1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:13,320 in the UK and around the world. Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,199 the Paranormal UK Radio Network. We take you now through Grover's Mill, New 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,679 Jersey. Thank the gentlemen. There's the car for us again out of the 5 00:00:23,679 --> 00:00:27,440 Wilmer's Farm, Grover's Mill, the Jerseys. That's the pist and myself made 6 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:31,160 the eleven miles and in ten minutes. Well, I don't know where it 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,359 begins. May for your word. Picture of a strange thing before my eyes, 8 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:37,799 like stumping out of a modern to radio knights. All right, Jess 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:43,079 got here. I haven't had a cashire look around yet. I guess that's 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,240 it. Yes, I guess that's the thing directly in front of me, 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:01:26,480 half buried in a vast fIF Hello. This is Nick Pope and you're listening 12 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:33,719 to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the UK's biggest paranormal network, and this 13 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:47,040 is Paranormal Dimensions with David Young. Hello, welcome to the show, my 14 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,560 first show on return from the United States for two weeks now. You may 15 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,079 recall if you've listened to the previous show that I did intend to meet with 16 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,359 Nancy Thamps, who is the guest on the show on the twenty seventh of 17 00:01:57,519 --> 00:02:01,680 May. I did report that when that show go went out that so hopefully 18 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,519 I would be meeting Nancy, and we did indeed meet, although it was 19 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:09,400 a very short meeting, it was an interesting chat we had. The strange 20 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:15,400 thing was that Nancy turned up at my hotel when I wasn't actually supposed to 21 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,400 be there. My wife and I we returned to the hotel and Nancy just 22 00:02:20,439 --> 00:02:23,879 happened to turn up at the same time. So I think there's something quite 23 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,879 psychic about Nancy. I did actually mention it to her at the time, 24 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:30,520 because we were actually intending to be out for all day long, but we 25 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,000 actually turned up in the car pot both at the same time, strangely. 26 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,960 Anyway, apart from that, the holiday went quite well. We did Memphis 27 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,080 obviously, Graceland, we were both Elvist fans. We traveled down to Tupelo, 28 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,599 it was his birthplace. From there we went right across Alabama to Chattanooga 29 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,199 and also to Gatlinburg, which is basically in the Smoky Mountains. So it 30 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,599 was a great tour. Although my wife wasn't too fond of the road trips, 31 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,840 but the temperatures were hot, mostly around about nine ninety seven I think 32 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,319 was the hottest. Anyway, we're back to chilly Old England now and it 33 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,919 has been quite cold, I must say, considering it's dune. But we 34 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,960 shall carry on and hopefully it will get warm up for this summer. So 35 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,800 there you go, right, So onto the guests for this show. My 36 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:22,439 guest is Constance Victoria Breaks, and we will be talking about Salctic history and 37 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,479 it's extraterrestrial connection. So this is an extra show again, which I do 38 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:30,319 try to bring. I've got quite a few extra shows lining up actually over 39 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:36,439 the next few months. So it's my great pleasure to welcome Constance Victoria Breaks 40 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:39,360 to the show. Hi. Constance, nice to walking into the show. 41 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:44,120 Thank you, Thanks hello to you, and thanks for having me. David. 42 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:46,800 Oh, I'm very pleased to walking into the show. I know you've 43 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,520 done these types of things quite a few times before. I hope you don't 44 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,000 get fed up with them. I don't know, I'm getting a little tired, 45 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,039 but I love it. I do love it. Yeah, I know, 46 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,319 obviously you're it's probably the same similar information out every time, but there's 47 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,520 always going to be somebody out there that has not heard it, especially maybe 48 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:12,919 on this network as well, which we've got a very wide network. But 49 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,759 I'm very intrigued about it. I think it's your most recent book as well, 50 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:21,600 isn't it The Earth Schalectic History? And it's extraterrestrial connection? Yes, 51 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:28,199 that's correct. So how do you see the Earth when it's extraterrestrial connection? 52 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,040 Because it's the extraterrestrial connection. It's quite important, there, isn't it. 53 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:39,000 It's so important? David. Yeah. So the reason that I wrote the 54 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,519 book, if I can get into that, is because of, you know, 55 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:47,160 two reasons. I have a huge interest and whether or not we are 56 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,480 alone in the universe, and if we are not, then who and what 57 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:57,160 may be out there. That's what prompted my writing and my research many many 58 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,000 years ago. They started, you know, like over thirty years ago, 59 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:04,560 go, I was researching this subject. And as of late in my life, 60 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,560 I mean, you know, life continues on and I always through writing 61 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,759 and metaphysics and spirituality, but this was always my passion. So as i've 62 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,920 you know, engaged in this work, I've had people come to me with 63 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:24,120 questions. They want to understand. People want to understand what's going on in 64 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:30,600 our skies. Right. More and more people David with cameras are recording UFOs 65 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:38,240 right and left. Some of them have recorded beings, strange beings that you 66 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,480 know, we don't know where they came from or what they are. Some 67 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:45,680 of them may be extraterrustrials. But so people have the question, and I 68 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,600 decided that we needed some kind of book that went from took them from the 69 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:59,879 beginning of human history through the centuries until present time, and look at the 70 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:06,720 tales and the stories and true accounts of our connections and our visitations with extraterrestrials 71 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:14,360 on planet Earth. So do you subscribe to the Erful decons series about well 72 00:06:14,399 --> 00:06:18,360 not on the erful Deicons, ancient Aliens, et cetera. Yes, So 73 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:26,680 I'm a big ancient aliens or ancient astronauts proponent. Frankly speaking, I don't 74 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:36,240 believe that we just started being visited by extraterrestrials. People believe that because the 75 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:42,639 UFO phenomenon, which also has always been there, but because it was stepped 76 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,480 up in the nineteen forties. It is when we started seeing more and more 77 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,920 of these things. They believe that it started them, but that's not true. 78 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:59,759 Extraterrestrials and writings and drawings of what looks like flying saucers can be found 79 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,879 going back to at least the time of the beginning of our written history. 80 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:11,040 Okay, so it's not new. The question is how do we connect in 81 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:16,240 the past to the present and decide what's been going on. Some very interesting 82 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,720 stories out there that I got into in my book, especially also in the 83 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:28,399 Bible. There's many descriptions of a flying craft thought there. There's plenty of 84 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:32,240 descriptions. People thought, uh, these descriptions because they didn't have a better 85 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,000 word, so they wrote them down, and they call them angels, all 86 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:40,319 right, but you know, I'm the most The most famous case is that 87 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:45,959 of Ezekiel. Right. Ezekiel is well known to have seen what they called 88 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:49,879 an angel with several eyes spinning right, and you think, oh, that 89 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:57,839 doesn't make sense, will yeah? And also the birth of Jesus with the 90 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:03,279 three wives men following at flowing in the I mean, obviously that's a it's 91 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:07,120 the description of a ufo, isn't it. That's a description of a ufo. 92 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:13,079 And it is a controversial subject when it comes to Jesus. Of course, 93 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,519 why would there have been Yeah, we don't want to upset anybody out 94 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,120 there, but of course, yeah, but so well, I was just 95 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,279 look at it logically, and is the way it's described. That's yeah. 96 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,879 If they were following something other than a star, I mean, you know 97 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,120 it obviously it wasn't a star. Stars are up above in the universe and 98 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:37,279 it's not so low that you can follow it, right, absolutely, Yeah, 99 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:43,919 it was definitely I think something else, but something that wanted people to 100 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:48,519 witness something positive. I'll leave it at that. Yeah, that's right. 101 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,320 And also we go way back before the Bible. In other religious books like 102 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:58,600 the Mahaparetta, I talk about flying vehicles and the aliens if you like, 103 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:03,360 as well, so if I may, I did talk about those in my 104 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,279 book, and it's one of the most fascinating, some of the most fascinating 105 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:13,080 research I've come across, because research, because not only do they talk about 106 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:20,399 flying ships, but they give detailed accounts of how they were made, the 107 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,879 details of the inside, the energy that they ran on. And it does 108 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,120 say that they flew from Earth to the moon and beyond, and that the 109 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:37,480 gods were on these things and sometimes humans. So for me, that just 110 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,279 tells us that in ancient times we not only had extraterrestrial visitors that was living 111 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,000 among us, teaching us, as so many cultures have said, but also 112 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:54,039 taking us to the stars into the moon way back then. I mean, 113 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,240 I haven't actually read your book here insensical, I must say, how do 114 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,919 I describe you saw that these craft? How are witchcraft? I'm sorry, 115 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,759 David, Well you said about they described the insides of these crafts in the 116 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:15,879 ancient you know, in the how did actually describe them? I can't give 117 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:20,519 it to you verbatim, but I can say that they were double and triple 118 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,200 tiered sometimes, all right, and they had different shapes. Some of them 119 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,559 were shaped like disc some of them a number of them were shaped like a 120 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:35,480 kind of a bell like shape, very very strange. Yeah, like three 121 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,919 tiered inside. You know you can. I mean, I've seen drawings and 122 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,480 people's depictions where you could see, you know, areas where they may have 123 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:48,320 flown the ship, et cetera, et cetera. But that's about as good 124 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,639 as I can get. Obviously, you didn't see it first head yourself, 125 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,000 right, right? Have you actually seen UFOs yourself? So you know, 126 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:05,120 interesting I I am not a UFO person, you know, going out looking 127 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:07,600 for them. I would like to see them more, and I do have 128 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,639 it on my list to get special lenses to go and watch. Right because 129 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:13,159 I live right by the ocean, I'm sure they're going to be out there, 130 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,399 but I don't usually go up by myself, and I don't have anyone 131 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,240 out there to go with me, right, I don't have people around me 132 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:26,159 that are UFO enthusiast. But to answer your question, when I was a 133 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,759 child, I tell this story honestly, David. I don't know if this 134 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:35,799 was a ship or not. The word UFO and I had the acronym UFO 135 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:41,440 unidentified flying object used to mean just that, an unidentified flying object. Now 136 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,279 when people say UFO, they're really meaning a ship, all right. But 137 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,000 when I was nine years old, I did see something. And I remember 138 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:52,080 looking at this thing thinking, you know, looking at it, thinking I 139 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,120 wonder if that's one of those things. And I was nine. I didn't 140 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,320 have the word for it. But the thing was hovering, it was uhun 141 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,279 it had lights going around it. And I mean, I've thought on and 142 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:09,159 off about this for for a long time. It wasn't a plane. It 143 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,240 wasn't a helicopter. It wasn't a good Year blimp, which is what we 144 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,799 have, you know in the US. I don't know what it was, 145 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,720 so I've always said, yeah, I saw UFO and it had you know, 146 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:22,559 these revolving lights. It was a UFO. I can't identify it, 147 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:24,159 right. So I did see that, and then you know, I have 148 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:28,840 this whole other side of me that if you know, metaphysical and i astro 149 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:35,600 travel and in the atmosphere. Ye oh, okay, all right, that's 150 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:41,720 great obviously. So when you were younger, you grew up in Virginia on 151 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:43,919 the staye because you live in l at the moment, Is this where you 152 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,759 saw the crost? Yeah? So I saw it in Alexandria, Virginia. 153 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:56,519 I lived fifteen minutes outside of Washington, DC. And I just wonder that 154 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:00,600 if there was some sort of connection that would have been in the very in 155 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:03,960 the early seventies that I saught, and I wonder if there was something going 156 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,399 on over there. You know, there was this whole scene with the White 157 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:09,120 House in the UFO was over it, and I don't know if there's any 158 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,720 connection, right, but that's where I was at the time, and you 159 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,120 know, it's a big military area. You know, there's Fort Belvoir there 160 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:26,679 and some other basis in the vicinity. Who knows if that was a UFO 161 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:31,039 visiting a base or something, or on the way or but it was just 162 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,159 really strange. I don't really know what to make of that. I'm still 163 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:41,240 trying to find information from that time period on what I may have seen. 164 00:13:41,799 --> 00:13:43,639 Of course, some of the UFOs have been seeing way back before that as 165 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:50,279 well. Anyway, do you believe that we've ever had any UFOs crash such 166 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:58,440 as Roswell and have we used alien technology in anything? Suddenly? Obviously your 167 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,679 opinion, I'm asking, right, Yeah, I like that, thank you. 168 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:07,240 So, you know, that Roswell account is really really interesting because you 169 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,679 know, I've gone over it, and I do believe there was a Roswell 170 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,559 crash, and I believe it was an et UFO a ship. I believe 171 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,240 it was a ship because when you read the account, you know, this 172 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,080 farmer who whatever that the man who owned the property, you know, he 173 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:31,440 said that he saw this thing, you know, strown all about. It 174 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,919 was in pieces all about his property, and he left it and he went 175 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,240 into town and it wasn't like today. You know, they had to kind 176 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,960 of you know, they didn't have like these, you know, iPhones and 177 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,200 stuff. He took his time getting there, and oh, there had been 178 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:54,039 a UFO sighting and by that was all over the radio at the time. 179 00:14:54,799 --> 00:15:00,200 And then he found this thing. So it was more than a coincidence my 180 00:15:00,279 --> 00:15:03,960 opinion, that they that people had seen UFOs and then he found this thing 181 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:05,799 crashed. Okay, now, oh, did he make it up? No, 182 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:07,879 he didn't make it up. He went to town and he went to 183 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:13,679 the sheriff sheriff's office, and they didn't believe them, but they sent investigators 184 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:16,000 and they found this thing. They found a lot of it, and then 185 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,080 you know, they decided, you know, maybe we shouldn't tell this. 186 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:22,200 So I believe they did try to cover up and call it, call it 187 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:28,159 a weather balloon, and a weather balloon would not have had that many pieces 188 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,519 that they found. I do believe that that did happen, But I don't 189 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,799 know why they want to cover that up still with all the information that has 190 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,840 come out today, to me, that is the least of their worry. 191 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:46,200 Yeah, and the Air Force did actually release that the UFO had queshed, 192 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:52,440 didn't they And then they's what's the general got ahold of those what's a cush 193 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,559 it? But obviously they must have thought it was more important than a bit 194 00:15:56,919 --> 00:16:00,320 because they sent out a falst amount of if you want to call them that, 195 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:07,480 to clean the area up. So there's obviously more to it than Yes, 196 00:16:07,679 --> 00:16:10,519 yes, it's more to it, and I uh, yeah, I 197 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:14,840 believe that there have been probably more than one, and I do believe that, 198 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,960 you know, it is being covered up. But you know, just 199 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:23,320 my opinion, I think that they obviously they know more, but maybe they 200 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,799 have something to do with that crash. Maybe they want to you know, 201 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,240 people are saying, oh, they're you know, looking at the technology and 202 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:34,519 all of that. You know, if you've got a government and they've got 203 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:41,759 crashed UFOs, they're not going to want to share it with the other governments 204 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:47,240 if they're trying to figure out the technology. So I don't necessarily think that 205 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,600 the government is trying to prevent us from knowing we're not alone in the universe 206 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:56,919 like other people think. Maybe they want to use that technology for something and 207 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,840 they're not sharing it with the world. Yeah. Absolutely, During the war, 208 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,200 we kept seeing things like the food fighters and the Russians, well not 209 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:12,079 the Russians, but the Germans thought we were putting out secrets weapons and we 210 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,880 thought the Germans were putting our secret weapons. So those food fighters, as 211 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,799 nobody's ever come up with an answer as to what they were. Have they 212 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,519 No, they haven't. But I tell you what, it kind of looked 213 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:26,200 like they were fighting on both sides for a while or something, just on 214 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,799 things. Yeah, refereeing things, right, But I have to tell you, 215 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,160 David, that wasn't the first time. Okay. So in my in 216 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:40,400 my research in history, you know, going back to medieval times and ancient 217 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:48,880 times, uh, there are reports of wars where where UFOs were coming between 218 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:55,960 armies and so each army, each army often thought that whomever they called God 219 00:17:56,839 --> 00:17:59,839 was on their side. They're all they're saying, oh a miracle, oh 220 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,640 arts here, he's trying to, you know, take our side, and 221 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,039 the others like, no, they're taking it, taking our site, whereas 222 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:11,279 actually they were trying probably to prevent us from killing each other. In fact, 223 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,279 in fact, I have one account in my book where UFO literally just 224 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,519 came down and got between came so close between the two armies that they stopped 225 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,720 as they were coming to war. I guess that's called there's a word for 226 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:27,240 the advancing. While they were advancing, it came between and they all got 227 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,319 scared and they went the other way and the UFO stopped them. All right, 228 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:37,559 that's just one account of this happening. So somebody out there is trying 229 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,400 to look out for humankind, even if we're not looking out for ourselves. 230 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,119 Yeah, that's I understand. I think in the American Civil War it was 231 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:51,279 it was a general. He met up with a UFO believe it landed, 232 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:55,200 and he was given a message to a cult. Think who it was there. 233 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,240 I don't know if it was Stumbul Jackson or someone like that, but 234 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:03,880 I can't think of either. Actually I can't remember. It was an event, 235 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:07,720 but I think it was documentary what it was. Now there's any way 236 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,599 you were mentioning that about during wars and things. Yeah, there's one account 237 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:18,960 that was amazing out of the medieval times where they had these priests in their 238 00:19:18,839 --> 00:19:26,400 their church area and they were having dinner and they were preparing for especially event 239 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,400 the next day, and they heard all of this clashing and smashing going on 240 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:34,160 and the building was shaking, the door open, and they ran out and 241 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,960 there's all these people looking up into the sky and what they basically saw were 242 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:47,240 lasers laser fighting and lights blinking, and they could hear even clashing. And 243 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:52,599 then at some point they heard the voice say the gods are leaving. And 244 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,119 I thought, because back then, let me just say that the the Romans, 245 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,680 and it was it was, this was in Rome, but the Romans 246 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:06,440 kept very meticulous records for us today as to what was happening, and those 247 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:10,920 records had to be vetted before anybody could even write in them. And so 248 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,400 thousands of people saw those things all over the place, and they were fighting 249 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,480 in the skies and they said the gods are leaving, and I thought, 250 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,759 wow, that sounds like sarcasm. It sounds like there was someone coming towards 251 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:26,160 Earth and someone else came and stopped them and got in a fight. All 252 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:30,119 right, is there's someone out there that wants to take over Earth? And 253 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:36,640 then we have stories of extraterrestrials being referred to as gods. So I'm just 254 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,720 wondering if these these beings that were here and coming towards Earth, you know, 255 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:47,839 were they posing as gods or superior beings during that time or planning to 256 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,640 Because they said that they heard this and they wrote it in the historical record, 257 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,160 the gods are leaving. And I said, oh, that sounds like 258 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,279 sarcasm to me. I mean, it didn't have to be. But you 259 00:20:57,319 --> 00:21:00,279 know, whoever it was, they didn't want them down here bothering us. 260 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:04,079 Very interesting stuff. He is very interesting. And you mentioned in the Romans 261 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,920 all the like to have a look in the Vatican myself, because I think 262 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:14,720 there's probably tons of information about UFOs and aliens within the Vatican, because there 263 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:18,079 are certain documents and books and god knows what else that they will not allow 264 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:26,319 people to see, fifty three miles of books and documents. I had to 265 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,720 repeat this to my husband the other night. He couldn't believe it. He's 266 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:33,240 like, what, And I said, it's true, and you don't know 267 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:37,480 what's in there. In fact, there was a researcher. I don't know 268 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,680 how this man got into the Vatican to do this, but he was given 269 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,960 entry, and I don't know if I don't think he was looking for this 270 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,039 stuff, he was looking for something else. But he did come across a 271 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:56,359 lot of information about UFOs and extraterrestrials, and he wasn't allowed to take anything 272 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,160 out of course, but he came back and he wrote it down. I 273 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,839 have that story in my book, and I find that fascinating because not only 274 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,240 does he did he find out, but who knows what else is in there? 275 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:14,000 See see David. I think that there was a time in our history 276 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:18,279 and human history where we had the answers, where we knew exactly our connection 277 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,759 with extraterrestrials. They lived among us, you know, walked among as, 278 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,839 taught at things, and then for whatever reason, they left. But I 279 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,480 think that there were documents and information, not necessarily within the Vatican, but 280 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:37,119 maybe some of it is. But I think maybe the Library of Alexandria may 281 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,920 have had a lot of information before it was burnt down. I think someone 282 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,759 knew and had that info. And I think that with us looking like we're 283 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:52,000 heading into an introduction with extraterrestrials, I bet there are ET's out there that 284 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:56,279 can tell us exactly what happened in our history. Yeah, I mean, 285 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,519 fifty three miles of it is actually mindful. Even a mile, even a 286 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:04,279 mile of documents would be mind boggling, But fifty three miles a bit is 287 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:10,359 crazy, you know, and you know you've got to ask the question why 288 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,680 they want to cover it up and why they want to keep it secret. 289 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,480 You know, it's uh, I mean talking about alien races. I mean, 290 00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:22,000 how many races do you think may well have visited this planet? Oh, 291 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:26,000 David, there are no you can I know, you've got no evidence 292 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:30,960 all or you can prove anything. Or I've heard that there are hundreds, 293 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,519 okay, if not more than that. But there's a lot that have come 294 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,400 and gone. And in fact, I am working on a book about it 295 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,240 and trying to just trying to come up with, you know, that number 296 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:45,799 and see where I get. Because I think it's important for us to look 297 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:51,640 at every race that we've ever heard of that has maybe have maybe have been 298 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,640 visiting us. All right, but yeah, hundreds, okay, if not 299 00:23:56,759 --> 00:24:02,279 more. And it's real interesting stuff. And if you look around today, 300 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:07,319 just a going back to the UFOs, there are so many differently shaped UFOs 301 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,319 out there, right, you can figure that they're not all coming from one 302 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,799 place. They're all different shapes and sizes and colors. And I believe they're 303 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:22,359 coming from different worlds. It's just that we are not frizy to the inside 304 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,880 information. But I think that we should open our minds, think outside of 305 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,559 the box and examine the information that we do have on UFOs and extraterrestrials. 306 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,799 I have some of it written down in this book already, but I'm working 307 00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:40,799 on even a greater detailed book because I tell you there's going to come a 308 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:48,000 time when we're going to want this information written down. I feel like in 309 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,519 one place, because you know, if something were to happen to goodness knows, 310 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,160 I don't know what they call it, the grid or the technology, 311 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,240 and we lose what we have and some catacalyst ma event, I think we 312 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:08,079 should have this knowledge that we researchers are gaining today written down and captain steared 313 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:15,559 offline because we may lose you know, you lose this and have visitations and 314 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720 not have any information and not having any knowledge. So anyway, I think 315 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:22,480 we should get all of this information out and down for people to you know, 316 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,559 to look at and see and kind of churn in their minds and and 317 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,599 and help us to figure out, you know, what's going on. Yeah, 318 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,640 I think it's a good idea because I can't think of a book that's 319 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:40,160 actually actually documented alien visits at all. When you hear of individual cases, 320 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,599 but not actually documented entire and the entire encyclopedia, if you like, of 321 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,079 alien ratios that are visited. And I think it would be a really good 322 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,319 idea. Yeah, you know, where we go with that, I don't 323 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,519 know. But how do you feel about disclosure? Do you feel do you 324 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:03,039 feel disclosure is coming slowly? Yeah? So, you know, I think 325 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,720 disclosure is coming. I think it's coming slowly, as you said, and 326 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:14,440 I think that it's something that is not completely in our hands. I think 327 00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:22,240 that the idea of it being disclosed that there are extrarestrial extraterrestrials here and have 328 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,119 always been goes back from the beginning of our creation. I think it was 329 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:34,440 always the plan for ets to have us to grow mature as a species and 330 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,559 then grow into the knowledge that we're not alone, all right, and in 331 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,880 baby steps and learning, and they're watching to see where we go with our 332 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:48,920 own world, in our own lives before they disclose all of that information. 333 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,640 Now the government disclosure, all right, that's that's another thing, all right. 334 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,480 They may not be disclosing because, like I said, maybe they've got 335 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,519 uhance technology from down crafts or our advanced technology given to them by ets that 336 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,559 visited them. Maybe they would like to use that for defense of somehow, 337 00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:14,200 because all of the governments are big on defense. So maybe they are holding 338 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:18,960 up the disclosure about down crafts. But if you're talking about disclosure about our 339 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,880 being visited and not alone, I think that might be in the ET's hands 340 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:30,039 because they have said that we are not fully ready, that they're getting us 341 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,599 ready, but we're not fully ready. And in fact, there was a 342 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,920 gentleman by the name of hal some As shed I hope. I don't know 343 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,759 how to pronounce his name, you know, I know I get bombarded at 344 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:49,359 some time with oh, you don't you're not say that right now. He 345 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:55,279 was at Israeli General that came out with book a few years ago, two 346 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,200 or three years ago, and do you remember that, And he said that 347 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,880 he was old and he had all of done everything he wanted and he worked 348 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:11,319 and I think worked. H yeah, I think it was hashome E s 349 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,039 hg Ds his last name. And he said we have people on Mars, 350 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:22,279 there are humans on Mars working with extraterrestrials, but that the extraterrestrial stated not 351 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:27,319 to tell us because we don't understand UFOs yet. We're not ready yet. 352 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:32,279 Even though he was you know, telling us and told said not to he 353 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,920 was telling and he named the Galactic Federation, which is a title I heard 354 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:44,559 thirty years ago. And so basically I'm trying to say that it could be 355 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:49,720 the extraterrestrials that are holding up all of the information of disclosure. They I 356 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:55,960 think have a timeline on when we will be allowed to know. Now, 357 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,720 there is a gentleman by the name of Alex Collier who says that he is 358 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:07,359 an Andromedon representative. He represents the Andromedin race of people out there, and 359 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,359 he says there's five of them on Earth. He's been around for years. 360 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,960 This man, he's fascinating to listen to listen to, and that the Andromedin's 361 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,680 told him that they might have to step up the timeline of us being informed 362 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,240 because of what we're doing with the Earth. So that's why I think disclosure 363 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:33,440 just may be in the ETS hands as to when we get to know things. 364 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000 And if I may just elaborate a little bit, David, I don't 365 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:45,559 not allow you to ask any So one of the ways that extraterrestrials are said 366 00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:52,240 to be educating us that they are out there is through our science fiction and 367 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:57,000 our social media and in books and things, but the science fiction and television 368 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:02,200 and movies is a way that they have been trying to reach us. There 369 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,839 is a gentleman by the name of Gene Roddenberry who started Star Trek right, 370 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,920 and as much as people may not want to hear that a serious topic like 371 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,519 this may have anything to do with science fiction, Gene Roddenberry is said to 372 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,519 have been sitting in on these channeling sessions with a woman who said she was 373 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:30,480 channeling extraterrestrials, and these extraterrestrials told her while he was there that they were 374 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:36,359 traveling on a ship in Earth's vicinity, that the crew was from different worlds, 375 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,839 and that they were working together in harmony and peace and traveling the galaxy. 376 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,759 Now does that not sound like Star Trek. And there's another there's a 377 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:52,000 rumor I cannot say who's I don't remember who said it, but it was 378 00:30:52,039 --> 00:31:02,039 interesting that the rumor that there was president that met with extraterrestrial the ets told 379 00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:08,359 them as part of the agreement that they wanted humanity to learn about them and 380 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,559 that that we would get to get to work on it. Part of me 381 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:18,079 for being a little distracted, Yeah, President Trum Truman. I don't know 382 00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:22,960 if it's Truman, but I do know that Eisenhower was I did said to 383 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,119 have met with extraterrestrials. I'm not sure if that was the same occasion or 384 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,720 if there has been more than one meeting with Eisenhower, but yeah, yeah, 385 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,039 there have been leaders that have met with with ets. I'm sure it's 386 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:42,359 not just the American government, and I am working on that getting more information. 387 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,960 No, I was actually going to ask you about some agents actually helping 388 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,279 us with with stuff, because we do hear about a lot about these underground 389 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:59,240 tunnels all over the place that are being kept secret that may well have a 390 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:05,079 life working with us or with the military on the ground. She believes that. 391 00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,240 I don't know if they're working with the military, to be honest with 392 00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:15,079 you, but I have heard that they are working with scientists, that they've 393 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:22,599 been trying to help prove our health, maybe upgrade humanity, working to get 394 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,119 rid of diseases, working to perhaps get rid of atomic weaponry somehow. I 395 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,200 don't know what the idea would be there. Oh, if you mean, 396 00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:37,240 have they been working with the military, I don't know about the tunnels, 397 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,839 but they have definitely been UFO seen around bases around the world in which they 398 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,440 have disarmed atomic weapons. All right, so yeah, I do believe they 399 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,200 are trying to help prevent us from killing ourselves. They said they won't. 400 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,079 They did tell Eisenhower, somebody tell Eisenhower or one of the presidents, and 401 00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,960 they're not going to allow us to kill all of the life on Earth. 402 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,160 And that's one of the reasons that the Andromedins told this gentleman named Alex Collier 403 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,519 that they would step in because, you know, they said that we have 404 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:13,960 a rippling effect. Our actions have rippling effects, especially with the atomic weaponry 405 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,759 throughout the galaxy. And then they're not going to allow us to kill all 406 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:21,839 of life on Earth. Now, some argue that one of the reasons they 407 00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:24,480 don't want us to kill all life is because they need some of the resources 408 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:30,720 on Earth. You know, there's some speculation that extraterrestrials need, you know, 409 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:35,119 some of the elements here on Earth, such as gold, and there 410 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,839 have been there have been ships seen removing water from lakes, et cetera. 411 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:45,240 Also, we are supposed to supposedly there are extra trusturals living here. So 412 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:50,240 they don't want their brothers and sisters that are on Earth to be hurt. 413 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,440 I mean, there's a number of reasons why they may be intervening here, 414 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:58,279 But as far as them being in the tunnels, I'm not sure what they're 415 00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,279 doing down there. A lot of this stuff is said to be going on 416 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:05,839 in Antarctica. I'm not an expert on that, but I will tell you, 417 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,079 David, one of the things that I covered in my book was that 418 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:17,039 there are tunnels inside of Earth, these huge cavities where extraterrestrials are thought to 419 00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:22,519 be living and working. And that's not even the part that's what we talked 420 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:24,559 about the hollow Earth. There are, like you know, I talk about 421 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:31,920 cities, extraterrestrials being down there are intraterrestrials being that may have started on Earth 422 00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:36,800 when humanity started on the surface, which still would kind of make them like 423 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,880 extraterrestrials to us. But I call them intraterrestrials because they have a whole way 424 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,239 of living and being. But that's still different then the question you asked me. 425 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:52,000 Yes, I do think there are eties on Earth working with scientists at 426 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:58,559 least for some reason. And interestingly enough, there's a gentleman by the name 427 00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,039 of Charles Hall. I don't know if you've heard of him. Charles Hall 428 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,719 said that he worked on a excuse me, on one of the bases here 429 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,840 in the US. He gave the name of the base, forgive me that 430 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,880 I don't remember the name. He's written several books and he said that he 431 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,480 worked with the Tall Whites. He gave the name of the base. He's 432 00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,840 given his name, has ranked all the information, all right, And he 433 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:30,280 taught described the Tall Whites as being this et race that was living here and 434 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,320 working with the military. Now to what in I don't know. I'm surprised 435 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,119 that if he hasn't been questioned that, you know, the government hasn't questioned 436 00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:45,559 him, because he has not been quiet about this old thing. You just 437 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,079 note that or shall have a look into that, definitely. So you do 438 00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:55,719 also mention, like you say you did mention it about the Antartica. How 439 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,039 do you look on the dimensional aspects of things? Do you do you look 440 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:07,360 at anything interdimensional that some of these beings may be coming through on interdimensional rather 441 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:15,039 than extraterrestful? Right, So yeah, I believe in both interdimensionals. I 442 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:22,480 definitely believe that we are crossing over sometimes into other dimensions, and especially with 443 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,360 gosh, especially with the creation of the atomic weapons, I think it may 444 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:34,079 have opened up some areas and things have come through from other realms that we 445 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,639 didn't know would. We didn't know what we were doing when we did that. 446 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,880 And yeah, I do believe that they are coming in from other dimensions 447 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,039 as well. There's a lot, there's a lot going on. I'll tell 448 00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:52,800 you a story. I have a book where this gentleman was doing his research 449 00:36:52,920 --> 00:37:00,440 on ghost and what he said was everything he's learned about ghost and looked like 450 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,079 most of what we're seeing our ghost at all. It looks like there are 451 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,239 beings coming in what he thinks from other dimensions, because when you hear things 452 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,000 like you hear about things like a ghost ship or you know. In one 453 00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:15,239 case he studied, there there was a forest and it sounded like there were 454 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,599 people having a party in pots banging. There are no no pot ghost pots 455 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,800 banging going on, but it looked like he thought that the dimensions were crossing 456 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,000 somehow. And also he got a call to come and investigate a family that 457 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:37,840 had moved into a home and in their basement they found two young children dressed 458 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,440 in these strange looking outfits. They were jumpsuits that looked like nothing they'd ever 459 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,400 imagine here on Earth. And the children were looking at them, they had 460 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,639 just moved into this house, were looking at them in fear, and they 461 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:53,360 were looking at the children in fear, thinking they were ghosts. And the 462 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,400 gentleman, the researcher, said, no, I think they were extradressorial beings 463 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,639 and we had somehow crossed over or they had come in so as far as 464 00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:07,000 the ets and far as far as the UFOs and some of the cryptis. 465 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,880 They could be from other dimensions that have found a way in here, and 466 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,400 that's why we can't find them. That's why we can't find Like with the 467 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,599 whole Sasquatch thing, they're saying, oh again, right, there's no bones. 468 00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:24,880 What are you talking about. It doesn't exist. They can't find anything. 469 00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:31,400 He's coming and going through a portal to another dimension. Quite possibly. 470 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:37,159 Now I fully agree with that. I was going to say to you also 471 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:44,719 that actually their concern about our use of nuclear weapons would have a vast effects 472 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,840 on them as well, because if we're if it's just a different dimension, 473 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,960 what we do would affect them as well. So that could be a concern 474 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:57,880 of h Yeah, it's the problem. And the thing is this, they 475 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,280 they are more educated about these things than we are. It seems we are 476 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,960 the ones who are in the dark about what we're doing, or I don't 477 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,239 believe they would be. You know, our scientists in our military would actually 478 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:15,280 be doing this if they believed it. You know, the extraterrestrials, some 479 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,440 of most of them are more advanced than us. Okay, so they're going 480 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,559 to be more knowledgeable about the damage that we can do. So I believe 481 00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:30,239 that we have extraterrestrials that are behind us in technology, that are just developing, 482 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,280 that are at our cave man age, so to speak. But I 483 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,480 believe also that we have extraterrestrials in are hundreds and or in thousands, millions 484 00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:44,840 and even billions of years in advance of us. So you know, they 485 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,719 know what could happen. And if we, you know, continue as we 486 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960 are on the planet with the weaponry and the way we're treating you know, 487 00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,920 the world and the violence, they know, and they're trying to wait until 488 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,119 we mature and grow. If not, then they're going to step in. 489 00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:06,960 And they told the uh Andromedon ambassador that there could be consequences for us if 490 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,320 we can't get our act together. Yeah. Sure. Another interesting book of 491 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,880 Bules which said, well, I think you've written a couple of't you mysteries 492 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,840 of the Moon? Yeah, which quite fascinates me quite a bit. That's 493 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,960 another one. I think that's most Could you tell us much about that? 494 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,480 Oh? Yeah? What? What? What discoveries did you make? You 495 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:36,159 know? Honestly, David, studying studying the Moon was fascinating for me because, 496 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,519 like most people, I grew up thinking that the Moon was a dead 497 00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:42,800 rock in the sky. There's nothing going on there. It's flat, it's 498 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,679 gray, it looks good in the sun's light. What I It came to 499 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:51,239 a shock to me to know that even before the astronauts went up, and 500 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,639 I know some people don't believe they did, but I do. I was 501 00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:59,440 going to ask you that, I'll but long before they went up, you 502 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,800 know, we had the orbiters going up and they were taking pictures. I 503 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:07,239 mean it was those probes took pictures and sent back structures on the Moon, 504 00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,400 and that was a huge to do. In the seventies and eighties when that 505 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,639 information came out, we had some fabulous researches back then Richard, Georgett Holgerlin, 506 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,719 Michael Bara who wrote books on it, and Georgia. Yeah. I 507 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,440 mean they did amazing research, but it didn't stop there. It has continued. 508 00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:35,119 So what I've found out is that along with those structures the Apollo astronauts 509 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:40,599 did every single mission that went up, they encountered extraterrestrials and I mean, 510 00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:45,559 not I should say UFOs, not extraterrestrials, UFOs, strange lights. They 511 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:51,880 all had some sort of odd experience while they were out there, which let 512 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,039 us know that we were being watched. From the time that we had the 513 00:41:55,159 --> 00:42:00,679 Gemini and Mercury missions here on Earth, those pilots were saying they were seeing 514 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:06,840 UFOs. Then we finally get out there and those astronauts are saying, you 515 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,840 know, there's there's UFOs. It just shows that we were being watched by 516 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,519 someone. Were we being watched because they didn't want us to know about the 517 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,880 structures on the Moon or any more than we had already discovered. But we 518 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,800 know they get out there and we discovered things like the Moon might be hollow. 519 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:30,280 You know how strange is that I thought the Moon had been you know, 520 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,079 captured in Earth's gravity. That's what I grew up thinking. And but 521 00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:38,840 no, all of the all of the tails are the what they thought was 522 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,760 scientific fact of how the Moon came to be. Turned out that they can't 523 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,280 prove any of it. And the thing may be hollow. It may be 524 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:53,440 a megastructure that was brought into Earth's vicinity, and the idea that it has 525 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:59,920 structures on it tells us that someone is on the moon. The structures didn't 526 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:04,119 bill themselves. So that's what I learned, that the Moon may be a 527 00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,519 megastructure or a spaceship that was brought in here. In fact, there were 528 00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:13,360 Russian scientists that said in the seventies, you know, we think that you 529 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,559 know, there was a general it's a generationalist ship with people, and it's 530 00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:20,360 got engines in it and all this, and it was sent across the universe 531 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:29,119 and placed here, and that that is the only logical thing to conclude when 532 00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:30,639 it comes to the Moon and where it came and how it came to be 533 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:37,000 there. It makes a ringing cell when it gets banged. It makes a 534 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,039 ringing ringing toad as well, didn't it, as I understand it, Well, 535 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:45,079 no, it didn't exactly sound like a bell. It reverberated like a 536 00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:52,039 bell. That's quite Yeah, that's fascinating, and that's you know this people 537 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:58,199 think that this was a conspiracy theory or a hoax. No, people didn't. 538 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,199 Somebody didn't make that up. Nessa's scientists came out when they went up 539 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000 there and this happened, and they said, well, you know, we 540 00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:07,000 don't really want to talk about it, elaborate on it, but you know, 541 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,400 it looks like it might be hollow because it shouldn't be doing that. 542 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,000 It shouldn't be you know, shouldn't be reverberating or ringing like a bell or 543 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,840 whatever. Shouldn't be doing that. That's what they said. That's how that 544 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,840 rumor got started. Yeah, because it shouldn't. There's something it looks like 545 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:29,039 going on with the moon, and there's something or someone in there. And 546 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:35,159 not only are they inside the moon, but those structures that the researchers found 547 00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:37,119 out those all those years ago, you know, those are on the surface, 548 00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:42,199 all right. And one of them had said like that it looked like 549 00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,039 there had been some kind of war up there, that it looks like some 550 00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:49,880 of the structures were just blown apart, which you know, which is where 551 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,679 I come in, all right, you know, studying trying to get to 552 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:58,159 the galactic history, It's like, Okay, if there looks like there was 553 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,920 a war on the Moon, then who were they warring with? If there's 554 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,159 someone there, who were they warring with? Were they warring with Earth? 555 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,679 Because you know, if you look at Earth, there were places where it 556 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:14,559 looks like atomic bombs hit long before we created the bomb, all right, 557 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,920 And then Mars they're talking about the same kind of effect on Mars. Were 558 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,480 the three of them fighting each other? Or were the three the Moon, 559 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:29,719 Mars, and Earth fighting a foe from out there? Right? Which is 560 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:37,000 what the war? Maybe that's where it came from. Yeah, who knows? 561 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,400 Who knows that? Well, Mars it's thought to have been a lot 562 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,719 a living, a vibrant place right with life, and I still think there's 563 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,119 life up there. Maybe they had the one side too, who knows because 564 00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:53,880 of the destruction, but yeah, what happened? What happened there that turns 565 00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:00,719 that thing into such a desert like environment? You know, we have we 566 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:07,360 have the history that you know, our ancestors flew to the universe and back 567 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:15,480 that we had the power to fly. If you go to Egypt in one 568 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:20,599 of the famous historical cities that I can't remember. But I mean we've all 569 00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,760 seen the right, the drawings of the airplane and what looks like a submarine 570 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,360 and a helicopter, all right, and not just Egypt, but around the 571 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:35,639 world. There are tales of beings from the stars that came and went on 572 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,880 ships, and so often the ships were described. They didn't just say these 573 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:49,519 beings came from the heavens with wings. They described their ships. So yeah, 574 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,360 yeah, Well, one thing that stands out with me with the Moon, 575 00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:57,639 many of the craters are around the around the Moon, don't you seem 576 00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,920 together there are certain depths, doesn't they just as if as if a meteor 577 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:06,320 is hitting the Moon and it's hitting a lot of metal metallically, Yeah, 578 00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,159 maybe it's a metal ball of some salt and it only goes down so far 579 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,719 because it seems to be there's no real deep Yeah, a lot We've got 580 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,719 the Grand Canyon and things like that, or very deep volcanoes. There doesn't 581 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,519 seem to be anything like that on the Moon, which seems that it's strange 582 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:27,920 to me. How do you feel about that? You know? They as 583 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,679 far as the uh, these craters you're talking about, they're all approximately two 584 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,119 and a half mile deep, although they can't be craggy inside, you know, 585 00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:43,199 they're all they're not necessarily smooth. They have some little crag craggy inside 586 00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:47,880 some of them. But yeah, so the power astronauts tried to drill into 587 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,159 and to the Moon and they hit metal and they couldn't they couldn't get in. 588 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:59,360 So basically that's strange. Right. So basically what the same scientists that 589 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:06,440 I mentioned earlier said that was is that from what it looks like the Moon 590 00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:13,440 had, the Moon has an incredibly hard hull and it was made from these 591 00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:19,239 elements according to the information brought back from the Pollo astronauts when they brought back 592 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,559 you know, some of the sandy stuff on the surface and dirt and all 593 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:27,000 of this stuff, and so there's it's made up of strange elements. And 594 00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:34,199 they think that whatever it's that it's it is a hard structure that was made 595 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:40,559 to tolerate radiation, you know, heat and and meteorites hitting it and bombarding, 596 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:46,199 bombarding it as it was coming across the universe for a long time, 597 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:53,159 and so they think that it was created to be a kind of protective, 598 00:48:53,679 --> 00:49:01,440 uh machine that if our scientists were to build a craft to be traveling throughout 599 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,239 the universe. And I guess maybe like star truck ship, you know, 600 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:14,280 it's made from something that could just the materials would protect whatever is inside of 601 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,719 it. I guess whatever, or the question is whatever or whoever is in 602 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719 there? What is in there that they would have to create a whole so 603 00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:29,360 hard as to protect them, but it is so valuable. Could it be 604 00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:32,880 a generation of extraterrestrials? And I know, I'm sorry, I didn't I 605 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,199 didn't say that quite so. Well, yeah, it looks like a protective, 606 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,400 protective thing. But here's a fun story. So I had talked about 607 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:51,280 Gene Roddenberry, right, and maybe Star Trek was inspired from him sitting in 608 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,079 on those channeling sessions. Well, in one of the shows, I believe 609 00:49:55,079 --> 00:50:01,320 it's titled the World the Sky, who I'm forgetting the name of it is, 610 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:07,519 Oh, the world is hollow and I have touched the sky all right 611 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:16,679 about It was about an asteroid that had people living inside of this asteroid. 612 00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:22,559 On the outside of the asteroid, it looked like a regular planetary body kind 613 00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:27,440 of thing or space like an irregular asteroid. In fact, in the show, 614 00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:31,400 the crew had to beam over to this asteroid thinking it was that an 615 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,440 asteroid. So when they got there, the first thing they see on the 616 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,840 asteroid was structures. Right then they had to go inside and they see that 617 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,559 there are people living inside this asteroid that was designed to look this way, 618 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:51,920 and it was sent across the universe. According to Jeane Roddenberry's story, it 619 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,119 was sent across the universe with these people living inside of it. It sounds 620 00:50:55,159 --> 00:51:01,440 almost exactly about the story of what we're understanding I think we are understanding might 621 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,800 be understanding about the Moon there it was, oh, because the other theory 622 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,880 is that the Moon was designed to look like a planetary body to maybe be 623 00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:19,440 camouflage from nefarious beings out there that might want to, you know, take 624 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,119 control of it once they knew it was a ship. Who knows. So 625 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:28,559 I just found it interesting that Roddenberry had a story that was put out there 626 00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:35,280 before, long before the astronauts went to the Moon. That's almost identical, 627 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,159 almost giving it away. There's a lot of little secrets that keeps themselves here. 628 00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:45,920 But now we must come off the extraterrestrial Moon and those everything else. 629 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:52,719 This took my actual travel because I know that's one of your other fascinating subjects. 630 00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:57,880 Yeah, and it fascinates me. Yeah, it fascinates me too, 631 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,639 David's I'm not one of those people who set out to practice this, all 632 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,679 right. So it's something that came up in my life when I was in 633 00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:15,679 my twenties and I had vaguely heard about astro travel. And the first time 634 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,519 that I recognized that I wasn't dreaming that I was traveling, it was because 635 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:23,679 I went to sleep. I was living single, I had my own apartment, 636 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,440 living sick note single, and I went to sleep one night and I 637 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:35,639 woke up above my apartment building. Wow. I lived in a high rise 638 00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:40,280 apartment building, and I lived over a famous bridge called the Woodrow Wilson Bridge 639 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,320 for anybody who might watch this, who knows the area, I don't know. 640 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:46,639 And I could see the cars moving on the bridge and I was in 641 00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:50,960 the sky. Wow. It was dark, it was night, but I 642 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,440 seemed to have had some sort of white glow around me. And I woke 643 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:59,559 up. It felt like, David, I had taken some sort of drugs, 644 00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,880 which I did, and I've never done drugs for drink, but like 645 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,400 you know, if you take coal medicine, you're kind of groggy, That's 646 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,320 what I felt. And I remember looking down and I started kind of floating 647 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,679 downward when I went to be over to look, and then I caught myself 648 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,039 and I was bobbing up and down, and I knew, I knew because 649 00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:20,440 I had heard of it. I knew I was out of my body. 650 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:28,480 And then I left and there is an area, a vague area that I 651 00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:31,760 don't remember what happened, but I ended up in a in a building somewhere, 652 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,719 and I believe it was a different dimensional dimension because I saw an animal 653 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,480 there that was not anything that we have, and it was floating, you 654 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,800 know when I went floating, well, when it moved, it was in 655 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,960 the air moving, and I remember I looked at this thing and I said, 656 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,199 I wonder if it can see me, because I know, I know 657 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,639 I'm not in the body, and it looked and then it came after me 658 00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:57,760 and I went running and I went flying through a wall. That was the 659 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,760 first time that I had what I call a conscious out of body experience. 660 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,880 And people will say, oh, no, no, no, that sounds 661 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,559 like a dream. You really have to go through it to understand that. 662 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,760 You think you're dreaming, but then you wake up and you're not in your 663 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,000 bed, You're somewhere else, all right. So I've had those, I've 664 00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:22,639 gone to other dimensions. One of them was where I saw a humanoid girl, 665 00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:29,840 but she had the face was a little different in here and again I 666 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,320 was watching her and I was thinking, God, can she see me? 667 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,960 She didn't seem to be able to see me at that point. But I 668 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,320 think one of my other interesting well, I've had a lot of them, 669 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:44,320 but this experience taught me something was I went to another dimension and the people 670 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:51,960 there knew that I was from somewhere else. So there are beings that know 671 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:58,800 they can leave their bodies and travel and return because they knew, and they 672 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,599 didn't want me to leave. I was trying to help them figure out something. 673 00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:05,320 I don't know what, but they were trying to hurry before I had 674 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,000 to leave. That taught me that there are beings out there that know we're 675 00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:13,159 just beginning to even You know, I can go next door and my neighbor 676 00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:15,559 will say, oh, I don't know what are you talking about. You 677 00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:20,480 can travel outside your your body, but I know there are beings outside this 678 00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:24,159 planet that knows how to do it and knows that you know, they can 679 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:30,440 do it. I wanted to tell you about the UFO in my astral experience. 680 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:35,719 So I had a toddler, my little boy at the time. He 681 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,440 was taking a nap. I decided to take a nap too, and I 682 00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:44,480 knew enough by then that you can be waking up in traveling and then you're 683 00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:49,039 just pulled right back into your body. Well, I went to sleep, 684 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,760 came out of the body, and found myself in the sky looking at this 685 00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:01,599 amazing ship. It was a bronze color and it shimmered, and it looked 686 00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:07,559 like something divine, something not like what we see in the pictures of UFOs 687 00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:13,199 and disc shaped things. This was beautiful and I was going towards it, 688 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,000 and I was probably going to go through that wall, the wall of it, 689 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,639 and I was thinking, oh, shoot, I hope I don't wake 690 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,039 up, because so often, you know, that's what would happen. I 691 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,880 hope the phone doesn't ring and I wake up. Well, guess what happened, 692 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,760 David. Sure enough, my husband called and I was pulled back, 693 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,400 snap back in and woke up. Okay, And I never got back there. 694 00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:37,719 But that was my second UFO that I saw, and I saw it 695 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:44,199 in the astral which tells me that there are invisible ships out there that we 696 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,199 cannot see. And not only that are their ships, but because we are 697 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,920 limited in these bodies, there is life around us on this planet, in 698 00:56:53,960 --> 00:57:00,719 the sky everywhere that we can't see. Yeah, it's been described as like 699 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:07,000 a vibration plane. Is it that we can only see a certain a certain 700 00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:09,679 plane within front of us, But it is everything they're going on around us 701 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:15,039 that's sort of different vibration that we can't see. Yeah, yes, it's 702 00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:19,840 it's just just amazing. So a lot of times when people are experiencing feeling 703 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,199 things touched them or sitting I've had what feels like someone's sitting on my bed 704 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,400 and it's really annoying. I mean, it doesn't happen much these days, 705 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,239 but in my life I've had things happen. It's not because it's a ghost. 706 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:36,559 Everything's not a ghost. It's because there's something or someone there that we 707 00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:39,960 can't see. And it's not necessarily scary. You know, everything is not 708 00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:45,760 evil, all right? Done that to us, isn't the Hollywood has done 709 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:52,599 that to us? Hollywood? Do you believe in ghosts anyway? It's just 710 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,719 so you know, I've grown to the point now, well, yes, 711 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,000 I do believe in ghost but I think that some like I said, there's 712 00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:09,480 more to it the story. Sometimes. For example, when my dad passed 713 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,920 away, he came back to let me know that, you know, he 714 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:19,119 was around, and I mean, they try to reach us from where they 715 00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:24,239 are, but somebody would call that a ghost. He literally took a chord, 716 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,719 a lamp chord was plugged into my wall. He ripped that thing out 717 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,199 because he couldn't get my attention any other way, apparently, so he went 718 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,960 did something drastic. Was Is he a ghost or is he a person living 719 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:44,360 in another It's just a description we use. I agree with you. Inside, 720 00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:46,519 No, I think they are somewhere living a life. I don't think 721 00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:52,000 that they are these woozy soul beings that came from us and they're just hanging 722 00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:55,400 out in the clouds somewhere or they're coming through. I think that they are 723 00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:00,920 living somewhere, right, So, but yes, I believe that they're there. 724 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,800 Yes, you can come and go and they can interact. I think 725 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,480 the important thing we get out of that is life after death, basically that 726 00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:09,639 we go somewhere else, you know, And I think that's I think to 727 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,519 most of us that's been proven beyond out anyway, now for a lot of 728 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:21,159 us, No, that's what I'm saying for most of us who have I 729 00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:23,119 mean, I've spoken to so many people now as you as you, as 730 00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:28,719 you no doubt have, and they're also much the same sort of story. 731 00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:34,400 And you know, and your your experiences fascinate me. You obviously do believe 732 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,519 in life after death, and that's all traffic. Do you believe in reincarnation 733 00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:42,400 as well? That we have the choice to come back. I do believe 734 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,519 we have the choice to come back. I mean, I've just heard too 735 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:49,679 many stories while we move on to I don't know. Yes, yeah, 736 00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,400 I think that we have the choice to come back. I think that we 737 00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:59,960 are strong, independent souls. And I use soul loosely because I don't know 738 01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:07,480 if we have the real word as to what that is. That's we really 739 01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:14,119 are something someone else, so much more than what we are when we're on 740 01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:17,480 Earth. So I would say, yes, we have that ability, and 741 01:00:17,519 --> 01:00:22,719 we have that choice to come back here or to go to another planet to 742 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,960 live, or to stay where we came from. That's how powerful we are. 743 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,840 However we started in the universe. We have choices of what to do 744 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,920 with our life, our soul's life. This is not all of it. 745 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:42,880 I don't have any any problem or any fear of dying, of dying would 746 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,000 come from you know, I have a fear of how I might go. 747 01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:52,760 But no, I do believe it's better there wherever that is, than here. 748 01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:55,960 And you know, David, there just may be a time when we 749 01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:02,599 have advanced enough here to kind of even communicate with the other side or or 750 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,360 are as sind or evolve enough. I don't know what the right word is, 751 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,119 to be able to see and to that dimension where they're living. Sure, 752 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,840 yeah, I mean we may have decided to live in another dimension, 753 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,960 not this particular dimension as well, probably all of those choices, very fescility. 754 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,039 Can you actually control your astral travel? Can you sort of turn it 755 01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:28,920 on upwards? It it's just kind of happen when you're asleep. Uh, 756 01:01:29,159 --> 01:01:32,880 it kind of happens when I go to sleep. I don't have like some 757 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,400 people say that they meet in the astral and they have meetings and stuff. 758 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:43,800 That's not me. I kind of just slip out and yeah, I haven't 759 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,039 gone into any practicing of it. And you know, honestly, people should 760 01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:51,840 know that a lot of everybody's doing it. They either don't remember it, 761 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,519 or they don't know it, or they think they're dreaming. No, oh, 762 01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:00,800 we all have these sometimes in a dream that you're flowing, you know, 763 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,800 and all of a sudden you wake up with a start with a jump. 764 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,599 I believe that's what you know. We're probably then shoot you back into 765 01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:12,960 our bodies, that's right. Yeah. I also think that some dreams that 766 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,480 were actually in different dimensions as well, because we've seemed to I mean, 767 01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:21,119 I've had dreams where someone that I've not seen for maybe thirty years, and 768 01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:22,639 suddenly that appear in this tream and you say, well, why did that 769 01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:28,800 happen? You know, it's h did I actually go to another dimension and 770 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,440 they were there where we were talking? And you know, it's strange. 771 01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:37,320 I have a lot of strange dreams. To you anyway, because it's been 772 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,400 fantastic talking to you, and thank you so much for finding the time to 773 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:44,519 come on. It's been brilliant talking to you, and you've been fascinated and 774 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,119 I really enjoyed talking to you. Thank you. I've enjoyed being on here, 775 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,320 David. Thank you. We'll have to do it again. Sometimes I 776 01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,039 love it. You know, I have a book out there I wrote many 777 01:02:55,079 --> 01:03:00,440 many years ago. David. It's The Encyclopedia the Unseen World. Yeah, 778 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:06,400 I've actually everyone now here. I haven't. I mean I've grown a lot 779 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:13,760 since that time, but the information still stands and was basically to my father 780 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,599 had come to visit me after he passed, and he did a number of 781 01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:19,360 things in the house to let me know that he was around. So I 782 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,079 dedicated that book to him. But I wanted to write something small, with 783 01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:27,679 little articles that people could get a sense of life after death. So it's 784 01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:34,440 got articles on angels crossing into the light after death, communication, how the 785 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,800 our loved ones try to reach us, and more. If you ever want 786 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,440 to talk about that, get more into this information. We can do that. 787 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,159 Yes, absolutely, yes, I will get your books, and I 788 01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:49,239 would love to speak to you again at some point. And this is all 789 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,559 of us says. Thank you so much, Gay, thanks for having me 790 01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:54,880 on, and you take care of yourself, and my bespec you to you, 791 01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,280 okay so much, you too, take care of yourself. Thank you. 792 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,480 Problem there we are. Thank you. That was Constance Victoria Briggs. 793 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,760 Very interesting. Thank you again, Victoria. So the next show is a 794 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,639 regular show which is on the twenty fourth of June, and it's another lady 795 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,599 and her name is Lily Nova, and she has a book out called Contact, 796 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,559 and she will be telling us all about her own contact and experiences with 797 01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:26,840 extraterrestrials. So hope you'll join me for that one. That's June twenty fourth 798 01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:30,639 Monday. Of course, Lily Nova. As always, if you like to 799 01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:35,480 get in touch with me anytime, my email address is David Young two QN 800 01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:41,800 at yahoo dot co dot uk. That's David Young two q ED at yahoo 801 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,719 dot co dot uk. So until the next show, this is June the 802 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,599 twenty fourth Monday with Lily Nover. What's your farewell and take care of yourselves 803 01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:58,880 by bye. 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