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This is the downbeat on ninety seven
to one, The Freak. The return

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of Billboard Bayless nine o'clock. We'll
have to do Billboard Baylists on either the

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last day or the first day of
the month, and it's going to be

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the last day of the month this
time, on this leap day to twenty

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nine. Billboard Bayless returns at three
o'clock. Yep. We're going to look

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at the hits of today compared with
the hits in Luca's birth year nineteen ninety

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nine, Luca's birth year. We're
going to see how these songs compare and

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contrast. What if Luca was born
on the twenty ninth, he'd really be

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Don't they say that you can't have
you can't put February twenty ninth on a

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birth certificate. They say that I've
heard that, and someone texts that in

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like your berertificate, driver's license,
don't say February twenty ninth, it says,

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leaves that to be true because the
parents choose either Mark twenty eighth or

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February twenty eighth or March first.
That's bs oh, and there's all sext

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Jordan and find out yeah, yeah, she's up taking care of her.

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Oh and she's been up off and
on all night long. But there,

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I mean, Luca could have I
mean, there's so we know he's a

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magic boy. And what if everybody
actually born in the twenty ninth had a

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little just a five percent of magic. You just have to figure out what

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discipline it goes to. You know, humans don't figure it out because you're

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just never exposed to that. But
Lucas was magic for basketball. That's all

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real for basketball. Gosh, maybe
everyone has one little piece of magic in

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him, just the odds that you
figure out what it is. I know

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what mine is. I don't know. Could be this stuff you gotta think

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about. Kevo I think about all
the time, as I can't stop thinking

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about it. Is how I spend
my days. Things Morning news at eight

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thirty. He's gonna have tons of
stuff for us, always do because he

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always does. But coming up right
now, we have a collar on the

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line here. This is Shelby,
formerly a Fortworth order short where you're hanging

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out at now, Shelby. I've
known Shelby for a few years now,

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but he has experience in the area
of where these Texas wildfires are. Yeah,

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these catastrophic wildfires in the Texas Panhandle
and now Oklahoma have tried more than

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one million acres and they have this
thing siphoned off in a one, two,

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three, four, five different fires
as that's what they're calling it.

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They all have cool names. The
Smokehouse Creek fire is the big one,

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eight hundred and fifty thousand acres in
Texas, thirty one thousand over thirty one

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thousand in Oklahoma, and they say
that's three percent contained. And then the

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Windy Deuce Fire, the Grapevine Creek
Fire, the Magenta Fire, and the

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six eight seven Reamer Fire. They're
all in the same family of fire.

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Containment numbers are strange. Amount of
acreage burned is strange. We talked a

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lot about it yesterday, but as
with most things we do, we are

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merely speculating. So now KT has
acquired us someone who's had two but one

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had to drop out because he got
called into work the seven am hour because

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it's the life they live. But
we're joined now by Shelby on the free

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cutline. Good morning, Shelby,
how are you all good? Hi Shelby,

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what do we call you? Officer
Shelby or now just regular Shelby regular.

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Okay, well, thank you regular
Shelby for jumping on with us.

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Yeah. Are you out of the
fire game now, Yes, I am,

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But currently I did work up in
the Panhandle the city called Border,

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which is actually where this all around
this where it started and the smokehouse Creek

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fire started. Yeah, they're dealing
with they're right now, they're going through

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it. So just for our listeners
context, where were you stationed when you

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were in your normal full time work
the city of Border? Oh you were

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there. I thought you just the
one for the Lake Lake Meredith National Bark

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as well with them as well.
All right, did you deal obvious?

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I mean I could, I could
whip you with just regular ask of fireman

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questions, but obviously we're focused on
this uh massive fire that is that is

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torching the Panhandle in parts of Oklahoma. Did what I guess percentage of your

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year or career is dealt with wire
wildfires versus day to day uh fireman activity.

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Yeah, so it's basically two different
deals. You know with firefighters.

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You know, we deal with a
lot of different fires. You have your

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house fires, your car fires,
your uh your wildfires. How do you

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fight all those different fires? Are
a lot of different ways, you know.

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With with the house, obviously,
it's it's there, it's gonna stay

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there. It's it it. Uh, you're gonna go fight it and put

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it out. With with wildfires,
it's it's a whole nother ballgame. It's

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you can throw as many resources as
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its staged now. I think last
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a million acres. Now there's I
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You can throw a lot of these
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at these things this point, it's
up to mother nature. You can try

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to get ahead of it and make
a fire line and uh take away it's

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fuel to where it doesn't it doesn't
potentially jump that that fire line. But

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the thing with these things is is
the Panhandle. What they're dealing with is

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uh strong, strong winds. It's
the Panhandle, very windy, rolling hills,

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dry, you know, that's uh, that's what they're dealing with.

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These things are moving, you know, way faster than anybody can get ahead

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of and so you know they're they
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you know, aircraft everything. You
know, it's just taking off on them

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them. So, yeah, that's
a little bit about how what you can

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do. What what what are the
strategies involved when you are called to a

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wildfire situation? Maybe in order you
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a fire line. It seems to
me like the most important thing, or

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the most difficult thing, would be
getting water to those remote locations, because

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it's not like you've got fire hydrants
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resource. You've got to bring that
stuff to the fire What what are what

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strategies are employed, what methodologies are
employed to to try to contain these things,

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and kind of maybe explain what you
mean by by fire line. It's

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a broad question, but kind of
give us so there's a lot of different

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ways you can fight these things.
Like I said, by air, you

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have fire crews that will come out
and dig line. Basically, what we're

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doing and when we create a fire
line is we're getting down to the surface

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below the grass to dirt, and
we want to create a dirt line,

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uh so where whenever the fire comes
to it, it has nothing else to

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burn. Crazy enough, is it
sounds you actually fight fire with fire in

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wildfires? You said you can't get
much water. Uh. These people,

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you know, helicopters and planes,
they'll they'll go to lakes and you know,

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pick up water where they can.
But yes, it's crazy as it

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sounds. You're actually sometimes uh starting
a fire to backburn what we call backburning.

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Uh. Basically when we do that
is we're burning the grass to backfill

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into taking away uh, that fire's
potential fuel, because that's when you can

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actually contain, right, that's when
you can actually contain and control, whereas

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the wildfire is just this uncontrollable thing. You you burned down a strip to

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stop it from having fuel, right, Yes, sir. And it's kind

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of funny. You know, I've
been on fire's wildfire's particular up in the

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pandemic, and people will call the
coughs on us because they think that we're

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actually starting a fire and helping it. But you know we're we're we're actually

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doing our job, you know,
taking away it's fuel. But yes,

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they you know, we have you
know, flares that we throw in,

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drip torches that drip out fire.
You know, all sorts of stuff we're

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pouring out. Bulldozers will bring out
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So Shelby. This is Shelby who
was a former He's fought in wildfires

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before, has experience in that same
area up in the Panhandle where the smoke

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House Creek fire is now the largest
fire in the United States history. Yeah,

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that's been confirmed in the last couple
of hours of see people report that

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the second biggest and I mean the
largest in Texas history, the second largest

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wildfire in US history. Cheese because
of it, and I believe they as

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of last night, actually this morning, I'm getting reports that it is snowing

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up there. Okay, So that's
that's what I was gonna ask you,

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because you were just talking about fighting
fire with fire. It's like they're getting

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some precipitation some I ain't a winter
mix because it's gets cold up there too.

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It's this new front came in an
Amarillo at least is getting I don't

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know if it's gonna be enough though, and that like northeastern part of the

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Texas Panhandle there before you get into
Oklahoma. But I know that Amarillo Era

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is about to get doused with some
rain, and that helps, I would

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imagine, right obviously, Yes,
yeah, that it definitely helps their cause.

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You know, but these guys.
Yeah, they're they're out there.

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You know. I'm sure some of
those guys are are working at least that

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minimum twenty twenty three hour shifts,
maybe even more, just just staying out

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there. So, yeah, they're
going to be cold and today. But

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hopefully it helps them out. It
certainly doesn't, you know it it'll it'll

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help them out hopefully. So with
that also, we I'm just telling this

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in that this guy confirmed by a
news station thirty minutes ago as an eighty

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three year old woman. Yeah,
that more confirmed death and they think over

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five hundred thousand cattle. Probably there's
people doubts on stories if someone lost their

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house of thirty eight years. I
mean, it is really a big deal.

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The fact that's the largest wildfire in
US history. Now, now,

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I guess say that's possible because you
are out there in that area where there

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ain't much and it's so expansive too. Yeah, yeah, yes, sir.

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And actually with with the City of
Border when I hired on with them,

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you know, it was a big
part to be with the wildfires.

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You know, that was a big, big part because it's such a huge

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part in that area for wildfires.
We have a program to where we went

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around the city and did prescribe burns, you know, to do mitigation to

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prevent this sort of thing. This
is why Borger is you know, it's

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not having the same disaster as these
other cities is because you know, we

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keep we kept it maintained to where
it wouldn't get out of control. The

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biggest thing is is uh, you
know, people not having ladder fuels around

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their house, keeping your grass shure, you know, all these little things

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can help. Not having a lot
of clutter, not having a lot of

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you know, consumables that that can
catch because like I said, once it,

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once it goes, we can try
to protect the house. But you

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know these flames, you know,
once once it's come at you, you

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know you can see you know,
fifteen to twenty foot flames coming at you

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and can't see nothing. And it
gets real real quick. And this is

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like I said before, these fires
with the wood driven, they can move

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so quick and it can turn it
can turn crazy real quick. This is

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Shelby who's got experience fighting wildfires now
in that area too. How do they

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investigate where this started? When the
grounds all torched, you know, looking

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for a cause? How do you
know how to investigators even get a start

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on you know, when it's time
to come to that. I have a

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little bit of knowledge of that.
That is more so with you know,

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fire investigators. They come out and
they do their their deal. They will

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find the investigation. This could happen
a lot of different ways. It could

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happen from a person throwing a cigarette
out of a call window. It could

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happen from a chain, from a
dragging the roadway. That's all it takes

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is something like that. And firework, whatever, dry lightning strike, you

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know, all sorts of stuff.
It's obviously it's too early to tell,

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well, you know, what happened
with this, but uh yeah, I'm

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sure they'll get out and do their
investigation and figure out what what cause was

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me This is fascinating. Shelby,
thanks for joining us and giving us some

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answers. We're just obviously guessing.
I think I have a two part question

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because I asked is yesterday and maybe
a dumb guy question. But we're talking

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over a million acres right now,
and the report yesterday said every minute it's

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burning one hundred and fifty football fields
per minute. Is that what it was?

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Yes? One hundred and Like I
can't even think of what that looks

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like in the speed of which that's
moving. Is there any scenario where if

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the weather doesn't help you, no
rain, there's just no recourse. I

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mean, right now they said there's
this three percent contained. I mean,

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if you don't get enough firemen to
converge on this, is there any scenario

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where something burns a third of the
state half of Oklahoma it just never stops.

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I know that's sort of dramatic and
feels like a movie, but this

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seems like the one thing that if
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stop. Yeah, like I said
earlier, you can throw as many resources

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as you want with it, but
unless mother nature helps you out, all

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you're going to be doing is is
pretty much chasing it. You know,

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with what you just said, you
know it's moving half or a football field

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a minute. You know you can't
get in front of that, and you

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know going and chasing it is dangerous. You know, how we do this

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is very organized in in in dells, uh divisions all that, and everybody's

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trying to coordinate together. You know, where to go, what to do?

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Where where do we think that you
know this this wind's gonna take us.

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Is it going to give us a
northwest wind? Is it gonna change

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here in an hour and give us
the southwest wind? You know, with

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wildfire, wildfire fighting, you you
do a lot of weather classes with it

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because you're constantly, every every hour, every couple of hours, you're checking

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the weather and you're you're going,
okay, these are my conditions. Uh,

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you know, my relative humanity,
my wind direction. All this plays

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a vital rule in in this,
in this getting it contained. So yeah,

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I was curious about how frantic the
organization process was. Who's in charge

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when calls are coming out to anyone
to help? Do you know would there

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be d f W firemen on their
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far? He yes, Sarah,
yes, yes. What your state as

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is a oh I can't remember task
force? And so the governor will deploy

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uh you know firefighters. I've been
deployed personally to other states. Uh.

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I've been to California, you know, even in Oklahoma, Nevada. You

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know, they will declare a state
of emergency, and you know, we

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we can possibly even potentially see other
you know, firefighters from other states coming

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in to help with this. So
you're gonna have to have, you know,

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changes with personnel. You're gonna have
to have, you know, something

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like I said, these guys are
probably you know, doing easily twenty twenty

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three, twenty four, you know
or more our shifts, you know,

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just constantly just going out there doing
my ups doing, you know, because

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that's the last thing you want is
an inber being picked up and being sent

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down the road and starting another one. You know, these embers and the

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right conditions, with the right wind, could could take an ember miles and

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miles away and put it and put
it in another start another fire. So

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I think that's the reason why we
had it such a big on the smokehouse

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fire. It is probably from that
situation. Fascinating. Hopefully they get some

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fascinating precipitation up there. Shelby,
thanks for taking the time this morning and

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kind of filling us in on this
stuff that we you don't know nothing about

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because we don't you know, do
that. So thanks man. Yeah,

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well, thank you for having me
call in. I appreciate it. All

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right, let's go get some beer
sometime. Take care, Shelby, Yes,

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sir, we'll see you. Thanks
for having me. Thanks regular Shelby

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Bright five years let's go. That's
awesome. Yeah, Oh that's a smart

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and incredibly interesting get man. I
could have beat him down for a long

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time with that, because it's still
I don't have all that much clarity,

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and just the madness of frantically driving
six hours straight toward this thing, and

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where are we going and how are
we going to help and not get in

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front of each other, and then
the danger he and those firefighters put themselves

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in. It's something moving so fast, so how do you stay safe yet

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fight? It feels like a video
game, like just imagining on a map

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where you would go to try to
put out and it's like, no,

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it's real life. It's taking people's
houses and unfortunately, you know, woman's

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life, people and a lot of
land. I think your question too about

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how that could go, like the
specific uh specifties of where this was,

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where it was going in the northeast
into Oklahoma, where as we know,

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I mean, the middle of America
is pretty vulnerable right there too. One

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of you brought up to the aspect
of what this can do to the agriculture

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situation up there in the future,
because you don't we don't know how many

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cattle have been lost. You don't
know how much land has just been destroyed.

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You know that maybe our nation depends
on for cotton. I think there's

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a lot of cotton out there that
you could see. Who knows a rise

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in the cost of garments in the
next year or two, who knows,

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But it's a it's a domino effect
on that stuff. But you're right,

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we could have had him on for
two hours, dude, because look that

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we had him on because it's specific
to big, huge news. The biggest

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story in Texas is happening right now. We want an expert to speak to

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it. But don't you want to
know, Hey, what's going on in

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that fire station? Right And what
do you guys doing all day? Have

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you ever worked a I think they're
on like two days on, three days

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off or something like that, something
like that. There will have to be

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one hundred percent available for a twenty
four hour stretch and they get two off.

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Have you ever worked a shift where
you literally had the phone didn't ring?

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You know, are you guys really
cooking all of your own meals?

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Like I have a million questions for
firefighters. I'm kind of obsessed and you

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men of softball in this country,
firefighters alone a softball. Yeah, those

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guns and hoses games aren't going to
play themselves. And Dalmatians. You don't

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see any dalmatians anymore, right,
good stuff for the time. Stuff Danny,

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what's up the death of a comedic
legend? And why did this Jimmy

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John's employee throw his customers sandwich in
the trash