 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:38.320 a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace 5 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:45.640 and freedom. The train of life is a magaxine of good news and hope. 6 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:54.000 This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and like so 7 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:59.880 many truth seekers, of the only truth that can make us authentic free come 8 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:07.359 on, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all, 9 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:17.560 which will certainly take you to safe harbour. This is the train of 10 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:55.400 life. Well, very good morning, ladies and gentlemen, good morning Spain, 11 00:01:56.120 --> 00:02:01.040 good day. From this corner of our Iberian lot Julio Pérez speaks to 12 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:05.920 them. Let' s ride again, let' s go ahead, come 13 00:02:05.920 --> 00:03:50.560 with us. This is the train of life. Ha ha ha. Ladies 14 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.639 and gentlemen, well found, this morning already in summer, it seems to 15 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:58.439 me a lie, but it is true, uh, we are already in 16 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.639 the good weather. They already see me a little more, not unscathed, 17 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:05.439 because today in shearing today, but almost how good it is to go free 18 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:10.599 of the weight of so much, so much coat and so much. No 19 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:15.360 And now, then, also watching the vacation that many will already be thinking. 20 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:21.600 Well, listen, I' m a retired, jubilant who' s 21 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:27.959 here as a volunteer, a very willing volunteer, but it means most of 22 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:32.399 the people who have their working day and their work annually, because they' 23 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.759 re waiting, well, with almost anxiety on vacation days. We' re 24 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:41.399 already there a stone' s throw away. Julio is already a very vacation 25 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:46.720 month and August of course, because already the great evasion of all the world. 26 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:54.079 Well, the truth is, we' re glad it' s summer. 27 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:59.199 Welcome to this train of life party. It' s an open dialogue 28 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:04.959 party with very good friends Look, we have here in the studio this morning. 29 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:12.480 It is a pleasure to have with us Jauma full and you already know 30 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:19.319 or Mallena is the coordinator of the biblical groups of graduates of GBU also with 31 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:31.800 so many jobs of multidimensional, multilevel in terms of professionals, academics, entrepreneurs, 32 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:35.480 students. Of course, and well, we' re going to talk 33 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:41.879 and you know that Jauma, in addition to being a training lawyer, is 34 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:46.360 a chat room for many radio forums, including the Life Train, is a 35 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:53.720 lecturer and coordinator of GVG. Then he' s with us and we' 36 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:58.040 ll talk about the other look of the day and see that the current situation 37 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.199 here is a little rabid in our country. But, well, let' 38 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:04.360 s not be so rabid, so it' s a little more serene. 39 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:10.680 But let' s try to find the keys to what is happening and what 40 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:15.160 would need to happen to yaomallenas here on the train of life, the other 41 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:24.920 look of the present and soon we will meet live and live with Esther Martínez. 42 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:32.600 Vera Esther Martinez. Apart from being good, Esther is very versatile because 43 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:42.879 she is a writer, psychologist, university professor at the University of Tarragona and 44 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.040 then they have their consultation. She has been a shepherdess for many years with 45 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.959 her husband Eduardo Brasier and Miren. I' ll tell you something. Esther 46 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:56.560 Martínez teaches the pastors about the pastoral function, what pastoral counseling is like, 47 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:05.360 etcetera, etcetera. A lot of issues, but today we' re going 48 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:08.560 to talk to her. He calls me Julio. I' m writing a 49 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:14.160 very advanced book on stress. Killer stress, at worst, isn' t 50 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:18.439 called that the book, uh, but about stress. And then, well, 51 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.879 you want us to talk about how to fight stress. I had the 52 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.720 list of issues and if we are going to talk about how to fight stress, 53 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.199 how to anticipate these crises, especially very busy people. There are not 54 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:38.759 those who live in low mode It is said today that it is slow, 55 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.199 but this is difficult in this century. But, with Esther Martinez, the 56 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:48.839 psychologist, a great writer, let' s talk about how to combat the 57 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.319 stress that can lead us, in the worst case, to a state of 58 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:58.680 panic anxiety and even depression. If we don' t have a sense of 59 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:05.879 anticipation. Well, then there' s that doctor, the modest rock doctor, 60 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.000 he' s going to talk to us. I asked him to tell 61 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:15.319 us about rheumatism. This is human ran. Look I already have my years, 62 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.800 i e, although it doesn' t seem so, but Facebook' 63 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.959 s friends will say. They tell me the other day that I was in 64 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:26.800 Madrid with several groups and friends and so and said listen, but you are 65 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:33.600 that age and I say then, it will be my other self, but 66 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:41.480 yes, the case is that then osteoarthritis and the bones that gnash a little 67 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:48.200 and then you rheumatize in arthritis problems, rheumatoids or anything that is going to 68 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.919 point at us, to make some notes about it. And, above all, 69 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:56.519 fibromyalgia is a matter in a little that is becoming known if it is. 70 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:07.120 There are many cases of fibromyalgia already underway many people suffering from these diseases 71 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:11.039 unknown until now the fribomealgia and will give us some guidelines to take into account 72 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:18.159 to see if we can relieve some of these physical pains with the help of 73 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.519 our doctor of head, the lotus Roca, besides being active family doctor and 74 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.720 has my age taken care, we are of the same age, but still 75 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.759 in exercise and moreover, he is pastor and is a theologian, he is 76 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.919 a graduate in theology, he is a character. It' s you who 77 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.320 have that accent and that good verb and it' s going to help us 78 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:46.080 a lot. Do not miss arthrosis, rheumatism and fibromyalgia. Today with Dr 79 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:54.440 Roca. And finally, if they allow us, we will reproduce the Spanish 80 00:09:54.480 --> 00:10:00.480 television program on wave peace or a pau cataluña like the station, which has 81 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:05.279 already been almost a quarter of a century in the air and our particular history, 82 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:11.120 And then the train of life, according to many of the new generation 83 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:16.120 journalists, which has been the precursor of the format of the chat, of 84 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.879 the interview of Magaxine in the year ninety- two, there was practically no 85 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:26.320 such program we started and well, it seemed interesting and some of the testimonies 86 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.679 of people who knew Jesus through this medium of the train of life. Well, 87 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.279 listen to him. You can see it by Five ou Like directly, 88 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:41.240 but you will also hear it in audio this magnificent interview directed by this bal 89 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:46.519 Lozano, the director of Good News Television, together with Benny Moreno, because 90 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.080 we go there, let' s enjoy it now don' t miss it, 91 00:10:50.919 --> 00:11:07.440 don' t leave me alone come on. You can send your message 92 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:11.759 through our facebook, through our Facebook, entering between your doubles. Stop the 93 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.679 train of life. Point is the train of life. Point is remember that 94 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:22.840 in this way you collaborate with us. Tell us your impressions ask them and 95 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.480 participate actively. We want to meet you? We want to meet you. 96 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:33.240 Enter our website three of your double points, the train of life. Point 97 00:11:33.440 --> 00:12:03.000 is and follow us. Through Facebook. Through Facebook I feel pain like a 98 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:16.200 man does not and even though my eyes of eternity I use to determine ogan, 99 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:24.799 my hands can still touch and being the ground my feet in the walk 100 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:35.639 and even if I walk in a direction or I am merry, time passes. 101 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:46.360 I feel that I have contented myself with just waiting and life is a 102 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:56.960 net that has been given to us to enjoy than to live with more desire 103 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:07.679 to sing and alarm me without a measure with masses and their healed wounds, 104 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:18.759 scorches lives. I want to sit at the table and with my friends alone 105 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:30.080 sorrows, toast for life and never unreserved, whether it matters to me, 106 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:54.519 cienón un es or that from your lips I can brush and they are like 107 00:13:54.639 --> 00:14:07.799 home to my palar and although in my eyes they see the earthly disease happens 108 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:18.360 well. I feel like I' m content with just waiting for hor and 109 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:30.240 life is a gift that we' ve been given to enjoy I want to 110 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:37.279 live with more desire, sing and rejoice without measuring with my reasonableness, her 111 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:46.279 healed wounds. It' s short- lived. I want to sit at 112 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:54.559 the table and with my friends sun life sorrows, toast all my life and 113 00:14:54.679 --> 00:15:30.200 never ungracer be looked at by tabzas, grain zelons. B for your safety 114 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.200 u wear the belt. We' ve replaced this announcement of nine hundred and 115 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.000 seventy- three because not wearing the seatbelt looks like a thing of the past. 116 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.000 Let' s look at the effects of a collision at 50 kilometers per 117 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:46.519 hour, cin tilolisures, but it' s not. Today. One in 118 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:54.080 four road deaths was not wearing a seat belt Put on a belt General Traffic 119 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.440 Directorate, Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain. If you want to 120 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.000 visit our website, the Hueb www. Stop the train of life, the 121 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:37.360 train of life. Or, ladies and gentlemen, yes, with good company 122 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:42.519 here with full jamas, as I announced in our studio, in the master 123 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:47.960 car of the train of life. Good morning, yaoma, good morning, 124 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.639 Julio, this time in presence director here you and I in this house that 125 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.519 is your home to me too. Thank you. Yeah, listen, you 126 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.799 can talk about a thousand things. Now the Gestians are talking about everything and 127 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:06.920 no subject that is not our own. We have the subject to talk about 128 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:12.680 things, the earthly, the heavenly and the ultra- galactic as well, 129 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:18.119 but I mean that politics in all life to the social and political chronicle gives 130 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:23.599 of itself. But there' s all kinds of flanks there. Well, 131 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:27.119 now we' ve got the General Council' s sainet, the judiciary. 132 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:33.640 You' re a lawyer and you understand the subject of laws, but they 133 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:40.000 finally agreed after more than five years. You know this is like going out 134 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.640 shopping with your wife. And then you' re going to buy in the 135 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:47.880 first store and you say I can' t find anything here that works for 136 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.079 me and you go to the second, you go to the third, you 137 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.960 go to the fourth, you go to the fifth and you' ve been 138 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:53.440 buying all afternoon without buying anything. And then he says hey we go back 139 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.759 to the first store, because this is what happened here in this situation. 140 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:03.720 I do not know this agreement is the same one that was offered five and 141 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.200 a half years ago and that was rejected because it was inescapable. Totally what 142 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.079 at that time was inescapable now is the best of the solution, in a 143 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:18.400 solution that everyone agrees that we are all happy with it. It was necessary 144 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.119 to go through this, it was necessary to punish the Spaniards for five and 145 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.799 a half years, holding captive a power of the State such as the judiciary. 146 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:29.839 We' re talking about the third authority in the country. We' 147 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.279 re talking about a super important thing here and, instead, the games seem 148 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.359 to play for that sometimes we' re talking about another kind of games now. 149 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:45.000 It seems that due to the lack of capacity of the traditional political parties, 150 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.880 other parties are emerging on the right and left, which is not so 151 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:55.000 much because of their successes, but because of the failures of those who have 152 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.119 to be doing politics in this country. Yes now what, although the chemistry 153 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:03.599 of the People' s Party and the Socialist Party are not to stand each 154 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:11.400 other in any way. This is the question and I believe that in Europe 155 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:17.880 there are not two parties as allergic to each other, as in Spain, 156 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:25.160 at least as far as I read and I know and see that Italy has 157 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:30.920 a brutal political anarchy that, by the way, paradoxically Meloni, which has 158 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:37.920 been decorated a little further to the center right, more than abandoned a little 159 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:45.720 bit the relatively more radical ultra- right to be more moderate is ruling well, 160 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:51.119 that is to say, but what here there is no way to understand 161 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.359 us on issues. This is one of them. The General Council of the 162 00:19:53.480 --> 00:20:02.799 Judiciary, of course, invoked the issue of the independence of judges, which 163 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:10.720 the legislature did not condition the judiciary. And of course here there is a 164 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.880 conflict of powers and the executive, the legislature, the judiciary. We would 165 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.160 have to resurrect Montesquiu to give us master classes on the separation of powers. 166 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:26.079 There is, yes, but it is true that perhaps what was said and 167 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:32.000 then they were undone and in the end they have reached an agreement. I 168 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:36.160 think they' ve reached an even- handed agreement with me. It seems 169 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:40.440 to be minimal, but it was what was possible at the moment. But 170 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:44.799 they have also committed themselves to reforming the system and I believe that the key 171 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.519 is the reform of the system that is coming in the future, because this 172 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:55.480 cannot happen again in a country where institutions work. No one can be held 173 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:57.559 captive and clear in the system that you need two- thirds. That that 174 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:02.920 was done so that no one party could only name all the judges in favor. 175 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:10.359 Yours is that you' re going to need the opposition party also to 176 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:12.440 agree on who' s going to be the judge' s government. But 177 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:18.920 this has turned out now that what has ended up producing is the captivity of 178 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.000 the General Council of the Judiciary, for which it now has it and does 179 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:29.400 not want to lose its influence and wants to have a government, wants to 180 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:30.160 have a state power subject to a party. Because what has happened now is 181 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.759 that for five and a half years, the judiciary has been subject to a 182 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:40.359 party that did not want to change it that blatantly failed to comply with that 183 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.039 Constitution from which one then tucks himself. No, then this can' t 184 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:49.960 be One. He cannot have the Constitution as a way of holding a State 185 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.039 power captive. Therefore, what is being said at the moment is that perhaps 186 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:57.119 what should happen is that we should go to a mixed system, a system 187 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:03.440 in which the legislative branch elects a part of the General Council of the Judiciary 188 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.799 and its own career, as happens elsewhere, the judicial career itself chooses the 189 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:14.640 other half of the General Council of the Judiciary, so that it is much 190 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:21.400 more difficult to block than has happened so far. Well, if it was 191 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:27.079 a formula more equa is and more flexible. Another of the things that has 192 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:32.319 been agreed and that is very interesting, is what has happened with Mrs Delgado, 193 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:36.400 who was a Minister of Justice and is appointed Attorney General of the State. 194 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.200 This is, this is very partisan your life. It means this isn 195 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:45.759 ' t supposed to happen. It should not pass, that is, those 196 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:51.559 revolving doors that are established to control institutions, the institutions of the State. 197 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:56.200 It is necessary to have more respect for the institutions of the State, not 198 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:59.319 capitalize on them by a party or on the clear side of this, an 199 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:02.920 agreement has been reached that has to stop five years for that to happen, 200 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.519 two years for there to be a return to the judicial career. If you 201 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.920 are a Minister, you have a public position of first level to two years 202 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:18.480 to reintegrate into the judicial career and five to represent or preside over a body 203 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.519 of how, the General Social Sports Council, so the Attorney General' s 204 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:29.839 Office, the Supreme Court, all the sense of the world, then it 205 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.799 ' s okay. This is me I think it' s an interesting deal. 206 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:38.480 However, Spanish justice is very blocked. It means there is so much 207 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:45.279 saturation, the judges are overflowing in minor or intermediate matters. There' s 208 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.279 a barbarous judicial collapse. By doing justice late. It is a way of 209 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.759 not doing justice, because sometimes, when the sentence comes, the situation in 210 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:59.000 which the two sides are today is so different that even that is no longer 211 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.079 a solution to the situation in which they are actually in. Therefore, one 212 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:08.359 way to commit injustice is to extend a judicial sentence, two years, three 213 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.279 years, four years, and so there are sentences in Spain that are there 214 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:17.720 indefinitely stopped. Of course, of course, well, we will see what 215 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:25.839 happens to the current Attorney General, because this man, the subject of the 216 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:29.200 boyfriend, of the President of the Community of Madrid, ayu the boyfriend, 217 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:34.359 who is the boyfriend who here quite respects life, deprives political, to say, 218 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:38.519 of the issue of Begoña. Gomerus is that he has gotten into the 219 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:45.240 spectrum a little bit in the political skillet, but in general, the relationships 220 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:52.119 of sixteen is what he wants to be. He' s got a friend 221 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.119 or a friend or a partner. Now, as a rule, nothing is 222 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.920 said, no one gets in, but of course there he cheated the Attorney 223 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.440 General of the State. Then, of course, because there is a sting 224 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:10.160 because of course, the President of the Community of Madrid is a baor, 225 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:15.480 a one hates death to the preyet of the government and they bite to the 226 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.880 first and change. But it seems to me that there is one question that 227 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.039 is the right or the other, the ultra- right and another thing that 228 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.720 is populism, and in Madrid it is getting fucked. Absolutely is an absolutely 229 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:33.119 populistar government, it is not a government that the People' s Party should 230 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:34.359 consent to, that is, it is something they have to say. I 231 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:40.519 am willing to lose Madrid to order my own house, because there is a 232 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:45.000 disorder in the Popular House that in the end, somehow, somehow, the 233 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:51.559 medal to my law has precipitated the decision of the General Council of the Judiciary, 234 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.279 one thing and the other. Without the medal to my law we would 235 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.960 probably be without renewing the General Council judicial power, because I take a punch 236 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:04.319 at the table said here I command and this has gone completely out of hand. 237 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:11.240 Of course it represents this of popurism, it is simply the worst part 238 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:15.519 of politics, because it is done in the name of the people, but 239 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.720 without the people it is not, that is, it is fed to the 240 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.119 lowest passions that the people have. Yeah,' cause I wasn' t 241 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:27.599 coming. I count this speaking forgiveness in the expression to do the darn thing 242 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:32.400 to President Sánchez, that is, in the medal, whoever my law is 243 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:37.279 that it is a tearing I who know what this guy is. Not curiously, 244 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.519 I don' t say that, regardless of what he can do in 245 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:47.640 Argentina, which is a spermatic character in terms of staging, he has a 246 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:52.440 reputation for being a good economist and then that' s around he gets a 247 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.440 because there was also a factual power that they were stealing at times. But, 248 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.920 well, he' s such a peculiar character that he comes here to 249 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.240 insult. And that' s not right. That can' t be done. 250 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.079 We don' t want another kind of politics and we already have it 251 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:14.279 complicated enough in Spain, so that now we have to import populists, because 252 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.799 it is really another example of populism what Miley is speaking on behalf of the 253 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.079 people, acting on behalf of the people, doing the opposite of what the 254 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.440 people need and talking about populisms that happens with the bisens this practically unknown character. 255 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.079 Well, even though in the networks I was already making known. Of 256 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:38.400 course the European elections. We now move on to the European level to facilitate 257 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.720 the unification of voting across the country. There' s a chance that, 258 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:47.200 well, that' s where you remember Gil and Hill came out, and 259 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:52.400 that' s where Rumasa came out, too. The east memory, if 260 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.960 you remember me not. I don' t remember, no, Luis Mateo 261 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:59.079 is more, you see that he was wearing super bal te. You remember, 262 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.400 it' s just the thing, I mean, in the end we 263 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:08.960 ' ll end up having the politicians we deserve, but beware of what you 264 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:14.400 mean coming out with such expectant characters. They went out because they took advantage 265 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.200 of some social discontent for these populisms and were already pioneers. And, well, 266 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.880 he was good people who didn' t have a good ruiz Mateon either 267 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:29.079 he wasn' t very understanding, because he was a successful businessman, but 268 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:36.440 when he spoke he raised the bread and Gilly Hill was a total unpresentable man, 269 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:37.359 but they managed to put together a vote. Just look at what he 270 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:45.640 punched Boyer. That was the key, that is, the whole punch, 271 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.279 what the fuck. It' s just that all the people were wanting to 272 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.279 give it to the Minister of Economy, who was Boyer, because of the 273 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.039 tax hikes. That' s how he gave it to her. Ruiz killed 274 00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:00.039 then with that dagger, this went up well a lot, but it was 275 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.640 that he was a very brilliant minister. He comes along, I mean, 276 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.440 while he was there, he didn' t do it wrong at all. 277 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.079 But the question is this, that is to say, that they take from 278 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.960 us the lowest we have. That, those low instincts that your brother- 279 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.599 in- law has, is that you eat with him, because you can 280 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.079 ' t avoid it in any other way, because those brothers- in- 281 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:27.519 laws that are in the Whatsapp groups, and so, these are those who 282 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.240 go out with the albices with this kind of populism, with the Government of 283 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:33.039 the Autonomous Community of Madrid, there is use, etcetera. All this is 284 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.200 a style that does us wrong. But this is pointing to the fragility and 285 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:42.920 weakness of the traditional political parties that in the end no longer represent us and 286 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:48.279 when it does not represent good, and we are talking about right- wing 287 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.440 populism, but left populism can have been a fiasco. It has also been 288 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.680 pop populist and finally, a total fiasco. Well, what' s left 289 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:03.480 of the retina of the daily social image is the law of yes alone. 290 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.640 So, moreover, how dare they not say that the fiasco, which was 291 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:14.799 the mistake that they did not rectify, that still and then the amount is 292 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:19.440 to certain, apart from topics that were totally unviable, which means the social 293 00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:26.359 agenda of the left is interesting, but it is interesting when you work to 294 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.480 a certain extent, because then we have a mountain air that dares to suggest 295 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:36.319 that you should have sex with children. Okay. Of course it' s 296 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:37.920 just that we' re going to a limit where you say good. This 297 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.160 is no longer respectable. I mean, it' s a dor point. 298 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.319 If you don' t respect the children of this country, you don' 299 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.160 t have rights, that is because the children have rights, you don' 300 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.400 t have to say any barbarity. And she said sorry, sorry I was 301 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.559 wrong. He went to Latin America and said it again then we are in 302 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:03.400 front of some people who really are a harm to the country. The ultra 303 00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.880 right, the populism, the story that is the ultra, the left, 304 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.400 this is a damage to papolist. But we need moderate parties to stop behaving 305 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:17.039 like ultra parties, because in order not to lose votes on the right, 306 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:22.559 the PP moves to the box and the PP to not lose votes on the 307 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.839 left, the weight is to move direction and have smoked. No. No, 308 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.640 it is that we need focused parties, parties that are really the party 309 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.440 of the majority of the population, so that the population does not just follow 310 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:41.880 the voters, but also suggest ways. I told them once talking to Sanz 311 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:47.799 Santa Maria, I told her that you have an exemplary role in the country, 312 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.039 because people follow you in some way and when you insult yourself, you 313 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:57.839 offend, when you talk about that language, you are casting that kind of 314 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:05.680 anger on the population and you are dividing the country even more by four votes 315 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.839 that you are destroying the soul of a wood. It matters a pepper, 316 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:13.240 but they should care about it then there' s a lot of it, 317 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:20.400 too. The President is a major cynic in many respects. Others will have 318 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:25.920 their reasons and convictions to do everything wrong, but many things I and I 319 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.839 don' t know, but this is practiced a lot in politics. More 320 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:35.599 and more political cynicism, that is to say I admit in politics that we 321 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:40.799 have to have a certain political itch, but there will be politicians who still 322 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:46.319 admit the itch, which can be the frontier of many things, honesty, 323 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:55.759 transparency, dialectical, social discourse, ethics, for example, look. It 324 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.000 ' s Illa, good at some things. I don' t come with 325 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:06.359 him, of course. But he is an independent man, who also has 326 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:12.960 the political pattern, which is of political litter. But what difference does it 327 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.079 make to Salvadorilla? No, because now it can' t be that he 328 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.759 will be the next President of the Full, and so that' s for 329 00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.400 sure, because I' m sure it has to end this way, because 330 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.359 of the back of independence. But he is a man who is educated, 331 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.079 he is a man who is serene, who is temperate, who has a 332 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.960 verb, who is conciliatory, who has made it easier for others to govern 333 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.920 understanding, who has a culture of covenant. If Sanchez falls, by the 334 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.480 way, in Spain at some point and he and flees to Europe or wherever 335 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:52.519 he wants. The next candidate of the Socialist Party with face and eyes can 336 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.119 be her. Uh, but there' s a flaw in it. Yes, 337 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.000 it' s Catalan. Ah well, yes, if you have ever 338 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:04.799 chosen the next can in Spain, those guys were Andalusian Galician Aragonese, there 339 00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.320 was no problem. That is but when he has governed Catalan democratically. That 340 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:15.000 is why the Socialist Party of Catalonia has told us not to make any sanchez 341 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.280 moves that we will no longer sell ourselves to the highest bidder, as you 342 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.480 have done means no no here or it is and there is already an excision 343 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:27.079 between the PC and the weight. And that' s what that backstage means. 344 00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.199 We are talking as if no one heard us no, but qui but 345 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.280 the one who has as he does not have leadership of that calibre the Social 346 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:43.800 Party beyond Sanchez, this man remember what I tell you today in the two 347 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.960 thousand twenty- four, in June, the end of the two thousand twenty 348 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:53.239 - four, if he will no longer be the next candidate of the Socialist 349 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:57.119 Party as President, although probably the right, because he points out ways to 350 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:01.079 accede to the next government. But the thing is, it was like that. 351 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:06.880 Another thing about European policy is what will happen in France. It' 352 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.639 s very ralicidal. Yeah, let' s say we call elections, which 353 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.639 is what they' re telling you. Why do you call for election because 354 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.320 listening to the people is the basis of democracy. And when you look at 355 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.079 yourself and say I don' t know if I get the same numbers. 356 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.199 The people are no longer with me the same way. The citizens of this 357 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.679 country have lost confidence with me, especially when you lose a European election and 358 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.920 you are like the third party of the elections, so you have to stand 359 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:40.039 in front of the mirror and say follow me or I am ruling without anyone 360 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.679 behind me. I think you' ve done well. I think you' 361 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.559 ve done well, even if you risk, of course, even to give 362 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:52.159 way to the extreme right. The blame for the extreme right winning elections is 363 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.519 not macron' s fault, of course, the French are going to vote, 364 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.559 it' s not macron who are going to vote only French and those 365 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.719 who have to look in the mirror also before going to vote, to see 366 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:10.960 if we' re going to not fall into other worse questions, we' 367 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.159 re going to put the wolf, to rule the sheep because this is the 368 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:16.320 problem. We' re going to put the wolf, rule the sheep. 369 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:23.559 Then be careful Melenchón, who is the leader of the French left pen le 370 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:34.159 and good his say now the leader that Maria Lepena has raised this young man 371 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.000 also as leader of his dolphin, not as it is called now. But 372 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:45.719 it is at the extremes notice, because practically Melenchón coincides with the ultra right 373 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.280 in several, in various left culture, also on the left look. How 374 00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.280 they only have extremes among those who catch, practically the French today or choose 375 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:59.519 the extreme left. Choose the extreme right by the failure of the right- 376 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.039 wing tradition that disassembled and got inside Macron' s party and the moderate left 377 00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.679 that had simply always been a ruling party in France, the Socialist Party, 378 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:15.639 but completely disassembled in front of this situation. It will not be the failure 379 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:21.079 of the centrist parties, of the parties that have vision of state or vision 380 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:27.119 of government that, failing these ethically that by failing in political project, are 381 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.800 leaving all space to the left, are to the ultras, to the other 382 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:37.159 right and to the other left. We should not return to a much more 383 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:42.519 moderate government of long- term vision, a vision that is not about ruptures, 384 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.079 but about smooth turns, which is what one country cannot volantarize, cannot 385 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:52.679 be volantarizing from another place, because it is not going anywhere. On the 386 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.960 other hand, if we want to have a country project for the next 100 387 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.920 years. We have to choose people who don' t just look at what 388 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.599 the challenge is as a result of the next election. If you don' 389 00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:05.480 t think about France' s project, what is Spain' s project, 390 00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.639 what is Italy' s long- term project to solve a crisis of immigrants, 391 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.079 for example, of course, but there is a topic in France, 392 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.079 with the issue of semints. And now I will tell you that an interesting 393 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:22.639 analysis to take into account because Jack Chirak, who was President for many years 394 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.800 of the Republic and then my terra, but miterran already had an empowerment with 395 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.159 the right, not with the right ultralla, but already had a government of 396 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:36.960 cohabitation, being a socialist, had a room with the right and good sea 397 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:38.400 that well took them from France. It wasn' t weird. It wasn 398 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:44.559 ' t weird. They have more political culture, because because Parliament' s 399 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.840 elections are different from the presidential elections, then it changes and sometimes a left 400 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.440 - wing president had a right- wing government and vice versa. Now what 401 00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.239 is happening in France, as I am collecting news from several French journalists, 402 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:07.159 the whole Islamic movement is huge. In France, Spain nothing. Spain has 403 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:13.320 two children and beak. France has five million and more Algerians, Baroques, 404 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:20.440 Africans, Turks and a lot of that. I think it' s eight 405 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:27.239 million. They are probably trying to organize themselves because of course the ultra- 406 00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:35.000 right will repress, according to their understanding, their rights and also that I 407 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.119 have taken care that this must also be regularized by everyone, not only by 408 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.840 all immigrants, especially those who come who are given everything. I don' 409 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:49.280 t know, because there are people very close to who are officials and they 410 00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:53.719 say clearly have more pre- sales than those who come from outside and in 411 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:59.360 canteens, in grants, not everything. But it means that they want to 412 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:04.639 organize themselves to make a vote, they' re probably going to decant themselves 413 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:10.800 in favor of macrom It means that there can be a counterweight there, because 414 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.039 so many a considerable amount of whether to concentrate the vote, then the ultra 415 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.119 - right is not going to be so overwhelming anymore. The concentration of votes 416 00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:23.719 can be produced anyway. We have to take into account something like the evangelical 417 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:32.280 vote in Latin America has not worked because we evangelicals do not all vote for 418 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:36.960 the same party, because we have different criteria. The same is happening with 419 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.920 Muslims in Europe. We think that, because they' re Muslims, they 420 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:43.440 ' re all going to vote the same thing. And it' s not 421 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.320 true. You impose even a Muslim candidate on them and not all Muslims vote 422 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:52.119 for it, let alone because the religious vote is more divided than we think. 423 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.119 Not like this. In the United States, the white evangelical vote is 424 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:02.119 very concentrated on Trump supremacist. Eighty- one percent voted for Trump, but 425 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:07.199 not the Black evangelical vote, not the Latino vote, even being evangelical. 426 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:14.400 Soon we have to undo a little bit that idea that by having a religious 427 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.280 conviction, we are all going to vote for it, because this, in 428 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.360 reality, is not happening, but is quite different. Yes, yes, 429 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:27.519 it is true that each context has to be analyzed. By the way, 430 00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:32.559 well, today you have the first debate, Jobaden and Donald Trump, and, 431 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:38.039 well, now it seems that the differences in distances of intention of whether 432 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.000 you will be cutting, it is true that you are going to go from 433 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:43.960 is a man who is not, is not, is not working. But 434 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.559 I have asked myself one and I would have spoken to friends of everyone, 435 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.519 of different estates, of Americans, and I say and you have no other 436 00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.480 candidate, you have no other candity, one of the two parties is not 437 00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.039 able to raise another amount. I say yes, because it has an expectant 438 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:06.519 of this magnitude of good, a monkey is going to save America from that 439 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:15.320 of secularism and such good, but yes, that argument. But, but 440 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.000 it' s not that alone. For that we have to present a candidate 441 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.559 who is immoral, who is a fraudster, not because they say so, 442 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:31.440 not because a journalist who does investigative journalism or discovers it easily and who is 443 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:36.920 a man who has no idea of the politics of a country as important as 444 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:42.559 the United States. Look at the candidate who was a woman, by the 445 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:47.920 way, with a Christian background, moderate, but religiously Christian, but a 446 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.039 more Republican- centered woman. In the last candidate who beat him well, 447 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.360 Donald Trump beat him. Of course, I don' t talk about santis 448 00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:02.079 anymore, because I also didn' t think he was a better person than 449 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.519 tran yes, because, at least politically, he knows what' s going 450 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.480 on, but the but that would have been a good candidate, but the 451 00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.559 money, the powers in actresses, having the rulers that deserve the factual powers. 452 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.400 Or for this and it goes to iDen, because that is that it 453 00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.159 is a man also that is not and then erratic. I don' t 454 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.119 know, it' s a problem with all that. Country, a country 455 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.360 as important as the United States, in such fragile hands. But maybe this 456 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:36.039 is the problem. America was a country where there were strong convictions, People 457 00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.960 had lucky convictions, but we have replaced convictions with a kind of nationalism with 458 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:46.559 a number of components that are a real risk to democracy, because a man 459 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:53.280 who somehow tries to prevent the transfer of powers to another who has won the 460 00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:59.199 elections. No, not a strike. He gave me a coup d' 461 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:01.559 etat on all the rule that can be resubmitted. Then. This is a 462 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:05.440 risk to no memory, it' s a risk. I remember one of 463 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.400 the people who is Spanish, who is living there, something that was encouraging 464 00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:16.079 one of the mobs that were taking the Capitol and me. But this is 465 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:22.400 crazy and a more powerful but Donald trun grace from the outside encouraging him on 466 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.639 the street and well, and it happened there were dead and well, it 467 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:29.199 was a whole whole thing that had never happened in a country. How is 468 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.320 it, that it is the world seat of democracy, that has to defend 469 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:37.599 democracy in the world, because already taken by a kind of nationalism. They 470 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:44.159 put nationalism with some components of moral conservatism, which makes people see that what 471 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:49.400 is unacceptable because this one proposes it and this one promises you three or four 472 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.719 things on the agenda, because you give it all the confidence, then you 473 00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:59.000 can' t do it. It is true that we myself personally, of 474 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:06.559 course I say I am, I am not but abortist. I think abortion 475 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.480 is a matter that needs to be regulated to the fullest. I' m 476 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:19.360 not saying there are cases that have to be observed, but I' m 477 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:23.519 proven in every way. I also don' t think ideological colonization is right, 478 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:31.400 but increasingly savage of the WGBI movement in schools and in the social VI 479 00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:37.440 they have the centers of power of opinion and they manage them, that is 480 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:44.400 to say and obviously, being exclusive to others. And of course, but 481 00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.000 for those two things, well you' re ultra, right, no, 482 00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.239 I' m not ultra- right. I am a Christian, I believe 483 00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:55.159 in democracy, I do not believe in Francoism. I condemn him, and 484 00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.119 not even an invocation of that kind seems to me to be no more than 485 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:06.360 a second, not more dangerous. That' s why and other similar issues, 486 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:15.280 but I believe in a social agenda that favors the citizenry, the workers 487 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.400 ' movement, of course. But in the traps I don' t believe 488 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:24.880 either of the ultra- right right, or the ultra- left, obviously, 489 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.800 and they say good, but you' re ultra- hearing no, 490 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.679 no. I have the right to think what I want to say means I 491 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:35.840 believe in that proportion. No. But this is very very night this is 492 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.880 very anachronistic. This is going to be very arachronic. But I have convictions 493 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:44.840 and argument to explain why? But also, because I believe that my daughter 494 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:50.679 was born, that my son was born and that many friends were born who 495 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.840 had difficulties because there was no pro- abortion culture. Here there are extreme 496 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.960 cases of violations and, just as it seems that we extrapolate them to the 497 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:06.880 fact that almost everyone can suffer, there are few Christians in politics or Christians 498 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:12.639 who say good for these two issues with which I personally subscribe. That' 499 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.159 s why we have to go to extremes. That' s why we have 500 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.159 to go to line up with the extremes, with the extremes they have. 501 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:23.760 Moreover, the issue of migration must certainly be regulated, but it is inevitable. 502 00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:28.960 We need the migratory movement due to the ageing of the population. If 503 00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.159 we don' t stay the country is paralyzed and it' s going to 504 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.599 pay for the clues and paralyze generation. Yeah, but we have to do 505 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.239 a regularization. I believe one thing that says junes, and I think multi 506 00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:45.079 - reciprocals should be thrown out. It simply spreads, but in itself, 507 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:52.719 without regard to criminals. But in that kind of thing you have to be 508 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:58.199 more resolutive. But, of course, that anti- racial is not that 509 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.960 the majority of criminals are foreigners. Hey, hey, hey, hey, 510 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 511 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 512 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 513 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 514 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 515 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 516 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 517 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 518 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 519 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 520 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 521 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 522 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 523 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 524 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 525 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 526 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 527 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 528 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 529 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 530 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 531 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 532 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 533 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 534 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 535 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 536 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 537 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 538 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 539 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 540 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 541 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 542 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:00.960 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 543 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.199 hey, hey, hey, Let us rationalize a little bit more of 544 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.000 Christian clear discourse in politics. If we go to the extreme or go to 545 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.920 the extreme, then we are also losing the rumo. Even if you say 546 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.119 things that are going to feel bad to pseudo progressive. This one not when 547 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:19.559 I say imagine I say if I was in the Congress of Members I have 548 00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.880 an article, because I would say things that would sound, they would squeak 549 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.320 no, but they will surely go. This is from the albisins of the 550 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:32.000 evangelicals, but I would not think of the common good, well- being, 551 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:42.039 coexistence, democratic transparency. I would think of good practices, think of 552 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.440 universal Christian values, and think of universal human values that, after all, 553 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:50.480 are inspired by the Ten Commandments. Practically, that is, it also means 554 00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:59.360 that beware of the tendencies of Christians who naively go to extremes because they believe 555 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:06.440 they will save the world. The problem is perhaps that we have reduced the 556 00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:12.079 Kingdom agenda, which is a broad agenda, which is in the scriptures since 557 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.880 Genesis one. We must always remember that the scriptures do not begin in Genesis 558 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:20.280 three, but begin in Genesis one. With a good plan of God for 559 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.480 the human being, a plan of peace, that vestibule that God proposes to 560 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:28.320 the human being, which are the good and the right relations relationship with God, 561 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.559 relationship of the human being, with himself, relationship with others, with 562 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:36.840 the other system, relationship with the earth. And this is broken And then, 563 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.440 of course, the problem is that God wants to build a kingdom and 564 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:44.159 the kingdom is to return to the situation of the previous Shalom, to the 565 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.039 fall. And of course, that has a whole program, that has all 566 00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.679 values. And instead, we have taken all this and reduced it to anti 567 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:58.199 - abortion, anti- LGTB, anti- feminism, anti- I don 568 00:49:58.199 --> 00:49:59.360 ' t know what, and then we don' t have any proposals. 569 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.400 We' re the anti people and we' re not. We have the 570 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:09.440 Kingdom program equality, beauty, generosity. There we have the support of the 571 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:14.920 poor, by diminishing the Bible. There is much more talk about the poor, 572 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.480 about the foreigner, about the widow, about the orphan, about those 573 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:27.440 who are dispossessed by society. There is even the great figure within the scriptures, 574 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.960 which is the Jubilee. Jubilee is the most wonderful thing in Jubilee year. 575 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.840 The juine to proclaim exact, that is, when Jesus is in his 576 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.719 synagogue, the synagogue of Nazareth in chapter four of Luke Mal, I have 577 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.360 come to bring the lord' s favorable year this is the Year of the 578 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:50.480 Jubilee, for in the Jubilee all those who had lost their properties of righteousness 579 00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:54.079 and so, all had to return to their original owners. All those who 580 00:50:54.199 --> 00:51:00.480 had lost their freedom and become slaves were freed from a social tree, not 581 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.599 revolution. It' s because people are God' s and they' re 582 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.559 not mine. There was no culture in the world that would do that. 583 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:12.719 There is no such thing today as all people are God' s, all 584 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.079 properties are God' s, they are not mine. They are completely his 585 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:22.039 real and he retains the ability to redistribute them, the ability to restore freedom 586 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:27.719 to people, the freedom to return equality, because one cannot speak. Today 587 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:31.960 we talk about liberalism, but liberalism without equality is just letting the powerful continue 588 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:37.559 to abuse the weak. If there is no equality, there can be no 589 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:43.440 freedom. Freedom without equality is to consolidate that those who crush continue to represent. 590 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.320 Of course, there is a whole Kingdom agenda, there is one Kingdom 591 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:52.320 generation that will succeed, but why not some in us speak in the good, 592 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.239 there are not many. They don' t wire anything either. Well, 593 00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.199 I do know some of them, but it' s not very common 594 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.440 that there' s a crinic, a social, political chronicle. But when 595 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:07.199 I see that they are decorated to a certain part, well there' s 596 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:13.480 the ultra. When I hear the ultra- left, if you' re 597 00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:17.800 cousins, I mean, let' s talk about the center of the right 598 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.159 or the center of the left, which, after all, you are. 599 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.360 Although the Party socializes, for it has scurried a little further, the People 600 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:30.280 ' s Party says well more to the right and right and the Socialist Party 601 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:32.440 also to the outrage. Then there' s a complexity. One has to 602 00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:39.000 be done. I would say a political alchemy in all this. Political intelligence 603 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:45.679 is needed. But whether Christians or people against the Christian background in Protestant or 604 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:52.920 Catholic tents of deep Christian convictions for the good social coexistence of values and just 605 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:59.440 as it was after all the William Welvelford, who was a man look. 606 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.159 Moreover, what amazes me was some parenthesis of the man who, after thirty 607 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:08.239 years of fighting for the emancipation of the slaves, who got it almost about 608 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:14.760 to die, you really know what it was. He was a pietist. 609 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.559 It was curious that, being a politician of race, he was a pietist. 610 00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.239 Man was God- fearing. He practiced prayer, reading the Bible and 611 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:29.239 then political documentation bron a very high- ranking man, but he reads his 612 00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:34.199 story and was a very pious man William Wilverford can be one thing and the 613 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:40.199 other, of course think one thing the creator of him. The separation church 614 00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.880 State is not the French Revolution, but the first real example. I am 615 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.679 not just talking about theorizing on the subject, but about putting it in place 616 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:52.320 in a state. It was in one of the United States, where Roger 617 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:59.400 Williams went. Roger Williams, who was a pastor, the first Baptist pastor 618 00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:04.679 of the United States, William because he himself was the one who created the 619 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.519 first experiment of a United States State that today erred Island in the United States, 620 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:15.199 where he could become a citizen with all citizenship rights, with all political 621 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:21.239 rights, regardless of your religion. And there Muslims gathered together, Catholics gathered 622 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.639 together, non- believers of atheists gathered together, everyone gathered together in that 623 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:30.760 state because you could have full citizenship. It was the only state and that, 624 00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:36.119 in the end, passed the Constitution to the American Constitution. Jefferson' 625 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:39.280 s model did not succeed, and others won Roger Williams' model. Thus, 626 00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:44.599 in the 17th century, at the beginning of the 17th century, a 627 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:50.840 Protestant, a Protestant of deep spiritual convictions. It' s not because he 628 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.039 had no convictions, it' s because he had them while he was there. 629 00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:57.440 He did not allow the indigenous people of the United States to be removed 630 00:54:57.800 --> 00:54:59.920 from their land, but rather to be paid if you wanted to buy it. 631 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:06.199 He did not allow slavery to be established in that area of the United 632 00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:10.519 States. There was no slavery, because he was keeping a Kingdom agenda and 633 00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:15.360 we have to come back again, Christians, instead of thinking about the Gospel 634 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:20.440 agenda, on the agenda that little girl with which they can buy us for 635 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:24.840 four tough, immoral, indecent. They buy us for four tough guys and 636 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:30.239 we buy them the part with a fake speech, they don' t believe 637 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:31.719 they don' t even look. And it' s a wake- up 638 00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:34.760 call for navigators. So is this thing we' re talking about. But, 639 00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.039 for example, Oliver Crombel here, even if it is for the political 640 00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:43.519 motivation of the absolutist monarch, but it is the cremen of democracy in Europe. 641 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:49.360 Paradoxically, the regulation above the king does look at you and then the 642 00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:54.719 forerunners of democracy in Europe and, therefore, in the world. They only 643 00:55:54.840 --> 00:56:00.840 protested Protestants, leaders meaning Protestants. It means that Luther himself good though he 644 00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:05.400 did good, but in one with political nosotration, because he asked for that 645 00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.280 jonia and such and such good, for it was his mentor who made him 646 00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:15.119 acable. But for him to survive is not that there would be political notations, 647 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:21.440 for surely as there were with Constantine, religious syncretism. In one thing, 648 00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.400 he thought he had a far- reaching political vision, but in the 649 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:30.000 early days he was positive. Then it' s institutionalized and the gender thing. 650 00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:35.199 But like everything, like everything in life. But it means how important 651 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:40.719 it is to be clear and courageous. Imagine we' re in Parliament You 652 00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:45.480 ' re in Parliament talking the way you talk and the way we talk. 653 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.679 But, well, some would say good, because this one' s ultra. 654 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.239 They wouldn' t realize I wouldn' t, because it would be 655 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.679 a false accusation. But why, because we think of the concept of sacred 656 00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:00.079 life and think that the theme or the theme trars, which is intractable. 657 00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:07.119 In addition, there are already many, many sides of society that are saying, 658 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:12.800 even progressive, that it is a barbarity to do this promotion or the 659 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:15.760 dark believe here, even on terrace workshops, so that children have to know 660 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:21.840 if they are baby baby. That' s political manipulation. But wild doesn 661 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:27.480 ' t mean anywhere in the world. It does not mean that it is 662 00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:30.559 good for any to choose this, that there is some way out for this, 663 00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:36.320 but to promote it is for States. This is an aggression against common 664 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.559 sense in general. But when talking about this school, but there are many 665 00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:45.519 more things to talk about for good coexistence is the issues are very broad. 666 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:50.280 The Kingdom speaks of all subjects. The Kingdom doesn' t just talk about 667 00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:52.320 abortion, it doesn' t just talk about the LGBT issue. Those are 668 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:57.079 issues of importance, but they are not the whole. And that' s 669 00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:02.280 why I say that if we' re reductionists or we' re easy to 670 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.880 buy, because they give you the candy so that you settle for it and 671 00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:07.639 then they put in the whole package that you don' t have to accept 672 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.840 for the whole package. There are things that are unacceptable to Christians and we 673 00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:15.000 cannot go against the weak. We cannot go against it, but we have 674 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:21.079 the opposite We are in the current of generosity that has made Europe Europe. 675 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:25.039 How have we become Europe with what values? We have become the place in 676 00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.400 the world where everyone wants to come. We have done so with values that 677 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.840 are totally different. If we renounce our values, we renounce our soul to 678 00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:37.639 what has made us Europe, of course, we are increasingly a more petty 679 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:43.800 Europe, we are a Europe every time it is somehow no longer recognized, 680 00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.880 we look in the mirror and we do not recognize Europe Today, of course, 681 00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.320 we are giving way to things that in history have also given way to 682 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.079 this. We have given way to fascism, we have given way to Nazism 683 00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.320 in Europe, we have given way to communism. All this was not born 684 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:06.239 in Europe. When we forget who we are, what our true roots are, 685 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.239 then we are moving into a lot of ghosts, a lot of monsters 686 00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:15.480 that have been in movements, both fascism and the criminal communism of millions of 687 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:22.880 people, that is, good, Stalin and mous and toon millions of years 688 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:27.760 not only in their own country, even in Ukraine, that killed them with 689 00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:31.639 hunger, amylons and in no good field, others in Cuba, that are 690 00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:36.840 already desperate, that is going to burst somewhere or in any country, of 691 00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:43.159 this system or fascism, of course it is a maximum violence. It says 692 00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.760 good. Well, when there' s no law and if you hear it, 693 00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.480 no, no, no. Now democracy. I see her at risk. 694 00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.239 He saw her in danger all over the world. It is in a 695 00:59:53.480 --> 01:00:00.679 very fragile moment, because the values that gave rise to it are those that 696 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.079 are being forgotten. This is the problem, that is, it is the 697 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:08.760 same thing that, to give an example, it is difficult to have consolidated 698 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:12.960 democracies in Muslim countries, because it is difficult to have them. The musulmars 699 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.440 are as smart as the non- musulmars. The problem is that there is 700 01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:22.559 no ideological basis, there is no basis for democracy. And so it is 701 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.000 clear to us, the Europeans, that we have generated democracy from Greece to 702 01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.119 here, because we have had an ideological basis that has given it a basis. 703 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:34.360 Now we' re losing him. As we are losing, it is 704 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:39.559 happening to us that our democracies are weakening and strange phenomena, populism, ultra, 705 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:45.599 etcetera, which are going to say, the monsters we are creating, 706 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:51.679 because our constitutive account. That which gave rise to us, those Kingdom policies 707 01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:55.280 which gave rise to this Europe are being forgotten. When you take your livelihood 708 01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:00.679 away, you take the foundation away, you fall into disrepute is Christianization of 709 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:07.679 Europe. Evidently, even billing us. And if Europe has what the political 710 01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:14.559 capital it has now is because residually there are still the effects of Christianity, 711 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:20.679 of the affections of the reforms. Reform, too, is not an event, 712 01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:25.360 but reform is a movement. Today we are in the first five hundred 713 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.400 years of reform, because it did not stop at that moment, but it 714 01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:32.000 has come all the way here. That is why, in the most democratic 715 01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:36.719 countries of the world, those with the least corruption, the most equality, 716 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:40.800 men, women and more democratic health are in Europe. Well even against the 717 01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:45.760 elvira rock varea, which is a detractor of Protestantism and which some and listened 718 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:54.599 the other day to the director of reason, the marguena, speaking scornfully of 719 01:01:54.800 --> 01:02:04.199 Protestantism. We must see the results so they will prove fiasco and so equal 720 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.960 and good and clear, it is obviously the fact that Spain has many complexities. 721 01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:15.800 The black soul of Spain is linked to many things, to the Borbónica 722 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:22.159 brand and to the Habsburgs and other things and, moreover, to the black 723 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:27.480 soul of the Catholic Church, an act more, although the Catholic Church now, 724 01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.519 evidently, is not the same. No, but there is one aspect 725 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:37.960 that is that in Spain has always been persecuted to read the scriptures. It 726 01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.719 has never been allowed, just as in other places they gave the writing to 727 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.679 the people, translated it and handed it over to them and from the writing 728 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:50.320 of the people discovered a lot of things of those kingdom principles that have been 729 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.360 affecting those countries. We haven' t had this influence because in Spain they 730 01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:57.320 told you you can' t translate the Bible. You have to read it 731 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.400 in Latin why, because with that people didn' t have to agree to 732 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.800 that even when they translated it. The question is, we' re going 733 01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:06.920 to translate it for you, but you have to read it under the Church 734 01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:08.400 ' s magisterium. You have to understand it under the magisterium yourself. You 735 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:12.199 can' t read it for yourself just because it' s gonna hurt you. 736 01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.159 It' s not true. It' s giving the Bible to the 737 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:16.159 people. Of course that' s what the reform did. That is our 738 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:24.639 soul and Martin Luther writes in the German coin, in the most basic German 739 01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:32.800 language, writes the first translation of the new Testament and then the first impression 740 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:39.280 of the Wtenberg. It is the Bible that you mean, and the Bible 741 01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:43.280 as expensive as you say, but give me an account of Christian Jewish culture. 742 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.760 It has to be erased from the social imaginary. This is the attempt 743 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:52.000 of all the factual powers Europe, especially because it is repressive, blaming, 744 01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:57.360 anachronistic annoying. But how have we come this far psalm, how have we 745 01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.840 come to the psalm? If yes, the psalm of pog let us cast 746 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.840 off from us, his deliverances, no, but says the psalm says, 747 01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:09.360 but he who sits on the throne will laugh at them, because the last 748 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.559 word does not have it. The Antichrist, nor the powers of Antichrist, 749 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.599 nor anything. The last word in history is the sovereign king of the kings 750 01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:21.400 of the earth, who will triumph good over evil. It will definitely establish 751 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:27.199 an eternal and perfect kingdom, a new earth heavens, a new world, 752 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.599 where perfect righteousness will be installed. And that says to see this is the 753 01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:34.239 great utopia. That' s God, that' s God, the god 754 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:38.639 we' re after him, but we' re not going to bring her 755 01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:39.840 in We' re going to bring her to God. Moreover, that is, 756 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:44.280 we have to live today in the light of the future. But God 757 01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:46.639 brings it, that is, no one can avoid it. I don' 758 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:50.360 t think I know. If some say that if we are provocateurs, there 759 01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:55.239 will be those who agree and agree and say, but had to be more 760 01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.280 settled others would say today, but how can they talk about it at this 761 01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:03.480 point, in this more modern and progressive world, and these are some. 762 01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:09.920 I don' t know what to call. They can call us in every 763 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:15.760 way, but we could talk about many more things, as well as things 764 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:23.880 in sight from Bible groups, graduates, college Bible groups, since and I 765 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:29.880 loved the interview talking about this. But the other thing about the summons that 766 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:33.000 is going to be in according to the USAN, I loved very much the 767 01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:40.679 didactic form that you presented what is that international forum so that what importance it 768 01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:45.039 is that we begin, lastly, that importance is fifty years after LAUSA, 769 01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:49.280 years since a thousand nine hundred seventy- four Lausanne, where, for the 770 01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:56.760 first time you begin to see which, what it takes to close the gap 771 01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.159 that prevents all people in the world from having a chance to hear about God. 772 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:06.119 This is the most basic universal right, for everyone to have a chance 773 01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:12.920 to hear about a God who saves. And of course this is what the 774 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:17.440 Osana movement seeks, bringing together five zero people, chosen one by one, 775 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:25.679 chosen by name, with age balance, with occupation balance, with gender balance, 776 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.639 so that the whole church itself is represented and we can build together what 777 01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:36.000 is the desire of God, which the name of God has been known in 778 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:45.440 all cultures. Proclaim the Year of the Jubilee exactly the Declaration of Nazareth of 779 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.280 the Synagogue of Nazareth to move it to the 21st century. I believe that 780 01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:54.400 since you said very well that since a thousand in these last fifty years the 781 01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:59.360 Church has grown is infinitely more than in all previous centuries. Yes, yes, 782 01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:04.000 it is true that there is a pseudo church to the word of Our 783 01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:08.639 Lady speaks of a church that seems and is not. It is a mirage 784 01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:13.840 that is left without the provision of oil, which is needed to keep the 785 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:20.079 lamp lit and half of biblical Christianity, true Christianity. But yet and with 786 01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:25.400 it are millions and millions of people who have come to true faith in Jesus 787 01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:30.480 as their personal savior, their redeemer, recognizing their lack with God, that 788 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.199 we are all missing, but God gives a new life project in Christ, 789 01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:42.880 and that I believe we will be about to accomplish. Matthew twenty- four 790 01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:46.679 fourteen are close. We had never imagined you when Jesus uttered those words and 791 01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:51.159 there were ethnicities all over the earth, to whom they never had the context 792 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:56.000 or know who Jesus is. But Jesus left us here and told us go 793 01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:00.920 through all the nations and make disciples and was born. It does not mean 794 01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:04.079 so much geographical nations with borders. We' re meant to be ethnic. 795 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:14.519 Jesus. The word in the Greek was Thetné Then, of course, every 796 01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:17.399 ethnic group. So that' s what' s happening. Fifty years ago, 797 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:23.319 we were very far away, but today we are much closer. And 798 01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:29.079 if we, Congress has recognized as some twenty- five gaps that we have 799 01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:30.680 to cover to get to the last of the intense earth. And if we 800 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:35.800 agree, we begin to collaborate with each other intentionally from here, to two 801 01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:39.560 thousand and fifty, we can see a very significant breakthrough. I don' 802 01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:43.399 t know if we will have come from here by two thousand fifty to all 803 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.800 signs, but we will be very close to there being Christians in all the 804 01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:54.159 ethnicities of the Earth WOW proclaiming the Gospel of eternal salvation in Christ Jesus, 805 01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:59.079 and this is going to be very nice, very interesting, and GBG Groups 806 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:00.880 and this summer and these two last times you have in sight, because look 807 01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:06.880 in summer we have the camp of what we call summer GVU, where university 808 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:14.039 students come together and also where we have a political formation camp for them to 809 01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.920 sing this year. Then we open it and in three days it has been 810 01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.439 filled and then we have on the weekend of that same camp that come the 811 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:25.560 young professionals, those called Transitio, which is a program that we have for 812 01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:30.119 those who are in their first three years as professionals. So, and this 813 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:33.880 is our summer GVU, we are working on our concept, which is interesting, 814 01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:40.399 because we like to work in transition times. The first time of transition 815 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.359 is when you leave your studies and add to the professional world. But there 816 01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:49.119 are other great transitions when you finish the profession and retire, because we are 817 01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:55.800 starting a project called restart, which restarts is how to accompany those who retire 818 01:09:55.880 --> 01:10:02.399 to make retirement work. And I know you have Esther Martinez today. Yes, 819 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:05.880 and Esther Martínez is a part, she is one of those who is 820 01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:12.800 part of the group that is carrying out Reinicia, precisely because she is a 821 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:17.199 very concerned person with the whole issue of that transition to retirement. We also 822 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:24.439 have to think in December next, that we have the national meeting of GVG, 823 01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:28.680 that this year will be very special in cullera as well and we recommend 824 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:33.640 it to you the Christian professional and personal relations Pablo Martínez, Esteban Figuerido, 825 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:39.800 Liria, Martín, Danny Requena Esther Martínez, so that she will also be 826 01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:45.680 present in GVG the days of the five to eight of December of two thousand 827 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:49.880 twenty- four, in whose valence or opportunity. How beautiful he hears and 828 01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:57.119 what a woman Ther Partínez is of fantastic. She' s so multifaceted in 829 01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:00.960 so many subjects and so wise. She' s very wise, well, 830 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:04.279 a very well- kept, very prepared woman. I' m here because 831 01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:09.600 I' m with him. I' m sending a message right now, 832 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:11.840 we' re, we' ve got it now shortly, right now. 833 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:16.039 Yeah, hey, well, the truth is, jama. Thank you for 834 01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.640 accompanying us as always here live live, in the study and for these reflections 835 01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:27.039 open to heart, open almost eh and with the best of the intentions to 836 01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:35.479 establish bridges, to also seek to unstain a little this social irritation that is 837 01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:41.880 so strong and to calm the moods, bringing a little bit of the forgiveness 838 01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.760 of the Kingdom, that enormous forgiveness that we have received and that we distribute. 839 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:50.279 The word of God says that it is they who seek peace, the 840 01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:57.319 peacemakers, the children of God. In that sense, we want to be 841 01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:00.640 the peacemakers who are called children of God. Yes, well, my friend, 842 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:04.560 may God bless you and we' ll see each other for sure. 843 01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:14.039 Well true, Yes, what importance and joy to be able to be on 844 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:17.119 the fifty anniversary of that movement that has been giving such a great impulse to 845 01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:21.039 the Church of God in the world, for until soon, until soon you 846 01:12:21.119 --> 01:13:06.479 know it wants thanks to Omas or the train of life. Lies say they 847 01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:20.479 ' ll never change your hills and failure. You will define, but forget 848 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:30.640 me that your grace to save there is no place you can' t give 849 01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:43.039 you You' ve rescued me without weighing your story. The god of opportunity 850 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:54.600 has not finished, never will leave you, no matter when you have fallen 851 01:13:54.640 --> 01:14:05.079 his arms spread out, the god of opportunity, never leave you You do 852 01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:19.800 not have to pay what he called with his bloodthirsty sin found the otu oh 853 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:29.680 a saladon in the light, the wolf mor or in his has not vovered 854 01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:45.960 me ay saludoso or wrapped it to cen heavy historian has not finished the pleasure 855 01:14:45.159 --> 01:15:00.039 of opportunity, I have never left, no matter when you have fallen his 856 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:13.720 brazras scrimiros opportunida and never leave you no tea do not let you fly to 857 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:27.600 not vote where you get or do not make you embroidered as a speaker and 858 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:31.880 is right of the truth. You' re his macado son. So you 859 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:56.399 are his commanding son, and I am not your beloved son. No matter 860 01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:08.399 where it started, the godliness of opportunity is not over. I' d 861 01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:15.840 never leave you, no matter how much it' s embered. This guy 862 01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:40.680 says opportunity never doesn' t care, you don' t care or you 863 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:46.279 don' t. You don' t leave, it doesn' t matter 864 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:56.239 where he is. You don' t leave, you don' t walk 865 01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:58.159 away, no matter what you do walking down the bike lane. Like you 866 01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:00.680 don' t have a sidewalk. More people are encouraged to ride a bicycle 867 01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:05.600 to move around the city. So, in many places where there was only 868 01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:12.520 sidewalk before, there is now also bike lane. All drivers, cyclists, 869 01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:17.319 bikers and pedestrians share the street in the city. If we respect each other. 870 01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:21.800 There' s room for everyone. Directorate- General for Traffic, Ministry 871 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:27.880 of the Interior, Government of Spain. They will see in the ultrasound signs 872 01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:31.319 in the effect that after birth they may have problems of integration or difficulties in 873 01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:36.119 exercising professions of responsibility and even situations in which their physical integrity or life is 874 01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:40.399 endangered. But what' s it about, doctor, you' re gonna 875 01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:43.159 have a little girl. Discrimination against women in society results in abuse, injustice 876 01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:45.920 and ill- treatment. Don' t let him. They' re coming 877 01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:58.800 in. Act with Amnesty Org Amnesty International. The train of life a n 878 01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.399 o n o n s or exciting by the routes of the heart, an 879 01:18:03.439 --> 01:19:02.720 unforgettable journey at train pace or. Ladies and gentlemen, we are here in 880 01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:10.159 good company and it is a pleasure to hear voices I would say authorized, 881 01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:15.720 because you know what you talk about when we talk about how we just talked 882 01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:21.560 about other issues of today, with a vision of what we have to have, 883 01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:26.359 a worldview of what is happening around us. But also when we talk 884 01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:31.000 about issues that affect us very much today' s life, the rush, 885 01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:36.279 everything is. There' s social stress. In fact, it is one 886 01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:45.840 of the most important causes of casualties and work axentism, the stress that results 887 01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:53.520 in the worst cases of anxiety, depression and more pathologies. But for that 888 01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:57.640 we don' t know well. We know this way above, but someone 889 01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:01.720 has to explain to us what the topic is about, how it fights stress, 890 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:09.560 because the professor of the University also Esther Martínez Vera, but psychologist already 891 01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:15.079 of pro for many years, not only with own consultation, already very recognized, 892 01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:21.119 writer of magnificent books, by the way, but also she is lecturer 893 01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:28.520 for the pastors, for us to deal with pastoral issues that we have not 894 01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.560 known at all how to manage them if she has given us master classes and 895 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:38.079 lectures and conferences. And so it' s a pleasure to have her here 896 01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:41.960 today telling us about her next publication, which has to do with the topic 897 01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:46.000 of stress. How to fight stress. Good morning, Esther, very good 898 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.119 morning. I' m delighted to be with you. It' s really 899 01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:55.359 a pleasure. Thank you, Esther. Okay. The issue of stress is 900 01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:00.359 that they are on the order of the day that has stuck as one for 901 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.039 us. We don' t know how to get rid of him in major. 902 01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:06.680 There are different levels of stress, but there are some since they are, 903 01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:14.000 they are already really insane. No yes, there is even a good 904 01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:18.359 stress, I mean, there is a stress that we can call positive stress 905 01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:25.319 and in psychology we call it eu stress okay, that is, not everything 906 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.880 is bad, but it is true that in recent years it has become one 907 01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:39.119 of the worst psychological pathologies, because, as you mentioned very well, it 908 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:45.880 is cause of other pathologies or other psipopatologys that can lead us to work absenteeism 909 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:50.760 or school or even paralyze us. So, I think there' s a 910 01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:56.680 lot of ignorance as to exactly what this is, because sometimes we confuse it 911 01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:02.439 with anxiety or we' ll confuse it with depression and it' s quite 912 01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:05.840 different. If you want to start defining yes. Yes, please, stress 913 01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:16.880 would be all those pardons. Stress would be all those pressures that at some 914 01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:24.119 point enter our thinking, but that do not stay there, that after thought, 915 01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:30.119 pass to the body and from there begins a symptomatology that is the one 916 01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:35.399 that already takes us the anxiety to differentiate it a little bit. We would 917 01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:41.960 say that stress is when multiple thoughts come about about life pressures, the children 918 01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:46.079 of work. The money didn' t reach the end of the month to 919 01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:54.239 my body, the weight. Any concern that comes to our mind can be 920 01:22:54.359 --> 01:23:00.840 cause for stress. The problem is that the brain is very his and the 921 01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:06.000 brain when we have any of these concerns right away, he understands that we 922 01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:11.079 are in danger. And the most important thing I' m going to say 923 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:16.520 in this little while that we have the brain doesn' t distinguish whether the 924 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:21.399 concern is real or not. The brain simply takes care, makes it its 925 01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:29.760 own, and then comes to give us an emotion. That emotion is the 926 01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:34.560 one that will warn our body that we are supposedly in danger. Now, 927 01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:41.239 I repeat, it may be that we are in real danger and then we 928 01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:45.439 have to take care, not worry, that it is a real danger, 929 01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:51.039 but it may also be a futuristic issue or even an imaginary issue. Imagine 930 01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:57.640 that I' m very worried because I don' t know what can happen 931 01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:02.119 to a grandson in the brain. It takes it as reality and actuality. 932 01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:09.199 But imagine how little we know and what we have to say the Bible was 933 01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:18.000 right, because Jesus himself said do not worry. The sofa is enough today, 934 01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:25.159 because anything from the past, from the press or from the future is 935 01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:30.880 going to make us feel preoccupied, worried, especially the future. Worried, 936 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:38.319 the past blames and those two things lead us to live very stressed, worried. 937 01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:42.479 We have to put eight hundred thousand things in twenty- four hours. 938 01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:45.880 Right. A lady was telling me the other day. I think someone has 939 01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:50.359 changed the time, because our grandparents had the same 24 hours and they could 940 01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:56.079 sit in the sun or talk at the door and we have no time left 941 01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:01.680 for anything. Therefore, stress would be any factor that worried us, be 942 01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:10.000 present, past, future. And most importantly, the brain won' t 943 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:15.920 distinguish, it will always take it as if it were today. Then it 944 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:19.159 will give us the emotion that that is going to happen to the body and 945 01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:26.439 from there we will be talking about anxiety. Okay how interesting that is the 946 01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:32.319 stress process circuit, because it means that stress is a psychosomatic experience, right, 947 01:25:33.439 --> 01:25:39.199 because it starts with the mind and then it starts to somatize and we 948 01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:44.840 have effects on the body when the star is a little untied. True yes, 949 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:53.720 look, we have four, four issues that can lead us to take 950 01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:59.399 the leap to the generalized anxiety that we already have all the somatizations in agreement 951 01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:06.319 there. We start out of excessive concern for anything, and I repeat what 952 01:26:06.439 --> 01:26:12.000 a patient is all about. He recently came and started telling me I' 953 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:15.600 m very worried about my daughter. I don' t understand how the times 954 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:20.600 are true today, not only concerned, but very concerned about the Vale children 955 01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:26.319 and about the daughter and if they get drugs and if they have a sexual 956 01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:30.000 abuse and after a while. I' m asking you, but you have 957 01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:34.159 your daughter, and she tells me five years. Okay. The woman was 958 01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:40.640 right, but her brain was living it as if the daughter was old enough 959 01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:45.000 for all that to happen. Then what happens to the brain. When we 960 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:49.720 had the worry, when we have a second thing, which is pessimism, 961 01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:57.359 when we have fears, when we have a series of things that disturb our 962 01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:01.640 brains, understand that we are in danger and give us an emotion. Then 963 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:05.720 let' s put it in parts of the brain. The first part is 964 01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:13.840 lived in the frontal or prefrontal cortex. There we live negative thoughts, worries, 965 01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:20.159 fears. But that area of the brain immediately alerts another area of the 966 01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:26.279 brain called the limbic system. And in the limic system is where the emotion 967 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:31.880 appears. Once we have the emotion in one sense, we have missed the 968 01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:38.439 train so that it does not pass to the body. As soon as we 969 01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:44.920 live the emotion, imagine any concern, any concern that gives us fear pessimism. 970 01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:49.680 Immediately take control of the Libyan system. What emotion are we going to 971 01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:54.520 have? We' re going to be in distress, we' re going 972 01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:59.159 to be more afraid. We' re going to have any negative emotion and 973 01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:03.880 from there, the body already takes over. From there we have missed the 974 01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:11.479 train to stop who takes over, because look from the emotion, the whole 975 01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:18.800 chain in doctrine is affected until we reach some small glands that we have above 976 01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:28.920 our kidneys, which are called adrenal capsules. Those will be the ones that 977 01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:35.600 will give the chemistry reciprocating that stress that started in the Cortex. What chemistry, 978 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:42.479 then, will give us a voice, will give us adrenaline and will 979 01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:48.760 give us a tison. These two that happen in our bloodstream are gonna make 980 01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:58.279 us somatic. That' s where the troubles start. How interesting to know 981 01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:03.399 a little, to know ourselves about things like stress and because we talked in 982 01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:10.479 a moment about how to anticipate situations of stress that can be chronicled, because 983 01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:15.520 one of the things I remember clearly and there are trades that are very prone 984 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:23.159 to stress and ours is one of them. Uh, I remember Esther that 985 01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:27.159 you' ve given us talks about this to pastors and other issues that have 986 01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:30.760 helped us a lot, a lot, a lot because of the issue of 987 01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:33.920 taking care of yourself and so many other things not, but, for example, 988 01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:38.119 scenic fear. I remember there was a time a few years ago that 989 01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:42.560 I had gora, phobia. Fear is when we are people, we have 990 01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:46.359 public, we have to talk or anyone in business or teaching or whatever. 991 01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:55.479 And that' s that stress cause that' s already triggered and I don 992 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:58.399 ' t know and you can' t solve it that easily. You have 993 01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:02.960 to submit to a process I really explain, look you said it very well. 994 01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:09.000 Any fear, any stage panic, anything. You worry, you think, 995 01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:14.520 I' m going to faint, I' m not going to be 996 01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:16.479 able to speak the negative thought you want immediately. That thought that we have 997 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:24.640 in the front cut becomes emotion in the flax system anguish, anguish. There 998 01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:29.840 I said, we miss the train and pass our adrenals. It' s 999 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:33.239 two little capsulites. These give us two chemicals and I' ll explain them 1000 01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:36.439 to you so you can see how we counter them later. The two chemicals 1001 01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:43.119 are, I said, adrenaline and cortisol. Adrenaline gives us our body so 1002 01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:50.279 that we can fight or run away against what is supposedly a danger. Then 1003 01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:55.920 the body overactivates us. Or overactive the body. It gives us taquita ardia, 1004 01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.279 it gives us sweating and you are there on the bench that you have 1005 01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:06.319 to go up to the stand, preach or give a lecture and we have 1006 01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:12.239 the aogola, the heart rhythm suffocated, the sweating is worth. All that 1007 01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:15.600 is the fruit of the adrenaline that gives it to you so that you can 1008 01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:19.560 run away. But if you don' t run away, you' re 1009 01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:21.800 gonna have to put up with it. Okay, you' re gonna have 1010 01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:26.439 to put up with him. What happens that our day to day are not 1011 01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:30.920 punctual things, but that we go from stress to stress and shooting because it 1012 01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:35.079 touches me. We get up in the morning. We get a worry about 1013 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:39.439 adrenaline after two hours at seven o' clock in the afternoon. You have 1014 01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:45.439 to give an adrenaline conference. What happens that we' re accumulating it and 1015 01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:49.159 we' re accumulating somatizations. You go to the doctor and he says, 1016 01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:54.119 you tell you, I have tachycardia, I have cordial pressure, I have 1017 01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:57.640 diarrhea its duration. You have anxiety, it' s true, because I 1018 01:31:57.640 --> 01:31:59.439 am. It' s already passed to the body. So, it' 1019 01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:03.359 s already ansio. But when he spends some time with that adrenaline on and 1020 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:10.520 we all go on the same train, the cortisol appears and the cortisol lowers 1021 01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:15.359 our defenses and exhausts us. And if we don' t stop worrying, 1022 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:24.279 distressing, now we' ll live with hyperactivated adrenaline and cortisol, with defenses 1023 01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:30.039 on the subway. And not only that, but with tremendous fatigue. We 1024 01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:35.720 are already in a generalized anxiety, that is, in a sense the metamorphose 1025 01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:43.319 stress towards anxiety. This is your question as to how it works, because 1026 01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:48.079 we can fight it on two paths. The first would be by way of 1027 01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:56.600 thought, heeding Bible instructions. Both the apostle Paul and the apostle Peter are 1028 01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:02.399 taxative. The apostle Paul will say finally think four from verse six. You 1029 01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:08.399 ' re not worried about anything. I told you. If you start worrying, 1030 01:33:10.039 --> 01:33:15.319 it will pass your limbic system as emotion of emotion. There is a 1031 01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:21.920 step to chemistry, because pay it in thought. If we couldn' t 1032 01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:26.800 do it, I know it' s very difficult, but if we couldn 1033 01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:27.439 ' t do it, I wouldn' t send it to us. Sir, 1034 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:33.560 instead, he tells us nothing is carefree. The Bible is full of 1035 01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:41.560 busy but not concerned. We have to say this is a concern that gives 1036 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:48.239 me fear and anguish. I have to pay you to stop and turn and 1037 01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:54.920 if I get dizzy and if I don' t know how to say it 1038 01:33:55.039 --> 01:34:00.119 as if, as if I could, because the lord is with me Philippians 1039 01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:06.840 four, thirteen, I can do everything in Christ that strengthens me, but 1040 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:09.840 we remain in Philippians four in six for nothing you are concerned. Point two 1041 01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:15.239 let your petitions be known in prayer. That' s what you' re 1042 01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:21.359 worried about. Take it to the Lord in prayer, but leave it there 1043 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:27.399 we are so I don' t know what qualification put but we are, 1044 01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:31.600 we believe so little, and that the Lord will do with his power something 1045 01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:39.560 in us that when we just asked for something that worries us, we get 1046 01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:45.880 up and take it back because we confuse not worrying with irresponsibility. That' 1047 01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:51.239 s a gacfal failure because what makes us responsible is to take care of ourselves. 1048 01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:57.840 But don' t worry, then how we beat him up. We 1049 01:34:57.960 --> 01:35:02.640 are in front of one going out to give a preaching. It doesn' 1050 01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:09.479 t start breathing in the abdomen for anything. I' m calm and I 1051 01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:12.279 ' m thinking that the Lord is going to give me the same as he 1052 01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:13.520 is, because he' s going to be by my side. I mean, 1053 01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:15.920 what I' m telling you is get ready over here, by the 1054 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:23.520 way of the brain. The first thing is that this concern must be left 1055 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.840 in the arms of the Lord. But there' s another third step. 1056 01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:34.399 He says gratefully. Thank you is a vaccine for anxiety. It takes away 1057 01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:38.880 our bitterness. It takes the anxiety away from us. We have to be 1058 01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:43.000 grateful, sir, thank you, because I' m here and I can 1059 01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:44.399 live with him as I do, because you' re going to help me. 1060 01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:45.760 But there' s another way I don' t want to leave. 1061 01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:53.119 This is the way of thought. And I do not want to leave the 1062 01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:59.720 first apostle Peter of Peter five seven, casting all your anxiety upon him, 1063 01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:02.560 because the uncle takes care of you. But I' m going to go 1064 01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:06.800 to another way, which is a more organic way, more of the body. 1065 01:36:08.479 --> 01:36:12.720 How can I make that all that has already escaped me and gone adrenaline 1066 01:36:12.840 --> 01:36:18.079 and cortisol to go down, because there are many mechanisms, many and I 1067 01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:23.880 will tell you a few for people to keep and embrace and use them every 1068 01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:31.640 day. The first mechanism already explained to you, the brain that you have 1069 01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:38.800 to obey the divine laws for nothing is difficult, but we can in a 1070 01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:42.640 sense, get used to taking the reins. You' re the boss of 1071 01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.600 your command, I' m going to send without anguish. But the second 1072 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:53.199 thing is raising another hormone that, like what I told you about adrenaline and 1073 01:36:53.239 --> 01:37:00.359 cortisol, comes as soon as you start with the nervous system touched and in 1074 01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:05.680 the sympathetic neor deso system comes the derenaline the cortisus. But there' s 1075 01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:12.680 one way that we can help lower those hormanas and it' s mostly through 1076 01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:20.239 another hormone that we can manage. The hormone is called oxytocin. Oxytocin and 1077 01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:27.479 I have been working for years because when I finished psychology, I thought the 1078 01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:31.399 body is the recipient of any emotion and I have been researching this subject that 1079 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:39.359 is now well known. But oxytocin is a hormone called skin hormone. It 1080 01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:42.920 ' s mom' s hormone when she gives birth. It' s the 1081 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:48.000 mom' s hormone when breastfeeding her child raises this hormone and lowers, that 1082 01:37:48.039 --> 01:37:55.880 is, more oxytocin, less stress hormones. If we are able to raise 1083 01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:01.199 that chemistry, our three will defend from because it descends on all cortisol. 1084 01:38:02.520 --> 01:38:06.920 Then I tell you things to raise oxytocin. I guess we' re going 1085 01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:11.439 really bad in time, but let me list them for you. It' 1086 01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:14.600 s worth how long you have. Not the one you need is good, 1087 01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:18.279 because I' m going to give you a few recommendations. Train place hugs 1088 01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:28.680 and caresses. That raises oxidation. You want to prevent? That' s 1089 01:38:28.760 --> 01:38:33.359 what you want to prevent stress from turning into anxiety, hugging the dog a 1090 01:38:33.399 --> 01:38:39.680 lot, that is, animals, people. In that we are quite good, 1091 01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:45.399 evangelical Christians, because our churches are full of hugs and we have to 1092 01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:50.560 do them and they are free also, and they are graces. During the 1093 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:58.720 pandemic, that was terrible. Then we had an avalanche of problems, of 1094 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.800 stress, of anxiety because we had given each other our elbow, which was 1095 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:03.439 already terrible. I said don' t give me your elbow, please give 1096 01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:09.239 me something. That is to say, we must return to hugs, embrace 1097 01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:15.760 our husbands, embrace our wives, embrace our children, our grandchildren. And 1098 01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:19.000 experts say it' s got to be eight minutes hugs, eight minutes, 1099 01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:26.920 eight minutes, no forgiveness eight seconds eight, eight seconds that we consciously hug 1100 01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:34.600 each other. I' m hugging a person It' s worth the caresses 1101 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:39.439 Look at the caresses They' re not what you said They' re free. 1102 01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:44.079 What it costs us if we go down the street and grab our wife 1103 01:39:44.199 --> 01:39:48.920 by the arm or put the arm on the back, the tenderness of the 1104 01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:53.199 husband raises the oxytocin on the wife. This is another subject that does not 1105 01:39:53.239 --> 01:40:00.439 touch now, but any caress, but also verbal caresses. I said the 1106 01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:09.960 other day in a lecture the simple look at us with friendly complicity, not 1107 01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:15.279 the being medicine for another person with our attentive gaze or our words. Words 1108 01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:23.479 can kill or give life, and we are medical people when we use our 1109 01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:31.960 words for good hugs, caresses, words spend time with loved ones quijares that 1110 01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:39.560 the phrase we say the most today is do not tempt, I do not 1111 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:43.800 have time, we meet to make a coffee. I don' t have 1112 01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:45.880 time, or, well, we did meet to make a coffee that would 1113 01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:49.720 make it look like a coffee ever. We don' t have time on 1114 01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:57.479 our agendas to sit in a cafeteria with another person without having the motive that 1115 01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:03.439 ' s crushing our lives and looking at us and being calm and enjoying the 1116 01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:08.520 sun. That thing that seems so simple, it' s going to kill 1117 01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:15.319 us. Another thing that raises oxytocin is physical exercise. Thirty minutes each day 1118 01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:23.239 of physical exercise do the miracle of counteracting stress hormones. Now what' s 1119 01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:25.880 wrong with us. We don' t have time. The other day a 1120 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:29.159 lady told me I' m going to delete myself from the gym, because 1121 01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:36.159 I pay for gym without ever going well, because walking out for a run 1122 01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:43.520 and if you go out with something of nature, around you better, because 1123 01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:46.920 the trees also give some phytochemicals that will help us. I' m finishing 1124 01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:57.520 up a very important thing. Meditation produces oxytocin and, of course, the 1125 01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:05.920 word meditation and immediately we are all alerted, but it is that the evangelical 1126 01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:15.880 people were a people of meditation. In the word we have written a little 1127 01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:23.680 booklet that is entitled not all meditations are the same, which I recommend and 1128 01:42:23.800 --> 01:42:29.319 there we are saying. But what need we have to go to other meditations 1129 01:42:29.479 --> 01:42:33.279 when we have the meditation of the creator or the creator of the universe. 1130 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:42.119 Of course we can meditate on creation, but we can meditate on the word 1131 01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:47.520 and we will get oxytocin up. Any other meditation too, but we don 1132 01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:53.760 ' t have it. We have a crime, because we can meditate on 1133 01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:58.359 the word of the Lord and in addition to growing spiritually, it will not 1134 01:42:58.359 --> 01:43:02.079 rise to oxytocin. If we do it in the middle, our breathing raises 1135 01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:08.720 oxytocin. When we' re about to go up to a little pulpit, 1136 01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:13.840 let' s breathe in the abdomen. You know I used to, when 1137 01:43:13.960 --> 01:43:19.399 I had to have a pulpit and there was a time of previous praise, 1138 01:43:20.760 --> 01:43:27.520 I didn' t sing until I understood that when I sang I breathed well 1139 01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:31.000 and it lowered my cortisol. Then let' s wash the lord because why 1140 01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:36.239 do you fall down oh my soul wait on God, because I still idea 1141 01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:42.520 to lower praise, not on oxidation. We get cytokine on shared meals, 1142 01:43:43.199 --> 01:43:48.039 we get oxytocin on taking care of others, that is, I' ve 1143 01:43:48.079 --> 01:43:50.960 already said a lot of things. Therefore, if you have made a list, 1144 01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:59.359 think that we can do something for ourselves so that this pandemic of stress 1145 01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:03.800 is reduced, and we can do it for two days, mentally, obeying 1146 01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:15.039 the Lord and physically, taking care of ourselves and our interpersonal relationships. WOW. 1147 01:44:15.159 --> 01:44:20.680 I take note of a lot of things you said there because they' 1148 01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:26.359 re thinking oxytocin, see their cortisol. Because yes, sir, yes, 1149 01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:30.479 sir, yes, sir, you said it perfect. The book I' 1150 01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:33.520 m writing isn' t so much about stress. It' s included, 1151 01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:39.520 but it' s the brain and how it' s going to process all 1152 01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:41.439 of this our brain and there' s going to be everything I' ve 1153 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:45.880 explained a little bit wider. But yes, Mr A, more oxytocin, 1154 01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:50.079 less for you are yes how interesting and how many things, uh, and 1155 01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:55.680 notice what you have said, things that are within our reach, that are 1156 01:44:55.840 --> 01:45:00.680 rewarding, that are simple, but that are so powerful, powerful each of 1157 01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:08.199 them, and that we improve ourselves and improve our environment, our relationships with 1158 01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:14.680 others and with ourselves. And that' s good, look. When you 1159 01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:17.039 said one of the texts, I say it because the practical, this section 1160 01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:19.439 of the subject of meditation, I liked very well everything you have told. 1161 01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:28.680 But the subject of nadisophanesos I discovered something and surely you too, as a 1162 01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:32.239 psychologist, because a study has been made about this general and that was published 1163 01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:38.520 a few years ago in many media. On the subject of prayer, I 1164 01:45:38.840 --> 01:45:45.079 have first discovered that all your petitions are well known before God. I have 1165 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:50.520 listened to prayers when I do it in practice, I do it every day 1166 01:45:50.640 --> 01:45:57.920 because I like it and I need it, and I release so many things 1167 01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:02.000 at that time. I release so many things from my life, my mind 1168 01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:08.279 and my soul and my body. I believe everything in prayer I have discovered 1169 01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:13.359 that by praying I free myself from anxiety, I free myself from stress. 1170 01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:17.560 Well, you' re free because you generate oxytocin, of course, and 1171 01:46:17.680 --> 01:46:21.279 this, obviously, the Holy Spirit knew, because it' s our creator, 1172 01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:24.560 but the apostle Paul wasn' t going to say there. You' 1173 01:46:24.720 --> 01:46:27.199 ll get rid of the profi sun with oxytocin. I wouldn' t have 1174 01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:31.680 understood anything, but of course, of course, then, but now we 1175 01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:33.880 can know that the Bible is right. Yeah, yeah, that family' 1176 01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:41.119 s right. And science. The only thing he does when I was psychology 1177 01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:45.399 back there in prehistory, every time for me was how big he is? 1178 01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:49.880 How big is he? How great God, who has created this brain that 1179 01:46:50.039 --> 01:46:55.159 has these abilities that most of us do not yet know how they work. 1180 01:46:56.840 --> 01:47:02.479 How can we not believe in a created God? That' s when we 1181 01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:09.760 ' ll have that publication at our fingertips. It usually takes a few months. 1182 01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:15.079 I don' t know, I can' t say, because if 1183 01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:16.640 I spent all the time, I' d probably be. But now I 1184 01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:20.279 have to see if in the two months of summer I can give him a 1185 01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:27.600 push. Wow, well, we expect it, not with anxiety, but 1186 01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:32.920 eagerly giving all the anxiety, not with cortí sun, but with oxyto. 1187 01:47:33.079 --> 01:47:41.279 Yeah, listen to what' s interesting. Thank you, because they are 1188 01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:45.720 things that are so practical, so suggestive, so necessary in such a fast 1189 01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:49.720 world. It' s just that everything' s in a thousand an hour, 1190 01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:57.319 all over the world and by land and sea and air, and then 1191 01:47:57.399 --> 01:47:58.319 I' ve told you a lot of things in a hurry. Yeah, 1192 01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:03.119 ' cause now out of ten lectures you can ask me for eight are stress. 1193 01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:08.000 Yeah, so today I didn' t want this program, which is 1194 01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:12.960 short, to give you some tools. That is why I have spoken very 1195 01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:17.079 well in prison, but it is possible to break down a great deal, 1196 01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:23.920 to think of every one of the things I have said to you and to 1197 01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:28.199 expand them in the local church and to make our members that the Lord says 1198 01:48:28.199 --> 01:48:30.800 that we rest, that the Lord says that we have a Sabbath, that 1199 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:35.439 on that Sabbath we go to the field, that it is for the Lord 1200 01:48:35.439 --> 01:48:36.159 that we are praising, not stopping meeting in the field. We don' 1201 01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:40.680 t meet, we don' t stop meeting, but then we can go 1202 01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:43.720 to rest. Yes, yes, well, it' s good, but 1203 01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:46.039 it' s a good thing to say the thing has a lot one day, 1204 01:48:46.199 --> 01:48:49.279 that is, we' re going to enjoy it more thoroughly, surely 1205 01:48:49.399 --> 01:48:59.000 with the book in hand that develops each section, because this Martinez will see 1206 01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:01.600 psychologist, writer, lecturer and also thank you very much for your public appearance 1207 01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:05.720 on the train of life. Thank you very much, for it has been 1208 01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:12.680 an immense pleasure and I hope that I have not burdened you with the multitude 1209 01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:15.960 of things in a short time, but as you can run away again I 1210 01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:21.600 imagine yes, then you hear it calmer and you are thinking what I have 1211 01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:24.800 to change so that my stress does not turn into anxiety and pass to me 1212 01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:29.399 leather. Not only is it not an distress, but it is a release 1213 01:49:30.039 --> 01:49:33.640 from stress, listening to guidelines to follow to free ourselves and fight stress. 1214 01:49:34.600 --> 01:49:40.560 Thank you, don' t spare the hugs. I loved this, this 1215 01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:45.159 is that it is and is very much in the DNA of the Christian Community. 1216 01:49:45.319 --> 01:49:48.119 My husband. The thing is, he takes it seriously and hugs me. 1217 01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:51.720 He tells me one, two, three, three, three, I 1218 01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:58.600 don' t get an eight. That was a very affectionate hug. Goodbye 1219 01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:27.399 This day is always from Chao on the train of life life life hello. 1220 01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:40.039 Friends, it' s Julio Perez. You know that I am the director 1221 01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:46.479 of the radio program Magaxing Weekly, the train of life, and it does 1222 01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:51.760 nothing less than thirty- two years that we travel through many human landscapes and 1223 01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:57.119 many curiosities and things of life, of earthly life and of heavenly life. 1224 01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:03.960 I also have the joy of telling you that I have published my book, 1225 01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:09.840 a book that has to do with the train of life. There are fifty 1226 01:51:11.279 --> 01:51:17.680 selected articles written by me. There are six seasons and in each season there 1227 01:51:17.760 --> 01:51:25.399 is a section of eight reflections, temporary reflections for an eternal destiny. These 1228 01:51:25.479 --> 01:51:30.399 are the things I tell in this book. They are perceptions, analysis, 1229 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:41.920 experiences, comments that other curiosity also in those fifty reflections in those six stations, 1230 01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:45.439 until we reach the term station that there is also a section, a 1231 01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:50.680 very important block. This book can already be found on Amazon on the editorial 1232 01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:56.319 platform of Amazón. Traveling on the train of life is called the book. 1233 01:51:56.640 --> 01:52:00.960 It' s the title of the book Traveling on the Train of Life. 1234 01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:08.159 Julio Pérez, a server is the author. Then there you can well know 1235 01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:13.319 that the train tells us about trips, trips through life. Life is a 1236 01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:17.479 kind of living parable, like a running train, that there are so many 1237 01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:24.079 sensations and so many experiences inside the train and what we are seeing inside and 1238 01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:30.119 what we see from the train out. Well, that' s where I 1239 01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:31.199 propose you have access to this book. Looking at this book has done so 1240 01:52:31.199 --> 01:52:34.640 with great affection. I think there are things that are very warm, very 1241 01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:41.960 very intimate and others not so intimate, are very open, but it is 1242 01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:45.960 a book that I have done from the heart and with the heart traveling on 1243 01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:50.720 the train of life. It is the title of a Julio Pérez server on 1244 01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:57.560 Amazon' s editorial platform. You can find him. The book has a 1245 01:52:57.640 --> 01:53:02.560 cost of fifteen euros in about 180 pages and everything collected from that book is 1246 01:53:02.640 --> 01:53:11.520 invested, reinvested in the radio project of wave Pazo Napu and in the train 1247 01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:15.760 of life. Of course it is part of the project is for this to 1248 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:20.359 be put on and kept going as long as it never stops So, I 1249 01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:25.479 remind you and I thank you in advance for buying my book on Amazon' 1250 01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:31.600 s platform traveling on a server' s life train, Julio Pérez. Thank 1251 01:53:32.079 --> 01:54:01.800 you for always you travel on the train of life. Well, then, 1252 01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:04.960 with your permission from Doctor Rocca, you' ve wanted Julio, how are 1253 01:54:04.960 --> 01:54:12.399 you? Well, thank God. Here thinking of the pain involved in joint 1254 01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:18.000 pains, which are sometimes detectable, but sometimes undetectable. There are some who 1255 01:54:18.119 --> 01:54:23.960 know where they are, but others who are there wrapped in tendons, muscles, 1256 01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:30.560 nerves, truth, the army of the apparatus. Let' s say 1257 01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:38.399 what is the set of bones, joints, ligaments, pendones, all that 1258 01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:43.880 muscle structure, because you can have a lot of diseases, a lot of 1259 01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:48.960 different causes. Some of them treatable and with good results can be solved, 1260 01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:54.479 others of them very complicated, and some of them, therefore, that border 1261 01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:59.159 on the exasperation of doctors and patients because of the great difficulty that it has, 1262 01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:03.640 therefore, to control that symptom, that is the pain and that is 1263 01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:11.680 so annoying for the patient and that many times, because it is the work 1264 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:16.399 of the doctors, the relief is pained our patients, because it is very 1265 01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:21.399 incapacitating. Of course, for example, there are sensitive differences, for example, 1266 01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:28.039 osteoarthritis, which is a chronic disease for many people of articular cartilage generative, 1267 01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:33.880 which is not necessarily associated with inflammation. Right. You said it. 1268 01:55:34.399 --> 01:55:38.920 Look at that. The Greek term to cao, to enosis, to tosis, 1269 01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:47.920 is a regeneration. It is the process to which a joint evolves either 1270 01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:54.039 by wear or by trauma, or because there has previously been some kind of 1271 01:55:54.119 --> 01:56:00.560 inflammatory process that he has destroyed. And then there' s a divided vitality 1272 01:56:00.600 --> 01:56:04.960 of the articular, the articular cartilage. Let' s say it' s 1273 01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:10.279 the smooth part, the sliding part, a part that' s located in 1274 01:56:10.359 --> 01:56:12.760 a liquid that' s like a liquid oil and a bridal. And when 1275 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:16.159 this cartilage is destroyed, sometimes because it goes cluttering, it goes piercing, 1276 01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:21.399 it is destroyed, then the crew what makes rub bone with bone, already 1277 01:56:21.399 --> 01:56:28.119 without protection, without the oily sliding area, and that causes great pain to 1278 01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:35.479 the patients. Then that too can affect any joint. But the more weight 1279 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:42.319 that joint supports, the easier it will be to wear out. That' 1280 01:56:42.359 --> 01:56:45.840 s why we' re going to see higher levels of osteoarthritis in the knees, 1281 01:56:46.359 --> 01:56:50.520 hips, lumbar region, cervical region, which we also mobilize a lot 1282 01:56:51.239 --> 01:56:57.199 in the head. We are constantly moving it, because all these joints are 1283 01:56:57.239 --> 01:57:01.119 going to be more prone to this articular degeneration and, therefore, this type 1284 01:57:01.159 --> 01:57:09.399 of problem that is age- specific will appear. I' d tell you 1285 01:57:09.479 --> 01:57:15.159 life socks, advanced stockings, and that' s good, because many times 1286 01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:23.399 some doctors call this type of patient affectionately the patient will voltarén tomo. We 1287 01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:29.359 can do more for the poor than help him, relieve him if you are 1288 01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:35.600 over- prisoned, improve his weight, if there is any alteration of the 1289 01:57:35.760 --> 01:57:41.720 alignment of the joints, especially in legs, because try to try in lime 1290 01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:46.680 or columns, try to align as much as possible, with different tricks, 1291 01:57:47.640 --> 01:57:49.079 with different exercises, with different rehabilitations, as far as possible. But I 1292 01:57:49.119 --> 01:57:53.119 always tell my patients that arthros is the one to start treating her in childhood. 1293 01:57:54.479 --> 01:57:57.079 And when I tell you this it gets and how it can be, 1294 01:57:57.600 --> 01:58:02.840 because you do have to check the children, the teenagers, especially when we 1295 01:58:02.920 --> 01:58:06.279 enter that phase of ponce twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years, that 1296 01:58:06.399 --> 01:58:13.039 you know that there are boys and girls, because we do the typical stiron, 1297 01:58:13.359 --> 01:58:15.560 because we try to make the joints the most aligned. Hence we do 1298 01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:20.239 have a whole range of medical methods to improve. If not correct 100% 1299 01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:28.279 correct as much as possible. We use different methods that we' re doing 1300 01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:31.279 right now. We are doing a preventive medicine, because that patient at that 1301 01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:38.159 time probably does not see the benefit, but he will have it after the 1302 01:58:38.199 --> 01:58:41.119 years, because when I say a mature age, because if he has his 1303 01:58:41.239 --> 01:58:45.960 bones more aligned, his joints work better controls his weight, which is he 1304 01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:48.920 knows is a problem that is increasing day by day in our country, because 1305 01:58:49.560 --> 01:58:54.920 the patient will have less suffering and, therefore, will have Christmas of better 1306 01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:58.960 quality, which is what can be done in those cases. Sure, then 1307 01:58:59.039 --> 01:59:02.399 there' s one. Artsis is a very similar thing, but arthritis, 1308 01:59:02.760 --> 01:59:08.159 on the other hand, involves inflammation, pain, stiffness or deformity of our 1309 01:59:08.239 --> 01:59:15.119 joints, of one or several. In many cases, and this is one 1310 01:59:15.239 --> 01:59:18.319 of the causes of more than fifty percent of job losses in the country. 1311 01:59:20.720 --> 01:59:26.239 So it' s also an important cause. Arthritis, if you look at 1312 01:59:26.319 --> 01:59:29.159 it here, we make it look like it' s an itis. If 1313 01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:34.279 the word itis, then it is inflammation, not nesting and you oti and 1314 01:59:34.600 --> 01:59:41.319 treble hoarding is worth all these are inflammations. Then the inflammation is because it 1315 01:59:41.479 --> 01:59:45.279 occurs. Well, it doesn' t happen for different reasons. It can 1316 01:59:45.439 --> 01:59:53.399 be viral, it can be bacterial, it can be trauma, it can 1317 01:59:53.520 --> 02:00:00.640 be generative, it can be because of an inflammatory disease that has to do 1318 02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:08.439 with the genetics or autoimmune process that the organism itself attacks its own structures and 1319 02:00:08.520 --> 02:00:12.960 generates these inflammations and, therefore, it is a tremendous problem. Some of 1320 02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:17.079 them have their own name, like the rheumatous crisis idea, which, therefore, 1321 02:00:17.239 --> 02:00:25.800 is an entity that has that name, because there is a knowledge behind 1322 02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:30.079 that guides us to the diagnosis and is also oriented to the tract. It 1323 02:00:30.119 --> 02:00:33.720 is also true that there are painful processes that are neither itis niosis. That 1324 02:00:33.800 --> 02:00:40.640 is, there are some processes such as legeper descalvet disease, which is a 1325 02:00:40.640 --> 02:00:44.760 vascular disease that occurs in childhood, in the hips and can be very invalid 1326 02:00:45.560 --> 02:00:53.079 and will also be accused with pain. Even this is tremendous, because if 1327 02:00:53.159 --> 02:00:57.560 you don' t get time and sometimes still doing the right thing, treatments 1328 02:00:57.640 --> 02:01:00.800 don' t always work. Unfortunately, that is the patient can be left 1329 02:01:00.920 --> 02:01:08.720 with a dysplacia or a deformity or a major alteration of the boiler circulation, 1330 02:01:09.079 --> 02:01:14.560 so in inflammatory ends. Dear July, because we have a whole lot, 1331 02:01:15.239 --> 02:01:20.239 some of them nonspecific, some of them transitory, without more importance than with 1332 02:01:20.359 --> 02:01:30.680 the simple anti- clamatory, conventional or alternative treatment we can solve the process 1333 02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:38.239 and sometimes not, other times the patient after we have to submit to treatments 1334 02:01:38.239 --> 02:01:42.399 unfortunately, very aggressive. Sure, well, let' s stop at the 1335 02:01:42.520 --> 02:01:49.640 pain issue. But one last pathology that in recent years was nonspecific, did 1336 02:01:51.000 --> 02:01:56.159 not have a definite description, but now more or less has it, which 1337 02:01:56.279 --> 02:02:04.800 is fibromyalgia. It' s also one of polyar tritis. I' d 1338 02:02:05.119 --> 02:02:12.239 say in the human body. What about fibromyergy? Well, look at the 1339 02:02:12.239 --> 02:02:15.680 phyguromagia. You used to give the truth, corroborated it that it attacks the 1340 02:02:15.880 --> 02:02:20.439 female sex more than the male. And you know, generally speaking, the 1341 02:02:20.520 --> 02:02:26.840 woman is more sensitive. She accepted the joke that as God did, then 1342 02:02:27.399 --> 02:02:33.439 made her better that, but she is more sensitive to why, her emotionality, 1343 02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:39.319 her sedentrability. And you know that within the women' s group, 1344 02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:44.640 I mean, there' s a certain percentage that has a sensitivity that I 1345 02:02:44.640 --> 02:02:45.880 ' d say extreme. That' s the way it is. That' 1346 02:02:46.319 --> 02:02:50.399 s given by nature, by genetics. You don' t say that. 1347 02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:56.000 Everyone' s the way it' s worth it. There is extreme sensitivity 1348 02:02:56.119 --> 02:03:00.359 of some people, the most beautiful women, but care not exclusively. There 1349 02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:06.079 are also where I get my villager perceive the pain more intensely, so that 1350 02:03:06.159 --> 02:03:12.279 what for another could be mild moderate pain for already can be intense pain, 1351 02:03:12.600 --> 02:03:19.039 very intense. That, to begin with, in a certain percentage of these 1352 02:03:19.119 --> 02:03:26.079 people who seem to throw myarcy, we can find a cause of having previously 1353 02:03:26.239 --> 02:03:30.640 had a viral infection. This, then, seems to be clarifying that this 1354 02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:38.560 prior bilic infection can leave this sequelae that kind of sensitivity. But anyway, 1355 02:03:38.960 --> 02:03:44.159 these poor people have a real ordeal, because it' s not something that 1356 02:03:44.319 --> 02:03:46.600 you' re going to treat in a week in fifteen days, it' 1357 02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:53.720 s going to seem, but sometimes it' s treatments that are multidisciplinary, 1358 02:03:55.520 --> 02:04:02.279 where we have to be in conventional doctors of alternative medicine, doctors who today 1359 02:04:02.760 --> 02:04:06.560 also find in personality problems, in terms of nervousness, in so much anxiety, 1360 02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:11.199 in terms of depression, because many times this is a whole paque that 1361 02:04:11.359 --> 02:04:15.800 is not a thing that you say good, is that look is an inflamed 1362 02:04:15.880 --> 02:04:19.800 phalanx, a baby and called. It is not a recurrent process and often 1363 02:04:20.840 --> 02:04:28.199 does not affect the joints properly, but the ligamentous tissue, being jointed And 1364 02:04:28.399 --> 02:04:31.199 many times, if this were not enough, it is also accompanied by a 1365 02:04:31.319 --> 02:04:36.600 great tiredness. That' s where we also talk about chronic fatigue syndrome Algia 1366 02:04:36.640 --> 02:04:43.960 phylomy is a complex issue and treatment is not 100 percent necita. Unfortunately, 1367 02:04:44.720 --> 02:04:47.159 not a single good saying, because everyone does this and it' s going 1368 02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:50.920 to work for them. There are no people who are better off with anogesics, 1369 02:04:51.439 --> 02:04:57.800 others are better off with small doses of antidepressants, others are better with 1370 02:04:58.239 --> 02:05:05.680 anxiolytic combinations, etc, massages, etc, so that they can at least 1371 02:05:06.039 --> 02:05:11.840 make them bearable and give these poor patients a certain quality of life who have 1372 02:05:11.920 --> 02:05:16.159 it with phylomyargy. Of course, there we find the fibromyalgia patients, which 1373 02:05:16.279 --> 02:05:25.760 is a pathology that is already being detected in many people, in women and 1374 02:05:25.840 --> 02:05:31.880 also in men. Even I have a friend who has fibromyalgia. And then 1375 02:05:32.760 --> 02:05:39.119 we talked about arthritis, that there' s that variant that you' ve 1376 02:05:39.119 --> 02:05:43.079 explained as well. And then the osteoarthritis as such, which has a more 1377 02:05:43.560 --> 02:05:47.920 degenerative connotation, and we talked about but all this. We talked about pain, 1378 02:05:48.760 --> 02:05:57.359 all that, of course, palliative is the enalgesic anti- inflammatory, 1379 02:05:59.159 --> 02:06:04.000 but clear in his with his mail and is regular with his corresponding gastric protector. 1380 02:06:04.159 --> 02:06:10.840 But, but, of course, all of this too cannot be spent 1381 02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:16.239 all of life like this because it turns out that, obviously, there is 1382 02:06:16.359 --> 02:06:19.720 also a wear of the mucosa and of the stomach. And all that, 1383 02:06:20.039 --> 02:06:26.600 then the pain problem. There are some other formulas to attack him. Well, 1384 02:06:26.760 --> 02:06:30.479 this situation is always dear Julio. A comprehensive study of the patient should 1385 02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:35.680 be conducted and treatment should be given. Before commenting, we were saying that 1386 02:06:35.800 --> 02:06:42.279 we do not, unfortunately, have a simple treatment, although this began to 1387 02:06:42.279 --> 02:06:46.720 be so. An attempt was made to seek treatment for these so- called 1388 02:06:47.000 --> 02:06:51.600 rheumatic pains, because that word, for it is a word let' s 1389 02:06:51.600 --> 02:06:57.199 say encompassing. Yes, but within that group of rheumatic entities, as we 1390 02:06:57.319 --> 02:07:01.359 see, there are variants and in fact we have all three variants, but 1391 02:07:01.479 --> 02:07:06.520 they are not unique. There are other variants that we could be talking about. 1392 02:07:08.159 --> 02:07:13.800 So, because of the complexity and the patient' s discomfort, we 1393 02:07:13.960 --> 02:07:19.159 have to find the most appropriate solution to your personal case, to your particular 1394 02:07:19.159 --> 02:07:24.680 case. Now there are very mild situations that the patient goes to the family 1395 02:07:24.680 --> 02:07:28.279 doctor, tells him what happens to him. The doctor gives them painkillers, 1396 02:07:29.039 --> 02:07:33.159 takes them for eight or ten fortnights. The problem is solved and to something 1397 02:07:33.279 --> 02:07:38.479 else it goes no further. The problem is when this, when you stop 1398 02:07:38.600 --> 02:07:44.399 treatment, the pain reappears or reappears, you receive it over time. And 1399 02:07:44.479 --> 02:07:48.000 that pain, then, is appearing again and again. And also, because 1400 02:07:48.159 --> 02:07:54.039 sometimes over time it not only reappears, but increases, sharpened and becomes chronic 1401 02:07:54.199 --> 02:08:01.680 bearable. So there, well, sometimes we get like this, but extreme 1402 02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:05.399 to have to use the morfin Apaches to every few cases, to see it 1403 02:08:05.439 --> 02:08:09.680 is not advisable and data we are telling ourselves. Perhaps it is the recommendation 1404 02:08:09.760 --> 02:08:15.119 God frees me, for that also has some price for the organism. But 1405 02:08:15.119 --> 02:08:20.560 in some cases, even in very extreme situations, because you know that there 1406 02:08:20.640 --> 02:08:24.680 are specialized doctors, specialized in the treatment of pain, the famous pain clinics, 1407 02:08:26.479 --> 02:08:31.560 where we refer to patients those patients that we can say are impossible and 1408 02:08:31.640 --> 02:08:35.880 that we have to use drugs of these more aggressive and therefore also more controlled 1409 02:08:35.880 --> 02:08:41.880 by exits, so that these fellow specialists treat these few patients. When you 1410 02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:48.119 see extremes to see, there we are internists, there we are rheumatologists, 1411 02:08:48.720 --> 02:08:52.079 there we are family doctors, there we are are neopaths, there we are 1412 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:58.720 a lot of people who can collaborate and give good results to the santament, 1413 02:08:58.960 --> 02:09:01.399 but it is not always easy and does not feel use treatment to everyone the 1414 02:09:01.399 --> 02:09:05.079 same. That would be great, of course, because of the complexity it 1415 02:09:05.159 --> 02:09:09.960 has good, but the case obviously, I know that formulas are being sought 1416 02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:13.760 to alleviate the pain at all costs. But one and it' s the 1417 02:09:13.880 --> 02:09:16.640 concluding question today that gives it a twist. Let' s say, well, 1418 02:09:16.960 --> 02:09:20.479 this is a more epic question, not if you want. For some 1419 02:09:20.600 --> 02:09:28.319 it may seem like what I am going to ask now, but not the 1420 02:09:28.439 --> 02:09:31.960 original cause of pain, of the pain of humanity, of the pain of 1421 02:09:31.960 --> 02:09:37.279 humanity. Of course you say well, this is a utopia, because a 1422 02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:41.880 world without pain is good, it is desirable. There will be a world 1423 02:09:41.960 --> 02:09:46.760 without pain, even if some do not want to believe it, but where 1424 02:09:46.880 --> 02:09:50.600 is the original cause of pain, of pain in humanity, all kinds of 1425 02:09:50.600 --> 02:09:54.920 pain. Well, the information we have I' d tell you is reliable 1426 02:09:54.039 --> 02:09:58.119 and comprehensive. We' re not out of light. There in the world 1427 02:09:58.199 --> 02:10:05.640 let' s say we move. We know that God creates man and woman 1428 02:10:05.680 --> 02:10:11.960 and puts them in an idyllic place to live. God gives orders to some 1429 02:10:13.159 --> 02:10:18.800 commandments of what they should do, how they should live and that man and 1430 02:10:18.880 --> 02:10:26.119 that woman, because they are living in a closed area called paradise. We 1431 02:10:26.279 --> 02:10:31.159 do not know the dimension of that paradise, but the word already evokes a 1432 02:10:31.279 --> 02:10:37.600 place of peace, a place of joy, a beautiful place, a place 1433 02:10:37.600 --> 02:10:41.000 of rest, a place that, besides there was communion between the human being 1434 02:10:41.000 --> 02:10:45.439 and God. God is going to visit the human being people, what a 1435 02:10:45.479 --> 02:10:48.640 wonderful thing. It is God who seeks man. It' s God who 1436 02:10:48.760 --> 02:10:52.159 lives in that paradise. Okay, but there' s a time when there 1437 02:10:52.359 --> 02:10:58.720 ' s a breakup. Man does something terrible, it' s a rupture 1438 02:11:00.119 --> 02:11:05.079 of relationship with God. Man and his disobedience break that relationship with God and 1439 02:11:05.199 --> 02:11:09.000 then look at the curious, dear Julius. Man is expelled from paradise, 1440 02:11:09.520 --> 02:11:13.199 that is, he is no longer in the idyllic place, there is no 1441 02:11:13.239 --> 02:11:16.399 longer the temperature, there is no longer the moisture of food, there is 1442 02:11:16.439 --> 02:11:22.359 no rest, there is no rest that God had originally created for man, 1443 02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:26.720 for man, man and woman. In that place he had created, let 1444 02:11:26.279 --> 02:11:31.880 us say, it is a different place, it is no longer the ideal 1445 02:11:31.880 --> 02:11:37.079 place. And there they begin to appear, because the problems spoken poetically in 1446 02:11:37.199 --> 02:11:41.079 that place that is no longer paradise. They saw the first leaf fall from 1447 02:11:41.159 --> 02:11:50.439 a tree and surely saw the first dead living being. And all that good 1448 02:11:50.119 --> 02:11:56.359 evolution. From Adam and Eve to us we have evolved, not in the 1449 02:11:56.399 --> 02:12:01.239 evolutionary sense of evolution, but in the sense of Judaism. As human beings 1450 02:12:01.640 --> 02:12:07.479 at the level of knowledge. And well, there he who ridicules this story 1451 02:12:07.560 --> 02:12:13.560 and says that a myth and even people of high rank within the Christian ideology 1452 02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:20.239 say that that was a myth look. I don' t think so. 1453 02:12:20.720 --> 02:12:26.640 I believe that God really gave origin to the human being. And what' 1454 02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:31.159 s more, I believe in the reality that this man and this first woman 1455 02:12:33.479 --> 02:12:37.760 would really exist and that this man and this first woman after that situation, 1456 02:12:37.319 --> 02:12:41.479 they had children and these children spread out. And we see in chapter nine 1457 02:12:41.600 --> 02:12:46.920 of Genesis that we are told of there are seventy names, seventy peoples, 1458 02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:50.600 seventy families that are going to populate the earth and then there is a process 1459 02:12:50.640 --> 02:12:56.640 of adaptation to see that that is all human beings. If you live several 1460 02:12:56.720 --> 02:13:01.039 generations in a place where the sun is intense. Therefore, towards the center 1461 02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:07.439 of the planet it will receive greater solar radiation and will develop darker pigmentation, 1462 02:13:07.800 --> 02:13:13.760 because it is necessary to protect itself from solar rays. And after generations, 1463 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:16.920 the skin of that group is going to be much darker than those who migrated 1464 02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:22.399 to the north, to the higher ends, where there is less light and 1465 02:13:22.560 --> 02:13:30.159 those people are whiter. It' s just that a population of whites, 1466 02:13:30.560 --> 02:13:33.359 once blacks, would have spontaneously emerged here. We all have a common origin 1467 02:13:33.439 --> 02:13:37.000 in Adam and Eve We do not all have a common origin there. That 1468 02:13:37.119 --> 02:13:41.920 ' s where the problem began, in man' s disobedience. But you 1469 02:13:41.920 --> 02:13:45.840 ' ll say, well now we already know that. We' re already 1470 02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:50.079 making it right. It' s just a lie. Human beings continue to 1471 02:13:50.199 --> 02:13:54.359 violate God’ s laws day by day. Moreover, many of the diseases 1472 02:13:54.439 --> 02:14:00.520 from which our society is sometimes generated by our habits, customs and by our 1473 02:14:00.560 --> 02:14:09.279 stubbornness, our or stubbornness, our stubbornness, because people know it is bad 1474 02:14:09.399 --> 02:14:16.399 to smoke, but smoke. People know it' s bad in certain practices, 1475 02:14:16.039 --> 02:14:22.520 but they practice them. They know it' s wrong to take certain 1476 02:14:22.520 --> 02:14:26.079 foods too much, but they take them and many times this is done consciously. 1477 02:14:26.359 --> 02:14:30.800 Well, people say good about something I have to die. And indeed, 1478 02:14:31.119 --> 02:14:35.520 in this world, as long as God does not fix it, there 1479 02:14:35.800 --> 02:14:39.840 is death as a fruit to that original sin that not only committed the snow, 1480 02:14:39.960 --> 02:14:43.359 but we have all committed not because the apostle Paul tells us that all 1481 02:14:43.800 --> 02:14:46.960 have sinned and are restored to the glory of God. Not only Adam Nieva, 1482 02:14:48.359 --> 02:14:52.680 but you and the whole world We are destitute of God' s glory, 1483 02:14:54.840 --> 02:14:58.920 but glory to God, who, in the very act of man' 1484 02:14:58.039 --> 02:15:03.640 s sin, generated a solution to the great sickness that leads us to death, 1485 02:15:03.760 --> 02:15:09.279 which leads us to destruction. And this medicine is in Christ Jesus, 1486 02:15:09.720 --> 02:15:13.720 because there is no other name under heaven, given men in whom we can 1487 02:15:13.800 --> 02:15:20.159 be saved. He is the savior, he is the regenerator, he is 1488 02:15:20.159 --> 02:15:24.920 the sanctifier, he is the healer, he is the purifier, he is 1489 02:15:24.079 --> 02:15:28.039 the one who carried all that sin on his back and nailed him to the 1490 02:15:28.039 --> 02:15:33.880 cross. Precisely because of all this guilt of all of us and because of 1491 02:15:33.000 --> 02:15:37.920 that gaze of faith in that Saviour who is on the cross with his arms 1492 02:15:37.960 --> 02:15:43.319 stretched out, embracing everyone who wants to go is that we have salvation by 1493 02:15:43.479 --> 02:15:46.239 our merits, neither weeds, nor saints, nor popes, nor shepherds, 1494 02:15:46.520 --> 02:15:52.680 nor bishops, nor relics, nor images. No one can mediate between God 1495 02:15:52.800 --> 02:16:00.000 and men, because only Christ has that function of vicar, of pontiff, 1496 02:16:00.119 --> 02:16:05.960 which is the true pontiff who makes a bridge between God and us, and 1497 02:16:05.199 --> 02:16:11.199 only by going to him will we have a solution to this problem. Even 1498 02:16:11.800 --> 02:16:18.039 though physical illness progresses and even if we reach that sad moment of death that 1499 02:16:18.199 --> 02:16:20.760 you know is only a step into life, where Quisto is waiting for us 1500 02:16:20.800 --> 02:16:26.640 with open times and already the last thing I want to tell you in this 1501 02:16:26.760 --> 02:16:33.840 line is that you know seen wine seven hundred years before it came. Isaiah 1502 02:16:33.959 --> 02:16:39.760 prophesied it. There were other Old Testament prophecies perfectly fulfilled in the first century. 1503 02:16:39.520 --> 02:16:43.440 But we are waiting for Christ again on earth and it smells to me 1504 02:16:43.520 --> 02:16:46.639 that it won' t take long to understand. I have the thing that 1505 02:16:46.719 --> 02:16:52.879 I can be the generation that sees Jesus coming back with power to this world 1506 02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:58.159 to rule. And then there will be no death, no sickness, no 1507 02:16:58.280 --> 02:17:01.959 wars, no pain, in saying, all that pain caused by man' 1508 02:17:03.079 --> 02:17:09.079 s sin. Christ will have taken it away so that he can live as 1509 02:17:09.159 --> 02:17:13.760 originally lived the human being, as God created it, to live with him 1510 02:17:13.760 --> 02:17:18.120 in paradise. Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is the antidote to the 1511 02:17:18.239 --> 02:17:22.760 pain of the soul, the pain of the human soul, the pain of 1512 02:17:22.840 --> 02:17:28.840 the deepest human being. And we' ve talked about one thing, and 1513 02:17:28.079 --> 02:17:35.559 that thing needs reservations or medical interventions, and this thing really needs a look. 1514 02:17:35.719 --> 02:17:39.319 You can go directly to the God of heaven, from here we say 1515 02:17:39.440 --> 02:17:43.360 it over and over again and find medicine for the soul in Jesus Christ, 1516 02:17:43.760 --> 02:17:48.920 the Lord Jesus Christ, the Savior of our souls, when we go to 1517 02:17:48.920 --> 02:17:52.239 him. Honestly, Doctor Rocca, he' s wanted a friend, we 1518 02:17:52.280 --> 02:17:56.280 ' re looking forward to more, but you' re making us think and 1519 02:17:56.280 --> 02:18:00.440 we' re giving you. Thanks again for being with us, thanks to 1520 02:18:00.479 --> 02:18:05.120 you for this opportunity and also good my coffee. But don' t solve 1521 02:18:05.120 --> 02:18:09.840 the problem. The doctors do what we can. Yes, yes, Enrique, 1522 02:18:09.959 --> 02:18:13.360 you have patience with us, daughters we call clients we call you patient, 1523 02:18:15.079 --> 02:18:18.799 patients. The patience you have to have with us so that we can 1524 02:18:18.840 --> 02:18:22.239 help the intention that is there. Uh, yeah, sometimes, unfortunately, 1525 02:18:22.120 --> 02:18:26.719 and we can' t do everything we want for people. But the Lord 1526 02:18:26.799 --> 02:18:31.559 is going to have a definitive solution. It' s totally safe, totally 1527 02:18:31.760 --> 02:18:35.079 fealted from July. That' s how it is, my dear friend, 1528 02:18:35.639 --> 02:18:37.799 I' m sending you a very affectionate hug. I also embrace for you 1529 02:18:37.879 --> 02:18:41.840 a very affectionate greeting. It was Audien, and look at the train of 1530 02:18:52.360 --> 02:19:35.040 my life. I have placed my house on the rock that is Christ Jesus, 1531 02:19:39.479 --> 02:19:54.520 and nothing, nothing can part me from his great love and proclaim and 1532 02:19:56.520 --> 02:20:07.639 proclaim over and over again? And proclaim and proclaim over and over again and 1533 02:20:07.799 --> 02:20:16.799 me in my house? Will we serve the king of Gloria and I in 1534 02:20:16.799 --> 02:20:50.319 my house, serve Loya and I in my house, serve Gloria? I 1535 02:20:50.440 --> 02:21:05.399 have put my house on the rock is that Jesus no one will be able 1536 02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:22.879 to part me the leftover and proclaim and proclaim as over and over and over 1537 02:21:24.040 --> 02:21:31.360 and proclaim or over and over and me in my house? Will we see 1538 02:21:31.600 --> 02:21:43.920 Glora' s net and me in my house, we go around Gloria and 1539 02:21:43.200 --> 02:22:15.040 I at home will serve the king of glory I my house? Will we 1540 02:22:15.239 --> 02:22:26.559 serve Gloria and I in my house? He saw me get out of my 1541 02:22:26.799 --> 02:22:54.559 glory I saw my house. We will not serve to watch that others serve 1542 02:22:54.719 --> 02:23:00.719 other gods. I have laid my foundation that I and my house will serve 1543 02:23:00.920 --> 02:23:05.639 the king of kings and, lord of lords, the only one that is 1544 02:23:05.799 --> 02:23:18.280 a sign of all glory if you want to visit our website www. The 1545 02:23:18.399 --> 02:23:33.239 train of life, the train of life. Port or me or hello, 1546 02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:37.159 friends and friends of good news TV very welcome. In a contemporary way, 1547 02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:43.280 Wave Peace Radio seeks to draw bridges of dialogue with the societies of its CD 1548 02:23:43.399 --> 02:23:48.959 in Barcelona, the message of Jesus permeates the programming always with relevance for the 1549 02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:52.520 day- to- day people of the 21st century. Today we approach there 1550 02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:58.440 to get to know this evangelical Christian broadcaster better. But before we see our 1551 02:23:58.520 --> 02:24:03.159 report, we want to encourage you first on our social networks and answer this 1552 02:24:03.159 --> 02:24:05.879 question. What kind of content are you looking for in the media and why? 1553 02:24:07.399 --> 02:24:09.680 Well, let' s go see our report on Onda Paz Radio. 1554 02:24:16.719 --> 02:24:20.879 Gentlemen, we' re on the move. This unstoppable trains like life itself, 1555 02:24:22.200 --> 02:24:28.280 a living parable. Barcelona is one of the most cosmopolitan places in the 1556 02:24:28.280 --> 02:24:33.760 world. Situated next to the Mediterranean, the city of Barcelona is full of 1557 02:24:33.920 --> 02:24:43.799 scents to love its unique architecture, its picturesque streets and its busy walks of 1558 02:24:43.879 --> 02:24:46.360 multicultural activity in this enclave are born in the year two thousand. Onda Paz 1559 02:24:46.479 --> 02:24:52.760 Radio a radio proposal inspired by a Christian worldview of life for the near future. 1560 02:24:52.440 --> 02:24:58.600 Search aired in Girona, Tarragona and read under the name Ona pau Catalunya. 1561 02:24:58.760 --> 02:25:01.680 The radio can make it easy to move. I don' t have 1562 02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:05.920 to be in one place watching TV but I can move from one place to 1563 02:25:05.920 --> 02:25:09.399 another. That name Onda. Onda is very characteristic in different emitters. In 1564 02:25:09.440 --> 02:25:16.520 Catalonia, then I thought that in radio space there was no name like Onda 1565 02:25:16.760 --> 02:25:20.200 Paz, for example, and I thought we were characterized by a message of 1566 02:25:20.200 --> 02:25:26.040 peaceel. Gospel is the Gospel of peace for all men. And then, 1567 02:25:26.120 --> 02:25:28.920 then, from there, because it occurred to me and we gave it legal 1568 02:25:30.000 --> 02:25:33.079 personality, our loggers counted life in different key. So, through this different 1569 02:25:33.159 --> 02:25:39.319 key, of telling things, what we do the most is interviews, actual 1570 02:25:39.319 --> 02:25:50.719 meetings. Current interviews, current debates. We like to be a lot booming 1571 02:25:50.879 --> 02:25:54.680 in what' s happening in society. We also played a lot of family 1572 02:25:54.680 --> 02:26:00.920 issues. We do a lot of family interviews. We want to put a 1573 02:26:01.000 --> 02:26:03.440 lot of value into the family issue. The last years of ninety- nine 1574 02:26:03.440 --> 02:26:07.239 to ninety- nine I worked in a third and remember when I told my 1575 02:26:07.280 --> 02:26:11.000 Director General that I was leaving, that I knew that I was an evangelical 1576 02:26:11.120 --> 02:26:16.879 pastor and that I was also a social communicator. The reporter told him but 1577 02:26:16.959 --> 02:26:20.479 you can' t combine him to be here and be there I say no. 1578 02:26:20.040 --> 02:26:24.840 I' m not going to devote my entire effort to driving a radio 1579 02:26:24.840 --> 02:26:30.559 project. Someone has said that radio is the most effective antidepressant, because there 1580 02:26:30.879 --> 02:26:39.840 are many people alone. Julio Pérez' s experience in commercial radio and his 1581 02:26:39.920 --> 02:26:45.239 pastoral vocation led him to launch the El Tren de la Vida programme a few 1582 02:26:45.319 --> 02:26:50.079 years earlier, which he still occupies today. A fundamental place in the programming 1583 02:26:50.920 --> 02:26:56.040 the start of today' s magazín is spread on evangelical stations throughout Spain. 1584 02:26:56.639 --> 02:27:01.479 Coinciding with the Barcelona Olympic Games. Interviews with several Christian elite athletes would give 1585 02:27:01.600 --> 02:27:07.719 him a vital boost today. I believe that the train of life was an 1586 02:27:07.760 --> 02:27:13.559 innovative project in its time in our Christian evangelical environment, because the format of 1587 02:27:13.680 --> 02:27:20.440 the interview and also a vagrancy as such, with different sections, also interpreting 1588 02:27:20.479 --> 02:27:24.360 the life in key of a journey, a train trip that is very descriptive 1589 02:27:24.440 --> 02:27:30.319 of human life. We' re all traveling somewhere, too. When Jesus 1590 02:27:30.399 --> 02:27:33.639 began his ministry, there was no media, as we know them today. 1591 02:27:33.799 --> 02:27:37.799 There was no written press, there was no television, there was no radio, 1592 02:27:39.920 --> 02:27:43.040 but it was not a problem for him to know how to convey his 1593 02:27:43.040 --> 02:27:52.639 message. We were used to a very religious format. As for the good 1594 02:27:54.120 --> 02:27:58.639 one, I would say the rhetoric, but I noticed that there was a 1595 02:27:58.719 --> 02:28:03.600 disconnect with the outside world. I wanted to talk about things in life and 1596 02:28:03.920 --> 02:28:05.760 through that I also wanted to talk about faith, spirituality, the blind self, 1597 02:28:07.079 --> 02:28:11.280 human spirituality. And then, well, little by little we were articulating 1598 02:28:11.639 --> 02:28:16.680 took shape and, in fact, we have seen that model, that format, 1599 02:28:16.280 --> 02:28:22.159 has been transferred to all the new generation stations. The good news is 1600 02:28:22.239 --> 02:28:26.959 that Jesus stands to die on the Cross, to redeem our moral failure that 1601 02:28:26.000 --> 02:28:31.200 is called sin. The Gospel, therefore, is transformative and at the same 1602 02:28:31.319 --> 02:28:39.200 time revolutionary. The Gospel is timeless. Also, this message from The Good 1603 02:28:39.360 --> 02:28:54.280 News is the one we need today p a mix Ugens than They are written 1604 02:28:54.280 --> 02:29:00.079 program. Here is a pau cataluña in the almost quarter of a century in 1605 02:29:00.159 --> 02:29:03.680 peace and in the previous stage with the initial magazín. This project on the 1606 02:29:03.799 --> 02:29:09.559 waves has received thousands of responses from listeners. One of them is that of 1607 02:29:09.719 --> 02:29:13.920 the prestigious painter Sergi Barnills, who, from the intimacy of his professional study, 1608 02:29:16.319 --> 02:29:20.520 listened to the train of life, the content helped him discover how much 1609 02:29:20.639 --> 02:29:24.920 he needed to have a personal relationship with God. Now, Sergi is also 1610 02:29:24.079 --> 02:29:30.760 participating with her own program on the discovery of a square. There he saw 1611 02:29:31.680 --> 02:29:35.840 that they were people who carried it inside they felt it. It wasn' 1612 02:29:35.959 --> 02:29:41.159 t just word, it was external, it was something lived in Catalan. 1613 02:29:41.239 --> 02:29:46.600 We say biscut, but they really did have it in DNA. Then I 1614 02:29:46.120 --> 02:29:52.079 saw that it was authentic and I was excited and started to treat Jesus through 1615 02:29:52.120 --> 02:29:56.600 the Bible reading, all covert and I didn' t miss a single program. 1616 02:29:58.239 --> 02:30:03.319 And peace comes to the heart of a person who, perhaps, is 1617 02:30:03.440 --> 02:30:11.280 driving and actually tunes in peace and can change his life. Onda peace also 1618 02:30:11.440 --> 02:30:16.719 arrives in the room, room of a hospital, of a person who is 1619 02:30:16.760 --> 02:30:22.360 going through some situation of illness And, perhaps, hearing a preaching, hearing 1620 02:30:22.360 --> 02:30:28.760 a praise, hearing some message, changes his life. And truly that is 1621 02:30:28.879 --> 02:30:33.680 what encourages us to follow. And in Yuke to the first chapter, that 1622 02:30:33.799 --> 02:30:39.280 ends up inspired by YouTube. I say if you gave me a month of 1623 02:30:39.440 --> 02:30:45.479 spiritual oxygen that I had lost for many years and it was an existential vacuum 1624 02:30:46.440 --> 02:30:50.440 and a need for Jesus, but neither did I understand what happened to me 1625 02:30:50.520 --> 02:30:54.479 no, but it is that now I have seen it clear. This was 1626 02:30:54.479 --> 02:30:58.040 in the year ninety- seven. It' s been many years and I 1627 02:30:58.120 --> 02:31:07.079 keep soaking up the word of God, the prayer and I keep listening to 1628 02:31:07.120 --> 02:31:16.319 the radio, because good helps me to charge the batteries. Despite the difficulties 1629 02:31:16.360 --> 02:31:22.239 along the way. This radio station, which reaches the entire Metropolitan Area of 1630 02:31:22.319 --> 02:31:28.600 Barcelona, works with a deep vocation of service to society. Engaged with the 1631 02:31:28.719 --> 02:31:33.280 truth tell life in a different key through a message of peace and hope. 1632 02:31:35.799 --> 02:31:41.120 But not all are words, but they have a solidarity platform, the website. 1633 02:31:43.479 --> 02:31:50.760 There we have a section where people can ask for some reason for prayer 1634 02:31:50.799 --> 02:31:56.840 so that we are praying for them. And then also a section where the 1635 02:31:56.000 --> 02:32:01.760 person can write, they can ask for any kind of information, any kind 1636 02:32:03.399 --> 02:32:07.639 of advice and we also products that we offer you. We have a good 1637 02:32:07.799 --> 02:32:13.200 relationship with the various public administrations, with the Greek Directorate of Telecommunications. In 1638 02:32:13.360 --> 02:32:18.719 the last time or the possibility of making awards was not a bankruptcy, but 1639 02:32:18.799 --> 02:32:24.920 a law that is still prevalent of bestowals or denials, and apparently we were 1640 02:32:24.959 --> 02:32:28.879 to be granted the license. But no, no, not most of my 1641 02:32:28.000 --> 02:32:33.360 hours, even secular friends that we formed the association of many years in the 1642 02:32:33.440 --> 02:32:43.079 city, were almost all, almost all denied, because they are capable. 1643 02:32:43.639 --> 02:32:46.360 We intend it to be the radio of all the partners. When I say 1644 02:32:46.399 --> 02:32:50.239 to all Christians, I mean the Orthodox sphere, the Catholic sphere and the 1645 02:32:50.319 --> 02:32:56.399 Protestant sphere. In addition, we have a vocation to bring good news to 1646 02:32:56.520 --> 02:33:01.520 all those who tune our station without knowing each other. The great challenge is 1647 02:33:01.680 --> 02:33:05.399 to have God’ s Kingdom among us now carrying the same message that Jesus 1648 02:33:05.520 --> 02:33:09.840 brought in his day. For example, in Catalonia we no longer speak of 1649 02:33:09.920 --> 02:33:15.000 the media empire of copying. That' s already there for me. I 1650 02:33:15.079 --> 02:33:20.280 ' m not talking about the 200 Maria radio stations everywhere. I am talking 1651 02:33:20.399 --> 02:33:24.399 about the ten commercial radio stations Estel in Catalonia, which are Catholic with daily 1652 02:33:24.520 --> 02:33:30.840 Mass morning and afternoon and which are very good stations and very professional. But 1653 02:33:31.440 --> 02:33:37.600 the democratically comparative grievance is brutal. We don' t seem to have to 1654 02:33:37.600 --> 02:33:41.879 ask LIMOSNITA to see Yes, please, we' re not on the looserope. 1655 02:33:43.760 --> 02:33:50.079 In addition, it exchanges content with different Protestant media and connects directly every 1656 02:33:50.200 --> 02:33:54.399 day with the news media of Catalonia Radio. On the other hand, Onda 1657 02:33:54.920 --> 02:34:00.840 Paz works thanks to the collaboration of many people. Its non- profit face 1658 02:34:00.920 --> 02:34:05.520 has led the station to create a network of friends willing to support it in 1659 02:34:05.600 --> 02:34:13.200 various ways, not just financially. They are the volunteers, they are the 1660 02:34:13.280 --> 02:34:18.280 basis of the project, because without them there are many things that we could 1661 02:34:18.280 --> 02:34:22.399 not do. They' re in charge, many times of editing parts we 1662 02:34:22.440 --> 02:34:30.760 didn' t get calls to. Get in touch with the people who help 1663 02:34:30.840 --> 02:34:37.000 us with partner collaborators, both by mailing and the whole messaging theme. When 1664 02:34:37.000 --> 02:34:43.360 there' s fund raising, volunteers are everything and it doesn' t work 1665 02:34:43.399 --> 02:34:46.840 here on what radio is, it' s the accounting part, the administrative 1666 02:34:46.840 --> 02:34:52.520 part. Also with partner partners. I make the remittances, I prepare the 1667 02:34:52.520 --> 02:34:58.520 papers. Then I collaborate with the director of the station. I' m 1668 02:34:58.559 --> 02:35:01.040 also happy to come here about Proue, which is called written. We' 1669 02:35:01.120 --> 02:35:07.639 re talking about painting, but the center is always the master. Art is 1670 02:35:07.719 --> 02:35:15.520 wonderful and thanks to the Lord that we can tell others about himself through art. 1671 02:35:22.760 --> 02:35:28.079 I also had a radio program of prayer intercession and it was very good. 1672 02:35:28.559 --> 02:35:33.079 Also in that sense, because there were many needs in which people could 1673 02:35:33.159 --> 02:35:37.680 open and pray and talk to Dad, with God, but also talk to 1674 02:35:37.879 --> 02:35:43.639 us. And what we intend is that the city of Spain and all the 1675 02:35:43.680 --> 02:35:46.200 people who listen to us on the Internet, know the love of God, 1676 02:35:46.440 --> 02:35:52.399 know the person of Jesus through how we tell things from the wave of peace, 1677 02:35:52.879 --> 02:36:03.440 from the speaker. How interesting to see how peace is to connect the 1678 02:36:03.600 --> 02:36:09.079 message of the Gospel with the situations of the day- to- day this 1679 02:36:09.159 --> 02:36:13.719 ban What difference it makes to have this approach in a medium, because I 1680 02:36:15.239 --> 02:36:16.760 really think they hit the spot when it comes to communicating. In the Bible 1681 02:36:16.879 --> 02:36:22.559 we see how Jesus, while here on earth, was talking about eternal spiritual 1682 02:36:22.600 --> 02:36:28.840 realities to people, but always taking into account their temporal earthly context in which 1683 02:36:30.079 --> 02:36:35.000 they lived. The truth is that Jesus made different allusions to means such as 1684 02:36:35.040 --> 02:36:37.840 agriculture, to the farmer in the villages where he was going to preach. 1685 02:36:39.280 --> 02:36:43.040 He also taught people to see and attend to the needs of those most in 1686 02:36:43.159 --> 02:36:48.239 need, but also, for example, to relate to the authorities what the 1687 02:36:48.280 --> 02:36:52.559 Roman empire was like at that time, and all while addressing the great need 1688 02:36:54.200 --> 02:36:58.920 of the heart of the human being, look what he says I kill eighteen 1689 02:36:58.000 --> 02:37:01.440 eleven, the son of man. Speaking of himself, Jesus has come to 1690 02:37:01.639 --> 02:37:09.440 save what had been lost. It is clear that Jesus was concerned about the 1691 02:37:09.520 --> 02:37:13.319 physical and material questions of people, but at the same time he also brought 1692 02:37:13.520 --> 02:37:18.799 a message of forgiveness and salvation that he himself was going to materialize, dying 1693 02:37:18.879 --> 02:37:24.319 on the cross for all of us. Yes, Benny brought the possibility of 1694 02:37:24.440 --> 02:37:28.079 having peace with God, even though we had all decided to live in our 1695 02:37:28.120 --> 02:37:33.959 own way without respecting his perfect will, even though that has generated terrible consequences 1696 02:37:35.120 --> 02:37:41.079 in our world asphyxiated with injustices, despite our own mistakes, Jesus died and 1697 02:37:41.079 --> 02:37:48.239 rose to fill us with peace. He brings peace in a way that nothing 1698 02:37:48.520 --> 02:37:52.120 and no one can bring into our lives. That peace with God inundates the 1699 02:37:52.200 --> 02:37:56.639 lives of his followers, not only in good times, but also in dealing 1700 02:37:56.719 --> 02:38:03.319 with the greatest difficulties and problems that come across in times of darkness. You 1701 02:38:03.399 --> 02:38:07.680 already know Jesus, the prince of peace. You hear his voice today and 1702 02:38:07.760 --> 02:38:13.760 you will never regret it before we leave. We want to encourage you to 1703 02:38:13.040 --> 02:38:18.079 read the Bible and thanks to the work of the evangelical churches and the generosity 1704 02:38:18.159 --> 02:38:22.000 of Bible society in Spain, we can give you this Bible. If you 1705 02:38:22.120 --> 02:38:26.239 don' t have her on the phone yet. Nine, one, seven, 1706 02:38:26.360 --> 02:38:28.559 four, three, four, four, zero, zero, and we 1707 02:38:28.639 --> 02:38:33.280 ' ll make you free for those of us who are part of our friends 1708 02:38:33.280 --> 02:38:35.239 ' club. Let' s go around the book The Train of Life, 1709 02:38:37.000 --> 02:38:41.200 a book by Julio Pérez that comes to us thanks to its author. Thank 1710 02:38:41.280 --> 02:38:45.280 you so much for your attention and don' t forget, you' re 1711 02:38:45.280 --> 02:38:56.520 worth, so much for God. Four, The Train of Life, an 1712 02:38:56.319 --> 02:39:03.600 exciting journey along the routes of the Corazó, an unforgettable trip at the rate 1713 02:39:03.719 --> 02:39:24.959 of trem the evangelical churches a place of peace and friendship. You can freely 1714 02:39:26.040 --> 02:39:30.760 attend the nearest evangelical church in your neighborhood or your population. You' ll 1715 02:39:30.840 --> 02:39:31.280 be very welcome.