All right, joining us now it's Tony Ardaban of wise Wolf Gold. And
of course you can also find wise Wolf if you go to David Knight Gold,
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him know that you came through us. But I want to get Tony on
today to talk about what is coming up. He's mentioned it in the past
several times. Next week we're gonna have the Big Bricks conference, and everybody's
talking about whether or not they're going to introduce some kind of a currency.
But either way, I think it's going to be very important. Isn't it
to me whether they do or not? Right, I do. I think
it's going to be an important milestone on the way to dedollarization. And I
sent you an article yesterday from Robert Kiyosaki talking about how they're gonna announce a
digital goldback currency. And there's some dispute here because you get spokes people from
the Bricks saying no, no, no, we just want to talk about
regional currencies and we want to get away from the dollar. That's obvious that's
their stated goal. But I don't know that there's going to be some earth
shattering announcement here, But I think the momentum is on the side of the
bricks. I mean, again, forty percent of the world's population just Brazil,
Russia, India, China, South Africa alone, and then they're adding
Saudi Arabia, which is huge. Mexico, Japan has is looking to join.
So these are again, these are just the things that are adding up
to a dethroned king dollar, and it's going to have massive implications on the
US economy. And of course one of the reasons that Robert Kiyosawa is saying
that and other people are saying that, was because Russian embassy said that,
so we're gonna have a gold back bricks currency. But then a few weeks
after that you had South Africa, which is the s and the bricks bricks
is was Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. So the
South African government spokesperson said, no, it's not going to be a gold
back currency. We're not going to do a bricks currency. But this is
a way for us to settle things on a local level. We just had
this last week, this happening yet again, an agreement between the UAE,
the United Arab Emirates and India so they could settle their petroleum transactions not using
the petro dollar, but using India's currency. And this is what's going to
really multiply with this man. And that's why, as you point out,
so many people are trying to join bricks. Now forty was at forty seventy.
I don't remember what the number was all these different countries applying to join
bricks. It used to be just five of them, and now they've got
you know, several dozen. Well, I mean you didn't hear them much
about bricks two three years ago. I mean it would show up. I
mean, if you're if you're a gold bug like me, you would see
it, but not in the mainstream. And now it's everywhere. You know.
You look at something Joe Biden did, David and uh, look at
the announcement he made to Saudi Arabius say we're going green and we're supposed to
be the petro dollar. Yea. Again, this is why you know,
what was it the liquid natural gas exchange that the China did on the Shanghai
Exchange, the first one to use that you want, this is about four
or five months ago. Again, the creating in dollars is slowing down.
And I'm not an economist. I'm not a scientist or anything, but I
know that there's something called money velocity. It's the amount of currency units in
circulation, you know, minus demand. And again the demand is shrinking,
and it's not shrinking catastrophically. Well. I mean, if you count,
you know, twenty twenty one, fifty six percent of all the world's financial
transactions went on in dollars. Twenty twenty two is forty six percent. It's
pretty bad. And I think it's it's shrinking still. So what we're looking
at, David, I think is a long road to d dollarization. It's
giving people I think there's a blessing here, giving people time to prepare.
But we're we're not going to remain the world's reserve currency for much longer.
And I sent you an article yesterday from Kitko and it's an interview with Annie
Schickman from Miles Franklin, and I think he thinks a lot like we do.
He's noted that there's an economic advisor. I think the chairman of the
Economic Advisory Board for Joe Biden has written op eds about why we should not
be the world's reserve currency. Why we should have the dollars should be dethroned
from king dollar. And again you wonder why would they do that, Well,
Andy points out, I think that's pretty apt. In what we've been
talking about from years now is they want to bring in the central bank digital
currency. It's easier to do if you've got an economic crisis. If you're
not having to facilitate those those dollar units and trade all around the world,
it makes it a lot easier for them to do so. Again, I
think the some of the elite are rooting for this, maybe some are,
Maybe there's different factions. I know that. You know, we've talked about
many times how the Federal Reserve has raised rates in spite of that hurting the
US economy, and I the only thing I could take away from that is
they wanted to remain wrong it. Sorry's purchasing power in the world, that's
what That's how you keep a strong dollars by raising interest rates. The headline
on Drudge today is like housing interest rates mortgage rates to eight percent. Yeah,
that's in direct correlation to what the Feds doing. So I think there's
there's multiple things going on here, but one thing's for certain, the dollars
not looking good long term. And of course you know they've already illustrated over
and over again how they are willing to destroy our lives in order to preserve
their power. That's what the Federal Reserve is going to do to preserve their
dollar as much as they can. That's why they're talking about eight percent interest
on home mortgage loans. The first home lown we had when we got we
got married in nineteen eighty, moved to Texas. Interest rates are sky high
there. They kept going up even after we got our interest rate, but
our first interest rate was thirteen percent fixed. That was disastrous. You know,
Well then, you know, do you moved to Well, my dad
was building houses back in nineteen eighty and I always hear the stories about how
hot it was, because that was the year that they still haven't broken the
record yet. They would just bite all the global warming and the global boiling
or whatever they have now going on. There was I talked when when I
was on with Guard about this. They had what was it, fifty two
days straight of one hundred plus temperatures in nineteen eighty, So that you're a
veteran of that Oh yeah, I know. That's why I don't believe this
stuff. People lying, And I've seen temperatures all over the place in the
last fifty sixty years, so yeah, it is. It's pretty crazy.
But yeah, the temperatures are high. So were the interest rates, right,
So you know, the temperatures didn't get any higher yet, but the
interest rates did go up higher. And then you had this massive crash in
Houston because at that point in time, the rest of the country was really
suffering economically because the massive inflation. But things were booming in Houston. You
know, your dad's they're building stuff because the oil industry and other things like
that. And then when the rest of the country started to recover, Houston
went into a big crash. You couldn't get rid of a house. You
were stuck with that stuff. And so it was a really horrible situation.
And they're willing to do that again to us in order to preserve their power.
You were talking about these economic advisors. You know, this is a
he's got a couple of economic advisors. You know, this kit Co article
talks about it. His op ed piece back in twenty fourteen, we need
to dethrone the king dollar and so they want to get rid of the dollar,
and then the other economic advisor wants to push in CBDC. And they
see that these are two of his key economic advisors. And it's interesting this
article doesn't even talk about the fact that that's when Biden put out his order
last March. He said, well, we got to redesign the financial systems
first thing, he said. Then we got to find out how we're going
to enforce it. Then we got to write the code. And then the
fourth thing is how we're going to sell to people and tell them it's to
protect the world from climate change. But they're looking at redesigning the entire financial
system. That was their number one objective and all of that. Yes,
And what's confusing about all of this to anybody who's studied history and looked at
geopolitics and foreign policy is that the current ruling regime is not making moves to
make the United States stronger, even if you're even if you're misguided on your
philosophies, they're not doing that. They're doing everything they can to, I
think, bring about some kind of controlled demolition. And if you're in the
know, you're going to profit. But it looks like all of this is
geared towards bringing us to the point where people accept a central bank digital currency.
They're not trying to really save the dollars. They're not. They're not
doing anything economically to profits back up. They're not bringing jobs back, they're
not stopping they're not. There's no inroads to peace in Ukraine or Taiwan or
anything. This would more tension and more economic disastrous news for the dollar.
That's right. And the guy who did this article, that's the way he
ends it. He says, does anybody want to give up their privacy?
Does anybody want to go into this control system of CBDC. Now you said
there's going to be some kind of event, as you point out some kind
of controlled demolition, you'll watch this stuff just go into freefall, just like
the inside Job of nine to eleven. And then they're going to have something
that they're going to offer you. Just as they started putting us into this
police state, the surveillance States, Homeland Security TSA stuff right after that was
already planned. And you know we've seen the second shoe of that to drop
with all this pandemic stuff. So they've got their plans that are there and
the good news is is that there's some things that we can do, even
on an individual level, to isolate ourselves somewhat from this. If we understand
that this is what's coming, and that's the gold and silver stuff, and
of course silver is looking. It's just amazing what the multiples are about.
That, isn't it. Well, you know, we just talked about nineteen
eighty. That's interesting because that's the highest silver's ever been. It went to
fifty dollars an ounce because of the Hunt Brothers. They drove the silver market
up. They tried to corner the silver market. I think that they were
somewhat taken out. I think that the powers that be saw what happened to
gold and silver during the seventies. And by the way, that's why your
mortgage rates were high when you bought your first home in nineteen eighty, because
the Paul Volker, who's the head of the Federal Reserve, had to raise
interest rates to the teams to quell inflate. We had to run away inflation
in the nineteen seventies. People didn't really know what was happening because we never
had that before. We always had a dollar as good as gold. I
mean, even even when you couldn't own gold, it was theoretically peg to
gold. You know, Franklin Roosevelt took your gold twenty dollar gold pieces,
which is basically announced of goal, gave you twenty dollars, and then raised
the price of gold of thirty five dollars an ounce. And that's where it
was from nineteen forty four at Bretton Woods until Nixon took us off the gold
standards. So there's been a correlation there between interest rates and inflation. And
at the same time, you had silver being riven up by the Hunt brothers
up until nineteen eighty fifty dollars an ounce in nineteen eighty, David, that's
like, I don't know. I mean, I'm just estimating two hundred dollars
in purchasing power today, maybe maybe more. But we have cheap silver.
The gold silver ratio is skewed. It's never it's like eighty three or eighty
four ounces of silver to make one ounce of gold. It's always been ten
to sixteen to twenty. It's never been like this, And I think this
is just part of the fake market that we have, you know, the
paper trading, the bullion houses, and I think the collusion between central banks
and those who hold the most silver, Like you look at JP Morgan.
They they're the largest, i think, private holder of silver in the world.
They have a vested interest in keeping silver low, do they not,
because they need to continue to acquire physical silver. Silver is used in it's
the most thermal conductive metal. It's used in solar, using an electric using
medicine. It's an industrial metal. And again, only twenty four percent of
the output for silver is from silver mines. The rest of it is just
accidents, like people are guarding people. It's entities finding silver and gold mines
or zinc mines or copper mines. So there's not enough supply to meet the
demand for silver. And that's why you hear things like it's going to take
a kilogram or more of silver for each electric car. I'm not a fan
of electric cars, but you have, you know, new government mandated electric
vehicle laws, and then you've got I just found out I bought the last
of the Dodge Challengers because they weren't gonna make it anymore. I mean,
it's such it's and it's such a sign of the times. You know,
it's like, oh, we're gonna make it electric. I'm like, oh,
so it's not gonna be good at all. It's just gonna be this
I'm driving a golf cart. I'm not really I'm not really into that.
So no, I think silver's got a huge upside. David, I sent
you that article yesterday, and we're not you know, we don't you know,
I don't give an investment advice and I don't even think of gold and
silver as investments. But I think their true value has not been It's really
it's really not showing right now. You've got gold dip below nineteen hundred,
and that's silly knowing where you know, I was hosting your show when it
broke. It's all time high. I'm breaking into the two thousand and sixty
range back in August or twenty twenty. How much damage has been done to
the dollars since then, I mean massive damage. So we know the purchasing
power of the dollar is waning, and gold and silver are They are a
function of housing, energy, and work. They're a representation of that the
dollar is not. Yeah, and just remember the rich rarely horde cash.
They almost never do. There's a reason for that. Yeah, Yeah,
you go back in nineteen eighty and you look at various benchmarks salaries in the
field where I worked, you know, they're like three and a half to
four times higher. Price of how is there about five times high? The
medium price of houses is about four or five times higher. So yeah,
it truly I think your figure of two hundred dollars silver is conservative, especially
considering the fact that we were not in the nineteen eighties looking at the big
industrial uses that you talked about with evs and other things like that. And
Kira sawas he's talking about it, he says, you know, gold and
silver, he's you know, doom and gloom. He thinks this is going
to really collapse. But he was especially talking about silver. And then of
course it's also a bitcoin. He's got big projections for what's going to happen
with a bitcoin. But he's not the only one. I saw this article
from this is from Seeking an Alpha one hundred dollars pronounces of silver as well
possible. And you know that would again if you go back and you look
at what silver was in the nineteen eighties, and there were other things that
were happening to distort stuff at that point in time. But yeah, that
is still pretty conservative based on historical prices, isn't it right? You've got
fifty dollars in nineteen eighty, then you had again, it reached nearly fifty
dollars in twenty and eleven, and then Ben Bernanki came out and said that
don't worry, we won't do tarp again. That was a mistake. We
won't bail out the too big to fail and too big to jail. We're
going to be very conservative. This isn't gonna happen. So people started selling
off their medals because people run to gold and silver in times of fear especially.
There was an article Simon Black of the Sovereign Man on zero hedge today.
It was like, I'm rooting for gold to zero, he said,
but that's not going to happen. And the reason he root for gold to
zero is because gold is where you go in times of uncertainty. So it'd
be okay with them if things were just great, but they're not going to
be you know, he's talking about it's not gonna it's not gonna be good
because you've got the rise of socialism, the rise of kinetic warfare, psychological
warfare, the rise of CBDC. You know, the totalitarian and push from
the from the top, and I think I'm with him. You know,
physical metals, and that's where I would go first. You know, Robert
Kiyosaki is somebody that I've listened to for many, many, many years.
I've learned a lot from him. He taught, he's been talking about bitcoin.
I mean I read about him talking about bitcoin in twenty fourteen. I
bought my first bitcoin ATM in twenty sixteen. I think bitcoin was like three
hundred and some dollars. I remember buying them to stock my ATMs. I
should have just bought bitcoin, but I happen to agree with him first on
the physical metal side. Never buy paper. You want it in your hand.
You want to be able to physically hold it because you don't want any
counterparty risk. And there's gonna be there's a huge disparity, ladies and gentlemen
between the paper price and the physical price. That's got I'm a dealer.
I deal in the real world. If you want announce is silver, I
have to source it up to find it, and there's a premium on that.
It's not because I made it, it's because that's what the that's the
economics of it. Same thing for cryptocurrency. People, you know, are
again they've been led to believe that the cryptocurrency is basically a central bank digital
currency. No, no, no, cryptocurrency is about you holding the keys.
It's about you having your own wallet, it's about you being able to
control that, not tied to an exchange. And the waters get pretty muddy
here. So I'm not advocating across the board crypto. I do think it's
an option. I do like bitcoin, and I'm pretty bullish on bitcoin.
I think that there's there's still a lot of room for adoption, and it's
one of them. You know, he talks about that article I sent you
that gold silver bitcoin in that order. I agree with that, and you
know, again, you don't have to hold bitcoin, but I think it's
something that is going to play a role here in the future. We're just
we're just getting warmed up. This is a this is going to be a
strange time when you see the loss of the dollars, the world's reserve currency.
David, Yeah, yeah, And what you were saying about paper gold
and paper silver, I experienced that when I had put my my ira in
that and I saw gold and silver going up and it was just going horizontal.
It's like, what's going on? Why aren't these things moving? And
I started looking at it. It's like, oh, okay, it's just
an ETF and they don't have to have anything there to back this up.
That's what it's doing, its own thing, and it's detached from the actual
spot prices of the physical metal. That was a real tell. So anyway,
I got out of that stuff, but it is kind of interesting.
There was also Tony an interview with a Congressional Budget Offices director on CNBC's squawk
Box, and the guy said to him said, well, why not use
the strength of the dollar. We know we can do as much as we
want. We're always going to be able to borrow, So let's just really
ramp it up. You know, canes in and let's just engender five percent
GDP growth from government spending. Damn the torpedoes will worry about it later.
People think you can do that. It's called MMT. So the Congressional Budget
Office director, who unfortunately doesn't set policy, but they kind of look at
what the Congress is doing. He says, yeah, I think we've seen
the downsides of that. Over the last few years. But that's really what
has been happening. And that's one of the reasons why we're going to feel
the shock of this move away from the dollar as reserve currency. And that
is going to happen even regardless of what happens is next week with bricks,
regardless of whether there is ever a bricks currency next week or after that,
everybody's moving away from it. And that's what we're going to feel in this
country. Is that kind of that loss of being able to detach ourselves from
physical reality. I think gravity is going to come back, come roaring back
on the US politicians in Washington, don't you think, Well, you talk
about psychedelics, so you'd have to have me on some strong psychedelics. I
don't know where these people went school, but they must have had a library
devorde of history. You don't have any fiat currency that's ever lasted through history,
not not one. You started with the Chinese, it went to the
Greeks and the Romans, and all throughout history. Whoever has adopted a fiat
paper currency, it goes to zero. I mean, the philosopher of Voltaire
said that about paper currency, it always returns to its natural state and value,
which is zero. That's where that's I don't know that we're headed to
zero, David, I've always said we're headed to digital. Uh, there's
there's too there's too much evidence to point to the fact that they're doing it
on purpose. I mean, you could see this coming a mile away,
you think so, I just I just want to caution everyone that you would
want to look out for what the the aftermath of of the dollar losing its
world's reserve currency status, and it's going to mean myer consequences for purchasing power,
the the the economics of the United States is going to be under pressure
for that, and so be prepared. We've set up David Night dot gold.
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get physical precious metals in your hand. It's a way to set up the
parallel economy and you'll be empowered by it. That's the key thing. We
know that SEBDC is coming, and we know that many of the downside risk
we don't know the financial risk and how they're going to play out with this
loss of the petro dollar. The loss of the dollar is a reserve.
But the key thing is, and you know we're talking about paper before.
One of the reasons that people will get into paper silver and paper goal is
because they can get into it in small amounts and do it incrementally and things
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there's really not any upside to the paper stuff that is really kind of divorced
from the reality of it, and it's something that you get to hold yourself.
That's the key thing. You know, it's real money, and it's
real money that you hold yourself, and that's that's the key thing. Thank
you so much for joining us, Tony, and it's always good to talk
to you. And it's always good for people to have something that they can
do to prepare and if you want to prepare for a financial unrest and risk,
and not just that, but also the surveillance and the control that they're
trying to prepare for us, the key thing to pay attention to is gold
and silver, and perhaps to a bitcoin as well. I'm just not comfortable
with that myself, but that's why I like the physical stuff. It's real
simple for somebody that is starting to get disaffected from technology, as I am
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