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Wilmer's Farm, Grover's Mill, the Jerseys. That's the pist and myself made
the eleven miles and in ten minutes. Well, I don't know where it
begins. May for your word. Picture of a strange thing before my eyes,
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it. Yes, I guess that's the thing directly in front of me,
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to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the UK's biggest paranormal network, and this
is Paranormal Dimensions with David Young. Hello, welcome to the show, my
first show on return from the United States for two weeks now. You may
recall if you've listened to the previous show that I did intend to meet with
Nancy Thamps, who is the guest on the show on the twenty seventh of
May. I did report that when that show go went out that so hopefully
I would be meeting Nancy, and we did indeed meet, although it was
a very short meeting, it was an interesting chat we had. The strange
thing was that Nancy turned up at my hotel when I wasn't actually supposed to
be there. My wife and I we returned to the hotel and Nancy just
happened to turn up at the same time. So I think there's something quite
psychic about Nancy. I did actually mention it to her at the time,
because we were actually intending to be out for all day long, but we
actually turned up in the car pot both at the same time, strangely.
Anyway, apart from that, the holiday went quite well. We did Memphis
obviously, Graceland, we were both Elvist fans. We traveled down to Tupelo,
it was his birthplace. From there we went right across Alabama to Chattanooga
and also to Gatlinburg, which is basically in the Smoky Mountains. So it
was a great tour. Although my wife wasn't too fond of the road trips,
but the temperatures were hot, mostly around about nine ninety seven I think
was the hottest. Anyway, we're back to chilly Old England now and it
has been quite cold, I must say, considering it's dune. But we
shall carry on and hopefully it will get warm up for this summer. So
there you go, right, So onto the guests for this show. My
guest is Constance Victoria Breaks, and we will be talking about Salctic history and
it's extraterrestrial connection. So this is an extra show again, which I do
try to bring. I've got quite a few extra shows lining up actually over
the next few months. So it's my great pleasure to welcome Constance Victoria Breaks
to the show. Hi. Constance, nice to walking into the show.
Thank you, Thanks hello to you, and thanks for having me. David.
Oh, I'm very pleased to walking into the show. I know you've
done these types of things quite a few times before. I hope you don't
get fed up with them. I don't know, I'm getting a little tired,
but I love it. I do love it. Yeah, I know,
obviously you're it's probably the same similar information out every time, but there's
always going to be somebody out there that has not heard it, especially maybe
on this network as well, which we've got a very wide network. But
I'm very intrigued about it. I think it's your most recent book as well,
isn't it The Earth Schalectic History? And it's extraterrestrial connection? Yes,
that's correct. So how do you see the Earth when it's extraterrestrial connection?
Because it's the extraterrestrial connection. It's quite important, there, isn't it.
It's so important? David. Yeah. So the reason that I wrote the
book, if I can get into that, is because of, you know,
two reasons. I have a huge interest and whether or not we are
alone in the universe, and if we are not, then who and what
may be out there. That's what prompted my writing and my research many many
years ago. They started, you know, like over thirty years ago,
go, I was researching this subject. And as of late in my life,
I mean, you know, life continues on and I always through writing
and metaphysics and spirituality, but this was always my passion. So as i've
you know, engaged in this work, I've had people come to me with
questions. They want to understand. People want to understand what's going on in
our skies. Right. More and more people David with cameras are recording UFOs
right and left. Some of them have recorded beings, strange beings that you
know, we don't know where they came from or what they are. Some
of them may be extraterrustrials. But so people have the question, and I
decided that we needed some kind of book that went from took them from the
beginning of human history through the centuries until present time, and look at the
tales and the stories and true accounts of our connections and our visitations with extraterrestrials
on planet Earth. So do you subscribe to the Erful decons series about well
not on the erful Deicons, ancient Aliens, et cetera. Yes, So
I'm a big ancient aliens or ancient astronauts proponent. Frankly speaking, I don't
believe that we just started being visited by extraterrestrials. People believe that because the
UFO phenomenon, which also has always been there, but because it was stepped
up in the nineteen forties. It is when we started seeing more and more
of these things. They believe that it started them, but that's not true.
Extraterrestrials and writings and drawings of what looks like flying saucers can be found
going back to at least the time of the beginning of our written history.
Okay, so it's not new. The question is how do we connect in
the past to the present and decide what's been going on. Some very interesting
stories out there that I got into in my book, especially also in the
Bible. There's many descriptions of a flying craft thought there. There's plenty of
descriptions. People thought, uh, these descriptions because they didn't have a better
word, so they wrote them down, and they call them angels, all
right, but you know, I'm the most The most famous case is that
of Ezekiel. Right. Ezekiel is well known to have seen what they called
an angel with several eyes spinning right, and you think, oh, that
doesn't make sense, will yeah? And also the birth of Jesus with the
three wives men following at flowing in the I mean, obviously that's a it's
the description of a ufo, isn't it. That's a description of a ufo.
And it is a controversial subject when it comes to Jesus. Of course,
why would there have been Yeah, we don't want to upset anybody out
there, but of course, yeah, but so well, I was just
look at it logically, and is the way it's described. That's yeah.
If they were following something other than a star, I mean, you know
it obviously it wasn't a star. Stars are up above in the universe and
it's not so low that you can follow it, right, absolutely, Yeah,
it was definitely I think something else, but something that wanted people to
witness something positive. I'll leave it at that. Yeah, that's right.
And also we go way back before the Bible. In other religious books like
the Mahaparetta, I talk about flying vehicles and the aliens if you like,
as well, so if I may, I did talk about those in my
book, and it's one of the most fascinating, some of the most fascinating
research I've come across, because research, because not only do they talk about
flying ships, but they give detailed accounts of how they were made, the
details of the inside, the energy that they ran on. And it does
say that they flew from Earth to the moon and beyond, and that the
gods were on these things and sometimes humans. So for me, that just
tells us that in ancient times we not only had extraterrestrial visitors that was living
among us, teaching us, as so many cultures have said, but also
taking us to the stars into the moon way back then. I mean,
I haven't actually read your book here insensical, I must say, how do
I describe you saw that these craft? How are witchcraft? I'm sorry,
David, Well you said about they described the insides of these crafts in the
ancient you know, in the how did actually describe them? I can't give
it to you verbatim, but I can say that they were double and triple
tiered sometimes, all right, and they had different shapes. Some of them
were shaped like disc some of them a number of them were shaped like a
kind of a bell like shape, very very strange. Yeah, like three
tiered inside. You know you can. I mean, I've seen drawings and
people's depictions where you could see, you know, areas where they may have
flown the ship, et cetera, et cetera. But that's about as good
as I can get. Obviously, you didn't see it first head yourself,
right, right? Have you actually seen UFOs yourself? So you know,
interesting I I am not a UFO person, you know, going out looking
for them. I would like to see them more, and I do have
it on my list to get special lenses to go and watch. Right because
I live right by the ocean, I'm sure they're going to be out there,
but I don't usually go up by myself, and I don't have anyone
out there to go with me, right, I don't have people around me
that are UFO enthusiast. But to answer your question, when I was a
child, I tell this story honestly, David. I don't know if this
was a ship or not. The word UFO and I had the acronym UFO
unidentified flying object used to mean just that, an unidentified flying object. Now
when people say UFO, they're really meaning a ship, all right. But
when I was nine years old, I did see something. And I remember
looking at this thing thinking, you know, looking at it, thinking I
wonder if that's one of those things. And I was nine. I didn't
have the word for it. But the thing was hovering, it was uhun
it had lights going around it. And I mean, I've thought on and
off about this for for a long time. It wasn't a plane. It
wasn't a helicopter. It wasn't a good Year blimp, which is what we
have, you know in the US. I don't know what it was,
so I've always said, yeah, I saw UFO and it had you know,
these revolving lights. It was a UFO. I can't identify it,
right. So I did see that, and then you know, I have
this whole other side of me that if you know, metaphysical and i astro
travel and in the atmosphere. Ye oh, okay, all right, that's
great obviously. So when you were younger, you grew up in Virginia on
the staye because you live in l at the moment, Is this where you
saw the crost? Yeah? So I saw it in Alexandria, Virginia.
I lived fifteen minutes outside of Washington, DC. And I just wonder that
if there was some sort of connection that would have been in the very in
the early seventies that I saught, and I wonder if there was something going
on over there. You know, there was this whole scene with the White
House in the UFO was over it, and I don't know if there's any
connection, right, but that's where I was at the time, and you
know, it's a big military area. You know, there's Fort Belvoir there
and some other basis in the vicinity. Who knows if that was a UFO
visiting a base or something, or on the way or but it was just
really strange. I don't really know what to make of that. I'm still
trying to find information from that time period on what I may have seen.
Of course, some of the UFOs have been seeing way back before that as
well. Anyway, do you believe that we've ever had any UFOs crash such
as Roswell and have we used alien technology in anything? Suddenly? Obviously your
opinion, I'm asking, right, Yeah, I like that, thank you.
So, you know, that Roswell account is really really interesting because you
know, I've gone over it, and I do believe there was a Roswell
crash, and I believe it was an et UFO a ship. I believe
it was a ship because when you read the account, you know, this
farmer who whatever that the man who owned the property, you know, he
said that he saw this thing, you know, strown all about. It
was in pieces all about his property, and he left it and he went
into town and it wasn't like today. You know, they had to kind
of you know, they didn't have like these, you know, iPhones and
stuff. He took his time getting there, and oh, there had been
a UFO sighting and by that was all over the radio at the time.
And then he found this thing. So it was more than a coincidence my
opinion, that they that people had seen UFOs and then he found this thing
crashed. Okay, now, oh, did he make it up? No,
he didn't make it up. He went to town and he went to
the sheriff sheriff's office, and they didn't believe them, but they sent investigators
and they found this thing. They found a lot of it, and then
you know, they decided, you know, maybe we shouldn't tell this.
So I believe they did try to cover up and call it, call it
a weather balloon, and a weather balloon would not have had that many pieces
that they found. I do believe that that did happen, But I don't
know why they want to cover that up still with all the information that has
come out today, to me, that is the least of their worry.
Yeah, and the Air Force did actually release that the UFO had queshed,
didn't they And then they's what's the general got ahold of those what's a cush
it? But obviously they must have thought it was more important than a bit
because they sent out a falst amount of if you want to call them that,
to clean the area up. So there's obviously more to it than Yes,
yes, it's more to it, and I uh, yeah, I
believe that there have been probably more than one, and I do believe that,
you know, it is being covered up. But you know, just
my opinion, I think that they obviously they know more, but maybe they
have something to do with that crash. Maybe they want to you know,
people are saying, oh, they're you know, looking at the technology and
all of that. You know, if you've got a government and they've got
crashed UFOs, they're not going to want to share it with the other governments
if they're trying to figure out the technology. So I don't necessarily think that
the government is trying to prevent us from knowing we're not alone in the universe
like other people think. Maybe they want to use that technology for something and
they're not sharing it with the world. Yeah. Absolutely, During the war,
we kept seeing things like the food fighters and the Russians, well not
the Russians, but the Germans thought we were putting out secrets weapons and we
thought the Germans were putting our secret weapons. So those food fighters, as
nobody's ever come up with an answer as to what they were. Have they
No, they haven't. But I tell you what, it kind of looked
like they were fighting on both sides for a while or something, just on
things. Yeah, refereeing things, right, But I have to tell you,
David, that wasn't the first time. Okay. So in my in
my research in history, you know, going back to medieval times and ancient
times, uh, there are reports of wars where where UFOs were coming between
armies and so each army, each army often thought that whomever they called God
was on their side. They're all they're saying, oh a miracle, oh
arts here, he's trying to, you know, take our side, and
the others like, no, they're taking it, taking our site, whereas
actually they were trying probably to prevent us from killing each other. In fact,
in fact, I have one account in my book where UFO literally just
came down and got between came so close between the two armies that they stopped
as they were coming to war. I guess that's called there's a word for
the advancing. While they were advancing, it came between and they all got
scared and they went the other way and the UFO stopped them. All right,
that's just one account of this happening. So somebody out there is trying
to look out for humankind, even if we're not looking out for ourselves.
Yeah, that's I understand. I think in the American Civil War it was
it was a general. He met up with a UFO believe it landed,
and he was given a message to a cult. Think who it was there.
I don't know if it was Stumbul Jackson or someone like that, but
I can't think of either. Actually I can't remember. It was an event,
but I think it was documentary what it was. Now there's any way
you were mentioning that about during wars and things. Yeah, there's one account
that was amazing out of the medieval times where they had these priests in their
their church area and they were having dinner and they were preparing for especially event
the next day, and they heard all of this clashing and smashing going on
and the building was shaking, the door open, and they ran out and
there's all these people looking up into the sky and what they basically saw were
lasers laser fighting and lights blinking, and they could hear even clashing. And
then at some point they heard the voice say the gods are leaving. And
I thought, because back then, let me just say that the the Romans,
and it was it was, this was in Rome, but the Romans
kept very meticulous records for us today as to what was happening, and those
records had to be vetted before anybody could even write in them. And so
thousands of people saw those things all over the place, and they were fighting
in the skies and they said the gods are leaving, and I thought,
wow, that sounds like sarcasm. It sounds like there was someone coming towards
Earth and someone else came and stopped them and got in a fight. All
right, is there's someone out there that wants to take over Earth? And
then we have stories of extraterrestrials being referred to as gods. So I'm just
wondering if these these beings that were here and coming towards Earth, you know,
were they posing as gods or superior beings during that time or planning to
Because they said that they heard this and they wrote it in the historical record,
the gods are leaving. And I said, oh, that sounds like
sarcasm to me. I mean, it didn't have to be. But you
know, whoever it was, they didn't want them down here bothering us.
Very interesting stuff. He is very interesting. And you mentioned in the Romans
all the like to have a look in the Vatican myself, because I think
there's probably tons of information about UFOs and aliens within the Vatican, because there
are certain documents and books and god knows what else that they will not allow
people to see, fifty three miles of books and documents. I had to
repeat this to my husband the other night. He couldn't believe it. He's
like, what, And I said, it's true, and you don't know
what's in there. In fact, there was a researcher. I don't know
how this man got into the Vatican to do this, but he was given
entry, and I don't know if I don't think he was looking for this
stuff, he was looking for something else. But he did come across a
lot of information about UFOs and extraterrestrials, and he wasn't allowed to take anything
out of course, but he came back and he wrote it down. I
have that story in my book, and I find that fascinating because not only
does he did he find out, but who knows what else is in there?
See see David. I think that there was a time in our history
and human history where we had the answers, where we knew exactly our connection
with extraterrestrials. They lived among us, you know, walked among as,
taught at things, and then for whatever reason, they left. But I
think that there were documents and information, not necessarily within the Vatican, but
maybe some of it is. But I think maybe the Library of Alexandria may
have had a lot of information before it was burnt down. I think someone
knew and had that info. And I think that with us looking like we're
heading into an introduction with extraterrestrials, I bet there are ET's out there that
can tell us exactly what happened in our history. Yeah, I mean,
fifty three miles of it is actually mindful. Even a mile, even a
mile of documents would be mind boggling, But fifty three miles a bit is
crazy, you know, and you know you've got to ask the question why
they want to cover it up and why they want to keep it secret.
You know, it's uh, I mean talking about alien races. I mean,
how many races do you think may well have visited this planet? Oh,
David, there are no you can I know, you've got no evidence
all or you can prove anything. Or I've heard that there are hundreds,
okay, if not more than that. But there's a lot that have come
and gone. And in fact, I am working on a book about it
and trying to just trying to come up with, you know, that number
and see where I get. Because I think it's important for us to look
at every race that we've ever heard of that has maybe have maybe have been
visiting us. All right, but yeah, hundreds, okay, if not
more. And it's real interesting stuff. And if you look around today,
just a going back to the UFOs, there are so many differently shaped UFOs
out there, right, you can figure that they're not all coming from one
place. They're all different shapes and sizes and colors. And I believe they're
coming from different worlds. It's just that we are not frizy to the inside
information. But I think that we should open our minds, think outside of
the box and examine the information that we do have on UFOs and extraterrestrials.
I have some of it written down in this book already, but I'm working
on even a greater detailed book because I tell you there's going to come a
time when we're going to want this information written down. I feel like in
one place, because you know, if something were to happen to goodness knows,
I don't know what they call it, the grid or the technology,
and we lose what we have and some catacalyst ma event, I think we
should have this knowledge that we researchers are gaining today written down and captain steared
offline because we may lose you know, you lose this and have visitations and
not have any information and not having any knowledge. So anyway, I think
we should get all of this information out and down for people to you know,
to look at and see and kind of churn in their minds and and
and help us to figure out, you know, what's going on. Yeah,
I think it's a good idea because I can't think of a book that's
actually actually documented alien visits at all. When you hear of individual cases,
but not actually documented entire and the entire encyclopedia, if you like, of
alien ratios that are visited. And I think it would be a really good
idea. Yeah, you know, where we go with that, I don't
know. But how do you feel about disclosure? Do you feel do you
feel disclosure is coming slowly? Yeah? So, you know, I think
disclosure is coming. I think it's coming slowly, as you said, and
I think that it's something that is not completely in our hands. I think
that the idea of it being disclosed that there are extrarestrial extraterrestrials here and have
always been goes back from the beginning of our creation. I think it was
always the plan for ets to have us to grow mature as a species and
then grow into the knowledge that we're not alone, all right, and in
baby steps and learning, and they're watching to see where we go with our
own world, in our own lives before they disclose all of that information.
Now the government disclosure, all right, that's that's another thing, all right.
They may not be disclosing because, like I said, maybe they've got
uhance technology from down crafts or our advanced technology given to them by ets that
visited them. Maybe they would like to use that for defense of somehow,
because all of the governments are big on defense. So maybe they are holding
up the disclosure about down crafts. But if you're talking about disclosure about our
being visited and not alone, I think that might be in the ET's hands
because they have said that we are not fully ready, that they're getting us
ready, but we're not fully ready. And in fact, there was a
gentleman by the name of hal some As shed I hope. I don't know
how to pronounce his name, you know, I know I get bombarded at
some time with oh, you don't you're not say that right now. He
was at Israeli General that came out with book a few years ago, two
or three years ago, and do you remember that, And he said that
he was old and he had all of done everything he wanted and he worked
and I think worked. H yeah, I think it was hashome E s
hg Ds his last name. And he said we have people on Mars,
there are humans on Mars working with extraterrestrials, but that the extraterrestrial stated not
to tell us because we don't understand UFOs yet. We're not ready yet.
Even though he was you know, telling us and told said not to he
was telling and he named the Galactic Federation, which is a title I heard
thirty years ago. And so basically I'm trying to say that it could be
the extraterrestrials that are holding up all of the information of disclosure. They I
think have a timeline on when we will be allowed to know. Now,
there is a gentleman by the name of Alex Collier who says that he is
an Andromedon representative. He represents the Andromedin race of people out there, and
he says there's five of them on Earth. He's been around for years.
This man, he's fascinating to listen to listen to, and that the Andromedin's
told him that they might have to step up the timeline of us being informed
because of what we're doing with the Earth. So that's why I think disclosure
just may be in the ETS hands as to when we get to know things.
And if I may just elaborate a little bit, David, I don't
not allow you to ask any So one of the ways that extraterrestrials are said
to be educating us that they are out there is through our science fiction and
our social media and in books and things, but the science fiction and television
and movies is a way that they have been trying to reach us. There
is a gentleman by the name of Gene Roddenberry who started Star Trek right,
and as much as people may not want to hear that a serious topic like
this may have anything to do with science fiction, Gene Roddenberry is said to
have been sitting in on these channeling sessions with a woman who said she was
channeling extraterrestrials, and these extraterrestrials told her while he was there that they were
traveling on a ship in Earth's vicinity, that the crew was from different worlds,
and that they were working together in harmony and peace and traveling the galaxy.
Now does that not sound like Star Trek. And there's another there's a
rumor I cannot say who's I don't remember who said it, but it was
interesting that the rumor that there was president that met with extraterrestrial the ets told
them as part of the agreement that they wanted humanity to learn about them and
that that we would get to get to work on it. Part of me
for being a little distracted, Yeah, President Trum Truman. I don't know
if it's Truman, but I do know that Eisenhower was I did said to
have met with extraterrestrials. I'm not sure if that was the same occasion or
if there has been more than one meeting with Eisenhower, but yeah, yeah,
there have been leaders that have met with with ets. I'm sure it's
not just the American government, and I am working on that getting more information.
No, I was actually going to ask you about some agents actually helping
us with with stuff, because we do hear about a lot about these underground
tunnels all over the place that are being kept secret that may well have a
life working with us or with the military on the ground. She believes that.
I don't know if they're working with the military, to be honest with
you, but I have heard that they are working with scientists, that they've
been trying to help prove our health, maybe upgrade humanity, working to get
rid of diseases, working to perhaps get rid of atomic weaponry somehow. I
don't know what the idea would be there. Oh, if you mean,
have they been working with the military, I don't know about the tunnels,
but they have definitely been UFO seen around bases around the world in which they
have disarmed atomic weapons. All right, so yeah, I do believe they
are trying to help prevent us from killing ourselves. They said they won't.
They did tell Eisenhower, somebody tell Eisenhower or one of the presidents, and
they're not going to allow us to kill all of the life on Earth.
And that's one of the reasons that the Andromedins told this gentleman named Alex Collier
that they would step in because, you know, they said that we have
a rippling effect. Our actions have rippling effects, especially with the atomic weaponry
throughout the galaxy. And then they're not going to allow us to kill all
of life on Earth. Now, some argue that one of the reasons they
don't want us to kill all life is because they need some of the resources
on Earth. You know, there's some speculation that extraterrestrials need, you know,
some of the elements here on Earth, such as gold, and there
have been there have been ships seen removing water from lakes, et cetera.
Also, we are supposed to supposedly there are extra trusturals living here. So
they don't want their brothers and sisters that are on Earth to be hurt.
I mean, there's a number of reasons why they may be intervening here,
But as far as them being in the tunnels, I'm not sure what they're
doing down there. A lot of this stuff is said to be going on
in Antarctica. I'm not an expert on that, but I will tell you,
David, one of the things that I covered in my book was that
there are tunnels inside of Earth, these huge cavities where extraterrestrials are thought to
be living and working. And that's not even the part that's what we talked
about the hollow Earth. There are, like you know, I talk about
cities, extraterrestrials being down there are intraterrestrials being that may have started on Earth
when humanity started on the surface, which still would kind of make them like
extraterrestrials to us. But I call them intraterrestrials because they have a whole way
of living and being. But that's still different then the question you asked me.
Yes, I do think there are eties on Earth working with scientists at
least for some reason. And interestingly enough, there's a gentleman by the name
of Charles Hall. I don't know if you've heard of him. Charles Hall
said that he worked on a excuse me, on one of the bases here
in the US. He gave the name of the base, forgive me that
I don't remember the name. He's written several books and he said that he
worked with the Tall Whites. He gave the name of the base. He's
given his name, has ranked all the information, all right, And he
taught described the Tall Whites as being this et race that was living here and
working with the military. Now to what in I don't know. I'm surprised
that if he hasn't been questioned that, you know, the government hasn't questioned
him, because he has not been quiet about this old thing. You just
note that or shall have a look into that, definitely. So you do
also mention, like you say you did mention it about the Antartica. How
do you look on the dimensional aspects of things? Do you do you look
at anything interdimensional that some of these beings may be coming through on interdimensional rather
than extraterrestful? Right, So yeah, I believe in both interdimensionals. I
definitely believe that we are crossing over sometimes into other dimensions, and especially with
gosh, especially with the creation of the atomic weapons, I think it may
have opened up some areas and things have come through from other realms that we
didn't know would. We didn't know what we were doing when we did that.
And yeah, I do believe that they are coming in from other dimensions
as well. There's a lot, there's a lot going on. I'll tell
you a story. I have a book where this gentleman was doing his research
on ghost and what he said was everything he's learned about ghost and looked like
most of what we're seeing our ghost at all. It looks like there are
beings coming in what he thinks from other dimensions, because when you hear things
like you hear about things like a ghost ship or you know. In one
case he studied, there there was a forest and it sounded like there were
people having a party in pots banging. There are no no pot ghost pots
banging going on, but it looked like he thought that the dimensions were crossing
somehow. And also he got a call to come and investigate a family that
had moved into a home and in their basement they found two young children dressed
in these strange looking outfits. They were jumpsuits that looked like nothing they'd ever
imagine here on Earth. And the children were looking at them, they had
just moved into this house, were looking at them in fear, and they
were looking at the children in fear, thinking they were ghosts. And the
gentleman, the researcher, said, no, I think they were extradressorial beings
and we had somehow crossed over or they had come in so as far as
the ets and far as far as the UFOs and some of the cryptis.
They could be from other dimensions that have found a way in here, and
that's why we can't find them. That's why we can't find Like with the
whole Sasquatch thing, they're saying, oh again, right, there's no bones.
What are you talking about. It doesn't exist. They can't find anything.
He's coming and going through a portal to another dimension. Quite possibly.
Now I fully agree with that. I was going to say to you also
that actually their concern about our use of nuclear weapons would have a vast effects
on them as well, because if we're if it's just a different dimension,
what we do would affect them as well. So that could be a concern
of h Yeah, it's the problem. And the thing is this, they
they are more educated about these things than we are. It seems we are
the ones who are in the dark about what we're doing, or I don't
believe they would be. You know, our scientists in our military would actually
be doing this if they believed it. You know, the extraterrestrials, some
of most of them are more advanced than us. Okay, so they're going
to be more knowledgeable about the damage that we can do. So I believe
that we have extraterrestrials that are behind us in technology, that are just developing,
that are at our cave man age, so to speak. But I
believe also that we have extraterrestrials in are hundreds and or in thousands, millions
and even billions of years in advance of us. So you know, they
know what could happen. And if we, you know, continue as we
are on the planet with the weaponry and the way we're treating you know,
the world and the violence, they know, and they're trying to wait until
we mature and grow. If not, then they're going to step in.
And they told the uh Andromedon ambassador that there could be consequences for us if
we can't get our act together. Yeah. Sure. Another interesting book of
Bules which said, well, I think you've written a couple of't you mysteries
of the Moon? Yeah, which quite fascinates me quite a bit. That's
another one. I think that's most Could you tell us much about that?
Oh? Yeah? What? What? What discoveries did you make? You
know? Honestly, David, studying studying the Moon was fascinating for me because,
like most people, I grew up thinking that the Moon was a dead
rock in the sky. There's nothing going on there. It's flat, it's
gray, it looks good in the sun's light. What I It came to
a shock to me to know that even before the astronauts went up, and
I know some people don't believe they did, but I do. I was
going to ask you that, I'll but long before they went up, you
know, we had the orbiters going up and they were taking pictures. I
mean it was those probes took pictures and sent back structures on the Moon,
and that was a huge to do. In the seventies and eighties when that
information came out, we had some fabulous researches back then Richard, Georgett Holgerlin,
Michael Bara who wrote books on it, and Georgia. Yeah. I
mean they did amazing research, but it didn't stop there. It has continued.
So what I've found out is that along with those structures the Apollo astronauts
did every single mission that went up, they encountered extraterrestrials and I mean,
not I should say UFOs, not extraterrestrials, UFOs, strange lights. They
all had some sort of odd experience while they were out there, which let
us know that we were being watched. From the time that we had the
Gemini and Mercury missions here on Earth, those pilots were saying they were seeing
UFOs. Then we finally get out there and those astronauts are saying, you
know, there's there's UFOs. It just shows that we were being watched by
someone. Were we being watched because they didn't want us to know about the
structures on the Moon or any more than we had already discovered. But we
know they get out there and we discovered things like the Moon might be hollow.
You know how strange is that I thought the Moon had been you know,
captured in Earth's gravity. That's what I grew up thinking. And but
no, all of the all of the tails are the what they thought was
scientific fact of how the Moon came to be. Turned out that they can't
prove any of it. And the thing may be hollow. It may be
a megastructure that was brought into Earth's vicinity, and the idea that it has
structures on it tells us that someone is on the moon. The structures didn't
bill themselves. So that's what I learned, that the Moon may be a
megastructure or a spaceship that was brought in here. In fact, there were
Russian scientists that said in the seventies, you know, we think that you
know, there was a general it's a generationalist ship with people, and it's
got engines in it and all this, and it was sent across the universe
and placed here, and that that is the only logical thing to conclude when
it comes to the Moon and where it came and how it came to be
there. It makes a ringing cell when it gets banged. It makes a
ringing ringing toad as well, didn't it, as I understand it, Well,
no, it didn't exactly sound like a bell. It reverberated like a
bell. That's quite Yeah, that's fascinating, and that's you know this people
think that this was a conspiracy theory or a hoax. No, people didn't.
Somebody didn't make that up. Nessa's scientists came out when they went up
there and this happened, and they said, well, you know, we
don't really want to talk about it, elaborate on it, but you know,
it looks like it might be hollow because it shouldn't be doing that.
It shouldn't be you know, shouldn't be reverberating or ringing like a bell or
whatever. Shouldn't be doing that. That's what they said. That's how that
rumor got started. Yeah, because it shouldn't. There's something it looks like
going on with the moon, and there's something or someone in there. And
not only are they inside the moon, but those structures that the researchers found
out those all those years ago, you know, those are on the surface,
all right. And one of them had said like that it looked like
there had been some kind of war up there, that it looks like some
of the structures were just blown apart, which you know, which is where
I come in, all right, you know, studying trying to get to
the galactic history, It's like, Okay, if there looks like there was
a war on the Moon, then who were they warring with? If there's
someone there, who were they warring with? Were they warring with Earth?
Because you know, if you look at Earth, there were places where it
looks like atomic bombs hit long before we created the bomb, all right,
And then Mars they're talking about the same kind of effect on Mars. Were
the three of them fighting each other? Or were the three the Moon,
Mars, and Earth fighting a foe from out there? Right? Which is
what the war? Maybe that's where it came from. Yeah, who knows?
Who knows that? Well, Mars it's thought to have been a lot
a living, a vibrant place right with life, and I still think there's
life up there. Maybe they had the one side too, who knows because
of the destruction, but yeah, what happened? What happened there that turns
that thing into such a desert like environment? You know, we have we
have the history that you know, our ancestors flew to the universe and back
that we had the power to fly. If you go to Egypt in one
of the famous historical cities that I can't remember. But I mean we've all
seen the right, the drawings of the airplane and what looks like a submarine
and a helicopter, all right, and not just Egypt, but around the
world. There are tales of beings from the stars that came and went on
ships, and so often the ships were described. They didn't just say these
beings came from the heavens with wings. They described their ships. So yeah,
yeah, Well, one thing that stands out with me with the Moon,
many of the craters are around the around the Moon, don't you seem
together there are certain depths, doesn't they just as if as if a meteor
is hitting the Moon and it's hitting a lot of metal metallically, Yeah,
maybe it's a metal ball of some salt and it only goes down so far
because it seems to be there's no real deep Yeah, a lot We've got
the Grand Canyon and things like that, or very deep volcanoes. There doesn't
seem to be anything like that on the Moon, which seems that it's strange
to me. How do you feel about that? You know? They as
far as the uh, these craters you're talking about, they're all approximately two
and a half mile deep, although they can't be craggy inside, you know,
they're all they're not necessarily smooth. They have some little crag craggy inside
some of them. But yeah, so the power astronauts tried to drill into
and to the Moon and they hit metal and they couldn't they couldn't get in.
So basically that's strange. Right. So basically what the same scientists that
I mentioned earlier said that was is that from what it looks like the Moon
had, the Moon has an incredibly hard hull and it was made from these
elements according to the information brought back from the Pollo astronauts when they brought back
you know, some of the sandy stuff on the surface and dirt and all
of this stuff, and so there's it's made up of strange elements. And
they think that whatever it's that it's it is a hard structure that was made
to tolerate radiation, you know, heat and and meteorites hitting it and bombarding,
bombarding it as it was coming across the universe for a long time,
and so they think that it was created to be a kind of protective,
uh machine that if our scientists were to build a craft to be traveling throughout
the universe. And I guess maybe like star truck ship, you know,
it's made from something that could just the materials would protect whatever is inside of
it. I guess whatever, or the question is whatever or whoever is in
there? What is in there that they would have to create a whole so
hard as to protect them, but it is so valuable. Could it be
a generation of extraterrestrials? And I know, I'm sorry, I didn't I
didn't say that quite so. Well, yeah, it looks like a protective,
protective thing. But here's a fun story. So I had talked about
Gene Roddenberry, right, and maybe Star Trek was inspired from him sitting in
on those channeling sessions. Well, in one of the shows, I believe
it's titled the World the Sky, who I'm forgetting the name of it is,
Oh, the world is hollow and I have touched the sky all right
about It was about an asteroid that had people living inside of this asteroid.
On the outside of the asteroid, it looked like a regular planetary body kind
of thing or space like an irregular asteroid. In fact, in the show,
the crew had to beam over to this asteroid thinking it was that an
asteroid. So when they got there, the first thing they see on the
asteroid was structures. Right then they had to go inside and they see that
there are people living inside this asteroid that was designed to look this way,
and it was sent across the universe. According to Jeane Roddenberry's story, it
was sent across the universe with these people living inside of it. It sounds
almost exactly about the story of what we're understanding I think we are understanding might
be understanding about the Moon there it was, oh, because the other theory
is that the Moon was designed to look like a planetary body to maybe be
camouflage from nefarious beings out there that might want to, you know, take
control of it once they knew it was a ship. Who knows. So
I just found it interesting that Roddenberry had a story that was put out there
before, long before the astronauts went to the Moon. That's almost identical,
almost giving it away. There's a lot of little secrets that keeps themselves here.
But now we must come off the extraterrestrial Moon and those everything else.
This took my actual travel because I know that's one of your other fascinating subjects.
Yeah, and it fascinates me. Yeah, it fascinates me too,
David's I'm not one of those people who set out to practice this, all
right. So it's something that came up in my life when I was in
my twenties and I had vaguely heard about astro travel. And the first time
that I recognized that I wasn't dreaming that I was traveling, it was because
I went to sleep. I was living single, I had my own apartment,
living sick note single, and I went to sleep one night and I
woke up above my apartment building. Wow. I lived in a high rise
apartment building, and I lived over a famous bridge called the Woodrow Wilson Bridge
for anybody who might watch this, who knows the area, I don't know.
And I could see the cars moving on the bridge and I was in
the sky. Wow. It was dark, it was night, but I
seemed to have had some sort of white glow around me. And I woke
up. It felt like, David, I had taken some sort of drugs,
which I did, and I've never done drugs for drink, but like
you know, if you take coal medicine, you're kind of groggy, That's
what I felt. And I remember looking down and I started kind of floating
downward when I went to be over to look, and then I caught myself
and I was bobbing up and down, and I knew, I knew because
I had heard of it. I knew I was out of my body.
And then I left and there is an area, a vague area that I
don't remember what happened, but I ended up in a in a building somewhere,
and I believe it was a different dimensional dimension because I saw an animal
there that was not anything that we have, and it was floating, you
know when I went floating, well, when it moved, it was in
the air moving, and I remember I looked at this thing and I said,
I wonder if it can see me, because I know, I know
I'm not in the body, and it looked and then it came after me
and I went running and I went flying through a wall. That was the
first time that I had what I call a conscious out of body experience.
And people will say, oh, no, no, no, that sounds
like a dream. You really have to go through it to understand that.
You think you're dreaming, but then you wake up and you're not in your
bed, You're somewhere else, all right. So I've had those, I've
gone to other dimensions. One of them was where I saw a humanoid girl,
but she had the face was a little different in here and again I
was watching her and I was thinking, God, can she see me?
She didn't seem to be able to see me at that point. But I
think one of my other interesting well, I've had a lot of them,
but this experience taught me something was I went to another dimension and the people
there knew that I was from somewhere else. So there are beings that know
they can leave their bodies and travel and return because they knew, and they
didn't want me to leave. I was trying to help them figure out something.
I don't know what, but they were trying to hurry before I had
to leave. That taught me that there are beings out there that know we're
just beginning to even You know, I can go next door and my neighbor
will say, oh, I don't know what are you talking about. You
can travel outside your your body, but I know there are beings outside this
planet that knows how to do it and knows that you know, they can
do it. I wanted to tell you about the UFO in my astral experience.
So I had a toddler, my little boy at the time. He
was taking a nap. I decided to take a nap too, and I
knew enough by then that you can be waking up in traveling and then you're
just pulled right back into your body. Well, I went to sleep,
came out of the body, and found myself in the sky looking at this
amazing ship. It was a bronze color and it shimmered, and it looked
like something divine, something not like what we see in the pictures of UFOs
and disc shaped things. This was beautiful and I was going towards it,
and I was probably going to go through that wall, the wall of it,
and I was thinking, oh, shoot, I hope I don't wake
up, because so often, you know, that's what would happen. I
hope the phone doesn't ring and I wake up. Well, guess what happened,
David. Sure enough, my husband called and I was pulled back,
snap back in and woke up. Okay, And I never got back there.
But that was my second UFO that I saw, and I saw it
in the astral which tells me that there are invisible ships out there that we
cannot see. And not only that are their ships, but because we are
limited in these bodies, there is life around us on this planet, in
the sky everywhere that we can't see. Yeah, it's been described as like
a vibration plane. Is it that we can only see a certain a certain
plane within front of us, But it is everything they're going on around us
that's sort of different vibration that we can't see. Yeah, yes, it's
it's just just amazing. So a lot of times when people are experiencing feeling
things touched them or sitting I've had what feels like someone's sitting on my bed
and it's really annoying. I mean, it doesn't happen much these days,
but in my life I've had things happen. It's not because it's a ghost.
Everything's not a ghost. It's because there's something or someone there that we
can't see. And it's not necessarily scary. You know, everything is not
evil, all right? Done that to us, isn't the Hollywood has done
that to us? Hollywood? Do you believe in ghosts anyway? It's just
so you know, I've grown to the point now, well, yes,
I do believe in ghost but I think that some like I said, there's
more to it the story. Sometimes. For example, when my dad passed
away, he came back to let me know that, you know, he
was around, and I mean, they try to reach us from where they
are, but somebody would call that a ghost. He literally took a chord,
a lamp chord was plugged into my wall. He ripped that thing out
because he couldn't get my attention any other way, apparently, so he went
did something drastic. Was Is he a ghost or is he a person living
in another It's just a description we use. I agree with you. Inside,
No, I think they are somewhere living a life. I don't think
that they are these woozy soul beings that came from us and they're just hanging
out in the clouds somewhere or they're coming through. I think that they are
living somewhere, right, So, but yes, I believe that they're there.
Yes, you can come and go and they can interact. I think
the important thing we get out of that is life after death, basically that
we go somewhere else, you know, And I think that's I think to
most of us that's been proven beyond out anyway, now for a lot of
us, No, that's what I'm saying for most of us who have I
mean, I've spoken to so many people now as you as you, as
you no doubt have, and they're also much the same sort of story.
And you know, and your your experiences fascinate me. You obviously do believe
in life after death, and that's all traffic. Do you believe in reincarnation
as well? That we have the choice to come back. I do believe
we have the choice to come back. I mean, I've just heard too
many stories while we move on to I don't know. Yes, yeah,
I think that we have the choice to come back. I think that we
are strong, independent souls. And I use soul loosely because I don't know
if we have the real word as to what that is. That's we really
are something someone else, so much more than what we are when we're on
Earth. So I would say, yes, we have that ability, and
we have that choice to come back here or to go to another planet to
live, or to stay where we came from. That's how powerful we are.
However we started in the universe. We have choices of what to do
with our life, our soul's life. This is not all of it.
I don't have any any problem or any fear of dying, of dying would
come from you know, I have a fear of how I might go.
But no, I do believe it's better there wherever that is, than here.
And you know, David, there just may be a time when we
have advanced enough here to kind of even communicate with the other side or or
are as sind or evolve enough. I don't know what the right word is,
to be able to see and to that dimension where they're living. Sure,
yeah, I mean we may have decided to live in another dimension,
not this particular dimension as well, probably all of those choices, very fescility.
Can you actually control your astral travel? Can you sort of turn it
on upwards? It it's just kind of happen when you're asleep. Uh,
it kind of happens when I go to sleep. I don't have like some
people say that they meet in the astral and they have meetings and stuff.
That's not me. I kind of just slip out and yeah, I haven't
gone into any practicing of it. And you know, honestly, people should
know that a lot of everybody's doing it. They either don't remember it,
or they don't know it, or they think they're dreaming. No, oh,
we all have these sometimes in a dream that you're flowing, you know,
and all of a sudden you wake up with a start with a jump.
I believe that's what you know. We're probably then shoot you back into
our bodies, that's right. Yeah. I also think that some dreams that
were actually in different dimensions as well, because we've seemed to I mean,
I've had dreams where someone that I've not seen for maybe thirty years, and
suddenly that appear in this tream and you say, well, why did that
happen? You know, it's h did I actually go to another dimension and
they were there where we were talking? And you know, it's strange.
I have a lot of strange dreams. To you anyway, because it's been
fantastic talking to you, and thank you so much for finding the time to
come on. It's been brilliant talking to you, and you've been fascinated and
I really enjoyed talking to you. Thank you. I've enjoyed being on here,
David. Thank you. We'll have to do it again. Sometimes I
love it. You know, I have a book out there I wrote many
many years ago. David. It's The Encyclopedia the Unseen World. Yeah,
I've actually everyone now here. I haven't. I mean I've grown a lot
since that time, but the information still stands and was basically to my father
had come to visit me after he passed, and he did a number of
things in the house to let me know that he was around. So I
dedicated that book to him. But I wanted to write something small, with
little articles that people could get a sense of life after death. So it's
got articles on angels crossing into the light after death, communication, how the
our loved ones try to reach us, and more. If you ever want
to talk about that, get more into this information. We can do that.
Yes, absolutely, yes, I will get your books, and I
would love to speak to you again at some point. And this is all
of us says. Thank you so much, Gay, thanks for having me
on, and you take care of yourself, and my bespec you to you,
okay so much, you too, take care of yourself. Thank you.
Problem there we are. Thank you. That was Constance Victoria Briggs.
Very interesting. Thank you again, Victoria. So the next show is a
regular show which is on the twenty fourth of June, and it's another lady
and her name is Lily Nova, and she has a book out called Contact,
and she will be telling us all about her own contact and experiences with
extraterrestrials. So hope you'll join me for that one. That's June twenty fourth
Monday. Of course, Lily Nova. As always, if you like to
get in touch with me anytime, my email address is David Young two QN
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