1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Good morning. How are you doing, Christina? Good? How are you 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,240 doing? Arrow? Absolutely fantastic. I gotta tell you, I've had so 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,640 many conversations with with those that are associated with National Geographic Kids. This book 4 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:13,199 right here, I gotta tell you, I think it's the most fun I've 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:19,359 ever had. I love this book. That is music to my ears. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,399 I absolutely love this book too. It is just it's fun. Every page, 7 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:25,760 You're like, oh, I learned something new, or I have funny 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,480 books and I can tell me it's so true. But who doesn't love a 9 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:32,719 great horse story. I mean, it's just they're just a major part of 10 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:38,079 our lives. It's true. I mean, I don't know about you, 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,920 but I was definitely the horse kid. I was a horse girl growing up. 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,119 I got lucky enough to have horses when I was a kid, but 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,039 even before then, I couldn't read enough about horses. There's just this bond 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,840 between horses and humans, but I think we only see pretty much maybe with 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,000 casts and dogs for the most part, but it is inexplicable. I'm so 16 00:00:59,079 --> 00:01:03,799 wonderful now. I'm not a professional horse whisperer, but I am known for 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,040 going up to talk with a horse, and I would love really love to 18 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:11,079 stand there and read this book to a horse, because I would love to 19 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:14,120 see what their reaction is to not only my voice and the sound of it, 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,480 but to see the pictures, because I think they get us. Oh 21 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:23,879 absolutely. We talked a little bit about how horses have seventeen different expressions, 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,799 and you find all of them within the pages of this book. And most 23 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:32,120 of the photos are pretty funny, whether it's a horse nickering or telling a 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,400 joke of a little speech bubble next to it, or even just simply someone 25 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:40,560 that are just so sick and cute. We have a Marwari horse that has 26 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:44,079 these curved ears that touch each other, and oh my goodness, I can't 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,599 It's just the cutest thing I've ever seen. How did it the making of 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,079 the book come into play, because I mean, there's so much information here, 29 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:55,120 so much that that's just I mean, it's such a wealth of knowledge 30 00:01:55,159 --> 00:01:57,319 that I put it on my coffee table so that I can sit there and 31 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:00,400 pick it up and read little bits at a time and then digest it. 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Oh I love hearing that. So this book, honestly the conceit was. 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,960 It's part of the series it's called Can't Get Enough and we wanted to talk 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 on subjects that especially at the seven to ten year old range, where I 35 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,680 feel like that's when those obsessions start, where they want to know everything about 36 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,560 a certain subject. And for us, especially at National Geographic, we love 37 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,319 talking about science and animals, and so horses was just the natural next subject. 38 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,000 Who doesn't want to learn more about a horse and really grasp it but 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,319 also just have fun while doing it. So we made sure that we had 40 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,919 some personality quizes, which, funny enough when the kids do it, they 41 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:44,840 learned so much about themselves but also about horses. So you'll learn what temperament 42 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,080 you have and which horse that relates to. You'll figure out, oh, 43 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:52,039 you know, it is an aspirational what jobs do you want? You know, 44 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,759 you might be like, oh, I just love horses, especially you 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,919 have that like budding veterinarian or horse trainer. They can take a quiz and 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,199 find out how they could work with horses in the future. So that's kind 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,879 of the idea behind it was, how do we have lots of fun, 48 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:13,000 lots of activities and do some experimental experiential learning while reading a fun book about 49 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,759 a subject they love. Oh my god, just just thumbing through this book. 50 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,560 I mean, it brings back so many memories of my childhood riding along 51 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,199 the Tongue River Reservoir in Wyoming and being out there with Tiny that was the 52 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,400 horse's name, and just being one with nature. That's what I love about 53 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:34,240 riding horses is that in reality, you're being carried through everything natural. Oh 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,960 it's so true. I actually had a horse named Blondie who was a Belgian 55 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:42,319 draft horse as a kid. And Blondie was so funny because she was raised 56 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:45,520 by people who spoke Germans and not English, so I had to learn some 57 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:53,120 Germans because she only spoke Germans. Would would you say that fools are just 58 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:57,840 as cute as a baby bunny and a kitten? Oh, my goodness, 59 00:03:57,919 --> 00:04:01,240 the cutest. The best story about us is that it's little legs are like 60 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:04,759 so long. They're already like we talked about, they're only already eighty to 61 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,159 ninety percent of their adult length. So they are just these gangly little legs. 62 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:14,080 They're just got the sweet little face and then they grow into something beautiful 63 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,920 and majestic later in life. So now one of the things that's pretty cool 64 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,560 about this and listeners need to understand this, This is a conversation starter book, 65 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:25,839 and one of the conversations that I brought up to not only adults but 66 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,839 children was the fact that horses don't have fur. They've got hair, and 67 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:35,279 you should see people's eyes go what I guess it is? Yeah, and 68 00:04:35,319 --> 00:04:39,680 it's even funny. We talk about the fact that like, it's not like 69 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,519 what you see with cats and dogs, it isn't definitely sometimes a little bit 70 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:46,639 coarser, and that even it's important when you have its mane, which is 71 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:51,480 they're basically like the hair on our heads, but on their heads, it's 72 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:56,040 important to actually braid it because it keeps the hair healthy and out of their 73 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,959 eyes and free from dirt. A little leary about how we braid our own 74 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,839 hair and put it in a pony really really, now, my wife brought 75 00:05:01,879 --> 00:05:05,639 up a very interesting question in the way of you know, because horsehair will 76 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,000 keep growing back, is it used in medicine as a way of creating wigs 77 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,079 for those that are going through cancer. You know, I'd have to look 78 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,639 into that, but that's a fascinating idea because, I mean, our hair 79 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:25,040 keeps growing back and we donate hair all the time. Yeah, I think 80 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:27,879 that's a great I mean she may be onto something, she may look into 81 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,279 that Arabian horses, My goodness, boy, you give us a list of 82 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:35,439 names of the greatest leaders of all time. What is it about the Arabian? 83 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:42,920 Oh, Arabians are just one of the most beautiful, stunning horses. 84 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,759 And you'll see you when you watch them do their pramping and walking about, 85 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,480 their tails are straight up in the air, and you wonder, what about 86 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,120 this horse makes them so cool? And actually the ability to do that, 87 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,240 that tail up is not actually normal in most horses. It's just the Arabian 88 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:04,680 and that's because they have too less vertebrae in their spines. But they can 89 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:12,319 lift their tails when they're excited. Now when we're horses domesticating. The reason 90 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:14,519 why I bring that up is because so many times, even when you look 91 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:17,160 in the Big Bible and things that it was always about the donkey that people 92 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:20,360 were riding. When was the horse really kind of you put into the human 93 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:27,319 life. Yeah, So we estimated that it's about six thousand years ago that 94 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:32,000 we began actually breeding horses for different tasks. And we see this happening all 95 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,360 around the world, and we have this amazing map that kind of points out 96 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,160 where some of the horses that you would see in areas like the Western US, 97 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,399 which would be the mustang. Or in Mongolia you have the really tough 98 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:47,680 horse named pronounce, which is the Volski. But you would have never thought 99 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:54,879 that the tight We we have some amazing ones and understand like why did we 100 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:59,920 start domesticating horses? And trust be told because with enough cars back back, 101 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:02,759 you needed some form of transportation. Yeah, and somebody had to work that 102 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,839 field as well. I mean, I mean my grandfather used the horses in 103 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Wyoming when when it came to making sure that the fields were plowed. Yeah, 104 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,759 and we still see people do that today because they just have this strength 105 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:24,319 and calmness to them that you couldn't do that with a tiger or you know, 106 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,319 you were talking about horses with with a kind of hard to pronounce names. 107 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,079 How about the American bash Kur? Did I say that right? And 108 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,439 with its curly hair? Oh? Yes, there are so many horses and 109 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,360 we natchio. Fortunately, we make sure to put those pronunciations in there so 110 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:44,319 that every kid knows exactly how to pronounce it. But yeah, we have 111 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:47,920 some curly haired horses. We have horses that hairspinch to rate up. We 112 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:53,879 even have horses that have record linked hair or like grows really really long and 113 00:07:53,959 --> 00:07:57,680 you can see that or which is so fun. Well, yeah, because 114 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,079 I mean a Shetland pony. Come on, I mean, that's what it 115 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,480 is. That's a walking, movable, stuffed animal that you can call your 116 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,279 best friend. Oh, it's so true, And honestly, I didn't know 117 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,600 this before I came to this book. Did you know that horses and ponies 118 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,959 or miniature horses too, they're all the same species. It's just how tall 119 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,439 they are that differentiates their names. So you're over fifty eight inches, you're 120 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,600 a horse. If you're at or under fifty eight, you're a pony. 121 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:28,240 And if you're a mini he who only reads up to baby thirty eight and 122 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:31,200 oh my god, with with with the web and all that kind of stuff. 123 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,799 That's the first time I've ever heard that. That's interesting. I know 124 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,559 the conversation. The conversation starter is this book. Well, and this book 125 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:45,279 is definitely one of those that empowers kids when kids don't like the kids love 126 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,720 more than anything to come up to a pair and be like, I know 127 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,279 something you don't know. One of the things that I've I've lived with throughout 128 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,120 my life are the wild horses because in Montana they are out there at the 129 00:08:56,159 --> 00:09:01,600 Prior mountains, the mustangs are wild. And then even here in the Carolinas 130 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,960 we've got wild horses. Were they naturally wild or did they break free from 131 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,399 farms? We actually talk about there is a variety. So some animals did 132 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,000 end up being domestic. So they all originally weren't wild. Okay, some 133 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,879 were domesticated and then some actually returned to the wild and same wild. And 134 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:24,120 depending on where you're from around the world or in the country, you see 135 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,840 differences and some of them can be domesticated again. But you're right, in 136 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:33,679 the western US we see about eighty six thousand muths thangs that live on public 137 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,960 land right now. Yeah, my father his job before I was born. 138 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,600 He was the guy that broke horses. And what that means is that so 139 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:43,840 that you could ride the horse and so, and they showed me how we 140 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:46,039 did that where nobody got injured and it was in water, and so I 141 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,679 was I've always been fascinated with horses, and that's why I love this book. 142 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,399 Oh I love that. Yes, Wow, you got to come back 143 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,000 to this show anytime in the future. The door is always going to be 144 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:01,600 open for you. Christina. Well, thank you so much, Arrow, 145 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,360 and I love your enthusiasm for our books. Kids are gonna we can't wait 146 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:09,440 to get this in the hands of kids. It's gonna appeal to any child. 147 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:13,039 Are they they're really into sports, We've got the ek line athletes, 148 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,080 or they love the fantasy and we have our mystical horses, whether they want 149 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,000 to be a veterinarian or they just want to make some treats and be a 150 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,519 baker and make some sense some horses. We have it all in this book. 151 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:26,399 I'm just jealous that kids get this book today because I just had the 152 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,120 regular National geographics when I was a kid. So I mean, I just 153 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:35,240 love the way that you were tapped into people. Oh, we're so glad 154 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:39,360 too, because there's nothing better than to make sure that kids feel like they 155 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,120 can understand the world around them. And also you only get into the subject 156 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,360 that they find fascinating and feel like they can learn more of and tell other 157 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:50,519 people about it too. Wow, will you be brilliant today? Okay, 158 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,919 Christina, thank you so much. Arrow. You have a fantastic day.