1 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:13,519 Good morning maya sphere, good morning mother, common sphere of the fountain, 2 00:00:14,439 --> 00:00:19,800 good morning more. Wait Welcome one more day to our podcast. You know 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:27,519 that in our program we bring you closer to topics and issues, because normally 4 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,079 within the area of motherhood, parenting, upbringing, books, projects, challenges, 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:40,039 people, always trying to learn, reflect, improve on this topic that 6 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,039 is the one that we are concerned with, that is also very broad and 7 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,799 that, because this way we have been years and we do not get bored. 8 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,759 We are not bored because we are also aware, also because we live 9 00:00:52,759 --> 00:00:55,640 in the world in which we live, of the things that are happening around 10 00:00:55,679 --> 00:01:00,479 us. And although it is not a direct issue with upbringing, motherhood, 11 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:04,560 parenthood or childhood itself, of course it affects, because, of course, 12 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,959 it affects at the end, because it affects us all we live in society. 13 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,040 The issue that is going to take us up today is an issue that 14 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:21,280 may not have touched you, you have not had that misfortune, you do 15 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,879 not know anyone that happens, but you have seen it in the media or 16 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,640 you have seen it, because on TV a. Best of all, not 17 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:30,879 to someone who happened to him, but suddenly, in these things that are 18 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:37,319 happening to someone you know. And, well, I think it' s 19 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:44,120 worth using all the platforms at our disposal and all the possible speakers to claim 20 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,920 something that might happen to you that you' re listening to us. Pass 21 00:01:48,959 --> 00:01:52,920 me or pass to the neighbor, to the neighbor the family of the guest 22 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:59,799 who comes here today, who I also know personally and that she wanted to 23 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:05,840 come here in other conditions, but now. Well, if you have to 24 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,080 come to talk about an important issue, then you' re coming. She 25 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:14,800 is Blanca Santa Maria, the well- known p in networks and who has 26 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,360 been my companion for why podcast, podcast, why podcast that now, because 27 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:27,439 she is a little on vacation. But, you never know, you never 28 00:02:27,479 --> 00:02:30,199 know we' ll come back. I think so. It' s good. 29 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Well, there it is. The door' s not locked. The 30 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:38,919 door' s not locked. One of the oldest podcasts that has been going 31 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,960 on for many years and with which I have had the luxury of participating for 32 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,560 a few years. It' s been several years. The final stage. 33 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:53,240 There we have been at the end of the year with Jorge Ov, with 34 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:58,719 Kik thirteen Bcs, with mament as well co Mami and avien p when he 35 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:05,639 wanted to accompany us, when I wanted according to the day. Welcome, 36 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:08,400 Mother Tera. There you go. Thank you so much, I' m 37 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:12,240 happy now, I can die now. It' s all over. Actually. 38 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,479 I want to go to the podcast. I want to go to the 39 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:23,639 podcast. Well, then, Blanca Santa Maria, it turns out that, 40 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:30,800 because of things in life, in the last weeks, in the last months, 41 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:36,120 you' ve become a vindication voice in the networks, as far as 42 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:38,439 you can, because something is happening to you, something is happening to your 43 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:45,719 parents that I think is worth knowing. No matter where you are, whether 44 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:50,800 you are from Madrid or not, because what we are going to tell today 45 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:55,879 can happen to you in any city, because it is a phenomenon that unfortunately 46 00:03:55,919 --> 00:04:00,080 is happening more and more. Tell us a little white, tell us what 47 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:05,280 you want, because you also come here as to tell what you mean, 48 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:11,199 without any filters. Don' t feel like it, well, a little 49 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:15,360 bit, a little bit, tell us a little bit, what' s 50 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,439 going on and why you' ve had to hit the table a little bit 51 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:26,839 and get to vindicate and fight to defend, because your parents right exactly to 52 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,600 housing, to housing, because it turns out that well, my parents live 53 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,639 in Lava Pies, which is a neighborhood that takes a while, which is 54 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:36,079 getting too fashionable. It' ll be like a dangerous neighborhood first. Now 55 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:41,800 it' s a cool neighborhood, as some real estate people call it, 56 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:45,800 and it turns out one day my mom was already like that. My parents 57 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,240 live on rent, they live in a rental building, and it turns out 58 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,079 that my mother has already been saying daughter this building will sell it. They 59 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,759 ' re gonna sell this. And now, Mom, how are they going 60 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,480 to sell it? If I' ve been good, my father' s 61 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:00,959 been living there for seventy years, how they' re going to sell the 62 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,639 building that' s a daughter, yes, I' ve seen people in 63 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,079 suits that this is really weird. I' m good. And this one 64 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,319 day he sends me news to my mother by Whatsapp in which he says that 65 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:15,120 he rents the housing, which is an investment fund that is linked to the 66 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,920 family of hope Aguirre is buying four buildings, three of them in Madrid and 67 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:26,079 one in Barcelona and in which he puts tribulete seven. Of course, when 68 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,040 I read the news, I started crying. I became Jorge, what is 69 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,279 wrong with you and gave him this I say that in the end, my 70 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,600 mother was right, that is that they are selling it and there we are, 71 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:38,279 then, in the fight to stop it. We' re not going 72 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:40,959 to stop it because if it' s not going to be Ellis, it 73 00:05:40,959 --> 00:05:44,480 ' s going to be another investment fund, because the landlords don' t 74 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,279 want to have the building, they want to sell it. They give them 75 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:47,399 a lot of money. I get it to see Mira, she gives him 76 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:51,040 a lot of money. And there we are, then, that they are 77 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:55,680 listening to us in the city hall, they are listening to us politicians, 78 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,759 on the district boards, on Twitter, by instagram, we are going through 79 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,240 all the media, in the press, in television, we are making noise, 80 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,040 especially where it leaves us. But what is involved will be those who 81 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:14,480 have no idea what it means to buy a property, an investment fund, 82 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:16,879 because they will say good, because from the right, that is, the 83 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:19,759 free market. You can buy and sell the landlord. You have every right 84 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:25,920 in the world to sell your property to anyone you want. What' s 85 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,600 the problem, if what happens with that, because the problem that these investment 86 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,759 funds or vulture funds, what they call them. What they do is they 87 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:40,160 buy the building, they throw out all the people and they do works or 88 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,959 they throw it or they remodel it to do in this case what they want 89 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,319 to do are luxury houses, because it is a neighborhood, which is a 90 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:51,959 building that is in the center, between the metro of lavapies and ambassadors, 91 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:57,560 it is very well located, it is central and it is a building that 92 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,720 is very large, because it is fifty- four houses. What is there, 93 00:06:59,959 --> 00:07:02,279 then what they do is that or you go for the good ones, 94 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:08,639 that is, they don' t renew the lease or as is the case 95 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,800 with the family, my family, and three more that are old income, 96 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:15,319 that are life contracts, that have no end, that make your life impossible 97 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,279 for you to leave or you go like empty in the building already they would 98 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:25,199 leave these four families they put you narco floors, they put you in occupation, 99 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:29,759 they make your life impossible, they try to steal you, they try 100 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:33,600 to try at home, they do works that last you three, four or 101 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,920 five years, works in which either you leave or you endure nine of the 102 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:44,680 morning, ten of the night noises. Then we' re there to see 103 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,079 what' s going to happen. In theory, the building is not yet 104 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:56,519 purchased. The 13th of February was held in ELIX to hold a meeting to 105 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,839 expand the capital. One hundred and fifty million euros were going to expand it 106 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,879 to buy these buildings already. It was Tribulet seven that is Boldian lavapies, 107 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,360 number five that is linear city Salvia, one that is Tetuán and one in 108 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,959 Barcelona. The one in Salvia already belongs to Eli Salvia is already purchased, 109 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:22,639 while the other buildings, not to this day, are still homeowners. And 110 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,519 what is being done, I mean, since you' ve come across that 111 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,600 news, what can you do, what are you starting to do? Well, 112 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,840 you don' t live there, you' re not even close to 113 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,399 that, that place, not that block, but that' s where you 114 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,080 ' re involved, of course with your parents. And what can be done 115 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,320 or what the neighbors are doing. The first thing we did was create a 116 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,200 group of Whatsapp and between my mother a neighbor and me every time we see 117 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,960 a neighbor, because I' m almost every day already there as a telework, 118 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,519 because I' m going to telework, because I talk to the neighbors, 119 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:03,360 we create a group of Whatsapp. And once we created a Whatsapp group. 120 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,600 We went to the Tenant Union to let us know what' s going 121 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:13,919 to happen, because in the union every Friday they hold an assembly in the 122 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:18,200 afternoon and go many buildings that are in have the same problem as us. 123 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:22,440 Then from ELIX people who bought them elis. There are several buildings, one 124 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,360 of them, which is that of Galileo twenty- two, which is in 125 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Chamberí, which is already there. There are four families left living there. 126 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:33,080 So we went to the union, we got together, they were talking to 127 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,440 the neighbors. Well, if you worry us, this isn' t overnight. 128 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:41,120 It may be years before you can be thrown out, but they can 129 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,759 make life impossible for you. They' re gonna try to eat your heads, 130 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,080 talk to you, try to convince you to leave. They' ll 131 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:50,120 give you money or they' ll give us money. And we' re 132 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:52,679 there with the union. Then, then, as soon as I found out, 133 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:56,799 I started writing to politicians by instagram, because on Twitter you have to 134 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,440 be verified to write to them, because by instagram it is I lived Alejandra 135 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,360 Jacinto, who was the one who stood in the elections of two thousand twenty 136 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,559 - three. We can in the Community of Madrid. She answered me, 137 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,879 and since she' s a lawyer, she' s the one taking the 138 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:13,840 case. She gave me an appointment, we met with her and she' 139 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:18,440 s the one who' s going to represent us legally or judicially. Then 140 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,840 I wrote to Lovato, who is the soe. He answered me, too. 141 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,000 I passed the contact of the one who carries the subject of housing in 142 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,200 Madrid and together is Pedro Barroso, Cristina González and Reyes Maroto came to the 143 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,600 building to see us and talk to us, and they are the ones who 144 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:37,759 are opening the doors for us to go to the Assembly of the Community of 145 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,039 Madrid, to the City Council. They always ask questions about us. So, 146 00:10:41,039 --> 00:10:45,720 when they talk about us, we go so that, at least Almeida 147 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:48,519 will make us face that they do not see that it is a building, 148 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,039 but that people live there and thanks to them, because they open doors to 149 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,320 places that we cannot go. We' ve gone to the district boards in 150 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,559 the downtown area and there' s the district board. Which tells us it 151 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,519 ' s not up to him, so we tell him whose competition it is. 152 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,919 I don' t know, but then behind your back I don' 153 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:15,240 t support you very much. I' m counting on you to count on 154 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,440 me for what you want In fact, she called attorney Alejandra. As far 155 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,440 as I can help you, but then in front of other politicians always votes 156 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:24,720 not that they will not apply the housing law in the Community of Madrid, 157 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,080 they will not apply the law And there they are. That' s what 158 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,639 it means, because there' s a law that protects this situation. Yeah, 159 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,039 there' s a housing law that' s launched by the government, 160 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:43,679 which does like stress areas, that is, if you strain the Lavapiés area, 161 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,000 for example, you can' t raise the rent more than three percent. 162 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:54,240 They' re areas that you can' t raise the rent as you 163 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,440 want, so they do what they do, they run it by the courts, 164 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,320 and they don' t apply it. The Community of Madrid has said 165 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,200 no, that they will not apply the law of good as long as they 166 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:05,480 can bring it to court, because against it can be extended better. And 167 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,639 then, calling the press, we' ve been in the newspaper, it 168 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,519 ' s in public, in the country, in the world, in Spanish, 169 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:16,120 in the jump. We' ve gone to all the media, we 170 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,080 ' ve gone out in the intermission. We did a musical action on February 171 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,200 3rd together with the Barrio theater that where Alberto San Juan Cristina Medina was Or 172 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:31,039 there were almost 1, 500 people on the street supporting us because we did 173 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:37,080 concerts. We' ve made quite a bit of media noise and before musical 174 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:43,200 action,Éix sent two representatives to the building to stop us from going out 175 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,600 in the media, because of course we were staining his image, because they 176 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,799 ' re the good ones, the landlords, our bad guys. For them 177 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:56,440 why, because the landlords sold us without warning us. And I told him 178 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,840 already. But the landlords don' t kick us out. I say it 179 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:01,120 ' s you who throw us out and they don' t. No. 180 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:03,200 No, it' s just that these aren' t your homes. And 181 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,440 I' ll see. I have a life contract and my father has been 182 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,919 living here for seventy years. You' re gonna tell my dad this isn 183 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,120 ' t his house. He has a valid contract, he' s in 184 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,000 full right. So a lot of people think that what we want good in 185 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,240 this case my parents is a free house and they don' t pay every 186 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,759 month, that is, all the neighbors that are there on day one pay 187 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:28,679 so that they don' t then throw anything into our face. That many 188 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,720 say is not that you do not want, you want free house, you 189 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:35,440 do not want to pay No. No, no, no, it' 190 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,879 s that this, if we' re evicted, is an eviction paying, 191 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:43,080 that' s the strongest, but you keep paying. I mean, your 192 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,559 parents own it. They' re still paying their landlords. That is to 193 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:50,440 say, no such sale has been made. I mean, he' s 194 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:56,720 a very specialist, this day- to- day thing that happened to him 195 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,919 yesterday because my dad gets sent for whatsa and makes a transfer. Yesterday, 196 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:03,120 still the landlords remain the same owners and the relationship with the landlords at nothing 197 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:09,759 for the landlords. For example, you, when you' re on rent, 198 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:13,840 if something goes wrong, call the landlord and the landlord will fix it 199 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:18,360 for you here from the day you come in, they tell you the arrangements, 200 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,000 you manage. You, I mean, it' s your house to 201 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,720 fix, but it' s not your house to have your right to stay. 202 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,799 And with the landlords nothing. As soon as I heard the news, 203 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,360 I told my mother, Mom, give me the landlady' s phone I 204 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:33,480 ' m going to call her. I called her and said look I' 205 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,240 m a tenant of Tribulete I' m not going to give you my name, 206 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,960 but I' ve heard this news about what' s going to happen 207 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,159 to the tenants. And he told me but how did you find out? 208 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:48,240 And I say because in the newspaper dot it' s already published and hung 209 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,000 up. My mother insisted in the afternoon, because my mother knows her, 210 00:14:50,159 --> 00:14:54,519 even if she is forty years old that my mother has been living there, 211 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:56,559 so to see her and that and she doesn' t pick up the phone. 212 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,000 They just give us what we have to pay a month for Whatsapp and 213 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,200 they don' t tell us anything, in fact they have ever gone to 214 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,960 the building, or Santin look us in the face and see that we could 215 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:13,240 know it messy because there are four brothers. One of the landlords is a 216 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,039 neighbor. Well, he was a neighbor, he' s already gone and 217 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,879 we could have made his life impossible and it' s just that we haven 218 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:20,080 ' t done anything. Contract, of course, that eventually turns against you. 219 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:30,240 Also, yes, I understand perfectly what is happening now, what situation 220 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:37,720 there is, what organization right now, because since we are organized with the 221 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,799 union, we usually meet every two weeks, for to see our faces, 222 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:45,080 but the neighbors to see how they are, how they feel. For Whatsapp 223 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,960 we always want some weird move. We are hearing that there are new people 224 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:52,200 coming up and it is not that my cousin who comes to turn the house, 225 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,159 because maybe after fifty- four houses there are four that are empty. 226 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:00,399 And those four have already changed the locks, the mons set alarms so that 227 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,279 we don' t try to get in, because then those empty houses, 228 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:10,759 what they' re going to do is put in the occupied ones to start, 229 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,720 to drinks or spies, to see what we' re doing, how 230 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,240 we' re organizing and to stand up a little bit and get scared. 231 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Is that what you do in other communities? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? 232 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:22,000 Yeah? Yeah? That' s what they' ve done in other communities. 233 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,279 Like we' re all in the union. We have a group in 234 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:30,360 which we are, for example, Galileo, twenty- two who have already 235 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,960 been with Ellis for a year, those of salt already Boldano and whenever something 236 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,799 happens, we talk to each other. Listen, the mediators are here today 237 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:38,960 in our building. Listen, we' ve got new people in our building 238 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,159 today. We' re there, hear we need help, we' re 239 00:16:44,279 --> 00:16:49,120 moving each other. There are some cases in which this sale has been brought 240 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:55,039 to a standstill in this process. Yeah, with Black Store, which is 241 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:00,240 an American vulture fund, it got at least old- income people stopped by 242 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:04,000 law because, as you have to go to trials and are very long trials 243 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:08,119 and justice now very slow. They have managed that, at least the old 244 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,480 rents have stayed in the building, that the people maybe, I am funny, 245 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:15,519 because it seems that they can think good that that, that is, 246 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,720 that the landlords have all the right of the world to do what they want 247 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,480 with their homes, that is an argument that is always used and not to 248 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:27,160 see, because it passes from one hand to another. But it' s 249 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:32,079 not as simple as that. It is not that it passes from individual hands 250 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,039 to others, that well, it is lawful. Then, what this implies 251 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:45,160 is that the neighborhoods are changing their lives the neighbors, the way in which 252 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:48,400 that neighborhood is consolidating and becoming, because it is happening in many neighborhoods of 253 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Madrid or Barcelona, which is full of houses of apart hotels Or tourists are 254 00:17:53,759 --> 00:18:00,000 expelled, the neighbors and people who have been living there all their life, 255 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:06,240 life and break, because the roots of the people who live in that neighborhood 256 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:12,960 are expelled. He' s getting expelled. People have to go outside, 257 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,839 the price goes up a lot of those houses, and those places are revalued 258 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:27,920 and people are prevented from living there again. That' s me to see 259 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,480 that the landlords that I sell to me offer me 20 million and I tell 260 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,480 you look I sell are in their right. They can sell, but they 261 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:40,000 can also do things in another way to give the face of hearing look we 262 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:44,720 will sell you we give laziness of the recanting tanteor of hearing. First sell 263 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:48,279 it to you if you want and then we see what can be done. 264 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,920 But they didn' t face it. It is that if we have found 265 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:55,599 out and we thank you that we have found out two months before the purchase 266 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:03,240 was made by the media, because no one has told us anything, because 267 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:06,160 it is that on top of that when we found out that this was the 268 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,119 16th of January. On Ellis' s website you would go through the board, 269 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,559 one of the PDFs that go up with the boards and you would see 270 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:15,519 there the directions of the streets that they were going to buy. As soon 271 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,839 as the news came out, the union was behind and we, calling the 272 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:25,680 landlady, removed the addresses from SPDF and directly put Barrio Lavapies, Barrio Tetua, 273 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:33,359 bar Barrio Ciudad Lineal and Barcelona erased as the trail of the streets. 274 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:40,680 It' s just that this given to pots hears, because you have the 275 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,960 means and the resources to do it. Uh, yeah, I' m 276 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:51,000 not saying anything. Listen to the figure of the mediators tell us a little 277 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,240 bit about what it consists of, because that, then, the truth is 278 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:57,480 that we don' t have much idea that you can serve, which is 279 00:19:57,519 --> 00:20:03,160 that it implies that they want you to first shut up or go straight away. 280 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,039 When we spoke to the union, they told us that that had never 281 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,000 happened, that the mediators had never gone before to talk to the neighbors before 282 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,400 a purchase. Then they tipped off the doorman. But since there is no 283 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,240 phone and or in the building we have physical doorman and told the doorman hears 284 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,720 tomorrow tell the neighbors that tomorrow we want to go talk to them. So 285 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:26,680 what we did, me as the building representative and another neighbor as the union 286 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,599 representative. We were at the portal waiting for them to arrive at nine o 287 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:33,200 ' clock and they came at ten thirty in the morning. So, well, 288 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,960 we were out there throwing out the morning and this thing we' re 289 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,799 waiting for and we' re being looked at by a guy and a girl 290 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:42,400 tells me my white neighbor and I think that' s it. I mean, 291 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,640 I don' t think so, man, I stand up to two 292 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,119 people in suits, two little dicks. Such and when we see them he 293 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,400 hears that we are from Ellis and he came to a young boy, a 294 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,240 newly qualified man who would be twenty- two, twenty- three years old 295 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:02,640 who would give him look go there, if you get you, you bring 296 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:10,000 a percentage and then a girl came as a social worker, who is well 297 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,920 known in the field of evictions, because she is the head of feminist gypsies, 298 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,119 because of the diversity that they call her guru. She is María José 299 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:19,920 Cortiñas, it seems to me that she is called and she has been working 300 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:26,240 while she was in the candidacy Carmena as social worker of the Community of Madrid, 301 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,960 and she came to sell us the bike that came from many evictions, 302 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,720 that was having a very bad time, that as a child. She was 303 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:36,720 evicted three times because she lives in a caravan because she doesn' t want 304 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:40,200 to have a mortgage, she doesn' t want to have a landlord, 305 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:42,240 because the landlords are the worst, and she lives a motorhome. Then she 306 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:45,640 was telling us that she was going to help us, that she was going 307 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,519 to look for us, that she was going to try to get all she 308 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,440 could to Ellis so she would give us a lot of money, that she 309 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,400 wanted to go into the building and talk to each family to see the situation 310 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,319 of each family. They also wanted to go into the houses, because the 311 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,279 houses have not seen them inside. They' ve only seen what the building 312 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:07,279 is. So if you see how the houses are, you can get an 313 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,000 idea of how much they can offer you money and getting into the houses and 314 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,519 talking to each neighbor apart, what they do is separate us. I mean, 315 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,640 look, I' m going to offer you two zero euros. Come, 316 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,440 for I offer you five zero Come, for to you I offer such 317 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:25,200 and do not let them pass. We stayed at the door and said look 318 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:29,960 here do not pass, because we do not know who you are if men, 319 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,680 yes, if we are your future owners. I mean, I don 320 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,200 ' t care. I mean, you have some paper that says the building 321 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,759 is yours and says no, but I have an e- mail from the 322 00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:41,000 landlords that I can pass. I mean, it' s not worth my 323 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,720 email. I mean, I don' t like it and they just started 324 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:49,079 coming down neighbors because she started saying but you' re how. I know 325 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,519 that you neighbors trust you and as soon as you start taking a leave of 326 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:55,680 absence. Some neighbor asked him. Hey, you want to talk to them? 327 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:56,880 No, hey, you want to talk to them. I' m 328 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,880 not saying look, there' s already six neighbors who said no and left. 329 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,640 They' re gone well, no forgiveness. We got hit. The 330 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:10,720 Chico gave us his phone and Guru gave us a fake phone because we tried 331 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:15,519 to call her to make a joint meeting with all the neighbors with her and 332 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:19,480 gave us a fake phone. This was a Friday to the next Tuesday. 333 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:25,759 I was on my way from the lawyer to bring her papers and in the 334 00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:27,559 group of whatsapstart to write. We just saw Guro at the shoe store because 335 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:33,240 the building has two stores downstairs, a comic book store that has been in 336 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:37,599 its 30s and the shoe store has been in its 60s. There and she 337 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:41,920 began to say that woman who was not already working at the time, who 338 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,640 came to talk to Mary Jesus, to shoe her, because she had called 339 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,839 her Mary Jesus and we told her, but how are we going to call 340 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,000 you if we don' t have your phone, if we skip a fake 341 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,079 phone. And at that moment, just as there was, a journalist from 342 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:00,559 the world started recording it, which was the news that came out in the 343 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,359 world and she says that she doesn' t work for you, that she 344 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:07,839 ' s already there because she wants to do a social good, because in 345 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,039 this neighborhood, in Lavapiés, she had many associations in which no one knows 346 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:15,279 her. And she started telling us again a troll and I, at that 347 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:22,839 moment what I did was to call c a gypsy secretary that I have the 348 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,359 president' s phone and told me that they knew Gorod but that they had 349 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,759 lost her track a long time ago and that it seemed very strange that she 350 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,519 will work for a vulture fund to drive people out of their homes, because 351 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,799 that woman has been in Malaga two weeks ago at a meeting that was from 352 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,559 right to the roof and then in Madrid you are driving people out of their 353 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,519 homes. It' s a bit. It' s all very weird. 354 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,880 It' s so weird. And we' ve only been with this for 355 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,319 a month and a half. Oh, my God, that' s tremendous, 356 00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:00,640 but of course, no one can imagine. You' re on alert 357 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,279 all the time to what can happen to the minimum. We' re hearing 358 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,799 today, for example, there' s mother- daughter people coming up very 359 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:14,160 household appliances to a house. No one knows anything if it' s like 360 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:18,640 being on alert all day because you don' t know what' s going 361 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,039 to happen to you as the doorman, for example, of the estate. 362 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,880 He knew everything from the beginning. He' s never told us anything. 363 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:29,200 Then he comes to sell us that he is not the enemy, because he 364 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,160 will be left homeless, without a job, but that as the landlords are 365 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,240 the ones who pay him, he has to owe the landlords. And one 366 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:37,839 day I spoke to him and I said wrong Luis, but tomorrow you are 367 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,839 thrown into the street, do not come to cry to the neighbors, because 368 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:45,599 none of us are going to help you, try to help us from the 369 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,240 beginning, or tell us or tell us hear, so look, are they 370 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,640 going to do this? They' re going to do the other thing, 371 00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:56,400 because the moment something happens in the building it goes directly, leaves and leaves 372 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:03,240 us there sold. No one knows anything about it and your family, how 373 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:07,279 your parents, how they' re living it, how they' re assimilated, 374 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,119 what they' re doing. The truth is that quite badly and as 375 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,960 they swallow everything the moment a journalist comes or someone comes to ask them four 376 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:21,960 questions, they explode and start crying. They recently came out in lasers just 377 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:26,519 like that crying because mostly because they don' t know where they' re 378 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,920 going, because my mother is sixty- five already, my father seventy- 379 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,359 one, my daughter, where we' re going with our ages. He 380 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,440 says that what we would have to do is parents, children go to their 381 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,839 parents' house, and not parents go to their children' s house, 382 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,680 because now, right now, a rent, even if it is here in 383 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,880 mustols, is eight hundred nine hundred euros. My father is retired and with 384 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,200 the pension he doesn' t even come for a rent. Then we are 385 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,400 seeing to see what we are going to do, to see what ellis offers 386 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,799 us or what he does not offer us, and to see a little for 387 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,720 what I can help them, but for here we all find love and companionship. 388 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,200 But I do have the truth that they' re having a hard time. 389 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,519 That' s why my father is that he was born in the building 390 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,759 and he doesn' t see himself outside of the dishwasher, because there they 391 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:15,319 have their family, they have their friends, they have everything that it' 392 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,720 s not the same to start a life with thirty years of age than seventy. 393 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:19,640 If they say what they say, daughter, we, if we were 394 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,960 going to leave here was once dead. That' s what I did, 395 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,119 Mother, with my feet ahead, I' m out of here, so, 396 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,880 there, there I am. What I' m trying to do is 397 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,599 about three or four days a week and with them, at least, to 398 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:42,279 distract my mother at best. Someone sounds like it because it' s very 399 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:48,119 well known that yesterday you and I were talking about Greve, which I' 400 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,599 m sure I don' t know if we have such a young audience, 401 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,119 sorry to our two, but it' s true not yet. The audience 402 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,200 of younger streamers may not have arrived. They' re not parents yet, 403 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,119 maybe, some of them, but good. With street to de gret surely 404 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,160 you know it and the news that has also jumped to the media of the 405 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:17,240 case, because more or not I know if exactly the same, because I 406 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,839 do not know exactly. I know that your company did, that you bought 407 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,680 a building and that you wanted to kick out a lady who also had an 408 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,359 old rent. If I' m not mistaken that' s yes, then 409 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,480 of course. The old income, for example, is that, as the 410 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,440 law has changed so much right now, contracts. If you' re a 411 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,960 small fork, don' t have a little train orchard which is that you 412 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:45,279 have less than nine buildings or nine dwellings. You' re a little teno, 413 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:48,039 so the contracts you make are five years old. If you are a 414 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:53,799 great holder, the contracts you have are seven years, then of course once 415 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,920 the contracts are finished. If you can get kicked out with a four- 416 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,759 month notice through a pure phase, a letter and so on. This woman, 417 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:04,680 for like my parents, as they are old rents, which are contracts, 418 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,079 they have no end for what they have done to her in life impossible. 419 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:12,160 They' ve done construction in the building, removed windows, and frozen 420 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,119 his pipes. I didn' t have any water. And that' s 421 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,559 what man said, is that this woman has a lot of money to her 422 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:18,680 family. I don' t care if you have a contract with that woman. 423 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,519 This is like a job. You have an indefinite contract. If they 424 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,720 kick you out, they have to give you a finiquito, they have to 425 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,880 give you something that it' s not so easy to finish that kind of 426 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160 contract and he' s now what he was for giving up on the Internet. 427 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,319 Not that she' s an old woman, but she' s got 428 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:37,359 a lot of money. He only pays four hundred euros, well, but 429 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,920 he' s paying you and then the degred company didn' t want to 430 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,359 take the receipts and started saying that that woman didn' t pay but she 431 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:47,440 already had it and I got it from no no. I paid you every 432 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:55,039 month. I have paid you clearly and that many people, because that which 433 00:29:55,559 --> 00:30:03,079 defends those kinds of movements, since that from the free market, has all 434 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,000 the right of the world to own their property and can talk, is living 435 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,119 in their home. But before that there are a number of agreements and contracts 436 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:18,720 that must be respected. And then what we talked about as neighborhoods and as 437 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:26,279 a society, we' re allowing this kind of behavior. But not just 438 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:30,039 as individuals anymore, that is, we, because in the end you say 439 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:34,160 what we can do. But you are knocking on the doors of the institutions, 440 00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:38,440 of the government, of people who can, of institutions who could do 441 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:45,000 something and should do something that in the end I would not have to be 442 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:52,559 the neighbors who are raising their voices, but the authorities forbid it. Yeah, 443 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,720 it' s a regular game. In fact, in a way that 444 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:03,680 such operations cannot be carried out. In fact, when we were in the 445 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,079 City Hall Assembly the other day, kings Maroto, asked him the question that 446 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,400 they would have to apply the housing law in Madrid, because Madrid, the 447 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,599 center of Madrid, now a commercial center for tourists, for it is that 448 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880 you do go through the neighborhood. I don' t even know half the 449 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,000 people anymore. You used to say hello to everyone local business, now you 450 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:27,640 have to follow the cafeteria to the boom, coffee that sells you toast with 451 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,079 avocado and coffee for fifteen euros has queues whenever it flips and that' s 452 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,000 what everyone says as soon as they put you a cafeteria to serve you avocado. 453 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,200 He' s already lost. The neighborhood is lost. And well, 454 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:48,000 what I was going to when we were in the Assembly, maruto kings told 455 00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:51,079 me, tells me white, how strange it is that to measure has greeted 456 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,640 us, because when it usually goes neighbors, it usually looks at us we 457 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,039 were to the third floor. They are downstairs, they tend to look, 458 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,440 greet and say, but when you are mentioned, you have not been able 459 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,000 to look at them. That' s why I yelled and that' s 460 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,880 when he looked at us and I pulled out the posters like we' re 461 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920 not here at least tell me to the face and the only thing he said 462 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,359 I' m not going to apply the law of living in the Community of 463 00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,279 Madrid and shut the microphone. She started talking about whether Abalos and the Cordo 464 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:21,880 case had already diverted the issue. Then last Thursday we were in the central 465 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,759 district of the Board of Directors and Carlos Segura, who is the one who 466 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,359 runs the center district of the PEPE in Madrid, approached my mother and said 467 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,079 ay white, I feel like meeting your daughter, because I have not seen 468 00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:36,160 her and I would like to talk to her. And I told my mother 469 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,319 mom, because if she saw me at the Assembly in Madrid, that she 470 00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:43,359 greeted me and everything and now it comes to you with this is that it 471 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,440 is all very much that they pass the ball to each other and we are 472 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:53,279 there in the middle that they could do many things, yes, but they 473 00:32:53,279 --> 00:33:00,799 do not care. And that should draw our attention. Not that those debates 474 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,599 that eventually come out in the media, because that' s because of the 475 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,519 issue of haba, that I don' t take away gravity or importance, 476 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:15,720 but that there are a lot of issues that the authorities, because they' 477 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:21,359 re doing nothing about and they affect and impact everyone' s life, because 478 00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:23,920 this is happening to your family and the neighbors of that building, but it 479 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:30,680 ' s happening in many other buildings, in many other cities. Yeah, 480 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,240 and in fact it' s just that until it happens to you, it 481 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,599 ' s either you can' t imagine it myself, when I talk to 482 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:43,400 the union, I tell you, I admire what you do, because it 483 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,039 ' s because until it doesn' t happen to you, you don' 484 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,240 t realize the other day on the foot is the same and they' re 485 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:59,599 going to evict a ninety- two- year- old in a wheelchair because 486 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,359 he owed fifty euros and we stopped because now we all talked through the chat 487 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,920 we have to go to Dr Furket, who was next door we were several 488 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,000 of a building. It was some press and we tried to stop it. 489 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,920 But I was ninety- two, they were wheelchairs. But where' s 490 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,519 that woman going? The case in Barcelona, which is also called white, 491 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:19,159 a lady with eighty- six years of age who owed 80 euros for eighty 492 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:28,559 euros. It' s just that that shouldn' t be allowed. I 493 00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:34,360 mean just or if you allow it, I don' t know how to 494 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,280 try good social housing. They can do a lot of things, but they 495 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,199 don' t care. The other day, rista Maestro Igual came out in 496 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,079 press saying that the City of Madrid buy the building Tribulete seven, as Carmena 497 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:52,400 did in his legislature years ago that he bought buildings, we do not want 498 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,800 to go we can already say that they have not heard, because we have 499 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,199 been everywhere. I have sent certified letters to the MAID, to the Councillor 500 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,199 of Housing of Centro, to the Councillor of Housing of the Community of Madrid 501 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,599 and they do not answer. I say no more. I cannot ask, 502 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:14,519 my mother, for yes, because the next question was what we could do. 503 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,519 But this thing is hard. We' ve already been everywhere and many 504 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:23,559 times we seem to be tired, but there we go and pumba and pumba 505 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:30,280 and pumba and pumba and pica pala, but no. And besides, the 506 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,360 truth is that all cansinism is little, because it' s really that all 507 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,519 these people, I mean, I insist that this building is happening to them, 508 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,639 but it can happen to you. It' s something that can happen 509 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,599 to us all, to anyone as much as you' re listening to me 510 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:51,800 already, no, no, no, that my house is mine, it 511 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:59,039 ' s not yours from Banco José Luis, Yes, in fact, but 512 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:02,400 many banks work with vulture funds. And make it clear is that and as 513 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,880 long as I won' t be the stain his image tries to shut us 514 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,840 up. We have been told that once it is done as a mediation with 515 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,840 this company, they will ask us for a low profile in plan, stop 516 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:17,880 coming out in the press, stop staining the name. If you want to 517 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,679 come up with a negotiation with us, you have to stop being a low 518 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,559 profile, because that' s what you' re clearly required to do, 519 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,440 of course, so I take advantage of it. Now, now I take 520 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:37,119 advantage I say good to me I haven' t been told anything then they 521 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,679 ' ll use watch all your media appearances. But in the end, you 522 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:49,280 have nothing left to say but to denounce it, and that we, the 523 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,800 media, are who we are, we have at our disposal, the networks 524 00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:00,519 we have, because we have nothing left but to share it and to disseminate 525 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:02,320 it to the extent that we can and that reaches those who have to reach 526 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,920 it. Because I insist that this is happening to specific people, determined, 527 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:14,440 with almost certain characteristics, with X contracts that are rental, but that if 528 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:20,519 that type of behavior is allowed and validated in that way, who tells you 529 00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:27,000 that tomorrow does not happen with other conditions, with other contracts, with other 530 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,639 situations and we will not have done anything. This is like when you look 531 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,440 the other way and it doesn' t affect you and it sees you and 532 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,800 it' s like I don' t care. It is not my problem, 533 00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,719 yes and against that, because we always have to fight and that affects 534 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,000 us, that we participate and that we share it, because in the end 535 00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:52,480 it influences us all and that the day when you want to go out to 536 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:52,000 Madrid, for example, and say ay no. But I like bars all 537 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,440 my life. It' s just that there' s no shoe stores for 538 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,679 a lifetime anymore. It' s not clear they' re being bitten. 539 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:07,119 There are no more traditional markets, because people are already, people are already 540 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,760 changing their routine, their way of life, because people are leaving outside who 541 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,320 can buy in the traditional market. I mean, yeah, yeah, and 542 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,599 all that' s got over there. That' s gentrification Yeah, yeah, 543 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,159 yeah, and it' s not just that you turn it into tourism 544 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,920 or downtown, that' s welcome, but of course, what that means 545 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,320 and what' s going on. Besides, it' s happening in cities 546 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,679 around the world that are already banning, because, for example, I boiled 547 00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:43,639 them in me, which is the x number of tourist homes, that is, 548 00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:50,199 this has to put a brake. Yes and not us in the Community 549 00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:54,639 of Madrid, today they say no, no, no. Those who see 550 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,119 no problem, no, that Madrid is very well and that nothing happens here. 551 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,800 You say it. Let' s see that yesterday came out yesterday or 552 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,400 before yesterday a news that in idealist there was a storage room of eight meters 553 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,280 square four hundred euros of rent and you see and you say, but let 554 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,400 ' s see who will live here and that that is not allowed, because 555 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,599 I think the minimum is about thirty, thirty and two meters square, what 556 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,840 you can enable to live, of course not. But if that is to 557 00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:29,199 say, we are not putting a stop to speculation, because in the end 558 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:35,679 this is speculation that is safe and hard, because then we will have what 559 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,400 we want and what we have earned then raise our voice. It' s 560 00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:42,280 not like you' re living, you' re paying, you want a 561 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,639 free house. No. Not my stop what says daughter, if I raise 562 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,280 the rent twenty, thirty percent and I can afford it, I pay it, 563 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,960 but what I won' t pay is one thousand five hundred euros for 564 00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:54,719 forty square meters, that' s what it goes. What they want to 565 00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:01,280 do is put up rents of 1, 200, 300 and it is or 566 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,880 is not viable for normal people, no no, and who will be able 567 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:16,239 to pay that is not, Blanca. Thank you so much for nothing to 568 00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:20,639 come and tell us. This is a shame that it has to be because 569 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,079 of this topic and not because of something I know because you wrote your book, 570 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,199 well or because it has another child. Don' t worry nine months 571 00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:30,360 we talked. It' s true you could have come to tell us. 572 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:40,320 Your birth during the pandemic also had its own, but good that it is 573 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:46,199 not where you can follow information on the subject where people can be informed for 574 00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:53,920 on Twitter we are like arroba tribulete seven and on Instagram we are like neighbors 575 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,079 tribuletes seven. Okay, well, if you don' t see her, 576 00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,840 I' ll retweet and put everything on Blanca and follow her on Twitter. 577 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,239 Normally I shared good things, a little random, but yes, a lot 578 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,360 of podcast stuff, at least I met her around, but then already now, 579 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:16,119 because she' s involved, unfortunately in this matter. But good is 580 00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:20,599 what there is, what has touched us and we support you in all that 581 00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:27,039 is possible. And nothing that I wish, I hope, I hope, 582 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:34,280 will separate and let the neighbors live in their homes and if you want to 583 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,039 go to officers who want to leave, that they leave, but I mean 584 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:42,920 that it is of God' s own free will, I am exactly when 585 00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,239 they want and in normal conditions, but that people have to be thrown out 586 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:51,599 in a bad way. And that' s forcing them to leave like that, 587 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:58,239 not to say having a hard time, because we' ve heard cases 588 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,440 and it' s terrible, terrible. I say what my parents say, 589 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,760 I say see I want you to endure as much as possible, but I 590 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,719 don' t want you to be living in shit with narco floors or with 591 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,679 a guy upstairs who' s making your life impossible for you to leave. 592 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,960 I don' t want to go that far either. But let' s 593 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:19,599 see, then nothing, we' ll be aware, we' ll keep 594 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,760 a close eye on what' s going on. There' s a lot 595 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,199 of luck and nothing. Thank you and cheers and congratulations for the fight, 596 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,559 for being there at the foot of the canyon and then looking whatever happens, 597 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,480 but you' ve been and you' re fighting there. And yes, 598 00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:37,679 and so, be it this building or another. It' s just that 599 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,599 people take note, especially that they' re close. It' s just 600 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,719 that if the neighbors are close, you' re more likely than when they 601 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,960 start to break up, because as soon as they stop there, you' 602 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,440 re on your own. And that seems silly, but there we have talked 603 00:42:53,480 --> 00:43:00,000 on many occasions about the importance of the community of neighbors to live in community, 604 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,079 that we are becoming more and more separated, that that ultimately interests them, 605 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,360 because if you have no relationship with your neighbors and do not speak, 606 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:15,639 you do not communicate, because it is the typical phrase that separates them and 607 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,840 the best way to overcome them is to separate them. And yes, yes, 608 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:24,000 yes, I divided to think that exactly there is that I am already 609 00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:38,679 imposed on all that in the art of war. Yes, the little one 610 00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:44,440 yes, my God, well, thank you, White and nothing. We 611 00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:49,000 want the accounts information so that you can follow it in the notes of the 612 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,920 program and what encouragement And many thanks to you who listen to us, because 613 00:43:55,039 --> 00:44:00,400 you have already seen what is small parentheses in the maternal paternal theme. But 614 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:05,440 in the end, we live in society and live in community and we want 615 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,239 our sons and daughters to live in a just world and that their neighborhoods, 616 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,199 because they are the best possible, their neighborhoods and ours, that we do 617 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,239 not raise alone, that we raise in community and in society and in tribe 618 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,760 and that we want a just society, and that implies the right to housing. 619 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,920 Look how well I' ve spun it all over you. Ahola, 620 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:30,639 very well and we will return in a new episode, whether a little more 621 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,159 traditional or not of you know here in good morning, Mother waits, friends, 622 00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:00,079 goodbye Chao n